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“Transcarpathia is a bone in the throat of the Galichan neo-Nazis”

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“Transcarpathia is a bone in the throat of the Galichan neo-Nazis”

To date, the buildings of regional state administrations of all regions of Western Ukraine have been seized (except for the Volyn region, where the siege of the building continues). The only region in western Ukraine in which legitimate authority continues to operate, and the population has actively opposed the neo-Nazi revolution exported from the Galician regions - Transcarpathian region, historical Subcarpathian Russia. We asked to answer the questions about the situation in Transcarpathia and in Ukraine, as a whole, of the famous figure of the Rusynsky movement Pyotr Getsko. We make a reservation in advance that we can not agree with all the assessments and wishes expressed. However, we consider it appropriate to provide an information platform for a representative of a region with a strategic position.


Peter Ivanovich, I will begin the interview with you with the most burning topic. How does the Ruthenian movement of the region oppose illegal actions to seize power in Ukraine?

- For six years already, the Ruthenian movement has been actively working on the ideological confrontation between the neo-Nazi Galicia and Transcarpathia, which is oriented towards Russia. Rusyns have successfully mastered the network format. Practically at this level, we outright won against Bandera from Galicia. Hence the extremely negative attitude in Transcarpathia to any raids by Bandera. The trouble was that in Transcarpathia all this time, especially under President Yushchenko, they were under the tight protection of the police and the SBU. But if they are deprived of this support, the Galician question locally in Transcarpathia will be resolved in a short time.

Transcarpathia and the Rusyns are neighbors of Galicia, but they are a stronghold of pro-Russian forces and the integrity of Ukraine.

It historically happened. Of course, in Transcarpathia there is a certain negative attitude towards Russia. But it is so small that it can be neglected. That is, Russophobia is practically minimal. Many say that the difference in attitude towards Russia was predetermined by nature itself - the Carpathian mountain range. Hence, many mental factors: Russophile Rusyns and Russophobia of many of their neighbors behind the pass, that is, Galicians. Plus mutual exchange and mutual enrichment by the elites between Russia and Subcarpathian Rus. Galicia was not like that. Rusyns, of course, the mountain people. We are Orthodox, but we have a strong character. If the majority of the Galician Rusyns managed to be broken and turned into Ukrainians, then the Carpathian Rusyns carried their language and faith through the centuries.

As for the practical actions of literally the last days, I can say the following. In the capital of the region, Uzhgorod, attempts to seize the RSA building mainly by neo-Nazi forces from Galicia failed due to the reasons described above. On January 25, Transcarpathians sent groups of a total of 300 people to control the passes connecting the region with Halychyna in order to prevent the breakthrough of neo-Nazi convoys heading to seize power in the region. Earlier, the column of avtomaydan was thrown with rotten eggs in the Vinogradov district of the region. Transcarpathians are ready for other, much more extreme measures in respect of visiting “revolutionaries” Bandera. But it's better not to talk about it yet.

How do you and your countrymen see the further development of the situation in Kiev and in Ukraine, in general?

- All agreements between the President of Ukraine and representatives of the opposition are not something unshakable. This value is variable, it remains only to wait for when, or from what exactly everything will return to normal. Those. to the crisis, which is still there. In Kiev, the situation is very incomprehensible, but at the same time, if there is political will, it is solvable. Unfortunately, delaying its solution has already caused the problem to grow. But even now, this expansion of the crisis has not yet reached the point of no return. Again, we need political will, and, most importantly, the people will support the authorities and security forces in restoring order. Bardak all zadolbal already. The political will is needed, first of all, for Kiev with a hard sweep of Galician and progalytsky extremist elements, as well as for 3-4, and possibly 5 of Galician and Volyn regions, the introduction of rigid full-fledged borders.

In the meantime, real solutions to the crisis except self-extinction Maidan is not visible. V. Yanukovych most likely will not give a command to disperse the Maidan, and even more so the cleansing of Kiev. In this situation, the voltage will be intensified in Kiev, and the brunt will be transferred to the western regions. Where the new Bandera can do is in the three Galician regions, which, by the way, voted in the 17 March 1991 referendum against preserving the USSR. These are Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk and Ternopil regions. And the city of Kiev! Of course, they will try to seize, and perhaps even capture other regional administrations not only in Western Ukraine. It would be more logical to localize this process rigidly at the level of Kiev, and urgent measures to spread financial influence, that is, budgeting restrictions, would be urgently extended to the three Galician regions. In addition, it is hard to stop any attempts to capture buildings in any region except three Galician. This is both a vision and a wish. This is the first stage. In this case, the process will be localized. If you do not go this way, letting everything go by itself, carrying out only the passive protection of only the government quarter in Kiev, the situation will get out of control.

How do you see the situation in the regions of Ukraine (seizures or attempts to seize the regional administrations, first in Western and then Central and even Eastern Ukraine, the reaction in the regions of the South-East)?

- In the regions, if the central government in Kiev is paralyzed, it is difficult to predict the actions of extremists and the reaction of the security forces, who are ordered to just stand, without resorting to active measures. If this practice is continued further, then the strength is not enough. But in principle, the same can be said about Bandera from Galicia. It very soon turns out that they simply do not have the physical strength to support all this space, which they have seized in fear, and even more so, to turn into a legitimate power.

In any case, power is stronger, but subject to the political will of the country's leadership.

What are the positions of the Ruthenian movement in the opposition in the region?

- Rusyns are firmly on the side of the official authorities. Now it’s really clear who was the separatist in reality and who should have been tried. (Against the leaders of the Ruthenian movement during the presidency of V. Yushchenko, criminal cases were initiated on charges of separatism; in response, the Rusins ​​put forward the slogan: “We are not separatists! We are at home!” - E.P.). In addition, the Rusyns have reason to refer to the results of the 1991 referenda of the year. From 17 March 1991 of the year All-Union, in which the Rusins ​​voted for the preservation of the USSR, Transcarpathian Regional from 1 December 1991 of the year FOR "Special self-governing territory not included in any other administrative territorial entities". And the third referendum, FOR the independence of Ukraine. So, in the event of the elimination of legitimate authority, and, God forbid, the collapse of Ukraine, the third referendum is devalued, the first two remain. Transcarpathia will act according to those referendums. But, unequivocally, and categorically, the future of the region is not with Galicia, where today Bandera extremists dominate. This is excluded in any scenario.

In the case of separatism of Galicia or the victory of Ukrainian neo-Nazis in all or most of the territory of Ukraine, what steps do you plan to take?

- Actually, the situation is already close to this. The Rusins ​​had always resolved the issue by diplomatic means during the disintegration of the metropolises and under Austro-Hungary (Subcarpathian Russia was part of the Hungarian kingdom of the dual monarchy — EP), and in Czechoslovakia (Subcarpathian Russia was part of Czechoslovakia in the period between the two world wars - E. P.), and under the USSR, the territory of the Rusyns south of the Carpathians always received autonomy with the broadest rights ... Will it be possible to solve everything now at the diplomatic level? This, in the first place, will depend on the successor of the USSR, which, after its collapse, is Russia. In the event of an armed conflict, Hungary's intervention is possible, more precisely, inevitably (a well-structured Magyar minority makes up about 12 percent of the population of the Transcarpathian region, almost all Hungarians of the region have passports of the parent state - E.P.). In addition, there is a precedent for 1939 of the year when Bandera led by Avgustin Voloshin (the prime minister of the so-called Carpathian Ukraine, which existed for one day due to the Hungarian invasion and lack of support from the Ruthenian population - E.P.) and Hungary for one day (!) 15 of March 1939 of the year cleared the region from visiting Galician-Bandera. Unfortunately, there were no casualties among the Ruthenian population, that part of the youth who succumbed to Bandera propaganda. The repetition of the situation is quite possible now: Hungary (we recall, a member of NATO!) May send troops into Transcarpathia to protect the Magyars from the new occupation by new Bandera from Galicia. Considering that the Budapest-Moscow axis is now taking shape, the Bandera zaperalalnye have no chance in Transcarpathia. But if the Magyars of Transcarpathia rightly look in the direction of the parent state, then the Orthodox Rusyns expect to receive help from Russia and the Russian people. We have kept the common Russian name and faith, in the Ruthenian churches, services are held in Church Slavonic, and the Rusins ​​themselves are a very religious and God-fearing Orthodox people.

Developing your idea: what is the role of possible Russia in pacifying the Ukrainian crisis?

- Russia, in the event of complete paralysis of the authorities in Kiev and the threat of invasion of Bandera militants from the pass, could have implemented a peacekeeping operation, including before the start of the Olympics. The Rusyns have no intercession except Russia. The second block is associated with diplomatic influence: for example, at the upcoming Munich Security Conference, Russia can, and we believe, should state a clear position on supporting the Russian and Russian-speaking population of Ukraine and Transcarpathia. including from acts of genocide.

As I see it, these are two main directions. If Russia succeeded in settling the conflict in Syria, then Ukraine can also regulate it. Now Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin has such weight and prestige in the Slavic world and in the international arena as a whole, that he can afford the implementation of such diplomatic measures. Justice in this world, as the Syrian events have shown, lives in Russia alone.

Peter Ivanovich, thank you for your interview and wish you and the brotherly Ruthenian people of the world!
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  1. Const
    Const 1 February 2014 22: 43
    +8
    The territory of Galicia has changed owners since ancient times. The Poles did not count them as people, spread rot, raped, robbed, and as a result the king did not remain in the head of the population.
    But, for some reason, they are not at all sorry. Sami asked for it.
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    2. matross
      matross 2 February 2014 07: 00
      +49
      And for Transcarpathia it is worth intervening. So I understand that this is something like Transnistria in Moldova. Our people! Little is said about the Transcarpathia in the media, but it turns out they are not Westerners at all what
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 2 February 2014 09: 11
        +25
        Quote: matRoss
        Little is said about the Transcarpathia in the media
        Well ........... Well, if we talk about them, then it will be necessary to recognize their rights ....... and the "world community" cannot do it in any way. For the Rusyns are looking towards Russia. but in the light of the values ​​of the "civilized world" - this is not correct .............
        1. Genur
          Genur 2 February 2014 12: 50
          -2
          In Transcarpathia:
          National composition
          According to the 2001 census [7] [8] [9]:
          Ukrainians - 1 000 027 (79,9%)
          Hungarians - 151 516 (12,1%)
          Romanians - 32 152 (2,6%)
          Russians - 30 993 (2,5%)
          Gypsies - 14 004 (1,1%)
          Rusyns - 10 100 (0,8%)
          Slovaks - 5 (695%)
          Germans - 3 (582%)
          Belarusians - 1 (540%)
          Jews - 565 (0,05%)
          Poles - 518 (0,04%)
          Moldavians - 516 (0,04%)
          from http://topwar.ru/39179-zakarpate-kost-v-gorle-galichanskih-neonacistov.html
        2. Genur
          Genur 2 February 2014 13: 18
          -4
          National composition
          According to the 2001 census:
          Ukrainians - 1 000 027 (79,9%)
          Hungarians - 151 516 (12,1%)
          Romanians - 32 152 (2,6%)
          Russians - 30 993 (2,5%)
          Gypsies - 14 004 (1,1%)
          Rusyns - 10 100 (0,8%)
          Slovaks - 5 (695%)
          Germans - 3 (582%)
          Belarusians - 1 (540%)
          Jews - 565 (0,05%)
          Poles - 518 (0,04%)
          Moldavians - 516 (0,04%)
          1. Galan
            Galan 2 February 2014 14: 45
            +22
            Ukrainians - 1 000 027 (79,9%) where do these numbers come from? These are ethnic Rusyns. Do you really think that so much has come to Transcarpathia from Ukraine. It was just that Ukraine at that time represented Russia for Transcarpathians because both Russia and Ukraine were united. And such nationality was not recognized in the USSR. I myself had to write Ukrainian in the questionnaires. So this census is a lie used by Ukrainian nationalist politicians ONLY in their own interests. Otherwise, why are the results of referenda on preserving the USSR not used even without these 3 Galician regions that voted against?
            1. A. Yaga
              A. Yaga 2 February 2014 17: 36
              +5
              Quote: galan
              I myself had to write Ukrainian in profiles

              Ha! My husband is a native of the Dnipropetrovsk region - a Ukrainian. After the famine, the local population became Ukrainians, his mother told me, my mother-in-law. Until the 30s, they were sure that they were Russian - Little Russians. Likely for this the local internationalists staged a famine.
        3. Galan
          Galan 2 February 2014 14: 34
          +16
          Well, actually, for the "world community" there is the Versailles Peace Treaty of 1918, which recognizes the right of Subcarpathian Rus to create an independent state. Even a part of the gold reserve was allocated (in my opinion about 5 tons, it was in London) from the reserves of Austria-Hungary.
          I am Ruthenian and support such figures of the Ruthenian movement as Petro Getsko.
          1. 120352
            120352 2 February 2014 15: 04
            +6
            This treaty died before the Potsdam Conference. And Rusyns are our people! And they need help.
          2. Nikotin13
            Nikotin13 2 February 2014 15: 16
            +6
            this people is very respected!
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      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 2 February 2014 09: 41
        +14
        Quote: matRoss
        it turns out they are not zapadentsy

        In the First World War, the Austro-Hungarians assigned them to concentration camps, namely the civilian population - Rusyns. My grandfather took his first prisoner in that war without firing a shot, he raised his hands and said "I am a Rusyn". The Czechs and Croats surrendered more readily.
      3. Akim
        Akim 2 February 2014 10: 15
        +4
        Quote: matRoss
        Our people! Little is said about the Transcarpathia in the media, but it turns out they are not Westerners at all

        In the Transcarpathian region, many Magyars and Romanians live. There are problems there, except for Galicia. By the way, there are not many Rusyns there. There are three times as many Russians there.
        1. michajlo
          michajlo 2 February 2014 21: 16
          +8
          Akim UA Today, 10:15 ↑ New

          Quote: matRoss
          Our people! Little is said about the Transcarpathia in the media, but it turns out they are not Westerners at all

          In the Transcarpathian region, many Magyars and Romanians live. There are problems there, except for Galicia. By the way, there are not many Rusyns there. There are three times more Russians there.


          Hello Kim!
          You are wrong about Rusyns and Russians. My parents had Testimonies. about birth and certificates from the beginning. classes with the nationality "RUSIN" and after 1945 received COPIES Certificate of birth. with nat. UKRAINIAN.
          I according to my testimony. about the birth of a Ukrainian, although he was, I consider myself and everywhere I write in the profiles of my nat. as PODCARPATHIAN RUSIN, Ukrainian citizen (with a former Slovak residence permit).
          And those Rusyns who did not want to be called Ukrainians during 1945-1949 moved to Slovakia (then Czechoslovakia).
          In the past year I died in Povazhsk Bvstritsy, an old friend and fellow countryman Palo Tsygunka, whose father in 1948. was moved from the village of Sklenne / North-West of Subcarpathian Rus.

          And your photo about the name Beregova / "Beregsasz" is useless on this topic, since the Beregovsky district and Vinogradovsky are 85-95% Hungarians, and in my native Tyachiv district there are no RUMANIAN VILLAGES / 95% and the town of Solotvino Hungarians live 70-80%.

          In any case, the current Transcarpathia / Subcarpathian Rus is a non-standard part of Ukraine, and what fate awaits it is still unknown.
          But the hunger of Hungary in ALL Transcarpathia and not just 2 Hungarians inhabited areas, is OBVIOUS and very dangerous.
          Slovakia, despite the proximity of the Slovak and Transcarpathian Rusyns, is weak.

          Will the fate of Uzhgorod / Subcarpathia be interesting to Russia in Moscow itself, I really do not know?

          But the time is now troubled, in my opinion, this and the next 2-4 years will be decisive in the new history of Russia and Union-2.
      4. AVV
        AVV 2 February 2014 12: 32
        +5
        Quote: matRoss
        And for Transcarpathia it is worth intervening. So I understand that this is something like Transnistria in Moldova. Our people! Little is said about the Transcarpathia in the media, but it turns out they are not Westerners at all what

        The struggle is on all fronts, it is necessary to crush this Bendera m.raz !!!
    3. wow
      wow 2 February 2014 14: 46
      +1
      I agree with you, it’s not at all a pity !!! Dog - dog death!
    4. skullcap
      skullcap 2 February 2014 14: 50
      +2
      Quote: Const
      The territory of Galicia since the ancient times of the owners changed

      But initially this land was called Chervona Rus.
      All except the Rus (Rusyns, Russians) are newcomers. Including it is not known from which test tube the hatched Ukrainians.
      If the newcomers behave in a human way, then you need to live with them in the world. If they start to commit atrocities and lay claim to the primordially Russian land, as the Ukrainians now do, then they should be driven to their masters. All the necessary ways.
      Ukrainians - get out of the Russian land.
      1. terrible
        terrible 2 February 2014 20: 00
        +1
        they’ve gone out of the Russian land! Ukrainian = Pecheneg + Polovtsian + Pole + god knows who else. The endings of the last names are Polovtsian. The language is semi-Polish. You’ll read horseradish in Ukrainian. You can read calmly in Bulgarian and that.
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    6. 120352
      120352 2 February 2014 15: 01
      +6
      The story there was muddy and implicated in human commercialism. Just the Russian prince Dmitry Galitsky really really wanted to steer, to become king. The pope gladly accepted him in his arms for betraying the faith. He was Orthodox - he became a Catholic and, in addition, a king. Over time, the people became Catholicized and reborn, for which they now suffer: they do not like traitors. Even those for whom betrayal is committed.
  2. GorynychZmey78
    GorynychZmey78 2 February 2014 06: 59
    +20
    well done! I always believed that Uzhgorod will not succeed Natsyks! to preserve the Slavic culture faith of tradition in this aspen nursery of fascism is really worth a lot!
    I really hope that Russia will abandon them to their own devices!
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 February 2014 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: GorynychZmey78
      that Uzhgorod will not succeed Natsyks! keep Slavic culture faith tradition

      Also Transcarpathia 70 km from Uzhgorod
      1. 31231
        31231 2 February 2014 13: 40
        +5
        Akim, it seems to me the question is not in nationality, but in the education of youth and people. The population of Uzhgorod district is categorically against Bendery and Nazism, while in many central regions they are babysitting and liberalizing with it.
      2. GorynychZmey78
        GorynychZmey78 2 February 2014 17: 19
        +4
        Akim
        Also Transcarpathia 70 km from Uzhgorod

        Akim I know where Transcarpathia and Uzhgorod are located! hi
        truth has been there for a long time yet at the very end of the last century

        Akim
        that Uzhgorod will not succeed Natsyks! keep Slavic culture faith tradition


        and meant exactly what he said! I am aware that there are not so many Russian populations there (and everyone has their own problems), but the rest of the ethnos is also quite united and in the bulk of their friendship is attuned to Russia and really preserved the Slavic culture in many ways, which made it possible to repulse the Nazis in their nest ! Inadvertently, the whole region in 91 voted in favor of preserving the USSR even when all the regions nearby were categorically against it, which also says a lot! after all, even among Ukrainians in that region making up the backbone of an ethnos, there are obscene sane and sober people who do not live to see this three-headed Nazi-American hydra in power in Kiev and more so at home! it became possible only through Tama that they nevertheless did not come under the rule of Yushchenko of Bendera and Amer, which means preserving the culture and the original Slavic values ​​in this territory (I certainly can and will be mistaken a lot of water has flowed since I was in those parts) for example, I’ve been telling that Lutsk will also give support to the Natsyks noo ... and it’s difficult to judge from the side of course that the chas there is happening at the moment using only this article! let then those who live directly in Uzhgorod (if there are any) will write what and how is going on there at the moment
        1. michajlo
          michajlo 2 February 2014 21: 36
          +3
          [19:34:34] 05 XXXXXXX: it’s okay not to climb the Maidan pass the pass is not swept up in Uzhgorod -7 on the descent of Ukraine -30 in Kyiv -26
          Hello Dmitry!

          Here are the words of a friend from Uzhgorod since 19h.
          "Everything is fine in Uzhgorod, Maidan is / Kiev, in Uzhgorod it is warmer than in Kiev and in the east of Ukraine."

          For the "pass" itself, he did not write me anything. Probably does not know or the info about Veretsky Pass and Uzhotsky - is incorrect on the network ?!
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 2 February 2014 07: 01
    +10
    Russia, in the event of a complete paralysis of the authorities in Kiev and the threat of an invasion of Bandera militants from behind the pass, could implement a peacekeeping operation, including before the start of the Olympics.


    I think in the West they thought over this option too, I suppose as in 2008 — they will try not to make the same mistakes — therefore, our specialists must come up with an unexpected and non-standard answer to the democratizers.
  4. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 2 February 2014 07: 10
    +5
    from the Don.
    Wife from Transcarpathia. Yesterday I called up with my sister. Everyone is waiting for what will end in Kiev. On TV-active brainwashing! Some are underway, but mostly smart people!
  5. valokordin
    valokordin 2 February 2014 07: 43
    +6
    Urgently provide economic assistance to our Transcarpathian brothers in the form of a Euro loan and money, then it is necessary a little, much less than the ungrateful Abkhazians.
    1. Hitrovan07
      Hitrovan07 2 February 2014 15: 17
      +4
      There is an airport there. So our Airborne Forces will provide "help".
  6. santush
    santush 2 February 2014 07: 50
    +5
    Well done Rusyns from Transcarpathia! And it's time for Russia to become more active in settling the mess in Ukraine! Probably, you need to dial someone's phone and say: “Vitek, let's stop the mess immediately!” Well, or something else, I don't know.
  7. best0719
    best0719 2 February 2014 07: 59
    +3
    Well done, no words.
  8. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 2 February 2014 08: 37
    +5
    Let us hope that the new Munich Treaty will not become treacherous towards the Slav brothers and our political leadership will have the courage and firmness to defend the rights and freedoms of Ruthenians and Russians in Ukraine! God grant!
  9. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 2 February 2014 08: 42
    +14
    Everyone concerned, After the collapse of the Russian Empire in those places there was such a country: Transcarpathian Russia Do you make your own conclusions? These are our people! and no other way!
    1. vostok1982
      vostok1982 2 February 2014 13: 18
      +3
      After the collapse of Austria-Hungary.
    2. Galan
      Galan 2 February 2014 14: 50
      +3
      Subcarpathian Russia, which voluntarily joined the Czechoslovak Union (Czechoslovak Republic as a broad autonomy).
  10. AnpeL
    AnpeL 2 February 2014 09: 57
    +3
    article is a definite plus. but I just didn’t understand: Rusyns are some kind of ethnic group or are they Russians who call themselves so in Transcarpathia?
    1. gorgo
      gorgo 2 February 2014 10: 20
      +15
      Yes, we are all Russians here in Ukraine. It's just that if in the center and in the west they managed to stick a new ridiculous name "Ukrainians", then in Transcarpathia it did not work, and they still consider themselves Russians. But they are called "Rusyns" - in their own way. Rus, Rusyns, Russians ... Well these are all historical names.
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 February 2014 10: 32
        -11%
        Quote: gorgo
        But they are called "Rusyns" - in their own way. Rus, Rusyns, Russians

        Sorry, but these are words of an illiterate person. Russians live in Poland. in Romania, Serbia, Hungary. In general, they are few. About 100 thousand.
    2. vostok1982
      vostok1982 2 February 2014 13: 24
      +12
      This is an ethnic subgroup of the Russian ethnic group. Namely the Russian ethnos, and not the Russian superethnos. Transcarpathia fell under the power of Hungary in the 10-11 centuries, and nevertheless, managed to maintain Russian self-identification. Largely due to the fact that the Hungarians were much more tolerant of the Rusyns than the Austrians or Poles. Already during the years of Ukraine’s independence, the leaders of the Ruthenian national movement were subjected to mass persecution on charges of separatism. Although not one of the Rusyns' leaders ever advocated disconnection from Ukraine, it was only for the autonomy that the region enjoyed during its inter-war period as part of Czechoslovakia.
      In Uzhgorod, almost everyone speaks Russian, and when, after 1991, UNA-UNSO (a terrorist organization, the successor of the Bandera UPA) tried to infiltrate Transcarpathia, the locals gave them a decisive rebuff.
      1. 120352
        120352 2 February 2014 15: 13
        -1
        Strictly speaking, this is a sub-ethnicity in the superethnos.
        1. vostok1982
          vostok1982 2 February 2014 16: 15
          +4
          the Russian superethnos is not only Rusich proper, but also Tatars, Mordovians, Chuvashs and so on. And the Russian ethnic group is the essence of the Russians. That is, the Great Russians, Little Russians, Belarusians and Rusyns.
    3. 120352
      120352 2 February 2014 15: 11
      +3
      Rusyns are Russians. Russians are a polysyllabic nation = civilization, consisting of different same-root peoples: Little Russians, Belarusians, Great Russians, Rusyns and others.
  11. svp67
    svp67 2 February 2014 10: 11
    +3
    Hang on Uzhhorod! It was worse ...
    1. vostok1982
      vostok1982 2 February 2014 13: 25
      +7
      There were times worse, but there was no mean ...
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 2 February 2014 10: 24
    +5
    Rusyns - Eastern Slavs of Western Russia.
    And there is a very interesting article here .... (How Rusyns became Ukrainians)
    http://gazeta.zn.ua/SOCIETY/kak_rusiny_stali_ukraintsami.html
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 February 2014 10: 36
      -1
      Quote: Egoza
      And there is a very interesting article here .... (How Rusyns became Ukrainians)

      Lena. You can even be called a cannibal from the Mumba-Yumbo tribe. But if you do not observe traditions and rituals, you will not be considered so.
  13. tank64rus
    tank64rus 2 February 2014 10: 38
    +5
    Rusyns are our brothers part of the Russian World.
  14. Akim
    Akim 2 February 2014 10: 41
    -4
    I have a question. An article recently appeared here: If Ukraine suddenly collapses: geopolitical fantasywhere Transcarpathia goes towards the EU. What new information has appeared and are changing our minds?
    1. Yuriwhite
      Yuriwhite 2 February 2014 11: 06
      +3
      The collapse of Ukraine is a myth. Neither the EU (USA) nor Russia needs a walk-field. In other words, all countries are subjects of world politics, for a united Ukraine.
      1. 120352
        120352 2 February 2014 23: 14
        +1
        Alas! But the divorce has already taken place. Ukraine fell apart. And Gulyai-Pole is only New Russia, donated by the Bolshevik authorities of Little Russia, renamed by then Ukraine. The composition of New Russia: Odessa, Nikolaev, Crimea, Kherson. Donetsk Lugansk, Kharkov.
  15. captain
    captain 2 February 2014 10: 59
    +2
    Our leaders of the Rusyns will betray, as they once betrayed Adzharia.
    1. Yuriwhite
      Yuriwhite 2 February 2014 11: 03
      +7
      Why didn't South Ossetia or Abkhazia be betrayed? Hint - you didn't have to be much vector ....
  16. alone
    alone 2 February 2014 11: 19
    0
    A single and indivisible Ukraine - The main result of everything that happens I think will be this. Yanukovych, Yushchenko, Tymoshenko come and go. And Ukraine should remain the way it was. With its west, east, south and north! am
    1. 120352
      120352 2 February 2014 23: 20
      +2
      Read Taras Bulba N.V. Gogol. There he very clearly calls his people, current Ukrainians, Russians, and Ukraine - Russian land. This is a historical fact.
  17. avt
    avt 2 February 2014 11: 40
    +5
    Quote: lonely
    One and indivisible

    United and indivisible, this is Russia and it must remain that way. Otherwise, many, including the newly formed republics from the fragments of the USSR, will choke on their own blood in the wars that will inevitably be unleashed by them, or they will be gently pushed towards them by "human well-wishers" from "civilized" countries. Or do you seriously think that what is happening in the Levant is not about you ??
    Quote: lonely
    And Ukraine should remain as it was.

    What was she like? How did Stalin create it? Well, who, according to our new and Ukrainian textbooks, is a complete fiend of hell? Something that is in no hurry to embark on the path of "democracy and freedoms" to get rid of the "totalitarian legacy of Stalin's times", even the already officially considered Poles and Lithuanians, could return what was given to them to the Germans, the Lithuanians renamed Vilnius to Vilna and give Batka, well, the Poles nakraynyak ...
    Quote: lonely
    With its west, east, south and north!

    For 24 years, the "independent" pro-nationalist leadership has brought the country and the people inhabiting it to such a state that there is only one step left before the war. And so far, only united Russia keeps it from him through diplomacy and finance. And how much the GDP will have to keep this balance on Ukraine? He doesn't have so many pieces in the Great Game to fend off a retaliatory move that will throw Ukraine into the abyss as an integral state.
    1. alexng
      alexng 2 February 2014 12: 52
      +5
      Putin is a world geopolitical master grandmaster and I have no doubt that he can bring an unexpected surprise. In the meantime, many people think that the calm is due to the Olympics, but still, most likely, Putin is simply luring the West into a trap like "Ladoga Ice". After all, the democratical "knights" are very heavy and motionless.
    2. alone
      alone 2 February 2014 13: 16
      +4
      With these comments AVTs make enemies, not friends. You don’t want everyone to contradict yourself. Do you think that if everyone gathers under your flag again, will there be order? I advise you to restore order in your own country first. When you call nascists fascists, you forget about your who go out with swastikas and zigzag.
      You can’t only plant one stool for specific crimes. Why do we all have such laws? We already have our thieves throat, do you also want to buy your thieves? Thank you, we will manage without your thieves. And we will deal with our own ones. hi
      1. avt
        avt 2 February 2014 13: 41
        +6
        Quote: lonely
        .Naming fascists fuckers, you yourself forget about yours, who go out with swastikas and are zigzagged.

        And for me, EVERYONE who personally throws up a hand at Hitler and his lackeys, but hang out and pray on their portraits - the Nazis, for me there is no difference - the Galician supporters of Bandera, or stupid undergrowth - the descendants of the inhabitants of the besieged Leningrad whose ancestors Hitler wanted to destroy, back in I put this series of liberoids like "Dozhd" - propagandists of the advantages of using "Bavarian" beer in the event of Hitler's victory.
        Quote: lonely
        With these comments, AVTs make enemies, not friends.

        Earn money, but not friends, friends either have or do not have them ,,, earned friends "are called somewhat differently depending on their value and the degree of neglect towards them.
        Quote: lonely
        Do you think if everyone gathers again under your flag, will there be order?

        By all means, it will be so, but on condition that they noted -
        Quote: lonely
        I advise you first to clean up your home in Russia.

        It cost us not even that order - a hint of building order to show how immediately everyone felt it. Don't believe me? Compare the situation that was at the time when "common people" tore Libya to shreds with the situation in Syria.
        Quote: lonely
        .Not need to wish everyone that contradicts himself.

        And here you are confusing what is really happening in Ukraine due to the fault of the "independent" authorities, as a result of their rule on the basis of a nationalist policy of separating the people from the Russian World since 1991, in particular, with something virtual. If not, give my specific statement, we will discuss it.
        1. alone
          alone 2 February 2014 13: 52
          -1
          Quote: avt
          with the situation in Syria.


          What has changed there? The war is going on as before. The only thing they achieved was to leave Syria without XO to the delight of Israel. They have already stopped giving gas masks to their citizens)) a very real help to the budget of Israel.

          Quote: avt
          By all means, it will be so, but on condition that they noted -


          let's get along! An alliance with weak countries cannot be strong! this is absurd. Want to be a strong power, really work for your country. What will Russia become strong together with Moldova, Tajikistan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and other other subsidized countries?
          1. avt
            avt 2 February 2014 15: 10
            +3
            Quote: lonely
            What has changed there? And

            There are no "humanitarian bombings" of "common people" such as in Libya and, as unlike Libya, Russia provides assistance to a sane, legitimate government. If you don't see any difference, that's your problem.
            Quote: lonely
            let's get along!

            To the free - will, to the saved - paradise. Nobody drags anywhere now - they make an offer and if you refuse, then you bear all the risks yourself, without clicking your teeth about the fact that you are forced, your hands are twisted "like the same Yanukovych to whom the GDP softly showed what would happen when he signed the association and with what he will have to cope ONLY, without the support of Russia.
            1. alone
              alone 2 February 2014 21: 49
              0
              As for the bombing. Well, let's say the West does not bomb Syria is a plus. But yesterday Aleppo was bombed from the air by the Syrian Air Force. Total 45 killed. Is there a difference?
              No, people are dying, who cares who kills them, but if they really stopped the slaughter, that would be the case.

              Quote: avt
              To the free - will, to the saved - paradise. Nobody drags anywhere now - they make an offer and if you refuse, then you bear all the risks yourself, without clicking your teeth about the fact that you are forced, your hands are twisted "like the same Yanukovych to whom the GDP softly showed what would happen when he signed the association and with what he will have to cope ONLY, without the support of Russia.


              We have no problems with Yanukovych. We didn’t aspire to the EU, we didn’t sign up for an association, we don’t seek the CU. We don’t need loans. We have enough finances. There is one problem, and sooner or later we will solve it. And about the risks, say correctly if it is announced independence)) responsibility and risks should be borne by themselves, and not shoulder problems. hi

              P.S.integration towards Russia directly depends on Russia's position in the conflict. What will be the position, the same steps will be taken.
              1. 120352
                120352 2 February 2014 23: 23
                0
                Aleppo has not been bombed. Pointed strikes were made on the positions of the militants.
                1. alone
                  alone 3 February 2014 18: 59
                  -1
                  Bombs are conducted from MI-8 helicopters. Bombs are thrown by hand. If this is called point strikes, then I no longer have words.
  18. delfinN
    delfinN 2 February 2014 11: 55
    +2
    Quote: valokordin
    Urgently provide economic assistance to our Transcarpathian brothers in the form of a Euro loan and money, then it is necessary a little, much less than the ungrateful Abkhazians.


    I support you with my heart, but I just can’t do it with my mind. But because historical experience suggests otherwise. Yes, and Fedor Mikhailovich confirms this:
    F.M. Dostoevsky about the Slavic "brothers" of Russia:
    "... according to my inner conviction, the most complete and insurmountable - Russia will never have and never had such haters, envious people, slanderers and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them released!
    And do not mind me, do not dispute, do not shout at me that I am exaggerating and that I am a hater of the Slavs! On the contrary, I love the Slavs very much, but I won’t defend myself either, because I know that everything will come true exactly like I say, and not because of the low, ungrateful, as if, character of the Slavs - they have a character in this sense, like everyone else, namely because such things in the world cannot happen otherwise.
    1. creak
      creak 2 February 2014 12: 06
      +1
      To the very point ... As you know, not a single good deed will go unpunished, Fedor Mikhailovich was right, he looked far away ....
    2. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 2 February 2014 13: 17
      +10
      I think you are wrong. In the years 1914-1917, Austria-Hungary destroyed, imprisoned tens of thousands of Galician and Carpathian Rusyns in concentration camps only because they were Rusyns and strove for Russia in every possible way (their slogan is the united Russian people from the Carpathians to Kamchatka). Even in Lviv there were many Russophile organizations of Rusyns, which were later destroyed by the Poles and Stalin. So the Rusyns have proved their commitment to the Russian world and Russia is obliged to help them, these are not Bulgarians. This is part of ancient Russia, preserved to this day.
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 2 February 2014 15: 08
        +6
        I fully support! Now we need to gather allies, and not look for enemies among them! It is a question of the survival of fraternal peoples!
    3. vostok1982
      vostok1982 2 February 2014 13: 28
      +6
      These words of Fyodor Mikhailovich in no case did not apply to Little Russians, Belarusians or Rusyns. Then no one divided the Russian people into nationalities; all Russians were considered the Russian people. These words are addressed to the Bulgarians, Poles, Yugoslavs.
  19. avt
    avt 2 February 2014 13: 57
    +4
    Quote: vostok1982
    These words are addressed to the Bulgarians, Poles, Yugoslavs.

    You are absolutely right !!! Just very carefully and for a long time our probable friends - bearers of “universal” values ​​worked very carefully and for a long time to increase the list, who created for them some kind of Great-Ukrainian porridge that the inhabitants of Ukraine are now eating.
    Quote: vostok1982
    to Little Russians, Belarusians or Rusyns.
    are not an integral part of the Russian World, its active builders, and has led to the current situation when the idea is that they are flawed, victims of colonialism, and not the founders and builders of the Empire, no matter how it was called throughout history.
  20. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 2 February 2014 14: 33
    +3
    For the first time I learned that there are Rusyns (at first I thought that there was a typo in the book) twenty years ago, after reading a book about the time of the planting of Uniate in the Carpathians. I do not remember the author and the title of the book, but then I was very impressed with what and how the Rusyns had to endure for their faith. And now it’s hard for them. But do not give up. I respect these people.
  21. shelva
    shelva 2 February 2014 14: 55
    +1
    It turns out that Russia has an ally in the west - Transcarpathia. It pleases, and our duty is to support them at least diplomatically. They need to know that they are not alone.
  22. nikolaev
    nikolaev 2 February 2014 15: 05
    +6
    If you look at the links below, then it is perfectly legal to ask: "Why is the world community not taking any measures against the United States? After all, all the evil in the world comes from there! Including the Maidan! Including corruption in Ukraine is a consequence US policy! "

    The United States stands behind all the troubles of Ukraine by creating a corrupt oligarchic elite and a network of corrupt and deceitful media
    Maidan lies: makeup of Mikhailo Garilyuk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8t3FMrUFuU8

    Who bought the Maidan?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEGdpGJ8_mM


    How the USA “protects” nature and “cares” for its citizens when it’s not window dressing, but real costs and punishments of the guilty are required!
    Gulf metastases. Part 9-1
    Posted On Site: Admin. Date: February 1, 2014. Topic Cognitive
    “FloridaOilSpillLaw.com”, USA
    Link to the original
    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/14893


    Syria struggles with US democratization
    What has turned into a recently blooming country!
    Syria tank attack on terrorists
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYYWvTp2oC4#t=72


    Double standards in the service of US slaves.
    The opinion of the people is ignored! The people shut their mouths!
    Independent referendum on independence held in Gagauzia
    Posted On Site: Admin. Date: February 2, 2014. News section
    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/14987
  23. Sanyht
    Sanyht 2 February 2014 17: 25
    +6
    Transcarpathia - WORKS !!! people plow to get at least a little closer to the normal level of LIFE !!! and only the homeless people of the West climbed out of their caches and work foreign wrappers.
  24. tank74
    tank74 2 February 2014 18: 54
    0
    The question is not the topic. And why are there so many users under the Chinese flag? belay
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 2 February 2014 19: 02
      +4
      Quote: tank74
      The question is not the topic. And why are there so many users under the Chinese flag?

      laughing Everything is already captured! And there is nothing written on the flag (SU) sovet union!
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 2 February 2014 19: 31
      0
      Quote: tank74
      The question is not the topic. And why are there so many users under the Chinese flag? belay

      They are Chinese spies and agents of influence laughing
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 2 February 2014 19: 35
        +3
        Quote: And Us Rat
        They are Chinese spies and agents of influence laughing

        I would say who is the mossad spy here! tongue
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 2 February 2014 20: 01
          0
          Quote: Sid.74
          Quote: And Us Rat
          They are Chinese spies and agents of influence laughing

          I would say who is the mossad spy here! tongue

          Moysha, did not fall !!! belay Your task is not finished yet !!! belay
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 2 February 2014 20: 16
            +3
            In our state there may be someone's spies. But my homeland has only scouts! bully
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 2 February 2014 20: 27
              0
              Quote: Sid.74
              In our state there may be someone's spies. But my homeland has only scouts! bully

              Mine too tongue
    3. biglow
      biglow 2 February 2014 19: 33
      +4
      Quote: tank74
      The question is not the topic. And why are there so many users under the Chinese flag? belay

      this is the flag of the Soviet Union, we obtained from the site administration the right to use such a flag, to those who are closer to it than multi-colored rags of some countries ... laughing
      1. Ustian
        Ustian 2 February 2014 22: 38
        +1
        I don’t think my flag is a rag! Although it was made in the USSR.
    4. tank74
      tank74 3 February 2014 15: 58
      +1
      Sorry, I didn’t figure it out, but I think where so many of them come from. hi
  25. kush62
    kush62 2 February 2014 18: 56
    +3
    Quote: nikolaev
    The United States stands behind all the troubles of Ukraine by creating a corrupt oligarchic elite and a network of corrupt and deceitful media
    Maidan lies: makeup of Mikhailo Garilyuk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8t3FMrUFuU8

    Half (good, in the sense of large) lies with the Ukrainian government itself. Any rot starts on the affected parts of the body. There would not be such a mess in the country, there would not have been such a "Maidan".
  26. konvalval
    konvalval 2 February 2014 19: 28
    0
    Pushkin about Transcarpathia: "Here is the Russian spirit, here it smells of Russia."
  27. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 2 February 2014 20: 00
    +3
    Dear colleagues, I welcome everyone! I learned a lot from your posts, thank you. I am especially glad for Rusinov - they have preserved their language of originality, faith in Russia that has become distant, but close to the heart! Plus those who say: Russian is not only Russian, it is a Tatar, Chuvash, Mordvin, it is the Germans who came to Russia in the 18th century, these are other peoples who swore allegiance to the White Tsar and defended Mother Russia as their Motherland in a dashing time! But this is not a "swamp abomination" and not "Banderlog" and others who are with them - who interfere Russia to live and develop. RUSSIA was and is, GREAT, and UKRAINE will remain BROTHERLY for Eternity!
  28. shelva
    shelva 2 February 2014 20: 17
    +2
    And yet, the Rusyns must be supported, they are allies of Russia tested by time.
  29. rkty666
    rkty666 2 February 2014 21: 26
    +3
    Rusinov and Crimeans, especially Sevastopol, unites the craving for Great Russia. I am sure it will remain for centuries.
  30. Ustian
    Ustian 2 February 2014 22: 30
    +3
    For orientation in space:




    Taxed from all p ..
  31. komel
    komel 2 February 2014 23: 05
    +2
    The only "autonomy" in Ukraine, the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, is more by name, its autonomy is limited, and therefore declarative and false. The second region, which has long and justly claimed an autonomous status, is the Transcarpathian region, which is largely populated by Rusyns. President L. Kuchma and President V. Yushchenko repeatedly made campaign promises to recognize the Rusyns. During his visits to the United States, V. Yushchenko constantly meets with representatives of the Ruthenian movement, vowing to recognize the Ruthenians and allow at least cultural autonomy. The Ruthenian Diaspora of America ... made sure that the Republican candidate for US Vice President Sarah Palin demanded that Viktor Yushchenko recognize the Rusyns during the visit of the Ukrainian President to Washington. One must understand why the Americans did so: they were really afraid that Russia would be engaged in Rusyns. So, in fact, the Americans advocated the federalization of Ukraine, because the main requirement of the Rusyns is a federation.
    Probably, the federalization of Ukraine is the only way by which Ukrainian statehood, which is cracking at the seams, can be preserved. The differences in the historical routes of Crimea and Galicia, Donbass and Volhynia are too great, and geopolitical aspirations are completely polar. Before, federalization was mainly spoken by the East of Ukraine. But now the West of the country is talking about this very harshly and aggressively.
    The opposition seized the administration of western Ukraine and actually provokes power to force the return of the lost. The federalization of Ukraine can solve these problems today and prevent this from happening in the future.
  32. shelva
    shelva 3 February 2014 00: 11
    +1
    [quote = And Us Rat] [quote = Sid.74] There may be spies in our state. But my homeland has only scouts! bully [/ Quote]
    A spy to a scout is not a friend, not a friend or brother, but simply an adversary.
  33. siberalt
    siberalt 3 February 2014 01: 46
    +3
    Good news! If only the Popular Front of Ukraine would start working. Yes, I would tie together all the pro-Russian regions into a single stronghold. Around-the-clock actions in Moscow and Kiev at the American embassies with the demand "Hands off Ukraine" would not hurt! And pictures on all the news channels. Then our liberoids will be like a louse in a frying pan.
  34. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 3 February 2014 02: 32
    +2
    We asked to answer the questions about the situation in Transcarpathia and in Ukraine, as a whole, of the famous figure of the Rusynsky movement Pyotr Getsko. We make a reservation in advance that we can not agree with all the assessments and wishes expressed. However, we consider it appropriate to provide an information platform for a representative of a region with a strategic position.

    Hm. And with what exactly in this interview P. Getsko does the author disagree? what
    It is quite sensible reasoning of a public figure of Ruthenians based on a sound analysis of events. What more can be said? Everything is correctly said! good And from our side, Transcarpathia needs comprehensive support. We are one people and must live in unity. If “civilized” Europe gets in there again, the Rusyns will have to literally fight for their lives again.
  35. Alex toll
    Alex toll 3 February 2014 16: 25
    +1
    We are all descendants of the Great Slavic civilization, we have a priori enemies - this is at the genetic level - example Lions will never live with wolves and will compete with each other, but we were separated not by the signs of civilization, but by borders and trying to quarrel jackals and destroy as we did with the Indians, you yourself know who .... on the principle of divide and conquer - now they are still trying to fragment Ukraine.

    I honestly always thought and still think that Ukraine, Belarus, Russia - these are brothers - just had a fight, but all the same brothers and one day we will meet and sit at the same table! Then the Anglo-Saxons will wake up in a cold sweat - they are afraid of this !!!

    Glory of the Great Russian Empire!!!

    Do not buy burgers and Lady Gaga - youth !!! from them only bitsukha becomes decrepit and not only !!!