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War at our borders. Why is it inevitable

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War at our borders. Why is it inevitable... In fact, the performance of Navalny's “nationalist” in support of the Ukrainian Maidan orgy should not surprise anyone: the fact that these our contemporaries are fed from one trough is a secret, sorry, Polichinel.


Whoever eats a girlfriend, forgive her and dance.

It’s also interesting not the similarity of political technology schemes implemented - it’s more than obvious, and this was often said and written, including here, on “However”, and not only your humble servant: just look at the recent publication of Anatoly Wasserman.

We are more interested in the fact that in different places of the planet with this realization of the same “schemes” “at the exit” for some reason almost always everything turns out differently. In terms of results.

Take, for the purity of the experiment, territories where the implementation of these political technologies has, for various reasons, done without gross external interference and / or direct foreign intervention. Libya, Syria and the former Yugoslavia are therefore not suitable for us, Russia, Egypt and Ukraine remain.

Here we compare them.

The result is what is called - on the face.

So.

In the Russian Federation, a carefully prepared “belolentochnaya revolution” (the fact that it was thoroughly prepared was easily confirmed by the medical fact that the website of the White Ribbon movement to combat fraud in the elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation was registered in the United States by Israeli citizen Arsen Revazov long before the elections themselves, right after a certain V.V. Putin announced his desire to be elected for the third presidential term, and the revolution was immediately called “snowy”, although there was no snow at all that winter) - so: in Russia This carefully prepared and generously financed “revolution” by the Federation has failed in a completely magical manner. Not only to the complete bankruptcy of the entire constellation of the participants of the process, but, in fact, to the complete discrediting of all shades of the anti-state ideology in general. It can be said that for Russia it turned out to be something like an infectious disease, from which the patient, if not dying, acquires stable immunity.

In Egypt, the “revolution” seemed to have won at first, but then, thank God, it was quite well suppressed to the joy of the majority of the long-suffering Egyptian people. Although, of course, not yet fully.

Ukraine, especially in the light of recent events - I really don’t want to “croak”, but even hunting is no longer a lie to itself — it seems that it is sliding into the “Yugoslav version”. And even without any “humanitarian bombing” to you. No matter how sad it sounds, but - and they even, it turns out, are not needed here: these politicians are without American aviation quite capable of bombing themselves.

And here arises the most important, from my point of view, question: why ?!

The difference in mentalities?

Different economies?

There is something else, the same abstract?

Come on.

It’s just that the Russian Federation, which was most carefully “hunted” and which most of all, will be frankly lucky, at the time of the “attack of political technologists” was capable — albeit rather imperfect — but at least partially sovereign, which means responsible state.

Egypt didn’t have such a state, but there was at least an army - yes, a business mired in unusual business structures and other dubious affairs - but organized and, most importantly, understanding that it has something to fear and something to protect it from .

In Ukraine, at this particular point in time, do not deceive yourself, there is nothing at all.

In addition to the repeatedly devoted "Berkut" and Orthodox monks with icons.

Instead of the state - oligarchic clans gnawing between themselves.

Instead of the army, it is generally not clear what.

The rest is purely regional self-organization: in the west it is its own, in the east, of course, it is its own.

What comes out of this - anyone can guess himself.

And - with any outcome of the current stage of "confrontation".
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 1 February 2014 08: 21
    +10
    Yes, in UKRAINE there was a de facto diarchy — there was such a moment in RUSSIA in 1917 — according to the laws of the genre, the country's saviors should soon come out onto the scene (I don’t know the truth who they will represent and who will be behind them).
    1. jjj
      jjj 1 February 2014 08: 28
      +10
      Last night I was just thinking on this topic. I agree with your findings and with the author
    2. domokl
      domokl 1 February 2014 08: 50
      +11
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Yes, in Ukraine there was an actual dual power - there was such a moment in RUSSIA in 1917 YEAR

      I wonder on what basis you made such a conclusion? People's Parliament is happy with what it controls? Someone submits to it? Rather, it is a kind of discussion club. And it will act as long as the negotiations continue. Is the government of Yanukovych? Does it control the situation? Controls the army, the police?
      So rather anarchy ... In such a situation, in March, a completely new power can take power ... Just take, because. In general, it is, in principle, not needed ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 1 February 2014 08: 55
        +2
        Well, judge for yourself — the central government is worthless and weak — the country is divided into two halves with different views on the future — the army holds neutrality — unauthorized seizures of government in the west of UKRAINE — and many other signs .... is that what?
        1. domokl
          domokl 1 February 2014 09: 06
          +4
          Alexey, I don’t have to judge .. In 1917 there really was a dual power — the Provisional Government, having disbanded the security forces and the army, nevertheless led the country's civilian institutions ... But the Bolsheviks, on the contrary, created a real fighting force that could solve with the help of weapons any problem ...
          In Ukraine, the situation is completely opposite ... Nobody controls, in essence, anything. Do you really think the Maidan fighters are a real force capable of resisting the same Golden Eagle?
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 1 February 2014 09: 13
            +17
            Alexander is good for a detachment of lions if they are headed by a hare.


            I pay tribute to BERKUT for his stoic patience, but the political spineless leadership of UKRAINE is playing a double game and it is impossible to predict specifically anything.
            1. domokl
              domokl 1 February 2014 09: 22
              +6
              Well, and you have come to my own conclusion ... Anarchy ... Neither Maidanutykh nor Yanukovych have power as such. And the confrontation is, in many ways, local. The East will never accept Western ideas, the East West ...
              And the Golden Eagle is just the hostages of the oath ... But not a wordless one, but well-trained and embittered fighters ... Embittered at everyone and everything ... And on the Maydanuty (for their injured and dead colleagues), and on Yanukovych (for weakness in the knees)
              1. CALL.
                CALL. 1 February 2014 10: 30
                +23
                Present Ukraine is exhausted by eternal poverty and disorder. The national per capita income in it is $ 1520 per year. (For comparison: in Morocco-1730, in Guatemala - 2400, in Albania - 2520 dollars.) From eternal pain, Ukraine throws from one illusion to another. It seems to people: power is to blame. Now, if you go to the Maidan, discard the old nomenclature and immediately it becomes easier. The worst thing is that their business is stillborn. You can shoot Yanukovych and Akhmetov, completely “christen” the inhabitants of the East and South of Ukraine in the “orange faith”, fill the Verkhovna Rada with zapadents - and still nothing will come of it. Ukraine has nothing to earn a living. She has no place in the global division of labor. Ukraine cannot offer the world anything but coal, manganese, a share of metallurgical products, migrant workers and girls. To live well, you need to earn money. Shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing, mechanical engineering, electronics, the chemical industry - all this is already developed in others. All these industries developed in the West and the East when the “independent” stagnated and wasted Soviet legacy. The science? Pogroman. Ukraine can no longer boast of cheap and skilled labor: they managed to lose their qualifications, and trained cheap labor now in China, Thailand, and Malaysia. It is cheaper than Ukrainian. You can’t sell Ukrainian food either: nobody needs it. Yes, he and the most "independent" is now missing. Present Ukraine - Ruin.
                I repeat once again for the "maydaunov". Nobody needs an “extra country”. No one except Russia.
                1. igor.borov775
                  igor.borov775 1 February 2014 12: 46
                  -3
                  It’s sad to read this comment. Moreover, wishful thinking is true. Where it is written and stated that this country doesn’t need anyone. Mrs Merkel didn’t say this and not a single EU official didn’t say it. You’re talking nonsense. I don’t need it, I really need it too far, everything has gone so hard to bring it back, But in fact it’s a pure blow to our so-called liberal democrats if Ukraine leaves there, but we all will really understand who is driving us, All the loud statements of our authorities will look a bluff about the paramount importance of establishing better relations with the countries of the former UNION. Last year, so far no one from top-level officials can answer why such a meager growth of our GNP. They bring all kinds of rubbish in Europe somewhere but we live here and not there, Why is the growth of this GNP in INDIA in CHINA in TURKEY and even ITALY far ahead of us? Why is the second year marking the bottom and listening to Mr. Ulyukaev’s clearance in the coming years? It’s not foreseen what kind of power we have that swears on all screens that it’ll be fine, How much can we feed this fable, But the Ukrainians are tired of such power, they just want the laws to work not in words but in the present and all before the laws were equal , This smallness shakes the whole state, the people have practically lost faith in the authorities and the authorities are in no hurry to convince them of the opposite, This is a strong trump card and the Europeans masterfully play it, And for us, the departure of Ukraine will automatically bring us down and we can forget about any growth, And the Europeans are wonderful they understand this and put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities, It’s a misfortune not only of this country but probably of all the CIS countries, Twenty years trampled on their history spitting on everyone who did what they did before the Liberal Democrats = Now a generation has grown up that is confident that our countries are completely sucks and they have no place in a world that is so diligently sculpted by the power structures of these countries
                  1. CALL.
                    CALL. 1 February 2014 13: 58
                    +4
                    Quote: igor.borov775
                    Mrs Merkel didn’t say this, and not a single EU official said this,

                    She would have told you. Surprisingly, there are still others who believe European integrators. See what happened to Bulgaria (there is an article on this forum), Romania, Serbia, and the Baltic states. Does the experience of neighbors teach anything? Read the agreement itself, there is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyYq1gCj2rU
                  2. Alekseev
                    Alekseev 1 February 2014 16: 51
                    +5
                    Quote: igor.borov775
                    Where it is written and stated that this country doesn’t need anyone. Mrs Merkel didn’t say this, and not a single EU official said it. You’re talking nonsense. They’ve seized Ukraine if it’s not needed.

                    I need it. yes
                    But not as a state with a high-tech industry, here your opponent is right. And not even as a supplier of cheap labor force, products of "dirty" metallurgical and chemical industries, etc.
                    She is needed mainly by Ms. Merkel and others like her, so that God forbid, does not integrate with Russia, and thereby does not strengthen the Russian Federation as a global political and economic competitor.
                    Nevertheless, 45 million people, excellent arable land, metallurgy, etc. In such circumstances, it is not necessary to be a leader in high technology at all.
                    And the integration of the economies of Russia and Ukraine will give a strong impetus to the development, in addition to agriculture, iron and steel production, and also high-tech manufacturing industries. For these industries are historically part of one industry, artificially divided.
                2. Setrac
                  Setrac 1 February 2014 16: 10
                  +6
                  Quote: Z.O.V.
                  Ukraine has nothing to earn a living. She has no place in the global division of labor.

                  Ukraine has a place, only it is not in the west, it is in the Customs Union
                  1. CALL.
                    CALL. 1 February 2014 16: 48
                    +4
                    Quote: Setrac
                    Ukraine has a place, only it is not in the west, it is in the Customs Union

                    Yes, Sergey agrees. And I wrote it. The desire to join the Customs Union has already been expressed by Armenia and Israel. And he knows that. where is the benefit.
                    On the Internet, somewhere there is an article by Vazgen Avagyan "Ukraine and Armenia cannot survive without Russia": http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/22726-avagyan-vazgen-antirusskie-respub
                    liki-slushajte.html
                    Good girl, I wrote everything correctly.
                3. aksakal
                  aksakal 2 February 2014 00: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Z.O.V.
                  I repeat once again for the "maydaunov". Nobody needs an “extra country”. No one except Russia.

                  Harsh, although, unfortunately, it seems to be true. You would be a little more diplomatic, even I felt sorry for the Ukrainians -)))). But I repeat, and I'm also very sorry, I share your point of view. Ukraine, perhaps, had a chance to take place as a state but missed it. And now no one will give her this chance - she is an important bargaining chip in big games, will not let her calmly find her niche in international markets ... In the field of arms export, Russia is not interested - she lacks it, and the Ukrainians have weapons that are almost identical to Russian. Hence, in addition to market competition, Russia will use its much greater political weight in the struggle for arms contracts. The potential of the Ukrainians in the field of agriculture was in the field of soybean cultivation and other things - yes, it did. For in Europe and Russia they use the same South American soy, and they grow their own well. Ukraine’s industry is not competitive without cheap gas, Russia is not going to sell ANYONE to Ukraine for cheap, and Ukraine does not want to become OWN to Russia ... In general, it’s sad, but we hope for the best. Good luck to the Ukrainians
          2. EvilLion
            EvilLion 1 February 2014 13: 35
            0
            The fighting force in the form of local troops is still not enough, although the Bolsheviks, by their willingness to act, specifically put everyone else in the belt.
        2. Arhj
          Arhj 1 February 2014 09: 49
          +8
          Sadly, "two halves" can be an optimistic option. The country can fall apart into many more parts. I agree with Domokles in Ukraine there is no capable government now. There is no center of power. There is no unity either among the official authorities or among the so-called opposition. The army withdrew. The police do not know who they are fighting for and, in fact, are already fighting for themselves.
          Feudalism damn it ... Further unprintable ...
        3. Victor
          Victor 1 February 2014 17: 49
          +4
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          -army keeps neutrality-

          Yesterday, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine issued a statement on the full support of the current government. A demand was expressed to the President of Ukraine for the speedy restoration of order (due to the threat of the collapse of the state) and the army’s complete readiness to support all constitutional actions of the President of Ukraine. There is no more neutrality!
      2. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 1 February 2014 09: 33
        +13
        Quote: domokl
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Yes, in Ukraine there was an actual dual power - there was such a moment in RUSSIA in 1917 YEAR

        I wonder on what basis you made such a conclusion? People's Parliament is happy with what it controls? Someone submits to it? Rather, it is a kind of discussion club. And it will act as long as the negotiations continue. Is the government of Yanukovych? Does it control the situation? Controls the army, the police?
        So rather anarchy ... In such a situation, in March, a completely new power can take power ... Just take, because. In general, it is, in principle, not needed ...


        Do you know what's going on? laughing People's Rada, as well as the opposition forces really captured the RSA in Western Ukraine, and the first 3-4 of the day really did not allow anyone to work places. Then it was up to Ragulikov that they had to somehow have kindergartens, schools, hospitals and be paid low-protection grants, etc., they decided to let only employees and even heads of financial departments and structural divisions of the executive power work. Those. those people, without whose signature and work for the official Kiev, the economic life of the regions is impossible. Governors and deputies themselves, now hold meetings in other premises and offices, sometimes even in private ones. And the barricades and Bandera control at the entrance to the RSA remains.

        P.S. The moral is, as I would like, but Bandera also wants to eat, albeit from the hands of a Russian peasant in the East of Ukraine.
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 1 February 2014 11: 35
          +4
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          P.S. The moral is, as I would like, but Bandera also wants to eat, albeit from the hands of a Russian peasant in the East of Ukraine.

          so they deny this. but on the principle, take it, but spit in the face
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 1 February 2014 14: 09
          +14
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          .WITH. The moral is as though I would not want to, but Bandera also wants to eat, albeit from the hands of a Russian peasant in the East of Ukraine.


          Therefore, Yaytsenyuk and went to Merkel for money, I even remembered the Marshal's plan. But in fact, Ukraine does not need a "Marshall plan", but plan to get rid of Ukraine. Until this reaches the majority of the people, there will be a constant Maidanization and the transformation of Ukraine into a bantustan. No elections, resignations, changes of governments (they have changed more than in Honduras), joining Europe will not change anything. The essence of Ukraine and "Maidan" - it is a triumph of betrayal. She justifies centuries-old betrayal, including ourselves. Petliura, Mazepa and Banderlogism are reflections of Josaphat Kuntsevich, the Polish Uniate bishop, protege of the Jesuits. The anti-Russian project "Ukraine" has no future and no plans of Marshal will save.

          A year ago, I was still talking about this and even sane people argued with me and were offended "Ukrainian patriots "that they will not have collapse and revolutions and the Zapadentsy constitute a small minority? Well? Read Bulgakov,White guard, then the Petliurites dragged the Jew along the cobblestones of Khreshchatyk, today the Banderlogists who seized the street are dragging the "titushka".

          Lydia Denisenko: how the Maydan Nazis treat people
          "The aunt was caught!" (PHOTO, VIDEO)



          And I also advise you to remember the detachments of Rudolf Hess, everything also began with fights with the workers of Thälmann. And then they formed the backbone of the police and the SS. Now Tyagnibok is forming the National Guard. Deputy Gritsenko called on the Maidan to arm itself. Lists of radical militants are being drawn up so that, if they come to power, they can form a militia from them. And the slogans practically do not differ - Deutschland? Ber alles and " Ukraine ponad usho "
          Poles on the bus they made to shout "Glory to Ukraine!" have already experienced it on themselves. Soon they will reach the handshake of Ukrainian dreamers about European happiness.
          1. Dock
            Dock 1 February 2014 23: 06
            0
            "But in reality, Ukraine does not need a Marshall Plan, but a plan to get rid of Ukrainians."
            Ah, well done! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! More precisely, you will not say! good
        3. domokl
          domokl 1 February 2014 17: 42
          +1
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          . The moral is as though I would not want to, but Bandera also wants to eat, albeit from the hands of a Russian peasant in the East of Ukraine.

          laughing Interesting information. And the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe ... The revolutionaries were always different in that they knew nothing but balamute ... I remember the assistant to the sworn attorney Ulyanov ... 4 small, almost win-win cases and .... the result is all lost ....
      3. vostok1982
        vostok1982 1 February 2014 11: 56
        0
        In the West of the country, the self-proclaimed authorities are quite capable of themselves - they remove governors and block army units.
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 1 February 2014 14: 41
          +4
          Quote: vostok1982
          In the West of the country, the self-proclaimed authorities are quite capable of themselves - they remove governors and block army units.

          Capable, they will be when they can provide a normal life for people, pay pensions, salaries, pay energy and much more ...
        2. jjj
          jjj 1 February 2014 15: 31
          +5
          Meanwhile, the eastern regions formed the "Ukrainian Front" to cleanse the country from Bandera. At the head - Ryzhkov from "Afghans"
      4. Dilshat
        Dilshat 1 February 2014 23: 04
        +1
        The key time is February 7th, according to State Duma deputy Yevgeny Fedorov. It seems to be saying the right thing. But where's the catch? [media = http: //politobzor.net/show-12210-evgenii-fedorov-pro-evromaydan.html] Ct
        oh is he all the same? A truth-teller or a provocateur?
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 1 February 2014 13: 19
      +4
      Quote: The same Lech
      Yes, in UKRAINE there was a de facto diarchy — there was such a moment in RUSSIA in 1917 — according to the laws of the genre, the country's saviors should soon come out onto the scene (I don’t know the truth who they will represent and who will be behind them).


      Dual power? Yes, there to plant like flowers by the rainbow - in each gateway there is a gopnik whose sovereign one has to set aside the low gateway.
      1. Walking
        Walking 1 February 2014 13: 47
        +4
        Ukraine is not at all clear that in 22 years there has been nothing to achieve, even statehood. This is not a state, but some kind of artificial entity, whatever the Ukrainians themselves say.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 1 February 2014 20: 07
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Yes, in UKRAINE there was a de facto diarchy-

      Strange, but who is the second power ??
      Really maidanutyh you gave the palm ??
      It was worth giving a command and Maidan would disappear with its barricades and there would simply be a square there in the morning. There is no dispersal for the reason that everyone is waiting for him, especially the Western media I think texts have already been prepared, time has been reserved on the channels and we can say that there are sacred victims.
      The only thing that power does wrong is that it has practically betrayed the Golden Eagle! It is worth answering decently at least for one attack and everything will not rise on the Maidan, and not stand stupidly !!!
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 1 February 2014 22: 56
      +3
      Dual power between whom and by whom?

      There is only one power, but incompetent. At first, they copied everything from Russia. Then they moved into the unexplored expanses of "independence", when Russia began to gradually pull its sovereignty from under the State Department’s sole. The author correctly writes, referring to Wasserman's article that everything was done under tracing paper initially. But Russia is looking for its own path of state development, and Ukraine followed the path of collapse at the suggestion of its masters. At the same time, they were assigned an enemy in the person of Russia.
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  2. Name
    Name 1 February 2014 08: 23
    +6
    What will come of it Now we can only speculate, one thing can be said with full confidence: Ukraine will have to recover after the Maidan for a very long time ... But it doesn’t bother the maydauns, they don’t think about it, but it's a pity. After all, they live in Ukraine and need to be a full DOWN to rely on the help of the EU or the USA. hi
    1. domokl
      domokl 1 February 2014 08: 54
      +17
      Quote: name
      Ukraine will have to recover after the Maidan for a very long time ..

      I’m probably going to go further than you ... I’ll have to restore another Ukraine. What I don’t have to return before the Maidan. So I perceive the Maidan now as labor pains ... The birth began, but so far no one can say exactly who will be born .Yes, and about the mother too .. Will she survive, after a difficult birth ...
      1. soaring
        soaring 1 February 2014 14: 53
        +1
        I agree with you, domokl, all 200% And most likely it will happen ...
  3. Neophyte
    Neophyte 1 February 2014 08: 24
    +4
    Absolutely, to the point! Although, the army of Ukraine announced yesterday that it supports Yanukovych, hinting at decisive action. But, this is not an option for Egypt. The military of Ukraine do not think to force Yanukovych to become,
    finally, the guarantor of the Constitution. This is another demarche, like we are watching! There is no army, no SBU, no will
    President. There is a backstage fight for the redivision of economic spheres between the oligarchic clans of Ukraine.
    1. olviko
      olviko 1 February 2014 10: 09
      +12
      "There is no army, no SBU, no will of the president."

      SBU opened a criminal case on an attempt to seize state power. The case was opened after examining materials from the servers of the Kiev office of the opposition Batkivshchyna’s organization seized during the search. "Among the materials that are present in the investigation, there is evidence that this was planned when planning these actions called the power option of their development, that is, the option in which force will be used against the protesters, it will cause a wide resonance and undermine the authority of the current government and the president, ”said Maxim Lenko, head of the department’s main investigative department on 112 Ukraine TV channel.
      The more information about these events comes in, the more understandable the actions of the authorities become. Apparently the owners of the maydanuts gave an order at any cost to provoke the authorities to the use of force, in order to then introduce full-scale sanctions against Ukraine. Then, according to the Syrian version, help the armed opposition with weapons, money, instructors, political and diplomatic support in the world. Once again I take off my hat to the guys from "Berkut", who, with their steadfastness, courage and precise execution of their duty, did not allow such a development of events. I think that the corresponding response of "Berkut" to the scumbags is not far off.
      The Ministry of Internal Affairs put on the wanted list the leader of the public association “Spilna on the Right”, Alexander Danilyuk, who is suspected of organizing mass riots. The Ministry of Internal Affairs also put on the wanted list leaders of the auto-road Sergey Kobu, Dmitry Bulatov and Alexei Gritsenko.
    2. sub307
      sub307 1 February 2014 13: 48
      +1
      Very similar to that.
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  4. pamero
    pamero 1 February 2014 08: 28
    +5
    After 1991, Ukraine, as I see now, lived without any political leadership. The directors put their puppets and enriched themselves! And the people thought everything well, we are our own masters, Puppets led our own lives with the masters! And the people in Ukraine are as different as I see it, and in any other state the only difference is that in any state there is at least some kind of power, and there she is not there. In Ukraine, a terrible Sabbath is coming, and their president has left for sick leave? He has ARZ ha ha snot flowing ha ha some kind of jerk! There are no words. Involuntarily you start looking for the borders of 1940 of the year on the Internet. If only people were not killed there.
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 February 2014 08: 36
    +3
    Hence the conclusion. So that it’s not like in Egypt and Ukraine, it should be patriotic. not a corruption army. And send all the oligarchs to London. And nationalize mining and natural monopolies. Yes, and deal with the fifth column, otherwise we do not have a single state television channel. And different SMRAD (mass media of disinformation campaigning) will wait what they want.
  6. valokordin
    valokordin 1 February 2014 08: 41
    +2
    Yes, I must admit, the war is at our doorstep, but we must deliver a preemptive strike against any force hostile to us. About Belolentochnikov, certainly the enemies of our country, we can say that their statements are true, but the Americans first allowed the same lesbraists to seize power in our country, rob it, and then let down a bunch of other lesbianists against them. And this is done to destroy our country. Also in Ukraine. Oh, not now I.V. Stalin, he would have led everyone to a common denominator.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 1 February 2014 08: 44
      -3
      Why does everyone remember Stalin? Vote for Gardamira!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 1 February 2014 11: 14
        +11
        I respect Stalin and honor him. But how long can you say "eh ..." Is it really all that we have to remember the past?
        Here is my ideology:
        Respect the memory of ancestors
        Keep your tongue
        religious holidays are not state holidays. The state does not interfere and does not facilitate the conduct of religious rites. Believers of any faith should not interfere with other citizens.
        The state keeps traditional family values.
        Military service is an honorable duty.
        Rights and obligations are equal. For example, the right to study is the obligation to study
        the right to work - the duty to work
        and so on.
        Respect for tradition.
        Education of patriotic feelings and respect for national symbols.
        The development of villages, villages and small towns, as the main backbone of the country.
        I ask for comments.
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 1 February 2014 11: 37
          +1
          on all points only "FOR"
  7. Russiaman
    Russiaman 1 February 2014 08: 58
    -13%
    Article is utter nonsense !!!!
    1. Name
      Name 1 February 2014 14: 40
      +4
      Take it, this is right for you.
  8. ars_pro
    ars_pro 1 February 2014 09: 07
    +2
    I would like the authorities and the opposition to agree peacefully, but if, nevertheless, the "illegitimate" do not want to, or cannot compromise, then if they lose, we will dictate what we will be for, but that's not the problem, Western regions are subsidized and they will not be able to give us anything sensible, but moreover, if Ukraine remains integral and the policy changes to a more rational, pro-Russian one, then the western regions will consider that we oppress them and impose our culture, and as you know, you will not be cute , despite the fact that Yanyk is even more or less loyal to western Ukraine and none in relation to the southeast. Thus, against the background of the general, God forbid, the unsuccessful development of the situation, there will be no winners, at least from the people of Ukraine for sure. The question is that if the power still shakes, while it bends, bends but does not break, then Crimea and the entire southeast itself will automatically be able to go to Russia, and jackals like Romania will attempt to attack western Ukraine. It seems that this is how the United States will want to play off Russia and the EU, although it is also not a fact that Europe will sign for Romania or Hungary, we know everything how it is done and decided, they look after the fact and still would not like to see Western Ukraine under the Romanians or Hungarians, then the Western people will probably need to choose and this is where their self-identification will be visible, but for now, the fact that they are there on the Maidan is the usual paid dust, although there are people who really think that they can change something and achieve a little white, fluffy, transparent power, speaks only of their naivety.
    1. 222222
      222222 1 February 2014 10: 53
      +7
      ars_pro UA Today, 09:07 AM New
      "I would like the authorities and the opposition to agree peacefully .."
      ... peacefully with those who threw Molotov cocktails at people ..? .. Finns used such bottles against Russian tanks and Russians in the early years of the war against German tanks .. Do you understand against TANKS ????
      To which the tanks responded with all their firepower, caterpillars ..
      Newton’s third law. The force of action is equal to the reaction force: F1 = -F2
      Impunity breeds chaos ..
      Impunity gives rise to crime ..
      Impunity breeds permissiveness ..
      Impunity gives rise to monsters ...
      Impunity breeds violence ...
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 14
        +2
        Quote: 222222
        Newton’s third law. The force of action is equal to the reaction force: F1 = -F2

        but in our opinion, in a simple way, as he comes around, he will answer laughing
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  10. saag
    saag 1 February 2014 09: 24
    0
    In Egypt, the army was a gray cardinal, in Ukraine it wasn’t at all like that, that’s why the situation is like this, Bandera felt weak, the West helped it and it turns out like in Yugoslavia, and Russia has an Olympiad, not to Ukraine here :-)
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 1 February 2014 10: 51
      +2
      I asked, how is Russia not up to this? what does the Olympics have to do with it? and tomorrow you don’t want to wake up with the Bandera side by side. The president has no business, I’ve played enough. We’ll have to see all this ... we need to rake it.
      1. Arhj
        Arhj 1 February 2014 11: 07
        +5
        In vain! All this orgy is directed against the Olympics. We'll overwhelm the Olympics and suffer image losses. Statements will be in the style "they could not even hold the Olympics." For Russia in Ukraine, it is important to delay. Let's get rid of the Olympics, it will immediately become easier. And surely something is being done. GDP is not and feels the danger. The main thing is not to shout at every corner about your plans, so as not to give an extra reason, but just do your job.
  11. mirag2
    mirag2 1 February 2014 09: 42
    +3
    Yes, in my purely third-party view, it seems that the state of Ukraine collapsed when it was only engaged in tricks with a pipe between the EU and Russia, that was the ruler, an absolutely apolitical politician, spineless worm, and what happens there is a consequence of this spinelessness.
    Well, he has no desire to work for the sake of his country, but for some reason this is a different question.
  12. Normal
    Normal 1 February 2014 09: 44
    -7
    Eh "However" ... In the absence of criticism and opposition, any company degenerates, becomes stupid, relaxes and no longer considers it necessary, at least not to lie stupid and meaningless.
    Pro-government propaganda must be thorough and thoughtful, every statement verified. A gross lie is unacceptable, since in this case propaganda leads to the opposite effect. Of course, convinced, consistent supporters of power receive confirmation of their thoughts and moral satisfaction. But not blinkered citizens immediately see the inconsistency of reality with what is broadcast by "However"
    There is enough petty inaccuracy, a false red word, and there is already no trust in everything written.
    although there was no snow at all that winter

    This is when there was no snow in Russia in winter? Or maybe the author does not live in Russia? More thoroughly, more thoroughly negative Minus article
  13. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 1 February 2014 09: 51
    +12
    In Russia, too, things are still not going smoothly. Liberals are carefully rocking the boat. Take the same law on energy soldering. Whose idea is it, who so diligently wanted to raise the indignation of the people? They wanted to adopt this law already from July 1st. I wanted to prove that this law will not be adopted, Putin will not allow it, but they have mocked me. And what do we see now? The other day, news came that the adoption of this law was postponed for two years. Well, and what do all-envoys say to this? It’s possible to scold our president for something, but he couldn’t be so naive that by introducing this law, the people will humble everything. Someone in our country is eagerly promoting the plans of the West. So it’s too early for us to calm down, the struggle is still ahead. Something like this, sorry for the confusion.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 1 February 2014 10: 15
      +4
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      Putin will not give, but they zamusnuyut me.

      Get a plus at that time.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 1 February 2014 14: 11
        +1
        Quote: ed65b
        Get a plus at that time.

        Why not for this? smile
    2. CALL.
      CALL. 1 February 2014 17: 41
      +1
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      Someone in our country is zealously promoting Western plans

      And this someone, obviously, does not live at the North Pole. This someone has a last name and a place of work.
  14. Sergey Vl.
    Sergey Vl. 1 February 2014 09: 58
    +7
    Honestly, I start to feel nauseous at any mention of the word "Maidan": how the indigenous people of Kiev can tolerate this dictatorship of the outside public, who do not care about this city at all; a camp of tents - you can't even call it a camp, because in the tabor the main decisive and decisive figure is the Baron, and this "troika" (the collective answer, that is, no one in particular) does not even pull the title of baronet gamuzom. Well, at least in Russia they extinguished this storm with Bolotnaya in time! Who is really sorry in Ukraine is the dedicated and sold OMON ... There will be no power - there will be no respect for it, there will be no respect for power - there will be only one thing. MAIDAN ...
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 1 February 2014 11: 07
      +5
      Quote: Sergey Vl.
      how indigenous people of Kiev can tolerate this dictate of the newcomer public,
      ---- sister in Kiev. Maidan unequivocally condemns, Bandera, fascists and all that ..... BUT, it's the fault of ----- Russia !!!!! .......... from YOU and "indigenous Kievans" ...........
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 12: 31
        +5
        Quote: stroporez
        .NO, to blame ----- Russia !!!!!

        and the most interesting thing is that some blame Russia for not interfering. others for climbing everywhere.
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 1 February 2014 17: 51
          +3
          Quote: DMB-78
          .NO, to blame ----- Russia !!!!!

          and the most interesting thing is that some blame Russia for not interfering. others for climbing everywhere.

          All the same, this vile and filthy thing is an information war. Anglo-Saxons, for just so pitted our peoples. Well, not for nothing, but for bags of green paper. Foul these eureka and mattresses. Stalin was right, before the war, who cleaned the fifth column.
        2. stroporez
          stroporez 2 February 2014 10: 14
          -1
          Quote: DMB-78
          that some blame Russia for not interfering. others for climbing everywhere.
          x ..... and where not a kiss, everywhere ...... pa
  15. Salamander
    Salamander 1 February 2014 10: 20
    +2
    By the way, the Ukrainian army is just trying to intervene in the conflict.

    The Ukrainian army urged Viktor Yanukovych to urgently take measures to stabilize the situation in the country.

    Officers of the Ukrainian army called on President Viktor Yanukovych as Commander-in-Chief "to take urgent measures to stabilize the situation in the country and achieve agreement in society." This was reported today by the press service of the Ministry of Defense, referring to the results of the meeting of the military department.

    According to the press service of the department, at the last meeting, servicemen and employees of the Armed Forces discussed the events in Kiev and the state, heard the Minister of Defense Pavel Lebedev and his deputies, and also exchanged views on the situation in the country.

    “The meeting participants expressed concern about the recent situation. According to them, the events taking place in Ukraine cannot but bother people, because they concern the future of the country and each of its citizens, ”the press service said. The military servicemen called unacceptable the forceful seizure of state institutions, the obstruction of representatives of state authorities and local self-government in the performance of their duties, noting that "further escalation of the confrontation threatens the territorial integrity of the state."

    “In this context, the text of the appeal on behalf of the personnel of the Ministry of Defense’s apparatus to the President of Ukraine - the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces Viktor Yanukovych was discussed,” the department added.
    Recall that Yanukovych himself is currently being treated in a hospital.

    http://warfiles.ru/show-47402-ukrainskaya-armiya-prizvala-viktora-yanukovicha-sr

    ochno-prinyat-mery-dlya-stabilizacii-situacii-v-strane.html
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    1. Arhj
      Arhj 1 February 2014 11: 17
      +6
      To his north head turn laziness. Old Man did something like that. The West shouted and calmed down, announced the arrest of the Old Man's accounts. But Lukashenko feels very well. Well, he does not have accounts in American banks, and Switzerland does not issue its depositors. wink
  17. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 1 February 2014 10: 28
    +12
    Let's dig a little deeper. Kerensky's weak-willed government in 1917 handed over power to a handful of "Bolsheviks." And in 1991 the rag talker surrendered the Soviet Union. At the same time, remember the Chinese square. 3 thousand "oppositionists" were not just shot with machine guns, but then they drove over the corpses with tanks. Where is the USSR now, and where is China now! Draw your own conclusions, dear forum users.
  18. DMB-78
    DMB-78 1 February 2014 10: 30
    0
    Quote: ed65b
    invite three cocks to a meeting and arrest. Deny the party freedom, fatherland, blow. and all pro-fascist associations. Lead troops to disperse why the Maidan, to arrest for a coup d'etat of all bureaucrats in the west and all sorts of people are happy. To send in the ass ambassadors of all Western countries. And disperse the NGOs.

    and the West will have nothing to answer. they do not dare to introduce troops, and they will not scare anyone with sanctions. Ukraine will always help. there are still countries of the former USSR that Americans do not digest
  19. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 1 February 2014 10: 56
    0
    Again it dawned on me)))) - Ukraine is a unique public law entity, not an island (the USSR deployed missiles IN Cuba), the only state where events take place IN it!
    Quote: Salamander
    “The meeting participants expressed concern about the recent situation. According to them, the events taking place in Ukraine cannot but bother people, because they concern the future of the country and each of its citizens, ”the press service said.


    Regarding the article: the author draws hasty conclusions, wait and see, the logic of Yanukovych, as well as the Maidan, regarding the amnesty after the liberation of the buildings is obvious))) - the buildings require an assault (the word siege was not always successful from here), but amnesty only by imputed Art. Criminal Code of Ukraine, i.e. close and impute other articles))), because they will remain in Ukraine - a matter of operational-search activity))) and the investigation, honed by YEARS. From here, apparently, the opposition is growing UNACCEPTABLE!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 February 2014 14: 23
      +4
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      Ukraine is a unique public law entity, not being an island (the USSR deployed missiles in Cuba), the only state where events take place in it!

      Because she and Ukraine, because the outskirts are the borders of the former Russian Empire. And how to say it right: ON the border, or on the border? That's right, everyone speaks ON the border, therefore, in the case of Ukraine: you need to speak in Ukraine! But seriously, look at Gogol, he said: in Ukraine.
  20. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 February 2014 11: 01
    +3
    The war on our borders is inevitable because the overseas and NATO strategists chose the path of "cynical restraint" of Russia by creating an atmosphere of chaos on its borders. An attempt to create chaos in Russia itself, on Bolotnaya failed miserably. So they circle around our country like hawks, looking for where else to create the meanness. Here nadybali Kiev. With the help of the local Nazis they brewed a stinky porridge confrontation. Ashton has already registered as the capital of Ukraine. The European Union is vigorously "pushing" Kiev towards "democracy", that is, towards the abyss. And the reason is the same: spoil Russia as much as possible.
    1. kush62
      kush62 1 February 2014 16: 35
      +1
      Ashton has already registered as the capital of Ukraine. The European Union is vigorously "pushing" Kiev towards "democracy", that is, towards the abyss. And there is only one reason: to screw up Russia as much as possible.

      European policy directed against Russia "has no future." This was stated by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, speaking from the rostrum of the 50th Munich Security Conference.

      Some finally remembered the admonition of Comrade Bismarck.
  21. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 1 February 2014 11: 12
    +11
    in one, I do not agree with Dima Lekuh. Navalny is not a nationalist, but a man absolutely unprincipled. he wants to live beautifully, eat tasty food and fucking..do not do it. a typical parasite helminth from the large intestine.
  22. shelva
    shelva 1 February 2014 11: 35
    +2
    At the time of the Olympic Games, the ancient Greeks stopped all wars. So even then the Olympics had a political connotation. What can we say about the role of sport in the modern world - solid politics and sweepstakes. Not for the sake of improving the nation, but for the sake of political ambitions, looking back to the West, we can lose Crimea. And they use it and direct ships to the east of the Black Sea.
  23. Ustian
    Ustian 1 February 2014 11: 37
    0
    Germany 1990 of the year = Ukraine 2014 of the year with the opposite sign !!! No matter how I would not like the reverse. request
  24. Ustian
    Ustian 1 February 2014 11: 46
    +2
    Ukrainian police may allow to use Russian-made "Shmel" and "Shmel-M" rocket throwers to protect public order. According to the local media, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Vitaliy Zakharchenko made a corresponding initiative.

    Jet flamethrowers are included in the list of special equipment that the police can use, along with hand grenades.

    Meanwhile, the draft resolution of the Ukrainian government, to which ZN.UA refers, is not available on the government portal.

    The explanatory note, according to the publication, says that the adoption of the document will "properly ensure the implementation of tasks for the protection of public order, public safety and the fight against crime." The draft resolution does not require public discussion, the note says.

    The Russian-made disposable jet flamethrower "Shmel" and the lightweight "Shmel-M" are designed to destroy fortified structures, disable cars and light armored vehicles. Their sighting range is up to 800 meters, the flight range of the capsule is up to 1700 meters. "Bumblebee" has been adopted by the Russian ground forces and special forces.
    1. alone
      alone 1 February 2014 13: 05
      +3
      Quote: Ustian
      The Ukrainian militia may be allowed to use Russian-made "Shmel" and "Shmel-M" rocket-throwers to protect public order.

      belay At such a pace, they will soon be given permission to use the MLRS Smerch.
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 50
        +2
        Quote: lonely
        At such a pace, they will soon be given permission to use the MLRS Smerch.

        and carpet bombing laughing
    2. housekeeper
      housekeeper 1 February 2014 21: 37
      +1
      To paraphrase the classic, we can say: "Do not read Ukrainian newspapers at dinner" laughing
      The Ministry of Internal Affairs has denied information that law enforcement officers allegedly plan to use flamethrowers to protect public order. The Ministry of Internal Affairs noted that the Dzhmil and Dzhmil-M special equipment specified in the draft new list are cartridges with tear gas grenades. In particular, special equipment "Jmіl" is used for mass events, "Jmіl-M" - for special operations.

      http://polemika.com.ua/news-137494.html

      Although the idea is very very interesting smile
  25. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 1 February 2014 11: 47
    +1
    <<< Ukraine, especially in the light of recent events - I really do not want to "croak", but it is no longer a hunt to lie to oneself - it seems that it is slipping into the "Yugoslav version"
    It looks like it really is! If in recent years Russia has invested enormous funds and efforts to arrange the Olympics - a holiday of sports in Sochi for the world community, our "partners" in the reset from NATO have been preparing to use this event all this time, and this is a very convenient cover to strike too independent, uncompromising, refusing to obey Russia! Like during the Beijing Olympics, when they organized Georgia's aggression against South Ossetia, they prepared a grandiose hostile action against Russia for the Sochi Olympics, organizing riots and chaos in Ukraine with the intention of using force, right up to unleashing a civil war, to establish an openly hostile Russian power! So the moment of truth is coming and grandiose world events and, unfortunately, NOT ONLY sporting events await us! All that remains is to hope for the decisiveness and, at the same time, the wisdom of the Russian leadership, which sees all this and will not allow this globalist game-crazed trash to celebrate victory in Ukraine!
  26. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 1 February 2014 11: 59
    +3
    I am afraid colleagues that the "Banderlog" and their owners will try to become active just during the Olympics. In Ukraine, the army must take control of everything if they do not want the collapse of the country. For the "trinity" and their followers, provide any options for localization, or even as the elders said : "No idiots, no problems."
    1. coserg 2012
      coserg 2012 1 February 2014 20: 17
      +1
      The army needed to pull everyone apart, now the train has left, the weapons will be taken away and there will be a massacre. Now only with fists and sticks can the civilian population organize these Maidan riders.
      1. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 1 February 2014 20: 46
        +1
        The army needed to pull everyone apart, now the train has left, the weapons will be taken away and there will be a massacre. Now only with fists and sticks can the civilian population organize these Maidan riders.
        Firstly, it is not the duty of the army to breed, and secondly, the army, as there is no current.
        1. coserg 2012
          coserg 2012 2 February 2014 10: 22
          0
          In natural disasters, the army should not provide assistance, but they do. And this is not a disaster, this is an epidemic.
  27. tank64rus
    tank64rus 1 February 2014 12: 12
    0
    Next in line is Russia. It is interesting how the advanced "fighters for the purity and independence" of the Ukrainian race directly obey the directives of Obama-African American and Wall Street where representatives of the Jewish nation rule.
  28. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 1 February 2014 12: 34
    +1
    Right view of the author, I liked it!
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  31. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 1 February 2014 13: 12
    +7
    "And think, tomorrow Putin will declare war on Poland. Suddenly and from scratch ...
    And he won’t even announce, but Lavrov will let it slip, or rather, he will hint, no, he will abstractly recall with a cup of Sunday’s interview to the wet channel that Vladimir Vladimirovich was staring at the World map south of the Kaliningrad region ...

    Brzezinski will choke on matzo and head to Bonner for a direct flight, the first to board.

    Together with him, Pan Kaczynski, Jose Manuel, someone from the Rothschilds and shaved bald head Ban Ki-moon will be in the next seats. Volodya Varfolomeyev will check the tightness of the doors and give a signal to depart, asking for forgiveness and at the same time wiping behind high-ranking passengers.

    The Hungarian President will send a postcard with the words "Welcome, otherwise we are tired of waiting!" by hand, by fax, soap, skype, vatsap, sms, and simply hang a huge banner face up on the central square - so that it could be seen from a height of 20 kilometers. And a red star just in case ...

    McCain will shred his clothes and burn another aircraft carrier in fear. The Moscow regional district as part of Bolotnaya will dissolve in different directions, mainly to Turkey on last minute deals, prepared in two years specifically for such a scenario, led by Orkady Babchenko. # Gennady with the words "Everything," will drink the rest of his liver and see the lights of the board leaving in the tunnel with Bzezhinsky and company. Perhaps with Olga "" Romanova.

    Spout, Nemtsov, Navalny and some Varlamov’s trailer with Alburov will sign off on Goa with indignation. The US embassy will open a secret portal for teleportation of Lyudmili Alekseeva, Posner and several other people in very expensive cars with thieves' numbers.

    The State Duma will go on vacation for the duration of the emergency - in front of an empty room Zhirinovsky will require a nuclear case with access to the corresponding LDPR for the percentage of start-up mines. They will understand him, but they will refuse the buttons.

    Ksenia Larina, Irina Petrovskaya, Yulia Lotynina and Zhenechka Albats will break their voice about the harsh words of TRUTH ABOUT THE WAR, choke on bile and proudly release the last bubbles in the live broadcast. Half of the regular guests of Echo of Moscow and Rain, led by Minkin, Shenderovich, Svanidze and Gozman, will be citizens of Israel. The other half will show passports of citizens of the United States, Germany and France. In the same place, 99% of land owners for low-rise buildings ranging from 0.5 ha in the suburbs of Moscow will emerge.

    In Moscow and St. Petersburg, they will restore order and cleanliness in the streets and, just in case, they will drag away all incorrectly parked cars. Officials all over the country will change into simple and will suddenly be amiable, nimble and efficient. Moscow Region will break some kind of wild firewood with the most severe appearance, but we all understand ...

    Obama will send a disingenuous note of protest, then call back, ask for forgiveness and not start until the next election. The NATO chief of staff, as he is there, will order a retreat and wait for reinforcements. The Baltics will go under the water for half a meter, covered with goosebumps and ice. Northern Europe will declare martial law, surrender, threat to LGBT communities, jihad, a crusade to Rome and a military call for someone at the same time. Just in case, they will release Breivik, but then they will return, because the main thing is the decision of an honest court!

    France in the person of Hollande will pretend that she is still sleeping and that she is not at home. A foreign legion in Morocco will eat two more tons of tangerines and pick up a rare variety of gonorrhea.

    England will get the good old pipe, British intelligence will hold a lecture on the results of the war with the USSR in Afghanistan, Afghans and Pakistanis in the armed forces of the Crown will be happy. It’s a pity they will only be given shovels anyway - digging up Westminster from under the snow.

    Out of nonexistence a subtle image of Yugoslavia will arise ...
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 1 February 2014 13: 14
      +6
      Lukashenko will check the combat readiness of the personnel, shoot a couple of dozen rear rats and give such an interview to the German "Der Spiegel" that Merkel will return to her menstrual cycle and national pride.

      Ukraine will flare up for several seconds in news, articles and blogs of the supernova, then it will dissolve and disappear, leaving a small, burned out, heavy core of nationalists in the west. During this time, the Rada recognizes the Ukrainian as a vulgar dialect of Russian and will bring to the freshly painted, brilliant guns and missile launchers, elegant ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation a rag.

      Georgia will be asked to join the Russian Federation. Suddenly, Japan will hear the sounds of hara-kiri and a request for humanitarian assistance.

      Russia at the distance of the first 10 time zones will do what it always did. The rest of the country will call parents and have a hearty dinner, giggling in LiveJournal and on Twitter.

      The main thing is that the world will never be the same ... "
      taken
      http://urb-a.livejournal.com/5636621.html#comments

      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 23
        +1
        Quote: Novel 1977
        The main thing is that the world will never be the same ... "

        sorry time is not indicated, I'm afraid to oversleep at work such an event laughing
      2. Slavapom
        Slavapom 1 February 2014 14: 40
        +4
        As I read from one of our writers: "The United States has undergone an asteroid fall, an attack by giant radioactive iguanas and even a change of poles, but is really afraid only of red stars on military equipment."
      3. soaring
        soaring 1 February 2014 15: 21
        +2
        Super!!!!!!!!!!! laughing I put +++++++++++++++
      4. Reks
        Reks 1 February 2014 23: 59
        +1
        [quote = Roman 1977] Lukashenko will check the combat readiness of the personnel, shoot a couple of dozen rear rats and give such an interview to the German "Der Spiegel" that Merkel will return to her menstrual cycle and national pride.
        laughing laughing laughing laughing Class !!!!!!!!!!! ++++++++++
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    3. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Posner and a few more people

      Well, about Posner, maybe in vain, he dropped the Klitschko very beautifully below the baseboard laughing otherwise it’s hard to come up with a better scenario laughing
  32. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 1 February 2014 13: 23
    +4
    I’m getting seriously scared, the war is already knocking on our door. Every sane person from the latest events in the world is able to build a logical chain that leads precisely to war. A war as in 1914 and in 1941 is inevitable, we can no longer stop it, but so far there is an opportunity to postpone it. So far, our hands are tied with the Olympiad, but we must use it for our propaganda purposes, for this our athletes should try to the maximum and God help them! My opinion is that in the very near future we will become witnesses to grandiose events of world significance, the enemy has already clearly decided. The world is pregnant with war, and this pregnancy will not resolve itself.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 53
      0
      Quote: Old Warrant Officer
      we must use for our propaganda purposes

      the first step has been taken. began to cover the anti-Russian channel rain
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 February 2014 14: 30
      +3
      Quote: Old Warrant Officer
      The world is pregnant with war, and this pregnancy will not resolve itself.

      So you need to apply a "cesarean section", and Caesar, I think, will be found. winked
  33. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 1 February 2014 13: 35
    0
    The most interesting thing is that no one really wants to "save this country", she has already got everyone sick.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 54
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      I don’t feel like it, she already got everyone nauseous

      but you must...
  34. dropout
    dropout 1 February 2014 13: 39
    +4
    WHAT IS UKRAINE AT ALL? Who can answer this question?

    Are Ukraine happy people living in joy, satiety and prosperity? No! These are tens of millions of unfortunate people who find themselves in deep poverty without basic conditions for a full life.

    Is Ukraine a developed economy? No! These are economic ruins.

    Is Ukraine an effective state? No! These are the remains of the extremely degraded Soviet system of government.

    Is Ukraine a strong state on the world stage? No! This is a territory with which even the nearest neighbors do not reckon.

    Is Ukraine a harmonious society? No! It is a society split in a continuous political conflict, unconnected by mental, cultural, linguistic and historical criteria.

    Is Ukraine a high culture? No! These are a dozen of unknown nationally conscious writers of a regional scale, included in the set with the "prophet of the Ukrainian nation" Taras Shevchenko, Tripillian pots and rural embroidered shirts.

    So what then is Ukraine?

    The concept of "ukraina" (border area where Cossack defensive units were stationed) is a semantic analogue of the concept of "limitrophe". The etymology of this word goes back to the late Latin "limitrophus" - "bordering on", literally, providing accommodation for border troops. That is, when we say "Ukraine", we directly mean "Limitrof", when we say "Limitrof", we mean "Ukraine".

    In its original essence, modern Ukraine, like its Cossack prototype of Ukraine, is a territory located between the West and the Russian World. Modern Ukraine is a no-man's, neutral, dividing territory, where only dashing gangsters feel good and where there is a continuous clash of two civilizational massifs. Ukraine is a "dead zone" where civilians who are looking for everyday well-being are not recommended to live due to the intolerable living conditions.

    And, perhaps, "Ukraina" is something that all of us, together, will have to overcome, if not for ourselves, then for the future of our children.

    Andrey Vajra,

    specially for alternatio.org
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 13: 57
      +1
      Quote: dropout
      Ukraine is a "dead zone" where civilians who are looking for everyday well-being are not recommended to live due to the intolerable living conditions.

      And, perhaps, "Ukraina" is something that all of us, together, will have to overcome, if not for ourselves, then for the future of our children.

      you can’t say better ... sad
    2. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 1 February 2014 19: 45
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      it is insulting to admit, but you're right Vladimir (half-educated)
  35. Galan
    Galan 1 February 2014 14: 51
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    From US National Security Council Directive 20/1 of August 18, 1948
    from the collection
    Thomas H. Etzold and John Lewis Gaddis, eds.,
    Containment: Documents on American Policy and Strategy,
    1945-1950
    NSC 20 / 1 (pages 173-203)
    "... The economy of Ukraine is inextricably intertwined with the economy of Russia into a single whole. There has never been any economic division since the territory was recaptured from the nomadic Tatars and began to be mastered by a sedentary population. An attempt to tear it away from the Russian economy and form something independent would be as artificial and destructive as the attempt to separate the Grain Belt, including the Great Lakes, from the United States economy.
    Moreover, the people who speak the Ukrainian dialect, like the people who speak the Belarusian dialect, are split along the lines that in Eastern Europe have always been a true sign of nationality: namely, religion. If any real border can be drawn across Ukraine, then the border between areas traditionally gravitating towards the Eastern Church and areas gravitating towards the Roman Church would be logical. "
  36. Galan
    Galan 1 February 2014 14: 53
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    "... Finally, we cannot remain indifferent to the feelings of the Great Russians themselves. They were the strongest national element of the Russian Empire, now they are in the Soviet Union. They will remain the strongest national element in this space, whatever their status. Long-term US policy. should be based on their recognition and their cooperation. Ukrainian territory is as much part of their national heritage as the Midwest is part of ours, and they are aware of this fact. The decision to try to completely separate Ukraine from the rest of Russia is associated with incurring disapproval and resistance on its part and, as the analysis shows, can only be supported by force. " In the same place.
  37. Galan
    Galan 1 February 2014 14: 57
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    "... There is a real possibility that the Great Russians can be persuaded to come to terms with the return of independence to the Baltic states. They put up with the freedom of these territories from Russia for a long period in the past, and they recognize, if not reason, then subconsciously, that these peoples are capable to independence. In relation to the Ukrainians, the situation is different. They are too close to the Russians to be able to successfully organize themselves into something completely different. Better or worse, they will build their destiny in the form of some kind of special connection with the Great Russian people. " In the same place.
    The debilitation of European politicians is obvious. What the US NSS analysts understood fifty years ago is incomprehensible to current European officials.
  38. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 1 February 2014 15: 32
    +2
    I do not agree with the author of the article! Ukraine has the most important thing - RUSSIA!
    Zhirik, of course, can say anything on the air, but there is a single Orthodox people, spread out
    ... from the Finnish cold cliffs to the fiery Calchis,
    From the shocked, he crept up to the walls of motionless China ...
    (AS Pushkin, "slanderers of Russia")
    But God forbid to wake this people, stir up the lair of a sleeping bear.
    Pushkin ends this poem with these words:
    ... So send to us vitia, your embittered sons,
    There is a place for them in the fields of Russia, among the coffins that are alien to them.
  39. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 1 February 2014 19: 23
    +2
    To be honest, no offense to the brothers Ukrainians, the separation of Ukraine is needed as a surgical operation to remove inflamed appendicitis. What I think is appendicitis, you probably guessed. If only without a lot of blood. Southeast Ukraine and Russia can give a lot to each other. Who knows, by joint efforts we can bring the Black Sea Fleet to the necessary condition (well, this would be so that the Turks would have no bad fantasies in their heads either in the present or in the future).
    Although, to be honest, I agree with the opinion of commentators on the inevitability of war. My wish for a little blood is a promise of hope and no more. If you look at things soberly, you can see that the war is on the threshold. We (Russia) at one time entered World War I because of the Serbs, but what about Ukraine and Ukrainians for us?
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  41. bomg.77
    bomg.77 1 February 2014 21: 03
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    Who cares, this is a photo of the city meeting in the city of Rivne !!! Democracy in all its glory
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 21: 34
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      Quote: bomg.77
      Democracy in all its glory

      Maidan democracy
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 1 February 2014 21: 46
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        Quote: DMB-78
        Maidan democracy
        It is a Maidan democracy with a fascist instinct. This is how they say "Titushka", but most likely just disagreeing with them ((
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 1 February 2014 21: 54
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          Quote: bomg.77
          Democracy Maidan she with a fascist gut

          only the west does not understand that this is going to them
  42. Nitrogamer
    Nitrogamer 1 February 2014 21: 39
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    While the Russian soldier
    There are bullets, matches, moonshine
    Suck the hell out of NATO sodata
    Trembling with fear. Pentagon.

    A soldier thumped, a tear rolled
    The trophy saxophone wheezed.
    And on his chest glowed ....
    Medal, taken by Washington!

    Then the soldier popped into Las Vegas,
    I lost the medal in roulette,
    The tear still rolled
    The soldier still thumped.

    Let's give everyone medals -
    For Washington - who was "taken" ...
    And we’ll listen to the saxophone,
    And drink Russian moonshine.

    Then we'll drive to Beijing
    The soldier will not drink alone.
    You will drink with him, and you and I -
    We are all sons of Russia. ©
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  44. siberalt
    siberalt 1 February 2014 22: 59
    +1
    Good article. Full respect to the author!
  45. siberalt
    siberalt 1 February 2014 22: 59
    +1
    Good article. Full respect to the author!
  46. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 1 February 2014 23: 08
    0
    Instead of the army, it is generally not clear what.

    What can a person write like this:
  47. navodchik
    navodchik 1 February 2014 23: 38
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    Don't drift dear Author. There is nothing with Ukraine that has already happened in the past and never will. I like the "leisurely" version of events better. While the "Banderlog" rush into the attack, we must understand that Russia and Ukraine are one and the same, hence the conclusion that time is working for us, Russians. As the hero of the film said "Everything is transient, but music is eternal." We must hold out, although everyone criticizes Yanukovych, but this is the "analogue" of Putin in Ukraine, whether we want it or not. The guys will LIVE.
  48. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 February 2014 00: 27
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    What do we have in fact now. Supreme power merged. Either on the run, or soon. It is clear that after leaving for sick leave, Yanukovych is no longer even perceived as a fictitious president. Russia allocates tranches not in one piece, but in portions. And after each piece he watches how Ukraine reacts to it. After Azarov’s statement on the activation of EU accession processes, it goes without saying that the next tranches will require a slightly different rhetoric from the current capable (which I’m talking about ...) leadership. And yes, we are waiting for the provocations of February 06-07, we are waiting for provocations throughout the Olympics. And we are waiting for an unambiguous reaction of the Russian Federation after the Olympics. We are waiting in short ...
  49. Zeus
    Zeus 2 February 2014 00: 45
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    Color revolutions are possible only if the power is dominated by corrupt elements and wimps. If there are nationally oriented people in power, then they will crush any color revolution. In Ukraine, there is currently no centralized authority. The oligarchs rule everything. This is almost an exact copy of feudal France before centralized power appeared in it. An exception is only in the technical structure. Otherwise, everything is the same.
  50. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 2 February 2014 01: 42
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    Quote: navodchik
    that Russia and Ukraine are one and the same


    We have in common with the fraternal people - Ukrainians, with the exception of Bandera rot.
    But with the country of Ukraine, I don’t want to have anything in common. What could be a country whose heroes are:



    Roman Shukhevych the head of the OUN (b) and the commander in chief of the UPA from May 1943 until his death in 1950. In 1941-1942, he served in the armed units of the Third Reich. October 12, 2007 By decree of the President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko, Roman Shukhevych was posthumously awarded the honorary title “Hero of Ukraine”