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Russia left 50 years. Prophecy, prognosis or diagnosis?

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Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov, speaking to senators, made a shocking statement


Russia left 50 years. Prophecy, prognosis or diagnosis?

The topic of “family values” in contemporary political rhetoric is almost cult. Nowadays no star of politics or show business can speak about them. True, the discourse of family values ​​in Russia is peculiar, if we speak in the context of the dominant religion.

After all, how often does it work? In the temples we pray, we set candles, and then we walk, and then from the "fattened up", which was not useful, is killed in the mother's womb. The state seems to be in words and against such “family planning”, but in practice it is not that it supports, but also does not particularly hinder.

With all current restrictions, advertising the clinic in the newspaper, where, among other things, the point “Abortions” is registered, is much easier than advertising cigarettes or alcohol. Abortion is somehow not perceived at the top as a danger ... Is it any wonder, by the way, that with such an abundance of medical advertising, fitness and other things, the nation for some reason does not want to be healthy and strong?

“In terms of disease, even among schoolchildren, and in terms of extinction speed, we have half a century left to exist both as a people and as a state,” the head of the Patriarchal Commission on Family, Protection of Motherhood and Childhood said during his speech to the Federation Council Dmitry Smirnov.

Terrible prediction, is not it? It is, of course, very easy to write off on Fr. Dmitry to metaphors. As one can probably call some exaggeration the following thesis of the priest: “We do not love and do not want children. Translated into Russian, this means that we do not want Russia, its continuation; we want our culture to die, to have mosques instead of our churches. ”

Of course, this is not about everyone, but including some of those who have gathered a lot in the hall to listen to what the famous shepherd will do for demography. Their names, surnames, titles still announce история, but for now it is still possible to oppose them somewhat down, waving numbers and graphs. The birth rate is on the rise, maternity capital is growing, the state loves, appreciates and does not forget ...

And this love and care, of course, is very much felt in regions where local authorities continue to judge in a rather peculiar way about the needs of mothers of many children, offering those who take ridiculous handouts for the very support that they should be grateful for. This is easier than, for example, to allocate land and give non-burdensome (ideally - generally interest-free) loans for housing and education. Since the market with the 90-ies and did not really get accustomed to be more humane to those with whom you want to "raise Russia."

Abstracts about. Dmitry, in an interview with the KM.RU columnist, was fully supported by the head of the Orthodox Life Education Center, Archpriest Maxim Obukhov:

- There are, of course, some modest grounds for optimism, but this is not about "increasing the birth rate." In general, demographic processes are very inert, they stretch over decades. Those of our fellow citizens who are now in reproductive age were born in the 80-ies, when there was a short peak in the birth rate. And what will happen next? Demographic processes are in principle very difficult to manage. It is not enough just to open a certain financial tap and sit, rubbing your hands, in anticipation of the rise of indicators.

This is not the creation of infrastructure, not construction, not breeding piglets. Decisions on demographics should be of a strategic nature, not momentary. On the other hand, there have been certain changes in public opinion: the influence of the Russian Orthodox Church in our society is very serious. The decrease in the number of abortions, which is observed, in many respects I link it with this factor. But to say at the same time that the problem is solved, of course, is impossible. The threat remains, and for this part of about. Dmitry can not argue.

- But still, did not the distinguished archpriest retain too much paint? Is it true that with such a policy of Russia only half a century has been measured?

- Any prediction is relative, and in his speech about. Dmitry warned about the danger that awaits Russia. But this was not a prophecy: it is precisely a warning, a warning, a call to think about the scale of the problem. Of course, there are countries in the world that have large territories and are sparsely populated. For example, Canada, where 30 millions of people live somewhere, Mongolia, Kazakhstan ... But still, it will be more difficult for Russia to overcome the consequences of such a state of affairs - for a number of reasons that geopolitical experts will tell you better. But we already feel the demographic pressure. Therefore, we still have a lot to do to strengthen the demographic situation ... but it is not done.

Anxious about It is difficult for Dmitry to disagree also because, as it is easy to see, the state, for example, issues subsidies for in vitro fertilization programs. Billions of rubles are directed, in fact, to birth control, to ensure artificial childlessness. At the same time, measures to support large families, especially in economically weak regions, are clearly insufficient to provide them with normal living conditions and for the development of children. And this must be talked about tirelessly, without embarrassment: the danger is too serious, which Fr. warned about in his speech to the Federation Council. Dmitry Smirnov.
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  1. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 31 January 2014 15: 22
    +18
    Without FAITH, God of the Russian people will not be !!!
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 31 January 2014 15: 32
      +9
      And faith in God will be, and faith in your people and in yourself in particular. Otherwise, you should not rock the boat. This has saved the Russian people in all ages, the main thing is not to create idols for ourselves - we ourselves are power!
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 31 January 2014 15: 43
        +27
        so, men, it’s good to write ...... went for wives !!! love
        1. GREAT RUSSIA
          GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 15: 57
          +9
          Quote: strannik595
          so, men, it’s good to write ...... went for wives !!! love

          For starters, I would find a girl. repeat
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 31 January 2014 16: 01
            +4
            I have the same nonsense - and I would be glad, but not
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 16: 19
            +11
            Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
            I would first find a girl

            At the computer you are unlikely to find her. laughing
          3. andrei332809
            andrei332809 31 January 2014 16: 20
            +6
            Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
            For starters, I would find a girl.

            so you have to walk. Well, there are skis, skates, sledges. summer beach, football, horizontal bar. and at the computer, excuse me, you will virtually multiply, in a napkin, with request
            1. GREAT RUSSIA
              GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 16: 47
              +5
              Quote: andrei332809
              Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
              For starters, I would find a girl.

              so you have to walk. Well, there are skis, skates, sledges. summer beach, football, horizontal bar. and at the computer, excuse me, you will virtually multiply, in a napkin, with request

              I would be happy to take a walk, but at -20 degrees, how can I take a walk? I play football in spring, summer and autumn. I walk from morning to night in summer. Regarding virtual reproduction, I’m not a worried person, I’m interested in things much more useful and important in life. And this process is useful only when I get married, but for now I need to.
              1. dmitrij.blyuz
                dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 16: 55
                +3
                Too drowned, by. But.-48. Something I do not want already !!! wassat
                1. GREAT RUSSIA
                  GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 17: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
                  Too drowned, by. But.-48. Something I do not want already !!! wassat

                  at my place, as you go out onto the corridor, it’s already winter, wassat not only in the yard, but at home. fellow
                  1. dmitrij.blyuz
                    dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 17: 38
                    +2
                    It’s easier with us. It’s warm in the hallways. Housing offices work. A closed city. It saves.
                  2. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 31 January 2014 22: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
                    not only in the yard, but at home.

                    After the second complaint to the zhek and them without action, the threat of a complaint to the prosecutor's office miraculously introduced an unprecedented enthusiasm and interest in the problem into the employees of the public services, when they themselves had already started running around the apartments and the problem had been solved literally in 2 days))
              2. andrei332809
                andrei332809 31 January 2014 21: 28
                +5
                [quote = GREAT RUSSIA] but at -20 degrees, how can you take a walk? [/ quote
                NOTHING, NOTHING. we have a minus thirty, and then have fun. however, for two days the north breeze was, yeah. and so, remember your childhood ------- hooray! we don’t go to school. minus 30. and everything on the street, again sledges, skis, hockey ...
            2. AVV
              AVV 31 January 2014 21: 01
              +1
              Quote: andrei332809
              Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
              For starters, I would find a girl.

              so you have to walk. Well, there are skis, skates, sledges. summer beach, football, horizontal bar. and at the computer, excuse me, you will virtually multiply, in a napkin, with request

              Or like Kirkorov and Galkin, relatives, and children on the stream, although in this way !!!
              1. andrei332809
                andrei332809 31 January 2014 21: 29
                +2
                Quote: AVV
                Or like Kirkorov with Galkin,

                at what for propaganda? !!! angry
        2. ty60
          ty60 31 January 2014 16: 17
          +1
          Age does not allow. Wife.
        3. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 31 January 2014 16: 27
          +7
          All over Russia, turn off the lights at 2 o’clock in the evening (in dormitory houses) ..))) like saving electricity .. (after 9 months, I think the result will be visual)
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 31 January 2014 16: 52
            +3
            knowing this schedule, half of the men will thump in the garage ... wassat
            1. mch1950
              mch1950 31 January 2014 17: 17
              +2
              And what should I do, I have a garage under the house?
              1. 120352
                120352 31 January 2014 22: 01
                -1
                Must be exchanged!
            2. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov 31 January 2014 18: 48
              +3
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              knowing this schedule, half of the men will thump in the garage ... wassat

              And without a schedule, and in the winter ..))) wassat Right now, frosts all over Russia turn off the lights and increase the temperature in boiler rooms due to savings .. it’s hot and boring to start undressing (and also turn off the Internet connection except for emergency ones ..) laughing ))) And the peasants still need to pay "muzhik's capital" for everyone, even the illegitimate (but recognized))), just so that there are Russian-speakers (Russians are at heart) .. The idea is funny and yet I think it's not bad .. laughing
          2. alone
            alone 31 January 2014 19: 39
            +3
            Quote: MIKHAN
            All over Russia, turn off the lights at 2 o’clock in the evening (in dormitory houses) ..))) like saving electricity .. (after 9 months, I think the result will be visual)

            laughing Rather, on the first day, the emergency rooms will be overwhelmed by the victims.
            Women with frying pans will drive their husbands outside so that they figure out why there is no light))) laughing
            But seriously, Vitaly, this is not a way out of the situation. And women are ready and willing to give birth to children, or what? After all, give birth to them, not to the peasants)) this must be coordinated
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        5. Ermak
          Ermak 31 January 2014 19: 17
          +15
          Guys, and my 25th son was born !!! )
          1. 120352
            120352 31 January 2014 22: 03
            +1
            Well done! Congratulations from the bottom of my heart!
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 31 January 2014 16: 04
        +2
        Quote: zart_arn
        we ourselves are power!

        If we are united by one idea.
        Title of the article: "Russia has 50 years left. Prophecy, prognosis or diagnosis?"
        Well, the prophet is clearly not attracted to anyone. Anyone can make a forecast. They all know how to come true. There is a problem, it is complex, that is, there are not one reasons. And you need to solve this problem in a complex way. There are attempts, but not enough. You need a program, but not separate attempts.
        The program should reflect everything, and material assistance, and housing issues, educational issues.
        Here, it depends not only on people, but also on state policy in this matter.
        I can voice my forecast: in 50 years we will have 250 million people. Of these, 200 million Russians, that is 80% of the country's population.
        I am now 49, I’ll survive without any problems until this time, Smirnov is unlikely, but I would very much like to compare who turns out to be right.
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 31 January 2014 17: 50
          +3
          Quote: baltika-18
          I can voice my forecast: in 50 years we will be 250 million people.

          Hm! Very interesting! And no one wants to ask us (women): Are you, DEAR AND FAVORITE, ready to try for the good of the Russian state? Is everything okay, dear ones? Maybe something needs help?
          Also me, figures, male taptuns ...
          1. S-200
            S-200 31 January 2014 18: 02
            +2
            Any divine creature of God multiplies in favorable conditions for it ...
            And only a person, in all other cases, ALSO ... wink
            However, it is not always willingly "in the amount" necessary for the needs of the state. request
            WHAT do you need - beloved women from us men (states) for the birth of full-fledged offspring ?!
            ANSWER - has long been known ...
            and it's NOT ABORTION!
            and in QUALITY ... as reproducible offspring, as well as his upbringing, training, and the standard of living of the child. Yes, and parents too!
            1. WASABI
              WASABI 31 January 2014 18: 16
              +1
              Quote: S-200
              WHAT do you need - beloved women from us men (states) for the birth of full-fledged offspring ?! ANSWER - has long been known ...

              Ohhh! Do you know the answer? And what is he like?
            2. Sergey XXX
              Sergey XXX 31 January 2014 19: 02
              +2
              Quote: S-200
              S-200 (3) Today, 18:02 PM ↑ New
              Any divine divine breeds under favorable conditions for him ..


              Quite the contrary - in a critical situation, a demographic surge.
              In general, in all previous times in the human race, a large number of children were due to very pragmatic motivation. The older generation could still catch the expression referring to growing boys: "the breadwinner is growing." I think that the demographic situation will change significantly for the better if the retirement income depends on the number of children brought to work for a long life. Yes, and justice requires this - some family raised 6-10 children, infringing upon themselves in everything, and these children then support by means of deductions from pensioners who did not bother to raise even one child. Somehow in this I do not see social justice, only equalization.
          2. 120352
            120352 31 January 2014 22: 06
            0
            The state and the Fatherland are different concepts. If you have questions, give birth to the Fatherland so that it is. I am no longer a young man, but I tried my best in due time. Now 13 grandchildren.
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    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 31 January 2014 17: 03
      +4
      I am an infidel, an atheist, an atheist, a blasphemer ... whatever you name it! but this did not make me a "bad guy", at any time, despite my fifty dollars, I am ready "for the freedom and independence of our Motherland." Trust in God, but do not blame yourself! very long ago and rightly said ... hi
    3. crbvbyjr
      crbvbyjr 31 January 2014 21: 18
      0
      CAMRAD DON'T MAY BE BULLY ... AND NORTHERN LIGHT.
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 1 February 2014 04: 47
      +1
      Quote: slavik_gross
      Without FAITH, God of the Russian people will not be !!!

      "Trust in God, but don't do it yourself" - folk wisdom.
  2. brainkiller
    brainkiller 31 January 2014 15: 24
    +9
    In the USSR there was a tax on childlessness, it worked.
    But before the tax, conditions, infrastructure, kindergartens, schools, hospitals are needed, and these are all professions that have been ignored for quite some time.
    1. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 31 January 2014 15: 28
      +1
      Quote: brainkiller
      But before the tax, conditions, infrastructure, kindergartens, schools, hospitals are needed, and these are all professions that have been ignored for quite some time.

      First of all, it is NECESSARY TO CHANGE OUR POWER - this comprador colonial oligarchic POWER
      1. RN40Y45
        RN40Y45 31 January 2014 15: 36
        +1
        yeah! and share everything!
        been already, more than 70 years old, not enough.
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        2. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 31 January 2014 16: 37
          +2
          RN40Y45
          What do you have against?
          One snot on the pursuit, but already deeply know what has been done in 70 years, or so.
          Correctly called the generation is the 45th lost generation, out of 100-10t they understand what they lost and what happened, and 90, demonstrate a wretched understanding of what happened and repeat all kinds of nonsense, Yuvo is a trace of all swanidzam and other Latin people.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 18: 38
            +4
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            One snot in pursuit

            It's not about snot, but in people. Snot then, they are fake, believe me, I know. yes
            But in essence you are right. hi
        3. Veteran Vlad.
          Veteran Vlad. 31 January 2014 23: 16
          +1
          Quote: RN40Y45
          yeah! and share everything!

          Just do not exaggerate, do not
          And then how CRAZY PLATE - TIRED ALREADY
          It is necessary to pull everything from the aligarchs into flesh to the golden tooth crowns and invest in the new industrialization of the country
      2. ultra
        ultra 31 January 2014 15: 38
        +10
        Quote: Veteran Vlad.
        First of all, CHANGE OUR POWER

        I will not argue with this! Only the question arises: “Who are we going to change for?” There is no worthy leader on the horizon! And to change, even this order, into chaos, thank you !!!!
        1. Cetegg
          Cetegg 31 January 2014 17: 12
          +1
          I would vote for Shoigu with joy!) Or Old Man to rent from Belarus!)))
          1. WASABI
            WASABI 31 January 2014 17: 56
            +3
            Quote: Cetegg
            Old Man from Belarus to rent!)))

            Or maybe it is better to unite and completely him to us as president?
            1. 120352
              120352 31 January 2014 22: 16
              0
              It is necessary to unite. Otherwise, they will devour us in parts, as the Little Russians are trying to launch the Kosovo option now. Yes, and they should be taken. All are one people!
          2. 120352
            120352 31 January 2014 22: 14
            -1
            Do you often visit Belarus? Or did you have to talk with Shoigu?
        2. Veteran Vlad.
          Veteran Vlad. 31 January 2014 23: 20
          0
          Quote: ultra
          For whom we will change

          I think in Lukashenko
          And there’s another suggestion - maybe it’s YOU not like it:
          You can invite Varyagov because it happened with Rurik
      3. Skiff_spb
        Skiff_spb 31 January 2014 15: 59
        +2
        And what - right after you rush to start triple? =)
        1. 120352
          120352 31 January 2014 22: 20
          0
          I have so many five, despite the fact that on real, well-deserved epaulettes, one star is less than the local fake. And this means that they all appeared in my presence in the absence of at least some kind of life. But they grew up honest, smart and healthy. Officer children.
      4. Tersky
        Tersky 31 January 2014 16: 00
        +4
        Quote: Veteran Vlad.
        First of all, CHANGE OUR POWER

        In (B) Ukraine is already changing ... and judging by the behavior of demoniacs on the Maidan, a population explosion awaits it.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 31 January 2014 16: 36
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          ... and judging by the behavior of the possessed on the Maidan, a demographic explosion awaits her.

          They will join the gayrope, and there the homosexuals rule (by the way, do you remember the "gayrop" flag with asterisks in a circle? And the color of the flag?). No, the "population explosion" from the fans and allies of homosyat should not be expected.
        2. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 31 January 2014 16: 40
          0
          Tersky RU
          Maidowns are scum and foam.
          What does the horror story about these moronic raguli, regarding the question of changing the power and course of the country in Russia?
          Are you comfortable with the liberal course? Are you really sure that it is now time that the course of Gaidar-Chubais-Medvedev is the only correct one?
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 31 January 2014 20: 46
            +2
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            What does the horror story about these moronic raguli, regarding the question of changing the power and course of the country in Russia?

            1. While Maidan is a model of the consequences of calls for a change of power. Where is she swapping power in Ukraine? What has changed or changed? Before yelling about a change, you need to at least have an idea of ​​who will be in power and what the consequences of attempts to change it can lead.
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            You really are sure that this is the time that the course of Gaidar-Chubais-Medvedev is the only
            correct?
            This is where you pulled? We look at item 1, and draw conclusions about what my leading comment is, to me F.I. Tyutchev; Vain work - no, you will not understand them, -
            The more liberal, the more vulgar,
            Civilization is a fetish for them,
            But their idea is not available to them.
            As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
            You do not get recognition from Europe:
            In her eyes you will always
            They are not servants of enlightenment, but servants.
            1. vladkavkaz
              vladkavkaz 1 February 2014 20: 51
              0
              Tersky
              Countryman, maybe not so I understand you.
              But as for Smirnov, this priest before politics, it’s a hell of an incense. In fact, all of his statements, according to the history of Russia in the form of the USSR-pop, are clearly brazenly lying in unison with the same blots as Svanidze and K, Rain and the Horse Ksenia.
        3. 120352
          120352 31 January 2014 22: 21
          -1
          In this scenario, they will face a national catastrophe.
      5. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 31 January 2014 16: 32
        -2
        Veteran Vlad
        "First of all it is necessary to CHANGE OUR POWER - this comprador colonial oligarchic POWER" - Who will give you, since Smirnov, a faithful servant of this power?
        How can he lie to the recent past, so always, please, hell is such a crap that you are amazed, but now he also began to prophesy, your dear God’s deeds ....
        1. Veteran Vlad.
          Veteran Vlad. 31 January 2014 23: 24
          0
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          Who will give you

          Yes, they will cling to power at all costs - because they realize that the loss of power is death, that they will live exactly as long as they need to bring THEM TO THE WALL
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 15: 54
      +10
      Quote: brainkiller
      In the USSR there was a tax on childlessness, it worked.

      Right. good And a complete ban on abortion, except for medical reasons and after rape. And for illegal abortions, the term is like for aggravated murder.
      1. 120352
        120352 31 January 2014 22: 25
        -1
        The ban on abortion after Stalin’s death was lifted. There were other incentives. The apartment is from the state. free quality guaranteed medicine, free, one of the best, if not the best, education in the world and much more.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 February 2014 09: 26
          0
          Quote: 120352
          There were other incentives

          Right, carrot and stick. Abortion bans and childless taxes are a whip. Well, you have listed the gingerbread cookies. hi
    3. Heccrbq.3
      Heccrbq.3 31 January 2014 16: 00
      +4
      Nothing is needed, Vovan said - We need Migrants !!! So they give birth to "new new Russians" and this infrastructure is especially unnecessary.
      1. ty60
        ty60 31 January 2014 16: 33
        +1
        Migrants give birth to new migrants with their mentality and upbringing. See the example of France.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 31 January 2014 16: 43
        0
        Quote: Heccrbq.3
        Migrants !!! So they give birth to "new new Russians"

        No, the term "new Russians" is firmly attached to a certain category of former citizens of the USSR who "rule" in ErEfii. Only for some reason they are some kind of gussies, and their capital is in London. Your theory is not viable.
    4. ty60
      ty60 31 January 2014 16: 30
      +3
      Health care, my friend! In addition to giving birth, in fact, to grow up a person who is fully-fledged in all respects while still maintaining the health of parents. And we are already being told that there will be no medicine for free, it will be paid. In addition to the medical insurance policy, part of the services is paid for by myself. This is for everyone. And there will be a mother cash out the capital at 50% to raise children. As a result, a married couple, two children. Only reproduction, no more. And lack of education because there is nothing to pay for education. That means there is nothing to pay the mortgage to the future generation, so that there is where to live and BREED! Maybe it looks too pessimistic, but so far it looks like that.
    5. Toledo
      Toledo 31 January 2014 17: 30
      +3
      Quote: brainkiller
      In the USSR there was a tax on childlessness, it worked.
      But before the tax, conditions, infrastructure, kindergartens, schools, hospitals are needed, and these are all professions that have been ignored for quite some time.
      And in the North Caucasus, where the majority of people live poorer than in other regions, there is a very powerful population growth. Maybe there are many kindergartens, schools, hospitals? Not. Family traditions are preserved there, there is no alcoholism and drug addiction. Can you imagine that girls, even unmarried women, hang out there at night clubs and get drunk to the state of an animal? Another example is in the Trans-Baikal Territory, where I live and which includes the Aginsky Buryat Autonomous Okrug, under equal conditions and opportunities, the Buryats have much higher birth rates. Of course, the demographic issue is extremely complex, but without the elimination of alcoholism, drug addiction, the revival of traditional family values, a positive solution to this issue is impossible. It's time to take up the mind and not disgrace the memory of our ancestors!
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 18: 39
        +1
        Quote: Toledo
        Quote: brainkiller
        In the USSR there was a tax on childlessness, it worked.
        But before the tax, conditions, infrastructure, kindergartens, schools, hospitals are needed, and these are all professions that have been ignored for quite some time.
        And in the North Caucasus, where the majority of people live poorer than in other regions, there is a very powerful population growth. Maybe there are many kindergartens, schools, hospitals? Not. Family traditions are preserved there, there is no alcoholism and drug addiction. Can you imagine that girls, even unmarried women, hang out there at night clubs and get drunk to the state of an animal? Another example is in the Trans-Baikal Territory, where I live and which includes the Aginsky Buryat Autonomous Okrug, under equal conditions and opportunities, the Buryats have much higher birth rates. Of course, the demographic issue is extremely complex, but without the elimination of alcoholism, drug addiction, the revival of traditional family values, a positive solution to this issue is impossible. It's time to take up the mind and not disgrace the memory of our ancestors!

        As for the Caucasus, I completely agree. I confirm your words as a native of the North Caucasus.
        1. 120352
          120352 31 January 2014 22: 35
          -1
          But what are solid drunks, drug addicts and bandits coming here from the Caucasus ?!
      2. 120352
        120352 31 January 2014 22: 33
        0
        I sympathize with you! But in Leningrad there are no problems that you write about. Alcoholism ended in the late 90s - the beginning of the 10s, when alcoholics died out, I did not notice drug addiction, except for Caucasians and other Muslims. By the way, if anyone drinks in St. Petersburg beyond measure, it is they. Ours have long decided to live well and, if possible, for a long time. True, the birth rate is weak, but XNUMX years ago it was even worse. And to take up the mind is right! And it’s better that it works all the time.
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  4. RUSS
    RUSS 31 January 2014 15: 29
    +5
    It’s easier than, for example, allocating land and giving onerous (ideally, generally interest-free) loans for housing construction and training. Since the market since the 90s has not succeeded in properly accustoming to be more humane to those from whom it is required to “raise Russia”.

    In fact, how much land is in Russia, I know that many are ready to live on "land", but for some reason the state is not ready to allocate land to the population, many families are ready to build, but the price of land is sky-high, registration is bureaucratic, there are no subsidies or subsidies. support for farmers and collective farms almost only in words.
    1. Skiff_spb
      Skiff_spb 31 January 2014 16: 09
      +2
      Why sky-high? In the country, we have quite a 10-50 thousand rubles weaving. Or are you building on the ruble? Then yes - sky-high. It’s the matter that everyone wants to be built under the city itself, so there’s not much to be done, the place is limited, hence the price.

      Here is the cost of supplying communications - yes. One gas supply, even if the pipe is at the fence, prepare 500 thousand. Water - 100, light 50. Although it’s business ... No, I understand that you need to calculate the capacity, but even if they are there is a price tag.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 17: 34
        +1
        Quote: Skiff_spb
        In the country, we have quite a 10-50 thousand rubles weaving

        You will not live in the country. Actually, the land is more expensive, but on communications you yourself wrote, prices are higher than the roof. hi
    2. ty60
      ty60 31 January 2014 16: 34
      0
      And officials are used to getting a position on FEEDING
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 31 January 2014 16: 48
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      support for farmers and collective farms almost verbally

      Dear, where did you get this word "collective farms" from? All this died there, in the past, with the memorable Gaidar, Elson and other degenerates of democracy.
  5. Alikovo
    Alikovo 31 January 2014 15: 30
    +6
    Despite the external and internal enemies of the century, Russia will stand idle.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 31 January 2014 15: 41
      +3
      Quote: Alikovo
      Despite the external and internal enemies of the century, Russia will stand idle.

      the main thing is not to just =)
  6. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 31 January 2014 15: 39
    +1
    Tired of reading all these scarecrows already .. (although of course he is partially right) How many wars of all kinds of revolutions have survived and the people have been laid down and Russia is still recovering ...
  7. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 31 January 2014 15: 43
    0
    Somehow like this...
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 31 January 2014 16: 06
      0
      Creates in the soul the will not to give up
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 16: 28
        +2
        "In heaven, God. On earth, Russia." Good saying, correct.
  8. Enjoy
    Enjoy 31 January 2014 15: 48
    +4
    In general, the article is adequate, of course we have enough problems with demography, but here it is:
    the state, for example, provides subsidies for in vitro fertilization programs. Billions of rubles are allocated, in fact, to birth control, to ensure artificial childlessness.

    How it is?? How interesting it is, grants for IVF provide "artificial childlessness"? Bees versus honey?

    The second time I write: special state medical centers at the expense of these state subsidies help hundreds of families a year to have long-awaited healthy children for free. And this is only in my region.

    I myself am a believer, but not a fanatic. And the continuous negativity of the church in relation to medical technology, in which no one in the church understands, but forbids with the stubbornness of the red commissar, causes irritation. He stuck a piece of the Middle Ages in someone’s head.
    1. ty60
      ty60 31 January 2014 16: 36
      0
      Apparently there was a blotch
  9. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 15: 56
    0
    Russia is 50 years old

    50 years to what? Before it becomes a world empire or a Russian empire? If so, then I do not mind, although I would like it to happen as soon as possible.
    And if about this garbage about death, then let them roll to hell. Russia stood, Russia stands and Russia will stand! soldier
    And I don’t believe the myths of scarecrows, it’s not up to them to decide what will happen!
    1. rauffg
      rauffg 31 January 2014 16: 17
      +2
      Before it becomes a world empire or a Russian empire?

      if what am I for! RUSSIA - Empire forever!
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 16: 49
        +1
        Quote: rauffg
        Before it becomes a world empire or a Russian empire?

        if what am I for! RUSSIA - Empire forever!

        I'm with you! drinks Go Russia! soldier
      2. Veteran Vlad.
        Veteran Vlad. 31 January 2014 23: 35
        0
        Quote: rauffg
        if what am I for! RUSSIA - Empire forever!

        I am against the empire - just like an empire (building, defending, expanding an empire, and an empire cannot exist without expansion) draws all the forces of the people, all its juices and all its blood. DEMOGRAPHIC AND LIFE FALL Russian people TOMU EXAMPLE
        1) At the beginning, the Soviet empire pulled all the juices of the people to the rise of the country's outskirts, supporting the national liberation movements of the countries of the 3rd world when they were helped with money, manufactured goods and weapons for free. Armed and fed half the world
        2) The current comprador-oligarchic regime of Yeltsin and now Putin has finally finished off and is finishing off the people
    2. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 31 January 2014 23: 34
      0
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      how will it become a world empire or a Russian empire

      I am against the empire - just like an empire (building, defending, expanding an empire, and an empire cannot exist without expansion) draws all the forces of the people, all its juices and all its blood. DEMOGRAPHIC AND LIFE FALL Russian people TOMU EXAMPLE
      1) At the beginning, the Soviet empire pulled all the juices of the people to the rise of the country's outskirts, supporting the national liberation movements of the countries of the 3rd world when they were helped with money, manufactured goods and weapons for free. Armed and fed half the world
      2) The current comprador-oligarchic regime of Yeltsin and now Putin has finally finished off and is finishing off the people
  10. andrei332809
    andrei332809 31 January 2014 16: 01
    +4
    soooo, okay. let's touch on abortions a little (waves beat the abortion of the ship, who remembers). if a woman is not ready to become a mother, then it is compulsory to do a mother ... whom will she raise? so it seems to me that the issue should be resolved "according to Soviet democratic laws" (from the movie "garage") to restore the age of puberty at 18. homodrils to the criminal case. promoting homodrils to a more serious criminal offense. Well, then the social sphere. under the current democrats, of course, no one will be "generous", but maybe they will be taken out ...
    1. ty60
      ty60 31 January 2014 16: 51
      +1
      But shit is necessary to educate. Including in our forum. However, with shadow income, the tax on childlessness is utopia. Only for hard workers, and they are already overloaded with taxes. Those who are on a white salary. themselves at a minimum wage. The fiscal authorities are asleep. Either they get it for not seeing it. Can make an offer to the Duma - From 18 years old, every working person PAYS a fixed tax to the budget before the birth of the first child. Before the birth of a second child pays 2% of this figure. Adopted children -Do not consider. Separate line-payments to the adopted. Tighten control.
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 31 January 2014 17: 29
        +1
        Quote: ty60
        From the age of 18, each working person PAYS a fixed tax to the budget until the birth of the first child.

        No, you can’t start at 18. You have to start at the age of 25. Since, at the age of 18, a person just entered the institute, he has his first job, you will ruin it, and during your studies at the institute every penny is important, especially tax from 18 years completely destroys the financial independence of a person, thereby forcing him to move to his parents again, which means that he will again sit on the neck of his parents, which means that he will not work out an existing independent person. If you start paying at age 25, it’s quite possible to it is time. A person graduated from college, he already got a job, which means there is a steady income. Taxes must be paid depending on income, people must pay 10-15% of their income. Why did I choose 25 years? It should be understood that some people will go to school earlier or later. By the age of 25, the human body has already formed, growth and development have ended. By the time of the birth of 2 children, a person should pay 50% of what he paid before. As soon as 2 children are born, the state must return to a person 30-40% of the money that this person paid as a tax for childlessness, so that a person will have money to provide for his family and children.
        How do you like my amendment of your proposal?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 18: 44
          0
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          No, you can’t start at 18. You have to start at 25.

          True, as always in the middle. 20-21g. He came from the army, got a job, and forward. hi
  11. Black
    Black 31 January 2014 16: 09
    +2
    Russia as a phoenix bird, for God is with us!
    1. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 31 January 2014 16: 17
      +2
      But only God himself didn’t tell us to cry.
  12. Skiff_spb
    Skiff_spb 31 January 2014 16: 11
    0
    ... In general, for 50 years to predict something ... Well, at least it is doubtful. Too many variables and accidents. It's like planning in the 1910th in 60.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 31 January 2014 17: 21
      0
      Indeed: V.I.L. 1920 Speech at the 3rd Congress of the RKSM "The generation that is now 15 years old and which in 10-20 years will live in a communist society." N.S.Kh. 1962 "The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism!" M.S.G. 1986 "Each Soviet family - a separate apartment by the year 2000."
      And here V.S.V. I believe:
      "We learn a lot from books,
      And truths are transmitted orally:
      "There are no prophets in their own country,"
      But in other fatherlands - not a lot ... ".
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 31 January 2014 16: 17
    0
    And this one there! Intimidating. Few horror stories. Less need to hang around on the advice of the federation, and more to do biology and medicine.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 31 January 2014 16: 42
      -1
      But Smirnov, besides balabolstvo, on all channels and spitting in the past, does something else?
      The Church’s business is to heal wounds, and this priest only spoils everywhere wherever he gets ...
  14. shelva
    shelva 31 January 2014 16: 18
    +2
    "Billions of rubles are spent, in fact, on birth control, on ensuring artificial childlessness."
    They are trying to destroy Russians both "quietly" and openly - that is how such programs appear with billions of dollars in subsidies. There is no need to buy into "good advice" from the West, we have no friends there - only enemies and envious people. You need to rely only on yourself.
  15. bubla5
    bubla5 31 January 2014 16: 26
    +1
    Come on, those --- those, the --- those, and in history there has always been a birth rate, and pestilence of the population, wars and short breaks, countries united and conquered, just as suddenly disintegrated, so there is no need for hysteria, there will be a rise country, and how much is left, one God knows
  16. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 31 January 2014 16: 46
    +2
    Do not wait!

    Russian - do not destroy!
    1. Ducksar
      Ducksar 31 January 2014 23: 32
      0
      Your words yes to God in your ears!
  17. homosum20
    homosum20 31 January 2014 17: 23
    +1
    "slavik_gross RU Today, 15:22
    Without FAITH in God, the Russian people will not exist !!! "
    Zae ....... that is - amazing!
    My boss (he is the owner of the company) has 5 children (all girls). 3 - in the family. 2 - from 2 other women. The eldest is studying in France. The rest is very good here. My wife is in a normal relationship. He gave the older women one of their own firms - she's the gene. Deer and master, the second is too young - still to come.
    Maybe the respected archpriest will tell you how to relate to this ?. He does not receive benefits. He cares and loves all five. (These are girls - they will give offspring!). Should I despise anything? And to respect the drunks who are raising a bandit from one child?
    How many children do you have?
    I am not saying anything. I'm asking.
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 31 January 2014 18: 09
      +4
      Quote: homosum20
      I am not saying anything. I'm asking

      And in vain.
      I argue that one should not rely on and blame everything on the "social sphere." The state is obliged to provide everyone with work and guarantee a decent salary. is needed, and therefore it should be free for children under 50 and for pensioners, and for the rest - insurance.
      It is necessary to stimulate the birth rate financially, from 25 years old a 12% tax on childlessness, gave birth to a daddy child 15% of the salary, and the tax is off, gave birth to a second one-another 10%, with women, if healthy, also take for childlessness, gave birth without a husband-40 % of the salary and free kindergarten, and in the summer a summer house for a child or camp.
      And the main thing is to end youth unemployment.
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 31 January 2014 18: 21
        +2
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        , with women, if healthy, also take for childlessness, gave birth without a husband-40% of the salary

        Firstly NOT WITH "BAB", BUT WITH WOMEN, and secondly everything else is true !!! good
      2. S-200
        S-200 31 January 2014 18: 24
        +2
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        It is necessary to stimulate the birth rate financially, from 25 years old a 12% tax on childlessness, gave birth to a daddy child 15% of the salary, and the tax is off, gave birth to a second one-another 10%, with women, if healthy, also take for childlessness, gave birth without a husband-40 %

        Sorry, but FOR WHOSE ACCOUNT (this banquet))) ??? !!!
        who should pay extra? the state. which barely 10 euros for the whole child’s life today, parents only issue a voucher ?? !!
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 31 January 2014 18: 30
          +1
          Quote: S-200
          Sorry, but FOR WHOSE ACCOUNT (this banquet))) ??? !!!

          Just take a word - MONEY IN THE STATE OF RUSSIAN IS AND not small! yes
          1. old rocket man
            old rocket man 31 January 2014 19: 43
            0
            Quote: S-200
            sorry, but WHOSE ACCOUNT (this banquet)))

            Quote: VASABI
            Quote: S-200
            Sorry, but FOR WHOSE ACCOUNT (this banquet))) ??? !!!

            Just take a word - MONEY IN THE STATE OF RUSSIAN IS AND not small! yes


            At the expense of the tax on bachelors, this is, firstly, and secondly. There really is money, and not small. We found capital for the maternity capital. And then they will find, shake the "stabilization fund" hi
    2. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 1 February 2014 00: 20
      0
      Quote: homosum20
      5 ro children (all girls). 3 - in the family. 2 - from 2 other women.

      Total: 3 women gave birth to 5 children, which is less than 1,7 children for each woman, i.e. they did not "rise in price" 2 children for simple reproduction. And where is the benefit for the state?
  18. Power
    Power 31 January 2014 17: 25
    0
    And will it be fifty years later, America’s beloved country of liberals?
  19. Tanysh
    Tanysh 31 January 2014 17: 30
    +2
    The question is not timely, but glaring! I think that the church should be separated from the state, but it is imperative to use the values ​​preached by any religion. Until our rulers raise their salaries by 100000 rubles, and there will be no use for the maintenance of children at 23 rubles. I always considered Lenin's words to be correct: “A teacher in the Soviet state should stand at such a height that he did not stand, does not and will not stand in any capitalist state. Until we return to the priorities of man and citizen, there will be no sense. Religion is one way to achieve these goals. After all, there are no unbelievers in the trenches.
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 31 January 2014 19: 48
      +1
      Quote: Tanysh
      The question is not timely, but glaring! I think that the church should be separated from the state, but it is extremely necessary to use the values ​​preached by any religion.


      Our church is already separated from the state.
      That's right, there are no non-believers in the trenches, but faith is a private matter of everyone, faith is the soul, and you don't have to climb into the soul with dirty boots, and with clean ones too, let alone "use" hi
  20. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 31 January 2014 17: 41
    0
    How many different "predictors" have already been predicting the imminent or not quite death of Russia and the whole world (and Vangu, and Messing, and John of Kronstadt were dragged here), and Russia stands and will stand and the world will not go anywhere. All "predictors" - for scrap.
  21. delfinN
    delfinN 31 January 2014 17: 42
    +4
    Quote: strannik595
    so, men, it’s good to write ...... went for wives !!! love


    She collects her husband’s wife in the morning for work: ironed trousers, shirt, socks, laces, breakfast on the table. The husband, leaving for work, tells his wife:
    - Give me some money.
    - Why do you need money?
    - Well, I’m going to work, I’ll meet someone, I’ll be the third ...
    - You’d better go straight home from work, do not linger anywhere - you will be the first!
    1. S-200
      S-200 31 January 2014 18: 28
      +1
      Quote: delfinN
      - You’d better go straight home from work, do not linger anywhere - you will be the first!

      bld. joke ... wassat
  22. plebs
    plebs 31 January 2014 18: 21
    +1
    This is all crap, poverty, wealth, the state, what else is there called in the causes of small childbearing? What is the difference between a society where families have many children from small children? The position of women! Where women have few rights, there are many children, where many rights are few children. And this is an axiom.
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 31 January 2014 18: 26
      -2
      Quote: plebs
      Where women have few rights, there are many children, where many rights are few children.

      Are you a chauvinist?
      Quote: plebs
      And this is an axiom.

      Or a mathematician?
      Or maybe they decided to share their personal childless experience? belay
      1. plebs
        plebs 31 January 2014 18: 39
        +1
        Are you a chauvinist?
        Not. I just love history. Why are you reacting so aggressively? I didn’t offer to infringe on women somehow, it’s now impossible. And if you don’t like my remark about women's rights, give your arguments and don’t put labels on them.
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 31 January 2014 18: 57
          +2
          Quote: plebs
          you don't like my cue

          And what do you think? Two higher educations, a highly prestigious civil service, two small children - is this a good reason to cut my rights?
          First, achieve something similar, and then you will talk about "women's rights". And the problem is not at all in the rights of women (if you do not accept the "axiom" that a woman is a "second-class" person), but in worthy men (or rather, in a sharp reduction in their number, excuse me).
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 19: 17
            +2
            Quote: VASABI
            on women's rights

            Do not be offended Svetlana, it is not a matter of cutting rights. There has simply been too much talk about women's rights lately. And this leads to an increase in the number of divorces. A man is dominant by nature, and he just needs an object for his own realization. For your sake we cock, for your sake we are fighting. There are now too many women with "rasping", which most men do not consider as life companions, except that a friend for the night. And on a global scale, this greatly affects fertility. hi
            P.S. The strength of a woman, in her weakness.
          2. plebs
            plebs 31 January 2014 19: 28
            0
            And the problem is not women’s rights at all.
            True? Let’s see. Where do demographics in our country, in Muslim countries, do we need to talk about women's rights there? And where is the catastrophe, in Europe, here I think you know firsthand the rights of women, and they don’t seem to be in poverty, all houses have washing machines, multicookers, dishwashers, and some men are perfumed and shaved, and there are fewer and fewer children.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 20: 20
              +1
              Quote: plebs
              .And they don’t seem to be in poverty, everything in the houses has washing machines, multicookers, dishwashers

              Pushkin has a good story about a fisherman and a goldfish. The old woman there personifies the female not just the essence, the female mentality. And the manipulators take advantage of this effectively, introducing a split between us. Drawing the image of a strong business woman in front of women, they purposefully lead them to a broken trough. A simple example, most business women are not very happy in their personal lives.
              Same thing with child rights.
              1. plebs
                plebs 1 February 2014 03: 39
                0
                And the manipulators use it effectively
                Yes, there are no manipulators. There is a Modern Civilized Woman whose
                Two higher educations, highly prestigious civil service, two small children
                considering herself on this more worthy of a muzhchinki ragged. And she does not understand, and what is the worst thing and does not want to understand that the whole world that surrounds her rests on unworthy men. I have not seen women in these professions as locksmiths, electricians, and all kinds of adjusters (watches, computers, cars). And what does the Modern Civilized Woman do? He teaches at school, brings up children in a kindergarten, doctor, sits in various offices (clerk). So to whom are the claims about the small number of "worthy men"? You educate them. Although the men have not changed in a thousand years, as they liked to drink with friends (Jesus with the apostles), football, boxing (gladiatorial fights) and the rest have remained, so there are no secret villains, but there are women who want to do whatever they want. with what God rewarded them.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 1 February 2014 09: 23
                  0
                  Quote: plebs
                  There is a Modern Civilized Woman

                  And who indulges them in this? The movement of suffragists did not appear from scratch. hi
                  1. plebs
                    plebs 1 February 2014 10: 05
                    +1
                    The movement of suffragists did not appear from scratch
                    Probably so. In some article about demography, I read that 1 child is extinction, 2 trampling in place, and only three children start growing weakly. These are the pies.
  23. delfinN
    delfinN 31 January 2014 18: 37
    +1
    Quote: S-200
    Quote: delfinN
    - You’d better go straight home from work, do not linger anywhere - you will be the first!

    bld. joke ... wassat

    Well, why? Vital.
  24. Snipe 74
    Snipe 74 31 January 2014 18: 45
    +1
    Only impurities burn out in the fire and pure gold remains at the exit. All troubles will pass and Russia will shine again, and will be an example for all. And the church, like a lighthouse on the shore, will show the way for everyone. God will not leave Russia. He only waits for us to ask His forgiveness.
  25. Old scoop
    Old scoop 31 January 2014 18: 45
    +1
    This church, as an institute, is not long. They are losing the flock, the wave of popularity has subsided, the exotics of the post-Soviet church have become boring. Look at the Catholics what they just do not come up with just to drag people to themselves. In my opinion, the church in the current realities is another way to make money and gain power. Only a few truly faithful ministers help people, the rest simply nail up loot.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 January 2014 21: 34
      +1
      By the way, the institution of "church" is disgusting to God. "Church" is a business that feeds a certain part of the population, and nothing more. In the Holy Scriptures in the New Testament there are such words: "Do not build for me earthly palaces, but erect heavenly temples for me .... You do not need a temple for prayer, transform your knees where the need has overtaken you and imagine your Father loving you immensely and forgiving before you. and ask him about your need ... "And it's not for nothing that the churchmen hide the texts of the Gospel of Thomas ...
      1. VADEL
        VADEL 31 January 2014 23: 50
        +1
        Read John at your leisure. And do not scatter in separate extracts from the Bible. Its meaning, as well as the essence of being, is not yet available to us.
    2. Svobodny
      Svobodny 1 February 2014 10: 37
      0
      Quote: Old scoop
      This church, as an institute, is not long.

      Similarly, the Old scoop)))laughing
  26. voliador
    voliador 31 January 2014 19: 13
    +1
    Fish goes out of my head. While all sorts of iPhones rule the country - do not expect anything good!
  27. WIN969
    WIN969 31 January 2014 21: 50
    0
    How tired of all these pessimists, not the mind is not imagination. The Russian Empire collapsed, and the population was 140 million as it is now, and so were the pessimists, all whining and whining, we won’t survive. But in the end, we survived the second war, and the population increased to 300 million. Now history is repeating itself.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 07: 27
      0
      Quote: WIN969
      now 140 million

      Quote: WIN969
      up to 300 million

      First, according to the latest figure, not 300 million, but 286,7 million (1989) "The largest increase in the number of families was in the republics of Central Asia and the Azerbaijan SSR (22-29%), as well as in the Kazakh SSR (16%)" ...
      According to the first figure, 142,18 million (2010). It is without those republics within the USSR that gave the main population growth. Bad examples are given to argue the comment.
  28. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 31 January 2014 23: 21
    +2
    It seems to me that it’s not a matter of how much you worry. The matter is still in the doctors. Regarding my sons: the 1st was born normally, the 2nd midwife was yelling and feeding. She tortured her for days, climbed up and squeezed her knees. Third, so as not to torment his wife agreed to a cesarean section. They’ve dropped b .. the child is now disabled on the floor, his wife is messing with him for the 25th year. I don’t know how you do in the big cities and in my 40 thousandth I don’t trust him. they carry a heart attack and stroke to a neighboring region for 90 km. This is what kind of schiz you need to be in your head in order to be so angry at people. And this is not anywhere else in the taiga region, where the population is 3 people. per sq. km.a in the Kuban!
    1. VADEL
      VADEL 31 January 2014 23: 38
      +1
      I agree! I sympathize. My wife does not go to the pediatric surgeon with the child, she is afraid of his scream and there is no sense in him, I am not going to him, I am afraid to strangle him.
  29. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 07: 14
    0
    Gentlemen, comrades, after all, the deanery raised the right question. And your comments confirm this, falcons soared with eagles ... And as for the forecasts, I posted above (comment on comment). There are no prophets in his Fatherland ...
  30. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 February 2014 14: 34
    0
    The archpriest raised a very important and such a serious topic that one should not get rid of jokes. His statements and forecasts for 50 years shocked not those to whom he crucified (he does not care much about the fate of the people and the country when he is well fed and well "packed"), we are in shock ordinary citizens of Russia. And the current situation stems from the cannibalistic policy of our Gaidar-style "democrats", for them the main thing was to bring the population of Russia to 50-70 million people (to service the extraction of natural resources, which will be plundered by the Western masters of these "shitcrats"). That the current government, headed by Medvedev, does not know about what is happening in the country, no matter how it is, it drives the people into such a hole with all its decisions that soon we will not think about children, but about how to survive ourselves. Examples, please: insane decision to rob the people under the guise of raising funds for capital repairs, housing repairs (they collect money, and there, like according to Hajj Nasreddin: either the donkey dies, or the padishah, or I churn myself). energy soldering is what an idiot you have to be in order to offer this in Russia, a country with an unpredictable climate, and the ideas of liberals about the immediate introduction of GMOs. Well, that's enough now about the main thing: how long will the economic bloc in the government be occupied by liberal traitors, who see the main task of their activities in maintaining the dollar and the US government hostile to Russia. Are you gentlemen, traitors for fools, keep us? And it's time for our Guarantor of the Constitution to think about and remember the Oath that he took when he took office! We still believe in you, dear President, but it's time to back our faith with concrete deeds! now, and not in a bright future. Take away the stolen property of the people from a gang of crooks and monuments will be erected for you during your lifetime and the people will follow you without hesitation! Then it will be possible to talk about the beginning of the revival of Russia!