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Moscow plant them. Mile will develop a draft of a new high-speed helicopter

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January 29, AEX.RU - The Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant (part of the Russian Helicopters holding) will develop a conceptual and technical design of the new Russian prospective high-speed helicopter until the end of November 2015, reports ITAR-TASS with reference to a representative of the Roman Kirillov holding. The amount of the contract for research work will be up to 3,3 billion rubles.


The company also has to manufacture and test the so-called "flying laboratory" - a prototype, on the basis of which tests will be conducted.

Initially, the program of a promising high-speed helicopter assumed two parallel developments - the Mi-X1 design bureau Mil and Ka-92 of the Kamov design bureau to select the best technological solution. As a result, the most optimal from an economic and technical point of view were recognized the solutions and approaches of KB Mil.

“Currently, the classic eight (Mi-8 helicopter) is the world market leader in the medium helicopter segment, so it was decided to maintain positions in this niche and develop a helicopter in the same“ weight category. ”As a model, it was presented to at the Farnborough Air Show in 2012, the project was defended and received state support, "said a representative of Russian Helicopters.

In May, 2013, Roman Chernyshev, then the general director of the Russian Helicopters holding, said that certification tests could begin in 2018-2020 years. According to him, at the first stage, the speed characteristics of the helicopter will exceed the current by about a quarter, the car will be manufactured on the basis of the available technologies and materials. Only at the second stage of the program will the holding start building a helicopter with higher speed and other technical characteristics.

The development of a promising high-speed helicopter (PSV) is provided for by the federal target program "Development of Civil aviation Russian technology. "PSV should provide a flight range of up to 1,5 thousand km and be adapted for vip transportation. At the first stage of the program, the cruising speed of the machine will be 300-350 km / h, at the second stage - about 450 km / h. Helicopter weighing 10-12 tons, it is focused on the needs of the aviation market, in the passenger version it will have a passenger capacity of 21-24 people, specialized versions of the helicopter are also being developed: search and rescue, patrol and medical.
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  1. klimpopov
    klimpopov 30 January 2014 12: 00
    +12
    Mi - 8 legend. It's good that we move on! Although I recently read that the scope for creativity in Mi-8 is far from exhausted.
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 30 January 2014 12: 18
      +9
      The idea is good, but I read that Kamovtsy’s projects are more technologically advanced and TTX is better ... well, I hope the commission chose the best option ...
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 30 January 2014 20: 16
        +2
        A high-speed helicopter can only be coaxial, because otherwise the problem of the retreating blade appears, it is it that limits the speed of helicopters to the value of the order of 350-400 km / h.
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        2. RPD
          RPD 30 January 2014 23: 58
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          What limited the speed of piston aircraft? Well, the blade cannot jump higher. cannot constructively
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 31 January 2014 15: 01
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            Piston engine can be replaced by a turbine, solving the problem of power, but the supersonic tip of the blades becomes inevitable, the problem is sometimes solved with coaxial screws on both the An-70 and Tu-95, the fastest screw aircraft in history (920 km / h). For 500-800 km / h speeds, the turboprop engine is apparently optimal in terms of fuel consumption, the only problem is noisy, the Tu-95 seems to be the champion here, in terms of noise.
    2. Civil
      Civil 30 January 2014 14: 12
      +5
      Kamovtsev drown .... and mi -8 development of the 60s, by Milm himself, and since then there has been no success
      1. StolzSS
        StolzSS 30 January 2014 20: 14
        -1
        You’re wrong just to do better what was brilliant in the Milev edition you had to jump above your head, but it turned out just like the genius of Mil, and it seems to you that you don’t have it, but you yourself think, did the designers and technologists mess around slowly all these years improved the car ??? So it turned out that the helicopter legend flies and will fly for another 40 years at least ... And then now, to surpass this design, you have to create a machine p 2 times superior to existing ones, which means we need a chief designer and a design bureau that is cooler than Mil had. So if they do it in 5-6 years, then they will receive the Stalin Prize! soldier
    3. 120352
      120352 30 January 2014 14: 42
      +6
      I agree completely! I had to fly it in the North in different weathers, and even when it was not at all. Here, of course, a lot depends on the skill of the pilots, but skill is not developed on a bad machine. Reliable, unpretentious, time-tested device. Very good concept. Would not lose!
      After all, in Afghanistan they came from a mission in the form of one continuous hole, but on their own. And his speed is quite, 230 km / h. (I flew on such), and maybe more.
      It would be necessary to erect a monument to him.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 30 January 2014 15: 03
        +4
        After all, in Afghanistan they came from a mission in the form of one continuous hole,

        There he did his job!
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 30 January 2014 15: 33
          +6
          Quote: klimpopov
          There he did his job!

          Klim hi ! I was interested in something else, I quote: "The amount of the contract for the research work of the Mi-X1 will be up to 3,3 billion rubles.", Now the same topic, but a little less than a year ago- "92 billion will be spent on the development of the Ka-2,5 high-speed helicopter rubles ", (read here), that is, it turns out the more expensive the project (+ 0,8 lard or + 24,24% of the cost of the Kamovsky project), the more persistently it lobbies. Wonderful are you in Russia ...
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 30 January 2014 15: 51
            +3
            Wonderful are you in Russia ...

            What is so wonderful? You can make a model at home, count the lards on 10 and they are more likely to take it. Alas, these are the realities.
            Vit, hi !
    4. AVV
      AVV 31 January 2014 00: 40
      0
      Quote: klimpopov
      Mi - 8 legend. It's good that we move on! Although I recently read that the scope for creativity in Mi-8 is far from exhausted.

      You need to leave the good and upgrade it if the potential allows !!!
  2. svp67
    svp67 30 January 2014 12: 00
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    Good luck and fastest results ...
  3. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 30 January 2014 12: 10
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    Although they are pleased here, although to the end result with our slowness, oh how far!
  4. askort154
    askort154 30 January 2014 12: 15
    +6
    From the article ... "be fit for vip transportation ..."


    Well, where without them ?! Maybe Kamovtsy did not offer this, and therefore lost?
  5. Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 30 January 2014 12: 19
    +4
    Guys, here's a photo. I do not know for sure or not, but still.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 30 January 2014 12: 56
      0
      What is the helicopter on the "photo" looks like a Sikorsky! And the tail is not cut off in this graph for nothing!
      1. Windbreak
        Windbreak 30 January 2014 16: 57
        +2
        And what about Sikorsky? On the picture is RACHEL Russian Advanced Commercial Helicopter (Russian perspective commercial helicopter). Which is probably the first phase of the program.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 30 January 2014 21: 47
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          Quote: Burel
          And what about Sikorsky?
          I would have seen a model, I wouldn’t say so, but on the side, the S-92 only resembles without a cut wing!

      2. Alex 241
        Alex 241 30 January 2014 21: 54
        +3
        Rachel
        This model took shape as a separate project as part of the work on the creation of a promising medium helicopter. The sonorous English name RACHEL is an abbreviation for Russian Advanced Commercial Helicopter (promising Russian commercial helicopter). Its task - neither more nor less - to replace the legendary Mi-8, the most massive and successful domestically produced vehicle. Several fundamental decisions have been made along the way. So, according to Russian Helicopters, instead of the sheer speed that was supposed to be pursued earlier, priority is given to economic efficiency and environmental friendliness. There will still be an increase in speed, but it will be about 25% compared to modern counterparts, and not 50 or 100, which were assumed by the programs of high-speed helicopters (note that they will continue to exist, but as separate projects). The selection of the priorities was made after a thorough market research carried out with the assistance of aircraft operators.
        According to the plan, RACHEL will become a multipurpose commercial helicopter with a maximum take-off weight of 10-12 tons. The passenger version with a comfortable cabin will be able to carry 21-24 passengers. Specialized versions are also being developed: search and rescue, patrol and medical. The management of the Russian Helicopters holding suggests that this aircraft may become a new product of the Russian helicopter industry, which will gradually replace the fleet of Mi-8/17 helicopters. Together with the heavier Mi-38 helicopter, it is designed to strengthen the company's position in traditional markets in the long term. For the first time, the RACHEL concept was demonstrated to visitors to the Farnborough Air Show last year, and additional information on the promises of the holding representatives will be available privately at HeliRussia-2013.
    2. rolik
      rolik 30 January 2014 13: 27
      +4
      Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
      Guys, here's a photo. I do not know for sure or not, but still.

      Here is the project of the MILI Mi-X1 high-speed helicopter (photo of 2008), and which one will not be known in real life.
      1. sub307
        sub307 30 January 2014 14: 57
        +1
        I don’t understand something - how does his propeller work, which is on the tail boom? It seems like "left-right" should push depending on the direction of rotation of the main carrier.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 30 January 2014 15: 31
          +2
          I’m also wondering how they compensate for the moment of rotation. Maybe he is not standing right, but at an angle?
          Considered: There, in the plane of the ring, the vertical "rudder" stands, apparently deflects the flow to the desired angle.
          1. avg
            avg 30 January 2014 17: 02
            0
            Well, if things are as they say. It is too similar to the fact that Kamovites are pushed out like MiGs are pushed out of planes. A healthy competition would not hurt.
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 30 January 2014 19: 55
            +2
            Quote: Wedmak
            I’m also wondering how they compensate for the moment of rotation. Maybe he is not standing right, but at an angle?
            Considered: There, in the plane of the ring, the vertical "rudder" stands, apparently deflects the flow to the desired angle.


            One of the main technical tasks to be solved in the framework of
            grams of Mi-X1, is the creation and experimental testing local rotor retreat suppression systems (SLES). According to the developers, the introduction of such a system in combination with the use of a pushing propeller as an additional source of propulsive force and the general improvement of the aerodynamics of the helicopter will make it possible to get at least 1 km / h on the Mi-X500. Wherein thrust driven thrust screwlocated in a satellite stream, at the same time allows you to compensate for the reactive moment from the rotor of a single-rotor helicopter in hovering and low speeds
            Mi-X1: concept details
          3. Alex 241
            Alex 241 30 January 2014 22: 00
            +1
            Quote: Wedmak
            the vertical "rudder" stands, apparently deflects the flow at the desired angle.
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      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 30 January 2014 20: 17
        0
        Damn, this design, in principle, can not fly, because there is no device for quenching the reactive moment from the screw.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 30 January 2014 20: 06
      0
      Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
      . I do not know for sure or not, but still.

      In my opinion, the alleged samples look like this
  6. Havoc
    Havoc 30 January 2014 12: 24
    0
    The main thing is that the design does not stretch for decades.
  7. Simon
    Simon 30 January 2014 12: 48
    0
    It is very good when helicopters reach the maximum speed of aircraft with screw engines. The light path to such helicopters! good
  8. propolsky
    propolsky 30 January 2014 13: 07
    0
    Good luck, gentlemen, developers and testers!
  9. Nitarius
    Nitarius 30 January 2014 13: 23
    0
    ShturmKGB
    The idea is good, but I read that Kamovtsy’s projects are more technologically advanced and TTX is better ... well, I hope the commission chose the best option ...

    Well ... well, we'll hope too!
    Well, it would be better if both built EXPERIMENTS and check the CHARACTERISTICS!
  10. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 30 January 2014 13: 59
    +3
    And this is the project of KA 92 ...
  11. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 30 January 2014 14: 09
    +2
    And in the photo in the article-Teshechka! It's nice to see your wards! good
  12. Wiruz
    Wiruz 30 January 2014 14: 28
    +5
    Personally, I like the Ka-92 project more, just such a flying VIP-class bus.
    1. voliador
      voliador 30 January 2014 15: 09
      0
      Does he have a pushing screw behind?
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 January 2014 15: 20
        +2
        Yes. This screw allows you to develop speed greater than a conventional helicopter.
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  14. voliador
    voliador 30 January 2014 15: 13
    -1
    I think that it’s not for nothing that the Milevians won. They always worked in this segment, but as far as I remember, Kamovites had no such work. Although, judging by the lower part of the fuselage, it is also suitable for Kamovites to land on water (?), If so, then this is a plus, especially during an emergency landing.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 30 January 2014 15: 33
      0
      Although, judging by the lower part of the fuselage, it is also suitable for Kamovites to land on water (?), If so, then this is a plus, especially during an emergency landing.

      Hardly. Rather, equipment compartments, including the chassis.
  15. Arh
    Arh 30 January 2014 15: 16
    0
    Mi-X1 in the layout
    1. Arh
      Arh 30 January 2014 15: 21
      +3
      Ka-92 in the layout
  16. BOB48
    BOB48 30 January 2014 17: 13
    0
    both handsome!
    but I think something is better already.
  17. luiswoo
    luiswoo 30 January 2014 19: 25
    +1
    The machine is designed to replace Mi-8 / 17 family helicopters.

    Heh, but what is the Mi-38 intended to replace? ...
    1. Tot-enot
      Tot-enot 30 January 2014 20: 12
      0
      Essentially nothing request
      due to the high price, it looks like it will remain piecewise sad
  18. saag
    saag 30 January 2014 20: 21
    0
    the incomprehensible thing is this very high-speed helicopter, well, maybe it plays a role in medicine, but sanitation either rested in a Bose, or has not yet come out of a coma, in general they saw that Sikorsky had invented something and go on repeating
    1. not main
      not main 30 January 2014 21: 30
      0
      Reducing the time spent in the air defense defeat zone when completing a task!
  19. sergodreamer
    sergodreamer 31 January 2014 01: 00
    0
    I think both projects have a right to exist, the more the better good