Hit of the season: Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter

Made this series of shots today in Zhukovsky. Hit of the season: Ka-52 "Alligator" attack helicopter.

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[smart ass]

Great photos, thanks!

[Skiff]

He is deadly beautiful, but I don’t understand why so many ovsk letters were written on him.

[Roman A]

Quote: Skiff

He is deadly beautiful, but I don’t understand why so many ovsk letters were written on him.

So I don’t understand that there is no Latin alphabet, so "Whirlwind-1" is spelled correctly
BEAUTY terrible power

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Roman A

Quote: Skiff

He is deadly beautiful, but I don’t understand why so many ovsk letters were written on him.

So I don’t understand that there is no Latin alphabet, so "Whirlwind-1" is spelled correctly
BEAUTY terrible power

Did you notice the Rosoboronexport sticker? This helicopter for sale over the hill is most likely.

[Roman A]

Did you notice the Rosoboronexport sticker? Most likely this helicopter for sale over a hill. [/ Quote]
And on foreign equipment for sale in Cyrillic they write

[BIGLESHIY]

Well, minus then for what?

[Ruslan67]

Quote: BIGLESHIY

Well, minus then for what?

Yes there is nothing And for what That would not relax, here you are not here Hold + Then give

[Vovka levka]

Quote: Skiff

Deadly handsome

Beautiful car, no questions. But combat capabilities raise doubts about guided weapons.

[I think so]

The helicopter itself and its flight data in the modern world play a secondary role ... the system’s ability depends on the weapons attached to it, weapon control systems, search and surveillance systems ... If the weapon systems are effective, then hanging them on a corn box will be a powerful machine ... This product just lacks effective and reliable weapon systems ... unless they ever appear ...

[edeligor]

Quote: Vovka Levka

But combat capabilities raise doubts about guided weapons.

Critic damn !!! If you admire the machine, do not forget that this is only a platform for placing weapons! Further explain ?!

[Vovka levka]

Quote: edeligor

Critic damn !!! If you admire the machine, do not forget that this is only a platform for placing weapons! Further explain ?!

Explain? What for?
Often had to see and hear bravura speech and see reality. The helicopter enters the troops, and he is a sire in the field of guided weapons. Of course, you can fight with the Papuans, but if God forbid something more serious? Or does the country need heroes, but the heroes we left as usual?

[invisibility]

Flying tank!
We have always been leaders in helicopter engineering. Do not give anyone a chance to get closer!

[ed65b]

Quote: invisible

Flying tank!
We have always been leaders in helicopter engineering. Do not give anyone a chance to get closer!

rather not a tank for a tank, we have another contender, not even a contender, but a specific "tank" It is rather a deadly hunter for any animal.

[invisibility]

Right! The main thing is that all applicants should be ours!

[raptor1975]

The helicopter is excellent, the photo is super, another thing is not clear: why Russian helicopters lose all APAChu export tenders (examples INDIA, IRAQ)

[VAF]

Quote: raptor1975

The helicopter is excellent, the photo is super, another thing is not clear: why

Because this is not yet a combat helicopter, but a "Wishlist"!
Photo, by the way, from MAX. The machine is an experimental flying stand of the OKB, prepared for Le Bourget (where, by the way, he flew past everything with a bang!)
An empty flying box with a minimum amount of avionics (really no one sees, everywhere are stubs ) not even ejected seats ???
Or the photo of "tethered Whirlwinds" clouded everything ??
Or maybe the New Year's "festive foam" hasn't settled yet?
so it's time already .. "tie" and plunge into reality !!!

[supertiger21]

The helicopter is excellent, and every machine has "childhood illnesses". This is not a reason to attack the successes of the reviving Russian military-industrial complex with negative comments.

[VAF]

Quote: supertiger21

This is not a reason to attack with negative comments.

Where did you see NEGATIVE? Here is "riding on the ears", this is just from this series, but at the expense of "childhood illnesses" .. I advise you to get acquainted with the conclusions of the commission to investigate the Ka-52 accident on the Kamov LIK ... "childhood diseases"

Quote: supertiger21

on the successes of the resurgent Russian defense industry.

Read less Manturov ... especially at night .... then you will not climb high and ... landing on the ass..opu (in reality) will not be so painful "

Quote: supertiger21

Great helicopter

A good helicopter ... who argues?

[dmitrij.blyuz]

Sergei! Something you whipped up the 52nd at the most you can’t. It became already unpleasant. Is the car "killed" to such an extent? It seems like in Arsenyev they talk about her differently. I saw them (52nd) on tests. Impressions cannot be described. The techie himself. From the height of a techie I write. Since that.

[VAF]

Quote: dmitrij.blyuz

Something you whipped 52nd most can not.

Yes, I just can’t when the people ... for b..lo

Quote: dmitrij.blyuz

Is the car really "killed" to such an extent?

Why "killed"? A normal helicopter for performing certain and specific tasks, but not in the same way as it is positioned here on the site "uryakalki".

I really didn’t like the cause of the accident, voiced officially .. it's the CLEAREST CPN ... the traction can not withstand the load, but this is a designer-durable ....
We write about everything and on the su-35S the same , only then .. "pathetic excuses" in the form of ... additional control tests party fighters. already officially adopted
This is where to drive it so ????
I saw him more than once and ... pretty close
A good car, with the advantage of a coaxial circuit, with all the consequences, but no more! +!

[dmitrij.blyuz]

Unfortunately, you are right. The accident history of the 52nd is not sticking. I agree with you. And about the fighter, too.

[EvilLion]

Well, go and complain to the PR people. Can't handle the thrust? Well, it happens, like it or not, they will treat. Su-35 now would still be sitting in the sliders in the FACE, but there is nowhere to go, Soviet-built cars are written off. And when choosing between hurray-patriots and hurray-alarmists, I will choose the first, they will at least try to do something, and the second, if something happens, immediately paws up. We programmers have a saying: "The last error in a program is discovered 7 years after the start of its operation", so there is no need for "pathetic excuses". And to write that the UG car and with it no one will be full of glitches, the bourgeoisie, even those that do not exist in metal, are in full swing.

I have doubted your identity more than once, on sdelanounas.ru there was also one expert with the nickname MiG-42, who knows how to lie quite subtly, since you can look through the network for data on any issue, you can always teach it the way you want.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

Eh. Specify. Isn't there a stone in my garden? Well, it happens, Ohrenenno! When was that? During the entire operation of the Mi-8, there has never been a destruction of the rods. What the strengthists develop, they also develop with "+". It is necessary to try to destroy the thrust. This is not an aluminum wire. Here the designers are going to save the life of the crew.

[EvilLion]

It was about the Ka-52, until the last crash, no one complained about his traction either. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to design a machine absolutely accurately and calculate its life cycle.

[igor67]

Quote: EvilLion

It was about the Ka-52, until the last crash, no one complained about his traction either. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to design a machine absolutely accurately and calculate its life cycle.

What? For example, before setting the control cables, in the tail boom, a mandatory check for tearing, and the cables from the repair kits were torn, the quality is nowhere lower

[edeligor]

Quote: EvilLion

Su-35 would now still be in the sliders in FACE

I agree with your main idea, but still ... about 35 you are bent!

[EvilLion]

Well, what do we have with the Su-35 now? All built cars will be finalized. I read that copies of the 2012 year have already flown to the factory. And this is money. If we had a mass of Su-27M produced in the 90, we would have been spared these expenses, we would not have had to order a plane a year after the first flight.

[viktorR]

Sergey in his repertoire))). He's just critical of everything. But when he writes that in Russia, something turned out "not bad" or "okay", we can assume that it turned out to be a wunderwaffe!

[VAF]

Quote: viktorR

... But when he writes that in Russia, something turned out "not bad" or "okay", we can assume that it turned out to be a wunderwaffe!

And we should do so (which, by the way, is being done) that would be really , then .. and fight calmer. +
But as long as we have “protection and nepotism” in "honor" then we will receive the type of "Bulava" or "Whirlwind" instead of Hermes.
But the "adversary" launches JASD on the Apache with D launch 16 km, and ours all "by the ears" of the Whirlwind attracts ...
It would be a long time ago already to the C-13 and C-24 "smart" heads "attached" (the same theme with .. "beard", but .. everything flew on

[EvilLion]

Have you forgotten the management system? And then the head, this is a sensor, but you also need a performing element.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

You: Sergey

[dmitrij.blyuz]

This is great.

[sasha127]

Dear, it’s possible to be more precise, past which the Ka-52 flew with a bang in LE Bourget. As far as I know, then the organizers of the LE Bourget air show, without explaining the reasons, postponed the departure of the Russian Ka-52 helicopter. The crew of which was planning to make a demonstration program. That's all.

[VAF]

Quote: sasha127

, but it can be more precise, past which the Ka-52 flew with a bang in LE Bourget.

Google to the rescue or any other search engine- Results of the air show
And by the way, ask how many "French" ones were sold
Well, for one thing .. a fresh little salon-BIAS-2014 (this is in Bahrain)
Something neither -articles, and even more so "squeals -... otov" is not heard
Or already that ... except for .... the slogans "unparalleled in the world" have nothing to imagine?

[viktorR]

You send everyone to Google ... If you are such a fighter for the truth, well, tell it in detail, do not have slogans about "stubs" and "Wishlist". And then you yourself urge not to listen to the slogans of the hurray-patriots and right there, you yourself brandish the slogans. And if you ask you a little, then you immediately send it to Google. Some kind of double standards.
I am not trying to offend you or trample on your authority, I know that you know a lot, so to speak, from "first hand". So, do not hesitate, be kinder to the same "hurray-patriots", as you call them, do not enter into confrontation, but kindly tell them how they are.

[VAF]

Quote: viktorR

You send all of you to Google ...

Not ... not all and not always .. it’s just snowed in these three days, that .. I just can’t

Quote: viktorR

If you are such a fighter for the truth, well, tell it in detail, do not use slogans about "stubs" and "Wishlist"

Nizya from February 1, the one "who ... is not with them ...." is already ... "extrimist"

Quote: viktorR

be kinder to the same "hurray-patriots", as you call them, do not enter into confrontation, but kindly tell them how it is.

Yes, let them live in good health and enjoy .. "happiness"

So I honestly rejoice, because military hardening remained ... always in the house there was a bag of flour, a bag of sugar. salt. Makaroshkov. buckwheat (he loves dogs very much), 2-3 boxes of stewed meat and two boxes of saury, tea. coffee ... all ... two or three weeks can in complete isolation.
We are now having a cataclysm ... you understand, although the meteo warned in advance, but ... for the first day I dragged my neighbors out of the snowdrifts, and on the second day I couldn't, because there are limits for my "tank"
But I’m not even approaching the gate now, because snow under the fence, just like in Alykel
And the neighbors-poor-la-la.oy.a how about the store, and on to me ... neighing all the time.

[viktorR]

Wow ... Well, you hold on there. In the south we can’t see so much snow). The second time, snow fell over the winter. And then almost everything has melted already. Although at night minus. Well, not minus 25 somewhere minus 3-4

[edeligor]

Nice to read the comments of a knowledgeable person!

[sub307]

Stubs? Which and where specifically?

[Max_Bauder]

Apache just wound brand

[raptor1975]

The helicopter is excellent, the photo is super, another thing is not clear: why Russian helicopters lose all APAChu export tenders (examples INDIA, IRAQ)

[malikszh]

Damn how beautiful it is!

[Prapor-527]

This is really BEAUTIFUL !!! a machine it’s a pity that history is already ...

[wanderer_032]

By the way, the story also does not interfere.
Helicopters are just beginning:

[wanderer_032]

And a bit more:

[Ivan79]

What? Apache? No, we don’t know ... KA-52 !!!

[Baton]

How much, nevertheless, military equipment is more beautiful than any civilian!
Super Photo!

[just exp]

if there were more of them, they would have solved the problems with the new ATGMs.

[Gost]

Handsome man created to kill.

[Brother]

Created to protect (and clear )!

[bazilio]

Great photos, great helicopter.
It would be interesting to read about a detailed comparison of the Ka-52 and Apache. It seems to me Apache will lose in many ways

[0255]

since they are full on the Internet, it remains only to write the corresponding request in the search engine.

[supertiger21]

Quote: bazilio

detailed comparison of the Ka-52 and Apache.

It is more correct to compare the Russian Mi-64 with the AN-28 Apache.

[Igor39]

It wouldn’t be a bad thing for him to have an over-the-radar radar, and as a formidable car, the engines are well spaced and the gas output is well done, otherwise on the Mi 8 and Mi 24 vehicles they were washed up.

[Wiruz]

Here, too, turned out well. I just want to call not the Alligator but the Black Shark.

[Kasym]

Very subtle remark. Even Mikheev (general.) Insisted on a single-seat Ka-50. But all bureaucrats wanted a double. And now, please Ka-52. It's a pity . The coaxial design speaks the future. But it’s not clear when they will bring the Ka-52 to mind.

[Wiruz]

I dare to partially disagree with you. The Ka-50 is undoubtedly a legendary helicopter, which has left its mark on the world practice of helicopter engineering, despite the fact that less than 20 units like it were produced, but ... it’s not convenient to fly such a colossus alone, especially in close combat. In my opinion, the Ka-50 should have been made double at once.
But I admit that the Ka-50 is much more beautiful, but the "Black Shark" sounds better than the "Alligator".

[edeligor]

With all due respect, I disagree with you. A pilot cannot drive a fire while driving a car. For comparison, try smoking in your car, talking on the phone and looking in the glove compartment for rights at a speed of 130 km / h. on the winter road. Helicopter pilots will support me.

[Kasym]

You can argue for a long time on this topic. I see the advantage in the payload - co-pilot + all devices + catapults. armchair . Decent weight and the place is not small. And about one pilot + 4 processors to help + easier piloting on a coaxial scheme. And another argument: the Su-25 (attack aircraft) is also with one pilot and the speed will be higher. Tests in Chechnya also showed the possibilities with one pilot. Yes, and the Ka-50 will be cheaper.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: edeligor

With all due respect, I disagree with you. A pilot cannot drive a fire while driving a car.

Tell it to pilots-veterans of the Il-2 will be laughed at and called again by handshake.
And what do the shtriovik pilots do on the Su-25?
It would be better to deliver the Ka-50 to the troops.

[andru_007]

Very beautiful bird !!!! After all, we can when we want ...

[slavik_gross]

That Ka 52 need more in the Air Force !!!

[a.hamster55]

It would be better to reduce the noise, otherwise all begin to hide behind 3 versts.

[Sirop]

So this was done on purpose, so that everyone would hide and shake with fear, putting it in his pants)))) !!!

[Leshka]

beautiful helicopter

[Pacifist]

Well, at least today in Zhukovsky everything is in the snow, so the heels do not converge with the head
And yes, a beautiful car!

[saag]

Here is this thing, in my opinion the best car in the world, why there is no civilian version, I sat down and went :-)

[Veter]

Took this series of shots today in Zhukovsky

Apparently there is no winter in Zhukovsky? Or is snow cleared to the ground?

[VAF]

Quote: Veter

Apparently there is no winter in Zhukovsky? Or is snow cleared to the ground?

There is winter, that's just a helicopter ... no, that's why the next "Wishlist" was placed, to raise the "tone"

[Veter]

Quote: vaf

that's just a helicopter ... no

And where are you then? So much in the news they talked about buildings.

[VAF]

Quote: Veter

And where are you then? So much in the news they talked about buildings.

The term "combat" ... "self-destructed" somewhere. And the helicopter itself, that is, while everything else is still in the "process" and the new OPES (like Strix's) and the future of the UO in the form of ... oversized models ... are still far ahead.
so "throwing caps in the air" .. in reality is postponed. Unfortunately

[viktorR]

But what about what has already been transferred to the troops? What then them again to the factory and change MGM to a real avionics?

[supertiger21]

Quote: vaf

There is winter, that's just a helicopter ... no, that's why the next "Wishlist" was placed, to raise the "tone"

May rejoice too early, but to be a pessimist is not good!

[VAF]

Quote: supertiger21

but being a pessimist is not good!

A realist? It's good on the couch behind the keyboard ... "urya.we get up off our knees, get up, etc.", but how can we fight on this ...... huh? did not ask a question?
In my memory, that just not "tied" to the Ka-52'm. even "Attack", that's the truth for some reason "Rainbow" on it and ... did not smell

We will also be on .. "the revival of the military-industrial complex" or .. wait a little

[supertiger21]

Quote: vaf

A realist?

They need to be!

Quote: vaf

We will also be on .. "the revival of the military-industrial complex" or .. wait a little

Nobody says that everything will be reborn quickly. It takes time and the process is already underway. Su-34, for example, already has 46 units and the first of 5 air regiments has been created. The same process goes with other samples of military equipment . So the revival of the military-industrial complex is a reality.

[VAF]

Quote: supertiger21

. This takes time, and the process is already underway.

It’s hard to disagree, +! Especially if we compare the earlier "years" of "reign" and "successful reform"

Quote: supertiger21

.Su-34, for example, there are already 46 units and the first of 5 air regiments has been created

Only as advice read less "doneunas" ... they have "the grass is too thick" .. you can see how it puffs, then right away .. "it seems 2 starts
And so, just in case ... the Su-34 .. what year is this development?

Quote: supertiger21

The same process goes with other models of military equipment.

Yes Yes. boats without missiles, T-72 tanks, all the same Grads, ships without air defense, etc.

Quote: supertiger21

. So the revival of the military-industrial complex is a reality.

Still .. such grandmothers "master" ... modernizing the old Soviet groundwork

[ed65b]

lean, cunning and deadly. Go Russia. The beauty.

[servant.]

Cool photos, super helicopter! The main thing is more of such devices!

[shkil2010]

The car, of course, is cool! Only the blue harnesses behind the pylons confuse - the tasks of the 52nd will most likely include work on the battlefield, and this is the threat of damage by both a stray bullet and fragments. Is there really no other way out, well, at least covered with something ...

[Apollo]

quote-I took this series of pictures today in Zhukovsky. Hit of the season: the Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter.

[lestad]

so many buttons and indicators never master them

[wanderer_032]

Car class !!!
In childhood, at one time I was directly in a fever before I wanted to fly, though on the predecessor KA-50.
KA-52 is Hi-Tech embodied, the machine has become even better thanks to its advanced features.
By adding another pilot to the crew and equipping the car with new on-board equipment with multi-function displays, the designers made this helicopter even more perfect and easy to fly.
I say this because my childhood dream came true a little thanks to the simulator game about KA-50 and I still managed to fly on it (even to fight ), which gave me a more expanded concept of this machine.

[VAF]

Quote: wanderer_032

Adding another pilot to the crew

While the navigator flies there for the passenger and he has one "navigation" no more.

[wanderer_032]

About the new on-board optoelectronic detection and guidance complex (about its state of production), as well as missile weapons for it, I already understood after reading your comments.
I have only one opinion on this subject, the one who interferes and creates all kinds of problems in the way of its production, the speedy introduction of troops into the troops and training in its use and maintenance of helicopter personnel is either an enemy or a traitor and deserves a good pendal at the door. pull, so that he kept his filthy hands away from our aviation.

[wanderer_032]

I want to say to the minusoers that I wrote my comment about the flight characteristics of the helicopter itself and did not know that the new airborne weapons system is still under big questions in connection with some tyagomotin in the upper circles of the bureaucracy and other prokhindyev that prevent it from being launched into production and entering our valiant Air Force

[VAF]

Quote: shkil2010

Confuse only the blue tows for the pylons

Because this is "BUTAFORIA" and there is no OMS there !!! Even for another pylon ... there were not enough "blue harnesses"
In general, a badly prepared "hat2, but for a" people "it will do ...

[Pimply]

I’m still interested in guided missiles - what’s the matter with them? It seems recently was not very

[VAF]

Quote: Pimply

It seems recently was not very

Hi Zhenya! Unfortunately, everything is at the same level Everything is exactly the same as with the "Bulava" ..... (sea missiles are engaged in by the landowners). so here there is Izhmash, but Rogozin needs Izhtech .... and then ... "NPO High-Precision Systems and Technologies", and stating that .. it seems that everything is already there and so on. but in fact ... okay ... wait, sir

[SPACE]

Quote: vaf

Because this is "BUTAFORIA" and there is no OMS there !!!

Quote: vaf

While the navigator flies there for the passenger and he has one "navigation" no more.

Quote: vaf

Yes Yes. boats without missiles, T-72 tanks, all the same Grads, ships without air defense, etc.

Quote: vaf

We will also be on .. "the revival of the military-industrial complex" or .. wait a little

And they make it and it flies for a props, and the cabin is stuffed with devices for bulds and PNK stations and radars are not working toys! Well, of course, he shoots nurses into the void, for a spectacular Chinese fireworks and a gun to nowhere!
Waf, you funny little man ...

Quote: vaf

By "ear riding". Dear

Quote: vaf

A realist? It's good on the couch behind the keyboard ... "urya. Get up off our knees, get up, etc.

Like an adult ... but in fact a sandbox
Do you have doubts in the mind of the designers that Mace, Whirlwind and Armata will be brought to mind? Nursam, pounding a gun, a couple of hundred terrorists will stop, what's wrong? Or do you, any day, wait for the Chinese Blitzkrieg? Unlike you, I know and believe in people that in Russia, in addition to you, there are other people who are really smart and most importantly thinking and doing. To whom and what do you want to prove with your reality? That's interesting, what will you say when the Mace and Whirlwind fly in? and then what will be the use of your past reality? Although you don’t have to bother, it’s all clear why you are doing this ... they say stupidity can only beautify a woman, and stubbornness can be a horse ...

[beard999]

Quote: Pimply

It seems recently was not very

And what is “not very,” actually? Ka-52 with guided missiles has always been. So far, with the 9K113U Sturm-VU ATGM with 9M120-1, 9M120-1F, 9M120-1F-1 missiles. TsAST assures that the complex and serial missiles were supplied for all Ka-52 aircraft. You can ask them yourself. Now the Kalashnikov concern is fulfilling an order for 13 billion rubles. for the supply of 9-A-4172, PTRK 9K121M Vikhr-M missiles. The first batch for testing was made at the end of last year. http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130806/954673783.html.
Work is underway for the future. Ten days ago they said at KBP that they were continuing to work on the Klevok / Hermes CWP http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php/ru/home/127-russkij/novosti/aktualnaya-informats
iya / 301-visit-prezidenta-20-01-2014. At the level of “rumors” from the VIF, similar operations for equipping helicopters with promising ATGMs are also carried out by the KBM.

[Crang]

ATGM 9K121M "Vikhr-M" originally stood on the Ka-50 "Black Shark" in the 80s.

[VAF]

Quote: Krang

ATGM 9K121M "Vikhr-M" originally stood on the Ka-50 "Black Shark" in the 80s.

By "ear riding". Dear ... this is not with me
This is there .. the full site of "uryakalok" ... this is for them and there .. as far as it will fit

On the Ka-50, the 9K121 "Vikhr" complex, the 9A4172 "Vikhr" rocket was originally installed on the Ka-50 and was put into trial operation on the Ka-1992 at the end of XNUMX

The complex that you are trying to talk about, i.e. complex 9K121M "Vikhr-M", rocket 9A4172K "Vikhr-1" at that time was only in the stage of ...

At the same time, for some reason, you are missing the moment that for those "Whirlwinds", even the Shipunovskys, the agro-industrial complex "Shkval-V" and the PNK "Orbit-20" were also needed, neither one nor the other has been produced for 15 years.

[beard999]

Quote: Krang

ATGM 9K121M "Vikhr-M" originally stood on the Ka-50 "Black Shark" in the 80s.

In the 80s. on the Ka-50 was the Vikhr KUV along with the I-251V Shkval complex. Large-scale production is not Ka-50, KUV "Whirlwind" has never been. Now on the Ka-52, as part of the SUO-806P, the Blik and the MSVI Okhotnik are used, which give the Vikhr-M new capabilities, for example: simultaneous shelling of 2 targets, launch of 2 missiles at one target in one beam (including to overcome KAZ), the ability to enter a rocket into the beam at the final section of the trajectory with the possibility of automatic maneuvering and bypassing areas with poor visibility ...
By the way, the same Americans use AGM-114K "Hellfire II" missiles (in service since 1991) with a cumulative warhead and AGM-114R "Hellfire Romeo" with a multifunctional warhead in their helicopters. Both missiles with semi-active laser seeker. And that is characteristic, nobody there cries about this.

[VAF]

Quote: vaf

Because this is "BUTAFORIA" and there is no OMS there !!!

If. Dear "uryapatriots-m inusery" as a result of your minuses on the Ka-52, Whirlwinds, and even better Hermes ...

But for now ... Aligator, that is ... only he has teeth ... and with such a "attitude" of "interested persons" still will not be very long.

[supertiger21]

Quote: vaf

dear "uryapatriots-m inusery"

vaf I ask you not to associate the word patriot с "uryakalkami".A patriot is the one who really loves his Motherland and is ready to defend it. And "uryakalki" are those whom you mean.

[VAF]

Quote: supertiger21

I ask you to

Got it, +! I'll just ... " -guns "

[supertiger21]

Quote: vaf

Got it, +! I'll just ... " -guns "

That's good!

[wanderer_032]

Quote: vaf

But for now ... Aligator, that is ... only he has teeth ... and with such a "attitude" of "interested persons"

Quote: vaf

still will not be very long.

Sad to hear about it Although yes, I recall this.
I want to ask everything why the MO decided to call MI-28?
After all, the Kama machine is much better in flight performance and damage resistance is also higher for the KA-50 (52).
What's the matter?
I just haven’t been interested in helicopter topics for a long time, I mostly come off on armored vehicles.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

Wanderer! MO orders (and buys) both the Mi-28 and the ka52. The Ka-52 go like managing the Bears. So everything is fine!

[wanderer_032]

Then another question.
And why do not form units (squadrons, regiments) with a uniform composition of machines, why such a discrepancy?

[Stasi]

The helicopter is great! It's a pity that the troops will receive only a few units of such a helicopter. The reason is that the priority is given to the MI-28N helicopter, the "Night Hunter". It is such a helicopter that should replace the Crocodiles, not the KA-52 Alligator.

[ed65b]

I do not know in my opinion "Crocodile" cannot be replaced. It fulfills its function by 150% and will work for the benefit of the Motherland for a long time.

[Russ69]

Quote: Stasi

! It’s a pity that only a few units of such a helicopter will enter the troops.

Not units, but already dozens, by 2020, like 140 will be. Plus on the way, the deck version, they are also planning to purchase several dozen.

[Wiruz]

Does it seem to me alone that his gun is somehow uncomfortably located? Mi-28H seems to be better.

[lestad]

Yes, I noticed the same thing. It seems to me that it should be more mobile, and not turn the entire body

[SPACE]

Quote: Wiruz

Does it seem to me alone that his gun is somehow uncomfortably located? Mi-28H seems to be better.

Quote: lestad

Yes, I noticed the same thing. It seems to me that it should be more mobile, and not turn the entire body

The gun is not weak return, and shoot it on 28, the further across the course, either accuracy or rate of fire is not.

[viktorR]

On the contrary, his gun is better located than the 28th. It is located almost in the center of mass, because of this the accuracy is higher than 28. Another thing is that it is less mobile, but in my opinion it is not as critical as a heap, the helicopter still works from ambush

[supertiger21]

Excellent photos, more of these helicopters. I put the article "+".

[spirit]

Good! Often began to fly along the Moscow Ring Road! already seen several times)

[saag]

the gun is located normally, it is in the MI-28N it is in the vibro-loaded part of the fuselage, all the same, in most cases, directional shooting. it is unlikely that someone will shoot sideways, will wrap them around the axis of the screw in return

[Crang]

This Ka-52 "Alligator" is a good machine, although, according to the pilots, the coolest in this topic was the Ka-50 "Black Shark". From him fans. Although for me personally and for a significant part of the pilots, the Mi-24 Krokodil was and remains a model of helicopter technology.

[Max_Damage]

And what about his whirlwind?

[Crang]

Quote: Max_Damage

And what about his whirlwind?

The latest modifications of the Mi-24, which were created, could carry both the Vortex-M and Attack-V and even the Igla-V, Sosna-V, and R-64V air-to-air missiles.
For example, the Mi-24VP-M, Mi-24VP-I, not only have a much superior OPS Mi-35M2, the main aiming system GOES-342, but also OEPS-27, an identical passive infrared locator with an RL-range finder, which stood on the early Su-27s, detecting in the sector ± 30 at the heading a small-sized, low-emitting aerial target up to 37 km, ground-based, class “cold tank” - from 14 km. According to the glider, Rostov combat helicopters (both modernized and new) have a shortened wing with 4 (instead of two) suspension points, on two of which are the R-64V - fifth generation generation adapted for helicopters capable of shooting down approaching near-sound fighter on heading over 20 km, as well as 4 Sosna-V under APU-4 Ataka (for comparison, Igla MANPADS, which are equipped with the Mi-24VM, capture the approaching fighter from 2500-3200 m, and hypersonic missiles "Pine" - up to 14 km. Nevertheless, and "Igla-S" is part of the armament of Mi-24VK and Mi-24VP-M).
Such a machine (by the way, retaining the retractable landing gear and long fenders with tips) will easily cover the Apache, the Ka-52 with the Mi-28, or the Comanch.

[nnz226]

More "Alligators" good and different! To the Russian army!

[moremansf]

Well, in the Navy, they will come in handy !!!!!!

[a.hamster55]

Sensation! Urgently send a team of doctors! The inhabitants of Torzhok have massive glitches - it seems to everyone that the Ka-52 flies among the rest (Mi-24, Mi-35, Mi-8, Mi-26, Mi-28), and it turns out to be NO.

[pawel57]

I wonder what is there with an overlap of screws? Is it fixed or does it happen under certain conditions?

[dmitrij.blyuz]

The Ka-50 suffered a disaster due to an overlap of the propellers in 92. At present, the problem of overlap has been eliminated. The helicopter can fly in supercritical modes, including performing "barrel", "looping".

[dmitrij.blyuz]

http://www.balancer.ru/g/p2513511 Минусовщики-проблемы в чем?

[dmitrij.blyuz]

I don’t seem to see an adequate answer. But on helicopters, you don’t have to play with me. If you are minus (though I’m on the drum), please explain.

[Crang]

What exactly do you explain? Ka-52 for the fleet and limited to the army. Mi-24 and Mi-28 for the ground forces.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

The Ka-52 was created and is currently used as a command board. It is the "brain" for a flock of Mi-28-x. The Ka-52 itself has powerful armament and an on-board computer capable of bringing the vehicle to its base without a crew. 52 showed him, practically, fantastic abilities. That is why this machine will go to the mainland and the navy.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: dmitrij.blyuz

I don’t seem to see an adequate answer. But on helicopters, you don’t have to play with me. If you are minus (though I’m on the drum), please explain.

Minusists never explain their minuses because they do not know (not in the subject), out of harm, just do not like it.

[Zomanus]

Good car. But its full potential is revealed when working in a flock of black sharks, as a control and target designation machine. But there are no black sharks, so ...

[Savl]

If you look from the face, then nifiga he is not an Alligator, he is a Mi (KA) joke.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

The face of the helicopter’s face is the kindest. Unlike the Ka-50, it looked more aggressive.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

Quote: igor67

Quote: EvilLion

It was about the Ka-52, until the last crash, no one complained about his traction either. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to design a machine absolutely accurately and calculate its life cycle.

What? For example, before setting the control cables, in the tail boom, a mandatory check for tearing, and the cables from the repair kits were torn, the quality is nowhere lower

Igor! How familiar. Especially in the 90s. We, spitting on all the instructions, left the old cables. Even the chains were left on the screw in violation of all the rules. On top of the cloud you can't catch on, you can't sit on the side of the road. Although, whoever had a Volga, they put these chains on their engines. They don't have wear and tear. To technicians, we are the best .But pilots are our concern.

[Prapor-527]

Quote: bazilio

Great photos, great helicopter.
It would be interesting to read about a detailed comparison of the Ka-52 and Apache. It seems to me Apache will lose in many ways

And the Ka-52 has nothing to compare with yet ... If only the "Professor" gives out something ... like "having no analog FF" ...