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Hit of the season: Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter

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Made this series of shots today in Zhukovsky. Hit of the season: Ka-52 "Alligator" attack helicopter.







































Hit of the season: Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter







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  1. smart ass
    smart ass 31 January 2014 08: 44 New
    19
    Great photos, thanks!
    1. Skiff
      Skiff 31 January 2014 09: 34 New
      +5
      He is deadly beautiful, but I don’t understand why so many ovsk letters were written on him.
      1. Roman A
        Roman A 31 January 2014 10: 41 New
        +6
        Quote: Skiff
        He is deadly beautiful, but I don’t understand why so many ovsk letters were written on him.

        So I don’t understand that there is no Latin alphabet, so "Whirlwind-1" is spelled correctly
        BEAUTY terrible power
        1. BIGLESHIY
          BIGLESHIY 1 February 2014 10: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Roman A
          Quote: Skiff
          He is deadly beautiful, but I don’t understand why so many ovsk letters were written on him.

          So I don’t understand that there is no Latin alphabet, so "Whirlwind-1" is spelled correctly
          BEAUTY terrible power

          Did you notice the Rosoboronexport sticker? This helicopter for sale over the hill is most likely.
          1. Roman A
            Roman A 1 February 2014 11: 29 New
            0
            Did you notice the Rosoboronexport sticker? Most likely this helicopter for sale over a hill. [/ Quote]
            And on foreign equipment for sale in Cyrillic they write
          2. BIGLESHIY
            BIGLESHIY 2 February 2014 06: 00 New
            +1
            Well, minus then for what?
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 2 February 2014 06: 03 New
              +2
              Quote: BIGLESHIY
              Well, minus then for what?

              Yes there is nothing request And for what fellow That would not relax, here you are not here negative Hold + Then give wassat
      2. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 31 January 2014 13: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Skiff
        Deadly handsome

        Beautiful car, no questions. But combat capabilities raise doubts about guided weapons.
        1. I think so
          I think so 31 January 2014 16: 09 New
          0
          The helicopter itself and its flight data in the modern world play a secondary role ... the system’s ability depends on the weapons attached to it, weapon control systems, search and surveillance systems ... If the weapon systems are effective, then hanging them on a corn box will be a powerful machine ... This product just lacks effective and reliable weapon systems ... unless they ever appear ...
        2. edeligor
          edeligor 31 January 2014 20: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: Vovka Levka
          But combat capabilities raise doubts about guided weapons.

          Critic damn !!! If you admire the machine, do not forget that this is only a platform for placing weapons! Further explain ?!
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 1 February 2014 00: 51 New
            -2
            Quote: edeligor

            Critic damn !!! If you admire the machine, do not forget that this is only a platform for placing weapons! Further explain ?!

            Explain? What for?
            Often had to see and hear bravura speech and see reality. The helicopter enters the troops, and he is a sire in the field of guided weapons. Of course, you can fight with the Papuans, but if God forbid something more serious? Or does the country need heroes, but the heroes we left as usual?
  2. invisibility
    invisibility 31 January 2014 08: 46 New
    +2
    Flying tank!
    We have always been leaders in helicopter engineering. Do not give anyone a chance to get closer!
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 31 January 2014 10: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: invisible
      Flying tank!
      We have always been leaders in helicopter engineering. Do not give anyone a chance to get closer!

      rather not a tank for a tank, we have another contender, not even a contender, but a specific "tank" It is rather a deadly hunter for any animal.
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      2. invisibility
        invisibility 31 January 2014 11: 32 New
        +2
        Right! The main thing is that all applicants should be ours!
    2. raptor1975
      raptor1975 31 January 2014 11: 54 New
      +1
      The helicopter is excellent, the photo is super, another thing is not clear: why Russian helicopters lose all APAChu export tenders (examples INDIA, IRAQ)
      1. VAF
        VAF 31 January 2014 12: 16 New
        +7
        Quote: raptor1975
        The helicopter is excellent, the photo is super, another thing is not clear: why


        Because this is not yet a combat helicopter, but a "Wishlist"!
        Photo, by the way, from MAX. The machine is an experimental flying stand of the OKB, prepared for Le Bourget (where, by the way, he flew past everything with a bang!) crying
        An empty flying box with a minimum amount of avionics (really no one sees, everywhere are stubs request ) not even ejected seats ???
        Or the photo of "tethered Whirlwinds" clouded everything wassat ??
        Or maybe the New Year's "festive foam" hasn't settled yet?
        so it's time already .. "tie" and plunge into reality !!! soldier
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 31 January 2014 13: 40 New
          0
          The helicopter is excellent, and every machine has "childhood illnesses". This is not a reason to attack the successes of the reviving Russian military-industrial complex with negative comments.
          1. VAF
            VAF 31 January 2014 13: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: supertiger21
            This is not a reason to attack with negative comments.


            Where did you see NEGATIVE? belay Here is "riding on the ears", this is just from this series, but at the expense of "childhood illnesses" .. I advise you to get acquainted with the conclusions of the commission to investigate the Ka-52 accident on the Kamov LIK ... "childhood diseases" soldier

            Quote: supertiger21
            on the successes of the resurgent Russian defense industry.


            Read less Manturov ... especially at night .... then you will not climb high and ... landing on the ass..opu (in reality) will not be so painful " soldier

            Quote: supertiger21
            Great helicopter


            A good helicopter ... who argues? request

            1. dmitrij.blyuz
              dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 17: 49 New
              +3
              Sergei! hi Something you whipped up the 52nd at the most you can’t. It became already unpleasant. Is the car "killed" to such an extent? It seems like in Arsenyev they talk about her differently. I saw them (52nd) on tests. Impressions cannot be described. The techie himself. From the height of a techie I write. Since that.
              1. VAF
                VAF 31 January 2014 18: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
                Something you whipped 52nd most can not.


                Yes, I just can’t when the people ... for b..lo soldier

                Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
                Is the car really "killed" to such an extent?


                Why "killed"? A normal helicopter for performing certain and specific tasks, but not in the same way as it is positioned here on the site "uryakalki".

                I really didn’t like the cause of the accident, voiced officially .. it's the CLEAREST CPN ... the traction can not withstand the load, but this is a designer-durable .... recourse
                We write about everything fellow and on the su-35S the same fellow , only then .. "pathetic excuses" in the form of ... additional control tests belayparty fighters. already officially adopted wassat
                This is where to drive it so ???? am
                I saw him more than once and ... pretty close bully
                A good car, with the advantage of a coaxial circuit, with all the consequences, but no more! soldier +! drinks
                1. dmitrij.blyuz
                  dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 18: 18 New
                  +2
                  drinks Unfortunately, you are right. The accident history of the 52nd is not sticking. I agree with you. hiAnd about the fighter, too. crying
                2. EvilLion
                  EvilLion 31 January 2014 18: 25 New
                  +4
                  Well, go and complain to the PR people. Can't handle the thrust? Well, it happens, like it or not, they will treat. Su-35 now would still be sitting in the sliders in the FACE, but there is nowhere to go, Soviet-built cars are written off. And when choosing between hurray-patriots and hurray-alarmists, I will choose the first, they will at least try to do something, and the second, if something happens, immediately paws up. We programmers have a saying: "The last error in a program is discovered 7 years after the start of its operation", so there is no need for "pathetic excuses". And to write that the UG car and with it no one will be full of glitches, the bourgeoisie, even those that do not exist in metal, are in full swing.

                  I have doubted your identity more than once, on sdelanounas.ru there was also one expert with the nickname MiG-42, who knows how to lie quite subtly, since you can look through the network for data on any issue, you can always teach it the way you want.
                  1. dmitrij.blyuz
                    dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 18: 35 New
                    +1
                    Eh. Specify. Isn't there a stone in my garden? Well, it happens, Ohrenenno! When was that? During the entire operation of the Mi-8, there has never been a destruction of the rods. What the strengthists develop, they also develop with "+". It is necessary to try to destroy the thrust. This is not an aluminum wire. Here the designers are going to save the life of the crew.
                    1. EvilLion
                      EvilLion 31 January 2014 21: 24 New
                      -1
                      It was about the Ka-52, until the last crash, no one complained about his traction either. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to design a machine absolutely accurately and calculate its life cycle.
                      1. igor67
                        igor67 31 January 2014 22: 27 New
                        +5
                        Quote: EvilLion
                        It was about the Ka-52, until the last crash, no one complained about his traction either. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to design a machine absolutely accurately and calculate its life cycle.

                        What? For example, before setting the control cables, in the tail boom, a mandatory check for tearing, and the cables from the repair kits were torn, the quality is nowhere lower
                  2. edeligor
                    edeligor 31 January 2014 20: 07 New
                    0
                    Quote: EvilLion
                    Su-35 would now still be in the sliders in FACE

                    I agree with your main idea, but still ... about 35 you are bent!
                    1. EvilLion
                      EvilLion 31 January 2014 21: 27 New
                      0
                      Well, what do we have with the Su-35 now? All built cars will be finalized. I read that copies of the 2012 year have already flown to the factory. And this is money. If we had a mass of Su-27M produced in the 90, we would have been spared these expenses, we would not have had to order a plane a year after the first flight.
              2. viktorR
                viktorR 31 January 2014 18: 18 New
                +2
                Sergey in his repertoire))). He's just critical of everything. But when he writes that in Russia, something turned out "not bad" or "okay", we can assume that it turned out to be a wunderwaffe!
                1. VAF
                  VAF 31 January 2014 18: 33 New
                  +7
                  Quote: viktorR
                  ... But when he writes that in Russia, something turned out "not bad" or "okay", we can assume that it turned out to be a wunderwaffe!


                  And we should do so (which, by the way, is being done) that would be really good , then .. and fight calmer. + soldier
                  But as long as we have “protection and nepotism” in "honor" then we will receive the type of "Bulava" or "Whirlwind" instead of Hermes.
                  But the "adversary" launches JASD on the Apache with D launch 16 km, and ours all "by the ears" of the Whirlwind attracts ... request
                  It would be a long time ago already to the C-13 and C-24 "smart" heads "attached" (the same theme with .. "beard", but .. everything flew on good
                  1. EvilLion
                    EvilLion 31 January 2014 21: 19 New
                    -2
                    Have you forgotten the management system? And then the head, this is a sensor, but you also need a performing element.
                2. dmitrij.blyuz
                  dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 18: 38 New
                  +1
                  You: drinks Sergey good
                3. dmitrij.blyuz
                  dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 19: 09 New
                  0
                  This is great.
        2. sasha127
          sasha127 31 January 2014 16: 06 New
          0
          Dear, it’s possible to be more precise, past which the Ka-52 flew with a bang in LE Bourget. As far as I know, then the organizers of the LE Bourget air show, without explaining the reasons, postponed the departure of the Russian Ka-52 helicopter. The crew of which was planning to make a demonstration program. That's all.
          1. VAF
            VAF 31 January 2014 16: 41 New
            +4
            Quote: sasha127
            , but it can be more precise, past which the Ka-52 flew with a bang in LE Bourget.


            Google to the rescue wink or any other search engine- Results of the air show crying
            And by the way, ask how many "French" ones were sold wink
            Well, for one thing .. a fresh little salon-BIAS-2014 (this is in Bahrain) wink
            Something neither fellow -articles, and even more so "squeals -... otov" is not heard wassat
            Or already that ... except for .... the slogans "unparalleled in the world" have nothing to imagine? recourse
            1. viktorR
              viktorR 31 January 2014 17: 46 New
              +9
              You send everyone to Google ... If you are such a fighter for the truth, well, tell it in detail, do not have slogans about "stubs" and "Wishlist". And then you yourself urge not to listen to the slogans of the hurray-patriots and right there, you yourself brandish the slogans. And if you ask you a little, then you immediately send it to Google. Some kind of double standards.
              I am not trying to offend you or trample on your authority, I know that you know a lot, so to speak, from "first hand". So, do not hesitate, be kinder to the same "hurray-patriots", as you call them, do not enter into confrontation, but kindly tell them how they are.
              1. VAF
                VAF 31 January 2014 18: 20 New
                +3
                Quote: viktorR
                You send all of you to Google ...


                Not ... not all and not always .. it’s just snowed in these three days, that .. I just can’t request

                Quote: viktorR
                If you are such a fighter for the truth, well, tell it in detail, do not use slogans about "stubs" and "Wishlist"


                Nizya wassat from February 1, the one "who ... is not with them ...." is already ... "extrimist" wassat

                Quote: viktorR
                be kinder to the same "hurray-patriots", as you call them, do not enter into confrontation, but kindly tell them how it is.


                Yes, let them live in good health and enjoy .. "happiness" lol

                So I honestly rejoice, because military hardening remained ... always in the house there was a bag of flour, a bag of sugar. salt. Makaroshkov. buckwheat (he loves dogs very much), 2-3 boxes of stewed meat and two boxes of saury, tea. coffee ... all ... two or three weeks can in complete isolation.
                We are now having a cataclysm ... you understand, although the meteo warned in advance, but ... for the first day I dragged my neighbors out of the snowdrifts, and on the second day I couldn't, because there are limits for my "tank" recourse
                But I’m not even approaching the gate now, because snow under the fence, just like in Alykel wassat
                And the neighbors-poor-la-la.oy.a how about the store, and on to me ... neighing all the time.
                1. viktorR
                  viktorR 31 January 2014 20: 19 New
                  +1
                  Wow ... Well, you hold on there. In the south we can’t see so much snow). The second time, snow fell over the winter. And then almost everything has melted already. Although at night minus. Well, not minus 25 somewhere minus 3-4 wassat
        3. edeligor
          edeligor 31 January 2014 20: 04 New
          0
          Nice to read the comments of a knowledgeable person! good
        4. sub307
          sub307 1 February 2014 16: 42 New
          0
          Stubs? Which and where specifically?
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      2. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 31 January 2014 15: 35 New
        +1
        Apache just wound brand
    3. raptor1975
      raptor1975 31 January 2014 11: 54 New
      +1
      The helicopter is excellent, the photo is super, another thing is not clear: why Russian helicopters lose all APAChu export tenders (examples INDIA, IRAQ)
  3. malikszh
    malikszh 31 January 2014 08: 48 New
    +4
    Damn how beautiful it is!
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    2. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 31 January 2014 17: 54 New
      +6
      This is really BEAUTIFUL !!! a machine good it’s a pity that history is already ... crying
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 31 January 2014 21: 09 New
        +1
        By the way, the story also does not interfere.
        Helicopters are just beginning:
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 31 January 2014 21: 12 New
          0
          And a bit more:
  4. Ivan79
    Ivan79 31 January 2014 08: 48 New
    +5
    What? Apache? No, we don’t know ... KA-52 !!! smile
  5. Baton
    Baton 31 January 2014 08: 53 New
    +3
    How much, nevertheless, military equipment is more beautiful than any civilian!
    Super Photo!
  6. just exp
    just exp 31 January 2014 08: 58 New
    +2
    if there were more of them, they would have solved the problems with the new ATGMs.
  7. Gost
    Gost 31 January 2014 08: 59 New
    +2
    Handsome man created to kill.
    1. Brother
      Brother 31 January 2014 17: 00 New
      0
      Created to protect soldier(and clear yes)!
  8. bazilio
    bazilio 31 January 2014 09: 13 New
    0
    Great photos, great helicopter.
    It would be interesting to read about a detailed comparison of the Ka-52 and Apache. It seems to me Apache will lose in many ways
    1. 0255
      0255 31 January 2014 10: 20 New
      +1
      since they are full on the Internet, it remains only to write the corresponding request in the search engine.
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 31 January 2014 13: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: bazilio
      detailed comparison of the Ka-52 and Apache.


      It is more correct to compare the Russian Mi-64 with the AN-28 Apache.
  9. Igor39
    Igor39 31 January 2014 09: 16 New
    0
    It wouldn’t be a bad thing for him to have an over-the-radar radar, and as a formidable car, the engines are well spaced and the gas output is well done, otherwise on the Mi 8 and Mi 24 vehicles they were washed up.
  10. Wiruz
    Wiruz 31 January 2014 09: 19 New
    +3
    Here, too, turned out well. I just want to call not the Alligator but the Black Shark.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 31 January 2014 17: 16 New
      +2
      Very subtle remark. Even Mikheev (general.) Insisted on a single-seat Ka-50. But all bureaucrats wanted a double. And now, please Ka-52. It's a pity . The coaxial design speaks the future. But it’s not clear when they will bring the Ka-52 to mind.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 31 January 2014 19: 31 New
        +2
        I dare to partially disagree with you. The Ka-50 is undoubtedly a legendary helicopter, which has left its mark on the world practice of helicopter engineering, despite the fact that less than 20 units like it were produced, but ... it’s not convenient to fly such a colossus alone, especially in close combat. In my opinion, the Ka-50 should have been made double at once.
        But I admit that the Ka-50 is much more beautiful, but the "Black Shark" sounds better than the "Alligator". smile
      2. edeligor
        edeligor 31 January 2014 20: 14 New
        +1
        With all due respect, I disagree with you. A pilot cannot drive a fire while driving a car. For comparison, try smoking in your car, talking on the phone and looking in the glove compartment for rights at a speed of 130 km / h. on the winter road. Helicopter pilots will support me.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 1 February 2014 02: 31 New
          +3
          You can argue for a long time on this topic. I see the advantage in the payload - co-pilot + all devices + catapults. armchair . Decent weight and the place is not small. And about one pilot + 4 processors to help + easier piloting on a coaxial scheme. And another argument: the Su-25 (attack aircraft) is also with one pilot and the speed will be higher. Tests in Chechnya also showed the possibilities with one pilot. Yes, and the Ka-50 will be cheaper. hi
        2. BIGLESHIY
          BIGLESHIY 1 February 2014 12: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: edeligor
          With all due respect, I disagree with you. A pilot cannot drive a fire while driving a car.

          Tell it to pilots-veterans of the Il-2 will be laughed at and called again by handshake.
          And what do the shtriovik pilots do on the Su-25?
          It would be better to deliver the Ka-50 to the troops.
  11. andru_007
    andru_007 31 January 2014 09: 27 New
    0
    Very beautiful bird !!!! After all, we can when we want ...
  12. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 31 January 2014 09: 38 New
    +5
    That Ka 52 need more in the Air Force !!!
  13. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 31 January 2014 09: 41 New
    +5
    It would be better to reduce the noise, otherwise all begin to hide behind 3 versts.
    1. Sirop
      Sirop 31 January 2014 11: 27 New
      +1
      So this was done on purpose, so that everyone would hide and shake with fear, putting it in his pants)))) !!!
  14. Leshka
    Leshka 31 January 2014 10: 16 New
    +3
    beautiful helicopter
  15. Pacifist
    Pacifist 31 January 2014 10: 18 New
    +3
    Well, at least today in Zhukovsky everything is in the snow, so the heels do not converge with the head tongue
    And yes, a beautiful car!
  16. saag
    saag 31 January 2014 10: 24 New
    0
    Here is this thing, in my opinion the best car in the world, why there is no civilian version, I sat down and went :-)
  17. Veter
    Veter 31 January 2014 10: 28 New
    +2
    Took this series of shots today in Zhukovsky

    Apparently there is no winter in Zhukovsky? Or is snow cleared to the ground? laughing
    1. VAF
      VAF 31 January 2014 12: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Veter
      Apparently there is no winter in Zhukovsky? Or is snow cleared to the ground?


      There is winter, that's just a helicopter ... no, that's why the next "Wishlist" was placed, to raise the "tone" wassat
      1. Veter
        Veter 31 January 2014 12: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        that's just a helicopter ... no

        And where are you then? So much in the news they talked about buildings.
        1. VAF
          VAF 31 January 2014 13: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: Veter
          And where are you then? So much in the news they talked about buildings.


          The term "combat" ... "self-destructed" somewhere. And the helicopter itself, that is, while everything else is still in the "process" and the new OPES (like Strix's) and the future of the UO in the form of ... oversized models ... are still far ahead.
          so "throwing caps in the air" .. in reality is postponed. Unfortunately soldier

          1. viktorR
            viktorR 31 January 2014 17: 53 New
            +1
            But what about what has already been transferred to the troops? What then them again to the factory and change MGM to a real avionics?
      2. supertiger21
        supertiger21 31 January 2014 13: 48 New
        0
        Quote: vaf
        There is winter, that's just a helicopter ... no, that's why the next "Wishlist" was placed, to raise the "tone"


        May rejoice too early, but to be a pessimist is not good! negative
        1. VAF
          VAF 31 January 2014 14: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: supertiger21
          but being a pessimist is not good!


          A realist? wink It's good on the couch behind the keyboard ... "urya.we get up off our knees, get up, etc.", but how can we fight on this ...... huh? did not ask a question?
          In my memory, that just not "tied" to the Ka-52'm. even "Attack", that's the truth for some reason "Rainbow" on it and ... did not smell recourse



          We will also be on .. "the revival of the military-industrial complex" or .. wait a little wink
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 31 January 2014 16: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            A realist?


            They need to be!

            Quote: vaf
            We will also be on .. "the revival of the military-industrial complex" or .. wait a little


            Nobody says that everything will be reborn quickly. It takes time and the process is already underway. Su-34, for example, already has 46 units and the first of 5 air regiments has been created. The same process goes with other samples of military equipment . So the revival of the military-industrial complex is a reality.
            1. VAF
              VAF 31 January 2014 17: 53 New
              +6
              Quote: supertiger21
              . This takes time, and the process is already underway.


              It’s hard to disagree, +! drinks Especially if we compare the earlier "years" of "reign" and "successful reform" wassat

              Quote: supertiger21
              .Su-34, for example, there are already 46 units and the first of 5 air regiments has been created


              Only as advice hi read less "doneunas" ... they have "the grass is too thick" .. you can see how it puffs, then right away .. "it seems 2 starts wink
              And so, just in case ... the Su-34 .. what year is this development? wink

              Quote: supertiger21
              The same process goes with other models of military equipment.


              Yes Yes. boats without missiles, T-72 tanks, all the same Grads, ships without air defense, etc.

              Quote: supertiger21
              . So the revival of the military-industrial complex is a reality.


              Still .. such grandmothers "master" ... modernizing the old Soviet groundwork soldier
  18. ed65b
    ed65b 31 January 2014 11: 00 New
    +1
    lean, cunning and deadly. Go Russia. The beauty.
  19. servant.
    servant. 31 January 2014 11: 56 New
    +1
    Cool photos, super helicopter! The main thing is more of such devices!
  20. shkil2010
    shkil2010 31 January 2014 12: 05 New
    +3
    The car, of course, is cool! Only the blue harnesses behind the pylons confuse - the tasks of the 52nd will most likely include work on the battlefield, and this is the threat of damage by both a stray bullet and fragments. Is there really no other way out, well, at least covered with something ...
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 31 January 2014 12: 20 New
      +5
      quote-I took this series of pictures today in Zhukovsky. Hit of the season: the Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter.

      good good good
      1. lestad
        lestad 31 January 2014 15: 29 New
        +1
        so many buttons and indicators what never master them smile
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 31 January 2014 17: 31 New
        +1
        Car class !!! good good good
        In childhood, at one time I was directly in a fever before I wanted to fly, though on the predecessor KA-50.
        KA-52 is Hi-Tech embodied, the machine has become even better thanks to its advanced features.
        By adding another pilot to the crew and equipping the car with new on-board equipment with multi-function displays, the designers made this helicopter even more perfect and easy to fly.
        I say this because my childhood dream came true a little thanks to the simulator game about KA-50 and I still managed to fly on it (even to fight laughing ), which gave me a more expanded concept of this machine.
        1. VAF
          VAF 31 January 2014 18: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: wanderer_032
          Adding another pilot to the crew


          While the navigator flies there for the passenger and he has one "navigation" no more.
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 31 January 2014 18: 13 New
            +3
            About the new on-board optoelectronic detection and guidance complex (about its state of production), as well as missile weapons for it, I already understood after reading your comments.
            I have only one opinion on this subject, the one who interferes and creates all kinds of problems in the way of its production, the speedy introduction of troops into the troops and training in its use and maintenance of helicopter personnel is either an enemy or a traitor and deserves a good pendal at the door. pull, so that he kept his filthy hands away from our aviation. am
        2. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 31 January 2014 18: 25 New
          +2
          I want to say to the minusoers that I wrote my comment about the flight characteristics of the helicopter itself and did not know that the new airborne weapons system is still under big questions in connection with some tyagomotin in the upper circles of the bureaucracy and other prokhindyev that prevent it from being launched into production and entering our valiant Air Force
    2. VAF
      VAF 31 January 2014 12: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: shkil2010
      Confuse only the blue tows for the pylons


      Because this is "BUTAFORIA" and there is no OMS there !!! Even for another pylon ... there were not enough "blue harnesses" wassat
      In general, a badly prepared "hat2, but for a" people "it will do ... wink
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 31 January 2014 14: 06 New
        +1
        I’m still interested in guided missiles - what’s the matter with them? It seems recently was not very
        1. VAF
          VAF 31 January 2014 14: 22 New
          +7
          Quote: Pimply
          It seems recently was not very


          Hi Zhenya! Unfortunately, everything is at the same level crying Everything is exactly the same as with the "Bulava" ..... (sea missiles are engaged in by the landowners). so here there is Izhmash, but Rogozin needs Izhtech .... and then ... "NPO High-Precision Systems and Technologies", and stating that .. it seems that everything is already there and so on. but in fact ... okay ... wait, sir soldier
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          2. SPACE
            SPACE 31 January 2014 23: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            Because this is "BUTAFORIA" and there is no OMS there !!!

            Quote: vaf
            While the navigator flies there for the passenger and he has one "navigation" no more.

            Quote: vaf
            Yes Yes. boats without missiles, T-72 tanks, all the same Grads, ships without air defense, etc.

            Quote: vaf
            We will also be on .. "the revival of the military-industrial complex" or .. wait a little

            And they make it and it flies for a props, and the cabin is stuffed with devices for bulds and PNK stations and radars are not working toys! Well, of course, he shoots nurses into the void, for a spectacular Chinese fireworks and a gun to nowhere! laughing
            Waf, you funny little man ... recourse
            Quote: vaf
            By "ear riding". Dear

            Quote: vaf
            A realist? It's good on the couch behind the keyboard ... "urya. Get up off our knees, get up, etc.

            Like an adult ... but in fact a sandbox request
            Do you have doubts in the mind of the designers that Mace, Whirlwind and Armata will be brought to mind? Nursam, pounding a gun, a couple of hundred terrorists will stop, what's wrong? Or do you, any day, wait for the Chinese Blitzkrieg? Unlike you, I know and believe in people that in Russia, in addition to you, there are other people who are really smart and most importantly thinking and doing. To whom and what do you want to prove with your reality? That's interesting, what will you say when the Mace and Whirlwind fly in? and then what will be the use of your past reality? Although you don’t have to bother, it’s all clear why you are doing this ... they say stupidity can only beautify a woman, and stubbornness can be a horse ...
            hi
        2. beard999
          beard999 31 January 2014 15: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          It seems recently was not very

          And what is “not very,” actually? Ka-52 with guided missiles has always been. So far, with the 9K113U Sturm-VU ATGM with 9M120-1, 9M120-1F, 9M120-1F-1 missiles. TsAST assures that the complex and serial missiles were supplied for all Ka-52 aircraft. You can ask them yourself. Now the Kalashnikov concern is fulfilling an order for 13 billion rubles. for the supply of 9-A-4172, PTRK 9K121M Vikhr-M missiles. The first batch for testing was made at the end of last year. http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130806/954673783.html.
          Work is underway for the future. Ten days ago they said at KBP that they were continuing to work on the Klevok / Hermes CWP http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php/ru/home/127-russkij/novosti/aktualnaya-informats
          iya / 301-visit-prezidenta-20-01-2014. At the level of “rumors” from the VIF, similar operations for equipping helicopters with promising ATGMs are also carried out by the KBM.
          1. Crang
            Crang 31 January 2014 15: 24 New
            -5
            ATGM 9K121M "Vikhr-M" originally stood on the Ka-50 "Black Shark" in the 80s.
            1. VAF
              VAF 31 January 2014 16: 15 New
              +3
              Quote: Krang
              ATGM 9K121M "Vikhr-M" originally stood on the Ka-50 "Black Shark" in the 80s.


              By "ear riding". Dear ... this is not with me wink
              This is there .. the full site of "uryakalok" ... this is for them and there .. as far as it will fit wink

              On the Ka-50, the 9K121 "Vikhr" complex, the 9A4172 "Vikhr" rocket was originally installed on the Ka-50 and was put into trial operation on the Ka-1992 at the end of XNUMX soldier

              The complex that you are trying to talk about, i.e. complex 9K121M "Vikhr-M", rocket 9A4172K "Vikhr-1" at that time was only in the stage of ... soldier

              At the same time, for some reason, you are missing the moment that for those "Whirlwinds", even the Shipunovskys, the agro-industrial complex "Shkval-V" and the PNK "Orbit-20" were also needed, neither one nor the other has been produced for 15 years. wink
            2. beard999
              beard999 31 January 2014 17: 42 New
              +2
              Quote: Krang
              ATGM 9K121M "Vikhr-M" originally stood on the Ka-50 "Black Shark" in the 80s.

              In the 80s. on the Ka-50 was the Vikhr KUV along with the I-251V Shkval complex. Large-scale production is not Ka-50, KUV "Whirlwind" has never been. Now on the Ka-52, as part of the SUO-806P, the Blik and the MSVI Okhotnik are used, which give the Vikhr-M new capabilities, for example: simultaneous shelling of 2 targets, launch of 2 missiles at one target in one beam (including to overcome KAZ), the ability to enter a rocket into the beam at the final section of the trajectory with the possibility of automatic maneuvering and bypassing areas with poor visibility ...
              By the way, the same Americans use AGM-114K "Hellfire II" missiles (in service since 1991) with a cumulative warhead and AGM-114R "Hellfire Romeo" with a multifunctional warhead in their helicopters. Both missiles with semi-active laser seeker. And that is characteristic, nobody there cries about this.
      2. VAF
        VAF 31 January 2014 14: 15 New
        +7
        Quote: vaf
        Because this is "BUTAFORIA" and there is no OMS there !!!


        If. Dear "uryapatriots-m inusery" as a result of your minuses on the Ka-52, Whirlwinds, and even better Hermes ... good



        But for now ... Aligator, that is ... only he has teeth ... and with such a "attitude" of "interested persons" bully still will not be very long. hi
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 31 January 2014 16: 41 New
          +5
          Quote: vaf
          dear "uryapatriots-m inusery"


          vaf I ask you not to associate the word patriot с "uryakalkami".A patriot is the one who really loves his Motherland and is ready to defend it. And "uryakalki" are those whom you mean.
          1. VAF
            VAF 31 January 2014 17: 56 New
            +4
            Quote: supertiger21
            I ask you to


            Got it, +! I'll just ... "fellow -guns " drinks
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 31 January 2014 18: 10 New
              +3
              Quote: vaf
              Got it, +! I'll just ... "fellow -guns " drinks


              That's good! wink
        2. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 31 January 2014 17: 48 New
          0
          Quote: vaf
          But for now ... Aligator, that is ... only he has teeth ... and with such a "attitude" of "interested persons"

          Quote: vaf
          still will not be very long.

          Sad to hear about it recourse Although yes, I recall this.
          I want to ask everything why the MO decided to call MI-28?
          After all, the Kama machine is much better in flight performance and damage resistance is also higher for the KA-50 (52).
          What's the matter?
          I just haven’t been interested in helicopter topics for a long time, I mostly come off on armored vehicles.
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 17: 53 New
            +2
            Wanderer! MO orders (and buys) both the Mi-28 and the ka52. The Ka-52 go like managing the Bears. So everything is fine! drinks
            1. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 31 January 2014 18: 01 New
              -1
              Then another question.
              And why do not form units (squadrons, regiments) with a uniform composition of machines, why such a discrepancy?
  21. Stasi
    Stasi 31 January 2014 12: 20 New
    -4
    The helicopter is great! It's a pity that the troops will receive only a few units of such a helicopter. The reason is that the priority is given to the MI-28N helicopter, the "Night Hunter". It is such a helicopter that should replace the Crocodiles, not the KA-52 Alligator.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 31 January 2014 14: 13 New
      +2
      I do not know in my opinion "Crocodile" cannot be replaced. It fulfills its function by 150% and will work for the benefit of the Motherland for a long time.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 31 January 2014 14: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Stasi
      ! It’s a pity that only a few units of such a helicopter will enter the troops.

      Not units, but already dozens, by 2020, like 140 will be. Plus on the way, the deck version, they are also planning to purchase several dozen.
  22. Wiruz
    Wiruz 31 January 2014 13: 48 New
    +2
    Does it seem to me alone that his gun is somehow uncomfortably located? Mi-28H seems to be better.
    1. lestad
      lestad 31 January 2014 15: 33 New
      +1
      Yes, I noticed the same thing. It seems to me that it should be more mobile, and not turn the entire body
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 31 January 2014 22: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Wiruz
        Does it seem to me alone that his gun is somehow uncomfortably located? Mi-28H seems to be better.

        Quote: lestad
        Yes, I noticed the same thing. It seems to me that it should be more mobile, and not turn the entire body

        The gun is not weak return, and shoot it on 28, the further across the course, either accuracy or rate of fire is not.
    2. viktorR
      viktorR 31 January 2014 18: 06 New
      +2
      On the contrary, his gun is better located than the 28th. It is located almost in the center of mass, because of this the accuracy is higher than 28. Another thing is that it is less mobile, but in my opinion it is not as critical as a heap, the helicopter still works from ambush
  23. supertiger21
    supertiger21 31 January 2014 13: 53 New
    0
    Excellent photos, more of these helicopters. I put the article "+".
  24. spirit
    spirit 31 January 2014 14: 04 New
    0
    Good! Often began to fly along the Moscow Ring Road! already seen several times)
  25. saag
    saag 31 January 2014 14: 07 New
    +2
    the gun is located normally, it is in the MI-28N it is in the vibro-loaded part of the fuselage, all the same, in most cases, directional shooting. it is unlikely that someone will shoot sideways, will wrap them around the axis of the screw in return
  26. Crang
    Crang 31 January 2014 15: 23 New
    +3
    This Ka-52 "Alligator" is a good machine, although, according to the pilots, the coolest in this topic was the Ka-50 "Black Shark". From him fans. Although for me personally and for a significant part of the pilots, the Mi-24 Krokodil was and remains a model of helicopter technology.
  27. Max_Damage
    Max_Damage 31 January 2014 15: 44 New
    +1
    And what about his whirlwind?
  28. Crang
    Crang 31 January 2014 16: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: Max_Damage
    And what about his whirlwind?

    The latest modifications of the Mi-24, which were created, could carry both the Vortex-M and Attack-V and even the Igla-V, Sosna-V, and R-64V air-to-air missiles.
    For example, the Mi-24VP-M, Mi-24VP-I, not only have a much superior OPS Mi-35M2, the main aiming system GOES-342, but also OEPS-27, an identical passive infrared locator with an RL-range finder, which stood on the early Su-27s, detecting in the sector ± 30 at the heading a small-sized, low-emitting aerial target up to 37 km, ground-based, class “cold tank” - from 14 km. According to the glider, Rostov combat helicopters (both modernized and new) have a shortened wing with 4 (instead of two) suspension points, on two of which are the R-64V - fifth generation generation adapted for helicopters capable of shooting down approaching near-sound fighter on heading over 20 km, as well as 4 Sosna-V under APU-4 Ataka (for comparison, Igla MANPADS, which are equipped with the Mi-24VM, capture the approaching fighter from 2500-3200 m, and hypersonic missiles "Pine" - up to 14 km. Nevertheless, and "Igla-S" is part of the armament of Mi-24VK and Mi-24VP-M).
    Such a machine (by the way, retaining the retractable landing gear and long fenders with tips) will easily cover the Apache, the Ka-52 with the Mi-28, or the Comanch.
  29. nnz226
    nnz226 31 January 2014 17: 08 New
    +2
    More "Alligators" good and different! To the Russian army!
  30. moremansf
    moremansf 31 January 2014 17: 20 New
    +3
    Well, in the Navy, they will come in handy !!!!!!
  31. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 31 January 2014 17: 41 New
    -1
    Sensation! Urgently send a team of doctors! The inhabitants of Torzhok have massive glitches - it seems to everyone that the Ka-52 flies among the rest (Mi-24, Mi-35, Mi-8, Mi-26, Mi-28), and it turns out to be NO.
  32. pawel57
    pawel57 31 January 2014 18: 37 New
    +2
    I wonder what is there with an overlap of screws? Is it fixed or does it happen under certain conditions?
  33. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 18: 41 New
    +1
    The Ka-50 suffered a disaster due to an overlap of the propellers in 92. At present, the problem of overlap has been eliminated. The helicopter can fly in supercritical modes, including performing "barrel", "looping".
  34. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 18: 51 New
    +1
    http://www.balancer.ru/g/p2513511 Минусовщики-проблемы в чем?
  35. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 31 January 2014 19: 02 New
    +2
    I don’t seem to see an adequate answer. But on helicopters, you don’t have to play with me. If you are minus (though I’m on the drum), please explain.
    1. Crang
      Crang 31 January 2014 21: 58 New
      -1
      What exactly do you explain? Ka-52 for the fleet and limited to the army. Mi-24 and Mi-28 for the ground forces.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 5 February 2014 14: 30 New
        +1
        The Ka-52 was created and is currently used as a command board. It is the "brain" for a flock of Mi-28-x. The Ka-52 itself has powerful armament and an on-board computer capable of bringing the vehicle to its base without a crew. 52 showed him, practically, fantastic abilities. That is why this machine will go to the mainland and the navy.
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    3. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 1 February 2014 20: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      I don’t seem to see an adequate answer. But on helicopters, you don’t have to play with me. If you are minus (though I’m on the drum), please explain.

      Minusists never explain their minuses because they do not know (not in the subject), out of harm, just do not like it.
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 February 2014 18: 03 New
    -1
    Good car. But its full potential is revealed when working in a flock of black sharks, as a control and target designation machine. But there are no black sharks, so ...
  37. Savl
    Savl 2 February 2014 12: 03 New
    0
    If you look from the face, then nifiga he is not an Alligator, he is a Mi (KA) joke.
  38. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 5 February 2014 13: 55 New
    +1
    The face of the helicopter’s face is the kindest. Unlike the Ka-50, it looked more aggressive.
  39. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 5 February 2014 14: 45 New
    0
    Quote: igor67
    Quote: EvilLion
    It was about the Ka-52, until the last crash, no one complained about his traction either. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to design a machine absolutely accurately and calculate its life cycle.

    What? For example, before setting the control cables, in the tail boom, a mandatory check for tearing, and the cables from the repair kits were torn, the quality is nowhere lower

    Igor! How familiar. Especially in the 90s. We, spitting on all the instructions, left the old cables. Even the chains were left on the screw in violation of all the rules. On top of the cloud you can't catch on, you can't sit on the side of the road. Although, whoever had a Volga, they put these chains on their engines. They don't have wear and tear. To technicians, we are the best .But pilots are our concern.
  40. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 8 February 2014 01: 51 New
    0
    Quote: bazilio
    Great photos, great helicopter.
    It would be interesting to read about a detailed comparison of the Ka-52 and Apache. It seems to me Apache will lose in many ways
    And the Ka-52 has nothing to compare with yet ... If only the "Professor" gives out something ... like "having no analog FF" ...