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The Ministry of Defense will dismantle the site "NITKA"

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The Ministry of Defense will dismantle the site "NITKA"Ministry of Defense of Ukraine intends to disband training aviation "Thread" training ground, which is located in the Crimea.


This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

"In the absence of interest of other states in the use of the training aviation ground" NITKA "until July 2014, the object of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be subject to disbandment," the report says.

Earlier, Russia used the training ground to train deck pilots. However, 4 September 2013, the Russian side reported that starting with 2014, and in the future will not use the landfill.

In this regard, a draft law of Ukraine “On the termination of the Agreement between the Government of Ukraine and the Government of the Russian Federation on the use of the landfill landing system“ NITKA ”was prepared.

“Currently, the draft law is on interdepartmental coordination with the relevant central executive bodies,” the Ministry of Defense notes.

NITKA (Ground Test Aviation Training Complex) is used to train deck aviation pilots. The only training aviation complex created in the USSR is located at the Novofedorovka airfield (near the town of Saki in the Crimea). After the collapse of the USSR, he moved to Ukraine. The agreement between the two governments on the use of the landfill was signed in February 1997.

The Ministry of Defense did not use the landfill, since it does not have heavy aircraft carrier cruisers.

At the same time, Ukraine was considering the opportunity to offer a training ground for the preparation of flight personnel of carrier-based aviation of China and India.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 30 January 2014 07: 48
    +11
    China has its own range the size of an aircraft carrier laughing
    Given the state of the Ukrainian economy, soon there will not be a single airfield at all. Everything through F ***
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 30 January 2014 12: 58
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      China has its own range the size of an aircraft carrier laughing
      Given the state of the Ukrainian economy, soon there will not be a single airfield at all. Everything through F ***


      Brothers need help - after the disbandment, the thread is still blowing up ... otherwise Ukraine will still have to spend money on upkeep.
      1. Kars
        Kars 30 January 2014 20: 39
        +1
        Quote: Geisenberg
        after disbanding, also blow the thread

        Why? What can I sell. Reclaim the land. The aircraft carrying cruisers in the Ukrainian Navy are not planned. So everything is logical.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        so they wanted to cut down more money, but it didn’t work out. That's how they ended up with a broken trough

        The cost of land will be many times more than renting 20 years in advance, and there already the structures are already outdated.
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 31 January 2014 00: 42
          +1
          Quote: Kars
          The cost of land will be many times more than renting 20 years in advance,

          Delirium or dreamed?
          If possible, I would like to see how it turned out to calculate and get such a result?
          Or was there no count and is it just another bunch from Kars? laughing
          1. Kars
            Kars 31 January 2014 03: 08
            +1
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Delirium or dreamed?

            Well, if you ask this, you are able to refute it with numbers?

            The annual cost of renting the "Nitka" landfill for the Russian Federation averages 700 thousand dollars. Tribune 23:24
            These issues will be resolved in a working order, "- said in the message. Russia is Ukraine's main partner in the use of Nitka. The Nitka range of take-off and landing systems was created in 1980 to train the flight personnel of naval aviation.


            http://webground.su/topic/2011/04/18/t296

            the beginning of the construction of the Yeysk thread?

            11: 34 19.12.2011 0 comments Yeysk
            Spetsstroy is building a military airdrome in Yeysk, where a simulator for training pilot-decks of the NITKA type, which is currently operating in Crimea, will be located.

            the news for the 11 year (I will explain for lovers of delirium)) means the decision on the construction was at least two years, that is, at least in 2009.

            Now do a favor and find the Nitka Square in the Crimea, and calculate how much land there is.

            and in fact, at a loss only to the Russian Federation for the sake of cheap economy, many billions of rubles were buried in the ground.
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Or there was no calculation, and this is just another bunch from Kars

            Smell, I see you like it.
    2. aspirin02
      aspirin02 30 January 2014 23: 26
      -1
      Here he is handsome
      1. soldat-gvardii
        soldat-gvardii 31 January 2014 16: 18
        0
        is this an advertisement? Who did this and for whom?
  2. afire
    afire 30 January 2014 07: 54
    +21
    choked with greed and burst ...
    with your head, you had to think in advance, do not put sticks in the wheels and cooperate with Russia
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 January 2014 08: 07
      +9
      Quote: afire
      with your head, you had to think in advance, do not put sticks in the wheels and cooperate with Russia

      Well, they wanted to cut down more money, but it didn’t work out. Here they ended up with a broken trough request
      1. askort154
        askort154 30 January 2014 08: 39
        +8
        Alexander Romanov ..... Well, they wanted to cut more money, but it didn’t work out. So, in the end, we ended up at a broken trough


        Greed has ruined the frayer! The same fate awaits the gas transportation system of Ukraine as soon as we launch South Stream.
    2. rolik2
      rolik2 30 January 2014 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: afire
      choked with greed

      Have you tried to turn off emotions and logically look at the situation? How much did Russia pay for the rent there? 700 yew $ a year is a penny. This training ground is not used in the interests of the Ukrainian Air Force, and therefore works on the principle of self-sufficiency, the Russian military trains for a month or two, and the training ground needs to be maintained all year round, pay salaries, pay utility bills, carry out ongoing repairs (equipment has long been out of production and parts have to be made from scratch)
      1. avt
        avt 30 January 2014 12: 19
        0
        Quote: rolik2
        Have you tried to turn off emotions and logically look at the situation?
        Logically, it looks like this - they grabbed what they could not swallow, but only took a bite. If not for the long-term policy of squeezing the Black Sea Fleet out of the Crimea in the form of all possible restrictions on the composition, the war with lighthouses and the cutting off of the aviation group. They could have reached an agreement and would not have built an analogue in Yeisk. Well, the most "unexpected" is yet to come. This is the replacement of those factories whose products we do not produce yet. And of course, South Stream. Throughout this line, first of all, claims should be made against your leadership, starting with Kravchuk and ending with the current one. Well, the fate of "Threads" has been predicted for a long time, but "comrades from the field" joyfully assured - with a mustache and a donkey, but at times the Indians and Chinese will break, it has not grown together. Well, not the first time, and not the last time.
        1. rolik2
          rolik2 30 January 2014 14: 49
          +1
          Quote: avt
          grabbed

          do not go too far dear, Russia had no claims either to the borders or to the property that remained in Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR. You, too, "grabbed" a rather large piece from the USSR, which you never digested.
          Sharks, BZHRK, thousands of tanks, dozens of ships and submarines were scrapped.
          From Thread they received money that they spent on the same Thread. The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not need it, those who wish to rent will be welcome, but to keep an object that you don’t use, spending public money on it and not getting ANY benefit is stupid.
          If you personally have a complaint, file a lawsuit.
          1. avt
            avt 30 January 2014 16: 47
            0
            Quote: rolik2
            You, too, "grabbed" a rather large piece from the USSR, which you never digested.
            Sharks, BZHRK, thousands of tanks, dozens of ships and submarines were scrapped.

            Yes, but for quite specific reasons beyond our control - even when the mines were opened for the scrapped boats with boards from precipitation, they immediately received a call from "common people" - "why did they stop utilization." Well, the classics of the genre - "Admiral Lobov", now "Ukraine". This is generally a symbol of what is happening - rusty, I can't find it, and you still don't know who to sell at a higher price, it is still necessary to appoint Yanukovych as a captain.
            Quote: rolik2
            spending public money on it and not getting ANY benefit is stupid.

            Well, then what should we do with the same gas? Here's how, Gazprom, on the advice
            Quote: rolik2
            If you personally have a complaint, file a lawsuit.

            For refusing to pay, he hinted that he would submit to arbitration - so such a hysteria happened about "infringement of the square", only the Maidan blocked the howl, but again, under the Maidan naurointegration booze, they knocked out a loan and a deferral of current payments for gas demand. sort it out for yourself, in the sense of disassemble it. Thank God, finally, with a creak, they began to rely only on themselves, so the liquefied gas plants and gas tankers began to do everything that smart people are about - the statesmen suggested that EBON be done in the 90s in order to be independent and not to be subjected to neither "brotherly" nor the EU blackmail.
            1. soldat-gvardii
              soldat-gvardii 31 January 2014 16: 56
              0
              "Well, with" Thread "sort it out yourself, in the sense of sorting it out."

              it’s for sure a concrete goods plant; parking lots with caponiers from the Tu-22 30 regiment have already been dismantled - on plates, on the ground.
          2. soldat-gvardii
            soldat-gvardii 31 January 2014 16: 51
            0
            dear, do not confuse property claims and the fact that in \ h ...... "THREAD" thanks to its commanders took the oath to "Ukraine" and thus this property BECAME UKRAINE.

            only one military unit in the garrison did not become renegades
      2. soldat-gvardii
        soldat-gvardii 31 January 2014 16: 41
        0
        Who made the repairs? and salary 1 \ 2 from the state of 1990, or even less
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 30 January 2014 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: afire
      choked with greed and burst ...
      with your head, you had to think in advance, do not put sticks in the wheels and cooperate with Russia


      It’s a common thing for the lords to make rednecks such that they find themselves ... well, they are deceiving in general, which happened in the end.
  3. Veter
    Veter 30 January 2014 07: 55
    +6
    And has an analogue been built in Russia? If so, you can close it. Well, do not give the Chinese.
    1. Warhead-xnumx
      Warhead-xnumx 30 January 2014 08: 01
      +3
      If I’m not mistaken in Yeysk and have long been built the same
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 January 2014 08: 10
      +6
      Quote: Veter
      . Well, do not give the Chinese.

      And do the Chinese need him? The Chinese have their own and are many times better (probably). Here is the Chinese analogue hi
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 30 January 2014 08: 23
        +1
        Why did they build an aircraft carrier cabin? For more authenticity, or what? request
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      3. Ivan.
        Ivan. 30 January 2014 13: 22
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Veter
        . Well, do not give the Chinese.

        And do the Chinese need him? The Chinese have their own and are many times better (probably). Here is the Chinese analogue hi

        Something it reminded me ... aaa submarine in the steppes of Ukraine, so we teased each other in the 80s laughing In the cinema cinema show, about the submarine in the steppes of Ukraine will you go watch? And the boys about the movie war respect ... smile
      4. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 30 January 2014 22: 10
        +1
        the Chinese do not even have an analogue. It is a completely original development.
      5. soldat-gvardii
        soldat-gvardii 31 January 2014 16: 58
        0
        They sold everything for a long time, showed it, gave it to measure and copy. I will remind about copies. Su-33 sold to China in the appendage to VARYAGU
  4. svoi
    svoi 30 January 2014 08: 02
    0
    They will sell it, at the price of scrap metal, they do it deftly, our "all-proprietors" make noise, they act.
  5. region46
    region46 30 January 2014 08: 03
    +1
    in 2013, a similar complex was launched in Yeysk. because Russia refused to use the complex in Crimea
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 January 2014 08: 11
      0
      Quote: region46
      in 2013, a similar complex was launched in Yeysk

      Is it already built?
      1. Enjoy
        Enjoy 30 January 2014 08: 24
        +4
        The first take-offs from it were already carried out. Maybe there was some kind of debugging and tuning, but the complex itself is already ready. Plus, it will have a special deck for training helicopter pilots.

        As Henry Ford said, "The best car is a new car." smile
  6. Per se.
    Per se. 30 January 2014 08: 20
    -6
    "If other states are not interested in using the NITKA training airfield before July 2014," that is, if interested parties are found by July 2014, we can get the presence of Chinese or NATO countries in Crimea, who can use the springboards for training pilots the same F-35. Finally, it is not the complex itself that is important, but the precedent, the opportunity to climb and gain a foothold for someone in Crimea. Does Russia have agreements here, according to which our sworn friends should not appear next to our base in Sevastopol? Looks like no. "Economy" may result in strategic losses for Russia. We must either be sure of an alliance with Little Russia, or not leave the enemies the very possibility of using the complex for their presence in a region strategically important for us.
    1. Enjoy
      Enjoy 30 January 2014 08: 30
      +7
      Americans take off from the Soviet springboard on the F-18 ... smile In fact, their carrier-based aircraft takes off with the help of a steam catapult and Thread for them as us their aircraft carriers - without need. Secondly, they could not even carry out exercises under Yushchenko without their bells and whistles (God give them health, happiness and home, to Russia)
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 30 January 2014 08: 43
        +1
        Quote: Enjoy
        Americans take off from the Soviet springboard on the F-18 ...

        Thank you, you told me about the catapults ... I, however, talked about VTOL aircraft, for which light universal aircraft carriers-helicopter carriers and UDC are now being built. Nobody knows what "second" will happen in the light of what is happening in Kiev on the Maidan, just as no one has denied the alleged lease of land by the Chinese in the Crimea for "agriculture" with their "construction battalions".
    2. Lyapis
      Lyapis 30 January 2014 08: 33
      +3
      Another "economy" will result in strategic losses for Russia

      In your opinion, was it necessary to pay exorbitantly large amounts of money and endlessly butt out with Ukrainian politicians in order to prevent the doubtful possibility of other states appearing there? At the same time, do this to the detriment of the real training of pilots?
      One must either be confident in an alliance with Little Russia, or not leave to the enemies the very possibility of using the complex for their presence in the region, strategically important for us.

      In the past 20 years, have you met at least one person who is confident in an alliance with Ukraine? And what about politics? And how do you expect not to give "the possibility of using the complex"? To blow up a military facility of a sovereign state, on the territory of this very state ???
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 30 January 2014 08: 52
        0
        Quote: Lyapis
        In your opinion, was it necessary to pay exorbitantly large amounts of money and endlessly butt out with Ukrainian politicians in order to prevent the doubtful possibility of other states appearing there?
        We must fight for our interests.
        Quote: Lyapis
        Have you met at least one person confident in an alliance with Ukraine in the last 20 years?
        With such an attitude, there will be no such person, we will have no allies left. Ukraine is a Russian land, we must strive to ensure that every inhabitant of Ukraine considers himself first Russian, and only then Ukrainian, Siberian or Ural. Otherwise, we will endlessly "proudly" leave, giving the initiative to all Bandera and other scum.
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 30 January 2014 09: 09
          +2
          We must fight for our interests.

          The point is that it is necessary to distinguish interests and benefits from, excuse me, stupid adherence to the principle of "keep and not let go" even to the detriment of oneself.
          With such an attitude, such a person will not exist; we will not have any allies at all. Ukraine, this is Russian land, it is necessary to ensure that every resident of Ukraine considers himself first Russian, and only then Ukrainian, Siberian or Ural.

          I completely agree with this, but still we must not forget that Ukraine is still a different country and you will never prove this to Bendera. But besides them, there is a considerable percentage of the population who do not associate themselves with Russia (and not at all through our fault).
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 30 January 2014 09: 32
            0
            Quote: Lyapis
            need to distinguish between interests and benefits
            Refusal from "THREAD" is just a benefit, a dull benefit according to the logic of the traders, with their "capitalism". Interests are our presence in Crimea, in Ukraine itself. Here, the benefit is not obvious to the "menager" from the hop-stop, this is a pre-term perspective, vitally important for Russia.
            Quote: Lyapis
            Ukraine is still a different country and you will never prove this to Bendera’s
            Bandera’s are not born, they become, our Russian guys, who are powdery, using our passivity. There are, of course, hopeless scumbags, a GMO product, but they are a minority. Kiev, the historical heart of Russia, and Ukrainian land, the indigenous Russian territory, from which Russia began to expand. The fact that some do not know and feel now is our shortcomings, our weakness in an ideological war.
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 30 January 2014 09: 58
              +1
              Refusal from "THREAD" is just a benefit, a stupid benefit according to the logic of traders, with their "capitalism". Interests, this is our presence in Crimea, in Ukraine itself. Here, the benefit is not obvious to the "menager" from the hop-stop, this is a pre-term perspective, vitally important for Russia.

              Why go to Kiev all the time and pay money (which can be spent more profitably) for what we have at home? (read the posts above, in Russia an analogue of Nitka will soon be completed). And what then, in your opinion, is the "pre-term perspective, which is vital for Russia"? In the high-quality and constant training of our pilots (which will not be influenced by the next squabbles between the governments of the two countries) or keeping a piece of land by any means and means, with argumentation in the "because-because" style?
              Kiev, the historical heart of Russia, and Ukrainian land, the indigenous Russian territory, from which Russia began to expand. The fact that some do not know and feel now is our shortcomings, our weakness in an ideological war.

              Of course, you say everything correctly, but this brings us back to the question: How does renting the NITKA complex from Ukraine contribute to the high-quality and independent (from different political moments) training of pilots of carrier-based aviation in our country?
      2. Poppy
        Poppy 30 January 2014 10: 52
        +1
        why not blow up "oh, he exploded himself"
    3. Rus2012
      Rus2012 30 January 2014 10: 04
      0
      Quote: Per se.
      if anyone interested is found until July 2014, we can get the presence of Chinese or NATO countries in Crimea,

      ... well this is hardly ...
      But preserve m. it makes sense ... until better times ... when in Nikolaev they will begin to build an aircraft carrier for us smile
      And then it may come in handy ...
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 30 January 2014 13: 27
        -1
        Quote: Rus2012
        And then it may come in handy ...
        So this is what we are talking about, including.
  7. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 30 January 2014 11: 14
    +1
    Nothing! Soon the corrupt girl will be torn to pieces and again Krum will become Russian, and aircraft carriers for the Russian Navy will rivet at the shipyards of Nikolaev! wassat
  8. Nitarius
    Nitarius 30 January 2014 13: 03
    0
    If God forbid UKRAINE, break into two parts! We get it and SO! Putin said the treaty will be ratified! and redefine the BORDERS!
    CRIMEA then we will take MYSELF and ALL eastern UKRAINE!
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 30 January 2014 15: 39
      -3
      Quote: Nitarius
      Putin said the treaty will be ratified! and redefine the BORDERS!
      CRIMEA then we will take MYSELF and ALL eastern UKRAINE!

      Well, probably Dima could say such a thing. Do you even understand what you wrote? What contract are you going to ratify? And what are the claims to the borders? Moscow officially stated that it does not have them.
      And are you sure that instead of eastern Ukraine you will not get a face?
      No need to attribute the thoughts born in your sore brain to officials.
    2. anarky
      anarky 30 January 2014 16: 24
      -1
      Russia, as it were, guaranteed Ukraine that this would not happen in exchange for the withdrawal of nuclear weapons.
  9. alone
    alone 30 January 2014 19: 12
    +1
    If there are no aircraft carriers in the country, then there are no carrier-based air groups either. Therefore, it is more expedient to disband the center. Because the further operation of the center means only extra public funds.
  10. kelevra
    kelevra 30 January 2014 19: 20
    0
    I read that due to constant intrigues in terms of CLOSE-DO NOT CLOSE, they blackmailed us with the price of services. Ours built such complexes in Russia and now they want to leave for their homeland. I think this is generally even reasonable!
  11. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 30 January 2014 22: 17
    0
    http://deleysk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/pic_35aa27d47968ea3125e1245ca830dd5
    3.jpg
  12. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 30 January 2014 22: 59
    0
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/36950/