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The war of words and the blockade environment of Ukrainian society

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It was confirmed by what many not only guessed, but also spoke. Ukraine has a professional terrorist army, the backbone of which is well-trained attack aircraft of the conglomeration of the so-called "Right Sector", trained in combat operations in the city, owning the technology of forceful seizure of buildings and sensitive facilities. Information cover is provided by dozens of TV channels, including several state-wide, many hundreds of online publications, thousands of journalists, bloggers, and Internet hamsters - “black squares”. It was they who instilled in the public consciousness semantic stamps - “peaceful protesters”, “activists”, “they are children”, “outraged citizens”, “fighters for their rights” ... Officials of the EU and the United States unequivocally approve of the actions of the PS, being like us we see, an ally, inspirer and sponsor of the monstrous attack that was undertaken against Ukraine’s traditional. Victoria Nuland admitted that America invested 5 billion dollars in the development of “Ukrainian democracy”. Which part of these funds was invested in political technologies, training and “independent” media, which in lawmaking, and which in the creation of summer camps, training for militants , the Molotov cocktail throwers, did not say so.


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The fiery phase of Maidan, an attempt to capture the strategic Ministry of Energy by armed people, talk about the threat of the Rovno nuclear power plant and the mining of the Dnieper hydroelectric station, the seizure and defeat of the TV channel "Kiev" peaceful supporters of European integration. " The persons involved in these excesses, anyone, but not "spontaneous activists of the Maidan." We must speak the truth - they are attack aircraft, thugs, professional militants and provocateurs who can attack without weapons“Gaining weapons in battle”, in their ranks “reckless scumbags”, they are a highly accurate tool of big politics. Other terms a la "onizdeti" - camouflage, front camouflage net over the true meaning.

The fact that the actions of the "activists" are technological and in no way spontaneous, says a lot of facts. A tiny example. An observer of the two-hour assault on the RSA building in Cherkasy testifies: “Periodically, those who fell into the water [from the number of attack aircraft] quickly disappeared in the aisle between the Communication House and the neighboring 5-storey building. After some time, they returned, while their wet outerwear magically became dry - and again to the assault. ” The quartermaster service on their terrorist front acts flawlessly. And another thing: in many cities they noticed that there are always people in red jackets in the crowd of “revolutionaries”, these are commanders of units, “conductors”, they transfer teams, all other attackers keep them in sight and listen to them implicitly.

Similar we see in the media. There is no need to go far for an example. The first available message, pulled out of a stream of similar, about the events of the fiery night of January 19 / 20 - is a witness. Pay attention in the news report to the terms: “As of 02: 00 ul. Grushevskogo continues to remain the center of confrontation between the protesters and law enforcement officers ... Military trucks for passenger traffic and two buses burned down. Activists also continue to throw water cannons at the incendiary bottles, but the security forces are still able to put them out. Some bottles fall directly into the soldiers of the internal troops, which is why they light up ... ”The reader of such texts, according to the plan of technologists, should not move the hair on his head, but on the contrary - a feeling of pride and excitement for the actions of protesters and activists should flare up.

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War against Yugoslav-Libyan-Syrian stencils started against Ukraine. About the deep purpose of the sponsors of the war, we will say later. In the meantime, we note that the fiery phase did not begin with the adoption of "dictatorial laws", as it might seem to someone. But with the verdict, which handed down to three terrorists Svyatoshinsky district court of Kiev 10 January. That same evening, an attack was made on the Berkut cars. Forwards had the intention to repel convicts, to show that they did not abandon their own. Three terrorists, who are trained by the press, disguising the essence, for several years now call them “Vasilkovsky terrorists” - these are members of the ultra-nationalist organization “Patriots of Ukraine”, which is one of the militant detachments of VO Svoboda, an integral part of the Right Sector. These guys, who lived in Vasilkov, made a bomb filled with nails and set out to blow up a monument to Lenin in Brovary during a crowded holiday. Intentions were suppressed, the trial lasted a long time (IN "Freedom" obstructed), the verdict was 6 for everyone. Let's pay attention: the epithet “Vasilkovskys” is a flair, designed to give the word “terrorists” a kind of frivolity, almost no humor.

By January 19, by the time of the next “veche” on the Maidan, the militants prepared themselves thoroughly. It was at this point that the media were suddenly filled with reports that "this week the Svyatoshynsky district court of Kiev issued a verdict in the case of Vasilkovsky terrorists". Although in fact the verdict was not “on this”, but last week. It was a signal. At the same time, the January 10 riots were not mentioned. There (already the reason was forgotten) the fighter for the freedom of terrorists Y. Lutsenko suffered a head injury. Spread the old "news", Apparently, was a signal to the fiery uprising, like the legendary" cloudless sky over all of Spain. " Well, the adoption by Rada of 16 of January of raw laws, tailored to European patterns, was used by political spinologists of Maidan to the highest degree. The media did everything so that these laws, called “dictatorial” (and among them the necessary law banning the propaganda of fascism and some others), overshadowed the actions of the defenders of the January terrorists 10.

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Ukrainian society has been living in an information blockade environment for several months now. When gosdepovsky “5 channel”, nominally belonging to the “chocolate presidential candidate P. Poroshenko”, led pro-Western propaganda from year to year, warming up nationalist passions, it was perceived as the action of a propaganda sabotage army. But one. The struggle with it due to reality was almost never conducted, but if conducted, it was sluggish. 5 had its influence on the exacerbation of the political situation in 2004, during the first Orange Revolution, zombies with the biased “honest novae” of the simple-minded Ukrainians.

Do not deviate from the topic, if we remember how Poroshenko masterfully trained his correspondents, making them pocket. What are the methods of training "free" and "honest" journalists? This can be judged by the printout of Poroshenko’s conversation with Vladislav Lyasovsky, editor-in-chief of the information service of the 2003 channel, published in 5 during the year. Poroshenko at that time was the people's deputy from the party of Yushchenko in the Verkhovna Rada and was concerned about his progress. Poroshenko in the conversation inserts a piston to his editor: “I once again looked at the channel. Of course, I am “very pleased” that we have Pogrebinsky on the channel. I am “pleased” with the fact that in this way we have it illuminated that we have Donetsk against Yushchenko. My friends, the situation on the channel is simply uncontrollable. I am telling you this. The information block on the channel for which you are personally responsible, personally you ... "Lyasovsky justifies:" I will ask you, let's clean up the hell out of people who are asterisks, then I will answer. "

Speech about self-minded journalists. Poroshenko allows: “Take away ... Please, you answer personally, and you can at any time make proposals on the removal of" stars "and other x ..."

Actively hostile, pro-Western was this one channel. But at the beginning of the second Orange Revolution 30 in November 2013, Ukraine found itself in a complete information environment, where on all state-owned TV channels they began to drive into sympathy for “euromaidan”. The situation only partly changed after the signing of the new Moscow agreements, when Lyovochkin was removed from management, and the co-owner of Inter Firtash received a significant discount on gas for their enterprises.

However, the “1 + 1” Kolomoisky-Lauder remained, as before, sharply “maidanut”. Therefore, at present, the people of Ukraine are, figuratively speaking, in the position of the 6th and 12th Soviet armies of 1941, surrounded tank Guderian wedges. It was the latest technology, which at that time in the world no one could oppose anything. Our generals studied quickly. Using the same technology, they arranged for the Germans Stalingrad, Korsun, and Berlin at their time.

"5 channel" feels safe for now. As Maidan in general.

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I would like to note that any political agreement with Maidan, which is “covered” by the West, is a trick of Maidan technologists, a maneuver, a regrouping of forces after any failures. So it was already this winter. To their recent failures, we can include the suppression of January 27 storming of buildings of the Regional State Administration in Cherkasy, Zaporizhia, Dnipropetrovsk.

The fact that the leaders of the Maidan suddenly, on January 27, began to dissociate themselves from Alexander Danilyuk's “Spilna sprava” radicals, is a small but obvious success.

The invader of the Ministry of Energy and the Ministry of Justice is distressed: “When we were throwing Molotov cocktails, there were heroes. And now…"

Victory must be followed by victory. As Stalingrad followed Kursk, and then the Dnieper. So here ...

Of course, everyone needs a breather. Understanding, removing "weak links" and regrouping.

In the famous film by N. Mikhalkov, a hero on a snow-covered field near Moscow exclaims: “Does anyone know how to beat a German ?!” And he shoots from despair.

We are not in this position. Maybe the worst. But I just want to exclaim: to surround 5, you need political will to ban the propaganda of war and extremism ... Or is there already such a law? It seems, and the Constitution suggests this?

It is necessary to urgently address the issue of the dissection of information tank wedges "5-th" and "1 + 1" and masterful introduction in the media of its agenda. Otherwise, the Maidan, as it stands, will stand as a lump, only expanding - until the state is completely destroyed and the territory of Ukraine is transformed into a positional area of ​​NATO attack forces ...

Victory will be ours!
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  1. afire
    afire 30 January 2014 07: 45
    +19
    God help me go through this stage of Ukraine and stay whole.
    Help restore justice and severely punish all inciteers.
    Health Golden Eagle, endurance, patience and ALREADY TIME to receive an order to disperse this ugly and cowardly American moorish rubbish.
    Amen
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 30 January 2014 08: 28
      +8
      But how to reconcile the Bandera Ukrainian-Nazi West of Ukraine, oriented to the European Union, and the Russian-Ukrainian Orthodox East, the Russian Crimea, gravitating towards Russia?
      How to unite essentially irreconcilable different nations that prevent each other from living according to their traditional laws?
      This is difficult, or almost impossible. With the Nazis, in large numbers, it is impossible to find a compromise in principle.
      So that the option of splitting Ukraine is possible. There are also examples in Europe. If the author does not fit the example of Yugoslavia, then there is an example of the divorce of two peoples in Czechoslovakia into two independent states - the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
      Perhaps this will be the best option for a peaceful solution between the Maidan West of Ukraine and the peacefully living East, Crimea.
      1. afire
        afire 30 January 2014 09: 05
        +6
        if you remove the freaks, close the propaganda channels and set up a NORMAL life in which people will be comfortable, then western Ukraine will cease.
        After all, all the problems of people from the unsettled life. From problems with work, small salaries, etc.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 30 January 2014 10: 53
          +1
          if you remove the freaks, close the propaganda channels and set up a NORMAL life in which people will ...


          But how to do it? It's impossible!
          Faster, with the help of the West and the USA, with the media controlled by them, they will remove NORMAL pro-Ukrainian leaders from power and put the Nazis at the head of Ukraine, who will crush the East and Crimea of ​​Ukraine, spreading Bandera's new orders there. Alas, it is necessary to look at the situation realistically, without blindness.
          For the West and the USA, the main thing is to crush Ukraine, as an ally of Russia, and what will happen there later, it’s all for them. They simply put the Nazis on feeding, as a counterweight to Russia.
      2. Docent1984
        Docent1984 30 January 2014 10: 14
        +2
        Unfortunately, this won't solve the problem either. After all, now no one will be able to drive all the fascists back to Lviv, Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk, in order to then enclose these three areas with a concrete wall ... they will creep across "normal" Ukraine and start a terrorist war. They don't know how to work and don't want to ...
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 30 January 2014 12: 08
          +2
          Quote: Docent1984
          will creep into "normal" Ukraine, start a terrorist war

          Spreading, identify and destroy. There is experience.
      3. makarov
        makarov 30 January 2014 10: 38
        +7
        Why try on it ??? Last night, freedom and the Right Sector started a firefight among themselves. Well, that was limited only to injuries. Not so simple.
        It is 17 degrees cold outside, and a frantic wind, electricity was lost in the house, I had to climb into the shed behind the generator, barely started it up, letting people use their property like that. Instead of gasoline, they filled in some nasty things, I had to go to the gas station with a canister at 3 nights, and gradually it gets dry ......... here is the result, I'm online !!!!
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 11: 23
          +5
          Quote: makarov
          On the street, frost 17 degrees,

          We have -30, but thank God there is light, and firewood for 2 winters ahead. But most importantly, we do not have Maidan. laughing
          1. makarov
            makarov 30 January 2014 19: 54
            0
            So in my city, too, there is no Maidan, And at the expense of firewood, then I am not a supporter of such heating. I myself have some firewood for a rainy day, but for a black one. And so, a double-circuit boiler, hot and cold water in the house, communications, the Internet, each family member has his own "car", next to a basement 2 meters from the entrance to the house, chickens, pigs, goats are nearby. And the generator, it's a good thing, it was not in vain that I spent money on it 5 years ago, it justified itself long ago.
    2. Sunjar
      Sunjar 30 January 2014 11: 34
      +2
      Quote: afire
      God help me go through this stage of Ukraine and stay whole


      What does God have to do with it?

      Yanukovych, together with his group, again wants to sit on the fence during the war. On the one hand, once and for all (and this is also very relative) to make a decision with whom he is with the West or with Russia. So he rushes between the fires and wants to please everyone. But until he makes a decision in one direction, the chaos will only grow. If you make a decision in favor of the West, then you can say goodbye to your political career ahead of schedule, if in favor of Russia, then the West will brand it as an enemy of democracy and begin to impose sanctions. One hundred pounds of his "luminaries" have accounts abroad, real estate, etc., and all this will have to say goodbye. But after all, with all-round support from Russia, he would have been able to resolve the situation that had arisen in a short time and win the confidence of the majority of the people of Ukraine.
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  2. Name
    Name 30 January 2014 07: 45
    +4
    Ukraine has a professional terrorist army, the backbone of which is the well-trained attack aircraft of the so-called Right Sector conglomeration- Yes, introduce them to the ranks of the guys from the special forces and bring discord to the ranks of the right,But the leadership has no will.
  3. invisibility
    invisibility 30 January 2014 07: 47
    +6
    How could special services not track the emergence of such organizations? Or maybe then this is not special services at all? Stop the activities of Natsik in the bud! And this applies not only to Ukraine!
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 30 January 2014 07: 55
      +5
      Quote: invisible
      How could special services not track the emergence of such organizations? Or maybe then this is not special services at all? Stop the activities of Natsik in the bud! And this applies not only to Ukraine!


      The fetus is no longer even a baby; it has long grown in the Beast.
      And measures to them must be taken already monstrous.
      1. invisibility
        invisibility 30 January 2014 09: 35
        +2
        I support! What the x .. opposition! Criminals!
        The authorities should not only think about themselves, but also about how to protect ordinary citizens who are not allowed to ...
      2. invisibility
        invisibility 30 January 2014 09: 35
        -1
        I support! What the x .. opposition! Criminals!
        The authorities should not only think about themselves, but also about how to protect ordinary citizens who are not allowed to ...
    2. 10kAzAk01
      10kAzAk01 30 January 2014 08: 15
      +4
      How could special services not track the emergence of such organizations? Or maybe then this is not special services at all? Stop the activities of Natsik in the bud! And this applies not only to Ukraine!

      Yes, they have young lieutenants of special services, the US ambassador presents diplomas, and you are surprised !!!!!!!!!!
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 30 January 2014 08: 31
      +5
      Quote: invisible
      How could special services not track the emergence of such organizations?

      Firstly, the special services were busy looking for victims of the Holodomor, and secondly, there are a lot of children of former and current people's deputies, but they need to work? thirdly, strong specialists have left or they have left, there is no one to learn from, although it is possible to go to the USA "for courses". Yushchenko and his comrades have done a good job!
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 30 January 2014 08: 55
        -6
        Quote: Egoza
        Firstly, the special services were busy searching for victims of the famine, and secondly there are full of children of former and current people's deputies, but they need to work? thirdly, strong specialists left or left, there is no one to learn from,

        In Russia as well. The special services are squeezing and roofing the business, while the national question, meanwhile, has already risen to its full potential. I am generally silent about corruption. All authorities are corrupt, the media is all pocket. The people are angry at the power of the most do not indulge. So far, Russia can help Ukraine, at least with loans, but who will help Russia itself? Will we draw conclusions on events in Ukraine? Most probably not.
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      3. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 30 January 2014 09: 23
        -2
        Quote: Egoza
        Yushchenko and his comrades did a good job!

        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        The fetus is no longer even a baby; it has long grown in the Beast.


        And in my opinion - THIS IS A PERFORMANCE! no more. Paper dragon - Chinese type. A lot of honor for this wed ...... am! This Maidan wanted, needed it, Azarov and Yanyk! That was the plan! type: Do not wash so skating! And how else to beg for money for the arrangement of the economy?

        And at FEAR OF THE EYE OF GREAT! Everyone was seduced by this performance!

        They came up with Natsyks, fascists. Made out of an ELEPHANT FLY!

        REMEMBER IS NECESSARY AS IN A JEK: and the bear says this - I’m only one year old, but how I will smear so any desire to eat me and disappear!

        In short - KUNO! And the boxers ’talks with the Golden Eagle - let's talk! confirmation of this! (as in the ring - by hug and our loot).
        And the nervous laughter of Azarov!
    4. vanaheym
      vanaheym 30 January 2014 11: 57
      0
      Intelligence agencies were engaged in the protection of businesses and the persecution of buyers of hidden cameras - this is more useful both for pocket and for disclosure.
    5. CALL.
      CALL. 30 January 2014 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: invisible
      How could special services not track the emergence of such organizations?

      They were brought up by Western intelligence services, in case of opposition, not even accession, but only rapprochement between Ukraine and Russia. $ 5 billion was spent somewhere. These $ 5 billion are now fighting on Maidan. Hammered, Russia is sleeping and sees how to capture Ukraine, and at its expense to live well. Russia without Ukraine will survive. We are not in the first. Ukraine without Russia is not. This is not me talking. These are the laws of geopolitics say.
    6. Val_y
      Val_y 30 January 2014 12: 42
      +1
      Duc and did not miss! Everyone knew. In Ukraine all the time since 1991, ANTI-RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA HAS BEEN CARRIED OUT, all normal pro-Russian leaders were "suicide" (Kushnarev, Kirpa, Kravchenko), or they were very intimidated. Yanyk he is a bandyuk, he climbed on the Russian wave, the "family" natyril babulos, but how to keep it is not clear. So he tries to sit on the fence, and now too.
    7. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 30 January 2014 15: 08
      0
      read "Ukraine revival of civil society", there is about the former head of the SBU with an indication of the courses he attended in the west, and he is not the only one there
  4. Sakmagon
    Sakmagon 30 January 2014 07: 56
    +9
    There is an urgent need to resolve the issue of dissecting the information tank wedges of the “5” and “1 + 1” and masterfully introducing its agenda into the media ...

    ... moreover, in this, first of all, Russian and state channels that have access to broadcasting in Ukraine should be connected, since there are no such channels in Ukraine at the moment.
    The power of Yanukovych and Co. has a ... information war, and this is one of the reasons that it is now and everything else ... well, you understand.
    It is possible to create private television and radio channels on the territory of Ukraine and along its perimeter, with the main emphasis being placed on the TRUTH and PRESENT HISTORY.
    To seize the initiative, to concentrate efforts on BANDITISM, TERRORISM AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES (with concrete examples, there is more than enough of this good), emphasis on those feelings that are so loved in Central and Western Ukraine - greed and "Ridny khatynki" blaze with a hot flame ...
    Connection is possible (or creation) WESTERN TV channels - well, this is for specialists ... in vain, or something, the GDP has taught the entire Geyropu to the same teams as its Labrador ...
    THIS IS NOT A Riot, NOT A TIP - THIS IS ONE OF THE BATTLES OF AN ALREADY BEGINNING WAR!
    Work - the field is not plowed!
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 30 January 2014 15: 13
      0
      and you watch and listen to Russian channels, I'm not even talking about "rain", but the press? read "tape" or "vedomosti" there is also a continuous brainwashing over the peaceful protests of Ukrainian citizens, we just have such a layer of noodles that crumbles.
  5. Docklishin
    Docklishin 30 January 2014 08: 00
    +3
    Well done, we borrowed 15 billion from us under the word of Azarov. And then the government was leaked. 5 points. I wonder what the West will do when the East stands on its hind legs. And if the question arises about the division of Ukraine, then how will the very West behave. After all, there are not only fools, everyone understands. Namely, that he will live sooo hard. As they say, there is an opinion that after the Olympics our leadership will take some kind of intelligible measures .... I would like to believe.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 30 January 2014 08: 48
      +4
      As they say, there is an opinion that after the Olympics our leadership will take some kind of intelligible measures .... I would like to believe

      I agree with you.
      That we see only the surface part of the iceberg. It seems that not only Brussels and Washington are playing the game, everything is too crooked: street tests in winter, forest brothers got out instead of Europeanized students, the east of Ukraine organizedly drives the maydans, etc. The West was something or something very limited in time and forced to dance to someone else's tune. The handwriting is familiar, so we are waiting ... wink
  6. Jarilo
    Jarilo 30 January 2014 08: 04
    +3
    What Maidan is doing now is destruction. The destruction of the economy, politics, all the foundations on which the state rests. It’s like a disease that needs to be treated, otherwise it will progress and destroy the body. If someone thinks that Western countries will help Ukraine restore the economy, then this is simply naive. There are objective things that are guided by investing money in certain projects. The main thing is the risks. Risks in Ukraine have increased and will only get worse. The only option when they will be interested in investing in Ukraine is to create something like fascist Germany there, which is unlikely to succeed, because there is a good vaccination. Therefore, this is simply the destruction of the country, they are not allowed to heal. But in the end, you decide. Your health is in your hands.
  7. tank64rus
    tank64rus 30 January 2014 08: 31
    +2
    An undeclared war against Russia has begun in Ukraine.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 30 January 2014 09: 00
      +5
      Do not tell, the undeclared war of the West against Our Country began many centuries ago. Now there is only a small battle of this endless war, which, probably, will not even go into the annals of this state (if one is ever written). hi
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 30 January 2014 08: 43
    +3
    Obama, in a recent speech, said the USA ACUTELY NEEDED NEW SALES MARKETS - perhaps this is the key to unraveling EVENTS IN UKRAINE.

    The basis of all conflicts is the economy, and the United States is now seeking a way out of its crisis by destroying the economies of other countries - now at the forefront of the blow UKRAINE.

    Leaving aside Russia will only facilitate the task of the USA, the next country to attack will be WE.

    Therefore, now it is necessary to find such a way that the United States would be too costly to absorb UKRAINE into its sphere

    hehe vital interests.

    It is time for RUSSIA to move from defense to attacking such US assaults.
  9. Neophyte
    Neophyte 30 January 2014 08: 52
    +4
    Is there a Ukrainian media against Maidan? Surprisingly, they are few. Such a feeling in Ukraine instead of the SBU
    does the CIA work? Or is this the intention of the authorities? On the Maydaunt media, journalists with emotion tell how lively holes live on the Maidan, how the people of Kiev gladly provide them with their bathrooms and
    toilets for returning to a human kind. Like women bought in hryvnias, women of Kiev are on their knees in front of Berkut, depicting mothers of maidan's children. And in the Western media, in general, darkness and a heinous lie!
  10. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 30 January 2014 08: 58
    +5
    In Ukraine, there is a professional terrorist army, the backbone of which is a well-trained attack aircraft of the so-called “Right Sector” conglomeration, trained to conduct combat operations in the city, owning technologies of power capture of buildings and sensitive facilities.

    Werewolves are nothing new to Ukraine. "Hero" of Ukraine Hauptman Shukhevych from the Brandenburg 800 regiment with his German colleagues in the form of the NKVD troops in 1941 committed atrocities in Ukraine, and the present Ukrainian nationalists pretend to be "peaceful demonstrators".
    If these creatures were shot on the spot, they would quickly hide in rat holes, but "democracy" and liberalism are not able to resist internal enemies.
  11. calocha
    calocha 30 January 2014 09: 13
    +5
    Authorities in Ukraine are eager for people with misanthropic attitudes
  12. 787nkx
    787nkx 30 January 2014 10: 37
    +1
    First was the word ...
    The world began with a word, perhaps for the end of the world.
    just one word will be enough.
  13. Zabelin
    Zabelin 30 January 2014 10: 51
    -4
    "Victory will be ours!" Excuse me, who is behind you? Maybe for the likes of M. Pavliv, a representative of the "Ukrainian Choice"? His article - "On the" Appeal of the Party of Regions to all who care about Ukraine "(http://glavnoe.ua/articles/a8754) the brightest reflection of the majority of adherents of the current government. Read it, you will not regret it, you can understand a lot. What are pearls like - "You, the Party of Power, the Party of OUR Regions, came to power with OUR bayonets, we supported and defended you during the years of Yushchenko's hard times.
    This is the last three years that we have observed with indignation that not values, not our culture and its protection, not our sense of dignity were your goal in politics.
    We saw and endured, and waited for that and the turn will come to our "needs"."
    “You are ordinary rogues, flying high and spitting on those who gave you flight.
    You don't care about our feelings, our culture, our needs and our expectations. "
    It seems that everything is correct, the person is outraged by the arbitrariness of the authorities, its inactivity, monstrous corruption, and even gives "practical" advice - "Go and figure out the problem, and what will you lose, God bless you, let us earn money again"It's epic !!!! Keep robbing us. We're ready."
    And if you expect such a victory, then I'm not with you. And there are many, many.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 30 January 2014 11: 14
      +4
      What do you want to prove here?

      First, understand this is a Russian patriotic site,
      which lags behind primarily the interests of Russia.

      Secondly, you probably live in Kiev,
      but to live in the capital and on the periphery is
      two different things, this applies including to our Moscow.

      In Russia, to put it mildly, not enthusiastic about Yanukovych,
      he has already "thrown" us several times, but we will never
      agree with such as: Rabbit, Boxer and Fascist.
      1. Zabelin
        Zabelin 30 January 2014 12: 33
        +2
        You are right, I’m not going to prove anything. That the site is patriotic, I have already seen. Moreover, in different forms, not the best. But in my opinion, patroitism is not a denial of everything and everyone who does not agree on you, but first of all, probably, in love for the Motherland, first of all in the realization of what exactly prevents it from moving forward. And you must admit, this same love cannot look the same for everyone.
        I perfectly understand you when you talk about the interests of Russia. Only until now no one has clearly formulated them. Nobody. At least once, the same Putin voiced what is the global essence of building the same "Russian World"? Conditionally, we are building a socially just fraternal state on the basis of, etc.? No, everything is much simpler and more prosaic. Redistribution of markets, means of production, etc. Moreover, among their own. And Yanukovych was in the same cohort. His own. And GDP does not like to lose and does not know how.
        As for what you will not agree .... Never say never. Especially in politics. Sincerely.
        1. 787nkx
          787nkx 30 January 2014 13: 24
          +2
          You move away from the topic of discussion.
          Perhaps there are topics that are closer to you or more concern you.
          Not the fact that I will disagree with you on them.
          But this topic is a crooked information field around the events on the Maidan.
          In my opinion
          "Victory will be ours!"
          An excellent slogan for patriots of Ukraine and all opponents of this farce on the Maidan and around it.
          I am for a free and strong Ukraine in alliance with the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus and against the lawlessness that is happening now.
          Do not associate Maidan as a departure or rejection of Russia and the Russian choice.
          There is a coup d'etat initiated by benefactors from the west and carried out, not by the great patriots of Ukraine, but by a well-organized bunch of rabble.
          Who wants victory to be theirs ???
          "Victory will be ours!"

          Such an information message should sound from everywhere in order to break this evil.
    2. ovgorskiy
      ovgorskiy 30 January 2014 13: 48
      +2
      Zabelin, and whom in Ukraine to support? Boxer or fascist? Something I don’t remember, here on the forum someone praised Yanukovych. Just from 2 evils choose the lesser. In my opinion, Yanyk managed to spoil everyone, both within the country, and the west and Russia, but in any case he is better than a fascist or an Amer’s protege.
  14. Neophyte
    Neophyte 30 January 2014 11: 12
    +3
    Everything is much worse, since the youth of southeastern Ukraine are already brainwashed. The Nazis are still being rebuffed by people of the middle and older generations. The structure of the Russian world in these areas has been destroyed in 24 years and Russia has not carried out any restoration and unification efforts
    Russian-speaking citizens. But after all, these young people are ready in the near future to join the ranks of Bandera.
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 30 January 2014 11: 34
      +1
      Quote: Neophyte
      The structure of the Russian world in these areas over 24 years of independence has been destroyed and Russia has not carried out any work to restore and unite it
      Russian-speaking citizens. But after all, these young people are ready in the near future to join the ranks of Bandera.

      Excuse me, you wanted to say Russian-speaking citizens of UKRAINE? What does "The structure of the Russian world" mean? And what other restoration work? And if Russian speakers in Ukraine are oppressed, then this is contrary to the Constitution of Ukraine ... And who will join the ranks of the Erosev gangs is a question. I can't imagine Russian speakers in their ranks, believe me, we lived there for 11 years, when my father served in PrikVo ... Sorry, but we left Ukraine 22 years ago, I agree that the generation of Russians in the 70s and older was brought up in the USSR and then there was no such hemorrhoids, and the Nazis in the mountains "bawled", and did not walk for 23 years in uniform around the cities.
  15. Ross
    Ross 30 January 2014 11: 24
    0
    Quote: afire
    if you remove the freaks, close the propaganda channels and set up a NORMAL life in which people will be comfortable, then western Ukraine will cease.
    After all, all the problems of people from the unsettled life. From problems with work, small salaries, etc.

    This is not entirely true. I myself am familiar with some Western Ukrainians, they will not change. They already have a different mentality and need several generations of serious educational work in the Russian environment to partially change the vector of their orientation.
    DNA studies show that Zapadents have the presence of the Celtic Rib and partially Semitic haplotypes; they have almost no Slavic blood. You need to be realistic. They are really closer to Western Europe by blood than to the Slavs.
  16. Ross
    Ross 30 January 2014 11: 28
    +1
    Quote: Neophyte
    It seems like in Ukraine instead of the SBU
    does the CIA work?

    What is surprising? If there was already information that the SBU personnel were appointed from the filing of American curators.
  17. noein
    noein 30 January 2014 11: 30
    +2
    Russia needs to solve something and as quickly as possible, if the ideological treatment of the southeast of Ukraine by Bandera continues for another ten years, then the southeast will be lost for Russia. If the generation of the beginning of the 90s is divided approximately in half, then the generation is closer to zero in general darkness, almost everything is against Russia. And then it will only get worse.
    1. vikov
      vikov 30 January 2014 12: 05
      -2
      Well, what can Russia offer? the same thieves' raspberries as in Ukraine, so they slammed as a generation who was not afraid of the authorities came onto the stage of the theater of life, and they were very carried away by cutting dough, and what can they offer young people who have no job, no housing, no development prospects, as always not enough for everyone.

      The regional administration of Dnepropetrovsk was surrounded by barbed wire even from the inside !. PHOTO
      The authorities of Dnepropetrovsk after the Sunday assault on the building of the Regional State Administration strengthened the protection of the regional administration, even from within.

      "The most neutral expression describing this photo - well, not down-to-earth people could come up with such a thing? Oblrada," the activist wrote.
      Source: http://censor.net.ua/n268747
      1. ovgorskiy
        ovgorskiy 30 January 2014 13: 41
        +1
        And you Vitek supported the site financially indicated by you: support democracy Recipient: OO “INSTITUTE OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH”
        R / s 26001349746 at AT Raiffeisen Bank Aval, and then 5 billion bucks are already ending. Sawed already.
  18. dropout
    dropout 30 January 2014 13: 29
    +3
    Let me quote the comment of one of the readers of the newspaper "2000". This is one of the few decent publications in our country.


    mellehova
    26.01.2014, 22: 19
    Ambassadors of the USA, France, Spain, Germany, Denmark gathered once on the Maidan; US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland; US Senators - Chris Murphy and John McCain; German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle; European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy - Catherine Ashton; former president of Georgia - Mikheil Saakashvili; Dutch Foreign Minister - France Timmermans; MEP - Jacek Protasevic; Lithuanian Foreign Minister - Linas Linkevicius; Speaker of the Sejm of Lithuania - Loreta Graužinene; former Prime Minister of Poland - Jaroslav Kaczynski; Czech Senator - Jaromir Stetina and .................. accused Russia of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine
  19. stroporez
    stroporez 30 January 2014 14: 20
    +2
    this is all nischyakovo, there is freedom, democracy, independence ......... that's what I can't understand, what kind of independence is this when "the American administration formulates criteria that the Ukrainian government MUST comply with !!!! ???? and that's what really pissed me off the most about this "SHOULD" ......
  20. Name
    Name 30 January 2014 14: 31
    +3
    Quote: engineer74
    It seems that not only Brussels and Washington are playing the game, they are all too crooked

    An interesting speech was made by NATO Head Anders Fogh Rasmussen in which he openly accused Russia of pressure on Ukraine and said(Attention!) on Russia's hostile attitude towards the expansion of the North Atlantic Alliance.Kol went into an open game means not all events develop according to their scenario.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 30 January 2014 14: 49
      0
      Actually, it is not long to wait - a logical continuation - porgomy on ethnic grounds and the criminalization of "protest". Then everything will fall into place: Europe will shut up and step aside, the Nazis will be squeezed for banditry, "maydanut" for aiding the first and second, Russia, as always, is white and fluffy - "We warned you goats (EU)!" .. Only people feel sorry for ...
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 30 January 2014 17: 15
        +1
        Quote: engineer74
        Europe will shut up and step aside, the fascists will be squeezed for banditry,

        Will not depart. In Kosovo, openly supported by Albanian bandits. Although they knew that they were criminals who cut off people's heads. Carla Del Ponte admitted this.
  21. Russ69
    Russ69 30 January 2014 14: 47
    +2
    Everlasting memory...

    The captain of the BB, who held the defense on Grushevsky, died

    “The 30-year-old policeman's heart stopped. These are the consequences of the daily tension in the confrontation on Grushevskogo, where Dmitry served as a policeman. The board of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and I personally sympathize with the relatives of the deceased, and we will not leave them alone in trouble, as well as other relatives of our dead and wounded employees, ”said Zakharchenko.

    http://ukrpravda.ua/news/umer-kapitan-vv-derzhavshiy-oboronu-na-grushevskogo
  22. RBLip
    RBLip 30 January 2014 14: 57
    0
    Yanuk took an ostrich pose - "A sick leave has been opened for the President of Ukraine in connection with an acute respiratory illness," said Oleksandr Orda, deputy head of the State Administration for Medical Affairs. It is noted that Yanukovych has a high fever. "
    hopes it’s clear that it will resolve itself.
  23. Santor
    30 January 2014 15: 12
    0
    Accidentally stumbled upon YouTube on a meeting of the notorious head of Echo of Moscow Venediktov in the very lair of the pro-Maidan media - Hromadske. TV 26.01.14/XNUMX/XNUMX It was their journalists who were the first, or rather propagandists, to call people to the Maidan. And this man, who first started the war, will join the three-hour conversation. With a Tatar name and surname.

    I treat Venediktov like all patriotic Russian people, but ...

    I beg everyone - I emphasize - everyone, and those who advocate Euro-integration, and those who are against ... Sit down and devote THREE HOURS OF TIME to attentively watching this conversation .... THREE HOURS. you will not regret it ... Regard Venediktov, but he is experienced, smart and able to stand up for himself and by the way for Russia and Putin, oddly enough .... I honestly said, I also sat in some places when he clearly upset Ukrainian colleagues, in particular the heads of the Roman television editor, was ready to applaud him ...

    Guys, a man says, albeit controversial for some, but smart and real things.

    1. CALL.
      CALL. 30 January 2014 17: 44
      +1
      Quote: Santor
      . How not to relate to Venediktov, but he is experienced, smart and able to fend for himself and by the way for Russia and Putin, oddly enough ...

      Yes experienced, yes cunning, yes cynical, yes a demagogue of the highest qualification. Yes, I liked the way he carried maidanutnyh magazines with his nose on the table. But there is a reason for this. Did not pay attention, at the beginning of the Maidan our liberals, in droves in droves on the Maidan. Then it blew off. Probably a tough go-ahead was given. Venediktov himself spoke of his conversation with Putin. I think that at the same time he received 101 Chinese ... In Kiev, he was going to Brussels, accredited to cover the summit. And if he were to begin to openly broadcast Russia on the open air, we would forget about the journalist Venediktov. Venediktov is an enemy of Russia, who has worked hard for its destruction. And he will work hard. After the closure of the Silver Rain canal, for its mockery of the memory of the besieged Leningrad, its co-owner Sindeeva, where she ran to cry, went to Echo Pedophila. http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/891591/ This should not be forgotten.
      1. Santor
        30 January 2014 18: 26
        0
        Anatoly, our liberals, which is dumber, like the Zverevs, are still hanging out there ...
        At the very beginning, I expressed my attitude to Venediktov. Yes, he is the one you called him ... But he has his own position, albeit different from ours, but exactly that position. The tail does not hold in the wind, and I personally deserve respect. You can hate the enemy, you can not love, but the real enemy must be respected ...

        Here's what I wanted to draw your attention to - look at how the boys are lying brazenly without even thinking ... Showing the dispersal in Zaporozhye, they broadcast about the brutal massacre perpetrated by the golden eagle to peaceful demonstrators, although in the very first frames, the policemen gave out somewhere, you can see clubs, sticks and metal rods in the hands of the "peaceful" ...

        The call of a journalist from Cherkasy - pay attention to how eagerly a young man with a Tatar surname, sometimes trying to speak the Ukrainian language, that for me, who was born and raised in Ukraine, generally cuts my ears, asks - wounded, injured, detained ... And although the lady it’s something mumble that the pier doesn’t see anyone, and it seems like a back-up on the other side of the square (but again she’s not visible), someone put a spot on and he holds his hand on his head ... There should be a live broadcast - one person is wounded, there are some who were detained from Berkutak ...

        By the grasp of the boys, it is clear that they received special training, although they didn’t attack that one ... And the woman, who was more intelligent, realized that they were stupidly sitting in a puddle and left, or maybe it seemed to me that she was ashamed of Venediktov ..

        But what editor-in-chief is that ... As he told Venediktov, the truth is not in the eye - get out to your Moscow ...
  24. Santor
    30 January 2014 18: 27
    0
    I made inquiries .. Roman Skripin is the author of the creation of the 5 channel, which blows up the fire of the civil war in Ukraine, an employee and leading commentator on STB, 5 channel, TVі, Novy channel, Radio Liberty, Gromadske Radio, which is an impressive list, including a CIA branch ... In addition, he is the media director of the RBC-Ukraine news agency ... A familiar abbreviation?

    Danilo Yanevsky - Ukrainian historian, editor-in-chief, tele-radio teacher, honors journalist of Ukraine, practicing on the radio "Freedom", "Voice of America", TV channels 1 + 1, 5 channel .... There is nowhere to put in my sample ... Freedom and Voice Am - funded by the CIA, and the Americans have not hidden this for a long time.

    Mustafa Nayim - leading the presenter of the program “Chorneta bile”, “Sjogodni pro golovne” (TVі), editor of the program “Freedom Savika Shuster” on the TV channel “Inter”, journalist of “Ukrainian Truth”. This is the one on whose behalf the interns first published calls for the violent overthrow of power ...

    Look at these boys and remember ... And I would like to ask the GDP to close their entry to the Russian Federation.
    Moreover, D. Yanevsky was a good commie in the night owl, defended his dissertation on the topic "The proletariat and the bourgeoisie during the crisis of 1917", but already in 92 he was found in the state "Free Europe / Freedom" as a journalist of the Russian department, then a correspondent of the Ukrainian department news service Voice of America, then 2 years in the United States at the National Institute for Democracy under the US State Department as a program coordinator for Russian and Ukrainian media.
    from 1996 to 2000, on various Kiev TV channels, the leading commentator, I will not list, since 2000, the director of the Kiev bureau of CE / Svoboda, at the same time an assistant of the Greek Catholic Church for relations with government bodies, after Yanukovych came to power in 2010, leaves Ukraine and appears in Chicago as a host of programs "Independent Radio", editor-in-chief of the émigré newspaper "Hour and Podії". In 2013, he was seconded to Kiev as deputy editor-in-chief of the Hromadsky TV stand.

    The author of 12 monographs, which have a pronounced anti-Soviet and anti-Russian character, and the last three in terms are 2010 - “Masonic, National Socialist Politics and Politics in 1917 r .: geopolitical context”.
    2012 - “Project“ Ukraine ”: a victim of the UPA, Messiah Roman Shukhevych.”
    2013 - “Project“ Ukraine ”: 30 of the 1941 rookworm, action of Yaroslav Stetsk”.

    Not too much for a modest journalist who is allegedly cutting the womb?

    Vrazhina is still one.
  25. alone
    alone 30 January 2014 18: 59
    0
    It was necessary to persuade so much that even the most ardent opponents of the opposition admit that, while confronting the opposition, they do not support Yanukovych, which means that the people of Ukraine are one, just many are against the methods of the opposition.