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On Tuesday, 2014.01.22, I once again left Odessa for Moscow. The train passed through Kiev, and a few hours from Vinnitsa to Kiev two people rode with me, intending to participate in the Maidan. And, as far as I understood, they were ready not only to stand on the Kiev Independence Square, but also, if necessary, to go into a fight on Grushevskogo Street.


I and another companion first tried to convince them. Then, when they realized that it was unreal, they tried to at least understand their views. After all, adults are the same. One, on the eye, near 30, another in the course of the conversation called his age - he is a little more 40.

They spoke about Ukraine almost literally the same thing that our belolentechniki say about the Russian Federation. That the laws adopted by 16 on January and which prevent the rallies and demonstrations from turning into pogroms are unconstitutional - and these laws not only fully comply with the Constitution of Ukraine, but also almost literally copied from similar laws in Western Europe and North America. That the procedure of passing these laws is illegal - although, naturally, no one has ever canceled the voting and the regulations of the Supreme Council of Ukraine, like the regulations of any other parliament in the world, allow this option.

By the way, a very funny version of the vote adopted in the British Parliament. There, in particularly controversial cases, parliamentarians leave the hall, after which they return through two doors: one is “for” and the other is “against”. Representatives of the factions are at these doors and all of them consider incoming. So the voting procedures are very different, but this in no way affects the legitimacy of the decisions made.

The main thing is that fellow travelers spoke with one voice: the current government is in itself criminal, therefore there is absolutely no need to prepare an electoral program in advance - first of all, this power must be removed, and then we'll see. Of course, the Maidan trident — Klitschko, Tyagnibok, and Yatsenyuk — is not suitable for the role of leaders, but this is not important. In a country where more than 40 live millions of people, there will be suitable leaders - you just need to clear a place for them. And there is nothing to propose in advance any alternative program of action, because any program will still be better than what the current government is doing.

At the same time, they naturally talked about the Russian Federation: they say, God forbid, to have such a country in them - a complete police dictatorship headed by a KGB criminal Putin, on whose hands a myriad of innocent victims. In general, they spoke about the Russian Federation exactly the same thing that they say to “Echo of Moscow”, “Edge” and other non-pressing handshake figures. Yes, and the same was said about Ukraine that was laid out on the current RF on the belolentochny websites - only with the replacement of names and geographical names.

All one to one. Everything is so recognizable, so obvious, that you are simply amazed. It can be seen that both Russian liberals and Ukrainians work on the same training manuals. Almost literally.

And having admired this, I finally became convinced that the American propaganda machine works very effectively, that its products are littered with heads in Ukraine and the rest of Russia and that we must act against common ideological enemies for us all by common methods.
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  1. AVV
    AVV 30 January 2014 14: 05
    +43
    Well, what do you want, the State Department is working !!! Otherwise, they will lose more, but they need to ruin the European Union and bring Ukraine into a dubious project, and strengthen their influence, and sell dollar wrappers more !!! So, what all work out their salary !!!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 30 January 2014 19: 05
      -47%
      Quote: AVV
      AVV (1) Today, 14: 05

      Minus set. Article at 18.48.
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 30 January 2014 19: 31
        +29
        Quote: baltika-18
        Minus set. Article at 18.48.

        this administration apparently laid out the article, then saw something, removed it, edited it and laid it out again, but the comments probably remained.
        minus bet you got excited for the mismatch of time. hi
        in this case, it does not depend on the user in any way, but only on the "master" of the site. laughing
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 30 January 2014 23: 52
        +11
        And having admired this, I finally became convinced that the American propaganda machine works very effectively, that its products are littered with heads in Ukraine and the rest of Russia and that we must act against common ideological enemies for us all by common methods.


        The methods are not only uniform, but also uniform - imprisonment and sudden death for the gifted.

        Ontole, dear your words, yes to God’s ears.
    2. smel
      smel 30 January 2014 19: 08
      +27
      Well, what do you want, the State Department is working !!
      It is not the State Department that bothers me, but our criminally negligent (there was once such a definition) attitude towards the promotion of our ideology, views on historical events, the promotion of our lifestyle, our values, etc., etc. So, the final cry of the French author very relevant
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 30 January 2014 19: 14
        +25
        the American propaganda machine works very efficiently
        I agree with you again Wasserman .. Well, I don’t argue well, I can’t object to your articles ..! Briefly simple and to the point ..! Well, plus you .. and yet with caution .. hi
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 30 January 2014 19: 09
      +54
      Quote: Anatoly Wasserman
      they said exactly the same thing that they say "Echo of Moscow", "Facets" and other non-meaningly handshake figures. And about Ukraine they said the same thing that was laid out about the current Russian Federation on white-tape websites - only with the replacement of names and geographical names.

      Out of nowhere, in due time, made conclusions about liberalism and its adherents F.I. Tyutchev
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 30 January 2014 22: 33
        +12
        Fedor Ivanovich expressed himself briefly and succinctly, and, most importantly, precisely and to the point. And in imperial Russia, you see, there were "paid agents of the bloody gebny." But Tyutchev is not an authority for our Europozoids.
      2. CALL.
        CALL. 31 January 2014 14: 49
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        made conclusions about liberalism and its adherents F.I. Tyutchev

        - Well, so my fact is that Russian liberalism is not an attack on the existing order of things, but an attack on the very essence of our things, on things themselves, and not on order alone, not on Russian orders, but on Russia itself . The liberal has come to the point that he denies Russia itself, that is, it hates and beats his mother.
        Every unfortunate and unfortunate Russian fact excites laughter and almost delight in him. He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. If there is an excuse for him, it is that he does not understand what he is doing, and takes his hatred of Russia for the most fruitful liberalism. - Dostoevsky's novel "I @ iot"
    4. Vladimir.z.
      Vladimir.z. 30 January 2014 19: 17
      +26
      Quote: AVV
      ... everyone fulfills their salary !!!


      In early January I talked with young Ukrainian lads of about 25 years old, so they say that they pay 5000 hryvnias per day on the Maidan if you just hang out there and 25000 hryvnias if you beat policemen ...
      That's what Amer’s candy wrappers do, young people, out of idleness and just out of a desire to make money, don’t understand what they’re doing and helping whom ...
      1. ReifA
        ReifA 30 January 2014 19: 25
        -8
        On a foreign press I read that they pay those who stand for the president. Blame the first \ come up with a charge - and the type of rights - this is the principle, apparently, in foreign publications.
        1. Samaritan
          Samaritan 30 January 2014 19: 57
          +11
          Thank you Uncle Tolya, only this is what we already know, you are a smart man, tell me what to do, how to prevent the destruction of the Slavs and Russia in particular ???
          1. dddym
            dddym 30 January 2014 20: 16
            +9
            The best weapon in such cases is the discussion - the demagogues are so afraid of the discussions - they turn pale and pass out.
            1. vladek64
              vladek64 30 January 2014 22: 15
              +21
              Quote: dddym
              The best weapon in such cases is the discussion - the demagogues are so afraid of the discussions - they turn pale and pass out.


              The fact of the matter is that no discussion will succeed. People with brainwashed are guided not by reason, but by emotions. And an emotional storm prevents them from thinking about anything for more than 30 seconds. Then comes a jump to another thought. So they are storming.
              A vivid example is the discussion of laws of January 16 because of which hostilities began on Grushevsky.
              Just a wave of negative assessments based on emotions. 90% of comments: "This is horror! Tin! We will have it like in Belarus! GULAG!" well, etc. Moreover, no one has read these laws, and when asked what specifically you do not like - either he tries to retell some kind of nonsense from someone else's words, or immediately falls into hysterics. Moreover, quite reasonable (in peacetime) people also fall into hysterics.
              Now they have been canceled and the "emotional" are victorious with a "deadly" argument at the ready: "If the laws were not terrible, they would not have been canceled!" At the same time, those laws were never read.
              1. Anper
                Anper 31 January 2014 12: 41
                +1
                I confirm: a classmate - a Maydan man, who had his wallet stolen while singing a hymn, which I have already mentioned more than once here, called and was nervous that he would be sent to prison (!!!).
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 31 January 2014 20: 10
              +1
              Quote: dddym
              The best weapon in such cases is the discussion - the demagogues are so afraid of the discussions - they turn pale and pass out.

              Especially Gorbachev, he was so afraid of them (discussions) that everyone was dumb from his speeches. And the redhead was afraid all the time, so he robbed the country, I’ll keep silent about Gaidarka. Will I call others? Or do you remember?
              The best weapon against them, count, rope and bullet.
              1. lukewarm
                lukewarm 4 February 2014 12: 42
                +1
                wink Not. COL is not a weapon. This is a tool of punishment. We will plant Liberastov on him
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          3. matross
            matross 30 January 2014 20: 29
            +18
            Quote: Samaritan
            tell me what to do

            Uncle Tolya cannot say this openly. And none of the people who have a name and reputation can. Issuing a prescription will automatically put them in the marginality category. This is at least. Although the recipe is known to everyone. It was well formulated by Stas Karpov in the famous TV series: "There is only one way to solve all problems - this is violence!" Whoever has the balls to apply it - he will achieve everything, at any level, the state is no exception. Ukraine with Yanukovych is doomed. Russia - we'll see ...
            1. afire
              afire 30 January 2014 21: 02
              +25
              although there is nothing funny, but :)
          4. siberalt
            siberalt 30 January 2014 21: 15
            +19
            Samaritan.
            "... tell me what to do ...?

            Wasserman is one of very few publicly advocating the reunification of the illegally divided Russian people. He talks about what everyone has in their language. But saying it out loud seems to be prohibited at the state level. So that our common "overseas architects of perestroika" are not offended. How long to endure? It's time to create some kind of Ukrainian-Russian committees for the reunification of the Russian people. That will be a real answer to the Pi - Ndos propaganda.
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          6. Heccrbq.3
            Heccrbq.3 30 January 2014 21: 58
            -27%
            He will advise you, this know-it-all. And as you know, the one who knows everything really .....
            1. JIaIIoTb
              JIaIIoTb 31 January 2014 18: 38
              0
              Eh Vasya Vasya .......
            2. JIaIIoTb
              JIaIIoTb 31 January 2014 18: 38
              0
              Eh Vasya Vasya .......
          7. mak210
            mak210 31 January 2014 18: 20
            0
            This Jew (nothing personal) Rain Man (with it. Wasserman) should think for the Slavs? What do you have with your head?
            1. Midshipman
              Midshipman 4 February 2014 12: 16
              0
              He proved long ago that he was a fan of Russia and the Russian idea. Compare his messages with the statements of numerous Belolentochny Petrovs and Ivanovs in order to understand that it is far from always possible to judge a person by his last name.
            2. Arbatov
              Arbatov 6 February 2014 09: 30
              0
              One friend of mine, a Tatar, somehow, trying to give up his nationalism in words, blurted out (literally): there are Tatars who are worse than Russians.
              You do not touch Onotole, something, but his words are always deliberate and not uninteresting. And in general, there are Russians who are worse than Jews.
            3. Marisat
              Marisat 6 February 2014 12: 47
              0
              Your suggestion?
        2. Vladimir.z.
          Vladimir.z. 30 January 2014 22: 05
          +9
          Quote: ReifA
          I read on a foreign press that they pay those who stand for the president ...


          Yes, and this also takes place there ... and the management of enterprises (at least they say so) for participating in rallies for the president and time off gives and puts vosmerochki in the report card - It's like a proverb knocks out a wedge. But lately, people themselves, without "doping", organize themselves against Bandera and Natsiks. And it's like in the Ukrainian anthem it is sung: "Ukraine has not died yet ...." - so that it is too early to bury Ukraine, but we SLAVS need to unite.
      2. 120352
        120352 30 January 2014 22: 19
        +4
        Apparently on the Maidan there are not just Maydauns, but simply corrupt prostitutes. And for this one must be severely punished! By the way, the "incorruptible" Yanukovych, apparently, was also paid for, and therefore does not disperse these enemies of the Russian people.
      3. cfuf
        cfuf 30 January 2014 23: 22
        -4
        pay those who are for a batch of fish.
    5. Heccrbq.3
      Heccrbq.3 30 January 2014 21: 56
      -19%
      Of course, who else is the State Department. The State Department is to blame for everything. belay
      1. CHILD
        CHILD 30 January 2014 22: 22
        0
        State ideology is needed, at the same time at the level of the Academy of Sciences and the Ministry of Defense .... the war for the minds and souls does not stop, if we do not learn how to defend ourselves sooner or later they will destroy us .... we won’t take us abruptly, it’s necessary that we don’t slip here ...
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 30 January 2014 23: 31
        0
        Quote: Heccrbq.3
        Of course, who else is the State Department. The State Department is to blame for everything. belay


        ...including...
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    6. gridasov
      gridasov 31 January 2014 14: 59
      -5
      The folly of such reasoning lies in the fact that a person is not able to take responsibility for his actions. The Americans have their own problems through the roof. And then they are the same people and in all their sinful deeds they blame not only the Russians, but those who they hate more. The Ukrainian problem can only be resolved through a peace agreement between the opposing forces. The outlaws in power and this is a fact, they did their deed and did not think that history would repeat itself. Every dictator dreams and thinks that his power is forever. BUT alas! The Ukrainian government is afraid to take responsibility, which has created the preconditions for the current situation, and the opposition denies it that it cannot find another way to resolve the issue of the struggle for power. And the people are again on the sidelines. It seems that everyone is right and everyone is wrong, but everyone is for himself. And only the only "SOLOMONOVO" solution is suitable. All other methods will only drive the problem to new revolutionary situations, although it is already like that.
  2. delfinN
    delfinN 30 January 2014 18: 33
    +45
    "If someone ruins Russia, it will not be communists,
    anarchists, and damned liberals ... One of the characteristic features of Russian
    liberalism is a terrible contempt for the people. "
    F.M. Dostoevsky
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 January 2014 20: 30
      +6
      Quote: delfinN
      "If someone ruins Russia, it will not be communists,
      anarchists, and damned liberals ... One of the characteristic features of Russian
      liberalism is a terrible contempt for the people. "
      F.M. Dostoevsky

      And the worst ones are those who smile sweetly and speak beautifully (and their soul is black ..)) How many of us have such power and are with us ..
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 4 February 2014 12: 47
        0
        I agree to all 100. It is still difficult to reach the authorities. And to those who are nearby - take a closer look and ...
    2. Genur
      Genur 30 January 2014 23: 15
      +3
      F.M.Dostoevsky - PLUS and delfinN also
  3. svp67
    svp67 30 January 2014 18: 57
    +12
    It is worth recognizing that in recent years, counting from the last years of the USSR, we simply gave up the "battlefield" of the information war ... Something must be done with this, and IMMEDIATELY. Reasonable and very active work in this area is needed. There is nowhere to retreat ...
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 30 January 2014 21: 05
      +3
      I agree +100500, But there is already Russia there, She is already fighting in the world, and we need to format the information field in the country.
      1. 120352
        120352 30 January 2014 22: 24
        -6
        How RT "works". we know. Anti-Russian program! And no one watches it, at least in the States. She is too small, no information!
  4. Stinger
    Stinger 30 January 2014 19: 10
    +13
    A good liberal is a dead liberal.
  5. Trofimov Andrey
    Trofimov Andrey 30 January 2014 19: 13
    +3
    Not Vassrman would be in this compartment, but Eitingon ...
    1. mark7
      mark7 1 February 2014 21: 21
      0
      Quote: Trofimov Andrey
      Not Vassrman would have been in this compartment, but

      Valueva
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 30 January 2014 19: 13
    +7
    I’m afraid that a lot of blood can not be avoided! Too many brainwashed people! It is a pity that the puppeteers will again remain in the shadows .....
    1. niki233
      niki233 30 January 2014 19: 29
      +5
      I think the blood will spill very soon somewhere on February 7-10
      1. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 30 January 2014 20: 05
        +6
        in Ukraine is Airborne Forces Day? Comrades would have dispersed ...
      2. svp67
        svp67 30 January 2014 21: 18
        +2
        Quote: niki233
        I think the blood will spill very soon
        May this blood fall a curse on all PUPPIES ...
      3. ty60
        ty60 30 January 2014 22: 50
        0
        yes blood has already spilled
      4. Dilshat
        Dilshat 31 January 2014 00: 41
        +3
        Here Assad did not run away from his country, did not abandon his compatriots. He embarked on the path of armed struggle as they used to say. True, they were going to completely erase his people. He had no choice. Here, the choice is less "cruel": economic slavery and, as a result, washing out and the extinction of the Slavic people. But the West is impatient to master the territory as soon as possible, so they will try to fan the fire more. Before the civil war. And in general, who pulled Yanukovych to sign any agreements with the European Union? Which were never signed. Did you decide to repeat the path of Humpbacked?
      5. siberalt
        siberalt 31 January 2014 02: 22
        +3
        If there will be blood, it’s already on the Maidan in Rada. When they will approve the composition of the new government. Perhaps the boxer will get it.
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 4 February 2014 12: 50
          0
          Boxers this sweet couple for a long time I did not like. Now I understand what. Nickname, maybe you knockouts. In order to go to the Maidan in a wheelchair
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    2. 120352
      120352 30 January 2014 22: 26
      +1
      And puppeteers need to be caught and shown to everyone in public. But this is a matter of intelligence and counterintelligence, but it does not seem to be!
  7. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 30 January 2014 19: 13
    +7
    Colleague Dolphin N, the Yankees have much more experience in the information war, we began to lose them back in the 80s, and later, following the (neo) liberals who do not see and hear who feeds and watered, lost it completely .Wasserman really argues from the standpoint of the great F.M.Dostoevsky, who in the West and in the USA was read better than ours.
  8. Ascetic
    Ascetic 30 January 2014 19: 20
    +25
    I and one fellow traveler first with a swift attempt to convince them

    Well, Wasserman is a risky guy! You can hardly convince such people with impeccable logic, since mental exhibitionism is already a clinical case. It was lucky that the "peaceful" and handshake liberals were caught and not the Nazis ... Those would not have to argue for a long time.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 30 January 2014 20: 10
      +14
      Quote: Ascetic
      Well, Wasserman is a risky man! You can hardly convince such people with impeccable logic, mental exhibitionism is already a clinical case

      In the "web" there is such a humorous tale - In Japanese, the surname Wasserman is written in two hieroglyphs, one of which means "brain", and the second "almighty". From my point of view, it is not far from the truth. Stanislav, hi
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 January 2014 20: 19
      +5
      Quote: Ascetic
      It was lucky that the "peaceful" and handshake liberals were caught and not the Nazis ... Those would not have to argue for a long time.

      And I heard that Wasserman always and everywhere, carries in his many pockets jackets, a collection of knives. So he, I hope, had something to defend. laughing
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 30 January 2014 20: 34
        +20
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And I heard that Wasserman always and everywhere, carries in his many pockets jackets, a collection of knives. So he, I hope, had something to defend.

        One of the facts about Wesserman: In a Wasserman vest there are 26 pockets, it weighs 7 kilograms. wink ! One of his many words: In the history of Ukraine there has never been more misfortune than independence. (...) And for four decades of the Hetmanism (from the death of Bohdan Khmelnytsky to the election of Jan Mazepa), Ukraine was almost constantly independent. And its population over the years ... has decreased. By conservative estimates, three times; the most reliable - five! (...) The Ukrainian state and the Ukrainian people cannot survive together. (...) The culture of Ukraine is destroyed not so much by Moscow as by Kiev. For decades, officials appointed by Kiev have been poisoning all talented creative people of Odessa. And most of these talents do not flee abroad, but to Moscow. And there they find shelter, work and understanding. And not only Odessa is concerned. Where did Les Tanyuk find refuge once? Roman Viktyuk, Mikhail Levitin and now do not seek to return to their independent homeland. (...) Actually, the Galicians are not Ukrainians. They have their own faith. Ukraine is now a colony of Galicia. Our rulers diligently listen to any shouts from Lviv. And many of them come from Galicia themselves (...) In our schools, the Ukrainian grammar is replaced by the order of the Minister. History is taught from textbooks published in Lviv by the Poles. Military departments in Ukrainian universities are closed, and in Galicia they are left to be commanded by Galician officers in the future. (...) I personally must fight in parliament for independence from Galicia and reunion with Russia. (...) For reunification with Russia, for independence from anyone who tries to prevent this ... "- It should make the Maydan people think, but the thinker completely refuses to work with them ..
  9. demel2
    demel2 30 January 2014 19: 22
    +5
    Yes, in our government half of the liberals and the white-tape ones are not necessary. The same liberalists will drive us to the railway station and give them free rein.
  10. demotivator
    demotivator 30 January 2014 19: 24
    +16
    I finally made sure that the American propaganda machine works very efficiently, that its products are littered with heads both in Ukraine and in the rest of Russia

    Bravo Wasserman! An absolutely correct construction of the phrase - ".. in Ukraine and in the rest of Russia". Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are a single whole. Even if today these are only parts of a once single whole, but it's not over yet!
    As for the zombies of people and the successes in this Western propaganda, we must admit that we must act decisively in this direction. Why do we have a TV? Is it just for some fun? It's time for him to do offensive propaganda.
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      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 30 January 2014 19: 38
        +2
        it seems you did not think with your brain, but with something else ... minus you.
      2. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 30 January 2014 20: 07
        +4
        they don’t want, but they want.

        Sorry for the girls, very young
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 31 January 2014 01: 12
          +5
          Therefore, they "want".)))
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      3. il grand casino
        il grand casino 30 January 2014 20: 59
        +5
        Quote: uhjpysq1
        ) ukroshlyuhi to work in Eurobrothels want to

        Although insulting women is this bestiality ... but the fact that European brothels will replenish is yes - you're right. Although there are now quite a few immigrants from the Baltic states and Ukraine. Soon the Romanians will arrive in time ...
        1. homosum20
          homosum20 31 January 2014 15: 41
          -1
          But do we have few of them? At least in saunas of Cherepovets, Kostomuksha and Chelyabinsk, visiting teams are 90% from Ukraine. Garnes of the woman.
          And so what .... democrats!
          1. homosum20
            homosum20 31 January 2014 16: 38
            0
            Really someone did not like ..... oh, sorry, did not like what I wrote?
            Unfortunately, this is a diagnosis - you are accustomed to deceive even yourself.
            Because I wrote the truth - I travel a lot.
            So the minus is yours. Off site - for life. He will certainly affect her. People do not like liars.
    2. Luzhichanin
      Luzhichanin 30 January 2014 19: 36
      +18
      the girls are beautiful in the face, but not far-sighted ... crying
      1. tracer
        tracer 30 January 2014 20: 35
        +2
        In your discovery, is something fundamentally new? laughing
      2. Alexandr73
        Alexandr73 5 February 2014 12: 29
        0
        And nothing more is required of them laughing
    3. SPACE
      SPACE 30 January 2014 20: 06
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      As for the zombies of people and the successes in this Western propaganda, we must admit that we must act decisively in this direction.

      laughing Your past propaganda in unison with the West, you are not like yourself, or is consciousness back?
      1. 31231
        31231 31 January 2014 13: 56
        0
        Your past propaganda in unison with the West, you are not like yourself, or is consciousness back?

        And I have something this comrade associated with the exclamations "Russia is gone! Plundered! Get the gang!"
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    5. dddym
      dddym 30 January 2014 20: 20
      +3
      They bustle like hens in front of eggs
      probably in Europe they trample better!
    6. 120352
      120352 30 January 2014 22: 33
      -1
      Since "they want", so let them bring down. Only there they will no longer be students, more precisely, students, but they will have to earn money by spreading their lower limbs. There is no other job for them.
    7. homosum20
      homosum20 31 January 2014 15: 37
      0
      This one on the left there will definitely be a success.
  11. Black
    Black 30 January 2014 19: 24
    +7
    I heard this from him in some sort of talk show with Solovyov, probably ....
    It is amazing that the guys are 30-40 year olds, not suckers. A country that initially did not have national unity, the theft of the ruling elites seems to me to be doomed to great blood. And Western puppeteers will not fail to take advantage of the situation. Saving.
  12. demotivator
    demotivator 30 January 2014 19: 26
    +3
    Quote: Trofimov Andrey
    Not Vassrman would be in this compartment, but Eitingon ...

    This is a waste. Frames like Eitingon are not used against small things. They are entrusted with more serious objects than this gopota.
    1. Trofimov Andrey
      Trofimov Andrey 30 January 2014 19: 28
      +3
      Well maybe accidentally hooked ...
    2. 10kAzAk01
      10kAzAk01 31 January 2014 05: 59
      +1
      This is a waste. Frames like Eitingon are not used against small things. They are entrusted with more serious objects than this gopota.

      for example...
      The previously missing leader of the “avtomaydan” Dmitry Bulatov was found and told that he was tortured and cut. As Bulatov himself said, unknown persons beat him, tortured, cut off his ear and even crucified him - he had punctures on his hands, reports TSN. The leader of Automaidan does not know who kidnapped him, but noted that the men spoke with a Russian accent.
  13. grotto
    grotto 30 January 2014 19: 29
    +4
    Fooling the population worked out. The media have never been independent, and if they are also paid for, they methodically "drip" onto the brain around the clock. Counterpropaganda is frail, unlike propaganda. To figure it out for yourself - either laziness, or lack of intelligence. In general, everything has arrived.
  14. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 19: 38
    +11
    On the one hand, the laws passed on January 16 are quite democratic and are valid in all Western countries. I have already gotten the slander of "shitty" journalists, there should be responsibility for the riots and the seizure of buildings, there should be a ban on extremism, it seems that there should be protection of judges from blackmail and threats, threat or violence against a law enforcement officer, and foreign agents need to be brought out "to clean water" ..... but at the same time, in our country with rampant corruption, it will be possible to plant anyone by holding a trial without the accused. In general, these laws were written only so that Janek would steer "forever". We do not care what laws are adopted. What matters here is how they are applied locally.
    1. ty60
      ty60 30 January 2014 23: 03
      0
      And the main corrupt officials are in the executive branch, only they determine the implementation of lobbied laws.
  15. Karabin
    Karabin 30 January 2014 19: 52
    +7
    And having admired this, I finally made sure that the American propaganda machine works very efficiently

    I agree. But this is just a statement of a long-known fact.
    against the ideological enemies common to all of us, we need to act by unified methods.

    Again, I agree. We must act. And we had to act yesterday, and we won't even start tomorrow. Why? Yes, because the entire resource of the propaganda machine of our state is activated before the presidential and Duma elections. It is not worth explaining which party and president is the uncontested benefit for the country. In the inter-election period, either "all is well, beautiful marquise", in the absence of the authorities having a clear plan for the country's development, or "de-Stalinization", according to which the plan is clearly visible.
    both in Ukraine and in the rest of Russia

    + Jewish-Russian imperialist Wasserman. If the Russians on both sides of the pseudo-border would also consider, the American and EU citizens, the ambassadors would not rummage around Kiev as at home.
    1. 31231
      31231 31 January 2014 14: 10
      +1
      Yes, because the whole resource of the propaganda machine of our state is activated before the presidential and Duma elections. Which party and president for the country has no alternative good, is not worth explaining.

      Get a gang?

      In general, here, that you do not read the commentary, it feels like a man from the Kremlin. Knowing everything about power and about its "underwear". When you ask the question "How do you know about this?", You get a superintelligent and reasoned answer "Yes, everyone knows and sees, you are only blind." In the best case, a link to the handshake media is attached to the answer, or the media does not particularly filter their chatter.
  16. SPACE
    SPACE 30 January 2014 19: 54
    +10
    Quote: Author
    I and another fellow traveler first with a swift attempt to convince them. Then, when they realized that it was unrealistic

    That's for sure, there are also many of these ... fool
    Quote: Author
    The main thing - fellow travelers unanimously said: the current government in itself is criminal

    Well, that’s their first priority, then they all made it ... laughing
    Quote: Author
    and there it will be seen

    Stupidity is a dangerous and insidious mental illness transmitted by the media and its main cunning is that a person thinks he is healthy and tries to convince others of this.
    Quote: Author
    And having admired this, I finally became convinced that the American propaganda machine works very efficiently, that its products are littered with heads in Ukraine and the rest of Russia

    It’s better to understand it later than never, it was clear as a day back in 91 and the American car was not so scary as a crowd of its own fools.
    To author +
    1. 31231
      31231 31 January 2014 14: 14
      +3
      Stupidity is a dangerous and insidious mental illness transmitted by the media and its main cunning is that a person thinks he is healthy and tries to convince others of this.


      At the same time, they so sincerely believe in their handshake and "truthful" media. Everything else is considered propaganda. Their slogans are similar to ours "Get out gang! Ganba! = PZhiV! Saw everywhere!"
  17. Michael_59
    Michael_59 30 January 2014 20: 02
    +8
    The states of their twin towers did not hesitate to bang to start the war - that they are some kind of Ukraine. The fuse is thicker - more noise.
  18. optimist
    optimist 30 January 2014 20: 07
    +9
    I read the article and comments from respected members of the forum. Of course, the unfortunate facts are obvious: both foreign "puppeteers" and crazy "Nazis" .. But let's look at this situation from all sides and we will not indiscriminately record all the protesters and protesters as "Nazis" and "corrupt". Now I communicate a lot with my acquaintances in Ukraine (I myself am an ethnic Ukrainian) and try to draw conclusions on my own, and not use only mass media clichés. The current Ukrainian government, headed by the president (a petty criminal in the past), has led a smart, rich and beautiful country into a complete za. I ask right away: let's not talk about "elections" and other "democratic husks". All the current elections (both in Ukraine and in the countries of the former USSR) can be compared with the game of "Lokha" against a railroad scammer. Those. By definition, there are no “legitimate” ways of changing the government, because the government itself has provided all options to prevent its “replacement”. Let's remember October 1917: grandfather Lenin, as far as everyone knows, also took power not quite legally (according to the then laws of the Republic of Ingushetia). And if not for this event, most of the current members of the forum, perhaps, would not have appeared at all. I think that after a while, when Russians will have to tighten their belts, pay more for food, gasoline, utilities, pay taxes on housing at market prices and much more, many will look at current events in Ukraine in a completely different way. And if everything was fine and wonderful in Ukraine, some State Department and the Nazis would do something there ...
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 20: 17
      +7
      optimist, you are right the main fault lies not with nags, yatsenyuk, tyagnibok, natsik, state departments .... but at Yanek. He simply lost his sense of proportion, rowing everything for himself.
      1. 31231
        31231 31 January 2014 14: 20
        +4
        You are right, the main fault lies not with nags, yatsenyuk, tyagnibok, natsik, state departments .... but at Yanek. He simply lost his sense of proportion, rowing everything for himself.


        I was not interested, but now I wonder, on the basis of what sources Janek was "made" a thief?
        "Not good" media Poroshenko?
        Do you know how "Freedom of Speech" differs from "Freedom of Pestezh"?
        You have to answer for the "word", but not for the "pestle". With the help of the same "pestezh" in the necessary media, the citizens of Ukraine merged Kuchma. It's good that I live in Russia and we have a bunch of whistleblowers for "non-profit" sources.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 January 2014 20: 37
      +12
      Quote: optimist
      And if everything in Ukraine was good and wonderful, the hell with some State Department and Natsik did something there ...

      And you remember Libya and how people lived there before the "revolution". The salaries there were no match for ours, the newlyweds were given money to buy an apartment, gasoline cost a penny, study for free, etc. etc.! But still there were dissatisfied, but rather bought ones, who made a mess thanks to the West. As you will not understand, these color revolutions are needed by the oligarchs, ordinary people from them, only grief. Put a machine gun in the hands of a monkey and it will start shooting indiscriminately. And we for these oligarchs, in their opinion, are monkeys. So they rake in the heat with someone else's hands. There will be no oligarchy, peace and tranquility will come in the country. And while they are in power, we will not see a calm life as our ears.
      1. optimist
        optimist 30 January 2014 20: 56
        +4
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And you remember Libya and how people lived there before the "revolution".

        Libya "got burned" because of the same thing, because of what it is now to smoke .. but at Janek's: both tried to sit with one ass on a heap of "chairs" and wave to everyone.
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        There will be no oligarchy, peace and tranquility will come in the country. And while they are in power, we cannot see a quiet life like our own ears.

        But this is a very sensible idea. After 91, throughout the post-Soviet space, people were divided (according to the apt expression of some satirist) "into those who were able to grab, and those who did not." From here it is necessary to "dance" ...
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 31 January 2014 09: 44
          +3
          Quote: optimist
          Libya "got burned" because of the same thing, because of what it is now to smoke .. but at Janek's: both tried to sit with one ass on a heap of "chairs" and wave to everyone.

          I do not deny that Gaddafi was ours and yours, only the help to Sarkozy in the elections, which cost him. But it was about the well-being of the people in this country, and there, you must admit, they did not live badly. As the saying goes: "They do not seek good from good!"
      2. klavyr
        klavyr 30 January 2014 23: 08
        +1
        ... As you do not understand, these color revolutions are needed by the oligarchs ...
        - and more precisely, the whole rainbow revolution is needed by those who create oligarchs.
        1. 31231
          31231 31 January 2014 14: 40
          +1
          and to put it more precisely, then all this rainbow revolution is needed by those who create oligarchs.

          Well, you will speak now. It's just that some legarchs are squeezing from others. Change of owners of capital, but not the life of the people. Some media say that one of the sponsors of the Maidan is legarch Poroshenko. He owns, among other things, the "non-profitable" 5th channel.
          "Why is he pouring money against Janek ?!" - this is the main question. There are two answers: either someone from the authorities is trying to squeeze something out of him, or he is from someone.
    3. Sergh
      Sergh 30 January 2014 20: 47
      +7
      Quote: optimist
      when the Russians will have to tighten their belts, pay more for groceries

      Nah, not an optimist. Globa 2.0!
      Quote: optimist
      And if in Ukraine everything was good and wonderful, the hell is any State Department and Natsik did something there

      If WOULD..., this is another matter, in our opinion, so the desire to dream about gold and silver, but sometimes you have to take off your pink glasses, at least in front of the morning shower, and here, bam, reality is pretty good. And do not worry about the Russians, we can communicate with the Swamp, more precisely, drain painlessly, learn as soon as possible.
      1. optimist
        optimist 30 January 2014 20: 59
        -5
        Quote: Sergh
        we are able to communicate with the Swamp, more precisely, drain painlessly, learn as soon as possible.

        When I hear such phrases, I immediately understand that their author is not watching anything, except for "Channel 1". Thank God that at least they were not assigned to the "gay" ones, and thanks for that !!! laughing
        1. Midshipman
          Midshipman 4 February 2014 12: 32
          0
          Except for the worn-out argument about the "first channel" you have nothing to justify with. Do not consider others stupid than yourself just because you are watching "Rain" and listening to "Echo".
    4. ty60
      ty60 30 January 2014 23: 11
      +2
      Yes, no one doubts. No one is trying to overturn the power in Canada. There are no problems, no options.
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    6. pan_nor
      pan_nor 31 January 2014 06: 05
      +2
      Lenin did not take power. Her kagbe Trotius (being the chairman of the Petrosoviet) picked up ...
      And RI by that time more than half a year has not been.
    7. Anper
      Anper 31 January 2014 10: 47
      +2
      Quote: optimist
      The current Ukrainian government, led by the president (a minor felon in the past), has led a smart, rich and beautiful country into a complete za zdintsu.

      What is it, with whom was she smart, beautiful and rich? Before Prof. Yushchen brought the country to its full bloom, so you have to understand?
      1. 31231
        31231 31 January 2014 14: 42
        +1
        What is it, with whom was she smart, beautiful and rich?


        Comrade Optimist seems to come from Ukraine. wink He knows better. I hope to answer when Ukraine panuvala.
  19. shelva
    shelva 30 January 2014 20: 15
    +2
    They gave tremendous power to the salesmen (third), and we wonder - where did the enemies of the fatherland suddenly come from? And who shapes public opinion ?, who is more convenient to drive sedition into the brain?
    In such Maydan times, the media should be controlled by the state, which would limit the spread of any informational infection, and objectively cover what is happening.
    1. ty60
      ty60 30 January 2014 23: 18
      +2
      And I always compare the comments of the federals first with independent channels. Although who is now independent? Sometimes only language is from the brain.
  20. Stiletto
    Stiletto 30 January 2014 20: 18
    +4
    Quote: Vladimir 70
    the laws adopted on January 16 are quite democratic and apply in all Western countries.


    But the West does not know this, and they diligently pretend that they do not want to know. And we should more often poke them into soft and warm, ask questions: "How would your country react to the deliberate harm to the health of the police?" and disseminate more widely the answers to these questions. Where are the resources of the official media, which have been well fed all this time? Where is the new agency "Russia Segodnya", which should become the conductor of our state ideology in the West? Why do we even have to read on our website what they think about the situation in Ukraine, George Clowney, the elderly Terminator of the outdated T-100 series, homosexuals and porno girls, as well as all those who in principle cannot think?
    Now we are merging the first Ukrainian one in exactly the same way as the first Chechen one in terms of media coverage. When will the "correction of errors" in the information war begin?
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 20: 30
      +2
      Stiletto, they tried to poke their noses in the West, but they said - in a handehoch, you have no democracy. Who in the West will be allowed to listen to the new agency "Russia Today"? Russia must first clean its "Augean stables", then take Lousy by the ass, and only then not merge the "first Ukrainian". Otherwise it is a fight against "windmills"
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 30 January 2014 20: 56
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir 70
        clean your "Augean stables", then take Lousy's ass *

        I beg your pardon, I just left the taiga yesterday, and the "Augees" and Lousy are who?
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 21: 04
          0
          For the "out of the taiga": Lousy - Yanukovych, "Augean ..." in a figurative sense - extreme disorder and neglect, shit accumulated since the 90s.
      2. 31231
        31231 31 January 2014 14: 54
        +1
        Russia must first clean its "Augean stables", then take Lousy by the ass, and only then not merge the "first Ukrainian".


        It's funny. At what I hear from the next "clairvoyant" from Ukraine. Nobody pulls them by the language, but they are talkative and carry the "truth" to the Russian masses "Yes, we have a mess in the country, but they steal no less from you in Russia."
        But for some reason, not one chatterbox did not bother to look at the objective indicator "GDP per capita in PPP (dollars per year)."
        And it says:
        55th place - Russia - 17;
        62 place - Belarus - 15 634;
        69th place - Kazakhstan - 13;
        85th place - Azerbaijan - 10;
        96th place - Turkmenistan - 8;
        105th place - Ukraine - 7. "
        Maybe it's not a bobbin?
  21. sinukvl
    sinukvl 30 January 2014 20: 24
    +26
    - Mykola, and sho tse "associated membership"?
    - Well, godmother, Ukraine will participate in the EU.
    - So it will enter the EU?
    “No, he won’t enter, but he will participate.”
    - Yak so?
    - Well, approximately, like eggs in sexual intercourse: they participate, but do not enter, and so, hang around.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 31 January 2014 02: 45
      +1
      Very accurate and figurative!
      + 100
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 31 January 2014 02: 45
      +1
      Very accurate and figurative!
      + 100
  22. pink
    pink 30 January 2014 20: 26
    +2
    Everything is written correctly
  23. aud13
    aud13 30 January 2014 20: 46
    +5
    Western propaganda fits so well into people's heads because these heads sometimes see how their current power behaves in life. Corruption, lawlessness, etc., falling living standards in Ukraine.
    If Yanukovych would achieve an increase in the standard of living of the population during his reign and not shine with his relatives in obscure business projects, then the basis for protests would be much smaller.
  24. Yugra
    Yugra 30 January 2014 21: 11
    +2
    There must be a proactive monitoring of the interests of the State Department in Russia, and in the future, destruction of channels such as rain, Moscow echo, faces. There are no ceremonies with pseudo-journal from these channels. Dubina’s head, and to the jail, or out of the country. Otherwise, reap what happens in Ukraine
  25. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 30 January 2014 21: 25
    +6
    Quote: Karabin
    I agree. But this is just a statement of a long-known fact.

    That's the point! I just tried to lay out my thoughts, but realized that there would be too much article. I typed the text five times and then erased it. To put it simply, our politicians and aligarchs want to sit on the profits from the "pipe" and they are all satisfied with it. Well, you still need to give a handout to the people so that they do not rebel. In general, it turns out that we are losing both the information war and the domestic economy, and as a result we can lose the union republics. In general, I am an optimist, but I may not wait until our bright capitalist welfare for all Russians angry
  26. Gardamir
    Gardamir 30 January 2014 21: 27
    +2
    After reading this. I want to ask Mr. Putin why we do not have state television? We often have anti-state channels that pour mud, people living in this country, the country itself, and heroes of the past and present.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 30 January 2014 22: 06
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      After reading this. I want to ask Mr. Putin why we do not have state television?

      From the history of VGTRK

      The All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company was established on July 14, 1990. A few months later, Radio of Russia went on the air.
      In 1998, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation, all media assets were merged into a holding. So in Russia the largest corporation of state electronic mass media appeared, which is present in almost all niches of modern Russian television.
      1. ty60
        ty60 30 January 2014 23: 27
        0
        Yes have already passed
  27. alone
    alone 30 January 2014 21: 27
    -1
    To the point of all kinds of alliances and integrations. It is better to be neutral and cooperate with bilateral honest relations.
  28. delfinN
    delfinN 30 January 2014 22: 15
    +5
    Quote: polkovnik manuch
    Wasserman really argues from the standpoint of the great F.M.Dostoevsky, who in the West and in the USA was read better than ours.

    Of course, dear Comrade Colonel, in order to know what weapons to beat the enemy, you need to thoroughly study him, including his soul. And what they planned in the middle of the last century is successfully and painstakingly turned into life in the present century.
    From the Allen Dulles Doctrine (1945):
    “We will find our like-minded people, our assistants and allies in Russia itself. Episode by episode will be played out the grand tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final extinction of his identity.
    In government, we will create chaos, confusion. We will quietly, but actively and constantly contribute to the tyranny of officials, bribe takers, and unscrupulousness. Honesty and decency will be ridiculed and will not be needed by anyone, will turn into a relic of the past.
    Rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear: and the hostility of peoples, above all, hostility and hatred of the Russian people - all this we will cleverly and inconspicuously cultivate.
    In this way we will shake generation after generation ... We will fight for people from childhood, youth, we will always make the main bet on young people, we will begin to corrupt, corrupt, and corrupt it. We will make cosmopolitans of them. ” This is an abridged version, but here the whole point.

    And another quote, as if about our liberals: "Of the plants, Christ cursed only one barren fig tree. Of the animals, he killed fertile pigs, allowing demons to inhabit them.
    Christ cursed only the scribes who combine the sterility of a dry fig tree with the almost mechanical productivity of pigs.
    "Woe to you, scribes!" - this is said not to the people and not to the aristocracy, but to the intelligentsia of that time, the class that buried itself in the sacred books, enslaved and lost its common sense in the hypnosis of words. "
    (Mikhail Osipovich Menshikov "Letters to the Russian nation." 1907.)
    1. klavyr
      klavyr 30 January 2014 23: 18
      +2
      Dulles' plan comes to life in front of a bewildered audience
  29. Lumumba
    Lumumba 30 January 2014 22: 30
    0
    Quote: Ugra
    There must be a proactive monitoring of the interests of the State Department in Russia, and in the future, destruction of channels such as rain, Moscow echo, faces. There are no ceremonies with pseudo-journal from these channels. Dubina’s head, and to the jail, or out of the country. Otherwise, reap what happens in Ukraine


    Everything has its time. The quieter you go, the further you'll get. Water - stone drains. Gradually, quietly, calmly, slowly and carefully.
  30. aviator65
    aviator65 30 January 2014 23: 16
    +1
    "Of course, the Maidan trident - Klitschko, Tyagnibok and Yatsenyuk - is not suitable for the role of leaders, but this is not important. In a country where more than 40 million people live, there will be suitable leaders - you just need to clear a place for them."
    ... There are few real violent ones - here there are no leaders.
    (V.S. Vysotsky)
  31. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 30 January 2014 23: 22
    0
    I think all the figures on grants would be nice to deprive of citizenship after the Olympics and Ukraine’s defenses. It’s incompatible with the position of a Russian citizen. Send them to fight for rights at the address of the accounting department of grant-raising.
  32. scientist
    scientist 30 January 2014 23: 26
    +1
    In order to wage an information war in Ukraine so effectively, a very developed network of influences is needed not only in the media, but also at the personal level. It is simply impossible to organize this without a solid foundation and preparation. Therefore, it is not entirely correct to make scapegoats in the form of the West and the United States. Putin and the Russian government have repeatedly stated that they will not interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine and other states in any way. And as you know, a holy place is never empty. Here, as always, Churchill's words are very appropriate: "The Russians create difficulties for themselves and then heroically overcome them." Not only did it create a fertile ground for the powerful Russian opposition through non-intervention, which was close friends with everyone who is against Russia, especially Saakashvili, but also promised huge financial assistance to Ukraine. Like we don't care who will be in power, we help the people. In my opinion this is ridiculous! The people will not even notice this help, since in the end a huge tidbit from the excess income from the resale of cheap gas and bad loans will go to the budget of Ukraine. And even there they will be able to "competently" sing it, and then they will still present shading to Russia about the shortage of delivery, or even something more plague. After all, the main thing now in Ukraine is that everyone is against everyone. No matter why, the main thing that unites this chaos is a common enemy in the east, who is to blame, that he is also a sucker.
    It's time to understand that friendship and good relations are not a commodity, you cannot buy it. You have to fight for them literally! And an attempt to bribe, firstly, is very expensive, and secondly, it aggravates the situation by the fact that financial groups are inevitably created, which begin to parasitize and then blackmail the authorities. Perhaps Yulia Tymoshenko was the first to understand this and tried to stop this parasitic economy while it was not too late, but overestimated her strength. And Russian politicians, instead of the most cruel way to suppress the ordered criminal case and persecutions, just mumbled something about the ordered character and human rights. As a result, they themselves opened the "Pandora's Box". Now it's the turn of the common people, both Russian and Ukrainian, who, at the cost of heroic efforts, must overcome these difficulties.
    1. optimist
      optimist 31 January 2014 00: 06
      -3
      Quote: scientist
      Like we don't care who will be in power, we help the people. In my opinion this is ridiculous! The people will not even notice this help, since in the end a huge tidbit from the excess income from the resale of cheap gas and bad loans will go to the budget of Ukraine. And even there they will be able to "competently" sing it, and then they will still show the shade of Russia about the shortage of delivery, or even something more plague.

      The thing is that Tupin has the psychology of a typical market huckster: "Right now I will give everyone a dough and they will make me beautiful !!!" Those. the entire Russian government thinks that everything can be bought and sold (like itself). Throughout the post-Soviet years, Russia either kissed Ukraine in ... ooo, when it was necessary to solve something like a fleet in Sevastopol, then it would go all over the world, accusing the "klyati kh.okhlov" of gas theft and other sins. And now the Vovan has finally realized that having pulled Ukraine to itself, the West is throwing a stranglehold around its neck in the form of control of the gas transportation system of Ukraine and NATO bases on the borders of the central Russian regions. But, as they say, it's too late to drink "Borjomi" ... Here it already smells (in the event of the collapse of Ukraine) of the need to send troops to the eastern regions.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 31 January 2014 02: 36
        +2
        There will be no entry of troops into Ukraine, and we do not need this. Society should "mature", as in Armenia, for example. We slept for a long time to a lullaby from the State Department. But loans without guarantees are also not worth giving. Let the state be built first. Or they will hold a referendum on joining Russia. Just don’t scare you with millions of refugees. Nobody will run. They themselves must cope.
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    2. optimist
      optimist 31 January 2014 00: 10
      0
      Quote: scientist
      It’s time to already understand that friendship and good relations are not goods, they cannot be bought.

      But this Vova will never understand. For he is used to buying everything. Buying the loyalty of their accomplices by "not noticing" their theft, buying "mir" in the North Caucasus by filling it with federal money, etc., etc.
  33. cfuf
    cfuf 30 January 2014 23: 29
    -2
    A. Wasserman is probably the smartest, and we are so easy to walk on the Maidan
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 31 January 2014 02: 43
      +3
      So if only for a walk. So far, the heroes of Ukraine are the guys from "Berkut" and the policemen, and not walking around with a "Molotov cocktail".
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  34. vikov
    vikov 31 January 2014 00: 04
    -9


    It is shameful and painful to look at the people.
    1. housekeeper
      housekeeper 31 January 2014 00: 33
      +3
      Give to this mu.le in the snout ...
      1. vikov
        vikov 31 January 2014 01: 18
        -1
        Logically, it is much simpler to give to the snout alone than to put on many clothes and dress, or to give an opportunity to earn money.
    2. Firstvanguard
      Firstvanguard 31 January 2014 17: 56
      +1
      It is a shame and pain to look at this duck, for some reason, when he introduced himself, before asking questions, he did not tell who and how much he paid!
      Give him a shovel and a broom and other equipment, after everything is over, put in order the streets of Kiev. Let him show that he knows how to work, I will kill radish.
  35. konvalval
    konvalval 31 January 2014 00: 06
    +3
    Quote: Evgenij.
    they don’t want, but they want.

    Sorry for the girls, very young

    And they do not "want" and do not "want", but in Ukrainian: "want".
  36. konvalval
    konvalval 31 January 2014 00: 10
    0
    There is something to be found, so only who will let them into power?
  37. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 31 January 2014 01: 27
    +3
    These work ... request
  38. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 31 January 2014 01: 30
    +3
    Our perception ... from Western values.
    1. vikov
      vikov 31 January 2014 01: 38
      -6
      There is a saying in Americans: If so smart, why not a millionaire? if our values ​​are so preferable then why do we live like this? what many children, if the opinion prevails in society - there is nothing to produce poverty, etc. etc.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 31 January 2014 02: 52
        +3
        And where is your "society" located?
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      3. erg
        erg 31 January 2014 13: 33
        +2
        Or maybe that’s why he’s not a millionaire, because he’s smart. In Russia, there is such a saying - not the one who has a lot is happy, but the one who has enough.
      4. Firstvanguard
        Firstvanguard 31 January 2014 18: 04
        +3
        There is a saying in Americans: If so smart, why not a millionaire?

        In order to become a millionaire, it is not enough to have a mind; one must also have a lack of conscience.
  39. zloi_dekabr
    zloi_dekabr 31 January 2014 01: 58
    0
    And yet, in my opinion, the problems of the Maidans and other beloga ... oh "opposition" should be solved in the manner of the Chinese, and even better by the first arrest of all this bastard, and brainwashed, and ideological, and those that for the ovsky silversmiths breaking their country!
  40. Alex
    Alex 31 January 2014 05: 24
    +2
    Sadly, we must admit that in the information war we always lost to the West. In fact, our defeat in the Cold War and the subsequent collapse of the USSR was a consequence of the fact that the West beat us in propaganda of our values. Having bought ourselves into beautiful candy wrappers we ruined our great country. Now, of course, we have become smarter, but we persistently continue to step on the same rake. What do we see in Ukraine? Again, the complete absence of even attempts to resist the aggressive onslaught of Western propaganda. The result, as they say, is obvious ...
  41. delfinN
    delfinN 31 January 2014 05: 36
    +4
    Most on Maydown:
  42. duchy
    duchy 31 January 2014 06: 03
    +1
    The age-old question "What to do?" in any case, we need to break the propaganda in the media and TV, Western "values". Like that; mutual picking in shorts of "different stars", an idle and easy life, easy receipt of financial resources, "achievements of foreign scientists", and other various other ideological rubbish. I suggest:
    1. At the forefront is the coverage and promotion of domestic information.
    2. Remove Western cheapness from the screens (militants and other crap, if shown, then at late night).
    3. Close "Trakhodromy", well, you know what.
    4. Demonstrate the life of people whose labor the oligarchs and the rest of the nouveau riche live so elegantly.
    Well, with a dozen points. In general, it seems that with the existing laws on the press, the authorities either do not control their implementation or are not able to do so. Or do not want to develop The ideological component of the foundation of the state giving this basic function to the mercy of various kinds of "democrats". what
    1. Firstvanguard
      Firstvanguard 31 January 2014 18: 12
      +1
      Or do they not want to develop the ideological component of the foundation of the state, leaving this main function at the mercy of various kinds of "democrats".

      Think about the ideological concept war! If you don’t know, then war is death, crippled fates, devastation and poverty. Any war, hot, cold or ideological. Authorities are people of various views and aspirations, including dermocratic sad
      No one will give us the ideological component of the state’s foundation without a fight, don’t even wait. Develop it in yourself, in your children and loved ones, there is no other way. The fact that you or I can not rinse the brain as maydanuty, the merit of the parents. That is why there is a juvenile called to destroy the family.
  43. pan_nor
    pan_nor 31 January 2014 06: 07
    +1
    Quote: cfuf
    A. Wasserman is probably the smartest, and we are so easy to walk on the Maidan

    would have worked better
  44. samoletil18
    samoletil18 31 January 2014 07: 30
    +4
    Mentioned in the article "Echo of Moscow" is funded by sponsors and belongs to "Gazprom", "our property". Here are just "Echo", through the lips of Gonopol, all the dissenting names are called "cannibals", and other presenters of the broadcast chatter up an alternative point of view. The question is: why do users of all of us (Russians) subsoil allow the anti-state media to broadcast the full anti-Russian program? Or someone at the top keeps his Maidan in reserve, just in case?
  45. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 31 January 2014 07: 39
    +5
    Gentlemen, bloodthirsty revolutionaries! This is about you - "... it was the" lumpen "who were the main driving force of any revolution - people who were always dissatisfied and did not want to work were ready to kill for the sake of a ghostly opportunity to get to the top and get the fattest pieces without working ..."
  46. Keeper
    Keeper 31 January 2014 07: 47
    +1
    ... the method is simple: select a piece of land that is fenced on all sides and "register" everyone who wants to LIVE FREE! Let them not interfere with our flawed enjoy our difficult existence))
    And even better - let them already go to Europe .... or America ... After all, every country has its own customs and laws !!!

    As one friend of the classic said - "The mind cannot understand Russia" - let them learn to love their Motherland!
  47. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 31 January 2014 09: 08
    +1
    Dear Colleagues! Of course, the propaganda machine of the State Department certainly works, of course liberoids, alas, the norm of modern life ...
    But besides all this, one should not forget that according to the method of perceiving and assimilating information, mankind is divided into three large groups of individuals: audials, visuals and kinesthetics. That is, the first ones are perceived mainly by ear, the second ones are after reading something or seeing, but the latter are perceived only through direct influence, personal sad experience, that is, in other words, until they receive ... a ball, they don’t understand anything. Even the abilities of the excellent logician and popularizer of Wasserman are not enough for the especially stubborn ...
    And this is not national, alas, everywhere. You just have to be ready at some point to bring the light of truth to every person.
  48. mabuta
    mabuta 31 January 2014 09: 48
    +4
    And here is their ideal .... http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/970/zwmw57.jpg
  49. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 31 January 2014 09: 56
    +1
    Unfortunately, it was not possible to be surprised. At the same time, we have adequate laws, but they are practically not implemented. A huge number of media outlets are controlled by the liberalist mafia. Even those media that receive state support, and even more so have the participation of the state, often take an anti-Russian position under the guise of "democracy", it is time to edit the constitution on the issue of state ideology - this time, and to understand the state support and the type of state representatives in the media are two. Why did the proceedings on the creation of "Dozhd" stalled, the funds were buried there, they are ours - the taxpayers' funds, they created a trash heap with this money.
  50. Oleg56.ru
    Oleg56.ru 31 January 2014 10: 54
    +5
    You enlightened your mind,
    You saw the truth
    And dearly loved the nations,
    And he hated his wisdom.

    You rubbed your hands from our failures
    With a sly laugh, he listened to the news,
    When the shelves fled
    And the banner of our honor perished.

    A.S. Pushkin on the liberals of Russia.