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What awaits the Russians. The end of post-Soviet Ukraine

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The anti-Russian revolution in Ukraine is increasing day by day. The process has already gone so far that it is clear to almost everyone: there is no return to the former post-Soviet Ukraine, which is unsteady, vague and constantly sweeping. The seam, which barely fastened two ethnocultural plates alien to each other, burst, dispersed throughout its length. And now, most likely, already completely. Even if it now succeeds for a short time to blunt the severity of the conflict, the country will still not return to its former state.


The footage of the barricades erected in the center of the city, the marching columns of the Bandera militants and the lively fighters of the “Berkut” awaken the darkest, most painful memories from the beginning of 90's in the Russian soul. More than twenty years ago, in many capitals of the Union republics of the then unified country, almost brutalized rioters from among the local chauvinist separatists, who were applauded not only by the West, but also by the entire Russian liberal intelligentsia (she applauds the rebel insurgents), also almost here. And the representatives of the authorities, that they were allied and local, were no less cowardly and treacherous than the President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, along with his team, behaved in these crucial days.

I didn’t want to remind what the Russian people expected on the outskirts of the suburbs that had fallen away from the Allied center after the victory of the radical nationalist forces. The Baltic apartheid turned out to be a relatively easy outcome for many of them. But the rage of radicals in Dushanbe, Grozny or Chisinau, which took place with the criminal acquiescence of the authorities in Moscow, led to real wars, ethnic cleansing and blood flow. Ethnoterror, which was once experienced by the inhabitants of those regions, in the near future now threatens the Russian and Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine. Honed Bandera trident brought over their heads.

Judging by the reports from the scene, the situation looks even more serious than many experts and political scientists estimate it. Here, for example, we are informed that right-wing militants seize the administration in the western regions and throw their heads out of the offices into the street, immediately starting to form their own authorities, recognizing not the Kiev government, but the self-appointed People’s Rada. This is a very important nuance! This is not a “color” revolution with its postmodern carnival antics anymore - it is a revolution in its traditional sense. This means that the rebels want to overthrow not just Yanukovych and his inner circle, but they want to demolish the entire system of power that has developed in Ukraine in the post-Soviet years. And rebuild your own instead. “Color” revolutionaries in their place would not force anyone to sign resignation statements, putting a knife to the throat, they would not be enough for a regional official to simply declare their support, “joined the insurgent people”. But today’s right radicals (and, most importantly, their foreign curators) this is not enough. They do not need to restart the “orange” program - they need a completely reorganized country.

The news that in Lviv, the militants began to openly create armed units - the so-called National Guard - did not cause much resonance in the Russian media. Sadly Apparently, for many years of domination in our political life of all sorts of imitations, frauds and imitations, a significant part of Russian society still does not perceive the rebellion in Ukraine as a serious threat not only to the Russians living there, but also to Russia itself. He thinks out of inertia that everything is happening there as if for fun, that “clans will fight and agree”.

Strongly doubt. The seizures of the regional centers, the creation of their own authorities and armed detachments - this is not at all a joke and they can’t make a fool of themselves just to scare Yanukovych. The actions of the rebels have long spoken for themselves. The ban of the Party of Regions and the Communist Party of Ukraine in the west of Ukraine is only the first step in a chain of real persecutions prepared by right-wing militants of the “Klyat Moskals”.

In such circumstances, a civil war between the raging West and still sluggish and reluctant to kick back the Southeast would not be the worst outcome. Exactly so, I am fully aware of my own words: a sharp confrontation and even armed conflict in such a situation is better than continuing the victorious march across Ukraine of the newly-minted “Center soldiers”. In a direct conflict, you can win or at least fight back, pushing Bandera as far as possible to the West. Such a direct clash will inevitably pose a crucial question for Russia, as if its government and president would not evade an answer to it under the pretext of the Sochi Olympics. Its outcome will be largely decisive for historical the fate of Donbass, New Russia and Crimea, the historical fate of our entire country. The victory promises the Russians reunification on both sides of the border, that is, the first step towards a further Russian irredent. And this is one of the most important strategic goals for us today.

The defeat of the Southeast in the Ukrainian confrontation (and even worse - surrender without resistance) paints us one darker picture than the other. The point is not even the loss of “geopolitical spheres of influence” (although they are important) - the point is the prospect of the largest defeat in Russia and the Russian world in the entire post-Soviet history (which exists over all Belovezh’s borders), fraught not only with a round of oppression of “moskalnennye” throughout Ukraine, but also ethnic cleansing and outright terror. Complacency in the Ukrainian question is completely inappropriate. The Serbs, during the days of the Olympic Games in Sarajevo, probably also did not assume that soon they would be expelled and massacre. However, what on the eve would have been perceived by the majority as the delirium of those obsessed with the persecution mania, a few years later became an eerie reality. Let today in Ukraine, all those who do not fall under the Bandera criteria of national and civil first-rate, think very seriously. And about how in such a case all the anti-Russian forces inside the Russian Federation will happily come to life, I don’t even say - just listen to the Echo of Moscow or read the next appeal of the Caucasian bandit underground to the Russian population. The war against the entire non-Bandera part of Ukraine has already begun, and today it has only one choice: to capitulate or accept the battle. The sooner she decides to fight back, the less will be losses and casualties.

But who exactly can stop the onslaught of the right-wing radicals?

Everything is clear with Viktor Yanukovych, who continues to nominally maintain the presidency. This actor cannot call forth any other feelings besides endless aversion.

With most of his entourage too. Prime Minister Mykola Azarov, of course, is not God knows what a fighter, but at least - the only person from among the top leaders of the country who directly called what was happening with a coup d'état - 28 resigned in January. And he could not help but present in such a situation, like any self-respecting politician. Indeed, in fact, the right to decide the fate of his closest comrade and second person in the country, Mr. Yanukovych frankly granted not the people's deputies from the Verkhovna Rada and not even acting as negotiators to the leaders of street crowds, but to the crowds from Grushevsky and Maidan. The cynical statements of Arseniy Yatsenyuk that his response to the presidential proposal will depend on the views of the Maidan, except as a mockery of the democratic procedures can not be called. In fact, he makes it clear that now the head of state and not even the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada (legal representatives of the people, by the way) are removing and appointing the government in Ukraine, but a few thousand who are not authorized area gorlopans and street pogromists. The media hostile to Russia and Russian Ukraine are falsely identified with all the people.

Are the heads of law enforcement agencies, heads of government in the South-East of the country and members of the Party of Regions really ready to come to grips with the Bandera rebels?

Obviously, the vast majority do not. The Minister of Defense himself withdrew, most of the heads of regions outside of Galicia mumble and wait, the regional party members are shy and scatter. It is impossible to believe that they suddenly gain the courage. The one who is really ready to fight in such a critical situation begins to do this immediately and with all his might, and does not come out with endless and empty admonitions. And is it not naive to expect from the thieving and endlessly cynical post-Soviet bureaucrats the will to resist? In contrast, the Bandera militants, as they do not belong to, have in their hearts genuine ideals (albeit infinitely hostile to us). Eastern Ukrainian “business executives” and managers are only personal commercial interest.

All this applies equally to representatives of the oligarchic groups of the East, who, through the mouth of the business structures controlled by billionaire Rinat Akhmetov, have already expressed their position - a non-resistance position and, on the whole, completely loyal to the rebels.

A certain optimism on the background of this celebration of stupidity, cowardice and defeatism cause only resolute statements of deputies of the Supreme Council of Crimea. It is doubly gratifying that the first cases have already followed them: volunteer people's guards came out to patrol the streets of Sevastopol, the activities of the right-wing Freedom party (the legal wing of the right-wing rebels) in the Crimean Republic were banned, few supporters of the Westerners publicly kicked their kicks. I want to believe that the determination of the inhabitants of the Crimea to prevent the Bandera sabbath on their land will grow stronger, and the Crimea itself will become a strong stronghold of the Russian forces, ready to fight, and will serve as an inspiring example for all unstable and vacillating.
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  1. AVV
    AVV 30 January 2014 12: 57
    +71
    Bendera bastard, fascist henchmen raised their snout, Yanuk is Gorbach in 90 g. !!! Indecisiveness and venality lead Ukraine to a standstill !!! The further this goes on, the more victims will come later !!! You need to stop sending money to subsidized regions let them go to the Poles to work, although they hate Bendera there too !!! No negotiations with the opposition, the West has already written off the current government as a waste and is already applying sanctions to officials !!! It’s stupid to believe that the West will help, it’s necessary to be an idiot ? !!! Although the salvation of a drowning man is the work of the drowning man himself, you only need a desire and believe in your people, but he will not let you down in 1945, and will destroy these homo-idiots !!!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 15: 50
      +43
      Quote: AVV
      No negotiations with the opposition, the West has already written off the current government
      That's why it’s time for Yanukovych to decide who he is with. Prospects for Ukraine only in Russia. But he clings to the Ukrainian throne, not seeing that he is already on fire, but power like a drug. As a politician, he is already a corpse, in any case. hi
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        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 January 2014 18: 22
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          My Ukrainian mother-in-law says the same thing


          Alexander! Mother-in-law for Russia, sister-in-law for Europe, you don’t care where Ukraine goes, There is complete discord and lack of consensus smile
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 31 January 2014 13: 44
            0
            Quote: Ascetic
            Alexander! Mother-in-law for Russia, sister-in-law for Europe, you don’t care where Ukraine goes, There is complete discord and lack of consensus

            Here is more likely a complete picture of the situation - the fate of Ukraine excites only Ukrainians or those who are somehow connected with it. The rest is all in parallel.
          2. AVV
            AVV 31 January 2014 15: 38
            0
            Quote: Ascetic
            Quote: atalef
            My Ukrainian mother-in-law says the same thing


            Alexander! Mother-in-law for Russia, sister-in-law for Europe, you don’t care where Ukraine goes, There is complete discord and lack of consensus smile

            For another month, they should organize an open door for them in Europe !!! What would they lose their work during this period, then the opinion of their sister-in-law would change dramatically !!! Until you feel the charm of democracy in the Western style, to no purpose, to say anything! Smart learn from mistakes of others, and fools on their own !!!
      2. atalef
        atalef 30 January 2014 15: 55
        +27
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's why it’s time for Yanukovych to decide who he is with

        Yes, he decided a long time ago, but who will give him

        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Prospects for Ukraine only in Russia.

        My Ukrainian mother-in-law says the same thing
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's just he clings to the Ukrainian throne

        And who is he without a throne?
        Tymoshenko will be a neighbor
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        As a politician, he is already a corpse, in any case

        No, it’s rocking again.
        In general, I signed an agreement on new gas prices. 3 billion - already received. You can now bend to the West.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 16: 01
          +17
          Quote: atalef
          Yes, he decided a long time ago, but who will give him

          Yes, it’s easy to declare a popular referendum, it’s business.
          Quote: atalef
          No, it’s rocking again.

          A corpse without a head also twitches for a while.
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          2. atalef
            atalef 30 January 2014 16: 08
            +22
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Yes, it’s easy to declare a popular referendum, it’s business.

            It all depends on how you pose the question.
            For example -
            Do you want to live in a free community of European states
            Do you want a relapse of the famine
            (for example, questions in the Lviv region)
            Or as an example in the Crimea
            Would you like to live in a community of states where same-sex marriage is considered the norm
            The second question is simpler - Who is for joining Russia, tomorrow ...

            Here you see . depending on who sets how sets. therefore a referendum is a very relative thing
            1. mike_z
              mike_z 30 January 2014 17: 26
              +4
              Well, I still need to add - and depending on how to calculate even with sensible questions!
            2. Egoza
              Egoza 30 January 2014 18: 50
              +9
              Quote: atalef
              Do you want a relapse of the famine
              (for example, questions in the Lviv region)

              Lviv only screams about the famine. At a time when there was famine in Ukraine, Lviv and ZU were not part of the Ukrainian SSR! So they don’t understand this.
              1. Orik
                Orik 30 January 2014 21: 23
                +1
                It depends on what year. He was already in famine for 47 years.
              2. SSR
                SSR 30 January 2014 23: 44
                +2
                Heh, these dibIlys are shouting about mos.ka.l.ev [center] [/ center] at the knife .... I wonder how the citizens of Ukraine would like such "slogans" on the contrary, like urine "ho.khl.a" Jew "will be glad". Damn, the citizens of Ukraine must first of all fight back the local fascists, otherwise there is no point in helping, supporting ...
          3. My address
            My address 30 January 2014 16: 13
            +2
            And the more stupid a creature, the longer it twitches without a head. And that the president, it does not say anything about intelligence. Won Bush-less, too, as if softer, did not shine.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 30 January 2014 16: 17
              +2
              Quote: My address
              A corpse without a head also twitches for a while.

              you bury him early
              Cockroaches have been able to live headless for weeks, the entomologist Christopher Tipping from a college in Delaware Valley, Pennsylvania, USA (Delaware Valley College in Doylestown) came to this conclusion. The scientist carefully decapitated several individuals of the American cockroach (Periplaneta americana) under a microscope. Then he covered the wound with dental wax, after which the insects lived in the bank for several weeks.

              Just business, a kilo and a half wax. wassat
              1. saxa2103
                saxa2103 30 January 2014 18: 49
                +1
                I died that I couldn’t have ?? an interesting concept ,,,
          4. alone
            alone 30 January 2014 21: 36
            +2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Yes, it’s easy to declare a popular referendum, it’s business.


            As soon as this is done, they will devour him alive)) Do you think the State Department will benefit from a referendum?))
          5. Val_y
            Val_y 31 January 2014 14: 01
            0
            Duc ssykotno, "referendum", may not show how the Soviet Union tried to legally ruin, failed, ruined with pogroms and blood So Yanyk is trying to save face in a bad game. But I agree that he has "0" chances in Europe, and now everyone has forgotten the hive and the Europe is no longer needed. Boxer wondered that "Ulki's question is no longer condemned" so ... This card was not played, the trinomial was played.
      3. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 30 January 2014 16: 00
        +27
        the point is the prospect of the largest defeat in Russia and the Russian world in the entire post-Soviet history
        Of course I agree! Here are just "Russians don't give up!" The most interesting is yet to come .. And we know how to crush all kinds of scum.
        1. Vladimir.z.
          Vladimir.z. 30 January 2014 16: 16
          +4
          Quote: MIKHAN
          the matter lies in perspective ... the defeat of Russia and the Russian world

          In 1941, many also thought so .....

          ! "The most interesting is yet to come ..


          Although now it’s not 41, it will be a holiday, as they say on our street .... it’s a pity that you can’t put troops abroad so that officials do not run in packs to the other side.
          1. Roman A
            Roman A 30 January 2014 16: 45
            +6
            Quote: Vladimir.z.
            Quote: MIKHAN
            the matter lies in perspective ... the defeat of Russia and the Russian world

            In 1941, many also thought so .....

            ! "The most interesting is yet to come ..


            Although now it’s not 41, it will be a holiday, as they say on our street .... it’s a pity that you can’t put troops abroad so that officials do not run in packs to the other side.

            As Sergei Razumovsky said, the Russians when they see the real enemy are going to quickly quickly find the leader and strangle the reptile in the woods, but now there is no enemy (obvious) on our roads dying more than in Avgen And we will not give these creatures to us as a specific enemy ourselves fill yourself with 15 leam for servicing the pipe. A WAR IS ALREADY LONGER
        2. Luga
          Luga 30 January 2014 16: 54
          +10
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Yanuk is Gorbach in 90 G. !!

          Yanuk is the most unsuccessful cross between Nicholas II and Louis the Sixteenth. And fate awaits him the same. Unfortunately (or fortunately, I don’t know), there is neither Lenin nor Napoleon among the dibi.loids of the Maidan. Those who now make music there can only destroy, because the goal of their owners is not a change of power and the construction of a new state, but an eternal mess. There are no creators there and is not expected. Any stabilization in Ukraine, under any flag, will inevitably lead to its rapprochement with Russia, everyone understands this.
        3. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 30 January 2014 17: 24
          +8
          There may be a defeat, or maybe the Russian Federation and territory will grow, it all depends on GDP
        4. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 January 2014 18: 18
          +6
          Quote: MIKHAN
          the point is the prospect of the largest defeat in Russia and the Russian world in the entire post-Soviet history
          Of course I agree! Here are just "Russians don't give up!" The most interesting is yet to come .. And all the scum we can crush a great experience .


          our judoka is on the floor, but holds the opponent firmly, rests his foot on his stomach and, if nothing falls off, then a beautiful flight will take place over his head and a very painful landing on concrete.

          Source: http://politikus.ru/events/11891-shahmatnaya-partiya-na-ukraine.html
          Politikus.ru
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        5. GDP
          GDP 31 January 2014 12: 28
          -1
          the point is the prospect of the largest defeat in Russia and the Russian world in the entire post-Soviet history
          Of course I agree! Here are just "Russians don't give up!" The most interesting is yet to come ... and we know how to crush all kinds of scum.
          We will wait until the Olympics ends ....
      4. vkrav
        vkrav 30 January 2014 16: 14
        +9
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        the West has already written off the current government

        It's not true, uncle! Yanyk flushed himself into the toilet. And at the same time everyone who voted for him and everyone who worked for him. In a futile attempt to save the honestly stolen loot, he lost everything, including the future of his family.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 1 February 2014 10: 57
          0
          how did Gleb Zheglov say there? It was necessary to look after their women and not to scatter weapons, I’ll add the fuck to my children to poke around in business and throw rolls on 2 chairs.
      5. Tersky
        Tersky 30 January 2014 16: 27
        +2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's why it’s time for Yanukovych to decide who he is with.

        Igor, didn’t you learn the cases? belay .... Correct the mistake - pronoun he on SHE IS. hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 17: 44
          0
          Quote: Tersky
          Correct a mistake - pronoun

          The place of the estate is where they have it. While it is on the Maidan and have. Well or her. laughing
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 30 January 2014 17: 54
          +1
          Quote: Tersky
          Correct the mistake - he pronoun on SHE ..

          On the "IT"..
      6. Civil
        Civil 30 January 2014 16: 28
        +2
        I hope we will not give up both in Asia and the Caucasus ????
        1. Tex
          Tex 30 January 2014 18: 27
          +6
          add here Yugoslavia (help Russia! whoever didn’t forget these posters on the destroyed Orthodox churches) Iraq of the 90s, abandoned Cuba, surrendered to Misha (who is sitting in Germany for some reason) all of eastern Europe, and chewing snot party in 91m that allowed the collapse of the country .And that now we have only the consequences of the fall of the Union.
          1. polly
            polly 30 January 2014 19: 37
            0
            Oh, how I agree with you about the Communist Party! good
        2. Papakiko
          Papakiko 30 January 2014 23: 11
          +1
          Quote: Civil
          I hope we will not give up both in Asia and the Caucasus ????

          You are kind from which Bender site downloaded this picture?
          1. crbvbyjr
            crbvbyjr 31 January 2014 09: 23
            +1
            that’s exactly who he wants or not, but what Russian is that Ukrainians are one nation. Only artificially divided. Well, as if from the Russians there are Pomors and called them people.
          2. GDP
            GDP 31 January 2014 12: 34
            0
            You are kind from which Bender site downloaded this picture?


            The picture is correct - if we talk about those who put in the passport - Russian. If we talk about the Russian-speaking population, then the situation and percentages will be completely different ...

      7. avt
        avt 30 January 2014 17: 18
        +16
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's why it’s time for Yanukovych to decide who he is with.

        This, forgive me, about what ???? Well, really back in the days of Kuchma, when they clearly said - Ukraine is not Russia, when he sat down on his ass from the egg that fell into him, thinking that he was killed, did not understand what kind of poz personally and what he would do with Ukraine ?? Isn't 23 years old enough for you to understand that ALL, absolutely ALL presidents are building a nationalist Ukraine and nothing else! They absolutely do not care about people striving to preserve the Russian World and who are REALLY their support, they are not interested in them, and even annoy and interfere with converting a torn piece of the Empire into money, only by tearing the population of Ukraine from Russia through nationalist ideology could they really convert the country into loot. Yes, they do not need power as such - they will gladly sell it, as Yanukovych is doing now, selling the Berkut, which is not just a symbol - the support of power in the state, to be burned for the sake of personal safety and preservation of royalties from the sale of the country.
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's just he clings to the Ukrainian throne

        This is not clinging, since the time of the first Maidan, but this guano is floating with the flow of sticking green papers with the image of the dead Amer presidents to itself. Clinging and clinging to Julia Grikiants.
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Prospects for Ukraine only in Russia

        But the same Yanukovych practically burned out everything that was pro-Russian by creating the “Party of Regions.” This is a fact in the feeling - there is no really large-scale politician capable of raising Russians throughout pro-Russian Ukraine. They cannot work in anticipation.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 17: 51
          +5
          Quote: avt
          This is a fact in the feeling - there is no really large-scale politician capable of raising Russians throughout pro-Russian Ukraine

          Too emotionally answered, but basically true. Sam from Ukraine?
          1. avt
            avt 30 January 2014 19: 02
            +10
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Sam from Ukraine?
            No . But some of the information from "places" falls and so far I can discern reality from dumas. Back in the 90s I had a chance to communicate with people from Crimea who were standing near the authorities. Remember when Meshkov was chosen? The current hush-up in Ukraine is the apotheosis of the “independent” policy of the official authorities, conciliatory with the nationalists. But all these oligophrenics in the form of oligarchs and playing in the "Don Corleone" Kuchma-Yanukovych do not understand and will never understand that they will NEVER be able to saddle the nationalists. They have their own direct owners who picked up the teachers of the current tyagniboks directly from Hitler and feed them again Moreover, these are not the Nazis of Hitler, they do not have and will not have either the idea of ​​world domination, or the real, material opportunity to even create a truly independent state, they will never rise to that, only there will be attempts in the form of legends about great failures, They will ALWAYS be in the role of policemen-punishers and overseers like Yushchenko's daddy among the Nazis in Auschwitz, and Yushchenko himself among the Amers.But from this weakness, which the Nazis of the Galician flood are quite aware of even on a subconscious level. They are even more dangerous for the population of Ukraine if they feel the permissiveness, the weakness of power and the lack of a leash, "a universal master" - they will cut out all those who disagree with the precepts of the Hauptsturmbanfu rera SS Shlyukhevych, who, under the first owners, fully voiced that for the sake of creating a new nation, you can safely cut half of it, they clearly, like a stray flock of dogs, feel when you can vomit weak, especially single ones in turn.
            1. Anper
              Anper 31 January 2014 12: 53
              +1
              Quote: avt
              they clearly, like a stray pack of dogs, feel when they can tear weakly, especially loners in turn.

              From western Ukraine.
              To the point! +++
              For those particularly interested
              http://www.ukrstor.com/oun-upa/maslovskij-vse.html
              http://archives.ru/library/ukrainian-nationalist-organization-second-world-war-v
              olume-1 / index.html # / i /
          2. avt
            avt 30 January 2014 19: 19
            +3
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Too emotionally answered

            And here is the Great Crusade marked by a minus. laughing Correct.
        2. Motors1991
          Motors1991 30 January 2014 18: 02
          +19
          I’ll add it again to your post, yesterday the court extended the detention for two months to I. Markov. This person, one of two people's deputies who openly opposed the president’s European integration policy. Yanukovych punished him revealingly. The Party of Regions removed him immunity, the most humane Ukrainian Court in the world promptly deprived a deputy mandate, and then ended up in jail under the article Hooliganism. To do this, they raised a protocol of six years ago according to which, a hooligan, Markov Igor Olegovich is accused of breaking up a peaceful demonstration of Galicians, who “Peacefully” protested against the installation of the monument to Catherine the Great in Odessa in 2007. I’ll add a three-year statute of limitations on this article. And now the question is: Why doesn’t anyone protect the Russian person who suffered for the Russian cause? Why does the whole West stand up for Tymoshenko, and for I. Markov, no one, neither Putin, nor Medvedev, nor Zhirinovsky, but all the snot for this nits - Yanukovych, who knows how to steal and take away nothing?
        3. Egoza
          Egoza 30 January 2014 18: 58
          +7
          Quote: avt
          But the same Yanukovych practically burned out everything pro-Russian by creating the “Party of Regions”.

          There are decent people and politicians in PR! Take a look!
          Zaporizhzhya governor Alexander Peklushenko refused to kneel, as well as leave his post, noting that only such a “traitor and” is capable of such a difficult time.
          Kharkiv regional deputies in the regional council collected 150 thousand hryvnias for treatment and new uniforms for fighters of the Berkut special forces who protect administrative buildings in Kiev. Viktor Xakova, the deputy from the Party of Regions, told 30 about this at a session of the Kharkov regional council in January, today the governor of Kharkiv Dobkin and the regional deputies came to the session in T-shirts with the inscription "Golden Eagle" and the symbols of this police unit. Lugansk, Odessa ....
          You know, in extreme situations, the masks are sliding, and you can see the MOST MAN. And we will remember the worthy! We will vote for them. Especially in light of the fact that Yanukovych said that he could go to the dissolution of BP.
          1. avt
            avt 30 January 2014 19: 39
            +10
            Quote: Egoza
            There are decent people and politicians in PR! Take a look!

            And who says that they are not? When I say that Yanukovych burned everything pro-Russian near him by creating a Party of Regions. I mean the fact that he liquidated the organized structure, creating instead of a real party a porridge consisting of hangers-on to outright Natsik, well, you don't know that, and people are really stuck in this swamp. This is practically a political murder - he put his stigma on all of them. As on EdRo we have a party of crooks and thieves, try to wash it off, even if you are not close to the money. So he tried to shake up the GDP through the Front, but the result is very dubious, just as the United Russia party drowns. Remember with what fury Vova Ulyanov, known as Lenin, defended his principle of recruiting the party only with ideological revolutionaries, in every possible way rejecting the Mensheviks' attempts to include "fellow travelers." After all, he turned out to be 100% right! Confirmation of this is the dashing seizure and retention of power by the party he created on the basis of serving the idea. And how did the CPSU collapse, pulling the USSR along with it? When ideological control over membership in the party was weakened, if simply - the party card became just a membership card to a prestigious club for quite itself material benefits in a closed distributor and became for middle and top managers an obstacle to replacing a party membership card with just money. as already said, the reaction to the accomplished event.No action plan , unlike the Bolsheviks, who had a maximum program and a minimum program within which they quickly and clearly rebuilt in accordance with the circumstances and won well in completely hopeless situations.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 30 January 2014 19: 54
              +3
              Quote: avt
              So the facts you cited are not a planned work of a clearly structured, unified organization - a party, but just, as I said, a reaction to an event that happened

              You are absolutely right! But I would like to point out that there are normal forces, and they will be able to "reformat" the party a little later. In addition, it is not known what Yanukovych said at a meeting of the faction in the VR. there are interesting nuances ... Yanukovych has not yet signed the Amnesty Law, he has 15 days for that. At the same time, Chechetov said: “If the opposition refuses to fulfill its part of the compromise for the adoption of the amnesty law, then the law will“ die ”and there will be no amnesty.” This was stated by the deputy head of the PR faction in parliament Mikhail Chechetov. “Blame for the fact that hundreds of people can be held accountable for violating the law, it will be completely on the conscience of Klitschko, Yatsenyuk and Tyagnibok, "- said Mikhail Chechetov. The compromise is, according to the deputy head of the faction, that those arrested will be released only after the protesters release the Regional State Administration." The protesters liberate the captured buildings - we release the participants in the confrontations from responsibility. This is a compromise, "the People's Deputy believes. The opposition called this idea of ​​compromise hostage-taking."
              Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137269.html
              Those. now the question is "Who is dressing whom"? Well, and one more nuance - the Law does not have a clear definition of what a "peaceful demonstration" is. Those. Collisions with BB and Berkut may well NOT fall under this law.
              For reference: "In Ukraine, during the mass actions, 234 people were detained, 140 of them were arrested," the press service of the General Prosecutor's Office reports.
              According to the investigation, "four people were killed, including employees of the internal affairs bodies, more than 500 people were injured, of which 253 were law enforcement officers," the report said.
              http://www.versii.com/news/296191/
              1. avt
                avt 30 January 2014 20: 10
                +4
                Quote: Egoza
                In addition, it is not known what Yanukovych said at a meeting of the faction in the VR. there are interesting nuances ... Yanukovych has not yet signed the Amnesty Law, he has 15 days for that. At the same time, Chechetov said: "If the opposition refuses to fulfill its part of the compromise for the adoption of the amnesty law, then the law will" die "and there will be no amnesty.

                That's all, forgive me for being rude, mud..e sobs of political impotent people in power. What kind of "amnesty" in the absence of even a hint of power on the part of those who are legally endowed with it ??? Julia Grikyants is not at liberty, so she would have shown them all due to her bitchy character. And Yanyk, who suddenly fell ill with intestinal flu after the Rada, and the nickname would be extinguished.
                Quote: Egoza
                But I would like to note that there are normal forces,

                request Of course there are, if Yanukovych did not saddle them - a shish would become president.
                Quote: Egoza
                and they will be able to "reformat" the party a little later.

                Do you think you really have time !? And even if there is, do you think they will painlessly allow "reformatting", and even taking the concept of "Russian World" as a basis? God forbid, but there are more questions than answers. The road will be mastered by the walking one. Will they go? Will there be REAL support from the Russian leadership, given the rather difficult situation at the helm of the government and a great desire to feed on it, and not use it for its intended purpose?
      8. Genur
        Genur 30 January 2014 17: 45
        +4
        This cowardly chameleon is unlikely to have time to decide. If the prime minister passed almost without a fight, then he himself can not only end his career, but also life ingloriously.
      9. I do not care
        I do not care 30 January 2014 18: 39
        +1
        Do you think it's time?
      10. Orik
        Orik 30 January 2014 21: 22
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's why it’s time for Yanukovych to decide who he is with.

        Yanek has long been determined, he is with himself and for himself.
      11. _Forgiven_
        _Forgiven_ 31 January 2014 11: 50
        +3
        But he had already decided for a long time: he quietly finished off what was left untouched and, like Azarov, would resign with a calm soul and conscience. And the fact that at an important and crucial moment he tied the hands of the security forces is true, little things ... This maidan for Lukashenko and Putin would have ended on December 1 in the evening, when BERKUT dispersed the gang of damages. You just had to finish them off and put them in a monkey
    2. Civil
      Civil 30 January 2014 16: 25
      +11
      Every day, good news from Ukraine))) The name day of the soul is direct, it is time for the comrades to return the lands lost and covered with blood!
      Endure the Crimea, a little bit left!
    3. Civil
      Civil 30 January 2014 16: 34
      +5
      But there is no Red Army, no one in Ukraine will help stop the Bandera gang!
      1. housekeeper
        housekeeper 30 January 2014 21: 45
        +5
        There is no Red Army, but there are people whose grandfathers and great-grandfathers served in that very "invincible and legendary". The East and South of Ukraine drives this evil spirits as far as they can. soldier
    4. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt 30 January 2014 16: 48
      +11
      I agree! Tear to pieces of freaks! But the gray cardinals of all this piderastia, even in BP, have rats, church mice are Kravchuk Kuchma and Yushchenko !!! Europe is beneficial for them! and this whole mess! Nits, you look at their faces, they need to become vassals, although they have long been identified !!! And the geeks who are on the Maidan and not only cut on belts and their whole kind of bitch !!!!! am
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 30 January 2014 17: 14
        +5
        Unfortunately, the Rusakov will be left to their own devices. People themselves will not create armed formations for defense - there is no such leader there, and if they start doing it on their own, they will immediately announce Russian chauvinism and throw them under tanks. And no one intervenes. There is hope that in the Crimea our naval forces will try to stop the massacre, but they will shout from the Kremlin ...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 30 January 2014 19: 02
          +6
          Quote: cumastra1
          People themselves will not create armed formations for protection -

          Well, you can also "unarmed" way.
          In Kharkov, representatives of the organization "Labor Kharkov" held a picket near the building of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration. They took the initiative to convene an extraordinary session of the regional council and decide to reduce the funds that the Kharkiv region transfers to the state budget of Ukraine in proportion to the number of regions that left the subordination of the central government, the polemic correspondent reports. Protesters say they do not want to feed extremists who are trying to make a coup in the country. About 15 people took part in the action. They held posters: "Europe and the United States support the Nazis and extremists," "Maidowns in Kiev - the fifth column of the West", "We are waiting for you, Iron Felix." The protesters also took the initiative to appeal to the regions of the South and East of Ukraine with a similar proposal - not to transfer money that will go to the "rebellious" regions. The appeal will be passed to the regional council. The leaders of the organizations “Labor Kharkov Region”, “Union of Soviet Officers”, “Kievan Rus” and others signed under it. “In Ukraine there are areas that give more to the state budget than they receive, becoming donors. And others, mainly regions of the West of Ukraine, are not able to earn even half of the funds to pay to teachers, doctors, civil servants, and other categories of workers. Many factory workers do not receive wages on time, while in the Western regions they build monuments to the enemies of the people of Ukraine, fascist lackeys, ”said Pavel Tishchenko, head of the Labor Kharkiv region, at a picket.
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137299.html
          Down and Out trouble started! And there, and other areas will pick up! And there the regional councils will declare "the people are demanding", and we'll see who will win!
          1. alone
            alone 30 January 2014 21: 42
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            In Kharkov, representatives of the organization "Labor Kharkov" held a picket near the building of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration. They took the initiative to convene an extraordinary session of the regional council and decide to reduce the funds that the Kharkiv region transfers to the state budget of Ukraine in proportion to the number of regions that left the subordination of the central government, the polemic correspondent reports. Protesters say they do not want to feed extremists who are trying to make a coup in the country. About 15 people took part in the action.



            15 people. For 1,5 million Kharkov, a very big figure)) I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
          2. _Forgiven_
            _Forgiven_ 31 January 2014 13: 16
            0
            I agree with you entirely. As a railwayman, I understand perfectly that Don. Railway, South and Dnieper Dnieper feeds these scum, while they throw stones and Molotov cocktails at cops, because only this industry has remained state. That is a cash cow
      2. cfuf
        cfuf 30 January 2014 22: 52
        -1
        you are a flood
    5. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 30 January 2014 18: 04
      -2
      Quote: AVV
      Yanuk is a hunchback in 90 g

      This is precisely the basis for the separation of one people (fictitiously called Ukrainian and Russian). American propaganda in action. They are not so smart, our powerful traitors. Without treason at the top, the Americans would have done nothing. The article of Mr., as it gradually instills pissimiz and hopelessness from the first paragraph and, allegedly "for objectivity", a little bit of hopeless optimism at the end.
  2. Deniska999
    Deniska999 30 January 2014 15: 45
    +18
    They beat Bandera, and again they grind their teeth. In place of Yanukovych, martial law must be imposed and all activists and leaders of the rebels arrested.
    1. escobar
      escobar 30 January 2014 15: 54
      -5
      Quote: Deniska999
      They beat Bandera, and again they grind their teeth. In place of Yanukovych, martial law must be imposed and all activists and leaders of the rebels arrested.


      This is impossible, not enough strength, the army will not go against the people and many hundreds of thousands will come out. So order a million in jail? Believe me, if such a step decided something - Yanyk would have introduced an emergency a long time ago.
      Yanyk needs to leave, there is 11 months left until the end of his term, let him give his consent to early elections in the spring, well, he will live half a year less, enough time to hide everything stolen.
      1. Pharao7766
        Pharao7766 30 January 2014 16: 05
        +11
        But this is exactly what they are achieving.
        Early elections are the next stage of the Sharpe coup.

        Early elections can only be in one case - after a hard suppression of the coup.
        In today's conditions, the West and the Nazis will put their man 100%.
      2. kind
        kind 30 January 2014 17: 29
        0
        Yanyk needs to leave, there are 11 months left until the end of his term, let him give consent to the early elections in the spring

        And who will replace him? Are there any worthy candidates? So far, apart from Azarov, there are no visible ones.
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 17: 39
          +6
          And who will replace him? Are there any worthy candidates? So far, apart from Azarov, there are no visible ones.
          It’s not necessary to sculpt a savior from Azarov. Yanek with his lousiness greatly lowered the PR in the eyes of the voter.
      3. slvevg
        slvevg 30 January 2014 18: 34
        -1
        Yanyk needs to leave, there is 11 months left until the end of his term, let him give his consent to early elections in the spring, well, he will live half a year less, enough time to hide everything stolen.

        Your comment is a single voice that is not heard on this site. What kind of Russians and their world are we talking about. For all the standing of the Maidan, neither from the media, nor from ordinary people, I have not heard any criticism towards Russia and its citizens !!! It’s not really not clear that the people are living with such a government and such a government, where does anyone’s world, etc. etc. It's no secret that the Russians live a little better, with a lot more resources and ghoul oligarchs watching them, but you, brothers, should live no worse than in the UAE, but thanks to a system like the Ukrainian, you have what you have. I am Russian, but the fact that many on this site are saturated with propaganda media worries me. The site can be said analytical, think whether the Russians need to show the truth? To get the same from yourself? Only with admixtures of a Caucasian accent, then there will be no prayers for the glory of Orthodoxy and the nonuse of force to be read in the swamp ... You have many more enemies.
        But talking about Ukraine and its shamelessly robbing government, led by a felon. Ukraine has the right to a better life. For 22 years, life is like on a powder keg, which is on two chairs. None of the former presidents even thought of joining either side, all this is a carrot for the electorate. IM and so good. hi
        1. Kars
          Kars 30 January 2014 18: 38
          +6
          Quote: slvevg
          I have not heard any criticism from ordinary people towards Russia and its citizens !!
          They listened poorly. One joke about Russian special forces who had arrived so that the clothes would be enough for him in Berkut. And the constant whining that Russia sold Ukraine.

          Quote: slvevg
          her shamelessly robbing government led by a felon.
          I remember how she was robbed during the time of the Tymoshenko, and by the way, Yanukovych’s convictions became known before or after being elected president. And by the way, I’m more horrified by economic education than articles on a youngster. It’s clear who can steal more effectively, and then to sell Ukraine with a crucible to Gazprom for a discount on the pre-election year.
          1. slvevg
            slvevg 31 January 2014 00: 32
            +2
            and then with a crucible to preponderate sell Ukraine to Gazprom for a discount on the pre-election year.

            Everything is clear about Yulia, she is in her rightful place, but I would like to see a couple of the other from the current government, plus Yushchenko as a bonus ... We got everything in order. And Yanek had to put all the money in different baskets, and adhere to the election course, but he is just a doll, and he will not be seen as a Politician.
            1. Kars
              Kars 31 January 2014 03: 31
              +2
              Quote: slvevg
              but I would like to see a couple of the other from the current government, plus Yushchenko as a bonus.

              What else would you like?
              Quote: slvevg
              And Janek had to put all the money in different baskets

              it’s fun to give advice to the president, he don’t worry with a piece of bread, he’ll stay in any case, even if they plant him. And even if they shoot him, he made money for his grandchildren.
              Quote: slvevg
              We got everything in order

              Well, I don’t know. I personally am horrified of what can come to power even if it is tigibko or Penzenyk with their economic entities, they will undress the people in general to zero.

              the funniest thing is that Yanyk is bothering improving his life as soon as he can, but all the positive aspects are hiding against the background of euphoria after the victory of the opposition when they beat .. CHILDREN .. 30 numbers. even the children feel sick at 4 at night, and do not come across a golden eagle.

              it’s clear, of course, that the year is pre-election, but so the three-year-olds coming to power will be able to ruin the country for five years by nodding at ..poprerednikov .. and try to prove to them that they will sign any piece of paper that the EU will palm off on them (in vain do they carry cookies, do you really think what human rights?) and when we get to the Maidan they will disperse us with democratic rubber clubs and bullets according to human rights.
        2. escobar
          escobar 30 January 2014 19: 23
          -3
          Quote: slvevg
          Your comment is a single voice that is not heard on this site.

          They EVERYTHING just look only ORT, so they got it.
          1. IGS
            IGS 31 January 2014 03: 50
            +4
            Hello everybody. hi I did not go to the site for a long time.
            They EVERYTHING just look only ORT, so they got it.
            Specifically, what in the dark? No blah blah.
            the army will not go against the people and will leave many hundreds of thousands
            Sure? What still have not come out? Yes, at least during the funeral? And do not about what came out. There are a lot of webcams on the Maidan and in the okrug, the same TV spline broadcasts almost around the clock, or say it is Mosk .. my TV laughing?
            Quote: slvevg
            I have not heard any criticism from ordinary people towards Russia and its citizens !!
            belay From the usual ones ... but about the maydauns ... How about the live broadcast on the same splin TV, even during the "peaceful" Maidan, and the screams of the crowd for at least a day: "who does not jump, he is ... eh ". What about hanging slogans? give links to webcams?
            Westerners what are you doing in Kiev? If you want to separate, raise the question of autonomy, and then of separation. Or do you need all of Ukraine? Will not work. Yes, and we do not need a part. If there is a question about the collapse of Ukraine as a state and territory, we will take everything, you will quickly become internationalists with us, where is the thread at the construction sites of the warm and hospitable Chechnya. Khrushchev did not let you finish, now we are re-educating. And now the main integrity and independence of Ukraine as a state is the most important issue. It is a pity that the ohrenarchs rule there, who can use their grandmothers only with the permission of the West, and this is the problem. This Nazi rot must be crushed in the bud. Not for that our grandfathers fought. Here are the data only about the Poltava region:
            76 thousand people left the cities and villages of the Poltava region to the front. 200 young Russians born on Poltava land, having accomplished a feat in the name of the Fatherland, were awarded the title of Heroes of the Soviet Union. To five natives of the region this honorary title was awarded twice. And if you take into account those who lived, studied or worked in the Poltava region, then Heroes - 234, but if we talk about the Poltava province, it was larger than the current region, then the Poltava land gave 296 Heroes of the Soviet Union. And it occupies the first place in the former Union, today's CIS, not only in the number of Heroes in terms of the number of inhabitants, but also several times greater than even the former Union republics in Courage and Courage. Of the 200 Heroes, 34 to Poltava soldiers, the title of Hero of the Soviet Union was posthumously assigned. Little Russians bravely defended Moscow and Leningrad, smashed the enemy near Stalingrad and the Kursk Bulge, crossed the Dnieper, Vistula, Oder, Danube. Many Poltava residents became famous, liberating Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia from the Nazis. 9 Poltava warriors became cavaliers of the Golden Star before the Great Patriotic War. 31 Poltava warriors became Heroes in 1943. 78 title of Hero awarded in 1944. In 1945, the title of Hero was awarded to 95 Poltava residents. 78 heroes of the infantry are natives of the Poltava region, 37 tankmen, 42 heroes of the artillery are natives of the Little Russian Territory. 39 warriors became Knights of the Golden Star for participating in the crossing of the Dnieper. 75 Poltava residents became holders of the Golden Star under the age of 25 years. Of the 234 Heroes of the Soviet Union, at the time of the assignment, 160 were Communists who replaced the Bolsheviks. Of the 200 Heroes born in the region, 190 are from peasants.
            1. Anper
              Anper 31 January 2014 13: 10
              +1
              Please note that in the very same Galicia, 1 people perished in the three years of occupation, and this with a special loyal status. given by Hitler to the "District of Galicia". And the survivors did not teach their descendants anything.
      4. does it
        does it 30 January 2014 19: 16
        +1
        Quote: escobar
        This is impossible, not enough strength, the army will not go against the people and many hundreds of thousands will come out.

        Duc right! if brought to this, they will leave.
      5. Anper
        Anper 31 January 2014 13: 23
        0
        Quote: escobar
        many hundreds of thousands will come out.

        From western Ukraine.
        If they only see that Berkut took two steps in their direction, then these hundreds of thousands of my fellow countrymen will be so torn that wet pants and what’s in their pants will not interfere. They historically have different tactics - from behind the bush, in the back, preferably in bulk, preferably with imagination. Extremely to them, any gregarious impunity - decomposes at the moment of absolutely normal people. One by one - they will surrender everyone and everything. Already take a word. Not heroes.
    2. leks
      leks 30 January 2014 16: 02
      +5
      Hi Deniska999
      Yanukovych will not do anything from the list that you want, he already lost, the opposition made it, he is already stupidly following her lead, he just wants to keep his place in the post until the last, if Maidan goes to aggravation again, he’ll be squeezed so that he would agree to an early presidential election, and I doubt very much that this gentleman would benefit them, since the people understood what he was like.
      The state of emergency in the country had to be declared immediately after the pogroms began, and a corresponding order was given to the golden eagle, and not to sit and think what Europe and the United States would say about this.
      Yes, and this Santa Barbara has been tired already, which has been going on for the last ten years, let them want it and turn it off is their internal problem, at such a rate they will finish their economy that will plunge the country into chaos, respectively, the rich will fall off and the country will fall apart according to the Yugoslav scenario !!!!
      1. Roman A
        Roman A 30 January 2014 16: 56
        +2
        leks, you are probably right, but there is one problem (not one) as soon as you disperse the Maidan immediately The Dictator (where the money is kept ALL UKRAINE please do not confuse with the people of Ukraine) if the Dictator is only one road Russia (Lukashenko became a dictator after dispersing a type of peaceful rally now we are in TS)
        1. leks
          leks 30 January 2014 18: 28
          +6
          Roman A
          Most likely, Yanukovych refused the force scenario because of his finances, since they are not stored in the national bank of the country but in Europe, which means that after the force scenario he becomes Persona non grata, and after the sanctions towards the country's leadership all the loot will be blocked, also do not forget about the local oligarchs Yanuk very much depends on them.
          I think after the election he will take the place of Julia if he does not fall on time.
          You remembered "Old Man", that's what I want to say, the special forces then worked perfectly well, they worked from the beginning on the press and cameras and then calmly gave snot to "peaceful demonstrators" and not some practical speculation on TV, though our TV from the beginning in this perspective everything was exposed as if they were shooting right in the square, but now they don't blather too much, well done guys.
          1. Roman A
            Roman A 30 January 2014 18: 49
            +3
            leks again I say you’re right, but YANIKA was put to the wall or that he wouldn’t do it the way of the country, but this ,,,,,, rss (I don’t for the boys from Berkut (although not with the police) I CAN’T BEAT cops (Soviet the law is for everyone)) anyway, it was cast out by betraying the whole east to the golden eagle of Russia the euro and to people how to live I spent a week exploring the sites of Lviv, Crimea, Khorkov in Ukraine, this was just the beginning of the abscess as the crematorium sang Get ready now the sun will spraySorry a little emotionally
      2. Slavapom
        Slavapom 30 January 2014 17: 31
        +8
        I am afraid that the so-called opposition will not be able to do anything there, since they no longer control the Maidan, and therefore the negotiations are being conducted neither shaky nor shaky. Maidan is now run by nationalists, who, having received power, will "rip off the head" of both Yanukovych and the so-called opposition. In general, I get the impression that any opposition, in Russia and Ukraine, is "offended" in the sense of being excommunicated from the state trough.
        1. leks
          leks 30 January 2014 18: 37
          +1
          Slavapom
          What is interesting to me with the coming to power of a man with nat. glances at the laws that the nationalists got in their throats immediately after they came to power and no one even remembers that they themselves were shouting that these laws are totalitarian, and in the case of a meeting not satisfied with the Maidan, they will disperse it very hard and Europe will support .
    3. vezunchik
      vezunchik 30 January 2014 16: 14
      +12
      Because after the war the death penalty was abolished and Bendera and forest brothers from the Baltic states began to be given 15-20 years. So consider 1955 + 20 = 1975. The bandits began to go out and work with young people ... unlike the Komsomol. whose leaders made a career and learned to steal from senior comrades. Andropov tried to put things in order, but he was not allowed to do this ... And now we got what we have
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  3. sinukvl
    sinukvl 30 January 2014 15: 47
    +20
    Ukrainian guy married a Russian girl. Before the wedding night, his father gives him instructions: - First, take her in her arms and bring her to the bed. Show me how strong Ukraine is. Then take off your shirt - show how beautiful Ukraine is. And the voice of my grandfather is heard from the next room: - And then start dr ... t - show how independent Ukraine is!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 15: 52
      +18
      Today on the site this joke is already embarrassed. laughing
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 30 January 2014 16: 06
        +2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Today on the site this joke is already embarrassed.

        Well, then ACTUAL!
    2. PROXOR
      PROXOR 30 January 2014 16: 03
      +7
      Beautiful card. But for me, the whole territory is connected. And all this riffraff or shoot or give Geyrope. Let them enjoy the European Union.
    3. Rodover
      Rodover 30 January 2014 16: 14
      +4
      Good map! I like! And, probably, not only to me ...
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 30 January 2014 16: 52
        +8
        And even better!
        1. Roman A
          Roman A 30 January 2014 17: 01
          +12
          Was at the Sevastopol forum those offer
          Crimea declares war on Russia and surrenders tomorrow
          One has a forum signature
          Banderlozhestvo mortal sin
          1. Roman A
            Roman A 30 January 2014 18: 31
            +2
            Quote: Roman A
            Was at the Sevastopol forum those offer
            Crimea declares war on Russia and surrenders tomorrow
            One has a forum signature
            Banderlozhestvo mortal sin



            Although it’s impossible for Sevastopol to spoil military statistics, the Russians don’t give up (are not for sale) even to themselves like that
        2. Bumbik
          Bumbik 30 January 2014 17: 06
          -30%
          And here is another option
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 30 January 2014 17: 33
            0
            Quote: Bumbik
            And here is another option

            So who is trying to divide Ukraine!
            And from what year, if not secret?
          2. Roman A
            Roman A 30 January 2014 17: 40
            +3
            Quote: Bumbik
            And here is another option

            You got sick along the way The map that Belarus should be painted white at the top (province) (itself from Belarus) You probably meant
          3. Sergh
            Sergh 30 January 2014 17: 43
            0
            Quote: Bumbik
            And here is another option

            Beautiful picture, bright. Give a tattoo, where did you buy paints?
          4. dddym
            dddym 31 January 2014 11: 03
            +2
            Without Siberia ??? Even ardent nationalists and separatists will break you in :)))))) In Siberian, so - with the go-ahead :))) Heh - taimyr uhhaaaaahahaaa - compilers :))))
          5. STALGRAD76
            STALGRAD76 31 January 2014 11: 23
            +2
            Bumbik, like there is already an article for such pictures? Let's make it such a card.
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    4. gunter_laux
      gunter_laux 30 January 2014 17: 04
      -1
      The map is more relevant than ever !!!
    5. lestad
      lestad 30 January 2014 17: 20
      -2
      great map good it should be
    6. crbvbyjr
      crbvbyjr 31 January 2014 09: 26
      0
      and Uzhgorod residents asked if they want to banderlog
  4. svp67
    svp67 30 January 2014 15: 48
    +21
    What awaits the Russians
    If someone in Ukraine, I say right away is not a very smart person or people, will try to conduct ethnic cleansing ... then I do not envy him. Ukraine is a VERY multinational state, and if you start with Russians (Jews, Armenians, Greeks ...), then just the rest will rise from a sense of self-preservation, and you should not discount people living in other countries, but who rightly consider Ukraine their homeland, because many of them have a military education and interests of various nature in Ukraine ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 January 2014 15: 57
      +8
      Quote: svp67
      If someone in Ukraine, I say right away is not a very smart person or people, will try to conduct ethnic cleansing ..

      From the west, these idiots will be financed and put up by wise men. The main thing is how to present. There, Mironov from SR, a fool, but the memory is good, he memorizes without a piece of paper.
      1. slvevg
        slvevg 31 January 2014 00: 59
        0
        From the west, these idiots will be financed and put up by wise men. The main thing is how to present. There, Mironov from SR, a fool, but the memory is good, he memorizes without a piece of paper.

        Is it okay that western Ukraine is itself for federalization? And this despite the fact that it is financially poorer than the industrial east. It is proposed to leave the money received from taxes in the regions, and to give to the treasury for the army, police, education, medicine, etc., the responsibility for the local budget should be placed on the executive committees elected by the people locally. And now all the money flows to one center, and is spent virtually uncontrollably. You see, even this prospect does not frighten people, although they understand that it could be worse. Further, it is western Ukraine and the center that initiate different actions such as east and west together to prevent disintegration. It is NOT BANDERLOGS who want to distance themselves from the east, but the east and south are ready for "radical" measures to protect themselves from these "barbarians". Clinic!!!
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 January 2014 17: 13
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      just out of a sense of self-preservation, everyone else will rise

      Actually, this is the ultimate goal of all this ... mandan.
      And ONE will help to inflate all this into a world war and forward: forgive who should)).
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 30 January 2014 15: 49
    +24
    Given the past bloody exploits of Bandera, the massacre of the Russian population is quite real - and I am afraid that the power in Ukraine will not strike a finger to save people from genocide - in Chechnya we have already gone through this and the same thing is brewing in Ukraine.

    In the photo, Bandera guards the Jews they arrested during the pogroms - later they will be shot.
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 30 January 2014 16: 25
      +17
      History must be known and remembered!
  6. My address
    My address 30 January 2014 15: 50
    +15
    Good article. No one has yet said that it can be not just bad, but very bad for the East, the South - Little Russia. Wherever you throw, everywhere wedge. And what, will we look and grit our teeth?
  7. Mviktor
    Mviktor 30 January 2014 15: 55
    +12
    With Viktor Yanukovych, who continues to nominally preserve the presidency, everything is clear. No other feelings except endless disgust this figure can no longer cause

    And as a real coward, as soon as the smell of fried went to the sick-list, diarrhea must have played out whirling back
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 30 January 2014 19: 11
      +2
      Quote: Mviktor
      And like a real coward, as soon as the smell of fried went to the sick-list,

      I don’t know where you got such data from, but he came to BP to pass an amnesty law. But even if so - he is on sick leave, and the guy - died!

      "In Kiev, on Hrushevsky Street, an employee of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine died of cardiac arrest, according to the appeal of the acting Minister of Internal Affairs Vitaly Zakharchenko." Today at five in the morning the captain of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Dunets died. A 30-year-old, previously healthy policeman, had a heart failure. These are the consequences of the daily tension during the confrontation on Grushevsky, where Dmitry served on the protection of public order.

      Yanukovych expressed condolences.

      Batkivshina stated that “The responsibility for all the deaths during the protests in Ukraine lies personally with Zakharchenko, who gave criminal orders to his subordinates, provoking an escalation of violence,” - (regarding the report of the Ministry of Internal Affairs about the death of the captain of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs today.)
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137303.html
  8. garik77
    garik77 30 January 2014 16: 01
    +5
    Until the end of the Olympics, nothing serious should be expected, unless in the worst case, if the banderlogs begin to rob army weapons depots ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 January 2014 16: 24
      +1
      Quote: garik77
      Until the end of the Olympics, nothing serious should be expected
      I think that if that starts, then 07.02.14/XNUMX/XNUMX ... this is from their side, but from our side ... wait and see, I think that we will definitely not stay aside ... there is a "bunch" of "levers" pressure ... "
    2. anarky
      anarky 30 January 2014 16: 46
      0
      Everything has been sold there for a long time, you can not steam it much. And if they start, what will they do to Russia? We seem to have an army, and even more or less combat-ready.
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 January 2014 17: 16
      +3
      Quote: garik77
      Until the end of the Olympics, nothing serious should be expected, except in the worst case

      On the contrary, they will try to guess under the Olympics.
    4. avt
      avt 30 January 2014 19: 52
      +3
      Quote: garik77
      Until the end of the Olympics, nothing serious should be expected, unless in the worst case, if the banderlogs begin to rob army weapons depots ..

      If Vika Nuland from the State Department, that the cookies on the Maidan gave out exactly before the pogroms, will allow - let go of the leash so that it would be enough to reach the length. Just like before the Olympics in Beijing, KonDaLiza Rice, a student of Brzezinski, pulled comrade Saa off the leash ... what a man! Well, who dined with a tie.
  9. 120352
    120352 30 January 2014 16: 03
    +3
    They threaten us, but do we keep silent? Let's wait when they really begin to kill us? After all, the Russian state, as experience shows, never stands up for Russians.
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 January 2014 16: 22
      +4
      Quote: 120352
      After all, the Russian state, as experience shows, never stands up for Russians.
      In most cases, alas, but it is, but 08.08.08 something else happened ...
  10. RUSS
    RUSS 30 January 2014 16: 04
    +6
    The West does not hesitate to openly influence Ukraine in all possible ways, maybe it's time for us to show our teeth too? Only because millions of Russians live in Ukraine, we are obliged to influence the INTERNAL affairs of Ukraine, and in the last light of events, Russia must take decisive actions, possibly ultimatums.
  11. Borough
    Borough 30 January 2014 16: 05
    +1
    not long as everything gets out of control and leads to disastrous consequences ...
    Yanukovych for the collar from the post! And look to get around ...
  12. Stinger
    Stinger 30 January 2014 16: 06
    +2
    By the way, we have the same mumbles with Dagestan. And there begins the great Dagestan.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 January 2014 17: 17
      -1
      Quote: Stinger
      By the way, we have the same mumbles with Dagestan.

      However, they took someone?))
  13. Kasym
    Kasym 30 January 2014 16: 08
    +13
    Maybe not in the subject, but nonetheless. News about Ukraine from Kazakhstan.
    The American oil company, which was about to start shale gas production in Ukraine, closed its representative office. All business travelers were sent home to their countries. Foreign employees were ordered to stock up on food and not leave home. The issue of closing a representative office in Kiev and moving employees to an office in Moscow is being considered. As I understand it, they decided to time with gas. I think the performance on the Ukrainian economy this year will be disastrous. The authorities of Independence cannot even pay for gas at reduced prices. And what will happen tomorrow when all investors run away? It was not necessary for the Russian Federation to help Ukraine with money - let the authorities immediately understand how it is affordable. I'm used to someone throwing it. And they (the authorities) are plundered. So we got the eternal Maidan. hi
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 30 January 2014 16: 39
      +8
      Quote: Kasym
      It was not necessary for the Russian Federation to help Ukraine with money - let the authorities immediately understand how it is affordable.

      Not everything is so foggy, GDP is far from being given to Ukraine by a kandachka. Ukraine, due to its external debts and the impossibility of repaying them in the near future (2 of the year is not a deadline), has lost its subjectivity in the international arena and is rapidly losing its subjectivity in domestic politics. Because Ukraine’s debts are guaranteed by assets, then these assets will be transferred to Ukrainian lenders in the near future. And they are - the USA (the main creditor) and Russia. To a lesser extent, the EU and China. But China goes in conjunction with Russia thanks to the geopolitical joint infrastructure project with Russia in the Crimea.
  14. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 30 January 2014 16: 10
    +6
    Khrushchev's arts are reaching their climax. This time Russia will have to make a decision no longer at the level of Transnistria and Ossetia. If in Ukraine (sorry, but I used to say that since the times of the USSR) there will be a split then the creation of new pocket republics will not add calm. Looking at fascist youth I wonder at their parents - THINK - IS YOUR CHILDREN OR YOU WANT TO SEE THEIR TOMBO?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 30 January 2014 19: 15
      +2
      Quote: zadorin1974
      Looking at fascist youth, I wonder at their parents. - THINK - IS YOUR CHILDREN OR YOU WANT TO SEE THEIR GRAY?

      Parents think their children will panuyut! And it’s wonderful to live in Europe! They don’t think about graves there!
  15. onegin61
    onegin61 30 January 2014 16: 13
    +5
    Unsigned article. The author only opened his eyes, and before that he firmly believed in the Stalinist "friendship of peoples", the Brezhnev community of the "Soviet people", yes, gentlemen, stop deceiving yourself and wishful thinking. anti-Soviet activity and did not happen on a large scale. I remember an internship in 1974 in western Ukraine - Sambir, Uzhgorod, Kremenets. there they immediately warned not to go one by one, to fear provocations and clashes with the local population.
  16. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 30 January 2014 16: 15
    +4
    In general, it is strange that any even the slightest bit of a "great" country has its own zone of interests, I understand Russia has degraded from a superpower of the USSR to present-day Russia and now, in theory, we should not care about the "liberation movement" somewhere in Nicaragua, or the ruling regime in Somalia, now this is the concern of the Americans, but what is happening right in front of us should at least worry a little, I don’t know about everyone else, but I personally don’t need a parody of the Third Reich directly on the border with Russia. We should deal with the problem, we do have mine like some kind of pathetic parody of intelligence, they can't catch terrorists, it's clear here, but maybe they can think of something about the neighboring banana republic, there is little hope, but still.
  17. kim. 230752
    kim. 230752 30 January 2014 16: 18
    0
    It seems to me that you, and I too, underestimate Yanukovych. He is very cunning, always wants to "suck two (or better, more) queens", he has support among the Ukrainian oligarchs (for example, Rinat Akhmetov), ​​he probably has backup options. Plus he's a decent prostitute. In my opinion, Russia is behaving too decently, helping Ukraine with money. Russia will wait 300 years for these loans! But, most likely, thanks to these loans, my mother-in-law and father-in-law in Donetsk will receive their pensions. I visit Donetsk every year. The atmosphere there for Russians is friendly, there have never been any problems. It seems to me that the option of dividing Ukraine into the industrial east (donor) and the protest west (consumer of financial "blood") is quite probable.
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    2. atalef
      atalef 30 January 2014 16: 24
      +1
      Quote: kim.230752
      It seems to me that you, and I too, underestimate Yanukovych. He is very cunning, always wants to "suck

      Do not refuse him anything

      Quote: kim.230752
      Plus he's a decent prostitute.

      Therefore, he loves (what you wrote before)
      Quote: kim.230752
      These loans Russia will wait 300 years

      Did you mean loan repayments
      Quote: kim.230752
      consumer of financial "blood") is quite likely.

      those. they are vampires wassat
      You know if you dreamed of a vampire and he is in the grave

      If it lies in a grave - expect heavy spending.

      Yanukovych in the grave - for someone there will be big expenses wassat
    3. svp67
      svp67 30 January 2014 16: 31
      +1
      Quote: kim.230752
      It seems to me that you, and I, too, underestimate Yanukovych

      To be honest, he still surprised me and was able to "rise" a little in my eyes, but every minute he gets more and more into the situation from which there will be only two ways out and all are far from the best ... He is inactive , in contrast to his opponents, but in this situation, "Procrastination is like death" (VI Lenin), with which I cannot but agree with the "classic". But who I have more and more respect, so this is ELENA LUKASH. She can definitely become the person who can do something ...
      1. Civil
        Civil 30 January 2014 16: 45
        -1
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: kim.230752
        It seems to me that you, and I, too, underestimate Yanukovych

        To be honest, he still surprised me and was able to "rise" a little in my eyes, but every minute he gets more and more into the situation from which there will be only two ways out and all are far from the best ... He is inactive , in contrast to his opponents, but in this situation, "Procrastination is like death" (VI Lenin), with which I cannot but agree with the "classic". But who I have more and more respect, so this is ELENA LUKASH. She can definitely become the person who can do something ...


        Already before the woman rolled down ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 January 2014 16: 49
          +4
          Quote: Civil
          Already before the woman rolled down ...
          Well, if the men are "rags", then why not ... Moreover, there are plenty of such examples in history ... Take at least Princess Olga ... if it weren't for her, Russia and Ukraine would not have existed yet ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 30 January 2014 19: 11
            +3

            And after all acted ... Bravo Elena hi
        2. old man 46
          old man 46 30 January 2014 17: 39
          0
          Enough to chew snot. It is time for the Eastern regions to take power into their own hands and not wait for Uncle Yanukovych to sell all of Ukraine to Western wolves. It is necessary to determine who eastern Ukraine is and establish self-defense in the regions, and if the Minister of Defense of Ukraine does not itch, and shows cowardice towards to his state, in this case he will be removed and replaced with another more decisive commander. As was said above, the delay in death is similar. Enough of a visual lesson in Yugoslavia. And if everyone wants to have laws in Europe and then have to act in a European manner as in the states, in France they take such measures against the rebellious that they don’t dream of Maidan in a dream. I need an iron will and a hand to these scumbags
        3. Neophyte
          Neophyte 30 January 2014 18: 05
          0
          Ukraine is a woman and it is necessary to try Ms. Lukash, otherwise stupid men are in the power.
        4. Neophyte
          Neophyte 30 January 2014 18: 05
          0
          Ukraine is a woman and it is necessary to try Ms. Lukash, otherwise stupid men are in the power.
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 30 January 2014 17: 32
        0
        Quote: svp67
        To be honest, he still surprised me, and was able to "rise" a little in my eyes, but every minute he gets more and more into a situation from which there will be only two ways out and all are far from the best ..

        У Mazepovich Viktor left not 2 exits, but one - through the anus.
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 January 2014 19: 03
          +1
          Quote: valokordin
          Mazepovich Victor did not have 2 exits, but one - through the anus.
          But it’s possible in the front ... So, two.
    4. aleks 62
      aleks 62 30 January 2014 18: 24
      +13
      Mayor of Donetsk Alexander Lukyanchenko. “I will read out an extract from the state budget so that we know who is paying whom. The regional budget of the Ternopil region earns UAH 243 million 984,6 thousand, and subsidies from the state budget are provided - UAH 630 million 063 thousand. What is there to comment on? Ivano-Frankivsk region earns 341 million 938 thousand UAH, and 776 million 532 thousand UAH. - equalization subsidy from the state budget. Lviv region - 878 million 243 thousand UAH. earns, and 1 billion 358 million 253 thousand UAH. receives from the state budget. These subsidies include payments for reduced fares, benefits for children, and so on. Donetsk region earns UAH 4 billion 678 million 850 thousand, and state payments amount to UAH 1 billion 235 million ", - stressed Lukyanchenko. Donetsk and the district alone, giving three quarters of their earnings, feeds three black and red regions Two more black and red plus a dozen orange draws on themselves Kharkiv, Odessa, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk, and in return, black and red and orange teach us how to live, whom to honor and what language to speak.
      1. slvevg
        slvevg 31 January 2014 01: 13
        0
        Is it okay that western Ukraine is itself for federalization? And this despite the fact that it is financially poorer than the industrial east. It is proposed to leave the money received from taxes in the regions, and to give to the treasury for the army, police, education, medicine, etc., the responsibility for the local budget should be placed on the executive committees elected by the people locally. And now all the money flows to one center, and is spent virtually uncontrollably. You see, even this prospect does not frighten people, although they understand that it could be worse. Further, it is western Ukraine and the center that initiate different actions such as east and west together to prevent disintegration. It is NOT BANDERLOGS who want to distance themselves from the east, but the east and south are ready for "radical" measures to protect themselves from these "barbarians". Clinic!!!
  18. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 30 January 2014 16: 25
    +1
    Quote: escobar
    This is impossible, not enough strength, the army will not go against the people and many hundreds of thousands will come out.

    As soon as you begin to clean up the Maidan, the number of these Maidan people will sharply decrease, but can they be called normal people? As soon as they understand the seriousness of the authorities’s intentions, many will scatter because there most of them are not ideological, but bought and just hooligans. And do not forget that in addition to these banderlogs, there are normal people who want to protect their country, and possibly their family, because if these come to power, elementary pogroms can begin under the pretext of a different nationality and faith.
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 January 2014 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Peter
      As soon as you begin to clean up the Maidan, the number of these Maidan people will sharply decrease, but can they be called normal people?

      For this, it is necessary that the Kiyans first of all oppose the "maydanutyh", otherwise everything could become even worse ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 30 January 2014 19: 41
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        For this it is necessary that the Kiyans first of all oppose the "maydanutyh"

        Well ... At night, in Kiev, 17 cars were burned repeat True, not all of them were with rooms with memory, but maybe the owners knew well ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 January 2014 20: 28
          0
          Quote: Egoza
          Well ... at night, 17 cars were burned in Kiev at night. True, not all of them were with license plates, but maybe they knew where the owners were from ...
          "ZU" whose numbers are? Sorry, but I didn't find something in net ...
  19. Hamul
    Hamul 30 January 2014 16: 32
    0
    Can Russia just take and send troops? Return the eastern part, the coast, and the rest to the gaypoles to be torn to pieces, and everyone will be happy - everyone will have business;)
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 January 2014 16: 37
      +5
      Quote: Hamul
      Can Russia just take and send troops? They will regain the eastern part, the coast, and the rest to the gaypoles at the mercy, and everyone will be happy - everyone will have business
      Something like that is just expected of us, and this should not be done in any case, we will not resist the whole of Europe and the United States, and most importantly, the inhabitants of Ukraine will perceive it negatively. Only when it "flashes", when the INDEPENDENT South-East Ukrainian Republic and Crimea ask for help, then it will be possible ...
      1. Hamul
        Hamul 30 January 2014 16: 45
        +3
        Yes, I know this, and I understand all the consequences.
  20. Stiletto
    Stiletto 30 January 2014 16: 39
    +15
    Guys, you can, of course, give me some cons, but I think the Ukrainian Party of Regions is a copy of our United Russia. These are not even parties in their essence, but groups of cheerleaders, formally supporting one politician, but in reality - clustered according to the principle "because it is so profitable today." There was "Our Home - Gazprom", then "Fatherland" appeared, then - "Fatherland - All Russia", and now - "United Russia" in the process of the next rebranding and sluggish transformation into the ONF.
    Unlike the Soviet CPSU, which really represented a powerful and cohesive force in the form of ideological communists, known, for example, from the movie "Communist", the current opportunists, mimicking "where the wind blows", will surrender their leader easily and without hesitation on the onslaught of a handful of stubborn gopnikov. And this is frustrating, since the chances of resolving a potential conflict, akin to the Ukrainian one, by political methods in this situation are sharply reduced.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 30 January 2014 17: 39
      +1
      Guys, you can, of course, give me some cons, but I think the Ukrainian Party of Regions is a copy of our United Russia. These are not even parties in their essence, but groups of cheerleaders, formally supporting one politician, but in reality - clustered according to the principle "because it is so profitable today." There was "Our Home - Gazprom", then there was "Fatherland", then - "Fatherland - All Russia", and now - "United Russia" in the process of another rebranding and sluggish transformation into the ONF. [/ quote]
      You are absolutely right, this United Ukraine has no ideological core, it seems to me that the fears are exaggerated. If Mazepovich has diarrhea, then really there is no doctor who would pour him vodka with salt
    2. housekeeper
      housekeeper 30 January 2014 22: 12
      +1
      Unlike the Soviet CPSU, which really represented a powerful and cohesive force in the form of ideological communists, known, for example, from the movie "Communist", the current opportunists, mimicking "where the wind blows", will surrender their leader easily and without hesitation on the onslaught of a handful of stubborn gopnikov.

      And here you are wrong. All this "flock of comrades" consisting of all the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada "ideological fighters for banknotes"
    3. Orik
      Orik 30 January 2014 22: 51
      -2
      The topic itself is disclosed here http://www.21122012.com.ua/teoriya-zagovora/675-logotip-edinaya-rossiya-soderzhi
      tv-sebe-simvol-antixrista-bafomet.html
  21. tank64rus
    tank64rus 30 January 2014 16: 48
    +3
    Comrades in Ukraine, the West began an undeclared war against Russia and the entire Russian World!
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 January 2014 17: 40
      0
      Quote: tank64rus
      against Russia and the entire Russian World!

      And also against the whole world)). Yes, and not the West, but ONE)).
  22. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 30 January 2014 16: 49
    0
    So I think so too. The East will gladly depart to Russia; Crimea has long been ready to be Russian land. But Westerners without Donbass are poverty. They don’t produce anything. Only live on subsidies. Therefore, thugs from the Maidan will not go for it. And the geyrope with minke whales will be noisy here. Well, in general, this invasion of a sovereign state will not be good for us. It is clear that they will not be able to resist us with the destroyed Ukrainian army. But the war between Ukraine and Russia is nonsense. This is what the EU and the states are seeking. They will immediately send NATO troops into Ukraine, such as to defend democracy. Therefore, we lent Ukraine money of 15 billion to boost the economy + entry into the CU. Now they must decide for themselves. Or live normally or move to the EU so that they would be crushed and raped there
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 30 January 2014 18: 24
      +2
      Quote: REDBLUE
      They will immediately send NATO troops to Ukraine, such as to defend democracy

      Neither Europe nor the ShA can never pull a foot, even a finger, but stick out its tongue all the way and open its mouth, which splashes saliva up to Vlad. They are short-sighted on Russia to speak in full growth. Yes, and they know perfectly well that this is not far Africa, but almost the same Russia, although the former one, can be raked by the most do not spoil, which you can’t bring to your house.
    2. slvevg
      slvevg 31 January 2014 01: 19
      0
      The East will gladly move to Russia

      But Akhmetov, Firtash, Kolomoisky, Poroshenko and companies also think so? Take an interview with them and share your impressions with us. wink
      + entry into the vehicle

      only not under the current president and the constitution. It is necessary to put things in order in the power and minds of people, and then decide not to do this for us.
  23. delfinN
    delfinN 30 January 2014 16: 53
    +3
    Russians in Ukraine do not want to organize themselves, as recent events have shown. In this case, they will turn into "dung on which" Banderlog will grow. I forgot which celebrity this phrase belongs to.
  24. Arh
    Arh 30 January 2014 16: 55
    +2
    In fact, Ukraine is ruined by foreigners - Poles (western Ukraine former Poland) and other fascists hawl this rot, and those who resist this plague respect themselves, their people, their homeland! ! !
  25. morozof63
    morozof63 30 January 2014 16: 59
    +5
    Ukraine is reaping the fruits of "democracy", when in the western regions they openly glorified UNA-UNSO and all their deeds, organized processions of support and praise for the remaining shortcomings, when WWII veterans were blocked in festive columns on May 9, when Bandera's people were equated with WWII, with fighters against fascism, and the regional authorities also took part in this action, the center withdrew. Of course, the current situation will be settled, but Bandera will remain in the black.
    1. taseka
      taseka 30 January 2014 17: 18
      -1
      drinks Well noticed the essence!
    2. taseka
      taseka 30 January 2014 17: 18
      0
      drinks Well noticed the essence!
    3. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 17: 36
      0
      Ukraine is reaping the fruits of "democracy", when in the western regions they openly glorified UNA-UNSO and all their deeds, organized processions of support and praise for the remaining shortcomings, when WWII veterans were blocked in festive columns on May 9, when Bandera were equated with WWII, with fighters against fascism, and the regional authorities also participated in this action, the center withdrew
      The center, represented by Vshivy and K, not only disappeared, but I would not be surprised if it turns out that it was sponsored. Lousy with the help of this "horror story" for the population hoped to get through for a second term. But I miscalculated, everything went much further.
  26. Avas2006
    Avas2006 30 January 2014 17: 02
    +2
    Let all those who sympathize with the Maidan see what freedom is in the understanding of Svoboda.
    http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/smart50/post310481330/
  27. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 30 January 2014 17: 07
    +3
    Well what can I say. The number of idiots, traitors, scum reached a critical mass and .......... exploded. These very and so on, so on, gobbled up, pissed away, sold the Soviet legacy faster than Russia, and they had banal chaos, post-apocalypse. In order to recover, they will have to plow the whole country from dawn to dawn for 20 years and restore agriculture, energy and many other industries. But they will not work, Bandera did not teach this. As a result, the Ukrainian SSR will be sawn into pieces. And if the Russians do not get them out, they will disappear from the map of the world, both geographic and political, forever. And for the Russian lessons, if you get ready, out of fright, suddenly go to the "swamp", think, will you be on the other side of the barricades?
  28. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 30 January 2014 17: 08
    +1
    Yes, the video is creepy. In my opinion, the Maidan people themselves do not understand what they are doing
  29. taseka
    taseka 30 January 2014 17: 17
    0
    Yanukovych - a political prostitute and the leader of the thieving clan! Bandits from the Maidan - bandits who need to shoot! Russia didn’t interfere with Yushchenko’s pink drums and now slurps this noodles with the Natsiks, now doesn’t interfere liberally with the Bandera Maidan and years later, through 5, it has been numbing the borsch !!!
  30. voliador
    voliador 30 January 2014 17: 18
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Yes, he decided a long time ago, but who will give him

    For Yanukovych now the question is - to whom will he give laughing ?
  31. dr.star75
    dr.star75 30 January 2014 17: 22
    -1
    Everything, the sabbath, the circus burned down, the clowns fled, Maidan died.
  32. mike_z
    mike_z 30 January 2014 17: 23
    +4
    In all this bedlam, which is happening in the center of Kiev, on Hrushevsky Street, where tires are being burned and the Berkutovites, some wild craftiness can be traced. Have you collected tires in the center of Kiev? Someone made an attempt to terminate their access on the distant lines? The same is with flammable liquids, they are not dumped from the air! They burn rubber. Smoke swirls and obscures everyone, including "Berkut" and those who are not in the Maidan ... There is not a single engineer who will tell you: "Let's drive powerful fans from a factory or airport Borispol, connect them, send them to smoke and rest a little while those who lit their own smoke breathe. " They also hold us for fools, thinking that we believe in all this struggle with degenerates. There is no real struggle. Note, I do not call to disperse, kill, destroy ... Why is this? It's not necessary! Fans, sandblasting machines with a reserve of sand, so that it would not be slippery - that's all the special equipment! And, of course, cordons around so that the mouse does not slip through even without a tire in its teeth.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 30 January 2014 20: 00
      0
      Quote: mike_z
      Why is this? It's not necessary! Fans, sandblasting machines with a supply of sand, what would not be slippery - that's all special equipment! And, of course, cordons around so that the mouse would not slip even without a tire in the teeth.

      You, of course, are a very intelligent person, but you did not take into account the smallest detail. We don’t have such equipment repeat
  33. Luga
    Luga 30 January 2014 17: 24
    0
    Shoot the Maidan with machine guns and pour napalm. Arrest opposition leaders in negotiations and shoot them quickly in a nearby courtyard. Introduce Russian and Belarusian tanks into the cities of western Ukraine (under a mutual assistance agreement). After this, the government and the president resign, declare early elections with one candidate (preferably with a Russian passport).
    And so, in a communist way, all issues can be quickly and relatively painlessly resolved. Ten thousand Bandera will go to hell, thirty thousand - to the capital of the Kolyma Territory, and everything will end.
    Otherwise, another decade of chaos, hundreds of thousands of people who died of starvation, illness and died in the civil war, millions of poor-unemployed-drug addicts-drunkards, prostitutes over the next ten years.
    Oh, sorry, and the truth is that it is impossible in a communist way. recourse
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      1. Egoza
        Egoza 30 January 2014 20: 03
        +1
        Quote: Stiletto
        let’s omit, a resident of a nearby house, who was tired of day and night screaming a crowd of fascist youths, smoke and tear gas, from such an abandoned and crushed apartment would give several bursts from the PKM that came from nowhere towards the barricades.

        And they will immediately say that this is "titushka"! We now have all who are against the Maidan - "titushki"!
        1. housekeeper
          housekeeper 30 January 2014 22: 20
          0
          But what about the FSB special forces sent personally by Putin? belay
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 30 January 2014 19: 57
      +1
      Quote: Luga
      Shoot the Maidan with machine guns and pour napalm.


      No need for napalm. And you don't need a lot of machine guns either. One will be enough. Here maydanutye talk a lot about provocateurs, "titushki", but they are clearly being driven. If the authorities were really interested in ending this booth, some unknown and officially not engaged comrade by anyone - for example, a resident of a nearby house, who was tired of the day and night screaming crowd of fascist thugs, smoke and tear gas, from such an abandoned and destroyed apartment would be several bursts from nowhere from nowhere that came from his PKM towards the barricades. And it seems to me that even the madmen there would quickly draw appropriate, correct conclusions. For the difference between 30 state silvermen and a bullet to the head is quite obvious.
      Well, the legitimate government of Ukraine after this terrible, egregious incident, after this terrible provocation, could well help to evacuate people from the Maidan in the name of their own safety, so as not to become victims of the unknown "Maidan shooter."
      1. Luga
        Luga 30 January 2014 22: 28
        0
        Well, don’t need a lot of machine guns and napalm. I, in general, do not care how exactly this will be done, the main thing is that not one leaves. Either on a date with Bandera, or in sunny Magadan for eternal settlement. You need to use the moment while they are all gathered together. Only for this we need Bismarck, Thier, in short, an intelligent, energetic and decisive personality. But where can I get one?
        With great pleasure I would have watched the masked types rushing about the Maidan in horror, falling to the ground, surrendering in tears and snot to the "Berkut". I would be happy to see Klitschko's childishly confused and offended face when he is sentenced in the Supreme Court - by shooting. And next to him I can perfectly imagine his two "comrades-in-arms" - one is killed and broken, the other with bulging eyes throws up his hand in a fascist greeting.
        Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness?
  34. Platov
    Platov 30 January 2014 17: 25
    -1
    The connection is not calm in Ukraine, temporarily close the border crossings towards Russia at the entrance. Vehicles will be checked for the transport of weapons with overload, the Maidan will calm down and clean up within a week.
  35. Black
    Black 30 January 2014 17: 26
    +2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    That's why it’s time for Yanukovych to decide who he is with


    I decided. On sick leave. Campaign bear disease Gopnik exacerbated. Stsuka.
  36. rocketman
    rocketman 30 January 2014 17: 36
    -2
    Oddly enough, the main Ukrainian patriots who stand for the integrity of Ukraine are Ukrainian oligarchs - because of the money invested throughout the country. They do not care what color the rag hangs on the heels, if only the grandmother were intact. as always, the corrupt bourgeoisie ... am
    so the topic article ...
  37. VADEL
    VADEL 30 January 2014 17: 36
    +5
    It is very difficult to find those responsible for the events in Ukraine.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 January 2014 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: VADEL
      It is very difficult to find those responsible for the events in Ukraine.

      Yes, they got together, comrades, They brought Ukraine to the fascist putsch .. (to the delight of some comrades ..) Ukraine is one of the few .. which suffered the most (in human and material losses) from the Nazis (and in general from the European "democratic" countries during the second world (and in the first) .. Again, repeat?
  38. aleks2102
    aleks2102 30 January 2014 17: 47
    +1
    Echo of Moscow is high time to close together with its publisher
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 January 2014 18: 57
      0
      Quote: aleks2102
      Echo of Moscow is high time to close together with its publisher

      Yes, let them chat in the morning, I always listen to them ... (very invigorates) .. bully
  39. valokordin
    valokordin 30 January 2014 17: 47
    0
    Here they are in the photograph of Russophobia, one of them is even an academician of the USSR, and in essence they are all banderlogs. Eternal contempt for them, as well as their drinking companion of the three-fingered of their Sverdlovsk, as well as all the eltsinoids who died and are now living.
  40. does it
    does it 30 January 2014 17: 47
    +4
    And here is what Volfovich thinks about this.
  41. Mercenary
    Mercenary 30 January 2014 17: 57
    +2
    Powerful and even creepy. but this is reality. How much does it take to humiliate the Slav brothers so that they finally harnessed and drove off quickly?
    1. does it
      does it 30 January 2014 19: 12
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      Powerful and even creepy. but this is reality. How much does it take to humiliate the Slav brothers so that they finally harnessed and drove off quickly?

      For this, Russia should entrust Ukraine, Belarus and something else into its bosom! and defend your interests around the world.
  42. Lich
    Lich 30 January 2014 17: 59
    0
    Good writers ... Poor production, as usual. The fact that these are our "partners": the USA, England and other evil spirits with them made an effort to the performance - it is understandable, but why many do not notice the obvious .. Ukrainians, brothers, brace yourself - you will stand, we will stand. You will be broken - we are next
  43. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 30 January 2014 18: 00
    0
    "A sick leave has been opened for the President of Ukraine in connection with an acute respiratory illness accompanied by a high fever," said Sashka Orda, deputy head of the State Department for Medical Affairs. Looks like Lousy didn't do it childishly.
  44. Neophyte
    Neophyte 30 January 2014 18: 02
    +1
    Thanks to the author of the video Kurkul! Very good and convincing. It should be shown on all TV channels.
  45. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 30 January 2014 18: 03
    -1
    Quote: My address
    Good article. No one has yet said that it can be not just bad, but very bad for the East, the South - Little Russia. Wherever you throw, everywhere wedge. And what, will we look and grit our teeth?


    ..and the most offensive is that those who are inactive against this mess are hiding behind the curtains of their windows in Kiev, and then we, the Russians, will be accused of inaction ... It didn’t help, like Moscow again ...
  46. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 January 2014 18: 23
    0
    Quote: Vladimir.z.
    Quote: MIKHAN
    the matter lies in perspective ... the defeat of Russia and the Russian world

    In 1941, many also thought so .....

    ! "The most interesting is yet to come ..


    Although now it’s not 41, it will be a holiday, as they say on our street .... it’s a pity that you can’t put troops abroad so that officials do not run in packs to the other side.

    Now, of course, not 41 (if you make a comparative image) But the Kursk Bulge in world politics is for sure .. I think so .. And Russia is also spiritual in its core, no matter how gnawed and poured mud at it .. And another good aphorism .. "We are surrounded ..! It's okay .. you can attack in any direction" This is how we live and, most importantly, we WIN in the end! I'm pathetic, of course, but it's from the heart ..
  47. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 30 January 2014 18: 23
    +5
    this is only the first step in the chain of real persecution prepared by the right-wing fighters for “damned pits”

    ... cute inscription on the garbage can "she's at knives" ...
    ... a herd of salo-eaters, raging with a cry "who does not jump, he is" ...


    - How are you for ** ali with your nationalism, pads ... Everything - together! You are the black-assed Caucasians, the Uryukas of Babaistan, the Baltic Chukhons, the Chisinau damsels, the Crimean animals, ours, the outskirts - pi * ars are wet-mouthed ... All the nationally preoccupied singers of the foreign country! How much more blood will be from you ?! How much more?!! Only for us alone - nothing is needed from anyone but to die in your petty wars. In all cemeteries of the Union - officer bones without names and crosses. But then, having conquered, you come in a crowd of pop freaks - the blue screen stars on x * th are not needed by anyone, with a monstrous accent, distorting words, telling excitedly how cool it is to chop cabbage in Moscow, to touch our women and eat vodka, and at the same time, slut sincerely and righteously, to the point of cramps, hate the Russians! We touched you, oo * ki? Called here ?! (G. Bobrov "The era of the stillborn")
  48. Russ69
    Russ69 30 January 2014 18: 26
    +1
    Meanwhile ...

    Is Novorossia fencing itself off from the "European epidemic"?

    Route "Odessa-Kiev" in the area with. Lyubashevka is covered with concrete blocks. The city site Vgorode.ua informs about it.

    Closed three of the four lanes. Barriers and a traffic police post were installed.

    The regional traffic police said that the passage is closed on the entry of freight vehicles.

    Help "Ukrainian truth." Lyubashevka is the last settlement of Odessa region. to its border with the Kirovograd region., where efforts to seize the state administration were recently suppressed.
    1. coserg 2012
      coserg 2012 30 January 2014 19: 13
      +1
      Odessa has always been smarter than Kiev! If he (Kiev) had not spread rot, it would have been far ahead, and in terms of living .... and in many other respects.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 30 January 2014 20: 08
        +2
        Quote: coserg 2012
        Odessa has always been smarter than Kiev!

        And I would again make Kharkov the capital, as it was before.
        1. coserg 2012
          coserg 2012 30 January 2014 20: 44
          0
          Yes, for God's sake, it's me from my bell tower. I worked there once, at the ANTARKTIKA ChMPO I know many Odessa citizens, and have a very good opinion of them.
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  50. Roman A
    Roman A 30 January 2014 18: 30
    0
    Quote: Roman A
    Was at the Sevastopol forum those offer
    Crimea declares war on Russia and surrenders tomorrow
    One has a forum signature
    Banderlozhestvo mortal sin


    Although it’s impossible for Sevastopol to spoil military statistics, the Russians don’t give up (are not for sale) even to themselves like that