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Russian nationalists declare sympathy for Ukrainian nationalists-Banderovites

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Russian nationalists declare sympathy for Ukrainian nationalists-Banderovites

Everything was mixed up in the Oblonskys' house. For the sake of interest, I typed in the search engine the phrase: “The position of the Russian nationalists on the events in Ukraine!” And was shocked. Here is an excerpt from circulation in Ukraine:


"... White Christian nationalists should be in solidarity with other nationalists (Greek, French, Argentine or Ukrainian - it does not matter). We stand in a united front against the Marxist-liberal foundations. That is why the main nationalist organizations of Russia (RONS, NDP, EPO "Russian") support the protests in Ukraine. Ukrainian nationalists themselves do not set an end to joining the EU, it is only as a tactical maneuver to get out of the influence of the Kremlin. There is no longer that old conflict between the population of the Russian-speaking and Ukrainian. Now things are like this: Soviet-Putin zombies want to enslave Ukraine, which is taking the first steps towards freedom, opponents of Euromaid are afraid that the nationalists will arrange a similar uprising in Moscow ... ”

The full version of the quote is here: http://rusistka.livejournal.com/527http://158.html.

As for the part of the phrase, where to be in solidarity with the Ukrainian, here I am plagued by vague doubts. But more about that later.

In general, many support the "right sector" in Ukraine. In their dislike for Putin and the project of the Customs Union, they are even ready to sacrifice the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine! The author of the lines above writes about Ukraine as a country taking its first steps towards freedom. But to freedom from whom? Lvov from Moscow or Lugansk - also from Moscow? I am also very interested in the opinion of the author, why he believes: "There is no longer that old conflict between the population of the Russian-speaking and Ukrainian"? As a resident and a citizen of Ukraine, and I am of Russian nationality, I agree with him only in part. But at the same time I want to ask him a question: why did this happen? Maybe someone deliberately from Russia ignores football movements in Eastern Ukraine and young people? Maybe because the Russians began to dissolve in the Ukrainians? Maybe because in the Russian-speaking schools of Ukraine there is no subject of Russian literature and stories Russia? And because of the fact that mathematics in Russian, you do not become Russian? Maybe because consumer culture contributes to liberalization? And in the end, maybe because almost 23 of the year has passed, how do we sit at different school desks and with a different media culture? In addition, now again the relationship between the Russian-speaking and "movnye" aggravated. And there has been a split among the Russian-speaking.

And the events of the last five days have shown that in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, young people partially betrayed the older Russian-speaking generation. Especially fan football movements of purely Russian-speaking regions: FC Metalist (Kharkov), FC Metalurg (Zaporizhia), FC Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), FC Shakhtar (Donetsk). One can argue for a long time that there were also visitors from the western regions, and not all were in solidarity with the position of football ultras. But the fact is a fact! Middle and older people and veterans of Afghanistan with the Cossacks stopped the "Bandera" people. I quote from the story "We defended Zaporozhye":

12: 00 near the building of the Regional State Administration of Zaporozhye on the other side of Lenin Avenue, patriots gathered - people who came to defend their native land from the fascist scum. Visually gathered about 200 people of all ages. St. George ribbons were distributed to all, which became a symbol of resistance and raised morale to people, reminding us of the glorious feat of our ancestors in the 40s. Banderlogs with the flags of Fatherland, Blow, Svolota and simply with the Bandera black and red rag gathered directly around the building ...

... They started throwing trifles at us, as if by offering money. Apparently, the rates offered their own, thirty pieces of silver. Then chunks of ice flew at us. We broke the glass behind our backs. Thank God, the fragments did not hit anyone. After that, the jerks of the 14-16 years went ahead and started chanting: “Hero of glory!” The organizers of the riots hoped that this would provoke us to take any action, but they were mistaken. We simply shouted to this shantrapa with our slogans. Ultras, we generally confused, shouting "Metallurg" - the champion! "They shut up, not knowing what to say.


Source: http://vybor.ua/article/grazhdanskoe_obschestvo/my-otstoyali-zaporoje.html

So, the older Russian-speaking generation of the city of Zaporozhye went against their Russian-speaking children of the city of Zaporozhye, who grew up on other values? The fact that the history books of Ukraine have done their job, we figured out a long time ago, that the elite of the south-east merged the “Russian world”, we also know that the official Kremlin did not notice the appearance of Russian-speaking Russian Russophobes in Ukraine, we also know . But I personally can not understand the attitude of unofficial Russia in the face of national currents to the fate of Russians in the south-east of Ukraine. I am not a supporter of Russian nationalism, I am a supporter of imperial nationalism, where Russians can be Tatar, Bashkir, and Belorussian, if they share the ideas of a united and great Russia and Russia. But since there are such trends in the Russian Federation that prioritize ethnicity, I am interested in their opinion on the de-Russification of 7-8 million Russians at the level of consciousness, and then the language? They don’t care, what kind of metamorphosis happens to guys in Ukraine, who have Russian names and surnames? Do they really not know that in Eastern Ukraine there are already cells of Russian-speaking Ukrainian nationalists who honor Stepan Bandera? Do they really not know that any Ukrainian nationalist is still different from their colleague of the Serbian nationalist, because he considers the Russian people to be a mixture of Tatars, Finno-Finns, Bashkirs, Mordovians, Mongols and anyone, but not part of the Slavic peoples and the Slavic family? All this is easily verified even in the Russian-speaking forums of Eastern Ukraine, when you call your interlocutor to unite with Russia, as with the fraternal Slavic people, but in response you hear only the mention that there are no Russians as such in Russia, because there are no Slavic tribes, the word “Russian” stole Muscovy under Peter I, having previously taken away this right from the lands of Kievan Rus and ON.

So I think, maybe they have concluded a secret agreement on the division of the sphere of influence with the Ukrainian nationalists, or they have one owner? But how can you refuse to cooperate and work in cities such as Odessa, Kharkov, Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoy Rog? Immediately plowed field to work. Even by the most conservative estimates, in Ukraine there are about 7 million ethnic Russians! I traditionally keep quiet about the Russian-speaking Ukrainians, who have accepted Russia with their heart and soul. Or is it for them not the Russian land? Where are their famous "Russian runs"? Is it really so difficult to organize cells or just to come? Do visas get in the way? Unlike official Moscow, their hands are not bound by protocols, agreements, etc. You can safely fight for the minds. But instead they admire Ukrainian nationalists, who are felting a monument to Lenin. And the fact that Bandera’s monuments will begin to be erected and in the future there will be a reduction in the use of the Russian language not only because of prohibitions, but also of seducing Ukrainian integral nationalism, do they not care? In different languages, we probably speak.

These paragraphs, authored by the leaders of the cells of the “Russian-speaking Ukrainian nationalists,” I dedicate to all Russian nationalists who sympathize with the Ukrainian pogromists:

And even though he believes that the Ukrainian nationalism of the south-east should be told in the language of the south-east, the current Russian-speaking is called the result of tragic events for Ukraine. Acknowledges that this is a negative and artificial phenomenon. Therefore, it notes that the native for the Russian-speaking Ukrainians do not care - Ukrainian:
"... After calling the Russian native, for some generation they will come across as the Russian people. And the Kremlin will say that" in Ukraine Russians are infringed. "What Russians when 45% of Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine 60% are Ukrainians? Ethnic Russians in Ukraine 10 years ago there were only 17%. The next census may testify that there are even fewer of them, ”the nationalist suggests, and warns that the current Ukrainian authorities are delaying the census in every possible way and at the same time preparing to falsify its results. honors the Russians than it actually is.
Therefore, the Russian-speaking patriots and nationalists Zamilyukhin calls a forced and temporary phenomenonm. According to his conviction, RUN - transition to a conscious and in the future - Ukrainian-speaking Ukraine.


http://gazeta.ua/ru/articles/sogodennya/_v-ukraine-razrastaetsya-dvizhenie-russkoyazychnyh-banderovcev/506906

Are you really ready to stand shoulder to shoulder with those who are storming the RSA in regional centers in their hatred of Putin? But what about Odessa, Donetsk, Kharkov and Sevastopol? They mean nothing to you? Did you deliberately leave a vacuum in Southeastern Ukraine, so that even Russian guys would be carried away by the Bandera movement and, in general, the Ukrainian direction of nationalism? You deliberately did not work with the football movement of south-eastern Ukraine?

Thus, dear friends and readers of “Military Review”, everything failed in Ukraine’s policy: the Russian-speaking elite of the south-east of Ukraine (thinking only about money and power), the Russians themselves living in Ukraine (considered Ukrainian culture to be an insignificant departure from their roots), the official Kremlin (thinks in the old manner that the east of Ukraine is asleep and sees itself from the Russian Federation) and the nationalists of Russia (they probably like the cut-down version of Russia, but they haven't heard anything about 1991 for a year). Or maybe just Russian nationalists believe that there are so many Russians on the planet that you can safely hand over several million Russians to Banderovites for re-education from the master's shoulder?
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  1. evgenii67
    evgenii67 30 January 2014 07: 23
    +1
    I have a Ukrainian Vkontakte to the question: hello, describe if it’s not difficult what’s going on there? I heard that the Euro Maidan 800 rubles. give per day. Here is what he wrote:I’m healthy, айдVromaidanіvtsi stand for the idea, for the view of the secret behind the democracy of the dictatorship for the victorious majority of the people in power, people help one to one, in Lviv and for small shops, I know that there are a lot of people in stores maybe in Maidan there are more than 1000 people and my knowledge of the average bagato and I have never felt that I want to pay for it, people transmit warm speeches and drugs to China, well, in the whole they describe this though almost what is happening in us right here is mash. In Russia, on the rest of the presidential vibrations, they could tell and answer, and hundreds of thousands of people, they didn’t stand for the meeting for 000 rubles, but they stood behind the roof for living and they remembered that they stood for the memory. they weren’t worth it and I protruded, I’ll hope that people in us will stand for democracy and freedom of speech
    1. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 30 January 2014 07: 37
      +50
      in Independence Square more than 1000 000 people

      Nu-nu ... just what the author writes about - they don't think with their head, they read what "Ukrainian wrote on Vkontakte" ...
      1. jjj
        jjj 30 January 2014 11: 09
        +2
        Yes, this picture is impressive and clear.
    2. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 30 January 2014 07: 51
      +4
      Hi Eugene! It's a pity not everyone will be able to read it, but more than a million people "feed and shoe" with donations alone, and what they stand for in general is a cool idea, for the abolition of the dictatorship hidden behind democracy, and the eradication of corruption from power! Great! And here we condemn their actions every day (on the Maidan) ... sad
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 30 January 2014 08: 45
        +3
        Quote: evgenii67
        me Ukrainian Vkontakte to the question

        Hello everyone. I can say one thing, both to the author of the article and to everyone else. About moods in society and people's views on what is happening in Ukraine, about the state of affairs in Russia, etc. it’s impossible to judge by individual publications on the Internet or even by the fact that they’re scamming around the box, and if you really want to get to the truth, to make up a more or less plausible picture for yourself, you probably need to look at a hundred different messages, articles that often contradict each other. The truth is bitter, but the lie is beautiful. Someone who seeks, usually finds.
        1. Normal
          Normal 30 January 2014 10: 14
          +4
          Quote: baltika-18
          Hello everyone. I can say one thing, both to the author of the article and to everyone else. About moods in society and people's views on what is happening in Ukraine, about the state of affairs in Russia, etc. you can’t judge by individual publications on the Internet and even by the fact that balabolyat on the box


          Greetings, Nikolai.
          The whole article is based on this:
          “... White Christian nationalists should be in solidarity with other nationalists (Greek, French, Argentine or Ukrainian - it doesn't matter). We act as a united front against the Marxist-liberal foundations. That is why the main nationalist organizations in Russia (RONS, NDP, EPO "Russians") support the protests in Ukraine. The Ukrainian nationalists themselves do not set membership in the EU as an end in themselves; it is only as a tactical maneuver to get away from the Kremlin's influence. There is no longer that old conflict between the Russian-speaking and Ukrainian populations. Now the situation is like this: the Soviet-Putin zombies want to enslave Ukraine, which is taking the first steps towards freedom, the opponents of Euromaidan are afraid that the nationalists will stage a similar uprising in Moscow ... "

          The full version of the quote is here: The full version of the quote is here: http://rusistka.livejournal.com/527http://158.html.


          Follow the link and ...
          Page not found

          There is no such page. You may have clicked on a broken link or entered the address incorrectly. Some page addresses are case sensitive.

          And the poor, white Internet hybrid of the goat and the lamb is crying.

          But we are not accustomed to retreat and look, who is rusistka? Who speaks so boldly on behalf of the leaders of the Russian nationalists (even peeders, if you like the most rated moderator of all times of the VO site, it’s not about them)?
          Here is her ak on LIVEJOURNAL

          rusistka

          THE STATE IS FOR PEOPLE, NOT PEOPLE FOR THE STATE!
          Not Russians for Russia, but Russia - for Russians (to Romanov and the author of the article BIG HELLO! laughing)

          Name: Elena
          Date of birth: May 7
          Location: Moscow oblast ', Ukrain

          And here is an interesting question about her from the same resource:
          What interests me more is why a person with Jewish roots called himself rusistka and tells the Russians how they should love their homeland?
          At the same time you live in the Moscow region and at the same time in Ukraine.


          In the general article minus.

          Based on a meaningless commentary, which, moreover, cannot be read in the original since it is deleted, the author draws thoughtful conclusions and shifts it from a sick head to a healthy one. Not Russian nationalists in Russia should be blamed for inaction on the territory of Ukraine, but to wonder why Ukrainian nationalists are passive.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 30 January 2014 10: 33
            +4
            Quote: Normal
            Greetings, Nikolai

            Greetings, Vladimir.
            It looks like Nevsky found what he wanted to find.
            Well, you can not guys blindly believe the Internet, he's not the Lord God, after all. winked
            1. Nevsky_ZU
              30 January 2014 10: 56
              +1
              Quote: baltika-18
              Quote: Normal
              Greetings, Nikolai

              Greetings, Vladimir.
              It looks like Nevsky found what he wanted to find.
              Well, you can not guys blindly believe the Internet, he's not the Lord God, after all. winked


              Like I was specifically looking for something bad? I scored the phrase: the attitude of Russian nationalists .... "The second position was this:

              http://rusistka.livejournal.com/527158.html

              There were no other opinions.

              Moreover, dear skeptics, 2 of the day ago, there was a general article on Military Review:

              On the envy of Russian nationalists to the Ukrainian catastrophe

              She was also invented by evil tongues? Smoke without fire.
              1. Russ69
                Russ69 30 January 2014 11: 19
                +2
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                About the envy of Russian nationalists to the Ukrainian catastrophe There is no smoke without fire.

                I do not need Internet articles and stuff. I myself know our Natsik who went to support the Maidan ... And it is not surprising if for them both Bandera and Vlasov are heroes ...
          2. Nevsky_ZU
            30 January 2014 10: 38
            +1
            Hammer a quote in Google ... and then accuse of lying. Purely those. mistake.

            http://rusistka.livejournal.com/527158.html
          3. CTEPX
            CTEPX 30 January 2014 11: 18
            +1
            Quote: Normal
            Based on insignificant commentary, which is also impossible to read in the original

            Respected)).
            Please, type in Yandex:
            White Christian nationalists should be in solidarity with other nationalists (Greek, French, Argentine or Ukrainian - it doesn't matter). We stand in a united front against the Marxist-liberal foundations. That is why the main nationalist organizations in Russia (RONS, NDP, EPO "Russians") support the protests in Ukraine. The Ukrainian nationalists themselves do not set EU membership as an end in themselves, it is only as a tactical maneuver to get away from the Kremlin's influence. There is no longer that old conflict between the Russian-speaking and Ukrainian populations. Now the situation is like this: the Soviet-Putin zombies want to enslave Ukraine, which is taking the first steps towards freedom, the opponents of Euromaidan are afraid that the nationalists will stage a similar uprising in Moscow
            and you will see that the author did not invent anything)).
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      30 January 2014 11: 08
      +3
      Here is an interesting video, the whole ideology of Bandera:

      1. Svobodny
        Svobodny 30 January 2014 15: 14
        0
        Nevsky, you would be more careful with such videos - many people, having seen this speaker in a cassock, will draw conclusions that are far from the truth for which you are fighting. Before us in the video (ABOVE) - an ordinary disguised dissenter-Denisenkovets (by the name of the impostor-"patriarch" M. Denisenko) (the so-called Kiev patriarchy).

        And here are the real monk priests. True Orthodox Christians. It is through their prayers, including on the streets of Kiev, that the Lord did not allow bloodshed:

      2. Anper
        Anper 30 January 2014 16: 03
        0
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Here is a fun video

        Believe - do not believe, the real name of this YouTube star is Stick.
    4. Anper
      Anper 30 January 2014 11: 37
      +4
      Quote: evgenii67
      ромvromaydanіvtsі stand for the idea,

      From Rivne. First-hand.
      No. 1. Telephone conversation with a local resident, 51 years old, no family, lives in a hostel (fragment from memory)
      - Well then, did the brigade go to Moscow, є the robot?
      - Yes.
      “And here I am trochs of occupation.” Adminіstratsіu protect.
      - From whom?
      - Well, here they’ll give you a sandwich for free, nightly pennies, bagato people.
      “But you are not afraid.” What will come BB or Berkutovtsy?
      “I’m afraid that I’ve got a bit too angry, because I can be in vtekt.”

      No. 2. A conversation on the street with a widow 57 years old, a son in another city, an adult daughter (25 years old) living with her.
      - Stand on the Independence Square, but as I did, I caught a cold, I’m standing still. I went to the Administrative Office, they cleaned it up there. Stylki ditey - lads rock for 15 nights to sit there! All the same garni, vikhovanі.
      - So they are 15 years old. what are you, where are their parents? You would at least drive them out, they would listen to you - this is a matter of jurisdiction!
      -Oh, the stench was worried, they’ll be cooked.
      -So my daughter would have been called instead.
      -I'm so bad?
  2. major071
    major071 30 January 2014 07: 27
    +34
    Good morning everyone! hi
    What can we talk about here? And so it is clear that they are dancing to the same tune. After all, they receive money from one source and lick one and the same ass. negative
    against Marxist-liberal foundations.

    This phrase killed me at all. All eggs in one basket. laughing
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 30 January 2014 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: major071
      And it is so clear that they are dancing with the same tune. After all, they receive money from the same source and lick one and the same ass.

      The article is again whipping up hysteria about the mythical "Russian nationalists" and Russian "fascists".
      The author of something found on the Internet what someone has said, once, and obscenely picking his nose, sucks out some vyvovody ...
      The image of a "Ukrainian, nationalist - Bendera member" is glued to the image of a "Russian fascist" - this is to surely intimidate the man in the street into wet pants. And for visualization, a photo is attached with the inscription "Russian March" - with a mental message - do not try to go there, otherwise you will become fascists, Bendera satanists, agents of the State Department, etc.
      Are you not tired of this blizzard? Now I have turned back.
      I understand the fear of certain nationalities of journalists and circles of interests in plundering Russia, in front of Russian marches and increasing political activity of the Russian people, but why should it be so rude and primitive to blacken the Russians?
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        30 January 2014 11: 02
        +6
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Quote: major071
        And it is so clear that they are dancing with the same tune. After all, they receive money from the same source and lick one and the same ass.

        The article is again whipping up hysteria about the mythical "Russian nationalists" and Russian "fascists".
        The author of something found on the Internet what someone has said, once, and obscenely picking his nose, sucks out some vyvovody ...
        The image of a "Ukrainian, nationalist - Bendera member" is glued to the image of a "Russian fascist" - this is to surely intimidate the man in the street into wet pants. And for visualization, a photo is attached with the inscription "Russian March" - with a mental message - do not try to go there, otherwise you will become fascists, Bendera satanists, agents of the State Department, etc.
        Are you not tired of this blizzard? Now I have turned back.
        I understand the fear of certain nationalities of journalists and circles of interests in plundering Russia, in front of Russian marches and increasing political activity of the Russian people, but why should it be so rude and primitive to blacken the Russians?


        The author simply wanted to show that Russian informal national movements are for some reason interested in Russians only within the borders of the RSFSR from 1991. And they scored a bolt on all Russians outside of Russia.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 30 January 2014 12: 27
          -1
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          And they scored a bolt on all Russians outside of Russia.

          They learned this from the government of the Russian Federation!
          1. ovgorskiy
            ovgorskiy 30 January 2014 14: 25
            +5
            For some reason, many people think that since the Russian fascist is white and fluffy, well, well, they are for the Russians. I would like to remind you that there are no good fascists, even though he is German, Italian, Ukrainian or Russian. Something tells me that Ukrainian and Russian Nazism is regulated from one place and their slogans are the same.
            From the plan "Doctrine of Alain Dulles. Director of the CIA"
            ".... In government, we will create chaos and confusion, imperceptibly, but actively and constantly we will contribute to the tyranny of officials, bribe-takers, unprincipledness, bureaucracy and red tape we will elevate to virtue. Honesty and decency will ridicule - they will not be needed by anyone, they will Rudeness and impudence, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear of each other and shameless betrayal, nationalism and enmity of peoples, above all enmity and hatred of the Russian people - we will deftly and imperceptibly cultivate all this, all this bloom in double color ... "
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 30 January 2014 15: 44
              +2
              Quote: ovgorskiy
              For some reason, many people think that since the Russian fascist is white and fluffy,

              To begin with, I saw the "Russian fascists" only on TV (probably everyone went to Moscow to live wink ) I haven’t seen fascists in the city, and I don’t have a swastika ... Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
              1. TiGRoO
                TiGRoO 30 January 2014 23: 15
                +1
                To my regret, S_mirnov is Russian (although they do not deserve this great name) - there are fascists, I personally met such creatures, many of them have more than just a Slavic swastika, namely Hitler’s black cross in a white circle on a red canvas. And the worst thing is getting bigger ...
                And if we do not crush them in the bud, then sooner or later we will get Maidan, and if the humpback is in power at that time, we will be full of money!
  3. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 30 January 2014 07: 29
    +38
    Or maybe if you thoroughly scrape these "the main nationalist organizations of Russia" , there will be no RUSSIANS there. I think true Russian man, it would never occur to him - to stand on a par with the fascists-Bandera.
    1. Pit
      Pit 30 January 2014 07: 34
      +10
      Quote: ia-ai00
      I think it would never occur to a truly Russian person to stand on a par with the Bandera fascists.

      Not so much. It's just that in every society there is a certain percentage
      sick on the head and the healthier the society, the fewer these patients, but
      no less than 2% of the total mass. And our society hurts and
      progresses, and brain injuries of not strengthened minds become aggravated.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 30 January 2014 08: 17
        +17
        About patients - this is true (2% cannot be cured)).
        There are still 7% percent, healthy = who really understand what is happening and they in their speech do not use the division of people into Ukrainians and Russians ... WELL NO UKRAINIANS in nature .... does not exist ..... they are in the brain with the disease and this disease appeared about 100 years ago))))
        WAS SUCH a writer-Gogol-he wrote and THINKED in Russian ...
        The "kobzar" of the outskirts of the Russian Empire wrote prose in Russian - he directly flooded the pages of the PR-language (therefore he remained in his memory)) although he invented rhymes (columns) in the pro-language ....... he was original) although he thought like the Creator, in Russian))))

        You can be great only when you think and write CORRECTLY, Language lives (in) inside the society of People, and He does not understand why Fighter-interceptor some people call- vinishuvach-perekhoplyuvach ))))))
        The Slavs interweave, but during hostilities these pro-words will NOT take root.
        Well, neighing is an excuse, Military People.
        skipka perepikhuntsіv is not a casket for storing gondons, but a gearbox (car)))))) .....
        Well, I’ll insert as Taras Shevchenko a few lines on Mov)))
        Ode to the brain.

        In the hands of a zippo
        Fell on a leather jacket,
        The wichuwalk buzzes in the kitchen,
        I stare at the bored bachik.

        Oh, where are you, where are you stupid?
        What, knowing clearly wisdom,
        I’ve been brought into life not abruptly,
        I screamed out the space.

        You are like a daytime occupation,
        From tenderness, trembling wings,
        I reach my mother
        She said: "egg-spodivayko."

        Thank you for your skill
        For accuracy and diligence,
        That I'm not a scribble villain
        Not tsyutsyurkovy villain!
        Although it’s already somehow not funny ...... sad ..... very .... that the PEOPLE (single)) divides itself into ... Analities ... based on the word to say ......

        P | S /// re-read koment, add)) Kobzar’s name is Taras Shevchenko (suddenly, who doesn’t know)))
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 January 2014 07: 43
      +16
      Quote: ia-ai00
      I think it would never occur to a truly Russian person to stand on a par with the Bandera fascists.

      Why, we have a Normal on the website, he says that he is a nationalist, but at the same time begoi fled to Bolotnaya to take part in rallies against the "Putin regime" when Sobchak called.
      Our nationalists, ordinary liberals, only liberals are wiping everything, here are some of them who call themselves nationalists. The same eggs, only a side view hi
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 30 January 2014 07: 54
        +3
        about sharing a sphere of influence with Ukrainian nationalists, or do they have one owner?

        Through the host and agree, although not. The owner has identified areas of influence. Otherwise, it is not clear that Russian nationalists are abandoning Russians. Only if
        Quote: ia-ai00
        "scrape" these "main nationalist organizations of Russia", there will be no RUSSIANS.
      2. Normal
        Normal 31 January 2014 01: 49
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well why, you have Normal on the site, he says that he is a nationalist, but while running run to Bolotnaya to participate in rallies against the "Putin regime"when Sobchak called.


        Alexander Romanov
        26 December 2013 07: 25
        Hey you, stop rude to me in koient

        Alexander Romanov
        27 December 2013 04: 15
        I don’t write such garbage to you! So take it easy when cornering


        Normal
        27 December 2013 06: 35
        You write other garbage to me and me
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    4. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 30 January 2014 08: 44
      +7
      We act as a united front against the Marxist-liberal foundations. That is why the main nationalist organizations in Russia (RONS, NDP, EPO "Russians") support the protests in Ukraine ... (from the article)


      It is necessary to crush in the bud this nationalist scum, hiding behind the protection of Russians in Russia, before it is too late.
      The "Russian nationalist organizations" have nothing to do with raising the status of the Russian population in Russia. These are provocateurs discrediting the Russian people.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 30 January 2014 11: 28
        +4
        Quote: vladimirZ
        It is necessary to crush in the bud this nationalist scum, hiding behind the protection of Russians in Russia

        We need to work with them. Check through military patriotics for fidelity to Russia)).
        According to experience - half of them are against Russia.
      2. Anper
        Anper 30 January 2014 16: 16
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        It is necessary to crush in the bud this nationalist scum, hiding behind the protection of Russians in Russia,

    5. alebor
      alebor 30 January 2014 10: 01
      +3
      In my opinion, the title of the article and its beginning are provocative and take away from the problem. Is this what Russian nationalists are to blame for what the author writes about? Or is it still a matter of the foreign policy of the Russian leadership? Who needs to make a claim - to Russian nationalists who do not have any real political or economic leverage or to the ruling elite of Russia, showing complete indifference to Russians living abroad?
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  4. Name
    Name 30 January 2014 07: 37
    +13
    Greetings to all. Literally briefly:Russian nationalists declare sympathy for Ukrainian nationalists-Banderovites-nationalist leaders work out the loot,the rest is no mind, consider a cripple!
  5. lelik613
    lelik613 30 January 2014 07: 57
    +2
    You offer a choice between violent psychos and syphilitics.
  6. Denis
    Denis 30 January 2014 08: 01
    +5
    What are the nationalists? Bendera, and who the Nazis obviously did not gear friends? And not nationalists declared sympathy, so ... ordinary masturbators
    Chatting, tearing up the throat at parties (you can’t call such meetings) and screaming about belonging to the movement
    Mental cripples, before that there were national-Bolsheviks with an unconventional leader and the same n .... rum edichka lemon, where are they?
    these pooryut and perish

    Hot dozen goals
    Oryom-think that a thousand votes!
    Why are you so crazy?
    Noise, brother, make noise
    Noise and only?

    Griboyedov "Woe from Wit"
  7. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 30 January 2014 08: 05
    +6
    Alexander is no longer writing the first article that Southeast is gradually ceasing to be Russian. It can be seen that for a Russian resident of this region this is a very serious topic. He beats all the bells, to see the situation is really awful, if Russian football ultras are already Russophobes.
    1. Bumbik
      Bumbik 30 January 2014 08: 46
      -3
      I heard that if a visitor in Kiev asks for help in Russian, they will ignore it. If in Ukrainian or English, then they will help. Need to take note. If I am going to go there for shopping, I must immediately say that Belarus is far from sin
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 30 January 2014 10: 35
        +2
        Quote: Bumbik
        I heard that if a visitor in Kiev asks for help in Russian, they will ignore it.

        Until recently, this was not the case! And in general they spoke Russian calmly. But over the last 2 months of the "revolution", there have been cases of beating of Russian-speaking residents of Kiev. Speak at once in your native Belarusian, so that no one understands from which part of Ukraine you have come! The languages ​​are so similar, and we have so many varieties of adverbs that you will pass for your own! lol
      2. CTEPX
        CTEPX 30 January 2014 11: 31
        +1
        Quote: Bumbik
        If I am going to go there for shopping, I must immediately say that with Belarus

        Do not say. They can bang)).
      3. PPL
        PPL 30 January 2014 15: 04
        0
        Quote: Bumbik
        "... we must immediately say that Belarus is out of harm's way"

        The principle is known: My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything.
        But will he help? They hit on the face, not on the passport. lol
  8. parus2nik
    parus2nik 30 January 2014 08: 09
    +4
    Those. nationalists of all countries unite? .. Then this is already called the International .. Lord nationalists throw up the idea .. create an international organization Nationalist International .. and what was the International, the Communist International was also, the Socialist is still there, it’s really breathing .. smile
  9. ZU-23
    ZU-23 30 January 2014 08: 10
    +11
    It is generally necessary to ban these moronic gatherings in any country, these are fascists and terrorists. Let’s even look at the Russian Natsiks, well, they’ve at least once bored out some irresponsible people of another nationality, they only beat ordinary working people and the crowd at one. It’s still interesting why not organize the Russian movement against nationalism and extremism, so that people of any nationalities of Russia enter, then we can say for sure that we are united Russia.
  10. mabuta
    mabuta 30 January 2014 08: 14
    +18
    On August 2, we’re sitting with the guys celebrating. There comes some kind of black shirt in a t-shirt, camouflage pants in berets and a haircut. And let us sing about the Russian idea, and they say we should wet all non-Russians. And the Uzbek from the Chirchik brigade sat with us the same Ukrainian from Kirovograd. In short, they neighed, kicked and torn their pants and sent home. When they unfolded imperial flags next to gay rainbow irons everything fell into place. Young people always had a certain subculture. And the USA always used this to destabilize Russia paying leaders, then punks, then dude or someone else. But time shows that everything passes. The main, multinational and multiconfessional RUSSIA remains.
    1. Skarte
      Skarte 30 January 2014 08: 34
      +7
      These Natsiks neither geography, and certainly the history of Russia do not know ... "Russia for the Russians", well, damn it, after such phrases from Russia to see only the Moscow principality will remain.
      There was a case in Astrakhan. My friend and I rode bicycles in the center, I saw a crowd of young people walking around the square (from 15 to 18), agitating, imperial flags in their hands. I drove up to the guy with the flag and asked "why are you with the imperial flags" to which I received the answer "I don't know, that's what the elders said" ... That's all, the young people apparently don't even understand the essence, for them it's fun, a way to stand out .. . Correctly said mabuta
      Young people always had a certain subculture.
      Fresh brains, sculpt what you want and how you want!
  11. Skarte
    Skarte 30 January 2014 08: 20
    +5
    If America yells that it supports the Natsiks in Ukraine because those are for shit democracy, so those Natsiks are not for an idea, but for green candy wrappers ... I won’t be surprised if our stupid Natsiks are fed with cabbage so that extra thoughts, if any, are not slipping into my head (Natsik-map of America and they are playing it) ... Eternal quote of V.V. Mayakovsky
    "After all, if the stars are lit -
    means - somebody needs it? "
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 30 January 2014 08: 21
    +9
    Hello everyone! It would be interesting to see the meeting of Russian nationalists with our Bandera! wassat What would they sing then?
    But seriously, such statements cannot be ignored. So far they are chatting, and then they can study and apply the "experience". I understand that the Russian OMON will cope, but there will be many more victims. And it is not known which side is more. That which smolders "in the soul" can be blown up to the point of fire, especially with Western money. And I do not exclude that the events in Ukraine are a rehearsal of the West for attempts to use such nationalists in Russia.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 30 January 2014 08: 33
      +9
      I would also be interested to look at this meeting, through the front sight of a machine gun or a telescopic sight!
  13. Humpty
    Humpty 30 January 2014 08: 25
    +2
    What an idiot you need to be in order to openly shine your insanity and meanness.
  14. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 30 January 2014 08: 28
    +9
    To which? This or who are in the back? Both are the same. Some were wearing masks on the Maidan, others were hiding in the forests, but only the young "generation" went where further, the old people never dreamed of this ... (actors do not count)
  15. Alex_on
    Alex_on 30 January 2014 08: 36
    +10
    I wonder what UNA-UNSO did in Chechnya if they were "for the white race"?
    Are Russian nationalists so stupid and see nothing besides the dibilator?
    Found allies .....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 January 2014 08: 45
      +9
      Quote: Alex_on
      Found allies .....

      Such nationalists at Vlasov served for "Motherland" fought with their own people.
  16. Fox
    Fox 30 January 2014 08: 40
    +4
    I read to myself (I am a nationalist), and I am surprised ... all my friends DO NOT suffer SUCH garbage. maybe we are the wrong nationalists? ... there (on the Maidan) the patients simply gathered.
  17. serge
    serge 30 January 2014 08: 43
    +8
    There are no organizations of Russian nationalists in Russia. The people of nationalism are more than enough, but there are no organizations. That is, there are organizations, but in essence they are organized by the Zionists and are headed by them. Ordinary members of these organizations may be Russian, but they do not define politicians. Moreover, such organizations are often specially created by appropriate structures to attract the protest layer of the population and its subsequent seating in the camps. The only truly Russian who tried to organize an effective organization of a national sense, Kvachkov, has been sitting for a long time. And the provocateurs supporting Bandera are financed exactly from the same sources as the Ukrainian fascists. That is, from American sources and sources of the international Jewish mafia.
  18. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 30 January 2014 08: 48
    +5
    The narrow-minded support the narrow-minded ...
    Mabute - thank you very much for your comment and an unconditional "plus"! ..
  19. calocha
    calocha 30 January 2014 09: 06
    +2
    The same forces are being cultivated there and ..here! With the same goal! The gatherings are all together ... in Ukraine ...
  20. Neophyte
    Neophyte 30 January 2014 09: 13
    +1
    Narrow-mindedness is easily treated - sending to Novaya Zemlya, digging trenches from the possible aggression of neighboring Norway. In general, the tragedy of generations in southeastern Ukraine, breaking ties with Russia, is a common disaster.
    Until it’s too late, the author is right, it is necessary to save the Russian World!
  21. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 30 January 2014 09: 23
    +1
    Nationalism was artificially and deliberately mixed with dirt and with the words "fascism", "racism", "chauvinism". There was a shift in concepts and a negative attitude was formed regarding the very concept of the word nationalism.
    "Nationalism is a spiritual fire that elevates a person to sacrificial service, and the people to spiritual prosperity. Nationalism is manifested primarily in the instinct of national self-preservation, and this instinct is a true and justified state. You should not be ashamed of it, extinguish or suppress it; you need to comprehend it before face of God, spiritually substantiate and ennoble his manifestations. " (I.A.Ilyin (1883-1954), Russian philosopher and political scientist.)

    "Nationalism is the highest phase of the development of patriotism, in which the understanding of the key truth prevails: the nation is primary, the state is secondary. I will give both definitions that seem to me to be the best and most correct:
    1) “Nationalism is the love of our nation and concern for it” (that is, not just love, but active, active love);
    2) “Nationalism - the instinct of self-preservation of the people; this instinct is asleep when nothing threatens the nation, but wakes up in the fateful year of trials. ” The first (love and care) is true in relation to the individual person, the second (self-preservation instinct) - in relation to the masses (Handbook of a Russian person, author-compiler Ivanov AA)
    .
    This should not be confused with "radical nationalism", which shames the very concept of nationalism. Earlier (up to the 70s) among us, among the Russians, among the youth, it was disgusting to crowd one, and even more so another nation. You cannot call those same "maydanutyh" nationalists. The concept of a Nazi is more suitable for them, such "provocateurs" are found among every nation, although this word comes from German fascists. They multiply when society is sick and then a little shift of concepts and financial infusion is the "desired" result. This disease is very contagious and the sowing of "such a virus" is known from where, as some members of the forum say "from the same nest." Ukraine has been sick for a long time, and we have "this virus", albeit to a lesser extent, but also rampant - all this is from European "capitalist" values ​​(like drugs, to which already addictive occurs, especially among the younger generation). It is high time to treat the disease, but it is necessary from the head. Our president is trying to do this, but too many metastases have spread ...
  22. Igor39
    Igor39 30 January 2014 09: 35
    +3
    To bring everyone together, to the cars and to the construction site in the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, such changes change political views well.
  23. dmb
    dmb 30 January 2014 09: 43
    +3
    The author's pain for his homeland is understandable and justified. True, it is not entirely clear why he connects the love and friendship of Ukrainian and Russian nationalists with their mutual hatred of Putin. Nationalism is just an outer cover. The main essence of the contradictions was and is in the social plane. I have given examples more than once. when "ardent fighters for the purity of blood" have nothing against "guest worker" Usmanov or Rinat Akhmetov. They enjoy money from them to sing "God Save the Tsar" or "Ukraine has not died yet." Considering that Putin loves them, the capitalists too, there are no contradictions between him and the nationalists. And that the latter sometimes scold him, so "cute scold only amuse themselves." And then it gives an excellent opportunity to "rally the nation to repel the enemy," and distracts from silly thoughts about inflation, tariffs and Serdyukov.
  24. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 30 January 2014 10: 05
    +4
    Russians in Ukraine who do not want to be Russian, who are they? unequivocally geeks and traitors. exactly the same as those who left for the West and aspiring to become Europeans and Americans. we have similar ones in Russia and it is quite obvious that a whole generation of geeks has grown up in Ukraine. but is it not their Russian parents to blame for this? who themselves wanted "to live more beautifully than impoverished Russia". And now they whine "help" - no, "saving the drowning is the business of the drowning themselves." Ukraine must go through purgatory.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      30 January 2014 11: 06
      +3
      Quote: uhjpysq1
      Russians in Ukraine who do not want to be Russian, who are they? unequivocally geeks and traitors. exactly the same as those who left for the West and aspiring to become Europeans and Americans. we have similar ones in Russia and it is quite obvious that a whole generation of geeks has grown up in Ukraine. but is it not their Russian parents to blame for this? who themselves wanted "to live more beautifully than impoverished Russia". And now they whine "help" - no, "saving the drowning is the business of the drowning themselves." Ukraine must go through purgatory.


      Tell me please, after 1991, the cities of Kharkov, Donetsk, Odessa, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk, were you supposed to leave for Russia en masse, leaving the same Russian lands? Just year after year, not forbidding to use the Russian language and having rights, unlike the Baltic states, where Russians were made of close-knit people, here in Ukraine they relaxed bread and began to dissolve.
      1. uhjpysq1
        uhjpysq1 30 January 2014 11: 36
        0
        in Ukraine, loaves of bread were loosened) that's just it. and now I don’t want to get it at all. Bandera’s guys will put you on a cookie. They didn’t touch you.) haha. Brains swam with independence fat. They themselves voted for the separation. living expensively-richly) like in Europe. I was just before the collapse of the USSR and in Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk. All of you there with your own independence and your own exclusivity ran like a chicken with an egg) now wash yourself with blood! or move the rolls further)
  25. Toporkoff
    Toporkoff 30 January 2014 10: 49
    +1
    NO SLAVES EXCEPT ANCIENT !!! BEAT Krivichy - SAVE HOLY RUSSIA !!! laughing
  26. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 30 January 2014 11: 21
    +5
    White christian nationalists should be in solidarity with other nationalists (Greek, French, Argentinean or Ukrainian - it doesn't matter). We stand in a united front against the Marxist-liberal foundations. That is why the main nationalist organizations in Russia (RONS, NDP, EPO "Russians") support the protests in Ukraine.

    Delirium of an incurable psychopath.
    If a nationalist is in solidarity with nationalists of other nationalities, he is not a nationalist, but an internationalist Marxist.
    Ukrainian nationalists equally hate Russian, Polish, Jewish nationalists, which has been proved more than once by deed.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      30 January 2014 11: 52
      +2
      Ukrainian nationalists equally hate the Russian, Polish, Jewish nationalists, which they have often proved by deed.


      Did the Russians prove their business with Ukrainian? sad
      1. uhjpysq1
        uhjpysq1 30 January 2014 13: 07
        0
        Well, prove it if you want your children and grandchildren to remain Russian!
      2. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 30 January 2014 13: 33
        +3
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Did the Russians prove their business with Ukrainian?

        Russians throughout their history have never been nationalists and have never hated other nations.
        Bandera was caught, hanged and planted not for nationality or even for nationalism, but for senseless monstrous brutal murders of entire families up to infants, inclusive, for robberies, arson and other crimes against the Ukrainian people.
        The people rebuilt the country after the war, and this undead shot him in the back and tried to intimidate with terror. The creatures that were sitting in rat burrows themselves did not live and disturbed others.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          30 January 2014 15: 07
          +1
          Corsair, Catch +
  27. vikov
    vikov 30 January 2014 11: 49
    -5
    A typical article of hanging labels, let alone the phrase: "..in the southeastern regions of Ukraine, young people have partially betrayed the older Russian-speaking generation." This is generally a pearl of the wretched ideology of heredity of shackles, on the Maidan there is a poster with the following words: Russians and Ukrainians are brothers in blood, but not brothers in slavery.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      30 January 2014 12: 05
      +4
      Quote: vikov
      A typical article of hanging labels, let alone the phrase: "..in the southeastern regions of Ukraine, young people have partially betrayed the older Russian-speaking generation." This is generally a pearl of the wretched ideology of heredity of shackles, there is a poster on the Maidan with the following words: Russians and Ukrainians are blood brothers, but not slavery brothers.


      Well then, let's proclaim Russia from the Carpathians to Alaska, replace Putin. Or for you Russians of Lugansk and Sevastopol are closer than Russians of Bryansk? So to speak, throw off the fetters of slavery. But something tells me you like the project of a small but proud Russia (Galicia).
      1. vikov
        vikov 30 January 2014 13: 37
        -2
        And you are for not a single bird, albeit proud, to come off the flock wink the laws of the flock do not care, maybe we’ll try to create something where we can recommend our children live, otherwise I remember they always said - go from here, you can’t live here.
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 January 2014 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: vikov
      on the Maidan there is a poster with these words: Russians and Ukrainians are brothers in blood, but not brothers in slavery.

      They still know that the Russians do not want to be slaves to the EU)).
      1. vikov
        vikov 30 January 2014 13: 39
        0
        You want to say that the children of the Russian elite in the EU are in slavery? crying
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 30 January 2014 15: 53
          0
          Quote: vikov
          You want to say that the children of the Russian elite in the EU are in slavery?

          Of course. As soon as they stop feeling like Russians)).
    3. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 30 January 2014 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: vikov
      A typical article of hanging labels, let alone the phrase: "..in the southeastern regions of Ukraine, young people have partially betrayed the older Russian-speaking generation." This is generally a pearl of the wretched ideology of heredity of shackles, on the Maidan there is a poster with the following words: Russians and Ukrainians are brothers in blood, but not brothers in slavery.

      The repetition of lies about the allegedly former slavery of Ukrainians or Russians is a grovel before our common enemies, who launched this dirty lie.
      The Eastern Slavs never had real slavery, such as in Western Europe. They tried to enslave, killed millions of people, but could not subjugate and bend.
      1. vikov
        vikov 30 January 2014 13: 42
        -2
        Study.
        TARASOV Boris Yuryevich
        "RUSSIA FORTRESS. HISTORY OF PEOPLE'S SLAVERY"
        http://lib.rus.ec/b/340794/read

        It is enough to compare the number of riots.
    4. tank74
      tank74 3 February 2014 16: 31
      0
      Do you read Ukrainian social networks. There are already organizations of "Ukrainian Russian-speaking nationalists". So they say that their ancestors were forcibly forced to speak Russian and it is urgent to forget it.
      Well, the statement about the shackles is who and where did you put them? Therefore -.
  28. buzer
    buzer 30 January 2014 12: 11
    +4
    Do not forget one significant nuance !!! And how many of those Nazi racists in every nation ??? In percentage terms ??? Usually, those representatives of the nation who feel their inferiority are hitting Nazism and thus increase their self-esteem. I can understand the Ukrainians, they can’t create a self-sufficient Ukrainian state, but why should the Russians with their great history and great culture thus increase their self-esteem as a nation ???
    PS I want to emphasize that Nazism and nationalism are two different things !!! Hating people of a different nationality is one thing !!! And to love your people is completely different !!! According to the Hero of the Soviet Union, the son of the Kazakh people Bauyrzhan Momyshuly “National pride is an integral part of the sense of Soviet patriotism
    person. One who does not respect his nation and
    not proud of her (and there is something to be proud of
    each nation), that unconditional scoundrel and
    tramp"
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 30 January 2014 13: 23
      +1
      Quote: buzer
      PS I want to emphasize that Nazism and nationalism are two different things !!! Hating people of a different nationality is one thing !!! And to love your people is completely different !!!

      Nationalism and Nazism are synonyms, a Nazi, a nationalist always considers himself (first of all), his people, his religion, his customs are certainly better than all other peoples and their religion and customs.
      All the atrocities and genocide on earth is the work of nationalists. Religious fanatics are the same nationalists, only a rear or side view.
      Standard nationalist.
    2. vikov
      vikov 30 January 2014 13: 48
      0
      The Soviet people were not a nation, as they wrote, a new community, and in the words of the son of the Kazakh people there is still that sense.
  29. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 30 January 2014 13: 48
    +2
    We are a united front against the Marxist-liberal foundations.


    God, what a mess in these restless heads ... They themselves do not know what they want. The main thing here is a stupid protest, with bulging balls. There is something of animals in this.
  30. Clegg
    Clegg 30 January 2014 14: 12
    +1
    Russian nationalists against TS good
  31. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 30 January 2014 14: 30
    0
    Hello everyone! He laughed, but didn’t figure out who was talking about. It’s simple: the Nazis, whoever they were by nationality, are sent to labor camps for 10 years (go to secondary school again!) Enough with rush about them!
  32. Docent1984
    Docent1984 30 January 2014 14: 34
    0
    Fascism has never been and cannot be at least somewhat supported by Russian people. This is absurd, if only because no one can now definitely say who the Russian people are ... How to say who is Russian and who is not, if the superethnos that inhabit the sixth of the world are descendants of a great many peoples, tribes, ethnic groups with different religions, different customs? Russian is equally a descendant of the Slav and the Turk, the Pomors and the Mongols, the Buryats and the Chukhons ... This is the reason that we cannot be defeated and won, cannot be destroyed, we cannot be enslaved. And therefore, Russian always accepts people of other nationalities not as enemies. All those who are called Russian nationalists are flawed, offended by life, underdeveloped human-like people whom normal Russian people in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova and other countries never take for their own.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 30 January 2014 15: 07
      0
      Quote: Docent1984
      Fascism has never been and cannot be at least somewhat supported by Russian people. This is absurd, if only because no one can now definitely say who the Russian people are ... How to say who is Russian and who is not, if the superethnos that inhabit the sixth of the world are descendants of a great many peoples, tribes, ethnic groups with different religions, different customs?

      Stupid nonsense of ignoramus.
      A Russian person is a descendant of Russian people by 99%, otherwise in 1000 years the anthropological appearance and genotype, language and customs of the Russian people would change, as happened with the Spaniards, Italians, Germans, French and British. But this is not observed among the Russians, even in the era of mass urbanization, when there is a migration of the rural population into cities and the assimilation of peoples.
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      2. atalef
        atalef 30 January 2014 15: 14
        +1
        (
        Quote: Corsair5912
        otherwise, the anthropological appearance and genotype, language and customs of the Russian people would have changed in 1000 years, as happened with the Spaniards, Italians, Germans, French and British. But this is not observed among the Russians,

        Well, for starters, as I understand you are blond? Speak in the Old Russian dialect (only in your comment at least 12 borrowed words), after sitting at the table, drink vodka (Polish invention). bite with dumplings (Tatar), herring (Dutch) and of course potatoes - thanks Columbus.
        Like sbiten, porridge, rutabaga and pies - on your table I don’t think there are any.

        Quote: Corsair5912
        But this is not observed in the Russians

        Observed, even as observed.
  33. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 30 January 2014 14: 36
    +1
    We all have porridge in our heads.
    Yandex - Wikipedia - Nationalism. "Nationalism preaches loyalty and devotion to its nation, political independence and work for the benefit of its own people, cultural and spiritual growth of national identity for the practical protection of the living conditions of the nation, its territory of residence, economic resources and spiritual values."
    And hatred of other nations is Chauvinism, if anyone does not know.
    Nat - ism - this is national socialism. Trotsky said that his goal is socialism throughout the world. Therefore, this is internationalism, later - Trotskyism. But Hitler said that his goal was to build socialism only in Germany, only for the Germans. This is Nazism. Who and why fascism has drawn to Nazism is a separate question.
    And we are told that nationalists are scumbags. But in reality, these are not nationalists, but chauvinists. But chauvinists and Zionists - this is one field of berries.
    People, think what you say.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 30 January 2014 15: 22
      0
      Quote: igor-pchelkin
      We all have porridge in our heads.
      Yandex - Wikipedia - Nationalism. "Nationalism preaches loyalty and devotion to its nation, political independence and work for the benefit of its own people, cultural and spiritual growth of national identity for the practical protection of the living conditions of the nation, its territory of residence, economic resources and spiritual values."

      This is your porridge, and we have brains. Wiki is not an authority.

      Great Encyclopedic Dictionary
      NATIONALISMideology and politics in the national question, the basis of which is the interpretation of the nation as the highest value and form of community. In the 19-20 centuries. nationalism emerged as a powerful unifying force in the struggle for national liberation in Europe, and then in Africa, Asia and Latin America, accompanied by the idea of ​​national superiority and national exclusiveness; often takes extreme forms (chauvinism), draws closer to racism and leads to acute internal or interstate conflicts.

      Modern explanatory dictionary of the Russian language T.F.Efremova
      NATIONALISM [nationalism] m. 1) a) Ideology and politics, the basis of which are the ideas of national exceptionalism and national superiority, the interpretation of the nation as the highest form of society. b) The elevation to the rank of state policy of selfishness of some kind. nation. 2) National self-consciousness, which under certain socio-historical conditions - in conditions of national oppression - serves the cause of national emancipation and national independence.

      NATSISM (National Socialism) - German. version of fascism, accumulating its main. systemic signs and characterized by a special emphasis on racism and militarism. The ideological forerunner of N. in Germany was H. S. Chamberlain, Wagner's son-in-law, who developed the ideas of German. exclusivity, justifying the need to reject democracy, from the parliamentary system as unacceptable for the Germans. He, in many respects, anticipated N.'s anticlericalism, putting forward the idea of ​​the so-called. "German Christianity". According to the existing version, direct. influence on the formation of Nazi doctrine in the beginning. 1920s
      Mn. characteristic features of N. stem from Hitler's concept of the conquest of power, which provided for the creation of an anti-democratic. regime, overcoming democr. in-tov society "from within", without the open use of force. N.'s concepts were developed and were implemented to certain extent by the NSDAP (National Socialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) in 1933–45, during the period of the Nazi regime in Germany.
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  35. Oleg56.ru
    Oleg56.ru 30 January 2014 14: 40
    +1
    Russian nationalists for Ukrainians are just M.O.S.K.A.L.I. And M.O.S.K.A.L.E.Y.Ukrainian.natsi are going to hang on lampposts. So welcome to Ukraine, Russian nationalists, they are looking forward to see you there. am
    1. vikov
      vikov 30 January 2014 14: 54
      -2
      Russian nationalists are Russian nationalists, and no one will hang them anywhere, the Ukrainian people are very hospitable, but for the time being imperial ambitions of guests.
      1. uhjpysq1
        uhjpysq1 30 January 2014 16: 20
        +1
        , the Ukrainian people are very hospitable))))))))))
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  37. Makarov
    Makarov 30 January 2014 14: 54
    +1
    This is not entirely true. There were many young guys in the Zaporozhye Regional State Administration. Some of them looked like criminals and gopniks, but the majority were adequate guys 25-35 years old. The barrels were brought by a truck with numbers from the memory ... there was also a cinema "Baida", which either sheltered or was captured by stormtroopers and immediately made a "medical point" there (like you can't attack the red cross), there was also the hotel "Intourist" ... a fascist "bastard" was filming a video from its balcony, and then bumpy activists hid in the lobby, when they started to flow from the lights ... although I really wanted to ... and there was also one restaurant that did not let these freaks in, which they then caught up with in the courtyards (they did not know the city) ... the cops also figured out and twisted the leader of this movement (the campaign was not without the fate of the SBU) ... The next day, the oppa promised everyone to collect not 10 (where there were 000 of them was not clear from), but 10 ... no one came at all ... not a single one ... something like that ...
  38. huginn
    huginn 30 January 2014 14: 54
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    ! I did not even expect such geyropeystva from Russian nationalists!
  39. huginn
    huginn 30 January 2014 14: 56
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    Or do Russian nationalists preach the Christian principle — hit one cheek, turn the other?
  40. huginn
    huginn 30 January 2014 15: 02
    +1
    It's good, by the way, that they said so! Now it became clear to me, to whose tune the "Russian nationalists" are dancing! Obviously, the State Department's ears are sticking out!
  41. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 30 January 2014 15: 03
    +1
    Yes, we all have porridge in our heads.
    Yandex - Wikipedia - Nationalism. "Nationalism preaches loyalty and devotion to its nation, political independence and work for the benefit of its own people, cultural and spiritual growth of national identity for the practical protection of the living conditions of the nation, its territory of residence, economic resources and spiritual values."
    And hatred of other nations is Chauvinism, if anyone does not know.
    Nat - ism is a national-ion social-ism. Trotsky said that his goal was to build socialism throughout the world. This is internationalism, and later - Trotskyism. But Hitler said that his goal was to build socialism only in Germany, only for the Germans. This is Nazism. Why fascism was later dragged into Nazism - this is a separate conversation.
    But chauvinism and Zionism - this is one field of the berry.
    And then they changed our concepts. Chauvinism was called nationalism. And it turns out that if I say that I am Russian and love my Motherland and my people, then they immediately announce me a nationalist and shout: "Fas!" In fact, these scumbags on the Maidan are not nationalists at all, but ardent chauvinists. That's the whole truth!
  42. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 30 January 2014 15: 39
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    I answer Corsair. I say that they replaced.
  43. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 30 January 2014 16: 43
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    Among the comments were words about some kind of normal nationalists. But you must admit, no nationalist can be normal. And most interestingly, nationalists (of any nationality) are always ready to accept help from a potential adversary (an enemy of their country and people), and then frankly stand in front of him with cancer. It is a fact.
  44. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 30 January 2014 23: 28
    +2
    All this from a lack of intelligence and proper upbringing, it is necessary to return the pioneers and Komsomol in October (in the likeness), you need to work with children from 3-5 years old so that they know the real story! To know what Bandera and Vlasovites did, what Hitler wanted to do with the peoples of the USSR, what would happen if these creatures came to our country again! That's when, from childhood, the child will know what is good and what is bad, then the scum percentage will decrease!

    And there will be no Russian-speaking fascists!
  45. Roman Meshcheryak
    Roman Meshcheryak 1 December 2015 00: 32
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    First, I would like to thank the author. The media are reluctant to talk about such facts, both Russian and Ukrainian. Russian-speaking xenophobic nationalists in Ukraine are a fact that disproves many theories. The following common myths are debunked:
    1) The conflict in the east of Ukraine is connected with the language issue;
    2) The Ukrainian language oppresses Russian;
    3) The preservation of the Russian language in the CIS countries helps to strengthen the cohesion of Russia with the population of these countries;
    4) Nationalism always proceeds from feelings of love for the culture, history and language of their country;
    5) The Ukrainian language fell into decline due to the imperial policy of the USSR, and in independent Ukraine it should revive;
    6) Defenders of the Russian language in Ukraine love Russia;
    7) Russian nationalism will be a means against Ukrainian nationalism
    And other.

    The most logical answer to the questions that arise when reading the article will be the following: who do we take for "nationalists" (or "patriots") - a variant of football hooligans or members of youth groups. All signs are there: uniting in crowds, symbolism, aggressive behavior, hatred of "strangers". No love for the Motherland is unfamiliar to them: to Russia, to Ukraine. And you wonder: why do Ukrainian "patriots" do not want to learn their "native" Ukrainian language, and Russian "patriots" sprinkle with American words, are delighted with Western music, keep their savings in dollars and buy summer cottages abroad? It is very simple: for the majority of patriots, love for Russia ends with a glamorous little fry in the form of a St. George's ribbon, and love for Ukraine among their Ukrainian colleagues - with the slogan "Mos * lyaku - for a gilyak!"