Destructive "mechanics" of the international issue

Against the background of the current Ukrainian events, any information relating to ultra-radical nationalistic manifestations in society and the state, gives a serious destructive tinge. Any transformation of nationalism from intellectual ideology into the ideology of “unlimited” Nazism in the shortest possible time can bring any, albeit strong or even three times strong, state into a state of acute or permanent chaos.

The other day one of the interview topics taken by correspondents newspaper "Izvestia" the head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, has become the national theme and its role in modern Russia. Kadyrov, as is well known, is famous for his eccentric and loud statements and suggestions that in Russian society forms far from being the most positive attitude towards him, but we must pay tribute to the leader of Chechnya in that Kadyrov definitely does not leave indifferent to himself. Due to this, Ramzan Kadyrov became a truly “media” politician of Russia. Some like it, others for this state of affairs subject Kadyrov to harsh criticism, and for others, their eyes are filled with blood at the very mention of the name of the Chechen chapter alone.

This time, answering journalists ’questions, Kadyrov rather obviously presented himself as a statesman, understanding what exactly today external and internal“ friends of Russia ”can destabilize the situation in Russia. Certainly, many representatives of the Russian public, for a number of understandable reasons, are not ready to perceive Kadyrov’s words as a frank speech of the current politician, the head of the region, regarding the solution of civilizational and other problems of modern Russia, but pay attention to what Ramzan Kadyrov told .

The main idea voiced in that part of Kadyrov's interview, which was devoted to issues of interethnic and interfaith interaction, was that Kadyrov considered the raising of the “inter-ethnic issue” as the main threat to Russia's security. At the same time, Kadyrov remarked that he is in favor of imposing special responsibility for those people who are intently inciting ethnic hatred. According to him, such people today, quote:

more dangerous than a terrorist, accomplice or recruiter. He moves freely, has access to everything.

Ramzan Kadyrov:

Not terrorism, but the national question is dangerous for Russia. The enemies of Russia provoke interethnic conflicts. Everyone who goes to the nationalist rallies, you need to plant. What are they missing? After all, nothing is solved at the rally. It means that someone outside is behind them. We have a lot of public organizations, NGOs, which receive funding from the West and from Europe, and they are fighting against Russia, and I advocate that problems be solved legally, according to the law ...

Our law does not stipulate that the punishment for Caucasians should be tougher than for Siberians. We are citizens of one country and are united before the law. I will not defend all Caucasians, among them there are those who behave incorrectly. In any case, they should respect the culture of all representatives of the nationalities of Russia.

Of course, the words of Ramzan Kadyrov may seem ostentatious - specially “retouched” by journalists, but, by and large, Kadyrov is right in this situation. And although the statement that “non-terrorism ... is dangerous for Russia” can hardly be called successful in the passage mentioned, but otherwise it’s all about the case.

Recently there has not been such a situation in which the raised inter-ethnic issue in a particular state would lead this state to full development. Torn Yugoslavia is just one example. The cultivation of the inter-ethnic issue and deliberately politicized ethnic stratification is born either when the state's economy, as they say, breathes its last, or when the economy is just a reason to unleash a machine of fratricidal terror by the hands of foreign "mechanics".

Today, these "mechanics" manifest themselves "in all its glory" on the territory of Ukraine. More recently, foreign "mechanics" tried to run a similar scenario in Russia. Echoes of such a scenario in our country, by the way, continue to be heard almost on a regular basis today. One of the recent attempts to "unleash" the national question was the idea of ​​holding a so-called rally against "Islamophobia and Caucasophobia" in the very center of Moscow.

One of the main ideological inspirers of such an action is the lawyer Abakar Abakarov, who said that about a million representatives of the peoples of the North Caucasus and Transcaucasia, the Volga region, Central Asia would gather at the rally. One would have thought that the holding of this event, which gave such a strong smell of provocation, in its plans was borne by Mr. Abakarov himself, however, paying attention to who was supposed to arrive as “guests” of the rally, it becomes clear that the “mechanics” are hardly whether the Russian spill ...

One of the structures that was supposed to hold a rally against "Islamophobia" is the Union of Tatar Youth with a name that coincides with the name of the Kazan branch of Radio Liberty - Azatlyk. Here, really, an unexpected coincidence. By the way, did Abakarov and supporters of this idea really have evidence that Tatar youth are infringed upon their rights ...

In addition to the Azatlyk activists, representatives of a no less extravagant organization, the Union of Political Emigrants from Central Asia, were to take part in the "millionth" march. A colorful picture emerges: emigrants arrived from the republics of Central Asia, saying that they were allegedly persecuted for political reasons; Russia of these political emigrants (knowing about their "political" adversities or not knowing) accepted, and these political emigrants, you see, now decided to also Russia itself to teach the mind-mind in terms of interethnic and interfaith relations. Moreover, it was decided to teach not without representatives of those foreign structures (media) that do not even hide the fact that they are funded directly by the US Congress (this, of course, is about Radio Liberty). Maybe, after this, so active "political emigrants" are sent back - let, for example, gentlemen Rahmon and Karimov give advice on organizing religious and national policy in organizing "million" processions in Dushanbe or Tashkent ...
The rally in question, the Moscow authorities banned, which, it should be noted, caused a wave of criticism from the very "mechanics" who tried to launch the next chaos seeding scenario in a single state. Still would! The script broke ...

In this regard, returning to the words of Ramzan Kadyrov, attempts to play the national (religious) card of a certain suit in the territory of Russia are really quite drawn to a crime that is completely commensurate with terrorism. After all, one must be extremely naive to assume that the real ideologues of the same “rally against Islamophobia” cared about issues of “Islamophobia”. What concerns them more is the strengthening of Russia, its activity in the international arena, with all the consequences for the “prestige” of the so-called “democratic” states.

Obviously, the ultimate goal of all such meetings with radical nationalist notes is a blow to the integrity of the country, undermining ties built up over centuries. Is this not the same terrorism? And is it really necessary to turn a blind eye, curling favor with someone who calls himself a defender of democracy? Forgive something? .. Democracy? .. Ah, now it is called that.

Once they had already closed their eyes ... And the Ukrainian government, it seems, still rules the state with only closed eyes ...

Comments

[Canep]

It would be like who did not relate to Kadyrov, but without him now no way. Under his leadership, Chechnya became much less belligerent, and the scum from Chechnya moved to Dagestan. True, he has rather controversial methods of restoring order, but probably in the Caucasus it will not work differently.

[T80UM1]

In the Caucasus, only forceful methods are effective.

[alone]

Quote: Canep

It would be like who did not relate to Kadyrov, but without him now no way. Under his leadership, Chechnya became much less belligerent, and the scum from Chechnya moved to Dagestan. True, he has rather controversial methods of restoring order, but probably in the Caucasus it will not work differently.

Maybe because of his controversial methods, the supply of militants from the local population does not stop. Or maybe not. One Umarov has already been buried seven times, and he is still running. But one thing I know for sure. The forum users aren’t clean. it’s very beneficial that this terrorism remains a threat. Under this threat, you can well fill your own pockets.

[Shur]

"Business incubator" in the forests of the UK.

[Same lech]

in the third, their eyes turn full of blood at the mention of only the surname of the Chechen head.

Well, that is understandable given his past.

Somehow I saw him entertaining with girls of easy virtue in his youth shot by a camera by someone - sooo interesting.

But recently, he has changed a lot and changed his republic (for the better) - I will be careful in forecasts about KADYROV (TIME WILL SHOW).

[Name]

Here is the real work for the migration service and the police: to catch everyone from the Union of Political Emigrants from Central Asia, to raise houses and raise their home economy, and not to establish their own rules in RUSSIA!

[predator.3]

It is not prescribed in our law that punishment for Caucasians should be tougherthan for Siberians. We are citizens of one country and are united before the law. I will not protect all Caucasians, among them there are those who behave incorrectly. In any case, they must respect the culture of all representatives of the nationalities of Russia.

maybe it's time to write it down in the Criminal Code as a separate line, "for misbehaving Caucasians," and I have never seen one who behaves correctly, but the author was dreaming about respect for the culture of other nations by Caucasians!

[rosewik]

So far, it has only been observed that, on the contrary, the punishment for Caucasians is milder, so as not to incite ethnic hatred. While asked from above to respect the culture of the place where they came, Caucasians in vain spit on everything and calmly do whatever they wish.

[Firstvanguard]

You are actually heating up the "national question" If you have not seen this does not mean that they are not. Understand correctly, I do not protect scumbags, but scumbag is not a nationality. I had a friend in my service, an ethnically purebred Dagestani, I can’t say anything bad about him. The main surgeon of the garrison hospital was a man of Caucasian nationality, an extra class specialist who saved dozens of lives, etc. Yes, just look at our history, Mikoyan, Karapetyan, Dzhugashvili, Baghramyan, the first names that came to mind, they are not correct ???

[Sergey XXX]

Plus, there are enough scumbags everywhere. The characters on average for us (the peoples of Russia) are different, so this is the beauty of our Motherland and its wealth. The dignity of leaders such as Kadyrov in caring for their people with the understanding that together we are strength and equal, we separately become the colonial appendages of the predators surrounding us without any hope of equality. In this sense, he is a full-fledged Russian, a man of imperial thinking. So you don’t have to look for black in it - every one of us is fancy with everything, look at many other leaders, especially of liberoid coloration.

[Shur]

Uh, what did he say?

[Roman Skomorokhov]

"Our law does not stipulate that the punishment for Caucasians should be tougher than for Siberians. We are citizens of one country and are united before the law. I will not defend all Caucasians, there are those among them who behave incorrectly."

Yeah, that's only if Caucasians behave boorishly-this is hooliganism. And if the Russians begin to press Caucasians in response to rudeness, this is first inciting ethnic hatred, and then everything else.

Too many people from the Caucasus "behave wrongly." Even too much. Although I know a lot of really decent and correct people. However, there are more pompous boors.

[kris]

Really someone from adequate people will believe this criminal who personally killed Russian people.

[optimist]

Quote: kris

Really someone from adequate people will believe this criminal who personally killed Russian people.

This whole article reminds me of Leopold the cat with his naive, unctuous "Let's live together!" On the hands of a kadyrka is the blood of our soldiers. He was a bandit, a bandit and will remain, what to take from him. All questions to our "Siberian Crane", who warmed this "chick". And all the current "Kadyrovtsy" are militants who were not killed in two "Chechen" wars, who took their bearings in time and "went over" to the side of the federals. In Chechnya, the whole "world" now rests on federal money: if the money runs out, the "world" will end too ...

[dmb]

Well, they believe it (see the first comments).

[Orik]

It turns out that this "internationalist" killed the first Russian in 1992!

[calocha]

After all, we lived together for more than one century !!! And we created and achieved a lot! We can, after all. Our ancestors solved the differences of the world much wiser than us! They hamper us for 25-30 years, that we are all different, emphasize it tirelessly .. There is work ... Seed is sown evil between us. The media should be in the same hands and ... under state control !!! We need censorship!

[Theophanes]

I agree that censorship is needed and the media should be adequate, and not sow discord and hatred. Neoliberals (according to Primakov) are stranglers of everything positive in the country and instigators of the civil war according to the scenario of Ukraine. They organize such meetings under the leadership of the Washington Regional Committee. There are no at least a few decent or a little honest people among the Americans. Snowden is an exception to the rule, which the rule confirms! Amerikosy and their analolyses NATO members seek a world war and kill people around the world.

[Shur]

To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear ..

[Aubert]

According to Mr. Kadyrov, are nationalists those who speak poorly about his animals? Have they tried to act better?
For me, Caucasians, so furious with impunity, are much more dangerous for the country than similar pseudo-Nazis.

[tank64rus]

The peoples of Russia must be clear. If the West occupies Russia and the last Russian is killed, the first Chechen will be killed next. No embedding in the Western civilization of the golden billion for the peoples of Russia is simply not provided. According to the plans of the West, our peoples are deleted from the future. They are only interested in natural resources, the rest is just the ballast that needs to be disposed of.

[Shur]

Immediately there will be a massacre, these devils overseas with their own hands will not get here, the neck is thin and the little soul is flimsy .. Their favorite is to work on a "set-up". And they will warm their hands and play off the enemies .. And didn't they throw weapons and other "humanitarian medicines" into Chechnya through various "pads"? Already, already, Russian and Chechen blood has been shed .. The difference is that the Chechens poured it first under the instigation of Western and Arab friends, who relishly supplied them with money for "jihad".

[Normal]

Alexey Volodin, I do not agree with you.

To represent Ramzan Kadyrov as a statesman, a supporter of internationalism is like considering them as such, for example, the Khazars who once imposed tribute to Russia. And even that, the Khazar Khaganate was really a multinational state, and the CR is a mono-ethnic state, the population of which arranged genocide to all who are not good. And now the leader of this mono-ethnic formation teaches us, declaring the inadmissibility of (of course Russian) nationalism. Chechen nationalism is not declared, is not condemned, and is generally taken for granted.
The impudence of this instance knows no boundaries, and its phrase

Not terrorism, but the national question is dangerous for Russia.

not just an unsuccessful passage, namely imposing our will on us, divorce, in a gangster way.

Recently, no such situation has arisen in which the raised interethnic issue in a particular state would lead this state to full development.

And here the example of Chechnya suggests the exact opposite. Chechnya - blossoms, Chechnya having cut out the Russians and resolving the national question on its territory, after two wars has achieved such indemnities that it has become more beautiful than before. Of course, the management system built on infusions from Russia cannot be considered fully developed from the point of view of a Russian person, but Nokhcho is not Russian, and this situation suits them well.

Nationalism like intellectual state ideology, as a program and a guide to action, is the only way to preserve the state and the people who form it. Internationalism has outlived itself. Everywhere where the policy of internationalism and multiculturalism is carried out, the indigenous population is reduced and replaced by peoples who deny these concepts.
Further, the collapse of the state and submission to global international (supposedly, but actually Jewish) financial structures.
Even the very concept of internationalism implies the existence of independent nations.
But we (Russians) are forced to abandon national identity for the sake of mythical friendship of the people and unity with those who do not turn out to be their national identity. We are invited to dissolve in other ethnic groups, give them our territory and leave the historical scene.

There are two countries (and one people) in the world that are actively promoting the idea of ​​a non-national, multicultural way of human existence. This is the world hegemon (for the time being) of the United States, led by representatives of the "chosen by God" and their "tobacco" Great Britain.
Do the leaderships of these countries wish peace to the world?

[dmb]

Absolutely agreeing with you, Vladimir, in Kadyrov’s assessment (this is the softest thing that can be said about him without obscene language), I still think that you confuse internationalism with cosmopolitanism. Volodin is right, everyone should be equal before the law, regardless of nationality. Only in this case can Russia be saved. Internationalism gives such an opportunity, nationalism does not. No matter what nationalists will be in power, in any case they will try to put people of their nationality over others. You rightly pointed out that ideology should be intellectual. In the Chechen Republic you mention, we have nationalism in all its glory. that's just with the intellectuals somehow not really. Or do you think that we are entirely Russian intellectuals, kind and helpful people? I doubt your comments are too competent. The hoes in Kushchevka are clearly not Asians, and Yeltsin with Putin and Serdyukov are the most gay Slavs.

[Normal]

dmb

I have no desire to argue with you.
I express my opinion. I admit that I can (and this was many times) be wrong. This is revealed after the passage of time and as a result of real social processes. But in matters of nationalism, interethnic relations, internationalism and cosmopolitanism, I do not remember yet that someone was able to prove to me that I was wrong. The processes taking place in society so far confirm, as it seems to me, MY opinion. Perhaps due to my tongue-tied tongue and lack of education, I am not able to clearly, intelligibly and convincingly express my views.
I'll try differently

Internationalism - Inter (between) + nationalism = internationalism. (this word is already formed)
We remove nationalism from internationalism. I hope you will not argue that Russian nationalism is not a state ideology, and grassroots, popular and everyday Russian nationalism is persecuted and is discredited in every way by the current government.
So; internationalism minus nationalism = inter (between) that is, somewhere nowhere, neither here nor there, nowhere.
How can we not recall the mockery of the Caucasians in response to our eternal "To a strange monastery ..." - "Uh, on Maskue ustaua net - delaim chito hatym."

So, internationalism without nationalism is cosmopolitanism, or, in any case, its harbinger and beginning.

[equity]

Normal

I have been watching comments on this site for a long time, but when I saw your nonsense I decided to answer.

quote: and the CR is a mono-national state, the population of which committed genocide to all who are not good.

Firstly, the Czech Republic is not a state, but a subject of the Russian Federation where Russian laws are in force, where people live according to Russian laws, a person who violated a law is tried and imprisoned under Russian law.
Secondly, (the population of which arranged genocide for everyone) it’s your understanding that the Russians weren’t killed by terrorists but all Chechens, or do you want to say that all Chechens are terrorists, what do you allow yourself to do at all, who are you God all the people to blame people who did not commit any crime, your arrogance has no limits, you are not in your kitchen but on a public site, people from all nations come in and see your nonsense. Kadyrov, no matter who he was before, but now he is telling the truth, even in your words there is Caucasophobia- (whose population staged genocide, not the population but separately taken armed terrorists), by the way, the Kremlin was appointed to this post by Chechens.
quote: And here the example of Chechnya says the exact opposite. Chechnya is in bloom
Of course, what else can you think if your journalist comes to Grozny and not to Chechnya, looks at Grozny city and meets with Kadyrov on several central streets of Grozny as he is literally leaving and that’s why Chechnya is flourishing according to your opinion, no doesn’t thrive anyway, unfortunately, let the journalist look around the villages and look around let him ask people what they do, what they do, who works, who doesn't, until such a journalist arrives!

quote:
Of course, the management system built on infusions from Russia cannot be considered fully developed from the point of view of a Russian person, but Nokhcho is not Russian, and this situation suits them well.

Hmm, you look at Russian villages where there is no elementary order in the courtyards, and at Chechen ones, then you will say what suits whom! infusion occurs wherever there is less where more and Chechnya in this regard is not in the first place! By the way, in "prosperous" Chechnya, more than half of the people live on one pension and pay taxes from this pension, and you also need to buy something ... they thrive in one word!

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: equity

taxes are paid for this pension

It is under what law of the Russian Federation a pension is taxed?
If they pay. then to "jihad".

[equity]

airsrafter

It is under what law of the Russian Federation a pension is taxed?
If they pay. then to "jihad".

Hmm, and who told you that the pension is taxable, you didn’t understand the housing tax they pay, and as you expected from you, they expressed jihad or something else that the Chechen people already don’t know! ..

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: equity

housing tax pay

There is no such "tax" in the tax code of the Russian Federation !!!
Russian pensioners also pay utility bills from their pensions.

Quote: equity

who told you the pension is tax deductible

he told me equity

Quote: equity

more than half of people live on the same pension and pay taxes from this pension

[equity]

airsrafter

Well, you don’t understand, I’m not saying that a pension is taxed, I meant that most people no longer have family income, you know, for example, a family lives and no one works in this family because there is no work and one pensioner in this the whole family lives on his or her pension and I hope it came to you!

Quote: Russian pensioners utilities just as well from their pensions pay.

That's right, but most Russian pensioners have a family, that is, children, grandchildren do not live off their pension, but work and pay taxes themselves, so a pensioner can live on his or her pension and pay taxes if he or she lives alone, but if the family is still unemployed, then it’s already on one pension is practically impossible, "please read carefully and do not write me an answer anymore, I ask you, I am tired of answering you"! ..

[Const]

I believe that it was not a Russian citizen who came to the rally, it doesn’t matter for what reason, to give two options to choose - deportation or prison. A normal guest will not spoil. My Russia is my home. Whatever happens, we’ll figure it out ourselves.

[Terrible ensign]

The national question itself cannot be dangerous. It either exists if the state is multinational, or it does not exist if the state is mononational ... Some methods of solving it in a multinational state may be dangerous. Moreover, a fundamental non-resolution of this issue, drawn up in any possible form, will be more dangerous: silence; a statement that this issue is irrelevant for the country or that it has long been resolved.
In general, to declare a final solution to the national question is to dissemble and engage in fraud. As long as there are various nations, the national question exists. This is firstly! ..
Secondly, there are two main ways to solve the national question.
Relatively speaking, "American" and "Soviet" (or Stalin's in a truncated form, since his plan for complete federalization was never fully implemented on the territory of the USSR).
American implies the complete assimilation or even the impossibility of the existence of national entities within the state (a separate state or the entire United States as a whole), only cultural autonomy, or even already - national self-identification within cultural communities such as the "club of Italian opera lovers" or "society of Irish jig fans ".
Soviet ("truncated Stalinist") meant not only full cultural autonomy, but also the existence of national-state formations as part of a sovereign multinational state. Moreover, it was believed that the entire Soviet people (without division into nations) should act as sovereign (bearer of sovereignty). The formation of the supranational community "Soviet people" was a matter of time. We all missed it. 70 years were not enough. Due to the fact that since the death of Stalin and the coming to power of a clique of revisionists like Khrushchev (and others like him), the state policy in this regard has not developed at all.
Under the condition of normal, progressive development of the country over a very long period of time, national differences should have been eroded.
I am not a Stalinist. Moreover, the excesses associated with mass deportations and political processes such as the case of "cosmopolitans" make me indignant. The formation of a supranational community is possible if a complex of ideological tasks is solved, including the issues of polyconfessionalism (faith and freedom of conscience), and, above all, basic economic problems.
In addition to competition as a way to survive in an unfriendly environment, there is such a way as cooperation, the union of interested members of the community.
In relation to RUSSIA, the solution of the national question is linked precisely with the solution of ideological, economic, and other major political issues, provided that there is a mandatory absence of any connection with liberalism and its various theories (since this leads to chaos and death).
But nobody should be guided by R. Kadyrov and similar political conjuncturers (if not tougher), including comrade. Alexey Volodin.

[Rinat 1]

Russia needs to rally and stop soaking up with nationalism. Ukraine is a living example that nationalism will not lead to anything good.

[Terrible ensign]

The ideology of liberalism, which currently occupies a dominant position in the trend of world political studies, is undergoing a crisis and is absolutely contrary to the progressive development of mankind. An example is the crisis and stagnation of the EU. It is impossible to unite to solve global economic projects, humanitarian problems, and issues of human survival, putting the interests of individuals, narrow groups and communities at the forefront, which is what liberalism itself is.
When it finally reaches the overwhelming number of survivors in our common madhouse called modern civilization, the situation will begin to change for the better.
At the same time, Russia, Belarus, m. Kazakhstan also has a more advantageous position in comparison with other participants in the international process. Since they are integrated in the interests of their development.
On the example of Ukraine, there is a complete rollback and defragmentation of ideology to the phase of militant nationalism. And nationalism is only one of the first steps in the development of any state that wants to reach certain heights.
Domestic nationalism is the essence of the disease of underdevelopment, poverty and political narrow-mindedness.

[Cpa]

The ideology of liberalism has the right to live only with a high level of morality of the population. Otherwise, this is how to entrust a kindergartener to drive a car. Since for many, universal morality is utopia (hidden phobia), liberalism acquires an animal face.

[Orik]

They found a "guru", he killed our Russian soldiers in the first Chechen war, and he killed the first Russian when there was no war in the project, these are his words. It's disgusting.

[Terrible ensign]

Who minus? Try to objectively argue - strain gyrus! ..
I repeat:
1. Nationalism - for the Untermensch;
2. I don't care about the nationality of a cattle who runs into normal, common people - "on the scoreboard to any greyhound cormorant ...";
3. Kadyrov is neither a decree nor an indicator of the situation on the national question - he is only a passing figure who was able to play his political role at a certain moment;
4. Everyone is responsible for their deeds and words (sooner or later) ...

[Shur]

Yes, how smart you are, I look. Come to RT and "hit the scoreboard" if you have time. Tatars are the second largest nationality, sea nationalism. Is this "Untermensch"? Nationalists don't care what you don't care about. When about thirty "activists" with objects of suggestion come to the ground, we will look at the "drum". I somehow stood in such a mug, then everything worked out, but somehow it was unpleasant from the fact that they poked a little with an awl. Yes, since the 90s they have quieted down here, but this does not mean that they are not there. Losing their impulses have awakened to the true faith. And latent Russophobia is creeping into itself ..

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

According to the import of nashon, nationalism in principle, Russia, in the broad sense, was a multinational state and this was the key to the existence of the country, and national relations in any area of ​​this territory did not interfere with the existence of the state, but when, for example, representatives of Dagestan begin to establish their own in Vyshny Volochyok customs and at the same time everything is done with the use of force, it’s not right to put it mildly, and because someone pushes this diaspora to rallies and other events, I think I don’t like how people live here, go home and live as you like, respect for traditions and faith, this is the guarantee of the unity of the country.

[enema]

Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey

According to the import of nashon, nationalism in principle, Russia, in the broad sense, was a multinational state and this was the key to the existence of the country, and national relations in any area of ​​this territory did not interfere with the existence of the state, but when, for example, representatives of Dagestan begin to establish their own in Vyshny Volochyok customs and at the same time everything is done with the use of force, it’s not right to put it mildly, and because someone pushes this diaspora to rallies and other events, I think I don’t like how people live here, go home and live as you like, respect for traditions and faith, this is the guarantee of the unity of the country.

Is Russia a multinational state or is it just a myth?

[Shur]

So you will think, because in the Russian Empire all representatives of minorities were called "foreigners".

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

So Russians were called not Russians, but that in this word offensive people of a different kind, the Russians have their own kind, the Dagestanis their own, we are also foreigners for them, but the country is one.

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

Myth? Excuse me, where did you come from, not from America by chance?

[Wolf]

Eating the old-fashioned way to fight the enemy! Divide the enemy into a group and then oppose them among themselves! Latin word NATIO (natio) roughly means a colleague! It says somewhere in the 10th century in the cuisine of the Vatican (Catholic Church). In fact, the nation is an artificial category and way of fighting the Slavs. Divide and destroy! Rumuni su Slaveni (they began to pose for the Latin people in the 18th century, their hezik Vulgarno Latinsky invented - there isn’t that Nosiots NARODA Vulgaro Latina!), Like Hungary, it is similar to history. Belarus, Ukrainians (Okraintsi) Russi (Rus) in fact, ONE 1 people artificially created by the Nazis as enemies Slavens, etc. Fashiva history is the foundation of the deception Slaven brothers!

[Shur]

That's just it. Alexander is broadcasting, but he lives in Israel, with his own .. It is certainly more pleasant to broadcast from there. We did not start this "booze" of sovereignties, but now we ourselves are at a broken trough. It was necessary, like the Chinese, to create the Qing empire, i.e. all nat. into the furnace and all the "Chinese". But these are not our methods.

[enema]

The mono-ethnic is considered to be where 2/3 of the population or more belong to the same ethnic group. In Russia, Russian -80%. Any questions?

[Shur]

Duck and what did it give us? The country is populated by some Russians ... I am not against the Russians, but how would I like to understand what our status is? In reality, the Russian Federation is some kind of confederation. After all, here those and the presidents are in a heap of constitutions and the parade is straight ... But do we need it? In the Republic of Tatarstan, soon the Russian language will be generally at home, or optionally studied, etc. There is no equality however.

[Al_lexx]

Media ... Kadyrov ...
Be sick.
How much can you PR all IT?

[Crang]

Author - Kadyrov understood everything correctly. All but you unfortunately. If you do not understand, I explain why he made such a statement. Of course, not because she cares a lot about the fate of Russia. It’s just that recently the Russian people have ceased to tolerate the lawlessness and bullying of Caucasians in their cities and villages. The people are gathering and rallying in order to protect themselves, their children and wives, their traditions and orders from barbarians who are absolutely alien to us in the cultural and civilizational plan. Selling police people do not protect and people forced defend myself. A clear confirmation of this is the events in Biryulyovo, where one little animal, for no reason at all, stabbed a young guy. This is what the Chechens, and in particular Kadyrov, do not like. Its goal is to ensure that Caucasians arriving on the primordially Russian lands of the Russian Federation could calmly cut and kill Russians, rape their girls, brazenly drag them into a car and take away mothers right in front of their children (it is difficult to even imagine what is happening at this moment in the child's head - this is a ready-made scumbag, full of his head). And so that the indigenous population of these areas (Russians) would tolerate it and "not grumble." And they will try to get together, organize themselves and go to jail as participants in a "nationalist" march. Well, there are also the governors of these regions. Of course, first of all, in this situation, it is necessary to put him in prison and those who come from these republics:
- They came to deal with the Russian even three or five - a national group, a nationalist march.
- a monument where Chechens killed Russians - national strife.
- killings of Russian soldiers - national strife.
- joint photos with the killers of Russian guys - national strife.
- Beating and insulting Russian football players and referees - national strife.
But you understand everything - our just government and the "most influential person" in the world have already clearly explained to you - this is all petty hooliganism. So small that you don't even need to pay attention to it. But if a Russian guy dared to protect his girlfriend from fanatics, this is national strife. They have such traditions that need to be respected. Do you understand why and why Kadyrov made this statement Volodin Alexey?
The only thing that pleases me in this situation is that this "power" is not eternal. There is also Vladimir Ilyich in his mausoleum and missiles of the RS-20 "Satan" type in his pits. They wait silently. Resting in their pits, they are waiting in the wings. And he will come. Anyone who presses the button with great pleasure will become great, and these wonderful cars will fly to restore justice long trampled by non-humans. And they will restore it.

[equity]

Kreng

quote: The people are gathering and rallying to protect themselves, their children and wives, their traditions and orders from barbarians who are absolutely alien to us in the cultural and civilization plan. Selling police people do not protect and people are forced to defend themselves. A clear confirmation of this is the events in Biryulyovo, where one little animal, for no reason at all, slaughtered a young guy. This is what the Chechens do not like

How do you know what the Chechens like and what don’t, do you think when this Zeynalov killed this guy, the Chechens were delighted or something, they arranged a holiday in honor of this event? Chechens despise people like Zeynals of any nationality, I’m talking about ordinary people, when you talk about something, be careful in your statements that barbarians commit crimes, don’t hang labels on all, I saw and see cultural and non-cultural-civilized and not civilized Russians in full, so do not need all under one comb! And Chechens and Caucasians lived and will live in any cities in Russia where they want it like that, whether you like it or not, you just need to punish the hooligans and bandits according to the law, and I repeat to those people who have nothing to do with it in the North Caucasus or in central Russia Do not hang labels!

[Cpa]

Quote: equity

Both Chechens and Caucasians lived and will live in any cities of Russia where they want like this, whether you like it or not,

And then the Russians will live wherever they want, too, I like the Arkhyz valley.

[equity]

Cpa

Quote: And then the Russians will also live wherever they want, I like Arkhyz valley.

Well, who is against it, go there and live as much as you like!

[Crang]

Well, are you kidding? Well honestly? Russians are already fleeing from the Stavropol Territory. Soon there will also be no Russians left. There, where a significant number of Caucasians come, Russians simply run from that place. Everyone sells and leaves.

[equity]

Kreng

No, I’m not kidding why they’re running. It’s interesting where I and my friends, my friends, who don’t run, if someone behaves like a mad animal somewhere, that people are already running from them, such people need to be punished there is no police or something. order, if not, then you need to just mad to shoot like mad dogs, what else can I say!

[Crang]

You are wrong dear.

Quote: equity

How do you know what the Chechens like and what not

They themselves said this in plain text, and more than once.

Quote: equity

were the Chechens delighted, did they have a celebration in honor of this event?

Maybe they did, or maybe not. But quietly rejoiced for sure. Why is there a law banning the extradition of bodies of terrorists? Well, at least because they are buried in their native villages (or wherever) with all honors as heroes.

Quote: equity

Both Chechens and Caucasians lived and will live in any cities of Russia where they want like this, whether you like it or not.

This is until the power is changed. The Chechens drove out all the Russians, and at the moment there are practically no Russians left in Chechnya. Is this a fact or will you argue? "Don't buy apartments from Masha, they will still be ours" - have you ever heard such a saying? Monuments of all kinds to the murders of Russian soldiers. If Chechens can do this, why should someone tolerate them at home?

Quote: equity

you just need to punish the hooligans and bandits according to the law, and I repeat the labels not to hang on those people who have nothing to do with them in the North Caucasus or in central Russia

And no one hangs. Have you ever seen that someone would have at least once just for no reason put a "label" on someone? The Caucasus hung it on itself. By yourself. By their actions, words, intentions. Do not be hypocritical, do not try to refute the obvious. Everything is clear and understandable for a long time. And these pitiful attempts to justify - only enhance the real image.

Quote: equity

barbarians who commit a crime

Exactly and where did I go wrong? By the way, remind - how many people from the Caucasus from the period from 1991 to 2013 were convicted under the article "ethnic strife"? How much, how much?

[equity]

Kreng

Quote: They themselves said this directly and more than once.

And then you too are telling them exactly, please take off and understand!

Quote: Maybe they arranged, but maybe not. But quietly rejoiced for sure. Why did the law banning the extradition of bodies of terrorists come out? Well, at least because they are buried in their native villages (or wherever) with all honors as heroes.

Are you sick that you want to impose your thoughts here delusional, no, they didn’t arrange and didn’t rejoice exactly why the law came out I don’t know, I’m not a politician or lawmaker, where are they buried with the honors of terrorists? Now it’s from you, if you want this to be so, it doesn’t mean that it is so, it’s just your desire to plant Caucasians to people like you I already noticed it doesn’t matter if they have one goal or not (Caucasian means bad all) but you are mistaken people are different!

Quote: This is until the power is changed. The Chechens drove out all the Russians, and at the moment there are practically no Russians left in Chechnya. Is this a fact or will you argue? "Don't buy apartments from Masha, they will still be ours" - have you ever heard such a saying? Monuments of all kinds to the murders of Russian soldiers. If Chechens can do this, why should someone tolerate them at home?

Let's see what will happen when the government changes, I think there will be fewer or no such people "accusing everyone in a row" like you. And people like Nemtsov and others like you do not take off when they do not come to power, and people like you, too, but if God forbid, the great big and strong Russia will turn into a puppet six!
It was not the Chechens who drove out the Russians, but the armed groups of terrorists, the fact is that now no one is driving these remaining Russians out and they are not taking anything away from them; they live quietly like everyone else in Chechnya with their own worries and problems, because now there are no terrorists in Chechnya. that somewhere in the mountains in the woods running around the remains do not know. Chechens and Caucasians lived in Russia and under the USSR and now they live and will live in the future whether you like it or not, "don't you like it? Well, bang your head against the wall may feel better" I'm not to blame!

quote: "Do not buy apartments from Masha, they will still be ours" - have you ever heard such a saying?

Well, why did I hear, but only on the Internet from people like you, but I never heard from Chechens, it’s probably the same terrorists who said at that time, and I didn’t have terrorists when I had this heard.

Quote: Monuments all sorts of killings of Russian soldiers.

Where such monuments I have no idea.

Quote: If Chechens can do this, why should someone endure them at home?

May God or Allah give me strength to endure you on this site, it hurts you ... that person, fortunately in my life I do not meet such people ...

Quote: And no one hangs. Have you ever seen that someone would have at least once just for no reason put a "label" on someone? The Caucasus hung it on itself. By yourself. By their actions, words, intentions. Do not be hypocritical, do not try to refute the obvious. Everything is clear and understandable for a long time. And these pitiful attempts to justify - only enhance the real image.

I’ve seen more than once, for example, you’re trying to hang up labels here, the Caucasus hasn’t hung anything on yourself, it’s like you’re trying to hang someone’s sins on all Caucasians, as much as you can if a group or a person does something in Russia let these people be punished in accordance with local laws, and if the law does not work it is not the whole Caucasus to blame!

It’s just you who are hypocritical here with your words and intentions trying to blame all the people for someone’s sins, with you and everyone like you it’s been clear for a long time, these are pathetic attempts, trying hard to blame even me who is not guilty of anything, I just laid out the truth here and that’s it!

[Crang]

Quote: equity

Are you sick that you want to impose your thoughts here delusional, no, they didn’t arrange and didn’t rejoice exactly why the law came out I don’t know, I’m not a politician or lawmaker, where are they buried with the honors of terrorists? now from you

Well, of course not heard. You point blank in the TRUTH, but you will not see. You see only that which corresponds to your delusional theory of tolerance. If there are facts contradicting it, the worse for the facts.

Quote: Krang

it's just your wish

I didn’t talk about it anywhere. Wow accusations!

Quote: Krang

Let's see what will happen when the government changes, I think there will be fewer or no such people "accusing everyone in a row" like you.

But poznarov / nightingale and others like them (like you) will definitely not be.

Quote: equity

and people like you too, and if God forbid, then the great big and strong Russia will turn into a puppet six!

She was big and strong 30 years ago. Now it is a weak state, rotted from the inside, where the rights and freedoms of the titular nation are trampled upon in the most arrogant manner. Thanks to people like you.

Quote: equity

It was not the Chechens who kicked out the Russians, but the armed groups of terrorists

Forced to disagree. According to our captured soldiers, who were kept in the basements of private houses, in addition to the militants, the women and children of these houses were not only aware of the fact that people illegally deprived of their liberty were illegally detained in their house, but they themselves were directly involved in bullying them. In general, these people break the law every day and this is a completely common thing for them.

Quote: equity

Chechens and Caucasians lived in Russia and the USSR

Lived yes. And there were always problems with them. Russians have no problems with Tatars, Udmurts, Tuvans. Yes, with no one at all. We love and respect everyone. Besides. EXCEPT .... You yourself know who. And who is to blame? Tell that it would be clear to whoever is following the discussion who you are and what you are.

[equity]

Kreng

Quote: She was big and strong 30 years ago. Now it is a weak state, rotted from the inside, where the rights and freedoms of the titular nation are trampled upon in the most arrogant manner. Thanks to people like you.

Well, you see mushrooms you are blaming everyone, at the moment, and me too (thanks to people like you)! By the way, I didn’t respect Pozner and can’t stand it, and Solovyov sometimes tells the truth, I agree with him in some of his opinions.

[Crang]

Quote: equity

quote: "Do not buy apartments from Masha, they will still be ours" - have you ever heard such a saying?
Well, why did I hear, but only on the Internet from people like you, but from the Chechens I have never heard such a thing,

Well, of course I have not heard. This is to be fools Russian themselves invented it so? Well, I will continue your logic well. The young and beautiful girl Goliya Borisenko, who was abducted by Caucasians in Arkhangelsk, who was raped, beaten, tortured with an iron and injected with drugs for half a year, SAMA beat her head against the wall, SAMA tortured herself, and SAMA raped herself. The only thing she did in this case herself - she jumped out of a window unable to bear bullying. We go further - the headless soldiers themselves cut off their heads and Caucasians have nothing to do with it. All raped and beaten / killed themselves beat their heads on the asphalt, themselves jumped on knives. And in general they were freaks / alcoholics / homeless people. Russian people, you don’t understand anything. They are all THEmselves, and the Caucasians are just wonderful, sensitive and peaceful guys. I hopefully developed your thought.

Quote: equity

and now they live and will live in the future whether you like it or not, "don't like it? Well, bang your head against the wall, it may feel better" I'm not guilty!

So you decide how and what to be? Do you think you have already won? I have to disappoint you. The situation in a democratic country should develop as most people like it, and not as you want. You seem delusions of grandeur my friend. Well, nothing will pass.

Quote: equity

Quote: Monuments all sorts of killings of Russian soldiers.
Where such monuments I have no idea.

And here again he "has no idea." Well:
Kadyrov unveiled a monument to women - heroes of the war with Russia
http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1246463/
Read, but still not see? However selective your hearing and vision.

Quote: equity

now no one expels and they don’t take anything away from them, they live in peace for themselves like everyone in Chechnya with their concerns and problems

They are no longer there. And our military at the moment there control only the territory of their own military bases. It is not recommended to go to the city one at a time. So it is in Dagestan. No, of course, if you go, maybe nothing will happen, but it is not recommended.

Quote: equity

as much as possible if some group or some kind of person does something in Russia, let these people be punished in accordance with local laws

What laws? With the locals? Well, according to local laws, robbery / beating / murder and violence against Russians is valor. They reward, not punish. Yes, and you do not have the right math - do not fool people with their heads. If one is normal out of a hundred, then this is not a reason to call everyone normal.

Quote: equity

It’s just you here who are hypocritical with your words and intentions trying to blame the whole people for someone’s sins

I'm not trying anything. What arrogant accusations? And whose sins? Explain - whose sins? Waiting for an answer.

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Kreng

Quote: Explain - in whose sins? Waiting for an answer.

As in whose sins! in the sins of those who commit a crime, such as you are trying to impose them on those people who have not committed any crime!

Quote: Tell that to the one who is following the discussion it becomes clear who you are and what you are.

You know who you are and what you are here can be easily understood by all those who follow, citing your words as an example in just a small line in the previous comment (quote: But they were secretly happy for sure.) Hmm, after reading this line, I immediately understood what you are! .. Good "dear" ...!

[equity]

Kreng
Quote: That's exactly where I was wrong?

Where you try to hang labels in a row at all there and are mistaken accordingly!

[Bakht]

Not him to crucify about the good of Russia.

[Bakht]

Who gives the title of Hero of Russia?

[Savva30]

Auto RU. Interethnic conflicts in the state begin with the chaos of the southern hot guys, and end with the inaction of corrupt officials, security officials and songs about tolerance ...

[rezident]

Yes, nothing in general. He tries for his teip then for Chechnya, the rest is sideways to him.

[Cpa]

Everyday nationalism is based on fear, they will not be afraid, they will not suffer with nonsense. And since the titular nation of Russia was scared the most, all sorts of scammers, "your problems", "I need it", "and who are you?" ruling the ball among Russians. Small peoples stick together, the whole village gathers for someone to study, help build houses, etc. We also used to be like that, but now there are many of us, but we are all alone, family at most. HOMO HOMiNi LUPUS EST is an expression alien to us, where it came from, let it go there. The Russian people have reached the point where you need to either realize what is happening or disappear. Fear will go away, nationalism will not be needed. After all, this fear carries a simple message: "... one , and there are a lot of them, if everyone does not care, then they can bend .. "If it does not come out to realize, then all that remains is to force them to unite, on the basis of foremen, centurions, governors and elders, but not against someone, but in the name of good, order and mutual assistance. Then any old man, any kid will approach the boor boldly and say: “Don't do that!” And they will listen to him, and everyone will be calm, there will be strollers and big in the entrances, the houses will not be locked, the children will walk calmly and all Russians will be respected.

[Sergey XXX]

Wonderful ... the one whom many commentators call the enemy expressed practical for Russia, and those who called expressed everything destructive for Russia. In general, I personally see the problem of nationalism in the fact that, according to the laws of psychology, a representative of any nationality, if not afraid, is alarmed by a person of another nationality, because he is not understandable, another, which automatically provokes a protective mental reaction in the form of aggressiveness. This is a natural and well-known fact in psychology. It is possible to neutralize all this by education and propaganda, which, judging by the results, was not done enough in the USSR, but now it is generally done right on the back (the implemented liberoid philosophy is each for itself). The strictness of laws for all should naturally be equal, but the more civilized part of Russia, at least in their judgments and discussions, should not forget that we all, the peoples of Russia, have traveled a very different historical path, and among us there are a lot of peoples that were still in the early 20th century lived in the conditions of the Stone Age with appropriate morality (I do not mean specifically Chechens). Be imperial condescending, we leave the nationalism to the Baltic states ... :-)).

[Crang]

Quote: Sergey XXX

a very different historical path has passed, and among us there are a lot of peoples who lived in the conditions of the Stone Age with appropriate morals and morality at the beginning of the 20th century (I do not specifically mean Chechens). Be imperial condescending, we leave the nationalism to the Baltic states ... :-)).

So when these guys from the Stone Age raped your wife, here you will be a wise guy by imperial condescension to them. And I personally will fight for it.

[equity]

Here it’s already interesting my koment has been deleted and it’s not there, although the words and the saying were the same, almost strange!