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Cossack genocide

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Cossack genocide

95 years ago, the Sverdlov directive on the genocide of the Cossacks was issued. Although initially in the winter 1918 - 1919. many believed that the days of the Bolsheviks were numbered. The World War ended, the armies of the Entente were freed. Her squadron entered the Black and Baltic Seas, the French landed in Odessa and Sevastopol, the British in Baku and Batumi. Representatives of the Entente promised to Denikin and Krasnov that troops would soon arrive to them, weaponoutfit But ... in fact, none of this followed.


Western governments did not intend to save Russia. Lloyd George openly stated in the English Parliament: “The expediency of assisting Admiral Kolchak and General Denikin is all the more debatable because they are fighting for a united Russia. It’s not for me to indicate whether this slogan is in line with the policy of Great Britain. ” No, it seemed more appropriate to fan the civil war and dismember our country. Entente powers flirted with the Ukrainian, Polish, Baltic, Caucasian nationalists. And the intervention was limited to port cities. Deep into Russia, the British and French contingents did not move.

The Soviet leadership was able to freely concentrate its forces against the White Guards. The situation is especially alarming on the Don. The departure of the Germans from Ukraine opened Cossack lands from the west. The front line increased by 600 km. The Don army covered the four red armies with a total number of 124 thousand bayonets and sabers from various sides. The Cossacks had 38 thousand in formation. Now they had to stretch the front, plug holes. The winter was harsh, the blizzards were filled with shallow trenches. Typhus was added, the Cossacks mowed worse than bullets and shells. They held out their last strength. Most of them fought already with 1914 of the year. They are very tired. Over and over again reflected the Soviet offensive. But the Bolsheviks reformed and threw new divisions at the Don, and there was no one to change the Cossacks.

Looming disaster. Ataman Krasnov turned to Denikin, sent an embassy to Romania - to the headquarters of the Entente, asked for help. Troops of volunteers arrived from Denikin, but small ones — the Reds also launched an offensive in the North Caucasus. General Poult came from the British to Don, captains Fuke and Bertello from the French. Krasnov prayed to send weapons and military contingents. Not even to the front - but to place them in the rear cities, to cover the Don from the Donbass side.

Poole, who previously commanded the expeditionary corps in Arkhangelsk and understood Russian affairs, agreed that emergency assistance was required. He sent an order to the British brigade located there in Batumi to urgently relocate to the Don. Wired to London, asking to expedite the sending of transports with weapons. And he went to England to personally bother about the support of the Don. In turn, Fuke and Bertello promised that French troops from Odessa would march on Kharkov, distract the Reds.

However, Pull in London was removed from his post. He was told frankly that England needed the friends of England, not Russia. The Batumi brigade did not even have time to sink into the ships, the order was canceled. In the meantime Krasnov persuaded the Cossacks to hold out a little more. Encouraged fast help. When a group of French and English officers arrived in Taganrog - just out of curiosity, the ataman invited them to be guests, drove through the villages: here, they say, allies are already here! At banquets, drunken foreigners were not shy about promises. Cossacks believed, inspired.

But ... instead of helping up on the Don, the French captain Fuke came again with “extraordinary powers” ​​from the commander-in-chief, Franchet d'Esprey, and suddenly began to make demands that the Cossack Army recognize France’s “supreme power” militarily, politically, administratively and internally. . To the ataman, from now on, acted only “with the knowledge of Captain Fuke.” Krasnov and the Don government were stunned. Like this? Recognize the power of France over themselves and submit to some kind of captain? They answered that they could not accept such requirements. However, no help from the French even smelled.

And the Cossacks were cold, lousy and died in positions. Rumors spread — deception ... treason ... Krasnov was no longer believed. At first, he convinced that the Germans would help, take under the auspices, then painted how the British with the French would protect. It turned out - a lie. Bolsheviks took advantage. Their agitators instilled: “We do not touch yours, and you do not touch us. Go home. You are on your own, we are on our own. ” They explained: “The Red Guard used to be outraged by Don, but now everything is completely different. Now the Red Army has discipline in it. ”

At Christmas, on the northern section of the 28 of the Upper Don, Kazan and Migulinsky regiments threw the front and went home. Meet the holiday. And on the feast itself, Trotsky’s agents appeared in the villages with bundles of “Nikolaev” money, vodka was exposed with buckets (printing machines were put at the disposal of the Bolsheviks at the Mint, but in the “white” territories tsarist money was quoted highly, considered “real”). Only Veshenskaya to treat the villagers 15 thousand rubles were lent. Razuzhlyavshis, the Cossacks at the gatherings recognized Soviet power. Following this, in the neighboring Khopersky district, the regiments began to leave positions. Here, from the side of the Reds, the corps of the Cossack Mironov acted. He was “his” for the Donors, many with weapons went over to him. There was a gap in the front where the Soviet troops moved. Cossacks met them with bread and salt ...

However, instead of the long-awaited reconciliation, a nightmare struck. All data suggests that he prepared in advance. Back in October, the People's Commissar for Military and Maritime Affairs, 1918, Trotsky created special bodies, Revvoentribunaly. They did not have any legal proceedings, even simplified ones. It was punitive detachments, personally subordinate to Trotsky. They focused on Don in advance. But they were waiting for the right moment when the Cossacks would open the front. Otherwise, would they have allowed the Bolsheviks to their lands?

Now it has become “possible.” Cossack red commander Mironov Trotsky suddenly transferred to the Western Front, to Belarus. In order not to interfere. And the Cossack regiments, who had gone over to the side of the Reds, were driven into echelons and sent to the Urals. In mid-January, a meeting of the leaders of the political leaders of the fronts was held in Moscow. Sverdlov spent it. Obviously, just at this meeting the details of the upcoming action were clarified. And on January 24, 1919 was issued a circular directive of the Organizing Bureau of the Central Committee signed by Sverdlov. It indicated:

“Recent events on various fronts and in the Cossack regions, our advancements into the depths of the Cossack troops force us to give instructions to party workers about the nature of their work in these areas. It is necessary, taking into account the experience of the civil war with the Cossacks, to recognize as the only right the most relentless struggle with all the leaders of the Cossacks by means of their total extermination.

1. To conduct mass terror against the rich Cossacks, exterminating them without exception, to conduct a merciless mass terror to all Cossacks in general, who took any direct or indirect part in the struggle against Soviet power. It is necessary to apply all measures to the average Cossacks, which give a guarantee against any attempts on his part to new demonstrations against the Soviet power.

2. To confiscate bread and force all surplus to be poured into the indicated points, this applies both to bread and to all other agricultural products ... ”It was also prescribed to“ carry out ... in a hurry order the actual measures for the mass relocation of the poor to Cossack lands ”.

We emphasize several features. There was no Organizing Bureau of the Central Committee at that time! This was the second name of the Secretariat, personnel and clerical body under the Central Committee. Solve political issues he had no right. But the directive of the Secretariat (that is, Sverdlov) was issued on behalf of the entire Central Committee! It said: “The Central Committee decides ...”! Even from the point of view of Bolshevik “legality,” the document was more than doubtful. However, the campaign was already prepared, the directive gave it a start.

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Republic, Vatsetis, wrote about Cossacks: “This is a kind of zoological environment, and nothing more. The hundred million Russian proletariat, even from the point of view of morality, does not here have the right to any generosity. The cleansing flame must pass through the whole Don, and all of them bring fear and almost religious horror. The old Cossacks should be burned in the flames of a social revolution ... Let their last remnants, like evangelical pigs, be thrown into the Black Sea ... ”Trotsky coined the term“ to arrange Carthage ”for the Cossacks.

A member of the Donrevkoma Reinhold reported to Lenin: “We challenged the Cossacks, starting their mass extermination. This was called raskazachivaniem; with this we hoped to improve the Don, to make it, if not Soviet, then submissive and obedient to the Soviet power ... Undoubtedly, our principled view of the Cossacks, as an element alien to communism and the Soviet idea, is correct. The Cossacks, at least a huge part of them, will have to be destroyed sooner or later, simply physically destroyed ... ”

The very word "Cossack", wearing the traditional form was forbidden. For violation - shooting. The villages were renamed in the parish, farms - in the village. Part of the Don lands was divided into the Voronezh and Saratov provinces, subject to settlement by the peasants. At the head of the villages were commissioners, usually from “foreigners” - Jews, Germans, Hungarians. Cossacks seized any weapon, they imposed a large contribution. They took food and livestock, essentially condemning people to starvation.

Immediately rolled and reprisals. Terror to the Cossacks who participated in the fight against the Soviet government? And who did not accept if there was a general mobilization on the Don from 19 to 52 years? If someone disappeared or retreated with the whites, they executed the family. “Remove” gendarmes? They grabbed the old people who served with the king in 1905. Somewhere, they began to liberate land for immigrant peasants. Cossacks drove into the winter steppe. To ruin.

Mikhail Alexandrovich Sholokhov spoke eloquently about what was happening on the Don in his novel. In 1931, he wrote to Gorky: “Not exaggerating colors, I painted the harsh reality that preceded the uprising, and deliberately missed the facts that served as the direct cause of the uprising, for example, extrajudicial execution in Migulinsk 62 of old Cossacks or shootings in Kazan and Shumilino, where the number of people shot in 6 days have reached over 400 people. ”

Eyewitnesses said: “Death sentences fell in batches. Executions were often carried out during the day in front of the entire village of 30 - 40 people immediately, and those convicted with mockery, whooping and shouting led to the place of execution. On the spot of execution the convicts were stripped naked, and all this was in front of the inhabitants. Women who covered their nakedness with their hands were bullied and forbidden to do it. ” “Lawless requisitions and confiscations need to be kept in the hundreds of thousands. The population moaned from violence and abuse. There is no farm and village, which would not consider their victims of the Red Terror to be tens and hundreds. Don was numb with horror ... ”

In Uryupinskaya executed by 60 - 80 people per day. In the Veshensky Cathedral a shameful "wedding" of an 80-year-old priest with a mare was staged. In Bokovsky, the commissar killed those who drew his attention to him for the sake of entertainment. In Morozovsky, Commissioner Boguslavsky also killed people himself. Later 50 found buried corpses in his yard, and 150 - men, women, children - behind the village. Many of them were slaughtered, bore traces of torture, rape. Yakir took direct part in the massacres, contained his own punitive detachment of 530 Chinese (destroyed 8 thousand. People) Another political worker, Rosalia Zalkind (Zemlyachka), who was present at the executions, became famous for sadism.

But it was difficult to kill all the Cossacks, and other measures were envisaged along with the executions. A member of the RVS, Sokolnikov (Brilliant), demanded that the Cossacks be sent to hard labor and ordered “to start building and equipping concentration camps immediately”. His colleague, Syrtsov, telegraphed to Veshenskaya: “Prepare step-by-step points for sending you to forced labor in Voronezh gubernia, Pavlovsk and other places of the entire male population from the age from 18 to 55 inclusively ... Shoot five for each escaped.”

But if the genocide on the Don is less known to us through the pages of the “Quiet Don”, then we must take into account - it was carried out in all the Cossack regions. On the Terek, a massacre was staged even earlier, in October-November, 1918 was incited by the "revolutionary" highlanders to cut the Cossacks. A friend of Sverdlov, Shaya Goloshchekin, sold out in the Urals. Subsequently, the ombudsman from Moscow, Ruzheinikov, who arrived in Uralsk specifically to correct the “excesses”, released thousands of Cossacks as innocently arrested from prisons. And how many are not released, considered arrested legally? And how much was already lying in the ground? After all, they didn’t keep long in prisons, the conveyors of death operated uninterruptedly. The genocide fell on the Orenburg and Astrakhan Cossacks. Even on the Cossack units who fought on the side of the Reds! When Denikin defeated the 2 Soviet army in winter battles, the only combat-ready unit that retreated in order was Kochubey's Kuban brigade. In Astrakhan, it was disarmed under the pretext of “anarchy,” many were arrested. Kochubey wanted to shoot, he fled to the steppe and died.

From the point of view of ordinary logic (even the logic of “class struggle”), the campaign of genocide was irrational. Just as irrational as regicide, as the extermination of the Russian intelligentsia in the meat grinder of the “red terror” in the autumn of 1918. After all, it was not about suppressing resistance, not about punishing opponents! On the contrary, the massacre fell upon those Cossacks who had already recognized the Soviet power. They could provide logistical support for the red units fighting against Denikin and Kolchak. And one of the Cossacks was ready to fight on the side of the Reds ... For what reason and for what reason was it decided to exterminate them? Some hacks, trying to explain this, even came up with a legend - they say, the young Yasha Sverdlov in 1905 was caught by the Cossacks and wanted to hang, so Sverdlov and harbored hatred for them. Although such a case has never happened. And in fact, the mere hatred of Yakov Mikhailovich would not be enough. The genocide was organized by his many associates and assistants.

No, the background was deeper. For projects to build a "bright future," the Cossacks seemed inappropriate material. They strictly and carefully kept the tradition. They at one time formed Russia, and the belt of the Cossack Troops at the borders seemed to fasten our state. But, according to Sverdlov and Trotsky, the Russian people were supposed to be impersonal and fool. Turn into wordless slaves in the agricultural "communes" and "labor armies." Yes, and Russia itself should be put on the kindling in the flames of the “world revolution”. Cossacks in such schemes did not fit. It would inevitably be a stumbling block in the path of these plans.

On top of that, the Cossacks traditionally called and recognized themselves as “Christ soldiers”. Called not by mobilization, but by the Lord himself. A Cossack is a warrior always, regardless of whether he is on the real, in the reserve or on the civilian. His service is from birth to death. Service to the Fatherland. Even those Cossacks, who took the side of the Reds, invented a special "Cossack Bolshevism" for themselves. They hoped to save their habitual way of life (except for the redistribution of the earth), they did not renounce Belief in God. In general, wherever you look, they turned out to be enemies not only for Lev Davidovich and Yakov Mikhailovich, but also for their foreign masters. For the circles of the international financial and political "backstage", organized and supported the destruction of Russia. It was this goal that united the heterogeneous parts of the operation - the killing of the king, the rout of the Church, the destruction of the national Russian culture. It is this logic that the extermination of the Cossacks fully corresponded. Complementary destructive processes.

But in this case, the authors miscalculated. They drove the crazed intelligentsia into slaughterhouses like sheep. The spontaneous mutiny of the peasants and the hunger riots of the workers were quite easily suppressed. But the Cossacks were born and experienced warriors. Familiar to the spike, able to quickly organize. Their patience was only enough for a month, until they realized that they actually intend to lime at the root. The fire took up at once in several places. In the village of Yelanskaya, when 20 punishers captured another batch of victims, the Krasnoyarsk farm was set up. The Cossack Atlanov assembled a 15 man with two rifles - they went to fight off those arrested with swords and whips. In Kazan, when 25 tribunals with a machine gun to carry out “Carthage” arrived at one of the farmsteads, they also revolted. Gone chain reaction. The centurion Yegorov raised 2 thousand people in the Cossack outrage ...

As propaganda materials, the insurgents distributed the same Sverdlovsk genocide directive and a telegram of Kolevaev, a member of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Southern Front, in fulfillment of the directive, found by the commissioners killed. The insurgency spread rapidly, sweeping the stanitsa of Kazan, Elan, Veshenskaya, Migulinskaya, Shumilinskaya, Meshkovskaya, Ust-Khoperskaya, Karginskaya, Bokovskaya. Cossacks independently formed hundreds and regiments, chose commanders. They advanced the slogan: “For the Soviet power, but against the commune, executions and robberies”. The rebels did not have weapons, ammunition - almost all surrendered. But they took out their grandfather's checkers, forged the pikes and rushed to the attacks with cold weapons. Poured canister and bullets from tin dishes, from lead sieve winnowing. For several captured cannons, glasses of oak shells were turned on a lathe. And they persecuted, smashed executioners.

At the same time, the Ural Cossacks rebelled. Of course, not agreeing with Donskoy. But the same laws acted, they led to the same result. The Orenburg Cossacks also rose. Terek rose, actively supported Denikin. As a result, the campaign of genocide caused only harm to Soviet power. Victories on all fronts broke. Instead of finishing the White Guards, the troops turned around against the rebel Cossacks. Kolchak, Denikin recovered from the defeats and went on the offensive ... However, the international backstage behind Sverdlov and Trotsky, too, arranged this turn. Instead of ending the civil war in Russia, its new round began to unwind. New seas of blood poured. Great power fell into chaos and could not threaten Western competitors. On the contrary, it turned into a tasty prey.
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  1. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 29 January 2014 09: 14
    +22
    Better, deeper and truer this period of the history of the Cossack region is described in the Quiet Don of Sholokhov.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 29 January 2014 09: 36
      -2
      Quote: ICE
      Better, deeper and truer this period of the history of the Cossack region is described in the Quiet Don of Sholokhov

      Perhaps the author of this article uses a traditional recipe: take 50% of the truth and 50% of the lie, mix everything thoroughly, season it all with religious sauce, in accordance with the fashion of the day. The dish is ready, you can serve, hawala. The cheesecake has divorced more than the locksmiths .
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 29 January 2014 10: 26
        +6
        Quote: baltika-18
        Quote: ICE
        Better, deeper and truer this period of the history of the Cossack region is described in the Quiet Don of Sholokhov

        Perhaps the author of this article uses a traditional recipe: take 50% of the truth and 50% of the lie, mix everything thoroughly, season it all with religious sauce, in accordance with the fashion of the day. The dish is ready, you can serve, hawala. The cheesecake has divorced more than the locksmiths .


        Well, if you are in this episode of the history of the pros, write an article with interest to read you.
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 29 January 2014 20: 56
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          Well, if you're in this episode of pro history, write an article

          What kind of articles are needed here! Read "Quiet Don"!
          Great literature gives the right answers.
          The whole process is shown in this epic from the inside, without the vain "wisdom of men" inherent in the writings of many learned men.
          1. Combitor
            Combitor 30 January 2014 02: 48
            +1
            Quote: Alekseev
            What kind of articles are needed here! Read "Quiet Don"!

            Not only "Quiet Don", but also "Virgin Soil Upturned", as well as "Dauria" by Konstantin Sedykh, in my opinion, very truthfully show the life, everyday life and struggle of the Cossacks. The approach and disclosure of the topic by the authors are somewhat different, but the fact that this is done with talent is indisputable.
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    2. AVV
      AVV 29 January 2014 14: 33
      +2
      Again, the West was benefiting from a civil war within the country, which would eventually dismember Russia and manage its pieces as they want !!! They aspired to this then, they aspire to it now !!! This plan is also traced in Ukraine, creates chaos, then civil war, and then the country is divided into pieces !!! Nothing has changed between the Anglo-Saxons and its allies !!!
    3. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 29 January 2014 16: 04
      +5
      Better, deeper and truer this period of the history of the Cossack region is described in the Quiet Don of Sholokhov.
      I support. I read the book "Quiet Flows the Don", published in 1941 while still in school, it struck my eyes when Sholokhov described the equipment of the Red Army, it was clearly better equipped than the Cossacks. I didn't believe it at first. since in Soviet times, films showed the opposite.
      PS There are no winners in the civil war, only the vanquished. hi Gesheft from such a war always gets a third party.
    4. T80UM1
      T80UM1 30 January 2014 07: 56
      +2
      The most interesting thing is that all the reprisals were led by representatives of the "chosen people", now they are offended why they are not loved anywhere ... Good ... - dead ...
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 29 January 2014 09: 27
    +11
    How many Russian people died, horror.

    For this, I cannot be on the side of the Bolsheviks — the goal cannot justify the means for shedding blood immeasurably — you dig your own grave.

    It is not surprising that most of the revolutionary executioners of that time subsequently ended as well as their victims.
    1. Androsh
      Androsh 29 January 2014 20: 59
      +4
      In the first years after the so-called revolution, not only the Cossack estate was subjected to genocide, but also the nobility and priesthood. But to destroy the Cossacks was not so simple, since it was an organized military force, albeit a small one. :(
      1. holderrr
        holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 51
        +1
        Cossacks in Russia were 4 million. 777 thousand people.
  3. Freemason
    Freemason 29 January 2014 09: 31
    +3
    The article is interesting. I put the author +
  4. tomket
    tomket 29 January 2014 09: 39
    0
    A clear lesson on how to pay for treason. After all, the rejection of cohesion, of truly becoming a royal support, led to all that is described above. By the way, remember that you are swampy, rocking the boat, remember, and your Yakir and the Chinese will come to you to bury you.
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 29 January 2014 13: 54
      +6
      I can’t agree with you if the Cossacks went after the king until the end of the country drowned simply in blood even more.
      1. tomket
        tomket 29 January 2014 18: 13
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        it’s almost as if the military class in 41 decided not to go all the way with the power of which they swore, not to produce unnecessary victims. The estate of the Cossacks initially used the privileges that were granted to them, but instead had to serve faithfully. And when the time came to prove that they really were the king’s support, they didn’t want to multiply the victims. Actually, therefore, they were destroyed as a class, as unnecessary.
        1. holderrr
          holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 05
          +5
          Reliance of a king, explain? The king renounced. Romanov Nikolai Alexandrovich and his family betrayed Russia, but not the Cossacks. The Cossacks did not go to the slaughter by rams, like Nicholas 2.
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 03
      +3
      The Cossacks did not betray anyone. You, many non-Cossacks, do not know that the Don Cossacks swore allegiance only to the Tsar, and not to the Fatherland. The fatherland of every Cossack is Don. We still have an expression - "here in Russia ...". The tsar renounced - the Cossacks returned home, since there was no one to whom they had sworn allegiance since ancient times, when they actually joined Russia.
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 29 January 2014 19: 58
        +6
        The king, who abdicated the throne, by this abdication himself betrayed his people, all those who swore allegiance to him. Moreover, many of them were at the front and shed their blood there and what it was like for them to be left without their "banner". And therefore, he is not a martyr, but-Judas.
      2. Ratibor
        Ratibor 30 January 2014 11: 37
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        Initially, the Cossack Boyar husband, a warrior who received the Kaz (order) to preserve the Earth Native Fatherland (Russia, Muscovy, Tartaria, Russia and other names) but not like no king (there were no kings then). The Don Cossacks were unable to save their place of residence not all of their native land. Probably forgot Kaz. therefore, the Soviet government was able to bring discord into the ranks of the Cossacks.
        1. atalef
          atalef 30 January 2014 12: 01
          -3
          Quote: Ratibor
          Initially, the Cossack Boyar husband, a warrior who received the Kaz (order) to preserve the Earth Native Fatherland (Russia, Muscovy, Tartaria, Russia and other names) but not like no king (there were no kings then). The Don Cossacks were unable to save their place of residence not all of their native land. Probably forgot Kaz. therefore, the Soviet government was able to bring discord into the ranks of the Cossacks.

          In general, initially the Cossacks were simply runaway, as a rule serfs, fled to the Don (looking for freemen). They fought in gangs. they traded mainly by robbery, collected tribute from those who sailed along the rivers (then the rivers had the main transport arteries, by the way, therefore, all Cossack districts — or, as they were called by the names of the rivers) or security and escort of goods.
          In general, a direct analogue of the Bedouins. One to one - only these in the B.V. or the Vikings in the north
          Due to the specific kind of activity related to the ability to handle weapons and, of course, the presence of a certain military structure and, accordingly, commanders (atamans), they were attracted by the kings - for border protection, expeditionary expeditions with the aim of seizing land, security functions - in exchange, receiving the main thing, and namely, the refusal from prosecution as fleeing forts - and there was even such an order that a peasant who escaped and reached the Cossack villages (the so-called Sich) was automatically considered free and was not subject to prosecution.
          In return, the Cossacks gave the kings what they demanded of them, service, participation in campaigns. border protection and police functions (such as explosives) in the empire
          Therefore, you do not need all these tales. Defense of Russia, such as no relation to tsarism and all these similar myths
          When Yermak almost captured Siberia and arrived with all the presents to Ivan the Terrible - most of all he was afraid of. so it is that he and half of his chieftains are transplanted as runaways. But the gifts were rich, and the territories were not small, therefore they were forgiven by royal mercy.
          It is beautiful of course to live in fairy tales, but what was - was was not in any way overturning the subsequent merits of the Cossacks as warriors (to take at least their participation in the 1812 war). Napoleonic troops were most afraid of Cossack peaks.
          But, the Cossacks began as a gang of robbers, retailers and private security companies --- well, they are trying to revive many of these functions now.
          And then - were the internal troops of tsarism - a sort of Praetorian guard.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 30 January 2014 12: 57
            +1
            Cossacks lived long before serfdom, runaway peasants joined the Cossacks, but this was later and they did not constitute a significant part of the Cossacks.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 30 January 2014 13: 26
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              Quote: RUSS
              Cossacks lived long before serfdom, runaway peasants joined the Cossacks, but this was later and they did not constitute a significant part of the Cossacks

              If possible, bring the facts
              The enslavement of peasants in Russia began in the 11-12th century, the first mention of the Cossacks dates back to 1445.
              What do you say about this.
          2. pogodnick
            pogodnick 30 January 2014 13: 02
            -1
            how a gang of robbers are described by Jews in the Old Testament.
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        3. atalef
          atalef 30 January 2014 13: 51
          0
          Quote: Ratibor
          Initially, Cossack BoYary husband, a warrior who received Kaz (mandate)

          Atamans tell you this, reality is more prosaic
          the word "Kozak" came to Russian and Polish from Ukrainian and goes back to Old Russian "Kozak", which meant "civilian employee, farm laborer."

          In the dictionary of V. I. Dahl it is noted, however, that this term "probably" comes from the Central Asian "Kazmak" in the meaning of "wander, wander." For him, the Cossack was understood as an “army man in the street, a settled warrior” belonging to the “Cossack estate” in Novgorod and northern dialects, “farm laborer, annual hired worker” (not day laborer), sometimes “servant.” [9]

          The ancient Turkic meaning is “separated, set aside from a kind”. [10]

          Quote: Ratibor
          Don Cossacks could not save their place of residence not all the sick Native Land

          generally served a lot to whom
          Throughout history, they served four powers: Russia, Poland, Sweden (Mazepa and Gordienko) and Germany (Kosakenlager), but they are still considered to be a unique Russian formation throughout the world

          In general, read, here more or less in detail. and then we argue ---- if you want
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B8
  5. predator.3
    predator.3 29 January 2014 09: 43
    +19
    Well, who are the organizers of Sverdlov, Trotsky, Yakir, Zemlyachka! A people from small-town, parish, who today love to tear the Holocaust, as they say, sow the wind, reap the storm!
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 29 January 2014 15: 14
      +5
      Ataman Krasnov, “a representative of the five millionth free people,” as he liked to call himself, quickly established a semblance of diplomatic relations with Ukraine of the hetman Skoropadsky and Germany. The Germans and Ukrainians recognized the sovereign power - though, again, unofficially, without sending plenipotentiary ambassadors and the thunder of orchestras. Inspired Krasnov wrote a letter to Kaiser Wilhelm, in which, without false modesty, he asked to make a large number of small requests: that the Kaiser help return the Taganrog District by putting pressure on Ukraine for this; so that the Kaiser would facilitate the transfer of Voronezh, Kamyshin, and Tsaritsyn to “for strategic reasons” by pushing Moscow for this. And in return, if you discard diplomatic turnovers, he promised to continue to stand in any position from the Kama Sutra, which Germany would please. The Don were not going to seriously fight the Bolsheviks. Out of about thirty-five thousand combatant Cossacks, only four hundred came to the Denikin Volunteer Army. It is not surprising that Denikin, who looked impotently with anger at this political news, once said: “The Don Army is a prostitute selling herself to the one who pays the most.”
      Krasnov was seriously offended and, in turn, called Denikin "a traitor", an apologist for the "old regime", "who offended the brutally young national feelings of the Cossacks."
      This operetta "power" lasted for a short time - in the end, she still sent several small detachments to fight with the Bolsheviks, who left the front in the Voronezh province and turned home, hoping to stay. Failed. The Reds came and staged what we now know as “gossip."
      One of the leaders of the repressions was not even repeatedly criticized by Sverdlov, but Andrei Lukich Kolegaev, a long-term member of the Left Socialist Revolutionary Party, who joined the Bolsheviks in the eighteenth. It was he, a member of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Southern Front, who sent the armies directives that surpassed even Sverdlov’s circulars: burn the rebellious farms, shoot everyone who took not only direct but also indirect participation in the uprisings, shoot every tenth, or even fifth.
      1. holderrr
        holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 11
        +1
        And why did the Cossacks have to join Denikin's army when they had their own Don army? You forgot to write that Ataman Krasnov P.N. fully supplied the Dobrarmia with ammunition, food, uniforms and placed them on its territory. In response, he received insults. You also kept silent about the answer of P.N. Krasnov. Denikin; - "If the Don Army is a prostitute, then Denikin is a cat fed by a prostitute!" So that's it.
  6. Stiletto
    Stiletto 29 January 2014 09: 45
    +26
    This was not the tragedy of the Cossacks, but the tragedy of the entire Russian people. And on that, and on the other hand, his best sons, their families, their children, born and not born, perished. In any civil war, under whatever banner it goes, there are neither right nor guilty, there is deep pain for the whole country, and joy for strangers jackals warming their paws and trying to snatch their piece during fratricide.
  7. Volkhov
    Volkhov 29 January 2014 09: 47
    +4
    Cossacks, like the Indians, could not defeat the global system and even understand it, Nazism based on German aristocratic groups became the systemic response. Only in knightly orders was knowledge, money and closeness to the outside world.
  8. RUSS
    RUSS 29 January 2014 09: 57
    +1
    The author of the article is Valery Shambarov, is the author of the book "White Guard", a rather interesting book on the events of the Civil War, I also recommend the book -Cossacks - by V.Auysky.

    PS For the genocide of the Cossacks alone, I hate the Bolsheviks and all this red scum with their ideology.
    1. Generalissimus
      Generalissimus 30 January 2014 00: 20
      0
      The author of the article is Valery Shambarov, is the author of the book "White Guard", a rather interesting book on the events of the Civil War, I also recommend the book -Cossacks - by V.Auysky.

      PS For the genocide of the Cossacks alone, I hate the Bolsheviks and all this red scum with their ideology.
      Cossacks deserve the hatred of the Reds for their cruelty. Firstly. So there is no need for emotions here - it’s not you who studied one question.
      In addition, white scum with their ideology for me personally is a hundred times worse.
      And the Red Army is the heroes whose descendants created the greatest state. Do not agree? I'm violet. I have my own truth.
      Stay healthy, Cossack.
      I wish you a little follow the language. Do not vilify millions of people in one fell swoop. And they will not answer you the same.

      ps: the great-grandson of the royal officer who died in 1916; the grandson of a submarine officer who won the Great Patriotic War; son of a military medical officer. And he doesn’t miss. I have the honor.
  9. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 29 January 2014 10: 04
    +9
    from the Don.
    They dispossessed my grandfather. They took it from: Exploiter: everything — 2 byks, 3 horses, 3 cows and left without means of subsistence. My mother, the kingdom of heaven to her, walked around people and babied children for a piece of bread. These were the times. The whole gene pool of the owners was destroyed!
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 14
      +2
      Everything was taken from my great-grandfather. In the mornings, comedians came and checked the pots with their finger for fat. My grandfather and grandmother fled to Taganrog from Don. My grandmother’s brother shot the chairman of the commander and received 25 years of camps and exile. In the house of his great-grandfather, the chairman of the commander was sitting - the main starving man from nonresident. Great-grandfather died of a broken heart.
    2. saygon66
      saygon66 29 January 2014 21: 42
      +1
      - My father’s great-grandfather was allegedly cleaned because he was holding a farm laborer (a boy from orphans taken to the house), half of his relatives changed their surname, and fled to the then Turkestan ... Great-grandfather did not return ...
  10. oper66
    oper66 29 January 2014 10: 16
    +13
    It’s only that the genocide of the Russian people was led by people of the same nationality and their descendants again in power yesterday on a broadcast about the famine in the 20s it was terrible to watch the directives of the Central Committee of Bronstein and his henchmen horror worldly only one directive of November 17, 1923 where it was proposed to smash church since the time has come and the roads are strewn with corpses and the meters eat children ... these are the words from the directive, I wonder what ..... it puts a minus the article shows the same abortion of fiery revolutionaries
    1. Turkestan
      Turkestan 29 January 2014 12: 30
      +7
      Gangs of the Cossack chieftain Annenkov.

      In the city of Sergiopol, 800 people were shot, chopped and hanged. The village of Troitskoye was burned, where 100 men, 13 women, 7 babies were killed by the Annenkovites. In the village of Nikolsky, 300 people were flown, 30 were shot and five were hanged. In the village of Znamenka, which is 45 miles from Semipalatinsk, almost the entire population has been carved, and women have their breasts cut off. In the village of Kolpakovka, 733 people were chopped up, shot and hanged, in the village of Podgorny, 200. The villages of Bulgaria, Konstantinovka, Nekrasovka were burned. In the village of Pokatilovka, half of the inhabitants are chopped up. In Karabulak, Ucharalsky volost, all men were destroyed. According to witness Turchinov, the corpses did not burrow, and the dogs were so fattened and accustomed to human flesh that, the beast, rushed at living people. Near the Chinese border in the tract An-Agach, there were 900 corpses, and beyond the Ala-Kul lake - 600. All of them were former soldiers of the Annenkov hordes and were destroyed by their own for not wanting to remain under the rule of the chieftain.

      And who arranged this genocide ?????? And mind you, this is a microscopic episode of atrocity atrocities
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 29 January 2014 13: 16
        0
        Quote: Turkestan
        Gangs of the Cossack chieftain Annenkov.

        Yes, for those interested, read Pikul's: “There was a city that did not exist.” And then start shouting that all this is the author's fiction and fiction.
      2. oper66
        oper66 29 January 2014 13: 20
        +1
        You correctly noted that the gangs, and the bandits do not have the class of simply robbers and their goal was only robbery and their attitude to the Cossacks, dear Ilyich’s granddaughters, there was no young coma of the regiment, Gaidar, who was doing such things that not one killer could achieve. In addition, I say that the Cossacks as an estate were destroyed by the commissar as well as the working peasants, without distinction on class, just like the people of Russia and through executions of various ways and starvation .... you need to evaluate the actions of the commissars who pitted the people in order to seize property and food
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 29 January 2014 15: 19
        +2
        Quote: Turkestan
        And mind you, this is a microscopic episode of atrocity atrocities

        And your people have such a feature - to warm their hands on someone else’s grief, and add more oil to the fire. Virtually all firing commissars are representatives of God's people.
        1. holderrr
          holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 22
          +5
          And the composition of the punitive detachments is completely international - the Chinese, Koreans, Balts, Magyars and of course those chosen by God. At the same time, the first Koreans appeared on the Don. And in 1992 the Koreans asked me: "Where are you from, the Cossacks here come from?" They saw a Cossack cap in my hands.
      4. holderrr
        holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 18
        +3
        And it was necessary for the Cossacks to give a present to all the guests, and repent. Well, what are we byakas, who have guarded the empire for centuries, they created it by joining the lands, the first to go to war, the last to retreat - forgive us for this, we won’t be like that anymore. So in your opinion? You all still hate us.
        1. Kazakh
          Kazakh 29 January 2014 19: 22
          +3
          These are all liberals, such a brother, they only like Cossacks in films, but they will need us alive when the goose is brought to the backside
      5. aviamed90
        aviamed90 30 January 2014 15: 10
        0
        Turkestan

        Is this Annenkov a Cossack?
        Rather - a Russian officer of the Cossack troops.

        "Boris Vladimirovich Annenkov (9/21 / February 1889 - 25 August 1927) was born in the family of a hereditary nobleman, a retired colonel, which had about 70 acres of land and an estate in the Volyn province. “On the line of my father, my ancestry comes from the Decembrist Annenkov,” wrote B.V. Annenkov.

        Having graduated from the Odessa Cadet Corps by the 1906 and in the 1909 from the Moscow Alexander School, he was in the rank of cornet defined to serve in the 1st Siberian Cossack Ermak Timofeevich regiment, commanded a hundred, and then served in the Cossack regiment in Kokchetav ... "

        (site "annenkov.ru", family portal "Annenkov.ru")
  11. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 29 January 2014 10: 46
    +7
    Interestingly, civil war, with everything else it's like chess, equal "starting" positions for White and Black, then everything depends only on intelligence, cunning, deceit, etc. etc. The Reds won, so they turned out to be smarter, more cunning, more cunning than the Whites, who prevented the Whites from winning? Did the Reds have some kind of cheat activated? Or were they much stronger militarily? Yes, Lenin was a genius, it's stupid to deny it and somehow childishly, "no, Lenin was a killer maniac", but then it turns out that "the best minds that Mother Russia could put forward" was won by one "unbalanced demagogue"? What are these "best sons of Russia" then worth? Who prevented them from rallying and supporting the Volunteer Army? The communists interfered with the chtoli? Would you take a saber, a three-line, a faithful horse and go and pile on the "infidels-Bolsheviks", why have they withdrawn? Why did they start squabbling and empty talk in their Cossack circles? The same Denikin repeatedly in his memoirs recalls all these endless squabbles of the Cossacks among themselves and they say “my house is on the edge.” It is clear that as soon as the Dobravoltsy were dealt with, they came for the Cossacks, what for Lenin the Cossacks? Why the hell did they surrender to him? future thought aat, and not only when they came for them. So that all these lamentations about the "innocent murdered" are better left for impressionable schoolgirls, who can be showered with noodles about "insidious communists who destroyed the Russian Empire's dream country."
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 29 January 2014 10: 55
      +3
      Why the hell did they surrender to Lenin? So I had to think about the future earlier, and not just when they came for them. So all these moaning about the "innocent murdered" is better left for impressionable schoolgirls, who can be showered with noodles about " insidious communists who destroyed the dream-country of the Russian Empire "

      That is, the Cossacks were "not innocently killed"? Children, women, old people? Turkey put forward a "note of protest" to Soviet Russia because of the pollution of the Black Sea in the coastal Turkish zone, where the corpses of killed Cossacks and officers of the tsarist army were decomposing in thousands.
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      2. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 29 January 2014 11: 41
        +1
        You cling to words, so that there were no all these murders and other things, what were the Cossacks supposed to do? Sit to sit and vote or still fight? Volunteers are fighting with the Reds at their side, and the Cossacks are sitting, to help or not help, it might be better to sit out ? And in general "woe to the vanquished," and even worse to those indifferent and hoping to sit out. Ahh crowds of executed officers. Why did not they fight and die with weapons in their hands. The children, women and old people who were shot, why were they not protected? They knew that the Reds were on ceremony will not, and why, in fact, only the Reds, how many gangsters of all kinds, Greens, anarchists, newly-minted "rulers", interventionists, "nezalezhnye", they did not kill anyone? That is the Civil War, they don't stand on ceremony here, over there during the Civil War in the USA 1861-65, General Sherman's "March to the Sea", they shot everyone, everyone in general, children, women, old people and nothing.
        1. Colonel
          Colonel 29 January 2014 12: 17
          +4
          Quote: Standard Oil
          Ah, crowds of executed officers. Why didn’t they fight and die with weapons in their hands? Shot children, women and old people, why didn’t they protect them?

          As the proverb says: "It's good to be smart earlier, like my wife later." Is your question a mockery, or did you ask sincerely?
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 29 January 2014 13: 06
          +7
          Standard Oil
          Your post expresses support for the reprisal against the Cossacks and as an excuse give examples of Americans.
          The Cossacks did not understand and did not believe that they were waiting for what was possible in Russia at all. And the red devils at the head of the Jews, specially created punitive detachments from the Chinese, Estonians and Latvians, knew that the majority of Russian Red Army men would not raise a hand for women and children.
        3. pogodnick
          pogodnick 29 January 2014 13: 57
          +1
          Quote: Standard Oil
          Here it was necessary to think about the future earlier

          the punishers themselves did not think about their own ...
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 26
      +4
      About millions of those killed, and not just, but brutally - to innocent schoolgirls? I am convinced that you are a fellow countryman of Bronstein and Yankel Movshevich Sverdlov or commies. Or all together. We Cossacks have not forgotten anything, we remember this. Glory to Don! Our hour will come anyway!
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 30 January 2014 11: 09
        0
        Quote: holderrr
        About millions of those killed, and not just, but brutally - to innocent schoolgirls? I am convinced that you are a fellow countryman of Bronstein and Yankel Movshevich Sverdlov or commies. Or all together. We Cossacks have not forgotten anything, we remember this. Glory to Don! Our hour will come anyway!


        Anything !!!!!!!!!
  12. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 29 January 2014 10: 59
    -2
    Well, yes, and the Cossacks were "white and fluffy" .... just for some reason, in the Russian Empire, ordinary people hated them fiercely.
    There is a very interesting book by Yuri Nenakhov "Cavalry on the battlefields of the twentieth century" where everything is described in detail about the Cossacks and the reasons for this attitude towards them are also explained.
    Anyone who wants to get acquainted in more detail with various "White Guard" literature devoted to this issue (memoirs, memoirs, etc.), and indeed the history of the entire Civil War in Russia, I refer to this resource:
    http://www.belrussia.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98
    There you will find many interesting things. Good luck.
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 January 2014 11: 22
      +3
      Where did the Russian people find hatred for the Cossacks ,,,, Cossacks are the Russian people, so he became from the same peasants who fled from the fortress of landowners, remember "There is no extradition from the Don" and all that you think about hatred is cultivated in the head of the prompted commissars ...
      1. Turkestan
        Turkestan 29 January 2014 12: 19
        +1
        Yes! But why didn’t General Krasnov think so?

        KAZAKI!
        Remember, you are not Russians, you Cossacks are independent people. Russians are hostile to you. Moscow has always been an enemy of the Cossacks, has long exploited them. Now the time has come when we, Cossacks, can create our own life independent of Moscow. ”

        From the appeal of General Krasnov to the White Cossack emigration to support Hitler's aggression against the USSR, Russia. 1942, Germany
        1. oper66
          oper66 29 January 2014 13: 29
          +1
          I see you are looking for excuses the commissars can see a descendant of the lumpen who was led by the Jews and you can see with a bayonet in their hands .. and what do you know about the Plastuns and Cossack connections in the Second World War
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          2. atalef
            atalef 29 January 2014 13: 44
            +1
            Quote: oper66
            and what do you know about Plastunas and Cossack connections in the Second World War

            Which side of the warriors? - specify.
            1. oper66
              oper66 29 January 2014 14: 58
              +4
              Accordingly, the USSR
          3. Turkestan
            Turkestan 29 January 2014 14: 20
            -1
            Yes, I know how many Cossacks fought on the side of the Soviet regime for \ RED \ and WWII. But besides this, I know how many Cossacks fought on the side of Hitler Germany. As information by the end of the war, the number of 15 cavalry Cossack corps of the SS troops (two cavalry divisions, a Plastun brigade and corps) was approximately 35 thousand.
            1. holderrr
              holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 39
              +5
              And how many Russians fought against the USSR, and other peoples of the USSR? Oh, what Cossacks are traitors! And I would go to tear the throats in red, if I experienced on myself what my ancestors did. Because for centuries Russia was shed blood, for crosses on their chests - they took away the house, Earth, Motherland, life, forbade the clothes of their ancestors to wear, villages to villages, villages to villages. No need to turn upside down. Cossacks Krasnov and Ataman himself were not citizens of the USSR, like General Vlasov, to whom the Soviets gave everything. The Soviets took everything from the Cossacks!
              1. rkkasa xnumx
                rkkasa xnumx 29 January 2014 21: 14
                +1
                Quote: holderrr
                And how many Russians fought against the USSR, and other peoples of the USSR?

                The vast majority of Russians and other peoples of the USSR fought on the side of the Soviet Union. Unlike the Cossacks ...
                1. pogodnick
                  pogodnick 30 January 2014 10: 26
                  0
                  Well, nonsense. how many Cossacks were in the USSR army?
              2. Patton5
                Patton5 30 January 2014 00: 40
                0
                Who would tear the throats ???? to those who were not there, did not take part and did not even know about it ???? That's how it is worth starting with ... my grandfather was dispossessed !!! death krasnopuzym !!!! and the fact that millions of people are obliged to "red" freedom, prosperity, life, do not care !!!! The civil war is a tragedy, but only the Bolsheviks are to blame for it ???
                1. holderrr
                  holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 57
                  0
                  throats to tear to the one who did or supported it. In the ROA anthem, everything is on the shelves with whom to fight.
        2. BARKAS
          BARKAS 29 January 2014 14: 04
          +7
          Quote: Turkestan
          Yes! But why didn’t General Krasnov think so?

          And what did Vlasov think? How can one agree by quoting it.
          And the Cossacks reached Berlin and participated in the parade on Red Square!
        3. holderrr
          holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 33
          -1
          Pyotr Nikolaevich Krasnov was not. Honored Combat General, writer, historian. And he knew what he was saying. Glory to Don!
      2. holderrr
        holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 31
        +2
        We Cossacks are Russians by language and faith, but not by origin. We, the Cossacks from the Cossacks! Cossack Family dumb translation!
        1. skullcap
          skullcap 29 January 2014 19: 55
          +1
          Quote: holderrr
          We, the Cossacks, Russian by language and faith, but not by origin. We, the Cossacks from the Cossacks are leading!

          Absolutely the same is said by the newly-born super-ancient Ukrainians.
          (Will anyone see himself in them?) They do not want to see that they were artificially brought out according to the principle of "divide and conquer".
          The same applies to the Cossacks. If they were a separate people, they would have their own separate language.
          And so in the history there are many cases when some people were crushing and creating new separate people from renegades, which were then set off in a mutually destroying war.
          It is not necessary to go far: a part of the Serbs were baptized into Catholics and the result was Croats; forced, on pain of death, to convert Islam to another part of it - and all sorts of different Bosnians and other Turchins came out. And, most importantly, to the delight of the experimenters, they cut each other with extreme fanaticism.
          It is noteworthy that your position below is selflessly defended by atalef (3)  Today, 14: 55 ↑; "The Cossacks lived separately, married each other - that is how it was and the same is back again."
          as they say - no comment.
          In general, as they say, the head is needed not only to wear a hat.
          1. holderrr
            holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 56
            +1
            But the Dutch speak distorted German, but they don’t have Swiss, and the Swiss have dozens of such examples. Mexicans, Brazilians, etc. Your argument is not significant.
          2. holderrr
            holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 57
            0
            One of the features of the social structure of Russia during the late XIX - early XX centuries. was the preservation of the Cossack class. The presence of the Cossacks is such a specific phenomenon that without it, knowledge of pre-revolutionary, revolutionary history cannot be sufficiently comprehensive. The long history of the Cossacks testifies to the fact that these or other Cossack troops went into the area of ​​legend and, at the same time, new Cossack regions arose. By the end of the XIX century. In the country there were 11 Cossack troops: Amur, Astrakhan, Don, Transbaikal, Kuban, Orenburg, Siberian, Semirechensk, Tersk, Ussuri, Ural. Of these, the youngest was the Ussuriysk army, approved in 1889. In this composition, the Cossack troops, Cossack regions remained until February 1917. During the period of the Provisional Bourgeois government, two more independent Cossack troops emerged: the Yenisei and Irkutsk. The names of the Cossack troops themselves testify to the breadth of the territories in which the Cossack population lived, suggest that the study of the Cossack problem, the Cossack population is far from local, is of significant interest on a national scale.
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      3. pawel57
        pawel57 29 January 2014 23: 05
        +2
        Cossacks never considered themselves Russian. And now they have proclaimed themselves to be the people.
    2. Orik
      Orik 29 January 2014 12: 44
      +11
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Well, yes, and the Cossacks were "white and fluffy" .... just for some reason, in the Russian Empire, ordinary people hated them fiercely.

      Nobody canceled envy, the Cossacks were much better provided with land, had greater freedom than a simple man. And the Cossack looked at the man from high, where did love come from.
      1. atalef
        atalef 29 January 2014 14: 08
        +9
        Quote: Orik
        Nobody canceled envy, the Cossacks were much better provided with land, had greater freedom than a simple man. And the Cossack looked at the man from high, where did love come from.

        Cossacks initially had greater privileges than ordinary citizens of the Russian Empire. They paid less taxes, were not enslaved. settled mainly along the borders of the empire. But along with concessions and privileges they had responsibilities, namely. if bourgeois served every fifth (drafted into the army) Cossacks served without exception, i.e. everything.
        The Cossacks had their own separate units, were controlled by their chieftains, and had their military ranks. Tsarism deliberately separated the Cossacks from the rest of the armed forces. The main function of the Cossacks in peacetime (and Russia still lived more in the world than fought) was the function of the Internal (police) troops. pacification of riots, escort, patrolling. Of course, they did not mix with the Russian (and considered themselves a separate nationality) because then the performance of all these functions would be very difficult for them.
        And now, ask the Cossack who he is Russian or a Cossack - the Cossack will answer.
        1. BARKAS
          BARKAS 29 January 2014 14: 31
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Of course they are not mixed with Russian (

          This is not so the Cossacks mingled not only with the Russians but even happened with the local population of the Caucasus; in addition, the Russian Old Believers were in the ranks of the Cossacks in the Kuban.
          But there were indeed obstacles and barriers to such mixing.
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          2. atalef
            atalef 29 January 2014 14: 55
            +1
            Quote: BARKAS
            This is not so. Cossacks mingled not only with Russians, but even happened with the local population of the Caucasus; besides, there were Russian Old Believers in the ranks of Cossacks in the Kuban. But there really were obstacles and barriers to such mixing

            It’s not worthwhile to rule out individual cases.
            The Cossacks lived separately, married among themselves - it was so and they object again.
            1. holderrr
              holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 48
              -1
              And you describe to us the racial laws of Israel. And then you will condemn the traditions of the Cossacks.
              1. holderrr
                holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 12
                0
                And a lot to see on the site of co-religionists Bronstein. As soon as I gave a hint about the racial laws of Israel, right there in the minuses, like a chest in crosses! They made fun of it, by golly!
              2. pogodnick
                pogodnick 30 January 2014 10: 34
                +1
                Particularly interesting moments in the Old Testament, when Moses says that it is necessary to kill prisoners, children of boys and women, and leave the girls as servants.
          3. oper66
            oper66 29 January 2014 15: 01
            -2
            But how do they want to divide the Russian people !!!! Cossacks are not Russian !!!! here it is nonsense that we do not know the Jews are Russian, but the fact that they were shinkars among the Cossacks is a fact all this is the machinations of the enemies of the Russian people. Then Ermak is not Russian and Ilya Muromets is not Russian
            1. atalef
              atalef 29 January 2014 15: 20
              +1
              Quote: oper66
              Cossacks are not Russian !!!! here is nonsense

              Not nonsense. Belarusians and Ukrainians are also not Russian, however. Cossacks want this. to me all the same.
              http://forum.kazarla.ru/topic/3209-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81-%D0%BE-%
              D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0
              % B8 /
              Cossack forum - this topic is very vividly discussed, up to the point of citing examples of filing a lawsuit with the requirement to change nationality to --- Cossack.
              Quote: oper66
              Then Ermak is not Russian

              And this is what has to do with it. By the way, the origin of Ermak is not known. it is possible that he was the same Ukrainian
              Quote: oper66
              they were shinkars among the Cossacks.

              Drinking establishments were gos. monopoly. - whom they probably wanted and put. I don’t think the Jews were eating there. And if they were. what's the problem
              A shink is just a pub.
              Well, about the facts, if you got so wound up - read whom the largest number (of which parts) were in the service of the Wehrmacht and the SS.
              Just the facts.
              1. Kazakh
                Kazakh 29 January 2014 19: 19
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Cossack forum - this topic is very vividly discussed, up to the point of citing examples of filing a lawsuit with the requirement to change nationality to --- Cossack.

                In the last census even people recorded in the elves recorded, but it was just not visible and no protests were heard against this
              2. holderrr
                holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 50
                0
                The fact that you are Cacacophobe is clear without a microscope.
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            3. andranick
              andranick 29 January 2014 15: 30
              +1
              Quote: oper66
              Cossacks are not Russian !!!!
              Imagine exactly that.
              1. oper66
                oper66 29 January 2014 15: 56
                0
                But how many ill-fated descendants of Ilyich’s comrades-in-arms and how much impurity you have in your blood is clear whose okay shabesgoys argue with you not to respect yourself .....
                1. andranick
                  andranick 29 January 2014 16: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: oper66
                  and the admixture in your blood is clear whose
                  Whose?
              2. holderrr
                holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 51
                0
                Lovely and true!
        2. holderrr
          holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 47
          0
          And I will answer you - I am a Cossack! And I am proud of the ancestors of the Cossacks! And privileges and privileges are not just given. They are deserved!
        3. Patton5
          Patton5 30 January 2014 00: 55
          -1
          Cossacks are a very ambiguous phenomenon, you say the Cossacks settled on the borders, I will say the Cossacks settled on the borders ... I wrote many times that the Cossacks, through their entire history, could not form the core for the creation of any state. always on the back of a destructive ... Hence the consequences ... Although total genocide, if there was such a thing, it is certainly an excess, atrocities cannot be justified by anything!
          1. pogodnick
            pogodnick 30 January 2014 10: 40
            +1
            Quote: Patton5
            He wrote many times that the Cossacks throughout their history could not have been the core

            If so, the Cossacks would be slaves. But that was not so. And you can write 1000 times. Can make out the signs of statehood?
    3. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 19: 30
      +4
      Yes, you still hate us. For our free ancestors, who were not flogged at the stables, for a reference economy, for our pride and independence, for our songs and the Spirit! We will not break now, we have been reborn. We returned and still recall such spiteful critics. Glory to Don!
      1. atalef
        atalef 29 January 2014 21: 46
        +2
        Quote: holderrr
        Yes, you still hate us. For our free ancestors, who were not flogged at the stables, for a reference economy, for our pride and independence, for our songs and the Spirit! We will not break now, we have been reborn. We returned and still recall such spiteful critics. Glory to Don!

        I thought only the elected Jews, it turns out that the Cossacks are the same. Love, love, le hime laughing
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 29 January 2014 21: 47
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          I thought only the Jews were chosen

          Only honestly, you are flattered.
          1. atalef
            atalef 29 January 2014 23: 38
            -1
            Quote: Apollon
            Quote: atalef
            I thought only the Jews were chosen

            Only honestly, you are flattered.

            Hello Apollo !!
            Of course, I have repeatedly told a story about my good acquaintance with such a Cossack surname Farfel, and so, Borya, my acquaintance, it means that he is not so poor and has a lot of companies in the Krasnodar Territory, and so I come to him somehow , and I see the cloak is drying out, I tell him, Borya, sho tse take, do you really sit in the cloak on long Israeli winter nights, what he tells me, his enterprises in the Krasnodar Territory are covered by Cossacks, he certainly tells them about their Cossack circle (so to speak, for revival of the Cossacks) not feeble grandmothers unfastens and carries to Israel he is treated by persons close to the top of the reviving Cossacks, in gratitude for which he was awarded a cloak, a hat, a whip and a saber, but he was also given the title - I already forgot which one - I remember said that it’s like a major, now as I understand it, if you push from the previous post, he (fighting) is just twice elected. laughing
            1. holderrr
              holderrr 30 January 2014 11: 33
              +3
              Jews wear hats and stripes? So be honored Cossack? Cossacks Yermolka did not dress and will not dress! Do you feel the difference? You need to be born a Cossack, you need to become a Cossack, you need to be a Cossack!
      2. Patton5
        Patton5 30 January 2014 01: 01
        0
        Oh oh !!! with such moods ,,, for the Cossacks everything will end again very badly !!!! Cossacks apparently do not learn from mistakes, in this you are like us Russians!
        1. holderrr
          holderrr 30 January 2014 11: 34
          0
          Wait and see, we are not afraid. Praise God that we are Cossacks!
    4. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 29 January 2014 19: 40
      +1
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      that's just for some reason, in the Russian Empire, ordinary people hated them fiercely

      Yeah, especially small-town r "gussky, until now!
      1. holderrr
        holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 58
        -1
        Any brother !!!
  13. shelva
    shelva 29 January 2014 11: 11
    +4
    The "boomerang" principle also worked here - who was at the "wall" and who got an ice ax in the head.
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 30 January 2014 01: 09
      +1
      Stalin did not regret them either! The Cossacks share this, or go shoulder to shoulder with the Russian people, or perish forever ... for they are flesh from the flesh, blood from the blood of the Russian people !!! And if they in their pride forget about it, everyone knows the consequences !!!
  14. dmb
    dmb 29 January 2014 11: 24
    +4
    It would be interesting to read the biography of the author. There may be found out some very interesting details. Let's just say that he was a member of the Komsomol district committee or a party organizer in a newspaper, and at meetings he branded capitalists of all countries with shame and waved a poster with the words "Freedom to Angela Davis". In this biography, we are unlikely to find information that he refused the education imposed on him by the sworn commies and was imprisoned in Mordovian camps for anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda. But, judging by the rage poured out, information about his grandfather, who fought with Krasnov together with the German "liberators" at Stalingrad, may well be there. True, if it is not an autobiography.
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 January 2014 11: 50
      +1
      For a long time, Lenin's letter was classified. Pay attention to several citations (Quoted from: Proceedings of the CPSU Central Committee. 1990. No. 4. S.190-193):
      "... It is now and only now, when people are being eaten in hungry areas and hundreds if not thousands of corpses are lying on the roads, we can (and therefore must) carry out the seizures of church valuables with the most frantic and merciless energy and without stopping before suppressing anything resistance ". Yes, good grandfather Lenin, and at the same time the Bolsheviks in 23 began exporting grain stolen from the people to Germany ... including from the Cossacks ...
      1. dmb
        dmb 29 January 2014 12: 36
        +4
        I usually don't pay too much attention. on the personality of commentators, but the gentleman with the EU flag and a complete lack of information about himself in his profile strongly resembles cheap provocateurs. His own tendency to provocations is evident from the commentary. Citing Lenin's "super-secret letter", he forgot that it could be read in the complete collected works and a dozen other sources. The funny thing is that the "operas" consider the requisition of these values, as well as the values ​​of the exploiting class to save our fellow citizens from hunger, a bad thing, and the frenzied resistance to this requisition and, accordingly, the death of our fellow citizens from hunger, is a good thing. So who then carried out the genocide of the Russian people? Judging by the same flag and rhetoric, this gentleman strongly resembles the "maydanutyh" people who are very unloved on this site about artificially arranged hunger.
        1. oper66
          oper66 29 January 2014 13: 37
          -1
          no, it’s not a flag of geyropa, but there is no data, I wanted to leave the site, but I couldn’t manage to get out of it. Try and purchased 2 ml. of pounds of grain and adjusted the export of grain in the same 23, but in the void there is an echo like in your head
          1. Patton5
            Patton5 30 January 2014 01: 15
            0
            And how many people did not die of hunger in these tragic times !!! Golden candlestick will you eat?
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 29 January 2014 13: 47
      +5
      Quote: dmb
      It would be interesting to read the author’s biography

      This shot comes from Ukraine. He graduated from MEPhI in 1979. After the institute he went to the army as an officer. In the army he received a higher political education with a degree in International Relations and Foreign Policy, that is, he graduated from the Higher Party School. A typical careerist. Now all this is stigmatized. , rebuilt, according to the convictions of the monarchist.
      Sorry, I can’t stand these.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 29 January 2014 14: 08
        +1
        Quote: baltika-18
        Quote: dmb
        It would be interesting to read the author’s biography

        This shot comes from Ukraine. He graduated from MEPhI in 1979. After the institute he went to the army as an officer. In the army he received a higher political education with a degree in International Relations and Foreign Policy, that is, he graduated from the Higher Party School. A typical careerist. Now all this is stigmatized. , rebuilt, according to the convictions of the monarchist.
        Sorry, I can’t stand these.


        Many of the members of the forum at the time of Stalin's Hayli Union, now many have "opened their eyes", Stalin is not a tyrant, but a savior. This means that a person tends to change his beliefs and political preferences. Many of us were pioneers, Komsomol members and party members, so what?
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 29 January 2014 14: 45
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          Many of us were pioneers, Komsomol members and party so what?

          Repainted, therefore, for the sake of fashion, depending on the benefits. But I’ve always remained that Komsomol member of the 70s and 80s, I was not in the party.
          I have the honor. hi
      2. dmb
        dmb 29 January 2014 21: 07
        +1
        In general, I was not very mistaken in the forecast. That's just about beliefs that you are in vain. Convinced monarchists were transferred at the end of the 20's, and this, as you quite rightly noted, is a careerist. Such beliefs change based on who is in power.
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    4. Patton5
      Patton5 30 January 2014 01: 12
      0
      So they were all there !!! Only now everyone writes that from a young age they fought against "kamunyaki", and with all their might they were breaking up the hated "scoop" ...
  15. oper66
    oper66 29 January 2014 11: 39
    +4
    The author’s biography and the fact of the genocide of the Cossacks by Jews from the Central Committee are two different things and no one has yet condemned the acts of Sverdlov and Zemlyachka with Bela Kun and thousands of other commissars who executed the will of cannibals artificially staged not only executions, but also starvation in Russia robbing the country and people
  16. Turkestan
    Turkestan 29 January 2014 12: 08
    +1
    From recent history it is well known that the autocracy used the Cossacks as a brutal police force in the suppression of the First Russian Revolution. And quite successful in this. The rebellious masses of workers, soldiers and peasants appreciated the merits of the autocracy of the Cossack punitive with extreme indignation. Even ataman Krasnov frankly admitted this in a fit of frankness: “The people called us to“ thank ”for this with executioners, guardsmen and nagaecniks” (Don and the Volunteer Army .., p. 45). MAYBE IT SERVED THE REASON FOR STORYTELLING
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 January 2014 12: 16
      -2
      Now in Ukraine, the Golden Eagles acts as Cossacks ... the same specificity was not indignant among the peasants and the proletarians, but those lumpenes who did not want to work and history (9 is not so straightforward) the tsar did not show, so the country didn’t become .. look at Ukraine
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 29 January 2014 13: 26
        +4
        Quote: oper66
        Now in Ukraine, the golden eagles are Cossacks ...

        In, you can see a bird in flight, and a demagogue by comparisons. I compared x .. with a finger! When and where did "Berkut" disperse the starving workers and peasants demanding human relations from the authorities? Maydauns probably demand an 8-hour working day, cancel fines for production and land to the peasants? Maybe show where "Berkut" chops with sabers presumptuous fascists? when people trained to think critically die out, and then start your stuffing.
        1. oper66
          oper66 29 January 2014 13: 45
          -1
          so you don’t think and just write the granddaughter of Ilyich
        2. holderrr
          holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 20
          +2
          Mass media about the Crimean massacre: Ukrainian special forces "gnawed" the heads of the Cossacks, they spat blood in their faces (VIDEO)

          publication time: July 4, 2011 11:35
          last updated: July 4, 2011 14:53
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          Last weekend in Crimea, there was a bloody massacre between Russian Cossacks and Ukrainian special forces "Berkut" and "Tiger"
          The video from the scene captured the moments when the fighters put up a solid wall of shields in front of an old woman in a scarf, who only fears and fears around herself with crosses
          "The fight was long and bloody. About 15 Cossack people were seriously injured - their arms and legs were broken, and their heads were broken."
          Last weekend, a bloody battle took place in Crimea between Russian Cossacks and the Ukrainian special forces "Berkut" and "Tiger". The reason is the Orthodox cross at the entrance to Feodosia. Local authorities demolished it in order to calm the disgruntled Crimean Tatars professing Islam. The Cossacks tried to return the cross to its place. The result is 15 wounded and 10 detained. The media are full of details of the confrontation.

          "The fight was long and bloody. About 15 people from among the Cossacks were seriously injured - their arms and legs were broken, their heads were broken," Sergei Yurchenko from the Council of Atamans of Crimea told Novy Region. According to him, the special forces were waiting for the participants in the procession in full outfit - in helmets, with special equipment, with shields and dogs.

          More than a hundred employees of Berkut and Tiger prevented the Cossacks from restoring the cross, the Ukrainian newspaper Segodnya writes. "Berkut" wrung arms, legs and trampled the heads of the Crimean Cossacks, "- reads its headline. From head to toe, equipped special forces opposed women who cried and were baptized. Http://www.newsru.com/world/04jul2011 /crimeafight.html
      2. Turkestan
        Turkestan 29 January 2014 13: 48
        +1
        You know, when people, the so-called SUCCESSFUL people living at the expense of this people, are called LUMPENS, TAPES, DRINKS, is it any wonder that after a certain period of time this people turns NECK to these successful and VERY educated people
        1. oper66
          oper66 29 January 2014 14: 04
          +2
          dear granddaughter of Ilyich, the lumpenes at all times and in all countries and peoples included declassed elements of society who chose dependency and rage as a way of life, and these are parasites thieves and other criminal element including drunks and drug addicts. And as for the neck, it’s not round in opera, but by the way, I also served in the USSR in the Military Technical School 84-86
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 17
      +1
      You will not understand! Then you write that the Cossacks betrayed the king. You condemn that the oath of faithful remained in 1905. You already decide.
    3. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 11: 36
      +1
      they forgot to write that the "wagons" massively suppressed Jewish pogroms in 1905. For which they were awarded genocide from the grateful saved!
  17. EvilLion
    EvilLion 29 January 2014 12: 55
    -5
    The author, no one in the USSR hated more than the Cossacks. And there was every reason, the Cossacks themselves did not particularly consider themselves Russian, and looked at the peasants in the best case. And it’s not worth it to blame the Cossacks on the civilian, what did they even count on when opposing the government? For enhanced meals and trips to the sanatorium?
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 29 January 2014 13: 37
      +8
      Quote: EvilLion
      The author, no one in the USSR hated more than the Cossacks.
      But nobody likes anyone in the CIS more than Russians, and what can you say, dear?
      And there was every reason

      Quote: EvilLion
      But what did they even expect when opposing the government? For enhanced meals and trips to the sanatorium?
      And what kind of power is it? In the year 18, the authorities were like fleas on a sabak
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 29 January 2014 15: 11
        -4
        But the central authority was one.
        In general, Russians don’t like the whole CIS, for the whole CIS can only steal and rob, and at best work as a janitor.
        1. holderrr
          holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 23
          +1
          And it depends on whom the Center is. For Cossacks, Novocherkassk was the Center.
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 22
      +1
      Against whose power? But why not look down? There were reasons to look like that. How a free warrior should look at stinks. ingratiatingly?
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 29 January 2014 13: 05
    +1
    The author had to print in the perestroika light, the same intensity of revelations, the same hordes of liquid masars with Sverdlov at the head of the genocide of an innocent racist. Although it may have been printed, mastery is felt. You see it straight and surrounded by vicious reds with Sverdlov personally headed, a small but proud state living in peaceful labor, as in the pastoral songs of the noble Cossack Rosenbaum, there is only a crunch of French rolls missing. Here you and the Cossacks tired of the war, understandably no one else in the country fought and was not tired. Here you and the cold, hunger and typhoid, it is clear in the rest of Russia there was nothing like that. Just expose the invoice for occupation.
    Each event has a reason; the author of the reason did not go around intricately. Or does not name, or allegedly it is not interesting, or has nothing to do with what is happening.
    Krasnov and the Cossacks were not going to fight for any unification of Russia. The independent state of the Cossacks was declared. Officially consisting of Cossacks, Kazakhs and Russian farmers. The division is not accidental. The title nation was the Cossacks, they owned everything and they decided everything, everyone else could only work and pay taxes. Pure modern latvia with its "non-citizens" from Russians sends greetings and waves a pen. The first thing that the Cossack state did was to establish diplomatic relations with independent Ukraine and Germany. Germany was asked to assist in the seizure of Taganrog from the Ukrainians and Tsaritsyn from Russia, for which the Germans were promised anything, and to feed and drink and put to sleep. It was because of his communication with Germany that the British did not support Krasnov. After that, several hundred (up to five hundred) of the most frostbitten Cossacks began to participate in the civil war on the side of the whites, the rest hoped to sit out as cover for the Germans or anyone else. And it was the inaction of the Cossacks that helped the Reds fight the Whites. Well, then everything is like in a song. A couple of hundred kilometers to the north of the land-peasants, and here natural corvee, exploitation and landlessness of the majority of the population. All the bar and landowners from the Cossacks are in place, the priests regularly demand their tithes, well, in general, a piece of Russia that we all have lost, only the Russian population has become even more deprived of rights. Well, when Sverdlov personally with millions of Jewish Red Army soldiers entered the territory of this pseudo state, genocide began. Sverdlov personally slaughtered half of the rest, as we are told by numerous descendants of the Cossacks who were cut out in infancy. Some were cut out two or more times. In fact, in the destruction of the slave-owning state of the Cossacks, Sverdlov did not play such a significant role. Who is not too lazy to dig. There, such a kublo from a purely Russian was noted, the hair moves, Sverdlov is the only decent person among them. The majority, by the way, were then personally destroyed by Stalin and Beria, beheading the army and killing the most loyal Leninists who wanted to build another USSR with a human face. And the main role in the "genocide of the Cossacks" was played by the very landless Cossacks and landless "Russian farmers" whom the established regime of government of the Cossack elite brought to the handle, and the appearance of Red units was only a pretext. By the way, Sholokhov wrote about this very well. But of course, the stories about innocent Cossacks with a beautiful soul, destroyed and starved to death by the commissars are much more interesting, the story seems to come alive before our eyes.
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 January 2014 13: 15
      -3
      The first thing that the state of the Cossacks did was to establish deep relations with independent Ukraine and Germany. Germany was asked to assist in the seizure of Taganrog from Ukrainians, but did Ukraine exist as a state then ????? Don’t put on stupidity like fog, at least out of respect for those killed in that meat grinder, Ilyich’s grandchildren are immediately visible
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 29 January 2014 13: 29
        0
        Quote: oper66
        Did Ukraine exist as a state then?
        Yes, you would at least read Wikipedia or something before shame. You can immediately see an intelligent person, I don’t know anything, but I have an opinion. If you are too lazy I’m not too lazy.
        Central Council, March 1917 - April 1918
        Hetmanism P. Skoropadsky April - December 1918.
        Directory December 1918 - end of 1920.
        All together this is the UPR. Or maybe you think in Kiev from 17 to 20 years, the grandchildren of Ilyich ruled? Out of respect for those who died in a meat grinder, maybe you can read something other than Solzhenitsyn and Posner from Svanidze.
        1. oper66
          oper66 29 January 2014 14: 18
          0
          yes, the agitators have treated you well, and to date, Ukraine is not a full-fledged state so a chimera, and if Taganrog belongs to it, it’s such nonsense by geography that it’s probably 1+ that you’re a descendant of Ilyich’s grandchildren
          1. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 29 January 2014 15: 04
            +1
            Well, it's nice to chat with an intelligent person. Rather, it’s nice how much smarter I look against the background of the descendant of Solzhenitsyn’s grandchildren.
            It is clear that the state of the Cossacks is not a chimera, it is generally recognized, it has borders, an army, embassies, it sits in the UN, it is a member of the Security Council, not that there is some kind of Ukrainian chimera up to now. However, do not disgrace yourself, read at least something on the issue. Understandably at school you had no time for books. Maybe now, something like a "revolution for dummies". Although on the other hand you can understand a person, but now because of some kind of grandson of Ilyich, he’s not reading a book, he used to do it and go on for a smart ride.
          2. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 29 January 2014 15: 21
            0
            And on Taganrog "on March 21, 1918, the newly elected CEC of the Soviets of Ukraine moved to Taganrog." This Ukrainian CEC just goes wherever it pleases. Such impudence. Around there is a civil war, but he violates the borders drawn by oper66 and does not teach geography.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 29 January 2014 15: 21
      +1
      Plus for everything, except for this nonsense, which can definitely be printed only in "Ogonyok" Perestroika.

      By the way, the majority later personally destroyed Stalin and Beria, decapitating the army and killing the most faithful Leninists who wanted to build another USSR with a human face.


      These most faithful Leninists knew nothing but how to arrange revolutions, and for many, management experience was limited to a leather jacket, a gun and slogans in civilian fashion, only then they had 20-25, and by the middle of the 30 they had already managed to survive positions to rise as they directed there is a separate song. The purge of the army is insignificant in percentage terms, but the level of command after the arrest of Tukhachevsky only increased, since the civilian nominees were eliminated, some of the lieutenants were generals, and people of the same age who passed all levels of the military hierarchy and in academies took their place unlearned. About nationality is generally something. Only after all these reborn gangs killed each other in the 37, and Beria cleaned up the remains, really Russians took the lead of the country, not half of the Jews and who the hell knows who. Among Tukhachevsky’s accomplices, there was only one Russian, Primakov.
    3. Colonel
      Colonel 29 January 2014 17: 35
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Sverdlov is the only decent person among them.

      If Sverdlov is decent, then who would not ... WHO wanted to build a "USSR with a human face." Share.
      1. 2zz
        2zz 29 January 2014 21: 16
        +1
        I strongly recommend that you read the last book of Solzhenitsyn: "200 Years Together".
    4. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 25
      0
      You re-read red historians, such as Furmanov and other waste paper.
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  19. saygon66
    saygon66 29 January 2014 13: 11
    +1
    - And the Cossacks were firmly "noted" in the history of Russia, if even now at the word "Cossack", "Cossacks" - who already has foam from the mouth! But take a bite, guys, if the Soviet government could not transfer the Cossacks, then nothing will shine for you at all. And to whom the unclouded proletarian hatred does not let sleep - go ahead, to the struggle against capitalist reality!
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 29 January 2014 13: 42
      -1
      We must assume the next descendant of the Cossacks whom the Russians and the Jews translated, translated, but not translated. And now he tells the same descendants, we fought so fought, we were so genocide, so there was no genocide, no one was left, only my great-grandfather was taken root and left by ravines. The most interesting thing is that almost all of the civilian Cossacks sat on the priest exactly and no one touched them, for example, at the end they were already raking in wort, for company, but this is certainly genocide, of course. And a heroic struggle. The most interesting thing is that all the present mummers are also useless for anyone and sit on the priest exactly, but the national revival and self-awareness are still rushing, and the struggle for rights will certainly begin to demand compensation for the occupation and genocide soon. Well, as soon as it smells fried, again on the ass, the back is even and sit like a mouse under a broom, but heroically, of course, with Rosenbaum's patriotic songs, so that there would be something for the descendants to tell about the heroism and memory of their ancestors. Until the Cossacks begin to do what they are supposed to do, they are mummers and cause nothing but laughter. Hello to the descendants.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 29 January 2014 13: 50
        +7
        - That the descendant is so ... And my maternal great-grandfather was buried in the Russian cemetery of Harbin, and my grandfather and grandmother were married there in the Church of Our Lady of Kazan, the same one where General Kappel was buried ... this is the past of my family, and you I offer to spit in him and repent ... It's a shame!
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 29 January 2014 14: 00
          0
          I am very happy for your ancestors to get married where Kappel is buried is undoubtedly heroism and a glorious past and you don’t need to spit on it, but there’s nothing to repent of. What did you personally do to make your descendants proud? Where did you get married? Who is buried there? How was your country doing? Or do you live in China? Let me remind you, through the efforts of your ancestors as well, Harbin is now a Chinese city.
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 29 January 2014 14: 11
            +1
            - They got here ... I don’t argue ... I wasn’t involved, I didn’t leave, I wasn’t, I didn’t quit due to compromising circumstances ... I didn’t get state awards ... As for Harbin, it’s the merit of those who finished off after 45 Russian community of this city, and transferred the city to ideologically close Chinese Communists.
      2. pogodnick
        pogodnick 29 January 2014 14: 09
        0
        Comment of the one who is not sitting on the pope exactly?
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 29 January 2014 15: 23
        -7
        Cossacks are semi-legal gangs on the border. There is no border with constant wars, which means that the Cossacks are not needed.
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 29 January 2014 15: 31
          +6
          - Bravo! The forest, oil and coal in Siberia will end - and the Siberians are not needed, the Non-Chernozem region has fallen - the Yaroslavl and Kostroma citizens are not needed ... And in general, there is no benefit, no benefit from the people: and the people are worthless .... Graraandiozno!
          1. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 29 January 2014 21: 53
            -1
            Yes, it’s absolutely true, everything is determined by benefit. It brings a tuner (hydraulic fracturing, locksmith) a link means it works in a link. It doesn’t bring a kick, ass to men. Men don’t need parasites. They performed border functions, they were needed. They began to perform mainly functions the police and then also fight against the Russians, to their wall.
            1. saygon66
              saygon66 29 January 2014 22: 15
              -2
              - Be so kind as to list the "useless" peoples of Russia ...
            2. pogodnick
              pogodnick 30 January 2014 10: 56
              -1
              And now Russians are not needed - oil and gas can be pumped so. Kick in the ass?
              1. rkkasa xnumx
                rkkasa xnumx 30 January 2014 14: 47
                +1
                Quote: pogodnick
                And now Russians are not needed - oil and gas can be pumped so. Kick in the ass?

                Nothing is produced by itself. Neither gas, nor oil, nor coal. For example, Urals (mine equipment) and Tatars (KAMAZ) and Kuzbass residents participate in coal mining. Thousands of people are engaged in transportation (Russian Railways). Do not forget about Tom
                that our wealth is protected (serving in the army, arming the army, feeding the army) by people from all over the country. Each Russian citizen has the right to his share of oil, gas, coal and not just Kuzbass or New Urengoy residents. Another thing is that the work of a miner, oilman or metallurgist it’s very difficult, often dangerous in and of itself, and besides, we have to live and work in harsher climatic conditions than in the European part of Russia. This must be taken into account when paying for wages, benefits, etc. But this is another question.
                And as for the Cossacks, I repeat, as long as they were essentially border guards, they were needed, their privileges were justified. But over time, the Cossacks' areas of residence ceased to be border territories, they were often trusted to carry out punitive actions against the people (dispersal of working demonstrations, suppression of the hungry riots), during the Civil War, they fought on the side of the interventionists, during the Great Patriotic War the Cossacks served the Germans en masse. The Cossacks first went to the category of parasites and then completely became enemies.
                1. pogodnick
                  pogodnick 30 January 2014 16: 21
                  -1
                  Well, that means those who are not involved in production are not needed. It just turns out in the American way.
          2. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 3 February 2014 16: 34
            0
            Something like this is. A person's value is determined by his economic value.
            But the guys forget that my ancestors were ALWAYS free, and they personally taught me how to fight.
        2. pogodnick
          pogodnick 29 January 2014 15: 34
          0
          There is no war, so the army is not needed.
          1. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 29 January 2014 21: 58
            +2
            The presence of a strong army is just necessary to prevent war.
      4. Kazakh
        Kazakh 29 January 2014 19: 01
        +2
        The most interesting thing is that all the current mummers are also useless for anyone and sit on the priest exactly,
        Can’t you sit on the pope exactly? Can’t it be difficult?
        Quote: chunga-changa
        Until the Cossacks begin to do what they are supposed to do, they are mummers and cause nothing but laughter. Hello to the descendants.

        But when the Russians begin to do what they are supposed to do then they will ask the Cossacks what they did
      5. holderrr
        holderrr 29 January 2014 20: 36
        +1
        I will say in Cossack - You will brechet, dear. You are giving a damn about the Cossacks and about the civil, and so on. Only in the Cossack territories was the most fierce resistance to the communists. And you will have the right to call the mummers when you do something for Russia. I fought in Chechnya as a volunteer from the Cossacks, with Cossack chevrons in uniform. And you? Ermolov Battalion


        In 1996, from the Terek and Kuban Cossacks, the 694th separate motorized rifle battalion was formed, the unofficial name of them. A.P. Ermolova. A significant part of the personnel were Cossacks who went through military operations in Transnistria, Abkhazia, Karabakh, and North Ossetia. During the fighting in Chechnya, the battalion fought under the stanitsa Chervlenoy, Grozny, Achkhoy-Martan, Katyr-Yurt, Old Achkhoy, Orekhovo, Shali, Vedeno, Benoy.
        At the end of the first Chechen war, the regiment was disbanded.
        During the fighting, 27 Cossacks from the battalion died, 262 were wounded and shell-shocked.
        98 Cossacks were awarded government awards (25 posthumously).

        This unit was born to inevitably die after completing the task. It did not in any way fit into the framework of the general military regulations and contradicted all the traditional ideas of "indestructible and legendary." The Cossack battalion named after General Ermolov, in fact, was an experimental unit of mercenaries. However, this definition is also not typical for him, like many others. Monetary incentives for the Yermolovites played a trifling role in comparison with the main idea - the revival of the Cossacks as a real force in the North Caucasus.
        The Ermolovsky battalion was hastily formed at the height of the last Chechen war. Then the press wrote enthusiastically about him. She soon changed pathos to sarcasm, when, after the first battle, several dozen people deserted from the battalion. Vladislav Ivnitsky, a participant in those events, the deputy commander of a reconnaissance platoon, tells about the short, but very difficult path of the first Cossack unit of the new Russia in "Brother".
        The Yermolov battalion was formed in January-February 1996 in the old Cossack village - the city of Prokhladny. Most peasants were from Stavropol, although walkers appeared even from Yakutia. Some have fates - novels can be written. A guy got from the Krasnodar Territory - without money, without things, with one toothbrush in his pocket - to avenge a murdered friend. Our sniper, Ivan Ivanovich, who had once hunted in the taiga, at fifty-five years old, left his grandmother and went to war. Marching chieftain Zhora Tsikin - he ran the market in Bataisk. First he went as a company commander in Transnistria, and then, for ideological reasons, he moved to Chechnya. He died near Grozny ... At first glance, many of the recruits had nothing to do with the war. In fact, about forty percent of Yermolovites already had combat experience. They fled the war to fight in Transnistria, Karabakh, in Ossetia and Ingushetia.
        The Ermolovsky battalion reminiscent of the old, ancient formations of the Cossacks. When the cry rushed and the people rose on a campaign. Not so much in the hope of a robbery as to feel a fighting spirit. Now the Cossacks were about to return the original Russian lands: the Naursky, Shelkovsky and Nadterechny districts, which in 1956 Khrushchev gave to Chechen-Ingushetia. And are they mummers?
        1. pogodnick
          pogodnick 30 January 2014 11: 00
          0
          Yes, he is a slave in essence, hence the "butler" complex. Can't explain this.
  20. Kazakh
    Kazakh 29 January 2014 13: 33
    +5
    Quote: saygon66
    - And the Cossacks were firmly "noted" in the history of Russia, if even now at the word "Cossack", "Cossacks" - who already has foam from the mouth! But take a bite, guys, if the Soviet government could not transfer the Cossacks, then nothing will shine for you at all. And to whom the unclouded proletarian hatred does not let sleep - go ahead, to the struggle against capitalist reality!
    ++++ 1500
  21. bya965
    bya965 29 January 2014 14: 56
    +6
    I am a Cossack by origin and in the way of thinking. I will give the following arguments in defense of the Cossacks (the rest of them can be thought out):
    1. Although the Cossacks are free, they love strict order and firm power, because they are used to fighting.
    2. Russia practically owes its expanses to the Cossacks. They not only knew how to conquer, but also to HOLD the conquered. If it turned out, then we were related to the local population.
    3. The most repressed people (if anyone does not like, let the estate) in the USSR.
    4. ORDER OF THE PEOPLE'S DEFENSE COMMISSIONER OF THE USSR

    No. 061 April 21, 1936 Moscow

    On the renaming of 10, 12, 4, and 6 cavalry divisions into Cossack divisions, on the formation of the 13th Don Cossack division and a separate cavalry brigade of mountain nationalities, and on the establishment of special uniforms for Cossack divisions.
    5. This great Russian man is practically from my small homeland.
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Недорубов,_Константин_Иосиф
    ovich

    5. During the war, combat-ready units consisted mainly of Russians. Attempts to form national units have failed. And the Kuban people were honored to fight with elements of national clothing and the only ones to be in it at the Victory Parade.
  22. Goblin 28
    Goblin 28 29 January 2014 14: 57
    +15
    Do you know why here some hate the Cossacks?
    Envy! My grandfathers and great-grandfathers - the Kuban Cossacks always called themselves Russian Cossacks! And with neglect, they never belonged to anyone! And the fact that they were attracted to restoring order - but what's wrong? What brought the Zionist-foreign revolution of Russia? Give specific figures killed by the Cossacks during the unrest 1905 year?
    What were the faults and what families of my ancestors in the number of 27 people - only on the mother’s side — from the 8 months of birth to the 87 years that your Zionist fighters for the eternal happiness of work were put under a machine gun?
    My paternal great-grandfather, along with other veteran Cossacks who were members of the stanitsa council of the elderly, the Reds shot a wounded man right at the stanitsa Temple — the last frontier of the village’s defense. Old people could not retreat from the temple according to the Cossack tradition. And 60-70 the summer grandfathers did not retreat, the crosses did not take off and did not give up - according to the Russian and Cossack traditions! But the Temple, fighters for the happiness of the people, led by the kind uncle Sverdlov and the sweetest woman Zemlyachka, were immediately burned!
    Yes, on our street, the Cossacks deserved St. George's Crosses for the Caucasian, German and orders for the Patriotic War so much that you never dreamed of !!! What a right you have to throw mud at their memory!
    And we do not moan or cry, but no one dares to blame the Cossacks for their behavior in the Civil! You were not there! Judge not lest ye be judged!
    And you envy that we don’t have Caucasians on the streets, there are no gays, lesbians with their parades, that our boys are happy to go to Cossack classes, to Cossack corps, that we have Cossack patrols on the streets, that we don’t have Venediktov, Gelmanov with the Pozners, the Rain channel and other scum, and we bring flowers not to the victims of the Holocaust and the coup of 91, but to the victims of tumbling and the heroes of the Great Patriotic War!
    Why didn’t you volunteer to fight for Russia in the Chechen wars? And we were going men - from 25 - to 40 years, only because they are descendants of the Cossacks and are members of the Cossack society! And then they gave the money to the monuments to the dead, widows and to the Temple! And we collected money from the soldiers, and food, and things! Everyone carried what he could! Where were you all that are now drooling on your keyboard? Did you listen to Svanidzey with the Hakamads?
    Nobody shouts about Cossack exclusiveness here and we don’t need any rights! Give duties and allow to serve! According to the army regulations and with combat officers! But only to all adult stanichniks, and not snotty conscripts. How our grandfathers served in the line in due time! And order in the Caucasus will be very fast!
    And you, dear Chunga-Changa, organize your movement for a national revival, stand in the front ranks for Russia - mother! And we'll see! Or are you just splashing your tongue? Darling from you somehow rotten carries!
    Ali You are for Sverdlov with his Zionist Schoble!
    Al Holocaust closer to you than the killing of Russian people?
    1. Walking
      Walking 29 January 2014 16: 32
      +4
      He said everything correctly!
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 21: 02
      +2
      Ah, as said! Frost on the skin! Thrice love brother! Glory to Don! Glory to the Kuban and Terek! Glory to the heroes! (Not a bander. - Kuban).
    3. alexandr00070
      alexandr00070 30 January 2014 23: 35
      0
      Quote: Goblin 28
      Envy! My grandfathers and great-grandfathers - the Kuban Cossacks always called themselves Russian Cossacks!

      but he knew about it:

      From November 1932 to January 1933 operations were carried out against 15 villages: 13 Kuban villages: Novorozhdestvenskaya, Temirgoyevskaya, Medvedovskaya, Poltava, Nezamaevskaya, Umanskaya, Ladozhskaya, Urupskaya, Staroderevyankovskaya, Novoderevyankovskaya, Starokorsunskaya, Staroshcherbinovskaya, Platnirovskaya; two Don villages - Meshkovskaya and Bokovskaya. In addition, all trade was completely stopped in nine regions of the region (Nevinnomyssky, Slavic, Ust-Labinsky, Bryukhovetsky, Kushchevsky, Pavlovsky, Kropotkinsky, Novoaleksandrovsky and Labinsky). All foodstuffs were ordered to be taken out of Yeisk, Krasnodar, Kurganinsky, Korenovsky, Otradnensky, Kanevsky, Tikhoretsky, Armavir, Timashevsky, Novopokrovsky districts.
      “In order to defeat the resistance to grain procurements, the Central Committee and the Council of People's Commissars decides to expel to the northern regions of the USSR as soon as possible from the village of Poltava, as the most counter-revolutionary of all residents, with the exception of those who are truly loyal to Soviet power. The population of the villages of Poltava, Medvedovskaya and Urupskaya was completely evicted to the northern regions of the USSR - a total of 45 people.
      These villages were inhabited by families of Red Army soldiers from other regions of the USSR, who also moved (often by order) to many other villages of the region, where they had the right to occupy any house they liked, regardless of whether it was occupied at that time by the previous owners.
      The famine in 1932-1933 in the Kuban and Don was part of the famine that swept the agricultural regions of the USSR.
      The dead were buried in mass graves, which often were not indicated in any way. The exact numbers of the dead are unknown. The population of some villages has not reached the previous population today.
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%B8%F0%ED%FB%E5_%E4%EE%F1%EA%E8

      I just recently accidentally found out, and as some people write, no one is showing power
  23. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 29 January 2014 17: 49
    -7
    It's all about the separatism of the Cossacks. Separatism, small-town nationalism, not the ability to self-organize and the inability to look into the future and led to tragic consequences.
    Having liberated the surroundings from the Reds, stop helping allies, is this not a repetition
    medieval strategy of the times of Stenka Razin. And in the yard was the 20th century.
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 29 January 2014 18: 53
      +1
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      Having liberated the surroundings from the Reds, stop helping allies

      then Shkuro near Moscow was stopped apparently the village he had was in a warm camp wink
      1. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 29 January 2014 19: 00
        -4
        This skin was a general, and the bulk of the Cossacks could not even read.
        1. Kazakh
          Kazakh 29 January 2014 19: 05
          +3
          Do you seriously think that before the Soviet regime, everyone was illiterate? But how did people serve in the Navy in artillery? And sugar from salt was only distinguished by taste. laughing what's the point that some text can be typed on a computer and history only from Svanidze knows this is also illiteracy
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 29 January 2014 22: 28
          +1
          Quote: EdwardTich68
          This skin was a general

          user / EdwardTich68 / typed "skin", with a lowercase letter, obviously wanting to posthumously humiliate Major General Shkuro Andriy Grigorievich, who deserved his title in battles, and not on the floor.
          Quote: EdwardTich68
          and the bulk of the Cossacks could not even read

          And farted again. I give a quote and a link, clean your brains:
          The number of Cossacks who can read and write was previously quite large compared with the peasant provinces of central Russia, but by the beginning of the XNUMXth century it had grown significantly, especially among Cossack youth. (Scientific library of dissertations and abstracts disserCat http://www.dissercat.com/content/vliyanie-modernizatsionnykh-protsessov-na-povse
          dnevnuyu-zhizn-kazachego-naseleniya-yuga-ross # ixzz2roTbVvKX).
          1. EdwardTich68
            EdwardTich68 30 January 2014 01: 18
            -3
            In the Russian Empire, literacy was about 10% of the population.
            1. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru 30 January 2014 05: 39
              +1
              Quote: EdwardTich68
              In the Russian Empire, literacy was about 10% of the population

              Everyone has their own point of view, which is why we exchange comments. Your 10% is again irrelevant. Give by education categories: primary, complete, higher, the dynamics of growth / decline in the level in each category with reference to a specific period - then you can talk about something confidently. By the way, Anna Georgievna, the daughter of Yaroslav the Wise, Prince of Kiev, brought the Gospel to France, on which the kings of France later took the oath: the Reims Gospel (by the way, handwritten, on parchment, written in Cyrillic). The presence of this fact cannot be disputed, but if someone on this fact would try to put forward a version of the "universal illiteracy" of the French of that period, it would be ridiculous. So let's not juggle the numbers.
            2. pogodnick
              pogodnick 30 January 2014 11: 03
              0
              among the slaves it was
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              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 31 January 2014 16: 16
                0
                REPEAT:
                Quote: pogodnick
                among the slaves it was

                How was it, what was it, where was it? It is not clear, however. As for "when" I will answer: until 1723!
                A separate "hello" to the moderators.
        3. holderrr
          holderrr 30 January 2014 11: 44
          0
          incomprehensible argument - Shkuro general, others can not read ... Why, why ???? Umbramkul streaked with stars ...
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 21: 03
      +1
      Ah we know a bad story! Looks like comics.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 29 January 2014 21: 59
      -1
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      small-town nationalism, not the ability to organize

      "small-town nationalism" - this line was taken from the song: "When all the Jewish Cossacks rose up ..."?
      "not the ability to self-organize" - surnames: G.M.Semenov, A.I.Dutov, A.G. Shkuro, have you heard them? They did not join the White movement as generals, but became organizers of the resistance of the Cossacks to the bands of L. Bronshtein.
      1. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 30 January 2014 01: 20
        -3
        Thank God that the people killed your idols because of arrogance and exclusivity, I also wish them their fate.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 30 January 2014 05: 41
          +2
          Quote: EdwardTich68
          people killed your idols

          Did Ramon Mercader finish off your idol?
        2. holderrr
          holderrr 30 January 2014 11: 55
          0
          Try to kill us, keyboard warrior! We already hid in caches, having heard the terrible news that EdwardTich68 Himself was going to the Don war! Do not make people laugh Edward. By God, how small.
    4. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 11: 43
      +1
      Cossacks didn’t live in places; they confused my friend, Cossack’s and alien concepts to you. Cossacks never had allies. As the old Cossack song says - You, Cossack Cossacks, military people,
      Military people, nobody loves you.
  24. holderrr
    holderrr 29 January 2014 18: 47
    +3
    Quote: baltika-18
    Quote: ICE
    Better, deeper and truer this period of the history of the Cossack region is described in the Quiet Don of Sholokhov

    Perhaps the author of this article uses a traditional recipe: take 50% of the truth and 50% of the lie, mix everything thoroughly, season it all with religious sauce, in accordance with the fashion of the day. The dish is ready, you can serve, hawala. The cheesecake has divorced more than the locksmiths .


    Because of some scribblers and lies, Cossacks and Cossacks were afraid to talk about their roots until the 2000s, and many do not even have photos of their ancestors, which they destroyed during the talk, so that no one would know about the Cossack roots. I am ashamed, my friend, not knowing the Cossack history to write nonsense and mocking at the millions of dead Cossacks. Thank God that we are Cossacks!
  25. Black
    Black 29 January 2014 18: 57
    +3
    Article- love !!!!
    My grandmother recalled ... In the spring of 18, Mironov came to the village with two comrades (he came secretly, fearing - he was literally hunting). Many in the village were his odnuma on the imperialist. That same evening, in a circle, the Cossacks, fully trusting Mironov, enrolled in the Red Army. The village poured into the Mironovsky corps more than 250 sabers.
    And in the spring of 19 on the Maidan near the Church of the Nativity of Christ the village old men were shot, EVERYTHING IS ONE !!! (Cossacks know who it is), about 20 Cossacks were shot, and several Cossacks.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 21: 05
      0
      Eternal memory to all innocently killed Cossack martyrs! And their curse to the executioners and their descendants.
  26. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 29 January 2014 20: 39
    0
    in my understanding, the extermination of the Cossacks was a completely logical villainy. it was the elimination of competition. the fact is that in Russia the ability to raise a serious rebellion (revolution) was possessed and possessed only by national minorities, because Russians are still loyal to the state, even to the most stupid (Cossacks, after all, are neither Russians nor Ukrainians, but a separate ethno-social group ... were). Russian rebellion is a fairy tale, it never happened, it was only because of small things that we were bored. major uprisings - Razin, Bulavinsky, Pugachevsky - these are Cossacks, Tatars, Bashkirs.
    the Bolshevik revolution - Jews, Caucasians, Balts. here the Jews and "cleaned out" the competitors.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 29 January 2014 21: 09
      +1
      And notice how the Cossacks fought against the Tsar, so these are "peasant" wars. As against the Bolsheviks, so are the counter-revolutionary actions of the White Cossacks. All wars against tsarism were led by the Cossacks, the main military force was the Cossacks. Only the numerical strength of the rebels was deprived of the Cossacks, immediately followed by defeat. In the civil war, the Cossacks in battle passed through the Red Army soldiers like butter with a knife. And only if the red and white Cossacks collided, then the battle was on an equal footing.
    2. pogodnick
      pogodnick 30 January 2014 11: 08
      0
      But it is. And how to clean it is written in great detail in the Old Testament.
  27. 2zz
    2zz 29 January 2014 21: 31
    -1
    Gentlemen, comrades ,,, I am a Nazi muzzle, s, etc .: I strongly recommend reading the last book of Solzhenitsyn: "200 years together."
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 29 January 2014 21: 45
      0
      Quote: 2zz
      Gentlemen, comrades ,,, I am a Nazi face, etc.


      ?? winked
    2. saygon66
      saygon66 29 January 2014 21: 56
      +1
      “So that's it, heartfelt?”
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 29 January 2014 22: 10
      +2
      Quote: 2zz
      I recommend reading the latest book by Solzhenitsyn: "200 Years Together".

      I read the indicated two volumes. It is a pity thrown out to the wind 350 rubles! With the same interest you can read the telephone directory of Birobidzhan. Thank God that this was his last book! Number in z-zu to all his admirers.
  28. Black
    Black 29 January 2014 22: 23
    +1
    There are a lot of letters. And there’s a lot of horror in them. But to familiarize with those who do not know it is beneficial.

    Order No. 01721 (under the heading “secret”), signed by A. Medvedev, temporarily acting commander of the Caucasian Labor Army:

    “... Member of the PBC Kavfrontov. Ordzhonikidze ordered: the first - Art. Kalinovskaya burn; the second - the villages of Yermolovskaya, Zakan-Yurtovskaya, Samashkinskaya, Mikhailovskaya - to give to the poorest landless population and, first of all, always former devotees of the Soviet authorities to the upland Chechens: for which purpose, the entire male population of the above-mentioned villages from 18 to 50 years old should be put in trains and sent to the North under guard, for heavy forced labor; old people, women and children to be evicted from the villages, allowing them to move to farms or villages to the North; horses, cows, sheep and other livestock, as well as equipment suitable for military purposes, to transfer to the Kavtrudarmariya - to its appropriate authorities, and to distribute horses according to the instructions of the Front Headquarters. Pursuant to the aforementioned order I ORDER:

    The first one. The command of the Nadterechny Line and the Food Commander Skudra to appoint a commission chaired by the General Staff of the Group of Comrade. Gegechkori, composed of two members, at its discretion, which: immerse the entire male population from 18 to 50 years into the echelons and send to Grozny under escort for further direction to the North for forced labor; to evict the rest of the population to farms and villages no closer than 50 miles to the north and west of Kalinovskaya; all cattle, carts, bread and fodder, as well as property suitable for military purposes, should be taken out, after which they will burn the Kalinovskaya village. From the number of property taken from Kalinovskaya, I authorize you to leave what is really necessary for the parts of the group, and to send everything else and all horses to Grozny at my disposal. The second one. The head of the political department and special department and the chairman of the Army Revolutionary Tribunal should be assigned one responsible representative for appointment as members of the commission for carrying out repressive measures against the rebel villages of the Sunzhenskaya line. I appoint Pomnacharma comrade as the chairman of the indicated commission. Okushka. I entrust the direct execution of the order with the commission. Ordzhonikidze, for which I urge the entire male population of the villages (Ermolovskaya, Zakan-Yurtovskaya, Romanovskaya, Samashkinskaya, Mikhailovskaya) from 18 to 50 years old to load it in trains and supply them with the appropriate documents, send them to the North, no closer than Rostov-on-Don to the concentration camp; the rest of the population to be evicted in farms and villages beyond the river. Terek; pick up all the horses, carts and equipment suitable for the military from the aforementioned villages and send to Grozny at my disposal, transfer livestock, food and forage to the representatives of Ordzhonikidze. The Commission is presented with the rights of the extraordinary judicial body to carry out the aforementioned measures, the stanitsa (Ermolovskaya, Zakan-Yurtovskaya, Romanovskaya, Samashkinskaya, Mikhailovskaya) to make available to the commissions allocated by me and the Grozny and Chechen executive committees for transfer to the mountain population. The third. Nachoblezheldor comrade Efremov to take over the general leadership on the conduct of repressive measures against Ermolovskaya, Zakan-Yurtovskaya, Romanovskaya, some Samashka, Mikhailovskaya, presenting the armed forces to the commission and by all means render it the necessary assistance. Fourth. Pre-Food Comrade Piven set aside his responsible representatives for export from the villages of cattle, food, and fodder named in the previous paragraph. Fifth. Nachotdela military transport comrade Blinov is concerned about providing the commission with the required number of rolling stock. Sixth. All commanders and commissars should declare to the entire Cossack population that henceforth for any encroachment on the Soviet power, even for attempts to rebel, they will be subjected to the same repressions. Seventh. This order I permit to announce to the units of Comrade Comrade Skudra and Efremov. ”
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 30 January 2014 11: 59
      +1
      Black
      Where did this come from?
      And why is it presented in this form, without explanation, why at that time, in those conditions, these or those decisions were made?
      All links lead either to the Live Journal, then to LiveJournal, then to Pavlov and Siyansky, the conclusion is not that it would be a complete lie, but DEZA, launched into society, so that the society fights with each other.
      Why don’t you remember about Order 36, the restoration of the Cossack units?
      Why don’t you remember about the Red Cossacks? Is it not in the housing community all the time to yell about the Bely, like the supposedly guardians of Russia?
      And the participation of the SS Cossacks of Krasnov, where did they do it? Was it offended to see, wasn’t it? So there were about 50 offended, with all their children, they got together, the rest fought in the Red Army and fought well, driving the Nazis into a coffin.
  29. Black
    Black 29 January 2014 22: 29
    0
    From the instructions of the Donburo:

    “In order to eliminate the Cossack counter-revolution as soon as possible and to prevent possible uprisings, the Donburo proposes to carry out the following through the appropriate Soviet institutions: 1) In all the villages and farms, immediately arrest all prominent representatives of this village or farm who enjoy any authority, although not involved in counter-revolutionary actions , and send as hostages to the district revolutionary tribunal. (Those who have been convicted, according to the directive of the Central Committee, must be shot.) 2) When issuing an order to surrender a weapon, declare that, if at the expiration of the indicated period someone finds weapons, not only the owner of the weapon will be shot, but also several hostages. 3) In no case may the composition of the revolutionary committee include persons of a Cossack rank, non-communists. Responsibility for violation of this responsibility lies with the district committee and the organizer of the local revolutionary committee.
    4) Compile lists of all escaped Cossacks across the villages under the responsibility of the revolutionary committees (the same applies to fists) and, without exception, arrest and forward them to the district tribunals, where the death penalty should be applied. ”

    Partarchive of the Rostov Region (PARO), f. 12, on. 23, d. 51, l. eleven
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 30 January 2014 12: 08
      0
      Private letters of the time, illustrated by military censorship, to some extent reveal the attitude of the population towards white and red. The peasants hesitated and poorly perceived both of them. People did not want to fight, they were forcibly mobilized, provoked by cruelties [249]. “We had an order to go to military service, but in the village they say:“ What are we going to fight for, against whom, against each other and brother against brother? ”“ - they wrote from the Smolensk province in August 1919 [250] The Don Ataman, General P.N. Krasnov wrote about the atrocities of the Red Army, who shot captive Cossacks, who tortured and raped the inhabitants of the villages. He claimed that not a single “captured Bolshevik was executed without trial. But the Cossacks themselves ensured that the court did not give mercy to the commissars ... It was, in the full sense of the word, a people's war. ” But here is another testimony: “Everything is bad, but worse there is no Cossack whip. She spares no one - neither old nor small. The Cossacks did not give us any food, but took away our clothes, not only did they rob, but we had to carry it ourselves without a penny (payment), if you do not take it, then to a field court. Many civilians were shot, not only men, but also women, as well as children. They cut off their legs and hands, gouged out their eyes, ”wrote from Novouzensk district of the Samara province on July 20, 1919,“ We ​​need to hang them left and right, ”the ataman A. M. Kaledin called. And he regretted that “there is no strength for this” [251]. It was not a people's war. It was the extermination of fellow citizens. It was a popular, nationwide tragedy where, in the cruelty of action, each side showed itself in the worst possible way.
      In the historiography of the civil war, there is an opinion that it was a political war, that politicians led the red ones, and the military led the white ones, that the battles were then waged “not between democracy and authoritarianism, but between two completely different authoritarian political camps that could oppose powerful armies to each other” [ 252]. So it was in 1919-1920. But the civil war began with a clash of opposing politicians, when Lenin proposed dictatorship to preserve a united Russia, and former members of the Constituent Assembly - parliamentarism. Therefore, the question is about something else, about the rapid defeat in Russia of the beginnings of democracy, about the support by the population of one form or another of a stabilization dictatorship, albeit with clearly mafia, cruel features. The Bolsheviks were quicker to organize themselves, reinforcing the policy of war communism with unconventional ideological principles, ruthless terror and utopian promises.

      The first big upsurge of mass terror occurred in the summer - at the beginning of the fall of 1918. At that time, Lenin determined the East front, on the Volga, where the formed Red Army fought on the one hand, and the legionnaires of the Czechoslovak Corps and the People’s Comuch Army on the other [253 ]. Among the participants in the civil war, historians distinguish several groups: supporters of a parliamentary or limited monarchy; adherents of the democratic ideas of the February Revolution and defenders of the dictatorship of the proletariat, they also talk about the state character of the Red Terror and the artisanal White Terror [254], somehow forgetting that the anti-Bolshevik forces occupied vast territories of the country and declared themselves as sovereign governmental state formations . There is a moral aspect to this classification of terror: its innocent victims did not care which one they died from.

      V.K. Volsky, chairman of Samara Komuch, later admitted: “The committee acted dictatorially, its power was firm ... cruel and terrible. This was dictated by the circumstances of the civil war. Having taken power in such conditions, we had to act, and not retreat before the blood. And there is a lot of blood on us. We are deeply aware of this. We could not escape it in a fierce struggle for democracy. We had to create a security department, on which the security service was lying, the same emergency and almost worse. "
  30. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 29 January 2014 23: 07
    +1
    Personally, I, too, do not reproach others, I do not boast that my two great-grandfathers died in World War I. Two grandfathers died in the Fatherland. My father grew up an orphan. I served in the Navy. Neither they nor I disgraced my kind and lived honestly. If you blamed for anything, he demolished it normally, but when in my presence we allowed ourselves laudatory odes like: here we are Jews, Tatars, Armenians, and so on. I always infuriated me. But they told me well, you’re offended by a Cossack peasant, you not ours. If this happened in my house, I told the person that I don’t want to know him anymore. And I put an end to such a friend. I think it all starts with this: we are mountaineers, and the rest is worse than you, we are Armenians, and what are you better than Russian, well, etc. I believe that when the Circassian tells me you are real Russian, I want to give you a rifle and leather traditionally trousers as a sign of respect. Or I say to Moldova, a Georgian, a Chechen, a mordvin my house is always open for you. This is really very rare. And I always keep my word and always glad to such guests. And I completely agree with Leshiy 28.
  31. pawel57
    pawel57 29 January 2014 23: 29
    +3
    He was at Cossack gatherings of non-registered Cossacks. Consider themselves people. True, not everyone drinks. My grandfather fought with them, took Novocherkassk and partisan on the Don. My father did not like them, somehow I was also not very. The Russians are blamed for everything and in all their troubles, Krasnov is a hero. Let the Cossacks remember how they suppressed workers ’performances, atrocities during the civil war, organized gangs in the 20-30s, ran to the German during World War II and atrocities in Russian and Yugoslav villages. Yes, not all, 2 to 50, and this was perfectly described by Sholokhov. Whoever has not forgotten how to read read Quiet Don, Virgin Soil Upland, Don Stories. On television, Cossacks are openly inciting Russians and those fools are mostly doing this. Only one Russian people can be an ally of the Cossacks, not the Caucasus. As soon as they finish the Russian Cossacks, there will be no place on their land. In general, they talk a lot, it would be better if they replaced migrants and all kinds of Caucasian bandits and showed themselves in business. In Rostov, whole buildings under them and registry buildings receive money for nothing from the budget. To honor, Vodolatsky was engaged in the formation of the Cossack and that is, anti-Russian heel. While the Cossacks are clearly losing the Don and only stinging, the Chechens are wiping their feet on them.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 26
      +2
      I am always interested when non-Cossacks talk about the Cossacks: - "It would be better to put things in order, here Chechens wipe their feet, etc." Before decossackization, there were 43% of us in the Don, now about 16%. By your prayers, by the way! It turns out such a parsley: - You do not love us, you destroyed us, there are more of you, but we should put things in order, not you. And you look from the outside, and then again you will say - well, the animals, these Cossacks bandits. Ah well done, oh and love to rake in the heat with your Cossack hands. Lubo!
      1. pawel57
        pawel57 30 January 2014 15: 30
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        Yes, you just thump and shout about your military merits. With your hands, the heat has never and no one has raked. You could not even keep Azov without the Russian Tsar and surfaced, and then shout about the great sitting and your heroism. Russian squeezed out of the Caucasus, where are your Terek Cossacks? Why did the Cossacks not intercede for their own in Chechnya? You are without Russia, and in particular Russian, no one. The Russians lost in civil wars, revolutions, dispossession, 2 more of your world, snot as you do not let. The Russians are trying to unite and fight back the invaders, and instead of your help, the Cossack mutton bleating about the genocide and dominance of the Russians. Who is stopping you from having large families? You were genocidal not only by Jews and Russians, but they themselves did not spare each other. They pulled on themselves colonel epaulettes and stripes with obscure regalia, we are the masters of the Don. Earn (not everyone knows a lot of good warriors) at first with deeds. They give you money from the budget so that they would thump and do nothing. And still you don’t want to oppose the Caucasian dominance. On the contrary, they protect their markets even though they have an example of Azeris when driving to Rostov. Wipe the snot and do anything.
        1. pogodnick
          pogodnick 30 January 2014 16: 30
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          Yes, practically there were neither those Cossacks nor those Russians. Sense to try on the glory of ancestors? The article was about the past.
          Quote: pawel57
          Why in the Chechen Republic the Cossacks did not intercede for their
          - why the Russians do not intercede - at first they made everyone Soviet, and now people generally look at each other with a wolf.
    2. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 30 January 2014 12: 11
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      But actually ... Samara, June 8, 1918, the day of the capture of the city by legionnaires and Komuchevists. On this very first day, the chairman of the revolutionary tribunal F. I. Vensek, the head of the housing department of the city executive committee I. I. Shtyrkin, the popular proletarian poet and playwright, locksmith A. S. Konikhin, the communist workers Abas Aleev, E I. Bakhmutov, I. G. Tezikov, a member of the youth agitation group Ya. M. Dlugolensky, an employee of the Red Army formation collegium, Schulz, the Red Guard Maria Wagner and others. He paid with his life for trying to help the wounded Red Army worker P. D. Romanov. On the same day, more than 100 captured by the Red Army and Red Guards were shot. Armed patrols, on instructions from the crowd, shot people suspected of Bolshevism right on the street. Order No. 3 of Komuch proposed that all persons suspected of participating in the Bolshevik uprising be brought to the headquarters of the city’s security guard, and 66 people were immediately arrested “on suspicion of Bolshevism” [259].

      Simbirsk, July 26, 1918, a death letter from I. V. Krylov, chairman of the Revolutionary Tribunal, from prison to his wife about children: “I love them madly, but life turned out differently” [260]. He was also a Bolshevik, and he was not the only one in Simbirsk who was shot by position and party affiliation.

      Kazan was captured by the Komchevtsy and legionnaires on August 6, 1918. Terror immediately swept the city. P. G. Smidovich shared his impressions: “It was a truly rampant revelry of the winners. Mass executions of not only responsible Soviet workers, but also everyone who was suspected of recognizing the Soviet government, were carried out without trial, and the corpses were lying on the street all day long ”[261]. A. Kuznetsov, an eyewitness: “On Rybnoryadskaya Street,” he recalled, “I also saw the first victims of the battle — the gloriously lost defenders of these barricades. The first - a sailor, strong, strong, arms spread wide, lying on the sidewalk. He was all disfigured. In addition to gunshot wounds (the White Guards fired explosive bullets), there were bayonet and traces of blows to the head with a butt. Part of the face pressed in, typing the butt. It was clearly visible that the wounded were brutally killed ... It was like a feast of savages, celebrating a feast on the corpses of the vanquished ”[262].

      Colonel Rouenet, who joined the Bolsheviks with the soldiers, Ya. S. Sheinkman, chairman of the provincial council and committee of the RCP (b), commissar of the Tatar-Bashkir commissariat under the People’s Commissariat of the RSFSR and chairman of the Central Muslim Military College, member of the Constituent Assembly Mullanur Vakhitov, became victims of Komuchev’s terror, the head of the Bondyuzh Bolsheviks and the first chairman of the Yelabuga district Council of Deputies S. N. Gassar, the Commissioner of Justice of Kazan M. I. Mezhlauk, the representative of the Samara party organization Haya Khatae HIV, the organizers of the labor squads brothers Egor and Konstantin Petryaev, a trade union worker A. P. Komlev and many others.
      1. alexandr00070
        alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 58
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        Quote: vladkavkaz
        Smidovich shared his impressions

        this phrase alone devalued your material to zero, it would have been some kind of Ivanov, and then SMIDOVICH, and what else will he write that his friend "kosher" Sverdlov issued an order to destroy the Cossacks, and they fought back and killed their murderers, ayay what bad the Cossacks could not wait to be killed

        “In order to defeat the resistance to grain procurements, the Central Committee and the Council of People's Commissars decides to expel to the northern regions of the USSR as soon as possible from the village of Poltava, as the most counter-revolutionary of all residents, with the exception of those who are truly loyal to Soviet power. The population of the villages of Poltava, Medvedovskaya and Urupskaya was completely evicted to the northern regions of the USSR - a total of 45 people.
        These villages were inhabited by families of Red Army soldiers from other regions of the USSR, who also moved (often by order) to many other villages of the region, where they had the right to occupy any house they liked, regardless of whether it was occupied at that time by the previous owners.
        The famine in 1932-1933 in the Kuban and Don was part of the famine that swept the agricultural regions of the USSR.
        The dead were buried in mass graves, which often were not indicated in any way. The exact numbers of the dead are unknown. The population of some villages has not reached the previous population today.
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%B8%F0%ED%FB%E5_%E4%EE%F1%EA%E8

        so it’s only for the breakdown of grain procurements and in 1933, for several years of peaceful life it was and take off like this
        and yet this
        --- Chairman of the Provincial Council and the Committee of the RCP (B.) J. S. Sheinkman

        - representative of the Samara party organization Khaya Khataevich
        - First Chairman of the Yelabuga County Council of Deputies S. N. Gassar
        --- Worker of the board for the formation of the Red Army Schulz, Red Guard Maria Wagner

        some kind of hotbed, and which Cossack wouldn’t want to work as a saber here
    3. alexandr00070
      alexandr00070 30 January 2014 23: 27
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      Quote: pawel57
      He was at Cossack gatherings of non-registered Cossacks.

      I was also on a gathering at the chief of the district, prayers, chants, distributed material for introduction to schools, I read the commandments (written) of the Cossacks

      -I am the Lord thy God; may you have no other gods before My face.
      -Do not make yourself an idol and no image of what is in the sky above, what is on the earth below, and what is in the water below the earth. Do not worship them and do not serve them; for I am the Lord, your God, a jealous God, who punishes children for the guilt of the fathers to the third and fourth [kind], who hate Me, and doeth mercy to a thousand generations to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
      -Don't pronounce the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not leave without punishment the one who pronounces His name in vain.
      -Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Work six days, and do all your work; and the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God: do not do anything about it, neither your son, nor your daughter, nor your slave, nor your slave, nor your cattle, nor the stranger who is in your dwellings. For in six days he created - the Lord heaven and earth, the sea and all that is in them; and on the seventh day he rested. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
      “Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be prolonged in the land which the Lord your God gives you.”
      -Dont kill.
      -Don't commit adultery.
      -Don't steal.
      -Do not bear false witness against your neighbor.
      -Do not wish your neighbor's house; do not desire your neighbor’s wife, nor his slave, nor his slave, nor his ox, nor his ass, anything that is thy neighbor’s.

      asked the local chieftain a question, but did he know that these are Old Testament i.e. given to the Jews for execution, you understand I say that you yourself can’t explain why the commandment is Saturday, how do you explain it to young people ........ in short put the ataman at a standstill, which he said after much deliberation, - I know that there is someone up there, and the rest is not important to me
  32. rezident
    rezident 29 January 2014 23: 46
    -3
    The Soviets needed order, why would they tolerate all kinds of breeding grounds for liberties. And the white generals were extremely dissatisfied with their discipline. In fact, ordinary bandits. As a result, a disciplined red army came and dispersed this rabble. There is a true deeply spiritual meaning that the evil done by their ancestors returned to the heads of their great-grandchildren and these heads almost completely deprived them.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 30
      +1
      List the evil done by our ancestors. Participation in all the wars that Russia has waged since the 16th century? Protecting the borders of the Empire for centuries? Joining lands to the Empire? Acts of Khabarov, Okhotnikov, Ermak, Platov, Orlov-Denisov, Baklanov, Dezhnev? I can continue, the Cossacks have a glorious and long history. And you can objectively clearly and reasonably object?
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 47
      +1
      Yes, white generals are used to dealing with wordless soldiers, just a little in the face. And here you can’t wave your hands with the Cossacks. And as for the fighting qualities, here you are my friend deceiving, there were no equal to the Cossacks!
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 30 January 2014 12: 17
        +1
        holderrr (1
        Grandfather was a Cossack, father is a Cossack son, and you are nice, do not judge, horseradish, Cossack saying.
        1. alexandr00070
          alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 51
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          Quote: vladkavkaz
          Grandfather was a Cossack, father is a Cossack son, and you are nice, do not judge, horseradish, Cossack saying.

          Cherkess remembered blood feud
  33. 26rus
    26rus 30 January 2014 00: 50
    +3
    I see that many here have knowledge of the Cossacks, like the French had in 1814. Someone heard something, and some even saw it, they are terrible animals with bear heads, with daggers in their hands, and they feed on babies!
  34. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 30 January 2014 01: 23
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    Speaking against the people, they themselves signed a sentence, history judged in fairness, who is right, who is to blame.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 21
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      The story is not over yet. Early rejoice!
    2. holderrr
      holderrr 30 January 2014 10: 33
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      Cossacks did not speak out against their people, they defended it from your Red-bellied-international rabble, savages and executioners. Little, oh how little the Cossacks hung! Now there would be order in Russia and we would not see such vile comments.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 30 January 2014 11: 29
        +1
        I believe in the revival of the Cossacks with the best traditions, no matter what it is for us! The path to revival is difficult and thorny, but the Cossacks will rise! We will clear the grains of chaff, we will serve by faith and truth of Russia and the Cossacks!
        1. alexandr00070
          alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 49
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          Quote: RUSS
          I believe in the revival of the Cossacks with the best traditions, no matter what it is for us! The path to revival is difficult and thorny, but the Cossacks will rise! We will clear the grains of chaff, we will serve by faith and truth of Russia and the Cossacks!

          A cool but unreal appeal
          “In order to defeat the resistance to grain procurements, the Central Committee and the Council of People's Commissars decides to expel to the northern regions of the USSR as soon as possible from the village of Poltava, as the most counter-revolutionary of all residents, with the exception of those who are truly loyal to Soviet power. The population of the villages of Poltava, Medvedovskaya and Urupskaya was completely evicted to the northern regions of the USSR - a total of 45 people.
          These villages were inhabited by families of Red Army soldiers from other regions of the USSR, who also moved (often by order) to many other villages of the region, where they had the right to occupy any house they liked, regardless of whether it was occupied at that time by the previous owners.
          The famine in 1932-1933 in the Kuban and Don was part of the famine that swept the agricultural regions of the USSR.
          The dead were buried in mass graves, which often were not indicated in any way. The exact numbers of the dead are unknown. The population of some villages has not reached the previous population today.
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%B8%F0%ED%FB%E5_%E4%EE%F1%EA%E8

          Siberians, Urals, etc. live on the site of the former Cossacks. whom to revive, disguised nonresidents, Tatars refugees who arrived from Tajikistan were recorded in our Cossacks — the restoration of the Cossacks is our governor’s favorite toy, a farce for budget money, it takes millions of rubles that could be invested in social programs, and he’s uniform pulls and walks
      2. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 30 January 2014 12: 15
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        This SS Cossack Krasnova-did not speak out against the people?
        These are the monkeys Shkuro, didn’t speak out against the People? These are the bandits of Mamantov, didn’t speak out against the people?
        Read the memoirs of Denikin and Wrangel, it is clearly stated what kind of robbery and violence the Cossacks of these white freaks were incited by the population of the regions of Russia, one train with looted-40 versts was stretched.
        Chatterboxes, nests of the freak Vodolatsky, who is building monuments of the SS scum ...
        1. pawel57
          pawel57 30 January 2014 15: 42
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          support
        2. alexandr00070
          alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 34
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          Quote: vladkavkaz
          This SS Cossack Krasnova-did not speak out against the people?
          These are the monkeys Shkuro, didn’t speak out against the People? These are the bandits of Mamantov, didn’t speak out against the people?

          I would look at your behavior when you shot the whole family, take away grain and food. how would you relate to the authorities, what would you tell them, because I hope (judging by the nickname) the blood vengeance from the Circassian does not say in your statements Cossack.
      3. holderrr
        holderrr 30 January 2014 16: 03
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        Minus my comment is another confirmation that the civil war is not over. The site is teeming with descendants of Leiba Bronstein, red-bellied and Russophobic liberals of all stripes. Sorry for the frankness. We decided to call a spade a spade.
        1. alexandr00070
          alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 39
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          Quote: holderrr
          Minus my comment is another confirmation that the civil war is not over. The site is teeming with descendants of Leiba Bronstein, red-bellied and Russophobic liberals of all stripes. Sorry for the frankness. We decided to call a spade a spade.

          yeah their skate suppression of dissent at any cost, driving a person in a strict framework, to dose the amount of freedom, and if something goes wrong ........ at a cost ......
      4. alexandr00070
        alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 42
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        Quote: holderrr
        Cossacks did not speak out against their people, they defended it from your Red-bellied-international rabble

        they were faithful to the oath, like the same "Berkut" in Ukraine, by the way, the descendants of real Cossacks
    3. pogodnick
      pogodnick 30 January 2014 11: 16
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      Apparently the collapse of the USSR is also true then.
    4. alexandr00070
      alexandr00070 30 January 2014 11: 48
      +2
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      Speaking against the people, they themselves signed a sentence, history judged in fairness, who is right, who is to blame.

      judged it judged, but how do you like it 1932

      Black boards, a synonym - boards of shame - an element of propaganda work in the USSR in the 1920s - 1930s [1]; were lists published in the newspaper. During the period of collectivization in the USSR, they were universally applied with the aim of psychological and administrative pressure on villages and villages that did not fulfill food delivery plans or did not fulfill them in full.
      Listing the “black board” - as opposed to the “red board” (“board of honor”) meant imposing sanctions for perpetrators (from depriving bonuses, imposing fines by food to direct repression - deportation, forced labor, execution), and for the rest - as a measure intimidation. Both individuals and entire collectives, settlements and entire areas were entered into these lists.
      In agriculture, the late 1920s - early 1930s. its application implied a refusal to supply goods or its restriction, as well as other methods of economic impact on those listed on the blackboard. Such entry was valid until the fulfillment by the "debtors" of agricultural supply plans in the required volume.
      From November 1932 to January 1933 operations were carried out against 15 villages: 13 Kuban villages: Novorozhdestvenskaya, Temirgoyevskaya, Medvedovskaya, Poltava, Nezamaevskaya, Umanskaya, Ladozhskaya, Urupskaya, Staroderevyankovskaya, Novoderevyankovskaya, Starokorsunskaya, Staroshcherbinovskaya, Platnirovskaya; two Don villages - Meshkovskaya and Bokovskaya. In addition, all trade was completely stopped in nine regions of the region (Nevinnomyssky, Slavic, Ust-Labinsky, Bryukhovetsky, Kushchevsky, Pavlovsky, Kropotkinsky, Novoaleksandrovsky and Labinsky). All foodstuffs were ordered to be taken out of Yeisk, Krasnodar, Kurganinsky, Korenovsky, Otradnensky, Kanevsky, Tikhoretsky, Armavir, Timashevsky, Novopokrovsky districts.
      “In order to defeat the resistance to grain procurements, the Central Committee and the Council of People's Commissars decides to expel to the northern regions of the USSR as soon as possible from the village of Poltava, as the most counter-revolutionary of all residents, with the exception of those who are truly loyal to Soviet power. The population of the villages of Poltava, Medvedovskaya and Urupskaya was completely evicted to the northern regions of the USSR - a total of 45 people.
      These villages were inhabited by families of Red Army soldiers from other regions of the USSR, who also moved (often by order) to many other villages of the region, where they had the right to occupy any house they liked, regardless of whether it was occupied at that time by the previous owners.
      The famine in 1932-1933 in the Kuban and Don was part of the famine that swept the agricultural regions of the USSR.
      The dead were buried in mass graves, which often were not indicated in any way. The exact numbers of the dead are unknown. The population of some villages has not reached the previous population today.
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%B8%F0%ED%FB%E5_%E4%EE%F1%EA%E8
    5. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 January 2014 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      Speaking against the people, they themselves signed a sentence

      Speaking against the "chosen people" you probably mean? Yes, from the content of the article it follows that it was a "gig" g from the "chosen people"!
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      history judged in fairness who is right, who is to blame

      The instrument of just retribution was JV Stalin, who "cleaned up" the ranks of the Trotskyists. In this he was right. And guilty are the monsters who unleashed a bloody civil war, whose descendants still do not want to admit the guilt of the "chosen people."
      1. alexandr00070
        alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 23
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        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        The instrument of just retribution was JV Stalin, who "cleaned up" the ranks of the Trotskyists. In this he was right. And guilty are the monsters who unleashed a bloody civil war, whose descendants still do not want to admit the guilt of the "chosen people."

        "chosen people" is a part of any government in any country and you want our rulers to admit some kind of guilt, even now it is more convenient for them to throw the blame on Stalin, on the communists
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  36. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 30 January 2014 18: 22
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    Yes, now the Cossacks walk with whips and with grandfather's orders, and there is nothing more they can do than to gag and thump. The North Caucasus has already taken all their land. Soon it will only be sitting in its yard
    1. alexandr00070
      alexandr00070 30 January 2014 22: 28
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      Quote: Starshina wmf
      Yes, now the Cossacks walk with whips and with grandfather's orders, and there is nothing more they can do than to gag and thump. The North Caucasus has already taken all their land. Soon it will only be sitting in its yard

      not grandfathers, for them there are special shops with medals, from there both uniforms and medals, plus state support, in the Kuban they also receive a salary of 27000, 30000 for going and receiving a uniform, and pray for power, because stories don’t know
    2. pogodnick
      pogodnick 31 January 2014 09: 00
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      however, like the Russians
  37. tundra
    tundra 31 January 2014 21: 25
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    Do you know why here some hate the Cossacks?
    Envy! My grandfathers and great-grandfathers - the Kuban Cossacks always called themselves Russian Cossacks! And with neglect, they never belonged to anyone! And the fact that they were attracted to restoring order - but what's wrong? What did the Zionist-foreign revolution of Russia bring? () And mine and the Don don’t envy, but they hate like all Russian. After all, the Cossacks were the brightest representatives of the Russian people. Leo Tolstoy said that Russia owes its territory to the Cossacks, well, something like that, but then, as the cockroaches crawled m ... and,
  38. Kapellan23
    Kapellan23 14 February 2016 22: 56
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    The military circle decided by overwhelming majority of votes: Do not recognize the Soviet power; continue the struggle with the Bolsheviks until complete victory over them. For the most part, the deputies perfectly understood that the Bolsheviks fought against the Cossacks, which always stood guard over Russian statehood, and now they are again in their way ...