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30 minutes with the channel "1 + 1", or the Information War in action

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I tried to write this article several times, but I put it off all the time, thinking that what I see on the Ukrainian TV channels is only of a spontaneous nature or is a version of a single journalist. I respect the opinion of another person, even if his opinion does not coincide with mine. But, unfortunately, every morning, including the TV, I am convinced of the systematic nature of the impact that Ukrainian TV channels now have on television viewers. There is an information war. The so-called entertainment and information TV channels are in essence entertainment and propaganda. Not to be unsubstantiated, I will give an example of plotting on the 1 + 1 channel from 6: 40 to 7: 10 27 January 2014 in the program “Snidanok з 1 + 1”. In brackets, I will comment on the message that the channel is trying to put in their stories.


So, turning on the TV in 6: 40, I saw a series of plots about the Maidan, accompanied by commentaries by the presenters: “We were just informed that there was a beating of journalists there. Unknown threw stones at them, etc., ”or“ There the peaceful demonstrators were severely beaten by the Berkut. Leading with a pile of newspapers in their hands told how negatively assess the actions of the authorities in Germany and in other foreign countries. Then they showed the funeral of the “hero” carried in their arms, the coffin is covered with a red and black flag, people shout: “Glory to the heroes!” They told about the memorial service in the St. Michael's Cathedral over the murdered.

Then, apparently, having decided to show the “nationality” and humanity of Maidan, they showed the story about his women (women are mothers, this is holy! Look!), They showed the hard life of Maidan, how women prepare food, drag “berkutovtsy” away from demonstrators , provide medical care. Then, again, apparently deciding to show the internationalism of Maidan, they showed some novice singer from Russia, who, having started the conversation in Ukrainian and continued in Russian, told what all the heroes are here, and about the popular Maidan's joke, from which Maidan all with higher education, and "cattle" uneducated in the form of "Berkut" is trying to destroy freedom.

Then, apparently deciding to demonstrate what the “simple but highly educated people” are fighting on the Maidan, they showed the story of a woman who sits with her family without heat in her own apartment. (Such a fine analogy!)

And where is the story about the main potential enemy, you ask? And here he is. A series of “entertaining” plots went on, in which they showed a snapshot of two toilets in one toilet room from Sochi for the Olympians - the same one that had been “eaten away”, “sucked” and laid out on the Internet for a long time (they say, where is Russia with its own tips , they are disgraced, they cannot “push” normally, forgetting to say that the photo was taken at the time of the repair, and on the wall there are clearly visible traces of the removed partition.

Further, following the logic of modern TV channels, you need something neutral. Here is a story about birds, in which a bird began to peck at a disguised camera (how touching!)

Then - secular news about the wedding of children of Lytvyn and deputy of the Party of Regions Derkach, who played the wedding in Kiev to the songs of Kirkorov. For 5 minutes before the plot, the text about this was a line during the story about the hero's funeral (the message is: “Aww, ay, here are radishes, Maidan is fighting heroically, and you made a feast during the plague! Even under Kirkorov , moreover, Malakhov and his wife were invited! Ah, ah, not good ... ”)

Then, apparently deciding not to be distracted from the topic, they showed the plot of the pianist in a mask with a closed face on the Maidan, who supports Protestants with his music (see, here he is an intellectual, a creative person, a romantic revolutionist Che Guevara and Tchaikovsky in one a bottle!) And they did not forget to mention that on the Internet some user from Europe commented this on “Otaki on Maidani - Extremisty” (“These are extremists on Maidan”). It was said with warm irony, they say, look, what gentle, creative people special forces beat.

Where are the kids? Well, without them: they reported the victory of a young 16-year-old tennis player in duplicate with a Russian tennis player at the Australian Open. Here it is, clean and promising youth!

Well, enough distractions, we decided on the channel, and launched the news story. In which they showed how law-enforcement agencies were mobilized in Donetsk, told about the future rally in support of the president, and of course, interviewed people. They showed how the Crimea and other areas are mobilized, they again interviewed. We tried to interview the “aunts”, who defended some kind of administration with cudgels. It seems to be everything and nothing, but in the “titushki” report all run away from the camera, and all opponents of Maidan speak Russian (!), Exclusively in Russian (all the “heroes” are avzhezh, in Ukrainian). And interviewed something from ordinary people. One woman said that she would have blockaded this Maidan, like the Germans, Leningrad during the Second World War, and would have blocked all the provisions of the Maidan. Another, stumbling, said that we want to live a normal life on our land, and that the Maidan must be stopped, and on objection: “But they too live in Ukraine,” could only squeeze out of themselves: “So what?” . Apparently, interviews were chosen by professionals who had passed several internships abroad. From the “heroes” they show people of different ages with a bias towards youth, and from opponents - people who are over 50 years old. (Here you have an unspoken opposition: young heroes with higher education, romantics, patriots of Ukraine against Russian-speaking tired "sovok" who can not squeeze a word, are not capable of dialogue, and can only blockade and destroy the peaceful demonstrators).

Then they showed (as without him!) Zhirinovsky who, as he can, charged about the events and sent them all to live in Lviv (they say, look, people who are in power in Russia, Putin’s hawk, hungry for the blood of demonstrators and the Ukrainian eastern and southern lands!)

On this I turned off the TV and took the child to school. I just want to warn you that I didn’t accurately describe everything shown, but I singled out the main thing. And this is repeated constantly, every morning, several times a day. The scheme is the same: demonstrators and the press are beating (aggravating the situation) - the heroes of Maidan (steadfastness) - comments from the Western press and politicians (the West will help us!) - fleeing "titushki" and silent "Berkut" ("radishes" in the service of the authorities) - plot about a bad housing situation or about something similar in Ukraine (they say, brought the country, reptiles!) - children (childhood, which bad uncles want to take away) - opinion from Russia (insidious enemy). And everything repeats every morning several times. All of this may be accompanied by “diarrhea” from verified and unverified information about Russian special forces in Ukraine, beating up of journalists (as if not regional demonstrators, but demonstrators are storming regional administrations, but journalists), etc.

I also noticed the following. There is one presenter of the news block, whose tone is to start talking about the reaction of the Russian leadership to the events in Ukraine, clearly perplexed. And having finished the news, she constantly smacked hers, they say, well, what about taking fools, they don't understand us.

Here you have impartial coverage of events. And now the most important thing: during the Maidan through the channels of advertising does not stop. And it is very dissonant against the background of “disturbing news”. A revolution is a revolution, but money loves to count money. So here! Who does not believe, find this channel on the Internet or on satellite television, and watch the morning program.

I warn you right away, I am not a journalist. I wrote what I saw, only from my own point of view, completely free. I do not like to eat everything that they try to feed me without chewing. And especially when they want to feed me with such propaganda vinaigrette. I understand this: if the channel is informational, then it must submit information impartially and cover it comprehensively. And when one of the leading channels of the country shows this, it causes a reflex aversion, after which you begin to think about many things.
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  1. 311ove
    311ove 28 January 2014 08: 30
    +20
    Yes, no, they’re interrupting advertising with the news .... Actually, what's the difference to them, they paid money both here and there .... wassat hi
    1. smel
      smel 28 January 2014 09: 07
      +12
      And no wonder. If the president and the ministers get into the topic of channels and all the media, then you will get your sprats. If they don’t feel sorry for law enforcement officers, they don’t give a damn about non-observance of laws and organized rebellion - this could not be otherwise. Take the children to school. They will be taught there.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 28 January 2014 09: 35
        +7
        Quote: smel
        If they don’t feel sorry for law enforcement officers, they don’t give a damn about non-observance of laws and organized rebellion - this could not be otherwise.


        I also agree that it was the aggressive part of the rally that had to be strangled in the bud, but time was wasted, the heap of tires, bits and other weapons was allowed to be delivered, and now the situation is at an impasse.
        1. domokl
          domokl 28 January 2014 11: 00
          +11
          What and when it was necessary to do it was already stupid to discuss. What has not been done is not done ... It is interesting what will happen on the Maidan in an hour and a half ... Now it’s 11 in Moscow, then at 12, the maximum per hour will start to threaten or load. ..
          And I liked the note in that the person writes exactly as a person .. About himself and his feelings ...
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 28 January 2014 12: 01
            +11
            Quote: domokl
            And I liked the note in that the person writes exactly as a person .. About himself and his feelings ...

            Well done, the author was able to present what was just spinning in my head. But I thought that I was the only one. The payment of the channel "1 + 1" is obvious. The fact that the presenters simply savor the facts rigged by their fellow journalist whore. not armed, so to speak with an eye. More or less balanced the situation is highlighted by "Inter". And "Channel 5" and "1 + 1" ... it seems that you are watching an American action movie like "Rimbaud" - all around are scoundrels, but there is one (three) heroes, they will win everyone in an unequal (of course!) struggle and save them from the tyrant and the “golden eagle.” But the question arises, where did the authorities look when they issued the broadcasting license? If money is above all for such a government, if the rustle of green paper drowns out the voice of common sense, then why are we surprised? After all, it is not for nothing that people say: fools are beaten. So the government turned out to be in the role of a fool, whom the enemy beats with information. And at the same time, the inhabitants try to hang noodles on their ears. True, there is here One point. Let me explain. For a year in 1996, I was categorically turned away from American militants, and Almost all of their films. It is disgusting to watch how the heroic American from film to film conquers all enemies and American justice triumphs and triumphs. Common sense woke up, irony and critical thinking turned on. "Hollywood" was too intrusive and aggressive in its propaganda and ... The brain got a good vaccine and began to reject the alien information product. The news is the same story. And more and more people realize that they are trying to sell the product Made in Psi.n.d.s.s.s.i.
            1. domokl
              domokl 28 January 2014 12: 55
              +5
              Perhaps that’s why this kind of information slaughter is stalling ... Those who watched American films with rapture already understood their essence ... But young people who have not eaten up this abomination still believe in something, or rather, probably on something hopes.
              It’s only vile that the boys brought up by these films and comp.games are almost sure that they have several lives in each game ... And the opponents are virtual ... Sobering comes near the tomb of a friend of the classmate ... or never comes
    2. GDP
      GDP 28 January 2014 09: 44
      +15
      A war is being fought against Russia and the Russian people on all fronts ... We are being destroyed from the inside by all possible means, undermining the economy and breaking all possible connections, loosing money, trying to encircle our enemies and turn our friends and relatives into enemies ...
      Throughout the world, the remains of our former allies are knocked out and presented as a victory of democracy. If massive brainwashing and diplomacy does not help, assault battalions are involved, and if this does not help, they trample the countries into the Stone Age with bombs and missiles. We are methodically surrounded by military bases.
      Honestly, the news already makes me sick and the humpback with Yeltsin still doesn’t see the way out of the pit into which our great country was driven ... Maybe we are exaggerating everything and it all seems ... I would like to be positive, of course, we are Russians in most in a difficult situation, we can see something good and find it, just don’t be like an ostrich sticking its head in the sand ...
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 28 January 2014 10: 13
        +20
        I suggest starting the article with an epigraph:

        "Take history away from the people - and in a generation it will turn into a crowd, and in another generation it can be ruled like a herd."

        Josef Goebbels

        Do not add do not diminish. All Ukrainian media are in the hands of pro-Western oligarchs and media tycoons, and only a fool can deny this. With the task, we will give them their due, they perform at 200%. The more Chernukha and untruth, the higher the rating, and the higher it is, the more they earn. With regret, we can say that this is not only a problem / misfortune in Ukraine, but also in Russia.

        As an epilogue:

        "The most dangerous weapons of mass destruction are the media. Because they destroy the spirit, creativity and courage of people and replace them with fear, mistrust, guilt and self-doubt."

        Josef Goebbels
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 28 January 2014 10: 34
          +5
          Yes, Goebbels’s case lives on, his students have not yet reached it, but they are learning fast! The information war is in full swing, political strategists are repelling their 30 pieces of silver.
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 28 January 2014 12: 18
          +5
          + 1000! You are well done!
          To my great regret, our picture is not much better.
          From our generation, born 1995-2000 in fact, "Maidan meat" has been prepared. Alas. With rare exceptions, this is a bunch of biomass, indifferent to everything. Plus a huge dependence on social media.
          History ... where is it? For three years now I have been carefully studying history textbooks (forced), and the only thing that their authors deserve is burning at the stake from their own creations.
          It is impossible to even say "we raised a generation of scumbags." Alas. It actually grew by itself. But we will have to reap the benefits.
      2. kush62
        kush62 28 January 2014 17: 04
        +4
        I completely agree with you GDP.
        The other day smelly excuse the fetid rain decided to conduct a provocative poll about surrendering to the enemy of Leningrad. It’s strange how this channel will not be covered yet.
        Except for mats, nothing comes to mind. Abomination at the level of snacks.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 28 January 2014 23: 40
          0
          Quote: kush62
          The other day smelly excuse the fetid rain decided to conduct a provocative poll about surrendering to the enemy of Leningrad. It’s strange how this channel will not be covered yet.

          Yes, it seems today they said that cable networks want to refuse him broadcasting ...
      3. alexdol
        alexdol 28 January 2014 19: 16
        +2
        GDP RU "A war is being waged against Russia and the Russian people on all fronts ..."
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        You speak absolutely correctly! And here is one of the operating FRONTS - Ukrainian! Purpose: to tear away its ancestral lands from RUSSIA! And pay attention to how much I am talking about this here, but still there are those who "advise" us to solve "our problems" here ourselves and not to COMMUNICATE with Russian ones! But these are all OUR PROBLEMS! Why are you withdrawing yourself? If this WEST arms and helps in every possible way these DISADVANTAGES in "Ukraine", then who will help us, RUSSIANS, who live here! Who can we count on? Only to RUSSIA, and the Russian leadership endlessly repeats that it will not "INTERVE" !!! That is, let the West, together with the Amers are the OWNERS here ?! I have no words ... And some also ask, what are you doing to prevent this bastard from passing? What can we do? We have no money, no weapons - nothing! And Bendera's people have EVERYTHING! Here's the answer to everything ...
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 28 January 2014 21: 03
          +5
          Quote: alexdol
          If this WEST arms and helps in every way these DISADVANTAGES in "Ukraine", then who will help us, RUSSIANS, who live here! Who can we count on? Only in RUSSIA, and the Russian leadership endlessly repeats that it will not "INTERVE" !!!

          Not the time comrade, the puzzle did not work out. "retreating to attack" is the hardest and psychologically most difficult part of the art of war. Only Russians are fluent in it. Ukraine has not collapsed yet only thanks to Russia. And the media say the opposite, that the Ukrainian people do not want the power of the Russian oligarchs and the scoop. Whoever becomes the prime minister or president there will still have to go to negotiate with Russia if he does not want a default. Svidomye ukronatsi can rage. The West hand out cookies and grants, but all real loans and projects and agreements that can bring Ukraine out of the crisis only from Russia. Putin could not give anything and cynically throw Yanukovych, who rushed about in search of money, but he did not. Let's wait on February 7 then and see.
          1. alexdol
            alexdol 29 January 2014 18: 38
            0
            Ascetic SU "... Ukraine has not collapsed yet only thanks to Russia. ..."
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            Your comments have always been interesting, but now I strongly disagree with you! As a state, Ukraine exists primarily because Russia ALLOWS it ?! Rather, the Russian government! I consider any reasoning here inappropriate, primarily because in the current situation Russia can get a very "friendly Bender" state near its borders, unlike Syria, in the immediate vicinity! And therefore there is no time to wait, we must act without looking back to the WEST! And everything would have been as I write here, if it were the Russian government in today's RUSSIA ...
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 28 January 2014 23: 43
          0
          Quote: alexdol
          they "advise" us to solve "our problems" here ourselves and not to COMMUNICATE with Russian ones! But these are all OUR PROBLEMS! Why are you withdrawing yourself?

          Well, first of all, are you on the 91?
          how they planned to become the second storage, so themselves, but as problems, it somehow became our problems ...

          do you want, dear sirs, to finally take responsibility for your actions?
          this is the problem of ukraine, no one wants to answer for anything and lives by the principle "my house is on the edge" ...
          1. alexdol
            alexdol 29 January 2014 18: 28
            -1
            DanaF1 RU .....
            I won’t even cite what you write about ... I’ll just repeat it specifically for you: smart women are extremely rare, but you are one of them, alas, do not belong ....
    3. AVV
      AVV 28 January 2014 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: 311ove
      Yes, no, they’re interrupting advertising with the news .... Actually, what's the difference to them, they paid money both here and there .... wassat hi

      The leadership of Ukraine urgently needs to select broadcast licenses from such companies !!! And then the West pays for them, and they still earn money from advertising !!!
      1. bogdan
        bogdan 28 January 2014 12: 04
        +2
        So, in fact, this is all the media field of Ukraine, well, "1 + 1" is a propagandistic flagship, well, and another 5 channel, but personally I have this dope, strong immunity (for so many years) has developed, everything that the author says myself I observe , I remember after the destruction of the monument to V.I. Lenin, as if on "interest", with disgusting smirks, they argued that now everyone can take a piece for themselves, and those wishing to restore the monument can redeem parts for money at auctions.
        That is why they are then surprised that they are beaten in the streets.
        1. bogdan
          bogdan 28 January 2014 12: 14
          +4
          The question arises, where did the authorities look when they issued a broadcast license?
          1. Rink
            Rink 28 January 2014 12: 39
            +8
            Yes, that's right.
            Ukrainian television works according to all standards of information warfare. Moreover, the density of lies is such that it takes two hours to comment on all the "mines" in 15 minutes of the airtime of any Ukrainian TV channel.

            Television is real zombies people, because we have long been accustomed to trusting the media. It seems to people that the media bears some kind of responsibility for their "information" and other programs, therefore "it is mostly true, because how can you lie so blatantly ?!"

            And modern media firstly got used to FULL impunity, and secondly they perfectly learned the lesson of their beloved teacher, Joseph Goebbels:
            - "A lie repeated 1000 times becomes true."

            If in the near future the state does not deal with the media, the Third World War will be lost by us without a single shot.
      2. VadimSt
        VadimSt 28 January 2014 12: 21
        0
        They learned to select only business!
    4. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 28 January 2014 11: 53
      +4
      Well, for me, like this ...



      Well, these are their dreams ...
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      3. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 28 January 2014 13: 15
        +25
        I will make my contribution. wink From the Internet:
        1. mig29mks
          mig29mks 28 January 2014 20: 02
          +5
          used!!!!!!!!!!
      4. rolik
        rolik 28 January 2014 13: 18
        +4
        Quote: Novel 1977
        Well, for me, like this.

        Ah ha ha ha))))) Arsik ..... damn .... BEZAYAYTSENYUK ..... looks like)))))))
        Tyagnibok, in my opinion, still looks more like Fester))))))) Well, the family around him, too, just like the Adams family))))))
      5. Zabvo
        Zabvo 28 January 2014 14: 53
        0
        Latest photos of zbst !!! Three tankers, for those who have the right in their faces it is clear that stupid people, and with the participation of this "group - Z" in power, the end for fraternal Ukraine will come very quickly ...
        1. Memorandum
          Memorandum 28 January 2014 22: 01
          +1
          Yanukovych-rag ...
          1. CALL.
            CALL. 29 January 2014 05: 47
            +3
            It would seem, look, the Baltic states gained independence as a result of Gorbachev's betrayal. Received. What have they done with this independence?
            How is that nothing? They lowered her into the toilet. They, as a girl, gave their independence to the West.
            The question is, why did they give their independence?
            By the way, it seems to me that the analogies with the girls are very correct. Because the girl in the form of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania gave their love to the West. Let's ask, what did the girl get for this?
            No, a girl is considered democratic. It is very good, it is great.
            And in material form, what did she get? There is no wedding ring.
            She was taken to the European Union, and she has a number there, I don’t even know which, not even the sixteenth. That is, in the Soviet Union and in the Russian Empire, these were the most western provinces, and not only in the geographical sense, but in the sense of development.
            That is, it was the Soviet West. What is it now?
            Now these are countries where all young people left for the West to wash toilets, graze cows, I don’t know what else to do there. The question is, what did the girl get? The girl got the opportunity to work as a housekeeper for her young man. This is a big gain, right?
            The Baltic States received nothing but the opportunity to scold Russia, to receive some tranches for some reason, and as a result become an increasingly less developed state, because deindustrialization took place there immediately. We said that in Lithuania Ignalina NPP was closed. Why shut down?
            Because electricity is too cheap. Now they are buying democratic expensive energy in Europe - everything is as it should.
            As a result, production is not there. They keep their very expensive money, respectively, there is no production either. And there is no production - there are no jobs, everything means everything flows away, everything goes to where there are jobs, where there is an opportunity to live. That is, they received nothing.
            What can Ukraine get from this? Even worse.
            While the Baltic republics formally entered the European Union and are its backyard, no one will ever accept Ukraine into the European Union. Why? Because forty-seven million people, who again need to guarantee a high standard of living, have some kind of right - there is no money for it.
            Therefore, the agreement that is being proposed to Ukraine should give Ukraine sovereignty towards Brussels. That is, the main point of this agreement is not European integration. She will never be. No one will accept Ukraine anywhere, and an agreement on the real entry of Ukraine into the European Union will never be signed. It is about taking away sovereign rights from Ukraine and preventing it from integrating into the Customs Eurasian Union. That is the most important thing.
            If you remember the play of Ostrovsky, maybe in school were held, maybe the film was seen. There, at the end, the bridegroom of the protagonist kills her with a cry: “So don’t get to anyone!” About the same thing now Europe and America want to do in relation to Ukraine.
            That is, their main task is to block the restoration of historical, economic, cultural, any other ties between Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and the rest of the post-Soviet space. That is their purpose.
            Old people "How Ukraine is bred" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5nGGsAf1AI
            1. General Frost
              General Frost 29 January 2014 07: 16
              +1
              That's right. It's a shame that again I have to endure (I don’t even know how to say) a defeat in the information war (well, why lessons were not learned on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX). A good promise to close because rain (counterattack, so to speak), but social networks are still seedlings of desa it's probably time too stop (Can you somehow somehow slander me?) I will gladly read your opinions and suggestions. With respect to all forum users !!!!
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 29 January 2014 08: 28
              +1
              Cool, Anatoly
  2. svskor80
    svskor80 28 January 2014 08: 31
    +6
    Who pays and dances, that is, what they paid for (and probably a lot) they show.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 January 2014 10: 39
      +4
      Quote: svskor80
      for which they paid (and probably a lot) they show.

      Oh oh And all the shows, comedies, invitations to concerts? It is emphasized that in the theater. Franka (Ukrainian drama), located on Pechersk and not far from the scene of the clashes, performances continue to go on, and the hall on 2 / 3 is full ... So everything is fine ...
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 28 January 2014 12: 23
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        So all is well ...


        Is not it?
        All this can be regarded very, very twofold.

        I apologize in advance to everyone who would be outraged by such a comparison (I would have been indignant, probably), but in blockaded Leningrad Shostakovich also gave concerts with his symphony orchestra. And how was it presented to the whole country (and not only to the country, the Germans also listened on the radio)? So ...
      2. rolik
        rolik 28 January 2014 14: 03
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        ..So it's all good ...

        When the Titanic was already drowning, an orchestra played on the deck to calm the passengers a little.
  3. Canep
    Canep 28 January 2014 08: 31
    +18
    I also noticed the following. There is one leading news block who, in her tone, should she talk about the reaction of the Russian leadership to the events in Ukraine, clearly bewilders the perplexed bewilderment. And when she finished the news, she constantly wondered, well, well, they’d take fools, they don’t understand us.
    Well, the author only has to say about who is the sponsor and the owner of the channel. But it is not difficult to guess the sponsors overseas, but the owner of Central European Media Enterprrises Ltd. The founder of the company is billionaire Ronald Lauder, one of the owners of Estée Lauder Companies, CME is registered in Bermuda.
    Does anyone expect such a channel to have a different broadcasting policy?
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 28 January 2014 09: 20
      +9
      Quote: Canep
      Does anyone expect such a channel to have a different broadcasting policy?

      And here is another example: no matter what my attitude to Venediktov, but even he drove the Ragul journalists into a blank and dark corner - the poor did not stand it, found excuses for castling the hosts, and simply ticked from the dialogue with the guests with a roar. It was even fun to watch.
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 28 January 2014 10: 26
        +7
        I watched it live ... very funny. By the way, "skrypin" is called a liar on the air for the second time - the first time it was Shuster ... but the trend
        1. rolik
          rolik 28 January 2014 16: 38
          +3
          Quote: Makarov
          was Schuster

          Well, yes, Schuster is also an example of honesty and decency)))))
          In this interview, I really liked (with a negative, in general, attitude to this character) that Venediktov does not offend Russia. For this, he is a big plus. Although they tried to bring him to direct criticism of Russia, especially Bonya.
        2. avg
          avg 28 January 2014 18: 09
          +4
          Quote: Makarov
          I watched it live ... very funny.

          Really funny. He made them one left. The passage of Ukrainian journalists about teachers on the barricades was especially touched. laughing
          So I imagined a literary woman ... "I’ll die, then praise me at the grave ..." and a Molotov cocktail babah!
          Or maybe they got some physical education? yes
      2. CALL.
        CALL. 28 January 2014 11: 55
        +2
        Quote: Kurkul
        whatever my attitude to Venediktov

        Pedophile echo
        Against the background of the good news about the invitation of Aleksey Venediktov, the editor-in-chief of the radio station Ekho Moskvy, to the prosecutor’s office, it’s worth taking a closer look at the moral character of this “truth-seeker”. Which surprisingly persistently and consistently upholds the geopolitical interests of the United States in our political field.
        Have a closer look. The picture is disgusting.
        It turns out that as a teacher at school, Alexei Venediktov, who claims to be the "conscience of the nation", slept with his students. With minor schoolgirls.
        But the worst is not even that.
        This man not only does not hide such immoral acts - he boasts of them.
        Thanks to the blogger? V = r88.10 "alt = [info]" „width =“ 16 ”height =" 16 "/> beriozka_rus for helping to make sure once again that the external appearance always coincides with the internal ...
        Source: http://beriozka-rus.livejournal.com/4110.html#cutid1
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 28 January 2014 12: 10
          +5
          Here is Alexei Venediktov giving an interview to Maxim magazine:
          Source. http://www.maximonline.ru/statji/_article/aleksej-venediktov/
          Unfortunately, Venediktov is well acquainted with the articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. And he gives an interview so that it is not possible to prosecute him. Anyone can be convinced of this by looking through the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          Now answer your question: how can such an immoral person take up a post that allows him to influence public opinion and public morality?
          Alexey Venediktov has no right, should not occupy any public posts.
          Or supporters of "fair elections" and "universal values" are allowed absolutely everything in our country?
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          2. atalef
            atalef 28 January 2014 12: 21
            +4
            Quote: Z.O.V.
            Here is Alexei Venediktov giving an interview to Maxim magazine:

            In general, it is very simple to deal with this - do not buy a magazine, the rating and sales will fall. More Venekdiktov will not be invited
            Quote: Z.O.V.
            Unfortunately, Venediktov is well acquainted with the articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. And he gives an interview so that it is not possible to prosecute him.

            Then what are the problems - if the criminal code does not violate?
            Quote: Z.O.V.
            Now answer your question: how can such an immoral person take up a post that allows him to influence public opinion and public morality?

            Do not listen to him and do not fall under his influence.
            For example, I don’t like some kind of program - so I don’t even watch it and don’t even worry about it
            Quote: Z.O.V.
            Alexey Venediktov has no right, should not occupy any public posts.

            It’s strange. he does not violate any article of the Criminal Code, at the same time, Serdyukov and the Company for many years not only held key non-public posts, but government officials stole and violated the Criminal Code.
            Which did not stop the same Serdyukov from getting a new appointment and still avoiding prison bunks. What do you think about this?
            1. Rebus
              Rebus 28 January 2014 13: 10
              +3
              atalef
              Take him (Venediktov) to you, let him live in his historical homeland, and he is well and calm Russia. And then, after all, they will break his head and the whole world will talk about anti-Semitism in Russia, and if they break it in Israel, it will be just an accident ...
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              2. atalef
                atalef 28 January 2014 13: 16
                -2
                Quote: Rebus
                Take him (Venediktov) to yourself, let him live in his historical homeland, and he is well and calm Russia

                In general, this is his own business (as a citizen of Russia) where to live and what to say (if this does not violate the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
                Quote: Rebus
                And then he’ll break his head and the whole world will talk about anti-Semitism in Russia

                I hope if they break their minds, the police will at least find those responsible. Further, I think he will take care of his safety somehow, maybe it would be better to say that about Kadyrov. It seems to me that he inflicted more harm on the Russian Federation, I understand it is easier to puff on Venediktov. there will be no consequences, tell me about Kadyrov.
                1. Rebus
                  Rebus 28 January 2014 13: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  . It seems to me that he inflicted more harm on the Russian Federation, I understand it is easier to puff on Venediktov. there will be no consequences, tell me about Kadyrov.

                  Kadyrov to Israel? laughing
                  But seriously, Kadyrov is in power, as long as it is beneficial to the central government. But I think, in which case, he will be allowed to escape to Saudi Arabia ...
                  And Venediktov from those people who always in opposition, no matter who is in power, even if the most democratic democrats come to power, he will be against the "regime". Journalists simply cannot be different, because all their actions and words are determined by two things - sponsors' money and rating. I do not blame him at all, such is a person's profession and path, sorry for him has no personal opinion ...
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 28 January 2014 16: 54
              +3
              Quote: atalef

              Which did not stop the same Serdyukov from getting a new appointment and still avoiding prison bunks. What do you think about this?

              YOU Z.O.V. competently, but you have too much dry logic, no emotions, and he has. Probably the RUSSIAN person is still more important than emotions, try soulful. Yes, and I also remember that 147 Jews became Heroes during the Second World War.
              1. CALL.
                CALL. 29 January 2014 02: 57
                0
                Quote: ele1285
                YOU Z.O.V. competently, but you have too much dry logic

                What is there literate? The fact that Venediktov is a moral uro @ and does not have the moral right to occupy any public office did not raise any objections. As for buying, not buying does not change the essence. If @ shit stinks in your apartment, you don’t plug your nose, you just take it and throw it away, where it belongs.
            3. CALL.
              CALL. 29 January 2014 01: 38
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Which did not stop the same Serdyukov from getting a new appointment and still avoiding prison bunks. What do you think about this?

              One blah blah blah and nothing concrete. If you have been grazing on this site for a long time and are not engaged, then you are well aware of what is happening in our society. There is no time and meaning, the content of the entire site is retold in a new way.
      3. Borz
        Borz 28 January 2014 11: 56
        +8
        Excellent broadcast. For all my extremely skeptical attitude towards "Echo of Moscow", I must admit the highest professionalism of Mr. Venediktov. There is an abyss between him and our "independent grant-eaters from journalism. It was a defeat, a complete and unconditional surrender. The Venediktov never he let himself be distracted, did not buy into provocations, answered questions clearly and precisely. He was especially amused by his phrase: "... you invite people here (to the studio) and want them to tell you what you want to hear. You want to be licked. "
      4. 31231
        31231 28 January 2014 13: 01
        0
        But how can he not drive the journalists supporting the Maidan ?! Natsik on the Maidan against the Jews.
        What will he support these Natsik? Of course he is against.


        1. Borz
          Borz 28 January 2014 14: 09
          +6
          It's not even about the "Jewish question." It's about the fundamentals of journalism. According to Mr. Venediktov, "you themselves invited to the studio to find out my opinion about what is happening in Ukraine. "And when he began to voice this very opinion, they began to argue with him, prove him wrong and accuse him of" teaching them. "Paradox? Yes, in no case. This is a technique of imposing one, very a subjective point of view. Why did the "grant eaters" start castling on the air and get very nervous in the studio? Simply because everything did not go according to their (their owners) scenario, like we honestly talk about the good ones, and those on the other side of the barricades The bad ones. Venediktov at least looked like an independent journalist.
      5. shark
        shark 28 January 2014 17: 20
        +9
        I didn’t think that I would ever say this, but damn how smart this son of a bitch is. It’s a pity that the enemy
        1. Borz
          Borz 28 January 2014 18: 33
          +3
          Plus, you yourself had the same thoughts.
          1. alone
            alone 28 January 2014 22: 04
            +1
            Well, forum users, journalists, and everyone related to the media are dependent. They are all dependent on those who finance them. Do you think they lie only in Ukraine? And we have no less lies, and you have the same thing in Russia. And in the USA and in all over the world .. they’re all for sale. All are covered with one garbage.
            1. Borz
              Borz 29 January 2014 01: 04
              +1
              Well, that's what I wrote: "looked like"independent.
  4. Mviktor
    Mviktor 28 January 2014 08: 31
    +12
    Well done, he wrote everything correctly, I hope that the majority in Ukraine are just as adequate then not everything is lost. Now, the main thing is to make Judah Yanukovych fulfill his immediate duties as the president of Ukraine
    1. Fin
      Fin 28 January 2014 09: 40
      +3
      Quote: Mviktor
      Well done, he wrote everything correctly, I hope that the majority in Ukraine are just as adequate then not everything is lost.

      It remains to add, there is not a single Ukrainian. channel providing objective information. Cable TV in cities provides ORT, NTV, RTR, TVC, but not in villages. Adequate - able to think, and their 15-20%.
  5. zzz
    zzz 28 January 2014 08: 34
    +6
    A revolution is a revolution, and money loves an account.


    Yes .. therefore it is not visible that at least one bank was captured by bandits ...
    1. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver 28 January 2014 09: 34
      +4
      Quote: zzz
      Yes .. therefore it is not visible that at least one bank was captured by bandits ...

      Also at a loss. If crime is already rampant on the streets, then banks, shops, and other places where there is cash or precious metals should be smashed. And here they are sitting and watching pianist heroes on TV. There are no police orders for tough actions, it seems that Yanukovych is just quietly merging the country. The normal behavior of a tukushnik.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 28 January 2014 12: 20
        +2
        Quote: Andrey from Tver
        Also at a loss. If crime is already rampant on the streets, then banks, shops, and other places where there is cash or precious metals should be smashed.

        They receive money from the US Embassy.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 28 January 2014 10: 35
      +2
      Quote: zzz
      A revolution is a revolution, and money loves an account.


      Yes .. therefore it is not visible that at least one bank was captured by bandits ...


      "To whom the war is to whom the mother is dear."
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  7. dark_65
    dark_65 28 January 2014 08: 37
    0
    Well, what's new? In principle, the institution of political politicians will be under any government, and our attitude towards them is determined by us.
    1. dark_65
      dark_65 28 January 2014 08: 42
      +4
      I add that the channel belongs to Kolomoisky, Igor Valerievich. He lives mainly in Switzerland. Citizen of Ukraine and Israel.
      Who wants to, delve further, everything is clear to me.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 28 January 2014 08: 51
        +15
        what is not clear here laughing
  8. svoi
    svoi 28 January 2014 08: 38
    +4
    The fact that PR exists is not surprising, that people ceases to surprise ceases to surprise, the short-sightedness of politicians, who have given the most important tool for forming public opinion into the hands of opponents, is surprising. Weak, greedy, stupid, understandable, but is he (Yanukovych) even sane?
  9. zzz
    zzz 28 January 2014 08: 40
    +2
    And having finished the news, she constantly wonders, well, well, they’ll take fools, they don’t understand us.

    So the channel would be occupied together with the leading one, and let it be at ch.m.o.k.i.v.a.a.a.
  10. major071
    major071 28 January 2014 08: 40
    +15
    And having finished the news, she constantly when (h) is wet, well, they’ll take fools, they don’t understand us.

    When (h) soaking is a sucking-swallowing reflex. Apparently getting ready for the arrival of the geyropeytsev, mouth develops.
  11. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 28 January 2014 08: 43
    +4
    from Don. Our people learn quickly, after 91, and there is practically no attempt to pressure that of advertising, that of propaganda clichés. There is still a herd of cars, houses, fashion, but mostly many self-sufficient people!
  12. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 28 January 2014 08: 51
    0
    It’s not a pity, but Ukraine has rolled towards Europe ... (Unfortunately ...)
    1. askort154
      askort154 28 January 2014 09: 12
      +4
      slavik_gross ... It’s not a pity, but Ukraine has rolled towards Europe ... (Unfortunately ..

      For now, she is clearly rolling into the abyss.
    2. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 28 January 2014 09: 40
      +2
      slavik_gross, Ukraine, as a state, is heterogeneous, with clearly defined parts of different directions. The whole east and most of the south gravitate toward Russia. Another thing is that the main screamers and the media supporting them are Westerners. The situation with the Maidan very clearly outlined this picture. Donbass, as it stood on its pro-Russian positions, will continue to stand, as it has been more than once since the times of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic. If (unlikely, but) suddenly the maydauns succeeded in overthrowing the president, the east would simply secede into a separate state, using the right to self-determination. Another thing is that this is not the best way out either for Russia or for Donbass or for Ukraine.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 28 January 2014 10: 36
      +2
      Quote: slavik_gross
      It’s not a pity, but Ukraine has rolled towards Europe ... (Unfortunately ...)


      All will not roll back, if only part.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 28 January 2014 12: 28
        0
        Let Ukraine not roll. Ukraine is people first of all. And they are not rolling the country anywhere. Those who are at the helm are driving the country. Yes, like "people's choices". Well, you know what I mean.

        They want to roll back the country. In all possible and affordable ways. Time will tell what comes of it.
  13. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 28 January 2014 09: 00
    +16
    The audience of the "Maidan" 1. It all started with students. It is understandable, students all over the world are prone to rebellion, they either "dig a cart" or "Maidan" - just not to study. They are still young, there is no sense of responsibility and fear - for them this is just a "game". 2. The so-called "creative" intelligentsia, that would "create" it is necessary to eat or vodar, or drugs. 3. Journalists - representatives of the "oldest profession" - what they pay for is what we cover. 4. Homeless people - they feed, watered, there is a place to spend the night - you can also "pomaydanit". 5 Professional provocateurs trained and trained for riots and not the fact that they were trained on the territory of Ukraine. Here hello to the "professionals" of the SBU. But where can professionals come from the SBU? This applies not only to the siloviki, but to all government agencies. Heads of departments "work" pisyuny and pisyukhi 25 years old in general positions - children of officials and oligarchs. 6. Banderlog at work - they earn money by washing Polish ass or "Maidan" all the same - Maidan is even better. 7.Those whom the Janek family got with their stupid greed, the lawlessness of the judges, prosecutors ...
    1. slvevg
      slvevg 28 January 2014 11: 15
      +3
      ... Banderlog at work - they earn money by washing Polish ass or "Maidan" all the same - Maidan is even better. 7.Those whom the Janek family got with their stupid greed, the lawlessness of the judges, prosecutors ...

      Dear Vladimir 70, points 1 to 5 are correct, and the 6th, this is a consequence of the 7th. In your opinion, banderlogs are not people, but this is the sex of Ukraine, do you think they like to wash assholes in Europe and Russia, leaving their families behind? I can assure you that assholes outside Ukraine and industrial citizens of eastern Ukraine wash, the difference is only in percentage terms, which is a direct indicator of the unemployment rate of the east-west and not mentality.
      Now the question is about the resignation of both the government and the president and the Rada and the transition to direct popular governance. Reminds nothing, comrade! The Ukrainian people want to get away from the formed system of government radically, with the further nationalization of everything and everything that I support, because otherwise the whole mover is worthless riot of students. The opposition itself does not know how to steer in order to come to power on this wave, but nobody in the WORLD needs the rule of the people, because the haves of this world will be in the ass. The idea of ​​communism is still alive and extremely contagious. A new form of government is emerging, but the current politicum and oligarchy are afraid of it. Open your eyes. Yanek drove himself to a standstill. And people voluntarily carry money and everything that can help the revolution against the 20-year outrage of bandits in power. You, the forum users have repeatedly said that Ukraine is a failed state, artificial education, so there’s nothing to moan about. Such a state is not needed by many Ukrainians, we will now build a new one, without gangsters and oligarchs ... I would like to believe in it.
      1. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 28 January 2014 11: 34
        +3
        In your opinion, banderlogs are not people, but this is the sex of Ukraine, do you think they like to wash assholes in Europe and Russia, leaving their families behind?
        It annoys me that the Banderlog impose on me their ideology, their heroes ... I don’t go to them and don’t teach them "life"
        Now the question is about the resignation of both the government and the president and the Rada and the transition to direct popular governance. Reminds nothing, comrade! The Ukrainian people want to get away from the formed system of government radically, with the further nationalization of everything and everything that I support, because otherwise the whole mover is worthless riot of students.
        The fact that Janek and K should sit - I agree. And I consider him the main culprit in the pogroms. But what kind of "people's rule" are we talking about? who will give him "to rule" and what kind of nationalization of everything and everything is it?
        The opposition itself does not know how to steer in order to come to power on this wave.
        Who is the opposition, these three clowns? The opposition is not related to the bucha, it is too stupid. The only bad thing is that the USA will push us the Petruha-chocolate.
        The idea of ​​communism is still alive and extremely contagious.
        Why communism is worse than the same capitalism.
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 28 January 2014 12: 57
          +3
          Quote: slvevg
          Now the question is about the resignation of both the government and the president and the Rada and the transition to direct popular governance.


          How's that, sorry?
          In principle, nothing new. Tips of workers and peasants' deputies? On the one hand, why not? On the other hand, the cook in power ... passed.

          Quote: slvevg
          The Ukrainian people want to get away from the formed system of government radically, with the further nationalization of everything and everything


          Not bad, though again not new. Confuses, to be honest, the list of Vladimir 70. They (fighters for a brighter future) will nationalize?

          Quote: slvevg
          Such a state is not needed by many Ukrainians, we will now build a new one, without gangsters and oligarchs ...


          Is there anyone with?
          And then, such a small quirk: well, a new state is being organized, for example. All the "bad" ones, as in 1917, on bunks or at expense, worthy of a march to the bright path. Yeah. And then a certain Putin appears with a delicate question about money ... there are loans, for gas again ... And the North and South Streams are already operating ...

          Quote: Vladimir 70
          The only bad thing is that the USA will push us the Petruha-chocolate.


          Will they give him money too?
          Not so all this is simple, alas.
        2. slvevg
          slvevg 28 January 2014 17: 24
          +1
          Why communism is worse than the same capitalism.

          IN THIS KEY, IT IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDING, YES AND IN GENERAL EVERYTHING IS CORRECTLY TELL BY YOU. I want the best for the people, but nobody canceled the puppeteers, regrettably ..
          and what nationalization of everything and everything is in question?
          we are talking about, only who will listen to her? I wrote about the idea floating in the air, and not about the ways of its implementation, because this is the problem of all mankind.
      2. avg
        avg 28 January 2014 16: 32
        +1
        Quote: slvevg
        we will now build new, without gangsters and oligarchs ... I would like to believe in it.

        You can believe. But, as a result of revolutions, only new bandits and oligarchs come to power. And Ukraine is a vivid example of this. Every time you overthrow someone and think that the new ones will be better. The same is with the EU. You think that you will sign the association and you will live like in Europe, but even here you will be bitterly disappointed and the results will be either apathy or a new revolution. And the oaths will be guilty ... (By saying you, I mean the electorate, those who, by their indirect action or inaction, support the "revolutionaries", and then vote for a new bright future)
  14. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 28 January 2014 09: 06
    +4
    As always, sane forces lose the information war. Money paid by the United States and the European Union turns into a bucket of dirt and slop in the media.
    But as always, I am struck by the lack of reason and logic in the behavior of ordinary people, the inhabitants of Kiev, and the whole of Ukraine, they again hope that everything without them will be resolved safely, everything will return to normal and a good life will go on without itself ?
    Is it not enough for them the bitter experience of the collapse of the USSR, the burgeoning Bandera Nazism and Ukrainian chauvinism? What do they want to get? Big incomes and pensions without a working economy, do they really hope for the promises of the golden mountains of the European Union?
    It seems common sense left most of the citizens of Ukraine and their leadership, if they make concessions, and are included in an increasing number of people who maydanut.
  15. sapran
    sapran 28 January 2014 09: 37
    -8
    Strange opus ...
    Want to see an alternative just turn on Inter after "reformatting".
    If you want to see even more "truthful" information, switch to any Russian channel (there is also a stream of information). If the author of the article is banned on Google and he is not able to watch the video from "mobile phones" without a close-up and fanciful commentary, then these are the author's problems ...
    Bullshit to make an assessment of the flow of information from one source ....
  16. zzz
    zzz 28 January 2014 09: 38
    +9
    that's what Ukraine is watching and listening to
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 28 January 2014 12: 58
      +2
      Not an indicator. This site is also not in the Russian Federation, so what?
  17. kontrol
    kontrol 28 January 2014 09: 50
    +1
    and what do you want. there is also all for the loot. any war is a way to fill your pocket. even informational. look at any news, everyone is biased. both they and we have. the result of democracy. although sometimes it seems to me that democracy = a mess. By the way, all the news channels behave the same way. Finding the truth is very difficult
  18. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 28 January 2014 10: 17
    +3
    Who prevents Yanukovych from appealing to the people (who voted for him, by the way) and say: "Brothers and sisters! A real war has been launched against us. This war is being waged by the United States of America. The goal of this war is the destruction of Ukraine as a state. By the hands of traitors. of our people, government buildings are seized and riots are organized in our cities. I, the legally elected president of Ukraine, promise you that this infection will be ended. The enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours! "
    Ha, but he won’t be allowed on any channel! In Russia, it’s not much better. We bet for three clicks that this comment will be deleted very soon!
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 28 January 2014 13: 02
      +2
      No one bothers. However, he did not speak ...
      Or maybe he's in share?

      Quote: igor-pchelkin
      In Russia, not much better


      It is better. It is still much.

      Quote: igor-pchelkin
      We bet on three clicks that this comment will be deleted very soon!


      You have argued. Where can I weigh?
  19. avs1208
    avs1208 28 January 2014 10: 21
    +2
    You can add one more character - Kolomoisky Igor, the owner of the Privat group, and this miserable canal. Gennady Korban is still his friend, that's what http://obozrevatel.com/politics/08419-dnepropetrovskij-biznes-schitaet-chto-stav writes
    ka-na-silu-vedet-stranu-v-propast.htm
    Laws are undemocratic in our country. Noticed Gene. This is a word about the pockets of the revolution.
  20. Ross
    Ross 28 January 2014 10: 27
    +3
    Quote: svskor80
    Who pays and dances, that is, what they paid for (and probably a lot) they show.

    Almost all the world's media are controlled by a handful of international corporations, under the control and management of all the same US bankers. Who pays is the one who orders the music. Look, is it different in Russia?
  21. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 28 January 2014 10: 31
    +4
    Independent press, oh don’t tell my slippers, Masmedics have long become competitors to prostitutes who pay music and dance, and in this situation, those who trash and gangster and who illuminate in the right light, haw from one hand. According to this unbiased coverage of events, we will never wait, all parties with the ability to broadcast follow someone's tambourine interest.
  22. pa_nik
    pa_nik 28 January 2014 11: 07
    +1
    We are at war (in this case, at the information one). But in war there are no trifles. hi
    1. polkovnik manuch
      polkovnik manuch 28 January 2014 11: 28
      +2
      I agree with you. Information wars and Gayropeytsy and Yankees are able to conduct, or rather to work off money, but where are our feather sharks? Or they can just assent and state the facts. And the "singer" from 1+ 1, upon returning to Russia, send songs to sing to the collective farm pigsty for a year or two, there are also spectators.
      1. demon184
        demon184 28 January 2014 13: 29
        +1
        Information war wins the one who pays the most.
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        2. atalef
          atalef 28 January 2014 13: 35
          +1
          Quote: demon184
          Information war wins the one who pays the most

          In general, information who wins the one who believes.
          Of course you can outbid part. but the bulk of the people have brains in place and no matter how much you do not fool,
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 28 January 2014 15: 24
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            In general, information who wins the one who believes.

            Even despite the fact that they carry a deliberate lie. An example is the war with Georgia. So your whole world was overbought, if everyone thought that Russia started the war?
  23. Belogor
    Belogor 28 January 2014 11: 13
    0
    Anyway, but Ukraine will not be the same. Unfortunately, her destiny is destined and not for the better. The authorities are surrendering all that is possible; the opposition, on the contrary, is showing its intransigence.
  24. sevtrash
    sevtrash 28 January 2014 11: 13
    +9
    TV channels in Ukraine belong to the oligarchs, who pump out money from Ukraine and invest them in the West and live there themselves, keep families, etc., there they are on the hook of the US and EU special services. They do what they are told, corrupt TV-ri. Yanukovych kind of asked them for money, since the default was shining, they refused.
    I don’t watch TV especially, but it seems that the vast majority of channels with great pleasure pick up anti-Russian news-statements. The oligarchs need to make money, sell goods to Russia, keep Russian oligarchs out of their pie, and work out their future in front of the United States. Akhmetov may somehow be somehow behind Yanukovych, because of his creature.
    Ukraine is an oligarchic state, Tymoshenko was jailed for redistributing gas without their consent, now Yanukovych is being raised. And the general divorce of suckers on the subject of nationalism.
    Conclusion - all the oligarchs to ...
    1. slvevg
      slvevg 28 January 2014 17: 31
      +1
      In most channels about Russia I don’t hear anything at all while we cook in my boiler.
  25. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 28 January 2014 11: 35
    +1
    But do Yatsenyuk and Yanukovych remind nobody of you? And they remind me of Russia in the year 17. The same Lenin and Kerensky. It seems to be against each other, but take a closer look - each for its own part, but the water is poured into one mill! Dolls! And who are the puppeteers?
  26. shelva
    shelva 28 January 2014 11: 44
    +1
    What else can you expect from the mass media ?, because the owners of all these channels are pro-Western "democrats-businessmen" who, in calm times, cut cabbage advertising all kinds of Western nonsense, which it is a pity to put in the trash, and in times of social exacerbation, they promote "Western values" and call on the people to establish an American-style democracy. The main thing is constant subversive activity.
  27. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 28 January 2014 11: 54
    +1
    How interesting! The same detachments of militants (all kinds of huskies), as in 17, paid for by the money of the same families because of the cordon. The same takeover of government buildings. The 17th has a telephone, a telegraph. The same slogans, adjusted for the time. Freedom equality Brotherhood. Dig deeper - the same characters of one well-known nationality. One difference in the 17th - a battalion of women in the Winter Palace instead of the "Berkut" on the Maidan. There would be an analogue of "Berkut" on Palace Square, you see, we would live in a completely different country. GLORY "Berkut" !!!
  28. kostofan
    kostofan 28 January 2014 12: 03
    +3
    1 + 1, 24news, 5channel, New Channel, AYSTV, these are all shouts of the Maidan.
  29. sprinterlis
    sprinterlis 28 January 2014 12: 03
    +3
    Turn off the TV and on the Internet watch what you yourself want, and not this nonsense about good Bendera and good Americans.
  30. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 28 January 2014 12: 06
    0
    That’s why I don’t watch a zombie creature - it’s not there yet. And as it appears - I will encode 90% of the channels! We (in Russia) Channel 1 is also disgusting - they always have ALL GOOD in their country! But the information war has never stopped since the beginning of the Cold War ... Maybe from an earlier period ...
  31. yehat
    yehat 28 January 2014 12: 10
    0
    "We will now build a new one, without bandits and oligarchs ..."

    I think it will be built with the commissars. Uncertainty only, with which - with the Communists, from the EU, from the USA or from the Russian Federation? I do not believe in commissars from Ukraine - just as usual they will not be able to agree - the flip side of the medal of the cult of independence.
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  33. Neophyte
    Neophyte 28 January 2014 12: 23
    +3
    Recently I looked through Ukrainian sites, I was surprised that, as in Western ones, like Ternopil, they praise
    Zapadentsev. Mol, such cultural, in comparison, with eastern Ukrainians.
    It seems that Ukraine has died and there is only one way out: to scatter.
  34. VadimSt
    VadimSt 28 January 2014 12: 33
    0
    The independent press is famous for the fact that it depends only on those who pay!
    Sometimes one marvels at the presentation of its individual representatives from the Maidan Maidan, in the style: "Glorious to the son of the Cossacks" and so on. Where is the Cossacks there? From Ternopil, Rovenshcheny, Ivano-Frankivsk or Lviv? If the Cossacks were there, it was only with campaigns against the Poles and their loyal subjects.
  35. demon184
    demon184 28 January 2014 13: 07
    +2
    In Russia, too, these channels through 1 yes and pro-government channels sometimes freeze such things that you won’t understand whose side they are on. On Sunday, he listened to the car radio, where the presenter directly scattered in compliments to the nickname and how well done he was and what he wrote on Facebook in support of the Maidan. Why I don’t understand the Maidan, the word is of Turkic origin.
  36. 31231
    31231 28 January 2014 13: 24
    +9
    Who agrees - support by voting. So that svidomye and bendery in the chat do not feel support for themselves.
  37. Jeglov
    Jeglov 28 January 2014 14: 46
    +2
    I wrote the truth in the article! I agree 100%! I have a work colleague, sysadmin, or whatever they call it. "Svidomo", but not on the Maidan. It looks like "Svidomo" and moonlights - trolls on the forums on the sly. I'm interested in his way of arguing live. As a lawyer, I know the reasoning, but he has problems with it. But, which is characteristic, the absence of arguments is more than compensated for by verbal cliches as from a manual. For example, ask him a substantive question: what will European integration give us, apart from the collapse of industry? Tell me point by point, and he will answer you: do you want to live like in Switzerland? I'm at a loss, but what does Switzerland have to do with it, I'm talking about the benefits of European integration. There was no answer, but there was a tirade about "evil power". Attempts to return the dialogue to a substantive channel and learn about points "a", "b", and "c" leave deep "jungles" at the level of the unconscious. And they also say that lawyers are lovers of chatting. If I had come to the court with such arguments, the judge would have kicked me out of the session with his knee in the ass and would have written out a private presentation.
    Say, this is a special case ... Nothing of the kind, open the Internet forums of Ukraine. Look how many "Bots" or "Trolls" there are (sorry, I'm confused in terminology). The reasoning is the same. At the level, he is a fool. They take it not by reasoning, but by quantity. The main thing is to give more.
  38. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 28 January 2014 14: 46
    +4
    Ukrainian maydanutye svidomites for the most part belong to a unique breed of fools who manage to ignore obvious things if they are at odds with the "party line".
    Even after the results of the forensic examination were made public, Ukrainian euro-morons are trying to earn political balls on the corpses and continue songs on the theme of "Russian sniper" or "shooting golden eagle". Well, you will have to explain the degree of their idiocy to the European fools in the pictures and at the same time warn them against possible problems. So, "Sergei Nigoyan was found to have bodily injuries from 2 penetrating blind shot wounds of the chest with damage to the lungs and heart, as well as a non-penetrating wound in the temporal region of the head. The death of Mikhail Zhiznevsky came from a perforating gunshot wound to the chest with damage to the aorta in the heart. In the first case, the injury was caused by buckshot based on a lead alloy, in the second - by a hunting bullet. "
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 28 January 2014 15: 03
      +4
      Roman 1977
      and that’s why they’re afraid of an article about defamation
  39. Cormorants
    Cormorants 28 January 2014 14: 47
    +4
    Thank the author! Good luck there in Ukraine, hold on, with God!
    1. Jeglov
      Jeglov 28 January 2014 15: 02
      +3
      Sense, hold on! Yanyk and PR today all merge! Azarov wrote a resignation. Laws repealed. Crap a little bit liquid. We are waiting for the kingdom of European Gauleiter!
      1. shark
        shark 28 January 2014 17: 32
        +3
        I agree. Dill was drained in full. The guarantee is called)))) The guys who froze in the frost were framed (I'm talking about the Berkut) Now we will observe the "new, free" life of our neighbors. I feel there will be many interesting events. And by the way, it would not be bad for those Berkutovites Those who do not want to become objects of criminal prosecution of the Maydanuts and Eurogauleiter, we have to priyutit. We here really need real men.
  40. Avas2006
    Avas2006 28 January 2014 15: 06
    +3
    I support the author.
    Against the background of the sophisticated, tendentious, persistent propaganda of the "orange" channels, timid attempts to provide objective information from other channels are simply lost.
  41. Pancreas
    Pancreas 28 January 2014 15: 41
    +1
    Gays, lesbians and pedophiles - Welcome to Ukraine !!!

    Photoshoot of Ukrainian boxers Klitschko for the magazine MAX (2003) is designed in the style of unobtrusive gay erotica.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 28 January 2014 18: 12
      +3
      are these two sisters? laughing
      1. Borz
        Borz 28 January 2014 18: 47
        +3
        Sister is the middle floor.
  42. Burmistr
    Burmistr 28 January 2014 16: 21
    +1
    Sad things are happening in an independent. Interestingly, there are probably Russian channels in Ukraine, do people watch them or not?
    1. Jeglov
      Jeglov 28 January 2014 16: 48
      +1
      Look! Cable and Digital TV.
  43. Serafim1983
    Serafim1983 28 January 2014 17: 03
    +2
    Quote: 31231
    Who agrees - support by voting. So that svidomye and bendery in the chat do not feel support for themselves.

    An excellent video broadcast throughout Ukraine and Russia so that people would see that there are leaders in Ukraine !!! Thanks to Eugene !!!
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  45. Sashko07
    Sashko07 28 January 2014 17: 14
    +11
    We are gathering in our city in defense of the Nazis. The media call us aunts.
  46. Djozz
    Djozz 28 January 2014 17: 16
    +1
    -I would never have thought that "Field of Miracles" is so similar to a garbage dump, Buratino exclaimed in bewilderment when he saw the place where the robbers Basilio the Cat and Alice the Fox took him! All these TV sluts and magazine sluts prdazhnaya M.R.A.Z. are ready to serve everyone for money.
  47. Black
    Black 28 January 2014 17: 25
    +2
    Quote: Cormorants
    Good luck there in Ukraine, hold on, with God!


    Good luck. We all on our land will win this information war.
    And it must begin with the development of a national idea, the basis of which should be a national-patriotic beginning.
    A state armed with doctrine, cleansed of the "white tape" - is able to "cleanse" any
    "rain", "1 + 1", like two or two.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 28 January 2014 18: 30
      +2
      rain is already being cleaned
  48. d-shvets
    d-shvets 28 January 2014 18: 16
    +3
    The information war is the most effective in terms of investments and results, especially in the century when information is spreading at the speed of light.
  49. Old scoop
    Old scoop 28 January 2014 18: 43
    +3
    Judging by all of our oligarchy, they don’t give a damn about the fate of Ukraine as a country, just to snatch a shmat juicier. It does not matter with whom, with Russia or Europe, the question is what will they remain with then. Politics is clearly not the horse of our celestials, not that level, hence our troubles. Well, the economy from the same opera.
    Our media simply howl with one voice about violence by security forces, although you can just watch live broadcasts without cuts and make sure that VV and Berkut were simply trampled into asphalt. Informational prostitution. One must think what to watch and where to watch.
  50. silver_roman
    silver_roman 28 January 2014 19: 05
    +5
    And when one of the leading channels of the country shows this, it causes reflex rejection, after which you begin to think about a lot.

    Unfortunately, not everyone includes the brain.
    In general, I came to the conclusion (which probably has long existed in the form of whole manuals for the struggle against revolutionaries) that the crowd is a dumb creature !!!
    even if it contains not only "Driopithecus" like UPA or UNA-UNSO. Even if there are relatively educated people in the crowd, who are only like that alone or in a close circle, it is only necessary for a couple of grantees to shout out something like "Ukraine, we are decreasing, for freedom ..." and so on. and immediately the brains turn into jelly and the crowd becomes wildly controlled and completely unconscious. And if you also initiate like a crowd of pumped-up berkut workers in vests beat up a pregnant pensioner - a disabled person, then EVERYTHING, what is happening now in the center of my Motherland begins !!!
    Of course, Western propaganda technologies work at their best!