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Russia is preparing to send three spacecraft to the moon

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Russia is preparing to return to a large space race by launching three new spacecraft intended for the study of the Moon. The first stage of this space program is currently being implemented. Funding is under way for the creation of the first three spacecraft, which will receive the designations “Luna-25”, “Luna-26” and “Luna-27”, Russian Interfax news agency reports, citing Lev Zeleny, who holds the post of vice-president of the Russian Academy of Sciences, as well as being the director of the Space Research Institute. The new Russian vehicles will continue the baton of Soviet satellites, which were used to survey the moon. Hence their ordinal notation.


During the time of the USSR existence, two moon rovers were sent to the Moon, which successfully worked on its surface, and also three automatic missions were carried out, which delivered samples of lunar soil to our planet. At the same time, in the USSR, all studies on the natural satellite of the Earth were halted in 1976 year. Since then, domestic spacecraft have not flown to the moon. Despite this, Russia is ready to re-launch its own lunar program, sending three different spacecraft to our satellite at once.

The last domestic device that investigated the Moon is the automatic interplanetary station (AMS) "Luna-24". This unit was launched on 9 August 1976. Already on August 13, the AMC went into orbit of the moon, and on August 18 made a soft landing on its surface. The mission of this spacecraft was to conduct sampling of lunar soil. The drill module installed at the station went deep into the lunar soil to a depth of 225 centimeters by taking it. The day after that, the take-off stage sent the samples back to Earth, the landing of the module with lunar soil occurred in the Tyumen region 22 August 1976 of the year.

Russia is preparing to send three spacecraft to the moon

Remarkable is the fact that after the "Moon-24" earthly apparatuses did not land on the lunar surface for long 37 years. Interrupted this "lunar lull" the first Chinese lunar rover called "Yuytu" (Jade hare), landed on the moon 14 December 2013 of the year. The first tasks of the device began to perform 22 December, and 25 December for a period of moonlit night, he was put into sleep mode. Having successfully survived the moonlit night, the 11 moon rover of January was again activated, but already on January 25 a number of faults were detected in its work. Because of this, the Jade Hare was again put into sleep mode. For this reason, the success of the PRC's lunar program is currently under question.

As Leo Green notes, the Luna-25 and Luna-27 spacecraft will have to land on the Moon, and the Luna-26 will be put into orbit as a natural satellite of the Earth. This unit will be engaged in its remote sensing, and will also perform the functions of a signal repeater. According to the scientist, the launch of the apparatus "Luna-25" is scheduled for 2016 year, "Luna-26" - for 2018 year, "Luna-27" - for 2019 year. Lev Zeleny noted that these launches will be a continuation of the Soviet program, which contained two landings of lunar rovers, which successfully worked on the lunar surface, as well as three successful launches of automatic missions, which resulted in the delivery of lunar soil samples to Earth.

He noted that these were very serious achievements, they can be called great. Lev Zeleny hopes that the Russian space station Luna-25 will be able to successfully land on the lunar surface. At the same time, Russia expects to send the spacecraft not to those areas where research was conducted in the 1970s, but directly to the poles of the natural satellite of the Earth. These polar regions of the moon are still insufficiently studied by earthly scientists, although they certainly are of particular interest to modern science. Lev Green noted that the second stage of the Russian lunar program involves sending two more automatic stations - Luna-28 and Luna-29. The first of these is the return of lunar soil to Earth, the second is work on the surface of a natural satellite of the Russian lunar rover.

SC "Luna-Glob" or "Luna-25"

Earlier, the general director of the NPO. Lavochkin Victor Hartov told the press that the flight of the Luna-25 vehicle "would be for the most part demonstration." The purpose of this flight is the implementation of the landing apparatus near the south pole of the moon. On the device "Luna-25" the minimum set of scientific devices will be used, the design of the device was also somewhat simplified. The purpose of this launch is to return to our country the confidence that it is able to land spacecraft on the lunar surface, said Victor Hartov.

It should be noted that the apparatus "Luna-Glob" is hidden under the name "Luna-25". In October of last year, it was reported that the vibration-proof, design and antenna models of the Luna-Glob lunar probe are ready and are currently at different stages of testing. At the same time, the technical model of the spacecraft - the last stage before the construction of the flight sample itself, which will fly to the Moon - will be completed by the end of 2014. The new version of the project of the Luna-Glob probe was finally approved at the end of last year and implies minimizing the use of technical solutions that do not have flight qualifications. Everything in this Russian device should be sharpened on reliability and a guarantee of mission accomplishment.

After the "Moon-25" to the natural satellite of the Earth will fly "Luna-26" - the orbiter, on board which will be the repeater, which will ensure the work with subsequent Russian devices sent to the Moon, said Hartov. In this case we are talking about the device, which is also known as "Luna Resource". According to Viktor Hartov, such an orbital probe, located in the lunar orbit, can provide invaluable assistance in the future, allowing you to contact the landing module if there is no direct radio-visibility with our planet. The Luna-26 spacecraft should become one of the elements of the Russian lunar orbital infrastructure.

SC "Luna Resource" or "Luna-26"

The Luna-27 spacecraft will be a heavy landing probe that must be moored at the South Pole of our natural satellite. It will carry a drilling rig on board, which Russian scientists plan to use to search for water ice. “You should not hope that it will be possible to find pieces of ice on the lunar surface. In a vacuum, everything quickly disappears. Most likely, we can talk about finding a regolith, which will contain a certain percentage of ice at a certain depth. In order to obtain such samples, a powerful landing stage equipped with a drilling rig will be included in the Luna-27 mission, ”said Victor Hartov.

According to the specialist, the lunar soil with some content of frozen water can be located at a depth of about two meters from the lunar surface. “Therefore, it will be necessary to dig up to a depth of about two meters, get a regolith from it, and study it on the surface of the satellite. For this, Luna-27 will receive all the necessary scientific instruments and equipment, ”stressed Harts.

The next mission, called “Luna-28”, will be the main one. Sending to the Moon of this spacecraft involves the delivery to the Earth of samples of regolith mixed with ice, preferably in the form in which it is located on the Moon, without transferring the ice to water.

Information sources:
http://rus.ruvr.ru/news/2014_01_23/Rossija-gotovit-k-zapusku-tri-lunnih-kosmicheskih-apparata-8525
http://rushor.com/news/3897
http://ria.ru/science/20130827/958857410.html
http://kursk.com/news/hitech/6171.html
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  1. Stiletto
    Stiletto 27 January 2014 09: 06
    +14
    However, it is time to return before the Moon at all becomes yellow-striped ...
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 09: 46
      0
      Quote: Stiletto
      However, it is time to return before the Moon at all becomes yellow-striped ...


      And he will not, when God forbid, so that everything succeeds. I personally will be interested in observing the rhetoric of all-ringer on the topic Stop the collapse of the space industry.
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 27 January 2014 10: 22
        +29
        Let's go!
        So you want something breakthrough-fantastic))) repeat
        1. AVV
          AVV 27 January 2014 11: 03
          +7
          Gorbachev-Yeltsin times pushed the exploration of the moon for a long time, now Russia will return to the lunar program, not all Chinese on stolen technologies will be number 1 at this time in the exploration of the moon !!!
        2. iwind
          iwind 27 January 2014 11: 07
          +5
          Quote: Samaritan
          Let's go!
          So you want something breakthrough-fantastic)))

          Well, not to say that this is something completely fantastic.
          Of course the Virgin Galactic project is much smaller, but very interesting.

        3. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 27 January 2014 20: 46
          +1
          I don’t just feel like it. By and large, jumpers with a drill are pointless. Well, the achievement is at the level of 76 of the year! This is not a return to the moon, this is a return to the diaper. It doesn’t suit an adult who is agonizing, funny and sad - either he’s crazy, or he’s fooling around like that ....
          If you return, then it should be - on a new machine and with a new task. With such that it is worthy of a space power in the 21 century. Your computer picture - that would be worthy.
          1. Metlik
            Metlik 28 January 2014 04: 49
            +1
            The main task, as I understand it, is to revive the system of real space quality of our devices. Just do not reinvent the wheel and learn from your mistakes. For starters, you can take an existing quality system such as Toyota.
            In general, it is necessary to deal with this purposefully, the formation of a state body with great authority and research functions, which would inspect strategic enterprises of the Russian Federation with quality problems.
            1. Kir
              Kir 28 January 2014 04: 56
              +1
              Just don't need another organ, otherwise it's just like Tolstoy's "Aelita"
              (long read, and therefore in the sense)
              To create a sort of commission independent of all ..... which (according to the character) should have been involved in the supervision of others.
              Here it is necessary to strain those who already have it, and even with the strongest reduction of parasites in the face of all kinds of devices and other prohibitively large, and even reduce without any benefits and parachutes there.
              1. Metlik
                Metlik 28 January 2014 05: 04
                0
                I understand that the number of officials is already going wild. But who is really in the state responsible for the implementation of quality standards? Why are there so many industrial disasters?
                Why, for example, AK assault rifles, Mi helicopters have become a legend of quality in the world market, at the same time, our cars are inferior (to put it mildly) foreign cars? The only one owner is the state, is it really impossible to extend useful experience to those who are lagging behind?

                It is time to stop the practice - the worse the state-owned enterprise - the better the officials - you can privatize and plunder.
                1. Kir
                  Kir 28 January 2014 05: 23
                  0
                  It turns out interestingly, there are so many of them that ......, But who is really responsible for what, oh yes, they are responsible for timely salaries and bonuses with dividends to themselves and their loved ones, the family is more important than the State !!! So it comes out while you and your interests are more important than the State, and the life of a person? sacred and other "values" will be the main ones, so we will sit in a certain substance.
                  Regarding the proven ones by the quality of Names, so forgive me, what was the culture and discipline in these industries? And with regards to civilian cars, so forgive me, here you were wrong and We have victories, only they are few and they are old, and then Engineering thought began to live for the most part in its own world, and life itself went on an outdated track, and here it is not at the top but at the middle level, and why, and since the number of specialists from year to year became less and more of thieves, the demand from personnel was stricter and stayed longer!
                  And what is the conclusion? The introduction of not only personal, but also Credible responsibility with all that it implies can correct the situation !!! and then it will be necessary either forward without looking back at all defenders and all rights of "personalities" and their loved ones, or to say now not 37! and then no longer stutter about anything good for the People and the State!
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 27 January 2014 14: 26
      +4
      Quote: Stiletto
      However, it is time to return before the Moon at all becomes yellow-striped ...


      Judging by a run of a hare, it definitely won’t turn yellow, and by the absence of wheels it’s already Russian.
  2. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 27 January 2014 09: 07
    +6
    While we are about to launch a satellite, the Chinese will land their "taikonauts" on the moon ...
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 27 January 2014 18: 10
      +1
      The Chinese are already digging a tunnel there! fellow
      yes two!
      one over there
      another back
      probably to return the soil back wassat
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  3. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 27 January 2014 09: 08
    +3
    Well say good luck! smile
  4. Canep
    Canep 27 January 2014 09: 08
    +1
    Previously, Director General of the NGO named after Lavochkina Viktor Khartov told the press that the flight of the Luna-25 apparatus "will be for the most part demonstrative."
    wassat throw a few tons of cargo onto the moon just to show ourselves that we can still. Money nowhere to go? Or another drank dough?
    1. Lk17619
      Lk17619 27 January 2014 12: 08
      +4
      Not only cut, but also a test of technology, if it makes sense to launch the next or modify.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 27 January 2014 16: 40
      +3
      here the main question is how many tons can we bring from the Moon to Earth.
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  5. bairat
    bairat 27 January 2014 09: 15
    -1
    Window dressing is all, there is nothing to do on the moon (and on Mars too). Siberia and the Arctic need to be developed, our real wealth is there.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 27 January 2014 12: 51
      0
      There is such a factor as: Helium 3
      1. Canep
        Canep 27 January 2014 16: 49
        +1
        Helium-3 needs to learn to apply forward.
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    3. shuhartred
      shuhartred 27 January 2014 15: 32
      +10
      Quote: bairat
      Window dressing is all, there is nothing to do on the moon (and on Mars too). Siberia and the Arctic need to be developed, our real wealth is there.

      Akhtung Akhtung is a forum reptilian agent. laughing wassat But seriously, there really is something to do there. And then later it will be so late that even cry, even hang yourself, but no longer catch up angry
  6. umah
    umah 27 January 2014 09: 26
    +7
    Money nowhere to go? Or another drank dough?

    Probably the flight of the Luna-25 apparatus should be perceived as the development of technologies so as not to miss the more expensive apparatuses with scientific equipment.
  7. HAM
    HAM 27 January 2014 09: 26
    +5
    quote: however, on January 25, a number of malfunctions were discovered in his work. Because of this, the "Jade Hare" was again put into sleep mode.

    OH, again, these Chinese chips!
  8. Garik
    Garik 27 January 2014 09: 40
    +4
    Quote: bairat
    Window dressing is all, there is nothing to do on the moon (and on Mars too). Siberia and the Arctic need to be developed, our real wealth is there.


    What makes you think that there are no minerals on the moon? This is the same Siberia with its resources and subsoil, which in the near future will start to open a mouth for everyone who is not lazy as is happening with the Arctic. And Siberia is not bottomless.
    1. bairat
      bairat 27 January 2014 09: 48
      -5
      Quote: Garik
      What makes you think that there are no minerals on the moon? This is the same Siberia with its resources and subsoil, which in the near future will start to open a mouth for everyone who is not lazy as is happening with the Arctic. And Siberia is not bottomless.

      Since in the first place they simply are not there, in the second place it is not economically profitable at all. In Siberia and the Arctic of resources for centuries, we need to work out mining technologies on the seabed and not spend money on public relations projects.
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    3. Letun
      Letun 27 January 2014 10: 51
      0
      Will we take out minerals by train?
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 28 January 2014 20: 15
        0
        Will we take out minerals by train?
        You are not destined to see it - why bother ?! fool
  9. svskor80
    svskor80 27 January 2014 10: 00
    +4
    It can be considered a training before the development of more distant objects, since for Russia in the flight to the moon there is nothing new. The break, of course, was a big one, personnel and technologies needed to be caught up. It is undesirable to fall out of cosmos, all the same the future is there.
    1. Alwizard
      Alwizard 27 January 2014 19: 09
      0
      For Russia, EVERYTHING regarding flights to the moon is new, actually.
  10. Garik
    Garik 27 January 2014 10: 30
    +1
    Quote: bairat
    Since in the first place they simply are not there

    What is such a strong conviction based on? And what exactly do you think is not there?

    The moon also has a variety of minerals, including metals valuable to industry - iron, aluminum, titanium; in addition, in the surface layer of lunar soil, regolith, a rare helium-3 isotope is accumulated on Earth, which can be used as fuel for promising thermonuclear reactors. Currently, there are development of methods for industrial production of metals, oxygen and helium-3 from regolith; found water ice deposits.
    http://ru.wikipedia.org

    Moreover, her research is only entering the active phase. And the experience of our young designers in space exploration technologies will not hurt.
    1. bairat
      bairat 27 January 2014 10: 50
      -1
      Iron, aluminum and titanium brought from the moon will be 10 times more expensive than gold. There is helium-3, there is no technology for its use, only theory. For the sake of this, I consider it not advisable to spend my research potential on real projects, but on public relations.
      1. Lk17619
        Lk17619 27 January 2014 12: 12
        +4
        Quote: bairat
        to spend my research potential not on real projects but on public relations I think is inappropriate.

        Well, actually, when practicing technologies for flying to the moon, many of the technologies obtained can be applied both in everyday life and in mundane life, as well as microcircuits in computers, etc. There are many applications.
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        2. bairat
          bairat 27 January 2014 12: 46
          -3
          I don’t know if it is worth investing a lot of money for this. We have not mastered the north and east, there are no roads, we drive all along winter roads and frozen rivers, in the summer there are impassable swamps.
          1. Garik
            Garik 27 January 2014 14: 06
            +8
            If humanity followed your logic, it would still be believed that the earth is flat and that fire is a gift from the gods. I am also a conservative of its kind, but I consider the costs of prospective research into peaceful outer space for the benefit of man, a Russian man, justified. Sincerely.
            1. bairat
              bairat 27 January 2014 15: 27
              -3
              Quote: Garik
              If humanity followed your logic, it would still be believed that the earth is flat and that fire is a gift from the gods. I am also a conservative of its kind, but I consider the costs of prospective research into peaceful outer space for the benefit of man, a Russian man, justified. Sincerely.

              Can you imagine the scale of the funds that will be spent on this expedition?
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          2. rolik
            rolik 27 January 2014 14: 51
            +8
            Quote: bairat
            I don’t know if it is worth investing a lot of money for this.
            An interesting position sometimes develops with us. The Chinese launched a lunar rover - screams began that everything, now the moon is Chinese, we can’t do anything, are forever behind. Now we launch our ships to the moon (as many as 3 pieces) and are again unhappy. What for we need it, money down the drain, not economically. And why then do not talk about Chinese and American products ??? After all, they, too, in your words, throw money into space.
            You already decide, and then one ass on two chairs is hard to fit.
            And the fact that we are now sending ships to the moon is an important reserve for the future. And minerals will be mined on the moon for processing at the lunar factories. For future long-distance expeditions (helium 3 is needed for this). Read Tsiolkovsky and other classics.
            1. bairat
              bairat 27 January 2014 15: 34
              -3
              Quote: rolik
              And why then do not talk about Chinese and American products ??? After all, they, too, in your words, throw money into space.

              Don't confuse me with others, my position in space is unambiguous: communication and observation satellites are definitely needed. Attempts to colonize space are premature, there is no technology yet, we are still in the stage of "trying to swim across the ocean riding on a log." The Chinese and the Americans have extra money - on a good journey, except for the joy of being the first to stick a flag on another planet, there will be nothing useful there. I'm not ready to take off my last pants for this.
              1. dmit-xnumx
                dmit-xnumx 27 January 2014 16: 02
                +4
                Sorry, I interfere in your dispute, but "to swim across the ocean on a log" - this was done by H. Columbus on his fragile caravels, mind you, without Radio, without navigation spacecraft, "without" a lot of things. And Did It!
                1. Kir
                  Kir 27 January 2014 18: 48
                  0
                  You are mistaken much earlier in the III millennium BC, and then in I BC, and not just crossed but gave the foundation upon which the three legendary American civilizations grew: Maya, Inca and Aztecs
                  (See T. Heyerdahl "Ancient Man and the Ocean")
              2. rolik
                rolik 27 January 2014 17: 01
                +4
                Quote: bairat
                Attempts to colonize space are premature

                And when will they be timely ??? When the opponents work out the technologies, at such launches, they will reconnoiter the area where it is more convenient to set up the base. Then, probably, it will be the most, .... only then we will catch up, and not go on a par or get ahead. All great achievements began small. All rocket science, in our country, began with the GIRD and their toy rackets. The photo began with a camera obscura. Cinema from the first movie of the Lumiere brothers. Everything always starts with a small step with a first step.
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            3. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 27 January 2014 20: 22
              +2
              There are simply people who think that it is necessary to move into the future, while others would invest in another pipe so that the West is not cold.
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  11. Stinger
    Stinger 27 January 2014 11: 40
    -2
    It is best to deliver budget money to the moon from a cannon.
    1. Kir
      Kir 27 January 2014 18: 50
      0
      By the way, there were such projects in reality, and not only at J. Verne.
  12. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 27 January 2014 12: 07
    +11
    Still, one should not call the Soviet lunar rovers "lunar rovers" in print. It's like Yuri Gagarin as an astronaut.
    About the benefits. The Americans will build a base on the moon and declare the 200-mile zone around - the exclusive zone of American interests. And what, to the UN to complain? Or start a war? The moon is small, and the supposedly convenient areas for life are near the poles, and they are even smaller, in the form of separate craters. Very quickly all of them will be divided between active participants in the race and we will eat a cactus - "how did it happen, why no one thought in advance."
  13. svoi
    svoi 27 January 2014 12: 10
    +6
    Iron, aluminum and titanium brought from the moon will be 10 times more expensive than gold. There is helium-3, there is no technology for its use, only theory. For the sake of this, I consider it not advisable to spend my research potential on real projects, but on public relations. 1. Technological race, significant, lagging behind the leaders leads to ... 2. Touching the future, how will it be there? No one wanted to explore the Arctic, except for the USSR, and there it turned out. 3. The prestige of the country is also not an empty phrase. Surely there are 4 more; 5; 6 etc. And about the money - if you have smaller sporting events, then stop bringing this moon here altogether, and then saw it, in every sense. (I do not like emoticons, here, like, he)
  14. brainkiller
    brainkiller 27 January 2014 12: 14
    +4
    Quote: bairat
    For the sake of this, I consider it not advisable to spend my research potential on real projects, but on public relations.
    These projects (ala remember the past) confirm serious personnel problems in space science and perhaps serve as training for reviving research potential or maintaining it at the proper level.
    Space science needs money, which means that projects are needed, projects must be lifting ones - that’s what we remember.

    As for mining, take a look at the subject of asteroids, many minds are already thinking about how to bring their reserves to the ground.
  15. spirit
    spirit 27 January 2014 13: 25
    +1
    AHAHAH! I present an extract from foreign newspapers !! Green Leo promised to send 3 spacecraft to the moon! Leo? Green? where are the bears? Foreign reader will think laughing laughing laughing
  16. rotor
    rotor 27 January 2014 13: 29
    +2
    Russia can get ahead of the Chinese on the moon and Mars!

    Can stake out useful places on the Moon and the Lagrange points near it.

    It is not for nothing that US President L. Johnson said: "He who owns the cosmos owns the world."
    1. rotor
      rotor 27 January 2014 13: 51
      0
      It is also necessary to build a nuclear space tug, a reusable lunar lander and a reusable rocket.
  17. sinukvl
    sinukvl 27 January 2014 14: 01
    +2
    Really the cosmonautics began to object. This can not but rejoice!
  18. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 27 January 2014 14: 10
    +2
    Right. Let at least something remember how to do it. How is there something to solder, how to write programs, etc. If you do nothing, then nothing but Phobos soil will never work. And in vain they immediately take up the Boers. You just need to sit down there a few times and send telegrams like "everything is all right" in order to learn how to do this and debug everything.
  19. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 27 January 2014 15: 45
    +1
    The moon is needed precisely as the base of the jump, to longer flights. There are probably minerals there, although their development seems to me to be a more distant future. But to organize the assembly of large structures, in conditions of reduced gravity, it seems very tempting.

    The most important thing is that the development of space technologies, in the context of international competition, moves forward a large number of related industries, almost like during the war, only without heavy casualties.
  20. AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 27 January 2014 15: 54
    +1
    It seems that Russia has decided to tickle the nerves of the Amers, I imagine what problems there will be in Houston due to the possibility of the Russians opening their frauds, the pressure will be serious, we are waiting for legal guests and not so. if they don’t agree, they will impede the start and control, they are not the first time. an interesting detail is an emphasized distance from the Apollonian regions, such an ingenuous hint
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 27 January 2014 20: 15
      +2
      Yes, they even in the era of "flights" "Apollo" smelled. For silence, America made many concessions to the USSR. And we played along with silence.
  21. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 27 January 2014 16: 36
    0
    Quote: bairat
    I don’t know if it is worth investing a lot of money for this. We have not mastered the north and east, there are no roads, we drive all along winter roads and frozen rivers, in the summer there are impassable swamps.

    Huge and do not invest. Roads to the north and east need to be built. But science is also needed. And space. For example, you need to protect yourself from asteroids. And then a stone with a diameter of 10 kilometers will fall, and all of them will end up. And there would be an inexpensive apparatus with some efficient engines, electro-reactive, for example, and launch it at the right time to deflect the asteroid ahead of time to the smallest angle, and it would never collide with the Earth. But this device should be available, and will start when necessary. If you do not fly anywhere and do nothing, then nothing will ever happen. And Kamenuka can fly at any time. Even right now.
  22. lazy
    lazy 27 January 2014 17: 08
    0
    He put the article a plus, because at least they began to do something, but a good thing should be done minus because the repetition of the passed, they instead of the moon-25, in the archives they would have drawn the drawings of the moon-16 and started right away with the delivery of soil to the ground, or only in the third the apparatus is sad
  23. askold
    askold 27 January 2014 17: 13
    0
    Well, good news, - good luck to young people in their endeavors, and most importantly, - sober calculation and then everything will work out !!! I liked that the names of the lunar probes were left numbered, - the continuity of generations, like they didn't wait for US, but WE returned. better than "Luna-GLOBE" and "Phobos-ground" and consonant with them, as someone already wrote, here on the site - "Luna-GROB" and "Phobos into the ground" we will roll. How do you call the yacht ... We are waiting, we hope and believe.
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  26. Kir
    Kir 27 January 2014 19: 01
    0
    Some caring "economists" should have noticed this already happened when the defense industry forgot to churn out the pans ?, and that greatly helped to save money, Huh? There is a much more mundane way, but also a more complicated one, this is a cut of often exorbitantly inflated salaries and states you know which ones !!!, with these funds, the Space cruiser and more than one can be rebuilt, and even a carriage and a small cart will remain for the development of the Arctic!
    Of expediency, of course, excuse me, but some experiments in the conditions of the Earth, not only will they not only be comparable in cost, but it is likely that they will be more expensive, the output will also be much weaker!
  27. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 27 January 2014 20: 25
    +2
    Everything related to the space and military industries gives the state the prerogative in the development of technology. And technology is the development of all structures of society. It is only necessary to use them WITH MIND, then there will be a return. Those who say that it is better to eat this money do not see beyond their own noses and live one day. Most of the new technologies in the days of the Union came from the space and military industries. Materials, household chemicals, electronics, medicine and much more came to ordinary people thanks to science, which developed to fulfill the tasks.
    Tomorrow we will cast space, the day after tomorrow we will forget how to make normal pans. And after a couple of days we will be like Papuans with their knowledge of making a bonfire with bamboo sticks.
  28. Nitarius
    Nitarius 27 January 2014 22: 13
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    I am pleased to! that PEOPLE are happy!
    as they say PEOPLE HAVE! Grandmas are flowing by the river!
    It seems that the people have something to do! and WORK ALL is enough!
    ONLY VISITING ME - TO US (the people) CHEATED WITH A MOON RACE!
    We are hushed up - WHAT FOUND ON THE MOON!
    Keep silent about UFOs .....
    THERE ARE LONG ALTERNATIVE TYPES OF MOVEMENT .......


    MAYBE TO START-THE PEOPLE WILL SHOW WHERE AND WHY why they created the plates HANDSHIELD AA ???

    WHEN THE PEOPLE WILL FINISH FOUND THAT ???
    1. Kir
      Kir 27 January 2014 22: 26
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      And then take and find a 3D model of this miracle. Well, I generally keep quiet about the quality of the "documentary" video.
  29. Nitarius
    Nitarius 27 January 2014 22: 15
    -2
    and THERE DIVED TO FISH - FISH ??? like a bag with a GUY is straight ..... WE DO NOT WANT IT TALKING .. AND HOW IT WILL BE TELL ABOUT THE MOON --- DO NOT mix my shackles in this slavish the world
  30. uzer 13
    uzer 13 28 January 2014 01: 41
    +1
    The moon is always turned to the Earth on one side. This is a good reason to place monitoring and reconnaissance equipment on it. In the future, an inhabited module, coordination and control systems will fly into the penny, of course, but these are very real projects. That is, you can build a new space station, only not orbital, but stationary, more durable.
  31. ddd1975
    ddd1975 28 January 2014 06: 24
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    Well, why would you need to create something to create something? The moon should be ours, it's time to take revenge from the amers.
  32. Manul
    Manul 28 January 2014 10: 57
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    How many failures have already happened ... If only it turned out!
  33. alexgrin
    alexgrin 30 March 2014 14: 06
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    Why explore the moon again? How much is already possible? Some investigated, others investigated, 3 investigated ... then again, the first to be investigated ... Yes, how much can you? The Americans already managed to jump there, and we are all exploring. Send astronauts there already. If it’s right for you to research something, then let them spend an extra hour and collect the necessary soil for you! A waste of time, money and patience is called!
  34. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 4 May 2014 17: 36
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    Sending the devices ... resuming the lunar program ... exploring the lunar surface - everything sounds wonderful, the development of research in outer space is pleasing.

    I would like to understand what we want to achieve from all research programs ... what's new in this work ... and what the purpose of the scientific program is.
    Are these launches and studies part of what ?? ... programs of landing and building stations on the moon ??