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Day of the complete liberation of Leningrad from the blockade. The myth of the need to surrender the city without a fight

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70 years ago, 27 January 1944, the Soviet troops completely lifted the blockade of Leningrad that lasted 900 days. German troops surrounded the second capital of the Soviet Union 8 September 1941. But the most important political, industrial and cultural center of the USSR, despite fierce battles, bombings and artillery shelling, withstood the onslaught of the enemy. Then the German command decided to take the city into oblivion.


It should be noted that not only German troops took part in the siege of Leningrad, but also the Finnish army, the Spanish units (the Blue Division), European volunteers, and the Italian Navy, which lent the character of civilization confrontation to the defense of Leningrad. The main road on which the country could supply the city was the “Road of Life” for a long time - an ice road on Lake Ladoga. The capacity of this transport artery could not meet all the needs of a huge city, so Leningrad lost from 700 thousand to 1,5 million people. The overwhelming majority of people died from hunger and cooling caused by a shortage of fuel and food. Especially large losses occurred in the first blockade winter. Subsequently, the supply improved, subsidiary farms were organized. Deaths have become much smaller.

The Siege of Leningrad has become one of the most heroic and terrible pages of the Great Patriotic War. Suffice it to recall the poignant diary of a Leningrad schoolgirl Tatiana Savicheva. The document contains only 9 pages, and six of them are dedicated to the death of people close to her - mother, grandmother, sister, brother and two uncles ("The Savichevs died. All died. Only Tanya was left"). Virtually the entire family died during the first blockade winter: from December 1941 to May 1942. Tanya herself was rescued by being evacuated to the “mainland”. But the girl’s health was undermined, and she died in the 1944 year.

At the cost of great losses and incredible efforts, the Red Army was able to literally break through the powerful German defenses during Operation Iskra (Operation Spark. To the 70 anniversary of the breakthrough of the blockade of Leningrad). The troops of the Leningrad and Volkhov fronts to 18 January 1943, broke through a small corridor along the shore of Lake Ladoga, restoring the land connection of the city with the country. Here, in the shortest possible time, they laid a railway branch and a motorway (“Victory Road”). This allowed to evacuate a significant part of the civilian population and to organize the supply of the city.

At the beginning of 1944, in the Leningrad region, the Red Army conducted an offensive strategic operation (the first “Stalinist strike”), which led to the final de-blockade of Leningrad. As a result of a number of strategic operations, among which are the Stalingrad battle, the battle of Oryol and Kursk, the Donbass operation and the battle for the Dnieper, conducted by the Red Army in 1943, by the beginning of 1944, the situation was favorable.

At the same time, the German armed forces still represented a serious force. The Wehrmacht retained combat capability, could conduct military operations, controlled significant areas of the USSR. In addition, the absence of a second front in Western Europe contributed to the Germans, allowing Berlin to concentrate its main efforts on the Eastern Front. The military operations that took place in Italy, in their scope and significance, could not have a serious impact on the Wehrmacht.

In December 1943, the Stavka decided to organize a series of strikes against enemy troops from Leningrad to the Black Sea, focusing mainly on the flanks of the Soviet-German front. In the southern direction, they planned to liberate the Crimea, Right-Bank Ukraine, and reach the USSR state border. In the north, crush the Army Group North, completely lift the blockade from Leningrad, liberate the Baltic States.

The task of liberating Leningrad and defeating Army Group North was accomplished by the troops of the Leningrad Front, Volkhov Front, 2nd Baltic Front and the Red Banner Baltic fleet (The first "Stalinist strike": the complete elimination of the blockade of Leningrad). On January 14, with the Oranienbaum bridgehead, the 2 shock army of the Leningrad Front launched an offensive. On January 15, the 42 Army LF launched an offensive. The Volkhov Front also struck 14 in January. The enemy, relying on well-prepared defensive lines, put up stubborn resistance. The factor of the marshy-wooded area also had an effect. The start of a thaw, unexpected for January, interfered with the action of armored vehicles.

19 January, Soviet troops liberated Ropsha and Krasnoye Selo. German troops were driven back from Leningrad on 25 km, the Peterhof-Strelinsky group of the enemy was broken, partially surrounded and destroyed. The Mginsk group was under the threat of encirclement, the Germans began to hastily withdraw troops. On January 20, the troops of the Volkhov Front liberated Novgorod (The first "Stalinist strike." Part of 2. The liberation of Veliky Novgorod from the German invaders).


Soviet soldiers raise a red flag over liberated Gatchina, January 26 1944

For the whole of the ancient Russian city, which was a major scientific, cultural, and industrial center before the war, only 40 buildings remained intact. The greatest monuments of ancient Russian architecture and painting were destroyed. From the temples of the Savior on Ilyina, Peter and Pavel in Kozhevniki only the skeletons of the walls remained, the Nikolsky Cathedral was destroyed, the Sofia Cathedral was looted and partially destroyed. Novgorod Kremlin suffered a lot. The German military-political leadership, which planned to give the Novgorod land for settlement to the East Prussian colonists, tried to wipe off all evidence of the Russian historical and cultural presence in this territory. The monument to the Millennium of Russia was dismantled and planned to be melted down.

On January 30, Soviet soldiers liberated Pushkin, Slutsk, Krasnogvardeisk and reached the line of the Luga River in its lower course, taking several bridgeheads. During this period, the Soviet partisans sharply intensified their actions. The German command had to throw not only separate security divisions, but also a battalion from each field division to fight them. The central headquarters of the partisan movement organized a series of attacks on the German rear.

27 January in Moscow and Leningrad was made a solemn salute in honor of the final de-blockade of the northern capital. Three hundred and twenty-four guns struck in honor of the great victory. The Soviet Union lit a flash of triumphant joy.

The Soviet offensive continued in the Narva, Gdov and Luga sectors. The Germans made strong counterattacks. They even managed to surround the individual Soviet units. Thus, for two weeks, battles were fought, surrounded by a compound of the 256 th rifle division and part of the 372 th rifle division. February 4 was released Gdov, Soviet troops reached the Lake Peipsi. 12 February The Red Army liberated the city of Luga. February 15 was broken through the Luga defensive line. Soviet troops broke into the long-term German defense and drove the Germans back to the Baltic States. Heavy fighting continued until early March, but the Leningrad Front was unable to solve the task of liberating Narva. By the beginning of March 1944, the Soviet troops of the Leningrad and 2 Baltic Fronts (the Volkhov Front was disbanded, most of its troops were transferred to the Leningrad Front, some to the 2 Baltic) reached the line Narva - Lake Peipsi - Pskov - Island - Idritsa. The Germans held onto the Panther line. At the direction of the Stavka, the Soviet fronts turned defensively. For more than a month and a half, they fought hard battles. Army suffered heavy losses in manpower, equipment, experienced an acute shortage of ammunition.

March 13 The Federal Law No. 1995-ФЗ “On the Days of Military Glory (Victory Days) of Russia” was adopted, according to which January 32 celebrates the Day of Military Glory of Russia - the Day of the Blockade of Leningrad (27 year). 1944 November 2, the President signed the Federal Law “On Amendments to Article 2013 of the Federal Law“ On Days of Military Glory and Memorable Dates of Russia ”. The name of the Day of Military Glory was somewhat changed; it became known as the “Day of the complete liberation by the Soviet troops of the city of Leningrad from the blockade by its fascist German forces (1 year)”.

The myth of the possibility of saving the inhabitants of Leningrad

The topic of the blockade of Leningrad did not stay aside from the attention of "humanists and liberals." So, it has been said more than once that if Stalin’s “cannibal regime” had surrendered the city to “European civilizers” (Germans and Finns), it would have been possible to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians in the northern capital.

These people completely forget about the military-strategic factor of Leningrad, when the fall of the northern capital would cause a serious deterioration of the situation on the Soviet-German front. The German command got the opportunity to activate offensive actions in the northern strategic direction and transfer significant forces of the Army Group North to other directions, for example, they would be useful for storming Moscow or seizing the Caucasus. They do not recall the moral factor either: the loss of the northern capital would weaken the spiritual mood of the people and the army at the most critical moment.

The “humanists” do not recall the fact that the Hitlerite leadership planned not only to seize Leningrad, but also completely destroy the city on the Neva. 8 July 1941 at a meeting of the Supreme Command of the German Armed Forces, Chief of Staff of the Ground Forces Command Halder noted in his diary Hitler’s unshakable decision to "level Moscow and Leningrad with the ground" in order to completely get rid of the population of these large cities. The Germans were not going to solve the problem of feeding the population of the Soviet cities.

16 July 1941 of the year at a meeting of the top leaders of the German Empire, this idea was confirmed. Finland claimed the Leningrad Region. Hitler proposed to level the northern capital of the USSR with the land and give the empty territory to the Finns.

On September 21, 1941, the defense department of the Supreme High Command of the German Armed Forces presented an analytical note in which it considered various options for the future of Leningrad. The authors of the report rejected the option of occupying the city, as they would have to supply the population. A scenario of the hermetic blockade of the city, its destruction with the help of aviation and artillery. Hunger and terror were supposed to solve the "problem of the population." Remains of the civilian population suggested "letting go." It is clear that no one was going to feed them.

On the part of Finland, Leningrad also did not have to wait for anything good. The Finnish General Staff reported to the Foreign Ministry of Finland at the beginning of September 1941 that the occupation of the city on the Neva by Finnish troops was considered unrealistic, since there are no food supplies to provide civilians. On September 11, Finnish President Ryti declared to Berlin that “Leningrad must be liquidated as a major city,” and the Neva will become the border between the two states.

Thus, the "enlightened Europeans" - the Germans and Finns - proposed to level Leningrad with the land, and its population should have died of starvation. Nobody was going to feed the “Russian barbarians”.

Day of the complete liberation of Leningrad from the blockade. The myth of the need to surrender the city without a fight

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  1. Ptah
    Ptah 27 January 2014 08: 26
    +39
    "One hundred twenty-five blockade grams
    With fire and blood in half ... "
    / O. Bergolz /

    Eternal Memory to the inhabitants, defenders and liberators of Leningrad ......
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 27 January 2014 10: 56
      +16
      Quote: Ptah
      "One hundred twenty-five blockade grams
      With fire and blood in half ... "
      / O. Bergolz /

      Very strong poetry! A "LENINGRAD" symphony by D.D. Shostakovich?
      Honestly, I’ve been in quite a few years, I’ve seen a lot and it seems I’ve already experienced and experienced a lot, but when this music starts to sound, I have Adam's apple to my throat!

      We will remember all this while we are alive and our country!
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 27 January 2014 13: 05
      +11
      LENINGRADS !!! We heartily congratulate you on this unforgettable date! 900 days of unprecedented stamina and courage ... that’s what you need to educate young people about, that’s what you need to be proud of ... soldier
      1. mihailow56
        mihailow56 27 January 2014 23: 44
        +5
        Glory! Glory! Glory!
        I had a teacher, Tatyana Nikolaevna. I was born on June 26, 1941 in Leningrad. Today is in Lom-Bulgaria. A month ago, we met unexpectedly. There are no words how to tell about this meeting! She told how the Russian state cares about veterans Leningrad! Nobody was forgotten! Her, too!
        A deep bow!
        Great country!
    3. kazssr
      kazssr 28 January 2014 00: 18
      +7
      Jambul Jabaev
      Leningrad, my children!
      ***
      Leningrad, my children!
      The people of Leningrad, my pride!
      To me in the stream of a steppe stream
      The reflection of the Neva jet is visible.
      If along the snow ridges
      With a senile gaze, I glide

      I see the vaults of your bridges,
      The light of the Baltic blue,
      Lanterns of evening swarms,
      The gilded roofs of the point ...
      Leningrad, my children!
      The people of Leningrad, my pride!
      Not then I lived,
      That the robber smell stink;

      It was not you, brothers, who served,
      To climb a creeping reptile
      The city is fabulous, in the city-garden;
      Not then to Leningrad
      Look Dzhambula charmed!
      And then I lived in the world,
      To the rabble Fascist thugs,
      Not having had time to recoil back,

      His wolf bones folded
      Your sacred fences.
      That's why the north run
      Kazakhstan rail tracks,
      That's why the Neva is protected
      Your embankments edge,
      Leningrad people, my children,
      The people of Leningrad, my pride,

      Jambul remembers your grandfathers,
      Your great-grandfathers remembers:
      They were exiled to his village,
      And he heard a ringing in the shackle.
      Having survived the four kings,
      I have experienced their ferocity;
      I wanted to fall fast
      Their Petersburg fortress;
      I'm under the roar of my string
      Vospel, already turning gray,

      The terrible course of the Baltic wave,
      Where national anger was boiling.
      It's in your slender houses
      A glimpse of Lenin's word-rays
      Played for the first time in the dark!
      It's yours, and more nobody's,
      The first onslaught of his speeches
      And his hands first swing!
      Your best machine tools gifts
      Kirov brought us for a reason:
      We are dear to you since ancient times,
      Closer brother, closer sister

      Leningrad - Alma-Ata.
      It is no coincidence that the Baltic Fleet,
      Glorious courage of two centuries,
      Seafarers' delegations
      Sends to Kazakhstan annually,
      And no wonder their sons
      From a young age to training we
      Helmet to the Neva, to the basis of the basics,

      Where, when men are married, minds are ripening.
      What does Jambul hear now?
      To you a steel door breaks,
      Like an eternity hungry -
      Distressed by losses

      Many-headed greedy ...
      He will die at your outposts!
      Without teeth and without scales
      There will be a snake in the croaks!
      The nightingales will sing again,
      Our family will be free!
      Leningrad, my children!
      The people of Leningrad, my pride!

      There are big battles,
      But there will not be enemies of life!
      I can’t sleep today ...
      Let the help be, friends,
      My songs to you at dawn
      Leningrad people, my children,
      The people of Leningrad, my pride!

      September 1941
      Translation from Kazakh M. Tarlovsky

      ETERNAL MEMORY OF ALL LENINGRADS
      1. PValery53
        PValery53 28 January 2014 22: 21
        0
        Strongly, sincerely said the wise Kazakh poet. I bow to the Leningrad blockade ...

        ... I'm talking to you under the whistle of shells,
        sullen glow is illuminated.
        I'm talking to you from Leningrad,
        my country, a sad country ...
        Kronstadt angry, indomitable wind
        in my face thrown beats.
        The children were asleep in the bomb shelters,
        the night watchman stood at the gate.
        Over Leningrad - a mortal threat ...
        Sleepless nights, it's hard any day.
        But we forgot what tears are,
        which was called fear and entreaty.
        I say: we, citizens of Leningrad,
        do not shake the roar of the canon,
        and if tomorrow there are barricades -
        we will not leave our barricades.
        And women with soldiers will stand side by side,
        and the children will give us patrons,
        and we should all bloom
        the ancient banners of Petrograd.
        Hands clutching a charred heart,
        such a promise I give
        I, the townspeople, mother of the Red Army man,
        who died under the arrow in battle:
        We will fight with selfless strength,
        we will overcome the rabid beasts,
        we will win, I swear to you, Russia,
        on behalf of Russian mothers.
        Olga Berggolz, August 1941
      2. PValery53
        PValery53 28 January 2014 22: 25
        0
        Strongly, sincerely said the wise Kazakh poet. I bow to the Leningrad blockade ...

        ... I'm talking to you under the whistle of shells,
        sullen glow is illuminated.
        I'm talking to you from Leningrad,
        my country, a sad country ...
        Kronstadt angry, indomitable wind
        in my face thrown beats.
        The children were asleep in the bomb shelters,
        the night watchman stood at the gate.
        Over Leningrad - a mortal threat ...
        Sleepless nights, it's hard any day.
        But we forgot what tears are,
        which was called fear and entreaty.
        I say: we, citizens of Leningrad,
        do not shake the roar of the canon,
        and if tomorrow there are barricades -
        we will not leave our barricades.
        And women with soldiers will stand side by side,
        and the children will give us patrons,
        and we should all bloom
        the ancient banners of Petrograd.
        Hands clutching a charred heart,
        such a promise I give
        I, the townspeople, mother of the Red Army man,
        who died under the arrow in battle:
        We will fight with selfless strength,
        we will overcome the rabid beasts,
        we will win, I swear to you, Russia,
        on behalf of Russian mothers.
        Olga Berggolz, August 1941
  2. Denis
    Denis 27 January 2014 08: 34
    +31
    And another myth was voiced by the unfortunate historian (do they still sell diplomas in crossings?). That they had just built a road on ice, a lot of people began to evacuate in private cars. So even Solzhenitsyn did not lie.
    1. Almost everyone had cars
    2. The road is not a military facility, but a highway to the country house, I wanted and went
    3.Fuel as it is now at every gas station and they almost through 10 km
    4. Cars for the needs of the front are not requisitioned
    Is he stupid or an enemy?
    History is a complicated science, but you need to think
    For the sake of the memory of the fallen, such must be crushed!
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 27 January 2014 11: 33
      +17
      This is really a myth.
      And here are two facts that few people know about Denis’s topic ...
      ROAD on ice .... and Cars ...

      CARS in besieged Leningrad experienced gasoline starvation, and so, the Air Defense Forces lieutenant Boris Sheleshch converted 10 cars to hydrogen fuel in 200 days, WHAT CAN NOT BE DONE AFTER WARS ALREADY 70 YEARS))))
      Video so to speak in the subject ....

      The road of life, often cars sank like non-hazardous areas, it was especially surprising that ice was broken EMPTY (unloaded)) cars ...
      We found out that movement on ice at a speed of 55 km per hour — almost guaranteed to destroy the ice crossing under the vehicle (no matter how thick it is))). Issued recommendations to drivers, to move either at a lower speed or at a greater .... and ALL cars stopped sinking ....
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 27 January 2014 11: 51
        +18
        Quote: Asgard
        The road of life, often cars sank like in non-hazardous areas,


        Mother told (she was 6 years old at that time) how they were transported along Lake Ladoga and the car in front just went under the ice, her grandmother closed her eyes so that the child would not look, while they were running on the ashes of Badayevsky warehouses and looking for burnt caked sugar and sucked like lollipops. In general, those who survived all this prefer not to remember.
        The myth of the possibility of saving the inhabitants of Leningrad
        Such a tweet appeared on the well-known liberoid channel "Rain"


        Then the post was deleted. But what is posted on the network ... you can’t cut it with an ax. I have already noted a comment on this. I will add only some touches.
        1. Ded_smerch
          Ded_smerch 27 January 2014 12: 04
          +6
          there is a positive point that removed it already says a lot, just about 10-20 years ago that would be the main topic on such a channel and certainly would prove that it was necessary to pass.
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 27 January 2014 12: 08
          +26
          I have always been interested in the question: if these people were not born on Mars, but in Russia (USSR) they speak Russian, their ancestors died at the front and they were burned in the furnaces of Auschwitz and Buchenwald. Do they not understand that if it came to pass that they are writing here about their meagerness or for Judas, they would not have any silver in the world at all? And if somehow they had survived, now instead of comfortable armchairs and a cashbox, they would go to dusty Judah’s work in striped pajamas with a yellow six-pointed star on the chest.
          Lying and hypocrisy in one bottle. Allegedly surrendering Leningrad, thereby saving the inhabitants (only how?) Nothing terrible would have happened. Of course, 30% of the Union’s military industry (even in the blockade of shells for Katyushchir schlieres from factories near Stalingrad) was in Leningrad, the Baltic Fleet was destroyed (namely, its guns, according to von Leeb’s recollection, caused very great damage to the Nazis) and the liberation of a huge group of fascist troops for attacking Moscow and its inevitable surrender because there were no reserves from Siberia in the fall of 1941. And the surrender of Moscow, then the entry into the war of Japan and Turkey, no Lend-Lease and, accordingly, a second front, That's what the surrender of Leningrad!
          And then they themselves will be offended to hysterical snot when they are again called lampshades or a piece of laundry soap. It is clear that the order, it is clear that the agents of influence. For money or pathological Russophobia and hatred of "this" incomprehensible country, But with elementary logic, not to mention knowledge of history and the military-strategic situation, clearly no one is friends. Or people grab even such rotten bone?
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 27 January 2014 12: 40
            +4
            Stanislav hi Do you know that there really was a plan of Comrade Voroshilov that Stalin called cannibalistic? If in short, there is no food in the city but a lot of weapons Most residents will die of starvation If you distribute weapons to everyone who can hold it in their hands and let the Germans into the city through Obvodnoy of the channel, then they will die for a reason, and inflicting some damage to the enemy. What is street fighting did Stalingrad show ... Personally, I can’t comment on this request I learned from the grandfather of the veteran blockade of the NKVD almost before his death
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 27 January 2014 13: 03
              +11
              Quote: Ruslan67
              plan of comrade Voroshilov


              Voroshilov was still a commander. Now liberoids are rinsing the name of the "bloody butcher" Zhukov, but not a word about Voroshilov. Although he was the People's Commissar of Defense in the Finnish War after The Red Army suffered greater losses in the war with Finland than the losses of the Wehrmacht during the occupation of half of EuropeOn May 8, 1940, Stalin dismissed Voroshilov from the post of people's commissar of defense. He simply kicked him out, because the "red marshal" almost ruined the work of the defense department. I don't know why it was he who was sent to the Leningradsky section, probably in June-July the main events took place in the Western and South-Western (Kiev) sections, There was as a well-known complete ... in general ... And then he started naughty. Such a fact is known when Voroshilov on July 21 with his power stopped the echelons going to Leningrad and ordered to unload the main forces of the 1st Panzer Division. Together with two motorized rifle regiments of the NKVD, they were supposed to counterattack and defeat the Finns. The decision was monstrous in its stupidity - on the scales of war, Leningrad and Petrozavodsk had completely different weights, and besides, tanks were useless in the Karelian lake forests. Personally leading the unsuccessful attack of the Marines at Koporye, Voroshilov was slightly injured. Upon learning of the incident, Stalin honored his comrade with several strong epithets.
              On September 11, Stalin removed Voroshilov and replaced Zhukov, the commander of the Leningrad Front, who was forced to rake up everything that the Red Commissar and his comrades had done at the cost of incredible efforts.
              Voroshilov even suggested election of commanders in labor battalions.
              This is how Stalin reacted to this.
              Stalin: No need to pretend to be naive. Read the tape and understand what you are accused of. Immediately cancel the elective beginning in the battalions, because it can destroy the whole army. The elected commander is powerless, because in case of pressure on the voters he will be re-elected in an instant. We need, as you know, sovereign commanders. It is worth introducing electivity in the labor battalions - it will immediately spread to the whole army, like an infection. Zhdanov and Voroshilov, take the trouble to enter the Leningrad Military Defense Council. Leningrad is not Cherepovets and not Vologda. This is the second capital of our country. The Military Council of Defense of Leningrad is not a subsidiary body, but the governing body of the defense of Leningrad. Imagine a specific defense plan of Leningrad.

              From negotiations on a direct wire with K.E. Voroshilov and A.A. Zhdanov August 22, 1941
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 13
                +5
                My grandfather then received the first shell shock. He was sent to strengthen intelligence and did not reach. It was safe that he was on a motorcycle - he was thrown into the ditch by an explosion
            2. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 27 January 2014 13: 08
              +6
              Ruslan67 /// hair moves on the head of such a "plan" ...
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 27 January 2014 13: 51
                +10
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Ruslan67 /// hair moves on the head of such a "plan" ..


                Even from the transcript of the conversation with Stalin it can be seen that Zhdanov and Voroshilov sought to evade responsibility for the defense of Leningrad, and defeatism and panic prevailed among them. Even before Stalin they were bustling when he directly asked them why they did not include themselves in the Military Council of Leningrad.
                In general, Leningraders said that the main work on the organization of everything was actually carried out by the authorized representative of the State Defense Committee, Alexei Kosygin. . He established traffic on the Road of Life, eliminated traffic congestion, and settled the differences between civilian and military authorities. The delivery of coal, oil, the mobilization of the Communists to protect warehouses with food, the evacuation of specialists, the evacuation of children, the removal of factory equipment — he was all involved in this.
                In besieged Leningrad, about Kosygin, unlike Zhdanov, they spoke very well. They told an almost convoluted, but quite true story about how he picked up a dying boy on the street - from the one lying among the stiffened corpses, his finger moved a little. Kosygin left him, fed him, sent him to the mainland - and forgot about it forever. He remembered the figures of food supplies, the number of tons of fuel delivered to the power plant in his old age to the last decimal point, and threw out the people he helped, out of his head. From his point of view, there was nothing special about this.

                Yes, it’s a pity that Kosygin’s reform failed, then we would not have had any restructuring.
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 27 January 2014 12: 41
            +14
            Quote: Ascetic
            Do they not understand that if it came to pass that they are writing here about their meagerness or for Judas, they would not have any silver in the world at all? And if somehow they had survived, now instead of comfortable armchairs and a cashbox, they would go to dusty Judah’s work in striped pajamas with a yellow six-pointed star on the chest.

            they all understand ... they are just enemies ...
          3. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 27 January 2014 19: 32
            +2
            Ascetic, what about the rain only Jews work? Or maybe most of them are there? In general, those Jews who lived during the war did their duty to their homeland, as my father’s uncle who died at Ladoga and how:

            At the beginning of 1992, a small group of Jewish invalids of the war gathered in the basement of the house on Ryleyev Street. They were joined by former prisoners of the ghetto, who miraculously escaped fascist murders, fighters of partisan detachments, and defenders of the besieged Leningrad. Thus was born the St. Petersburg public organization of Jews with disabilities, war veterans. It was led by Lev Pevzner. .Creating our community, we did not oppose ourselves to citywide veteran organizations. People of one generation, one destiny, we have united to perpetuate the memory of the dead, to tell the truth about the Jewish contribution to the Victory. Our front-line brotherhood has become an integral part of the Jewish community, the national and cultural autonomy of the Jewish diaspora of Leningrad - St. Petersburg.
            The past years have convincingly proved the vitality of our union. At the beginning of the journey there were 150-200 people of us. Today the organization numbers 2500 Jewish veterans. We are proud that the members of our front-line brotherhood are: Hero of the Soviet Union, Professor of the Naval Academy Yefim Dyskin, a former artilleryman who knocked out seven enemy tanks; Mark Isaakovich Rovinsky, commander of a rifle platoon and company; Zinovy ​​Merkin, military intelligence officer; Semyon Rat, submariner-diver; Vladimir Rabinovich, private, tanker; Semyon Lesman, commander of a rifle company at Stalingrad, then - battalion commander; Lyubov Kochergin, who was hiding from the Germans, with difficulty getting to the partisans. Our comrades were the already deceased Hero of the Soviet Union pilot Abrek Barsht, holder of three Orders of Glory Leonid Blat. In our ranks are partisan fighters Grigory Erenburg, Elena Drapkina, Tatyana Nemizanskaya, a prisoner of the Vilnius ghetto and two death camps Masha Rolnikaite, whose book I Must Tell has been translated into eighteen languages ​​of the world's peoples. The names of the members of our organization - the poets Nona Slepakova and Semyon Botvinnik, sculptor Lev Razumovsky, People's Artist of Russia Ben-Bentsianov, journalist Yakov Sukhotin - are known throughout Russia. Others are no longer with us, but they live in our memory
            .
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 27 January 2014 21: 38
              +7
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Ascetic, what about the rain only Jews work?


              Yes, even operators and lighting technicians ... This channel was funded by Mr. Prokhorov. I’m not joking or distorting. This is really so.

              Ten Russians, as well as the TV channel, have won the prestigious prize of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia / FEOR / "Fiddler on the Roof" this year. consistent position in strengthening the ideas of tolerance in society in the nomination "Journalism" the TV channel "Rain" was awarded.

              The Fiddler on the Roof Prize has been awarded by the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia since 2002. It is awarded in various nominations, each of which is somehow connected with the development of religious community life of Jews or educational activities.
              TV Channel "Rain" awarded by the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia for strengthening the ideas of tolerance in society

              So tell me. What can be tolerance with this approach? But this Rain quite often gets into scandalous situations, let's say so far from the ideas of tolerance.

              I'm even sure that such a vile poll was set up with a provocative purpose. They hope for a response in the style of "Was there a Holocaust?" the memory of the victims of which is also celebrated, To push their foreheads to cause a wave of xenophobia and discord is the style of this Rain.

              Channel owners Natalya Sidneyeva and bankrupt banker Alexander Vinokurov
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 27 January 2014 22: 13
                +1
                Quote: Ascetic

                So tell me. What can be tolerance with this approach? But this Rain quite often gets into scandalous situations, let's say so far from the ideas of tolerance.
                honestly, how have I been an Israeli Jew who has not lived in Russia for a quarter of a century, can I understand what FEOR is thinking about? For me, in general, the fewer Jews in Russia, the better for both Russia and Jews.
                I'm even sure that such a vile poll was set up with a provocative purpose. They hope for a response in the style of "Was there a Holocaust?" the memory of the victims of which is also celebrated, To push their foreheads to cause a wave of xenophobia and discord is the style of this Rain.
                and hell knows, in Israel, journalists sometimes arrange such provocations that I want to greet these Messrs. with a jab.
                Channel owners Natalya Sidneyeva and bankrupt banker Alexander Vinokurov
                are they also Jews?
                1. old rocket man
                  old rocket man 27 January 2014 22: 40
                  +3
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  are they also Jews?


                  I don’t know, but it’s possible. The ears and deeds are very similar. laughing
                2. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 27 January 2014 23: 03
                  +9
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  are they also Jews?


                  The question is posed incorrectly. Correctly, maybe by some magical way they are not Jews after all? "The violinist on the roof is not awarded to non-Jews.

                  You again reduce to a Jew not a Jew and the number of these per sq. Km. The thing is different
                  The Jew Eisenstein shot an amazingly Russian film "Alexander Nevsky", which glorifies our past and fosters healthy (!) Patriotism. Judging by this movie, Eisenstein was Russian in world outlook, as was Russian both Azerbaijani Magomayev and Georgian Bagration (such examples can be listed from different eras for a long time).
                  Rain workers - Jews by nationality, should take an example from Eisenstein And not solve their ideological problems by questioning the heroism of the defenders of Leningrad (among which, by the way, were also Jews), it looks absolutely disgusting, which naturally provokes a response from people.
                  1. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 27 January 2014 23: 30
                    0
                    Quote: Ascetic
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    are they also Jews?

                    You again reduce to a Jew not a Jew and the number of these per sq. Km. The thing is different

                    I? belay If you are not too lazy to re-read your posts, you will see who is fixated on the Jews. I am more than sure that among the opponents of Rain there are enough Jews. Not for nothing that where two Jews there are three opinions. And there must be many supporters of Putin among Jews in general.
              2. Ascetic
                Ascetic 27 January 2014 22: 15
                +5
                And in this gadyushnik there are constant squabbles and scandals, often about Nothing and a lot of noise and PR.

                Well-known opposition journalists Yevgenia Albats and Pavel Lobkov quarreled over the Jewish question. The editor-in-chief of The New Times and Ekho Moskvy presenter, Evgenia Albats, promised to come to the Dozhd TV channel, where Lobkov works, and arrange a public scuffle.

                Albats cleans the ranks of the Jews
                Lobkov literally said the following
                "The love of Jews of today's Germans is clear to what the reaction is. And the love of children of today's Russians?"

                Evgenia Albats: You are not a Jew, you are a vile, frightened creature, who is afraid of herself, her roots, her passions. There are no worse anti-Semites than kneeling Jews.

                All this caused a huge scandal. As you can see rain provocateurs are still those
                There was also a story with the departure of Pozner who led a program there with the same liar and falsifier Parfyonov. Posner insidiously threw Rain flattered by gesheft and popularity on the First.
                And these are our tolerant representatives of the liberal intelligentsia in Russia.
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 27 January 2014 23: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  Moreover, in this gadyushnik there are constant squabbles and scandals, often about nothing but a lot of noise and PR:
                  And these are our tolerant representatives of the liberal intelligentsia in Russia.

                  Well, t / e you like everyone else. Guys, bear it. When our Israeli journalists on the blue eye after the double terrorist attacks in Jerusalem explained to me that the murderers of my compatriots were just the angels who were tortured by the Israeli military, what else can I talk about? I have long been taking journalism only confirmed facts.
                  For example, yesterday there were explosions near Latakia in Syria. Lebanese the newspaper said that it was Israeli aircraft that bombed the S-300 missiles. Why Israeli and not Turkish? Why aviation and not the navy? Why is a warehouse with missiles for the S-300, and not a warehouse with artillery powder against which the jihadists sabotaged? There are so many questions. But the Syrians are silent, the Israelis are silent, and the Lebanese press, based on information from sources of the opposition, categorically declares "Gevalt, pogrom, Jews."
                  1. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 27 January 2014 23: 37
                    +6
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    Lebanese newspaper said it was Israeli aviation that bombed missiles to S-300

                    Where did the missiles for the S-300 come from? all the more so, there are several types of them and ask exactly which ones .. the ram’s look at the new gate will be because they are sure that the missiles to the S-300 are all of the same type.
                    We don’t have any enmity towards Jews, only to freaks of Jewish nationality who, under the guise of their Jewry, earn money on lies. speculation and incitement to hatred if you call a spade a spade.

                    On the feast of the light of Hanukkah December 01, 2013 in State Kremlin Palace The award ceremony of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia “Violinist on the Roof” took place. Is there a children's ensemble in Israel performing in the country's main arena? In Russia there is


                    Is there a special museum of the Jewish people in Israel? And in Moscow opened the world's largest museum of Jewish history.
                    В



                    Registered in Moscow over a hundred various Jewish official organizations. From dried up to kosher restaurants. Here database
                    And in Israel, they believe that all the Jews have long left, however, this is not so. I can argue that in Moscow alone there are more of them than in Tel Aviv, and they live here no worse and even better than in their historical Motherland. It would be completely good if they were all also patriots of Russia, although I think that most of them are most of them simply imperceptible against the background of the paid Pharisees shamanizing in the media and in the media.
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 27 January 2014 23: 59
                      +3
                      Such a number of Jewish freaks, as in Israel you will not see anywhere. As for the lack of state / anti-Semitism in the Russian Federation, I have no doubt. As for the quantity, it is not difficult to compare the data of the last and penultimate censuses. Trending face. I won’t be surprised if, in 10 years after the last old people die, there will be fifty to seventy thousand Jews in the Russian Federation.
                      But to be honest, admit that for Solovyov or Albats, their Jewishness is more exotic than attitude. And their political contradictions grew out of different ideologies, and not from what kind of mother they were born from.
          4. builder74
            builder74 27 January 2014 20: 10
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            I have always been interested in the question: if these people were not born on Mars, but in Russia (USSR) they speak Russian, their ancestors died at the front and they were burned in the furnaces of Auschwitz and Buchenwald. Do they not understand that if it came to pass that they are writing here about their meagerness or for Judas, they would not have any silver in the world at all? And if somehow they had survived, now instead of comfortable armchairs and a cashbox, they would go to dusty Judah’s work in striped pajamas with a yellow six-pointed star on the chest.

            I don’t understand where such crawled out from! But about the 6 final stars, after all, there are Russians who argue like that!
        3. sds555
          sds555 27 January 2014 13: 06
          +6
          Ascetic The authors of this post intentionally forgot about the directives of their Fuhrer, fucking liberals!
          Hitler's directive No. 1601 of September 22, 1941, “The Future of the City of Petersburg” (German: Weisung Nr. Ia 1601/41 vom 22. September 1941, “Die Zukunft der Stadt Petersburg”) stated with certainty:

          “2. The Führer decided to wipe the city of Leningrad from the face of the earth. After the defeat of Soviet Russia, the continued existence of this largest settlement is of no interest ...
          4. It is supposed to surround the city with a tight ring and by shelling with artillery of all calibers and continuous bombing from the air to level it with the ground. If, as a result of the situation created in the city, requests for surrender are made, they will be rejected, since the problems associated with the stay of the population in the city and its food supply cannot and should not be solved by us. In this war, waged for the right to exist, we are not interested in preserving at least part of the population [38]. "
          According to Jodl during the Nuremberg trials,

          “During the siege of Leningrad, Field Marshal von Leeb, commander of the Army Group North, told OKW that the flows of civilian refugees from Leningrad were seeking refuge in the German trenches and that he had no opportunity to feed and take care of them. The Führer immediately gave the order (October 7, 1941 No. S.123) not to accept refugees and push them back into enemy territory [39]. "
          It should be noted that in the same order No. S.123 there was the following clarification:

          “... not a single German soldier should enter these cities [Moscow and Leningrad]. Whoever leaves the city against our lines must be driven back by fire.
          Small unguarded passages that make it possible for the population to go out one by one to evacuate to the internal regions of Russia should be welcomed. The population must be forced to flee the city with artillery shelling and aerial bombardment. The larger the urban population fleeing deep into Russia, the more chaos the enemy will have and the easier it will be for us to manage and use the occupied regions. All senior officers must be aware of this desire of the Fuhrer.
          1. builder74
            builder74 27 January 2014 20: 25
            +2
            Quote: sds555
            The authors of this post intentionally forgot about the directives of their Fuhrer, fucking liberals!

            Yes, they did not know about these directives! Illiterate, complacent pests!
            1. sds555
              sds555 27 January 2014 23: 26
              +1
              I don’t believe that they didn’t know, I went through these directives at school!
        4. builder74
          builder74 27 January 2014 20: 15
          0
          Actually, censorship is not such a bad thing. I would even say necessary!
          People who can, on TV, and even on the day the blockade is lifted, should not work in the media, should be forcibly sent to courses on the study of the correct history, and fined!
        5. builder74
          builder74 27 January 2014 20: 20
          +1
          54% of those who voted for the surrender of the city ?! We are degenerating. Here they are hidden enemies. Who will say that the purges of Stalin before the inevitable war did not make sense?
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 27 January 2014 20: 26
            +2
            Quote: builder74
            54% of those who voted for the surrender of the city ?! We are degenerating. Here they are hidden enemies. Who will say that the purges of Stalin before the inevitable war did not make sense?

            Do not pay attention to the rating of "Dozhd", there the audience is appropriate, as well as the channel and is small ... But slam it, it's time to ...
            1. Nexus 6
              Nexus 6 27 January 2014 21: 24
              +3
              I came across the completion of the transfer about the blockade on Rain ... .....deleted by moderator Apollo ofigel shorter, from 54% of those who voted for the surrender of the city. The last seconds of the broadcast, the words of one of the participants: "Well, actually, anti-aircraft guns were placed near residential buildings, which did not really like the population." - these are his comments on the losses from the bombing. I think the absurdity of vyser needs no comment. Here they (Rain) with their questioning, clearly crossed the border. Can comrades with a history education watch the broadcast of Dozhd for that day and bring them to justice, so to speak professionally? Surely they didn't say that.
              Just died out fireworks.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 January 2014 21: 35
                +4
                Quote: Nexus 6
                Rain ... oh ... ofigel

                It's time to cover up this trash! A refuge of freaks!
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 27 January 2014 21: 54
                  +2
                  ......................................................
                2. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 28 January 2014 20: 09
                  +1
                  The president of AKTR proposed to disconnect the Dozhd TV channel from broadcasting. Happy news! On the day of the 70th anniversary of the lifting of the Nazi blockade, the Victory Banner was raised over the office of the Goebbels shopping mall "Dozhd", as once over the Reichstag!
      2. Ded_smerch
        Ded_smerch 27 January 2014 12: 02
        +3
        Thanks for the useful info
      3. mak210
        mak210 27 January 2014 14: 47
        +7
        There, technical thought was seething. In addition to hydrogen fuel, there was also a gas generator (by the way, used in Germany and France during the war, the Fischer-Tropsch synthesis gas)

        By the beginning of the war, gas-generating vehicles ZIS-13, ZIS-21, GAZ-42, tractors ChTZ and KhTZ worked in various sectors of the economy. During the war, the ZIS-21 and GAZ-42 were operated in the rear, on the fronts: half of the vehicles of the besieged Leningrad, the Leningrad Front and the Red Banner Baltic Fleet were equipped with gas generating units. Their engines worked on gas, generated directly on board the car from firewood, coal briquettes, peat, called "GasGeny". By the end of the war, 200 thousand gas generating vehicles, tractors, mobile power plants, boats, motor vehicles and other installations were already in operation.


        The relatively large mass of the gas generator (approximately 350 kg) reduces the payload G. and. G. a. on the basis of the ZIL-164 car (carrying capacity 3500 kg, engine power 47 kW), it consumes 100-100 kg of birch chocks with a humidity of 140% per 25 km of run.


        Glory to the Soviet heroes who managed to survive, despite the unprecedented death of civilians!
        1. Denis
          Denis 27 January 2014 15: 43
          +7
          Quote: mak210
          There, technical thought was seething.
          Otherwise it would not survive
          There was such
          The PPS submachine gun was developed by the Soviet weapons designer, Alexei Ivanovich Sudaev in the 1942 year, in the besieged German troops of Leningrad, and was produced at the Sestroretsk arms factory to supply troops of the Leningrad front. During the design of these weapons in service with the Red Army was the famous PPSh-41, which proved to be effective in battle and technologically advanced in production. But PPSh had not only advantages, but also disadvantages, such as large dimensions and weight
          PPS is a simple in design and at the same time in the use and maintenance of weapons, technological and cheap to manufacture. PPS is almost completely assembled from stamped parts, and the consumption of materials for one PPS-43 is three times less than for a PPSh-41 unit. The Sudaev submachine gun, while maintaining the main combat qualities of the PPSh, was much lighter, much more maneuverable and significantly more convenient to use. Another advantage of the faculty is its relatively low rate of fire, amounting to 600 rds / min. instead of 1000 rds / min for PPSh-41. The optimal rate of fire allowed not only to reduce the excessive waste of ammunition in battle, but also with the acquisition of skills by a soldier to conduct targeted fire with single shots without the need to switch shooting modes.
          Honor and glory!
      4. mak210
        mak210 27 January 2014 14: 53
        +3
        GAZ-42, the installation itself behind the driver. Drowned mostly chocks about 5 cm in size. My aunt in the village was littered with a whole corner.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 27 January 2014 17: 12
          +3
          In the photo is a gas generating ZIS, not GAZ
      5. predator.3
        predator.3 27 January 2014 16: 08
        +8
        Quote: Asgard
        The road of life, often cars sank like non-hazardous areas, it was especially surprising that ice was broken EMPTY (unloaded)) cars ...

        My grandfather's cousin served as a chauffeur on the "Road of Life", and so he said that during the flight the car door was always kept open in order to have time to jump, from his awards I remember the "red star", the rest he wore in the bar.
    2. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 27 January 2014 11: 52
      +6
      and another prochessor of history told me that the authorities deliberately delivered food to the city so badly that they would kill citizens. In addition, free of thought citizens stubbornly argue that if only Stalin wanted to, he could give the order to bomb the enemies in Leningrad and there would be no problems with the road to the city.
    3. Volkhov
      Volkhov 27 January 2014 15: 48
      -14%
      Quote: Denis
      2. The road is not a military facility, but a highway to the country house, I wanted and went

      That's the problem - people were not allowed out of the city, it was impossible to just walk around Ladoga because of the Soviet guard, and there is 30 km in total, you can walk in a day.
      This is a joint venture on genocide - machine tools and ammunition were carried in both directions, and the population was kept in blockade. Even the partisans conducted a convoy of 200 carts into the city; the blockade was not continuous.
      Now crocodile tears and the same total deception at the modern level.
      1. Drosselmeyer
        Drosselmeyer 27 January 2014 16: 11
        +7
        Quote: Volkhov
        Quote: Denis
        2. The road is not a military facility, but a highway to the country house, I wanted and went

        That's the problem - people were not allowed out of the city, it was impossible to just walk around Ladoga because of the Soviet guard, and there is 30 km in total, you can walk in a day.
        This is a joint venture on genocide - machine tools and ammunition were carried in both directions, and the population was kept in blockade. Even the partisans conducted a convoy of 200 carts into the city; the blockade was not continuous.
        Now crocodile tears and the same total deception at the modern level.

        Yeah, in an unorganized crowd of several hundred thousand people, on foot, in frost, under bombardment and shelling. When the ice road was established in the city, there was already massive hunger and deaths, people already had difficulty moving around. What is a 30 km hike? Read the book "Life and Death in the Blocked Leningrad. Historical and Medical Aspect". There, people died en masse because they had to go to work an extra kilometer or two because they were hungry. public transport did not work.
        From the first days of the blockade, the Soviet command tried to break through it, but in the war, as you know, enemy forces cannot be moved by delusional ideas alone.
      2. Denis
        Denis 27 January 2014 16: 34
        +3
        Quote: Volkhov
        there 30 km of everything, in a day you can go
        Have you read carefully?

        Quote: Denis
        History science is confusing but you need to think
        Hungry and exhausted, as if a sanatorium were waiting on the other side
        Just an appetite walk
        Now it’s just the season, try for the purity of the experiment at least 30, and there would have to be more, even km to ski
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 27 January 2014 18: 11
          -12%
          After the beginning of the blockade, relatives of the blockade with food went to Leningrad en masse and there was an order to drive them away with fire, such as spies can pass.
          And I was able to walk on the frozen Ladoga both on skis and on foot, since I even failed, nothing got out and after that you can walk. It freezes in November, and mortality began in December - January, you can go far during this time.
          There was no point in keeping people in the city without the intent of genocide. Those engaged in defense had front rations, they did not die of hunger, and all the rest had to be evacuated.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 27 January 2014 19: 27
            +6
            Quote: Volkhov
            There was no point in keeping people in the city without the intent of genocide. Those engaged in defense had front rations, they did not die of hunger, and all the rest had to be evacuated.

            738 thousand people were evacuated by water. On the way of life, approx. 638. That’s how many there are. And where is the genocide? In addition, 300 thousand people were delivered to Leningrad. to replenish troops. By the decision of the GKO on April 25, 1942, a pipeline 35 km long (including 26 km under water) was laid along the bottom of Lake Ladoga in record time for the supply of petroleum products, which entered service on June 18, 1942.

            Before the blockade of Leningrad, 147 people were evacuated by means of vehicles to the interior of the country through the city evacuation center. In addition, 500 people were transported on foot. The latter accompanied cattle and property to the rear.
            The planned evacuation of the population began on June 29 and continued until September 6, 1941 inclusive. During this time, evacuated 706 283 rights, including factories 164 320 people were evacuated, district councils - 401 748 people, evacuation centers 117 580 people and the city railway station - 22 635 people
            The total number of evacuated during the first period was 774 people.

            , during the period of the war and the blockade, 1 people were evacuated from Leningrad, including:

            in the first period - 774876 people,
            in the second - 509581 people.,
            in the third - 448694 people.

            Before the war 3 million 200 thousand people lived in Leningrad.

            Urodkov S.A. "Evacuation of the population of Leningrad in 1941-1942."
            1. Volkhov
              Volkhov 27 January 2014 19: 54
              0
              What does the number of officially evacuated, including wounded military, have to do with the ban on independent exit from the city.
              If you count the departing shepherds
              Quote: Ascetic
              foot order 9500 people. Last escorted to the rear cattle

              then how many cattle they drove out of the city in front of the blockade, which means that the posts taking into account the passing ones were already standing, but they weren’t letting everyone out.
          2. uhu189
            uhu189 28 January 2014 15: 25
            0
            Where to evacuate? Volkhovstroy was released only in December from the Germans, what are you talking about? The ammunition didn’t even have time to deliver, the shoulder of the delivery was enormous, more than 100km, and they did not need to be heated or fed. Where to get so much transport, so much gas for cars? The Volkhov Front was constantly trying to break through the blockade, reinforcements and ammunition were constantly needed to be transported there, and the Germans did not sit idly by and did not look at it. As soon as they could, they began to take out children and civilians in the 1942 year. If you managed to go skiing, then I’m afraid a few Leningrad residents in December could at least go to Ladoga
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 28 January 2014 17: 45
              0
              I want to recover, I described myself, wrote Volkhovstroy, but I meant Tikhvin, I apologize
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      4. 7ydmco
        7ydmco 27 January 2014 23: 54
        +4
        Quote: Volkhov
        That's the problem - people were not allowed out of the city, it was impossible to just walk around Ladoga because of the Soviet guard, and there is 30 km in total, you can walk in a day.


        What are you nits
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 28 January 2014 00: 54
          -2
          Yes, I write on contemporary topics - about the drowned fleet, about the Russians killed in Syria, about the damaging factors of cometary bombings (for example, in Chelyabinsk) - in order to limit this ... and it’s not interesting to pseudo patriots - where how many thousands died and why not importantly, the main thing is trolling and cheers.
          1. uhu189
            uhu189 28 January 2014 15: 28
            0
            Yeah, write about the Venirians, about the Nazi bases that took refuge in Antarctica at Kotelny, and other nonsense that you can dig on the internet. You Volkhov is a great publicist ... Write, this is your right, but you don’t need to mock holy things, especially if you don’t understand basic things ...
      5. uhu189
        uhu189 28 January 2014 15: 19
        0
        And how to reach the shore of Ladoga, also on foot? And from the city to Lake Ladoga there is still 40-50km. And then what, in Cobon, would people be able to warm, place and feed? And then to the nearest operating station Voybokalo another 60 with more than one. And there, letter trains stood under the pairs and waited for the half-dead city residents to sit in them? And this march in severe frosts under the bombing of the Germans? How many people would have reached, you can calculate with your own head? Sorry Volkhov, but maybe enough rave already? You do not have much nonsense about the Nazi bases at Kotelny in which you believe and here you get your brains dirty, so you still start to mock the saint? Can you calm down at last?
  3. invisibility
    invisibility 27 January 2014 08: 36
    +26
    There are no words to describe the fortitude of this generation. Proud of you! But in the opinion of liberals, everything had to be surrendered. And Moscow, and Leningrad, and Stalingrad, and the whole country ... They do not need them. I would try all this trash to blather it under the USSR, the year so in 60-70! She would have raked in full from the citizens, and then would have worked for the good of the Motherland. Behind 69 - parallel ..
    1. leks
      leks 27 January 2014 09: 42
      +10
      Invisibility
      Hi all! Not long ago I was shocked by the liberals in general, their presses said and wrote that they had to fight like the French, I thought such a joke in shock, unfortunately not, they believe that France acted wisely, it gave in at the time of scanty losses and no practical damage, these are the things !!!
      Although many French consider the Petain government traitors, as they say
      THEY KILLED THE SPIRIT OF A FRENCH NATION, and I agree with them.
      1. invisibility
        invisibility 27 January 2014 10: 52
        +3
        leks, hi!
        About these, you can say, once not p ... s! And the funny thing (scary), the whole west gives it off as high art ...
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  4. Name
    Name 27 January 2014 08: 42
    +17
    Happy lifting of the siege of Leningrad all the inhabitants of this glorious city! soldier
  5. major071
    major071 27 January 2014 08: 46
    +26
    Everlasting memory!
  6. yan
    yan 27 January 2014 08: 49
    +18
    By the strength of the spirit of this generation, we are alive today. A worthy example for imitation of youth. It’s a pity that they talk about their feat only on memorable days
  7. Committee
    Committee 27 January 2014 08: 50
    +17
    An unprecedented disaster. Creepy. My grandmother, having transferred the blockade to St. Petersburg after the war, did not go anymore. I lived 47 in total ...
  8. jjj
    jjj 27 January 2014 08: 53
    +11
    Relatives of the blockade could not talk about those days. Every time - a lump in the throat and tears
  9. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 27 January 2014 09: 00
    +11
    Yes, indeed, to give the city to the Nazis, "civilized Europeans" all the same, but it is better not to fight them at all, they would live now in the European "family of nations", serve the "superior race", in short, everything is how modern liberoids want.
  10. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 27 January 2014 09: 01
    +18

    I can not indifferently listen to D. Shostakovich’s Leningrad Symphony.
  11. calocha
    calocha 27 January 2014 09: 01
    +16
    Hitler was going to completely erase the city from the map of the earth. Down the earth and the Eternal Memory of the fallen in those terrible years.
  12. avovsm.ru
    avovsm.ru 27 January 2014 09: 03
    +14
    Hand over the city. Who could have thought such nonsense?
    1. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 27 January 2014 11: 59
      +7
      in the 80s and 90s they howled about it from everywhere, and only at 00 the intensity of idiocy subsided.
  13. polly
    polly 27 January 2014 09: 10
    +23
    Olga Berggolts

    ... I'm talking to you under the whistle of shells,
    sullen glow is illuminated.
    I'm talking to you from Leningrad,
    my country, a sad country ...
    Kronstadt angry, indomitable wind
    in my face thrown beats.
    The children were asleep in the bomb shelters,
    the night watchman stood at the gate.
    Over Leningrad - a mortal threat ...
    Sleepless nights, it's hard any day.
    But we forgot what tears are,
    which was called fear and entreaty.
    I say: we, citizens of Leningrad,
    do not shake the roar of the canon,
    and if tomorrow there are barricades -
    we will not leave our barricades.
    And women with soldiers will stand side by side,
    and the children will give us patrons,
    and we should all bloom
    the ancient banners of Petrograd.
    Hands clutching a charred heart,
    such a promise I give
    I, the townspeople, mother of the Red Army man,
    who died under the arrow in battle:
    We will fight with selfless strength,
    we will overcome the rabid beasts,
    we will win, I swear to you, Russia,
    on behalf of Russian mothers.
    August 1941
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto 27 January 2014 09: 26
    +11
    It is painful and scary to recall how children, women and the elderly were at the forefront of the most terrible, most fierce war - the war against hunger and death. Probably, it was the worst tragedy in the history of mankind - at least from the history that I know. Proud that the city survived without losing human dignity. And I believe that not after such tests, neither he nor Russia will save before the onslaught of chewing gum, LGBT and other infections from the West.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 27 January 2014 12: 23
      +13
      Quote: Stiletto
      It is painful and scary to recall how children, women and the elderly were at the forefront of the most terrible, most fierce war - the war against hunger and death.


      I recently came across the history of the "Baby" tank built with children's money. I read the letters of children and even though I am not a sentimental person, tears welling up in my eyes, I would tear to my last breath for such letters. And now I will do everything. and in fact, he did not really think about it, so that our children and grandchildren would never have to write such letters again.
      In 1942, the newspaper Omskaya Pravda published the Letter of Ada Zanegin, which marked the beginning of the country's only movement of preschool children to raise funds for the front. It said:
      “I am Ada Zanegin. I am six years old. I write in print.
      Hitler kicked me out of the city of Sychevka, Smolensk region.
      I want to go home. Little me, but I know that we must defeat Hitler and then we will eat home.
      Mom gave the money to the tank.
      I collected 122 rubles and 25 kopecks for a doll. And now I give them to the tank.
      Dear Uncle Editor!
      Write in your newspaper to all the children so that they too give their money to the tank.
      And let's call him "Baby."
      When our tank smashes Hitler, we will go home.
      Ada.
      My mother is a doctor, and my father is a tanker. ”


      Alik Solodov-6 years old
      “I want to return to Kiev and bring in the money raised for boots - 135 rubles 56 kopecks - for the construction of the Baby Tank.
      “Mom wanted to buy me a new coat and saved up 150 rubles. I wear the old coat. Tamara Loskutova
      “Dear unfamiliar girl Ada! I am only five years old, and I have been living without a mother for a year. I really want to go home, because I am happy to give money for the construction of our tank. Hurry, our tank would defeat the enemy. Tanya Chistyakova
      and the tank was built. And fought against the Nazis. Completely
      The story of "Baby". Tank built with money from Soviet children

  15. bairat
    bairat 27 January 2014 09: 32
    +11
    The blockade is a blockade, the defending forces were deprived of normal supply, and the city was saved only by constant pressure from the external front. The releasing blows of our troops cost us dearly, but they connected the troops intended for the assault on Leningrad. With a passive strategy, the Germans would have gathered a shock fist and the deprived city did not last long.
  16. Valentine77 64
    Valentine77 64 27 January 2014 10: 21
    +12
    Quote: invisible
    There are no words to describe the fortitude of this generation. Proud of you! But in the opinion of liberals, everything had to be surrendered. And Moscow, and Leningrad, and Stalingrad, and the whole country ... They do not need them. I would try all this trash to blather it under the USSR, the year so in 60-70! She would have raked in full from the citizens, and then would have worked for the good of the Motherland. Behind 69 - parallel ..

    I fully support.
    We live on the Volga. And many old people say that even after the war they were starving. The fact that there was a constant state of hunger. Went to fish and fed pasture. But even the children understood that all the forces and resources were devoted to rebuilding the country (and no one helped us). A worthy generation.
    And the "liberals", I remember, in the 90s said that this is how the vanquished live, and we were starving.
    And we believed them. Only when we "matured" did we begin to understand that the ideological machine of the West was working, that not a single manufacturer of equipment (Krupp, Siemens, Volkswagen, Mercedes, Opel, etc.) suffered in the war, but went to the world level.
    Until the 2000s, we were paying for Lend-Lease. They also fed the dormitories (Hungarians, Poles, "brothers").
    Eternal Memory of those who died and survived in that Great War for the existence of our Great People.
  17. samoletil18
    samoletil18 27 January 2014 10: 31
    +8
    Many films have been made about the blockade. Watch Winter Morning. Scary. But pride, along with a lump to the throat - we were born in this Great Country, WE ARE THEIR DESCENDANTS.
  18. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 27 January 2014 10: 35
    +16
    "Let's drink to those who commanded companies,
    Who was dying in the snow,
    Who made the way through swamps to Leningrad,
    breaking the enemy's throat "!
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 27 January 2014 12: 03
      +11
      Let's drink to those who spend weeks long
      Frozen in damp dugouts
      He fought on Ladoga, fought on Volkhov
      Not a step back!
      drinks soldier
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 27 January 2014 14: 33
        +10
        Let’s drink for those who died near Sinyavino,
        Everyone who didn’t give up alive
        Let's drink for the Motherland, drink for Stalin!
        Let's drink and pour it again!
        drinks
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 27 January 2014 15: 36
          +3
          I heard a little different repeat

          In mentioning forever glorified
          Under the machine-gun blizzard
          Our bayonets at the heights of Sinyavino
          Our shelves under Mgoy.

          We get up and go nuts full of circles
          The brotherhood of friends fighting
          We drink for the courage of fallen heroes we
          Let's drink to the meeting of the living.


          There are just 2 songs - "Our toast" and "Volkhovskaya drinking". The motive is the same and the words are also similar (sometimes identical), because of this confusion happens yes
          1. Drosselmeyer
            Drosselmeyer 27 January 2014 16: 28
            +2
            Here is a good performance:
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  19. Stas57
    Stas57 27 January 2014 11: 02
    +9
    The Germans did not intend to feed the city’s population, this is directly indicated in the operational documents of the Wehrmacht (GA "Sever" and its subordinate formations and associations). Unlike other cities, Leningrad is not surrounded by agricultural areas and the disaster would have been unprecedented.
    Isaev Alexey Valerevich / 24.01 14: 06
    I will quote the Journal of Combat Operations of the Army Group “North” for the 20 of September 1941 of the year: “With regard to the city of Leningrad, the principle remains the same: we do not occupy the city and do not feed its population.” Leningrad was located in an area with underdeveloped agriculture, there were not wheat fields around, but peat mining. At the same time, the GA Sever was based on one railway and the command of the army group believed that it was not enough to supply the GA Sever itself, not to mention the population, even the already occupied suburbs of Leningrad. There were plans to fence off the city with barbed wire and minefields. The Germans planned to solve the psychological problems of the shooting of hungry crowds of civilians with "fire from long distances" (this is a quote). Simply put, firing weapons from closed positions from afar, turning crowds of people into a bloody mess. Therefore, the surrender and, in general, the loss of the city as a result of the assault would lead to a monstrous in its scale disaster with the death of almost everyone who was in Leningrad at the time of the closure of the blockade
    http://www.aif.ru/onlineconf/6219
  20. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 27 January 2014 11: 06
    +5
    The myth was invented by foreign democrats, such as Novodvorskaya, who did not imagine the war and the anger of the European democrats of that period with their new order.
  21. late
    late 27 January 2014 11: 07
    +9
    Many thousands of Leningraders were evacuated to us in Cherepovets, many of whom were dying of exhaustion ... It is especially bitter to lose already saved people .. They rest in the memorial cemetery of Cherepovets. Among the saved people there were many who stayed to live in the Vologda region, live and work, in Cherepovets there are streets completely designed by Leningrad architects, the appearance of these streets is the same as in Leningrad. And our main avenue is Victory Avenue. I still think, no matter how unattainably great our country would become if it weren’t for these twenty-seven million lives lost in the war ... ETERNAL MEMORY OF THE Fallen!
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 27 January 2014 12: 43
      +10
      Quote: spat
      Many thousands of Leningraders were evacuated to us in Cherepovets, many of whom were dying of exhaustion ... It is especially bitter to lose already saved people.


      Mine was evacuated to Kazakhstan in the city of Stepnyak. Mother recalled that they were saved by camel milk that local women drank to them. Then the whole country helped each other ...
  22. Yarik
    Yarik 27 January 2014 11: 32
    +1
    I don’t know whether to believe or not, but somehow there was information (unfortunately, I don’t remember where) that allegedly Mannerheim had something like nostalgia for Peter, so the Finns did not press hard.
    1. late
      late 27 January 2014 12: 06
      +5
      It was because of the Finns that the FULL blockade of Leningrad turned out, since they completely and quickly blocked the Karelian Isthmus, and this is a considerable territory, about 60-80 km across between the Gulf of Finland and Ladoga. The transfer to the isthmus of German troops because of the opposition would take them time and considerable funds of fascist Germany freed with the help of the Finns.
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 27 January 2014 12: 10
      +6
      Quote: Yarik
      I don’t know whether to believe or not, but somehow there was information (unfortunately, I don’t remember where) that allegedly Mannerheim had something like nostalgia for Peter, so the Finns did not press hard.

      You can try to "whiten a black dog" as much as you like, but the facts are stubborn things. hi
    3. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 27 January 2014 12: 12
      +6
      liberals they tell you even cooler tales. What he would have done with the city of revolution and the population of this city can be easily understood by reading what the "glorious" husband did in Finland with people of leftist views.
    4. Stas57
      Stas57 27 January 2014 13: 01
      +6
      well, they had enough of Finnish, so that they wouldn’t have much to meditate, the dates weren’t especially pert for Peter, but not because Manneirheim loved Peter

      I am not inclined to justify Mannerheim. His role in what happened is very large. We can only talk about the fact that the Finnish army’s ability to break through modern defense (which does not contradict the Finns ’success in defense in the“ Winter War ”) was rather low, so the strike capabilities of the Finnish group did not allow them to achieve great results, especially when they reached boundary KaUR-a, fortifications north of Leningrad on the Karelian Isthmus. Here I would like to refute the widespread legend that the Finns did not cross the border and only "returned their own." This is not so; they safely crossed the border of 1939 between Lake Ladoga and Onega. And only the success of the Red Army near Tikhvin prevented their connection with the Germans and the cutting of the "road of life."
      http://www.aif.ru/onlineconf/6219
    5. Poppy
      Poppy 27 January 2014 13: 39
      +8
      it’s a lie, the Finns stopped only because they ran into KaUR bunkers, and they couldn’t crack them without heavy artillery
      they also tried to close the ring on the outside of Lake Ladoga and made their way towards the Germans in the fall of 41, but the Germans were thrown back from Tikhvin and the Finns were stopped
    6. Denis
      Denis 27 January 2014 15: 54
      +5
      Quote: Yarik
      I don’t know whether to believe or not, but somehow there was information (unfortunately, I don’t remember where) that Mannerheim allegedly had something like nostalgia for Peter, so the Finns didn’t press hard
      Do not believe, then nonsense
      They pressed as best they could, only that they fired little. But not because of romantic-nostalgic snot, they did not have long-range artillery
      The inscription "Citizens! AT ARBOBSTREL, this side of the street is the most DANGEROUS ”in Leningrad on the north and north-east sides of the streets, as the shelling of the city was carried out from the south (Pulkovo heights) and south-west (Strelna) directions. In Kronstadt, inscriptions were placed on the southwestern sides, since shelling was threatened by occupied Peterhof. This kind of danger is associated with the presence of obstacles (high-rise buildings), the peculiarity of the ballistic trajectory of the projectile and the impact of the damaging factors of the explosion (fragments, shock wave).
      That's why the inscription
  23. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 27 January 2014 12: 08
    +8
    On the part of Finland, Leningrad also did not have to wait for anything good. The Finnish General Staff reported to the Foreign Ministry of Finland at the beginning of September 1941 that the occupation of the city on the Neva by Finnish troops was considered unrealistic, since there are no food supplies to provide civilians. On September 11, Finnish President Ryti declared to Berlin that “Leningrad must be liquidated as a major city,” and the Neva will become the border between the two states.

    Thus, the "enlightened Europeans" - the Germans and Finns - proposed to level Leningrad with the land, and its population should have died of starvation. Nobody was going to feed the “Russian barbarians”.


    This is the question of why the Winter War was needed. hi
    True, with the occupation of the city, the dates were clearly going to be divided into the skin of the unkilled bear - they did not have heavy artillery to break through the fortifications. Not for nothing that in Karelia the front already stabilized in 1942 and stood flat until the 44th, which made it possible to transfer troops to more dangerous sectors.
  24. drop
    drop 27 January 2014 12: 13
    +15
    Dear readers of "VO". He lived half his life in this city, was also born in Leningrad, then for 33 years he created and developed industry and science, working in Moscow. Father died on December 27, 1941, creating and supporting the work of "The Road of Life". In "VO" I have published a number of essays about our city. One of them is "Crisis Month in City Defense", read it. The city was saved from surrender to the Nazis by our Marshal of Victory G.K. Zhukov. In three weeks he managed to organize the rescue of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet (on September 21-23, 1941, the Nazis were preparing to sink all ships in a raid of 350 bombers on the fleet), strengthened the number of personnel of the front units, arranged shelling of ships and railway installations against the accumulation of groups of fascists (the error of hits of the main caliber guns at a distance of 25 km did not exceed 30 meters). Mannerheim, in his plans, which Hitler put him, was to capture Arkhangelsk. In an article in "VO" "Order to stop the enemy with a platinum explosion" I was able to show why he failed to achieve this. It is a pity that he was not put on trial as a war criminal. On his hands and President Ryutti's are the blood of 1,5 million of our citizens. I have the honor.
  25. old rocket man
    old rocket man 27 January 2014 12: 57
    +9
    In my family it is a mournful holiday, three medals "for the defense of Leningrad" and 12 graves (where 28 more are buried, it was not possible to find out). There are thousands of such families in St. Petersburg, we will forever keep the memory of our relatives and hundreds of thousands of other heroes who gave their lives for the beloved city and the freedom and independence of our Motherland, we will pass on our memory to our grandchildren, and they to theirs.

    Let's drink to those who commanded companies who froze in the snow drinks drinks drinks drinks
  26. parus2nik
    parus2nik 27 January 2014 13: 06
    +5
    Moreover, gentlemen, liberals ... they still call for repentance ... Well, let's repent, for the capture of Berlin, because they survived the blockade ... because the ridge was broken by a beast near Stalingrad .. Moreover, the Czechs because every second German tank was produced at Czech plants are not going to repent, the French are proud of the Normandy-Niemen regiment, but they do not repent for the French division, not the regiment, the SS division..etc.
  27. dv-v
    dv-v 27 January 2014 13: 13
    +5
    with such and such patriots and enemies is not necessary: ​​"ancient Russian city" - how do you order to understand such an illiterate nonsense ?!

    not only did he founded the city in 1703, Peter the Great called it ST. PETERSBURG (very old Russian, isn't it?), modern historical science does not even relate to the ancients Moscow, founded, for a minute, in the 12th century!
    1. late
      late 27 January 2014 15: 07
      0
      In my opinion, this is what the text says about Gatchina.
      1. dv-v
        dv-v 28 January 2014 02: 37
        -1
        no, not about gatchina)) - that would be even stupider. it's about Novgorod - that's my mistake, I don't read propaganda articles, a waste of time. all the more so, having been born and having received a certificate back in the USSR, at one time I read a lot of better materials of concurrent propaganda in carriages. in history, by the way, I had "excellent". glancing over the name of Novgorod in front of the photo I overlooked.
    2. Denis
      Denis 27 January 2014 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: dv-v
      with such patriots and enemies is not necessary
      With such judges and the prosecutor is useless
      understand such an illiterate nonsense ?!
      On literacy: Before, for example, Istanbul became Istanbul, wasn’t it, was Constantinople not there?
      On Zayachy island and Okhta (St. Petersburg districts, for literacy!), Settlements were found in very pre-Petrine times. The place is very advantageous
      Continuing to expound the concepts of His teaching, Jesus Christ said: "Judge not lest ye be judged" (Math 7: 1)
      Have you heard this?
      1. dv-v
        dv-v 28 January 2014 02: 24
        -1
        another ignoramus - the closer of America.

        show your tricks to your teachers of literature, history and, finally, the confessor, they would be ashamed of your ignorance for a long time.
        1. Denis
          Denis 28 January 2014 04: 41
          0
          Quote: dv-v
          show your tricks to your teachers of literature, history and, finally, the confessor, if they were ashamed of your ignorance for a long time
          But just what?
          At one time I read a lot of co-propaganda in carriages. in history, by the way, I had "excellent
          Could have been expelled from school, and there were no confessors then. So what exactly is unlearned? And it turns out something like this:
          -This is against Ohm's law for the chain section
          -Sam d.u.r.a.k!
          And did you have to get acquainted with such a book?
          1. dv-v
            dv-v 28 January 2014 15: 03
            -1
            obviously:
            - if "an illiterate patriot is the worst enemy" is quite close to the original well-known saying "with such friends and enemies you don't need", then the maxim "such an accuser is the worst judge" for me personally is obviously illiterate for at least two reasons; firstly, because the legal formula accuser vs defense lawyer is axiomatic, and secondly and most importantly, it records the judge as the accuser's opponent, i.e. In the most absurd way, he tries to destroy another legal axiom, where the judge is personified by a statue of Themis with scales in his hands and blindfolded.

            - if not the river bed, which is known to change over time, it is quite possible that sites and Neanderthals would be found at the mouth of the Neva, which, from the point of view of the historian, does not change anything - the year of foundation of this particular city will be disputed only by the "American shutters".

            finally, why condemn something? or, like enteo, started a revision of postulates long sucked to an unreal brilliance in their own interests? Do you even understand what you quoted or as with the prosecuting judge? turn around tady in this field? what did you want to say?
            1. Denis
              Denis 28 January 2014 22: 50
              0
              Quote: dv-v
              "such an accuser is the worst judge" for me personally, obviously illiterate for at least two reasons; firstly, because the legal formula accuser vs defense lawyer is axiomatic, and secondly and most importantly, it records the judge as the accuser's opponent, i.e. in the most absurd way he tries to destroy another legal axiom, where the judge is personified by a statue of themis with scales in his hands and blindfolded
              Balabstvo in the spirit of one lame doctor
              Do not interchange:
              With such judges and the prosecutor is useless
              but not like:
              "such an accuser is the worst judge"
              Those. lawyer vis-a-vis the judge is neutral
              Chatter, chatter and nothing but chatter is a chronic disease of liberals and democrats
  28. Ev58
    Ev58 27 January 2014 13: 31
    +6
    These lines will live forever

    The howl of sirens and the roar of the cannonade,
    Torn bombs and shells, like hail!
    “Messers" hung in the black sky
    To throw death to Leningrad!

    Here, boy, about twelve years old,
    With a little sister in the snow lies.
    He wanted to hide from the bombing,
    And now he’s no longer in a hurry ...

    He lies with a frozen look
    With children's eyes looking into the distance
    As if silently turning to God:
    “Why did my life suddenly end?”

    The cry that the heart breaks
    About the dead children in the war
    The blade pierces
    Soul, as if in a nightmare!

    Here is one fascist sleek,
    With a clean-shaven face
    I noticed a woman with a child,
    Hiding somewhere behind a bush.

    He, locked in a black tank,
    Because life is sweet
    Turning the car in cold blood
    Hit the bush from the trunk!

    The explosion crashed and shuddered
    From the cruelty of an unprecedented land!
    Only nearby, by the smoking funnel
    Mother lay silently, and, child!

    Somewhere among the bursting shells
    It’s not known where, in what battle,
    Russian soldiers died
    Defending your homeland!

    Do not forget, do not cross out a line
    From history, as they want!
    I will not forget
    Feat of the Russian people and soldiers!

    Volleys of thousands of guns, explosions,
    The death of relatives, at home on fire!
    I wish I had it all
    Only in a terrible, terrible dream!

    This is life, the history of the people,
    These lines will live forever!
    They cannot be erased from the heart,
    Also, how can you not forget about them!
  29. Ev58
    Ev58 27 January 2014 13: 35
    +4
    Memory

    Every day, every moment on Earth
    I see heaven and earth in smoke ...
    In this life, wandering in the gloom
    I see a friend's face in reality.

    This memory cannot be taken away!
    I can’t forget those words:
    “Defend our Motherland!
    We will not surrender to the fascists Moscow! ”

    It hurts to lose a friend in battle ...
    Like a knife forgotten in the chest!
    This memory is neither burned nor taken away
    No matter how many years ahead!

    The memory of Russian soldiers in me!
    You cannot remove a knife from memory.
    What a passerby boy ...
    Only outwardly similar to a friend.

    To all the soldiers who died in battle,
    To all who gave their lives for us
    Eternal memory in our hearts
    For the sake of life and peace now!
  30. Ev58
    Ev58 27 January 2014 13: 36
    +5
    Not forget!

    The explosion hit, the battalion commander froze
    And the body spread in the snow ...
    I lived this moment then
    But I probably can’t forget!

    I cannot and do not want to forget
    What happened many years ago
    How to go to war
    Shelves of young soldiers!

    Shelves for children and mothers,
    They don’t see the end ...
    Not everyone is given then
    Press father to chest.

    To see mother or relatives
    Hometown, sister ...
    I lived this moment then
    And I can’t forget, I can’t!

    I don't want to forget everything
    My memory is a heavy cross!
    Not Stalingrad, not Leningrad,
    Not Minsk, not Bucharest!

    Here, in their native land, they
    Gnawed at every shred
    Behind them was the Motherland,
    Sand creaked in my teeth

    Lead whistled and blood poured
    For my homeland!
    In the foliage of gardens, grass, flowers
    I recognize her.

    I can’t forget the Soldier
    Lying in the snow!
    I lived this moment then
    And I can’t sleep peacefully!

    I will worship Homeland
    To everyone who died for us
    So that the planet never
    The light of the sun did not go out!

    Over the sky blue expanse
    Over the blue of the sea
    For the sun's ray, for children's laughter,
    For the fact that I live!
  31. gen-48
    gen-48 27 January 2014 15: 37
    +4
    Dear forum users, beat the reptiles with the whole world. Honor and praise to the courage of Leningraders and the eternal memory of the fallen! But they don’t mention anywhere under this date that 71 years ago the original Russian glorious city of Voronezh was liberated from the fascist-European rabble. Sorry, maybe a little off topic, but I want someone to remember about this date.
  32. Koliamba_TV
    Koliamba_TV 27 January 2014 15: 58
    +5
    Eternal memory to the Leningraders who survived the onslaught of the Nazis, who fought and survived in winter cold and hungry days. It is a pity that not all young people respect the exploits of our grandfathers, great-grandfathers, grandmothers, great-grandmothers and ordinary people who contributed to the common victory. when the youth is completely indifferent) did they fight? The answer will be simple, no, but unfortunately it didn’t happen.
  33. makeev.dmitry
    makeev.dmitry 27 January 2014 16: 01
    +4
    Do not take Russia with weapons. Therefore, a powerful information war is being waged against us. The main blow is directed against the younger generations. With the help of the media, children are deprived of value orientations, and the future of Russia is deprived of historical memory. The means of finishing off is alcohol and drugs. Russian people! Our grandfathers survived. But this does not protect us automatically from new challenges. We face new, no less terrible challenges. Homeland does not need our toasts. And do not console our ancestors with glasses. We got such a country, and we almost missed it. What can I do for my homeland now?
  34. papuasimus
    papuasimus 27 January 2014 16: 58
    +6
    I will never forget how I first came to Piskaryovskoye Cemetery. Thirty years have passed, but still vividly see these mass graves of 41-44 years. Everlasting memory!

    Everyone stood up for Leningrad !!! Everyone, even those who fell into hungry fainting and barely moved from the cold.
    I was then in October 84th. One old lady, a blockade worker, told how they, little girls, under the guidance of their counselor and a disabled loader, were collecting antipersonnel mines at one of the perfume factories. A bottle of cologne or perfume, gunpowder, a detonator, and all this in a cardboard box.
    Thousands of such antipersonnel were scattered along the path of the Fritz (mine detectors could not detect glass and cardboard).
  35. kaktus
    kaktus 27 January 2014 18: 01
    +3
    Leningrad is:
    - a large industrial center,
    - Baltic Fleet base - Kronstadt,
    - direct route to Karelia, Kola Peninsula, Murmansk - the base of the Northern Fleet.
    This is to what has already been said.
    Politics, cynicism and other *** - without even reckoning with people who find themselves in a blockade (hell block am ),
    the city could not be surrendered. But chatting doesn’t work, and these empty chimes have neither mind nor conscience. IMHO
  36. tochila
    tochila 27 January 2014 21: 41
    +2
    Not one step back !!! Here is the slogan of the winners !!
  37. Kus Imak
    Kus Imak 27 January 2014 23: 44
    +4
    I don’t know what kind of Jews you have left in the media. But as an Israeli, I believe that the defense of the city was absolutely necessary, despite all the casualties suffered. The surrender of the city would not reduce the number of civilian casualties. Read on the Internet the letters of Russian people living under occupation near Leningrad, in Gatchina. They were starving as well as the Leningraders, the Germans simply did not feed them, because the Germans themselves did not have enough food. Of course, if comrade Zhdanov would have thought a little about people, then there would have been much fewer victims. If the children, dependents were taken out, it would be much easier for the remaining workers and soldiers. Leningrad showed the moral superiority of Russians over Germans. For several years they were trampling near Leningrad and could not take it, and Koenigsberg - a German city, which, like Leningrad, served as a fortress city in the Baltic, was taken in a matter of weeks.
  38. Bakht
    Bakht 28 January 2014 01: 40
    +2
    The surrender of Leningrad automatically meant a loss of war. Two field armies (16th and 18th) and 4th TGr were liberated in September. For a month they managed to replenish and attack Moscow from the Northern direction. Barbaross’s plan was precisely this option that was supposed. The Baltic Sea became German and the problem of supplying the entire Northern flank of the Eastern Front was removed. Moscow could not stand the onslaught of two more field armies.

    About Voroshilov. Of course, in the Great Patriotic War he did not become famous for his special talents. But I never saw a plan to let the Germans into the city and never heard of anything like it. If anyone knows - a link to the document, please.

    The nonsense of any liberalists about the surrender of the city is not worth listening to. And even not worth discussing. Article for treason and a bullet in the back of the head. It is possible in the forehead (as an option of pluralism). They are now surrendering the country. The city for them to pass - like two fingers on the asphalt. I have not argued with idiots from history for a long time. I am guided by a simple everyday truth: a donkey cannot be proved that he is a donkey, because he is a donkey.
  39. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 28 January 2014 07: 52
    +1
    Quote: Ascetic
    I was always interested in the question: if these people were not born on Mars, but in Russia (USSR) they speak Russian, their ancestors died at the front and they were burned in the furnaces of Auschwitz and Buchenwald

    In the rich Russian language there is such a concept of "geeks". These are people who have lost their moral connection with their ancestors and have become "rat wolves".
  40. Takashi
    Takashi 28 January 2014 13: 19
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    I have a wish for the experts of the World War II, and in particular the Defense of Leningrad.
    Someone tell me - why our troops for 3 years could not break the blockade ring around the city.
    The numerical composition. The construction of the defense by the Germans.
    And it is still not clear that our troops were hacked.
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 28 January 2014 16: 23
      +1
      Year 44 is the year of complete withdrawal (Operation January Thunder). And they broke through it back in 43 (Operation Iskra) hi