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Syria and Ukraine about American mistakes in relations with the Russian

In Geneva peace conference opened in Syria, the first task is - to stop the violence. In Kiev vengeance unfolds provocation, the first goal is - to provoke widespread violence. It would seem - that common?


And the common thing is that both are products of Russian-American relations, as they have been developing over the past 30 years. More precisely, the US-Russian. And this is how Robert Gates, one of the pillars of American politics, rated this product. The former head of the Pentagon believes that all these thirty years, this policy, as he put it, "suffered from bad management."

“The arrogance of Americans, who told Russians how to conduct their affairs, led to deep rejection and bitterness,” says Robert Gates, a councilor, former head of the CIA and Pentagon, who worked with four presidents, in his new book.

The hasty inclusion of the former Soviet satellites - the Baltic countries, Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and then Romania and Bulgaria - in NATO, he considers a mistake.

“Attempting to invite Georgia and Ukraine to NATO was an exaggeration. The roots of the Russian Empire go from Kiev, so it was a huge provocation. Were the Europeans ready, not to mention the Americans, to send their sons and daughters to defend Georgia or Ukraine? Hardly. So the expansion of NATO was not a carefully considered military commitment, but a political act that undermined the goals of the alliance and irresponsibly ignored what the Russians considered their vital national interests, ”writes the recent Pentagon chief.

What should be noted? Gates is definitely the enemy. More precisely, politically correct, "potential adversary." He just thinks that it was necessary to be slower and more thorough. And that America should adequately pursue its interests, and not entertain inappropriate ambitions.

That is why he articulates his full support for Obama as regards restraint, realism and willingness to negotiate. To which McCain, the Republican senator and party member of Gates, who was not adequately adequate, responded: “I could keep quiet until at least the next election.”

“If the trigger is cocked, you need to be ready to shoot. I was against military intervention, describing it as an attempt to put out a fire with a gas canister. Syria is too close for Russia and Iran, our military intervention could have caused their intervention, ”said Robert Gates in an interview.

America is tired. America does not pull in conflicts around the world. Russian America, not a threat. With Russia it is necessary to negotiate rather than to provoke. On the question of the Air Force, they say that America has lost the ability to project power in the whole world, as before, Gates replied:

“An interesting addition is“ as before. ” She has been doing this all the time since 50's, while other nations have become stronger, restored after the war, with the rise of China, and with a decrease in our share of global GDP in the last 50 years, while other countries have become richer. Our unilateral influence in the world between, say, the end of World War II and Vietnam is obviously in the past. ”

It's worth it: According to Gates, America is weaker in the world than after Vietnam. When it is still alive USSR ?! Especially, the agreement with Russia has no alternative. And the current administration is sort of understand. Ukraine only for us, sorry, on the order of closer and more important than Syria. And who keeps a tight leash on the Ukrainian opposition, they know everything. So keep!
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  1. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 27 January 2014 15: 28
    +24
    Sober-minded people still remained in America, to see not everything is so bad.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 27 January 2014 15: 35
      +18
      LaRouche (about 8 times standing for the US presidency) is the most adequate of all their political party

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTQ6f_hIifQ

      I don’t know how to insert a video, LaRouche talks about traitors by reference. About how the school of British intelligence recruited Gorbachev, a navalnik, and so on.

      And he sums up the meaning of the video at the end - when Russia gets rid of traitors at its highest levels of power (it's about the swamp opposition), then there will be less problems in our dialogue with the Americans
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 15: 41
        +18
        I never get tired of repeating, playing blackjack with the Chekists is a disastrous thing. And when the Americans understand this ....
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 27 January 2014 16: 06
          +29
          .Without winning the information war, we have little chance of victory. Without the trust of the people, there is no power for the future. This is human nature. Not a hat for Senka, as they said in Russia. Today, everything repeats in a familiar scenario. It is urgent to create the Patriotic Anti-Defamation League of Russia. Identify Russophobian films, articles, programs, false scientists, directors, journalists, writers and expel them from Russia. Without our traitors, the Anglo-Saxons today, even in Russia already weakened by them, will do little. No faceless leaders swear from the TV screens in the service of the people, but after the work done, the Boss in the West will put these active volunteers into a meat grinder as well. No illusions. Stolen - from the Master, but "Rome does not pay to traitors!".
          1. Kostyar
            Kostyar 28 January 2014 12: 33
            0
            And the computer games that our children play (whose mentality is formed), where the main characters urinate the Russian people, including civilians ...?!
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 27 January 2014 17: 13
          +5
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          I never get tired of repeating, playing blackjack with the Chekists is a disastrous thing. And when the Americans understand this ....

          The blaming entirely on the United States, promoted by journalists with Israeli citizenship, is an attempt to divert the attention of citizens from the fault of the Ukrainian government itself from the current situation. Because the recognition of the guilt of Ukrainian oligarchs causes parallels in the minds of Russians that are harmful to domestic power. Therefore, I advise everyone who is interested in versatile views to read this article. So the picture is more complete. Naturally, this does not cancel the role of the United States in the life of Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
          http://www.ymuhin.ru/node/1011/ukraina-na-puti-k-fashizmu
          "And I have a question - where are the civil servants of Ukraine, who are obliged to provide citizens with a safe life in accordance with the current laws?"
          After all, we see only the lowest of them - the rank and file of the Kiev Ministry of Internal Affairs and their officers, who are steadfastly standing in the fire of organized criminal groups insane from impunity. And where, say, did such a civil servant as the Prosecutor General of Ukraine go? Why is he not fulfilling his duties to ensure the safety of citizens of Ukraine - to identify the perpetrators of crimes and to charge them in court?
          Why doesn’t he do even the most minimal - why doesn’t he address the people of Ukraine and explain to citizens (taxpayers) what exactly is happening and what follows from what is happening?
          For example, like this: "

          Naturally, this does not cancel the role of the United States in the life of Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
          I advise Zadornov’s video about where our officials get instructions from wink
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqKiXHVEhyA
        3. washi
          washi 28 January 2014 12: 12
          0
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          I never get tired of repeating, playing blackjack with the Chekists is a disastrous thing. And when the Americans understand this ....

          blackjack is a "point" in Russian. And we are not gay Europeans. We don't play this. We would have a preference ...
      2. Chertkov Oleg
        Chertkov Oleg 27 January 2014 16: 21
        +12
        I will help a little.

        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 27 January 2014 16: 49
          +7
          The Great Fatherland Party will be our most appropriate response to the enemies! soldier

          Thanks for the help!
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        3. Imigrantt
          Imigrantt 28 January 2014 01: 08
          +1
          More to such Americans !!! A hunchback and Chubais and the like on the rack on the frontal place in public !!!!! hi
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      4. baltika-18
        baltika-18 27 January 2014 19: 35
        +9
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        LaRouche talks about traitors

        LaRouche is a player and a big swindler. He made a lot of efforts to the collapse of the USSR. It is he who owns the thesis "the USSR is an empire of evil." He has always been a spokesman for ideas and a kind of mouthpiece for a certain layer of the world financial elite. -that certain goals, perhaps with some perspective. Before you praise someone from overseas "friends", first gather information about him. The amount of pathos will decrease.
      5. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 28 January 2014 11: 04
        0
        That's right: until we get rid of the traitors among us there will be no sense, but another thing is interesting, everyone knows the traitors by name and do nothing! Do we have that responsibility for treason is canceled or subversive actions against Russia, in favor of far-unfriendly states, is not a crime? Until we uproot the fifth column, there will be more and more problems with America! And letting them turn Ukraine into a bargaining chip of the neocolonial policy of the United States and its allies is a betrayal of not only the Ukrainian, but also the Russian peoples!
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    3. zanoza
      zanoza 27 January 2014 15: 47
      +4
      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      ... sober-minded people ...

      The political vector is still the same, America's enemies are the same, the methods of achieving their goals are only correcting, they are afraid to "choke". We decided not to rush, but as with meals, "eat in small pieces and chew thoroughly."
    4. Civil
      Civil 27 January 2014 16: 04
      +8
      Good map
      1. Sirius-2
        Sirius-2 27 January 2014 19: 40
        +7
        Oh, and generous, you my friend !!! Mach gave up Kiev, and Poltava, and Chernihiv, and Cherkasy ...
        And Transcarpathia inhabited by Rusyns to whom? Hungarians - who are the Magyars-cannibals? If we divide Ukraine without war, then only by the results of a referendum in a single area. And so it is throughout the whole country.
        Ukraine had to switch to the federal principle of organization back in the second half of the 90s, when the distinction of regions was clearly identified.
      2. dr.star75
        dr.star75 27 January 2014 21: 26
        +3
        Nothing good. Our Ukraine! We don’t need someone else’s land, BUT we won’t give up an inch. I propose to consider all talk about the division of Ukraine as a provocation! Ukraine is our brotherly people. INDIVIDUAL.
    5. TEODOR
      TEODOR 27 January 2014 17: 05
      +3
      It’s good that Gates isn’t the president of tana, but rather a stupid enemy than smart and prudent
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    7. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 27 January 2014 17: 27
      +10
      All the same, I would push these Yankees senators, the USSR I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THEM.
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    9. Stalker
      Stalker 27 January 2014 20: 04
      +4
      There are still sober-minded people in America; not everything is so bad to see.

      "There are few real violent ones - there are no leaders" (V. Vysotsky) ...
    10. mnn_13
      mnn_13 27 January 2014 20: 24
      +8
      Yes, they probably remained, but their voice is weakening and weakening. Actually, the offensive on Russia now goes to a wide front. The most important ego points of course are Ukraine and Syria, but they are not the only ones.
      Far from your attention (for the reason of the small mashhab), but the front in Bulgaria is very indicative. There the attack on Russian interests is in full swing. The current government has set the stage for the South Stream project and is showing readiness for negotiations from the Belene NPP. As a result, provoked and well-funded "protests" began in Sofia in the early summer of 2013. They did not lead to anything because the people did not hold and will not support them, but many people successfully interfere with the normal life.
      What started in Ukraine is familiar to us. I guess we were some kind of rehearsal (I will not even call it general). What happens in Ukraine is much more important, the pledge is much more, even what happened and still happens in Sofia but the technologies are the same.
      I am convinced that the puppeteers are aware of the futility of their protégé - an American citizen Klitschko, but their whole mine will not take possession of Ukraine, but chaos and civil war have begun.
      1. Dovmont
        Dovmont 28 January 2014 11: 00
        0
        Far from your attention (for the reason of the small mashab)

        But how far from our attention? !! It's no secret that Bulgaria has been pursuing a clearly pro-Western policy in relations with Russia since the 90s! Yes, and why be surprised! In two world wars in the twentieth century, Bulgaria fought on the side of the enemies of Russia, and after that the Soviet Union.
  2. mountain
    mountain 27 January 2014 15: 35
    +5
    Only the lazy one does not see how America is stretched out in its interests. I wouldn’t burst, ahead of time. Here it will be a laugh.
    1. CALL.
      CALL. 27 January 2014 16: 10
      +3
      Quote: mountain
      Here it will be a laugh.


      Now, it’s no laughing matter. Although I am not against the collapse of the United States.
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 27 January 2014 15: 35
    +9
    McCain, a Republican senator, Gates’s fellow party member, responded: “He could have been silent at least until the next election.”
    That's all democracy! And Gates are afraid and have nothing to lose, he is already aged and wrote, as they say, "the truth is the mother"! With respect..!
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 27 January 2014 15: 40
    +8
    They tore off the navels of the mattress-case ... Expectedly!
    1. My address
      My address 27 January 2014 16: 08
      +1
      But the audacity remained the same.
      As Babama said about Syria in the summer, "we are the best, so we are always right." If only the impudence would be punished with persistent diarrhea ...
  5. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 27 January 2014 16: 03
    +2
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    I never get tired of repeating, playing blackjack with the Chekists is a disastrous thing. And when the Americans understand this ....

    They understood this a long time ago. They just don’t want to admit their loss. They are trying to expose themselves as cheaters with the fifth ace in their sleeves.
  6. Yura
    Yura 27 January 2014 16: 11
    +6
    according to Gates, America is now weaker in the world than after Vietnam.
    Not quite so, I think American and Western politicians and analysts as a whole are led by their stereotype to see their opponent in the global confrontation with Russia as the most powerful and, let’s say, the only danger they pose in spreading their influence and areas of interest in the form in which they they are seen. At the moment, America is no weaker than in the fifties and subsequent years, just a lot of countries that they didn’t take into account have matured, so to speak, grown economically, hence their increased defenses and, as a result, a more obvious manifestation of the protection of their interests on the world stage . They don’t see countries that are already powerful enough behind Russia to compete with them, based on their message that the whole world is their interests, and the interests of all other countries are US interests, they don’t understand that Russia is not their only opponent and all together much more powerful than the United States with its pocket NATO.
  7. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 27 January 2014 16: 14
    +2
    I did not think that the minke whales remained sober-minded people. But they are. But the state leadership cannot understand this truth in any way, that one country cannot rule the whole world. They will constantly disagree. And American foreign policy is currently collapsing on all fronts. I hope she doesn’t have long to tremble in death agony
  8. Chertkov Oleg
    Chertkov Oleg 27 January 2014 16: 27
    +12
    It has long been said:
    "Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you signed, supposedly to justify you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians either honestly, or not playing at all. "

    A common man said, just Otto Bismarck, "Thoughts and Memories"
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 27 January 2014 16: 33
      +3
      Far from a simple person. An excellent politician and a good soldier.
    2. dr.star75
      dr.star75 27 January 2014 21: 32
      +1
      Bismarck, of course, an intelligent guy, and not Germany attacked us? In 1914
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  10. Victor
    Victor 27 January 2014 16: 32
    +25
    For a long time I did not write posts, but in this case I decided to share. If you do not climb too far, then the West, through its actions in Ukraine (in the person of Maydanuty and Banderlog), has achieved very bad results for itself. In this particular case, he did wake up the Russian bear. While Ukraine, as a girl on extradition, flirted and shot with her eyes, the Russian people looked at this as an ordinary prank in their own family. But when the West thrust its dirty and greedy hands into the hem of Ukraine, and lassoed around its neck, patience and smiles came to an end. Ukraine is not Syria! This is the father’s house where we all come from. Of course, full-time troops of the Russian Federation will not cross the border without an invitation from the Ukrainian government, but with regards to the storekeepers, who can still hold weapons in their hands, it is very possible. Moreover, most of them have relatives and friends. I will not speak for everyone, but reserve officers of the Airborne Forces are already discussing such an opportunity. Yes, I think that all of Russia will stand up for our brothers. It is necessary to finish what grandfathers and fathers did not finish. To drive this Bandera scum into the graves, and pour the graves themselves with acid, so that even the grass does not grow there, on their juices. We talked a lot about the future of Ukraine. The time for making decisions and actions is appropriate.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 27 January 2014 17: 59
      +7
      Quote: Victor
      I will not speak for everyone, but reserve officers of the Airborne Forces are already discussing such an opportunity. Yes, I think that all of Russia will stand up for our brothers. It is necessary to finish what grandfathers and fathers did not finish. To drive this Bandera scum into the graves, and pour the graves themselves with acid, so that even the grass does not grow there, on their juices. We talked a lot about the future of Ukraine. The time for making decisions and actions is appropriate.


      It would be nice to organize now in Russia something like a PMC, the main task I see is the protection and defense of military warehouses and arsenals with weapons. Judging by the statement of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Lebedev, the army will not interfere in anything. And this is alarming, they will hand over their weapons to "parallel power structures"
      1. Victor
        Victor 27 January 2014 19: 49
        +3
        Quote: Ascetic
        It would be nice to organize now in Russia something like a PMC, the main task I see is the protection and defense of military warehouses and arsenals with weapons. Judging by the statement of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Lebedev, the army will not interfere in anything. And this is alarming, they will hand over their weapons to "parallel power structures"

        Unfortunately, the law on PMCs did not even go through the first reading. And today, of course, that would be an ideal option.
        1. washi
          washi 28 January 2014 12: 18
          0
          Quote: Victor
          Unfortunately, the law on PMCs did not even go through the first reading. And today, of course, that would be an ideal option.

          PMCs are mercenaries, which is an article in the Criminal Code.
          And volunteers still went to Spain in 1936.
      2. dr.star75
        dr.star75 27 January 2014 21: 21
        0
        In Ukraine there is a Supreme Commander. ALL obey him. Why fence another structure? For Maidan?
    2. s1н7т
      s1н7т 28 January 2014 00: 40
      0
      Before the Olympics, the authorities of the Russian Federation will probably not be happy with such amateur performances - they also need to wash the spent / earned money. In general, I don’t remember something about the mass participation of reserve officers in anything. Now no one believes in anything, alas.
    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 28 January 2014 00: 40
      0
      Before the Olympics, the authorities of the Russian Federation will probably not be happy with such amateur performances - they also need to wash the spent / earned money. In general, I don’t remember something about the mass participation of reserve officers in anything. Now no one believes in anything, alas.
      1. washi
        washi 28 January 2014 12: 22
        0
        Quote: c1n7
        In general, I don’t remember something about the mass participation of reserve officers in anything. Now no one believes in anything, alas.

        No one should see a massive one. And the volunteers were in Serbia and Transnistria.
        Make fun of it: Ukrainian nationalists, crazy about Russophobia, are spreading instructions on how to identify Russian special forces
        http://ar25.org/article/yak-rozpiznaty-v-ukrayini-rosiyskyy-specnaz.html
  11. sinukvl
    sinukvl 27 January 2014 16: 35
    +4
    Smart words of an intelligent person.
  12. Grey68
    Grey68 27 January 2014 16: 36
    +3
    Only Ukraine for us, excuse me, is an order of magnitude closer and more important than Syria. And everyone who keeps the Ukrainian opposition on a short leash knows everything. So hold on!
    It sounds promising, I understand so that the Russian authorities are finally ripe. Well, it's high time.
    1. washi
      washi 28 January 2014 12: 31
      0
      Quote: Grey68
      Only Ukraine for us, excuse me, is an order of magnitude closer and more important than Syria. And everyone who keeps the Ukrainian opposition on a short leash knows everything. So hold on!
      It sounds promising, I understand so that the Russian authorities are finally ripe. Well, it's high time.

      It is not up to the authorities to ripen. The people must ripen.
      And maydanutym need to say thank you for this. Firstly, they showed that the "swamp" people could lead to cham, and secondly, they forced the people of our country to pay attention to the outskirts of our state, to all the outrages that were happening there with our compatriots.
      This is where Russian Natsiks should work (Russians against Bandera), and not beat up the unfortunate Central Asians who have submission in the blood.
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 January 2014 16: 47
    +2
    about american mistakes

    this country itself became a mistake 200 years ago
    1. SIBUR-DV
      SIBUR-DV 27 January 2014 18: 22
      0
      This is most likely not even a country, but a project
      1. bask
        bask 28 January 2014 00: 53
        +3
        Syrian fighters in Aleppo 25.01.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.
        They are already winning. (Blond right on the bottom row)
        But on the central Russian media, this is not to be heard or seen.
        What is the info .. war against the US ?????
        cry.
    2. washi
      washi 28 January 2014 12: 34
      0
      Quote: andrei332809
      about american mistakes

      this country itself became a mistake 200 years ago

      Say thanks to the Romanov dynasty. Supported them in due time.
  14. EvilLion
    EvilLion 27 January 2014 16: 58
    +1
    In fact, there is nothing strange about this, the very share of the US population in the world is now lower. But on the contrary, a number of world outbacks pulled themselves up and there is no point in supporting anti-Russian mongrels, when no one is safe from the fact that Indonesia will not have to share with China, and Russia, even if the USSR is rebuilt, is unlikely to threaten Europe, and even more so, 200 will not climb where-to-thread to Africa.
  15. Arh
    Arh 27 January 2014 17: 26
    +1
    The Ukrainian president needs firmness, not just left-wing pleasing! Introduce a squad of antifa and Cossacks to protect order and confront dishonesty! ! !
  16. Alex
    Alex 27 January 2014 17: 26
    +4
    Quote: Grey68
    It sounds promising, I understand so that the Russian authorities are finally ripe. Well, it's high time.

    Everything is correct, but only the moment for this was chosen by our "sworn friends" very well. On the eve of the Olympics, the Russian leadership is tied hand and foot. At the slightest attempt to influence events in Ukraine, we will instantly receive a complete boycott of the Olympiad. Here are our officials and they are silent, as if they have taken water in their mouths.
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 27 January 2014 22: 05
      +1
      Ralex Today, 17:26
      Quote: Grey68
      It sounds promising, I understand so that the Russian authorities are finally ripe. Well, it's high time.
      Everything is correct, but only the moment for this was chosen by our "sworn friends" very well. On the eve of the Olympics, the Russian leadership is tied hand and foot. At the slightest attempt to influence events in Ukraine, we will instantly receive a complete boycott of the Olympiad. Here are our officials and they are silent, as if they have taken water in their mouths.

      Nefig was generally associated with the Olympics. Do we demonstrate the level of well-being? Say, can we? Why stupid show-offs? Instead of Sochi, it would be better if they built a couple of PRKSN. Imho.
    2. washi
      washi 28 January 2014 12: 40
      0
      Quote: Ralex
      Everything is correct, but only the moment for this was chosen by our "sworn friends" very well. On the eve of the Olympics, the Russian leadership is tied hand and foot. At the slightest attempt to influence events in Ukraine, we will instantly receive a complete boycott of the Olympiad. Here are our officials and they are silent, as if they have taken water in their mouths.

      Officially, yes.
      But the Olympics are not such a bad thing. The fact that Sochi finally made a normal sewage system is already a plus. Now you can swim. If the locals are even more modest, what for do you need a foreign country? Want to sunbathe, want to skate.
      The following international competitions must be held in Siberia. In the Far East (Vladivostok), sewers to APEC have already been made.
  17. individual
    individual 27 January 2014 17: 38
    0
    Russia did not manage to trample the USA in Syria, and Washington is already marking time on the Maidan.
  18. Bosskant150
    Bosskant150 27 January 2014 17: 39
    0
    After a fire, a pump is not needed. Point. Really nemchury still have not understood this.
  19. shelva
    shelva 27 January 2014 17: 43
    0
    Maybe America is "tired and does not want to participate in international conflicts" - Russia cannot relax in any way. Yes and no faith in the former CIA officer, the enemy. They have enough strength to muddy the waters together with the EU in Ukraine, Serbia, and you never know where else.
  20. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 27 January 2014 17: 48
    +1
    The author is a big plus! Gates, a man who has lived and seen, many will agree with his opinion !, Russia can’t even be tried, discounted is a common truth. Gates’s article is another attempt to cancel the confrontation between the first players.
  21. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 27 January 2014 18: 05
    +3
    Wake up Vissarionych, your underelicts stir!
  22. Snipe 74
    Snipe 74 27 January 2014 18: 12
    +3
    Quote: EvilLion
    In fact, there is nothing strange about this, the very share of the US population in the world is now lower. But on the contrary, a number of world outbacks pulled themselves up and there is no point in supporting anti-Russian mongrels, when no one is safe from the fact that Indonesia will not have to share with China, and Russia, even if the USSR is rebuilt, is unlikely to threaten Europe, and even more so, 200 will not climb where-to-thread to Africa.

    It is in vain that you underestimate the economic opportunities of our Russia. With good will and a good host, it is very realistic to pull the country up to the leaders of the world ranking. Moreover, I just do not understand why we are marking time. Well, our government cannot lead the country. So you need to replace. Yes, with our capabilities in 10 years, we will cut off both plants and factories.
    1. Yura
      Yura 27 January 2014 19: 11
      +1
      Quote: Snipe 74
      Moreover, I just do not understand why we are marking time. Well, our government cannot lead the country. So you need to replace. Yes, with our capabilities in 10 years, we will cut off both plants and factories.

      The same thoughts, the same question, I do not see the answer yet.
      1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
        Yuri Sev Caucasus 27 January 2014 21: 54
        +2
        the answer is pretty simple, our whole economy, so to speak, is concentrated in the hands of neoliberals; Kudrin, Gref and Nabibulin they pursue an economic policy not of growth but of curbing the slide into recession.
    2. Cpa
      Cpa 27 January 2014 19: 34
      +2
      Quote: Snipe 74
      With good will and a good host, it is very realistic to pull the country up to the leaders of the world ranking.

      We have long been offering our ratings based on our paradigm, otherwise, even having a per capita income like in Norway, we will lag behind an alien ideology
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 28 January 2014 02: 56
        +1
        Quote: Snipe 74
        Well, our government cannot lead the country.

        Why can’t it, it’s very directing, only the movement in the other direction. It was said above about the traitors remaining in leading posts. Very similar. For what they will not undertake, in the form of reforms usually, there collapse. In the economy, according to many analysts and economists, measures are being taken to curb growth. One small and medium-sized business is worth what is visible without an armed eye.
  23. Stinger
    Stinger 27 January 2014 18: 34
    0
    "The arrogance of the Americans, who told the Russians how to conduct their business, led to deep rejection and bitterness."

    This is not only in relation to Russia. They do not know how otherwise, since this state originally arose as a gangster state only two hundred years ago. Adventurers, gathered from around the world, killed the indigenous population and unceremoniously seized the lands of the natives. Now, with the same impudence, their descendants are teaching countries with millennia-old stories how to live.
  24. Neophyte
    Neophyte 27 January 2014 19: 08
    +2
    Lyndon Laroche very accurately named the enemies of Russia, but did not answer how to destroy Wall Street, because the queen
    Lizka and her friends, the Rothschilds, have ruled America for a long time. All 300 years, and maybe more, we put up with
    painful injections from British expansion.
  25. Grey68
    Grey68 27 January 2014 20: 31
    +2
    Quote: Ralex
    In anticipation of the Olympics, the Russian leadership is bound hand and foot. At the slightest attempt to influence events in Ukraine, we will instantly get a full boycott of the Olympiad.

    Not a single Olympics is worth a civil war at hand. The USSR experienced a boycott; what is worse than Russia?
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  27. AVV
    AVV 27 January 2014 21: 36
    +1
    Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
    Sober-minded people still remained in America, to see not everything is so bad.

    He’s just a man who worked at the head of the most key structures under various presidents of the USA and therefore he’s not in the subject and he’s not heard, it’s a bluff for the leaders of this country !!! He will not advise anything bad! With him, Russia has lowered its development below the plinth, and then perked up and regained its potential, so he knows what he is saying !!! But the different Makeins there do not want to listen to him and will bend their line !!! For the United States, this will be the biggest mistake !!!
  28. Egoza
    Egoza 27 January 2014 21: 41
    0
    American expert advises to divide Ukraine "Divide Ukraine!" - under this heading the famous American expert and publicist Eric Margolis published his article in the online edition LewRockwell.com. The subtitle of his article reads: "Peaceful disengagement can prevent a terrible war." "Ukraine is sharply divided," Margolis argues in his article. Moreover, pointing out the reasons for this split, the author points out that the point is not only in linguistic, ethnic or religious differences, but also in the fact that the West of Ukraine is inclined towards European integration, and the East of Ukraine is rightly afraid of losing its industry in the event of a break with Russia ... At the same time, the author points out that foreigners, in particular, US Senator John McCain, also threw wood into the fire of the conflict in Ukraine. Margolis points out that the senator and other high-ranking Americans in Kiev have openly called for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government. "It is interesting that they did not go to Cairo to blame the incredibly brutal fascist dictatorship of the Egyptian military junta sponsored by the United States and Saudi Arabia," Margolis noted ...……. "If the violence continues to tear Ukraine apart," Margolis concludes, "the question of division will inevitably arise Just like the Czechs and Slovaks, Ukrainians may decide to go their separate ways.If the hotheads among Ukrainians cannot reach some kind of stable compromise, divorce may be the only possible option.This is certainly bad, but not as bad as the real a terrible confrontation between NATO and Russia over Ukraine. Incredible? Well, very few people imagined this about Sarajevo or Bosnia in 1914. "
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136925.html
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 28 January 2014 00: 41
      +3
      as if the amers and Bendera’s eggs weren’t divided! Do not touch us, everyone will feel sick ...
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    3. washi
      washi 28 January 2014 12: 48
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      Quote: Egoza
      American expert advises to divide Ukraine "Divide Ukraine!"

      I will add
      The Ukrainians of Transcarpathia hope to protect Hungary from Galician extremists.
      Residents of Transcarpathia, who have Hungarian citizenship, are convinced that if the political and social situation in the region worsens, Hungary will be ready to send troops to the territory of the westernmost region of Ukraine to stabilize the situation and protect its citizens.
      It is possible that Transcarpathia can repeat the story from 1939, when Hungary sent troops to Transcarpathia to counter Galician extremism, the Internet portal Kresy.pl reports.
      Note that a significant part of the population of Transcarpathian region are ethnic Hungarians, some of them have dual citizenship.
      We will remind, earlier, Noviny Zakarpattya reported that about 300 Transcarpathians occupied the Veretsky Pass and blocked the entrance of Galician extremists to Transcarpathia. This was due to the fact that several hundred residents of Lviv region went to Uzhgorod to capture the regional state administration and administrative buildings. Transcarpathians are against such robbery, so they decided not to allow Galicians to host on their territory.
      Only they have forgotten about the Rusins ​​(Russians), whom the modern Ukrainian authorities do not want to recognize, and even under Austro-Hungarian they were crowded in camps.
  29. 1goose3
    1goose3 27 January 2014 21: 42
    +1
    Quote: Stalker
    Stalker RU Today, 20:04 ↑ New

    There are still sober-minded people in America; not everything is so bad to see.

    "There are few real violent ones - there are no leaders" (V. Vysotsky) ...


    Exactly! good good
  30. Orakyl
    Orakyl 27 January 2014 22: 03
    +3
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions! All of them deeply do not care about Russia, therefore, whatever they "sing", they cannot be trusted !!! never!!!
  31. Barakuda
    Barakuda 27 January 2014 22: 20
    +2
    Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
    Sober-minded people still remained in America, to see not everything is so bad.

    Well, yes, Gates crap under 4 presidents, now he is looking for the last one to wipe his ass ... Example - Misha Gorbachev, he’s ruined the country and sits in America, yapping, what a cool kid I was.
  32. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 27 January 2014 23: 22
    +2
    Quote: Victor
    Yes, I think that all of Russia will stand up for our brothers. It is necessary to finish what grandfathers and fathers did not finish. Drive this Bandera scum ...

    1. Said very good. I completely share both words and thoughts.
    2. If you dig deeper, the situation will open up a little more complicated.
    In Russia, there are also bandits and nationalists. They can also go to their little brothers. And this is the first thing that cannot be allowed. For there are situations when a fly in the ointment spoils a barrel of honey.
    The civil war is such that almost only civilians die, and one professional from any side is a tragedy for many. Years will pass, ideologies and reality will be forgotten, and the remaining grief will not be allowed into the bright future.
    3. There are no complaints against grandfathers, they did what they could, the whole world was surprised at this.
    Fathers (if this generation was born in the 1950-1960s) not only did not complete, but also did business in the 1990s.
    And I don’t know how to wash this generation.
    I myself belong to him, ashamed ...
    But it turned out that neither education, nor the example of elders, nor scientific propaganda guarantee vaccinations against devils of greed and power.
    So now we need to understand the situation with friends and enemies as if anew.
    But the example of grandfathers is an example of the heroic only right way in incredibly difficult conditions.
    4. But Bandera and others like them should not remain on our common land.
  33. alone
    alone 27 January 2014 23: 47
    0
    I would like to know how things are with the newly made vice president of Rosneft.

    So that Misha doesn’t speak well, he speaks and speaks, and in the end he achieved a career for himself))
  34. konvalval
    konvalval 28 January 2014 00: 14
    +1
    Quote: Victor
    For a long time I did not write posts, but in this case I decided to share. If you do not climb too far, then the West, through its actions in Ukraine (in the person of Maydanuty and Banderlog), has achieved very bad results for itself. In this particular case, he did wake up the Russian bear. While Ukraine, as a girl on extradition, flirted and shot with her eyes, the Russian people looked at this as an ordinary prank in their own family. But when the West thrust its dirty and greedy hands into the hem of Ukraine, and lassoed around its neck, patience and smiles came to an end. Ukraine is not Syria! This is the father’s house where we all come from. Of course, full-time troops of the Russian Federation will not cross the border without an invitation from the Ukrainian government, but with regards to the storekeepers, who can still hold weapons in their hands, it is very possible. Moreover, most of them have relatives and friends. I will not speak for everyone, but reserve officers of the Airborne Forces are already discussing such an opportunity. Yes, I think that all of Russia will stand up for our brothers. It is necessary to finish what grandfathers and fathers did not finish. To drive this Bandera scum into the graves, and pour the graves themselves with acid, so that even the grass does not grow there, on their juices. We talked a lot about the future of Ukraine. The time for making decisions and actions is appropriate.

    What is the invitation of the troops of the Russian Federation, if the troops of Ukraine are blocked in their garrisons.
  35. valokordin
    valokordin 28 January 2014 02: 26
    0
    Mikhail’s philosophical thoughts can be answered that if America lost a little in Syria, she really wants to take revenge in Ukraine. I would also like to add that Ukraine is already trying to bring its military-industrial complex to NATO standards, and this is not talk. Here he is Victor Mazepovich.
  36. rauffg
    rauffg 28 January 2014 06: 17
    +2
    and the bogs started stirring about the Maidan, they dream that it was the same in Russia
    RPR-PARNAS co-chair and deputy of the Yaroslavl Regional Duma Boris Nemtsov, who in 2005 was an adviser to the "orange" president of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko, wonders: "Is Maidan possible in Russia with blood and fratricidal massacre?"

    “Residents of the Kremlin, I am sure, wake up in a cold sweat every night, imagining how the tires burn and Molotov cocktails fly in the Manezh area. The honest answer to this question is YES. This is possible in Russia, ”the opposition wrote on his Facebook.

    At the end of December, a member of the bureau of the RPR-PARNAS political council, Ilya Yashin, in an interview with the New Region, said that Maidan would be repeated sooner or later in Russia, "which would sweep away Vladimir Putin’s regime." He made this statement in Kiev, where he was at the invitation of the "Fatherland" to address the rally.

    “This, of course, is impressive. Thousands, tens of thousands gather here. People know what they want. Their fight for their own European choice deserves respect, ”Yashin said, adding that the protesters saw“ that this is a marathon distance, but they are determined to achieve what they want. ”

    Yashin also admitted that he was not embarrassed in the crowd by the black and red flags of Bandera. “This is a protest that unites a variety of people. But they have a common understanding of what needs to be done here and now. And they will solve all the contradictions tomorrow in parliament, ”he said.


    Well, as they say, dreaming is not harmful ...
  37. Dovmont
    Dovmont 28 January 2014 11: 03
    0
    Quote: My address
    But the audacity remained the same.
    As Babama said about Syria in the summer, "we are the best, so we are always right." If only the impudence would be punished with persistent diarrhea ...

    ..... or at least powerful flatulence (gas exhaustion)