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Rosnano - this is not a crime?

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In April last year, speaking at a press conference, Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin assessed the activities of Rosnano. “They themselves point out losses in the amount of 2,5 billion rubles. Money, of course, rather big ... There are punctures, failures, but this is not criminal activity, ”said the president.


Let's analyze one of the most significant investments of Rosnano. In 2009, the state-owned company decided to invest in the Unirem asphalt modifier production project.

First you need to check the applicant - a company that claims to receive investments Rosnano. The project applicant was the New Rubber company headed by businessman Mikhail Lerner.
All firms and individuals participating in state-owned company projects and applying for investments from it, undergo a lot of expertise and checks.

Rosnano has at its disposal a whole staff of highly professional employees of the security department, including current employees of the FSB. What should have been discovered by checking out Novy Kauchuk and its manager Mikhail Lerner in 2009?

The test results should show:
Mikhail Lerner has a debt in the amount of about 1 billion rubles, which was formed during the construction of a financial pyramid under the guise of the work of the car dealer Dim + KO. Debt is not serviced, interest and interest are accumulated on it.
In the courts there are a number of multimillion claims from lenders - banks, individuals and legal entities.
His former companies, under whose activities loans were taken are in the bankruptcy stage.
Law enforcement agencies received a statement alleging that Mikhail Lerner was criminally liable for fraud (in 2012, he was sentenced to five years probation for this crime).
To hide the property from lenders, Michael conspires with his wife Svetlana. He forges the signature of one of the founders and translates the building of 413 sq.m. owned by DiM + Co LLC. at Trend Auto LLC. His share - 25% in this company, he re-registers with his wife.
At the same time, he enters into an agreement with his father-in-law, Alexander Vershinin, and re-registers his stake in Novy Kauchuk GC LLC, the company that will later receive investments from Rosnano (they are now both arrested and in jail on charges of fraud another criminal case).

Having received all this information, Rosnano makes a decision:
Approve the project of expanding the production of the modifier "Unirem" and invest 1,9 billion rubles into it.
Create a subsidiary of LLC “Unikom”, 35% of which belongs to Rosnano, and 65% - LLC GK “Novy Kauchuk”
Appoint Mikhail Lerner as Director General of Unikom.

It is unlikely that such a decision could be taken collectively. Most likely, the decision on such a strange appointment was directly at the mercy of the general director of Rosnano, Anatoly Chubais.

What was the logic of this designation? Perhaps Anatoly Chubais in this position did not need a scientist who developed a promising technology. Also, he did not need a man who could organize production and sales. On the site of the head of “Unikom” was a man who knows how to take loans, re-register property and bankrupt the companies under whose activities these loans were raised.

In May, 2010 of the year addressed to Anatoly Chubais received a deputy request, which states:

Lerner Mikhail Ilich ... has liabilities on long-overdue loans totaling about 1,01 billion rubles. Today, the approximate debt, taking into account interest, penalties and penalties, is 1,5 billion rubles. C 2004 year Lerner M.I. through repeated re-laying of property on trusting relationships with close people, with the help of deception and lies, attracted more and more new loans ...

In 2008, Lerner M.I bought a building in the industrial area of ​​Podolsk for about 70 million rubles, taking out a loan from Dil-Bank, after which, making an overestimated assessment of the building, re-credited Sotsgorbank, receiving 150 million rubles. To date, according to preliminary estimates, the cost of the building is about 30 million rubles. Thus, the money received from the Rosnano state corporation went to cover the previously formed debts of Lerner M.I.

After that, Mikhail Lerner is formally transferred to the post of chairman of the board of directors, which gives him the opportunity to maintain control over the company and dispose of government money, and Irina Chaykin, who has no special education or work experience in production, is appointed to the post of general director.

As a result, the same thing happened with Unicom as with the previous business of Mikhail Lerner. Rosnano invested in its daughter 810 million rubles. government money in the form of share repurchases and loans. In 2013, Unicom filed for bankruptcy. At the same time, the second co-owner of Unikom, LLC GK Novy Kauchuk, also went bankrupt.

The result is the work of Mikhail Lerner in the automotive business:
- Dim + Co LLC - bankrupt;
- Trend-Auto LLC is a technical company of Mikhail Lerner, where he hid his share of 25% in DiM + Co. LLC, registering it with his wife Svetlana — bankrupt;
- D-Avto LLC - a technical company registered for Alyona Sanatovna Shahabutdinova, director of a car dealership at DiM + Co LLC - bankrupt;
- LLC DIMKO.RU-Vyazma - bankrupt;
- LLC “DIMKO.RU-Stary Oskol - bankrupt;
- LLC “DIMKO.RU” - abandoned;
- LLC "DiM + Co-service" - abandoned;
- The damage from the pyramid built by him ranged from 1 to 1,5 billion rubles. This is the money that its lenders have lost - banks, individuals and legal entities.

The result of the work of Mikhail Lerner as the top manager of Rosnano:
- LLC GK Novy Kauchuk - bankrupt;
- LLC “Unikom” - bankrupt;
- The damage amounted to 810 million rubles, but this time the state lost money.

These are the consequences of the decision to appoint Mikhail Lerner as the General Director and the Chairman of the Board of Directors of Unikom LLC.
What makes it possible for the head of Rosnano to behave so frivolously and make such decisions without regard to society and law enforcement agencies? Maybe patronage by the president? After all, if Putin said that this is not criminal activity, then it is not criminal activity. And it does not matter what the facts of the state corporation’s activities indicate.
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  1. makarov
    makarov 24 January 2014 08: 16
    +16
    Rosnano - this is not a crime?

    Certainly not criminality, only the structure is run by a red-haired beast, who has long been shining for life for "exploits" !!!! Only, after all, someone is covering abundantly, and therefore has benefits from it. I see no other explanation !!!
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 24 January 2014 09: 04
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      losses in the amount of 2,5 billion rubles .... but this is not criminality, - said the president.
      THERE IS HERE PRESE-DENT CAN REPLACE YOURSELF AND CONSEQUENCE, AND THE COURT, AND CAN'T WITH SIR DUKE?
      Does the president have double standards formed, or does it seem to me alone?
    2. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 24 January 2014 09: 32
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      Quote: makarov
      Certainly not criminality, only the structure is run by a red-haired beast, who has long been shining for life for "exploits" !!!!


      I think whoever they put in there, no matter what, the current article would be published and a lot of criticism and cries would not become less. After all, any decision of the authorities by default is wrong, and all those who agree with it are ala-Poghosyan-strangle-aviation industry or ala-Bykovy-ruin-hockey and it doesn’t matter what and how these people do.

      As for Chubais, he should have a good time for retirement and preferably away from assets, his time has practically passed, and what remains is melting before our eyes.
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      2. Hon
        Hon 24 January 2014 09: 47
        +9
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        I think whoever they put in there, no matter what, the current article would be published and a lot of criticism and cries would not become less.

        But they put Chubais! At the same time, Putin openly defends him.
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        As for Chubais, he should have a good time for retirement and preferably away from assets, his time has practically passed, and what remains is melting before our eyes.

        Nowhere has gone, on the contrary now is the time ...
      3. Normal
        Normal 24 January 2014 11: 35
        +12
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        I think whoever they put there, no matter

        Lying! There is always a difference. Even in the case when a structure is created that was originally intended for the development and expansion of budgetary funds (RUSNANO is such a structure), the Person (and her personal qualities) of the head are of great importance. It can only be denied by a pro-government bribe-teller on the content of this very authority.
        In this case, Chubais (as practice has shown) is ideally suited - billions in losses and no one is to blame for anything. Everything is sewn indoor.
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        the current article would be published, and a lot of criticism and cries would not become less.


        Again a lie and demagoguery.
        If there were real positive results from the activities of RUSNANO. If under the leadership of Chubais a profit (FANTASTIC !!!) of 2,5 yards was made, and not losses in that amount, then what would this article be about and would it be at all?

        Quote: sledgehammer102
        After all, any decision by the authorities is wrong by default, and all those who agree with it are ala-Poghosyan-strangle-aviation industry or ala-Bykovy-ruin-hockey and it doesn’t matter what these people do and how.


        Pure as a baby's tear. DEMAGOGY.

        To cover up the thieves' actions, the imperious appointee and his accomplices will be pulled by the ears of Poghosyan, who, with all the ambiguity of his activities, nevertheless brought his "super-duper" to production and Vyacheslav Bykov who
        . Five-time world champion and two-time Olympic champion in the national teams of the USSR, CIS and Russia. Honored Coach of Russia.
        Under the leadership of which our team returned to itself and the next year defended the title of world champions after a 15-year break.
        And what did the positive Chubais do? Not for yourself and your accomplices, but for the country?

        And no need to talk about "any decisions of the authorities" If these decisions, as in foreign policy, lead to positive results, then no one calls them wrong.

        Quote: sledgehammer102
        As for Chubais, he should have a good time for retirement and preferably away from assets, his time has practically passed, and what remains is melting before our eyes.


        Oh well ?! belay
        This otkel such news is joyful ??? fellow
        In my opinion, if his time is gone, then only along with the time of the ruling elite of Russia. But this is not yet noticeable.
        1. Kite
          Kite 24 January 2014 22: 16
          0
          Quote: Normal
          To cover the thieves' actions, the imperious appointee and his accomplices will be pulled over the ears of Poghosyan

          Chubais outshined all other authorities? But, in JSC "Rusnano" and the surname of exactly that Poghosyan is found.
          I myself have a very negative opinion about Chubais, but I am not going to extend this opinion to all the activities of OJSC "Rusnano", therefore I consider mentioning only one or two persons from the entire OJSC to be incorrect, tendentious, custom-made, populist. Why not write directly about Chubais and his friend. And it is necessary to mention "Rusnano" with the addition of JSC, so that it is clear who can whom for what and how to remove / imprison.
      4. Garrin
        Garrin 24 January 2014 11: 50
        +10
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        As for Chubais, he should have a good time for retirement and preferably away from assets, his time has practically passed, and what remains is melting before our eyes.

        What kind of pension are you talking about? He has the right place in uranium mines to earn solders of balandas.
      5. baltika-18
        baltika-18 24 January 2014 12: 22
        +5
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        As for Chubais, he should have a good time for retirement and preferably away from assets, his time has practically passed, and what remains is melting before our eyes.

        It’s not time for him to retire, but to begin with in a prison cell. Well, then either shoot him or hang him.
      6. avg
        avg 24 January 2014 12: 51
        +3
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        I think whoever they put in there, no matter what, the current article would be published and a lot of criticism and cries would not become less.

        Learn to distinguish between cause and effect.
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        As for Chubais, it’s good time for him to retire and preferably away from assets

        That away from assets is right. But not for retirement, but for the zone. You need to answer for everything.
      7. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 24 January 2014 15: 00
        +3
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        As for Chubais, it’s good time for him to retire and preferably away from assets

        As for Chubais, it’s good for him for a long time to go to the bunks away from people.
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        After all, any decision by the authorities by default is wrong

        Do not generalize like that.
    3. Andrey57
      Andrey57 24 January 2014 11: 29
      +12
      What was the logic of this designation? Perhaps Anatoly Chubais in this position did not need a scientist who developed a promising technology. Also, he did not need a man who could organize production and sales. On the site of the head of “Unikom” was a man who knows how to take loans, re-register property and bankrupt the companies under whose activities these loans were raised.


      RUSNANO IS THE CORNER !!!
      That technology, under which almost a billion was leaked, DOES NOT NEED ANY DEVELOPMENT !!! Everything has been developed for a long time, the equipment has been mass-produced, behind the abstruse words in the title of the topic under which they stole a billion, there is a banal addition of 7% butyl rubber and 5% polyethylene to the asphalt mix, percentages can vary, Canadians have been doing it for more than 30 years already, buying butyl rubber in Togliatti !
      Hence the conclusion - writing off money for the development of what has long been known and used for decades is DIRECT THEFT AND CRIMINAL !!!
      And GDP - covers thieves.
    4. host
      host 24 January 2014 12: 24
      +5
      The state has suffered billions of damage (not criminality) - the logic is clear, but let's transfer the situation to a simple worker and the logic immediately disappears. A worker would have been kicked out of his job for such work long ago, but Chubais receives prizes and continues to "crap" Russia.
      There is only one truth left: capitalism - gives rise to class contradictions (social, legal, economic inequality).
      Russia goes in a circle 1917-2017 ????
      1. Lk17619
        Lk17619 24 January 2014 12: 43
        +2
        Quote: master
        Russia goes in a circle 1917-2017 ????


        Everything seems to be going towards this.
    5. Stinger
      Stinger 24 January 2014 14: 46
      +1
      And I immediately remembered as a healthy private trader A.I. Koreyko, who decided to help the grape republic build a power plant. “Koreiko’s words came true. The construction of the grape republic became unusually popular throughout the Soviet Union. Revenues flowed from all sides. But Alexander Ivanovich did not let go of them. He took twenty-five percent under a contract, and appropriated the same amount, referring to the fact that not all caravans still received reports, and used the rest of the money to expand the postcard business.
      “One must be a good master,” he said quietly, “one must not stop halfway.” First, we’ll put things right. Then real income will appear.
      "
    6. oper66
      oper66 24 January 2014 15: 20
      +1
      Certainly not criminality !!!! criminality is theft or robbery and they do not steal and do not rob !!! They are "masters" and just take it from themselves, but we are the people of thieves and extra mouths - dependents for them we want a salary and pensions and education with medicine ... well, we do not have CONSCIENCE spying on the owners
    7. alone
      alone 24 January 2014 19: 39
      +1
      They themselves point to losses of 2,5 billion rubles. The money, of course, is rather big ... There are punctures, failures, but this is not criminality, ”the president said.


      Well, yes of course, what is 2,5 billion rubles? A trifle. A loss of 2,5 billion draws on negligence)) laughing
  2. Name
    Name 24 January 2014 08: 17
    +19
    N-e Rusnano is not criminality, it is Terry Crimp!A repeat of history in such a short period of time: Oboronservis, Rusnano, probably the next Skolkovo ... winked
    1. AVV
      AVV 24 January 2014 11: 57
      +3
      But it was long necessary to deal with Ryzhim after his privatization numbers !!! But he isn’t drowning, but the question is why? Or has he done little damage to the state to citizens as well ??? hires rogues for this !!!
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 24 January 2014 12: 18
        +6
        And under Stalin, they stole, of course. But with an eye out. Like a sparrow, he bites and immediately looks around.
        In 1940, the Salair mine, which still produces zinc-silver ore, was mined then. The miners have two salaries - in rubles and bonds. For booms you can buy sugar, rice, tangerines, chocolate, cocoa, tea. For rubles everything else. Bonds received only in underground work. The bosses could also earn bonuses - on Saturdays and Sundays. But where did you see the boss with the kyle? But I want chocolates.
        A boss came to instruct my mother how to create surplus. Then behind the counter was a large box - called a chest. Loader pours sugar into the chest, dirt on his feet on the floor will bring a lot. Causes damage. She comes with a bucket of hot water and washes the floor. Then for the second time - concern for cleanliness in the store. Those who understand in physics and chemistry have already guessed that all products have increased in mass. So the surplus was created. By weight! Then someone from the authorities comes with a piece of paper: "Let go of so much." Lets go. Where to go? And he puts the papers in a bag. Wraps with oilcloth and bury in the garden.
        The crooks were given by the children of the bosses. Previously, children of workers treated children of bosses. And now they have become and vice versa. This phenomenon of the NKVD noted. Where is the source from? Did an audit. Everything is fine. They made a sign and established it - a local source. They took the mother for the gills: "Did they release tangerines for such and such?" - Let go. - And why free? - And he had an instruction. “What instruction?” - A piece of paper. We call it a cheat sheet. - Show me a piece of paper. - They are in the garden. We came to the garden, dug up, deployed.
        Then it all came up. Handwriting brought to the head. He gave the whole group. On the green lawn is a long table covered with red cloth. At the table on the bench are three judges. At the end of the table is the prosecutor. Opposite his court clerk. On the other side of the table, opposite the judges, thieves are sitting on chairs with their heads down. On two sides are two soldiers with joined bayonets. Around the crescent are the workers from the faces. This is what the court looked like before the war. Right in the open.
        The prosecutor frantic, as Chapay once: “Who are you stealing from? At your worker! You were specifically given two days a week. ” This is now the prosecutors are not judging those. And then they gave the term to whom it was necessary. And not only the term. One was acquitted - was agreed. Two shooting. The rest is 10 years old. Rolled up a lorry. The soldiers jumped into the back. They invited suicide bombers. One, putting his foot on the slope of the rear wheel, was about to throw his second leg overboard. But the forces left him. Fell by the ramp. A girl came running in a white coat. I put a cotton wool with ammonia under my nose. Rose. Planted the thief workers on the last journey. The second jumped into the back.
        When they ask me if there were thieves under Stalin, I reply: “They were. Not many, but they were. ” V.Ya. ZELENKO, Stavropol
  3. calocha
    calocha 24 January 2014 08: 21
    -9
    Putin is surrounded by swindlers of all stripes, he simply does not have time to delve into everything .. Artists of criminal talent are throwing dust in his eyes and Putin ... believes! It is hard to believe that Putin is with them for one ...
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    2. Hon
      Hon 24 January 2014 08: 34
      +22
      Quote: calocha
      Putin is surrounded by swindlers of all stripes, he simply does not have time to delve into everything .. Artists of criminal talent are throwing dust in his eyes and Putin ... believes! It is hard to believe that Putin is with them for one ...

      Our king is good, just trusting. This boyars are bad ...
      1. calocha
        calocha 24 January 2014 08: 46
        +4
        There was no cleaning, but it would not hurt!
        1. lapo32
          lapo32 24 January 2014 09: 30
          -1
          And now what is happening, though thieves squealing at all sites
      2. predator.3
        predator.3 24 January 2014 09: 04
        +17
        Quote: Hon
        Our king is good, just trusting. This boyars are bad ...


        Or maybe this "tsar" sits at the red-haired man on an iron kukan, i.e. Tolyan has some kind of killer compromising evidence on him and he cannot touch him, but on the contrary "bumps" with grandmas, more precisely billions of Rusnano, which does nothing, but only "assimilates" money, i.e. pays off the redhead, or rather pay tribute!
        1. Normal
          Normal 24 January 2014 09: 50
          +12
          Quote: predator.3
          Or maybe this "tsar" sits at the red-haired man on an iron kukan,


          IN!!! good drinks

          When the future tsar turned things around in St. Petersburg, Chubais was cooler in the orang table, influence and position and could not know the mechanics and the results of those affairs.
          1. CALL.
            CALL. 24 January 2014 12: 42
            +7
            Quote: Normal
            When the future tsar turned things around in St. Petersburg, Chubais was cooler in the orang table, influence and position and could not know the mechanics and the results of those affairs.

            After the defeat of A. Sobchak in the election of the governor of St. Petersburg in June 1996, V. Putin was out of work, and A. Chubais, being the head of the presidential administration B. Yeltsin, took him to work. So the Chubais-Putin tandem took shape.
            Being in the head of the FSB of Russia in 1998-99, he disbanded the Directorate of Economic Counterintelligence and Counterintelligence Support of Strategic Objects. The first revealed all the most serious economic crimes, the second - did not allow to take the enterprises that make up the glory of Russia into the ownership of foreigners.
            1. military
              military 24 January 2014 15: 55
              +2
              Quote: Z.O.V.
              So the Chubais-Putin tandem took shape.

              how is Gleb Zheglov? ...
              "... a stable community was born, in the common people called ..." winked
        2. Selevc
          Selevc 24 January 2014 14: 06
          +2
          According to the Russian deputy Fedorov, Chubais is the head of the Russian External Control System ... He is like a gauleiter in the occupied territories - he makes sure that the country regularly pays tribute and constantly holds beautiful but fictitious posts that cover schemes for pumping financial resources out of the country ...

          Putin, as a representative of the local government by rank, is initially lower than a Gauleiter and simply has no authority to do anything with it ... He can only front the invaders and put small sticks in their wheels, but he cannot fundamentally change the system ...
          An interesting hypothesis - it sounds unrealistic but is confirmed by facts ... The assassination attempt by Kvachkov, Naidenov and Yashin on Chubais is actually the assassination of a radically minded part of the army elite against the real Russian ruler ...
          On July 31, 1992, Chubais established Order No. 141, the Department of Technical Assistance and Expertise, in which American economic advisers worked. The head of the department, Jonathan Hay, according to the statement of the former chairman of the State Property Committee, Vladimir Polevanov [15], was an employee of the CIA. In 2004, a lawsuit was launched against Jonathan Hay and Andrei Shleifer in the United States on charges of fraud and financial abuse of embezzling US taxpayers' money. Polevanov noted about the activities of Chubais's advisers: “Having lifted the documents, I was horrified to find that a number of the largest enterprises of the military-industrial complex were bought up by foreigners for nothing. That is, the factories and design bureaus that produced top-secret products are out of our control. The same Jonathan Hay with the help of Chubais bought a 30% stake in the Moscow Electrode Plant and cooperated with him in the Research Institute “Graphite” - the country's only developer of graphite coating for stealth-type stealth aircraft. After that, Haye blocked the order of the military space forces for the production of high technologies ”[15].

          Later, in a November 2004 interview with The Financial Times, Chubais said that privatization in Russia was carried out solely for the purpose of fighting for power against the “communist leaders”: “We needed to get rid of them, but we did not have time for this . The bill went not for months, but for days. ” Chubais also believes that holding collateral auctions is correct when, according to the newspaper, "the most valuable and largest Russian assets were transferred to a group of tycoons in exchange for loans and support for the seriously ill then Yeltsin in the 1996 elections." According to Chubais, the transfer to the oligarchs of control over enterprises with hundreds of thousands of workers helped them acquire an administrative resource that prevented the opposition Communist Party from winning the 1996 presidential election: “If we had not secured privatization, the Communists would have won the elections in 1996.”

          I wonder why no one has shot him so far.
      3. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 24 January 2014 11: 32
        0
        That's right, the main thing is to find enemies ...

        P.S. Do not get it wrong, I’m not one of the liberals myself, but damn it
        1. vlad.svargin
          vlad.svargin 24 January 2014 13: 28
          +2
          Roman 1977 US
          P.S. Do not get it wrong, I’m not one of the liberals myself, but damn it

          We understood you correctly, the main point was camouflaged under an anecdote. The usual tactic of "God's chosen" is to make the truth a laughing stock in order to divert attention.
          Now about Chubais:
          So fraudulently, deceitfully, with deceit, thieving, basely and impudently Chubais began the privatization of Russia, as a result of which a handful of Chubais' fellow-brothers managed to appropriate the fabulous national wealth of Russia, robbing tens of millions of Russian citizens without rights, destitute and hungry, and the country began to die out at an unprecedented pace. ... Instead of the promised millions of owners, thousands of strong business executives, the country received a flock of unprincipled and immoral predators who continue to tear to pieces and gnaw Russia. (Boris Mironov "Chubais is the enemy of the people facts and documents")

          What happened to the energy sector of the Russian Federation after Chubais:
          “The fragmentation and privatization of a unified energy system put in the first place not the energy security of people, but profit. Now we are on the verge of a complete collapse of the system, ”said Lyudmila Bychkova, head of the IGSO expert group. According to her, the replacement of energy professionals in leadership positions by non-technical managers has played a significant role in the development of the energy crisis. Staff were also washed out in the middle link. In sum, this led to an increase in accidents. But besides the “human factor”, the accident rate was affected by the lack of a unified monitoring and repair system, as well as the tendering procedure. (Http://ukrenergy.dp.ua/2013/11/07/rossiya-energosictema-strany-rushitsya.ht)

          Even now we all feel the consequences of his reforms in the energy sector (especially after the accident at the Secondary School of Hydroelectric Power Station, and not only, mainly in winter) - "Chubais has nothing to do with it again" what
          and again the "unsinkable" Chubais:
          The Board of Directors of OJSC RUSNANO will consider the transfer of powers of the Chairman of the Board of OJSC RUSNANO to the Management Company of RUSNANO, in which Anatoly Chubais will take the post of Chairman of the Board. Accordingly, the authority of Anatoly Chubais as Chairman of the Board of RUSNANO OJSC will be terminated.

          Well, where is this "hairy hand" with which our government "reckons"? Somewhere in the 90s, he was "paid" by his owners for virtual labor (14 sheets) of privatization with very "good" money (naturally not in rubles). Now he "earns" for himself with the connivance of our "powers that be" request
    3. mirag2
      mirag2 24 January 2014 08: 39
      +5
      Yes, our economy is ruled by the students of Chubais, Kudrin, those who stood at the origins of the "market" in our economy.
      Those who wanted (and did) full privatization — what Bastrykin was talking about now — that as a result of privatization, it was not clear to anyone what belonged to foreign companies — and in the Leningrad Region — could not launch the defense industry until the military-industrial complex companies were returned under state control. ..
      Bank reorganization is taking place now - these are banks engaged in strenuous affairs, they are trying to close, should have been about 50 pcs. close-until so much happened.
      Where did the money carry cars to and from Dagestan?
      Without controlled banks, such operations cannot be carried out — such as VAT refunds for goods not delivered — there are a lot of such schemes and people create brainy, specially trained ones. To deal with them you need to have no less knowledge, experience + non-standard thinking — this is not a lesson- sorcerers to catch.
      1. Vadim-Skeptic
        Vadim-Skeptic 24 January 2014 08: 48
        +7
        Yes, you are an optimist ... Is there an economy in Russia?
    4. sub307
      sub307 24 January 2014 09: 06
      +6
      Yeah, there’s still a need to look: who and skem at the same time. Remember the decree number 1 of Putin as president (first term).
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    6. military
      military 24 January 2014 15: 45
      +2
      Quote: calocha
      Weakly believe that Putin is with them for one ...

      naturally, weak ... "for one" - it will not be enough ... not less than "for two" ... or "for three" ... laughing

      and what is the most "paradoxical" ... he brings these swindlers closer to his person, and when he brings them closer, he cherishes and cherishes ...
      1. kris
        24 January 2014 15: 49
        +1
        Quote: military
        naturally, weak ... "for one" - it will not be enough ... not less than "for two" ... or "for three" ...

        well said ! laughing
  4. Sultan
    Sultan 24 January 2014 08: 23
    +2
    How does this sly fox manage to stay with his still ???
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 24 January 2014 09: 23
      +6
      Yes, very simple. He is the main Kremlin laundress. bully
      As well as Abrashka, the holder of their common fund.
    2. Normal
      Normal 24 January 2014 09: 53
      +4
      Quote: Sultan
      How does this sly fox manage to stay with his still ???

      Quote: predator.3
      this "tsar" sits at the red-haired man on an iron kukan; Tolyan has some kind of killer compromising evidence on him and he cannot touch him, but on the contrary "pours" money, more precisely billions of Rusnano

      Quote: Normal
      When the future tsar turned things around in St. Petersburg, Chubais was cooler in the orang table, influence and position and could not know the mechanics and the results of those affairs.
  5. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 24 January 2014 08: 25
    +6
    The collapse of the industry, cut GossFunds - this is so ..., Trivia. Under the USSR, the perpetrators of the ball would "tower", and on business! And now, the tariffs are growing every year, so to speak - "Throw off citizens for a pretty penny, chubasik for another billion in your pocket." So, according to receipts, there are at least a dozen of such Chubays, and all of them have pockets - bottomless barrels.
  6. DPN
    DPN 24 January 2014 08: 38
    +5
    maybe the redhead has an agreement with Putin how, in his time, with Yeltsin, not to touch until the end of time. Former companions Sobchak. Or just a redhead is a reserve parachute ???.
    1. military
      military 24 January 2014 16: 00
      +1
      Quote: DPN
      or just a redhead is a reserve parachute ???.

      it is a "successor" carefully hidden from the people ... wink laughing
  7. drop
    drop 24 January 2014 08: 39
    +6
    Leaving the country in nanotechnology is not only a crime, it is wrecking and reducing the country's defense. There must be a court that confirms all this, Colonel Kvachkov will acquit. I have the honor.
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 24 January 2014 08: 41
    +9
    Rosnano - this is not a crime?
    Of course not!
    Ordinary betrayal.
    1. military
      military 24 January 2014 16: 03
      0
      Quote: retired
      Rosnano - this is not a crime?
      Of course not!
      Ordinary betrayal.

      actually, the Criminal Code is the same for everyone ... only theoretically ...
  9. PValery53
    PValery53 24 January 2014 08: 44
    +6
    Kvachkova was probably imprisoned for compassion for Chubais. Spared, after all ...
  10. PPL
    PPL 24 January 2014 08: 58
    +4
    Or maybe all business is his nature? lol
    Remember, there are examples in the literature:
    12 chairs
    Part 1. Stargorodsky lion
    Chapter 10. The Blue Thief
    The manager of the 2nd house of Starsobes was a shy thief. His whole being protested against thefts, but he could not steal. He stole, and he was ashamed. He stole constantly, constantly ashamed, and therefore his well-shaven cheeks always burned with a flush of embarrassment, modesty, shyness and embarrassment.

    laughing
    This is treated only in "closed type hospitals" and preferably with confiscation!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 24 January 2014 09: 06
      +4
      Quote: PPZ
      This is treated only in "closed type hospitals" and preferably with confiscation!

      We treat kleptomania with claustrophobia, or what? what Good clinic ...
  11. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 24 January 2014 09: 00
    +2
    Shoot everyone !!!!! And start with the most important thing, the one who put Chubais, Serdyukov, Bilalovs, Vekselberg and others in their place! Start with Putin!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 24 January 2014 12: 25
      0
      give Independence Square? Your screams smack of 91 years. Didn’t you jump there enthusiastically calling for Yeltsin?
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    3. St Petrov
      St Petrov 24 January 2014 12: 38
      -1
      Well, what are you minus, shot. Let's get started with Putin. Minusni post about him on the forum.

      Characters like you have always been amusing. Usually there should be another booze of cheap beer, under the argument about the execution of power and the complexity of life

      I wish you and your family a one-man return to the dashing ones. To remember and feel the past, what it means to live in the absence of corruption and total democracy of the 96-year model

      Fortunately, all the articles on the Internet and the media will tell you that finally, after the overthrow of Putin, everything was fine in the country and she got rid of corruption

      Indeed, corruption appeared exclusively under Putin and solely through his fault. Or how does your brain formulate it?
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  12. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 24 January 2014 09: 12
    +1
    He will not bite Chubais.
    1. military
      military 24 January 2014 16: 08
      0
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      He will not bite Chubais.

      that's right ... an affectionate "child" of two "mothers" sucks ... and very affectionate - ... laughing
  13. shelva
    shelva 24 January 2014 09: 12
    +2
    Of course, undermining the state’s economy is difficult to compare with a drunken stabbing in the kitchen - what kind of crime is this?
    Such people - not from this world - they consider money, and only stolen. Can they be interested in roads in Russia ?, they do not drive on them.
  14. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 24 January 2014 09: 18
    +3
    Of course, I can’t reliably say that Chubais is a thief, legally he most likely didn’t stoop to banal theft, and so for so long in these circles, but it’s quite obvious that this person is incompetent in managing anything, he doesn’t have a single successful project neither in business nor in government. He’s a boot that can easily hang noodles on his ears and behind him and do whatever you want, this is useful to authorities of any color, IMHO a sucker at such a level is worse than a thief, and Medvedev is the same.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 24 January 2014 09: 26
      +5
      Everything is quite the opposite. Uncle Tolya is just a very competent and experienced laundry organizer. Those. if you need to hide money (and not only), then always call Chubais. And since he has been doing this for many years and the whole elite is tied to this, he has compromising evidence at all.
      About the same position, although lower, is occupied by Serdyukov.

      If you touch such people, then all existing power will be downloaded. So this is impossible.
      I can assume that the GDP is preparing a multi-way combination to eliminate such people from the leadership, since now they are more likely to interfere with it than to help. But this is unlikely to happen quickly.
      1. mamba
        mamba 24 January 2014 10: 58
        +2
        Quote: Al_lexx
        If you touch such people, then all existing power will be downloaded.

        - Do not rock the boat! - said the GDP. Time, they say, now is this: - We have a lot of uncertainty and risk factors ahead, and in the conditions of a storm, a storm, a crisis it is very important that the whole team works harmoniously so that the boat does not turn over.
    2. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 24 January 2014 10: 29
      +6
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      he is likely to banal theft and did not fall

      That he is not a thief
      This is not the essence of deceit
      because the red-thief is global
      In the context of the state
    3. Tanysh
      Tanysh 24 January 2014 11: 01
      +1
      Sorry, but you are wrong. Chubais manager, even where, though
      in ... He is an ordinary agent of influence, which is used to the full extent by puppeteers.
    4. Garrin
      Garrin 24 January 2014 12: 02
      +3
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      Of course, I can’t reliably say that Chubais is a thief, legally he most likely didn’t stoop to banal theft, and so for so long in these circles, but it’s quite obvious that this person is incompetent in managing anything, he doesn’t have a single successful project neither in business nor in government.

    5. military
      military 24 January 2014 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      Of course, I can not reliably claim that Chubais is a thief ... He’s a felt boot which is easy to hang noodles on his ears and behind his back and he can do whatever you want, this is useful to authorities of any color, IMHO a sucker at such a level is worse than a thief, and Medvedev is same.

      well, well ... we will "summarize" ... Chubais is a goof ... Medvedev is a goof ... and directly behind their frail backs he wields the "shadow of Hamlet's father", doing business, robbing the country and ruining the economy ... and who is he with us, this "fighter of the invisible front"? ... repeat
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  16. samoletil18
    samoletil18 24 January 2014 09: 24
    +3
    "The mutual guarantee smears like soot."
  17. Neighbor
    Neighbor 24 January 2014 09: 29
    +3
    If the president allowed to steal, then this is no longer criminality.
  18. Alex66
    Alex66 24 January 2014 09: 32
    +4
    Or maybe everything is simply explained, only the explanation is not very tolerant, that Chubais, that the Lerner must have Semitic roots, and many others are in power, and for them the crime is only when you steal your own.
  19. Grenader
    Grenader 24 January 2014 09: 35
    +8
    Chubais in his repertoire since 1991 nothing has changed the appropriation of funds or property, the bankruptcy of firms and the saint's halo over his head - you can’t drink the craft.
    By the way, the classics warned us about such people: “It was the Jew Yankel. He already found himself here as a tenant and inn: he took a little of all the district gentry and gentry into his own hands, sucked out a little bit of almost all the money and strongly signified his Jewish presence in that country. three miles in all directions, not a single hut remained in order: everything fell and grew decrepit, everything was drunk, and only poverty and rags remained; as after a fire or a plague, the whole region had disappeared. And if Yankel had lived there for ten years, he probably would have eroded the entire province. "
    PS Wow, how cleverly the site works, the word f "and" d "from the quote is automatically replaced by a Jew wink
    N.V. Gogol "Taras Bulba"
  20. Combitor
    Combitor 24 January 2014 09: 38
    +14
    Companions.
  21. Mviktor
    Mviktor 24 January 2014 09: 45
    +6
    After that, Mikhail Lerner is formally transferred to the post of chairman of the board of directors,

    It's just that Chubai and Larner from the clan of social parasites both hate Russia, and the money went to the "hostel" of social parasites. This money is used to bribe government officials, buy government offices, and fund social parasite programs in Russia.
  22. iulai
    iulai 24 January 2014 09: 51
    +8
    Where Chubais appears - there is crime! It was Chubais who brought Sobchak's former deputy, then unemployed, to the drunkard Yeltsin. Now, in gratitude for this, Putin keeps the enemy of Russia, in grain places. Inventing entire industries specifically for him. I put an enemy of the people on the neck of the people! Time will pass, another president, not connected with the "family", will come, and if we live, we will still learn about these schemers!
  23. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 24 January 2014 09: 56
    +8
    When all these Rusnans were created, I expected from them at least nanosuits like in Crysis, but when I found out who would head the organization, I realized there was nothing to "catch", rather I myself will create my own nanosuit from scrap materials.
  24. vladeinord
    vladeinord 24 January 2014 10: 06
    +9
    Serdyukov, Chubais, a couple more names and what's next? Complete disappointment in GDP.
  25. Normal
    Normal 24 January 2014 10: 12
    +9
    Having received all this information, Rosnano makes a decision:
    Approve the project of expanding the production of the modifier "Unirem" and invest 1,9 billion rubles into it.
    Create a subsidiary of LLC “Unikom”, 35% of which belongs to Rosnano, and 65% - LLC GK “Novy Kauchuk”
    Appoint Mikhail Lerner as Director General of Unikom.

    It is unlikely that such a decision could be taken collectively. Most likely, the decision on such a strange appointment was directly in the power of the Director General of Rusnano - Anatoly Chubais.


    All those author. Why is it unlikely? It could even be. After all, the creation of RUSNANO and the appointment of Chubais, despite all its shameful reputation, was probably not done by the sole decision of the GDP. A well-coordinated and already experienced team worked here. The main goal of all the efforts and labors of this team, led by GDP and DAM (it does not matter which of them is the President and who is the Prime Minister in a given period of time) CUT the budget. Has this phrase been forgotten lately? And no one canceled the task. wink
    It’s just that behind all the recent events, behind the curtain of propaganda, public relations, all-news news, threats sucked from the finger, horror stories in the media and other informational white noise, we ceased to see unnoticed the meaning of existence our domineering elite.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 24 January 2014 12: 32
      -2
      A blind man will not see. Do not see the point, go to Somalia. This apex has long been gone there. Well, or to Libya
      1. military
        military 24 January 2014 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        Do not see the point, go to Somalia. This apex has long been gone there. Well, or to Libya

        why go somewhere? ... our "hoopoes" from the ruling elite will grow their own "Libya" ... what
  26. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 24 January 2014 10: 21
    +5
    The raven will not peck out the crow's eye! And as long as we are only moaning, this will happen! For the most ignorant, since 91, so much information has been posted on the internet that only a dumb idiot who can’t read between the lines can still appeal to someone and believe in authority! In general, this is a curse of the very essence of humanity, that is, according to Chinese mythology: Kill a dragon! You are next! It is still unknown who any of us would be if we were to get our hands on the power vertical! The temptation is very great, if you do not have a hard character and a tenacious mind!
  27. aksai61
    aksai61 24 January 2014 10: 27
    +4
    YES! The Tolyans did not make a fortune! angry I’m ashamed of being ashamed! crying I don’t even want to introduce myself to people! lol
    Here, you say - "My name is Anatoly." And then there and then a testing gaze like "Aha, we sign some Chubais (Serdyukovs)!" repeat
    Although I certainly exaggerate! Each person makes his own name! But the sediment ....
    And about the article ... So the collapse of the country's energy system is also not criminality ... And that’s it! Brothers Tolyany negative
    1. mamba
      mamba 24 January 2014 11: 21
      0
      Quote: aksai61
      "My name is Anatoliy."

      Tolya! Yesterday, January 23, you and other Anatolievs had name days. Congratulations! Have you marked them? If you forgot or did not know, then do not miss the following:
      - in February - 07, 19;
      - in May - 06;
      - in July - 16, 19;
      - in August - 06, 11, 12;
      - in September - 15;
      - in November - 03, 13, 19;
      - in December - 03, 23.
      I think that Chubais and Serdyukov do not miss these dates. Have you already taken care of vodka? drinks
  28. Orakyl
    Orakyl 24 January 2014 10: 48
    +2
    This is certainly not criminality, this is betrayal. In relation to this individual, the decision has been made a long time ago, but since he is in the jurisdiction of the Anglo-Saxons, radical measures at this stage can not be expected. While we tick off, on the basis of subversive activities, that would then put one cross ....
  29. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 24 January 2014 11: 13
    +2
    It’s good that O.I. Bender did not survive to this day, otherwise he would die of envy. But his work lives and thrives.
  30. Stinger
    Stinger 24 January 2014 11: 14
    +1
    EBN looked at the root: This is Chubais to blame for everything. All the rest are clean. Russian paradox, nano powders are made in Tomsk in addition to Chubais.
  31. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 24 January 2014 11: 37
    +1
    Quote: mamba
    Quote: Al_lexx
    If you touch such people, then all existing power will be downloaded.

    - Do not rock the boat! - said the GDP. Time, they say, now is this: - We have a lot of uncertainty and risk factors ahead, and in the conditions of a storm, a storm, a crisis it is very important that the whole team works harmoniously so that the boat does not turn over.

    You are saying obvious things. Let's talk about the obvious.
    In no case do I protect the GDP, but I do not see anyone who could replace it today. Rather, I see someone, but now it is impossible, for a number of reasons that deserve separate consideration. If you just stupidly drive a wave of GDP, then we get what is happening now in Kiev. Do you need it?
    The pepper is clear that Putin is never white or fluffy. But he is undoubtedly a strong politician and recognized world authority. This is not to take away from him. Still the same manager, instead of a young lover of yaphone, and much would have gone better. But I'm afraid that for the time being this will not be allowed by the international khanate. And partly the GDP itself, for obvious reasons, which also deserves a separate discussion and which, under current laws, is punishable by law.
    So clearer? smile
  32. Navy7981
    Navy7981 24 January 2014 11: 48
    +1
    I think that everything, these guys will return a hundredfold. Always returns! Or they themselves, or children, or grandchildren, but they will not be happy no matter how much they portray this happiness. As the saying goes, "what you sow is what you reap."

    Not so long ago I talked with a very, very rich man, I don’t know that he was suddenly drawn to frankness, but I would not want to be in his place. The patient himself, the "doctors" pulled out money not measuredly, what we have, what in Europe, and the result is funny, but painful. The third wife - s-ka, sleeps with anyone (for some reason young), the son is a scumbag, and a drug addict. The daughter, except for the dough, cannot and does not know how to think about anything. And so it all started well! The money went! Cars, apartments, a house for 600 microvolts, a house in France, a house in the USA + apartments in London and New York, accounts and "friends" who have nothing personal, only business, etc. and so on, but you don't want to live, it's all by inertia, well, what the hell is all this necessary?
    So you think, is it worth it !!! put your life on the line? No, I'm not against good security, not against cars and apartments, but I absolutely don't want my children to remember me only when they need something! I don’t want those whom I consider friends to look into my pocket, trying to figure out “to be friends” or it’s time to push me out of the way, that would not interfere, and that SUCH melancholy and inner despair would visit me !!!

    I know that there are those who did not step over themselves, etching everything human and really talented in business, satisfied with what they did and with life, but such, as a rule, were not visible. They just work ...
  33. Garrin
    Garrin 24 January 2014 11: 56
    +6
    “They themselves point to losses of 2,5 billion rubles. The money, of course, is rather big ... There are punctures, failures, but this is not criminality, ”the president said.

    -And for Serdyukov, not the 37th year.
    -And in preparation for the Olympics - theft was not detected.
    The trend, however.
  34. homosum20
    homosum20 24 January 2014 13: 35
    +1
    At the same time, every riffraff for a bribe of one million is planted for 10 years with the hype and fanfare of the victory of civil society and justice.
  35. kimanas
    kimanas 24 January 2014 13: 52
    0
    He is not red, but simply golden!
  36. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 24 January 2014 14: 22
    0
    Quote: Al_lexx
    Yes, very simple. He’s the main Kremlin laundress

    A Rusnano- nanostiral car wassat
  37. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 24 January 2014 14: 46
    0
    If nano. Mega and giga !!! Yes, and not one.
  38. vvp2412
    vvp2412 24 January 2014 15: 26
    -1
    Personally, my opinion is that Putin would be happy to smudge this scum. But who prevents him, and does not give, as with Perdyukov!
    We cannot know all the undercover cases.
    But nothing else remains.
    There is no logic of action - removed Perdyukov because of his theft, but did not plant! Why? There is a reason, and it is not because Putin does not want this. I wouldn’t like it, I wouldn’t remove it. And I would call him, like Medved - an effective manager!

    The question is - who does not allow to smear all the red, humpback, Perdyukov, Onalny, and other abomination!
    More precisely, who - this is understandable - the United States, but what they press Putin on is the question!
  39. military
    military 24 January 2014 15: 31
    +2
    What makes it possible for the head of Rusnano to behave so frivolously and make such decisions without regard to society and law enforcement? Maybe patronage from the president?

    this is not "protection" ... this is protection ...
    After all, if Putin said that this is not criminality, it means not criminality. And it does not matter what the facts from the activities of the state corporation are talking about.

    the boy said - the boy did ...

    and by the way...
    Perhaps Anatoly Chubais in this post did not need a scientist who developed a promising technology. Also, he did not need a man who knew how to establish production and marketing. In place of the head of Unikom, there was a person who knows how to take loans, re-register property and bankrupt the companies under whose activity these loans were raised.

    But who and why was "needed" as the head of a similar "Nano" to Putin himself? ... bully and why the choice of the Most Serene One fell on the candidacy of this "red-haired, honest, handsome"? ...
  40. oper66
    oper66 24 January 2014 15: 55
    +1
    Certainly not criminality !!!! criminality is theft or robbery and they do not steal and do not rob !!! They are "masters" and simply take from themselves, but we are the people, thieves and extra mouths are dependents for them !!! angry we want a salary and pensions, education with medicine ... well, no, we have CONSCIENCES spying on the owners
  41. ABV
    ABV 24 January 2014 20: 48
    +1
    How much can you already: Chubais, Chubais - this ????
    Chubais is a man of the system created in the late 80's and early. 90s. he is not the MAIN AND ONLY DEMON of all times and peoples .... living people stand behind him. ONE in the field is not a warrior (Russian proverb)! It is necessary to consider the problem as a whole and shoot the whole gop-company at once. like Don Corleon in the "godfather" ...
  42. Power
    Power 24 January 2014 23: 10
    0
    In America, Chubais was given bi two life sentences, he would have sat writing books, or would have given fifty years for cooperation with the authorities. But we have these ghouls, the authorities themselves, and this is how we live.