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About the future of Euromaidan put in a word

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About the future of Euromaidan put in a word

Only the lazy does not comment on the situation in Ukraine. Here Klitschko said ... so the Nazis staged ... and here is the "sacred sacrifice." What is going on and what it will pour out?


Options - a great many. But to really assess the situation, you just need to understand three things:

1. Parties concerned.
2. Strategic and tactical goals of the parties.
3. Whose side is the initiative.

Everything is clear with the parties: the Ukrainian opposition is a united front with the financial and moral support of the EU and the US against the current government.
The objectives of the EU and the United States have been voiced by Z. Brzezinski: to take Ukraine out of Russia's sphere of influence. Work in this direction was still under the Russian Empire, and the last quarter of a century was just some kind of holiday for all Russophobes, Atlanticists, gay integrators, neo-fascists, and so on.

As for the Ukrainian opposition, when EM (Euromaidan) started, it had strategic goals: to show strength, score more points for the upcoming elections. Well, the tactical goal is that all this “happiness” is not accelerated as long as possible, for which they began to build barricades.

The government of Yanukovych either blundered frankly, or, on the contrary, calculated everything in advance. And this is the main question on which the future actions of the Ukrainian authorities directly depend. And there is no unequivocal answer to this question, and there will not be. After all, inaction is also an action. And it can be action conscious, purposeful.

The initiative was at the beginning of the opposition. And success was. But all this turned out to be so much, and the will is so little that they could not take advantage of all the opportunities, lost the initiative, and now they themselves would be happy to finish it all and live normally, but it is too late. Everything has gone too far. Yes, and there is no command.

Now I eat like a cancer cell, which is not allowed to grow. She will bite, but more will devour herself, sitting in their barricades in a cage. If the opposition does not have enough intelligence and courage together, as it was at the beginning, to finish EM by itself, then the collapse of the united opposition, with all the consequences, is inevitable - there will not be a single candidate (Klitschko) in the presidential election. The Nazis will further discredit the opposition as a whole.

In addition, Ukraine has adopted laws toughening responsibility for unrest, and allowing for the removal of parliamentary immunity. Not immediately, but they will begin to work. And they will work against the opposition.

So now the strategic goal of the opposition should be the end of the EM, and the tactical one is the preservation of unity and person. Instead, we are seeing escalation, sacrifices, for the sponsors of the EM seem to be even more stupid than the performers and are not able to take into account the change of the situation and maneuver. Such a heavy, uncompromising and frankly narrow-minded style is characteristic of all the revolutions of the last decade. And always these revolutions, riots and pogroms had some defenders in the EU and the USA.

In general, the experience of all velvet, color and other "soft" revolutions teaches that the strength of the opposition is inversely proportional to the strength of the government. How weak and inventive is the opposition, a strong and resolute government will win. The only question is tactics. Of course, provided that the government is guaranteed to be protected from intervention by the armed forces and allies.

This is due to one specific point - all modern upheavals occur in the capital. On camera, in public, in the city center. This is the pain point of any state. This is the power of protest - it is possible to overthrow the government with small forces if it gives up the slack. This is also a weakness - a handful of radicals seize the square and lock themselves in barricades. Question: what's next? Nothing. Life goes on behind the barricades. The revolution occurs only in the heads of the participants and on television screens. Revolution, protest, coup - is primarily a psychological event. It should happen in the minds of the most active and influential citizens of the state and only then can it turn out de facto.

And now about the future of EM.

It is possible to disperse from day to day, as well as the gradual attenuation of the protest over a long time. It is impossible only to stop the opposition by the initiative of the opposition for the reasons mentioned above.

But most importantly, given the inevitable radicalization, the EM will continue to lead Ukraine away from Europe and split it into pieces. If Maidan was the only problem in Ukraine, this would not have happened, but there are still countless problems of others. In the end, it is strange that Ukraine is still a single state. So to mock the people and the country, to turn brain, management, culture, all aspects of life and part of the state into a mess - you need to be able and need to try. And apparently, they can and try ...
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  1. saag
    saag 24 January 2014 08: 53
    +1
    like Yanukovych promised to repeal laws from January 16
    1. makarov
      makarov 24 January 2014 08: 58
      +8
      And already the slogans are different. Instead of "give hdeba", they chant "down with the king."
      1. 222222
        222222 24 January 2014 11: 23
        +10
        Oh, what slogans Yusch had in 2004. Only one thing is worth: "To the bandits - prison" .... Ay, Slogans ... and it remained "Qi's hands did not steal anything .."
        1. wow
          wow 24 January 2014 16: 09
          +6
          Nah! The slogans of all the existing and former (in history) authorities are Ukraine one - geben-zi world bitte HALYAVA and it does not matter where it comes from, from the East or from the West! Well, I really want this very freebie!
          1. Rink
            Rink 24 January 2014 17: 03
            +15
            Civilians in a peaceful capital.
            Peaceful helmets. Peaceful faces.
            Behave peacefully. Peacefully on strike.
            They fight and protest peacefully.
            Those who are not peaceful have no place here.
            Peaceful slogans of peaceful protests.
            Peacefully kick peaceful feet
            Those who fell under them on the road.
            Everything is very peaceful, white and fluffy.
            Peaceful processions of peaceful fascists.
            Peaceful torches. Peaceful Bandera.
            In Kiev, the world - without account and measure.
            Morning on a foggy and dark night
            Peaceful Maidan streams.
            He drinks tea peacefully. Peacefully requires cheese
            Coffee, lemons, harvesting sort.
            Every Friday in peace in the evening
            Reasons are looking for a peaceful evening ...
            Peaceful "children" in black terror.
            Peace chains for a peaceful "showdown".
            Peaceful hatred just for passers-by
            Yes, and hatred of drivers, too.
            All who are beyond the borders of the Maidan riot -
            "Carcasses", "aunts", "gang" and "junta".
            You thought, "Peace" is a violin singing,
            The sun, hugs, flowers and smiles?
            No matter how! The world is now with a fist
            He breathes with malice and lies, he whistles.
            Peace Maidan, it does not sow, does not plow -
            Sings peacefully. Beats peacefully. Dancing peacefully.
            Peacefully blocks. Do not you agree?
            So, "auntie" you! So dangerous!
            ... Peace Maidan got into holes
            A once good word - PEACE!
            1. polly
              polly 24 January 2014 18: 04
              +8
              Mary Harf, spokeswoman for the U.S. Department of State, announced that sanctions against Ukraine were being considered and stated: “We condemn violence, including by extreme right-wing groups of citizens. At the same time, we understand that this is only a small part of the protesters, but in general the protest is peaceful character. "
              http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/833824#ixzz2r0fmEFOH
              Well, what can I say? Peace and your home, gentlemen!
            2. makarov
              makarov 24 January 2014 20: 18
              +11
              I'm sorry this blue sky
              sorry for the earth and life splinters;
              I'm scared that well-fed pigs
              worse than hungry wolves.
              И.Г.
            3. sanitarlesa
              sanitarlesa 24 January 2014 20: 41
              +1
              excellent poems and most importantly in the topic ... respect
            4. rolik2
              rolik2 24 January 2014 23: 10
              +8
              Future Maidan?
          2. 222222
            222222 24 January 2014 22: 09
            +3
            ё-mine (2) UA Today, 16:09 ↑
            "Nope! The slogans of all the existing and former (in history) authorities of the Ukraine are the same - geben zi world bitte FREEBIE" ... I. I ... egg. blah ... freebie pliz ..
            .. "Say a word about the future of Euromaidan .." .. it is cool to say .. future Euromaidans throughout Europe .. in the spring and summer, it gets warmer .. Germany. France .. If Europe does not come to its senses .... "Do not dig another hole, you will get into it yourself .." ... Or do they have no Nazis?
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 24 January 2014 12: 19
        +13
        Quote: makarov
        And already the slogans are different. Instead of "give hdeba", they chant "down with the king."

        Dear colleague, everything begins to see me in a darker light.
        "Fas!" The foreign regional committee seems to have given - the seizures of the regional administrations have gone.
        Further, the Libyan scenario is likely:
        - aggravation by means of artificial escalation - shooting by unknown persons, one or the other.
        - Robberies, violence - marginalized.
        - Power outage, as a result - water, heat.
        Further west cries out for a humanitarian catastrophe in certain areas.
        Finally, the "avengers" will tear the main pipes ...
        And "hello to you!" - NATO invasion to restore energy supplies to their cooling kitchens ...
        Russia and VVP are tied by hand "Sochi-2014" at least until mid-March, taking into account the Paralympic ...

        Please refute the arguments ...
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 24 January 2014 12: 37
          0
          ...mother! already calls have gone: "Galicians petition asking to send UN troops"
          “We, the people of the democratic world, cannot remain aloof from what is happening in Ukraine. We ask the US authorities to help Ukraine. In just two months, the Ukrainian government moved from so-called democracy to authoritarianism, ignoring millions of people on the streets of Kiev. According to the latest news, at least 5 people were killed in clashes between law enforcement officers and demonstrators. The country adopts ridiculous and outrageous laws that restrict the rights of citizens of Ukraine. The situation is getting worse. Civil war can begin at any time. We ask to introduce 5 of thousands of UN troops to Ukraine in order to stop the mass bloodshed and ensure peace and justice in Ukraine. ”


          http://politikus.ru/events/11449-galichane-peticiey-prosyat-vvesti-voyska-oon.ht
          ml
          1. 31231
            31231 24 January 2014 21: 35
            0
            Only 5 thousand UN fighters are asking? Bender with arithmetic is tight. This tilka on the Maidan is enough.
        2. Cherdak
          Cherdak 24 January 2014 15: 03
          +5
          Quote: Rus2012
          Please refute the arguments ...
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          2. rolik2
            rolik2 24 January 2014 23: 32
            0
            Quote: Cherdak
            Please refute the arguments ...

            A little different
        3. Russ69
          Russ69 24 January 2014 16: 27
          +2
          Quote: Rus2012
          Russia and VVP are tied by hand "Sochi-2014" at least until mid-March, taking into account the Paralympic ...

          If, all this happens, OI by that time, will already end ...
          1. bask
            bask 24 January 2014 21: 52
            +2
            Quote: Russ69
            If, all this happens, OI by that time, will already end ...

            Everything is just beginning. Yanukovych as a hunchback set up his fighters, Golden Eagle, and he is hiding somewhere.

        4. 31231
          31231 24 January 2014 21: 33
          +8
          Russia and VVP are tied by hand "Sochi-2014" at least until mid-March, taking into account the Paralympic ...

          Well, NATO never quickly attacks. He likes well and takes a long time to prepare. Ukraine, not Iraq and Serbia, can not be broken by a month of bombing. Yes, and two brothers near Ukraine, we will help both people and weapons.
          And in general to offend Ukraine, it’s also to offend Belarus and Russia.
          1. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 21: 37
            +5
            Well, NATO never quickly attacks. He likes well and takes a long time to prepare. Ukraine, not Iraq and Serbia, can not be broken by a month of bombing. Yes, and two brothers near Ukraine, we will help both people and weapons.
            NATO will not bomb Ukraine, there are no opportunities for this, they don’t need it. But they will arrange a civil war.
        5. makarov
          makarov 25 January 2014 03: 45
          +1
          Please refute the arguments ..

          Yes easy, and no problem !!
          If a famous prisoner becomes the head, then decentralization will not take place. GDP understands this perfectly, but for some reason is silent .....
          1. Rus2012
            Rus2012 25 January 2014 11: 22
            0
            Quote: makarov
            Yes, easy, and no problem !! If a well-known prisoner becomes the head, then decentralization will not take place. GDP understands this perfectly, but for some reason is silent .....

            ... this is the last option IMHO!
            Extremely extreme ...
      3. svp67
        svp67 24 January 2014 21: 16
        +3
        "The only thing that is needed for the triumph of Evil is that good people do nothing ..." Edmund Burke
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 24 January 2014 09: 02
      +8
      Can't be canceled .. you have to go all the way since I’ve started (another question is that they can only be used selectively) for now .. This particular mutiny is going on in the best traditions of "controlled house" as everything is standard and familiar ..
      1. artifox
        artifox 24 January 2014 09: 11
        +21
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Can't be canceled .. you have to go all the way since I’ve started (another question is that they can only be used selectively) for now .. This particular mutiny is going on in the best traditions of "controlled house" as everything is standard and familiar ..

        It is necessary to overclock and hard. Enough to stand on ceremony with them. This has already simply crossed all the boundaries. Most of all I feel sorry for the fighters of the "Golden Eagle", who were ordered not to answer ... Allow to answer and that's it. History will write off the rest.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 24 January 2014 09: 25
          +6
          Quote: artifox
          It is necessary to disperse and hard. Enough ceremony with them.


          Orange revolutions are based on the power used by the authorities to work against them. Like here they are so peaceful with flowers and cookies for the policemen, and they beat us on the orders of the "Tsar".
          But in the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the cops didn’t beat them, and now their strength is working against themselves, since they need entertainment and sacredness, so they lose their nerves and discredit themselves.
          You can apply a hard Chinese script, but for this Yanyk does not have eggs, he is Europointegrated ....

          Quote: artifox
          This has already simply crossed all the boundaries. Most of all I feel sorry for the Berkut fighters, who were ordered not to respond ...

          Ukraine is more and more like the Wild West ... only cold, snow and Nazis.
          1. artifox
            artifox 24 January 2014 10: 32
            +6
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Ukraine is more and more like the Wild West ... only cold, snow and Nazis.

            I really do not want it to become similar to Yugoslavia, Serbia, Libya, Egypt, etc. I don’t feel like it at all ...
            1. Cherdak
              Cherdak 24 January 2014 15: 06
              +7
              Quote: artifox
              I don’t feel like it at all ...
          2. Genry
            Genry 24 January 2014 15: 13
            +6
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Orange revolutions are based on the fact that the power used by power works against neither

            This is if the opposition uses "soft power".
            Now they have gone beyond this framework, lost their grasp due to lack of support, (there is no cannon fodder) and the authorities are now untied.

            The authorities need to endure a certain period so that more people start to get angry with the opposition and demonstrate its "peaceful nature" (to remember it before the 2015 election). At this time, a covert war is going on, to knock out props from each other.
            Here, power is winning.
            Collects personal information on militants.
            Through negotiations, she puts opposition leaders (essentially pawns disguising kings) in the position of fools. If you listen to them, then everyone carries his own nonsense, and people doubt where the truth is.

            Now the opposition has drunk, has eaten another handout from the West
            and forced to wait until the next. But for the past stage it is necessary to report, so they figured out that the whole Grushevsky street is now theirs (although 200 meters were captured, to the place where it is more convenient for Berkut to stand). They sawed the money, but they didn’t accomplish the task of capturing the government block.
            1. SHILO
              SHILO 24 January 2014 15: 55
              +8
              Quote: Genry
              The authorities need to endure a certain period so that more people start to get angry with the opposition and demonstrate its "peaceful nature" (to remember it before the 2015 election).


              Man, I thought so too. But! However, do not forget that such games are good to play when you have 63.4% of the vote of the People. Yanyk is not GDP. They will not follow him, and this Ono understands very well. The scribe is ukryn!
          3. skullcap
            skullcap 24 January 2014 15: 44
            +6
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            You can apply a hard Chinese script, but for this Yanyk does not have eggs, he is Europointegrated ....


            We must act according to democratic rules.
            First publish the American army instructions for action in suppressing the insurgency.
            It was already printed somehow, but I did not save it. The general meaning is that we must act decisively and mercilessly. Open fire to defeat primarily by the organizers of the rebellion and their active assistants. Surely the special services have its full text.
            Then, to give the order to the army’s 24 clock today, in order to maintain a democratically elected government, act according to the instructions of the most democratic country in the world. In this case, not a single Western European mongrel will have the moral right to yelp.
            Well, as promised - the word must be kept - to issue combat cartridges to the troops and to send troops into the dying Kiev in 24.00. And save the city and the people from self-destruction.
          4. skullcap
            skullcap 24 January 2014 15: 44
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            You can apply a hard Chinese script, but for this Yanyk does not have eggs, he is Europointegrated ....


            We must act according to democratic rules.
            First publish the American army instructions for action in suppressing the insurgency.
            It was already printed somehow, but I did not save it. The general meaning is that we must act decisively and mercilessly. Open fire to defeat primarily by the organizers of the rebellion and their active assistants. Surely the special services have its full text.
            Then, to give the order to the army’s 24 clock today, in order to maintain a democratically elected government, act according to the instructions of the most democratic country in the world. In this case, not a single Western European mongrel will have the moral right to yelp.
            Well, as promised - the word must be kept - to issue combat cartridges to the troops and to send troops into the dying Kiev in 24.00. And save the city and the people from self-destruction.
            1. Russ69
              Russ69 24 January 2014 16: 33
              +2
              Quote: kosopuz
              Then give the order from 24 hours today of the army

              And the army is ready for this ...
              Yanek, support is not normal. He managed to throw and those who were, for him in the east, Promising a bunch of everything before the election, and now the EU supporters.
              1. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 24 January 2014 16: 39
                +16
                In general, the best thing that Ukraine has now is the guys from Berkut who are worthy of their ancestors ...
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 19: 11
                  +13
                  Quote: Novel 1977
                  In general, the best thing that Ukraine has now is the guys from Berkut who are worthy of their ancestors ...

                  Judging by the fact that Carlsson has disappeared from sight, now he is not up to tyrnet ...
                  I wish him good luck.
                  And Akim - good luck. He, too, was going to the Anti-Maidan.
                  1. 31231
                    31231 24 January 2014 21: 22
                    +6
                    And Akim - good luck. He, too, was going to the Anti-Maidan.


                    Akim went to AntiMaydan? I'm glad that such an adult has seen his sight.
                2. shevron
                  shevron 26 January 2014 18: 37
                  0
                  If the soldiers of the Red Army would scoff at the peaceful civilian population of Germany, as "BERKUT" does with random passers-by and journalists, they would hardly be held in high esteem
        2. Orakyl
          Orakyl 24 January 2014 11: 04
          +2
          not allowed! they are just waiting for this! it's like adding fuel to a fire. here it’s not necessary to wave a saber, but to think with your head!
        3. bif
          bif 24 January 2014 11: 23
          +5
          Quote: artifox
          It is necessary to overclock and hard. Enough to stand on ceremony with them. This has already simply crossed all the boundaries. Most of all I feel sorry for the fighters of the "Golden Eagle", who were ordered not to answer ... Allow to answer and that's it. History will write off the rest.

          “Now there are three main scenarios for the development of the situation. Coup in one form or another (the overthrow of Yanukovych, early elections), rout of the opposition и dual power... "http://vz.ru/politics/2014/1/23/669336.html
          Good analysis of what is happening and prospects. The choice is obtained from the 3's evils of the smallest. The author is inclined to The defeat of the opposition: "If Viktor Yanukovych decides to use force to suppress the opposition, then he will have to go all the way to win the 2015 elections by any means. Arrests of opposition leaders lead to sanctions against Ukraine from the West, accelerating Kiev's movement towards integration with the Customs Union. Western part" Ukraine does not recognize the legitimacy of the president, an extremely negative attitude towards him in Kiev ... And no matter how difficult and unlikely the third scenario is (and it is the most difficult not only for Ukraine, but also for Moscow, because it requires a very wise and subtle politics and complicates our geopolitical positions), of the possible it is, of course, the best for Russia and the entire large Russian people, including because it gives a little more time to work and allows the most peaceful reunification with most of Ukraine. to be a goal higher than the unity of your own people? "
          If we turn to history, then it’s worth remembering Events at Tiananmen 1989 Yearafter which not a single Western one climbed into the internal affairs of China.
        4. AVV
          AVV 24 January 2014 12: 33
          +5
          If Yanukovych, like Misha Gorbachev, will not take harsh measures, then others will take them, including him !!! America during the Olympics will bring two of its ships into the Black Sea, including to blackmail the Ukrainian government !!!
        5. Sergey_K
          Sergey_K 24 January 2014 12: 55
          +1
          Do not overclock. That is the problem.
        6. skullcap
          skullcap 24 January 2014 13: 49
          +4
          Quote: artifox
          It is necessary to overclock and hard. Enough to stand on ceremony with them. This has already simply crossed all the boundaries. Most of all I feel sorry for the fighters of the "Golden Eagle", who were ordered not to answer ... Allow to answer and that's it. History will write off the rest

          Meanwhile, foreign supporters of democracy and pederasty condemn the Ukrainian authorities precisely because of too cruel treatment of peaceful demonstrators.
          It is interesting: what will they carry when these "peaceful demonstrators", enraged by the insufficient help of their masters, start throwing bottles with incendiary liquid at their embassies? Any different Americans and Eurogeans?
          That will be an interesting situation ..
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      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 10: 49
        0
        Quote: MIKHAN
        You can’t cancel .. you need to go to the end since I took

        And what remains for him except how to cancel. The law has been passed, everyone has beaten these new laws. Now Yanukovych will save them.
      3. alex13-61
        alex13-61 24 January 2014 12: 07
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Can't be canceled .. you have to go all the way since I’ve started (another question is that they can only be used selectively) for now .. This particular mutiny is going on in the best traditions of "controlled house" as everything is standard and familiar ..

        The same opinion ... As for the further development of events, I recommend everyone to familiarize themselves with Gleb Bobrov's book "The Age of the Dead" - well, very plausible ... Available in audio format, on almost any torrent tracker. (On EX.UA, which is so annoying Washington, including ...)
      4. Cherdak
        Cherdak 24 January 2014 15: 04
        +4
        Quote: MIKHAN
        the mutiny is in the best traditions of "controlled chaos"
        1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
          Yuri Sev Caucasus 24 January 2014 21: 32
          +1
          it is far from accidental that the author is the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKlE4sI-ui0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    3. Civil
      Civil 24 January 2014 09: 39
      +3
      The collapse of Ukraine does not pass.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 24 January 2014 09: 53
        +1
        he was inevitable before, but for some reason they decided to speed up this process
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 24 January 2014 09: 57
        +6
        Quote: Civil
        The collapse of Ukraine does not pass.

        Without outside intervention is unlikely. And Russia may not allow such an intervention. If Yanukovych asks for help, then the section is generally unbelievable.
      3. artifox
        artifox 24 January 2014 10: 33
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        The collapse of Ukraine does not pass.

        There are two options - either collapse or split. The third is unlikely - everything has gone too far ...
        1. avt
          avt 24 January 2014 11: 24
          +5
          Quote: artifox
          There are two options - either collapse or split

          If the state collapses as a single country’s governance system with the elimination of legitimate governing bodies in the form of government, parliament, punitive bodies and the army, with the elimination of a not constitutional, and therefore illegal way, but this is really happening before our eyes slowly but surely. The further territorial split is simply inevitable, which is exactly what raguli demonstrate in the West in recent days.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 11: 49
            +12
            Quote: avt
            If the state collapses as a single country’s governance system with the elimination of legitimate governing bodies in the form of government, parliament, punitive bodies and the army, with the elimination of a not constitutional, and therefore illegal way, but this is really happening before our eyes slowly but surely. Then a territorial split is simply inevitable

            And there is...
            And they will not give up power back without a fight and a fight.
            And they will even demand more.
            This is the Ukrainian Chechnya of 1996 - "We are not with you, but at your expense".
    4. Kolya
      Kolya 24 January 2014 10: 22
      +6
      Quote: saag
      like Yanukovych promised to repeal laws from January 16

      he also promised a rapprochement with Russia even before the election, then he was drawn to the Euro, then the Euro threw him the same way he threw the Russians in Ukraine, and as a result he will soon be raised by pitchfork.
    5. Egoza
      Egoza 24 January 2014 10: 58
      +1
      Quote: saag
      like Yanukovych promised to repeal laws from January 16

      This is what the oppa says in order to reassure "theirs" that they will all receive amnesty. And according to other sources, the laws will be re-voted on BP. Let's see who takes it. If only the oppa really behaves normally at the meeting!
      1. Net
        Net 24 January 2014 12: 42
        +2
        And I thought at BP they would remove the immunity from the trinity of Maydaun leaders and arrest them for rebellion and calls for the overthrow of state power.
    6. Rink
      Rink 24 January 2014 12: 17
      +18
      Quote: saag
      like Yanukovych promised to repeal laws from January 16

      Yanukovych is under constant pressure: the State Department and the whole of Europe under pressure, their own oligarchs, Western Nazis, Bandera and simple dolbo ... in short, the maydauns are brainless.
      In addition, there is no full confidence in the loyalty and combat effectiveness of the army, internal troops and police. Golden eagle, of course, persistent guys. Real men! But there are not so many of them, but a simple police ... :(

      To avoid any doubts, they are not in charge of the "three-member" - Coward, Goonies and Experienced. These are simple clowns, puppets. They are told what they do. The field commanders, who took courses in "Techcom" in the summer at the American Embassy in Kiev, are in charge of all the events. And they report directly to the US Embassy in Ukraine - THERE is the CENTER for coordination and decision-making. I am afraid that in the near future the Yankees will start buying officials and generals and ordinary fighters with bribes so that they go over to the side of the Maydauns. This is how they acted everywhere, both in Iraq and in Syria.

      Yanukovych now needs even just moral support, so that he perk up, and the police understand that they will not be abandoned in the most difficult moment.

      This fire, which is being fanned in Ukraine now, will not go out on its own in any case, America will not give it, this is not part of its goal. This is revenge for the lost situation in Syria, for all the "humiliation" of the 2013 States. The Yankees took the bit and decided to go on the offensive.
      And here is what I will say ...
      This is a rehearsal. It will turn out in Ukraine, - it will blaze in Belarus and Central Asia.

      For example, read the news? http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/01/23/v-rezultate-bombardirovki-v-pakistane-ubity


      -nemcy-i-uzbeki-25350.html

      It seems that Pakistan is somewhere far away ...
      But note: 33 Uzbeks and 3 Germans. What did they do there ?! in my opinion, it was like this: Uzbeks — three departments of 10 people each with three branch commanders and three German instructors. And why were the Germans preparing Uzbeks in a camp in Pakistan?

      Guys, the war is ALREADY in full swing! Subversive, informational, proxy war is a new generation war. All "opposition" must be crushed in the bud, according to the laws of wartime. Now the fifth column inside the country is more dangerous than the regular NATO army.

      And the media !!!! The cry of the soul is simple! Under state control, it is urgent to take ALL the media, all Benedict and other boosters - to the shkonki. It’s the horror that they do, it’s the most effective tool to suppress the consciousness of the victim people. The people they are surrounded by simply do not understand what they are doing.
    7. SHILO
      SHILO 24 January 2014 16: 13
      +3
      Quote: saag
      [B]In the end, it is strange that Ukraine is still a single state. [/ B]



      Keyword: "STRANGE". But! But I think it will be corrected in the near future.
    8. starshina78
      starshina78 24 January 2014 19: 47
      +4
      On the contrary, we must adopt even more stringent laws! This infection "Euromaidan" has spread throughout the West of Ukraine, everywhere it is being seized by regional administrations, everything is being destroyed. All this is happening in the West, while everything is fine in the East, that is, this is the division of Ukraine. If it goes on like this, then the outcome is quite possible when, instead of one Ukraine, there will be two Ukraine and the Crimea.
      1. Rink
        Rink 24 January 2014 20: 52
        +5
        Quote: starshina78
        ... then such an outcome is quite possible when instead of one Ukraine two Ukraine and Crimea appear


        And something seems to me that soon there will be a second Syria, and then another Kosovo and another Serbia. If this happens, then wait for the second Maidan to appear - on Bolotnaya, in Moscow.

        PS By the way, who knows what is the historical name of the area where Nezalezhnosti Square with the Maydaun occupiers is now located in Kiev? "Goat bog". These are interesting parallels, "Goat Swamp" - "Swamp".
        Campaign, this evil spirits in the swamps.
      2. shevron
        shevron 26 January 2014 19: 03
        0
        What made the government a hundred would not have happened - nothing. Only care about your skin ...
  2. Name
    Name 24 January 2014 08: 59
    +7
    ... mock people and the country, turn into brains the brains, management, culture, all aspects of life and parts of the stateTherefore, you don’t need to study, for this you need only INACTIVE,that Yanukovych has been doing all the last time. hi
  3. major071
    major071 24 January 2014 09: 01
    +9
    The third article in the morning about Ukraine.
    Possible acceleration from day to day, and the gradual attenuation of the protest over a long time.

    I would like to believe, but judging by the latest events (the seizure in the cities of regional governments), the government does not itch at all, and the maydaunas are not going to stop it. fool
    1. artifox
      artifox 24 January 2014 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: major071
      Maydaunas are not going to stop.

      And do not stop while with them will be breeding tea ceremonies. It is necessary to disperse them all hard, close Klitschko with the Tyagniboks, and then talk.
      Invite opposition leaders to negotiate and arrest between cases while they are all assembled. And then to figure out who is to blame and what to do.
    2. Galich Kos
      Galich Kos 24 January 2014 09: 41
      +6
      Quote: major071
      and maydauny are not going to stop in any way.

      How to stop there ?! They are already trying to seize power in Lviv. Until the end of the "performance" is still far away.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 24 January 2014 10: 25
        +5
        Quote: Galich Kos
        Already in Lviv, they are trying to seize power

        This morning in the car I listened to the news, on the occasion of Lviv, the prosecutor’s office opened a criminal case and issued an arrest warrant for the administration.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 24 January 2014 11: 02
          +6
          Quote: Sergh
          the prosecutor’s office opened a criminal case and issued an arrest warrant for the administration.

          Aha! But how else will the police react there! In the same place, all our families and their families are nearby. When they left the military unit (the chief and the officers) they were directly told "We have photographed you all and know you all. Just try to move to Kiev. Your families are here !!!"
  4. pensioner
    pensioner 24 January 2014 09: 02
    +6
    I’m wondering: how do “ordinary” people from Europe react to the events on the Maidan? Well, for example, what do they say on forums, socio-political sites? Maybe someone personally talked over a glass of tea, for example, with the Germans? What is the general mood? I kind of understand that for them the most important geopolitical problem is crumbs in their own bed. But anyway...
    1. major071
      major071 24 January 2014 09: 23
      +16
      hi Hi Yur! Yesterday I talked with relatives from Germany, and so I was asked what they say there at YOU in Ukraine for a madhouse? I told them: They say this is not with us, but in Ukraine, to which I received an answer that they say Ukraine is part of the USSR, therefore it means YOU! laughing But basically, the nifig people don’t know anything, sometimes they’re tweaking videos on TV with comments that freedom and democracy are stifled by the hands of security forces.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 24 January 2014 09: 43
        +3
        Great Vova! hi Well ... I see ...
        Well, do you even campaign among relatives! I appoint you responsible for campaigning among German citizens!
        Hmm ... what I AM? Stock captain? Battle major? Assigning ??? fool
        To blame! stop Got excited. repeat I realize ... I'm leaving ... recourse I will redeem ... winked
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 24 January 2014 11: 04
          +3
          Quote: retired
          To blame! stop I got excited. feel I realize ... I'm leaving ... recourse I will redeem ... winked

          I will send the fish with a special express! wassat
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 24 January 2014 13: 07
            +4
            Helen! Express acquired yes It remains to grab fish fellow !!
    2. Kolya
      Kolya 24 January 2014 10: 30
      +5
      abroad, they react as always, gasp, gasp, and rejoice in the soul and wait when we shoot each other, freeing up living space for them
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 24 January 2014 22: 55
      +4
      Quote: retired
      I’m wondering: how do “ordinary” people from Europe react to the events on the Maidan?

      What did you mean when you wrote "simple" people in quotation marks? Here is the view of the Western press at what is happening. There are few places where Putin and Russia are not accused of what is happening !!! When you read how bloodthirsty we are .......... you are given!

      Melik Kaylen Forbes
      ... "The latest round of deadly instability began because President Yanukovych pushed through laws to criminalize demonstrations to prevent a repeat of the first round. And who gave the impetus to the first round of demonstrations? The greatest Lord of Misrule of our era is Vladimir Putin."
      Barbara Ertel Tageszeitung
      The struggle for power in Ukraine plays into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin: it allows you to launch a verbal attack against the West, nodding to the fact that the demonstrators are provocateurs paid by the USA and the EU, which means that it involves Western interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine. Putin also uses Ukrainian protests to tighten the screws in Russia
      Marc Semo Libération
      "Over the past two months, the pro-Russian president of Ukraine has been confronted by a pro-European protest movement in the center of Kiev. The key to this crisis is in Moscow.
      Iain Trainor The Guardian
      EU policy towards Ukraine and several other post-Soviet states, known as the Eastern Partnership, has been undermined by the events of the past two months. Moscow and Kiev have outsmarted Brussels.
      Danielle Bressler Süddeutsche Zeitung
      The main blunder of the Europeans is not even that they failed to agree on the release of the former Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko, but that they “bought into Yanukovych’s friendliness towards Europe and underestimated the determination of Russian President Vladimir Putin to disrupt the signing of the agreement "
      James Marson The Wall Street Journal
      European Commission President Barroso and US Vice President Biden warned Yanukovych that the use of force against the protesters would have consequences. German Chancellor Merkel said that she was "furious" from the escalation of violence on the Kiev streets and the government's actions against protests and called on Yanukovych to respect the law and basic human rights.
      I especially liked the line with the statement Merkelcalled on Yanukovych to respect the law and fundamental human rightsSo no more no less! Kill the Golden Eagle, cut their families - Europe justifies you !!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. shinobi
    shinobi 24 January 2014 09: 04
    +6
    Power cannot be seized. It cannot be taken away. Power can only be picked up when it already belongs to no one.
    Napaleon Bonoparte
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 24 January 2014 10: 00
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      Power can only be picked up when it already belongs to no one.

      One cannot but agree with this, as it was in the 17th. In "The Godfather" there is a good phrase: "Power destroys those who do not have it ..."
  6. pa_nik
    pa_nik 24 January 2014 09: 09
    +2
    I foresee the general fatigue of the parties and an early outcome. One question: what? Yanukovych is passive, waiting for commands from the oligarchs, and those, apparently, can’t agree, and that’s the delay. Hence the appearance of his passivity and, without regretting it, he does not give any reason for external intervention. So - will win. hi
    1. Galich Kos
      Galich Kos 24 January 2014 09: 25
      0
      Quote: pa_nik
      he does not give any reason for external intervention. So - will win.

      Come on, you can always find a reason. And in this case, there is no need to look for victims among the maydanuts - here is an excellent reason for you, and nobody cares who is to blame for the deaths of people! Force must be answered only by force. The formula when they hit you on the right cheek and you substitute the left won't work there. The government in Ukraine is weak and indecisive, afraid to use force. If this continues, sooner or later it will be "squeezed".
  7. Arhj
    Arhj 24 January 2014 09: 10
    +3
    The landscape in the photo is somewhat reminiscent of a photo from the Second World War. If it weren’t snow, one would think that they filmed in Africa to demonstrate the difference in living standards in rich and poor areas. Although if this continues, Ukraine will differ from Africa only in climate
  8. askort154
    askort154 24 January 2014 09: 17
    +4
    Ukraine begins to "dissolve". Kiev is ruled by "Maidan", in Lvov and Rivne there are attempts to seize power.
    The president flirts with the leaders of the Maidan. The prime minister gives an interview from Davos, for him now it is more important
    to be there, to participate in the club of economists. Two world shows are approaching: the Olympic Games in Russia and
    there will be no civil war - there will be no one to fight for the people.
    1. Anper
      Anper 24 January 2014 11: 31
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Exactly attempts to seize power.

      From Rivne. First-hand. The phrase of the coordinator of the Rivne Maidan, said in a personal conversation, in the absence of the public: "We don't care what kind of government - Poles, Russians ... Our task is to overthrow Yanukovych." And as for the overthrow of the authorities in the districts and (especially) villages, their eyes bulged and they began to scratch their turnips - they were not taught that. They work in the premises of the Batkivshchyna faction on 2 old computers. So it is clear whose ears stick out from behind the curtains - not in vain they said about 16 million greens found in the Batkivshchyna office in Kiev.
  9. Reks
    Reks 24 January 2014 09: 18
    +7
    wassat I watched online at night on the "112" channel, it's tough !! And how is such a de.ila (God forgive me) Klitschko is listening! Brains are completely absent. Twenty times I inserted the word-STRIKE wassat "EVERYTHING, SHORTER others awakening STRIKE ......" lol Yes, and did not listen to them. What is funny, the Nazis Tyagnibok whistled. A miserable sight.
    1. calocha
      calocha 24 January 2014 09: 34
      +5
      Head to block heavy blows, where is the brain from?! This is not a "jab" to throw, it is necessary to be an orator! Vitalka wanted to play in Power, watched how he talked to Posner ... hilarity!)) Looks like the pre-trial detention center in Kiev will soon be packed to overflowing. ..Vo that will be a strike !!!
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 24 January 2014 10: 18
        +5
        Quote: calocha
        Looks like a pre-trial detention center in Kiev will soon be filled to capacity ...
        Judging by the number of banderlogs, concentration camps can’t do there ...
        1. askort154
          askort154 24 January 2014 12: 48
          +5
          a pensioner ... Judging by the number of banderlogs there, you can’t do without concentration camps ...

          The concentration camp is not democratic. But to send volunteers for improvement
          promising "Sevmorput" in the Russian Federation, it is quite modern. For this you need, only,
          join the CU, not the EU. If Yanyk had not fidgeted in two chairs, then everything would have been different.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 24 January 2014 13: 26
            +5
            Quote: askort154
            to send volunteers to improve the promising "Northern Sea Route" in the Russian Federation ... If Yanyk had not fidgeted on two chairs, then everything would have been different.

            Yeah... recourse We would have pulled our own ... For a long time we would have been driving from Salekhard to Igarka by train ... But Svanidze would have walked on the wagons, told us chronicles under the button accordion ... Lepota!
        2. Galich Kos
          Galich Kos 24 January 2014 13: 27
          +3
          Quote: retired
          Judging by the number of banderlogs

          Judging by the number of determined banderlogs, pre-trial detention centers and prisons may also be taken by storm. And what, for the release of watered prisoners for example. By the way, are there such people in Ukraine? Even if not, they will find yes
  10. domokl
    domokl 24 January 2014 09: 34
    +2
    So controversial article that without hesitation put a minus. It is veiled, but nevertheless a simple thought is visible - Yanukovych deliberately goes to bloodshed to resolve the issue of his image for the next election. Is the statement too risky?
    Yanukovych was not so popular before the Maidan to take such a risk. Just like the opposition. The approximate equality of the parties .. And one side and the other are locked to the wall.
    Now it’s very necessary to blame everything on power. It is precisely this that we see in speeches on the Internet TV .. Anyone who speaks on the Maidan must emphasize, we are peaceful, but the power ... They shoot again. This is now necessary .. Very necessary.
    And the article played perfectly on the ignorance of some commentators and on the natural desire to somehow solve the problem ..
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 24 January 2014 10: 40
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      So controversial article that without hesitation put a minus.


      I agree, and did the same.
      The author gently hints that nothing needs to be done, they say it will resolve itself, will not resolve
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 24 January 2014 12: 49
        +2
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        The author gently hints that nothing needs to be done, they say it will resolve itself, will not resolve


        Will not resolve for sure!
        In the Lviv region blocked the highway to Poland
        Car tires were lit in the center of the road
        On January 23 at 22.35 at the entrance to Novoyavorovsk, Yavorivsky District, at the 34 km of the Lviv-Krakovets highway near 130 people of radically minded youth tried to block the road. This was reported to UNN in the department of civil protection of the Lviv Regional State Administration.
        According to the report, automobile tires were lit in the center of the road. The fire and rescue unit arrived at the site was not allowed to extinguish.
        "The youth does not put forward demands, shouts out nationalist slogans. As a result of these actions, there is no delay in the movement of cars, but about 30 trucks have gathered on both sides, which cannot continue," the department noted.
        At the scene there are 2 traffic police crews, 20 employees of the Novoyavorivsk regional police department.
        1. domokl
          domokl 24 January 2014 17: 57
          0
          We know the facts ... The conversation now is not about what is happening, but about the fact that such seemingly correct articles unobtrusively put into their heads the idea that blood is really in the hands of Yanukovych. That youth is basically not to blame .And today I again watched Maidan online almost the whole day ... Provocations continue ...
  11. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 24 January 2014 09: 37
    +5
    In an interesting time we live comrades ..! drinks The turning point .. for geyevropy (it's time to break the ridge) .. They already got the Russian bear!
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 24 January 2014 16: 24
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In an interesting time we live comrades ..! drinks The turning point .. for geyevropy (it's time to break the ridge) .. They already got the Russian bear!


      You are lucky. I would also sit with popcorn. By the way, I didn’t understand yet that this pancake was happening in Ukraine. AND! And yet - gentlemen, Russians! It's time to be determined! So we take away the history bequeathed?!?!? In the light of the latter, flowers will be thrown at tanks.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 19: 18
        +8
        Quote: SHILO
        And yet - gentlemen, Russians! It's time to be determined! So we take away the testament bequeathed by history?!?!? In the light of the latter, flowers will be thrown at tanks.

        From this place in more detail, please.
        1. family tree
          family tree 24 January 2014 22: 26
          +3
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Quote: SHILO
          And yet - gentlemen, Russians! It's time to be determined! So we take away the testament bequeathed by history?!?!? In the light of the latter, flowers will be thrown at tanks.

          From this place in more detail, please.

          what Ilyich, and this IS-3, from the Arkhangelsk House of Officers, will reach Kiev? What do you think? Yes, shells would still have some money. And grab the flowers, on the contrary, well, so as not to drive empty request
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 25 January 2014 15: 26
            +3
            Quote: perepilka
            Ilyich, and this IS-3, from the Arkhangelsk House of Officers, will reach Kiev?

            Unfortunately, I’m not a tanker ... Therefore, I can’t give an answer fellow
            But the idea is good, I support. good
            And what kind of flowers, by the way? what
      2. es.d
        es.d 24 January 2014 19: 40
        +4
        Quote: SHILO
        And yet - gentlemen, Russians! It's time to be determined!

        Bottom-z-z-ya! Olympics, sir! They already wrote here - Putin’s hands are tied. At the Olympics even pidRoSov allowed ... The transformation of the Olympics into a background event is becoming a good tradition. Cancel the Olympics?
        If Yanukovych restrains himself, then how will he go to the polls? And with what? And with whom? If now everything does not burn out, then after the election a second series is expected? Who in Ukraine are you drawn to the presidency?
        1. 31231
          31231 24 January 2014 21: 56
          +7
          Who in Ukraine are you drawn to the presidency?


          But father, let’s call to the throne. He will pull the two powers.
          1. shevron
            shevron 26 January 2014 19: 41
            +1
            His worthy have not yet been found. Let the Old Man be at least
  12. Neophyte
    Neophyte 24 January 2014 09: 41
    +3
    Chaos Ukraine is a natural process over 20 years of independence. Many Ukrainians are dissatisfied with the standard of living, all this has accumulated over the years and has been postponed by hostility towards any government. Yanukovych will leave, Klitschko will come, this will not change the essence. It may be even worse, since Ukraine will plunge into chaos and Europe will not help. And what, will Russia again have to drag the Ukrainian economy? It’s easier, before it’s too late, to take an adequate population of Ukraine under the wing of Russia, issuing them Russian passports and then protecting them as citizens of Russia. And let all the other zapadentsev go to Geyevropu?
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 24 January 2014 10: 03
      +2
      The separation of Ukraine is the goal of the West.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 24 January 2014 10: 44
        +3
        Quote: Uncle
        The division of Ukraine is the goal of the West

        Well, to gather in a dense crowd of all zapadentsev along the border, so do morning, so that they stood on one leg, do not give out fur coats and quilted jackets. Then measure this occupied area with a tape measure and give it to the west together with the Dobloids. I think it will be like garlic.
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 24 January 2014 12: 46
          +2
          Quote: Sergh
          Well, to gather in a dense crowd of all zapadentsev along the border, so do morning, so that they stood on one leg, do not give out fur coats and quilted jackets. Then measure this occupied area with a tape measure and give it to the west together with the Dobloids. I think it will be like garlic.

          Well, this is too cruel, how will they shit? They will not enter the EU, but Mr., and this is not tolerant and not politically correct.
          In fairness, it is democratic to estimate how much on average sq. m for a resident of Ukraine, it is necessary to count the Natsik and calculate the share due to them.
          To enclose the calculated area with a high fence, to politically correct catch and let in live Bandera, let them want to build, who they want to put up monuments and join where they want at least to NATO, even to the EU, at least to.
          I am sure they will immediately split into groups and kill each other. They can’t live without it, the fratricide virus in the brains and the Polish genes rebel - Not permissible!
      2. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 10: 49
        +8
        The separation of Ukraine is the goal of the West.
        Well, why does the West divide Ukraine? What would you take for maintenance of your part, and even the most not responsible and give your part to Russia? I agree to organize a civil war on the border with Russia.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 24 January 2014 11: 12
          +10
          The target of the attack is Russia, and Ukraine is only a method of achieving the goal ...
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 24 January 2014 11: 28
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          I agree to organize a civil war on the border with Russia.

          Well, you can also send "peacekeeping" forces! And to arrange NATO bases close to Russia.
        3. 222222
          222222 24 January 2014 11: 28
          +1
          Interestingly, NATA will decide before the start of the Olympic Games in Sochi for a big dirty trick?
          1. SHILO
            SHILO 24 January 2014 16: 26
            +5
            Quote: 222222
            Interestingly, NATA will decide before the start of the Olympic Games in Sochi for a big dirty trick?



            Already decided!
        4. General Ermolov
          General Ermolov 24 January 2014 13: 07
          +1
          get closer to the borders and use banderlogs as militants to carry out all kinds of actions on the territory of Russia and Ukraine (if that remains)
      3. CTEPX
        CTEPX 24 January 2014 14: 25
        +4
        Quote: Uncle
        The separation of Ukraine is the goal of the West.

        I do not agree. The current goal of the West is to randomize Ukraine, saturate it with militants and the subsequent introduction of NATO troops.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 14: 36
          +6
          Quote: ctepx
          Quote: Uncle
          The separation of Ukraine is the goal of the West.
          I do not agree. The current goal of the West is to randomize Ukraine, saturate it with militants and the subsequent introduction of NATO troops.

          NATO has nothing to do with it ...
          Chaos and riots, shooting and looting, chaos on all counts ...
          But what is most offensive, the EXPECTED PROVOCATIONS in Sochi - "For the Maidan", etc. And the holiday will be disrupted ... stop
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 24 January 2014 14: 59
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            NATO has nothing to do with it ...

            Moreover, moreover)). Bandyukov must be protected. And not something people will understand.
          2. Sid.74
            Sid.74 24 January 2014 15: 15
            +2
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            EXPECTED PROVOCATIONS in Sochi - "For Maidan", etc. And the holiday will be disrupted ...

            Ilyich, God forbid! Already there is enough unrest in Ukraine! As for Ukraine in the EU itself, there is no unity on this political issue there is only a vacuum! You noticed how the hysteria about LGBT abated! It is interesting that ours somehow react sluggishly to what is happening, more is said about Syria than about Ukraine! The position of Germany is not clear, Merkel doesn’t mutter that they are all good against all the bad! And it’s likely that there will be no provocations from the EU! hi
  13. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 10: 05
    +7
    From the article
    The Yanukovych’s government either openly slapped, or, on the contrary, calculated everything in advance.
    Yes, maybe - everything is calculated before! If we only assume that Yanukovych is not stupid, then we can come to the conclusion that he and Vovan the furious had an agreement back in 2010 that Yanek was "playing the fool" with this association, distracting the "European people" so that they would not be hit ahead of time. After all, even the closest circle did not know that Janek would turn on the back one, otherwise it would have reached the "European people" (after all, there are 90% of the State Department agents in the government, otherwise it cannot be, after 20 years it is "independent") and they would have hurried and put pressure on. By the way, the Olympics in Russia are from the same opera. On the one hand, when the world is on the verge of a "grandiose nix" - the Olympics is nothing more than a stupid "burying money" in the ground. On the other hand, by preparing and holding the Olympics, Russia is delaying the "strike" of the West .... In general, after the Olympics, we will see either Janek stupid, or he acts according to a certain scenario.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 24 January 2014 10: 52
      +8
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      that he and Vovan the furious had an agreement back in 2010 that Janek was "playing the fool" with this association, distracting the "European people"

      In some ways there is a sense. Vovan, our cunning guy, is silent, silent, and then, as he betrays, betrays, you sit and think:
      -nifiga himself wrapped the loaf-mum!
      In short, this man can cut political chess for any grandmaster.
      Let's wait ...
      1. alone
        alone 24 January 2014 20: 11
        +2
        Quote: Sergh
        In some ways there is a sense. Vovan, our cunning guy, is silent, silent, and then, as he betrays, betrays, you sit and think:
        -nifiga himself wrapped the loaf-mum!


        Well, yes, the GDP can do that. It was silent, silent, and suddenly, bam !! Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied allegations that large-scale corruption took place during the preparations for the Sochi Olympics. Really wrapped the loaf mom !! wink
        1. 31231
          31231 24 January 2014 22: 01
          +2
          Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied allegations that large-scale corruption took place during the preparations for the Sochi Olympics.


          And what do you have evidence of LARGE corruption?
          On a medium-scale, in 2012 they started business, after his visit and the report of the Cossack about Bilalov.
          1. alone
            alone 25 January 2014 11: 44
            0
            When Putin found out that the estimate had grown from 1,2 billion to 8 billion rubles, he made a summary: “Well done! You work well. ”


            an overstatement of the estimate of 6,8 billion rubles, you call the average scale?
    2. 222222
      222222 24 January 2014 11: 34
      +1
      Vladimir 70 UA Today, 10:05 "Yes, maybe - everything has been calculated before! If we only admit it .."
      And what do you think about the arrest of the leader of the Rodina party Markov and the closure of his TV channels on a minor episode of 2007? (about the Russian vector in southern Ukraine and one of the main haters of modern Bandera)
      1. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 11: 48
        +4
        Vladimir 70 UA Today, 10:05 "Yes, maybe - everything has been calculated before! If we only admit it .."
        And what do you think about the arrest of the leader of the Rodina party Markov and the closure of his TV channels on a minor episode of 2007? (about the Russian vector in southern Ukraine and one of the main haters of modern Bandera)
        At the expense of Markov - it can be a distraction, maybe the same Markov "Yanek himself feeds pineapples" in the pre-trial detention center ... If the "cunning guy" Vovan is furious, everything can be. Vovan knows how to carry out many combinations ... I have not yet made an unambiguous conclusion for myself: either Janek is greedy and stupid, or he is far from stupid and acts according to the "approved plan" and everything is under his control. I just assumed that Janek not dumb and tried to justify the actions of Yanukovych.
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 11: 56
          +1
          Markov could also "get his hat" so that he would not stick out ahead of time. All this is true if Janek not dumb.
          1. 222222
            222222 24 January 2014 12: 48
            +1
            Vladimir 70 UA Today, 11:56 ↑ everything says that .. Yes, and the role of Firtash + Poroshenko .. If we assume that the first is connected with Moscow (???). and they promised the second. (???).
            "And the eternal battle - we only dream about it"
  14. explorer
    explorer 24 January 2014 10: 05
    +2
    they are "professional revolutionaries" bully when the money runs out (or stop giving)
    - then the end. hi
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 24 January 2014 10: 14
    +4
    The longer Maidan will stand and stay idle, the more likely it is to lose the country. Commands for the power seizure of power in western Ukraine by the Nazis have already been given. The week is different and everything will fall apart. In this sense, inaction is not an action, but a delay in death is similar in this situation.
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 10: 30
      +4
      The longer Maidan will stand and stay idle, the more likely it is to lose the country. Commands for the power seizure of power in western Ukraine by the Nazis have already been given.
      Not everything is clear with the loss of the country. If we manage to divide the country peacefully and push the Banderlog as a Pole, it will not be very bad. And let the Banderlog "twist the brain" of the Poles. It will be nothing more than a bomb for the Eurokolkhoz. The same Bender first of all slaughtered Poles and Jews. He began to slaughter Russians and Ukrainians when he entered the service of Nemchura.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 24 January 2014 10: 36
        +3
        Eh Volodya, you from the other side certainly know better, but you yourself believe in what you say?
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 10: 42
          0
          Eh Volodya, you from the other side certainly know better, but you yourself believe in what you say?
          Edik, I did not understand the question.
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 24 January 2014 11: 33
            0
            Quote: Vladimir 70
            Eh Volodya, you from the other side certainly know better, but you yourself believe in what you say?
            Edik, I did not understand the question.

            Volodya, I'm talking about the peaceful division of the country.
            1. Vladimir 70
              Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 11: 39
              +3
              Volodya, I'm talking about the peaceful division of the country.
              I didn’t say categorically that peaceful division would cost. I said that it would not be bad to split peacefully (or with "little blood"), not lead to "big blood", and shove the Banderlog to the Poles.
              1. ed65b
                ed65b 24 January 2014 13: 35
                +9
                Quote: Vladimir 70
                Volodya, I'm talking about the peaceful division of the country.
                I didn’t say categorically that peaceful division would cost. I said that it would not be bad to split peacefully (or with "little blood"), not lead to "big blood", and shove the Banderlog to the Poles.

                Personally, sitting in Russia, I am generally against the division of Ukraine. Ukraine should belong to Ukrainians and live and trade with Russia without borders. free movement of people, labor and goods should be between us. I don’t see Ukraine fragmented (or rather, I don’t want to see and believe in it). For me, the people of Ukraine and my eastern and western fraternal people. It's just that it's hard for him now, and the piano tuners have played their role for 20 years.
                1. Vladimir 70
                  Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 14: 05
                  +5
                  For me, Russia is Russia. And Ukraine, if you do not twist part of Russia.
                2. Russ69
                  Russ69 24 January 2014 16: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: ed65b
                  For me, the people of Ukraine and my brother’s eastern and western people

                  I am afraid that part of western Ukraine will always be like a time bomb. Maybe, well then. And who wants to move to us, to create normal conditions for moving.
                  1. ed65b
                    ed65b 24 January 2014 17: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Russ69
                    Quote: ed65b
                    For me, the people of Ukraine and my brother’s eastern and western people

                    I am afraid that part of western Ukraine will always be like a time bomb. Maybe, well then. And who wants to move to us, to create normal conditions for moving.

                    I do not agree. In dashing 90 he did business in Rivne, Lviv, Šiauliai, Vilnius. There was no hint of Russophobia. Yes, at first I did not understand the word perukarnya. but understood nothing.))))
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 11: 05
        +8
        Quote: Vladimir 70
        If we manage to divide the country peacefully and push the Banderlog as a Pole, it will not be very bad. And let Banderlog "twist the brain" of the Poles

        Make no mistake ...
        "Banderlog" needs ALL Ukraine.
        The eastern regions will have to be protected ... Perhaps with weapons in their hands ...
        1. zzz
          zzz 24 January 2014 15: 13
          +6
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Make no mistake ...
          "Banderlog" needs ALL Ukraine.
          The eastern regions will have to be protected ... Perhaps with weapons in their hands ...


          It is EVERYTHING! On a fig to them then all fuss, who will feed them? They have no industry.
      3. Egoza
        Egoza 24 January 2014 11: 32
        +8
        Quote: Vladimir 70
        If you manage to divide the country peacefully and push the banderlogs into a Pole, then it will not be very bad

        These are our dreams ... but the reality is different. Poles do not need one memory in FIG! Another thing is to make federalization with external integrity. And let the memory sit on what it will earn, without subsidies from the center, which comes from Eastern Ukraine. Then let it itch.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 11: 46
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          And let the memory sit on what it will earn, without subsidies from the center, which comes from Eastern Ukraine. Then let it itch.

          Elena!
          My comment on this topic on the floor "above ...
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 24 January 2014 12: 56
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            My comment on this topic on the floor "above ...

            I put a plus sign! fellow
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 24 January 2014 13: 02
          +6
          Quote: Egoza
          Another thing is to make federalization with external integrity. And let the memory sit on what it will earn, without subsidies from the center, which comes from Eastern Ukraine. Then let it itch.

          It sounds tempting: FEDERALIZATION and "OP-PA", everything has become a "bundle" ...
          But something suggests that fascism alone cannot be stopped by administrative means ...
          In the absence of clearly defined boundaries, the Banderlog will again and again try to impose their "ideals" on the majority.
          1. DPN
            DPN 24 January 2014 22: 14
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            Banderlog will again and again try to impose their "ideals" on the majority

            EVERYTHING is right and the UNION collapsed.
      4. 222222
        222222 24 January 2014 13: 09
        +2
        Vladimir 70 UA Today, 10:30 ↑ i.e. it turns out: -Substitute, -Discredit and-Destroy Bandera as a species .. with their hands ..
        1. zzz
          zzz 24 January 2014 15: 18
          0
          And how to do it?
  16. JonnyT
    JonnyT 24 January 2014 10: 16
    +4
    oh, and these fascists are jumping ... and the thievish Yanukovych with accomplices ....... that the opposition is the power - g0vn0 for the people ..... the most optimal is all power to the security forces, as in Egypt ......
    And what about the Nazis and Bender? Their fate is all the same, sooner or later to sit in the forests and basements and be cowardly from fear .......... I had a thought, but what if all this started the return of the Jews to the territory of the former Khazars?
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 24 January 2014 10: 46
      +2
      Quote: JonnyT
      I got a thought, but what if all this started the return of the Jews to the territory of the former Khazars?


      laughing laughing laughing plus for humor, for a long time did not laugh.
      Although ?? What the hell is not joking when God is sleeping. drinks
  17. Taezhnik
    Taezhnik 24 January 2014 10: 23
    +7
    Yes, while striking action-inaction of the government (read Yanukovych). In FIG talk to the opposition, she no longer controls this obscurantism, there are already other dark forces involved. Klitschko showed a huge example of the effect on the Maidan by receiving from a fire extinguisher on the scoreboard. Yanyk must already take serious measures, the plague across Ukraine is starting to spread. And he conducts some negotiations. Criminals should be in prison (especially according to the law on all these meetings, seizures that has entered into force). Something really looms the split and collapse of Ukraine. The main thing is that the civilian one does not start, otherwise non-Maidan people will tolerate a little more, look at all this and instead of Yanyk they will take care of restoring order and dispersing the Maidan.
    1. zzz
      zzz 24 January 2014 15: 51
      +1
      Quote: Taiga
      Yanyk must already take serious measures, the plague across Ukraine is starting to spread. And he conducts some negotiations.


      Some of them are dragging on time ... The 21st century plague — the orange revolutions — need to be burned out with fire, no matter how regrettable it sounds ...
  18. Mviktor
    Mviktor 24 January 2014 10: 25
    +4
    So to scoff at the people and the country, turn into brains the brains, management, culture, all aspects of life and parts of the state - this must be able to and must be tried. And apparently, they are able and trying ...

    all this happens only because the son of Yanukovych keeps the business and grandmothers abroad and is afraid of losing them. Hence, such a policy on the collapse of the country is a game of giveaway with the rebels. The most optimal solution, like in Egypt, the military to take power into their own hands, put Yanukovych on trial and transplant Euro-Maidans or divide the country into two parts. The choice is not great.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 24 January 2014 13: 13
      +3
      Quote: Mviktor
      The most optimal way, as in Egypt, the military take power into their own hands

      The army in Ukraine does not have the same weight as in Egypt, more precisely, it does NOT have it at all.
      Structures of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) are more than the AP of Ukraine ...
      1. zzz
        zzz 24 January 2014 15: 55
        +2
        Quote: Corsair
        The army in Ukraine does not have the same weight as in Egypt, more precisely, it does NOT have it at all.


        Pancake! They completely ruined the country, even there is no one to take power but the fascists!
  19. Pehmore
    Pehmore 24 January 2014 10: 29
    +8
    Actually, this Maidan is starting to bother. Why the Euro? In Europe, it would have been extinguished immediately and democracy has nothing to do with it. You look at this garbage dump, there are some rags. They are very well settled, they live in Kiev, they dress, feed, entertain them. They give shit anywhere (revolution!). By history we already gone through to what IT can bring.
  20. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 24 January 2014 10: 30
    +3
    From everything that is happening in Ukraine, one thing is clear: the West did not manage to "devour" Ukraine entirely, therefore the tactic was chosen: I will bite every time I do not eat it.
    "Boxer" from the opposition, actually got into the pose and stance of the Nationalist Bandit. And from this he can no longer wash off.
    The Maidan in fact ended, the Yugoslav scenario began.
    1. es.d
      es.d 24 January 2014 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Sobol
      "Boxer" from the opposition, actually got into the pose and stance of the Nationalist Bandit. And from this he can no longer wash off.
      The Maidan in fact ended, the Yugoslav scenario began.

      And which of the "rebels" in the former Yugoslavia was not laundered? I am begging you recourse
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 January 2014 13: 37
        +1
        Quote: es.d
        And which of the "rebels" in the former Yugoslavia was not laundered? I beg you to recourse

        especially if you recall who is the prime minister of Kosovo is Hashim Thachi (aka “Serpent”), accused by the EU of trafficking in human organs and drugs, and this is not counting his war crimes ...
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  21. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 10: 36
    +10
    The forecast is sad - chaos, disorder and robberies to government agencies. First, the administration, and when the CROWD feels FULL impunity - banks, shops and weapons depots ...
    In Ukraine, there is a variant of Moscow on October 93rd with the subsequent transition of the Syrian conflict ...

    Ukrainians have always proudly looked at Russia like "We did not have Chechnya", "We are all brothers, both Bandera and" Easterners "...".
    Time has put everything in its place.
    Militants and bandits, so long cherished, and guarded by power, felt impunity, and began to establish their power in the field, where possible, where the opposition of the security forces is minimal.
  22. Shellback
    Shellback 24 January 2014 11: 00
    +12
    In Ukraine, the Makhnovshchina is now spreading like a forest fire. Thugs seized the ministry tonight, and zero attention from the authorities. The regions will soon cease to obey Kiev, became insolent with impunity and usurped the right to speak on behalf of the PEOPLE, believing that they are the people. Unemployed, loafers, snotty thugs who grew up on Potap's songs ... What negotiations with them can be ?! And the PEOPLE worked all week, providing this herd with electricity and other benefits on the Maidan. Kiev was turned into a fascist nest. This is a big insane asylum, it seems that people are simply mad and do not know what they are doing. They are destroying the country with their own hands, thinking that something will change with Yanukovych's departure. It will change, but only for the worse. I know that Yanukovych is still a fruit, not a gift, but looking at this frostbitten with ox-eyed, heart-rending screaming "Glory to Ukraine", Get the Gang "etc., I think that Yanyk would be better. Of two evils ... Enrages that They do not disperse this rabble. The Berkut had a chance to clear the Maidan to zero, but apparently they gave the command to retreat. All that is needed is an order. So someone benefits from this confrontation. It smells of civil war and the collapse of Ukraine, because if a real PEOPLE, the working class will run out of patience , these fascist bastards will be soaked all over Ukraine by noisemakers day and night. The government does not want to stop this orgy or is afraid of responsibility. begins.
    1. Shellback
      Shellback 24 January 2014 11: 45
      +4
      Take a look now Channel 5 Ukrainian, what is happening in the country. This is massive insanity and insanity! A coup d'état staged by the Nazis and football fans! It is necessary to introduce an emergency and urgently restore order with the help of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Army, up to the use of firearms to defeat. Otherwise, we will lose the country. am
      1. 222222
        222222 24 January 2014 12: 06
        +5
        It is surprising why the authorities have not yet closed this "honest" 5 TV channel and TVI TV channel (Owners of TVi became Portnikov, Knyazhitsky..http: //censor.net.ua/news/241041/vladeltsami_tvi_stali_portnikov_shev
        chenko_i_knyajitskiyi http://censor.net.ua/news/248630/u_telekanala_tv_snova_pomenyalsya_rukovoditel_s
        mi http://taras-ua.com/Publikatsii/2187/) ..
        1. Shellback
          Shellback 24 January 2014 12: 15
          +2
          Quote: 222222
          It is surprising why the authorities have not yet closed this "honest" 5 TV channel and TV channel TV

          These are MAIN ENEMIES, balamutes, instigators. They constantly heat up the situation, do not let people calm down and go home. They must be closed. In general, all the media in Ukraine are liberal, but Channel 5 is the most fierce. This is the fifth column.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 24 January 2014 12: 55
        +3
        Quote: Shellback
        Take a look now 5 Ukrainian channel, what is happening in the country.

        I’m not answering the channel, but from other sources
        Several dozen activists of the Maidan entered the building of the Ministry of Agrarian Policy, located on Khreshchatyk near the Independence Square. The protesters barricaded themselves from the inside. Activists say they took over the government department to warm themselves. They knocked out windows near the front door. The entrance to the building is guarded by one activist. A small group of protesters entered through the neighboring entrance of the same building at Khreschatyk, 24.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136609.html

        Investigative department Zhytomyr GO Regional Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the field pre-trial investigation into criminal proceedings under Art. 15 (attempted crime), h. 1 Art. 341 (seizure of a state building) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. This was reported in the press service of the prosecutor's office of the Zhytomyr region. It was established that around 21.00 23 January during a peaceful meeting of citizens at a rally held on Korolev Square in the city of Zhitomir, a significant number of unknowns attempted to seize the building of the Zhytomyr Regional State Administration.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136594.html
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 24 January 2014 13: 05
          +2
          Elena, have a nice day!hi

          MOSCOW, 24 January. ITAR-TASS. The head of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Federation Council, Mikhail Margelov, is confident that in the situation in Ukraine all the signs of a coup attempt can be traced.

          Commenting on the developments in Ukraine on January 24 to journalists, he recalled, "Maidan voted for the opposition's withdrawal from the negotiation process / with the country's authorities /, in other words, for toughening up the confrontation." At the same time, the senator pointed out, the process of seizing administration buildings in a number of Ukrainian cities is under way, a parallel structure is being created - the People's Council of Ukraine, "and among the mass of protesters there is a dangerous crystallization of an asset of militants of different shades, who have announced their readiness for new battles with the authorities." “Opposition leaders are losing control over them,” Margelov stated.

          Thus, he admitted, "the negotiation process has not yet brought pacification - the protests continue." "And ahead of the weekend, when the activity of the protesters, as a rule, increases," the senator warned.

          The head of the profile committee of the Federation Council is convinced that "in Ukraine there are all the signs of an attempted coup." "However, President Viktor Yanukovych still has enough strength to stop these attempts," he is sure. For this, the senator believes, "the negotiations must have a practical result, since the situation has gone so far." "In turn, the opposition should not put forward ultimatums," Margelov added.

          "The situation in Ukraine is such that time is running out," he concluded.
          1. Shellback
            Shellback 24 January 2014 13: 34
            +3
            Quote: Sid.74
            However, President Viktor Yanukovych still has enough strength to stop these attempts

            So you need to stop, and not chew snot, thinking that everything by itself will resolve. Will not resolve! By inaction, Yanukovych commits criminal negligence. It is urgent to use force until the point of no return has arrived. Events are developing very quickly and unpredictably.
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 24 January 2014 14: 04
              +4
              Quote: Shellback
              Events develop very quickly and unpredictably.

              In this you are right, now the situation has grown beyond the borders of Kiev, the seizure of buildings in western Ukraine is a very alarming signal. How it will be further only known to God. That is, someone deliberately drives a wedge in the middle of all Ukraine. And it is no longer clear to the United States whether this is or the EU or the third forces of collaborationists from both! This was both 18 and 41 years. Someone really wants a bloody development of events and Yanukovych that everything is mumbling about the fact that the forces of the West and the forces of the East are to blame. The only thing that he can do is hard to disperse all this freedom of revolutionaries and in Kiev and Westerners to restrain! What tools can this be done, but only to plant these "tritushki"
              next to Zhuli and arrests, arrests and arrests again and also urgently look for a replacement for the choice of the president from his own PR!
  23. shelva
    shelva 24 January 2014 11: 01
    +1
    In the 39th, the Germans and I divided Poland and what this led to. Now we are being pushed to divide Ukraine. One can only hope for common sense and the presence of inflamed stupidity is already visible.
  24. Alekseev
    Alekseev 24 January 2014 11: 08
    +5
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    "We did not have Chechnya", "We are all brothers, both Bandera and" Easterners "...".
    Time has put everything in its place.

    That's right!
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    The militants and bandits, for so long cherished, and guarded by the authorities, felt impunity, and began to establish their power in places where it is possible

    And there is!
    But why did the authorities “guard and cherish” them?
    In contrast to Moscow? And on Western teams, where are the representatives of this rotten government holding their capital?
    Well, the main fighters for the nezalezhnosti!
    Both the authorities and the adequate people of Ukraine need to make a choice. Who are they with? It’s no longer possible to sit in two chairs: it’s impossible to please the banderlogs, to successfully cooperate with Russia and to be a truly democratic state.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 11: 14
      +4
      Quote: Alekseev
      Both the authorities and the adequate people of Ukraine need to make a choice. Who are they with? It’s no longer possible to sit in two chairs: it’s impossible to please the banderlogs, to successfully cooperate with Russia and to be a truly democratic state.

      I agree.
      You can’t stay in the neutral zone forever ...
  25. avg
    avg 24 January 2014 11: 39
    +2
    Later, she found out that this revolution was being made, including with Russian money, which the spineless government of Yanukovych was transferring to the western regions.
  26. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 24 January 2014 12: 07
    +3
    All the bad probability of obtaining Syria in Europe is very high. West and East are separating more and more and I’m afraid all this will lead to the cessation of the existence of a country such as Ukraine only to unfortunately people will suffer ordinary people again because it’s unlikely to cost without blood and these villains Klitschko Yatsenyuk Yanukovych will be far from this blood, I mean geographically far away. Oh brothers ho hly what have you done how could you go on about these scum.
  27. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 24 January 2014 12: 08
    +3
    The objectives of the EU and the United States have been voiced by Z. Brzezinski: to take Ukraine out of Russia's sphere of influence. Work in this direction was still under the Russian Empire, and the last quarter of a century was just some kind of holiday for all Russophobes, Atlanticists, gay integrators, neo-fascists, and so on.

    Everything is clear with the EU and the USA, for them Ukraine is a springboard for an attack on Russia and the fate of the people of Ukraine does not bother them at all.
    The position of the mercenaries of the Western special services, all the Nazis, tyingiboks, Klitschko and other rubbish, is also understandable, serving the EU and USA, they earn bucks and can even come to power.
    And what are those waiting for, to whom the special services do not pay and who have no chance of getting into power? What miracles do they count on? With gaining sovereignty, they were deceived and thrown, but what ambition was, what rhetoric, what prospects !!!
    Ukraine is not going anywhere from Russia, it will also buy oil and gas, it will also make its way to Russian markets, as well as the unemployed will go to work. Only prices and opportunities for everything will change, not in favor of Ukraine.
    The EU does not need Ukraine as a sovereign economically developed state; they will turn it into what Poland and the Baltic states have become, into impoverished dependent suburbs.
  28. Voinnet
    Voinnet 24 January 2014 12: 09
    0
    Wait, Yanukovych is pushed around, and then he will go to Putin again for help and advice!
  29. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 24 January 2014 12: 24
    +2
    An incomprehensible review is fully consistent with the situation in Kiev - it is unclear what is happening, it is unclear who steers, it is unclear what they want and it is unclear what will happen next.
    As long as there are spectators, the pots will be boiling, the downs will bark "To the heroes bacon!", The fascists will wave rods and throw bubbles.
    To the author of the article, a proposal - maybe it is worth writing about the "January laws" in more detail, what was tightened there?
  30. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 24 January 2014 12: 27
    +2
    The future of Euromaidan, look what banderlogs are drawn to, the distribution of helmets and baseball bats on the Maidan, by a certain Oleg Lyashko ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 24 January 2014 12: 50
      +5
      Quote: Novel 1977
      The future of Euromaidan, look what banderlogs are drawn to, the distribution of helmets and baseball bats on the Maidan, by a certain Oleg Lyashko ...

      Why "some"? This is a rather well-known pederast deputy in Ukraine, who entered parliament as a nominee from the Radical Party of Oleg Lyashka ...
  31. Platov
    Platov 24 January 2014 12: 28
    -4
    The collapse of the outskirts has accelerated. And to make this event faster, it’s beneficial for Gazprom. Money and nerves spent on flows must be recaptured, and preferably with great benefit. That will blow up Bandera several places in the pipeline. And Europe will introduce its troops to protect the gas pipeline, and ours, on the other hand, will throw troops. At what point there will be fire contact there and there will be a border border section. In a couple of sabotages, Europe will have to close the Lamansh and Suets for the passage of gas carriers or forget about the third energy package, and build Gazprom’s southern stream and apologize for the restrictions imposed on the northern stream.
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  33. Corsair
    Corsair 24 January 2014 12: 31
    +16
    When this allegorical picture was first posted, my comment was literally "blotted out" by visitors from Ukraine.
    But now it’s clear that fiction becomes reality ...
    And I would like to know WHERE are now those "guardians of the Fatherland" who did not see the signs of an impending catastrophe behind the blinkers of the square beyond their own noses.

    RESPOND, Panov!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 January 2014 13: 01
      +2
      Quote: Corsair
      And I would like to know WHERE are those "guardians of the Fatherland" now,

      To your question - I answer

      22 activist detained for participating in events on the Maidan, which is contained in a special box, is in the capital’s emergency hospital
      This is reported by activists of the community "Warta in Likarnі", writes "Ukrainian Truth".
      18 of them are in custody. Activists are brought here from jail and police department. On 24 of January some of them must be delivered to investigative actions.
      "Everyone was beaten: head, back. Very exhausted, because the police kept them for 20-30 hours," the message says.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 24 January 2014 13: 37
        0
        Elena, that the Crimean Tatars, how do they react ????
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 24 January 2014 13: 40
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        They are very exhausted, because the police kept them for 20-30 hours, "the report says.

        Well, what kind of dystrophan you need to be to get "exhaustion" in a day?
        Something I have not seen nausea among the "activists" of the booming explosives and riot police ...
    2. Marconi41
      Marconi41 25 January 2014 06: 40
      0
      This is something apocalyptic, some kind of fallout! I hope this does not come to that !!!
  34. pifon
    pifon 24 January 2014 12: 54
    +10
    On the Maidan, the wind whistles Thank God, not frost. Someone is looking for lice under the armpit, And someone struck a drain. Someone is listening to Ruslana, Will it burn or not? Well, someone, very drunk, gives a blowjob to a friend. On the podium Senya Rabbit Says about arbitrariness. Well, Yugik is an alcoholic. Pounding Tanya Chernovol. Near Portnikov Vitaliy, Everyone is calling to his office To check the genitals, European or not? Tyagnibok in the Dnieper bathes the oath to the face of Moscow.k.a.lya. He kicks, sobs. MP BLOW me! And now a heavyweight boxer climbed onto our stage. Silent for about forty minutes, Heil shouted! And again wept. In general, here we are not bored Come to the New Year! We slept the hymn we are loud. We're ho.hly - Wonderful people
    1. 222222
      222222 24 January 2014 13: 17
      +10
      "ISTERIKA
      On the Maidan Senin scream
      Reaches a squeal.
      Senya, if you are a man,
      Where is your charisma?
      Tearing up the microphone with a gutter:
      "Power down - and a speck!"
      Thank God the throne is occupied -
      Not a hat for Senka.
      We know whose protege you are.
      And yelling - what's the point ?!
      Better eat your carrots
      Somewhere on the sly. "
      (Donetsk poet, Hero of Ukraine Boris Belash.) Http://www.ostro.org/general/society/news/434250/
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 24 January 2014 13: 40
        +8
        Here is what Marina Kuznetsova wrote in the comments - one of the compassionate Kiev women, feeding the boys from the BB and the Golden Eagle:

        “Today I was inside the defenders -“ Golden Eagle ”and BB. Black faces, tormented people who sleep on buses, the smell of burning, gas masks, a mat, and hell. Black smoke resolved only in the evening. "Golden eagle" angered and brought. They will not spare anyone. Nobody regretted them. And I'm not sorry for anyone. I know that a naked man, who is shown by the media, was specially set up with an hatchet. With this hatchet, he almost killed the 18-year-old boy (also the son of a Ukrainian mother). The guy in intensive care. Glory to the heroes. Which one? It’s up to us. ”

        http://urb-a.livejournal.com/5504418.html#comments

        Vasil SIMONENKO

        HI DID NOT DIE UKRAINE!

        I greeted with you in the days of suvori,
        Kohl vogniv Chervonі iziki
        Zagli vіd zemlі pіd samі zorі
        І rode the sky of the litaka.

        Todi people called you dogs
        Bo vlizm nimtsyam postoli,
        Shouted "Heil" in hoarse bass
        І "I haven't died yet ..." they roared in a voice.

        De vi іshli - there pustka i Ruina,
        І the corpses did not move to the pits, -
        Spit the blood of "Nenko Ukraine"
        Mordy you and your hazyam.

        We drank b already її, nebogu,
        We sold us all over the world,
        If it were used for a podmogu
        The "i" did not return immediately.

        Now I know, having called the bones,
        Torguєte i wholesale, i vrozdrіb,
        New katіv ask in the guest
        In Ukrainian Salo and Hlib.

        You will be thrown on aliens
        Already docks dіdko vsіh not pick up,
        Bo know - Ukraine has not yet died
        І do not die!
        Dzherelo: School student library. Train. K., "Naukova Dumka", 1998.

        1. Gato
          Gato 24 January 2014 14: 29
          +4
          Quote: Novel 1977
          I know that a naked man, who is shown by the media, was specially set up with an hatchet. With this hatchet, he almost killed an 18-year-old boy (also the son of a Ukrainian mother)

          He just felt sorry (but in vain). This psycho doused himself with gasoline and threatened to set fire to it. The men undressed him, doused him with water, gave a slap in the back and pushed him to warm themselves on the bus.
          Well, they took a picture as a keepsake. I wonder only what h (M) udak posted it on the net to feed the magazine am
      2. Gato
        Gato 24 January 2014 14: 19
        +4
        Quote: 222222
        On the Maidan Senin scream
        Reaches a squeal.
        Senya, if you are a man,
        Where is your charisma?

        Senya Rabbit deceitfully deceived everyone!
        He promised to go under the bullets if Yanyk did not fulfill the ultimatum conditions by 20:00 on January 23. We have already prepared popcorn and settled down on the sofas - but there is no Canopy! Zhurba!
        1. Roman 1977
          Roman 1977 24 January 2014 14: 47
          +3
          Well, yes, yes ...




  35. region148
    region148 24 January 2014 13: 12
    +1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34eqQ1X1Zg4 Не много устаревшее видео за 18 января, но есть надежда...
  36. vvkroxa
    vvkroxa 24 January 2014 13: 36
    +19
    Like any resident of Ukraine, I follow the events in Kiev, which is quite natural. Well, I read the comments by itself. And the mood in the comments has changed over the past couple of days. There is an information war, a new generation war, and quite successfully, since the mood has changed in the comments. DON'T BE FUCKED by informational chatter, it's their job to make us nervous. I live in Kharkiv, the city works, TRAMS GO. In the morning, various budget organizations with which I work call me, agree with me on a work plan for this year, the budget has been adopted, funds are being distributed in the usual way. There are also some problems, for example, pensions are not paid to people in full. It is clear that we have been living in another country for the last few days, a certain milestone has been crossed. As for me, the West does not need a partition of Ukraine. Why do they need a stupid galician as a separate state? They need a jerk off the border of Russia. From us to Belgorod only 90 km.! It was infa that the Geyropeans themselves were a little afraid of the consequences, since if they come to power, we will not talk to the Nazis, nor will they have anyone to negotiate with. There are completely different goals - an animal hatred of everything Slavic and they do not think about the economy. It's like keeping an evil Rottweiler on a leash while he is on a leash, he is controllable, if you let him go and let him drink blood, then he can fly off the reels and attack the owner, which begins to be observed. people, the absolute majority remains calm, everyone understands perfectly well that these are the pindos' tricks in an attempt to recoup the humiliation of recent years, and the underlying reason is understandable - the weakening of Russia. Strong Russia = high prices for raw materials and gnashing of teeth, weak Russia = world domination and unlimited power over the world. And do not confuse us with Bandera, we are completely different and our values ​​are different, you need to understand this. You can write a lot, but I will end with the words of Suvorov: "the powder is not gunpowder, the bullets are not cannons, the scythe is not a cleaver, and I myself am not a German, but a natural hare!" And many people hope that Russia will not abandon us if hard times come. A bit chaotic, there is no desire to build a logical chain, and it will turn out much longer.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 24 January 2014 17: 53
      +2
      Brother, Russia is with you! If anything, just blink.
    2. stariy
      stariy 24 January 2014 22: 18
      +2
      Quote: vvkroxa
      And many hope that Russia will not abandon

      Brothers are not abandoned in difficult times !!!
  37. Platov
    Platov 24 January 2014 13: 48
    -4
    The collapse of the outskirts has accelerated. And to make this event faster, it’s beneficial for Gazprom. Money and nerves spent on flows must be recaptured, and preferably with great benefit. That will blow up Bandera several places in the pipeline. And Europe will introduce its troops to protect the gas pipeline, and ours, on the other hand, will throw troops. At what point there will be fire contact there and there will be a border section of the outskirts. A couple of sabotages will have to close Lamansh and Suets for the passage of gas carriers or forget about the third energy package, and build a southern stream for Gazprom and apologize for the restrictions imposed on the northern stream.
  38. hokol
    hokol 24 January 2014 14: 03
    +1
    I carefully follow the events in Ukraine, and there is active propaganda: you are brainwashed in your Raksha. Kiselyov is lying, everyone is lying, we are not against Russia, we are for the idea. I thought maybe it’s true, I opened a link with online broadcasting to the RBK of Ukraine without any censorship.
    I watched yesterday from 15-00 to 19-00
    They showed the scene on which different figures appear, almost all spoke only the Ukrainian language, one truth came out from Sevastopol, he apologized for a long time that he would not speak mov, but he understood the moviu and at the end shouted Sevastopol tse Ukraine many times.
    Most of all 3-4 times a nationalist named on the stage appeared on the stage. I don’t know. The essence of his speeches was that Russia and Putin were to blame, you see he invests millions in provocateurs, accused Russia of famine and all the troubles that Ukarina managed without Russia would be with the Tatars, Poles and Ottomans, and if not for Russia, Ukraine would occupy a lot more space on the map and would be out of much more than 45 million. In his speech there were a lot, Tyatushki, Putin and the chimera, and very often Jews.
    This Natsik also said what a great guy Tyagnibok.
    in the last speech I walked around Kuchma I don’t know the exact translation, but he said this: Well, you are not old with us on the Maidan, of course, they remembered the deceased Armenian.
    Tyagnibok’s performance I do not want to disassemble. In principle, I can say that he is an excellent speaker when he has to make a joke, when he has to make a sad face and remember the victims of the golden eagle.
    Priests were especially pleased -
    Here’s what one of them said:
    God is with us, and when the army of God overthrew Satan, it was victorious because with whom God is the one who conquers. and Yanukovych is Satan and his evil power, so let's overthrow this evil power that kills defenseless people.
    In the intervals between performances there were documentaries one about the makhno where the Jewish Trotsky begged to take a percop and mummy like a real Cossack his military prowess ...
    about some kind of nationalists innocently tortured by bloody gebnya

    In total, my opinion is that Maidan is not Ukraine’s problems anymore, it’s already our problems, there is a real brainwashing and Russia is declared the main enemy, and if we skip now we will get an ENJOYABLE state at hand.

    Your power is your choice and this is your country. What have we to do with it?

    PS watch online broadcasting on RBC Ukraine
  39. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 24 January 2014 14: 12
    +4
    Quote: Shellback
    Makhnovschina now spreads like wildfire in Ukraine

    Do not confuse Makhno with Bandera. If Makhno was now alive, he would be the first to go to disperse this brown plague.
    1. Shellback
      Shellback 24 January 2014 21: 47
      -1
      Quote: Andrew Peter
      Do not confuse Makhno with Bandera

      Makhnovism - in the sense of lawlessness, in the general sense.
  40. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 24 January 2014 14: 14
    +9
    On Friday morning, January 25, a group of thousands of peaceful protesters surrounded and blocked the US Embassy in Kiev. Peaceful demonstrators in full protective gear, helmets, wooden and metal bats and shields in their hands are building barricades. By 11 o'clock, several trucks brought up a bunch of tires and set them on fire. The US Embassy disappeared into smoke. All cars with diplomatic plates located nearby were burned. Peaceful demonstrators demanding "Yankee go hom!" throw Molotov cocktails at the embassy. By 12 o'clock peaceful demonstrators have erected a catapult and are firing incendiary shells at the building. At 13.00 a fire started, the embassy staff run out into the street and fall under a hail of peaceful stones. Two American guards fell into the hands of the protesters and were dragged to a "lynch trial". The dense ranks of the Berkut are nearby and democratically watch the protests. Azarov said that the situation is completely under control. Russia issued a statement on the inadmissibility of the use of force against peaceful demonstrators and threatened to impose penalties on Ukrainian officials. Yanukovych appealed to the US and the EU to clarify which demonstrators can be subjected to force, and which cannot? ...
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 24 January 2014 14: 21
      +3
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      The dense ranks of the Berkut are nearby and democratically watch the protests. Azarov said that the situation is completely under control.

      Ivan, a great joke would really happen! winked good
      1. Gato
        Gato 24 January 2014 15: 18
        +7
        Quote: Sid.74
        On Friday morning, January 25, a group of peaceful rallies in the amount of several thousand people surrounded and blocked the US Embassy in Kiev ..

        laughing fellow
        ... At the same time, a group of Aviamaydanovites consisting of 3 bombing regiments blocked the residence of the US President. Peaceful demonstrators in blue berets surrounded the White House with full-profile barricades.
    2. rolik2
      rolik2 24 January 2014 23: 39
      +1
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      "Yankee go hom!"
  41. antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 24 January 2014 14: 15
    +6
    Eh! So the hand itches: to completely cordon off the quarter where the "maydanutyes" have settled, to give 2 hours to voluntarily leave the barricades through special filtration points and checkpoints, announcing this through the media, SMS and the Internet. Warn all media representatives working at Moydaun that if they do not leave the square within 2 hours, the authorities will no longer be held responsible for the possible consequences. As soon as 2 hours pass, cut off the Internet, cellular communications and begin a large-scale operation to restore public order. At the same time, to create special groups for the isolation and arrest of opposition leaders, NGO leaders, to conduct large-scale searches in offices and offices, from where the threads run to the "moydown". Introduce a state of emergency and cover the area with such a sledgehammer, so that at once the hunt to discourage those who want to follow the example of moydanut in other cities.
  42. designer_59
    designer_59 24 January 2014 14: 17
    +2
    Conductors of the Euro Maidan are sitting in the silence of American and European offices. What is striking is not that they have long been in Ukrainian politics, but with what impudence and shamelessness they all do. However, as far as Ukraine allows the West to behave towards it, so they behave. The state of Ukraine did not take place, as indeed did not take place for many centuries ago. Divorcing into separate apartments is a blessing for Ukrainians. Well, you can’t cross a hedgehog and have already noticed that these two banks of the Dnieper are too different for Ukraine to be said to be one country.
  43. Silvio
    Silvio 24 January 2014 14: 19
    +3
    [img] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rejtan_Upadek_Polski_Matejko.jpg?use
    lang = ru [/ img]
    Previously, Ukraine was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which for hundreds of years followed the political tradition of broad, representative democracy for the small landed nobility. The king's power was not absolute, and the gentry delegated to the Seimas determined the main directions of state policy. In the conditions of the crisis, the current Ukrainian elite, as in the Middle Ages, will negotiate, and the "king" will mumble something instead of putting the pogromists in their place. I do not want to idealize Russian absolutism, but the democratic traditions of the gentry republic led to the paralysis of the central government at the end of the 18th century. and the division of Rzecz Pospolita by its three neighbors - kondovy monarchies. Divided by Russia, Prussia and Austria, the Polish state was unable to provide at least some organized resistance to external expansion. As if something like this did not happen again in the 21st century.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 16: 11
      +3
      this is one of the reasons why the Poles could not become the second Slavic empire, much arrogance and not a desire to submit to the center.
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  44. hokol
    hokol 24 January 2014 14: 27
    +2
    I’ve already caught cons, I said the truth :)
    I generally like dialogs with Maidan supporters:
    here is one of them wrote
    You yourself are to blame, or rather not specifically you and your friends, of course, the history of hatred goes back 350 years, when Catherine II destroyed the Cossacks ... and then it went all the way to the barbarian "scoop".
    I answered him my nickname Patriot28
    Catherine gave the Cossacks the land of the Kuban, good destruction can not be said
    I immediately received an answer, minus and put in ignore
    You can suck on this situation as much as you like, I named only one, this is a drop in the ocean of all the "blessings" of Russia.

    In general, to listen to you, you are so good, even apply to a sore. And your nickname answered everything for you ...
  45. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 14: 29
    +2
    unfortunately everything is going to collapse
    the question is, who will analyze the western regions?
    and still it reminds Europe of the second half of the thirties of the last century
  46. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 24 January 2014 14: 30
    +5
    Quote: designer_59
    The state of Ukraine did not happen, but it didn’t take place many centuries ago. Divorcing into separate apartments is good for Ukrainians. Well, you can’t cross a hedgehog and have already noticed that these two banks of the Dnieper are too different to say that Ukraine this is one country.

    Inadequate nationalistic part of Ukraine, like gangrene, if not amputated, the whole country will die.
    The OUN members are well known for their monstrous irrational atrocities, but even against this background, their reprisals against insufficiently fanatical supporters and accomplices shock their brutality.
    Bandera’s power is inevitable massacre of civilians, and if they join the EU it is also the intervention of foreign punitive, rabble from around the world, as in Syria.
    Ub - full-time nationalist UNR in 1918 year smeared itself with an invitation to Ukraine of German punitive.
    OUN during the Great Patriotic War actively helped the Nazis to exterminate Ukrainians.
    Klitschko and tyagniboki are no different from previous Ukrainian nationalists.
  47. Egoza
    Egoza 24 January 2014 14: 56
    +5
    My fears come true !!!
    Attention! The police of the city of Rivne in full force resigned!

    What will happen in a city filled with fascist shortcomings from the west is not known. No police - no order, this is a no brainer. An uneven hour in the city will begin robberies and looting. What will happen next and who will protect civilians is not yet clear ...

    Under the Kiev commander of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, police officers are caught and beaten - source A source in the Kiev headquarters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs informs Polemics how things are with the Kiev police. "We were forbidden to leave the central office. Activists are on duty under the control, they catch the cops and beat them up. It is not recommended to use personal transport, no light on the transport. There is also operational information that weapons are being brought to tents on the Maidan," the source said.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136628.html
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 24 January 2014 15: 04
      +2
      This is a false propaganda information stuffing opponents of the Russian world, our enemies, the written ones make confusion in the actions of our law enforcement authorities, panic among the population and distrust and disbelief in the authorities.

      Do not believe these false information throws

      Do not spread them, do not fight on the side of the enemy against your people.
  48. Egoza
    Egoza 24 January 2014 14: 57
    +5
    It is reported that the Ukrainian fascists began to mark the houses where the soldiers of the Golden Eagle live. The situation became overly tense, because it is not clear what the Maidanut people can do with the property and relatives of the police.



    A day earlier, our site already had information of a provocative nature, in which Andrei Lozovoy, an under-proponent, called on his Facebook to beat the wives and children of the security forces, which caused a storm of indignation and genuine hatred among most adequate people.

    His post sagged a couple of days, after which it was deleted. Of course, Andryusha realized that he had blundered too much. It is possible that his fascist statement was picked up and put into action.

    Sound familiar?

    These creatures will not stop at nothing. Patience to the people of Kiev, resistance to the soldiers from the BB and Golden Eagle. I hope that everything will work out.
    1. alex13-61
      alex13-61 24 January 2014 17: 18
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      These creatures will not stop at nothing.

      Rereading Bulgakov's White Guard, I understand that little has changed in 100 years ...
  49. Egoza
    Egoza 24 January 2014 15: 00
    +2
    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych said that he does not intend to introduce a state of emergency in connection with the aggravation of the conflict with the opposition. In a telephone conversation with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso on Thursday morning, January 23, he also assured the European Union of his readiness for dialogue, reports dpa.
    Yanukovych also said that he welcomes the mediation efforts of the EU in resolving the crisis in Ukraine. He agreed with Barroso that already on January 24, the EU Commissioner, supervising relations with Eastern European countries, Stefan Fule, will arrive in Kiev. EU High Representative for Foreign Policy and Security Catherine Ashton will visit Ukraine next week.
    According to the European Commission, during a telephone conversation, Jose Manuel Barroso and Viktor Yanukovych also discussed the possible consequences for relations between the EU and Ukraine in case the situation in Ukraine does not stabilize. The representative of the European Commission, however, stressed that at first Brussels wants to "give a chance to dialogue."

    Source: Deutsche Welle
    xxxxx
    They balamute with one hand, and wave the finger with the other and call for dialogue !!!! am
  50. Stinger
    Stinger 24 January 2014 15: 01
    +1
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    You can apply a hard Chinese script, but for this Yanyk does not have eggs, he is Europointegrated ....

    That's why I got the motto on the logo.
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 24 January 2014 15: 08
      +5
      Quote: Stinger
      Quote: sledgehammer102
      You can apply a hard Chinese script, but for this Yanyk does not have eggs, he is Europointegrated ....

      That's why I got the motto on the logo.

      The fact that Yanyk does not give an order to disperse maydauns is precisely the clearest proof of the presence of "steel eggs".
      "... Endurance and the ability to" retreat to attack "is the most difficult and psychologically most difficult part of the art of war. Only Russians can master it perfectly. But from the outside it often seems to be a manifestation of weakness and almost defeat. Moreover, the participants of the" passive battle "themselves, their own soldiers often give in to doubt and lose faith in their own strength.There is a huge risk that requires the will of the commander-in-chief and the finest military art to maintain the faith of their children until the very last moment.Looking at today's Kiev, it is somehow especially realistic to imagine how two centuries ago they murmured at the retreating Kutuzov. He handed over city after city, trudged back with carts, prayed in monasteries - and around him in the army everyone was seething, demanded, desperate. "Is it time? - No, let's be patient, guys ... "And again weaving back." Let's hit right now, Mikhailo Illarionovich! - Let's wait a little ... "And again uncertainty and expectations ..."

      Remember the mysterious tactic.
      When we retreat, we are moving forward.