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Dmitry Medvedev: the economy is normal, but it does not please anyone

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In the first half of December last year (that is, quite recently), a number of government economists declared that by the end of the year the Russian economy would grow by 1,8%. This was "confirmed" by various analytical calculations and presented through the press. At the same time, a part of high-ranking officials of the Ministry of Economic Development (MED) announced that 1,8% is an increase, which, according to the results of 2013, can become a “ceiling”, and it would be quite good if growth would be at least 1,5% .


The year 2014 has arrived. And it turned out that even 1,5% growth for the Russian economy was unattainable. This was reported in a very original form by the chairman of the Russian government, Dmitry Medvedev. The originality lies in the fact that, according to the results of the past year, the state of the Russian economy was presented not in official reports, but through an interview with CNN television. In this very interview, Dmitry Medvedev gave a surprising economic assessment of the Russian financial and economic sector, calling the Russian economy a quote: “by and large, normal,” adding: “but it doesn’t please anyone.” "She does not make me happy, she, naturally, does not make the President happy, she does not make happy those who are engaged in this."

Dmitry Medvedev: the economy is normal, but it does not please anyone


How is it necessary to translate the words of Dmitry Anatolyevich into the public language, if the economy is “normal”, but “nobody likes”? At the household level, such a thesis is similar to how it’s: our chief, Ivan Ivanovich, is generally a good person — a world peasant, but he doesn’t like anyone in the team ... Well, or quite anecdotal: our salaries are good, but small ...

The translation is given by the Prime Minister himself. “In general, the normal” economy, according to the second person in the state, is considered if its growth indicators are 1,4%. Recall that at the beginning of 2013, the forecast was at the level of 3-3,5% growth, at the end of the year - 1,5-1,8%, and now we learned that we did not reach this forecast. Indeed, there is hardly any reason to be happy for the Russian economic system, especially for those people who work in the power system. After all, economic indicators are one of several, let's say, litmus papers, according to which one can judge the effectiveness of these gentlemen.

Interestingly, Dmitry Medvedev called the economy “generally normal” when answering a question from CNN journalist Christian Amanpour. The question was whether he (the prime minister) was afraid of losing his job due to the fact that President Vladimir Putin was not satisfied with the state of the economy. The journalist did not wait for a direct response from Medvedev, but everyone learned about the advantages of the Russian economy. The Prime Minister seems to have hinted that the chair under him does not even think about staggering, because, in his personal opinion, the economy has many advantages. What kind? We list the advantages of the chairman of the government:

The best ratio of external and domestic debt to GDP
.

It is difficult to argue here, since the debt pit, for example, in the average EU state, not to mention, for example, the United States or Japan, looks like a chasm compared to a Russian one. Russia's state debt (if you believe the data presented by Medvedev) is 10,7% of GDP. For comparison: the national debt of Italy is 128% of GDP, Spain is 96% of GDP, the USA is 107% of GDP, Germany is 77% of GDP, Finland is 53% of GDP, Ukraine is 38% of GDP, Greece is 180% of GDP, Japan is already 240 % Of GDP.

Low inflation
.

And here one could say that Dmitry Medvedev is frankly disingenuous, since inflation figures in the Russian Federation last year amounted to 6,5% (for comparison: Germany - 1,4%, China - 2,1%, USA - 2%, France - 1%, United Kingdom - 2,8%). But the prime minister at the mention of the term “low inflation” immediately added: “for Russia” ... An interesting addition ...

Low unemployment


Dmitry Medvedev presented the Russian unemployment rate at 5,5%. If official indicators have much in common with objective reality, then in Russia unemployment is indeed relatively low. For comparison: Portugal - 17,4%, Spain - 26,3%, Greece - almost 27%, Cyprus - 17,3%, Latvia - 12,5%, Estonia - 8%, USA - 7,4%, Finland - 7,3%. Russian indicators here are similar to those of such EU countries as, for example, Austria or Germany.

However, on closer examination of Russian unemployment, it can be seen that unemployment “behaves” extremely differently in certain age groups. High rates, for example, in the youngest age group: age from 18 to 24 years. Here, the 2013 indicators of the year stood at nearly 30%. In calculating unemployment, people who are not educated, do not serve in the army (for men), do not care for children under the age of 1,5 years (for women), and have no medical disabilities that prevent them from working are taken into account. In other words, there is an impressive group of young people in Russia who either cannot apply the education they have (if they have one), or do not want to do it due to certain circumstances, or work in such a way that state bodies simply do not know about this ...

By the level of registered unemployment among young people, Russia today is about 2 times the world average. And this can hardly be attributed to the economic advantages.

On the words of “low unemployment”, Dmitry Medvedev’s reflections on Russia's economic “pluses” are over. However, in an interview with CNN, the prime minister pondered on the other questions asked by the journalist. One of these questions: the Russian economy is hampered by poor management (according to the OECD report) and corruption; further - quote:

Do you recognize it? What is happening with management and how to achieve the rule of law, which will inspire investors with the confidence necessary to conduct business in Russia?


Dmitry Medvedev in the first part of his response objected to the interviewer, saying that he has other data from the OECD (OECD). The Prime Minister, obviously, intending to add some indirect "advantages" to the Russian economy, said that the OECD leader quite recently literally praised Russia for saying, "Even a crisis in your country is better than in other countries ..."

To be honest, “praise” is clearly peculiar, especially if you report that “crisis is better” or “crisis is worse” are very strange definitions for the economy. In style: your whooping cough will be better than ours ...

Further, however, Medvedev acknowledged that corruption in Russia is one of the main inhibiting links of the economy, as well as the problem of creating a “normal business climate”. The prime minister didn’t recognize the problem of inefficient economic management, he simply ignored this part of the question, starting to talk about such broad concepts as the “problem of institutions”. Phrases: “We are working on the so-called road maps for business” and “... I think we are moving forward”, it seems, should have dissuaded CNN and everyone else that the economic management system of Russia works, to put it mildly, poorly.

Summing up the summary of the “economic” part of the interview (the full version is presented on CNN and on Russian government website) with Prime Minister Medvedev, we can say one thing: the chairman of the government remains fully confident that today's work of the government is the only possible option for the domestic economy, that there are no more efficient and effective options a) no, b) ... And where does such confidence? ..
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  1. major071
    major071 24 January 2014 09: 06
    +52
    For some reason, I believe EM more Primakov in assessing our economy, than ...
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 24 January 2014 09: 59
      +20
      major071

      Medvedev, with his verbal pearls - Winnie the Pooh, who has sawdust in his head, and "spelling good, but lame."

      But you can’t talk about Putin’s friend ...
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 24 January 2014 21: 45
        +1
        To drive him with pissed rags, how is it impossible?
        You mow, answer, because you didn’t even want to change time — although everyone needs it — it’s just such a person who considers all his decisions to be right ...- Even if he openly worked out ...- I must admit to the bastard that yes -Do you understand what kind of character I'm trying to describe?
    2. amigo1969
      amigo1969 24 January 2014 10: 15
      +19
      Looking at the expression on his face, I can imagine: his parents let him play the sandbox, and he got lost and came to the Kremlin)))) Blessed ... negative
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 24 January 2014 10: 37
        +4
        our salaries are good, but small ...
        That's why they steal!
      2. optimist
        optimist 24 January 2014 10: 43
        +19
        Quote: amigo1969
        Blissful...

        Why did you attack the kid? laughing The dude is honestly working out his gesheft in the "All-Russian show for lokhs": "About a good GDP and a bad lady." These bandits have all the roles assigned for decades to come, and we are "breaking spears" here ...
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 24 January 2014 11: 01
          +17
          A couple of photos.
          Dmitry Medvedev: the economy is normal, but it does not make anyone happy.

          This dimka has long been pleasing no one.
          1. 311ove
            311ove 24 January 2014 11: 29
            0
            100000+ Photos straight not in the eyebrow, but in the eye good good hi
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          5. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 24 January 2014 20: 35
            +5
            Quote: klimpopov
            This Dima has long been pleasing no one
        2. Old Cynic
          Old Cynic 24 January 2014 11: 41
          +6
          The dude is honestly working out his gesheft in the "All-Russian show for lokhs": "About a good GDP and a bad lady." These bandits have all the roles assigned for decades to come, and we are "breaking spears" here ...


          You, my friend, are not an optimist, but a realist, and a smart realist ... hi
        3. tchack
          tchack 24 January 2014 13: 29
          -4
          Yes of course. Putin leads conservative industrialists (red directors), and Medvedev - liberals. This is a war of two elites.
          1. alone
            alone 24 January 2014 20: 43
            0
            Quote: tchack
            Yes of course. Putin leads conservative industrialists (red directors), and Medvedev - liberals. This is a war of two elites.



            lol
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        5. ABV
          ABV 24 January 2014 16: 05
          +1
          Bad investigator, good investigator?
      3. 311ove
        311ove 24 January 2014 11: 27
        +3
        good
        Quote: amigo1969
        : parents let him play the sandbox, but he got lost and came to the Kremlin))))
        Well, call your parents soon, maybe the old people are worried, they’ve wanted to get off their feet ... crying laughing
    3. tchack
      tchack 24 January 2014 13: 25
      +8
      It’s a pity that Yevgeny Maksimovich is 84 years old, his prime minister ...

      But I can’t see the faces of Medvedev and Dvorkovich ...
      1. major071
        major071 24 January 2014 15: 56
        +4
        Stop scolding the Premiere already! Give him a deadline, and everything will work out! lol
        1. major071
          major071 24 January 2014 21: 23
          +5
          Stop scolding the Premiere already! Give him a deadline, and everything will work out!

          Yes, he chopped people up, doesn’t understand subtle humor fool
    4. brainkiller
      brainkiller 24 January 2014 16: 41
      0
      because the old man does not see the ability of our dimagogue to cope with the shadow sector of the economy, hence the tightness in monetary policy.
      With regard to economic growth, the indicators were in a small plus due to the intense well-known hyper-construction, no construction, no plus.
    5. Interface
      Interface 24 January 2014 21: 25
      0
      Well, a penguin-- he is in Russia-- a penguin
  2. Name
    Name 24 January 2014 09: 07
    +9
    WELL, MLYA, WHAT SECRETS OF RUSSIA such a "chairman" of the government, all brains became liquid, and A. Oh time, time for him to a psychiatrist.
    1. Fin
      Fin 24 January 2014 09: 45
      +12
      Quote: name
      FOR WHAT SECRETS OF RUSSIA such a "chairman"

      Lord help me get rid of the useless in peacetime and the dangerous in war. Let him lead something where there will be no harm to the people of Russia from his decisions.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 24 January 2014 11: 44
      +1
      this z.raz place in prison, and the psychiatrist will smear him.
  3. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 24 January 2014 09: 14
    +2
    Key phrase: (c) "But she does not make anyone happy." To be honest, I am not happy either! Because it affects my salary. And if you stole less, you wouldn't raise gasoline by five rubles, because the budget of the Russian Federation needs to be replenished somehow ... Dmitry Anatolyevich, why did you fall in my eyes? request No. what crying
  4. predator.3
    predator.3 24 January 2014 09: 18
    +30
    The man who sat at the post-graduate student near Sobchak, then ran around St. Petersburg glued leaflets calling to vote for entogo Sobchak, worked as a referent, checking legal documents, then a man who didn’t manage, not just the region, but the district, was hanging around in the Kremlin, suddenly becoming the president of Russia then prime minister. fool Well, complete absurdity!
    1. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 24 January 2014 09: 28
      +8
      Do you think he just hung around Sobchak?
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    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 24 January 2014 09: 32
      +15
      Quote: predator.3
      The man who sat by the graduate student near Sobchak, then ran around Peter glued leaflets calling to vote for the entogo Sobchak, suddenly becomes the president of Russia, then the prime minister.


      There is also the same option: Sobchak, president, prime minister .....
      1. Orik
        Orik 24 January 2014 14: 18
        +3
        There is a combined example
  5. oracul
    oracul 24 January 2014 09: 23
    +20
    If you evaluate all the initiatives of DAM for its presidency and prime minister, it should be recognized that almost all of them are unsuccessful. The main ability of DAM is to puff out their cheeks and to chatter any idea.
    1. Letun
      Letun 24 January 2014 10: 36
      +9
      Yes, in general. I could not even do such a primitive procedure as changing the clock without jambs! But then, correctly you say, blew lips and carried nonsense about the fact that cows like this time more. Well, what else can I say ?!
  6. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 24 January 2014 09: 28
    +19
    Medvedev, as in a parallel reality lives
    1. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 27 January 2014 13: 57
      0
      Kremlin dreamer
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  7. kare
    kare 24 January 2014 09: 29
    +9
    Hmm, his little eyes are playful. Alya "The Blue Thief"
  8. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 24 January 2014 09: 31
    +21
    (Dmitry Medvedev: the economy is normal. But it does not please anyone ...) And how do you, Dmitry Anatolich, do not please us if you only knew! angry
    1. Letun
      Letun 24 January 2014 10: 38
      +5
      No, well, he’s also a normal prime minister, though he’s not happy with anyone =) Although not, apparently his boss is still happy.
  9. koksalek
    koksalek 24 January 2014 09: 32
    +7
    Sad for Medvedev, he is so used to wearing pink glasses that he never wants to take them off, it’s time for a doctor already
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 24 January 2014 10: 57
      +2
      YES, DAM, as always, anneals-even snot could not chew.
  10. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 24 January 2014 09: 34
    +6
    something pedrosnya is silent ... although there everything is the same
  11. igor351
    igor351 24 January 2014 09: 34
    +4
    What came upon a person - he reported to his superiors, well, expressed in general words and terms. Few of you have reported to your superiors so?
  12. Alex66
    Alex66 24 January 2014 09: 40
    +8
    "She does not please me, she, of course, does not please the President, she does not please those who are engaged in this."
    All those who are engaged in this, it’s time for you to step aside and say that you don’t understand shit or do not decide anything in the economy, then it’s not clear what we pay you and we listen to your nonsense.
  13. onegin61
    onegin61 24 January 2014 09: 56
    +8
    What gentlemen are talking about, the wick is the wick (dummy) and Putin is holding it so that there is not much contrast with himself and there is someone to blame, although it's time to give both under the knee, so the others are even worse.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 24 January 2014 11: 49
      +3
      Yes, do not spread nonsense, but others worse ,, in the country you can always find sensible patriots. Only who will allow them to power.
  14. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 24 January 2014 09: 57
    +11
    Does Putin need a charismatic, independent, smart prime minister? And so in the arena the White Clown is a funny, ridiculous capricious "smart guy".
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    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 24 January 2014 10: 44
      +1
      No, not easy! Rows of Babos rowing ...
      1. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 24 January 2014 16: 50
        0
        No, not easy! Rows of Babos rowing ...
        the fact of the matter is that it's not stupid @ k. I could have done a lot for the country. But apparently the "student" broke down from the enormous powers and now does only what you said.
  16. Farvil
    Farvil 24 January 2014 10: 34
    +6
    This character is just a clown, except for irritation and contempt does not cause anything, he is sick of him and his partner in tandem.
  17. Bepdukt
    Bepdukt 24 January 2014 10: 39
    +6
    Vladimir Putin begin to be friends with the people-otherwise Maidan for you will be happy.
  18. svp67
    svp67 24 January 2014 11: 01
    +3
    Dmitry Medvedev: the economy is normal, but it does not please anyone
  19. demel2
    demel2 24 January 2014 11: 13
    +8
    This character doesn’t cause anything but hatred. But a lot of jackals, the so-called liberals, have already gathered around this insignificance. So it’s not easy to expel him and this bunch of bastards. .IMHO this homeland will sell much faster.
  20. SPLV
    SPLV 24 January 2014 11: 19
    +4
    According to the unemployment rate among youth, Russia today is approximately 2 times higher than the world average.

    I don’t know where the author has such data, but from the Eastern European (Poles, former Yugoslavs) neighbors I heard that their youth does not want to work at all, it often happens that a man of 50 years old feeds a couple of "kids" of 20 25-30 - those do not want to work, they, like our children, liberals shit their heads with fairy tales about managers. Everyone wants to be bosses, do nothing and get a million.
    the economy is normal, but it pleases no one

    I remembered: "Are you staying with us for a long time?" "For a long time, but I'm leaving soon." I just want to say - but leave, perhaps dear! And take your friends with you. All of our own.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 24 January 2014 18: 56
      +1
      Quote: SPLV
      I remembered: "Are you staying with us for a long time?" "For a long time, but I'm leaving soon."

      And here's another saying: "Come to visit us, I'll put the samovar, and you leave, we'll drink tea!"
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  21. melkar
    melkar 24 January 2014 11: 25
    +2
    second edition Gorbachev
  22. demel2
    demel2 24 January 2014 11: 26
    +2
    Already one heading of the article suggests that this person has a place in the madhouse and not in the government. For which God and the guarantor punish us with such prime ministers at such a difficult time.
  23. polkownik1
    polkownik1 24 January 2014 11: 28
    +2
    Complete unsuitability - clearly long ago; inadequacy - it is impossible to hide; unsinkability - mocking from the point of view of logic, common sense and attitude to one’s own Fatherland!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 24 January 2014 19: 00
      +1
      Quote: polkownik1
      Complete unsuitability - clearly long ago;

      Medvedev is like a suitcase without a handle for Putin: it’s hard to carry and it’s a pity to throw it away!
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  24. onegin61
    onegin61 24 January 2014 11: 47
    +2
    Putin keeps fools around him so that he doesn’t seem like that. It’s like a child was given a big complicated toy, but he doesn’t know what to do with it, everything in the government, one press conference of Siluanov and Golikova’s worth, they prompted each other like two-man team, not learned a lesson.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 24 January 2014 12: 13
      0
      I would not say that Putin is only doing what he is trying to seem.
      There is certainly a bunch of watered-up PR, which is already tired, but that's what politics is. It’s better to let it fly on fighter jets than a member sucks like Obama.
  25. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 24 January 2014 11: 52
    +5
    <<< "It (the Russian economy) does not make me happy, (Medvedev), of course, it does not please the President, it does not please those who are engaged in this." >>>
    And the Russian society is not "gladdened by those who are engaged in the Russian economy" - libesral market economists, and they have not been "gladdened" for a long time! IM would (led by the interviewee) understand this, that the problems of the Russian economy are that they are being run by them and leave in an amicable way, but it seems that they grabbed the body of Russia like a tick and, ... only by tearing off this muck and crushing it, one can count on the fact that the Russian economy will finally start to please society!
  26. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 24 January 2014 12: 11
    +2
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Medvedev, stsuka, as in a parallel reality lives

    Why how? laughing
  27. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 24 January 2014 12: 27
    +2
    Dmitry M. is normal, but he does not please anyone.)
  28. calocha
    calocha 24 January 2014 13: 02
    +1
    If Putin wanted to, then he would have handed over the country long ago. Here is something else, but that's what?!?! I think Medvedev is beneficial to him as a "lightning rod" and as a "opener" (a mishandled cossack (his player in a foreign team)) so that the scout's skills are not lost ...)))
  29. vkrav
    vkrav 24 January 2014 13: 29
    +3
    Dmitry Medvedev: the economy is normal, but it does not please anyone

    "My spelling is lame! It's good, but it's lame" (c) Winnie the Pooh
  30. Sars
    Sars 24 January 2014 13: 57
    +3
    Take this srul away!
  31. bubla5
    bubla5 24 January 2014 14: 06
    +1
    the economy is normal, but it pleases no one
    Only a person far from intellectual values ​​could say that.
  32. moremansf
    moremansf 24 January 2014 14: 35
    +1
    Unlucky, so unlucky ...
  33. sinukvl
    sinukvl 24 January 2014 14: 58
    +3
    Medvedev said as usual, said so. "The economy is normal, but nobody's happy about it."
    that is, following his logic, an abnormal economy will please him, so what?
    In general, following the normal human logic, if the economy "pleases no one" then it is not normal.
  34. Azaat
    Azaat 24 January 2014 15: 05
    +2
    Oh, I feel he will enter Earth orbit after the Olympic Games.
  35. ABV
    ABV 24 January 2014 16: 08
    +1
    Quote: predator.3
    The man who sat at the post-graduate student near Sobchak, then ran around St. Petersburg glued leaflets calling to vote for entogo Sobchak, worked as a referent, checking legal documents, then a man who didn’t manage, not just the region, but the district, was hanging around in the Kremlin, suddenly becoming the president of Russia then prime minister. fool Well, complete absurdity!


    But in order to manage even a mover brigade, experience, skills and abilities are needed ... not only that country!
  36. malikszh
    malikszh 24 January 2014 16: 22
    +4
    Guys, We have a dream in Kazakhstan - we need at least Russian democracy. You have the third president. And ours has been reigning for 20 years, sitting like Brezhnev. We do not produce anything, we buy everything from Turks, Russians, Chinese. All deposits are sold to foreigners. Corruption is everywhere
    1. Volodin
      24 January 2014 16: 47
      +1
      Malik, oh, I do not envy you - now your compatriots will come and deprive you of all the ranks and regalia for such words smile
      1. malikszh
        malikszh 24 January 2014 18: 49
        +2
        I will run to Russia wink
        1. Power
          Power 24 January 2014 19: 37
          0
          Fake Christmas tree toys appeared in the store. They stand like real, look like real - only there is no joy from them. We seem to have everything for real too: private property, the president, the army and even the ruble exchange rate are reporting the thicket of the weather, so the games of patriots are coming soon. Only all this does not work and is arranged not for people, but for their own ambitions of their beloved, and a handful of lackeys who have stuck to the "pipe".
  37. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 24 January 2014 19: 30
    +1
    Professionals and not lawyers should be involved in the economy, I was convinced of this and every day faith only grows stronger. I can see better from the cellar, but no one hears. For some reason I find myself in great demand in the elections.
  38. delfinN
    delfinN 24 January 2014 19: 36
    +4

    it’s like that
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 24 January 2014 23: 23
      0
      how many loafers in Russia ...
  39. konvalval
    konvalval 24 January 2014 21: 49
    +1
    Quote: oracul
    If you evaluate all the initiatives of DAM for its presidency and prime minister, it should be recognized that almost all of them are unsuccessful. The main ability of DAM is to puff out their cheeks and to chatter any idea.

    Not "unsuccessful", but stupid and very harmful: changing the clock, not a business nightmare, rewarding a hunchback, whom even the grave will not fix, etc., etc., are innumerable to them.
  40. PValery53
    PValery53 25 January 2014 00: 09
    0
    For the role of an extras to shovel rowing loot - not everyone is given this! - You must have talent!
  41. I think so
    I think so 25 January 2014 22: 24
    0
    Question - And who else can such a m..ka hold the prime minister? Answer - The same m..k ...
  42. smart ass
    smart ass 27 January 2014 14: 55
    0
    The number of individual entrepreneurs who closed their businesses since the beginning of this year has reached 531,9 thousand, according to statistics from the Federal Tax Service. The decision to stop work was also made by 18,2 thousand farmers. As of June 1, the number of entrepreneurs and farms decreased to 2,636 million; as of January 1, there were more than 4 million.
    According to estimates by Business Russia, in 2012 alone, the budget lost 13,5 billion rubles in taxes to closed entrepreneurs, while it was additionally planned to receive 5,1 billion rubles.

    That is, net budget losses - 8,4 billion rubles, according to the organization.

    A significant increase in the number of those who decided to close the business began to increase since December last year. Then about 120 thousand FE were liquidated in a month. Entrepreneurs themselves attribute this to the government’s decision to increase insurance premiums for the self-employed almost doubled from 2013 to 35 thousand rubles (from 2 minimum wages), of which about 32,5 thousand are paid to the Pension Fund, and to the Compulsory Health Insurance Fund - 3185 rubles.

    Where does the economy come from if the government shoots off IPers>?
  43. Pancreas
    Pancreas 27 January 2014 16: 31
    0
    A person does not think where he says, he says where is the logic? Today is one thing, tomorrow is another ... A disgusting opportunist. Tired of his stupid tales. fool