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Serbia has become a "reliable partner" of the West

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Negotiations have begun between the EU and Belgrade on the entry of Serbia into the European Union. Officials from the European Commission are confident that a plan to fulfill the first conditions for joining the EU will be prepared by the Serbs by the end of this year. European Commissioner for Enlargement and Neighborhood Policy Stefan Fule in Brussels explained the day before that the main focus of the 2014 year will be on preparing for the opening of the chapters of the 23 and 24 EU accession treaty. These chapters deal with reforms in the field of justice, rights, freedoms and security. In reality, all this is nothing more than a democratic “talker”. The real purpose for which Serbia is being drawn into the EU (and it is not at all necessary that the result of the “negotiations” will be its admission to the union) is the final “divorce” of parts of the former Yugoslavia. The most important point for Brussels is not some kind of “rights” (non-citizens live in Latvia), but the fate of Kosovo.



You never know what the European Commissioner said beforehand! That's what said Serbian Deputy Prime Minister Vucic: "We will finish everything that depends on us, by 2018, and then we are not free to decide whether we will be in the EU by the 2020 year." He added that the focus of the talks "will be paid to the head of 35, dedicated to Kosovo." He clarified that “no one knows how exactly the head of 35 will look, some things may arise suddenly, and not everything will be easy.” This, Anna Filimonova writes (“The Fund of Strategic Culture”), somewhat resembles a formula that was common in the West at the end of 1990: “Specific conditions are not so important, the Serbs just have to cease to exist”.

Serbian Prime Minister I. Dacic was also quite frank. According to him, Brussels went to negotiations with Serbia "not because Serbia carried out some fantastic reforms, but because of the progress in relations with Pristina." Dacic warns that “if Serbia had not reached an agreement with Pristina, there would have been no negotiations with the EU, and if we only stumble on this path, both negotiations will be stopped - we must clearly understand this”.

Well, Mr. Füle, and you say - rights and freedoms ... Actually, later that day, apparently, in order not to seem demagogue, Füle said: "The key factor was the readiness of the Serbian authorities to normalize relations with Pristina." His words spread many media. The West seems to be playing openly now. Frankly behave and the statesmen of Serbia. Ivica Dacic stated at a press conference in Brussels in general: "I think that today is the most important day for Serbia since the end of the Second World War."

Anna Filimonova writes:

“The frankness of the Serbian prime minister leaves no room for interpretations: transferring the province of Kosovo and Metohija to the“ Republic of Kosovo ”, consent to the integration of the Serb-populated north of the region into the Pristina regime’s power system, the establishment of the state border that cut Cosmet from central Serbia - this is the price paid for the opportunity endlessly negotiate with Brussels, fulfilling one after another the humiliating, destructive for the country requirements of the EU. Negotiations, the outcome of which is likely to be that Serbia will never enter the European Union, since the European Union simply does not have the financial means required for this. Nevertheless, the West throws a bone to the Serbs, starting negotiations with them, and in exchange requires the victim to agree to a full, final, legally enforced rejection of part of the Serbian territory. One can hardly doubt that Western champions of democracy and human rights, having the opportunity to control the fate of the Serbian people, will not know mercy towards this Slavic alien to the West. ”


The sad experience of the countries of Eastern Europe shows that there are no advantages from joining the EU, and it is difficult to count the minuses, the analyst summarizes.

What does the EU offer Serbia, what kind of gingerbread lure? And how is the Serbian people disposed about this issue? And the deputies? Let's look through the media.

Alexey Kornilov, own correspondent "Parliamentary newspaper" in Belgrade, quoted by Vucic, spoken to those in Brussels. Mr Vucic called the results of the Serbian-EU intergovernmental conference a “good moment” on Belgrade’s path to the European Union and said: “Serbia is now seen as a reliable partner, and we must use this situation to ensure a better life for its citizens.”

Not all Serbian politicians agreed with this “good moment.” The fate of a “reliable partner” is not to the liking, for example, of Voislav Kostunica, the chairman of the opposition Democratic Party of Serbia.

He said that the decision to start negotiations with the EU is “irrational” and suggested holding a referendum on this issue. In his opinion, Serbia will receive only economic losses from European integration. There is no logical reason why Belgrade should continue its rapprochement with Brussels. The DPS leader emphasized that Serbia is facing “unpleasant” conditions for the EU with regard to the province of Kosovo and the next steps aimed at “erasing” the national identity of the Serbs.

The government is waiting for help from the EU - of course, economic. Simply put, money. And waiting for jobs for the Serbs. The country is characterized by massive unemployment - according to various sources, it has reached 30%. There are depressing data on young people - half of the able-bodied young people cannot find work. This information is hardly accurate, because many unemployed people are not registered. That is actually still worse. Finally, in Serbia, extremely low salaries - they are difficult to live on. The average salary does not reach Euro 400 per month. Of course, the EU countries (Western) look attractive and attract Serbs. Well, and other problems of Serbian macroeconomics: high inflation rates (more than eight percent a year, which the EU doesn’t welcome, but Serbia’s in the EU will not be tomorrow - well, if in six years), the growth of public debt, as well as accompanying it all total corruption: a swollen Serbian bureaucratic apparatus, which is mercilessly criticized in Brussels, steeped in theft. The difficult situation is accompanied by the legacy of socialism - state enterprises. They have no money for the development of production or for modernization. There is no need to talk about acceptable profitability. The media writes that Brussels is ready to allocate to Belgrade (in the case of joining the EU, of course) about 180 million euros in the form of funds for European integration. Such a small amount is unlikely to solve the crisis. In addition, corruption, corruption ...

However, the Serbian government has no other ideas about a “bright European future” besides joining the EU. It is difficult to argue about whether it is bad or good to move towards Brussels when the country drowned in a crisis swamp and grabs any straw, just to cling to something, to remain on the surface. Kosovo is no longer a pity here - you are drowning yourself. Therefore, accession to the EU has become for the Serbian people a kind of “American dream”.

Yes, the Serbs are not at all against the road to Brussels, as other media submit, reprinting statements by some politicians about Serbia’s almost joining the Customs Union. Well, what a Customs Union, if there is no common border with Russia? We must still judge objectively and sometimes glance at the map. Besides, Serbia and Montenegro today have free trade zone with the Customs Union.

Since 2009, Serbs have the right to enter the EU Schengen zone without a visa. And this is a big plus for those who want to work in Europe. Many for this reason alone support the idea of ​​Serbia joining the EU.

Recently, the Serbian magazine “Nova srpska politicka Misao” (“New Serbian Political Thought”) published the results of a population survey conducted from December 24 2013 to January 5 2014. True, the author of the journal, George Vukadinovich, called these results "schizoid," notes IA "REX".

54,4% of Serbians support the Serbian accession project. So, more than half. But at the same time, 66,2% support the “union with Russia”. There was a questionnaire and clarifying the direct question of the choice between the EU and Russia. The Serbs answered this way: 30,0% - for Russia, 17,4% - for the EU, for “equally good relations with the EU and with Russia” - 44,2%. The latter is a bit like Ukraine, isn't it?

Well, about Kosovo. The recognition of independence by the Serbian authorities in the spring of 2013 rejected as a condition for the beginning of the Serbian accession process to the EU 67,7% is rejected, only 22,4% agree with this condition.

To this we must add that the EU does not at all claim that Serbia should immediately recognize the independence of Kosovo. So here the will of the Serbian people seems to be not violated. And yet everyone understands where the West is headed ...

As for the opinion of the Serbian people, the new poll only confirmed the desire of a fairly large part of the Serbian people (the majority) to integrate with the EU. Last fall, the same magazine conducted a survey, the results of which almost coincided with the results of the winter survey.

November 22 on RIA News" a note was published by the correspondent Nikolai Sokolov, in which he cited the results of a sociological survey conducted by the political science journal New Serbian Political Thought.

67,5% of respondents were in favor of an alliance with Russia, 18,2% were against - 14,3% found it difficult to answer. Entry into the EU was supported by 53,7% of the surveyed Serbian citizens, against 31,1%. Another 15,2% found it difficult to answer. During the study, conducted from 1 to October 15, 1,1 thousand people were surveyed in various areas of Serbia, except Kosovo.

There are, however, other polls, the participants of which spoke in favor of Serbia joining the EU more clearly. One of these polls is indicated by a Serbian resource. "Serbia.info".

More than 67% of Serbian citizens approve of the country's possible accession to the European Union - this is evidenced by the results of a survey conducted by the influential sociological agency "Scan" from the city of Novi Sad in the period from November 24 to December 3 (1700 adult citizens were polled).

The study also showed that NATO has a negative image in the minds of 75% of respondents, and only 4% of survey participants speak positively of the Alliance.

At the same time, it turned out that the Serbian Orthodox Church enjoys the greatest degree of trust among various institutions of society, while the parliament and the government have the least confidence. The Serbs have criticized the legislative and executive authorities for their slowness in decision-making, lack of organization, and inefficiency.

It must be assumed that the Serbian government, which has intensified its negotiations with the EU in the autumn and winter, is doing everything possible so that it is not thought of as sluggish and ineffective. State officials are in a hurry.

As reported by 21 January correspondent RIA "News" Nikolay SokolovSerbian Prime Minister Ivica Dacic made a statement in which he said that Serbia asks European partners not to put up “false obstacles” to impede the negotiation process.

“We are ready for difficult negotiations and will even be surprised if it will be easy for us. We do not expect any privileges or benefits. But we hope that we will not be exposed to false obstacles and any moving targets or conditions that will change every year, ”said Dacic in Brussels.

Dacic also noted that Serbia is ready to continue the process of normalizing relations with Kosovo. According to him, at the talks in Brussels no one asked the Serbian authorities to recognize Kosovo: this topic was not discussed at all.

As transmits "Euronews", Ivica Dacic expressed the hope that the negotiation process, which usually takes years for a candidate country before 10, will be completed by the year of 2020.

As for the "moving targets or conditions," those, of course, will be. For the next six years, Kosovo will become the “moving target”. Something will happen there, as a result of which Brussels will recommend Belgrade to recognize the independence of the region. Someone, and Dachich should understand about Kosovo. He is, after all, a native of Kosovo ...

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  1. Max otto
    Max otto 24 January 2014 09: 22
    0
    If this EU would not hold Serbia for Kosovo, then probably they would go to this Europe.
    1. Canep
      Canep 24 January 2014 10: 39
      +5
      Here are the allies, here are the fraternal people. Like: - "nothing personally, just business."
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 12: 32
        +2
        Quote: Canep
        Here are the allies, here are the brotherly people

        so always have we been brother Ears when they excuse me ..

        and then Hitler will come to visit then NATO will break the race
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 12: 32
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        Quote: Canep
        Here are the allies, here are the brotherly people

        so always have we been brother Ears when they excuse me ..

        and then Hitler will come to visit then NATO will break the race
      3. AVV
        AVV 24 January 2014 13: 43
        0
        The West needs to completely ruin Yugoslavia so that they would not even be able to think about returning Kosovo, and even further away from Russia !!!
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 12: 29
      +2
      If this EU ...
      if the Serbs led the Serbs as in the 40s, then no one would have kept them for nothing, first they handed over Milosevic and many others, and after that they just asked for EU help.
      1. smile
        smile 24 January 2014 20: 47
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        Vasilenko Vladimir
        And even earlier, Milosevic surrendered to Serbian Krajina ... here, as in a saying - someone's bogged down - there’s an abyss for the whole bird ...
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    4. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 January 2014 13: 20
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      Quote: Max Otto
      If this EU would not hold Serbia for Kosovo, then probably they would go to this Europe.

      What naivety ... Serbs consider themselves Europeans, for them, joining the European Union is taken for granted.
      1. smile
        smile 24 January 2014 21: 04
        +4
        Nayhas
        From conversations with a couple of Serbs (I have no other personal experience), I found out for myself that far from all Serbs take for granted the entry into the organization involved in the organization of the Civil War in Yugoslavia, into the disintegration of Serbia into pieces, organized by them the genocide of the Serbian population in Kosovo and not only ... Many, very many Serbs will never forgive the Europeans and Americans for the Albanian cannibals, bombs, missiles and again wings with crosses over Serbia ...

        To be honest, the communication surprised me very much. It seemed that now give up the cry to return Kosovo and fight with the European invaders, including with the Serbian traitors - do not hesitate to stand in line .... although they are quite successful people with a good income. The woman said so. In general, she was very excited and cursed with bad words, on her own ... and I believed her, forgive me for the boast, but I rarely make a mistake when I evaluate - a person is really capable of something, or just drives ... She’s thirty, her sister, a soldier, died in Kosovo with arms in her hands - she didn’t want to fall into Albanians ... so that not all Serbs are the same - we also should not be judged by the marshes - you will be mistaken.
  2. Orel
    Orel 24 January 2014 09: 45
    +2
    The "brothers" threw us. However, as always.
    1. ddmm09
      ddmm09 24 January 2014 10: 14
      +3
      Let's hope that time will put everything in its place and the Serbs will soberly appreciate the essence of European pseudo-culture. Rejection of their values ​​will be only for the good. Although for them it will be a difficult decision.
    2. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 24 January 2014 11: 44
      +7
      The idea of ​​"fraternal" Slavic peoples was invented during the war of 1877-78. In general, we not only fought with the Turks, but liberated the "fraternal" Slavic peoples from Turkish oppression, as it was said - "The war for the liberation of the Slavs." Undoubtedly, there was oppression, there was liberation, these peoples rejoiced and were mostly grateful for it. But no one is in a hurry to recognize themselves as brothers, and even younger, moreover, no one is particularly opposed to fighting against Russia on occasion. So, in fact, these "brothers" are not brothers at all, they are echoes of the propaganda support of the old war. I would not be surprised if the modern population thinks that in fact they have always been free, as they are now, well, maybe they were a little oppressed by the Turks, but there was order, everyone drank Turkish beer and ate Istanbul sausages. Therefore, Russia's claims to certain merits, gratitude and influence are an open encroachment on the natural rights and freedoms of peoples, descriptions of the horrors of Turkish oppression are vile propaganda of the Kremlin, and all together smacks of compensation for the occupation since the time of the tsar. I think everyone watched the movie "Brother", there is an exact scene. So far, all is well, the "brothers" are happy to ride the tram for free and have fun sending the controller, but as soon as life becomes not as pleasant as it was just now, everyone sharply remembers brotherhood and friendship. In theory, such "brothers" should be answered with the words of the protagonist, and thrown out of the tram after paying.
      1. smile
        smile 24 January 2014 21: 24
        +1
        chunga-changa
        You know, I myself am rather skeptical about the slogans about "brothers", and you are right in many ways ... But in many ways and wrong .... How to relate to the fact that among the Serbs and Bulgarians (especially to them, given the relationship of our countries in the 20th century) are there really a lot of people who treat us like brothers, and gratefully remember that we saved them repeatedly? But there are more of them there than, for example, in Georgia and in some other republics of the Union.
        I correspond with our Bulgarian counterpart under the name Bagatur. So he is a greater Russian patriot than many of our compatriots. And take my word for it, there are practically no such people who speak of Turkish beer. Only in Bulgaria there is a small party, which Nikolai viciously contemptuously (Nikolai, I'm sorry) calls - the Turks. And such people should not be repelled.
    3. sssla
      sssla 24 January 2014 11: 49
      0
      Quote: Orel
      The "brothers" threw us. However, as always.
      Well, when the NATO bombed Yugoslavia, the big brothers rushed to help! The people were indignant and the part of the body that was responsible for delivering pain to the enemy was inactive except for one eyebrow that captured the airfield. That's the help. That's the faith in the answer. It’s necessary to remove the w .... who have both their own and brotherly people put loyal to the people of Gos figures and not state saw cutters
      1. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 24 January 2014 11: 51
        +6
        Quote: sssla
        Well, when the NATO bombed Yugoslavia, the big brothers rushed to help!

        And should have?
        earlier on the topic of Yugoslavia already wrote therefore I repeat:
        " velikoros-88  September 25, 2013 11:10 | Serbia: instead of the EU - to the Customs Union?

        In 1999 I had an unambiguously Slavic position on the Yugoslav events. Later, after working and having a lot of conversations with the Serbs in the Russian south (the company "Putevi Group Uzice" changed his views somewhat. Most Serbs are rather sluggish about the events in Kosovo, no, they certainly want Serbian Kosovo as part of Serbia, but they want something strange, with someone else's hands The 2008 presidential elections marked the position of ordinary Serbs - integration into the European Union with the pro-European president Tadic, and not at all building close relations with Russia under the pro-Russian president Nikolic. first of all about our people. We have no friends or brothers, but we have our own people tortured by reforms. The Serbs made their voluntary choice, it's time to understand this and leave them alone with their choice. "
  3. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 24 January 2014 11: 58
    +7
    For all the highly controversial and controversial policy of Marshal Tito, the JNA was much like the Soviet Army and carried the same shortcomings. Quite numerous (the fourth largest army in Europe!), Equipped with sufficiently modern weapons at that time (Yugoslavia almost completely armed itself), well prepared JNA when the collapse of the state began, it turned out to be practically helpless during the "Ten-day war" in Slovenia and the "war of barracks "in Croatia against rather relatively weakly armed separatist detachments. Yes, politicians are also largely to blame, but the generals are also largely to blame, who failed to prepare the army for the requirements of hostilities (similarly, in our country: Chechnya-1994, the introduction of troops and the New Year's assault on Grozny). And during the Kosovo war, the bulk of Serbian generals, taught by bitter experience (the Serbian Krajina was already betrayed in Croatia, the Dayton agreements were signed, Karadzic and Mladic were declared war criminals and wanted) simply tried to save their troops and soldiers' lives. Yes, the Air Force and Air Defense fought heroically and with self-sacrifice. Yes, the Serbs managed to overwhelm the invisibility. Yes, the pilots took off suicidal on a MiG-29 with a faulty avionics, knowing in advance that they would be shot down. Yes, there was a fiery ram of Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Zhivota Djuric, who in his battered J-22 Orao crashed into a cluster of Albanian militants. But the main part of the army hid and waited for how everything would end, and then disciplinedly withdrew from Kosovo, and then also disciplinedly surrendered Milosevic, allowed Yugoslavia to finally collapse, and calmly went to retire, knowing that they, like Ratko Mladich, were not threatened by the Hague ... .And this despite the fact that the Yugoslav army has lost from NATO bombing ONLY 1 (ONE) PERCENTAGE !!! their armored vehicles.
    Despite the fact that the JNA retained mainly its military equipment, the losses except for the Air Force and Air Defense were minimal, this did not change anything. The troops were withdrawn, Kosovo declared independence, Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic were sold, Montenegro left and only Serbia was left without access to the sea and Kosovo, and the rescued military equipment was then cut by the "democrats", led by Zoran Djindjic (Serbian Gaidar), under the pretext of reducing defense spending.

    tails of the Yugoslavian MiG-21s destroyed under the treaty, Batainitsa airbase, laid out for recounting by Western "observers"
  4. Belogor
    Belogor 24 January 2014 12: 34
    0
    The claw is stuck, the bird (Serbia) is missing. "Democratic values" is akin to a quagmire, if you get there, then the khan.
  5. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 24 January 2014 12: 39
    -2
    Quote: Orel
    The "brothers" threw us. However, as always.

    Russia also threw them, although we were very weak, and the drunken EBC ruled.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: shtanko.49
      Russia them too

      Yes Yes
      Russia owes everything to everyone, at first some from the Ottomans, and in gratitude they are first with Hitler for us and then in NATO at the earliest opportunity, and others are no better
  6. mountain
    mountain 24 January 2014 12: 54
    0
    There was a country, Yugoslavia, and now fragments from UN bombing. It is a pity for the country, a pity for the people, but the strongest, thorny path survives chose for itself, Serbia.
    1. waisson
      waisson 24 January 2014 19: 10
      -1
      there was once a powerful state of the USSR which was feared and reckoned with. and now? the Serbian people and the government are two different things like ours. to our CARRYING CAPITAL what is going on in the hinterland of the people’s soul and in the country is the same in Serbia
  7. hitech
    hitech 24 January 2014 13: 05
    0
    Quote: sssla
    Quote: Orel
    The "brothers" threw us. However, as always.
    Well, when the NATO bombed Yugoslavia, the big brothers rushed to help! The people were indignant and the part of the body that was responsible for delivering pain to the enemy was inactive except for one eyebrow that captured the airfield. That's the help. That's the faith in the answer. It’s necessary to remove the w .... who have both their own and brotherly people put loyal to the people of Gos figures and not state saw cutters

    You would still remember the time when Gorbachev "sharpened his fringes" about consensus. Yeltsin was not interested in anything except for the collar. But to tell the truth, at that time all and sundry were wiping their feet about us.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 January 2014 13: 28
      +2
      Quote: hitech
      You would still remember the time when Gorbachev "sharpened his fringes" about consensus. Yeltsin was not interested in anything except for the collar. But to tell the truth, at that time all and sundry were wiping their feet about us.

      The so-called "Serbian brothers" in 1991. shot journalists of the central television of the USSR, which is still silent.
  8. knn54
    knn54 24 January 2014 15: 51
    0
    So the Serbian "elite" gives its people to the neoliberal fascism.
    And then, about 400 thousand Hungarians live in Serbian Vojvodina, more than 200 thousand Muslim Slavs live in Sandzak, and up to 60 thousand Albanians in the Presevo valley. And in order to "expand the possibilities of the market economy", the admission of foreigners to the most tasty morsels: to industrial enterprises, banks ...
  9. Beck
    Beck 24 January 2014 17: 11
    -4
    Yes. The mess went out among the Uroshniks. All spoke NATO, the West, the Masons. And Serbia, having got rid of Milosevic who could not find political paths, but started a war, is all the same.

    The question of course is - Why? But there are many answers to it and everyone has the right one.
  10. Walking
    Walking 24 January 2014 17: 27
    +1
    Serbia directly spreads under the EU, is ready to lick anything if only they were accepted, maybe soon we will hear how they begin to mock towards Russia to please the West.
  11. Thomas
    Thomas 24 January 2014 17: 58
    +2
    Quote: Orel
    The "brothers" threw us. However, as always.


    No need to flog a fever. I have worked in this country for several years, and I can tell you that I have not met such a sympathetic people, although I have under my belt about two dozen countries. They love Russians and Russia, they consider them brothers. Moreover, they do not particularly distinguish between Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. For them, it's all Russians. When they find out, then you are Russian, 9 out of 10 spread into a smile. They even have this proverb: "With Russia we are 150 million, and without Russia, half a truck." They remember and respect Old Man (Lukashenko), who during the bombings stood with the inhabitants of Belgrade on the bridge as a human shield.
    There are simply people, and there is a government. And these are two big differences. People have not forgotten about the NATO bombing, nor about Sheshel, who has been unprovenly tried in the Hague for several years, nor much more.
    As for Serbia, as a state, they now have no choice. The country is surrounded on all sides by EU members and those wishing to join there. Without a free trade zone with neighbors, the economy will collapse.
    Russia is far away, but somehow it is necessary to live. But believe me, these people are worth a lot. And what I saw there is now trying to crank in Ukraine. The analogies are traced:
    Ukraine - Western Ukraine - one language, two faiths (Orthodox and Greek Catholics). Zapadentsev do not like the same Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine, not to mention the Russians.
    As my good friend likes to say: "Some have a pinched testicle complex there." It always seems to them that the mscal is about to come and take away freedom.

    Serbia - Croatia - one language (no matter how sophisticated the Croatian linguists are), two faiths (Orthodox and Catholics). Croats do not like Serbs (and many simply hate them) - too little time has passed since the wars. One nation was once divided by faith, not so long ago, they knocked their heads together and pulled apart. The Divide et impera principle is in action.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 18: 33
      0
      Quote: Thomas
      As for Serbia, as a state, they now have no choice. The country is surrounded on all sides by EU members and those wishing to join

      and when they were surrounded by the Reich and did not give up
    2. waisson
      waisson 24 January 2014 19: 16
      0
      but they write and wrote some in Cyrillic and others in Latin
  12. Thomas
    Thomas 24 January 2014 18: 11
    0
    Yes, and this complex is also present among Croats. Moreover, in excess
  13. Thomas
    Thomas 24 January 2014 18: 43
    +1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and when they were surrounded by the Reich and did not give up


    Would you like to live in a state of siege?
    And people survived the 2 war, and now they are still raking in Kosovo.
    In addition, they also want to tear Vojvodina from Belgrade.
    Believe me, everything is there - not so sweet.
    The main industry - in Kragujevec, and barely survives.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 19: 03
      +1
      Quote: Thomas
      Would you like to live in a state of siege?

      sorry question stupid of course I would not like
      Quote: Thomas
      And people survived 2 wars, and now they are still raking in Kosovo

      So what? was this a reason for you to transfer the country's patriots to the Hague?
      Quote: Thomas
      Believe me, everything is there - not so sweet.

      believe
      Quote: Thomas
      In addition, they also want to tear Vojvodina from Belgrade
      and at the same time they are eager for the EU
  14. Ihrek
    Ihrek 24 January 2014 19: 30
    0
    Serbia so much wants in the EU as if it was smeared with honey, and at the same time pretending that there were no bombings from the west that destroyed Belgrade, the country's economy, and finally the country itself. And how many people died. They handed over Milosevic and many other patriots of the country. And while almost on their knees they are not begging to accept the EU. Someone like, but for me, excuse me, this country does not cause any respect.
  15. alone
    alone 24 January 2014 20: 34
    +1
    )) All this is not surprising. Serbia is in the middle of Europe. Once we already wanted to be with Russia. But the EBN did everything to prevent this from happening. The Serbs have no other choice, They won’t be able to withstand the second blow.
  16. shelva
    shelva 24 January 2014 23: 23
    0
    They do not like the Slavs in Europe. At first they lower it below the baseboard and then ten more years they wander - accept, not accept. Here is such a sight for Ukraine.
    If the poor Balts in the eyes of Europe deserve to be coachmen-cooks, then the Slavs are not people for them at all - they are rebels.
  17. alicante11
    alicante11 25 January 2014 16: 40
    0
    Well, it seems that they got a loan from Russia that year. Now you can integrate into the EU again. I'm sorry ... God, damn it.
  18. Glagol
    Glagol 25 January 2014 19: 24
    -1
    The Serbs do not have much choice, they are in the center of Europe, where do you go?
    Apparently, it will be necessary to join the EU, and the conditions are already clear:
    We'll have to give part of the territory and recognize the Kosovars. In exchange -
    Free movement in Europe and, as a result, acceptable
    Unemployment and salary rates. This bag is comfortable
    All the European nations will swallow life parameters anyway -
    And there’s nothing you can do. I hope that it will be possible to leave membership in NATO.
  19. Druid
    Druid 26 January 2014 00: 02
    -1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    so always have we been brother Ears when they excuse me ..
    When it was ... oops, Russia of that time let them down the toilet, and modern Russia, recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia, finally finished it off. So really nothing personal, everyone is looking for a reliable and consistent partner, and this is not about Russia, it is not the USSR.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 26 January 2014 05: 10
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      If the Serbs themselves did not turn their tail to the west, then to the east, no one would merge them. even in EBN at the end of the 90's it was already unraveled with amers. But Milosevic could not decide. And in Europe I want and the conditions are dumb. Well, I got it. If Assad always focused on Russia, then he was not leaked. And the Armenians will not merge, do not wait :).
  20. delfinN
    delfinN 26 January 2014 05: 37
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    Do not worry so much. The development of society moves in a spiral, each turn at a higher level. A little time will pass and the Serbs will remember their roots, will again be in our sphere of influence.
  21. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 27 January 2014 08: 22
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    What did you want? They merged Yugoslavia, and now they want them to cooperate not with Europe.
  22. Cormorants
    Cormorants 27 January 2014 09: 11
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    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    Quote: Canep
    Here are the allies, here are the brotherly people

    so always have we been brother Ears when they excuse me ..

    and then Hitler will come to visit then NATO will break the race

    Serbs are the only European people who were not part of the Wehrmacht!