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To the capture of the Russian trawler in Senegal: an episode of the geopolitical struggle for Africa

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To the capture of the Russian trawler in Senegal: an episode of the geopolitical struggle for Africa

The misadventures of the crew of the Russian fishing vessel "Oleg Naydyonov", arrested on January 4 by Senegalese special forces off the coast of West Africa, seem to end not today or tomorrow. Finally, the Senegalese parliament finally got involved in resolving the issue - after the attempts of the Russian side to establish a direct dialogue with the President of the Peanut Republic (as the African country was long called) Maki Sallom ended without result. At the same time, everything still depends on how independent the Senegalese are in this matter.


The deputies of the parliament formed a special working group to solve the “problem of Naidyonov”. In their investigation, they placed particular emphasis on the international composition of the crew of the detained vessel, consisting of 62 citizens of Russia, 23 citizens of Guinea-Bissau and one citizen of Belarus. The parliamentarians stated that the conflict has a negative effect on relations with Russia and Guinea-Bissau, and invited the Minister of Fisheries and Maritime Industry Haidar al-Ali, one of the main initiators of this stories. Similarly, they cannot summon the head of state to the carpet, since Senegal, according to the constitution, is a presidential republic. Salla was simply asked to "assist" in resolving the crisis.

The new head of the Federal Agency for Fishery Ilya Shestakov ruled out the possibility of any backstage solution. As he told reporters, "the release of the Russian trawler" Oleg Naidenov "and his crew in Senegal should take place exclusively in the legal arena." At the moment, we are talking about, in particular, about making a pledge by the Murmansk shipowner Phoenix for Oleg Naydenov in the amount of 1 million dollars.

"Holy of the Pope"

According to Senegalese laws, the Minister of Fisheries and Fisheries has the right to order the seizure of vessels in the national water area, although the leaders of the Russian Fishery Agency firmly believe that Oleg Naydenov was detained in the exclusive economic zone of Guinea-Bissau. At one of the numerous video briefings, the captain of the Naidyonov, Vadim Mantorov, said that he had been visited by two Senegalese navigators who had offered to sign a paper stating that the Russian ship had only gone one mile into the Senegalese waters. The captain naturally refused.

“They are gangsters, we will continue to fight them,” said Haidar al-Ali immediately after the arrest of Naidyonov. However, he did not explain why the captain of the trawler Valery Mantorov and other crew members were beaten up during the arrest. True, the minister then somewhat reduced the intensity of his rhetoric, saying that the Russians "violated the safety of the fishing industry," and "the Senegalese fishermen must feed their families."

By origin 50-year-old El-Ali comes from Lebanon, and this explains a lot. The Lebanese community in Senegal is one of the most well-to-do; its representatives hold retail trade in their hands. 1993 is remembered by everyone for a year when, after the devaluation of the African franc that caused the collapse of the Senegalese financial system, crowds of the black poor of Dakar went to smash jewelry shops and boutiques owned by Lebanese merchants.

In a word, if you are Arab and want to make a political career in Senegal - be “holier than the Pope” in upholding the country's national interests. The piquancy of the situation is also in the fact that El-Ali moved to the post of minister from the post of head of the local "green" and the actual coordinator of the regional section of Greenpeace. The latter allowed Rosrybolovstvo to link the attack on the Naydyonov with last year’s arrest of the ecological vessel Arctic Sunrise at the Prirazlomnaya oil platform in our northern waters. The motive of the “answer to Moscow” was clear enough.

In the black list of Greenpeace

“Our report, in which“ Oleg Naidyonov ”is accused of illegal fishing off the coast of West Africa, is dated 2012. To put it mildly, it is strange to associate it with current events, ”said Khalimat Tekeyeva, Greenpeace-Russia press secretary, the other day.

In fact, nothing strange about it. The Russian fisheries department is well aware of the fact that as early as February 2012 of the year, Greenpeace introduced the trawler to its “black list”, declaring it the object of a protest action for illegal fishing in Senegalese waters. And the Arctic Sunrise was Naidyonov's main pursuer. The Greenpeace agents then inscribed the board of the Russian trawler with inscriptions in French and in English “Robbers”, “Robbery!”, Accompanying them with a pattern with a fish skeleton.

At that time, an election campaign was going on in Senegal, one of the central points of which the current president Maki Sall made "a fight against pirate ships that rob our fish resources." And no later than December 26 last year, the Greenpeace called on the Senegal government to intensify the fight against "sea poachers from Russia and Europe." Around the same days, El Ali reported that the French military aviation "Monitors Russian violators." But the Rosrybolovstvo did not react to this, since the crew of Oleg Naydenov worked quite officially.

Later, Greenpeace officially acknowledged that the Russian X-trailer of December 23 "was spotted by a French military plane." He admits with a reservation that the Greenpeace members themselves do not have any information on this issue, except for media reports.

Dictatorship of the "third force"

Haidar el-Ali has had many meetings in recent days with both Senegalese and foreign journalists. Speaking about the "poachers from the former USSR", he quite frankly let it slip about where he got this information from: "According to the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), Senegal annually loses 210 million dollars because of ships that conduct illegal fishing." It turns out that Africans are not able to calculate their own losses?

However, the minister has something obviously wrong with arithmetic. He said that the Russians would be fined 350 thousand euros (about 470 thousand dollars), then increased the penalties to 800 thousand, and recently sounded the equivalent of three million dollars. In addition, the Senegalese fishery announced claims to confiscate all the equipment and cargo of Oleg Naidenov.

What is interesting: the Senegalese press quite restrainedly covers this story, concentrating on the statements of officials and without going into details. But in informal conversations, local journalists, on condition of anonymity, confirm the version of the influence of the “third force”: either the French, or the Americans, and, most likely, both.

“Americans traditionally act with us together with the French, it would be too difficult and costly to play independent games for them,” a Senegalese correspondent told Quotidien. - And the ecology has always been a convenient tool to cut off unwanted competitors. Previously, China was accused of violating environmental standards, and now Russia, which went for “poaching”.

“In Senegal’s policy, with all the external continuity, a lot has changed after the defeat of the socialists in the elections in the 2000 year,” says Senegalese historian Barry Boubacar. “But the foundations of relations with your country were laid under the socialist presidents Leopold Senghor and Abdu Diouf, despite the fact that we were divided by the Cold War.”

Senegal, we recall, since independence in 1960, has remained in the orbit of French influence. Unlike Guinea-Bissau, which, freed from Portuguese rule only in 1974, immediately headed for rapprochement with the USSR and was soon recognized by the Central Committee of the CPSU as one of the countries of "socialist orientation." There was a political and ideological confrontation between the neighboring African states, the consequences of which, as we see, are still manifest. With all the difference in potentials, little Bissau survived, since at the local level it was supported by another neighbor, Guinea-Conakry, which in those difficult times became a strategic partner of the USSR and PRC at the same time.

And the fact that in the current situation Guineans were on the side of the Russians is not accidental. After the capture of “Oleg Naidyonov,” they detained several Senegalese fishing boats, which they would hardly have decided to do without Russia's firm position.

In Senegal itself, the first “post-socialist” President Abdullai Wade, who was still the traditional political elite (he came to power at the age of 84 years), continued to strengthen relations with Russia in various fields - from energy to the same fisheries and agriculture. In 2005, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Senegal, Sheikh Tejan Gadio, told the author of this article that in Russia the representatives of his country "are primarily interested in oil production, new technologies, Russian know-how, including in agriculture." He also spoke of the desire to “invite Russian farmers to help reform the Senegalese cattle-breeding sector.” In the latter case, it was a very serious project on dairy production, because having a large population of cattle, Senegalese are forced to import milk from Europe.

But already at that time, in Senegal itself, and among its Western partners, there were influential forces that slowed down the implementation of joint projects with our country. With the coming to power of the “environmentally-friendly” Maki Salla, all of this seemed completely forgotten.

A blessing in disguise?

However, the current conflict around the Russian trawler seems to have pushed former supporters of cooperation with Moscow to be more active. While “Rosrybolovstvo” found out the fate of our compatriots, the veterinary services of Senegal unexpectedly turned to the Russian authorities, who, together with their Ugandan colleagues, were asked to contribute to the access of fish processing enterprises of their countries to the Customs Union market (Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus). In the case of landlocked Uganda, we are talking about lake fishing. “We will conduct an inspection, because we need fish products. Normal business relations will contribute to the improvement of the situation in the areas of catch, ”Alexey Alekseenko, assistant to the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor, told reporters.

According to him, the establishment of the supply of African fish products will help to get away from the monopoly dependence on other countries, "because we are very burned with Norway." Alekseenko explained that our northern neighbor, significantly increasing the volume of deliveries to Russia, still does not allow itself the inspection of the Rosselkhoznadzor to inspect objects of interest. And this is despite the fact that Russia is leading among the importers of Norwegian fish.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 23 January 2014 08: 26
    +5
    "Later, Greenpeace officially admits that the Russian trawler on December 23" was spotted by a French military aircraft. "

    Access Greenpeace with the data of the French military is simply touching.
    1. Romn
      Romn 23 January 2014 09: 03
      +19
      Send to the shores of this great country, under the nickname Senegal, all fishing vessels of Russia, accompanied by warships and any ship approaching our ships approaching to perceive as attacking and destroy on the way. At the same time, destroy all ships under the auspices of Greenpeace, it is still a corrupt organization pursuing only the vile political interests of the most democratic countries.
      Our main mistake was to capture the Greenpeace ship when they stormed our oil production platform, it was necessary to give the sailors on our border ship to practice target shooting ...
      Sorry for so many sharp fantasies, but they have already shocked and fear the fear! angry
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 23 January 2014 09: 41
        +1
        To the capture of the Russian trawler in Senegal: an episode of the geopolitical struggle for Africa


        Well, more, it looks like a common desire to cut down on a light BABLA and no politics, just business /
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 23 January 2014 15: 48
          +4
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          To the capture of the Russian trawler in Senegal: an episode of the geopolitical struggle for Africa


          Well, more, it looks like a common desire to cut down on a light BABLA and no politics, just business /


          For such an action there is a clear name - pirate. Purely my opinion, those black special forces should be identified, a criminal record be brought against them under piracy and declared internationally wanted ...
          1. luka095
            luka095 24 January 2014 00: 03
            0
            A good idea. It would still be realized ...
      2. Canep
        Canep 23 January 2014 10: 05
        +5
        Quote: Romn
        Our main mistake was to capture the Greenpeace ship when they stormed our oil production platform, it was necessary to give the sailors on our border ship to practice target shooting ...

        I think if something like this is repeated in our waters, then the border guards will be able to practice shooting, as Greenpeace workers will not want to go to the Murmansk pre-trial detention center, have heard enough, and will begin to flee.
        1. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 23 January 2014 13: 53
          +5
          it's time to just adopt the technique of sworn friends. sanctions, blockade and cruise missiles
      3. knn54
        knn54 23 January 2014 14: 31
        +4
        Africa touches those who cannot stand up for themselves and who can get something. Chinese trawlers graze in Senegalese waters at home, but Senegalese authorities and environmentalists do not even think to notice it. Therefore:
        “You enter the market in a tank, and through the muzzle you ask:“ How much, how much ..? ”(Zhvanetsky). Or“ Movement of the Democratic Forces of Casamance ”...
        Otherwise, Russian business will continue to be “extreme” in ANY scandal.
      4. vyatom
        vyatom 23 January 2014 15: 05
        +7
        It was like that under the Union. Our destroyer was drifting in a group of fishing vessels and, accordingly, no Negro special forces did not interfere with fishing wherever you wanted.
      5. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 23 January 2014 15: 46
        +2
        Quote: Romn
        Send to the shores of this great country, under the nickname Senegal, all fishing vessels of Russia, accompanied by warships and any vessel to our


        Yes, not ... well then why? And in fact, they’ll still catch a whole fish there)))

        It is enough to keep one BOD on an ongoing basis ... let them go there and go under the guise of fighting piracy. Another time, if some black special forces get on a Russian ship, just intercept and escort to St. Petersburg for further investigation. One time to accompany and take away the trough for debts for the maintenance on the pier ... I think all the hype will end immediately.
      6. Bezz
        Bezz 23 January 2014 21: 04
        +1
        Quote: Romn
        Our main mistake was to capture the Greenpeace ship when they stormed our oil production platform, it was necessary to give the sailors on our border ship to practice target shooting ...

        I don’t think you’re a soldier. otherwise, predictable enemies are better than such nutty "allies". And, most likely, you "mowed" from the army, otherwise you would not carry such nonsense.
  2. maratenok
    maratenok 23 January 2014 08: 46
    +4
    Send the Navy there, and either release the condition with an apology, or who the hell out of Senegalese ships will go to sea. or chem. Syria’s weapons should be brought there and thrown out by chance near Senegal, so that they would be burnt with happiness
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 23 January 2014 09: 49
      +1
      Quote: maratenok
      Send the Navy there, and either release the condition with an apology, or who the hell out of Senegalese ships will go to sea. or chem. Syria’s weapons should be brought there and thrown out by chance near Senegal, so that they would be burnt with happiness

      So there’s nothing to send, most of what remains of Syria is concentrated ...
      1. alone
        alone 23 January 2014 20: 50
        0
        Quote: maratenok
        Send the Navy there, and either release the condition with an apology, or who the hell out of Senegalese ships will go to sea. or chem. Syria’s weapons should be brought there and thrown out by chance near Senegal, so that they would be burnt with happiness


        Yesterday a new head of the Federal Agency for Fisheries was appointed. Do you think this is so simple? Although, according to the data, the issue has already been resolved.
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  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 23 January 2014 09: 01
    +8
    Eh, all the same, it would be worthwhile to tumble down Senegal - for the order of times, and so that there would be no more such jokes from any side in relation to the Russian courts - two.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 23 January 2014 09: 07
      +5
      quote-Evil the crew of the Russian fishing vessel "Oleg Naydenov", arrested on January 4 by Senegalese special forces off the coast of West Africa, it seems, not today or tomorrow will end.

      Already over.
    2. alone
      alone 23 January 2014 20: 53
      0
      Quote: Stiletto
      Eh, all the same, it would be worthwhile to tumble down Senegal - for the order of times, and so that there would be no more such jokes from any side in relation to the Russian courts - two.


      Do you again propose to shandarahnut Poplars?)))
  4. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 23 January 2014 09: 05
    +11
    The weak are beaten, they see that Russia can be kicked and watered without hindrance, that’s why they kick and watered, Russia has once again lost its strength, what image can we talk about?
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 23 January 2014 14: 00
      0
      Quote: Standard Oil
      The weak are beaten, they see that Russia can be kicked and watered without hindrance, that’s why they kick and watered, Russia has once again lost its strength, what image can we talk about?

      Nonsense, Russia is not worn out and we are pushed around by "our" power controlled by Western Judas.
  5. Woolfy
    Woolfy 23 January 2014 09: 23
    +6
    First, I had to give the Sinegal ambassador an ass
  6. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 23 January 2014 10: 04
    +3
    Eh ... I would like our marines to conduct exercises - Storming the coastal fortifications of pirates with the release of the ship they captured.
    But it’s impossible, politiks. Sad, sad ...
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  7. kot11180
    kot11180 23 January 2014 10: 22
    +6
    I read and wonder, we have huge sea borders, and we buy fish, it turns out we pay for the life of gay Norway, where they mock our women and children.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 23 January 2014 13: 09
      +4
      Quote: kot11180
      I read and wonder, we have huge sea borders, and we buy fish, it turns out we pay for the life of gay Norway, where they mock our women and children.

      Nothing personal, business first. It is not Russia who buys, but the "uncle" businessman who cares about who, where, over whom, and how he mocks. Money comes first ...
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 23 January 2014 14: 13
      +2
      Quote: kot11180
      I read and wonder, we have huge sea borders, and we buy fish, it turns out we pay for the life of gay Norway, where they mock our women and children.

      Precisely noticed, starting with Shvondernadze with a hunchbacked "our" government has done everything to destroy fishing in Russia. To cooperate with the Norgs and some other countries is a betrayal, betraying their own, former and not only, citizens (primarily children) “our” creatures talk about the invaluableness of human life and immediately hobnob with anyone, even with fascists and call it politics and cooperation.
    3. jjj
      jjj 24 January 2014 03: 19
      0
      Only now the jambs go just in the economic zone of Norway, in Africa, in the Pacific Ocean. Even collective farmers, abandoning longboats and coastal fishing, bought large freezer trawlers. Arkhangelsk and Murmansk companies very often handed over the fish to the Norwegians. Came out on a Sunday night fishing from Vardø or Tromsø. Caught until Friday and back to the port. Here the distance is within reach. On Friday, he sold a catch to a Norwegian plant for currency. And until Sunday night the crew had a weekend on the beach. Here they usually tossed a coin: what to do. If the eagle - for women, if tails - to get drunk, if it stands on the edge - for museums, and if, God forbid, hang in the air, then they bought gifts for their wives. A joke of humor, of course, but with a great deal of truth. However, the point is different. From year to year, our trawlers handed over fish at such sweet prices that in Norway their own fishing business fell into complete decline. But processing - in every coastal village. And they now grow fish. In Severodvinsk, several special underwater fish pens were made for them.
      1. kot11180
        kot11180 24 January 2014 11: 35
        0
        Well, again - for them
  8. kotvov
    kotvov 23 January 2014 11: 15
    +4
    Senegal must be punished in order to discourage the retention of our ships. And punish as severely as possible.
  9. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 23 January 2014 11: 27
    +8
    Quote: maratenok
    Send the Navy there, and either release the condition with an apology, or who the hell out of Senegalese ships will go to sea. or chem. Syria’s weapons should be brought there and thrown out by chance near Senegal, so that they would be burnt with happiness

    in the mid-80s, fishing vessels of the USSR, which were fisheries in the Central Military District (Central-East Atlantic), were guarded either by the minesweeper MTSC or MPK, anchored in front of Mauritania. And not one neighboring third world state could not even open its mouth to the actions of fishing steamers. It is necessary to return the ships of the Navy to the fishing area, and then ambitious situations can be avoided.
  10. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 23 January 2014 12: 14
    +2
    Russia cannot tolerate such humiliation. Senegal (I mean leadership) should be punished.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 23 January 2014 14: 22
      +1
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Senegal (I mean leadership) should be punished.

      I agree, it’s punished and very harsh, but there must be powerful information support and a serious investigation, as well as the indictment of their overseas partners in greenpeace and others. It may even be possible to create a new judicial body - the Hague, the fake ones themselves, must appear before the law.
  11. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 23 January 2014 12: 27
    +1
    Evil must be rooted. Give the presence of the Russian Navy.
  12. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 January 2014 12: 43
    +3
    Fish from Norway, now fish from Africa. Are there no lakes in Russia? And in those that have water fish will not give birth? It's strange somehow. But we must cooperate. A money tail appears, which you can pull. So that next time the Minister of Fisheries of Senegal for such a seizure would fly out of his chair like a traffic jam within XNUMX hours, or "Onishchenko" would make a statement on the quality of their fish.)
    For those wishing to "punish" Senegal, I propose to seek through statements to the parliament to ban the activities of greenpeace on the territory of Russia and to recognize it as an extremist organization. Is it weak to write a petition and collect signatures? If the initiative is timely, it can be at the top and will be supported, at least you will scare the greenpeace, they may start thinking. And there are also greenpeace employees and offices in Russia that everyone walks by, and even if someone staged a protest, he held a placard opposite the entrance - "greenpeace - hands off Russia", where there is silence again.
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  13. T-73
    T-73 23 January 2014 12: 49
    +2
    Russia has worn out, Senegal to punish, the Navy to its shores ... further down the list. Elusive avengers, you blame, but already hesitated. I will repeat once again: "Naydenov" is a PRIVATE vessel. Are you suggesting that all Russians, as taxpayers, pay for the problems of one particular ship owner? And at whose expense do you think at least one naval ship will sail? And for what, in fact? Tell me specifically. Sinking fishing boats and Greenpeace men? Stand on the Dakar raid? This is already an act of aggression against an independent state, by the way. Why the heck of Russia to run with a club in hand somewhere in general? The deposit was made, the ship went to sea. Now go to the tribunal and sue in full. Requirements can be put forward without stint. And already here the state should (exactly here - should) provide maximum assistance (legal, informational) to the ship owner. And now we have
    "The veterinary services of Senegal unexpectedly turned to the Russian authorities, who, together with their Ugandan colleagues, asked to facilitate the access of fish processing enterprises in their countries to the Customs Union market." Maybe not an event of a universal scale, but the fact is that they are not fleeing from Russia. The supply of fish products needs to be diversified, Norway is ... ate at the root. It is high time already to prohibit our trawlers from unloading from them or to introduce quotas or taxes. It's time to build your processing plants. However, this is another question.
    Threat. And Senegal is just a pawn. Goes where they move.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 23 January 2014 13: 11
      +7
      Quote: T-73
      I will repeat once again: "Naydenov" is a PRIVATE vessel. Are you suggesting that all Russians, as taxpayers, pay for the problems of one particular ship owner?

      It is proposed to take under protection not the vessel itself, as part of the property of commerce, but rather the citizens of Russia. And no matter what funds will be spent from the budget. The budget will be reached.
      There is also the question of the prestige of Russia as a STATE.
      Here Polonsky frankly lays down on all justice (Russian) and "accepts ladies" on the rack, not without the help of lawyers hired (with the money thrown by investors).
      Quote: T-73
      And Senegal is just a pawn. Goes where they move.

      Especially ... Moving it to hell is not a great loss ...
    2. itkul
      itkul 23 January 2014 13: 40
      +2
      Quote: T-73
      Russia has worn itself, Senegal to punish, the Navy to its shores ... further on the list. The elusive avengers, you blame, but have already hesitated


      That's right, I’m already tired of reading the comments of youngsters, about sending ships and punishing Senegal. By the way, if Japan sends its warships, protecting their pirate longboats fishing in Russian waters in the Far East, as such an option.
    3. nerd.su
      nerd.su 23 January 2014 20: 52
      +2
      Quote: T-73
      ... I will repeat once again: "Naydenov" is a PRIVATE vessel. Are you suggesting that all Russians, as taxpayers, pay for the problems of one particular ship owner? And at whose expense do you think at least one naval ship will sail?

      And at whose expense do you think the shipowner will pay the costs of the capture incident? And what, now we will throw our citizens at the mercy of the foreign military? So why do we need an army and navy then? Leave the Strategic Missile Forces and live without leaving the country. The Navy is intended, in particular, to protect business in remote areas, it is necessary to oblige the business to contribute to ensuring this security.

      It is clear that now the bail has been paid and further the court, the tribunal and other legal clerk. And now it’s too late to wave your fists. Fists wave during a fight. For this opportunity to exist, business must be forced to cooperate with the military. Want to fish outside the economic zone of Russia? Pay a special fee, inform the MO about fishing areas, coordinate the time and the Navy ship will be on duty there. Something like this is necessary to organize our life. And do not shout that these are the problems of the private owner, let him understand.
      1. T-73
        T-73 24 January 2014 08: 41
        0
        Quote: bot.su
        coordinate the time and the Navy ship will be on duty there

        Yeah. Of course! the military has no other problems? each longboat guard. There are not enough gold reserves
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 24 January 2014 11: 33
          0
          Quote: T-73
          each longboat guard.

          Each longboat then why? If the company has many longboats, then protect everything at once. If not enough, the military will indicate where to catch. If you have one miserable longboat, but you definitely want to fish off the coast of Barmaleystan, where there are no ships, you can pay for staying on board several marines. If you don’t want to pay it, then we have democracy, catch it. But if something happens, we’ll select your longboat for solving your problems by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or the Ministry of Defense. With business, you should not stand on ceremony.
          With the military too. The sheriff's blacks don't care. There are not enough ships, so let them rent a trough, put a cannon, hang a flag and fly. In general, if everything is done intelligently, there should be a sufficient number of ships for such purposes. Tea shipbuilding has not died yet.
          What are the reserves of gold and foreign exchange? We have a bunch of different businesses that need the presence of the Navy off the coast of others. So let them pay at least half.
  14. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 23 January 2014 13: 07
    +2
    What for us lake fish from Uganda with exotic parasites from Africa?
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 23 January 2014 13: 23
      0
      Quote: Freelancer7
      What for us lake fish from Uganda with exotic parasites from Africa?

      Yes, not YOU, but cats. After deep thermal processing to the state of sublimated granules, the parasites die.
      So if something happens - take it safely ..... With beer ....
  15. T-73
    T-73 23 January 2014 13: 33
    +1
    For this, the Foreign Ministry worked. Maybe someone else, but they won’t say it openly
  16. anfreezer
    anfreezer 23 January 2014 13: 35
    +3
    T-73 "I repeat once again:" Found "- a ship PRIVATE... Are you suggesting that all Russians, as taxpayers, pay for the problems of one particular ship owner? "Citizens of Russia do not and should not have a form of ownership ... That's right, this is a matter of the country's prestige and respect for it from other subjects of international law, and if it’s difficult for someone to identify with them, then such a conversation is only from a position of strength, so that every banana island doesn’t show us ultimatums .. PS 30 years ago this would be fantastic ...
    1. itkul
      itkul 23 January 2014 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: anfreezer
      Russian citizens do not and should not have a form of ownership ...


      You offer to fit in with the bandits of the 90s, who have taken over the entire fleet.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 23 January 2014 13: 56
        +6
        Quote: itkul
        Offer to fit in bandits

        Whoever they are. Let the bandits, but these are RUSSIAN BANDYUGANS. The most gangsters in the world. This should be a priority in foreign policy in such cases. We will punish ourselves, and the rest do not dare to pull the legs.
        If you do not do this, it will go downhill. Bandyuki - comers - diplomats - tourists ...

        A jester with her, with a bowl. If all the more did not go under the Russian flag (?). So let it remain in the mortgage, once the property.
        The claims are expressed in what way - they detained RUSSIAN CITIZENS. All. Do not pay milen "Baku", but break into the most unbalanced ...
        1. T-73
          T-73 23 January 2014 14: 25
          +1
          Quote: Ptah
          Whoever they are. Let the bandits, but these are RUSSIAN BANDYUGANS. The most gangsters in the world. This should be a priority in foreign policy in such cases.

          This is extradition. It is strange that in these cases, as with Polonsky, for example, is the BDK on the island’s roads?
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 23 January 2014 17: 16
            +1
            Quote: T-73
            It is strange that in these cases, as with Polonsky, for example, is the BDK on the island’s roads?

            Nothing strange for me. It's all about the "need for an instance." Families, country, industry need two dozen sailors, and Polonsky ...
            Send to Polonsky Lebedev in one hut. Let him face his face again ....
      2. tlauicol
        tlauicol 23 January 2014 15: 33
        +3
        when in Uganda Jews (not only Israeli citizens, but also Jews from other countries) were taken hostage, their soldiers flew over 4000 km and killed not only terrorists, but also Ugandan soldiers, but at the same time they smashed the entire airfield and blew up airplanes. They took out citizens and non-citizens of Israel.
        So the only thing that interested the Air Force chief was to capture only the airport or all of Uganda.
        and we all think about homosexuals and Greenpeace. Power in this world is respected, only power
      3. nerd.su
        nerd.su 23 January 2014 22: 04
        +1
        Quote: itkul

        You offer to fit in with the bandits of the 90s, who have taken over the entire fleet.

        And 62 crew members what are you guilty of? Did they also take their hands in the 90s? Here I am amazed at you, itkul citizen - you only have loot before your eyes. And only today and a little yesterday. And if the Africans begin to delay all of our ships? And if this is really the machinations of greenpeace or the French? Is this still the problem of the shipowner and crew?
  17. Urri
    Urri 23 January 2014 13: 40
    +2
    Everything is rightly decided. Collateral money can be returned, and prestige too. The calculation of the French was to curry favor with the Saudis at the wave of discrediting Russia in order to disrupt the Olympics. The wave had already subsided, because many understood that quiet, peaceful Russia would patiently wipe all spitting in the face, but only until the third decade of February. But then they will return the money, and they will send an apology, and there will be many things to whom, and some in the world will die by chance. Nobody forgot anything. All the moves were recorded, about which P. Hollande politely hinted at the leak to the press of juicy details about his sex past his common-law wife.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 23 January 2014 14: 01
      0
      Quote: Urri
      but only until the third decade of February.

      What reference point was taken, who appointed this date ....
      And now, who or what prevents to deal with all problems at once?
      "Lampiada ... They want to boycott her ..."
      Who! Overseas and overdogs also will not go ... Pichal ...
      And let's, for now, for a month, allow them to play themselves into all the holes and yell about it, and after the "third decade" we will ban it ...
      But we will sip the homosexual, otherwise they will tear the Olympiad ....
  18. Urri
    Urri 23 January 2014 15: 54
    +1
    Quote: Ptah
    and after the "third decade" we will ban ...


    We will not prohibit, but we will answer "asymmetrically". These are two different things.

    "Learn to wait for the sake of victory. Wait in spite of pain, anger, fear, fatigue. Wait, stepping over your own self ..." (Hattori Hanzo, jonin of one of the three Iga clans)
  19. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 23 January 2014 16: 22
    +4
    "Long live the Senegalese court! The most humane court in the world !!!" laughing
    Senegal has achieved its goal - money (and considerable!) received. And loud statements about the bad Senegalese authorities - in favor of the poor ... fool And still it is necessary to find out - from whose pocket the payments were made: the official or the pocket of the owner of the "heroic fisherman"?
    And still it is necessary to find out - for what they gave a kick in the ass to the former head of "Rosrybolovstvo" comrade.Krainev - not for those notorious 3% of income? And also for that inaction, which can be safely qualified as "failure to provide assistance to the dying trawl fleet of the country", for neglect of their duties, for squandering public money?
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 23 January 2014 17: 09
      0
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      for which they gave a kick in the ass to the former head of Rosrybolovstvo Comrade Krainev

      Extreme, Ilyich ... extreme, but not the last.
      Andriusha didn't like it right away. And to sailors-fishermen and "lovers of floats" on rivers and lakes. I gave everything to the fucking holes and using those fucking on the beaches, not on the muffled sofas ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 January 2014 18: 06
        +4
        Quote: Ptah
        Extreme, Ilyich ... extreme, but not the last.

        I agree.
        There is an ordinary feeder at the state expense ... negative
        Touched by the bravura headlines about the release, as well as the mention of "Greepisi", which was attached informatively.
        But not so long ago a whole crew returned home from the shores of West Africa, which YEAR "Marinated" for the notorious violations of the rules of transportation of military cargo.
        Such numerous cases of seizure / arrest of ships with Russian crews, and even under the Russian flag. And only the tragic incident with the Okhotskaya drilling rig clarified the sad picture - when the sea and fishing industries are run by "cooks" and "gardeners" from Rublevka, ordinary sailors and fishermen will suffer.
  20. konvalval
    konvalval 23 January 2014 16: 26
    0
    And here the hand of the "elder brother" reached out. What do we need such "brothers" for.
  21. Zabvo
    Zabvo 23 January 2014 18: 33
    -2
    For a second, I presented such a situation with, say, the same Khrushchev ... Even so, it became scary for the poor blacks. However, today the realities of the world order are different, today we ourselves are talking about the fact that everything must be decided by the world, without sudden movements. But it would be possible to send 2-3 "White Swans" so for exercises wink .
    1. alone
      alone 23 January 2014 20: 55
      -1
      Quote: ZABVO
      But it would be possible to send 2-3 "White Swans" so for exercises.


      And they will be washed by just 2-3 combat-ready ones. The rest are waiting at the airport when they find the finances in order to thoroughly repair and modernize them in order to return them to service.
      1. Zabvo
        Zabvo 24 January 2014 06: 46
        0
        Well, according to "yours," maybe 2-3 combat-ready remained, as far as we know, all in the ranks + "Bears". I don't understand the same about finance, I personally think that today money is allocated quite enough for the modernization of "strategists" ...
  22. Tron
    Tron 23 January 2014 20: 54
    0
    I didn’t understand something. Really in Africa, monkeys began to attack people ?! However, it’s so good that they are behind bars in zoos!
  23. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 23 January 2014 22: 12
    0
    I do not like two things - racism and blacks.
  24. unsermann
    unsermann 24 January 2014 00: 58
    0
    Well, and where is our Navy, the return of which into the ocean so trumpets all officialdom? In the Mediterranean?
  25. 123_123
    123_123 24 January 2014 08: 51
    0
    The USSR has done so much for the countries of Africa and the regimes of the countries of Africa, our positions on the black continent were quite strong. And now, not paying attention to the resources spent, the time and efforts of diplomats, Yeltsin’s Russia stupidly merges it all ... Even in South Africa the Negro side promoted by the USSR defeated the apartheid regime, it would seem - join the victors so that they don’t forget thanks to whose including efforts, this happened and get well-deserved economic bonuses ... But no, the anti-people oligarchic regime simply took up the division of the public domain - the fossils and the remnants of the Union’s production capacities and stupidly clogs it up. You need to return faster - the old positions are almost lost.