Does Russia need Iranian oil?

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Does Russia need Iranian oil?


According to Rosstat, the main share in the commodity structure of Russian exports is Mineral Products. Moreover, the share of these "products" has grown rapidly in market times. If in 1995, the line "Mineral Products" was passing 42,5% of total exports, in 2000-m the share of exports of raw materials rose to 53,8%, in 2004-m - to 57,8%, in 2007-m - to 64,7%. Modern Russian statistics has divided exports in countries near and far abroad. According to Federal Customs Service, in total exports, the share of non-CIS countries in 2012 was 85,2%, the share of CIS countries - 14,8%, while in the commodity structure of exports to CIS countries, the share of fuel and energy products amounted to 55,4% of all exports to these countries ( 2011 year - 55,3%). These same goods formed the basis of Russian exports to foreign countries: their share in the commodity structure of exports to these countries amounted to 73,0% (in the 2011 year - 72,7%). There is no data for the full year 2013, but it is obvious that the export commodity trend continues to strengthen. According to the same Federal Customs Service, for January - June 2013, the basis of Russian exports to foreign countries was all the same fuel and energy products: their share in the commodity structure of exports to these countries was 74,9% (for comparison: 2012% in January-June) .

For completeness, it is necessary to list the main trading partners of Russia. Naturally, these are the countries that primarily buy oil and gas.

According to the latest data of the Federal Customs Service, the European Union occupies the most important place in the foreign trade structure of Russia. It is the largest economic partner of the country. The EU's share in January-June, 2013, accounted for 50,1% of Russian trade. The other largest raw material partner of Russia is the APEC countries (24,3%).

So, the lion’s share of Russian exports, according to official statistics, is taken by the export of energy resources (mineral raw materials in the first place). And the tendency to export them only intensified in recent years.

Question: Why does Russia plan to buy crude oil from Iran today, if its first economic task in the world market is to promote its own oil? Without trade in oil and gas, the Russian economy, which has also been drawn into the WTO, will simply fly into the pipe. Trade in raw materials today - the budget.

According to media reports, Russia is going to buy up to 500 thousands of barrels of oil per day from Iran. That's a lot: about 5% of what Russia itself is extracting (about 10 million barrels per day).

The second question immediately arises: the active purchase by Russia, and not only by Russia, of Iranian oil will bring down the price of this very oil on the world market (which is extremely unprofitable for Russia with its 74,9%). Nobody says that prices will collapse to the level of the last years of Yeltsin’s rule (everyone remembers the “default”), but there will definitely be some drop in the stock exchanges.

The press appeared and the answers. Analytical, of course, not from the governments of Russia and Iran.

Someone suggested that it would be beneficial for Russia to change the oil of Iran for its own goods - that is, we are talking about pure barter. The Russian economy, built almost entirely on commodity trading, such a deal would be profitable.

But this version was untenable. Now they write that the contract will provide for the monetary component.

It is possible that the purchase of oil will be organized because of the well-known unpleasant problem associated with the non-delivery of Russia to Iran by the S-300 air defense system. Putin even supposedly gathered in Tehran (at the insistent invitation from there) to finally settle this question.

Another common assumption: the Kremlin is friends with Iran so tightly because it is strong friends with Syria, because Damascus and Tehran are strategic regional partners. In addition, as part of the ongoing Cold War, President Putin is using any lever to weaken an already weak America and reduce its influence.

Oil news appeared in the Western media a week and a half ago. January 10 passed it on ITAR-TASS with reference to Reuters. Source "Reuters" was not named.

According to the agency, Russia and Iran held talks on swap supplies of Iranian oil in exchange for Russian goods. According to an anonymous source, Russia will receive up to 500 thousand barrels of Iranian oil per day (this is 25 million tons per year) in exchange for Russian equipment and goods (not specified).

But what is this oil for? For whom, more precisely?

She is supposed to go to China.

Who will buy it from Iran, which Russian company?

There is no clarity.

Zarubezhneft does not plan to participate in the exchange program for Iranian oil for Russian goods, a senior company manager told ITAR-TASS.

The press service of LUKoil declined to comment, but a source from the company told ITAR-TASS that the company also has nothing to do with the Russian-Iranian negotiations.

The Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation, too, was silent.

The media take basic information about the proposed deal from the Kommersant newspaper, specifically from the article by Anna Solodovnikova and Elena Chernenko entitled "Russia can put itself".

According to a Kommersant source in the government of the Russian Federation (also unnamed), Vladimir Putin and Hasan Rouhani agreed to build up economic ties in September in Bishkek. Specific proposals were discussed later - for example, in the framework of the December visit of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to Tehran. One of the approved initiatives was the idea of ​​supplying Iranian oil to the Russian Federation and Russian goods and equipment to Iran.

The fact that such a deal is being discussed is reported by Reuters (see above). The Kommersant interlocutor in the Russian government clarifies that “we are not talking about simple barter - the deal implies the use of funds”, and “the date of its conclusion does not depend on the lifting of Western sanctions from Iran, since Moscow did not sign under them”.

Thus, cash, and not at all simple barter. Trade, not change!

Not only that, and Washington objects.

A Russian diplomatic source told Kommersant journalists that Moscow intends to continue negotiations with Tehran, despite objections from the United States. Jay Karni warned that an agreement on the purchase of Iranian oil by Russia would contradict the agreements on the Iranian nuclear program between the "six" and Tehran, and the US is "extremely concerned about reports on this topic."

According to a Russian diplomatic source, the American side was told in response that "Russia has the right to buy oil from Iran in any volumes, and Tehran - Russian-made goods."

“Thus, the Russian Federation does not violate any sanctions (Moscow recognizes only UN Security Council sanctions, and considers unilateral Western restrictions illegitimate. - Note of Kommersant) and is not obliged to coordinate such projects with anyone,” the newspaper’s source said. - At one time, we took into account the concerns of a number of countries regarding military-technical cooperation with Iran (by refusing to supply it with C-300. - Kommersant), but this is completely different storyand it doesn’t concern Americans. ”

Americans are afraid that the deal will allow Iran to increase oil exports by 50% and earn 1,5 billion dollars a month from this. Revenues will weaken Iran’s interest in fulfilling nuclear agreements.

The head of the Center for the Study of Modern Iran, Rajab Safarov, whose opinion is brought by journalists, believes that if Russia waits until all sanctions are lifted, Western countries will occupy the Iranian market. Viktor Melnikov, chairman of the Russian-Iranian Business Council at the Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Russian Federation, says: “Selling Iranian products to Russia, in particular, oil, will provide Tehran with money to pay for Russian exports to Iran - this is a mutually beneficial story. Russia is interested in increasing exports to Iran of a number of commodity groups - ferrous metals, grains, vegetable oil, machinery and innovative business products. " Valery Nesterov from Sberbank Investment Research believes that Russia could send 25 million tons of Iranian oil to the growing Asia-Pacific market. Thus, Russia could strengthen its position in this region.

As for Russian oil companies, the Kommersant article did not add clarity.

We are not yet ready to talk about the prospects of a deal with Iran in our companies. An unnamed source in one of them made it clear that the order to participate in the oil scheme, most likely, "will be sent from above."

Browser Sergey Serebrov (Utro.ru) in relation to the Russian-Iranian transaction is quite critical.

According to the analyst, the current geopolitical impulse of the Russian authorities looks very ambiguous. The benefits of its implementation are illusory, which is not the case for cons.

First, it is doubtful that Hassan Rouhani completely abandoned cooperation with the West in exchange for friendship with Moscow.

Secondly, it is unlikely to consider Iran as a full-fledged strategic ally of Russia in the region. Tehran is clearly set to pursue its own policy.

Thirdly, Tehran will still make a bomb. The journalist writes:

“Immediately after Tehran declares possession of nuclear weapons (and this will happen sooner or later), all the current "successes" of both Russia and the United States will be reduced to zero. Neither side will decide to continue relations with a nuclear Iran. ”


So seriously, in geopolitical and economic terms, it is rather difficult to negotiate with the current Iran.

Russia's decision to start buying Iranian oil can slow down the arrival of Western companies on the local market, but is not able to eliminate it completely.

A very unpleasant consequence of the transaction may be a decrease in world oil prices. Sanctions on Iranian oil kept prices high. But the resumption of its exports to 0,5 million barrels per day can trigger a market decline. For the Russian economy, it will be catastrophic, the journalist writes. In his opinion, in the near future, the United States may also declare the start of its own oil exports. And this alone can lead to a fall in world prices for 5-30%.

As a result, the observer reduces the decision on the future purchase of Iranian oil to a number of other similar steps by the Russian authorities - such as the recent provision of multi-billion loans to Ukraine and Hungary, "when the economic and socio-political interests of the country are sacrificed to immediate geopolitical ambitions."

So, politics - contrary to the economy.

This is confirmed by well-known experts.

Victor Nehezin ("BBC") cites the opinion of Alexander Shumilin, Director of the Center for Analysis of Middle East Conflicts at the Institute of the USA and Canada, RAS.

The expert emphasizes that such a transaction carries exclusively political benefits for Russia:

“The agreement of the“ six ”with Iran on the nuclear issue seems to turn Iran towards the West. Because the Western countries imposed sanctions, and in order to weaken them, Iran needs to turn towards the West. And this turn concerns the relevant Russian strategists. Somehow it can be compensated, Iran can somehow be turned in its direction through this kind of deal. Which, I repeat, is economically unprofitable or completely unprofitable and even defective - there are different assessments. ”


The release of additional 500 thousand barrels per day to the market will cause a drop in oil prices, in which Russia is not interested.

“But there is political expediency in this: to draw Iran to itself, to show the significance of Russia, its special role, its special — positive in general — relations with Iran. There is a reason for that, yes. ”


Maybe oil was implied in exchange for C-300? Alexander Shumilin says:

“There is no direct information. If you eat speculation, then there was information that Iran wants to convert the deal on C-300: to make it an "upgrade" on C-400, something like that. But, apart from C-300 and C-400, Iran is not interested in principle in any Russian armament, it is on self-sustainment. ”


Guessing is endless. The situation can be clarified in the coming days or weeks. Recently, the Iranian Foreign Ministry expressed hope that the Russian president will soon visit Tehran. This was stated at a meeting with Putin by Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. He recalled that the invitation to visit Tehran was transferred to Putin during the last meeting of the leaders of the two countries.

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  1. +6
    23 January 2014 08: 26
    Well, here basically rumors and speculation.
    But in general, it turns out that this step will be primarily a light push towards the United States and those who imposed sanctions on it, i.e. Israel is in the first place for sanctions and, in general, the suppression of Iran, and the states, as their "closest ally," have to deal with this mess.
    Economically we are not profitable, but politically yes?
    So maybe it is worth the idea that now this political shan is more beneficial for us?
    Especially in light of recent events.
    1. +23
      23 January 2014 08: 30
      It’s profitable to take Iranian oil, its prices will be lower than market prices, then do not go to a fortuneteller, the benefit is even in its elementary subsequent resale. Where can we draw such conclusions !? Because all restrictions have not been lifted yet, Iran cannot supply all this oil to everyone, and the cost of oil production in Iran is lower, so let it be a small income from the purchase of this oil. The resumption of its export of 0,5 million barrels, well, firstly, this is not such a huge figure, and if this leads to a decrease in oil prices, it is not at all critical and even more so it will not be a disaster for Russia! For example, it can be said that countries such as a boat, UAE and etc. have long threatened that they will start to produce a much larger amount of oil (and by the way they can do it, in an amount much larger), but this will not reduce prices so critically. Any phrase that such an increase will lead to collapse for Russia, sheer nonsense!
      Even such a sales method as barter is also not very bad, a good market for the sale of our weapons, and let’s find where to get the oil we’ve got, the sales channels have been established!
      1. +3
        23 January 2014 09: 25
        Yes, purely economically - I bought it cheaper, sold it more expensive, the gain in my pocket. But. Iran is not a puppet, and it’s just that it will not sell oil cheaper than the market (we are not enemies to them, but not friends, moreover, friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart). Further, the purchased oil needs to be transported in some way, the question is - we have practically no tankers, there are no pipelines from Iran at all, and it’s not worth the effort to produce them from the Persian Gulf through the Iranian Highlands. It turns out that for Russia this oil will bring only one loss amid falling prices (and Iran has openly stated that it will dump). Therefore, the main task of Russian diplomacy at the moment seems to be the secretive maintenance of the image of Iran as a world ub..ka while maintaining sanctions.
        In general, to be honest, Russia "sits on the hydroelectric sites" for too long and from this its economy degrades, like a drug addict's body and a shake-up in the form of falling oil prices would be useful to us - they would start thinking with their heads and not with other parts of the body. Sorry for the harshness, but it's true.
        1. +2
          23 January 2014 11: 02
          Quote: zart_arn
          But. Iran is not a puppet and just so it will not sell oil cheaper than the market

          You just don’t take into account - the Russian Federation has the infrastructure and oil distribution network both to Europe and the Asia-Pacific region, Iran doesn’t have it and its construction is fraught with huge risks and stretching a thread to the Russian Federation is generally not the most difficult thing and if necessary Kazakhstan will help .
          1. Besoffner
            +2
            23 January 2014 14: 29
            Quote: Scoun
            Quote: zart_arn
            But. Iran is not a puppet and just so it will not sell oil cheaper than the market

            You just don’t take into account - the Russian Federation has the infrastructure and oil distribution network both to Europe and the Asia-Pacific region, Iran doesn’t have it and its construction is fraught with huge risks and stretching a thread to the Russian Federation is generally not the most difficult thing and if necessary Kazakhstan will help .

            Iran wanted to stretch the pipeline through Syria to ship to tankers directly in the Mediterranean Sea. But Saudi Arabia had the same plans, however, the branch was supposed to go to Turkey. This was also beneficial for the Turks, as an additional means of influence in Europe. This competition was one of the causes of the war in Syria.
            But ... the glory of Russian diplomacy:
            2012 - Assad is losing the war, the Russian base is preparing to evacuate, the Yankees and Israelis are preparing a strike on Iran, Turks, Saudis and Jordanians are pulling troops to Syria.
            2014 - Russians in Syria, Assad wins the war, Iran will ship oil to Russia, Israel and Turkey flirting with Russia, the development of deposits is discussed with Cyprus, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are flowing around. Everything in g ** is not, we are on horseback.
            Oh, what a multi-path ...
            1. +3
              23 January 2014 19: 07
              And why should Iranian oil be driven to the Russian Federation, where is it enough? From there and ship and tankers to the buyer. It seems to me that the problem here is that the Russian Federation has a lot to sell (existing contracts), and the IR had a problem because of the embargo. They want in Russia to get oil in the West. Please, tankers to Kazakhstan, then on CPC you will receive in the Black Sea. It is necessary to China. Please, the railway to the Kazakhstan pipeline to China (all the more, they threw the railway line, I won’t say exactly, but the National Academy of Sciences stated that Rosneft had contracted 70% of the capacity to Turkmenistan).
              RF, it is beneficial in my opinion from the economic (earn) and political (influence on the oil. World market) side. Well, you can not say about the impact on Iran itself. What do not say, and if this is true, then this is another victory for Russian diplomacy. hi
              1. +3
                23 January 2014 20: 09
                Quote: Kasym
                Why Iranian oil to drive in the Russian Federation, where it is already enough? From there and ship and tankers to the buyer.

                It seems to me that even tankers can be Iranian, like they are already transporting Russian oil. Sanctions will not work here: oil is not Iranian. In this case, Russia will only win.
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          2. 0
            23 January 2014 21: 57
            Quote: Scoun
            and to stretch a thread to the Russian Federation in general is not the most difficult thing, and if necessary, Kazakhstan will help in this matter.

            And what is Kazakhstan bordering with Iran? what With this logic, can India help you with this?
        2. +2
          23 January 2014 11: 21
          Why do we need a pipeline? Tankers across the bay where the buyer needs.
        3. PN
          +5
          23 January 2014 11: 27
          And we don’t need to worry about oil transportation. China (for example) itself will export it by tankers. It is enough for us to put a couple of clerks in Tehran where they will buy Iranian oil and immediately sell it to everyone. De facto it turns out that Iranian oil, but bought from Russia.
        4. avt
          +3
          23 January 2014 11: 52
          Quote: zart_arn
          Yes, purely economically - I bought it cheaper, sold it more expensive, the gain in my pocket.

          request Naturally beneficial, especially if counter deliveries of our products to Iran go, so "common people" and fussed about justifying the "disastrous for the raw material economy of Russia" of this deal. Russia in relations with Iran is one step ahead of "common people" and this infuriates them. For their "experts" it would be good to remember and publish the old "Iran-Contra" gave, when for financing the militants in Nicaragua, the Americans, despite the Iran-Iraq war, their filthy relations with the Ayatollahs and various "sanctions" less sold weapons, spare parts for equipment. Well, when it became not very necessary - in Nicaragua, Ortega practically put the squeeze on, they merged a small fry - the colonel of the performer, for the sake of internal squabbles, and even then it was not very tough.
          Quote: zart_arn
          In general, to be honest, Russia has been "sitting on the ulgevodorods" for too long and this degrades its economy, as the body of a drug addict and a shake-up in the form of a drop in oil prices would be useful to us - they would start thinking with their heads,
          “Maybe change something in the conservatory” - before Judas Gorbachev and the company, the presence of its own richest resources did not prevent the USSR from developing quite adequately and purposefully. So listen less to the heralds of the totalitarian sect “Gaidarov's Witnesses” who worship “Everything and everything regulating the Market” and “Holy Investments” of those who talk about the “resource curse” of Russia. Remember that they have already voiced the slogan of taking over the international control of the resource base of Russia, in the Arctic and Siberia. Well, about Tetchero-Gaidarovskoye about the need to live in Russia no more than 80 million Don't forget, but there will be tankers, don't worry.
          1. Fin
            +2
            23 January 2014 13: 26
            Quote: avt
            of the totalitarian sect, the Gaidarovs' Witnesses, "worshiping" Everything and everything regulating the Market "and" Holy Investments "

            I liked the name of the sect and idols.
            1. avt
              0
              23 January 2014 13: 43
              Quote: Fin
              I liked the name of the sect and idols.

              I read about the Gaidarites and investments in, "However," I liked it myself, and it inspired me about the market. laughing
          2. +1
            23 January 2014 20: 23
            Quote: avt
            Well, about the Tetchero-Gaydarovskoye about the need to live in Russia no more than 80 million people do not forget.


            According to Thatcher - 15-20 million, 80-90 million people - this is the maximum when conducting subsistence farming.
        5. Max
          Max
          +2
          23 January 2014 22: 39
          For the transportation of oil, we do not need tankers, China has them. Shipment at own expense China will provide. Its tankers will certainly not be touched by either Arabs or the United States. New terminals are also not needed. There are Iranian ones, but according to the documents it will be our oil, i.e. Some Glavrybrosinvest with a staff of 3 people registered in Uryupinsk will receive Russian and money. And according to international laws, everything is clean. Iran needs not only S300 and S400 air defense systems, but also beeches. The Bastion, the Iskander, the new reb stations and more will not hurt. at the expense of self-sufficiency of the military-industrial complex of Iran-nonsense. The leadership is well aware that the military-industrial complex of Iran is 30-40 years behind the rest of the world and will not last even three days in the event of a conflict. The example of Libya is in front of everyone. The Americans didn’t even land, they just bombed. Rouhani understands that he needs to protect himself from aviation. Chinese air defenses are unlikely to be effective, but the Russians have a different conversation. A nuclear program needs a lot of cheap energy. Nuclear plants are needed, there are few of their own technologies, equipment is not needed in Iran, and there are few world-class designers and operators in Iran. And North Korea specialists can also produce uranium and plutonium. They don’t know how to build nuclear power plants, it’s a fact.
        6. 0
          24 January 2014 23: 09
          To get into the circle of industrialized countries, you need to at least accumulate a lot of money to buy, train, produce modern products. In addition, people are not supported by starvation. There are many problems, they cannot be solved quickly. And no one is breathing friendship with us, this must not be forgotten. Everything needs to be done step by step. The Union has also been made for decades, because there is a lot of work.
      2. +5
        23 January 2014 09: 35
        Quote: mirag2
        Economically we are not profitable, but politically yes?


        Profitable and so and so.

        After all, reselling someone else's oil is much nicer than your own.
      3. +8
        23 January 2014 10: 18
        Quote: Romn
        It is profitable to take Iranian oil, its prices will be lower than market

        + Most likely, it will resemble the situation with Turkmen gas for the Iranians, this is a minus "smut" + security and stability, the Russian Federation can reduce the production of its own (not eternal) resources while practically not losing profit from oil sales. (rude but something like that.)
      4. +2
        23 January 2014 12: 17
        Quote: Romn
        It is profitable to take Iranian oil, its prices will be lower than market

        And we will supply them with high-tech products.
        If Azerbaijan still joins this, in spite of its claims to Iran, it will be generally good.
        1. smersh70
          -5
          23 January 2014 12: 29
          Quote: Vasya
          Azerbaijan will join, despite its claims to Iran,

          Yes, so that we, what are you talking about)))) is holy, holy, holy. We would have less claims to us, we don’t want anything from others, unlike our southern and western neighbors smile
          1. +4
            23 January 2014 12: 54
            “Today Armenia cannot survive without outside help. Note that this is not about development, but about survival. Even the most senior officials recognize this. And why? This situation has arisen as a result of the Armenian occupation policy, "Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said on January 21 in Ganja (Arm. - Gandzak) during a meeting with refugees and familiarization with the progress of work in the village being built for them.

            “Azerbaijan, despite all the difficulties experienced during 20 years of occupation and the presence of 1 million refugees, is economically reviving and developing rapidly. And we will definitely restore the territorial integrity of the country. Let no one doubt this. And I declare once again that Azerbaijanis must return to all historical Azerbaijani lands. Our lands are not limited only to Nagorno-Karabakh and the surrounding territory. If we turn to the history and statistics of the XNUMXth century, we can see that the territory of Azerbaijanis was huge", - noted Ilham Aliyev.

            "The territory of today's Armenia from time immemorial belongs to Azerbaijan. For this reason, I declare that in the future we will return to all our historical lands. Let both children and youth know this. We must live, live and will live with these ideas”, Ilham Aliyev emphasized.

            And so yes
            we don’t want anything from others
            laughing laughing laughing
            1. smersh70
              -5
              23 January 2014 12: 59
              Quote: genisis
              And so yes

              I don’t want to get involved - not on the topic --- otherwise I would answer you ..........
              1. +4
                23 January 2014 13: 18
                Quote: smersh70
                I don’t want to get involved - not on the topic--

                I don’t want either, Vurgun - I know how it will end.
                Only one replica. But this rhetoric is very similar to someone's words. And about the settlements, and about the "primordial" territories, and about "we will live with these ideas." Is not it...
                1. smersh70
                  -2
                  23 January 2014 15: 27
                  Quote: Ptah
                  But this rhetoric is very similar to someone's words. And about the settlements, and about the "primordial" territories, and about "we will live with these ideas." Is not it...

                  so learn from neighbors laughing laughing as in the Russian proverb, with whom to hang out, that and to visit wassat
                2. +3
                  23 January 2014 20: 10
                  Quote: Ptah
                  But this rhetoric is very similar to someone's words. And about the settlements, and about the "primordial" territories, and about "we will live with these ideas." Is not it...


                  “The territory of the Jewish state extends from the Nile to the Euphrates”

                  Theodor Herzl
                  “The promised land stretches from the Nile to the Euphrates and includes part of Syria and Libya”

                  Rabbi Fishman.
                  the creation of “Greater Israel” is the cornerstone of the influential Zionist movement, which today has its representation in the Netanyahu government (Likud faction), as well as among the military and intellectual elite of Israel.

                  Zionism (from the name of the hill Zion in Jerusalem),
                  most reactionary a kind of Jewish nationalism, which became widespread in the 20th century. among the Jewish population of the capitalist countries.
                  The ideological doctrine of Zionism uses many of the dogmas of Judaism.

                  Its main provisions are as follows:

                  Jews of various countries of the world represent the extraterritorial "united world Jewish nation";
                  Jews - “special”, “exclusive”, “chosen by God” people;
                  all the peoples among whom the Jews live are, in one way or another, anti-Semites;
                  anti-Semitism - the phenomenon of "eternal";
                  assimilation, that is, the merging of the Jews with the peoples around them, is "unnatural and sinful";
                  de Jews have “historical rights” to “the lands of biblical ancestors” (Palestine and the surrounding areas), on which they must concentrate and build a “purely Jewish” “egalitarian state”.
                  The 30 session of the UN General Assembly (November 1975) qualified Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination.

                  Modern Zionism is a nationalist ideology, an extensive system of organizations and politics, expressing the interests of large Jewish capital, closely connected with the monopoly capital of imperialist states.

                  The main content of modern Zionism is militant chauvinism, racism, anti-communism and anti-Sovietism.
                  ZIONISM (definition from the Great Soviet Encyclopedia)
                  1. 0
                    24 January 2014 10: 33
                    Apparently, Israel is helping the Aliyev regime not only with the supply of military equipment, but also with texts for the Sultan speechwriters))))))
      5. Skiff-2
        +2
        23 January 2014 17: 27
        Quote: Romn
        It is profitable to take Iranian oil

        And it is profitable, first of all, not even because it is cheaper, but so that prices do not fall. It is one thing when a fresh player enters the market and searches for a place that he has lost before - of course, he will dump. But if an additional resource (Iranian oil) appears in Russia, then mother will take care how to sell it without dropping prices (Asian markets are still growing rapidly), plus an additional increase in the export of industrial goods (and this is not pumping oil - new jobs, workload of enterprises) and as a result friendship grows stronger! I'm all for it !!!
      6. bif
        +1
        24 January 2014 04: 43
        Quote: Romn
        It’s profitable to take Iranian oil, its prices will be lower than market prices, then do not go to a fortuneteller, the benefit is even in its elementary subsequent resale.

        I agree and note a VERY important detail, even if the oil price drops, the RF will still not have losses, because Iranian oil, most likely to go to China, has recently signed a multi-year contract with a prescribed price, and in general oil supplies go under long-term contracts, where there is no direct link to market value. And finally, in order to offset the price drop due to the appearance of Iranian oil on the market, it is possible to remove, by the Air Force, Qatari oil ... together with the state.
    2. +3
      23 January 2014 11: 43
      Quote: mirag2
      Well, here basically rumors and speculation.

      So sure, sir!
      Most importantly, at what price will purchases be made?
      If at least a small profit appears during the sale, then everything is justified in an economic sense. But in the political, in the sense of Iran’s influence, even more so.
    3. Besoffner
      +2
      23 January 2014 14: 21
      Yes, everything is obvious. Better we will buy oil from Iran, neutralizing, thus, our real competitor, so that this competitor does not lure buyers to itself, and also, make it dependent on us. And Iran benefits - a breakthrough in the trade blockade. And raising / lowering oil prices is a fiction. Oil is sold under specific, previously concluded contracts.
      Thus, several birds with one stone are killed
      1 hare - neutralization of Iran as a competitor in the oil market;
      2 hare - strengthening the ally in the region by breaking through the trade blockade;
      3 hare - increasing dependence of Iran on Russia, so that "allied" feelings would grow stronger in it;
      4 hare - expanding the market for its products in Iran (80 million people - such a sickly market)
      That is, taking into account the 4th hare, oil can even be bought at an inflated price. In this regard, however, peace in Syria is no longer so relevant for Russia.
    4. 0
      24 January 2014 22: 13
      Observer Sergei Serebrov (Utro.ru) is quite critical regarding the Russian-Iranian deal.

      According to the analyst, the current geopolitical impulse of the Russian authorities looks very ambiguous. The benefits of its implementation are illusory, which is not the case for cons.

      First, it is doubtful that Hassan Rouhani completely abandoned cooperation with the West in exchange for friendship with Moscow.

      Secondly, it is unlikely to consider Iran as a full-fledged strategic ally of Russia in the region. Tehran is clearly set to pursue its own policy.

      Thirdly, Tehran will still make a bomb. The journalist writes:

      “Immediately after Tehran announces the possession of nuclear weapons (and this will happen sooner or later), all the current“ successes ”of both Russia and the United States will be reduced to zero. Neither side will decide to continue relations with nuclear Iran. ”


      So seriously, in geopolitical and economic terms, it is rather difficult to negotiate with the current Iran.

      Russia's decision to start buying Iranian oil can slow down the arrival of Western companies on the local market, but is not able to eliminate it completely.

      A very unpleasant consequence of the transaction may be a decrease in world oil prices. Sanctions on Iranian oil kept prices high. But the resumption of its exports to 0,5 million barrels per day can trigger a market decline. For the Russian economy, it will be catastrophic, the journalist writes. In his opinion, in the near future, the United States may also declare the start of its own oil exports. And this alone can lead to a fall in world prices for 5-30%.

      As a result, the observer reduces the decision on the upcoming purchase of Iranian oil to a number of other similar steps by the Russian authorities - such as the recent provision of multibillion loans to Ukraine and Hungary, “when the country's economic and socio-political interests are sacrificed to momentary geopolitical ambitions”


      And here we clearly see who this Serebrov is working for. Look, his geopolitical message is clear: Russia does not need to expand southward, because Iran wants to pursue its own policy (I wonder what is the contradiction here? Or does the author confuse the concepts of an ally and a puppet?), And become a nuclear power. The latter is generally strange. It means that you can be friends with nuclear India and China, but for some reason you can’t be friends with Iran.
      The phrase also looks funny:
      “When the economic, social and political interests of a country are sacrificed to momentary geopolitical ambitions”

      The fact is that from any sane point of view, geopolitics is superior to economics. A normal statement would sound, for example, like this: "You cannot sacrifice your fundamental geopolitical interests to the economic or socio-political conjuncture."

      Regarding the transaction itself, I will assume the following. Since 2012, Iran has been under the embargo on oil supplies to Europe and incurs corresponding losses. The purchase of Iranian oil by Russia can solve this problem. After all, we can sell oil anywhere. Of course, Russia will benefit from this. Assuming some altruism on the part of our oligarchs is rather strange.
  2. +10
    23 January 2014 08: 27
    To buy it is not to rob, force and kill, as the barbarians from the USA and the EU are used to doing.
    1. +4
      23 January 2014 09: 38
      We have barter, we helped with Syria’s weapons, it survived the fight against American jihad !!!
      Now, in Syria, they study the Russian language, and Russia produces oil and gas !!! To achieve this peacefully, it is expensive !!!
  3. +7
    23 January 2014 08: 34
    “Immediately after Tehran announces the possession of nuclear weapons (and this will happen sooner or later), all the current“ successes ”of both Russia and the United States will be reduced to zero. Neither side will decide to continue relations with nuclear Iran. ”

    I don’t know what successes are in question, but I strongly doubt that the relationship will not continue. At least for the Russian Federation there is no big difference: there is nuclear weapons in Iran or not, we have no reason for aggression against this country.
  4. makarov
    +7
    23 January 2014 08: 41
    "Does Russia Need Iranian Oil?"

    Of course it is needed, if only in order to control, regulate and influence the industry market.
    1. 0
      23 January 2014 08: 43
      Is there an infrastructure for this? How will this oil be delivered?
      1. +1
        23 January 2014 08: 47
        Sorry, the question is, are there any oil pipelines from us to Iran?
        You can build, and the effect of this pipeline will come as soon as they sign an agreement on its construction.
        1. +3
          23 January 2014 09: 18
          Quote: mirag2
          You can build

          Considering that we basically do not need this oil but only for sale, we can load it into tankers and transport it to China. They directly buy, and we are fucked smile
          1. +1
            23 January 2014 20: 32
            Quote: bairat
            Considering that we basically do not need this oil but only for sale, we can load it into tankers and transport it to China. They directly buy, and we are fucked

            This is not true, you must leave your oil to descendants (or in case of war), and for domestic consumption - to buy.
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    2. 0
      23 January 2014 08: 43
      Is there an infrastructure for this? How will this oil be delivered?
      1. Don
        +3
        23 January 2014 12: 03
        Quote: bairat
        Is there an infrastructure for this? How will this oil be delivered?

        It is not necessary to deliver it to the Russian Federation, although it is possible. Firstly, you can buy it from Iran and immediately on tankers of the PRC or India to deliver it to these states or other buyers. Secondly, it can be delivered to Russia through Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. Thirdly, you can sell to Turkey and Armenia, for this you do not need to deliver it to the Russian Federation.
        1. 0
          23 January 2014 12: 56
          Quote: Don
          Secondly, it can be delivered to Russia through Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan.

          A very good option, but very unstable. Asians are well-known tossing fans. In order to somehow secure the economic risks, you need to drive "your" pipes, and this is again long negotiations with the "nishtyaks" that were necessarily bargained from Russia for the local DIASPOR OLIGARKHOV.
          Quote: Don
          Thirdly, you can sell to Turkey and Armenia, for this you do not need to deliver it to the Russian Federation.

          The former have Azerbaijan in their korefans, and the latter do not have much domestic consumption, much more pure begzin and diesel fuel are needed than "raw materials".
          1. Don
            +1
            23 January 2014 18: 57
            Quote: Ptah
            A very good option, but very unstable. Asians are well-known tossing fans. In order to somehow secure the economic risks, you need to drive "your" pipes, and this is again long negotiations with the "nishtyaks" that were necessarily bargained from Russia for the local DIASPOR OLIGARKHOV.

            In my opinion, just Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan are the most stable among all the Central Asian countries. And of course they will receive money for transit.
            Quote: Ptah
            The former have Azerbaijan in their korefans, and the latter do not have much domestic consumption, much more pure begzin and diesel fuel are needed than "raw materials".

            Turkey is now buying from Iran, both gas and oil, but the EU is putting pressure on them. And so they will actually not buy Iranian, but buy Russian oil. Armenia is not a big market, but still a market.
            1. 0
              23 January 2014 21: 04
              Quote: Don
              In my opinion, just Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan are the most stable among all the Central Asian countries.

              Maybe. Only Turkmenistan does not border on China, and Kazakhstan "extra kilometers" to the side.
              So Kirgi and Taji remain, Afghanistan, Paki and Hindus do not count. The mountainous region and the complete lack of power in the first two and strained in relations with China in the second two ..
              Again they came to the tankers, if at all, the idea grows together.
        2. 0
          23 January 2014 16: 24
          Quote: Don
          Secondly, it can be delivered to Russia through Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan.

          I would not rely on Turkmenistan. The country is actively leading the struggle for the Caspian Sea and is completely not interested in any strengthening of Iran.
          And they look at Russia askew. One ban on dual citizenship with the voluntary-forced rejection of their citizens from Russian citizenship is worth it.
          Turkey is not so simple either. This is a historical competition in the region, and the fact that deliveries will have to be conducted through the turbulent Kurdistan.
          There is really another option for deliveries to Turkey. Did Rosneft recently decide to turn the pipeline from the Black Sea coast to Azerbaijan (if I don't confuse anything)? Well, it’s not for Azerbaijan to sell oil. But he suspects that he has transit capacities.
          1. Don
            0
            23 January 2014 19: 08
            Quote: Arhj
            I would not rely on Turkmenistan. The country is actively leading the struggle for the Caspian Sea and is completely not interested in any strengthening of Iran.

            She won’t be able to fight especially hard for the Caspian. What they have is what they have, and this is enough for them.
            Quote: Arhj
            And they look at Russia askew. One ban on dual citizenship with the voluntary-forced rejection of their citizens from Russian citizenship is worth it.

            In my opinion, just citizenship is distributed without problems. Won Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Ukraine is a confirmation of this.
            Quote: Arhj
            Turkey is not so simple either. This is a historical competition in the region, and the fact that deliveries will have to be conducted through the turbulent Kurdistan.

            Iran now supplies gas there without any problems.
            Quote: Arhj
            There is really another option for deliveries to Turkey. Did Rosneft recently decide to turn the pipeline from the Black Sea coast to Azerbaijan (if I don't confuse anything)? Well, it’s not Azerbaijan’s oil

            I don’t understand what kind of oil pipeline are you talking about?
            1. +1
              23 January 2014 21: 02
              In August 2013, it was reported that Azerbaijan was in talks with Rosneft to transfer the Baku-Novorossiysk oil pipeline to reverse mode for pumping Urals oil to Azerbaijan. This is done to load capacities of Azerbaijan oil pipelines
  5. 0
    23 January 2014 09: 05
    And who threw this cartoon - about the fact that some kind of deal is planned between Russia and Iran? Both sides are silent. If the "duck" came from the Western media, then this is pure provocation.
  6. Sanyl
    +3
    23 January 2014 09: 31
    article is nonsense from the very beginning: let's say the share of oil and gas in the total value of exports really increased from 43% in 1995 to 65% in 2007. But, damn it, the price of non-oil has grown by about 10 times during this time! This means that non-fuel exports have grown much more and that real dependence on oil is much less.
    1. fartfraer
      0
      23 January 2014 16: 14
      we argue that the collapse in prices for computers and cell phones (just as an example of high-tech goods) will not lead the Russian Federation to such a crisis as the collapse in oil and gas prices? Or did Rusnano make a powerful breakthrough in technology and now we are not afraid of a drop in gas prices?
      1. Max
        Max
        0
        23 January 2014 23: 07
        I remember very well when IT companies grew on exchanges about how much money was invested there, how stocks soared by 500% or more, but when the crisis struck, they fell more than everyone else. Second, they are caliphs for an hour, as soon as a new percent is released, the version of a new gadget or a previous generation sharply depreciates, so the shares do not grow as before by 500%. Why not chase silicon technology, here we are late. But in the quantum we are still competitors, here on them and the fusion need to be emphasized. And also on genetics and medicine. This is the next trend. Nanotechnology is everything. And Putin is right that it makes no sense to walk the path twice, we must go forward. As an option, a tablet-sized computer placed in a ruby ​​or sapphire crystal, and they are already working on it.
        1. fartfraer
          0
          24 January 2014 09: 05
          Well, about medicine, I timidly notice, we have entire funds raising money for those in need of urgent operations, complex treatment, etc. and you know that strange treatment is needed in Israel, Germany, but in the Russian Federation they don’t provide such services, but if they do, then it’s easier to raise money for Germany than to wait in line at Russian hospitals
  7. +5
    23 January 2014 09: 34
    if oil is of light grades, then it is 100% in demand in Russia itself.
    fuel for aviation, gasoline without additives, etc.
    1. +4
      23 January 2014 09: 55
      We have little light oil.
      yehat is absolutely right.
      You can still improve the quality of our oil by mixing with light. The price of oil is rising immediately.
      1. 0
        23 January 2014 11: 01
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        You can still improve the quality of our oil by mixing with light. The price of oil is rising immediately.

        If we take into account your proposal, then the export oil of the "REBCO" (Russian Export Blend Crude Oil) brand, under the auspices of which it will be possible to sell for export (and in the big case, it will be re-exported), is formed in the "Transneft" pipeline system by mixing heavy high-sulfur oil from the Ural-Volga region and low-sulfur oil from Western Siberia and supplied through the northern seaports of the Russian Federation (Primorsk and Ust-Lug). Therefore, in the first place are logistics issues, namely, the economic feasibility of delivering Iranian oil to the Transneft system for export sales.
        Therefore, in my opinion, it is better to organize its refining at southern refineries (all the more so - the cost of refining will decrease), and redirect the released volumes of Russian oil to export.
        But: the Iranian Ministry of Oil has denied information about such negotiations (according to RBC).
        1. Max
          Max
          0
          23 January 2014 22: 56
          The Persians are big politicians, they always deny everything, and then they confront the fact. And yet such transactions may not be advertised in the world. Why tell the Iranians about this? This may reassure them of the power of science and the correctness of the ideas of the Islamic revolution. Another thing is to quietly agree and then get modern equipment to put on their complexes and present as their own successes. By the way, many of our manufacturers of protected computers do just that (((
      2. +2
        23 January 2014 12: 49
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        You can still improve the quality of our oil by mixing with light. The price of oil is rising immediately.

        Then nothing will work out - you have given out the Most Terrible Secret. Now everyone knows.

        What happens if you mix a barrel of bad wine with a barrel of good? Correctly. TWO barrels of bad ...
  8. +2
    23 January 2014 09: 49
    In any case, even if it is only intentions, it is a multi-way combination that reduces pressure on Iran. And given the long-standing and not bad relations with Tehran, we must move, because nature does not tolerate emptiness.
  9. oscar
    +1
    23 January 2014 10: 38
    And of course, Western "experts" predict the collapse of the whole combination ... They are not tired of the same thing? They would come up with something new.
    1. fartfraer
      0
      23 January 2014 16: 19
      This is predicted not only in the West, dear. Resource dependence is a disaster. By the way, I live in the city center with a population of about 500t.h. and I am burning myself with wood))) I look at the advertisement that Gazprom is the property of the nation as a bad joke) although I may have already been struck off the lists of this nation, because in the largest country in the world there are no 10 acres of land in line for which I have been standing for more than one year.
  10. PN
    +1
    23 January 2014 11: 31
    I have a question: in what currency will oil be calculated - dollars, rubles, yuan ???
    1. +2
      23 January 2014 11: 47
      Dangerous question.
    2. +2
      23 January 2014 12: 15
      Quote: PN
      I have a question: in what currency will oil be calculated - dollars, rubles, yuan ???

      It was said that there would be netting. Iran will receive equipment and products from us. After many years of sanctions, Iran now has a lot to do.
  11. 0
    23 January 2014 12: 35
    Iran will never become someone’s satellite, it will always pursue its policy aimed at dominating the region, and in a year or two it will have an AO. The question is whether it is necessary to negotiate with the Persians now, or will we do this with a nuclear, evil and hungry neighbor ???
    1. fartfraer
      0
      23 January 2014 16: 21
      Well, the North Koreans here do not scare anyone and the opinions of members of the forum are very categorical, apparently Iran is much more dangerous than the Koreans?
  12. 0
    23 January 2014 12: 37
    The option is interesting, but requires careful miscalculation. It is particularly interesting in light of increased supplies to China, if this oil can be delivered there at reasonable costs. Well, the calculation of goods - this is the main goal of our government for structural development. Only goods must be selected in high quality so that the opinion on foreign markets of our products as Chinese is not prevailing.
  13. armorboy1
    +1
    23 January 2014 12: 44
    Oil will go to China through a swap scheme. Or rather, it will actually go to Europe via our pipe, and deliveries to China from Siberia will accordingly increase by the amount purchased in Iran.
    Why is it nafik what goods from the Russian Federation?
  14. +1
    23 January 2014 13: 05
    What do you think can pay for arms deliveries and the construction of Iran’s nuclear power plant if its economy really suffered from sanctions.
    1. fartfraer
      0
      23 January 2014 16: 22
      if the Iranians sue compensation for not supplying the s-300, then the RF itself will have to pay, or what?
  15. +1
    23 January 2014 13: 10
    Stupid question! fool So it’s better to sell weapons to Iran for anyone who doesn’t need green papers when we can exchange them for oil and gold, which was generally a long time ago.
  16. EnjoyThelights
    0
    23 January 2014 13: 11
    People, clarify what kind of resale we are talking about if the UN sanctions on Iran prohibit this very resale? I understand that we are only talking about use in the domestic market.
  17. +1
    23 January 2014 14: 10
    The mere fact that the Americans have skewed says that It is useful to Russia (and therefore harmful to the West).
    And if you buy all the Iranian oil? Russia will gain enormous economic influence in the Middle East, and we will support Iran, become good comrades with the eternally troubled southern neighbor. The war in Syria will become irrelevant because the planned oil pipeline for Europe will have nothing to "feed". Without violating UN sanctions, use Iranian oil in the domestic market, and drive domestic oil abroad, increasing exports. That's when the West will begin to have severe "liver problems."
  18. +1
    23 January 2014 14: 56
    Gentlemen, learn the mat. Especially the last passage - Iran is self-sufficient in armament ..... amateurs ....... C 300 or C 400 will not decide on its own, a multi-layer air defense system is needed. And what will the Air Force hold back the enemy? on F 5 and F 14,? Remodel, don’t remodel, but this is a Mig 21 level car. And what about armored vehicles? One-time deliveries from China still did not solve the issue of rearmament. And on the site there are a lot of conspirators - conspiracy therapists mixed with sofa commandos ... No need to think up anything - nothing happened, some lady from Komersant - known about the Russian newspaper, wrote an article. They only told her (in great secret), no one else. And then let's broadcast everything. .
  19. +1
    23 January 2014 15: 03
    Daddy PUTIN well done))) plays SUCH multi-pass PARTIES that can only be Surprised How it turns out!
  20. AVV
    0
    23 January 2014 15: 15
    Quote: mirag2
    Well, here basically rumors and speculation.
    But in general, it turns out that this step will be primarily a light push towards the United States and those who imposed sanctions on it, i.e. Israel is in the first place for sanctions and, in general, the suppression of Iran, and the states, as their "closest ally," have to deal with this mess.
    Economically we are not profitable, but politically yes?
    So maybe it is worth the idea that now this political shan is more beneficial for us?
    Especially in light of recent events.

    Sometimes, in order to win a strategic move, you need to step back a step !!! I think that is the same here !!!
  21. Igor.
    0
    23 January 2014 16: 00
    In addition to oil, Iran has nothing special to pay. Not to fat. Take oil))
    1. fartfraer
      0
      23 January 2014 16: 23
      where will you get it when you take it? Will you lower gas prices in the Russian Federation?
      1. +1
        23 January 2014 20: 39
        Quote: fartfraer
        where will you get it when you take it? Will you lower gas prices in the Russian Federation?

        We will reduce quotas for our oil workers.
      2. +2
        23 January 2014 22: 02
        Quote: fartfraer
        where will you get it when you take it? You will reduce gas prices in the territory of the Russian Federation


        I think the opposite will rise. That once rises in price, more than the price does not fall)))
      3. DPN
        +1
        24 January 2014 22: 27
        Socialism is a stage that has passed, so you can’t even dream of lowering prices, it will go to state officials in golden parachutes.
  22. +1
    23 January 2014 16: 23
    Kind! This is a strategic step, since then, against Iran, sanctions can be returned and all those small pipelines that it has cut off, and the Russian Federation has a huge developed network for the distribution of crude oil, pumping stations, in a word, everything that is needed for its successful sale! and selling Iranian oil to us will be cheaper than in the EU. In short, another preemptive strike against our "partners". It is necessary to buy, this is oil, you see, it will have its own kiss!
  23. +1
    23 January 2014 20: 26
    Russia does not need Iranian oil, Russia needs Iran as a partner, and partnerships are kept on such trifles.
  24. filin17
    0
    24 January 2014 08: 20
    Tehran - Kiev - Moscow. Chess sketch

    What Russia wins:
    - In fact, the Russian Federation has at its disposal a colossal resource for which the most obvious use is to send it far away from European markets, which you can make money by the way and what can be easily done with the help of the recently acquired Rosneft global trading and oil and logistics network (tankers, bunkers, etc.) American bank Morgan Stanley (http://file-rf.ru/news/17427). By the way, the fact that Rosneft was given the opportunity to buy this transport and oil global octopus (with the exception of infrastructure in the United States) is already a powerful signal in terms of the fact that some of the American polit-economical elite wants to help Russia on the global stage. Consider this a modern analogue of Land Lisa, because in the modern world - a tanker, a trader and an oil contract - are also weapons.
    - Russia may simply not bring these volumes to the global market (it costs money, but keeping a high price for all Russian oil and gas exports is worth it)
    - important! - This colossal resource will not go to Europeans and Americans.
    500000 barrels is approximately the ceiling of what Iran can now produce in excess of current volumes, i.e. Sechin actually wants to completely stop the result of the "thaw" between the West and Iran. ambitious, commendable, smart.
    - most importantly, in the context of the Sechin-Putin project of the Asian Oil and Gas Exchange (http://vz.ru/news/2013/10/17/655321.html) where hydrocarbons will be traded for a "basket of local currencies" and not for the dollar , gaining control over such a volume of oil (and, in the future, gas) is a step that brings Russia and its allies very close to breaking the "petrodollar needle", in which the "koshcheev's death" of our overseas haters is.
    The stakes are very serious, it is clear that Putin "went to the stranglehold" :)

    http://crimsonalter.livejournal.com/10302.html
  25. 0
    24 January 2014 08: 47
    Great move! Buy Iran's surplus from daily production! Shah and Mat Pindo $ am!
  26. DPN
    0
    24 January 2014 22: 20
    A normal tavaro is an exchange, but don’t take bananas, oil costs money. Another thing is whether the money will reach the Russian people.