Military Review

The apparent failure of the Ukrainian opposition

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20 January 2014, the media "exploded" reports that the Ukrainian Euromaidan again far from a peaceful rally. As it turned out, events began to develop not according to the scenario of opposition leaders. And instead of demonstrating the strength of national unity, a massacre again occurred on Independence, and there was a split among the opposition.

Opposition leaders wanted to demonstrate that they are quite capable of disrupting the adoption of a new state budget, even though the head of state Yanukovych asked to do this as quickly as possible. The opposition needed at least a little, but a victory so that those people who are still standing on the Maidan would not be disappointed and would not lose hope of the possibility of achieving the intended goals.

It is already obvious that the Maidan is no longer needed by the opposition leaders, because he did not live up to the expectations placed on him. But at the same time, it’s also impossible for the three of the opposition leaders to allow people to disperse, because it will automatically mean a failure in the eyes of the people and will hit the rating a lot. Therefore, attempts were made to block the rostrum and the presidium of the Verkhovna Rada, not to allow the speaker to leave the cabinet.

According to media reports, attempts were made to block the vice speaker, but he still managed to get into the session hall and open a meeting. Then the pro-government factions and the state budget was adopted. And after him a few more bills. When the minority leaders realized that they had lost, they decided to move to more efficient, forceful methods: they began to take cards from the majority of deputies, one of the regionals smashed their heads. However, such actions did not stop the Party of Regions and the Communists, and they switched to manual voting.

Of course, one can argue about the legality of such a vote and the correctness of the counting of votes, but in the current situation, in the opinion of the majority of parliamentarians, just such a vote was most acceptable.

Among the bills reviewed and adopted by 16 in January, it is first necessary to note a bill to simplify the procedure for removing parliamentary immunity. In the event that this law enters into force, almost immediately after the submission of the General Prosecutor’s Office, the issue of lifting parliamentary immunity will be considered directly in plenary session. Thus, the deputy may lose immunity in one day if the majority of deputies vote for it. And this automatically means that if one of the deputies violates the provisions of the Criminal Code, and there are quite a few of these in the Ukrainian opposition, then in a short time, he can change his place of residence and lose his freedom.

Another important bill is the amnesty "Berkut". Its essence boils down to the fact that not only participants of the Maidan, who were detained for organizing mass riots, will be released, but also police officers who beat them. Of course, the authorities could not leave the “Berkutovtsy” to the mercy of fate, because at present they are in dire need of their support. In addition to the amnesty, several other norms were adopted that protect the rights of the power structures. So, in particular, the threat to life or violence against a police officer or members of his family would be a criminal offense punishable by restriction of freedom for a long time.

At the same time, the actions of Euromaidan were significantly limited. So, for example, according to accepted norms, participants of Maidan are forbidden to wear masks or to cover their faces in any other way. In principle, the logic is present in this, because if the action is peaceful, then there is nothing to hide. In addition, the establishment of tents, movement in motorcade more than five cars without the traffic police.

The adoption of these laws became obvious evidence that the authorities were tired of enduring Euromaidan, and they began the process of "tightening the screws." However, it is also obvious that not only Maidan will suffer, but also society as a whole.

After the adoption of the “anti-Maidan” laws in the capital, clashes between the protesters and the “Berkuts” began again. Currently, this confrontation continues, the number of victims has already exceeded a hundred people, some of them are in very serious condition. The protesters divided into two parts. And if January 19 on M. Hrushevsky Street in Kiev, where the main events unfolded, were over thirty thousand people, today part of them moved to Maidan (after the request of W. Klitschko, the leader of the UDAR party). On the street Grushevskogo left about a thousand protesters, but they say that they do not recognize the opposition leaders, so they are not going to return to the Maidan. However, they do not leave attempts to attack the "Berkutovtsy", throwing in them incendiary bottles and stones.

According to official statistics, after 19 January night clashes, around 50 law enforcement officers were hospitalized, they were found to have craniocerebral injuries, bruises, fractures, burns and poisoning with unidentified substances. The activists did not ignore the police transport: they burned four buses and several trucks. Barricades were erected from pieces of the fence, burnt transport and other debris. There is information that the “Berkut” also did not particularly appeal to the protesters. Oppositionists provided data allegedly about the "harassment" of the security forces, which are currently being checked.

At the same time, the prosecution authorities opened criminal proceedings on the fact of organizing mass riots under Article 294 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. Two dozen participants in the confrontation were detained.

The events that took place in Kiev at the weekend were once again heavily criticized by the American National Security Council. Council Representative in Ukraine, Caitlin Hayden expressed concern about the events taking place in Ukraine. According to her, a similar situation has developed as a result of the fact that the Ukrainian government is not able to meet the “legitimate claims” of its people. The Ukrainian authorities are undermining the foundations of democracy, viewing peaceful protest as a criminal offense. The Council called on the government headed by V. Yanukovych to repeal the "anti-democratic" laws (although it should be noted that most of the adopted norms are successfully used in the leading "democratic" states of Europe), which allegedly served as reasons for the protest, to withdraw from the capital the opposition. Otherwise, Hayden said, the United States is considering the possibility of imposing additional sanctions.

And it seems that the Ukrainian authorities have listened to the advice: according to the latest information, those articles of laws that restrict the rights of people, according to some media, will be abolished. A statement in this context was made by E. Lukash, Minister of Justice of Ukraine. And the head of state ordered A. Klyuev (Secretary of the Security Council) to start creating a working group to resolve the political crisis in the country.

Surveys of the population of Ukraine show that it’s time to do something, because, by and large, it becomes more difficult to control the protesters on the Maidan and the authorities and the opposition. People are embittered by the fact that no one hears them, and that for a long period of time they have been confronting security officials without any obvious results. Hence, the beatings of those who did not like something, obscene messages and obvious provocations of the Berkutovtsy, the swaying of buses and other impartial acts. It’s time to decide what Ukraine really wants ...

Materials used:
http://russian.rt.com/article/21082
http://www.utro.ru/articles/2014/01/20/1169585.shtml
http://www.ridus.ru/news/153079
http://versii.com/news/295227/
http://zadonbass.org/news/accent/message_75130
http://www.buzina.org/publications/1184-usmirenie-po-evropeiski.html
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  1. askort154
    askort154 21 January 2014 08: 58
    +47
    In the photo. Beauty! So it would be like with every modern politician, you would look less eager for power.
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 21 January 2014 09: 11
      +125
      quote
      In the photo. Beauty!
      http://img8.joyreactor.cc/pics/comment/%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B8-soba4ki-%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-837318.jpeg
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 21 January 2014 09: 17
        +42
        That's right ... They don’t step on the rake. They jump on them!
        1. Yves762
          Yves762 21 January 2014 15: 57
          +23

          Perhaps others, having seen enough, at least do not become like ...
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 21 January 2014 19: 00
            +14
            The dashing shots from the Maidan, and even with the use of a fire extinguisher, is my new source of inspiration, but it is really impressive! And if the fire extinguisher turned out to be foamy ???

            Fiery Euromaidan fighters ...

            Yesterday in the Friends Square, I'm just in shock
            The lord of Maidana was extinguished!
            Of the three, the most fiery fighter!
            A fire extinguisher worked according to Klitschko.

            Suddenly the situation suddenly changed!
            Yesterday, how could he possessed the masses.
            And now it’s all powder-dumbfounded
            Guys, this is complete mess!

            A drop fell, overflowing the bowl.
            Arrow jumped, parity burst!
            So friends, just in an instant
            Klitschko’s authority was extinguished!

            By the way, there still the singer Ruslana promised an act of self-immolation, should she be sprinkled for prevention?
        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 21 January 2014 21: 30
          +1
          There, the kneading was not in earnest, the officers adopted the law on the use of golden eagles against the demonstrators, they responded by saying that they have 400000 zaregannyh trunks in their hands and they will answer, any provocation from any side and real human sacrifices will go, it’s one thing to pay for 500 kill scars a day and completely different to kill each other for the interests of geyropov and s, black sadness overcomes me from what is happening.
          1. 31231
            31231 21 January 2014 21: 38
            +6
            And why should Berkut use weapons?
            Strong healthy men in Berkut, they are young and can calm this young chantrap without a firearm. There would be a team.
            1. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 21 January 2014 22: 04
              0
              Watch the videos as a wild boy burns Molotov’s cocktails and sets fire to the golden eagle’s fighters and they burn like ordinary people, and about strong men like that, the crowd can beat this drum in one day (20.01.) With 80 such men in the hospital.
              1. 31231
                31231 21 January 2014 22: 57
                +9
                And what is stopping this chantrap from throwing bottles ?! The Golden Eagles have no team, so they stand and catch everything on themselves. If men go with batons and shields and water cannons to this shkolota, the sight will be diametrically opposite.
            2. testerson
              testerson 22 January 2014 01: 06
              +2
              Healthy - yes. But when the ratio is 1 to 5 ... Look you youtube how the people of Berkut run away from the "shantrap". Get a stick on the head - health immediately goes away.
            3. Current 72
              Current 72 22 January 2014 01: 39
              +3
              It is better for the golden eagle to use the holy Epiphany water from the water cannons, and the father would have finished the frost with their work, and the Maidan people would have calmed down immediately. And no bullets are needed.
              1. Vasek
                Vasek 22 January 2014 05: 40
                +1
                Quote: Current 72
                It is better for the golden eagle to use the holy Epiphany water from the water cannons, and the father would have finished the frost with their work, and the Maidan people would have calmed down immediately. And no bullets are needed.


                By the way. and why else did Alyaksandar Rygoravіch Lukashenka not formally express his opinion?
                It seems that he has his own, original recipe for this porridge!
          2. zzz
            zzz 22 January 2014 09: 04
            0
            And why not apply for these gopniks net for catching animals (sorry for such a comparison, "man is also an animal") Everyone will remain alive on a silver platter, with all the material evidence.
        3. mihailow56
          mihailow56 22 January 2014 00: 48
          +3
          They jump well, but they don’t know that the rake will be in the ass in the geyropu ...
        4. mihailow56
          mihailow56 22 January 2014 01: 29
          -1
          They took a geyropu-in the ass will be ..
      2. RussianRu
        RussianRu 21 January 2014 09: 18
        +39
        The representative of the Council in Ukraine Kaitlyn Hayden expressed concern about the events taking place in Ukraine. According to her, a similar situation has developed as a result of the fact that the Ukrainian government is not able to meet the “legitimate claims” of its people.


        Collect signatures under an appeal to Yanukovych on establishing constitutional order in the country. Then we’ll see what the State Department says about democracy and freedom. These one-sided and exceptional ones have already been pulled up.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 21 January 2014 11: 10
          +14
          Quote: Russian
          Collect signatures under an appeal to Yanukovych on establishing constitutional order in the country. Then we’ll see what the State Department says about democracy and freedom

          otherwise it’s not clear - it’s not legitimate, rigged, collected in a non-democratic way
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 21 January 2014 12: 35
            +23
            Here, many are surprised why the Ukrainian government does not restore order, and the cops steadfastly, heroically endure strikes without lambing at them? It’s just that the West only needs this to start beating Ukraine in all directions without any brakes: economically, politically, judicially, and even by military means.
            1. Ivan_Ivanov
              Ivan_Ivanov 21 January 2014 12: 37
              +4
              and another continuation
              1. Ivan_Ivanov
                Ivan_Ivanov 21 January 2014 12: 39
                +13
                and the last ... who is not visible, I refer to the source: http://putnik1.livejournal.com/2639575.html
                Here and above - Opinion of the Colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Zaporozhtseva:
                1. 222222
                  222222 21 January 2014 13: 35
                  +2
                  Kurginyan: "The Ukrainian bell is ringing for Russia" The meaning of the game - 49.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdnOtoXtpt8
                2. Jogan-xnumx
                  Jogan-xnumx 21 January 2014 16: 53
                  +10
                  Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                  Here and above - Opinion of the Colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Zaporozhtseva:

                  It’s all right and reasonable people, naturally, will support it. Although not at all out of sympathy, but only to resist this Nazi infection and foreign invaders. As usual, the people vote not "for" but "against" ...
                  But where was this government originally and what did it think before? It grew up on its own, without the help of the people, and now they remember it for the people. And the people, which this government did not care about, now have to wipe their asses. Why did it go ahead, like a crazy hippo, to sign this association when the people were against it? Were signatures collected for the referendum? People's signatures. Why did it resist, press everybody who stuttered about the referendum? How they got to power, they did not know how and how many skins to pull off this people, and now they have a "question of survival", you see! Yushchenko climbed into the EU, NATO and the WTO like a madman. And this degenerate there too! Although the opinion of the people knows that people are against it. Now the "partners" in the EU and NATO are "developing" their "democracy" here ...
            2. 755962
              755962 21 January 2014 13: 55
              +8
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              to start beating Ukraine in all directions without brakes: economically

              And here is a surprise for you .....
              Ukraine adopted a program of cooperation with the Customs Union until 2020

              The government of Ukraine during today's meeting approved a program of cooperation with the Customs Union until 2020. The document contains references to specific mechanisms for enhancing this cooperation, but in general it is more of a framework nature.

              The government, as follows from the press service of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade of Ukraine, plans to increase bilateral trade and mutual investment with the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan, which the program should contribute to.


              http://www.russiapost.su/archives/14109
            3. Vasek
              Vasek 22 January 2014 05: 49
              0
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              It’s just that the West only needs this to start beating Ukraine in all directions without any brakes: economically, politically, judicially, and even military


              Well, by military means, they will probably choke on the beat!
              I think it’s easier for us to lower our dog!
              They have repeatedly squealed: "That's it, Ukraine is ours!"
              And what, where are all these "conquerors" now?
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 21 January 2014 12: 33
          +23
          Quote: Russian
          Collect signatures under an appeal to Yanukovych on establishing constitutional order in the country

          Yes, during the "play" collecting signatures with an appeal to the rag Yanukovych is not worth it, he is trying to please everyone .. in front of everyone creeps ..
          The Council called on the government led by V. Yanukovych cancel the "anti-democratic" laws (although it should be noted that most of the accepted standards are successfully used in the leading "democratic" states of Europe), which supposedly served as the reasons for the protest, withdraw special forces from the capital and start a dialogue with the opposition. Otherwise, Hayden said, the US is considering introducing additional sanctions.

          And it seems that the Ukrainian authorities took the advice:

          Well, who can so frankly curry favor with the State Department, huh? Why Ukrainian media do not appeal to the whole world with shots like a special forces harness that doesn’t even really answer the attacking criminals / scumbags in fact? the police don’t touch them; they beat their Ukrainian police and maim them and try to kill them.
          IMHA.
          Yanukovych needs to resign by appointing a provisional government from the security forces (as a guarantor of order and law, as in Egypt) The Provisional Military Government announces an emergency, curfew and so on, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs begins all Yatsenyuk-tyagnybokov who call to be put in jail with charges of incitement to a coup and rebellion, the organization of riots and attempts on the lives of law enforcement officers, all active participants in a jail without any amnesties.
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 21 January 2014 13: 16
            +10
            Quote: Scoun
            Yanukovych needs to resign

            In no case!
            Yanukovych must act as a guarantor of the Constitution and the rule of law. And for this:
            to re-subordinate the media, to deprive the maydanut NGOs of financing and to pull out a couple of "informal leaders" under the iron clauses of the Criminal Code.
            The worst thing that can happen is the delegitimization of central authority. What do you actually offer)).
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 21 January 2014 13: 35
              +5
              Quote: ctepx
              In no case!
              Yanukovych must act as a guarantor of the Constitution and the rule of law.

              Here ... I must. But personally, it seems to me that he disappointed both the security officials (giving them up for the sake of "democracy") and about the Ukrainian-minded citizens, even the Maydanutyh, he upset, they provoke provoke wipe their feet, but he endures nothing. pardons Maydauns And pardons the "Berkut" fighters what is this? to please both? who among us can imagine that when the belolentochniki staged provocations, the GDP would amnesty our employees? yes it is nonsense!
              1. brainkiller
                brainkiller 21 January 2014 13: 46
                +7
                Quote: Scoun
                but he’s suffering ... nothing.

                so necessary. There are situations when you absolutely do not need to do anything to win. Exposure is the key to success against the Maidan. And the current picture shows that it works.
                Bgg, not all leaders have been preliminarily "lowered" yet.
                1. Camouflet
                  Camouflet 22 January 2014 00: 30
                  0
                  Can I give a hero’s face close-up? Well, you understand, from the avatar. At the request of the audience. good
              2. CTEPX
                CTEPX 21 January 2014 13: 49
                +6
                Quote: Scoun
                when the white coilers organized provocations of the GDP would pardon our employees?

                Compare Putin and Yanukovych. Putin BEFORE the speeches of the white-collar workers he pushed through the law of Dima Yakovlev (in fact, against the foreign financing of NPOs) and responsibility for some actions, but Yanyk just)). Let's see what happens when the laws published today take effect.
                1. brainkiller
                  brainkiller 21 January 2014 14: 00
                  +1
                  Funny nickname STERH, especially funny when you write about GDP =)

                  "Come to me Banderlog" - that was an adequate reaction to belolentochnikov =)
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 21 January 2014 14: 06
                    +1
                    Quote: brainkiller
                    Funny nickname STERH

                    With a nickname, really lucky)). Although I have been using it (not on this resource) since 2007).
              3. Viktor Shmagin
                Viktor Shmagin 21 January 2014 23: 45
                0
                suffers because he is mazepovich
            2. Scoun
              Scoun 21 January 2014 13: 46
              +7
              Quote: ctepx
              Yanukovych must act as a guarantor of the Constitution and the rule of law

              Where is this guarantor, why doesn’t he protect these people in uniform who have been sworn in ?!


              In the faces of employees, they are not afraid to fire from spray cans .. and they suffer and then they are also amnestied .. yes this is nonsense. Personally, my opinion and I do not impose anyone Yanukovych man morally crap one's pants.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 21 January 2014 14: 10
                +3
                Quote: Scoun
                Where is this guarantor, why doesn’t he protect these people in uniform who have been sworn in ?!

                Maybe because dofiga about ... cakano? and simply stupid protection of employees would lead to the realization of the "friend or foe" syndrome, where "alien" is the one who is for "corrupt power", and "friend" is all who are against?)).
                1. Scoun
                  Scoun 21 January 2014 15: 14
                  +22
                  Quote: ctepx
                  Maybe because dofiga about ... cacao? and just dumb employee protection would lead

                  Maybe ... everything can be, but I have a simple citizen, a simple person there is quite natural for me bewilderment, as an example.
                  Here I "went" to the rally ... I am holding a rally ... a number of Interior Ministry officers are standing, just standing there .. then I run up and start lashing them with a chain, trying to hit them harder and harder and preferably breaking something by breaking them ... here I I’m tired of hitting them, I take a can with an aerosol, a lighter .. and I start to shoot flames in the faces of the special forces .... it bothers me and I start tossing a Molotov cauldron at them .. and at the same time God forbid touch me! I’m a fighter for democracy, and this one in armor and a helmet .. an element "alien" to democracy, and a waste of society, and if he touches me .. then the "guarantor" himself will have a pale appearance and crumpled loaves ...
                  Picture 2.
                  There is a fighter, his flail on the head gobbing! in the face with paint! with fire in the face ... with flammable liquid ... and he stands and thinks ... don’t be nervous ... otherwise they’ll drag him along the tracks and ships ...
                  Personally, I would have these maydaunov .. before losing my pulse, I would have beaten and had I been a general of these fighters .. I would have given them carte blanche to disperse and arrest the provocateurs and tell the authorities -to the court of fighters! I would have turned the fighters against this stubborn power and against these maidanut tyagniboks Yatsenyuk and sister.
                  (this is my personal opinion because these with cocktails and flails are no different from the Syrian mrazot).
                  1. densh
                    densh 21 January 2014 15: 18
                    +27
                    And not only from the Syrian scum
                    1. lelikas
                      lelikas 21 January 2014 17: 41
                      +17
                      It’s necessary to insert it in a row -
                      1. Sakmagon
                        Sakmagon 21 January 2014 19: 02
                        +6
                        I'm on the Maidown Front wounded by a fire extinguisher

                        DOES NOT TAKE INFECTLY!
                        (feet sweaty in their mouth!)
                        ... and sledgehammer ...
                        ... or call a doctor?
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                  2. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 21 January 2014 15: 47
                    +10
                    Quote: Scoun
                    (this is my personal opinion because these with cocktails and flails are no different from the Syrian mrazot).

                    I agree!
                    It different couplets from the same songs.
                  3. Jogan-xnumx
                    Jogan-xnumx 21 January 2014 17: 04
                    +6
                    Quote: Scoun
                    (this is my personal opinion because these with cocktails and flails are no different from the Syrian mrazot).

                    I agree with you from the first to the last letter !!! good
                  4. PureGUN
                    PureGUN 22 January 2014 00: 54
                    +2
                    I agree with you. He himself served in the BB. And when he watched the golden eagle set on fire with impunity, ofigel. First thought: Where is the FAS team !?
            3. testerson
              testerson 22 January 2014 01: 09
              +1
              Although he is a felon. But at the moment - the right words!
        3. 222222
          222222 21 January 2014 14: 03
          +6
          Semyon Uralov: "So, Euromaidan in its current form suits all project participants:

          1. Investors, managers and leaders play negotiations;

          2. The crowd and viewers feed on a juicy picture;

          3. The authorities will not dare to disperse, because the juicier the picture of the crowd, the more terrible the image of "nationalists and fascists". Consequently, from an electoral point of view, the issue of winning the presidential election is practically resolved;

          3.1 Plus for the authorities, such a picture is an excellent background for new trade with Moscow and Brussels: everyone is afraid to get a new Yugoslavia on their borders - especially in Moscow.

          4. The behavior of the authorities absolutely suits the radicals, nationalists, ultras and other enthusiasts of the street - because you can "beat the trash" with impunity.

          All participants of the Euromaidan project receive their bonuses. And that means the show will go on. Exactly until the moment when a neoligarchic group of individuals appears in Ukrainian politics, capable of assuming full power and taking advantage of the situation of rebellion. Moreover, it can appear both among the authorities and mature within the Euromaidan. And then it will depend on which path the republic will take: the path of reaction or the path of a coup.

          However, most likely this will not happen. Because the current project "Euromaidan" suits everyone. Except for the people of Kiev and private military personnel. "
          http://www.centrasia.ru/news.php?st=1339576740
        4. O_RUS
          O_RUS 21 January 2014 16: 24
          +5
          + good

          Quote: Russian
          These one-sided and exceptional ones have already been pulled up.


          illiterate and irresponsible ... yes it’s fashionable to list for a long time, it’s bad that normal Ukrainians who deserve a better life suffer from such.
      3. domokl
        domokl 21 January 2014 09: 21
        +39
        laughing But it seemed to me that the photo was a political corpse. I got it .... Klitschko .. on the violin. After what happened where to stumble on him? Maidan showed who he is a fire extinguisher, the pro-government forces also found out ... In the ring, in Germany and ... write memoirs about the bastard Ukrainian people who did not want to live in geyropov
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 09: 33
          +19
          Quote: domokl
          He recouped .... Klitschko .. on the violin

          He jumped back even when all his brains in the ring got bogged down.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 21 January 2014 10: 08
            +10
            Well, you are so harsh. You just have to do your own thing - what you get. In the ring, he is in his place. In politics - NO.
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            2. nickname 1 and 2
              nickname 1 and 2 21 January 2014 14: 38
              +1
              Quote: abrakadabre
              In the ring, he is in his place. In politics - NO.


              Now, if he did sumo then maybe! And then he grabbed the belt and now he wants the whole of Ukraine in a similar way.
            3. Suhov
              Suhov 21 January 2014 21: 57
              +1
              Quote: abrakadabre
              In the ring, he is in his place. In politics - NO.

              If you omit the details, then:
              In the ring - he ...,
              In politics - his ....
          2. Vasia kruger
            Vasia kruger 21 January 2014 11: 07
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: domokl
            He recouped .... Klitschko .. on the violin

            He jumped back even when all his brains in the ring got bogged down.



            In Ukraine, a politician Klitschko, in our Duma, Valuev is sitting ... is this normal at all?
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 15
              +13
              Quote: Vasia Kruger
              Valuev is sitting in our Duma

              But he doesn’t climb into the presidency !!! And in general, having seen enough of the military meetings of our Rada, the Duma decided to host force support ... just in case!
              1. Alexei
                Alexei 21 January 2014 17: 26
                +5
                Quote: Egoza
                The Duma decided to host force support as well ... just in case!

                Let them recruit more boxers, and Rada meetings will be much more spectacular. Garnovyh girls, exuberant lads - and u, broadcast! wink
                1. Suhov
                  Suhov 21 January 2014 22: 12
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexej
                  Garnovyh girls, exuberant lads - and u, broadcast!

                  No, not all.
                  Ksenia Sobchak forgot to mention.
                  With her - the garbage madhouse should have turned out.
                  Now it’s all! wassat
              2. alone
                alone 21 January 2014 20: 54
                -5
                Quote: Egoza
                But he doesn’t climb into the presidency !!! And in general, having seen enough of the military meetings of our Rada, the Duma decided to host force support ... just in case!

                )) So what if Valuev doesn’t climb into the presidency? And he has a lot of benefit in the Duma? Also from other athletes? Except that in the adoption of laws concerning sports and that's it !!
                Maybe Valuev is an economist or a super-duper lawyer?
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 11: 41
              +7
              Quote: Vasia Kruger
              Valuev is sitting in our Duma ... is this normal at all?

              Yes, Valuev is neither heard nor seen. Let him sit there and be silent.
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            4. nickname 1 and 2
              nickname 1 and 2 21 January 2014 14: 34
              +9
              Quote: Vasia Kruger
              In Ukraine, a politician Klitschko, in our Duma, Valuev is sitting ... is this normal at all?


              We Valuev does not climb the podium! am

              And does not offer nonsense, and is not recorded in the leaders.
            5. 31231
              31231 21 January 2014 20: 56
              +3
              In Ukraine, a politician Klitschko, in our Duma, Valuev is sitting ... is this normal at all?

              We like Karelin in the State Duma.
              Do you have something against this? Unlike Klitschka, they are not citizens of a foreign state and do not carry Western democracy to Russia.
              What is not normal in the fact that Valuev is in the Duma?
              In America, the president of actor Reagan, the governor of pitching and actor Schwarzenegger were not considered abnormal. Yes, many here comradely commemorate the comedian Governor Evdokimov.
              Is this normal?

              Can you explain sensibly what this is not normal?
          3. garlik
            garlik 21 January 2014 13: 13
            +26
            Listen to what you went wrong beat your brain. Have you ever watched his fights? He rarely hit him at all. So his health is excellent. You need to talk about more heinous things. About mankurtism is filthy. When a Russian sold out to Hans with arms and legs. He sold his filthy soul. He became a sort of priest hapon with a pumped-up torso.
            1. abdrah
              abdrah 21 January 2014 13: 41
              +2
              And my father told me in childhood that I shouldn’t even think of going to the boxing section, that boxers are specially pounded in the head before the competition, so that they get used to it if they miss it in the ring. Maybe it's true, is boxing knowledgeable? on this I did not go to boxing, although I really wanted to and started swimming ..
              1. Alexei
                Alexei 21 January 2014 20: 52
                +1
                Quote: abdrah
                boxers are specially pounded in the head before the competition to get used to if they miss in the ring. Maybe it's true, is boxing knowledgeable?

                Oh, shit. Hands, feet and torso - get used to the blows and partially lose sensitivity. And the head never, just as mother nature decreed; whether you hold the punch or not. You can of course pump up the neck, blows to the head that bends off are obtained either casually or lighter ... It sends a knockout that you cannot see, because when you see a flying fist, instinct is triggered and the head itself twitches.
            2. Fin
              Fin 21 January 2014 14: 34
              +3
              Quote: garlik
              Have you ever watched his fights? Rarely have you ever hit him.

              Good and many hit Lenox Lewis.
              1. garlik
                garlik 21 January 2014 15: 21
                +1
                a pair of uppercuts and a right lateral tearing eyebrow.
                1. 31231
                  31231 21 January 2014 21: 00
                  0
                  No, there were a lot more hits. I definitely won’t mention it, but it seems there were no uppercuts. Uppercut in the jaw is generally a dangerous thing, after it very often sniff canvas.
                  1. garlik
                    garlik 22 January 2014 11: 32
                    0
                    And you need to remember for sure. Once you write comments
            3. Jogan-xnumx
              Jogan-xnumx 21 January 2014 17: 17
              +2
              Quote: garlik
              Listen, well, what did you fix beat off the brains and beat off the brains.

              Do you think - no? Or Klitschko immediately hatched a champion? Before he became in boxing, he "worked" for a long time. And not only with "pears". Sparring too. And not only. And the result of any blow to the head is a concussion. Sometimes it is completely invisible, but it is there. And the consequences remain. I will not go into the consequences, the vastness of the Internet is huge, ask yourself if you're interested. hi
              1. garlik
                garlik 21 January 2014 17: 49
                +2
                Listen, it’s all understandable and standard, an average person is always intimidated, God forbid, the infection will be punctured. The fact is that the eccentric hasn’t been knocked down throughout his career. The career has developed like clockwork. which is quite a lucky type. Let's say Volodya tapped a tambourine solidly, there you can talk about something. Yes, and it will probably be a little later. Here eccentrics know several languages, and many cannot learn one.
                1. Jogan-xnumx
                  Jogan-xnumx 21 January 2014 20: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: garlik
                  standardly, the layman is always intimidated, God forbid, he will puncture the infection. The fact is that during his entire career the eccentric has never been knocked down. The career has developed like clockwork. Outstanding physical data + sports talent have created a great champion.

                  And what has the man in the street? You still don't understand anything? There is a good Russian proverb: "There is strength - no mind!" Have you heard of this? And what do you think, what and who is it about?
                  I spoke about ordinary blows to the head and their consequences, and not about Klitschko's sports career. The fact that he was not knocked down and his SPORTS talent-career does not mean that he has the talents of a politician, statesman, or at least the ability to do so. To this, you know, you also need to have certain inclinations. He excelled only in sports, and from sports - only in boxing. ALL! How he will succeed, say, in hockey is a big question. And how he "succeeds" in rhetoric - we all see. laughing And rhetoric is an integral part of the skills of just a good politician. I'm not talking about the outstanding ... And these usual punches, percussionists, not knockdowns at all, have already played a role in his level of intelligence.
                  The only thing I agree with you is with the word "eccentric", because everything is according to the unforgettable Vysotsky: "... so that with a cloth snout and in a Kalashny row ..." hi
                  1. garlik
                    garlik 21 January 2014 20: 30
                    +2
                    Yes, here I agree on all points. There is no contradiction. hi
                2. Camouflet
                  Camouflet 22 January 2014 00: 49
                  +1
                  Yes, Nicknames are great polyglots. You've probably heard them speak German and English? And you call it "language skills"? How many words a boxer needs, he knows so much. Or do you think he reads in the original of Schiller and Shakespeare?
            4. Camouflet
              Camouflet 22 January 2014 00: 40
              +1
              It’s enough to hit once, but aptly.
              And Vitaly has no brains there, he has jelly there.
        2. ele1285
          ele1285 21 January 2014 09: 38
          +8
          Quote: domokl
          But it seemed to me that the photo shows a political corpse ... write memoirs about the bastard Ukrainian people who did not want to live in geyrops

          If I’m smart, then Klitschko will flail against the banderlogs in a flurry, many who are not satisfied with Yanyk, but also against ragul, will support him. From the craving ... he is not on the way. the brain is absent, it will continue to be watered from the fire extinguisher, and may be dipped.
          1. domokl
            domokl 21 January 2014 09: 47
            +11
            Quote: ele1285
            Klitschko will sneak up against Banderlogs, many who are not satisfied with Yanyk, but also against Raguli, will support him

            I will allow myself a little to recall the last couple of months. They will pass a law prohibiting citizens of foreign states from holding the presidency ... With the caveat that a citizen of Ukraine must live there for at least 10 years.
            So, as leader Klitschko was blown away. I need another, who can be promoted to presidency.
            The only thing for him now is only the collapse of the state can somehow be beneficial. In other cases, the corpse
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 21 January 2014 13: 20
              0
              Quote: domokl
              . In other cases, a corpse

              Moreover, it is not a fact that virtual ...
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 21 January 2014 16: 44
              +1
              Quote: domokl
              I will allow myself a little to recall the last couple of months. They will pass a law prohibiting citizens of foreign states from holding the presidency ... With the caveat that a citizen of Ukraine must live there for at least 10 years.
              So, as leader Klitschko was blown away. I need another, who can be promoted to presidency.
              The only thing for him now is only the collapse of the state can somehow be beneficial. In other cases, the corpse

              Did I write that he was going to run for president? I say that he will be able to draw off votes from Yanyk and not only. I have not noticed corruption, I did not put forward nationalist slogans, I am young, though bad, I lack intelligence. And even our eternal Slavic pity for the offended ( z \ k fenya is not applied here). At the moment he is possible only as a leader of the opposition, and only among "moderate" Ukrainians, those who are happy in Europe and do not want to quarrel with Russia. In general, politically, this territorial entity is completely unpredictable and as a state did not take place. And what next, we'll do and see.
          2. demon184
            demon184 21 January 2014 11: 21
            +3
            Klitschko chose the wrong side
          3. CTEPX
            CTEPX 21 January 2014 13: 19
            +2
            Quote: ele1285
            Klitschko will unceremoniously shout against banderlogs

            Klitschko can not shout against banderlog. He is not paid for this)).
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 21 January 2014 17: 47
              0
              Quote: ctepx

              Klitschko can not shout against banderlog. He is not paid for this)).

              I can only say one thing, I don’t know what they are paying him for, I was not present, I think that you too, and if you were present, share the details.
        3. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 21 January 2014 09: 44
          +6
          Quote: domokl
          And it seemed to me that the photo shows a political corpse.

          That's for sure! A poured vampire, drinking the blood of the unfortunate Ukrainian people. The Maidanites had not to build a sling on the square, but a large aspen stake and plant such "leaders" on it.
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        5. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 21 January 2014 10: 07
          +2
          Maidan showed who he is a fire extinguisher
          And it would be better if the bucket of feces was splashed.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 13
            +20
            Quote: abrakadabre
            And it would be better if the bucket of feces was splashed.

            That you sho! The poor have already been "poisoned" there!
            Vitali Klitschko’s speech on Euromaidan caused bewilderment and laughter among the rally participants, and the video of this speech immediately became a hit on the Internet.
            The famous boxer, on the initiative of which has been undergoing an inconspicuous All-Ukrainian strike for two weeks now, during his speech from the stage, his tongue was braided and his eyes closed. Most of the words were very difficult for him, although he read the text from the tablet screen. At the same time, Vitaly staggered as after a knockdown.
            According to eyewitnesses, Vitaly smelled very strong of alcohol.
            As the leader of the Slavic Guard Vladimir Rogov noted in his comment: “We are looking forward to the 5th channel of honest news, to 1 + 1 of TSN hostile and other“ independent ”media stories that“ Vitaliy was poisoned, "that he was" mixed with water ", etc. It seems to me that he is taking the same “medicines” as Yuriy Lutsenko. ”
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 21 January 2014 11: 19
              +12
              That you sho! The poor have already been "poisoned" there!

              Think acne will go?
              Let's call it Yushchenko’s syndrome?
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              2. nickname 1 and 2
                nickname 1 and 2 21 January 2014 14: 44
                +2
                Quote: abrakadabre
                Let's call it Yushchenko’s syndrome?


                Lovely!

                maybe sprinkled with polonium?
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 21 January 2014 15: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: nick 1 and 2
                  maybe sprinkled with polonium?

                  Dustom. In the photo, ish how he flattened it.
              3. Corsair
                Corsair 21 January 2014 15: 05
                +1
                Quote: abrakadabre
                Think acne will go?
                Let's call it Yushchenko’s syndrome?

                It looks like this place, after it "turned" from the October Revolution Square into the "Maidan", became a carrier of the infection ...

                We need specialists - virologists and vaccination specialists. URGENT! IMMEDIATELY!
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            3. Tersky
              Tersky 21 January 2014 11: 34
              +5
              Quote: Egoza
              that “Vitaliy was poisoned”, that “alcohol was added to the water”, etc.

              Well yes laughing , the script is famous, everything is like by Yushch. And yet, all this tramp in Ukraine arose as a result of the fact that the most scanty that could be in any political arena of any country was pushed into the Ukrainian government - Nazism cattle, boor, redneck, ignorant, moral monster. And the most opposite - pushed together, each counting on its own dividends. What did this lead to? Nationalism, which upholds the mandatory priority development of its nation, has degenerated into Nazism, the most heinous and foul-smelling, what the hell! - smelly Nazism. Elena, hi !
              1. zzz
                zzz 21 January 2014 15: 57
                +5
                Bandera’s war is not so much against Yanukovych as against us, Russians and Russian speakers. They can’t come to terms with the fact that Ukraine, in fact, is Russian land. They want to erase from memory of people ANY MENTION, ANY FOLLOW that Ukraine is on Russian soil. The main problems of Ukraine is the appearance of a UKRAINIAN state on RUSSIAN land. This contradiction can only be resolved by the creation of the RUSSIAN STATE on RUSSIAN LAND.
                1. Nikotin13
                  Nikotin13 21 January 2014 17: 06
                  +1
                  this contradiction can only be resolved ... when they stop lying about the Golden Horde, Orthodox Christianity, Ukrainian nationalism, etc.
            4. ele1285
              ele1285 21 January 2014 17: 52
              +1
              Quote: Egoza
              Vitaly smelled very strong of alcohol.

              So what’s normal. While Klitschko drinks, he won’t win. We’ll drink everything, but we won’t disgrace boxing.
            5. 222222
              222222 21 January 2014 17: 53
              +3
              Egoza SU Today, 11:13 ↑ "his tongue was twisted and his eyes were closed. It was very difficult for him to get most of the words."
              He probably didn’t take the mouthpiece after the last fight ... (Kapa (German: Kappe - cap, cover, cover) is a flexible plastic device worn on the teeth in order to protect against sports injuries.)
              1. densh
                densh 21 January 2014 17: 59
                +3
                Quote: 222222
                He probably didn’t take out the mouthpiece after the last fight.

                HE-XE, and in alcohol he can withstand it for disinfection, that's where the bad breath comes from. drinks
        6. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 21 January 2014 14: 20
          +7
          Who will remember Klitschko ...
      4. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 21 January 2014 12: 15
        .
        Tremble in the coalition, the opposition, the corrupt authorities and the police, when there are such people in Ukraine. Today at 5 in the morning, while attempting to storm the Cossack, he gently pressed his lost son to his chest with the words "... but povotiska son."
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 12: 19
          +11
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          when there are such people in Ukraine. Today at 5 in the morning, while attempting to storm the Cossack, he gently pressed his lost son to his chest with the words "... but povotiska son."

          The trouble is Ukraine, since there are such people who, at five in the morning, drag a child to the Maidan, where there are street fights in full swing.
          Shaw Vrungel, where are your Afghans? Hde aunts or ce they schka hollow Golden Eagle yes wink
          1. Captain Vrungel
            Captain Vrungel 21 January 2014 13: 51
            .
            but THIS IS NOT A CHILD, THIS IS A POLICE OFFICER. Yes, only the authorities and the police are allowed to shoot ordinary people with traumatics and pneumatics. Their snipers are targeting a crowd of journalists with PRESS vests. doctors in uniform with a red cross, in order to intimidate. It is that not bandits, not bastards, shoot at the red cross. And the "titushki" who were storming together with the "golden eagle" tonight were tied up. news, as 20 dozen bandits on the scene of the DP, drenched their pants with fear and told who, for how much they hired, what armed them, up to drugs. And my "Afghans" are standing. And the provocateurs were dispersed, and the "golden eagle" was shown that they can turn the "brave" heroes "" to flight. I don’t know, Kiselev showed you "golden eagles" with wet pants pissed with fear. The dictatorship in Ukraine will not pass, and the bandit power, which provoked the massacre by dictatorial decrees approved in 5 seconds, will be swept away. It is a pity that the blood of people is spilled because of the fattening bastards of power who have decided. They have no limited rights, lawlessness for the people and the path to slavery. The dictatorship in Ukraine will not work. The entire people took up arms against the vile, fraudulent government, its vile methods of provocation, hostage-taking, threats, attacks on activists and journalists, who beat women in a ratio of 5 to one. Be ashamed of the novels that you support such bastards.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 13: 59
              +22
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              But THIS IS NOT A CHILD, THIS IS A POLICEMAN.

              Although yes, the photo is small, the face looks like a child, only ..
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              Yes, only the authorities and the police are allowed to shoot injuries and pneumatics in ordinary people

              These are ordinary people who break the bones of special forces. Until how long will you lie, calling black white ?????????????????
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              at. And my "Afghans" are standing.

              Where are they standing? Here is a live stream from the scene, show me at least one. Http://www.tsn.ua/kyiv/evromaydan-onlayn-translyaciya-s-maydana-nezalezhno
              sti-v-kieve-335253.html
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              Be ashamed of the novels that support such scum.

              You’re supporting frank fascists here as a scumbag who spat on all the laws and lost their human appearance for a long time. who are you rubbing here.
            2. Ustas
              Ustas 21 January 2014 14: 41
              +13
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              All the people ganged up

              Why are you talking to all the people?
              Ali on the steps of Nenko Ukraine riots?
            3. 222222
              222222 21 January 2014 16: 10
              +14
              Captain Vrungel (4) SU Today, 13:51 ↑ and THIS IS NOT A CHILD, THIS IS A POLICE OFFICER. Yes, only the authorities and the police are allowed to shoot ordinary people with traumatics and pneumatics. "
              If everything is all right with your eyesight, then I think it’s enough to understand this video of UNIAN (previously the toilet didn’t show this ..)
              http://www.unian.net/politics/874668-mvd-opublikovalo-video-s-goryaschimi-silovi
              kami.html
              These "innocent sheep" make a Molotov cocktail and burn people .. Pray to God that the special forces have strong nerves and there is no order to sweep this infection from the streets ..
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            5. DEMENTIY
              DEMENTIY 21 January 2014 16: 41
              +19
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              And my "Afghans" are standing.


              By any chance, not the "Avghans" who wear Pashtuns?

              To the question: "How do you feel about people carrying Pashtuns, the Mujahideen's headdress"? My good friend who served in Avgan (special forces, 8 years old) answered shortly - gentlemen without honor, mummers.
              1. Captain Vrungel
                Captain Vrungel 21 January 2014 17: 36
                .
                Good photography. These are the Afghans who turned around to the "guarantor" Yanukovych on the Walk of Fame during the laying ceremony, as a sign of deep disrespect for the commander-in-chief.
                Your "good" friend could not serve for 8 years in Afghanistan (not in, but in F). And then it was not fashion to be called "special forces". And he does not know what this headdress is called and who wears it, and why.
                If a person does not think like novels, he is a Bandera and even a fascist. Fascists in the form of "golden eagle"
                (Gopnik gangsters in power form. Not to be confused with soldiers of the BB (cannon fodder).
                It is these creatures who are beaten by a crowd of female journalists and deputies. It is these bastards who purposefully shoot at journalists and doctors. The Red Cross is not a TABU for them to intimidate. It was they who beat the soldiers of the VV who tried to protect the protesters. They forgot about honor and conscience when they were led by green presidents under their noses. They will go to mother. If for you these ki are the army and authority, then you are real accomplices of the fascists and fascist criminals who crawled into power.
                Real soldiers, honest people are standing in the ranks. despising and not recognizing the prisoner as their commander in chief.
                Take off the hat in front of them, Dmitry. You and Romanov’s gut are thin. You do not live your own mind, you do not know how to think and analyze. So, mud lovers for cheap PR.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 17: 50
                  +12
                  Quote: Captain Vrungel
                  Yanukovych on the Walk of Fame turned around during the laying on, as a sign of deep disrespect for the prisoner-in-chief.

                  So this photo is not even from maidan, then it’s understandable. Vrungel, where are they on the maidan?
                  Quote: Captain Vrungel
                  If a person thinks not like novels, he is a Bandera and even a fascist

                  When I asked you why you are on the side of the Bandera from UNSO, didn’t you write to me-Enemy of my enemy + my friends? Your words? - yours. So what are you building yourself out of here.
                  Quote: Captain Vrungel
                  It is these creatures who are beaten by a crowd of female journalists and deputies. It is these bastards who purposefully shoot at journalists and doctors.

                  Do not burst from bile.
                  Quote: Captain Vrungel
                  They forgot about honor and conscience.

                  It lost conscience when you lie in each of your komenta.Eto you lost honor when Bandera recorded as a friend.
                  Quote: Captain Vrungel
                  . It was they who beat the soldiers of VV,

                  you mean this video, they beat a soldier of VV, who later died in the hospital, where Berkut is here, answer the liar
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 21 January 2014 18: 01
                    +2
                    You again do not accept PM
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 18: 13
                      +1
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      You again do not accept PM

                      Cleaned
                  2. densh
                    densh 21 January 2014 18: 07
                    +6
                    Poor, poor patriots, they threw flowers, cookies and bottles of champagne into "Berkut". And those, ungrateful and disgusting, were traumatic. crying
                  3. MAG
                    MAG 21 January 2014 19: 23
                    +6
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbBzWVbhiA4 С 12 ночи на среду вступит закон о митингах и мне кажется Беркут нацистов за ЭТО накажет а если команды на разгон не будет то милиция будет иметь полное моральное право разойтись по домам и посмотреть как "командиры" разрулят.
                2. DEMENTIY
                  DEMENTIY 21 January 2014 18: 02
                  +13
                  VRUngel answer briefly.

                  Not a single veteran of the Great Patriotic War in a German skullcap, or anyone in sight! Unlike your "friends". AND! And I'm not accustomed to breaking caps and bending knees. Dot.
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                4. cooper
                  cooper 21 January 2014 23: 40
                  .
                  Plusonul CAPTAIN and OFFICER !!! There are few of them, all just snot on wood, stars in a glass with vodka but neither honor nor conscience. Golden eagle, this is a disgrace to Ukraine.
            6. garlik
              garlik 21 January 2014 18: 13
              +10
              Hey, what are you lying to? Where are the snipers, where is the dictatorship? They’re even afraid of pouring water over this evil spirits, they’re pouring in front of them. Stop lying. Enough of all the Ukrainian channels, which oh, mumble from morning till night in their meanness and muck
            7. zardoz
              zardoz 21 January 2014 19: 46
              +6
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              IT IS NOT A CHILD, IT IS A POLICEMAN

              This is not a policeman, but an American policeman. He has a San Francisco police patch
              1. Corsair
                Corsair 21 January 2014 20: 25
                +2
                Quote: zardoz
                This is not a policeman, but an American policeman. He has a San Francisco police patch
                And the helmet with the sight from there ...
            8. Sergh
              Sergh 21 January 2014 22: 25
              +3
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              THIS IS A POLICEMAN

              No, this is an American policeman. American helmet, a seven-pointed star sticks out on the left chest (it is not smeared with a shop). I’m lying shove, weakly troll people.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 21 January 2014 23: 04
                +1
                Quote: Sergh
                Lie down shove weakly

                I don’t just get along, the photo is quite famous - from the showdown in San Francisco after the Giants defeated the Tigers of Detroit in the match of the MLB World Series championship
                http://rusrep.ru/article/2012/10/30/sanfranciscogiants
            9. Shur
              Shur 22 January 2014 00: 20
              0
              And why are we called "ka_tsa_py"? Is it out of respect? What a one-sided opinion .. If you find out for the truth soon, you will find out the lie late ...
            10. sssla
              sssla 22 January 2014 01: 00
              +3
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              See the news, how 20 dozen bandits on the DP stage, drenched their pants with fear and told who, for how much they hired, what armed them, up to drugs. And my "Afghans" are standing. And the provocateurs were dispersed, and the "golden eagle" was shown that they can turn the "brave" heroes "" to flight. I don't know, Kiselev showed you the "golden eagles" with wet pants pissed with fear.

              2 dozen bandits on stage? And you, my friend, trust the channels * CHESNY NEWS * well then it’s your trouble! Believe more 5 channel TVI 1 + 1, etc. But is it not a provocation? And filmed not for you but for politically illiterate zapadentsev and the West that there would be a reason for the Justification Berkutyat? Maybe the conscripts you wanted to say? Well, what do you want from 18-year-old boys who are burned by bad people and the boys have an order? And do not privatize the opinion of the whole people
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              The whole people took up arms against the infamous, brazen power, its vile methods of provocation, hostage-taking, threats, attacks on activists and journalists who beat women
              What did you ask each inhabitant for his opinion? Well, yes you can))) I especially liked when your oboschuyu mishap counted 20 thousand on moydanka in 500 minutes))))) Let's go on daring On people like you near West and skim the cream . Adieu
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            13. Anper
              Anper 22 January 2014 02: 21
              +1
              Well, what is it! No matter the answer. so the defeat of logic. It seems that a fellow countryman, from Ukraine, is easier to understand, I support that gang power (this is in every comment), but after all, everything else, as always, is nonsense.
              1.tremble in a coalitionIn which?
              2.only authorities and police are allowed to bullet traumatism and pneumatics in ordinary people who are bulletted by paving stones and Molotov’s cauldrons into power and the police
              3. The dictatorship in Ukraine will not pass,Especially all manifestations of dictatorship in the form of brutal suppression of protests are now visible on Grushevsky
              4. than armed, up to drugs. ??
              5. All the people ganged up, Already one and a half thousand hamadrils and knocking gibbons.
              6. And my "Afghans" are standing. And the provocateurs were dispersed, and the "golden eagle" was shown that they can turn the "brave" heroes "" to flight.Where are the Afghans? On the empty Maidan - so little honor, it's not on Grushevsky just to take away canisters with incendiary mixture or at least one drin from the maydaun. Or to protect against chest injuries and pneumatics ordinary people
              7. beating women at a ratio of 5 per one.It’s strange somehow they are being beaten - and this brainless fool, and Ilyenko, and Lutsenko — we see injuries, and who beat, somewhere in secret behind seven seals.
              THIS IS ALREADY A SYSTEM, THIS IS ALREADY A DIAGNOSIS!
        2. Booby
          Booby 21 January 2014 13: 00
          +11
          The policeman had to load the "Cossack" scoreboard with a helmet.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 13: 23
            0
            Quote: Bukh
            The policeman had to load the "Cossack" scoreboard with a helmet

            There is no cop in the photo, here the daddy dragged his son onto the maidan.
            1. Captain Vrungel
              Captain Vrungel 21 January 2014 13: 54
              .
              Policeman, novels, policeman and with wet pants. On the street -12.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 14: 04
                +17
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                policeman and with wet pants

                Well, yes, and this is a peaceful Afghan who is trying to give Ukraine freedom
              2. Scoun
                Scoun 21 January 2014 16: 45
                +8
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                Policeman, novels, policeman and with wet pants. On the street -12.

                And why are you happy? this is your policeman, your citizen, and the "revolutions" of Syria Libya also began .... and you (as a comrade laid out the picture) to evil "freeze the ears of your grandmother" and with gibbering jump on the rake .... masochists have not died yet. . pancake.
              3. infinite silence ...
                infinite silence ... 21 January 2014 22: 56
                +3
                You don’t have to wash your pants, any women ... all your women’s socks in Italy and Greece wash ... that’s why you get bile ....
        3. TS3sta3
          TS3sta3 21 January 2014 20: 24
          +16
          http://rusrep.ru/article/2012/10/30/sanfranciscogiants/
          Sudden hug
          29 October, San Francisco, USA. San Francisco Giants baseball team fan and policeman celebrate Giants ’victory over the Detroit Tigers in a MLB World Series Championship match with a policeman

          what does the Maidan, the Cossack and his son?
          1. densh
            densh 21 January 2014 20: 45
            +10
            Quote: TS3sta3
            29 October, San Francisco, USA. San Francisco Giants baseball team fan and policeman celebrate Giants ’victory over the Detroit Tigers in a MLB World Series Championship match with a policeman

            Vrungel-congratulations to you negative .Good troll caught, fatty. lol
          2. crbvbyjr
            crbvbyjr 21 January 2014 22: 22
            +5
            Well, what do you want from VRUngel
          3. GorynychZmey78
            GorynychZmey78 21 January 2014 23: 40
            +1
            Quote: TS3sta3
            http://rusrep.ru/article/2012/10/30/sanfranciscogiants/
            Sudden hug
            29 October, San Francisco, USA. San Francisco Giants baseball team fan and policeman celebrate Giants ’victory over the Detroit Tigers in a MLB World Series Championship match with a policeman

            what does the Maidan, the Cossack and his son?


            well, for sure!
            sorry immediately did not see your post
            and I smell something unclean here laughing
            Well, but it’s clear that what an orange rag hangs in your hand is the symbolism of the club! and a baseball cap too from there!
            to the Americans, they’re insolent even rootlessly open upright provoke people by throwing this on the air
          4. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 22 January 2014 08: 32
            +1
            "TS3sta3" what does the Maidan, the Cossack and his son have to do with it? "
            Hmm ... somehow it turned out bad ... heh heh ... Vrungel, Vrungel ... heh heh ... now I have a question, but is he definitely an Afghan? In light of recent events?
            And then in my life I met two pseudo-Afghans. One of them served in Afghanistan at the Kanash railway station. Despite the fact that there are no railways in Afghanistan at all ...
        4. Sakmagon
          Sakmagon 21 January 2014 20: 50
          +8
          Today at 5 in the morning, while attempting to storm the Cossack, he gently pressed his lost son to his chest with the words "... but povotiska son."

          CHEAPER LIGHT !!!
          HERE AND THE WHOLE "VRUNGEL", BEFORE A DIP!This photo from San Francisco is over a year old!


          But I wonder how many there are? IN FACT SOMETHING FROM "GROWED"?... AU, OLD?
        5. 31231
          31231 21 January 2014 21: 07
          +2
          Today at 5 am, when trying to storm, the Cossack gently pressed his lost son to his chest with the words

          What kind of Cossacks are these with European creative portacs on their shoulders?
          Captain, did you command any ship at all?
          1. densh
            densh 21 January 2014 21: 16
            +3
            Quote: 31231
            Captain, did you command any ship at all?

            He even knows the foreign word "trump". laughing
            1. 31231
              31231 21 January 2014 21: 41
              +2
              He even knows the foreign word "trump"

              Donald Trump? laughing
              1. densh
                densh 21 January 2014 21: 46
                +1
                No TRUMP - [abbr. <eng. tramp vessel <tramp tramp + vessel ship] a cargo ship engaged in shipments subject to the availability of cargo, without a fixed schedule; chartered on a charter basis. hi
        6. GorynychZmey78
          GorynychZmey78 21 January 2014 23: 29
          0
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Tremble in the coalition, the opposition, the corrupt authorities and the police, when there are such people in Ukraine. Today at 5 in the morning, while attempting to storm the Cossack, he gently pressed his lost son to his chest with the words "... but povotiska son."


          R U N G E L L! WHAT IT IS US COSSACK! ! !
          in kyiv shas it seems ten frosts
          many you saw naked kakzaks in Kiev at five in the morning in a ten-degree maroz laughingthis time
          2) see (a so-called golden eagle employee) on your chest a shiny star-shaped plaque! BERKUT SUCH DOES NOT USE such insignia are used only in America! ! and the number on the helmet is 89! but take a closer look, it’s just not the shape of a golden eagle or the shape of the Ukrainian riot police!
          and the so-called you (the Cossack) with strange European inclinations)) has an orange rag in his hands with some English letters and an obviously lacking attribution to more than one symbolism of the present maidan
          Yes, and the tattoo on the shoulder in the form of glasses clearly says not in his favor; I want to tell you about its symbolism wink
          do you even watch that for spreading chtoli!
        7. morpogr
          morpogr 22 January 2014 00: 57
          0
          He did his duty, but you are a mishandled Cossack whose?
      5. densh
        densh 21 January 2014 14: 25
        +19
        On the Maidan, there was no time for the races, the real face of Svoboda got out.
      6. tomcat117
        tomcat117 21 January 2014 22: 05
        0
        The end of the boxer's career is the role of Harlequin in the theater of the absurd.
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    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 09: 32
      +17
      Quote: askort154
      In the photo. Beauty!

      This is a candidate for the presidency of independent Ukraine Vitali Klitschko, a party pseudonym Ochko laughing
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      2. Greyfox
        Greyfox 21 January 2014 09: 42
        +53
        Found on the net. I’m laughing. I guess Batman saw ....
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 09: 45
          +17
          Quote: Greyfox
          I’m laughing.

          The face of a true democrat without makeup. How many children have you scared right now, you can’t even imagine laughing
        2. askort154
          askort154 21 January 2014 09: 53
          +15
          Greyfox ... Found on the net. I’m laughing. Betman probably saw it.

          Gay after politics!
        3. zzz
          zzz 21 January 2014 09: 57
          +6
          A contest for the best signature for this photo is announced! lol
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 21 January 2014 10: 58
            +6
            Quote: zzz
            A contest for the best signature for this photo is announced! lol


            Goblin Klitschko the Terrible surrounded by orcs.
            1. askort154
              askort154 21 January 2014 13: 36
              +5
              RUSS .. A contest for the best signature on this photo is announced!

              Boys ... where am I? Already .. president, or else ... in the Nagdown?
          2. DEMENTIY
            DEMENTIY 21 January 2014 16: 45
            +3
            Quote: zzz
            A contest for the best signature for this photo is announced! lol



            "COKE DOES NOT HAPPEN!"
            1. gladiatorakz
              gladiatorakz 21 January 2014 18: 26
              +4
              Quote: DEMENTIY
              COKE DOESN'T HAPPEN! "

              You can do this: Tearing to homosexuals, mug? Dial your scoreboard.
        4. brainkiller
          brainkiller 21 January 2014 10: 27
          +2
          yes this is a great meme =)) I hope this particular photo will be on history books =))
        5. Charley
          Charley 21 January 2014 11: 23
          +9
          I don’t understand him, and his mouth was torn or something, or lipstick
        6. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 21 January 2014 12: 16
          +18
          I've nearly died with this)))
          1. zzz
            zzz 21 January 2014 12: 51
            0
            Well, they made fun)))))))
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        9. Pehmore
          Pehmore 21 January 2014 17: 56
          +3
          The failed pop Gapon of the 21st century, in Ukrainian.
        10. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... 21 January 2014 22: 43
          +1
          Not every chick is a nightingale ... Not every Vovchik is Macedonian ...
          1. 31231
            31231 21 January 2014 23: 00
            0
            Not every chick is a nightingale ... Not every Vovchik is Macedonian ...

            Vovchik ?! It seems like Vitalik, and Vovchik is still doing what suits him.
            1. infinite silence ...
              infinite silence ... 21 January 2014 23: 50
              0
              Not every chick is a nightingale ... Not every Vitalik is Macedonian ... lol
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        12. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 21 January 2014 23: 54
          +1
          the phrase - "give pi..y" from the lips of Klitschko after this photo seems ambiguous laughing
      3. S-200
        S-200 21 January 2014 10: 10
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is a candidate for the presidency of independent Ukraine Vitaliy Ochko

        I will introduce Kolya Valu as the president of All Russia ... wassat
        and KlIchku is technically pushed away from the Ukrainian presidency, he is trying in vain! lol
    3. makst83
      makst83 21 January 2014 09: 40
      +10
      They, rEvolutionaries, apparently are not familiar with the dictum of the leader of the Great French Revolution, Georges Jacques Danton, "The revolution is like Saturn: it devours its children!" hi
    4. Grenader
      Grenader 21 January 2014 09: 54
      +6
      Quote: askort154
      In the photo. Beauty! So it would be like with every modern politician, you would look less eager for power.

      And he goes, beautiful, so powdered.
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    6. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 January 2014 10: 05
      +1
      nice to see
    7. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 21 January 2014 10: 06
      +10
      Powder suits him. Also add lipstick, manicure, any tights there. And here he is! Ideal Euro-Oriented Politician laughing
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    9. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 21 January 2014 10: 45
      +3
      The provocateur Klitschko, trained by the Americans, got his own. So, everyone who provokes and warms up riot and riots on the streets would receive his own "pendel", then maybe it became clear in my head that it is impossible to provoke hooligans and criminals.
      Political goals must be tackled peacefully and not in the streets.
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      2. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 21 January 2014 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: vladimirZ
        it may have cleared up in my head

        Quote: vladimirZ
        Political goals must be tackled peacefully and not in the streets.


        In any case, not "I WANT TO IN THE EU, A-A-A-A-A" like "I want to get married"

        How to marry in the EU: take modest and worthy, and who "steal" (change) is not worthy !!!! wassat

        and without dowry? is it real?
    10. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 January 2014 12: 03
      0
      Today, at Lavrov's press conference, a Bulgarian journalist quoted a Hungarian proverb: "The situation in Central and Eastern Europe is lower than a frog's ass." The Ukrainians began to realize this and expressed their true attitude to Klitschko.
    11. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 21 January 2014 12: 16
      +4
      The leader of the opposition party UDAR, Verkhovna Rada deputy Vitali Klitschko is a resident of the USA - has a status that allows him to live and work in the United States, as well as requiring him to pay taxes there. This is evidenced by documents published by the Law and Business newspaper on January 20.

      According to the publication, Klitschko filed a tax return containing the US Social Security Number (SSN - Social Security Number). This unique number is used by the United States Government to identify its citizens and residents, and to record their earnings. According to the submitted declaration, such numbers are also available to members of the Klitschko family - wife and children.

      Klitschko’s income in 2012, according to the declaration, amounted to almost $ 12 million (almost 100 million hryvnia).
      1. abdrah
        abdrah 21 January 2014 13: 59
        +10
        Klitschko’s income in 2012, according to the declaration, amounted to almost 12 million dollars (almost 100 million hryvnias) - He never could understand why the heck does he need this circus with such income? there is a wife, there are children, there are incomes too, but what for the circus?
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 21 January 2014 14: 04
          +5
          why the hell does he need this circus with such income? there is a wife, there are children, there are incomes too, but what for the circus?
          Boredom, spleen ...
          Boxer adrenaline when given painfully in the snout no longer inserts. He also wants a fire extinguisher in his face, well, or at worst the baseball bats in jo ... u
          laughing
        2. Pehmore
          Pehmore 21 January 2014 18: 08
          +1
          Power is worse than adrenaline.
        3. cooper
          cooper 21 January 2014 23: 48
          0
          You don’t understand this, not a single sausage man is alive.
          PS.All you talk about how Russian people are not mercantile.
      2. cooper
        cooper 21 January 2014 23: 45
        0
        Any person working or having a business in the USA and paying taxes there is a resident of this country. Azarov has a house in Vienna and he, as a homeowner, also pays real estate tax there.
    12. lelikas
      lelikas 21 January 2014 14: 34
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      In the photo. Beauty!

      But I didn’t understand - why is everything around the photo clean and my brother hit with a 1 (or 2) dust bag?
    13. Christian
      Christian 21 January 2014 16: 25
      +9
      Oh you!!! And Klitschko ...
    14. garlik
      garlik 21 January 2014 20: 35
      0
      Video Clean Inferno!
    15. Camouflet
      Camouflet 22 January 2014 00: 15
      +1
      He thought that he would only hand out autographs, and in the meantime, the people would bring him in his arms to the president’s office. An, no, there’s how it turned out!

      The clown had to train the brains, not a pear to thresh.
    16. mihailow56
      mihailow56 22 January 2014 01: 48
      0
      They made fun of all of Europe, showed simplicity ...
      Who will open their eyes to them?

      A fire extinguisher will be his ...
  2. smel
    smel 21 January 2014 08: 58
    +4
    One can only hope that all the lessons of the crisis and the adopted laws will benefit people.
    1. domokl
      domokl 21 January 2014 09: 23
      +3
      The benefit will be only when people themselves understand what they want ... Maidan, after all, also stands for it ... All for the people and prosperity of Ukraine, and the result .. We see.
  3. zzz
    zzz 21 January 2014 09: 04
    +24
    The fascist rebellion under the guise of a struggle for European integration showed the following: Ukraine as an independent state ceased to exist ... So-so, territory ...
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 21 January 2014 09: 42
      +11
      Quote: zzz
      Ukraine as an independent state ceased to exist ... So-so, territory ...

      And when was it a state? Since 91, this misunderstanding has simply been a territorial entity. The mistakes, sadly, are not Soviet national politics. We have the same thing. The decree is a prime example.
  4. makarov
    makarov 21 January 2014 09: 05
    +15
    There is a video on the network where, tonight, Yatsenyuk openly sent the crowd to sherry. He had a very dumbfounded and sad look.
    1. NOMADE
      NOMADE 21 January 2014 09: 21
      +14
      Everything, the "leaders" of the opposition have played out, the "revolution" is out of control. History doesn't teach them anything .. Klitschko was also sent out into the open when poured from a fire extinguisher .. He was also crazy, even in the photo you can see it ..)
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 21 January 2014 10: 30
        +4
        Quote: NOMADE
        Everything, the "leaders" of the opposition have played out, the "revolution" is out of control. History doesn't teach them anything .. Klitschko was also sent out into the open when poured from a fire extinguisher .. He was also crazy, even in the photo you can see it ..)


        Some make a revolution, but others take advantage of it and rule it. Of course, in this case this is not a revolution, but still, you can’t see the authorities like Lutsenko-alcoholic, Tyagnibok-Natsik upstart and Klitschko-Broken Brain.
        1. demon184
          demon184 21 January 2014 11: 27
          +2
          The revolution has a beginning, the revolution has no end. A vitalik is so similar to him
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 09: 34
      +1
      Quote: makarov
      There is a video on the network where tonight Yatsenyuk openly sent the crowd to sherry

      And the link is hde?
      1. DMB87
        DMB87 21 January 2014 09: 38
        +21
        Probably this:


        1. zzz
          zzz 21 January 2014 10: 05
          +5
          The oil-masons rule, they are condemned to slaughter an undead juvenile, and all these Yaytsenyuki and others like them are hiding behind them, then they will pick up new suicide bombers ...
        2. askort154
          askort154 21 January 2014 10: 20
          +12
          DMB87 This is probably:

          Thank you! Apparently Yatsenyuk does not "know" the Russian language at all. He is persistently sent, and he
          does not react. But the press will say that it was masked agents shouting something in Russian, which I don’t understand.
          1. avt
            avt 21 January 2014 10: 44
            +7
            Quote: askort154
            ! Apparently Yatsenyuk does not "know" the Russian language at all. He is persistently sent, and he
            does not react.

            He simply perceives this as a call for a European choice, for him this is a welcome goal. laughing Here is languishing and abides.
          2. demon184
            demon184 21 January 2014 11: 28
            0
            it must be sent correctly in heurite
          3. densh
            densh 21 January 2014 14: 41
            +3
            Quote: askort154
            DMB87 This is probably:

            Thank you! Apparently Yatsenyuk does not "know" the Russian language at all. He is persistently sent, and he
            does not react.

            So this is democracy - you are sent ON, K, B, and you have the right to choose. laughing
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 21 January 2014 14: 51
              +1
              Denis hi
              And what about Freedom is not what is not heard and not visible! Where is the fascist, where is interesting?

              Here the news appeared!
              KIEV, December 20. The leaders of the Ukrainian opposition Arseniy Yatsenyuk (leader of the Batkivshchyna faction, Alexander Turchinov (head of the Central Headquarters of the Batkivshchyna party) and Oleg Tyagnibok (Svoboda) are involved in the coup case, Yatsenyuk said.

              "The Prosecutor General has just stated this clearly. This is Article 109 (seizure of state power) of the Criminal Code," quotes the leader of the Batkivshchyna faction, "Ukrainian Truth".

              In addition to Turchinov, Tyagnibok and Yatsenyuk, according to his information, 8 people are also in the process.

              When asked if the leader of the UDAR faction Vitali Klitschko is involved in this case, Yatsenyuk said that he did not know this and said "only what he saw."

              We will remind, earlier, the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych said that three people were directly involved in the decision on the violent dispersal of Euromaidan on the night of November 29-30. According to him, in the interests of the investigation, he cannot yet name the names of the people responsible for the events on the night of November 29-30. "In the near future, we will say this publicly," the head of state promised.
              Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2013/12/20/1213868.html
              1. densh
                densh 21 January 2014 15: 25
                +7
                Good day, Eugene! hi
                Here is an excerpt from LJ from Kiev:
                The authorities took a wait and see attitude, as before. Policemen suffer because of this, because no one gives an order for more drastic measures. It is safe to say that the injured Interior Ministry officers are on the conscience of Yanukovych and his entourage.
                Police dancing from the defense. Their hands are tied.
                The opposition has once again shown itself to be stupid mediocre freaks (let them sue me, I will prove it in court). They mobilized people, but are not able to either lead them or restrain them. In fact, they do not control anything.
                Klitschko received a jet from a crowd in the muzzle of a fire extinguisher and was called by it (but at least he tried). Yatsenyuk is capable of nothing but screams from the rostrum. I didn’t fix Tyagnibok at all, it seems that he somewhere in the caches breaks the toilet bricks (because they will beat not in the passport, but in the face). By the way, where Ulezhka Frotman doesn’t even know the press services of the Fuhrer Aron Yetz.
                Opportunist adventurers such as Lutsenko and Danilyuk will try in every way to lead what is happening, but since they don’t understand what needs to be done and why, they won’t succeed.
                Kiev residents do not care about what is happening.
                1. Sid.74
                  Sid.74 21 January 2014 15: 43
                  +2
                  Quote: densh
                  I did not fix it at all, it seems he is breaking a toilet bowl with bricks somewhere in the caches (because they will not beat my passport, but my face).
                  I thought of this, it means that the term still shines, once I have sunk to the bottom, or I am afraid of reprisals!
                  But why does Yanukovych draw as long as the Ukrainians can wait while the chaos spreads, there is no longer just Bandera but stupid marginal fascists they need to be quickly dispersed and cruel!
                  Probably many people think so, but what’s going on in the meandering of Yanukovych is unknown! Maybe there’sn’t enough political will or a team is waiting for us from the USA, only the Europeans and Americans have already condemned it, there are a lot of questions and there are no answers!
                  1. densh
                    densh 21 January 2014 16: 04
                    +7
                    Zhenya, I’ll finish uploading the material because I agree with the author 100% and there is an answer to your question:
                    But in any case, I immediately have several questions in the radicals:
                    1. Who will head the interim government if the Geta Gang happens by chance? After all, the opposition-three were actually sent to them on Sunday. As my old colleague says, “who are these holy people”?
                    2. What is the action plan? Sorry, I saw several such “plans” today, all of them on toilet paper. Rewriting the Constitution with the involvement of church authorities - rude! Firstly, because we have a secular state (glory to Allah), and secondly, because not a single pop knows a damn thing in constitutional law. And they can write only populist nonsense, which no one will fulfill.
                    The remaining items of these “plans” are just as crazy.
                    3. What, ahem, the best thing to storm an empty building on Sunday? Once again! Not Mezhigorye, not the place where the president is, but an empty office. Are you working for Yanukovych?
                    Moreover, since you did not seize power within half an hour, now you are doomed. All your running and knocking that went all night and goes on is a meaningless imitation of action. And, most importantly, the opposing three will give you up, including Ulezhka-Fuhrer. To the argument.
                    For several years I studied the theory, tactics and practice of revolutions in different countries. So revolutions do not, so they do not achieve results.
                    Do you give him a reason to introduce a direct dictatorship? Congratulations, you do it. You have already given an occasion to introduce “laws of January 16”, now you have given an occasion to introduce direct presidential rule and dissolve and begin to persecute the opposition. Okay, okay!
                    And after the next mutilated cops, the security forces can get draconian rights, moreover, on legal grounds, which will be approved by the EU and the USA (does anyone else have doubts about this?). “Good Night, Right Sector,” write applications for the Darwin Award, deserve it.
                    Do you demand an early presidential election? So, after your Sunday Sabbath, Yanukovych is guaranteed to WIN.
                    But you don’t have a brain to think about goals, objectives and consequences ... it carries you ...
                    1. Sid.74
                      Sid.74 21 January 2014 16: 51
                      +2
                      Quote: densh
                      Now you gave a reason to introduce direct presidential rule and disband and begin to persecute the opposition. Ma-free!

                      Actually the author to this and led! And what happens with the police 200 guys in hospitals! Oppy in full w., And Yanukovych is the wisest of all smarter than all on horseback, and with a cleared election campaign for themselves and without opponents! If the Führer and the hare are imprisoned and a boxer in Hamburg!
                      Such a thought was but terribly not pleasant in content!
                      Suppose everything calmed down and stabilized. Yanukovych won the race and again in the queens, which further, again will start flirting with the EU, well then there wasn’t any sense in this, then the east will rise, and if in the CU, what is this, a sly Kremlin strategy and the desire once and for all to discourage the desire of Ukrainians Maidan! A strange unpleasant picture emerges!
                      1. densh
                        densh 21 January 2014 17: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: Sid.74
                        A strange unpleasant picture looms!

                        Such garbage, little ones. hi
                        By the way, on the Main page, in the "Politics" section, we posted an appeal from the "Oplot" leader - be sure to look. good
                      2. Sid.74
                        Sid.74 21 January 2014 17: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: densh
                        posted the appeal of the leader of the "Oplot" - be sure to look.

                        Well Denis, and your interesting stuff makes you think about the pitfalls of politics! yes
                      3. Sid.74
                        Sid.74 21 January 2014 17: 59
                        +11
                        That's actually the appeal of the stronghold to Ukraine! Emotional thing and meaningful! Let it be here, and maybe someone will be interested!
                      4. densh
                        densh 21 January 2014 18: 13
                        +1
                        Zhenya, you're wrong. The leader of Oplot is E. Zhilin, not Klitschko.
                        hi
                      5. Sid.74
                        Sid.74 21 January 2014 18: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: densh
                        Zhenya, you're wrong. The leader of Oplot is E. Zhilin, not Klitschko.

                        Denis did not understand? I see the video of Yevgeny Zilin 12.59 in time! Ukraine is called ATTENTION, appeal POTS !!!
                        What is wrong! Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EogwRNbIUTM
                      6. densh
                        densh 21 January 2014 18: 46
                        +1
                        Probably a glitch happened, it was a nickname, I answer yes .And now really Zhilin. request
                      7. Sid.74
                        Sid.74 21 January 2014 18: 49
                        +1
                        And I already thought that, well, I’ve been hooked over Ukrainian sites and broadcasts. laughing Lightweight, but it was already wanted to shake up the computer! bully
                2. Des10
                  Des10 22 January 2014 08: 19
                  +1
                  Thank you. At least one clear, decisive and sovereign speech.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 21 January 2014 10: 48
    +4
    Quote: DMB87
    Probably this:

    Another "leader", Rabbit Senya ...
    Squalor.
    1. sichevik
      sichevik 21 January 2014 11: 22
      +4
      Something of the third "leader" is not visible or audible. I mean pushing. Otherwise, it somehow turns out unfairly - one of the extinguishers was doused, the other was sent in plain text to where he came from. But what about the third? Stirred the booze after all three of us. And only two are puffing ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 21 January 2014 11: 25
        +10
        Quote: sichevik
        Something of the third "leader" is not visible or audible

        Digging caches in the west laughing
      2. Borz
        Borz 21 January 2014 13: 20
        +5
        In the grandfather’s caches, he is waiting for the bucket. How Galician is it!
        1. DMB87
          DMB87 22 January 2014 08: 57
          +1
          Caught in the internet -
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      3. DMB87
        DMB87 21 January 2014 14: 09
        +3
        He already said everything:

        1. APASUS
          APASUS 21 January 2014 15: 34
          +1
          Klitschko about tomorrow briefly | Today, tomorrow will be yesterday

          If you use your head to turn your jaw!
          1. sichevik
            sichevik 21 January 2014 19: 55
            +1
            No-e there he still eats.
        2. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... 21 January 2014 22: 38
          +1
          Yes, it ... like Ellochka the Ogre, we’ll start tearing up quotes soon))) wretchedness ...
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  • Booby
    Booby 21 January 2014 13: 07
    +2
    That people do neher ...)))
  • densh
    densh 21 January 2014 14: 53
    +4
    Quote: DMB87
    Probably this:

    From the video, we can conclude that the crowd is increasingly falling out of the hands of its leadership, more and more acting on the principle of Porthos "I fight because I fight." The initial goals of the Maidan have long been forgotten.
    By the way, if you look closely, Yatsenyuk has protection from professionals. He does not rely on his associates. wink
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 21 January 2014 16: 02
    +2
    I think in Yatsyk's head the fact that he is not at all steering the situation is already beginning to become clear. there will come a moment when he locks himself up somewhere in an office with a chikushka, convulsively shaking his legs will try to light a cigarette, and finally realizes a simple truth: they were just played and now the process has reached a new level. And he can no longer influence him. If only someone in the crowd accidentally loaded a tyagnyboku into the skull with a SVD ... or better with VSS with sp6, to be sure !!! I think that would be a great start to peace talks!
    1. densh
      densh 21 January 2014 17: 50
      +5
      Quote: silver_roman
      will lock himself up somewhere in the office with a chikushka, convulsively shaking legs will try to smoke "Pryluki son"

      Novel hi , but the trend can be traced. The pedalik has already given a performance before the "most respectable public" in a drunken form. So God himself ordered the Rabbit.
  • alone
    alone 21 January 2014 21: 07
    0
    This video says only one thing. The people don’t need the one or the other. People are just tired of the gang of power and these too. The election is the only way out.
  • 31231
    31231 21 January 2014 21: 34
    +2
    good
    Bulk and other liberalists on the Swamp Natsik also trolls. One can see the fate of these oppositionists alone - a dull gamna.
  • tomcat117
    tomcat117 21 January 2014 23: 34
    0
    on the Maidan, on the Maidan, ON MANDA, ON MANDA, ON MANDA, ON MANDA !!!
  • infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... 22 January 2014 00: 34
    +1
    Is this really not enough? .... That says it all ... Convulsions are insignificant and wretched ...
  • infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... 22 January 2014 00: 36
    0
    Is this really not enough ...? A vivid picture conveying reality ... Convulsions of insignificant and wretched ...
  • General Frost
    General Frost 22 January 2014 06: 13
    0
    Greetings to all members of the forum !!! An interesting observation is that the guy surrounded by this lad, after sending began to actively begin consultations on a special communication headset. This is about the video with Yatsenyuk.
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  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 21 January 2014 10: 53
    +10
    Quote: makarov
    There is a video on the network where, tonight, Yatsenyuk openly sent the crowd to sherry. He had a very dumbfounded and sad look.

    The militants gathered on the Maidan, ALREADY no one needs.
    They need chaos, disorder, provocations. In order to "justify" their cruelty towards the security forces.
    They were not touched for a long time, naively believing that they themselves would disperse ...
    So they "parted". So far - flowers. Next, there will be berries. That's why all this anti-Ukrainian trash got together, trained, built barricades, seized buildings ...
    All the more so because from across the sea-okiyana "angry" shouts to the Ukrainian leadership such as "Don't you dare touch the lawless people! These are dyarmocrats and fighters for the rights of gays and lesbians!"
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 21 January 2014 14: 21
      +6
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      The militants gathered on the Maidan ALREADY don't need anyone; they need chaos, disorder, provocations. In order to "justify" their cruelty towards the siloviks. They did not touch them for a long time, naively believing that they would disperse themselves ... So they 'parted'. So far - flowers. Next, there will be berries.



      "Berries" will be. This performance (without quotation marks) will be included in books on political technologies. Right now Vyktor Fedorovich is showing the Maydan people of Kiev (not the Maydan homeless people and vuiks, namely the "fiery" Kievites) - lovers of Sunday Veche, how the Maidans all over the world end. I laugh for the third day! I stock up on popcorn and watch a live broadcast of the "epoch-making" battle (although the "epoch-making" can be done without the quotes - it will give birth to berries). He (Vyktor Fedorovich) really scared half of the country. And he did the right thing! To rabbits, fascinators and the beaten off end, along with a bunch of maidan roguly.

      P.S. I only feel sorry for the boys from the BB (they use them in the "dark") - they get it for nothing.
  • Lelek
    Lelek 21 January 2014 11: 00
    +3
    Yes, he doesn't care. He worked out his salary from the civilian State Department, and he was not planned for the presidency by the Americans - they also do not like traitor-whores. wassat
  • Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 21 January 2014 11: 39
    0
    There is a video on the network where, tonight, Yatsenyuk openly sent the crowd to sherry. He had a very dumbfounded and sad look.


    Found, looked ...
    You are a little wrong: he looked like Svanidze, who was publicly convicted of lying ...
  • calocha
    calocha 21 January 2014 09: 08
    +13
    Yanukovych is either stupid or deliberately "reveals" the opposition. For me it was high time to "clean up" this evil spirits. That's when the riot policeman was pulled out and dragged away, that's when it was necessary to START ... And until the moment X it was necessary to figure out who was leading from where and ..neutralize (arrest) them. Well, I don't understand the policy of NON-INTERFERENCE !!!!
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 21 January 2014 10: 08
      +9
      Andrey Quote
      Well, I do not understand the policy of NON-INTERVENTION !!!!
      http://www.odnako.org/userfiles/images/0_9088f_b004127e_XL.jpg
      a fan of Euromaidan, Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevičius, called the clashes between demonstrators and law enforcement agencies "the result of a provocation." He also noted that "there can be no justification for the use of force and violence, and the Ukrainian authorities should be aware of the consequences." That is, violence is considered only the performance by police of their official duty. But this - no?
      And a little more about the role of the West. People’s Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the Party of Regions Vadim Kolesnichenko said that not the Ukrainian opposition is leading the process of protests and military clashes in Kiev, but foreign intelligence services. According to Kolesnichenko, in the three buildings seized by the protesters in Kiev there are over 100 so-called journalists - "these are civil war organization experts and psychologists, in particular from Russia, who worked on the Navalny project."
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 January 2014 10: 12
        +8
        Quote: A.YARY
        That is, violence is considered only the performance by police of their official duty. But this - no?

        According to Western politicians in the photo, peaceful demonstrators are defending themselves from the bloody commandos. Why is he bloody, so you can see right away he is covered in blood. This logic is probably. Or lie this creed.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 21 January 2014 11: 29
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          According to Western politicians in the photo, peaceful demonstrators are being protected from the bloody commandos.

          Yes, certainly the bloodthirsty special forces brutally suppress peaceful demonstrators
          message before the new year:
          Meanwhile, the Ministry of Health of Ukraine reported the victims of the clashes that took place on Independence Square on Wednesday. Doctors contacted 48 people. 22 people are civilians, most have frostbite, hypertension, diabetes mellitus and intoxication. Police officers suffered more. The most common diagnoses here are traumatic brain injuries and concussion.
          Now, out of hundreds of injured, 70 police officers, 50 of them are hospitalized, some are in extremely serious condition, and what is strange there is no reaction from the authorities, they will start to kill ..
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 21 January 2014 10: 51
        +10
        It’s interesting, but if the commandos of the USA, Germany, France or England lay in blood in this photo, what would be the reaction of the heads and media of the European Union? sad
    2. avt
      avt 21 January 2014 10: 12
      +4
      Quote: calocha
      Yanukovych is either stupid or deliberately "reveals" the opposition.

      No, he just shoots up, thinks it will suddenly resolve, his wife was strangled with him, and he stood next to me and said, “be patient, maybe it’s okay.” As for the “failure,” I do not agree with the author. There is no failure, nor is there any opposition. All these are chicks from one nest, it is even possible to accurately determine - cuckoos are sitting in one nest, the cuckoo, just in case, put several in one nest, contrary to nature, but with a clear purpose. And here you are - the goal is slowly but surely achieved, chaos is created.
      Quote: calocha
      .And until the time of X it was necessary to calculate who is leading from where and .. to neutralize (arrest) them.

      laughing Again, as Nonna Mordyukova said in the old film - “You are a good man, but not an eagle.” According to the tsar and the boyars, the last one who could see something could do for this power, while serving as Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, under Kuchma shot himself with two shots in the head ...
      1. demon184
        demon184 21 January 2014 11: 32
        +1
        Yanku simply can’t understand that he will not succeed in catching a fish and
      2. calocha
        calocha 21 January 2014 11: 40
        0
        The team is quick! From this heap there’s only fluff to the sides! It’s too easy if I was cowardly, it’s clear that it will not resolve itself ... It’s more likely to show that Ukraine is more democratic than other countries .. Let the Old Man learn how to work with European integrators ... This on the issue of neutralization ...
    3. DMB87
      DMB87 21 January 2014 10: 32
      +9

      It is too early to shout with regard to Ukraine "Vsepropalo". The opposition is constantly trying to implement the scenario with the response of the siloviki in order to get a media pretext to accuse the authorities of bloodiness and disproportionate use of force. Instead, it is the opposition that constantly appears in the guise of pogromists and extremists. Yanukovych has already achieved that Maidan is associated with homeless people, stench, filth and rampant banditry. Choosing between disgusting power and fearsome pogromists, the layman simply distances himself from events, thereby working for the interests of the authorities and depriving the opposition of mass support. Negotiating with the opposition is the right decision. Now Yanukovych needs to split the oppositionists opposing him into radicals and compromisers. The ultras will not forgive compromise and negotiations, no matter how they end - those of the opposition who go to the negotiations will be declared traitors, and will be forced to agree with the authorities to carry out tough measures against the rioters. Having agreed to this, they will finally dissociate themselves from the ultras. From the very beginning of the Maidan, it became obvious that Yanukovych's entourage - both in the political and in the apparatus - was teeming with traitors and vacillators. Actually, his "indecision" is a consequence of such a fragmented environment than the stupidity or cowardice of the president himself. Yanukovych cannot cleanse the environment quickly and decisively - a massive cleanup is fraught with personnel failure and the arrival of "dark horses" to the vacated places, which cannot be counted on or taken into account at all. In this case, accurate and punctual layoffs are the only logical way out. Actually, this is exactly what Yanukovych is doing, gradually getting rid of the "comrades-in-arms" who have betrayed him. In this case, Yanukovych is acting quite correctly. His problem is different - the applied countertechnology depends on the loyalty of the security forces, which must contain the pogroms with their own bodies. It is unlikely that the internal troops, militia and "Berkut" will be endlessly loyal to the authorities, which formally betray them. Here we need to look for a balance, preventing rebellion among the security forces. This is another problem, and one of the most serious ones.

      One way or another, but the pogroms in Kiev inevitably marginalize the radicals and leave them in the overwhelming minority. They are used - and all parties, after which they will be written off. It’s hard for a brainless youngster to appreciate even a one-way combination, so whoever is not lucky will sit down exponentially, and for a long time. In any case, the Syrian scenario in Kiev is still very far away. (Rodavion, http://takie.org/news/amerikanskij_tender_na_podderzhku_buzy_na_ukraine_v_moldav
      ii_i_belorussii / 2014-01-20-8475)
  • klimpopov
    klimpopov 21 January 2014 09: 10
    +6
    While the goal of chaos has been achieved and maintained, it is premature to call the failure of the latest events a failure in my opinion.
    And the fact that the opposition was divided is not surprising with such leaders. They were initially smeared, but not of the scale of the personality that would raise the "masses" for themselves.
    1. askort154
      askort154 21 January 2014 09: 27
      +3
      klimpopov .... And the fact that the opposition is divided is not surprising with such leaders ...


      But how can she not fall apart if one of the three has a surname that sounds- Tianivbok.
      1. Gato
        Gato 21 January 2014 15: 44
        +1
        Quote: askort154
        But how can she not fall apart if one of the three has a surname that sounds- Tianivbok.

        And all together: TyagnyIytsenyuKochko
  • jjj
    jjj 21 January 2014 09: 13
    +1
    Apparently in the near future we will see new "opposition leaders"
    1. askort154
      askort154 21 January 2014 09: 34
      +1
      jjj .... Apparently in the near future we will see new "opposition leaders"

      And 3 billion. Bucks (of Russian aid for this year) -maydanulis.
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  • zzz
    zzz 21 January 2014 09: 16
    +2
    Quote: klimpopov
    And the fact that the opposition is divided is not surprising with such leaders


    There was someone clever, or someone suggested "DIVIDE AND CONTRACT"
    1. Zeus
      Zeus 21 January 2014 09: 37
      +2
      The one who used to make fun of us before. Megarusophobe Brzezinski.

      http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/articles/2014/01/15/7009577/
      1. Shogun23
        Shogun23 21 January 2014 09: 53
        +1
        But when will this scum die?
  • Docklishin
    Docklishin 21 January 2014 09: 24
    +16
    I can’t understand why the Ukrainian authorities are suffering. More than 50 police officers were sent to the hospital .... They stand and catch bottles of Molotov cocktail. Nonsense. Declare an attempt at a violent coup and allow the Golden Eagle to drag out in full. In 1 day everything will fall into place. + A unique opportunity to fuck the top of the nationalists.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 21 January 2014 09: 27
      +6
      The Ukrainian authorities cannot do this because their hands are short and they are afraid that they will say the USA and Europe, hence the half measures ...
      1. zzz
        zzz 21 January 2014 10: 17
        +6
        Quote: klimpopov
        The Ukrainian authorities cannot do this because their hands are short and they are afraid that they will say the USA and Europe, hence the half measures ...


        This is what pseudo-democracy games are brought to. There Lukashenko does not bend before the West, and they cannot do anything to him and order in the country.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 25
          +12
          Quote: zzz
          There Lukashenko does not bend before the West, and they cannot do anything to him and order in the country.

          Lukashenka has no accounts over the hill. As he said, when they tried to threaten him that the accounts would be frozen: "I have no accounts in the west. If you find it, I will be very grateful to you." And besides that, the will has the courage to fight back. And we have very rich people behind the president who have these very accounts. That doesn't rock the boat too much.
          1. Old Cynic
            Old Cynic 21 January 2014 11: 42
            +2
            Renata is not kosher ...
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 21 January 2014 11: 50
            +5
            Quote: Egoza
            That does not rock the boat especially.

            Elena, he didn’t have much time left ...
            If Yanukovych continues to "keep silent in a rag", then the scenario of November 17th will be repeated in St. Petersburg. I mean the violent seizure of power by the crowd.
            Or does the guarantor have a car ready, with the signs of the Red Cross, and in the closet tights with a skirt and a wig for women in stock?
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 21 January 2014 12: 06
              +2
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Or does the guarantor have a car ready, with the signs of the Red Cross, and in the closet tights with a skirt and a wig for women in stock?

              Well, you said !!! And the helipads near BP and in Mezhigorye were wasted in vain? True, if he decides to fly in Ukrainian helicopters, he may not land. The guys complained - everything is worn out!
              1. Old Cynic
                Old Cynic 21 January 2014 14: 12
                +2
                Vague doubts torment me ...

                And in the Kremlin, helipads were also made ... Probably for Gismeteo employees ...
        2. vanaheym
          vanaheym 21 January 2014 14: 19
          +2
          Lukashenko does not keep his loot in the United States and Europe, unlike Yanukovych and members of the Verkhovna Rada.
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    2. makarov
      makarov 21 January 2014 09: 44
      +14
      there is an impression that there is no Power in Ukraine, there is a group of people who consider themselves to be such, and whose actions are really anti-people. they simply fear for the "honestly acquired" stored over the hill.
    3. revnagan
      revnagan 21 January 2014 12: 31
      +4
      Quote: DocKlishin
      + A unique opportunity to fuck the top of the nationalists.

      The authorities themselves raised the Banderlog, carefully nurtured them, set them on their feet in order to use them as a counterweight to the left forces, which, given the current political and economic situation in Ukraine, began to gain percentages in the elections. But the monster raised by the authorities got out of control. where did the crap crap think that the Nazis would be on a short leash and attack the left only at the command of the authorities? This is a wild beast, without moral principles. Feeling the strength, he will break the "master." In general, the government itself does not know now what to do with Bandera-and it's a pity for the invested funds, and it's already difficult to rein in
    4. Anper
      Anper 21 January 2014 13: 51
      +4
      There is an opinion that someone who is very recognizable, intelligent, who knows how to accurately determine the point of no return of the situation, is playing a multi-step situation of drawing all the Maidanobils into the legal field, which (once published in the government newspaper) is already in effect. Only "Berkut" remains to sympathize - his while this non-working legal field is hitting hard. Here they are "creative" - ​​they let the activists walk naked. And the Professor of Archaeological Sciences, the lover of the poet Chekhov and the poetess A. Akhmetova VF Yanukovych is only a figurant.
    5. Turkestan
      Turkestan 21 January 2014 17: 00
      +1
      I can’t understand why the Ukrainian authorities are suffering.

      Not one of the members of this government wants to lose foreign currency deposits over the hill. These guys are no better than MAIDANA goats.
    6. Alexey K.
      Alexey K. 21 January 2014 20: 32
      +2
      I can’t understand why the Ukrainian authorities are suffering. More than 50 police officers were sent to the hospital.

      Because cowards and traitors to their people.
  • zollstab
    zollstab 21 January 2014 09: 29
    +4
    Charge opposition leaders with article 58 and air the head with a bullet anyway what caliber.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 21 January 2014 09: 30
    +6
    People are embittered by the fact that no one hears them, and that for a long period of time they have been confronting the security forces without any obvious results.

    As the author gently summed up these words under the "legitimization" of the pogroms. There are not people there, there are well-trained fighters who have a clear task and carry it out. Namely, they need the first corpse. Klitschko in the high Maidan tribune called on Yanuca to remove the provocateurs from the streets, implying that the aggressive crowd is the president's people. The person loses control of the situation with the speed of a courier train. Ultimatum on resignation and early elections Yanuca will not accept the trio of Maidan people, it is clear that Maidan will not rasspusit.tupik
  • rassel0889
    rassel0889 21 January 2014 09: 35
    +7
    The worst thing is that through all channels they are already talking about the imminent civil war in Ukraine, according to the scenario of Yugoslavia, and its split into 2 or more parts, the West will not stop at nothing, they wanted to spit on the State and the people who live in it .
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 21 January 2014 11: 53
      +2
      all channels are already talking about the imminent civil war in Ukraine


      I call my mother in Donetsk, saying, "What is going on there, the Internet is full of that massacre on the Maidan began"?
      And she answered me: And here from Kiev they show practically nothing, so I don't know anything "...
      I turn on the PED-e Ukrainian Internet television - deathly silence ...

      And some TV channel is talking about GW in Ukraine, tell me, pliz ... It's interesting all the same! Only, mind you, "BzDozhd" with the Whore Obshchak not to offer !!!
      1. garlik
        garlik 21 January 2014 13: 21
        +3
        How does this not show anything? 24 channel around the clock, 5 channel continuously pumps
      2. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 21 January 2014 13: 29
        +8
        In the Donbass, everything is calm.
        Kiev. In most of the city there is silence.
        Riots only in the center near the Rada. They are local.
        Golden Eagle and BB do not yet work to defeat. Although I can imagine how men itch their hands after Molotov cocktails in their faces.
        1. avt
          avt 21 January 2014 15: 59
          +4
          Quote: zmey_gadukin
          In the Donbass, everything is calm.
          Kiev. In most of the city there is silence.
          Riots only in the center near the Rada. They are local.

          You see what a thing, in February 1917 it was also calm throughout the Empire, despite the fact that the war was going on. They got it and, moreover, completely artificially only in St. Petersburg. Moreover, the queues for bread were inspired by the government officials themselves - a reliable fact, the trains were simply not unloaded. So the attempt by a certain part of the elite to overthrow the tsar, who is also the commander-in-chief, and even a weak-willed figure, not inclined to clear and decisive actions, who is constantly in doubt, was a success. But what about the further course of events? If you remember 1993 in Moscow, the situation was similar in the fermentation of minds as it is now in Kiev. Even the question of support for EBN by security officials and regional officials was much more fragile. But no matter how you treat the most drunken EBN, when the question arose about his office in the Kremlin, he acted quickly, decisively and mercilessly. And then the PMC forced all the regionals to record on video the performances supporting EBoN, and Pasha of All Mercedes paid for tank crews to shell the Supreme Soviet. Toka is not necessary about the fact that EBoN was a protege of the Americans and, therefore, the world community "did not threaten with sanctions, Rutskoy, in addition to showing the guys from the group a machine gun with the words" he is in oil ", agreed to leave only on condition that he was taken to the American embassy. They never threaten the strong, only the weak. By the way, the EBN turned off the electricity, telephones and water supply in the building on the embankment. Well, the question is - what not to do, too, in the buildings captured by the Maydauns ?? So neither the will nor the mind is enough for this, only to substitute servicemen under stones and bottles of gasoline. negative
      3. Oboz
        Oboz 22 January 2014 00: 49
        0
        Here - http://im-investor.ru/evromaydan-online - full kapets !!!
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  • 3935333
    3935333 21 January 2014 09: 54
    +2
    I have a doctor friend who lives in Lviv, his name is Roman. Yesterday I corresponded with him, asked when they would finish "Maidan" (he damn "Lviv Intelligence" ugh, God forbid). So, before the New Year, he was a participant in the "movement" in Kiev, right now it just dawned on him - What and Who is doing there! The current movement is not even the "zapadentsy" have arranged it - the direct program of the Chancellor a la Rzhach Pospolita there, their people (50-60 trained fighters) provoke "instability"
    1. zzz
      zzz 21 January 2014 10: 26
      -1
      Ukraine is a pawn, imagining itself to be a queen, it is intentionally sacrificed in a political gambit. Two are playing - RUSSIA and the USA.
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    3. Anper
      Anper 21 January 2014 14: 31
      +1
      But surely - now this nauseous and vomiting Galician accent is not heard in the reports - they all moved to the media.
  • brainkiller
    brainkiller 21 January 2014 09: 56
    +3
    "it was not us who led them!" ©
    I look at the photo of the article - Klitschko’s attempt to whitewash himself can be called successful =)
  • vlad_m
    vlad_m 21 January 2014 10: 00
    0
    Quote: rassel0889
    The worst thing is that through all channels they are already talking about the imminent civil war in Ukraine, according to the scenario of Yugoslavia,


    A planned revolution with a scenario of taking power by armed means. Toward the close of the Olympics in Russia. With the US Navy ships in the Black Sea in the form of Russian assistance in protecting against terrorist threats.

    Taken FROM HERE - http://putnik1.livejournal.com/2631346.html?style=mine#cutid1

    Machine translation, but everything is clear:

    ====================================================================== ================

    Dear girls (of any age), dear minors, elderly people and people who have health problems! Read this post carefully! No one knows what will happen tonight, or Saturday-Sunday. Personally, I hope that certain events will occur that will change the future of our state, saving us all from dictatorship. And if these events begin - the request (I repeat - the request is addressed to those whom I noted in the first sentence) follow the following rules:

    1 . In the event of any military action, you calmly, without panic, leave the dangerous areas. Go to calm places. In no case do not stay in the zone of various kinds of collisions, because:

    - You still can’t cause significant damage to the enemy,

    - You will "get under the feet" of the rebels, causing disorganization in their actions, which must be decisive and precise. This is not an insult, it is a fact.

    - In case you get serious injuries, you will have to provide medical care, it will take time and attract people who at this time could do something more effective and useful. At the same time, your victims will be in vain,

    - Some of you, starting to panic, will be able to demoralize the rebel forces. Screams, crying, panic movements are very disorganized, even the ranks of the rebel troops are organized.

    - If I beat you, various "Lyzhychko" and other traitors will hear screaming that peaceful people have been beaten again through provocateurs.
  • vlad_m
    vlad_m 21 January 2014 10: 01
    0
    Continued:

    ================================================== ==================

    2. In any case, you can do what you think is necessary, but:

    - if during an emergency you decide to remain at the epicenter, then you take responsibility for the possible consequences for your health and life,

    - Your voluntary presence at the epicenter of the emergency confirms that you do not make claims regarding the consequences of aggressive actions by insurgents, including those related to police attacks or accidental injuries accidentally caused to you in connection with your presence,

    - The same thing in simple words - if you are standing in the first row, close to the ranks of the militia and a rebel, throwing stones at the militia, accidentally touches and injures you, if the militia is aggressive, attacking the rebels will hit you, or something else like that - neither you, or other people, will not have the moral right to accuse "aggressive young" or "masked provocateurs" of this, since you yourself have deliberately put yourself in a dangerous position,

    - If you decide to render all possible assistance to the rebels (medical assistance, evacuation of the wounded, reconnaissance, etc.) - your actions should not impede the actions of the rebels and put them at risk.

    - It is strictly forbidden to take actions aimed at protecting the existing regime and against the rebels. In particular, it is forbidden to call people to calm, call the rebels "provocateurs", appeal to the regime's dogs with a request to detain the rebels, try to remove masks, helmets, and vidibrats from the rebels and self-defense items from the rebels;

    - It is also forbidden to delay the rebels, hinder their movement, become a "human shield" in front of the columns of the regime's dogs, tell the regime's dogs the location and intentions of the rebels, testify against the rebels to journalists, an investigator, spread false information among people in order to prevent the rebels (for example, rumors about the fact that they are "Russian nationalists", "disguised policemen", "mercenaries of Klyuev, etc."

    Any such actions are a betrayal of national interests.

    Any such actions are an active collaboration with the Yanukovych regime, and give a moral right to conscious citizens to apply to you regardless of your age, gender, etc. the same measures as for dogs of the regime and other enemies.

    Better, having reached a calm and safe place, pray for the rebels. Because they are at this time risking freedom, health and life for the sake of Ukraine!
  • Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 21 January 2014 10: 12
    +1
    With your permission, citizens and I will say my weighty word on this issue smile The Ukrainian government and directly Yanukovych are weak, therefore, under certain pressure, they can make certain concessions. And the lawless people on the Maidan, or rather, their owners understand this very well! Plus the open support of the protesters by the EU countries and the USA, which, in principle, do not care about the legality of what is happening. they live by the principle that the end justifies the means. In my opinion, events have already passed into the plane of SOMEONE! Or Yanukovych will hold out and there will be at least a semblance of unity and order in the country. Otherwise, what is happening in Ukraine now will seem like flowers compared to what may begin.
  • Kubatai
    Kubatai 21 January 2014 10: 15
    +3
    The same flywheel is unwound (only under other sauce) that is still spinning in Syria. If the authorities continue to play with these comrades, then a fire will flare under our side, and since Ukraine is a large state, then the fire will not be frail ... In general, certain states will achieve this campaign ..
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 21 January 2014 14: 56
      +2
      Quote: Kubatai
      The same flywheel is unwound (only under other sauce) that is still spinning in Syria.

      Only in Syria the majority supports the president, and in Ukraine, probably no one supports Janek. He managed to betray his Russian-speaking electorate.
  • brainkiller
    brainkiller 21 January 2014 10: 24
    +2
    We need to be more careful with assessments of what is happening, but let me say that the aggravation of the situation may be beneficial for those who have not yet exterminated the virus of independence in their heads. The main thing is not to slip through the so-called. "point of no return".
    But these oppositionists must not be merged, otherwise others may appear strong, these impotents need to be kept as a menagerie to create an appearance as well as in the Russian Federation.
  • psyholirik
    psyholirik 21 January 2014 10: 26
    +1
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/227429-skandal-klichko-rezident-ssha
    -dokument.html] Klitschko is a US resident. Document
  • vikov
    vikov 21 January 2014 10: 26
    +3
    If the government imagines itself to be a country, according to Yanuk, does not want to talk with those with whom it is possible and necessary to speak, there will always be those who do not want to talk with the government itself, but then there will be no winners, nothing changes in the laws of history.
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 21 January 2014 10: 28
    +5
    Trying to plunge Ukraine into chaos, the Americans, with their own hands, increase the influence of the one whom they fear and hate, Putin. The people, realizing what can expect them in the near future, rally and believe in such strong leaders. Even if everything is not so good in the country so far. , it happened even worse, but still calmly, although the provocations continue. Strongly, of course, the upcoming Olympics are holding back from some decisive actions, but what to do, as they say, "Tackle the tide, do not say you don’t need to," you will have to suffer a little.
    Comments on ordinary citizens, opponents of Yanukovych are already appearing on the Internet. If he stops this bacchanalia, they are ready to vote for him in 2015 and this is again another failure of the Americans.
    The three "leaders" - swan, cancer and pike are thrown by their western masters as meat to hungry dogs to intensify their thirst for blood. This is the last benefit they (the Trio) can bring in this situation, since they have lost control over the crowd.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 21 January 2014 10: 30
      0
      Quote: mhpv
      "I took up the tug, do not say that it is not tedious"
      not a dozen =)))
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 21 January 2014 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: mhpv
      Three "leaders" - swan, cancer and pike

      "Once a swan, a pike with cancer ..." laughing
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  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 21 January 2014 10: 31
    +2
    Maybe it's time to disperse all this camarilla, I certainly understand Yanukovych wants to be branded as a liberal president of the European type, but only because of his throwing, he lost the trust of the Hosts, since, well, secondly, on the borders with Russia, the Hosts do not need a quiet, calm Switzerland , and some semblance of Somalia, I see Kiev is slowly turning into Mogadishu with which and I congratulate the inhabitants of Ukraine, I understand to see the reluctance to work, it is better to stand in the square, jump, shout or do something else in the squares. It is clear, because all the "democracy "it slipped from these demonstrations back in December last year, now it is just a stronghold of lumpen proletarians, anarchists, bandits, radicals and other evil spirits. How many empires and countries have been destroyed due to the indecision of the authorities and their attempts to flirt with the opposition, from France at the end of 18 -the beginning of the 19th century when Louis XVI literally "lost his head" from this, and after all it all began with "peaceful demonstrations", going out to the people with red bows, and ended with the Jacobin terror and 24/7 by the work of the guillotine, and Napoleon discharged it into a revolutionary b.y.dl.o. buckshot from cannons immediately stopped all revolutionary impulses and put things in order. Of course, I understand, in Ukraine they think, "What kind of France, what dictatorship of the Jacobins, everything will be wrong with us, we will hold a meeting right now and build a" bright future "without maskals and oligarchs, right now, just a couple of militiamen will beat their faces, they are to blame for everything. " tanks, or at worst from large-caliber machine guns, but you will kill a hundred, but you will save millions, and well, you will also get the stigma of an executioner-dictator, but almost every ruler who cares about the welfare of his country receives such a stigma, so there is no need to lose heart. that Yanukovych will not do anything and will provide me with a bunch of "cool" reports of the first channel from Kiev about another crowd beating a policeman, setting a car on fire or destroying a monument to Lenin.
    1. vikov
      vikov 21 January 2014 10: 35
      0
      You obviously have no idea what the civil war in Ukraine is, read it.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 21 January 2014 11: 13
        +3
        And are Civil Wars somehow different from each other? Is it so for me that in Russia, in the USA, in England, in France it was one and the same. Does Ukraine fundamentally differ in anything? The tablet is still the same and is the same.
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      3. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 21 January 2014 11: 48
        +3
        You obviously have no idea what the civil war in Ukraine is, read it.

        Can you imagine? Have you been a member? And in what kind of civil war in Ukraine did you personally participate? What historical period?
  • Grbear
    Grbear 21 January 2014 10: 32
    +2
    The situation has reached its climax. There is no opposition as such. There is no one to negotiate with. But there is an angry crowd that has already become entangled in their "demands". And there are trained fighters who have a clear command - "Patrons do not spare". Janek, the same for now -"The worse the better".

    In short. Both sides are waiting for a "sacred sacrifice".
    1. vikov
      vikov 21 January 2014 10: 38
      -8
      There is only one requirement - early elections of all branches of power, it’s just that Yanuk cannot sacrifice anyone, it’s too painful for everyone to steal.
      1. Kubatai
        Kubatai 21 January 2014 10: 43
        +5
        I see, are you interested in continuing the banquet?
        A change of power has already been in Ukraine in a similar way .. Didn’t the time for the poisoned to do everything? or not enough for you?
    2. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 21 January 2014 11: 46
      +2
      In short. Both sides are waiting for a "sacred sacrifice".

      Exactly!!! Everyone is waiting for the first blood, sadly ... I mean - they are waiting for the corpses.
      And there already the dancing will go much more seriously, depending on which side this blood will be on.
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  • Lelek
    Lelek 21 January 2014 10: 40
    +2
    And what a wonderful copy to the collection: Kuchma, Saakashvili, Yushchenko, Gorbachev, Shevardnadze and our CAVALERS with Bolotnaya. fool
  • gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 21 January 2014 10: 55
    +6
    It's time to put Klitschko next to Tymoshenko. Let them sit democratically. Moreover, he should sit on general terms. In China, they would cheat, and in the Union too .... But, we have democracy.
    I also liked: The Ukrainian authorities violate the principles of democracy ... blah blah blah .... That is, democratically expose Yugoslavia, Libya, Agan, Iraq? Oooo, creatures ... They say black and white and vice versa ...
    And without changing the rules of the world game this will continue. The question is different: Is it possible to change these very rules without another world war? For example, hold Nuremberg 2 right in Brussels, at NATO headquarters? Or at the UN office?
    1. 222222
      222222 21 January 2014 17: 45
      +2
      Who will put him .. will run away like Kasparov to America
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 January 2014 10: 58
    +2
    Quote: vikov
    There is only one requirement - early elections of all branches of power, it’s just that Yanuk cannot sacrifice anyone, it’s too painful for everyone to steal.

    And again, all over again .. until the next Independence Square? They simply destroy Ukraine, do not you think .. (there are no leaders ..) Yanukovych with .... n son of course, but he is ours .... (you can keep him in check now) .. for a while! I read different sites there scumbags gathered from all over Ukraine and eastern Europe .. It is useless to negotiate with them, they want blood and ruin.!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 31
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      there thugs gathered from all over Ukraine and eastern Europe.

      Now all the deputies of city, district, village councils are coming from Lviv and the region to help the Maidan!
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 21 January 2014 13: 38
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: MIKHAN
        there thugs gathered from all over Ukraine and eastern Europe.

        Now all the deputies of city, district, village councils are coming from Lviv and the region to help the Maidan!

        Lena, and the east is silent what ???? Will there be any movements ??? Crimea as configured ??
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 21 January 2014 11: 32
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It is useless to negotiate with them; they want blood and devastation.!

      Dear MIKHAN!
      How many times have I read here, on the site, the exclamations of Ukrainian members of the forum like "Let only Yanyk touch the Maidan, he will not find it enough!"
      None of the sane Ukrainians want blood - this is clear.
      But it is also clear that blood is already pouring, blood of people sworn to defend the country.
      There was only one option for solving the problem of the Maidan - "to put them in jail". If you don't, it will only get worse. For everyone, including those in Maydan, and residents of Kiev streets adjacent to the Maidan. Because situation ALREADY GOT out of control.
  • Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 21 January 2014 11: 17
    +1
    I looked at the notes on the Air Force on the subject of opposition.
    ____________________________________
    Berkut made a sortie to the positions of Euromaidan fighters
    Street fights last in Kiev
    The opposition calls people to the "Maidan" in Kiev and prepares mobilization points for self-defense units.
    authorities declared war on the people of Ukraine.
    The Svoboda Party has issued a statement that it is creating mobilization points and self-defense units in all regions of Ukraine.
    The United States, the European Union and human rights organizations have expressed concern about the laws passed, and the European Union has called on Yanukovych to review them.
    _____________________________________

    Something all this rhetoric began to resemble the Syrian version.
    A little more and these Euro-Ukrainians will carry not only the Maidan, but also Kiev.
    A crazy thought was born: Maybe it’s worth supporting all this and introducing troops and the state of emergency in Ukraine, and adding it to Russia. Although there will be a howl and a stink! ))) Yes, and are these balamutes needed here? )
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 21 January 2014 15: 21
      0
      Quote: Dan Slav
      I looked at the notes on the Air Force on the subject of opposition.
      ____________________________________
      Berkut made a sortie to the positions of Euromaidan fighters
      Street fights last in Kiev
      The opposition calls people to the "Maidan" in Kiev and prepares mobilization points for self-defense units.
      authorities declared war on the people of Ukraine.
      The Svoboda Party has issued a statement that it is creating mobilization points and self-defense units in all regions of Ukraine.
      The United States, the European Union and human rights organizations have expressed concern about the laws passed, and the European Union has called on Yanukovych to review them.
      _____________________________________

      Something all this rhetoric began to resemble the Syrian version.
      A little more and these Euro-Ukrainians will carry not only the Maidan, but also Kiev.
      A crazy thought was born: Maybe it’s worth supporting all this and introducing troops and the state of emergency in Ukraine, and adding it to Russia. Although there will be a howl and a stink! ))) Yes, and are these balamutes needed here? )

      Only if Yanuc calls and legalizes this through parliament.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 21 January 2014 11: 27
    +4
    Zhirinovsky: Give the expressway between Kiev and Moscow!

  • Egoza
    Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 33
    +4
    People's Deputy of Ukraine from the PR faction Vadim Kolesnichenko on the air of the Freedom of Speech program said that now in the capital, under the guise of journalists, there are about 100 experts who are agents of foreign special services, reports UNN.
    He noted that, by and large, the events that have been taking place in Ukraine over the past month and a half are "a false start of civil resistance, revolution, in fact, a coup d'etat, which was being prepared for 2015 with the participation of foreign special services."
    “In December alone, the SBU expelled from our state more than 200 experts who trained militants for organizing a civil war in Ukraine. Today, there are about 100 such experts disguised as journalists on the territory of the capital ... The country has become a training ground for foreign intelligence services. experts from the Russian Federation, some from Belarus, and the rest from Europe. The experts who arrived from the Russian Federation are the experts who worked for Navalny's project, at Bolotnaya Square. They work through various funds, "V. Kolesnichenko said.
    He also noted that all these people, within the framework of the legislation, will be officially registered as foreign agents receiving foreign funds for the provision of political services in Ukraine.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/227427-v-kieve-nahoditsya-100-ekspertov-kot
    orye-yavlyayutsya-agentami-inostrannyh-specsluzhb-vkolesnichenko.html
  • Egoza
    Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 35
    +11
    All three "leaders" can be addressed a letter from one Odessa citizen, intended for Lutsenko! Who has already oklemalsya and even takes part in negotiations with the authorities, as a representative of the Maidan.
    Odessa EpsilonDelta.
    Listen here, Monsieur Lutsik, as a sincere well-wisher I have a few words to tell you. The whole Moldavian woman says that you are crazy, and if you know Moldavian, then your spouse also knows, and if your spouse knows, she repeatedly told you this newness loudly. So, in spite of your brain failure, you have well mastered this unfortunate fact. And so, having such happiness, you persistently joke adventures on your native seat. Yes, any medical luminary, and not even very, will say that such searches are categorically contraindicated for people with your diagnosis, since they invariably end in disastrous success. We will not speak for your past Quichmans, let’s say for Shichas. Well, what cholera kicked you into this, God forgive me, Maidan? Shaw, I really wanted to serve as a schwyzer with these rude bulls from w ..., sorry, oppa? What good, besides Mishigas, will they teach you? Here is my free advice for you: shvidsha, shvidsha do legs from ottudova, and shmig-shmig to a cozy hole. You have accumulated a lot of pennies, have a drink, have a bite, so sit there quietly like a gray bear, enjoy life and do not rock the boat. And you want to play politics, so buy yourself cubes, tin soldiers, and build at least a tenth republic for your pleasure. http://2000.net.ua/2000/forum/bez-butylki-ne-razbereshsja/96934
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 21 January 2014 13: 43
      0
      Elena read the movie remembered. Respect. Odessa mom, dad Rostov. Pronons is wonderful. hi
  • Marconi41
    Marconi41 21 January 2014 11: 42
    -7
    Or maybe this mess can be stopped by the forces of Russia and NATO. Under the guise of introducing troops from two sides and dividing them honestly. NATO Western regions, Russia everything else. To restore order there and to appoint "fair" elections of governors and mayors of regions and cities of the Ukrainian Autonomous Republic within the Russian Federation. Well, what NATO will do with the Westerners (give them to Poland or something else) is their own business.
    In this scenario, I think everyone will be happy: Zapadentsev will live in the EU (which they did), but the inhabitants of the eastern regions and Crimea as part of the Russian Federation (that is, they will no longer have to bother with the CU). Everyone is happy, everyone is laughing, CURTAIN ...
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 21 January 2014 11: 50
      +4
      can this mess stop the forces of Russia and NATO. Silently introduce troops from two sides and divide honestly. NATO Western regions, Russia everything else.

      I agree only in this version: Russia - "donut", NATO - "donut hole". This will be the Democratic Republic
      laughing
    2. brainkiller
      brainkiller 21 January 2014 11: 57
      +4
      Quote: Marconi41
      Or maybe this mess to stop the forces of Russia and NATO.

      there are ideas from which cockroaches in my head applaud while standing © =)
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 21 January 2014 14: 02
        +3
        Quote: brainkiller
        there are such ideas

        Big Plus for an avatar! ++
    3. atos_kin
      atos_kin 21 January 2014 13: 24
      +1
      No need to joke like that. War is very difficult.
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 21 January 2014 14: 38
        0
        Yes, what a war. Only today, Comrade Lavrov said that we would provide any assistance to Ukraine if they themselves asked for it (TV Russia-24). So there is an option that the Ukrainian military will go in our orderly ranks, and the Golden Eagle will interact with the Moscow riot police. (Yes, if they have the will, they can do it themselves).
    4. ed65b
      ed65b 21 January 2014 13: 45
      +2
      Quote: Marconi41
      Or maybe this mess can be stopped by the forces of Russia and NATO. Under the guise of introducing troops from two sides and dividing them honestly. NATO Western regions, Russia everything else. To restore order there and to appoint "fair" elections of governors and mayors of regions and cities of the Ukrainian Autonomous Republic within the Russian Federation. Well, what NATO will do with the Westerners (give them to Poland or something else) is their own business.
      In this scenario, I think everyone will be happy: Zapadentsev will live in the EU (which they did), but the inhabitants of the eastern regions and Crimea as part of the Russian Federation (that is, they will no longer have to bother with the CU). Everyone is happy, everyone is laughing, CURTAIN ...

      And why should we actually share with p.i.d.o.s. that they don’t belong ???? or all or nothing, Ukraine is and should be within its borders. either with us or without us but within the borders.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 21 January 2014 13: 57
        +3
        And why should we actually share with p.i.d.o.s. that they don’t belong ???? or all or nothing, Ukraine is and should be within its borders. either with or without us but within.
        Within the borders of our united country drinks
      2. Marconi41
        Marconi41 21 January 2014 14: 26
        +1
        What I wrote of course is utopia. But I can offer another scinaria at all not utopian: the police on the Maidan, thanks to the president, are practically inactive, which means that there is a chance that the crowd will demolish and seize the ranks of the explosives and seize the Ukrainian president’s offices. After that, the power can go to ... anyone, and then the interim government can ask NATO for help. Hard workers live in the east, moreover, they do not have a leader - that means there will be no confrontation. Everything will be yours - the whole country. BUT is it better or what ???
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 21 January 2014 15: 19
          0
          Answer Marconi. even taking the presidential palace with the last living counter-revolution has every chance of failure, provided that the living president has the courage to take advantage of the direct duties of the supreme commander and naturally if he is not betrayed by associates in the power block (which, according to the old Mazepa habit, is very likely to betray)
    5. Marconi41
      Marconi41 21 January 2014 14: 31
      0
      Eco minus! wink However, all this can be done without us (without the Russian Federation), and can be done at the cost of considerable blood (there are enough scriptwriters in the world). And at the expense of separating the western regions, one must remember that they belong to Ukraine not so long ago, but they bring hemorrhoids - above the roof.
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 21 January 2014 11: 46
    +1
    Sometimes there are thoughts that everything that maidanutye do is against them. Those. the government has more and more reasons to introduce more stringent countermeasures, up to extremism and brutal repressions, against opposition activists.
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 January 2014 11: 49
    +1
    After a shower from a fire extinguisher - a typical zombie!
  • moremansf
    moremansf 21 January 2014 11: 52
    +5
    A gift to the leader from grateful associates !!! A well-deserved reward for ambition !!! The situation is clearly out of control of the opposition leaders !!! Conductors of the West, realizing the inconsistency of these "leaders", clearly began searching among ardent nationalists ...
  • Egoza
    Egoza 21 January 2014 11: 58
    +3
    About the Laws ....
    "For example, in Germany, if a protester went to a rally, covering his face, he will not receive 15 days of administrative arrest, as it is assumed by the" anti-Maidan "changes in the legislation, but a year in prison. This norm has been in force there for 25 years, but Germany is a" totalitarian country " for some reason no one names. In France, for hiding your face at a rally, you can get three years in prison and a fine of 45 thousand euros (!). In Great Britain, if the organizers, when notifying the police about the protest action (and the police notification of the action is mandatory in almost all European countries) indicated the wrong route of the march or made a mistake with the time of the rally, then they are sent to prison for up to 3 months, paying up to a thousand euros in fines. Participation in mass riots in Great Britain is punishable by a prison term of up to 10 years. "
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-136202.html

    Ivano-Frankivsk City Council requires President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych and opposition leaders to immediately begin negotiations. "Since the President of Ukraine and the current government do not hear and do not want to hear the Ukrainian people," the deputies offer the opposition to negotiate on the following conditions: early presidential and parliamentary elections; the resignation of the government of Mykola Azarov and the formation of a transitional technical government, the abolition of all laws adopted by the Verkhovna Rada on January 16; prosecuting those guilty of beating up peaceful demonstrators and journalists; exemption from prosecution of all participants in peaceful actions; the signing of the Association Agreement with the EU during 2014. If these requirements are not met, the deputies reserve the right to civil disobedience.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136191.html
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 21 January 2014 12: 01
      +1
      Very strong requirements =)
      Quote: Egoza
      early presidential and parliamentary elections; resignation of the government of Mykola Azarov and the formation of a transitional technical government

      и
      Quote: Egoza
      the signing of the Association Agreement with the EU during the 2014 year.
      How can one promise the fulfillment of the second condition while fulfilling the first? The meaning of the condition in general, when the demand is made for the removal of authority?
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 21 January 2014 12: 07
        0
        Do not look for logic where it does not exist. Logic is only in strict observance of the legislation of the country. In this case, that part of it with regard to the duties of law enforcement agencies to restore order and protect the constitutional order. Even if at the same time someone will be hurt in the face.
    2. yehat
      yehat 21 January 2014 12: 27
      0
      in Britain have not forgotten the Irish resistance
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    4. cooper
      cooper 21 January 2014 23: 56
      -4
      Your permanent links to the site are controversial, very much reminiscent of the "unobtrusive" promotion of a poor service. Can you get money there ?????????????? Good luck in such a corrupt business :)))))))
  • Egoza
    Egoza 21 January 2014 12: 02
    +9
    "Berkut" was able to push the rioters away from the barricade and broke the catapult erected by the rioters. The most active clashes took place from 3 to 4 am. By dawn, the intensity of the struggle began to subside. Opposite the Dynamo stadium, buses were burning, which were used to transport law enforcement officers. The area was covered with thick smoke. The protesters, many of whom were wearing gas masks and helmets, periodically threw lighted fireworks towards the police cordon. At the moment, the active phase of the confrontation between protesters and law enforcement officers on Hrushevsky Street has ended. However, in the center of the capital, shots and explosions of stun grenades can still be heard. Now at the site of the night confrontation there are several hundred people, but only a few of them show any activity.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136204.html

    Threat. By the way, the catapult turned out to be very ineffective, throwing stones very close, and even past, and even on the activists themselves. belay Either the cobblestones are not conscious, or the tiles from the sidewalk from PR were delivered ... Or maybe the architects-builders themselves didn’t finish something.
    Here it is a modern education !!! In ancient Greece, how well the catapults worked, and in modern Ukraine - zilch! laughing
    1. Sour
      Sour 21 January 2014 16: 52
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      In ancient Greece, how well the catapults worked,

      What was shown on TV is not called a catapult, but "trebuchet" or "trebuchet" (the French word, more correctly still "trebuchet"). This is a medieval invention and it is based on the action of a falling counterweight. The catapult is based on the action of an unwinding elastic rope; it was used in ancient times. "Trebuchet" was not used by the ancient Romans and Greeks, and the catapult was not used in the Middle Ages (except Byzantium until the 11th century)
      This is so, in order of clarification.
    2. Gato
      Gato 21 January 2014 17: 02
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      By the way, the catapult turned out to be very ineffective, throwing stones very close, and even past, and even on the activists themselves

      Here you can see an epic shot from this device (by the way, I agree with Sour, it really looks like a treble), somewhere from 01:40
      http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1076770
      1. garlik
        garlik 21 January 2014 18: 04
        +1
        no wonder some philosophers talk about the new Middle Ages. Feudal oligarchs, the masses are barely making ends meet. Castles enclosed by fences. Military buildings - "wall of shields". The truth is more like a Roman turtle.
  • vasek-3180
    vasek-3180 21 January 2014 12: 03
    +2
    Quote: askort154
    In the photo. Beauty! So it would be like with every modern politician, you would look less eager for power.

    sprinkle this nonsense laughing
  • zzz
    zzz 21 January 2014 12: 09
    0
    Probably, the Ukrainian elite now has two options - either to be the six in Brussels, or to go to the Kremlin with a petition to Prince Vladimir.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 January 2014 12: 11
    +2
    Quote: ele1285
    Quote: domokl
    But it seemed to me that the photo shows a political corpse ... write memoirs about the bastard Ukrainian people who did not want to live in geyrops

    If I’m smart, then Klitschko will flail against the banderlogs in a flurry, many who are not satisfied with Yanyk, but also against ragul, will support him. From the craving ... he is not on the way. the brain is absent, it will continue to be watered from the fire extinguisher, and may be dipped.

    Impossible. In the sense of impudently shove. What can he do? Strike in response? Article. Modern civilization is arranged in such a way that a person has no right to defend his own honor and dignity. So they got around Kolya, so what? We need to sue him. And to prove there that his dignity is infringed. Class! Especially when the "opponents" do not recognize the law at all!
    You will notice an unmistakable indicator - art. Try to remember who and how in books and films can defend honor and dignity? Well how? Great, right? Only ... bandits are capable of this completely! Everything! They are also law enforcement officers, and this is solely because they become left-handed people for a while, taking advantage of the fact that they have the drawbar of law in their hands. They are still rich, but under all circumstances they go against the law, using money as a battering ram.
    Do you think the scriptwriters and writers do not want to show the honor of a good person in a situation? Even as they want, but ... they can’t! There is no such scenario! Spit in the face - wipe off! You can still cry. For any other behavior, the state will fall on you like a ton of bricks. There is a rapid selection towards scoundrels, they are happy with the state, but people of honor are not.
    So Klitschko is a political corpse. So, as he should, he cannot answer. Dead end.
  • mark7
    mark7 21 January 2014 12: 15
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    foreign citizens hold the office of president

    So, I thought that Klitschko is a German citizen or is dual citizenship allowed in Ukraine?
    1. zzz
      zzz 21 January 2014 12: 40
      +1
      Quote: mark7
      from, and I thought that Klitschko is a German citizen or is dual citizenship allowed in Ukraine?


      It seems like they have everything resolved now.
    2. Gecko
      Gecko 21 January 2014 13: 01
      +1
      He is also a US resident. He filed a tax return containing a US Social Security number.
  • ing
    ing 21 January 2014 12: 20
    +5
    recent events in Kiev show that events are developing according to the US-Euro scenario. Before the Olympics, they are not afraid of a harsh reaction from Russia, and therefore they calmly arrange a "hot spot" at our side, and even such that Russia has only one way of resolving the conflict - help Yanukovych in dispersal by force, which is what the Jews need, then "satanization" Russia and Putin, that is, to do what they did not quite succeed after the war on 08/08/08. At the same time pay off with Putin for Syria, Vilnius, etc.
    1. vikov
      vikov 21 January 2014 12: 38
      +1
      Media: US is preparing Navy ships in case of evacuation from Sochi

      In the event of terrorist attacks at the Olympics in Sochi, the United States intends to use warships and aircraft to evacuate the Americans. Ships will enter the Black Sea in the coming days.
      http://www.dw.de/сми-сша-готовят-корабли-вмф-на-случай-эвакуации-из-сочи/a-17375
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  • 70hovomu
    70hovomu 21 January 2014 12: 30
    +1
    News from Ukraine is already reminiscent of reports from the scene of hostilities, I am very worried about my relatives in Kiev.
  • vikov
    vikov 21 January 2014 12: 36
    -1
    I hope the majority do not need to translate the text from the Constitution of Ukraine:
    Article 5. Ukraine є republic.

    To the sovereignty and the only dzherel of power in Ukraine є people. The people are living in power without interruption and through the organization of sovereign power and the organization of self-determination.

    those. if the authorities do not fulfill these promises and demands of the people, they should resign and this is the only civilized way out of this situation.
  • not good
    not good 21 January 2014 12: 37
    +1
    In Ukraine, it seems that they are trying to play a scenario that had already been tested in the Baltics. When the opposition, shouting for freedom, shoots in the back and then blame the authorities for it. The authorities should play by the rules of the opposition, quietly strangle the organizers and intermediaries, financiers, and the demonstrators without payment and organization they creep home.
    1. vikov
      vikov 21 January 2014 12: 53
      -2
      Why are they embarrassed, as in Novocherkassk - a couple of machine guns, a dozen snipers and will eat liver cakes until the end of the century.
  • Black
    Black 21 January 2014 12: 53
    +1
    Quote: Egoza
    And we have very rich people behind the president who have these very accounts. That does not rock the boat especially.


    This is the most important thing. Yanka-like that consistency in the hole. He and his behavior as a Guarantor are the main culprit of all this disgrace.
  • rassel0889
    rassel0889 21 January 2014 13: 03
    +1
    Quote: Old Cynic
    all channels are already talking about the imminent civil war in Ukraine


    I call my mother in Donetsk, saying, "What is going on there, the Internet is full of that massacre on the Maidan began"?
    And she answered me: And here from Kiev they show practically nothing, so I don't know anything "...
    I turn on the PED-e Ukrainian Internet television - deathly silence ...

    And some TV channel is talking about GW in Ukraine, tell me, pliz ... It's interesting all the same! Only, mind you, "BzDozhd" with the Whore Obshchak not to offer !!!


    Yesterday night, a live broadcast from Kiev on the Vesti24 channel, different people spoke there with their opinions, and almost everyone said that the civil war was not far off, and one nationalist was shown, he directly said that it was just flowers, in 2015 it will be "fun" and they say they are preparing for this particular period ... and in Ukraine it is not surprising that they do not talk about this, the authorities are not suicides to allow broadcasting such stories throughout the country.
  • Cormorants
    Cormorants 21 January 2014 13: 04
    0
    And what kind of dude is standing next to Klitschko on the left, Great Britain's flag on caps !!!