Israel plans to reduce Namer production by 60%

The Israeli Ministry of Defense plans to cut the purchase of the Namer infantry fighting vehicle by more than half.

In accordance with the next multi-year plan currently formulated in Tel Aviv, it is planned to revise the Namer procurement schedule so that no more than 2017 machines will be released before the 170 year. The first batch of Namer cases manufactured in the USA was shipped to Israel at the end of 2013. Seven buildings are currently equipped with Israeli-made systems, before they are delivered to operational units. The Namer infantry fighting vehicle is currently deployed from the Golani Brigade infantry battalions.

According to Israeli and US sources, the American contractor of the program, General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS), is renegotiating the contract with Israel concluded in the 2011 year. The changes are likely to include fines due to cuts in the overall budget due to a decrease in the number of vehicle sets of heavy armored personnel carriers that Israel agreed to buy from the company. Sources in the Israeli military-industrial complex say they expect the Israeli Ministry of Defense to release a new revised request for proposals (RFP) in early February 2014.

In accordance with the eight-year contract, GDLS plans to supply vehicle kits for assembling 386 machines before 2019, at a cost per $ 730 000, and based on this, mass production was planned at a rate of 60 machines per year. The initial contract extended to the release of 110 machines. To fulfill this contract, GDLS had to invest in equipping the production line, which is state-owned by the United States and operated by the Joint Dynamics-owned Joint Production System (JSMC) center in Lima, Ohio. According to the contract, the Israeli Ministry of Defense was considering an option to buy the Namer additional BMP 276 at a fixed fixed price. Restructuring of the existing agreement will result in fines of about $ 17 million, which will increase the cost of one vehicle kit to almost $ 900 000 due to the loss of scale effect.

While the production of Namer infantry fighting vehicles will be limited to about 170 units, Israel continues to produce the main combat Tanks Merkava, albeit at a much slower pace than before.

A spokesman for the Israeli Defense Ministry said the final approval of the IDF’s five-year plan has not yet been adopted, and therefore the Defense Ministry cannot comment on the proposed future of the Namer program or its contract with GDLS.

While in the best of times, military production at the joint plant between GD and the US government in Lima employed about 1200 workers producing Abrams tanks for the United States and for export, the budget cut has now resulted in JSMC time about xnumx man works.

The reduction of the order for Namer will have a negative effect on JSMC, where the number of personnel has recently decreased by one third. The US Army said it wants to stop the production of Abrams in 2016, and resume work in 2019, when it is ready to start producing the next generation Abrams tank, which it is developing together with General Dynamics. Production Namer, as well as retrofit kits for M-1 Abrams tanks are important in the plans of the US Army to save labor to 2019 year. Although GDLS is one of the finalists selected by the US Army for the new generation of tracked armored vehicles under the Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) program, even if the program survives the budget in the coming years, and GDLS will win this contract, GCV needs not enough to fill the gap in time.

Comments

[2014Bog2014]

That's good!!!

[Romn]

When they have all the military production will rise, then it will be good!

[Alex_Popovson]

When they have all the military production will rise, then it will be good!

And what good? How many civilians in Israel are directly dependent on the protection of troops? The whole country, and this is 13 million people. And if there is no weapon, how many civilians will suffer from all sorts of Hamas?

[Basarev]

Personally, this is at hand for us. We are not interested in preserving even a small part of the Israeli population. I will only be for when the Arabs destroy the nest of aggression and robbery by the name of Israel

[St Petrov]

Israel needs to reduce its nuclear weapons, which according to all treaties it should not have. In general, I would send Hamas $ 1 billion to Hamas to promote democracy in neighboring Israel. According to the best traditions of our geopolitical enemies

It's time rebels already take examples from orthodox kids and draw messages of happiness on the warhead of sms`ok

[Alex_Popovson]

Israel needs to reduce its nuclear weapons, which according to all treaties it should not have

But here we can not disagree. True, no one will do it. No, really, does that mean India, Pakistan, North Korea, Canada and Germany should be banned from having vigorous bonbon?
Although, to be honest, I perfectly understand the leadership of Israel. Living, surrounded by crowds of bearded men who can only fight and pray, and really want to kill everyone who has more than one religion with them, I really want to have at least some trump card that can give a chance that excludes a full-scale war.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Alex_Popovson

Canada and Germany

Where did the nuclear bomb come from in Canada and Germany? Why does the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Missile Weapons approve the range of missiles that can be exported no more than 300km? Because this is the minimum distance when using nuclear weapons which guarantees the security of the territory of the applying party. Anything closer than 300km is already dangerous to one degree or another. So with regards to Israel, which has about 80 (And if you believe the open report of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service of 1993. potentially 100-200BZ link) warheads depart from the borders that they consider to be their territory and look against whom it is possible to use these weapons painlessly. Neighbor countries will naturally not get on this list. There is a simulator in 3D NUKEMAP 3D/ In the public domain, it is the most realistic, although not without flaws.

[mirag2]

Other countries that are members of the nuclear club (having acquired nuclear weapons earlier than others) have compiled and signed a nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
Countries that violated this agreement are rogue states (the same North Korea), and Israel, as a violator of this treaty, must also be on the list of rogue states and subjected to sanctions.
By the way.

[Professor]

Quote: mirag2

Israel, as a violator of this treaty-

Go learn the materiel. When did Israel sign the allegedly violated treaty?

[mirag2]

This you teach, I’m not saying that ISRAEL signed it, and then violated
The Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is a multilateral international act developed by the UN Disarmament Committee with the aim of putting a solid barrier to expanding the circle of countries possessing nuclear weapons and ensuring the necessary international control over the implementation by states Under the Agreement of Obligations in order to limit the possibility of an armed conflict using such weapons; create ample opportunities for the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
Approved by the UN General Assembly on June 12, 1968 and open for signature on July 1, 1968 in Moscow, Washington and London. It was ratified by the USSR on November 24, 1969 (the Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR for the implementation of the Treaty). Entered into force on March 5, 1970 after the deposit of instruments of ratification by depository states (USSR (signed in 1968), USA (1968), Great Britain (1968)), as well as 40 other countries. France and the PRC signed the Treaty in 1992. On May 11, 1995, over 170 participating countries agreed to extend the Treaty indefinitely without any additional conditions.
The parties to the agreement are almost all independent states of the world. Israel, India, Pakistan and the DPRK are not parties to the treaty .-
-a I say that those countries that did not sign it, violators, outcasts-Korea and Israel as well.
Probably from indignation you have lost attention.

[Professor]

Quote: mirag2

This you teach, I’m not saying that ISRAEL signed it, and then violated

Signed up? Yah? Where? by whom ? When?

Quote: mirag2

Israel, India, Pakistan and the DPRK are not parties to the treaty .-

Can you read? Not party to Israel

Quote: mirag2

but I say that those countries that it was not signed by violators, outcasts-Korea and Israel, including

Violators of what did not sign? Do not smell the glue moment.

[mirag2]

I just didn’t have enough ...

[Pimply]

Quote: mirag2

I just didn’t have enough ...

Patience? Understanding? Letters?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: mirag2

Entered into force 5 March 1970 ...

"The treaty establishes that a state possessing nuclear weapons is considered one that acquired such weapons before January 1, 1967"
That is, when Israel already de facto had nuclear weapons (somewhere between 1963-1966), therefore, if Israel signs this treaty, it will only become the 6th "official" next to the USA, Russia, China, France and Britain. Does anyone feel better from this?

[Pimply]

Quote: mirag2

This you teach, I’m not saying that ISRAEL signed it, and then violated

Find when Israel signed it. Unlike Iran, say.

North Korea, by the way, signed. Therefore, sanctions.

[Khrushchev]

from the point of view of yusovschiny. Countries that do not sign the treaty cannot legally own nuclear weapons. and must be subjected to ruthless and immediate democratization

[atalef]

Quote: Khrushchev

from the point of view of yusovschiny. Countries that do not sign the treaty cannot legally own nuclear weapons. and must be subjected to ruthless and immediate democratization

there is no such thing, do not tell fairy tales, from the point of view of the NPT treaty, the countries that signed the NPT do not have the right, they did not sign their personal matter. It’s just that oranges do not grow on aspen, who can develop their own nuclear program, train personnel, and create a nuclear industry? To do this, you must have at least scientific and production potential, who will pull it? Israel could, itself, not being in the NPT, therefore there are no complaints against it, there are no sanctions, and it’s enough to nod at the Americans, Russia is the same guarantor of the NPT as America and has equal rights with America as the general guarantor, as who Russia is not yelling about sanctions against Israel - for one reason- a country that has not signed a treaty - cannot violate it - this is an unshakable postulate of all international law and jurisprudence. The countries that signed the NPT received from the USA and Russia both the opportunity to build nuclear power plants, as well as nuclear research and industrial reactors, student training and nuclear technology - all this in exchange for the obligation not to develop military nuclear programs - countries violating the NPT (from its signatories) fall under sanctions of the UN Security Council and this is the same in the agreement, therefore Iran and Korea are subject to sanctions, including with the consent of Russia.
Understand the topic, so as not to look funny. Israel has long wanted to build an atomic e-mail. station, the project was developed back in 1990, a site has been allocated, but no one is selling us a reactor (due to the fact that we are not in the NPT) ?, and we ourselves can’t do it (we don’t have a steelmaking industry) - therefore, until now we do not have a nuclear power plant, despite the fact that Egypt and Jordan are quietly starting to build nuclear power plants - they are in the NPT and no one can stop them from doing this

[atalef]

Quote: mirag2

Countries that violated this agreement are rogue states (the same North Korea), and Israel, as a violator of this treaty, must also be on the list of rogue states and subjected to sanctions.
By the way.

So by the way. S. Korea - she is a violator of the contract since By signing it, it secretly developed a military nuclear program, which is why it is under sanctions (including those supported by Russia)
Israel has never signed a treaty (which is entirely voluntary). Therefore, it cannot a priori violate it.
Russia also did not sign an agreement on equality of rights with S. ex-minorities - is it a violator of it?
The countries that signed the LNNF (the guarantors of which are the United States and Russia) gain access to technology. enrollment of students, obtaining technology, etc. (from guarantor countries) therefore, before the sanctions against Iran in the United States, hundreds of judges studied at the nuclear (roughly speaking) faculties.
Israel that has not signed this treaty is deprived of this privilege - therefore, everything is nuclear. what is in Israel is developed exclusively in Israel - other countries do not have the right to help us with this - because automatically violate the NPT and may be subject to sanctions.

[Pimply]

Quote: mirag2

Countries that violated this agreement are rogue states (the same North Korea), and Israel, as a violator of this treaty, must also be on the list of rogue states and subjected to sanctions.
By the way.

Israel, like India and Pakistan, did not sign this agreement, therefore they are not violators.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Pimply

Israel, like India and Pakistan, did not sign this agreement, therefore they are not violators.

It is felt that the Israelis took into account the experience of the American Indians, do not sign treaties with the states. I am not strong in US-Israeli relations ... Do you have any agreements with the United States? Precisely treaties?
The free trade agreement does not count, here the Jews are not ..., you can’t deceive, in general

But the Arabs and the Persians did not take into account the fate of the Indians, but they live on oil reserves.

[Pimply]

Quote: bot.su

It is felt that the Israelis took into account the experience of the American Indians, do not sign treaties with the states. I am not strong in US-Israeli relations ... Do you have any agreements with the United States? Precisely treaties?

Are you aware that the NPT is not a contract with the United States?

[Vasek]

Quote: Alex_Popovson

True, no one will do it. No, really, does that mean India, Pakistan, North Korea, Canada and Germany should be banned from having vigorous bonbon?

??
Could you share the address of the guarantor of information that the indicated all participating countries really possess nuclear weapons?

[Papakiko]

Quote: s-t Petrov

I would send $ 1 billion in democracy promotion

Better send it to me in Yekaterinburg. We, as a "stronghold of the power" can do a lot to maintain and promote democracies anywhere in the world.
Do not hesitate to share the BUBL, if not a lot of pity.
Especially for the right thing.
In a personal details I can send right now.

[Professor]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Israel needs to reduce its nuclear weapons, which according to all treaties it should not have.

Name at least one contract you mentioned.

[bask]

reduce Namer production by 60%

Very expensive.
Probably, they will again switch to the BTR M113.
And of course, the massive use of shock UAVs.

[Professor]

Quote: bask

Very expensive.
Probably, they will again switch to the BTR M113.

This is not the case. With whom to fight? Syria is over, Egypt and Jordan are interested in peace, and there is enough equipment for Lebanon and Gaza.

[sds555]

But no one canceled the sayings "If you want peace, prepare for war", according to this logic, you can disarm until you can not stop in time

[Professor]

Quote: sds555

But no one canceled the sayings "If you want peace, prepare for war", according to this logic, you can disarm until you can not stop in time

Realities are changing, and the IDF is changing with them. There are no charters in Tsakhal, so doing this is not difficult ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: sds555

But no one canceled the sayings "If you want peace, prepare for war", according to this logic, you can disarm until you can not stop in time

Well, it's just that the realities are that Israel can afford to double its disarmament and still remain the dominant force in the entire BV. If you look even purely theoretically - today there are only two forces capable of threatening the existence of Israel only through conventional weapons - these are the USA and the PRC, only the first are a strategic ally, and the second already 15 years already snarling friends stuffing (not unsuccessfully), at this At the moment there are at least 10 multi-billion dollar infrastructure projects in Israel that the Chinese are perhaps willing to build for nothing, for the right of access to the Israeli technological and scientific base (someone wondered where are the legs of the Chinese technological breakthrough of recent years growing? )

[Vadivak]

Quote: professor

With whom to fight?

Really. For example, in the valley Hamas is fighting against Hezbollah, and on the mountain (according to Mao) a smart monkey is looking at them

[bask]

Quote: professor

. With whom to fight?

Then why not, orders an armored car..MRAP.
This is a special armored vehicle for sweeping in the city and villages.

And again, the massive use of aviation. In particular, convertiplanes.
Special Forces waved on motorcycles ..
cry.

[Professor]

Quote: bask

Then why not, orders an armored car..MRAP.
This is a special armored vehicle for sweeping in the city and villages.

Mrap in the city is not a tenant. It is good for patrolling and transporting drugs to the village, and then in the old fashioned manner and through the walls.

Quote: bask

And again, the massive use of aviation. In particular, convertiplanes.
Special Forces waved on motorcycles ..

Aviation in Israel is a special topic, but the special forces again.

[bask]

Quote: professor

It is good for patrolling and transporting drugs to the village, and then in the old fashioned way and through the walls

That’s what I had in mind. For the redeployment of troops, why expensive BTR-T, the same ,, Ahzarit ,,,. And Mk 3,4 tanks.
Infantry can cope with a few resistance, with the support of aviation.And all-weather and all-day.

But all this is not the main thing.
Just for the next 10 years (here I agree with you) potential enemies are not expected.
And if the United States appears, they will quickly increase production.

[Professor]

Quote: bask

Just for the next 10 years (here I agree with you) potential enemies are not expected.
And if the United States appears, they will quickly increase production.

If it appears, then Israel itself will build up, not the first time.

[bask]

Quote: professor

If it appears, then Israel itself will build up, not the first time.

Do not increase.
From the construction of MK 5, abandoned, 60% reduction in HAMER BTR-T.
But the United States, without even equipping the Marine Corps.
The air force transmits a wave of 13, convertiplanes with a flight range of 720 cells.
For what purposes. And the goal is one Iran.

The Gaza Strip and Hamas no longer pose a threat.
Also because they are under the complete control of Turkey.
Why keep an armored fist of such a limited range.
All armored vehicles were flying for a war within a radius of 200-300 cells.

[Professor]

Quote: bask

Do not increase.

He wants to build up. Mk5 will not be unnecessary. Turkey has no influence on Hezbollah and very little influence on Hamas. It will be very difficult to fight them without heavy infantry fighting vehicles.

Quote: bask

All armored vehicles were flying for a war within a radius of 200-300 cells.

Gaza, Lebanon.

[bask]

Quote: professor

Turkey has no influence on Hezbollah and very little influence on Hamas.

On Hezbollah, only Iran has influence. Before the war, partly Syria.
Hamas, maybe not 100%, but under the control of Turkey.
Only Turkey entered into conflict over Gaza. (NATO member).

[Professor]

Quote: bask

Quote: professor

Turkey has no influence on Hezbollah and very little influence on Hamas.

On Hezbollah, only Iran has influence. Before the war, partly Syria.
Hamas, maybe not 100%, but under the control of Turkey.
Only Turkey entered into conflict over Gaza. (NATO member).

You are completely off topic. Arabs hate the Turks. They have not forgotten the charms of the Ottoman Empire. Turkey in Gaza has a very, very weak influence. Turkey went into conflict because of a desire to gain influence in the Arab world, and Gaza is just an excuse.

[Vadivak]

Quote: professor

but the special forces again pyohom.

It rarely happens otherwise. But of course there were Prague and Entebbe

[Professor]

Quote: Vadivak

It rarely happens otherwise. But of course there were Prague and Entebbe

Entebbe is the only one. I don’t think anyone will repeat this.

[Pimply]

Quote: bask

Then why not, orders an armored car..MRAP.
This is a special armored vehicle for sweeping in the city and villages.

So mine action vehicles and so on. And do

[Hon]

Quote: professor

This is not the case. With whom to fight? Syria is over, Egypt and Jordan are interested in peace, and there is enough equipment for Lebanon and Gaza.

[Professor]

Yeah, in the desert, Tzahal will trample on Iran. Himself not funny?

[Hon]

Quote: professor

Yeah, in the desert, Tzahal will trample on Iran. Himself not funny?

And who said that the IDF would trample?

[Hon]

Quote: professor

Yeah, in the desert, Tzahal will trample on Iran. Himself not funny?

And who said that the IDF would trample?

[Professor]

Quote: Hon

And who said that the IDF would trample?

And we kind of discuss Israel here ...

[Hon]

Well, if Iran trample on Israel?

[Professor]

Quote: Hon

Well, if Iran trample on Israel?

Do you want to chat? Take a look at the map. Iran will first need to occupy Iraq and Sunni Syria. continue to fantasize?

[Pimply]

Quote: professor

Do you want to chat? Take a look at the map. Iran will first need to occupy Iraq and Sunni Syria. continue to fantasize?

Not so unlikely, given the possible split between Syria and Iraq

[bask]

Quote: professor

You are completely off topic.

Quote: Pimply

Not so unlikely, given the possible split between Syria and Iraq

The reduction of heavy armored vehicles BTR-T, MK4, this is not a purely Israeli trend.
Israel is a Western country. And in the West, under the influence of the United States, there is a complete rethinking of the use of armored vehicles in asymmetric wars.
Refusal to purchase MBT, BMP on the General Staff.
And vice versa, building, procurement of BMP.BTR on an 8x8 wheeled chassis.
Reconnaissance and multi-purpose armored vehicles ....
With a massive purchase of UAVs and airplanes and helicopters, convertiplanes.
All these changes are the result of the analysis of 2 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Professor]

Quote: Pimply

Not so unlikely, given the possible split between Syria and Iraq

Well yes. Supply columns stretch for thousands of kilometers across hostile Sunni territory.

[Pimply]

There is not only Sunni, do not forget. Both Iraq and Syria are half Shiites (Alawites, etc.)

[Professor]

Quote: Pimply

There is not only Sunni, do not forget. Both Iraq and Syria are half Shiites (Alawites, etc.)

I do remember. Something like this will happen.

[Hon]

Syria will not have to be occupied, given the "love" of the Syrians for Israel, they may well provide their territory as a bridgehead, the troops can be transferred by aircraft and navy.

[Professor]

Quote: Hon

Syria will not have to be occupied, given the "love" of the Syrians for Israel, they may well provide their territory as a bridgehead, the troops can be transferred by aircraft and navy.

You are alone? You have no one to chat with? Which fleet? What kind of aviation? Logistics will destroy everything and everything before Israel takes it.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Hon

Syria will not have to be occupied, given the "love" of the Syrians for Israel, they may well provide their territory as a bridgehead, the troops can be transferred by aircraft and navy.

Do not reach.

[Pimply]

This is the point. Reduce the military budget actively.

[Cherdak]

Quote: professor

... don't toss bags.

The discussion of the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel reminds me of an old joke:

Little Izya never shouted in a children's toy store: - "Buy-buy-buy!"
He began quietly with some abstract topic, for example: - "Dad, was your childhood also difficult and bleak?"

[mirag2]

And according to what contract does he have the right to have it?
According to what is a sovereign country?

[Professor]

Quote: mirag2

And according to what contract does he have the right to have it?

According to the one that does not forbid him. Oppanki. There is no such contract or law. have arrived.

[mirag2]

Where have you come?
To nuclear-free Iran?
And on the basis of what agreements can Iran not have nuclear weapons?
Based on the wishes of a neighbor?
Foolish?

[Professor]

Quote: mirag2

And on the basis of what agreements can Iran not have nuclear weapons?

Last time I feed the troll.
Based on the NPT signed by him.

[mirag2]

Well, he doesn’t have it!
Complies with the NPT.
"Maariv" 25.04.1984/XNUMX/XNUMX: Iran is about to create an atomic bomb
As evidence, a photo of the front page of the Israeli newspaper Maariv dated April 25.04.1984, 30 was published on the Internet with the headline: "Khomeini's atomic bomb is in the final stage of production with the help of Germany." Below is a photo of then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir dancing at the Mimuna festival. This may indirectly indicate that XNUMX years ago, Israeli prime ministers did not go into hysterics over the Iranian threat.
http://www.isra.com/news/168000

[Professor]

Quote: mirag2

Well, he doesn’t have it!

I don’t feed Bole, eat in another place.

[Pimply]

Quote: mirag2

Well, he doesn’t have it!

You are stupid, I'm sorry. Before you get into conversation with adult uncles, try to at least read the contract you are trying to talk about

[atalef]

Quote: mirag2

And according to what contract does he have the right to have it?

But what in order to have it is necessary to negotiate with someone?

[Aaron Zawi]

Can stop talking nonsense. Jews were called Palestinians in 46-48, and Arabs considered themselves part of "Southern Syria".

[mirag2]

Yes, the wise decision is that there really isn’t enough democracy there, even if they mess with their internal problems, and let their country be divided along the ridges into at least 40 parts.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: c-Petrov

To Hamas, in general, I would send 1 $ billion to promote democracy in neighboring Israel ...

I sincerely wish you Hamas as a neighbor, so that they would promote such democracy to your children!

[Alex_Popovson]

We are not interested in preserving even a small part of the population of Israel

Who are "we? The Nazis? But if the Arabs destroy Israel, then a huge number of innocent people will go under the knife like cattle, and the North of Africa and the Middle East will finally be Salafist-jihadist. Who will suffer from this in the first place? No, not India. Give a hint?

[Basarev]

If this is a hint of Russia, then again by - from the north of Africa and the Middle East to Russia as to the edge of the Galaxy on foot

[atalef]

Quote: Basarev

If this is a hint of Russia, then again by - from the north of Africa and the Middle East to Russia as to the edge of the Galaxy on foot

It’s strange. but the main part is confident in the other. Proving that in the case of the victory of bandits in Syria. for some reason they immediately rush to Russia, and not to Israel

[mirag2]

Don’t tell me, they are also on the way to the border who will be shot by Tzahalians without warning in the air.

[atalef]

Quote: mirag2

Don’t tell me, they are also on the way to the border who will be shot by Tzahalians without warning in the air.

You can not doubt it. Therefore, we are somehow not very worried

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Basarev

Personally, this is at hand for us. We are not interested in preserving even a small part of the Israeli population. I will only be for when the Arabs destroy the nest of aggression and robbery by the name of Israel

I just don't understand why you didn't write at the end of the sentence: "Heil Hitler" or "Alla Akbar". It would be very suitable here.

[Salamander]

And you would not mind fyuyut - and not a single Palestinian? Would all Israel’s problems with the Arabs be resolved at once (by the disappearance of the latter)? Never wanted to? Only honestly!

[atalef]

Quote: Salamander

And you would not mind fyuyut - and not a single Palestinian? R

Exactly in the same measure. how would you like that there would be no American

Quote: Salamander

Only honestly!

Of course I wanted to.

[alex86]

Quote: Basarev

.We are not interested

Just a question - "we" - who is this? So I am not interested and I do not know anyone who is interested. Perhaps you live in some other country - Iran, for example. And for a normal person - "there is a quarter of our former people" (V.S. Vysotsky), now it is more ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Basarev

Personally, this is at hand for us. We are not interested in preserving even a small part of the Israeli population. I will only be for when the Arabs destroy the nest of aggression and robbery by the name of Israel

Fascist genetic trash simply can not live without Israel as I look, I simply owe my rotten 5 kopecks ..

[Professor]

Quote: Alex_Popovson

The whole country, and this is 13 million.

8 million

[Salamander]

The absolute error in the calculation of Jews and Chinese is 100%

[Cherdak]

Quote: professor

The whole country, and this is 13 million ... 8 million

So you have already begun to bargain

“Sarah, don't you dare to mind me!”
- Abramchik, I don’t mind. I am silent
- Then take the opinion off your face!

[Ptah]

Quote: Cherdak

So you have already begun to bargain

But to confirm the "Theory of the permanent holocaust" it is more profitable to have 13 mulion after all.
First is the sacred number.
Secondly - "covers the present fact"

During one of the discussions on the number of Jews killed during the Second World War.
- And what proof of this figure do you need?
- We need to conduct an investigative experiment ...

[atalef]

Quote: Cherdak

So you have already begun to bargain

In general, bargaining is not appropriate here. This is official data.

[atalef]

Quote: Alex_Popovson

How many civilians in Israel are directly dependent on the protection of troops? The whole country, which is 13 million people

In total, there are 8 million people in Israel, of which 1.5 million are Arab.

[mirag2]

And there are even Thais - who, together with the Arabs, work on Jewish farms in the occupied lands, growing the "best" cherry tomatoes!

[Pimply]

Quote: Alex_Popovson

And what good? How many civilians in Israel are directly dependent on the protection of troops? The whole country, and this is 13 million people. And if there is no weapon, how many civilians will suffer from all sorts of Hamas?

8 million

[Conepatus]

Quote: Romn

When they have all the military production will rise, then it will be good!

Namer for Israel in the USA seems to be produced, even though the development of Israel

[tilovaykrisa]

Our 90s is theirs 2010-2020 they simply delayed the collapse of their GDP due to the markets of the lost USSR, everything is natural.

[atalef]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

Our 90s is theirs 2010-2020 they simply delayed the collapse of their GDP due to the markets of the lost USSR, everything is natural.

You can decode so to speak, in order to understand the train of thought

[tilovaykrisa]

What is not clear? The crisis of the economic system leads to a reduction in defense spending, the closure of programs, a reduction in personnel and the level of income in the army, which leads to increased corruption, outright theft of various levels, reduced quality of the professionalism of the military, no one will serve with uncertain prospects and low salaries if you can be a loader in civilian life earn more. Look at the growing level of crime, alcoholism and drug abuse in the US Army, new scandals related to corruption in the procurement of weapons and more. And they delayed all this due to the loss of the USSR’s sales markets in all areas, just right now the USSR took the place of China and he, unlike the USSR, defeated the USA, the situation is close to the one that was between the USSR and the USA only the USA right now as the USSR.

[Kus Imak]

I have heard about the decaying West since the 26th Congress of the CPSU. Borovik and Zorin were plagued by time proving how badly in America.

[rugor]

Have you changed your mind about fighting? It is unlikely. Probably something new is coming.

[alone]

Nobody changed their minds about fighting. There is no real force in the region that could threaten Israel. What is enough to protect Israel. The bet is on missile defense. That's the whole point of what they are doing. And the liberated finances are used at the discretion. It's still Israel. , just like that, nobody saves on defense there, and even more so, nobody cuts the military budget.

[igor67]

Quote: lonely

Nobody changed their minds about fighting. There is no real force in the region that could threaten Israel. What is enough to protect Israel. The bet is on missile defense. That's the whole point of what they are doing. And the liberated finances are used at the discretion. It's still Israel. , just like that, nobody saves on defense there, and even more so, nobody cuts the military budget.

I also think so. A more or less land strong army was in Syria, but after three years of civil war, it was weakened and much, so what's the point riveting unnecessary equipment, it is better in the ABM or in the Navy

[Papakiko]

Quote: igor67

better in missile defense or in the navy

In which direction is the "spit"?
Who do you intend to fight at sea and in airspace?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Papakiko

Who do you intend to fight at sea and in airspace?

Well, with missile defense it’s clear, but with the Navy a question.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Papakiko

Who do you intend to fight at sea and in airspace?

Well, with missile defense it’s clear, but with the Navy a question.

Submarines and corvettes do not so much require crews as funds for maintenance.

[Papakiko]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Well, with missile defense

so they create an anti-mortar missile defense and missile defense system against what the Israelis call missiles like "sparrows and a cannon".
the question remained unanswered.

[Ptah]

Quote: Ingvar 72

and with the Navy a question.

Sea blockade. Egypt, Lebanon, again Syria.
Exit through the Red Sea, to the Gulf of Aden, the Arabian Sea, and further to the Gulf of Oman and the Persian.
The prospects are quite tempting ....

[igor67]

Quote: Papakiko

Quote: igor67

better in missile defense or in the navy

In which direction is the "spit"?
Who do you intend to fight at sea and in airspace?

Already written, gas platforms

[Ascetic]

Quote: lonely

.This is all the same Israel, just like that, nobody is saving on the defense, and even more so nobody cuts the military budget.

Where does such naivety come from?
Russia belongs to a group of countries with a “high” level of corruption risks of the defense budget execution along with such countries as Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan and Israel. This conclusion was reached by employees of the British division of Transparency International (TI), who published on Tuesday a study on the quality of parliamentary oversight of military budgets in 82 countries.

link
Countries are divided into six groups of corruption risk - from “A” (minimum risk) to “F” (critical risk level). The general conclusion is that 70% of states put their security at risk and squander taxpayers' money because they do not have effective tools to prevent corruption in the defense sector.
According to the report, Truly strong and effective anti-corruption mechanisms that prevent the squandering of money in the defense sector are found in only two countries of the world - Germany and Australia. Only these countries fell into group “A”. The “critical risk” group included nine states in Africa and the Middle East, including Egypt and Syria.
Israel joined the D + group along with countries such as Ukraine, Kenya, Lebanon, South Africa and the United Arab Emirates.
Israel’s defense budget is not transparent, but there is no evidence of organized crime entering the defense sector, crime cases are rare, and when this happens, effective counter-measures are taken. The risk of corruption is also reduced by the fact that the Ministry of Defense is not working with private military contractors.
The risk of personal corruption is relatively small, in the case of corruption crimes, even the highest ranks were brought to court, appointments in the army are made on personal merits (“an effective meritocratic mechanism”).
At the same time, no systematic measures are being taken in the army to combat corruption. The weakest point in terms of the possible penetration of corruption is the lack of an effective government policy on military procurement.
Israeli “defense industry” in the ranking of corruption

[alone]

Stanislas ! the problem is not who is in such a group. I know well what Israel and its defense capabilities are. If the case with intentions somehow would not be in favor of Israel, believe me, they would not do that.

[mirag2]

Gesheft destroys even dreams of "Great Eretz Yisrael from the Nile to the Euphrates."

[AGM-114]

So no one to fight. The only women who run water pipes with shit. somewhere towards Israel. There would be invested in missile defense.

[Chicot 1]

They did not have time to really expand the production of Namers, and they are already cutting back ... Not everything is in order in the Tel Aviv kingdom, once they begin to save (more than half) on the latest weapons ...

[Know-nothing]

So all the neighbors are sitting under the key, and you can save.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Dunno

So all the neighbors are sitting under the key, you can save

Give slack - they will climb out at the same second. So they can’t be given a descent, which means it’s not worth saving on armaments however ...

[TS3sta3]

it’s obvious that the Americans are doing very badly, even if the Jews cannot get money from them for arming the Israeli army.

[mirag2]

Knocked out, knocked out.
More than ever, but less than wanted.

[VADEL]

I would like to read the comment of the source. What so suddenly and immediately at 60. There is no space in the garage?

[Professor]

Quote: VADEL

I would like to read the comment of the source. What so suddenly and immediately at 60. There is no space in the garage?

Like this:
Factory in the USA Congress, you will not give us money, and we will fire a bunch of people.
Congress: take money for Abrams
US Army: Abrams we do not need. All that you produce will go to the warehouse.
Factory in USA: Everything is lost. Fired.
Congress: Find what to produce
Israel: We would have money for the Namers ...
Congress: We will give money if we make them with us
...
Factory in USA: Little money, lay off and reduce the production of Nameers by 600%. Well, at least 60%.
Congress: We print money, wait.
...

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: professor

Like that:....

Good for you!

[Cherdak]

Quote: professor

Little money, lay off and reduce the production of Nameers by 600%.

Call:
“Listen, Moisha, do you have any honest, good accountant in mind?”
- Yes, but he still has a year to sit.

[mirag2]

A couple of years ago, the Americans decided to continue the production of Abrams precisely for the sake of preserving jobs.

[starhina01]

I wonder how it will end Israelis stir up something again

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: starhina01

I wonder how it will end Israelis stir up something again

BTV are now going through a stage of serious reforms with the reduction of reserve brigades with the old models in service, as well as in structural changes. In principle, by 2019, only Mk 2/3/4 should remain in both the personnel and reservist units. This is what they write on Otag.

News from Oleg Granovsky. The era of MAGAC in AOI is ending.
http://www.yadlashiryon.com/show_item.a … itemType=0
Article from 10.11.13/XNUMX/XNUMX with reference to "Janes".
1) In July 2013, Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon authorized the closure of 6 reserve brigades MAGAH-7 and Merkava-1;
2) In October 2013, the chief officer of the brt troops, Shmuel Olensky, informed about structural changes of the brt battalions: one tank company will be transferred to the reserve, and the fire support company will be created in the battalions (as far as I understand, we are not talking about the existing reservist company HERMESH), consisting of:
- mortar platoon - 120-mm mortars "Keshet" on the M113;
- surveillance platoon on Namer;
- reconnaissance platoon on Namer.
3) In 2014, the transfer of the 7th brigade to the Merkava-4 will begin.
http://www.yadlashiryon.com/show_item.a … itemType=0
The article of 19.11.13/11/7 "IDF is parting with the glorified tank MAGAH" on the site "Yad le Chirion". The article says about the closure of the 1964th brt brt brt "Iftah" (comm. - Colonel Oren Solomon), armed with tanks "MAGAH-48" and with it - the end of the MAGAH service in the IDF, which began in XNUMX with a stay in Israel the first MXNUMX.
There is an interesting plate "Technical data". Among other things, it says:
1) The MAGAH park in AOI reached 1500 maximum, which is less than open sources wrote (it was before 2000: 1400 M60 and 600 M48);
2) The mass of the heaviest model (apparently "MAGAH-7") reached 67 tons. The text about MAGAH-7 says: "It weighs only a little less than Merkava-4."

[Cherdak]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

BTV are now undergoing a phase of major reforms with a reduction in reservist brigades

"Where did we miss?" - Moisha's parents thought painfully, listening to their son playing the balalaika ...

[v53993]

Most likely some kind of nonsense turned out at the exit. But why this was announced openly, it is worth considering.

[Aleksandr76]

Perhaps they want to launch something new into production.

[Aaron Zawi]

No, we don’t want to. Threats just change, and take off and prioritize the distribution of the military budget. Here's how they explain it at the GPS.

New information on reducing the order for Nameers.
http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/t-584266-...;הב
They write that the agreement with GDLS from October 2010 (started in February 2011) was for the production of 386 Namer at the plant in Lima, Ohio, incl. 110 in the first stage + option for 276 additional. The price is 730 thousand dollars (but this is not the full price of Namer, but only what GDLS produces, that is, the building and a number of central units). Now the Israeli Ministry of Defense is reducing the order to 170 pieces, while you will have to pay a fine of 17 million dollars, and the unit price will rise to 900 thousand dollars

.
The main reasons for the reduction are seen in the general reduction of armored vehicles in the coming years and a significant redistribution of military budget funds in the ABM and the Navy. In principle, according to new estimates, by 2019, taking into account domestic production, an infantry battalion on Namers will be in each tank brigade on Mk-4 and Mk-3D (4 + 2) and two mech / brigades "Golani" and "Alexandroni".

[Setrac]

A show-off was at the "chosen of God." And it turns out that the Israeli "Namer" is American, and whose engines? Is the Merkava American too?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Setrac

A show-off was at the "chosen of God." And it turns out that the Israeli "Namer" is American, and whose engines? Is the Merkava American too?

Sergey, you are somewhat funny in your anti-Semitism.

[Setrac]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Sergey, you are somewhat funny in your anti-Semitism.

I asked a specific question, whose engines are in the name of? German? And on merkava? You are ridiculous in your attempt to evade the answer. How many articles were what a beautiful ISRAELIAN BTR-BMP intends, and now it turns out that they only collect it in Israel.

[alex86]

Quote: Setrac

in Israel they only collect.

As far as I remember, only the corps is made in the States, and at the request of the States themselves - they did not want to release money from the country, they are ready to help, but by providing their own work.

[Ptah]

Quote: Setrac

and now it turns out that they only collect it in Israel.

As far as I understand, the full cycle includes "assembly" only at the last stage, and begins with the extraction of ore and smelting of metal and other things ...
In this respect, Israel is always preparing for a "small victorious campaign" and is absolutely not INDEPENDENT.

[mirag2]

Engine on Namer from Merkava 3.
But at first Merkava was German, but it was breaking down, they decided to put the Shtatovsky one, cheaper by 2/XNUMX and more reliable.
So on Namer 1200 a strong staffing engine.
Housing too.

[Setrac]

Quote: mirag2

So on Namer 1200 a strong staffing engine.

But what about Israel?

[mirag2]

Name and system "iron first"

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Sergey, you are somewhat funny in your anti-Semitism.

I asked a specific question, whose engines are in the name of? German? And on merkava? You are ridiculous in your attempt to evade the answer. How many articles were what a beautiful ISRAELIAN BTR-BMP intends, and now it turns out that they only collect it in Israel.

If you ask this question in person, and not on the Internet, I won’t be surprised that you have not enough teeth. Rude please. I repeat once again already voiced. Israel is part of the Western market and it is absolutely unnecessary to invent a bicycle or build capacity to fulfill a specific task. In the process of constructing their machines, our designers take into account the achievements of Western industry.

[Setrac]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Rude please.

Do you have cancer?

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Israel is part of the Western market and it is absolutely unnecessary to invent a bicycle or build capacity to fulfill a specific task. In the process of constructing their machines, our designers take into account the achievements of Western industry.

This is true for civilian products; in military production this is unacceptable.
And even more so, this product will be called fraudulent Israeli, right - co-production.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Setrac

This is true for civilian products; in military production this is unacceptable.
And even more so, this product will be called fraudulent Israeli, right - co-production.

T / e MiG-15 is a joint Soviet-British production?

[Setrac]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

T / e MiG-15 is a joint Soviet-British production?

Those that came with the British engines - yes, joint production, but how many were with the British engines? Two?

[Pimply]

Quote: Setrac

This is true for civilian products; in military production this is unacceptable.
And even more so, this product will be called fraudulent Israeli, right - co-production.

Truth? It is nonsense

[mirag2]

"two engine options - AVDS of American Continental Motors and type 833 of German MTU. The decision regarding the engine will determine the choice of the second component of the power plant - the transmission. It will be Allison or Renk, respectively. The main selection criterion will be price."
This is about the "Israeli" intent from rivet to bolt.

[Setrac]

Quote: mirag2

This is about the "Israeli" intent from rivet to bolt.

as it is, there are only rivets and bolts in Israel in Namer, for the greater gloomy genius of the children of Satan is not enough.

[colonel manuch]

Surely during the operation they came to the conclusion that modernization is necessary. And the Americans will give some money to thinking about the proposal and toss it up.

[Victor Wolz]

They would sell us Namers, with a hundred for analysis, and even if they make assault brigades for urban combat, they are good cars. But it’s harder for us to abandon the doctrine of nuclear war than to create purely assault brigades, rather than motorized rifle or landing troops with weak armor.

[kelevra]

In relations of once very good allies, a chill appeared!

[Barakuda]

Quote: Alex_Popovson

When they have all the military production will rise, then it will be good!

And what good? How many civilians in Israel are directly dependent on the protection of troops? The whole country, and this is 13 million people. And if there is no weapon, how many civilians will suffer from all sorts of Hamas?

Peaceful "people" with the support of the United States drove these "Hamas" from the land and built them reservations in the likeness of the American Indians in the United States since 1947. Bible, Jews are Falistians. So they still squabble. Read the history, rummage pliz!

[Kus Imak]

These Hamas in 1948, if they had won, we would not have been driven into the reservation, but thrown into the sea to the great joy of some of those present here. Learn the story.

[Insectid]

Quote: Kus Imak

These Hamas in 1948, if they had won, we would not have driven us into the reservation,

Then the repatriates would be sitting in the USSR, which they were falling apart during the retreat, on their butts exactly. Would swarm in "sharashkas" and sawed on fiddles. They would repair tusks and make faces on stage. Well, and a lot of other things that are necessary and useful, and they would not be chatting on sites under the very obscene nickname "kus amak" in translation from Hebrew is ......

PS. We must not forget to hint to administrators about the translation.

[Barakuda]

Quote: kelevra

In relations of once very good allies, a chill appeared!

Israel will die without the United States, this is a "no-brainer", the states are licking their ass as best they can, and the states have a lot of problems, will they pull it? American Cuba?

[Pimply]

Quote: Barracuda

Israel will die without the United States, this is a "no-brainer", the states are licking their ass as best they can, and the states have a lot of problems, will they pull it? American Cuba?

The United States began to cooperate with Israel after 1969, when Israel in four wars showed that he is an extremely influential and hard-core player in the Middle East.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Pimply

extremely influential and hardcore player in the Middle East.

The student after the tavern is resting on a bench, next to the textbook lies.
A cop approaches, takes a book and slowly reads:
- Landau, Lifshitz "Field Theory" ... Hey you, agronomist Kugnosenky, get up!

[Cherdak]

Thank you, dear Professor, Aaron Zawi, atalef!

Reading your posts was an exceptional pleasure. Just like in the holy land visited

Still an ambitious Jewish writer to find with a national sense of humor (for personal purposes)

[mirag2]

I can recommend a great person Masha Gessen.
Will teach many interesting fun.
Yes, now almost anyone who knows how to write (literate, then) a Jew is either an advanced blogger, or even a seedy writer and doctor of sciences. Anyway, there are some, most importantly a specialist, whose opinion is certainly true.

[Ptah]

Absolutely accurate remark. And this, it seems to me, comes from the childhood of the little Jews themselves.
In every courtyard of the USSR there was (and probably is now) such a "smart guy" who, neither can pull himself up a couple of times, nor his mother does not allow him to wear a knife, in any section, except for chess, he "zapadlo" to write down, nothing else that an ordinary kid seems a natural thing ...
In our role, a similar object was Misha (Moysha). Oh, and he got it .... But he still did not become a doctor of sciences, no commerce, or a fit guy.
They say about such people "neither fish, nor meat", but fairy tales for the idiot to rivet are puffed up ...

pupyrchaty.livejournal.com

Quote: mirag2

Anyway, some, but most importantly, a specialist whose opinion is of course in its truth.

This is about the "bubble" ....
What he just was not. And a tanker, and an artilleryman, and a flyer, and a sailor, and five days ago he became a nuclear physicist ....
In short, he knows everything, he’s already been everywhere and there’s nowhere to send ...

[Cherdak]

Quote: Ptah

everywhere has already been and send something like nowhere ....

to Zion!

[Ptah]

Quote: Cherdak

to Zion!

Already been ... As he writes, as much as a half dozen years ...

Quote: Pimply

I lived in Israel for 15 years, dear.

There are a lot of such talkers, but in Russia, apparently, there is a demand for them ... Other goals are possible, except for receiving shekels from the mossad ....

boti.ru/blog/204

"Why would you find an ambitious Jewish writer with a national sense of humor (for personal purposes)"
Here. Will it fit? Only do not hit the glasses ....

pupyrchaty.livejournal.com/148562.html

[Cherdak]

Quote: Ptah

pupyrchaty

Thank you, but he is not real, he is from Moscow City, and he also draws.
Something looks like Give us, God, that they are no good.

[Ptah]

Quote: Cherdak

Thank you

Not at all .... In the sense of the need and usefulness of the links, there is a value that is a little less than no ** me.

Quote: Cherdak

he is from Moscow City, and he is also a painter.

Real ... From St. Petersburg. Probably, all the same in the column "home. Address" is the address of the nearest "sorrowful institution".
Yeah .... as an artist - also quite "held" -
some photo captions are worth ...

instagram.com/pupyrchaty

[Cherdak]

Quote: Ptah

some photo captions are worth ...

What was kindly shown to me evokes the pedagogy of a long-forgotten feeling of "bullying" and without any signatures.

[Pimply]

Quote: Ptah

There are a lot of such talkers, but in Russia, apparently, there is a demand for them ... Other goals are possible, except for receiving shekels from the mossad ....

Conspirology on the march 8)

[Aaron Zawi]

Well, it is clear that the Jews do not know how to fight. Although my boxing trainer Naum Abramovich Shparber claimed that in Ukraine before the war, every second in the ring was a Jew. Let's surf the Internet? Offhand:

In 1914, middleweight Al McCoy, whose real Jewish name is Alexander Rudolph (1894 – 1966), knocked out George Chip in the first round of the title fight and became the first left-handed champion in history. He held the title for three years. In 1915, the world welterweight champion was Ted "Kid" Lewis, whose real name was Gershon Mendeloff (1894 – 1970). Among his achievements, in addition to his twenty-year career and 283 fights (215 wins, 71 knockout) in six weight categories, there is the fact of the first ever use of protective gum for teeth - mouth guard (1913). The Oldgate Sphinx title (nickname for a district in London) was held until 1919. In 1916, Battling ("Drachun") Lewinsky from Philadelphia, real name Barney Lebrowicz (1891-XN ) A former boxing instructor in the U.S. Army during World War I, Battling held the title for four years and left an impressive track record in 1949 fights (287 wins) .In 192, the star (certainly six-pointed!) Of the greatest Jewish lightweight boxer of all time Benny Leonard, real name is Benjamin Leiner (1917 – 1896). His statistics are staggering: eight years of owning the title, leaving undefeated, in the first year - 1947 defenses (!), 14 fights, of which 213 wins (180 by knockout). Benny Leonard came from an orthodox New York family and never performed on Jewish holidays. According to one of the journalists, "Leonard has done more than thousands of books to destroy anti-Semitism." In the 70 year, Jack Bernstein (1923 – 1899) interrupted for seven months the championship of the famous Johnny Dundee in the first lightweight. In May of the same year in New York, he defeated the champion in points, but in the rematch (ibid., In December), he lost in points.
In the "bantamweight" (bantamweight) world champion in 1924 was Abe Goldstein (1898-1977), and in 1925 - Charlie Phil Rosenberg (1902-1976). Charlie is a rare, if not unique boxer who has never been knocked out in 65 fights of his professional career. In the same year, 1925, the era of two natives of Kiev came in featherweight: Louis "Kid" ("Kid") Kaplan (1901-1970) in New York in the 9th round, he defeated Danny Kramer - and won the champion title. Then he moved to lightweight and there he faced a problem: the best fighters in this category refused to meet with him. In 1933, Kaplan left the ring undefeated. In 1927, when Louis Kaplan left the title of king of featherweight, two other Jews entered into a dispute for him - Benny Bass, nicknamed "Little Fish" from Kiev, and Maurice Kaplan, who performed under the pseudonym Red Chapman. The winner in their amazing fight in Philadelphia was, to the great joy of his fellow countrymen, Benny Bass, who was born, however, in Kiev, and got to Philadelphia at the age of two. He fought in the professional ring from 1921 to 1940, had more than two hundred fights, won 172 victories, in 1927-1928 he was the world champion in featherweight, and in 1929-1931 - in the first lightweight. Of the 28 lost fights, he lost only twice, being knocked out: in battles against the legendary champions Kid Chocolite (in 1931, in the 7th round) and Henry Armstrong (in 1937, in the 4th round).

You can see it earlier, you can later. Surprise.

[Khrushchev]

you somehow forgot about max rem. certainly an outstanding boxer and at the same time rare as a person. Mike Tyson is just an angel compared to him. Also a Jew. Which, however, did not stop JJ Braddock from completing his full program in the match for the World Champion title.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Khrushchev

you somehow forgot about max rem. certainly an outstanding boxer and at the same time rare as a person. Mike Tyson is just an angel compared to him. Also a Jew. Which, however, did not stop JJ Braddock from completing his full program in the match for the World Champion title.

Yes, there were many of them unhappy bespectacled with a violinist, who did not know how to fight and in general the men were so-so.
PS As a result, everyone loses both Tyson and Holyfield and Klitschko. Those who managed to leave in time remain undefeated.

[Pimply]

Quote: Ptah

What he just was not. And a tanker, and artilleryman, and a flyer, and a sailor, and five days ago he became a nuclear physicist

Was not, was not, was not, was not, was not. You will find a similar statement, liar - write 8)

[Cherdak]

Quote: mirag2

Masha Hessen

do you want my death? It is a complete misunderstanding

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Cherdak

do you want my death? It is a complete misunderstanding

It is clear that Olga Kabo or Ksenia Rappaport will be more beautiful, but they are unlikely to look at you.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

but they’re unlikely to look at you

Bullshit so that I feel beautiful I only need a mirror and a bottle of vodka

And then according to the old scheme:

There is a loud knock on the ship to the captain’s cabin. The captain opens, a disheveled and rumpled barmaid flies into the cabin, and yells:
- Tree sticks! The boatswain, the infection, told me that, damn it, the storm begins!
- So what?
- Well, I, like a fool, gave myself to tie to the mast.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ptah

If I were told this, then I would breathe a sigh of relief ...

what to do, I'm already at that age when I like real women, and not the pictures from the cover.

[Cherdak]

We have other priorities!

[Kus Imak]

The question is, why are so few literate Russians?

[Cherdak]

Quote: Kus Imak

why are there so few literally spoken Russians?

So they are not Gussian!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Cherdak

Thank you, dear Professor, Aaron Zawi, atalef!
Reading your posts was an exceptional pleasure. Just like in the holy land visited
Still an ambitious Jewish writer to find with a national sense of humor (for personal purposes)

Not worth it. You are closer to Sweden.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You are closer to Sweden.

Thank. Appreciated

[Kus Imak]

Quote: Cherdak

Quote: Kus Imak

why are there so few literally spoken Russians?

So they are not Gussian!

Well, if I wrote this, I would be accused of Russophobia.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Kus Imak

Well, if I wrote this

In vain they minus you. You just got tired and fell asleep in the "humor feeling". Go to Ukrainian sites and take your heart out.
It has been experimentally established that all attempts at friendship, fraternity and dialogue with Ukraine end in the same way: "moskalyaku for nothing!"

[Cherdak]

Completing the topic

[ed65b]

The Jews, as always, pulled the beard of God onto themselves, aah (yawn), the people chopped off myself, all that the Jews did in the world, the rest are like dandruff under za.l.upnaya. literally EVERYTHING. By the way, I won’t be surprised that after so many years, Hitler will become a Jew. what really break spears. go to the branch 2-3 hours after publication and you will find out everything about everything. And the funniest thing is that they didn’t talk, but they changed their scribble.

[Kus Imak]

Go nuts
What are you funny