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North Korean army built on the principles of "Juche" and "Songun"

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North Korean army built on the principles of "Juche" and "Songun"

A soldier during a military parade dedicated to the 60 anniversary of the end of the Korean War in Pyongyang. Photo: Ilya Pitalev / RIA News



North Korean forces are fourth in the world; its only allies are Russia and Iran.

It is customary at the same time to scoff at North Korea for the specific features of its regime (and, most importantly, the propaganda of this regime) and present it as something like Mordor, about which nothing is known, but it is very scary. The DPRK, however, is not Mordor, but one of the countries of the world (the features of the regime are the problems of its citizens), and its army is one of the armies, which can be fully described.

Archaic but combat-ready

Despite the very weak economy and the almost complete international isolation of the DPRK, its armed forces (KPA - Korean Peoples Army) remain one of the largest and strongest in the world. The KPA is built under the slogan “Juche” (“self-reliance”) and “Songun” (“everything for the army”).

During the Cold War, North Korea received military assistance from the USSR and China. Now this assistance has completely stopped: on the part of Russia, because of Pyongyang’s low solvency, on the part of the PRC, because of its extreme dissatisfaction with the policy of the DPRK (although Beijing is officially listed as the main ally and patron of Pyongyang). Practically the only partner of the DPRK in the military sphere is Iran, with whom there is a constant exchange of military technologies.

Pyongyang continues to develop its nuclear missile program and support huge conventional forces. The country has a developed military-industrial complex, capable of producing almost all classes of military equipment: missiles, Tanks, Armored personnel carriers, artillery guns and MLRS, warships, boats and submarines, both on the basis of foreign projects, and their own samples. Only airplanes and helicopters have not been created in the DPRK, although their assembly from foreign components (if any) is possible.

Due to the extreme closeness of North Korea, information about its armed forces, especially about the number of vehicles, is approximate and estimated. Nevertheless, much is known about the Korean People’s Army.

The KPA missile forces include a significant number of ballistic missiles of various ranges. There are at least three battalions of Nodon-1 missiles (three PUs in each; range of flight - up to 1,3 thousands of kilometers), at least one regiment of missiles (28 of PUs, range of 300 kilometers), and also based on 17 missiles "Hwasong-5" (up to 180 PU; range - 330 kilometers) and "Hwaseong-6" (up to 100 PU; range - 500 kilometers), at least three KN-02 missile battalions based on the Russian missile "Tochka" "(4 PU in each; range - 70 kilometers), six battalions of old Luna-M missiles (4 PU; 70 kilometers). Medium-range missiles or even Tephodon intercontinental missiles are being developed.

It is doubtful that in the foreseeable future, the North Korean military-industrial complex will be able to create nuclear combat units (warheads) for its missiles - this is an extremely complex engineering task due to stringent requirements for the weight and dimensions of warheads and resistance to overloads.

Two echelon defense

The special operations forces of the KPA are at least fourth in the world in size (after the USA, China and Russia), and perhaps even the second after the US, their number is up to 90 thousand people. They are led by the North Korean Special Operations Forces, the Light Infantry Management Bureau and the General Staff Intelligence Directorate.


Soldiers during a military parade in Pyongyang. Photo: Ilya Pitalev / RIA News


CCOs include three components. Ground Forces Spetsnaz - nine light infantry brigades, six sniper brigades, 17 reconnaissance battalions, eight spetsnaz battalions. Airborne Forces - three "regular" and two sniper airborne brigades, a parachute battalion of special forces. Marine Special Forces - two naval sniper brigades (one each in the West and East fleets). The ground forces, numbering almost one million people, are divided into four strategic echelons.

The first echelon is located directly on the border with South Korea and consists of infantry and artillery formations and formations. If the first to start the DPRK war, the task of the first echelon is the breakthrough of the South Korean border fortifications. If South Korea and the United States strike the first blow, the task of the first echelon of the KPA is to prevent the enemy troops from advancing inland.

The first echelon includes four infantry corps (1, 2, 4, 5) and one artillery corps (620). In their composition 15 infantry divisions and 34 brigades - eight light infantry, four tank, 10 self-propelled artillery, nine rocket artillery and three reconnaissance-landing forces of the rivers.

The second echelon is located directly behind the first and consists of the most powerful tank and mechanized formations of the KPA ground forces. If the DPRK starts the first war, then the task of the second echelon is the development of the offensive in depth of the South Korean defense (including the seizure of Seoul) after its breakthrough by the forces of the first echelon. If South Korea and the United States are the first to start a war, the second echelon of the KPA must eliminate possible enemy breakthroughs through the location of the first echelon.

The second echelon includes 820 tank and two mechanized (806, 815) corps. They include armored divisions and 20 brigades - 11 mechanized, two light infantry, three tank, three self-propelled artillery, one rocket artillery.

The third echelon provides the defense of Pyongyang, is a reserve and training base for the first two echelons. It includes five infantry (3, 6, 7, 12, 91 of the capital) and one artillery corps. They include one motorized infantry and 15 infantry divisions (including eight training reserve) and 24 brigades - four motorized infantry, one light infantry, two tank, 10 artillery, seven rocket artillery.

The fourth echelon is located along the border of the DPRK with the PRC and Russia. It is, like the third, educational reserve, as well as the "echelon of the last hope." It includes two mechanized (108, 425) and four infantry (8, 9, 10, 11) corps. They include 10 infantry divisions (including 4 training and reserve) and 19 brigades - 10 mechanized, two light infantry, one tank, one artillery, two self-propelled artillery and three reactive artillery.

The zone of responsibility of the 9 Infantry Corps, which consists of six infantry divisions (including four training reserve ones) and a reactive artillery brigade, adjoins the Russian border.

Tanks and artillery - the basis of fire barrier

The KPA tank fleet includes 4-5 of thousands of main and at least 500 light tanks. The oldest are the Soviet T-55 (up to 1,6 thousands of machines) and their Chinese copies of the Tour 59 (up to 1 thousands). Not much newer Soviet T-62, of which there are from 800 to 1 thousands.

On their basis in the DPRK a family of Chonma tanks was created (a total of at least 1 thousands of units). The most modern North Korean tank is the “Songun-915”, better known in the West and in Russia under the name “Pokpun-ho”. It is also based on the T-62, but using the technologies of more modern Soviet tanks T-72 and T-80. Carries the 125-mm cannon, the KPVT 14,5-mm machine gun (the KPA in general is very fond of this very powerful machine gun), paired by the Balso-3 anti-tank missile system (a copy of the Soviet Kornet ATGM) and the Hva Son Chon anti-aircraft missile system (a copy of the “Needles -1 "), no other tank in the world has such a set of weapons. To date, the release of 200-300 tanks "Songun-915".


During the military exercises of the Air Force of the Korean People’s Army. Photo: EPA / ITAR-TASS


Light tanks - at least 460 Soviet PT-76, at least 100 own Shinhen PT-85 (amphibious tank with 85-mm cannon).

There are from 100 to 200 Soviet BMP-1 and more than three thousand BTR. The oldest are up to 1,5 thousands of Soviet BTR-40 and BTR-152. The Soviet BTR-60 (up to thousands of 1) and its own Type-73, based on the Chinese Tour 531 and better known as the VTT-323 (at least 500 machines), are not much newer. The most modern are the 32 Russian BTR-80A and up to 100 created on their basis in the DPRK Type-69 BTR.

The KPA is armed with up to 4,4 thousands of self-propelled guns, up to 3,5 thousands of towed guns, up to 7,5 thousands of mortars and about five thousand MLRS. Of particular note is the Juche-po M-1973 / 83 (170 mm) guns. They have a range of 40 — 60 kilometers and can fire at Seoul from the territory of the DPRK itself.

By the number of almost all classes of equipment, the KPA ground forces occupy at least 4-th place in the world. Such a huge amount of it largely compensates for its archaic nature. This applies particularly to artillery, the number of trunks of which the KPA is in second place in the world after the PLA. North Korean artillery is capable of creating a real “sea of ​​fire” in the frontal zone, but it is impossible to physically suppress such amount of artillery.

Aviation - auxiliary branch of the troops

DPRK air forces are armed with from 600 to 700 combat aircraft.

The strike of the KPA Air Force includes from the 40 to 80 the extremely obsolete Chinese H-5 bombers (a copy of the Soviet IL-28), from 18 to 30 almost the same old Soviet Su-7 attack aircraft, the new Su-34 attack aircraft with respect to the new Su-XNUMUM attack aircraft of the new Su-36 attack aircraft of the new Su-25 attack aircraft with respect to the new Su-40 attack aircraft of the new Su-5 attack aircraft of the new Su-XNUMX attack aircraft, with respect to the new Su-XNUMX attack aircraft of the new Su-XNUMX attack aircraft with respect to the new Su-XNUMX attack aircraft of the new Su-XNUMX attack aircraft of the new S-XNUMX, XNUMX, XNUMX "Intermediate" in age Chinese attack aircraft Q-XNUMX.

The fighters are 107 of extremely obsolete Chinese J-5 (copy of MiG-17), from 98 to 215 not much newer Chinese J-6 (copy of MiG-19), 25 — 0 of Soviet MiG-21bis (the newest version of the old MiG 21), up to 120 older MIG-21PFM and their Chinese copies J-7, 40 modernized Chinese J-7М, 30 training-combat MiG-21UM, 56 MIG-23 (46 ML, XNXXXXXXXXX modern MiG-10 (including up to 18 combat training MiG-40UB).

Transport aviation in the classic sense of the DPRK is not. Airline Air Koryo, which is part of the Air Force, incorporates 3 Il-76, 4 Il-62, 7 An-24, 11 Il-14, 2 Il-18, 2 Tu-134, 5 Tu-154 Il-2, 204 Tu-300, 2 Tu-5 Il-2, XNUMX Tu-XNUMX, XNUMX Tu-X-NUMX Il-XNUMX, XNUMX -XNUMX, they are intended for transportation of the manual and some important cargo. Prior to XNUMX, the Corners An-XNUMX and Y-XNUMX (a Chinese copy of the An-XNUMX) are used by the MTR to transfer special forces groups.

There are from 20 to 24 combat helicopters Mi-24D and about 300 transport and multipurpose helicopters. Among the latter, 87 American MD-500, which the DPRK was able to acquire at the end of 80-s through several intermediaries, should be noted. They are actively used in the interests of the SSO.

All ground air defense included in the Air Force. It consists of the 2 Regiment (6 divisions) C-200 XRS (36 PU), 41 C-75 X division division (246 PU), X-NUMX C-6 CP division (125 PU), not less than 24 RP-90 CPN division. at least 1 PU). KN-06 is a local version of the Soviet C-8PT / PS, or the Chinese HQ-06.

There are up to 6 thousands of MANPADS (4,5 thousands of Strela-2 and their Chinese copies HN-5, 1,5 thousands of Needle-1) and up to 11 thousands of ZSU and anti-aircraft guns.

Almost all the equipment of the KPA Air Force and Air Defense is extremely outdated, even the Su-25, MiG-29 and KN-06 can be considered new only very relatively. To a certain extent, this is compensated for by their large number, but in this case the quantity factor is of much less importance than for the ground forces. However, the actions of aviation of any enemy over the DPRK at low altitudes will be extremely difficult due to mountainous terrain and a huge number of MANPADS and anti-aircraft guns in North Korean air defense. Old aircraft may well be used as kamikazes, including those with nuclear weapons.

Fleet takes a number

The naval forces of the DPRK are divided into Western and Eastern fleets. For geopolitical reasons, the exchange of ships between fleets is impossible even in peacetime, so each fleet relies on its shipbuilding base.

In terms of the number of combat units, the DPRK Navy may be the largest in the world, but almost all of these units are extremely primitive. In particular, the North Korean ships and boats do not have air defense systems at all. However, for actions in the coastal waters of the North Korean Navy have very significant potential. Their strongest side is the presence of a large number of small submarines capable of planting special forces groups on the enemy’s coast and acting against enemy ships in shallow water. During regular skirmishes between North Korean and South Korean combat boats, advantage, as a rule, is on the side of the former.

The basis of the submarine fleet consists of old submarines 22 Ave 633 / 033 (Soviet, Chinese and its own construction). It is possible that up to four quite old Soviet submarines of the 613 Ave are preserved. There are 30 — 40 small submarines Sang-O (built according to their own design), 20 ultra-small submarines “Yugo” (Yugoslav project; 10 is still in reserve) and up to 10 “Yono” (Iranian “Gadir” project).


During the military exercises of the Navy of the Korean People’s Army. Photo: EPA / ITAR-TASS


There are at least three patrol ships (frigates) in service, up to 25 corvettes, 34 missile boats (8 of old Soviet Ave 205, 4 of their Chinese analog of Ave 021, 10 of their local analogue of Soju type, six very old Soviet ave. Of 183P, six of their local counterparts like "Sohung").

The DPRK naval forces are practically the only fleet in the world that continues to operate torpedo boats on a large scale (mostly of its own projects). In total there are more than 150, including 100 - on hydrofoils. Patrol boats are about 200 units.

Landing ships and boats are focused on carrying out operations only within the Korean Peninsula itself, so they are small, but there are a lot of them - around 200 “ordinary” ships and boats and 140 airborne assault boats.

Coastal defense covers the entire coast of the DPRK. Includes a significant number of Chinese SCRK HY-1 and HY-2, the Soviet SCRC "Sopka", tools CM-4-1, M-1992, M-46, ML-20.

Binding of two Koreas is necessary only for Russia

In general, the noticeable technical backwardness of the KPA is largely compensated by a huge amount of weapons, equipment and personnel, a good level of combat training and fanaticism of military personnel. In addition, the KPA is very well adapted to operations in the conditions of the mountainous terrain, which occupies most of the Korean Peninsula (in particular, very many objects of the KPA and the DPRK military industrial complex are deep underground). This makes it the most dangerous opponent, even for the three strongest armies in the world (American, Chinese, Russian) and completely invincible for all the rest.

Therefore, it is completely absurd to talk about how the United States, if they want it, will easily and quickly crush the DPRK. Of course, they can do it, but only when they are bleeding literally in their ears, no high-precision weapon will be a panacea in this case. Americans do not need such “happiness” at all.

However, it is hardly correct to regard the DPRK as a threat to Russia. It’s not even the fact that the length of the Russian-North Korean border is only four kilometers, it’s extremely difficult to “push through” to any significant military groupings (which, however, simply do not exist on this border). The fact is that for Pyongyang, aggression against Russia is absolutely meaningless, because it will not bring "no good but harm."

The North Korean regime is by no means irrational. He is very concerned about his self-preservation.

In the past few years, he has been carefully courting Russia, hoping to find in it a counterweight to China’s increasingly strangling arms. Objectively, only Russia is interested in the peaceful unification of the two Koreas, which, in fact, Pyongyang wants most of all. And only Moscow can objectively become an “honest broker” in this matter.

The unification of the Koreas is completely unnecessary for Washington, Beijing and Tokyo; they are satisfied with the current situation of their tough confrontation. Alas, Moscow is not trying to act in its own interests, but obediently swims in the wake of Beijing, whose goal is to disarm the DPRK and transform it into its full puppet (now it is by no means such).
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  1. makarov
    makarov 21 January 2014 08: 47
    +12
    Despite their material poverty and poverty, persistent and courageous warriors in North Korea !!!
    1. Civil
      Civil 21 January 2014 09: 23
      +3
      The aircraft are frankly weak, worse than Saddam had, and tank forces are worse than Iraqi, this is a hint.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 21 January 2014 09: 45
        +6
        they don’t need strong aviation, because under no circumstances does it outperform the American, which means it won’t be able to fight anyway, so why spend money
        they logically rely on powerful artillery and air defense and, most importantly, on a huge number of special forces
      2. Poppy
        Poppy 21 January 2014 09: 46
        +6
        and there is no need to compare them with Iraq, for a long time everyone knew that "the Arabs are not warriors", they themselves collapsed, did not even fight properly
        1. operrus
          operrus 21 January 2014 12: 16
          +5
          Probably the rule will be to say that they didn’t fall apart, but sold themselves profitably and sold their leader, traders x ... and now they live in a mess and blood.
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      3. Dmitry Zurn
        Dmitry Zurn 21 January 2014 11: 01
        +13
        They have different people. This is more important than tanks and aircraft.
      4. Dmitry Zurn
        Dmitry Zurn 21 January 2014 11: 01
        0
        They have different people. This is more important than tanks and aircraft.
        1. Walking
          Walking 21 January 2014 11: 42
          +2
          Koreans are good soldiers.
      5. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 21 January 2014 11: 55
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        tank forces worse than Iraqi

        the main thing is that the partisan would be combat-ready laughing
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      7. Babon
        Babon 21 January 2014 12: 35
        +3
        On the Korean peninsula, the terrain is very different from Iraq, a lot of tanks are not needed there.
    2. Cherdak
      Cherdak 21 January 2014 14: 41
      +6
      Quote: makarov
      in North Korea, persistent and courageous warriors !!!



      I hope so. But it would be better not to hear from the mouth **** Alexander Khramchikhin, who never served in the army.
      And his pearl: "... we can invite NATO troops 'peacefully' and voluntarily. Because the Chinese occupation will be the alternative." still awakens my instincts
    3. Vittt
      Vittt 21 January 2014 19: 38
      +1
      Listen, enough of a star. Neither you nor I know anything about this.
      What kind of warriors they are there is a mystery, shrouded in darkness of unknown. Also me, robocops. Zhirik also thought that Iraq would last a long time.
  2. major071
    major071 21 January 2014 08: 56
    +6
    Good competent article. I learned a lot for myself, especially regarding the DPRK aviation. To the author plus. hi
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 21 January 2014 12: 39
      +4
      The author is definitely a plus! The topic is interesting! Do you know how they lick tourists from Russia? You can also relax with a girl (though a Chinese woman). They feed "from the belly." Go, you have no regrets, I say to those who are older.
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      2. matross
        matross 21 January 2014 21: 34
        +1
        Quote: Den 11
        Do you know how they lick tourists from Russia?

        Yeah? Is there tourism there? Safe? Interesting. And what about the hotels? And the prices?
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 21 January 2014 22: 21
          +2
          Yes old man, there is. Perfectly safe! Hotels are super (I recommend Koryo). Prices are a little expensive (my wife and I went --- 3,500 Baku for 2 weeks, though this is 2008, maybe that has changed). Tours are for sale with a bang. there is something to see. For 10 days (to be exact)
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 21 January 2014 09: 07
    +5
    Worn shoes in the photo of the Korean military - they certainly stumble US fur seals.
    Moreover, the combat version of TEKVONDO is very impressive.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 21 January 2014 09: 46
      +2
      somehow savvy not the same, it's weird
      1. avg
        avg 21 January 2014 11: 54
        +3
        These are temporary horseshoes so that the parade has a clear and loud sound of setting the legs. Some have already fallen off of their efforts.
      2. atalef
        atalef 21 January 2014 13: 30
        -1
        Quote: Poppy
        somehow savvy not the same, it's weird

        It depends on who these shoes were inherited from.
        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 21 January 2014 13: 36
          +8
          comedian: /, they provide the army in the first place, they only have meat in the army, they don’t give out to the population, they say the people there are starving to live, but soldiers are taught to kill the enemy with their bare hands. However, recent clashes have shown how southerners and states are afraid to get involved in a war in the north that they are just waiting for an occasion to occupy the entire south ... They drowned the corvette, killed the soldiers, fired on the territory, and in response to silence ...

          I would look at Israel if the Syrian army made a massive shelling of one of the cities of the promised land, in response they would have rolled up ...
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          2. atalef
            atalef 21 January 2014 14: 45
            -2
            Quote: T80UM1
            comedian: /, they provide the army in the first place, they only have meat in the army, they don’t give out to the population, they say people live there starving, but soldiers are taught to kill the enemy with their bare hands

            Respect them for it. laughing And hedgehogs are crushed by the bare ass
            Quote: T80UM1
            However, recent clashes have shown how much the southerners and states are afraid to get involved in a war which in the north is only waiting as a pretext for occupying the entire south ...

            Saddam also threatened to smash everyone and his valiant troops simply belted Saddam at the parades vomiting --- what ended up being known.
            Quote: T80UM1
            They drowned the corvette, killed the soldiers, fired on the territory, and in response to silence ...

            Well ?
            Quote: T80UM1
            I would look at Israel if the Syrian army made a massive shelling of one of the cities of the promised land, in response they would have rolled up ...

            Of course. Only Southerners, I think, isn’t like a fool, the war with S. Korea is the result of joining the South. (Since I think it's silly to talk about the North’s victory) - West Germany is still integrating East 100% can not. What to say about North? Which is many times poorer.
            I think they don’t need this. S. Korea will someday be bent by herself. Wait and see.
            1. T80UM1
              T80UM1 21 January 2014 14: 57
              +4
              North Korea will not bend, they have a Stalin regime there

              "Well ?"
              Southerners silently swallowed the deaths of military personnel and the sinking of the ship, in the Far East it is a sign of weakness ...
              "Kudos to them for that. And they also crush the bare ass of hedgehogs."
              underestimating the enemy does not lead to good
              "West Germany still integrate East 100%"
              But the northern southern one will digest, dear deed, give only an excuse ...
              1. alone
                alone 21 January 2014 19: 36
                +5
                Quote: T80UM1
                North Korea will not bend, they have a Stalin regime there


                You can’t fat-boiled Kim Jong-un compare Stalin. Even Kim Il Sung is a schoolboy in front of Stalin.
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 22 January 2014 05: 37
                0
                underestimating the enemy does not lead to good


                Wait a minute, they say that North Koreans are already in Syria, like the Cubans. They will get used to the future theater of operations and create an "axis of evil" there. And under the Syrian flags, finally, they will solve the problem of the Middle East.
            2. velikoros-xnumx
              velikoros-xnumx 21 January 2014 16: 13
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              (since I think it’s silly to say about the victory of the North)

              I would not be so categorical. In the land war between Korea, the north really has more chances.
              1. atalef
                atalef 21 January 2014 16: 26
                +1
                Quote: velikoros-xnumx
                Quote: atalef
                (since I think it’s silly to say about the victory of the North)

                I would not be so categorical. In the land war between Korea, the north really has more chances.

                What does DRY mean. War, however, is divided into land --- or air. War is a complex and in this complex there is definitely an advantage on the side of the South, do not forget that the States will subscribe unequivocally, and who will go to fight for Korea?
                This and that, in a complex it is necessary to look
                1. velikoros-xnumx
                  velikoros-xnumx 21 January 2014 19: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  What does DRY mean. War, however, is divided into land --- or air. War is a complex

                  Alexander You say obvious things. Having written the land, I had in mind a little different and maybe a little clumsy - given the overall divided territory of its relatively small size and the operational range of modern weapons, military operations will take place simultaneously throughout the territory of both Koreas. We are not talking about any high-precision precision hits, we are talking about a bloody meat grinder, in which, in my opinion, the DPRK will repeat the chances of an order of magnitude more.
                  Quote: atalef
                  do not forget that the States will definitely sign

                  I doubt it the most

                  Quote: atalef
                  and who will go to war for Korea?

                  With a high degree of probability, the hegemony of the United States and its ally, South Korea, they do not need at all, plus a small but personal territorial interest in the dispute with South Korea.
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 21 January 2014 19: 27
                    +2
                    Absolutely with you, Mikhail, I agree! Atalef is certainly not a stupid person, but he doesn’t want to see obvious things (is he afraid?). It’s not a matter of drones (presence or absence), but of a fighting mood. The North are just eager to get even and unite the country !!!
                2. alicante11
                  alicante11 22 January 2014 05: 40
                  0
                  Yeah, fools they subscribe. To China signed up for northerners? And who will make new ipads for you? It's just that the Chinese do not need this either. You need to sell iPads, only one iPhone will not stretch the entire Chinese electronic industry. So they keep the kims in check.
              2. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 21 January 2014 16: 52
                0
                Excuse me. Do you seriously believe that the North Koreans armed with this ...

                Really can defeat South Korea, even now without the United States, which now has complete superiority in air and sea? Forgive it is unrealistic to inflict the maximum possible losses during a defensive war and during the first strike. Compare yourself.
                The flagship of the North Korean fleet, the patrol ship "Najin", two of them were built: in 1973 and 1975, one is supposedly already scrapped. Full displacement-1500 tons, armed with 2 anti-ship missiles P-15 of the 60s, 2x1 100-mm AU B-34, 2x2 57-mm AU, 2x2 30-mm AU AK-230, 6x2 25-mm AU 2M-3M , 2 bombs, 30 min.

                The South Korean destroyer "King Sejong the Great", built 2008-2012, all built 3. King Sejong-class destroyers are an analogue of the US Arly Burke-class URO destroyers. Total displacement 10 290 tons. Armament: 2 UVP Mk-41 VLS on 48 and 32 cells, respectively (up to 32 KR Hyunmoo III)
                1. Nagaibak
                  Nagaibak 21 January 2014 17: 18
                  +5
                  1977 novel "Sorry, you seriously believe that the North Koreans armed with this ..."
                  So this is the Red Guard or whatever ... The militia is shorter ... This is not the DPRK regular army ... should not be confused. This has already been said on the site more than once.
                  And on these ships you won’t go by land ... and you won’t jump in the mountains ...
                  1. Roman 1977
                    Roman 1977 21 January 2014 17: 34
                    +2
                    Dear Andrey, I know perfectly well that this is the RKKG, and the KNA is armed with the 88 type (AK-74) and the 98 type (AKS-74), some even with GP-25, by the way the DPRK is the third country in the world, except Russia and Yemen, officially adopted the caliber 5,45 mm, and type 68 (AKM), as well as a machine gun of its own production type 73.


                    I posted 13 posts below with photographs of the main weapons of the DPRK army, not counting the air defense, air force and navy, sorry, you also seriously think that this technique of the 60s-70s, at best 80s, will be able to withstand the army of the South Korea. The same southerners are well aware that, having reunited with the DPRK, they receive 28 million mouths and a poor country in which a lot of money needs to be invested, much more than the FRG in the GDR in order to at least equalize the living standards, and besides, the average South Korean, does not want to postpone his AIPAD, from which Mister PSI sounds, take an automatic rifle and go north to unite with incomprehensible "brothers" who can kill him (and many will do it with pleasure), and then pay money for their maintenance. ..

            3. nerd.su
              nerd.su 22 January 2014 00: 16
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Saddam also threatened to smash everyone and his valiant troops simply belted Saddam at the parades vomiting --- what ended up being known.

              You do not confuse Koreans with Arabs.

              Quote: atalef
              the war with S. Korea is the result of joining it to the South. (because I think it's silly to talk about the victory of the North)

              Why is this stupid? If Korea clashed without the participation of third forces, then the Juche idea would very quickly become fundamental for the southerners. This West Germany cannot digest eastern, because inequality and betrayal are the basis of unification. North Korea will quickly digest South, it will only belch out a bit full a couple of times.
          3. Cherdak
            Cherdak 21 January 2014 21: 11
            0
            Quote: T80UM1
            they only have meat in the army, they don’t give out to the population,



            Need to share experience!
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  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 21 January 2014 09: 14
    +8
    And that, ideology is a very powerful weapon, so the powerful people of this world do not rock the DPRK especially soldier
  5. predator.3
    predator.3 21 January 2014 09: 17
    +18
    In the Korean army, I like these troops more! love
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 21 January 2014 09: 34
      +4
      Quote: predator.3
      In the Korean army, I like these troops more! love


      The "uniforms" of the marching ladies are not to my taste, but everything is as if on selection, small, plump laughing
      1. Cherdak
        Cherdak 21 January 2014 16: 55
        +3
        Ours are cooler!
    2. Volkhov
      Volkhov 21 January 2014 09: 34
      -3
      The Korean army will drive the peasants for Cupid, and the remaining women will be commanded by these Koreans - they will build no worse.
      This is not Thailand for you. There is a prophecy of a certain Slavik - it is precisely male genocide in the occupied territories that is described, only he calls the invaders Chinese, perhaps he did not distinguish by infancy.
      1. SergBrNord
        SergBrNord 21 January 2014 13: 10
        +2
        Quote: Volkhov
        prophecy of a certain Slavik

        A myth created to enrich the relatives of the alleged prophet. The old scheme. You can look at YouTube "prophets" from pedostan - the same thing.
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 21 January 2014 10: 54
      +8
      Quote: predator.3
      I like these troops more

      ... At 1,4, and 7 toes above and lace can be seen smile also find themselves wearing fellow
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 21 January 2014 11: 04
        +3
        Quote: smersh70
        Quote: predator.3
        I like these troops more

        ... At 1,4, and 7 toes above and lace can be seen smile also find themselves wearing fellow


        For Korean men, it is generally an intriguing sight, where else you will see this, they think - "I wish they would lift their legs even higher during the march!"
        1. avg
          avg 21 January 2014 12: 01
          +9
          Quote: RUSS
          - "I wish they would lift their legs even higher during the march!"

          No matter how they bullied them, they will give them only by decision of the party committee. love
          1. alone
            alone 21 January 2014 19: 41
            +2
            Quote: avg
            No matter how they bullied them, they will give them only by decision of the party committee.

            laughing Mdya it will be necessary to establish friendship with the party committee)))
        2. operrus
          operrus 21 January 2014 12: 23
          +5
          If above it is either a striptease or a cabaret. And so everything is cultural but nice to watch.
          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 21 January 2014 21: 02
            +1
            Quote: operrus
            And so everything is cultural but nice to watch.



            The teacher, checking the children's essays on the topic "Life according to the Juche and the Songun precepts, set 18+, 16 + ...
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        4. Roman 1977
          Roman 1977 21 January 2014 18: 15
          +5
          Well, Maxim, there is cooler ...
          , and some irresponsible young women in the service even wear heels, where only Kim Jong-un looks ...

          and Pyongyang regulators:


    4. atalef
      atalef 21 January 2014 13: 33
      0
      Quote: predator.3
      In the Korean army, I like these troops more! love

      in general it is only beautiful in the picture. The average height of a S. Korean girl is 154 cm (8-10) cm lower than that of S. Korea. affects poor nutrition in childhood.
      In general, the bulk are ugly and clumsy.
      Although maybe someone likes it.
      1. gorsten79
        gorsten79 17 February 2014 00: 54
        0
        The same average height seems to be among the Japanese conscripts in 1945 ... And it seems to Madonna.
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    6. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 January 2014 21: 44
      0
      Once in the VO there was a comment that the girls were pacing at the parade, already the cowards sparkled. True, I have not seen. But it will be nice to the world community (I don’t count and don’t consider gays for people).
  6. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 21 January 2014 09: 35
    +19
    In the early 80s, when I studied at a military school, I fell ill with chickenpox (chickenpox), a childhood disease that I did not get sick in childhood and overtook me as an adult. They put me in a hospital, an infectious ward, in boxing, and there already lay a foreign listener - a Korean DPRK. We learned a lot from the socialist camp — an entire faculty.
    There were two of us in this box - the infectious chicken pox and I had a chance to talk closely with Kim (like his name was), he had already finished some school at home and the Soviet school was for him, sort of like an academy.
    Every morning, Kim began with the political information he spent with me, talking about the DPRK revolutionary party, Kim Il Sung's biography, Juche's ideas, and the great war with American imperialism. Of course, I began to bother, but I, brought up in the spirit of internationalism, patiently listened and nodded. Finally, after a few days, Kim said with an important look that he had a very valuable present for me, he ordered me to stand up and solemnly handed me ... an icon depicting Kim Il Sung. For the simplicity of my soul, I took the badge ... and casually threw it into the nightstand. Kim flew up to my nightstand, grabbed a badge and began to shake it in front of my face and babble something in Korean. It dawned on me: Kim believed that I had become a true Jucheist, a faithful Kimirsen, and I turned out to be a vile revisionist, casually throwing a badge. All day Kim did not talk to me, I felt uncomfortable and thought how to make peace with him, in the evening I came up with. In the evening, I began to tell Kim about my girlfriend what her awesome legs, i.e. eyes (girls read the site), how I would stroke those eyes from morning till night, well, something else about girls, and then I asked Kim if he had his own Korean squaw and what it was. Kim was silent, and then told about his Korean girlfriend what a beautiful ass she was, i.e. his eyes, of course, as if he had pressed against her and had never come off. In general, contact was restored, even without vodka. Kim told me about his country that they carry out political information from the kindergarten and he is so used to living poorly, and he was most struck by the Soviet Union - these are big fat women and men with huge stomachs, he never saw such people in the DPRK . We even talked about the national Korean cuisine and he is indignant that the Chinese eat not only dogs, but also cats, rats, bugs and worms, but no one reproaches them. In general, Kim turned out to be a normal Korean guy of his difficult homeland. After discharge, I came across Kim several times, he greeted me only with his eyes, but he never gave me the badge anymore.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 21 January 2014 13: 44
      +2
      Funny. Thank you. Plus. Icon saved? Do you want to buy it. If something through a personal
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      2. atalef
        atalef 21 January 2014 13: 58
        +3
        Quote: Den 11
        Is the badge preserved? Have a desire to buy it from you

        Denis is much easier, write to the magazine (I will give you a link) in Russian. Say that you are imbued with Juche's ideas and don’t imagine your existence without the Kimami badge. - send a box. By the way, an article from this magazine - this is how they contain office plankton


        Friday of physical labor filled the day for office workers full of meaning

        Employees of ministries and national institutes worked the first Friday of physical labor this January 10th.
        They prepared 2300 tons of high-quality manure and many agricultural materials in a short period of time. Employees of the Presidium of the Supreme People’s Assembly, the Ministry of Metallurgy, the Ministry of Coal Industry, the Ministry of Agriculture and Nature Conservation and other ministries worked at the Wallo vegetable farm in the Mangende district with truckloads of manure and spent a full day preparing for the agricultural season this year.
        Employees of the Gosplan, the ministry of railway transport, the ministry of land and air transport, the ministry of fish farming and other ministries fertilized manure fields of the Richen vegetable cooperative in the Sadon area. Employees of the Government Secretariat, the Ministry of Electricity, the Ministry of Commerce, the Ministry of Public Health and other ministries worked Friday at a vegetable cooperative in Rüchen in the Reckpo district.
        Similar Fridays of physical labor for mental workers are held in the DPRK regularly, almost every week.


        http://juche-songun.livejournal.com/
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 21 January 2014 14: 09
          +2
          Great Sanya. Igor gave a link? I "graze" there myself. Songunych himself asked, begged, begged, etc. sell me this badge --- fucking! "This is our ideological ..."
          1. Anatole Klim
            Anatole Klim 21 January 2014 14: 20
            +2
            Quote: Den 11
            "This is our ideological ..."

            You are right Denis! I can’t even imagine what would have happened to me if I had done this in North Korea, and so I took the badge away and don’t give it anymore!
        2. DMB-78
          DMB-78 21 January 2014 21: 03
          0
          and you can’t make snow near our own office laughing
        3. nerd.su
          nerd.su 22 January 2014 00: 30
          0
          Quote: atalef
          By the way, an article from this magazine - this is how they contain office plankton


          Friday of physical labor filled the day for office workers full of meaning


          By bus we get to Skhodny,
          And there - at a trot, and do not moan!
          I suppose we all respect potatoes,
          When with salt to mash her!
  7. Saburo
    Saburo 21 January 2014 09: 41
    +4
    An interesting review. For example, North Korea learned something new about the Navy.

    But the unification of Korea is still fantastic. The economic, cultural, technological, and of course the ideological gap between the two states is so huge that it is impossible to bridge it in the foreseeable way in any way.
  8. ab_hybac
    ab_hybac 21 January 2014 10: 21
    +16
    DPRK Army?laughing laughing laughing ......
  9. ab_hybac
    ab_hybac 21 January 2014 10: 23
    +11
    DPRK Army? laughing laughing laughing ......
  10. ab_hybac
    ab_hybac 21 January 2014 10: 35
    +17
    DPRK Army? laughing laughing laughing ......
    1. alone
      alone 21 January 2014 19: 45
      0
      Obama turns out to be a little rascal, but Eun is an innocent simpleton)) wassat
  11. TRex
    TRex 21 January 2014 11: 33
    +7
    [i] Alas, Moscow is not trying to act in its own interests, but is obediently sailing in the wake of Beijing [/ i]

    The author is trying to say that he really knows what interests Russia should have in Korea, but there are dumbasses in the Kremlin who don’t know this.
    Well, that's just interesting - which ones? To feed all this horde armed to the teeth?
    I am sincerely sorry for the North Korean people, who, with the last effort, are lucky on their hump, hell knows that ... And how this story ends is also unclear.
    And about the article: I gathered information from dubious sources, put noodles on our ears ("possibly", maybe "," presumably ") - and dumped it on the Internet. Khramchikhin is another" analyzer ".
    1. avg
      avg 21 January 2014 12: 11
      +7
      Quote: TRex
      Khramchikhin is another "analyzer".

      Second after Felgenhauer. laughing
      1. TRex
        TRex 21 January 2014 12: 54
        +2
        That one - that another: digging in the nose - and analyzing, reviewing, sharing their observations with others ... The main thing is that one biologist is retired, the second is a hell of a hillock, who has not served a day in the army and gets "information" from the media - but they are printed, referred to, invited to the radio ... There is no necessary article in the Criminal Code, otherwise both of them would steam on bunks and tell fairy tales there ... Pique vests.
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 21 January 2014 21: 16
          +2
          Quote: TRex
          Pique vests.


          and besides, both ideological, damn it
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 21 January 2014 21: 54
        0
        Quote: avg
        Second after Felgenhauer

        It is you who offend Venediktov hard. Although he has renegades with Russian surnames in Echo of Moscow. Minority, but present.
  12. vomag
    vomag 21 January 2014 11: 41
    +1
    North Korean artillery is capable of creating a real "sea of ​​fire" in the frontline zone, but it is physically impossible to suppress such a quantity of artillery. Here I smiled at the lope of trunks on 1 kilometer of the front?
  13. Day 11
    Day 11 21 January 2014 12: 25
    +2
    South Korea (with all its technologies) will not stand up against North Korea! Having to call for the Yankees to help, although they are there --- this is already a challenge to China. Everything is very complicated there.
  14. Day 11
    Day 11 21 January 2014 12: 28
    +3
    No, there are no options ... Ordinary border guards
  15. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 21 January 2014 12: 43
    +3
    So, let's start the tanks that are in service with the KPA
    T-34-76 model 1942 (tower "pie")

    T-34-76 model 1943 (turret "nut")

    T-34-85
    T-55, modernized by the North Koreans, with the installation of additional armor and KPVT as an anti-aircraft machine gun

    type 62 Chinese with 85-mm gun,
    T-62 Soviet with 115 mm gun
    type 59, modernized by the North Koreans with the installation of Igla-1 MANPADS
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 21 January 2014 12: 55
      +2
      PT-76

      type 63 Chinese clone PT-76 with 85-mm gun, according to some reports, withdrawn from service.
      M-1985, amphibious tank of North Korean production with an 85-mm cannon and an additionally installed "Baby" (produced in the DPRK under license)

      More or less modern tanks:
      Chongmakho-1 is a copy of the Soviet T-62, issued since 1976, a total of about 1000 units, 150 units in 1982-1985 were issued. delivered to Iran; MANPADS installed on some tanks

      "Chhonmaho-2", a copy of the Soviet T-62 with an installed laser rangefinder.

      "Chonmaho-3/4", produced since 1992, is made on the type of the Soviet T-72, early modifications, quite possibly the captured T-72M, received from Iran with a 125-mm gun.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 21 January 2014 13: 09
        +3
        "Chongmaho-4/5", additional hinged armor was installed, similar to the "Ilyich's eyebrows" on the T-62M.
        "Cheonmaho-5", produced since 1998
        "Cheonma-214", produced since 2001

        "Cheonma-215", aka "Pokpungho-1", produced since 2003

        "Chongma-216", aka "modernized Pokpungho", has been produced since 2004, additionally armed with MANPADS and ATGMs, similar to the "Competition", produced in the DPRK under license

        "Songun-915", produced since 2009, the most modern tank of the DPRK, installed DZ, like the Polish ERA, MANPADS and ATGMs of the Russian "Kornet" type.

        1. Roman 1977
          Roman 1977 21 January 2014 13: 36
          +2
          Armored vehicles:
          BMP-1, 200 units delivered to the USSR at the end of the 1970-s, were in service with the most elite 105-th Guards Seoul Panzer Division. The status is currently unknown:
          BTR-80A-32 units were delivered from Russia in the 90s, on their basis the North Koreans created their own M-2010 "short" armored personnel carriers with a 6x6 wheel arrangement, used for reconnaissance and M-2010 "long" with an 8x8 wheel arrangement. The armored personnel carriers are armed with a pair of KPVTs installed in the tower.



          VTT-323, a copy of the Chinese armored personnel carrier K-63, delivered to the DPRK at the end of the 60-70-s, as a weapon, a tower with two KPVT was installed, MANPADS are used as additional weapons

          BTR M-2010 tracked, on the caterpillar chassis of a floating tank M-1985, armed with a turret with two KPVT, MANPADS are used as additional weapons
          1. Roman 1977
            Roman 1977 21 January 2014 13: 53
            +2
            Most of the photos are clickable, all are collected from different sources, unless I continue to object:
            Wheel BTR:
            BTR-60PB-about 1000 delivered from the USSR in 70-80-s

            BTR-40 and BTR-40РХ

            M-1992, a light reconnaissance vehicle produced by the DPRK, armed with a Konkurs ATGM and an AGS-17 Flame easel grenade launcher, presumably produced in the DPRK under license. Also, on the basis of the M-1992, a light MLRS was created, armed with a 107-mm copy of the Chinese "Type 63"

            There is information about the delivery of BTR-152 and BTR-50 to the DPRK, but I don’t have photos of them, if I have anyone I’ll be very grateful ... There is also information about an attempt by the North Koreans to create their own car based on the BTR-60, called "type 69 ", one copy is even exhibited in the Pyongyang Museum.
            The BTR-60PU-12 and a proprietary vehicle based on the BTR VTT-323 are used as command vehicles

            1. Roman 1977
              Roman 1977 21 January 2014 14: 16
              +2
              120-mm SAO M-1978, first demonstrated at the parade in 1992, presumably made in the likeness of 2S9 "Nona-S"

              85-mm anti-tank installation based on the D-44, openly installed on the basis of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean built.

              another allegedly 103-mm self-propelled anti-tank vehicle, also openly installed on the basis of the VTT-323 tracked armored personnel carrier, a North Korean built.

              100-mm supposedly MT-12, mounted in a circular rotation tower.

              self-propelled anti-tank missile system "Baby", also based on the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean construction.
              1. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 21 January 2014 14: 40
                +2
                North Korean artillery, start with towed:
                76-mm ZIS-3 or its Chinese copy "type 54", part of it was transferred to the RKKG, however, quite a few, along with the 57-mm anti-tank defense system ZiS-2, are in service with personnel units located on the North Korean-Chinese and North Korean-Russian borders

                85-mm D-44, and its Chinese counterpart "Type 56", is in service with anti-tank units
                100-mm BS-3 (no photos)
                122-mm BG M-30 and its Chinese copy type 54, part transferred to the RCCH
                122-mm BG D-30, part mounted on a self-propelled chassis, based on the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean built.

                122-mm towed gun D-74 and its Chinese clone D-74

                The 130-mm towed gun M-46 and its Chinese clones, type 59 and type 59-1, participated in an artillery duel with the South Koreans in the area of ​​Yephando Island, where they fired at modern South Korean self-propelled howitzers K-9.

                130-mm gun coastal defense SM-4-1, is in service with the coastal defense forces of the Navy
                1. Roman 1977
                  Roman 1977 21 January 2014 14: 53
                  +1
                  152-mm BG D-1 of the 1943 model of the year

                  152-mm towed howitzer ML-20, model 1937 of the year

                  152-mm towed-gun howitzer D-20 of the 1954 model of the year and its Chinese clone type 66
                  152-mm towed-gun howitzer North Korean development based on the D-20

                  152-mm anti-tank gun based on the D-20.

                  Mortars:
                  120-mm sample of 1938 of the year

                  120-mm sample of 1943 of the year

                  160-mm sample of 1943 of the year
                  1. Roman 1977
                    Roman 1977 21 January 2014 15: 05
                    +1
                    North Korean self-propelled artillery:
                    122-mm M-1977, based on the D-30, openly mounted on the chassis of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean built, MANPADS are installed on the part.

                    122-mm "Tokchon", based on the D-74, openly installed on the chassis of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean construction, on some of them are installed MANPADS.

                    122 mm "Chuchepo", 122 mm D-74, installed, in a rotating turret, closed at the top

                    130-mm M-1992 "Tokchon-1", based on the SM-4-1, openly mounted on the chassis of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean construction, some of them are equipped with MANPADS.

                    152-mm "Tokchon" on the basis of D-20, openly mounted on the chassis of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, North Korean construction, on the part there are MANPADS.
                    1. Roman 1977
                      Roman 1977 21 January 2014 15: 27
                      +1
                      The 130-mm Tokchon self-propelled cannon "was created on the basis of the Soviet ATC-59 tractor and the 130-mm M-46 cannon or its Chinese clone type 59. The Ethiopian armies were supplied, participated in the Ethiopian-Eritrean war of 1998-2000.

                      152-mm "Tokchon" M-1974, based on the D-20, openly mounted on the chassis of the VTT-323 tracked armored personnel carrier, North Korean construction

                      170-mm M-1978 "Koksan", 30 guns supplied to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. The guns were successfully used against Iraqi positions and batteries located deep in the rear. Iran currently has 10 guns left.

                      170-mm M-1989 "Koksan", made on the basis of the Soviet 2S7 "Pion". M1978 and M1989 are deployed in batteries of 36 vehicles, mainly along the Korean demilitarized zone. The guns are usually hidden in well-camouflaged concrete structures.

                      180-mm "Koksan". self-propelled guns were supplied to Iraq to counter the 170-mm M1978 "Koksan" supplied to Iran. several units were captured by the Americans in 2003.

                      370-mm three-barreled recoilless gun, introduced in 1984 by Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il, whether it is in service is unknown. Possibly used as a so-called. "atomic artillery"
                      1. Roman 1977
                        Roman 1977 21 January 2014 15: 59
                        +1
                        MLRS, here the DPRK has achieved some success:
                        107-mm towed MLRS Chinese-made type 63 (available in DPRK)

                        107-mm MLRS installed in the back of the North Korean truck "Seungri-61"

                        107-mm MLRS type 63, mounted on a light armored vehicle of North Korean production M-1992,
                        107 mm MLRS mounted on VTT-323 tracked armored personnel carrier

                        The 122-mm MLRS BM-11, a North Korean 30-barrel copy of the BM-21 "Grad", is installed on the Chinese truck "Dzefang SA-30" - a copy of the ZIL-157 and towed.


                        122-mm MLRS M1985

                        122-mm MLRS M1977
                        122 mm MLRS mounted on VTT-323 tracked armored personnel carrier
                      2. Roman 1977
                        Roman 1977 21 January 2014 16: 20
                        +1
                        122-mm MLRS, a North Korean development, mounted on the ZiS-151 chassis

                        122-mm MLRS M1993, made on the Tatra chassis, with an additional accelerated reloading package, similar to the Chinese MLRS) type 83 and type 90 and the Czechoslovak MLRS RM-70,

                        similarly executed 122-mm MLRS on another chassis, the name is unknown.

                        122-mm MLRS, name unknown, North Korean development

                        132-mm towed MLRS based on "Katyusha" BM-13

                        200-mm Soviet MLRS BMD-20, is carried out in two versions: self-propelled and towed:


                        240-mm Soviet MLRS BM-24
                      3. Roman 1977
                        Roman 1977 21 January 2014 16: 33
                        +2
                        The 240-mm 12-barreled MLRS M-1985 is a North Korean analogue of the BM-27 "Uragan", during the Iran-Iraq war, along with the ACS M-1978 "Koksan", was supplied to Iran.


                        240-mm 12-barrel MLRS M-1989

                        240-mm 22-x MLRS M-1990


                        The indicated MLRS along with the M1978 and M1989 self-propelled guns are deployed, mainly along the Korean demilitarized zone, and are intended primarily for attacking Seoul and the South Korean forces located along the DMZ. MLRS, as a rule, are sheltered in well-disguised concrete structures.
  • Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 21 January 2014 13: 21
    +5
    Roman, please re-upload the photos, or give links if you can’t. It is interesting to see ...

    But as for the North Korean soldiers, one colleague gave me a rather detailed description of their physical training. Impressed, to be honest ...
    1. Saburo
      Saburo 21 January 2014 16: 51
      +1
      In the DPRK, they have been serving for like 4 years. The fleet seems even longer. So no wonder.
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 21 January 2014 13: 23
    +1
    What don’t you say, Koreans have a fighting spirit (in the sense of being rather stubborn) these will stand, and there are strengths (there are a lot of artillery systems), despite the difficulties, they even create their own strategic missile forces. Survive !!!
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 21 January 2014 14: 18
    +7
    How many flattering words to the DPRK army. The fact that soldiers are brainwashed with Jucheism round the clock absolutely does not guarantee their loyalty to the Kim in the event of war, on the contrary, the likelihood that surrender will be massive is very high. Now for the technique. What is the use of thousands of tanks and hundreds of aircraft when the shortage of fuel and lubricants does not allow regular training of troops? Even if in case of war the enemy cannot destroy and a gram from the fuel and lubricants reserves they will not be enough to conduct military operations. In DPRK, fuel and lubricants are not enough for natural needs, to say nothing of refueling tanks and aircraft.
    Now about the enemies of the DPRK. There will be no war between the south and north, the south is waiting for the Kims to eat themselves (and this will definitely happen) and chaos will begin in the DPRK, which they will use. The United States also does not need this war, the number of "world scarecrows" has greatly decreased and the loss of such a bogey as "kim with a nuclear baton" is only to their detriment. Here we come to a certain paradox. Kimu's main danger is in the north, China. Yes, the ally who saved the Juche regime at one time is the main threat. What does China want? China wants to repeat the "Chinese economic miracle" in North Korea. this is really possible, Koreans in the south are no better than their northern brothers. China needs to be shown that even with the leadership of the WPK (Workers' Party of Korea), the DPRK can become a rich country that does not need outside food aid. China can thus become the initiator of the unification of Korea, thereby gaining tremendous influence over the country and withdrawing Korea from the camp of the US allies. Even if a united Korea is neutral in the PRC-US confrontation, it will already be a huge victory for China.
    Now about the facts. Chan Song Thaek was an interesting person, under Kim Jong Il he openly spoke out about the incorrect course of the DPRK's economic development, for which he fell into disgrace, such statements they most likely made with an eye on China, where the country was flourishing with the preservation of the communist regime (relative to the DPRK). Then Kim Jong Il, when it was necessary to establish relations with China, returned Chan Song Thek taking him with him during his visit to Beijing (it is worth recalling that Kim Jong Il’s sorties abroad can be counted on the fingers), i.e. Jang Song Taek was used to establish contacts with the Chinese Communists, which confirms his pro-Chinese orientation. It’s not quite clear to Eun why Chiang Sung Thek is killing, maybe he really plotted against the cheeky, this is unknown, but China’s reaction in the form of 100 groups conducting exercises at the border with the DPRK, and not just near the border, but at a large from the highway of Beijing-Pyongyang, as it were, it warns him, so that he understands that there is enough order and in half a day the Chinese will catch the buccane in Pyongyang through drainage pipes. What will happen next is unknown, but it is very likely that Eun was short-lived ...
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    2. atalef
      atalef 21 January 2014 14: 23
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      Now for the technique. What is the use of thousands of tanks and hundreds of aircraft when the shortage of fuel and lubricants does not allow regular training of troops?

      They apparently have their own Chubais. Korean nanotechnology in action. Wood Trucks
      http://www.wise-travel.ru/asia/severnaja-koreja/otzyv-1000.html
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 21 January 2014 14: 35
        +4
        I just want the DPRK army to cut out so that the Jews do not get knocked out here ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 21 January 2014 14: 47
          +1
          Quote: T80UM1
          I just want the DPRK army to get rid of the wobble so that the Jews do not get knocked out here

          Do not deny yourself anything, go play in the Tanchiki.
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 21 January 2014 14: 59
            +3
            Is it congenital in Jews? Disrespect for everyone? Probably only Germans respect the soldier’s boot?
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            2. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2014 15: 06
              0
              Quote: T80UM1
              Is it congenital in Jews? Disrespect for everyone?

              No, only to individuals writing delusions like
              Quote: T80UM1
              I just want the DPRK army to get rid of the wobble so that the Jews do not get knocked out here

              Quote: T80UM1
              Probably only Germans respect the soldier’s boot?

              No, we generally respect smart and educated and preferably cultural. You were unlucky request
              1. T80UM1
                T80UM1 21 January 2014 15: 09
                0
                "They apparently have their own Chubais. Korean nanotechnology in action. Trucks on wood."

                That is, when you write this yourself, do you expect anything respectful in return?

                P.S. Korean
                1. atalef
                  atalef 21 January 2014 16: 45
                  0
                  Quote: T80UM1
                  P.S. Korean


                  it would be better if I took * my beloved leader * as an example, and South Korea, they have something to learn.
                  1. T80UM1
                    T80UM1 22 January 2014 07: 04
                    +1
                    Dear, you are mistaken, I do not extol the "leader", but let us not be malicious about the plight of the population, which is in international isolation ...
                2. Saburo
                  Saburo 21 January 2014 16: 53
                  +1
                  Korean? Are you koryo-saram? Or a native of the DPRK?
                  1. T80UM1
                    T80UM1 22 January 2014 07: 05
                    +1
                    Kore-saram
              2. nerd.su
                nerd.su 22 January 2014 00: 45
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                No, we generally respect smart and educated and preferably cultural. You were unlucky

                That is, themselves? laughing
        2. atalef
          atalef 21 January 2014 14: 47
          -2
          Quote: T80UM1
          I just want the DPRK army to get rid of the wobble so that the Jews do not get knocked out here

          Do not deny yourself anything, go play in the Tanchiki.
        3. Nayhas
          Nayhas 21 January 2014 22: 14
          0
          Quote: T80UM1
          I just want the DPRK army to cut out so that the Jews do not get knocked out here ...

          If you are addressed to me, then you missed, I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Although I do not consider this an insult, on the contrary.
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 22 January 2014 07: 06
            0
            no it's not at your address but atalef
      2. Walking
        Walking 21 January 2014 14: 42
        +3
        So what on wood? In the USSR, Germany and Finland, these were when gasoline was not enough.
        1. atalef
          atalef 21 January 2014 14: 48
          -3
          Quote: Hiking
          So what on wood?

          Yes - nothing, the 21st century in the country of victorious socialism. laughing
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 21 January 2014 15: 07
            +7
            let us isolate Israel, the country of "victorious freedom", close the borders, block the accounts, we will not trade, I would see how long you would have held out, with developed capitalism without resources and commodity circulation ... We wouldn’t even go on firewood for firewood in the desert no :)
            1. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2014 15: 22
              -5
              Quote: T80UM1
              let us isolate Israel, the country of "victorious freedom", close the borders, block the accounts, we will not trade, I would see how long you would have held out, with developed capitalism without resources and commodity circulation ... We wouldn’t even go on firewood for firewood in the desert no :)

              Let's not write nonsense. Another pearl. As I understand it, you are not capable of more.
              1. T80UM1
                T80UM1 21 January 2014 15: 26
                +9
                This is not delirium, the reality of the north, they are isolated, and they drive on the wood not because of the "local Chubais", but out of hopelessness, and the point is not in the regime of government, but in the fact that one broken-down country of "freedom" which supports your people, she imagines herself the navel of the earth who will decide who will live how ... And Israel in general isolation would live similarly, so there is no need to write malicious comments on this matter.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 21 January 2014 15: 48
                  -6
                  Quote: T80UM1
                  but from hopelessness, and the point is not in the regime of government, but in the fact that one ruined country of "freedom" that supports your people imagines itself as the navel of the earth that will decide who will live how ...

                  Are you Russia? Russia, as well as sanctions, supported (along with China. France and the entire Security Council) unanimously. laughing
                  1. T80UM1
                    T80UM1 22 January 2014 07: 14
                    +1
                    As for Russia and other countries, there is a difficult issue related to nuclear weapons, but the initiator of the sanctions and the "axis of evil" is a well-known country. And nuclear weapons - a measure forced by the United States only recognize force. Well, the fact that the DPRK helps Iran in the military sphere, on this issue, to the mattress covers that have united the two countries into a mythical "axis"
            2. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2014 15: 22
              -3
              Quote: T80UM1
              let us isolate Israel, the country of "victorious freedom", close the borders, block the accounts, we will not trade, I would see how long you would have held out, with developed capitalism without resources and commodity circulation ... We wouldn’t even go on firewood for firewood in the desert no :)

              Let's not write nonsense. Another pearl. As I understand it, you are not capable of more.
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      3. Day 11
        Day 11 21 January 2014 14: 43
        +1
        Sanya, I know that they are, but I didn’t see them in Pyongyang.
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        2. atalef
          atalef 21 January 2014 14: 50
          0
          Quote: Den 11
          Sanya, I know that they are, but I didn’t see them in Pyongyang.

          They are not allowed into Pyongyang.
          By the way, Denis, I prefer 10 people’s opinions to XNUMX articles. You, as I understand it, was.
          So how is it ? You can even in PM - as I understand it, some may not like
      4. Rebus
        Rebus 21 January 2014 16: 11
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Wood Trucks

        And why do not you like firewood? The truck works fine, transports goods ... All over the world they are trying to produce expensive biofuels, but here it’s cheap and without problems. Cars with a gas generator can even drive on ditches, and this is many times cheaper and more environmentally friendly than gasoline and diesel fuel.
        1. atalef
          atalef 21 January 2014 16: 47
          0
          Quote: Rebus
          And why do not you like firewood? The truck works fine, transports goods ... All over the world they are trying to produce expensive biofuels, but here it’s cheap and without problems. Cars with a gas generator can even drive on ditches, and this is many times cheaper and more environmentally friendly than gasoline and diesel fuel.

          smiled laughing
          1. Rebus
            Rebus 21 January 2014 17: 23
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            smiled

            Am I wrong about something?
            1. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2014 21: 53
              0
              Quote: Rebus
              Quote: atalef
              smiled

              Am I wrong about something?

              Of course he’s right. They also plow on cows, solely for the purpose of preserving the environment and preventing the greenhouse effect. laughing
              1. Rebus
                Rebus 21 January 2014 23: 48
                0
                Quote: atalef
                They plow on cows

                Rather, on bulls (oxen), and the point here is not environmental friendliness, but economy. I have a neighbor who keeps horses (though he doesn’t plow on them, but he does housework: bring hay, kids to go, go fishing for some reason), do not call him a retarded person, since he doesn’t want to buy a tractor ... But Koreans are great, not every country, squeezed by sanctions and practically in an economic blockade, will be able to create a nuclear industry, develop science and sell military technology to your Iranian friends. If Iran has nuclear weapons, then, with a 90% probability, it will be developed in North Korea. So ironies on the backwardness of Koreans should not be.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 22 January 2014 09: 12
                  0
                  Quote: Rebus
                  Rather, on bulls (oxen), and the point here is not environmental friendliness, but economy.

                  I don’t understand, all-adult people studied, they don’t chew in S. Korea - the Internet is there. infa at least some sort. traveled around the world, saw something.
                  Why tell some tales (well, if you believe in them - God be with you) well, why the hell to call black white
                  Because of what kind of efficiency do they plow on the oxen?
                  Because of poverty, Kim in his irrepressible thirst for power (frightening people with imminent aggression) drove the country into primitivism and poverty, hunger and all the charms associated with socialism with Kim Il Senovsky.

                  Quote: Rebus
                  But Koreans are good fellows, not every country, squeezed by sanctions and practically in an economic blockade, will be able to create the nuclear industry, develop science and sell military technology to your Iranian friends

                  What are they doing well? That people live in poverty, there is no medical service, basic food, peasants cannot leave the village without special permission. everything is prohibited from the Internet, radio. TV (not Korean), to cameras, people live in poverty.
                  You write so enthusiastically, would you like to live there yourself?
                  I read and marvel - who among all those who choke in delight from S. Korea would honestly stand up and say - I WOULD LIKE MY CHILDREN TO LIVE IN S, KOREA. - I do not think there are any.
                  So be honest.
                  A country that does not think about its citizens in the first place. which does not pay attention to health, nutrition, human freedom - is doomed. No season, tomorrow, after 50 years - when the whole world goes ahead - in Korea they will continue to plow on cows and threaten the whole world with another bomb.
                  There were already socialist countries that relied solely on their resources and pursued an isolationist policy - Romania and Albania (in Europe) - with the same number of KGB counterparts as in Korea. With endless bunkers (like in Albania) and dugouts at every corner.
                  What it ultimately ended with - they know everything that has happened to their rulers - they know the same.
                  This is the future of S. Korea.
        2. SV
          SV 21 January 2014 22: 48
          0
          Father said that in his motorcade in the 50-60s there were cars on wood (the benefit of fuel in bulk) ...
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      7. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 21 January 2014 17: 26
        +1
        atalef "They apparently have their own Chubais. Korean nanotechnology in action. Trucks on wood."
        We had one-and-a-half liquefied gas on storage bases under the USSR, like steam locomotives. Now I do not know.
      8. samoletil18
        samoletil18 21 January 2014 22: 11
        0
        Quote: atalef
        They apparently have their own Chubais. Korean nanotechnology in action. Wood Trucks

        In the USSR, it has been cultivated since the 30s
      9. Nayhas
        Nayhas 21 January 2014 22: 11
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Korean nanotechnology in action. Wood Trucks

        This is not Korean technology, far from ... But this is not the point, the tank will not go to the gas generator, not to mention aviation and the navy ...
      10. bya965
        bya965 22 January 2014 08: 10
        0
        Quote: atalef
        They apparently have their own Chubais. Korean nanotechnology in action. Wood Trucks
        http://www.wise-travel.ru/asia/severnaja-koreja/otzyv-1000.html

        Jews have the most harmful quality for them than self-conceit that is not reinforced by themselves.
        Be easier.

        http://voteto.ru/2012/11/25/газогенератор-автомобиль-на
        -wood /

        And this is using a steam generator:
        In the winter of 1924, the Dobles brought their new brainchild to New York and tested the model in front of specialists. All night the car stood in a cold garage, after which he spent about an hour in the freezing air on the street. But when the ignition was activated, the engine started immediately, and the working pressure in the boiler was reached in just 23 seconds! The maximum speed of Model E was 160 kilometers per hour, and up to 120 kilometers per hour, the car accelerated in an incredible 10 seconds!
        http://motor.ru/articles/2013/08/06/steamcars/
    3. T80UM1
      T80UM1 21 January 2014 14: 25
      +4
      In the event of war, we will talk a little about devotion to the Kims and how much loyalty to the motherland ... You do not confuse Muslims with the Far Eastern peoples, there the concept of honor and fidelity to duty are not empty words, and they are not for sale ...
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        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 21 January 2014 15: 02
          +2
          "That is why the question. For South Korea, this is the same Motherland, so whether they will resist to the last is a question."

          Maybe their homeland, only their training will be worse (2 years), 9 years - this is not just a term for professionals, even with weapons of past generations ...

          "Everything is for sale, the days of the samurai are over 100 years ago."
          Again, you don’t know the Far Eastern peoples, don’t speak for them, here “your folk” method of a donkey laden with money does not work
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 21 January 2014 16: 55
            +1
            Most of the army, as in the USSR, is occupied by households. I followed a link to a North Korean magazine - there is a photo of a ski resort. As written, built by soldiers. It is probably beneficial to take into the army for 9 years and use force as a free slave.
            (He himself built houses in the USSR on an urgent basis, although he did not serve the construction battalion)
      2. atalef
        atalef 21 January 2014 14: 52
        0
        Quote: T80UM1
        In the event of war, we will talk a little about devotion to the kim and how much loyalty to the homeland ...

        That is why the question is. For South Korea, this is the same Motherland, so whether they will resist to the last is a question.

        Quote: T80UM1
        You do not confuse Muslims with the Far Eastern peoples, there the concept of honor and fidelity to duty are not empty words, and they are not for sale ...

        Everything is for sale, the time of the samurai 100 years ago is over.
        By the way, and they changed the same shoguns for grandmothers.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 21 January 2014 22: 26
          0
          And they practice mortar shootings of enemies of the regime.
          In the 1990s he liked to listen to Radio Liberty (since then I hate the whole West). And the axis of evil was periodically voiced there: Iraq, North Korea, Syria, Iran. And they hinted that the sequence of destruction would be as indicated above. This was due to their ability to resist "liberation". The DPRK misses its turn. Maybe mattress toppers are really afraid of them?
      3. Zymran
        Zymran 21 January 2014 21: 17
        0
        Quote: T80UM1
        You do not confuse Muslims with the Far Eastern peoples, there the concept of honor and fidelity to duty are not empty words, and they are not for sale ...


        Nobody collaborated with the Japanese or what?
        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 22 January 2014 07: 09
          0
          bribery and cooperation are two different things
  • Arhj
    Arhj 21 January 2014 17: 25
    0
    Everything is described in detail in the article, it was interesting to read. Thank. But in the absence of modern aviation, the sense of defense stubbornly persists that in the event of a war with any more or less serious enemy, the territory of North Korea will turn into a grand shooting range with an excellent set of targets.
    It seems that their only chance in a "real" war is to shoot artillery ammunition as quickly as possible, abandon equipment and fight with partisan methods. But I'm not sure that the North Korean mountains are capable of sheltering, let alone feed a million-strong army
    1. Walking
      Walking 21 January 2014 18: 23
      +1
      All this was in the last war, with complete superiority in forces and in the dominance of aviation, Americans with vassals stagnated for almost 3 years.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 21 January 2014 18: 31
        +2
        Are you aware that the DPRK has fought with the whole UN? Look with whom they concluded a truce
      2. Arhj
        Arhj 21 January 2014 19: 45
        +2
        Forgot one small fact. North Korea almost lost the war. One step before the defeat, she was saved by the introduction of Chinese troops into Korea and the military-technical assistance of the USSR. By the end of the war, the superiority of the Americans in the air was not critical, including due to the fact that the USSR in fact sent entire aviation regiments there with what, along with the pilots.
        1. Arhj
          Arhj 21 January 2014 19: 57
          +2
          In fairness, however, I must say that South Korea did not lose a little earlier only thanks to the intervention of the combined allied forces. In any case, in the early 50s, Korea fought in North and South Korea, and the socialist and capitalist blocs.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 21 January 2014 20: 02
            +2
            In the 51st, Korea was practically (90%) united.
  • Gronsky
    Gronsky 21 January 2014 19: 26
    +1
    The army of North Korea, of course, does not shine with the novelty of weapons, and the people have a fashionable appearance, and the leaders are driven in to the full. But look how the eyes of the soldiers burn, what a fighting spirit!
    Yes, they will tear aircraft carriers into small pieces with their bare hands. If they competently, following the Chinese model, are reformed and at the same time do not decompose from the inside (oh, how familiar this is to us), then the country will be normal to itself. I hold my fists for them.
    P.S. And the execution of the stealing officials from a mortar is a measure worthy of imitation. I would have taken my soul by looking at Tolya Serdyukov, who was flying to parts.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 21 January 2014 19: 32
      0
      If you are talking about Uncle Eun-it’s kind of fed him to dogs
      1. Gronsky
        Gronsky 21 January 2014 19: 37
        +3
        Which were then fed to the members of the Politburo at the dinner party? laughing
        Well, dogs, so dogs, too, nothing, but not so spectacular.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 21 January 2014 19: 44
          0
          They say that they didn’t feed these shepherds for a week (they only gave them drink), but this ghoul (drug addict-pedophile -...) ra
          They sat down and threw them to be eaten. By the way, do you remember the story about Bokassa? This was when they offered a fillet to Leonid Ilyich (poured). I don’t think of it, Bazhanov told
          1. Zymran
            Zymran 21 January 2014 21: 05
            0
            There was already a rebuttal about this news with dogs.
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 21 January 2014 21: 08
              0
              Maybe it wasn’t with the dogs. But who knows the whole truth? Songunych got pierced (S.Korei comrades from the KGB, he was not ready and did not want to say it) as if they were shot from the KPVT
  • alone
    alone 21 January 2014 19: 59
    +1
    The only superiority of the North Korean army is the density of artillery and MLRS. And they bet on it. Opponents also know about it, therefore they don’t climb. Yes, and to be honest, no one needs it yet. To raise the North to the level of the South, we need fantastic amounts .so hardly anyone will go for it.

    Well, if Eun suddenly does not decide to attack himself)) and you can expect anything from him))
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 21 January 2014 20: 08
      +1
      By the way, Omar, why do you all call him bad words-fat man, fat trust, etc. He has diabetes (like his dad). But he began to brush the ranks under his own greyhounds (this is not to be undone)
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 21 January 2014 22: 30
        0
        Quote: Den 11
        .But he cleaned the ranks under his own he began a greyhound

        Gorbachev and Yeltsin cleaned up some. Well done.
      2. alone
        alone 21 January 2014 23: 12
        +1
        Quote: Den 11
        By the way, Omar, why do you all call him bad words-fat man, fatty, etc. He has diabetes (like his dad). But he started to brush the ranks under his own


        Denis, hi! I don’t know about diabetes, this is news for me. The guy is really weighty. Calling him fat did not have the intention to insult him. Calling Obama flawed also I do not insult him, because he is like that))
    2. nerd.su
      nerd.su 22 January 2014 00: 58
      0
      Quote: lonely
      Well, if Eun suddenly does not decide to attack himself)) and you can expect anything from him))

      Eun is unlikely to make up his mind. At least, while in the South Caucasus, the standard of living will be as higher as it is now. Otherwise, the North Korean soldiers may break the pattern when they evaluate the South Korean reality ... But if the standard of living in the DPRK is raised, then it is quite possible to go to the South War.
  • Shumer
    Shumer 21 January 2014 21: 05
    +1
    The people, I’m sorry, this is real as in the photo, or this is Photoshop, otherwise we have a dispute on this topic in our workshop.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 21 January 2014 21: 15
      +1
      Old man, of course this is Photoshop! This has already been discussed here (he laid out)
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 21 January 2014 21: 43
        +1
        Quote: Den 11
        Of course this is Photoshop! It has already been discussed here (he laid out)

        Welcome.
        hi
        Yeah, I remember how neighing then over this photoshop.

        It would be interesting to hear about the DPRK. Denis, maybe in a nutshell?
        For a long time already I track reports of tourists on forums, it is very interesting to read.
    2. atalef
      atalef 21 January 2014 21: 54
      0
      nan trousers photoshop, and the rest is true
      1. TRex
        TRex 22 January 2014 06: 42
        +1
        Do not screw nonsense - "the rest is true" ... Trinkets, of course, to hell, but such insanity has not yet reached. There are originals of photographs in the internet, look who is interested. The army, of course, "amusing", but "with a serious expression" ...
  • DMB-78
    DMB-78 21 January 2014 21: 33
    +2
    but it seems to me if the Americans need to roll out Korea very quickly. without introducing troops, only bombing from high altitudes. I’m not talking about the Korean Navy. cruise missiles without entering the waters of Korea. partisin will be smoked out according to the method of Vietnam, they will burn all the jungle, there is experience. I don’t know much about the defense of Korea, I guess they have foreseen such a development of events and are ready for this. I’m glad to be wrong, we don’t need a war near the border with Russia
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 January 2014 22: 38
      0
      In 2003, Russian mattress makers filed claims about the presence of modern anti-tank systems in Iraq. And the video with the flying "Abrams" was sent out on all channels (only the just indignation of the Russians did not happen to such insidiousness). And here both China and Russia have a common border. Certainly something from their warehouses will disappear in the event of an aggravation of the stop.
  • Unisonic
    Unisonic 21 January 2014 23: 39
    +1
    Is Russia an ally of the North Korean army? He laughed heartily. The DPRK is not only not an ally of the Russian Federation, the DPRK is not even an ally of the PRC. The hysterical and manic leadership of this poor people, which had such hard trials, already got everyone.


    Objectively, only Russia is interested in the peaceful unification of the two Koreas, which, in fact, Pyongyang most wants.

    Oga, down with Samsung, Kia, Hyundai and much more. You give the full potential of the South Caucasus under the leadership of the DPRK to the missile industry and nuclear weapons. Then to terrorize the whole world - give diesel fuel, otherwise a nuclear war.
    It is interesting, and when the DPRK will conquer the whole world in this way, where will they demand diesel fuel and food?
    1. T80UM1
      T80UM1 22 January 2014 07: 24
      0
      Adequate comment, plus
  • ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 22 January 2014 00: 56
    -2
    The United States will roll them out, like Iraq. According to their air defense, everything is clear, they will sit in the jungle 60 years ago.
  • demotivator
    demotivator 22 January 2014 07: 06
    +1
    For some reason, the discussion has slipped to the level of who and whom will "roll out", or how bad it will be without "Samsung" with "Hyundai". But this is not the most important thing. In my opinion, it is more important to understand how a small country, without a sufficient amount of natural resources and plots of land suitable for agricultural production, a country that has been under an economic blockade by the United States for many years, continues to remain “afloat”. And at the same time, the North Koreans were able to even go into space! There is something to think about. Probably, they love their homeland, but Samsung and other clothes are not the main thing for them.
  • Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 22 January 2014 07: 40
    +1
    Oh, this blockade. The DPRK has a transparent border with China, and it is a world factory. Ie there is still a blockade there. lol
    Secondly, everyone constantly takes RK without Americans, then Americans without RK. But the mobilized army of the Republic of Kazakhstan is significantly numerically superior to the mobilized army of the DPRK, and also has superior weapons. And thousands of tanks and other things Americans can quickly deliver from their warehouses and deploy any scale of production. Given the complete dominance of the air, sea and land. The DPRK army will lose without a chance, and South Koreans will annex and control the country. And these guys are not Americans, they arrange total repression, and swap those who are in the camps for those who are not in the camps as two fingers on the asphalt. Read about their exploits in the Korean and Vietnam War.
    Therefore, there is no chance of guerrilla warfare either. The DPRK is constantly giving reasons to start a war, and given that the fat-skinned man has already broken the ceasefire, they just need to remember that there is a war, they don’t even need to make any diplomatic moves. .
    The main constraints are.
    1. The DPRK is an ideal scarecrow, a caricature of the communists, and so on.
    2. Before the death of the DPRK, we have time to kill hundreds of thousands of citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan and grind many divisions of the Republic of Kazakhstan in a desperate attack.
    3. The PRC can intervene and the Korean War will repeat.
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 22 January 2014 11: 31
      0
      The main deterrent is China. Everyone understands that no matter who starts the war between the DPRK and the Republic of Korea, China uses it to establish pro-Chinese leadership throughout the peninsula. No options. No South or North Koreans can control all of Korea. This is clear to everyone except you.

      Quote: BlackMokona
      But the mobilized army of the Republic of Kazakhstan is significantly numerically superior to the mobilized army of the DPRK, and also has superior weapons.

      Due to the longer service life and regular training of reservists, the military power of the mobilized army of the DPRK will be the same as that of the mobilized army of the Republic of Kazakhstan. The ROK will not have time to mobilize if the North Koreans are the first to start. And if South Korea decides to mobilize the army first, then it won’t be possible to hide and the DPRK will strike first, again the RK will not have time to mobilize the army laughing
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 25 January 2014 11: 35
        0
        The service life longer than necessary for the training of a soldier does not affect his military power.
        Regular trainings are held by the soldiers of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
        Korea, a small territory with a very developed infrastructure, therefore, mobilization will be carried out there with lightning speed. And given the layered defense at the border, and the narrowness of the border itself with huge armies. RK will have time to fully mobilize.
  • ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 22 January 2014 23: 17
    0
    I don’t understand why I was bombarded (Someone thinks that the DPRK’s air defense can withstand the USA and Kazakhstan? It is objectively inferior to the Iraqi one, from which, as we have seen, horns and legs remained.
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 23 January 2014 15: 53
      +1
      Make a comparison of the geography of the northern part of the Korean Peninsula and Iraq, as well as think about why no Arab state can be compared with the "tigers" of Southeast Asia, compare the mentality and structure of the peoples of Iraq and North Korea. And you will understand why you were minus.