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Six plants under one wing

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Six plants under one wingOn December 24, 2013, the Tu-154 of the Air Force Commander-in-Chief, Lieutenant General Viktor Bondarev, rose from the Chkalovsky airfield near Moscow and headed east. Together with the current commander-in-chief, the director of the Directorate of Military Programs aviation United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) - the previous Air Force Commander Vladimir Mikhailov, also a Hero of Russia. And a group of comrades from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Air Force and the KLA, since it was planned to visit aircraft factories and receive aircraft on state defense orders. In addition to them, five journalists were invited on board, including the author of these lines.


It was expected that in three days the command of the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force would visit a pair of aircraft factories. However, the result exceeded all expectations - 13 takeoffs and landings. The final route looks like this: Moscow (Chkalovsky) - Novosibirsk - Domna (Chita) - Vladivostok (Knevichi) - Arseniev - Vozdvizhenka air base - Vladivostok - Khabarovsk - Komsomolsk-on-Amur - Ulan-Ude - Irkutsk - Novosibirsk - Ulyanovsk - Moscow ( Chkalovsky).

"ALLIGATORS" FLY HIGH

At one o'clock, after parting with the snotty Moscow winter, the Tu-154 headed for the sun - it is above the clouds! And literally a couple of hours later, the plane crashed into the darkness of the night, peppered with bright stars. Refueling in Novosibirsk (overboard minus 20) and the flight to Domn air base (minus 29) in the Chita region, where the commander-in-chief met with the flight crew, found out how the new technology is being mastered. Next landing in Vladivostok.

It was barely past midnight in Moscow, and dawn was already waiting here. It started quite early, already in 9 hours. By this time, everyone had settled in two new Mi-8AMTSH helicopters. The machine differs from previous models in the presence of a ramp that allows loading and transporting wheeled vehicles. And the ramp is separated from the salon with a curtain of silver blankets so that less cold comes inside. And another nice little thing - heating. They just took off, from special holes at the level of the lower back, people sitting along the sides of the people blew warm air. After a quarter of an hour it became really warm. Those who flew in the winter on old helicopters will especially appreciate such comfort.

We land at the factory airfield of the enterprise of the OJSC “Arsenyev Aviation Company“ Progress ”named after Sazykin” in the city of Arsenyev. The territory of the flight test station AAC Progress. There are ready-made Ka-12 "Alligator" 52 helicopters in the workshop with the blades removed so that it is more convenient to load into a container and transport. Here a solemn transfer to their customer took place. In addition to Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force Viktor Bondarev, the General Director of the Russian Helicopters holding company, Alexander Mikheyev, and the managing director of AAK Progress, Yuri Denisenko, were present.

A helicopter just last summer was presented to the international community at the Le Bourget air show. Although already in 2011, 12 Ka-52 were supplied to the Russian Air Force, and the total number of machines of this type built was already 65 units. 20 of them is located at the Chernigovka airbase (Primorsky Krai), 16 transferred to the 393-th Sevastopol airbase (Korenovsk, Krasnodar Krai), 8 - in Torzhok. Unfortunately, 2 machines are lost.

In 2013, Progress AAC completed the implementation of the contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense, signed in 2009. And the execution of the next long-term contract for the supply of 143 Ka-52 with a total value of about 120 billion rubles began.

Viktor Bondarev, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, said at the acceptance ceremony: “Today we saw machines in the workshops from the back of 2014. The Russian Helicopters holding and the plant give us a promise that next year we will receive helicopters rhythmically and quarterly. Not at the end of the year, but starting from March, the first six helicopters will go, and then quarterly - three or four cars. The pilots will begin to master them in March. ”

Alexander Mikheyev, Director General of the Russian Helicopters holding company, said: “The transfer of a large batch of new-generation Ka-52 Alligator helicopters to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is of great importance to us. The Ministry of Defense of Russia is the largest customer of the holding’s products, and in working with it we prioritize the timeliness of deliveries and the quality of the unique helicopter technology, which is designed to increase the defense capability of our country. ”

In the next shop is assembling a prototype of a new multi-purpose helicopter Ka-62. First time in stories Domestic helicopter project is implemented in close cooperation with leading Russian and foreign companies. The glass cabin Ka-62 was developed by the Russian company Transas, it will also supply a navigation system with support for GPS and GLONASS. Foreign engines have already been delivered to Russia, have been tested and confirmed the declared characteristics. An experimental copy of the Ka-62 in the 2014 year will go on tests. The machine is designed to carry 12 – 15 passengers and cargo.

On this occasion, Viktor Bondarev noted: “The Russian Air Force is interested in receiving a new Ka-62 helicopter developed by Kamov. I think the helicopter will turn out good, and the Air Force will be happy to take it. ”

The return flight over the snow-covered hills of Primorye was marked by a brief landing at Vozdvizhenka airfield. The aircraft repair plant of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is located here, but the commander-in-chief did not go there. It is understandable, because all these enterprises decided to transfer to the jurisdiction of the KLA. The commander-in-chief of the Air Force said so about this: “By the decision of the Minister of Defense, the aircraft repair industry is being transferred to the holding. I believe that this is absolutely correct, because they have spare parts, they can solve all the issues of restoring the aircraft, purchased products, which are already at the limit, much faster ”.

In Vladivostok, straight from the helicopters we flew into the aircraft of the commander-in-chief and immediately took off. Piloting a Tu-154 military crew is very different from piloting a civilian. They just drove out onto the runway, started acceleration and were already taking off, lifting the nose sharply upwards. We looked at the clock: 15 – 20 seconds from the start of the run. Landings are just as fast: sharply down, exit on the runway, for a few seconds, and now trembling from the joints of concrete slabs is felt. And no hit or push at the moment of touch. One word - aces.

THE MOST BIGGEST FIGHTER

Short stop in Khabarovsk and flight to Komsomolsk-on-Amur. The height of the day, and our biological clock shows the end of Moscow night. The plane rolls out for takeoff, I close my eyes, I open it - we roll along the runway. Have we not yet taken off? But the changed landscape outside the window says: just sat down.

The branch of OJSC "Company" Sukhoi "" Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin "- Russia's largest aircraft manufacturing plant for the production of combat aircraft. Su-35, multifunctional super-maneuverable single-seat fighters, are on the stocks.

Says Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force Viktor Bondarev: “The plane is very serious in terms of the 4 ++ program, in the super maneuverability program. Total Su-35 purchased 48 aircraft, this year 12, next 12 and then 14 boards. 10 already exists. ”

Vladimir Mikhailov, Director of the UAC Military Programs Directorate: “We are only happy about this - the growth of the defense order. You know about the growth of industrial production in the country, so it is 25% by UAC. It says a lot, that is, we have a task that we are obliged to perform. As for this enterprise, I know him from 2002 of the year when I became commander in chief. I arrived, we then did an upgrade of the Su-27CM, then the Su-27CM2, Su-27CM3. And before the PAK FA, we had to do this Su-35, on it we work on many points that will be used in the fifth generation aircraft. ”

Naturally, the journalists did not ignore the PAK FA (T-50). When asked about the future prospects of the fifth-generation aircraft, Viktor Bondarev responded: “The industry has released 5 machines, and they are being tested. From March one will be transferred to the 929 State Flight Test Center for further testing. I think this plane will confirm its characteristics. While the materiel works reliably, without delays. From 2016, the year must go to the troops. So planned, and there is still no reason to worry that this program was not implemented. "

ULAN-UDE - CAPITAL OF HELICOPLE-BUILDING

We fly to the west, trying to catch up with the passing day, but do not keep up. In Ulan-Ude already twilight. There are no finished helicopters at the Ulan-Ude Aircraft Plant, only those that are in the process of assembly. The Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force explains: “There are supplies for the Ministry of Defense of the Mi-17AMTSH helicopters. This year, the Air Force received a 53 helicopter from this plant. Not only this year, but also on account of 2014 and 2015's. Passed forward delivery. And, as you can see, there is not a single helicopter for delivery. The surrender has long been completed, and the Air Force has been exploiting these helicopters for a long time. On account of next year, this helicopter is being prepared and a few more. Next year we will take 40 helicopters, and I have no doubt that these helicopters will be delivered in a timely manner. You understand that making a 53 helicopter in one year means huge capacities, good organization of work, excellent specialists, good work performers. Managers think about production, care, prepare workers, prepare a shift. Therefore, I think they will succeed. We have been working with this plant for a long time and closely, and we will continue. ”

Vyacheslav Kozlov, First Deputy Managing Director of OJSC UUAZ, says: “We had the task to fulfill a three-year plan in one year, we coped with that. The total volume of the long-term defense order is 132 helicopter for the period 2012 – 2020 years. The second long-term state order for the supply of upgraded helicopters MI-8AMTSH for 2014 year - 40 products ".

Journalists are interested in whether the export order will not interfere with the fulfillment of the state defense order by Peru?

“On the contrary, it will help. We need a total load of at least 100 helicopters to ensure a comprehensive process economy, so we produce both civilian and military equipment at an aircraft factory. There can be no doubt: we will deliver the equipment in time for the needs of the Ministry of Defense, as well as for all third-party customers.

It can be added that helicopters supplied abroad contribute in a certain way to the development of aviation technology for the Russian Air Force. They sometimes create the necessary reserve of monetary profit, which can be used ahead of the formation of the technical specifications of the Air Force.

It was a comprehensive portfolio of orders of both civil and military equipment that allowed us to fulfill the state defense order ahead of schedule. It was already mentioned earlier that we prematurely supplied both 2013 and 2014 and 2015 vehicles. All equipment has already been delivered to military units, so we have already closed the year in full ”.

Viktor Bondarev, Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force, states with satisfaction: “The technology has gone to all the districts. We make a priority from Transbaikalia further here and slightly to Europe. Kazan helicopters mostly go to the European part. And there is an insignificant part here, therefore, in order not to drive cars far away, it is this kind of cooperation. The helicopter is reliable, good. Taking this opportunity, I want to congratulate the team on the New Year ... But do not stop there. Our rivals in this area of ​​development also have quite good helicopters. Therefore, we must always be ahead. ”

I ask a favorite question about the problem of accessory companies and purchasing cooperation. Too often due to failures in delivery, state orders were disrupted.

“We went on the shelf for orders on the order of 100 products per year. Therefore, it can be said that they have more or less stabilized, ”says Vyacheslav Vladimirovich Kozlov, First Deputy Managing Director of OJSC UUAZ. - There is growth, but moderate, so all subcontractors by and large adapted to this growth. We have, starting with 2006, the growth of the production program is proceeding systematically, therefore all subcontractors understand this and one of the fundamental bases of interaction with them is long-term contracts for the supply of purchased components.

We prescribe there all the cost conditions. The associates clearly understand how many products need to be supplied in what period. And they manage to prepare their production, recruit people, embroider bottlenecks and ensure the delivery of purchased components at exactly the right time. This is indeed a serious problem, since the cost of our product is of the order of 70% in value terms - these are purchased components. A very important serious question, but for now everything is going fine, and there are all the assumptions and hopes that in 2014 – 2015 there will be no failures. ”

New tasks for the armed forces have appeared in the Polar Region, and a new version of the Mi-17 is being prepared in Ulan-Ude for work in high latitudes. The project details were revealed by the chief engineer of the enterprise Sergey Vladimirovich Solomin:

“The radio station, which will work as a scanner and move at high latitudes in the case of a weak signal to the signals that it receives over the range, has been changed. You see, there is an auxiliary power plant - this design was practically not shown anywhere. She has a power 30 KW, excess for a helicopter. It will be possible to solve a lot of problems in relation to the northern conditions. Heating the cabin, warming up food, you can ensure that the helicopter is warming up before launching in the cold. We think to equip it with skis forgotten in our time for landing on soft snow, on swampy terrain. The complex of work on it must be done, the fuselage is insulated. We have worked these things so far in the salons to provide heat and sound insulation. Now we want to transfer these technologies to the helicopter under the index “Arctic”. Use space technology for heating. Hopefully, the pricing on this helicopter will be acceptable. The main one, of course, will be the VK-2500 engine, which in the Arctic provides the possibility of continued take-off in the event of a single engine shutdown. Glazing is nothing new - heating, alcohol system. It is worth thinking about painting the blades in some color that will allow you to see it in the air and in the snow. ”

Here it is necessary to say about the work of the entire holding company “Helicopters of Russia” - the organizing force. I remembered how several years ago the UUAZ team rebelled against the intervention of the holding company, which transferred production of helicopters to another plant in order to concentrate the production of one brand on one enterprise. Then the words were heard that they want to eliminate UUAZ. And now they are making 100 helicopters a year here. Ten years ago, no one would believe in the possibility of this.

All enterprises of Russian Helicopters have completed the 2013 state defense order of the year. Exact figures were not reported, but tentatively for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the year delivered at least 112 helicopters. Production per employee of the holding increased by 12,4%, reaching 3,4 million rubles. The order book is 772 helicopter worth over 370 billion rubles. In 2013, enterprises introduced over 800 units of new equipment.

IRKUTSK – NOVOSIBIRSK

Irkutsk Aviation Plant - a branch of OJSC "Irkut Corporation". During the visit, Lieutenant-General Viktor Bondarev, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, Colonel-General Alexander Zelin, Assistant Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, and Vladimir Mikhailov, Director of the Directorate of Military Aviation Programs of UAC, summed up the implementation of the 2013 defense order by the Irkut Corporation.

“The Irkutsk Aviation Plant this year fulfilled and even exceeded the plan for the supply of aircraft to the troops,” said Viktor Bondarev. “The two Yak-130s that are included in the 2014 plan of the year are almost ready to be shipped and will be delivered early.”

According to the commander in chief, the 18 Yak-130 from Irkutsk was sent to the Borisoglebsky Aviation Training Center of the Russian Air Force, and the 14 Su-30CM was sent to the garrison in Domn. However, the Yak-130 is not the same as it was several years ago, now it is the Yak-130CM.

“We are just from Domna. We looked at how new machines are being developed, ”Viktor Bondarev told reporters. - I want to note: the planes are beautiful - the pilots are happy. And it very much pleases, - the commander-in-chief emphasized. “After all, for many years we have cursed the industry for late deliveries and poor quality products. On the example of Irkut, it is clear that the situation is changing for the better: the industry gives out high-quality products and, which is very important, not by the end of the year, but quarterly. Due to this, the pilots constantly fly, train. The work of the Irkutsk Aviation Plant is a good example for other enterprises. ”

A series of flights was interrupted in Novosibirsk. Here we were able to spend the night in a hotel. The 32-hour working day is over. All this time, the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force and his team did not show fatigue, they were vigorous and active. The same can be said about the crew of the Tu-154. In general, in the Russian Air Force there are entirely seven-person people who can be on alert 24 hours a day and do their job, as they say, without loss of quality. Therefore, be sure that the sky of Russia is reliably protected day and night.

Early in the morning went to the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named. V.P. Chkalov. In the assembly shop are skeletons Su-34. There are quite a lot of young people among the collectors;

“This plane will be in demand, since it solves a complex of such problems, which other types of aircraft never dreamed of,” said BBC Commander-in-Chief Viktor Bondarev. - It is, in principle, the flagship of the aviation industry, Russian aviation. There were periods when the Air Force did not receive a single 10 – 15 aircraft for years. It was from this plane that everything began. I went to the production of the Su-34, and after that with the help of the President, the Minister of Defense, we get the latest technology. But still, the Su-34, as it was an airplane that solves many questions and problems, remains the flagship of the aviation industry and the Air Force. The plant fully paid off with the state order of this year, we received 14 aircraft. Next year we get 16 aircraft. And you see here: the groundwork is already there. Worth 5 aircraft, and I think so, we will get the first batch in March. ”

A representative of the plant answered my question: “There are always problems with cooperation. On this plane almost 200 major suppliers. 75% of the cost of the aircraft - purchased components. But this is a working mode, and we must pay tribute, the existing cooperation has now steadily reached the volume of 14 – 16 aircraft sets per year, and the issues that arise are solved in working order. ”

Victor Bondarev told about how production grew from year to year:

“Initially there were 10 planes per year, then 12, then 14. The following year, the 16 board, and with 2015, the plant goes to 20 aircraft a year. And then this is the figure. You can, of course, increase, do it in three years, and then the plant will stand. But he will perform this task for 7 years. Such aircraft in service with 32. In the Western and Southern District replenish. We will get almost 24 for the replacement of the Su-150, and maybe 200 aircraft.

Su-24 - is a front-line bomber, bomb load 7,5 tons. But this is at the minimum range, 350 km combat radius. This aircraft carries 12 tons, and it has a combat radius of more than 1000 km. Plus, the tasks that the scope solves are much better. Su-24 could get into 20 – 30 m from the center of the target, this plane solves problems at a distance of 5 – 7 m from the center of the target and a direct hit. Any bomb is precision. weapon, thanks to the equipment that is installed on the Su-34 ".

FLYING GIANTS

The next destination is Ulyanovsk. At the airfield East are four An-124 "Ruslan". This is the same airfield where they allegedly almost built a NATO base, although it was only a transit point with a small civilian staff for the transfer of property from Afghanistan to Europe. There was a lot of patriotic hysteria. But Pakistan opened the roads, and the United States immediately abandoned the Ulyanovsk project, which promised the Russian treasury 6 – 8 thousands of dollars from each plane that landed.

Ulyanovsk CJSC Aviastar-SP was in a pre-bankrupt state several years ago. Then the production of IL-76 was moved here from Tashkent and began assembling a new IL-476 (IL-76MD-90А). In the giant workshop of the plant, we saw both of these aircraft in the process of final assembly and several huge Ruslans undergoing repairs. The spectacle is impressive.

Summing up, the commander-in-chief of the Air Force said: “Now we have looked not only at Ruslana, we looked at the aircraft that is replacing the IL-76, this is IL-476. Factory readiness percent 90. And 15 May this aircraft factory already passes us into operation. Behind him is the second side - in October. Well, there are three "Ruslan" are, you saw them, they are repair. In 2014, we get them. These are our veveesovskie, and we are not going to transfer them to anyone.

IL-476-e in the 2014 year will go, two pieces. Before 20, the plant will fulfill the order - the Air Force will receive 39 aircraft. The difference is even visible. IL-476 brand new car. What we stated in the TTZ, they performed. Firstly, avionics is different, navigation is different, wing, the engines on the 20% are more economical, plus range and plus weight. Also on 20% more. The plane satisfies us, and we will gladly take it further.

Until 2020, I think we can repair and extend the resource to the rest of the Ruslans. I think all the 26, consisting in the Air Force, we will pass through the repair of the plant. "Ruslan" solves many questions and problems. Plus, he makes money. It is the largest aircraft in the world, it carries the most cargo and cannot be abandoned. I think that the decision on the resumption of production has been correctly made, it will benefit both us, and Ukraine, and the Armed Forces.

The Minister of Defense has been assigned a task that is being considered in several versions. Now "Ruslan" 26 in the sun. I think the same amount would not hurt. You understand that, having such an aircraft, it is possible to transfer the airborne battalion during 10 hours to any distance, to any theater of military operations ”.

It should be added that all the Ruslans of the Russian Defense Ministry are not just being repaired, but upgraded to An-124-100. This is an aircraft version for military transport aviation that meets ICAO requirements for noise on the ground, accuracy of navigation, etc. Modernization is made according to the documentation of the ASTC. OK. Antonov and resource extension programs.

From Ulyanovsk to Moscow is within reach. Here on Chkalovsky this wonderful three-day adventure ended with 13 ups and landings, six aircraft factories and meetings with interesting people and no less interesting planes and helicopters.

And the conclusions from all this are obvious. The rearmament program before 2020 is in place. Thanks to her, the aviation industry of Russia is fully loaded. Yesterday's bankrupts are today thriving enterprises, where the main problem is personnel. Ulyanovsk Aviastar-SP has already recruited over 10 thousand employees, but still needs at least 5 thousand, because the staff number is 16 thousand.

All enterprises entered the rhythmic production with delivery on schedule. Long-term contracts with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation made it possible to conclude the same contracts with related companies, ensuring the assembly of aircraft equipment with regular deliveries of purchased components. The leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Air Force provided timely funding and advance work, which was hardly possible two or three years ago. Agreed and prices for finished products that satisfy both parties.

Therefore, it is very funny to hear periodic cries about a devastated defense and outdated Air Force equipment. Comrades are far behind life, do not follow the news and do not represent modern realities.

Upgrading Air Force equipment is going well. And the latest models, already created in our time, are coming, and not the legacy of the Soviet era. And they need young lieutenants. As in the industry, the personnel problem in the Air Force has worsened. And each time, telling journalists about the high qualities of the new aircraft, Viktor Bondarev certainly reminded of the decision of the President and Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu to restore a number of flight schools in 2014. And I asked to write that school graduates are required, ready to do real male work - to conquer the sky and protect it with honor and dignity, the sky of the Motherland. By the way, the army has not been in trouble for a long time. And the salaries of young officers, especially pilots, are such that office clerks will burst with envy.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 20 January 2014 10: 56
    +16
    A positive article is no gloom and snot.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 20 January 2014 11: 09
      +10
      Double checked, not a word about "blinks"!
      1. alone
        alone 20 January 2014 11: 39
        +2
        and don’t wait. There will be monopolization. There will be only SU.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 20 January 2014 12: 49
          +4
          and don’t wait. There will be monopolization. There will be only SU.


          The creation of the UAC brought a positive result. The aircraft industry of military aircraft received due systematic movement.
          But as the predominance of one Su design bureau in the industry shows, this organization of the aviation industry is insufficient. In order to comprehensively develop all areas and design bureaus, it is necessary to restore the aviation industry, similar to the branch ministry of the aviation industry of the USSR.
          1. VAF
            VAF 20 January 2014 15: 03
            +3
            Quote: vladimirZ

            The creation of the UAC brought a positive result. The aircraft industry of military aircraft received due systematic movement.


            Dear Vladimir, welcome drinks ..but..Let's not agree here soldier

            Only Sukhoi is systematically moving and then ... due to the former export. Well and aging and wear of our fleet.

            Other "wait" only for "handouts" from the great Po well, or "cooperation .. under his command"

            Otherwise, you are absolutely right .. only Separate and independent KB under the auspices of the MAP !!
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 20 January 2014 16: 44
              +3
              ..but..Let's not agree here
              Only Dry is moving systematically ...


              Sergey, I greet you. I noted this "the prevalence of one Su design bureau in the industry" as a disadvantage, which does not give the development of the aviation industry to the proper extent. hi
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 20 January 2014 20: 25
                +1
                Quote: vaf
                Only Sukhoi is systematically moving and then ... due to the former export. Well and aging and wear of our fleet.


                At one time, Mig profiled a foreign tender, which was supposed to save him, and Sukhoi liked a lot of people, which made it possible to save specialists and plants. And the same MiGs will be produced, while as decks, and then, when they mature and realize that waiting for help with an open mouth and crying like Tupolev does is silly and unpromising.
            2. Luzhichanin
              Luzhichanin 20 January 2014 20: 25
              +4
              Quote: vaf
              Only Separate and Independent Design Bureau under the auspices of the MAP !!

              according to MIG, everything is deplorable ... in terms of kb ... the documentation on technology will probably be more alive than the composition of kb itself.
              according to old models, production is going on ... for now.
              1. VAF
                VAF 20 January 2014 20: 39
                +2
                Quote: Luzhichanin
                on MIG everything is deplorable ... in terms of kb.


                Yes, I am in the know. Dear, in the know +! recourse But there is still "some" wink and there are "plans" for MAI and Baumanka wink
      2. VAF
        VAF 20 January 2014 14: 50
        +4
        Quote: mirag2
        Double checked, not a word about "blinks"!


        And you won’t find it .... Now, if it were a "super-bobby". But yes ... "that's our everything" crying
        And so .... MiG .. it's ... "a bone in the throat" of the great Po! wassat
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 20 January 2014 15: 32
          +1
          Quote: vaf
          And you won't find it .... Now, if it was a "super-bobby". Yes ... "This is our everything" And so .... MiG .. this is ... "a bone in the throat" of the great Po! !!

          And what kind of a fly to fly to the Tu-154, to the MiG plant. It’s easier to get there by car ... smile
          1. VAF
            VAF 20 January 2014 15: 39
            +2
            Quote: Russ69
            , MiG factory. It’s easier to get there by car ...


            Undoubtedly, +! Lukhovitsy .. they are very close, but ... apparently there was no "command" wassat
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 20 January 2014 16: 00
              +1
              I represent in Lukhovtsy on the plane. Sur is complete.
            2. Russ69
              Russ69 20 January 2014 18: 57
              +1
              Quote: vaf
              Undoubtedly, +! Lukhovitsy .. they are very close, but ... apparently there was no "command"

              In Lukhovitsy, in the summer a crowd of correspondents was taken ...
              1. VAF
                VAF 20 January 2014 19: 14
                +3
                Quote: Russ69
                In Lukhovitsy, in the summer a crowd of correspondents was taken.


                And I was at the holiday .. just on PC-1 drinks
                1. Russ69
                  Russ69 20 January 2014 19: 21
                  +2
                  Quote: vaf
                  And I was at the holiday .. just on PC-1

                  It’s not bad, I wouldn’t refuse to visit either ...
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 20 January 2014 19: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: Russ69
                    I wouldn’t refuse to visit either ...


                    For the 60th anniversary, the entrance was free, practically. In the shops, of course, they were not allowed, but on the "observation deck" ... no problem drinks
    2. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 20 January 2014 14: 43
      +6
      I saw this show on the box though at a very inconvenient time and only once, It should act like a drug on the Aryaks, But it causes some questions, I'm glad that the Ulyanovsk people are starting to move, I'm very glad, You didn’t notice anything like that MIG no BERIEV no lower Novgorod and there is not much there, We know about Kazan and Rostov and it’s not bad, This turns out to be our entire aviation industry, There is no reason for pride, But the average man swallows it even though he didn’t see it, And the helicopter pilots are one hundred percent right if foreign buyers don’t buy a car these are cranes; there is no money to upgrade equipment and to develop new machines; to work ahead of time; here, the big problem is money and time, it has a bad habit to quickly decrease without giving a single chance, Others are not asleep too, but they can take advantage of the respite so there may be a niche that someone else was filling, such things
    3. VAF
      VAF 20 January 2014 14: 47
      +7
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      A positive article is no gloom and snot.


      "Normal" - "festive-foam" article ... "at the end of the year." Virtually nothing "filled up" .... all managers with "bonuses" ...
      And the fact that ... "jambs" full of "cart" so it has always been like this ... we will finalize in the process or take for control or trial operation, etc.
      In general, I wanted to pass "by", but then .... even went nuts and .. this is from the lips of the Commander-in-Chief belay

      Quote: "... Su-24 could hit 20-30 m from the center of the target, this aircraft solves problems at a distance of 5-7 m from the center of the target and a direct hit. Any bomb is a high-precision weapon, thanks to the equipment that is installed on the Su-34 ".

      FATEST MINUS !!! soldier I won’t even comment, because Bondarev showed his complete ignorance and ignorance !!!!

      Or is it such a "dislike" for the FBA ????
      1. VAF
        VAF 20 January 2014 15: 15
        +4
        Quote: vaf
        FATEST MINUS !!!



        But for this, or rather for this quote .... "...
        Therefore, it is very funny to hear periodic cries about the ruined defense industry and outdated technology of the Air Force. Comrades are well behind the times, do not follow the news and do not represent modern realities.


        FATEST MINUS afftoru !!! soldier

        It is clear that "riding on the ears" and "people grabbing everything" is a distinctive feature of today's ... "clicking on the bootleg" but ... not to the same degree, right the word .. wassat
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 20 January 2014 17: 23
          +2
          dear waf, the stump is clear that everything is far from ideal, but it seems to me that the article was written in the spirit of comparison with the recent past.
          And you must admit that even the quantity of aircraft delivered now is better than nothing. Just sometimes I really want optimism. I'm not talking about self-deception like the promises of various governments that everything will be fine. Nevertheless, there are advances despite the fact that our military-industrial complex has been so stubbornly destroyed, sparing no effort.
          about the "great" Po ... it's sad. I agree with you in many ways. but it seems there was already infa about ordering new MiGs. hope it will come true. God forbid that the 35s pass successfully the tests and go into operation! That and the conversation goes about 1.44. suddenly come to a decision to create a light aircraft of the 5th generation !? by the way, what do you think about this ???
          correct if I'm wrong!
          1. VAF
            VAF 20 January 2014 18: 17
            0
            Quote: silver_roman
            that everything is far from ideal, but it seems to me that the article was written in the spirit of comparison with the recent past.


            Dear Roman, but I had nothing against the article ... because I wrote the same ... everything. As always .. everything in the process.
            In that there is at least something now .. this is an unconditional plus. But I painted the reasons for this plus wink
            The first minus is a minus to the Air Force Commander for his "statements".
            Well, and the "second" is a pity that it is not given to the afftor ... for the "rainbow-foam quote" and for "those" comrades who ... well, etc. lol
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 20 January 2014 18: 26
              +1
              So what about 1.44 ??? It was infa that it was not completely "utilized" at the expense of Mikoyan and Gurevich Design Bureau. Should we expect any news along this line? what do you think?
              1. VAF
                VAF 20 January 2014 18: 40
                +5
                Quote: silver_roman
                So what about 1.44 ???


                Only at the level of "cab-kitchen" get-together drinks
                There are plans good The desire of the "people" is the same fellow what will happen next .... it remains only to guess and ... hope that ... dejavu will not happen again.
                Itself 1.44. "alive and well" (deeply preserved).
                1. silver_roman
                  silver_roman 20 January 2014 19: 22
                  0
                  in fact, what I wanted to hear! hi
        2. andr327
          andr327 20 January 2014 20: 28
          -2
          positive is needed, but enough critics! sense would be from criticism! And then everything is just "negligence"!
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 20 January 2014 17: 55
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        Any bomb is a high-precision weapon, thanks to the equipment that is installed on the Su-34. "

        FATEST MINUS !!!

        Explain in more detail pozhalsta, here not all aviators.
        1. VAF
          VAF 20 January 2014 18: 35
          +5
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Explain in more detail pozhalsta, here not all aviators.


          It is very long. Boring and .. "disgusting" (there is such a saying) wink , well, or for example, it’s to begin to explain the inconsistency of a person with an exclusively humanitarian education recourse
          This is not a reproach or banter, but quite seriously, because. in Combat, the use of ASA (aviation weapons) is a whole list of individual sciences. and not disciplines, such as for example Ballistic of ammunition, Theory of probability, Errors of the use of ammunition, etc.
          you yourself understand that even briefly talking about it is simply impossible.

          But never, you see, NEVER a simple cast iron can become an ammunition of the WTO type! soldier
          And just in case (this is for the Commander-in-Chief) "Puma" (Su-24) and "Tiger" (Su-24M), not to mention the "Hephaestus and T" (Su-24M "hefest") do not differ in any way in their application possibilities, and "Hephaestus" is superior in some ways !!! soldier
          And on the Su-24 the "cast iron" "lays down" in 000/000, like a native one .. if bombs with a caliber of 100kg and above and the ITS "brought out" all the discrepancies of the MIS and "ORBITS", which was not a problem at all before, especially for the guys from Irkutsk and Riga ... we talked about them .. "NKashniki from God).

          And so .. the good old saying is a bomb, after separation from the plane, it is uncontrollable and has a "shape" .. "brick" wassat - even incorrect Q setting or disregard of the "intermediate wind". not to mention "exceeding / lowering the target" over the terrain can lead to the fact that "brick2 can easily ... fly not only beyond 5VO, but also ..." out of the range ".

          That's where it is .. ..nsley is very simple, like ... on the fingers wink + drinks
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 20 January 2014 21: 17
            +1
            Quote: vaf
            And so .. the good old saying is a bomb, after separation from the plane, it is uncontrollable and has a "shape" .. "brick"

            Those, as I understand it, simple bombs are irrelevant in our century, well, maybe Mujahideen will be chased if they don’t snap their eyes off? In the age of technology, an airplane in the air defense zone has nothing to do, it is necessary to hammer rockets from outside the air defense? Based on the cost of the missiles, I suspect that it’s sparse with stocks, and warehouses are bombed with bombs during the war? Also, with artillery within a radius of 50 km it will be amazed. And if Georgia has gone through, then it’s not with a more serious enemy?
            1. VAF
              VAF 20 January 2014 21: 39
              +2
              Quote: Pilat2009
              Those, as I understand it, simple bombs are irrelevant in our century, well, maybe the Mujahideen will be chased if they don’t snap back


              Correctly understood, although all sorts of "bearded" can be and from the echelon where MANPADS does not reach, but here again everything just "rests" on the accuracy of the hit.
              exit only "in series" or "in one gulp".
              But it depends on what "goals" wink Because as experience shows, the application of the "carpet bombing" method does not give a special result soldier

              Quote: Pilat2009
              In the age of technology, an airplane in the air defense zone has nothing to do, do you need to hammer rockets from outside the air defense?


              They are striving for this, there is still such a wonderful thing as UAB .. the same ... it flies far wink

              Quote: Pilat2009
              Based on the cost of the missiles, I suspect that the stocks are sparse, and the warehouses are clogged with bombs during the war?


              There are no more problems with bombs from the Second World War. almost all of them were "thrown" into the First Chechen Region, and in August 2008, more "fresh" ones went ... of the M62 type and higher wink
              Quote: Pilat2009
              .And if it was a failure with Georgia, then with a more serious adversary?


              Definitely ..not soldier
              1. TSOOBER
                TSOOBER 20 January 2014 23: 24
                0
                Hello hello! hi With past drinks A couple of questions: is work in progress for a blink of 35? (And what’s heard with AFAR, infa skipped that they’re doing something like something new), and in the end there will be a contract for them, or at least a little hope for it, how the work is progressing on over-the-bus The radar on the MI-28N is soon a series! I'm sorry that off-topic articles but you rarely look request
    4. denson06
      denson06 20 January 2014 17: 03
      +3
      I agree. Well done, Victor. I myself would love to spend these 3 days and look at the technique and the heroes of labor who need to be given medals at such a pace .. and besides the medals, of course, a decent salary! hi
    5. AVV
      AVV 20 January 2014 23: 07
      0
      This is what we have been dreaming of for the last 20 years !!!
  2. svp67
    svp67 20 January 2014 10: 59
    +9
    It was expected that in three days the team of the Air Force Commander-in-Chief will visit a couple of aircraft factories. However, the result exceeded all expectations - 13 takeoffs and landings.
    At this rate, check the rest of the "economy" ... I can say one thing - this is the only way to work now ...
  3. pogis
    pogis 20 January 2014 11: 04
    +4
    The article pleased, pah, pah, pah over the left shoulder! Keep it up!
  4. standby
    standby 20 January 2014 11: 19
    +3
    Informative, interesting, to the author +! It's nice ...., but in the early 2000s, most of these enterprises stood and the prospects were depressing, and this is not only cars, but thousands of destinies that connected themselves with aviation! Changing, raking a little bit!))) The ascending vector of development and tailwinds to the vehicles! good
  5. andr327
    andr327 20 January 2014 11: 26
    +3
    The technique has gone, but with the flight and technical staff there is a problem, you cannot immediately prepare it, it will be difficult to eliminate the consequences of the "negligence" of some leaders!
  6. moremansf
    moremansf 20 January 2014 11: 35
    0
    It turns out we can when we want !!!!!!
    1. nazgul-ishe
      nazgul-ishe 20 January 2014 13: 32
      +1
      When we follow.
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  7. BOB48
    BOB48 20 January 2014 11: 41
    0
    Yes, everything is cool, but what will happen after the 20th year?
    1. nazgul-ishe
      nazgul-ishe 20 January 2014 13: 33
      0
      Airships.
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  8. dimarm74
    dimarm74 20 January 2014 12: 00
    0
    If only there was money in the budget, then everything will be fine after 2020
  9. not good
    not good 20 January 2014 12: 09
    +2
    I would like to hear the same thing about civil aviation ...
  10. dimarm74
    dimarm74 20 January 2014 12: 15
    +2
    Unfortunately, the civilian misfortune ... the darkness is complete and the gap is not visible ... you can’t get far on one SSJ .. MS-21 in the pictures only, but it seems that they no longer even talk about the long-haul one .... And the worst thing is that domestic airlines do not want to buy our planes ...
  11. Leshka
    Leshka 20 January 2014 12: 26
    +2
    it is a pity that Mig-31 does not produce order pieces 100
    1. nazgul-ishe
      nazgul-ishe 20 January 2014 13: 50
      0
      What for? To each his own suit, alcohol flask and so on. We need rockets capable of getting the adversary where necessary.
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  12. dimarm74
    dimarm74 20 January 2014 12: 30
    0
    The MiG-31 is still morally obsolete, it is necessary to build a new aircraft on its basis to solve air defense problems .... It’s bad that it is not clear with a light fighter ... they will or will not order the MiG-35 .. either they want it, then again change their mind
  13. Pacifist
    Pacifist 20 January 2014 12: 36
    +5
    And the salaries of young officers, especially pilots, are such that office clerks will burst with envy.

    I am essentially an office clerk. hi
    But I "burst" not out of envy (I never suffered much from it), but out of joy and pride that the country has finally begun to pay those who protect it with decent money. drinks
    In general, it is very good that there is a load at these plants. This is not only products for the defense industry, it is a worthy life, well-fed children, people confident in the future ... generally positive.
  14. mountain
    mountain 20 January 2014 13: 12
    +1
    As from the fields in the 80s, already breathtaking. Good article.
  15. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 20 January 2014 13: 55
    +2
    They flew or traveled, but simply would have walked more often through the factories of KB airfields, maybe something has changed.
  16. darksoul
    darksoul 20 January 2014 13: 59
    +1
    I read the article plus from beginning to end with great pleasure, for which minus the article slammed it is not clear
    1. VAF
      VAF 20 January 2014 14: 52
      +3
      Quote: darksoul
      why minus the article slammed is not clear


      I "substantiated" my minus above soldier
      1. avg
        avg 20 January 2014 16: 10
        +1
        Yes the flaws are even higher than the roof. Many are from a completely different area. But these words a few years ago did not even dream to hear:
        Says Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force Viktor Bondarev: “The plane is very serious in terms of the 4 ++ program, in the super maneuverability program. Total Su-35 purchased 48 aircraft, this year 12, next 12 and then 14 boards. 10 already exists. ”
        1. VAF
          VAF 20 January 2014 18: 47
          +2
          Quote: avg
          Says Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force Viktor Bondarev: “The plane is very serious under the 4 ++ program, under the program of super maneuverability.


          Honestly, I would be more satisfied with the "statements" on .. "the program of super-combat capability and armament" wink
          Well, 48 planes .. it's not just a drop in the ocean .. it's all ... I don’t even know how to put it. To show. What is this .. but what recourse
          Moreover, those 10 that are in GLITS and in LII are most likely to remain there. and their resource is "completely out of service" between overhauls.
          And those 12 who "rolled" from the factory to the parking lot of the regiment for trial operation .... to the state of "combat readiness" they still have ..... a very long time soldier
          1. avg
            avg 20 January 2014 22: 04
            0
            There were periods when the Air Force did not receive a single aircraft for 10-15 years. It was with this plane that everything began.
            This is about Su 34 and it's true.
            All enterprises of Russian Helicopters have completed the 2013 state defense order of the year. Exact figures were not reported, but tentatively for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the year delivered at least 112 helicopters. Production per employee of the holding increased by 12,4%, reaching 3,4 million rubles. The order book is 772 helicopter worth over 370 billion rubles. In 2013, enterprises introduced over 800 units of new equipment.
            And that too, really.
            And it’s especially good that the helicopter, in fact, is a dual-use product, and, God forbid, the growth points that appeared in the defense industry will go into civilian production. What you write from a critical point of view is also good, but one cannot help but notice the positive changes that are taking place in our aircraft industry.
            1. VAF
              VAF 20 January 2014 22: 13
              -1
              Quote: avg
              but one cannot fail to notice the positive developments that are taking place in our aircraft industry.


              Not very correctly noticed, because I look at these numbers not as numbers, but as military units. Which can be used for their main purpose. for full database maintenance in any conditions and at any time of the day!
              At one time, I had a lot and just fly and fight on "cut off" machines .. you know .. it was not a great pleasure.
              So tsifirki something like and hoo, but as a combat unit .. still "work and work."
              1. avg
                avg 20 January 2014 23: 43
                +1
                For the first time I had a chance to "smell gunpowder" in 1975 and then more than once or twice. But, not the smell of gunpowder and not the cadaverous smell did not discourage me from the desire to distinguish between other, more pleasant smells of life.
                You look at the Chinese, perhaps remember how they cooked steel throughout China and drove sparrows. If they were not patriots and optimists, they would have remained in full f ...
      2. Ustin
        Ustin 20 January 2014 16: 11
        +4
        Hello vaf! He said everything "in a line", there was a flight, but in two days to fly 6-7 points is simply frivolous, one and a half to two hours per company., Exactly in time to prepare for a second flight.
  17. tundra
    tundra 20 January 2014 15: 30
    +1
    God grant that it would all be, the TRUTH, and not another. UAV, UAV. Well, you want to believe in everything good, the workers (specialists, not guest workers, but ours) have QUALIFIED !!!!! RAOTA. The Army has ordered everything!
    1. VAF
      VAF 20 January 2014 15: 44
      +1
      Quote: tundra
      God forbid that it was all true


      So this is the TRUTH for the release of the QUANTITY, and everything else ... then it will be brought to or ... not to be brought. but it will be limited!

      And there is work, though they pay for such work .. as before. Therefore, there is not enough staff!

      The Army will also have it. that's just what is meant by the term "EVERYTHING" wink
  18. AlNick
    AlNick 20 January 2014 15: 50
    +3
    I barely read the article to the end, no applause or desire to applaud remained on the applause.
    Everything is as always, everything is fine ... am No problem!
    Typically, such articles are published for the holidays. drinks
    New Year's Eve passed, before the Defender of the Fatherland Day is still far away, maybe someone's birthday was missed. fellow
    1. VAF
      VAF 20 January 2014 18: 53
      +2
      Quote: AlNick
      New Year's Eve passed, before the Defender of the Fatherland Day is still far away, maybe someone's birthday was missed.


      For a long time, probably, the beer of "loose" water has not been tried wink ?

      remember ... how long does the "foam" settle wink It's the same here.

      you would have looked at yesterday's release of the final "News of the Week" on the RTR ... where is the foam, so the foam ... especially about the nuclear submarine belay
  19. Mihail29
    Mihail29 20 January 2014 17: 43
    +1
    A positive article, but in addition to money to the OPK and control by the Minister of Defense and generals, there is a need for control in education and in general for liberal reformers in more criminal cases with confiscation of property from the top authorities (ministers, deputies, generals and governors) and that all these processes were open.
  20. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 20 January 2014 19: 46
    +3
    This is positive! Especially the turntables! But, as many have noticed, not a word about the light fighter. Yes, and with transport workers so far "not shaky or roll." "Mr. P" was too carried away by his screwdriver "superjet".
  21. konvalval
    konvalval 20 January 2014 20: 28
    0
    Article plus. Just do not understand who is to blame for the elimination of schools that are now being restored? But they are.
  22. stranik72
    stranik72 20 January 2014 20: 37
    +3
    The level of the article, as I understand it, is the level of the Air Force Civil Code, since a person spent all this time nearby. it means not just like that. It is evident that I wanted to say something positive and said, only for whom is this article intended only for the layman of the era of the great PU.
    In January 2014, 110 years have passed since the beginning of the Russo-Japanese War, which many call the harbinger of the collapse of Ingushetia. So there, too, officials reported to the Russian tsar that we had the best artillery, that we had the best ships, that we had the best preparation for wars. The war ended in disgrace for RI. That's the same thing today and the BBC tried to paint a blissful picture for the electorate. Only now it does not work, you cannot fight much on the Yak-130, it is not for these purposes, the SU-35 is not and is unlikely to be what the Air Force wants to see it, the Su-30 is an aircraft at the level of the latest F-15s and no more. About long-range aviation, which is strategic, it will soon not fly farther than its airfield area (with engines for the TU-22 M3 and TU-160), about the transport, and it will be able to earn something, but it is unlikely to transfer the airborne division to another theater of operations whether. About helicopters, if about Ulan-Ude, then these helicopters (in the series for 40 years already) with a small modernization of avionics, they do not solve the problem of the battlefield. We do not have a combat helicopter of the Apache level, the KA-52 is not a combat helicopter, the Mi-28 is still very raw and already outdated. Gentlemen, where is the money and what we spend on, than we will scare the foe. With such "approvals" you will not fly far, one hope that the Strategic Missile Forces still exist. It's a pity that GK looks like a sucker for this article in the eyes of professionals.
    1. VAF
      VAF 20 January 2014 20: 46
      0
      Quote: stranik72
      The level of the article, as I understand it


      Zhenya good Huge plus! drinks
    2. igor67
      igor67 20 January 2014 23: 19
      0
      Quote: stranik72
      The level of the article, as I understand it, is the level of the Air Force Civil Code, since a person spent all this time nearby. it means not just like that. It is evident that I wanted to say something positive and said, only for whom is this article intended only for the layman of the era of the great PU.
      In January 2014, 110 years have passed since the beginning of the Russo-Japanese War, which many call the harbinger of the collapse of Ingushetia. So there, too, officials reported to the Russian tsar that we had the best artillery, that we had the best ships, that we had the best preparation for wars. The war ended in disgrace for RI. That's the same thing today and the BBC tried to paint a blissful picture for the electorate. Only now it does not work, you cannot fight much on the Yak-130, it is not for these purposes, the SU-35 is not and is unlikely to be what the Air Force wants to see it, the Su-30 is an aircraft at the level of the latest F-15s and no more. About long-range aviation, which is strategic, it will soon not fly farther than its airfield area (with engines for the TU-22 M3 and TU-160), about the transport, and it will be able to earn something, but it is unlikely to transfer the airborne division to another theater of operations whether. About helicopters, if about Ulan-Ude, then these helicopters (in the series for 40 years already) with a small modernization of avionics, they do not solve the problem of the battlefield. We do not have a combat helicopter of the Apache level, the KA-52 is not a combat helicopter, the Mi-28 is still very raw and already outdated. Gentlemen, where is the money and what we spend on, than we will scare the foe. With such "approvals" you will not fly far, one hope that the Strategic Missile Forces still exist. It's a pity that GK looks like a sucker for this article in the eyes of professionals.

      In our 80s, a repair shop was built at a repair shop in the 22s, that is, an engine for a XNUMX m long vehicle was brought in and the Union collapsed, and that's why I write this, it’s not enough to create and produce new equipment, at the same time a repair technology and repair base are being created , without this, the planes do not fly much, the resource will quickly be used up.
  23. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov 20 January 2014 22: 43
    0
    Excellent article.
    A lot of positive. As usual.
    Why just ignored a certain factory VASO, which is also still part of the KLA?
    And which is actually being closed to please Ulyanovsk.
    "Thunder of victory, resound!" - it's great.
    But my friends are sitting now and are seriously thinking whether to agree to move to Ulyanovsk, or how. Because for some reason not everything is so rosy and beautiful at their native enterprise. Of course, the big uncles at the top know better whether the figs are there, the aircraft factory is not needed - and to hell with it.
    But it's a shame. The pride of the city and all that. IL-2, Tu-144, IL-86, IL-76 ...
  24. vikov
    vikov 21 January 2014 03: 13
    0
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