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What is difficult to see for Rosnano?

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In the third year of Rosnano’s chairmanship, Anatoly Chubais, Ph.D. in Economics and a former member of the CPSU, became a shareholder in Rosnano Management Company LLC. Chubais now holds about 1% of the company's shares. On the one hand, for Anatoly Borisovich, it’s a mere trifle, but on the other hand, such a “trifle” shows that the Russian economy continues to move along the active privatization path, not turning away from it even when the main foreign ideologists of the free market are increasingly having thoughts about justification of the complete withdrawal of the state from the economic sector. In the Russian case, privatization continues to remain a sacred cow, which is brought up on grazing by the main government and near-government economists.


What is difficult to see for Rosnano?


Someone will say that soon there will be nothing to privatize - all state production will be in private hands. Oh? Will go alone - others will be formed. After all, Rosnano itself did not exist before 2007, so they came up with the same. First, they invented it, then they made a design in the status of a state company with more than a significant investment of financial resources, and now you can start a little bit (at least by 1%) to bite off a large pie, creating an expanded LLC system. “Rosnano” is a precedent, and since the reducing physical prefixes (SI prefixes) are still full, then after the full privatization of the said office, similar processes can follow with some open Rosfemto or Rozepto with initially state capital.

Recall that the company "Rosnano", headed by Anatoly Chubais ", not so long ago adopted a whole strategy of" development "to 2020 year. According to this strategy, the controlling stake (2015% + 50 share) of the Rosnano management company should pass into the hands of private “investors” by 1. At the same time, a completely remarkable thing is indicated in the strategy: the transfer of a controlling stake in the hands of private traders should take place only if the total revenue from sales of Rosnano products is about 300 billion rubles. If Rosnano does not reach such a level of revenues by the year 2015, then the company along with the controlling stake will remain in the bosom of Rosimushchestvo. An interesting thing is that if corporate profits remain low, then the company is left to the state - they say, let it go further, and let it continue to allocate investment funds; but as soon as the company's profit grows, Rosnano will immediately go into private hands. An interesting option, is not it? And why should private investors, if Rosnano in the end be anyway privatized, initially did not go the other way - to invest large-scale in order to then fairly earn the earned profit. But no - a large investor wants the state to take the company through all the risks thanks to budget investments, and then presented it on a silver platter ...

It is precisely because economic risks remain that “investors” (such as Anatoly Chubais himself, for example) are now very careful in acquiring stakes in the company - 1% ... To make a small reserve for the future, as they say, if the company is really “ fire ”, and not to lose a lot, if Rosnano finally goes to the bottom (with an ax) after privatization.

Speaking with a lecture at Skolkovo (another megaproject), Chubais complained that private business is showing a very weak interest in innovation. According to Anatoly Borisovich, it is precisely this that holds back the development of the innovation segment of the Russian economy.

Well, so be it. The very same Anatoly Chubais and accustomed the maximum percentage of representatives of Russian business to the fact that you need to have time to grab here and now - to rise on oil, gas, electricity sales, and other energy sources. Who will now take this and put his “blood” into some kind of nanoprojects there? .. It’s better to cut the profit on what’s lying really badly and not wait a decade until the high-precision equipment factory pays off for the full-fledged work somewhere else you need to find skilled workers and engineering personnel.

But another possible reason for the fact that private business is not eager to invest in an “innovative” economy is Anatoly Chubais himself. At the mere mention of this name, many investors instinctively put their hands in their pockets to check if at least some bills remained in the wallet, and whether another “voucher” appeared instead of them, for which you can buy the “next” “Volga” ...

From the fact that such personalities as the current head of Rosnano continue to remain at a sufficiently close distance from the authorities, many Russians still live in their heads the thought that the entire Russian economy is a soap bubble, that nothing is built in Russia for years 20, at a minimum, and that the only filler of the budget is the sale of raw materials abroad. Well, the vitality of such an idea is quite understandable, because for a number of years the Russian industry was in a very poor condition, working exclusively at the expense of the Soviet personnel and technological resource base. It is also understandable because the well-known predatory privatization took a rink through many sectors of the country's economy, in effect creating an oligarchic class in the country at the expense of popular funds. Yes, the problem of concentrating huge capitals, obviously acquired by criminal or semi-criminal means, in the hands of a very limited circle of people, is a problem that is acute for Russia. But only for Russia? In any developed or developing country in the world, there is a “mighty handful,” which has taken over the levers of economic management to transfer the lion’s share of profits under its control. The entire modern economic system (market system) is built on this very foundation.

Is this the reason to say that only industrial ruins remain in Russia, that no industrial enterprises are being built, that industrial associations with both private and state capital are not formed? For some, perhaps, the reason, but you still need to separate the flies from cutlets. Yes - many business representatives are accustomed to collecting cream exclusively from commodity projects, which bring huge profits almost immediately after investments. But there are those people who are willing to invest in the industrial sector, in construction, in infrastructure development. There are they that may seem incredible to someone, and in the system of government. By what criteria can this be understood? Yes, at least according to the information on the commissioning of new industrial enterprises. Of course, this information is fundamentally contrary to the opinions of those who believe that in recent years only such dubious desks as Rosnano or Skolkovo have opened, but it's time to start looking at things not only through the prism of Chubais or Gaidar reforms, no matter how destructive for the economy they were at one time.

So, does any kind of production open up in Russia, does the construction of factories take place, do jobs at these factories be provided? Opened, built, provided! Is it the only media talking about this? Many media outlets have a completely different, let's say, trend. Now, if explosions, upheavals, suicide, rallies or something like that, we would see it on the front pages, and this (the material is presented below) is unlikely to pay heightened attention - again “unformat”.

Some summary of 2013 of the year:

Vologda Region. Opened enterprise for the production of high quality lumber. A plant for growing planting material with a fully closed root system was commissioned. More 950 jobs.

Makhachkala. Opening of the plant aerated concrete blocks. More than a hundred new jobs for the republic.



Saransk. Opened hot dip galvanizing shop at 100 workplaces.



Voronezh region. Transformer production has been opened for the railway industry. Opened meat processing plant. The construction of a bio-waste recycling plant is nearing completion. The construction of a machine-tool factory, two sugar and two dairy plants. Started construction of a tire factory. The total number of jobs - more than 2,5 thousands.

Chechen Republic. Opened enterprise for the production of electric meters. The planned number of jobs is 200.

Tomsk region. The development of a production line for the manufacture of fuel rods (fuel elements).

Yaroslavskaya oblast. Opening a pharmaceutical company.

Vladimir region. A new-generation motherboard manufacturing plant has been opened.

Ivanovo. Opening of the new industrial complex IPZ (Ivanovsky Parachute Plant).

Tomsk. Russia's first factory for the production of communication format stations 4G.

Moscow region. The production of lighting equipment based on LED lamps.

St. Petersburg. The line for the creation of optical equipment and component base has been launched.

The list goes on. In total, over 2013 a year in the Russian Federation more than 200 new factories, factories, workshops and production lines of various directions (from agricultural to high-precision) were opened. And we only say that about the economic strangeness of “Rosnano” and “Skolkovo” ... But there are many reasons for positive discussion.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 20 January 2014 09: 25
    +20
    What "nano"?
    It's like "modernization" in Perm, where liberal economists have proposed to "diversify, develop and modernize" the economy of the region, picking mushrooms, "a necessary product, etc. with great prospects.
    What is visible? Much, but all is not what they should see from them.
    Rather, from those such as Chubais, one can see exactly what is expected of them from their actions ...
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 January 2014 09: 41
      +86
      In my opinion, the author has something not quite. Mr. Volodin presents TINY production with such pathos, as if they built GAZ or Magnitogorsk. I have already written about the construction of such a plant in new Moscow. Around the clock, in three shifts and as many as 45 jobs including But in the newspaper there is a whole page of admiration. Soon we will "eat up" the remnants of Soviet production and that's it, we can't raise the economy at such candle factories. Will we collect tanks in car services?
      Chubais was even reluctant to discuss. Faster, he would wear the last suit in which there are no pockets and two meters in depth.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 20 January 2014 09: 48
        +20
        That's it, the scale of the fruits is not compatible with the costs, and the advanced technologies are clearly not the same.
        And the "pharmaceutical enterprise" in the Yaroslavl region was built by the Israeli "Teva" - I am sure, then the details will come out - it turns out that the plant is only "aspirin" using new technology ("green") - it produces that they overpaid, but as a result, that it AT ALL NOT NEEDED!
        1. edwardakopov1
          edwardakopov1 20 January 2014 10: 05
          +3
          How to find out? THE QUESTION IS INTERESTING. WHAT, IN THE COUNTRY CONSTRUCTING AN ORDER ATOMIC REACTORS, WERE NOT ABLE TO START?
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 20 January 2014 15: 44
          +15
          Quote: mirag2
          it turns out that the plant is just "aspirin" using the new technology ("green") - it produces that it was overpaid, but as a result, it was NOT NEEDED AT ALL!


          A cultured person will never say: “We are cutting the people's loot,” he will say: “We are developing nanotechnology.” These are factories and the example you mentioned is more likely banana technologies used to rob countries of the so-called. third world. this is another Chubais joke as well as a voucher. Only voucherisation bore the code name "Naebusiness" and Rusnano is already a project "Proebusiness". The purpose of the project is the waste of budget (less often - sponsorship) funds. The result is so small and imperceptible, and the costs and PR are so high and deep that they turn a rather ordinary project into an expensive large-scale NANOPROJECT.
          Small spools and roads are not expensive in terms of quality and need, but in terms of high cost and cost-intensive budget funds. That’s what Rusnano is and the Skolkovo project.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 20 January 2014 18: 10
            +1
            Board of Directors "Rosnano" intends to terminate the powers of Anatoly Chubais ahead of schedule

            The Board of Directors of Rosnano OJSC 28 January plans to make a decision on the early termination of the powers of the chairman of the board of the company Anatoly Chubais and their transfer to the management company (MC), Interfax reports with reference to the press service of the company. The council will also consider the company's business plan for the year up to 2020, determine the candidates nominated for election to the governing bodies of the Criminal Code.
            merchant.ru
            http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2388176
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 19: 01
              +7
              Quote: Sid.74
              plans to decide on the early termination of office of the chairman of the board of the company Anatoly Chubais

              Where will the fate of dashing this penguin lifter be thrown? Where else do people sleep peacefully, not knowing what kind of misfortune awaits them? Two Tolyans and their son, defective Dmitry Anatolyevich, DEFECTIVE managers, their mother. am
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 20 January 2014 19: 10
                +5
                Better his course on the bench or the forest to bring down to Siberia!
                By the way, the law will come out that the relatives of the bureaucrats who live outside of Russia are automatically closing the prospects for climbing the career ladder! Oh how!
              2. ABV
                ABV 21 January 2014 02: 26
                +7
                will not throw it anywhere ... Chubais resigns before. of the Board of OJSC "Rusnano" and becomes the head and owner of 1% of shares of the Management Company "Rusnano". Like this! and in the media, the news is presented that Chubais is being fired from Rusnano ... that's how they powder our brains!
                1. Sid.74
                  Sid.74 21 January 2014 11: 41
                  0
                  Quote: ABV
                  wherever he flings ...

                  Unfortunately you are right ...

                  Anatoly Chubais will head RUSNANO MC
                  January 20 2014
                  Statement of the press service of OJSC RUSNANO on the basis of disclosing the agenda of the meeting of the Board of Directors of the company appointed to 28.01.2014
                  As part of the information disclosure procedure of RUSNANO, 20.01.2014 of the year announced the contents of the agenda of the meeting of the Board of Directors of RUSNANO, appointed to 28.01.2014.

                  The meeting of the Board of Directors will consider issues related to the implementation of the new strategy of RUSNANO, which involves the separation of the functions of ownership of assets and their management. In December, 2013 was established Limited Liability Company RUSNANO Management Company, which will take over the asset management function.

                  The Board of Directors of OJSC RUSNANO will consider the transfer of powers of the Chairman of the Board of OJSC RUSNANO to the Management Company of RUSNANO, in which Anatoly Chubais will take the post of Chairman of the Board. Accordingly, the authority of Anatoly Chubais as Chairman of the Board of RUSNANO OJSC will be terminated.

                  During the first quarter of 2014, other employees of OJSC RUSNANO will be transferred to the staff of the new structure.
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            2. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 21 January 2014 05: 42
              0
              Quote: Sid.74
              Board of Directors "Rosnano" intends to terminate the powers of Anatoly Chubais ahead of schedule

              The Board of Directors of Rosnano OJSC 28 January plans to make a decision on the early termination of the powers of the chairman of the board of the company Anatoly Chubais and their transfer to the management company (MC), Interfax reports with reference to the press service of the company. The council will also consider the company's business plan for the year up to 2020, determine the candidates nominated for election to the governing bodies of the Criminal Code.
              merchant.ru
              http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2388176

              Rusnano is drained as unnecessary - those in power have a new toy:
          2. 225chay
            225chay 20 January 2014 20: 15
            +6
            Aha! "Nanotechnology: We drill nano-holes in nano-nuts, and put a nanobolt in nano-holes" ... The one in the photo in the hands of the LADY
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 20 January 2014 22: 41
              +3
              Quote: 225chay
              Aha! "Nanotechnology: We drill nano-holes in nano-nuts, and put a nanobolt in nano-holes" ... The one in the photo in the hands of the LADY

              And I liked the list of launched production
              Voronezh region. Opened meat factory.

              Is it there that NANO COWS will be cut, or NANO what is attached there to? what
      2. edwardakopov1
        edwardakopov1 20 January 2014 10: 02
        +14
        APPROVED! BUT IN THE BEGINNING OF ITS FINAL WAY, TO MEET WITH THE COMRADOR, IN A COUPLE WITH WHICH THEY BANKED 99% OF THE POPULATION OF THE USSR, LET GET DIAMONDS IN YAKUTIA. BUT ONLY A LARGE SHOVEL!
        1. unclevad
          unclevad 20 January 2014 11: 31
          +12
          Chubais with the help of nanotechnology can only develop something invisible to the eye for the crazy money of taxpayers. To paraphrase the title of the tale: "he will do that, I don't know what, but the people will send it there, I don't know where ..."
          VLADIMIR KVACHKOV'S LONG YEARS OF LIFE!
          1. S-200
            S-200 20 January 2014 17: 31
            +10
            Quote: unclevad
            VLADIMIR KVACHKOV'S LONG YEARS OF LIFE!

            You really think that EVERYTHING is in Chubais (Serdyukov, Medvedev) ?
            He, man - SYSTEMS ...
            They won’t put him - another !
            The system must be changed ... rotted in utero from the moment of conception !
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 20 January 2014 18: 35
              +3
              Quote: S-200
              Do you really think that EVERYTHING is in Chubais (Serdyukov, Medvedev)?
              He, man - SYSTEMS ...
              There will not be him, they will put it - another!
              The system must be changed ... rotted in utero from the moment of conception!

              Well, our constitution is not so bad, this is the system, and the fact that systemic abuses are to blame for these individuals + who "cooperates" with them, no one hopes with the elimination of one Chubais everything will change, but for me and many it will be a systemic shift in the country after which there will be real hope. I agree with Stalin: Cadres decide everything. Didn't watch it until the end, but it seems to be in the subject
        2. jagdpanzer
          jagdpanzer 20 January 2014 19: 49
          +1
          I would add a FOOTWEAR! repeat
      3. baltika-18
        baltika-18 20 January 2014 10: 12
        +22
        Quote: ele1285
        In my opinion, the author has something not quite

        Alexey, Promavtomatika employs 25 people in Chechnya.
        Ivanovo (parachute factory), the former 3rd sewing company, leading its history since 1924. It was simply taken from the center to the outskirts, to the industrial zone. Their products are normal for the army, athletes. But the salaries are not high at the enterprise, 15-20 thousand .
        Do not trust the site "made by us" too much.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 10: 20
          .
          Quote: baltika-18
          Do not trust the site "made by us" too much.

          Refute this Old, if you can, go ahead!
          Judging by the minuses to the article, many are very dissatisfied with the opening of new enterprises in the country. And they may not believe that new industries are opening. Well, this info does not fit into the stereotype - the plants are closing, there is nothing new laughing
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 10: 32
            +19
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Refute this Old, if you can, go ahead!

            One mine was opened, and how many were closed. And how many are going. This is Kuzbass. Do I upload data on Vorkuta?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 10: 40
              +1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              One mine was opened, and how many were closed. And how much are going

              Igor, and to whom do the mines belong? Who to ask from Putin or from those clowns that they are led, led?
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              On Vorkuta lay out the data?

              Come on
              1. major1976
                major1976 20 January 2014 14: 49
                +10
                My impression is that you live on the Moon or Mars, Alexander !!! But not in Russia! Optimism is good! Optimist himself! I believe in a bright future! But the present is trying to kill faith !!! Is it still not clear that the President is a patriot and a strong man with charisma but a bad manager! About which some of the oligarchs know such that he cannot touch them !!! Therefore, Chubais is still alive and at FREEDOM !!!
                1. major1976
                  major1976 20 January 2014 15: 06
                  +2
                  I read all the comments on the article! Read satisfied!
          2. Lapotnik
            Lapotnik 20 January 2014 10: 45
            +19
            They are dissatisfied not with the fact of the discovery, but with the incomparability of investments in "nano and skolkovo" and in new production. All of the above production, I think, will not pull even 5% of the money invested in Rusnano and Skolkovo. In addition, Russian money is being invested in these black holes, but whose new farms and factories are being built on is a big question.

            If you remove red and skolkovo from the article, then there will be some pluses, and so, against their background ... How a mockery is such a comparison.
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          4. baltika-18
            baltika-18 20 January 2014 11: 14
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Do not trust the site "made by us" too much.
            Refute this Old, if you can, go ahead!

            Why? Let them earn. The site "made by us" came out of the Art Motor office (web studio). This office cooperated with K.'s management So this is another powerful project. Roma Kovrigin has several more directions, "Project Russia", for example, Roma He is very concerned about finding enemies (a set of standard "insidious State Department, vague Anglo-Saxons, liberals of all stripes) and friends" Novy Rubezh "," Young Guard ", ONF, etc.
            I don’t believe projects. To each his own.
            Internet warrior Roma Kovrigin.
            1. Fin
              Fin 20 January 2014 11: 37
              +3
              Quote: baltika-18
              Why? Let them earn. The site "made by us" left the office

              Nikolai, Romanov asked another question. Refute what is written on the site for example this article: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/45774/
              Or all the nonsense?
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 21
              +5
              Quote: baltika-18
              This office collaborated with management K

              Many, including the opposition, are cooperating with K management laughing
              Quote: baltika-18
              What for?

              But shoby not be unfounded.
              Quote: baltika-18
              . So this is another power project. Roma Kovrigin has several more directions,

              Good, but you show me where the information he laid out on open enterprises, re-equipment and other things is FALSE, be so kind. Your personal hostility towards a person is understandable, but I don’t understand why you draw conclusions on this.
              1. matross
                matross 20 January 2014 16: 00
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Many people work with K

                And for someone to "cooperate" and even "with management" is a direct shameful fact of the biography, blush and wash your hands every five minutes! Either they wring their hands, that there is only one chernukha and no one opposes it, or if positive examples appear, then "candle factories" are nonsense, give us Magnitka and Dneproges! Well, when something large-scale will be, "DneproGES" will be built on the Moon and water will be delivered for it, they will write - garbage, it will soon fall apart, they have forgotten how to build, the concrete is not the same, but the Tajiks were building ... In short, a half-empty glass!
              2. baltika-18
                baltika-18 20 January 2014 16: 02
                +7
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                . Your personal hostility to a person is understandable, but I don’t understand why you are drawing conclusions on this.

                I also build conclusions on the following: "Poliom" LLC, suppose (I took the first one that came from the recommended site)
                Quote: Fin
                Refute what is written on the site for example this article: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/45774/

                stands and works, but does not belong to us. The Cypriot company Lengville Limited. Ah, offshore, again offshore. There is so much more to dig. This site is designed for those who do not think. Well said ele 1285, I will paraphrase it a little "a lot of pathos , gentlemen. "
                1. matross
                  matross 20 January 2014 17: 03
                  +4
                  Since the 2008 of the year, a plant of the German company Adam Opel AG, owned by the American GM, has been operating in the suburbs of Petersburg, with about 1200 Russian specialists. Question: is the plant Russian, German or American?
                  1. Ivan.
                    Ivan. 20 January 2014 17: 26
                    +3
                    Quote: matRoss
                    Since 2008, a plant of the German company Adam Opel AG has been operating in the suburbs of Petersburg owned by American GM

                    Quote: matRoss
                    Question: is the plant Russian, German or American?

                    And the question is what? laughing
                    1. matross
                      matross 20 January 2014 17: 46
                      +1
                      I appreciate your humor. I had in mind that in a global economy, the ultimate beneficiary is certainly important, but no less important is who benefits from the existence of production. In this case, high-tech production gives work, knowledge and skills, and final products to our people. Well, revenues to the regional budget too ...
                      1. Ivan.
                        Ivan. 20 January 2014 18: 25
                        +7
                        Quote: matRoss
                        In this case, high-tech production gives work, knowledge and skills, and final products to our people. Well, revenues to the regional budget too ...

                        Weak consolation, firstly it’s not going to get into the budget anymore, it’s probably less so that they built on our territory to reduce import duties, and secondly it’s most likely an assembly of parts produced abroad. I agree that this is better than nothing but there’s nothing to be especially happy about.
                      2. Luzhichanin
                        Luzhichanin 20 January 2014 20: 37
                        0
                        Duc basically open production, but the owners are increasingly non-Russian, but they are closing - the owners are more often Russian :)))
                      3. Luzhichanin
                        Luzhichanin 21 January 2014 14: 15
                        0
                        an impressive minus, visible from the Marshal, but nonetheless, the fact remains.
                        Now, for example, enterprises of the military-industrial complex and other Rosconcerns are withdrawing their production capacities from our ... rubber city, you see, they couldn’t find a place there ... despite the rubber breakthrough.
                        so, is it possible to consider the transfer of mass production from the center to the periphery? But they’re not just transferred, but also re-equipped.
                        I agree that it is easier to create new industries from scratch than to reconstruct old ones, the main problem in this case is not equipment, but fixed assets, and in the case of Moscow it will cost a pretty penny.
                        but this is not the opening of new industries.
                        so my previous post reflects reality: indeed, if you do not consider the transfer of production from the center to the periphery, it turns out that the new ones are opened, mostly not Russians, but mostly Russians!
              3. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 18: 41
                +6
                Quote: matRoss
                Question: is the plant Russian, German or American?

                Who owned American plantations, plantations or blacks? After all, blacks did not just work, they were fed. Substitution of concepts.
                1. matross
                  matross 20 January 2014 19: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  , plantationists or blacks

                  In fact, it doesn’t matter. They worked for the US economy. The Opel plant works for the Russian economy. Well, on the American and German capitalists. There is no way without it. We are not like that - such a system. Although, if he worked for the Russian capitalists, nothing would have changed for the Russian economy.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 20: 05
                    +6
                    Quote: matRoss
                    They worked for the US economy.

                    I keep chickens for meat and eggs. And they work for my well-being. They also think that the chicken house belongs to them. laughing
                    Quote: matRoss
                    Although, if he worked for the Russian capitalists, nothing would have changed for the Russian economy.

                    It all depends on where the capitalist invests. If in the development of production and the improvement of working conditions, this is one thing. And if it withdraws money to offshore, then this is different. Now our capitalists are no better than foreign capital; de facto profits are being transferred abroad, both private and state. hi
                  2. matross
                    matross 20 January 2014 20: 54
                    +2
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I keep chickens for meat and eggs. And they work for my well-being. They also think that the chicken house belongs to them.

                    I have already answered. You can think of a lot of funny examples "on the topic". Either you don’t understand the answer, that it’s sad, or you want to practice your wit, which is boring. By the way, are your chickens happy with life? Or would you also like to criticize the authorities? Doesn't require investment in repairing a chicken coop? Or joining a neighboring chicken coop? Or maybe they, oh horror! still trying to teach you agricultural poultry farming?
                  3. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 21: 27
                    +4
                    Quote: matRoss
                    . By the way, are your chickens happy with your life?

                    Of course we are satisfied, for they do not know another life. And to comprehend the fatality of their existence is not in power, because of stupidity. And judging by the educational reforms, the next generation of people will also have problems understanding their existence. Yes, and now many - work, beer, series. for there is no strength in the theater after an exhausting working day. Going to the theater is a privilege of planters. Do you see the logical chain? Honor the fascists' plans for politics in the occupied territories, almost the one in the same matches. And in demography, and in education, and in culture.
                    Quote: matRoss
                    Or maybe they, oh horror! still trying to teach you agricultural poultry?
                    The rooster is trying. And so in the spring I will deal with him as they did with the opposition during the time of Ivan the Terrible. And I will get more loyal to my power. laughing
                  4. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 20 January 2014 21: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    And judging by the education reforms, the next generations of people will also have problems understanding their existence.

                    However, not all...
                  5. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 21: 50
                    +2
                    Plantation managers.
                2. matross
                  matross 21 January 2014 01: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Going to the theater is a privilege of planters. Do you see the logical chain?

                  I see. Can not argue. hi
                  PS An opportunist rooster, of course, is a pity, but this is not the case to undermine the foundations and pervert the canons. In boiling water heretic! laughing
                  PPS We figured out the politics, but I believe that everyone has their own opinion on the economy. Which is not so bad. At least in terms of the presence of this very opinion. hi
              4. Ascetic
                Ascetic 20 January 2014 21: 53
                +4
                Quote: matRoss
                Or joining a neighboring chicken coop?


                Probably require joining a neighbor's cock smile
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 17: 38
      +3
      Quote: baltika-18
      costs and works, but it doesn’t belong to us. The Cyprus company Lengville Limited. Ah, offshore, offshore again

      And what, how does this change the veracity of the Sait? Spread the topic, where lies, it says that over half a year more than 300 enterprises and workshops were opened, where FALSE ???
      Quote: baltika-18
      "a lot of pathos, gentlemen."

      But isn’t it pathetic to say that they’re not building anything new. The article was not a long time ago from the series EVERYTHING was blown away, why didn’t you say that there was too much pathos? Is Kolya not one-sided?
      2. In the Nizhny Novgorod region, the opening of a new workshop for the production of table and household knives
      3. In the Astrakhan region launched a waste sorting complex
      4. In the Chelyabinsk region opened a gold recovery factory
      5. Russia's first 4G communication station factory opened in Tomsk
      6. A plant for the production of planed sawn timber joint venture Arkaim has opened in the Khabarovsk Territory
      7.In Melenki (Vladimir region) a new workshop for the production of cast and sewing shoes was opened
      8.In the Voronezh region opened a meat factory
      9. A new workshop has been opened in the Tyumen house-building company
      There is a list of hundreds of new industries, refute wink
      1. rolik
        rolik 20 January 2014 22: 31
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There is a list of hundreds of new productions

        I want to add a bit of local information))))
        At the construction site of the new Arkhangelsk PPM semi-cellulose workshop, the installation of the Andritz digester and zero cycle work was completed. Currently, the installation of metal structures of the first tier of the main building and the administrative building continues, as well as the reinforcement and concreting of the floor slab mark + 11,00 m.
        A contract for the construction of a new semi-cellulose plant at APPM worth 2,7 billion rubles. was signed in March 2012
        The capacity of the new production will be 1000 tons of semi-cellulose per day.
        The commissioning of the workshop will minimize the cost of producing cardboard and base paper for corrugation, increase their quality characteristics and significantly reduce the cost of production, including by reducing the consumption of wood raw materials. In 2014, the volume of investments in modernization and reconstruction projects of OJSC Arkhangelsk PPM will amount to 4,6 billion rubles. As Managing Director Maxim Sokolov stated in an interview with Interfax, next year the company will launch investment projects worth 6,8 billion rubles. These include the completion of construction and commissioning of two facilities from scratch - a half-cellulose workshop (2,7 billion rubles), a multi-fuel recovery boiler for the joint burning of sewage sludge and bark and wood waste Metso Power Oy (1,5 billion . rub.). As well as the completion of reconstruction and modernization of facilities, including pulp production (washing plant, Alfa Laval centrifuge) and cardboard production (KDM-1).
        I look forward to when it will also be called banana production))))))
        1. jjj
          jjj 21 January 2014 07: 58
          +1
          Things are not bad in Koryazhma either. But in Arkhangelsk, from Solombala to the Second Sawmill, all timber processing industries are in one interesting place. Is it only the Swedes who got the hang of making wood pellets - wood pellets - and drive them to the hausen by steamers
          1. rolik
            rolik 21 January 2014 12: 08
            +1
            Quote: jjj
            But in Arkhangelsk, from Solombala to the Second Timber Mill, all timber processing industries are in one interesting place

            I agree. Lenin went bankrupt, Sulfate stands (the boilers were extinguished)
            Well, 26, 25 work fine. By the way, 25 is also "Titan" (APPM), the second I do not know how it works.
            That's what I’m talking about, there weren’t normal governors in Arkhar. They appointed this Orlov, instead of Mikhalchuk, so under him both Sulfate and Lenin were covered. Responsibility lies with the local authorities.
            It must be understood that the same GDP does not always know what its governors are doing. I am sure that reports and reports go to Moscow in the most pink color. For this, first of all, it is necessary to ask the government.
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    3. Fin
      Fin 20 January 2014 18: 07
      0
      Quote: baltika-18
      it costs and works, but it doesn’t belong to us. The Cyprus company Lengville Limited. Ah, offshore, offshore again. You can dig so much more

      I will continue: 1. People are standing and working for them, get paid, feed families, raise children, etc.
      2. But the trouble is, it belongs to a Cyprus company !!! Urgently everyone quit, let's not let the capitalists profit from us !!!!
      So which is better, 1 or 2 option?
      Quote: baltika-18
      After all, this site is designed for those who do not think.

      Well, tell us what you thought of this article, it's very interesting, otherwise only half of them are shouting "hurray".
    4. Ascetic
      Ascetic 20 January 2014 21: 50
      +2
      Quote: baltika-18
      but we don’t own. The Cyprus company Lengville Limited. Ah, offshore, offshore again.


      Founder Cyprus company. But really belongs
      FAS Russia approved the deal on sale of a 50% stake in Omsk Polypropylene Plant LLC (Titan Group) to Sibgazpolymer CJSC in St. Petersburg. The cost of the transaction is estimated by analysts at 7-8 billion rubles. The new co-owner of the Omsk plant is affiliated with OJSC Sibur Holding and a subsidiary of OJSC Gazprom Neft - LLC Gazpromneftfinance
      According to Kartoteka.ru, 50% of ZAO Sibgazpolimer belongs to OAO Sibur Holding and 50% belongs to OOO Gazpromneftfinance (a subsidiary of OAO Gazprom Neft).

      So the headquarters - and they are gradually withdrawing from offshore companies through the purchase of shares and credit pressure. Vnesheconombank’s lawsuit against Lengville Limited is known. Loan non-payment.
      Resolution of the Federal Antimonopoly Service of the Ural District dated 05.12.2012 No. F09-11911 / 12 (Appendix No. 11), where the court also concluded that the taxpayer's debt to the Security Council of the Russian Federation, secured by pledge of shares owned by a foreign borrower with a share in the authorized capital of the latter more than 20% is controlled and the rules of clause 2, Article 269 apply to interest accrued on it. XNUMX ​​of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation.

      Thus, the current judicial practice confirms that the amount of interest on a loan agreement with a Russian bank to a taxpayer affiliated with a surety represented by a foreign organization should be taken into account as expenses, subject to the provisions of paragraph 2 of Article 269 ​​of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation.
      So transactions on loans through foreign offshore companies are controlled by the TAX LEGISLATION of the Russian Federation.
  2. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 18: 36
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Many, including the opposition, are cooperating with K management

    The main "evidence base" on Kvachkov was collected just by the "K" department. This "collaboration" cost him 18 years. hi
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 20 January 2014 21: 21
    +4
    Quote: baltika-18
    .This office collaborated with management K


    At one time I also had a pass to the "K" department. And I also collaborated with the GRU General Staff
    "K-500 object" is a pretty nice peaceful organization. So now I have to beat my head against a wall? Bloody gebnya and the servant of Putin's regime? Take it easy on people who are really concerned with state security.
  • rolik
    rolik 20 January 2014 22: 16
    +2
    Quote: baltika-18
    . So this is another power project.

    As I understand it, everything that is written and photographed there, computer graphics)))))
  • Asgard
    Asgard 20 January 2014 17: 16
    +13
    Alex for what minuses picked up (like You Sasha))) which he compared with the thieves' corporation "Rusnano" UNSURPOSE production for the economy of the STATE ....
    The same factory opened in Kostomuksha(Aerated concrete blocks)) and the hangar even looks like the only innovation, there is a SHAKING TABLE (vibrating))) under the Steel tabletop a motor is mounted with asymmetrically stolen rails fixed from a closed quarry))))
    That shakes the country that closed a quarry for a thousand workers, and created a hangar for 50 people ....

    What does Chubais have to do with it, well, probably DIRECTLY, nothing to do with, and the site "doneUnas" also a good resource-which sees the MICROSCOPIC successes of the economy-the construction of boats, dairy production, "candle" factories, 10 planes and six helicopters, which were driven across the country by SELF-PROPELLED (few people paid attention to THIS)))put in the womb of "Ruslan" ....

    Well, what can you write here, Volodin’s mistake(do not judge strictly)) Romanov, he’s such a DEFENDER OF AUTHORITY(someone should oppose common sense)))
    otherwise there will be no discussion, although I have long been on the resource, I foresee (below in comments)) BIT (nothing restrained)) THE TRUTH ....

    Article minus(forgive Alexey))) it is WRONG, although everything is written correctly (the paradox of modernity)) Putin says (by the way, Chubais)) in principle, "the right things" -BUT IN THE TOTAL MINUS .....
    THE DECLINE OF INDUSTRY .... RUSSIANS ARE Dying ... PEOPLE ARE DEGRADING .....
    This ARTICLE is also to blame for the last .... (unfortunately)))
    WORD was created by the WORLD, or rather, by their correct ORDER of use ....
    THIS IS VIOLATED IN THE ARTICLE, and there are many articles that the modders skip - there is a "destructive" beginning ...
    The world must BEGIN to be built on an objective foundation, by verified means, without using fragile "doneUnas" sites ....

    ......................................))))))))))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 17: 48
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      Non-material production,

      Vladimir, didn’t you just try to be objective? It’s just silly to say that this is not when everyone knows what it is. It’s just silly and all. It makes no sense to talk about non-existent things that are in fact plans or were not implemented at all. If the plant is built and working, so what kind of banana and for whom to say that it is not ???
      I wouldn’t give a damn about Chubais, Putin, or anyone else there, you’ll get the hell out of them, do you really open up new plants and factories or not? -On fact YES, so what would you disagree with if there weren’t me said that they are not there, but they, like it’s not regrettable for some, are there. And that’s probably what causes the people’s aggression, and why. I think that it’s not the love of the power of individuals that makes them write such comments and accept any recognition of the fact, as a victory of power and own defeat.
      Psychology and nothing more.
      I spit when I delivered two planes to the Air Force, but now it makes no sense to spit anywhere or to anyone when the planes go in dozens and turntables in hundreds. wink
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 20 January 2014 18: 49
      +7
      Quote: Asgard
      .RUSSIANS DIE ... PEOPLE DEGRAD ...


      E. no. About who and how is actually degrading. Read at your leisure interview Grigory Petrovich Klimov, he is just investigating the problems of degradation.
      link
      For example, he claims that the degeneration of a society or a human clan (or people) has three stages
      1. Sexual perversions
      2. Mental illness
      3. Birth defects
      -
      How many degenerates do you think?
      Statistics for the third (3) stage of degeneration (birth defects) and statistics for the second (2) stage of degeneration (mental illness) are in the open press. You can find it yourself. Statistics for the first stage of degeneration (sexual perversions) is not so easy to find.

      Let's take the data published in the US by Dr. Wittels and Dr. Kinsey. Dr. Wittels, in his Sexual Lives of American Women, gives us the following statistics:
      ... from which every third (every second) person gets into the first stage of degeneration. This is in the prosperous USA.
      When these data were analyzed by profession, then we got a rather interesting picture:

      - 5% - peasantry (farmers);
      - 10% - workers (factory);
      - 50% are intellectuals;
      - 75% - workers of literature and art;
      - 90% are media workers.


      These statistics give us a new look at the old idea of ​​the struggle of classes (of class struggle). However the class struggle, not of the rich with the poor, but of degenerates with normal people.

      So, it is just DEGENERATES that media workers, pop musicians, and intellectuals of all kinds of forums are replacing concepts and turning everything upside down, trying to present most NORMAL people as degenerates. Since among the last three categories in Russia almost no Russians, and in the first two, where the vast majority of Russians, the number of perverts is not so much although this is for the American workers and farmers (we may have less). So do not make hasty conclusions about the complete degradation of the Russian people
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 20 January 2014 18: 53
        +3
        That is why Klimov strongly recommends
        Degeneralogy must be studied by the state security services of all countries without exception. This is necessary so that we never go to war again - nation after nation, for the sake of fun and sadistic pleasures of the leaders of the degenerative sect.

        I also highly recommend that the basics of Degenealogy were mandatory introduced in high school and first courses of universities, so that normal people knew about the existence of a huge class of degenerates and could make the right choice in youth to create a healthy family.


        And for example, I liked it
        Question. Can Russia have a normal government?
        A class of degenerates is heterogeneous. Degenerates are good, bad and vile.
        Good degenerates there have always been, are and will be our friends and allies. In the government, they will always fight vile degenerates, just as the police are constantly fighting criminal elements.
        Bad degenerates in government - they will pretend that nothing is happening. They will not even try to stop the vile degenerates during their attacks on the class of normal people.
        Vile degenerates always start with an attack on good degenerates, because good degenerates, as a protective system of the body, can quickly recognize and neutralize the actions of vile degenerates. After suppressing the good degenerates in government, vile degenerates, as a rule, immediately start a full-scale war against the entire class of normal people.
        So - how do you determine if there are good degenerates in government?
        Simple questions. Simple answers. A simple test.
        How does the government respond to the pederast rights movement?
        How does the government respond to the death penalty for criminal degenerates?
        How does the government protect the interests of the class of normal workers?
        How does the government protect the interests of the parasitic class of degenerates?

        I am often asked - and can there be normal people in power? My answer to this question: theoretically - yes, but in practice, if a normal person comes to power - he will not stay there for a long time. It is not for nothing that people say - to live with wolves - howl like a wolf.
        link
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 20 January 2014 20: 43
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          I am often asked - can there be normal people in power? My answer to this question: theoretically - yes, but in practice, if a normal person comes to power, he will not stay there for a long time. It is not for nothing that people say - to live with wolves - howl like a wolf.

          A vivid example of Om Urlashov ... according to the locals, more precisely as they told: Like, before his arrival, they didn’t do anything, He came and started to do something. so he was immediately given a bribe, and he slept through inexperience laughing
          1. rolik
            rolik 20 January 2014 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: Luzhichanin
            A striking example of Om Urlashov

            Of course, I can’t say anything concrete about Urlashov, but .... I drove in the summer Yaroslavl twice in my car. Roads in the city are in disgusting condition, which directly speaks of the mayor's work.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 19: 18
        +3
        Quote: Ascetic
        So these are just DEGENERATES, media workers, pop music,

        He also draws attention to the fact that they have a pathological complex of power. Accordingly, there, in the government, they are also full.
        Quote: Ascetic
        So do not make hasty conclusions about the complete degradation of the Russian people

        Here I do not agree a bit. Degeneration, like any pathology, can be natural and artificial. Like milk, it can sour itself, or maybe with the help of sourdough. This is done with us purposefully, with the help of leaven through the media. hi
        P.S. Hello, dear Ascetic. hi
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 20 January 2014 19: 36
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Degeneration, like any pathology, can be natural and artificial. Like milk, it can sour itself, or maybe with the help of sourdough. This is done with us purposefully, with the help of leaven through the media.


          Hello! Klimov, and the answer is true indirectly ..
          degeneration is an integral part of the life cycle. This process has been going on for thousands of years. Just before it was called differently. When a new, freshly baked degenerate begins to understand for the first time that it is different from other people (from normal people) - he has a choice. It can become a good degenerate, a bad degenerate, or a vile geek.
          Degeneration is primary (it is from the parents), and Godlessness is secondary (it is your personal choice).
          Higher sociology has never considered degenerates to be rejected by God. Higher sociology claims that each degenerate is only responsible for his personal choice, not for choosing your parents.
          When a young sadistic homo-teenager for the first time begins to feel the presence of demons of degeneration (the urge to dominate, to attack, to kill) - he can:

          1. Join a local street gang (or organize your own) and begin to rob and kill local normal people.
          2. Go to the school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Become a policeman and start killing and attacking members of local criminal gangs.
          Remember well - the choice is always yours. You always have a choice.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 19: 56
            0
            Quote: Ascetic
            Remember well - the choice is always yours. You always have a choice.

            But you can push the choice? They are being pushed, and the bulk of this is being done.
            Quote: Ascetic
            Degeneration is primary (it is from the parents), and Godlessness is secondary (it is your personal choice).

            I totally agree. Bullseye from the apple tree. After getting to know Klimov’s work, you look at many things differently. hi
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 January 2014 20: 05
            +1
            Through the media, you can only influence worldview and behavioral standards,
            Degeneration is a biological process, simply put degeneration. Not for nothing among the people among the NORMAL PEOPLE of vile degenerate is called geek. An example is the same Chubais. The same Stalin was a biological degenerate, with birth defects and mental phobias.
            But according to the test in the comment above, unlike Chubais, he belongs to the class of good degenerates who fight vile degenerates. All clans of the ruling aristocratic dynasties are subject to degeneration and degeneration. An example of the Habsburgs and the Romanovs when the heir suffered from hemophilia.
            All modern dynasties of capitalists were born mainly by degenerates, degenerates, for all the large fortunes were originally made on blood and deceit.
            Recently, news caught my eye - Edgar Bronfman, a Canadian businessman, billionaire, philanthropist, owner of the Seagram distillery and former chairman of the WJC (World Jewish Congress), died. So the founder of the dynasty, Samuel Bronfman, was essentially an ordinary mafia bootlegger population of counterfeit alcohol.
            Newspapers called him “criminal genius,” “chief of the chefs of the All-American Mafia,” “the godfather of the godfathers,” and even “the leader of Kosher Nostra.”

            Distill whiskey by a figure. Seagram History.
            So almost all the modern financial and political transnational ELITE-ORDINARY GEORGES
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 20 January 2014 16: 48
    +7
    Quote: baltika-18
    Ivanovo (parachute factory), the former 3rd sewing company, leading its history since 1924. It was simply taken from the center to the outskirts, to the industrial zone. Their products are normal for the army, athletes. But the salaries are not high at the enterprise, 15-20 thousand .


    Somewhere in the year 2007, the Russian Textile holding was formed (about those who were there who ruled there below)"Alliance" Russian Textile ", JSC It includes "Partnership Tverskaya Manufactura", "Murom KhBK" Krasny Luch "," Kamyshinsky KhBK "and Teykovsky KhBC. In general, in 2007, the owners invested $ 10 million in the modernization of Teikovsky KhBC.
    JOURNALISTS SHOWED UPDATE TEYKOVSKY HBC
    And already in 20011. read in Kommersant in the bankruptcy section
    30.04.2011
    77030170089 By the decision of the Arbitration Court of the Ivanovo Region of 15.04.2011/17/1088 in case No. А2011-1083704001259 / 3704562523 Limited Liability Company Management Company Teykovsky Cotton Plant (OGRN 370401001, TIN 155048, KPP 10, legal address: XNUMX, Ivanovo Region, Teykovsky District, Teykovo, Sergeevskaya St. , d. XNUMX) declared insolvent (bankrupt), bankruptcy proceedings are open. Bankruptcy trustee approved Evgeny Chutkin (TIN 370258132572, correspondence address: 153002, Ivanovo, Lenin Ave., 92, of. 72.), member of NP SRO NAU “DELO”

    Kommersant | 01.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX
    open bidding through a public offer to sell the rights of claim of a debtor LLC UK “TCBK” took place. The winner is Tex-Prime LLC (TIN 7701827070), with a price offer of 3060040,34 rubles, including VAT. The bid winner has no interest in the debtor, creditors, bankruptcy trustee. Bankruptcy trustee, self-regulatory organization do not participate in the capital of the winner.

    Now the new owner, according to the official website, has taken the company out of bankruptcy, at the office of 2000 people work there. But
    On August 13, 2013, Governor Mikhail Men visited the city-forming enterprise of Teykov - Teykovsky HBK.
    Workers complained to the governor about low salary - for many she does not reach 8000 rubles. To this Mikhail Men answered: “This is not only lower than the average salary in the region, but also in the industry! I think that the management of the enterprise after our meeting will draw the appropriate conclusions. ”

    Here is a good example of the effectiveness of private business and candle factories. And this is a CITIZING ENTERPRISE for the whole RICHENTR. So salaries of 15-20 thousand are still bold fellow
    This is how the ENGLISH COMPANY Tex Development Plc bankrupted the Russian Textile Alliance and, accordingly, the Teykovsky HBK created by them on the basis of still Soviet HBK. By the way, the English company was the owner of the plant where the position area of ​​the missile division is located.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 20 January 2014 19: 26
      +2
      I actually brought this specific example. It clearly demonstrates the scheme according to which the notorious Mr. Browder was acting in Russia at that time and what are the consequences of his activities - the Magnitsky Case and what powerful support they have in the face of international capital and, accordingly, the fifth column inside Russia.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 10: 25
    +14
    Quote: ele1285
    Tiny production

    Moreover, they are built more likely contrary to public policy, and not because of it.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 January 2014 10: 32
      +14
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Moreover, they are built more likely contrary to public policy, and not because of it.

      You noticed it rightly, I didn’t take it into account. Our state helps everyone (writing off debts, the stabilization fund to America) except its people. The government, when we see heartburn.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 10: 44
    +2
    Quote: ele1285
    Mr. Volodin presents TINY productions with such pathos as if they built a GAZ or Magnitogorsk

    Mr. Volodin lays out the facts, but how you feel about this with pathos or hostility is another question.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 11: 03
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Mr. Volodin puts the facts out

      Sanya, I respect Volodin, but this time the facts are written off on one side of the coin. hi
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 11: 11
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        but this time the facts are written off on one side of the coin

        Remember our argument in the last article, so there the article was also on one side of the coin. There is a response to that article, so two sides, one side is the last article, the second one is hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 11: 20
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Remember our argument in the last article

          Of course I remember. Value is not in favor of economic recovery. Agriculture is taxed according to the general scheme. The state is not involved in these achievements. It is investing more and more in RUSNANO, with billions in losses. Visit Delyagin's site, for all its ambiguity, the economist is competent.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 15
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72

            Of course I remember. Value is not in favor of economic recovery.

            Igor, you yourself understood what you wrote, if it weren’t in favor, then our economy would have long gone into the abyss.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 14: 57
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              then our economy would have long gone into the abyss.

              Sasha, in the mountains there are places where it seems that the road goes up, and you put the ball on the road, it rolls up the side. Optical illusion. In our economy the same way - the author mentions small achievements of private and foreign companies. And the state behaves like this -
              At the same time, a completely remarkable thing is indicated in the strategy: the transfer of a controlling stake to private owners should take place only if the total proceeds from the sale of Rusnano products amount to about 300 billion rubles. If Rusnano does not reach this level of revenue by 2015, then the company, together with a controlling stake, will remain in the bosom of Rosimushchestvo. An interesting thing is that if corporate profit remains low, then the company is left to the state - they say, let it continue to be invested in what, let it continue to allocate investment funds; but as soon as the company's profit grows, Rusnano will immediately go into private hands.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 17: 54
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72

                Sasha, in the mountains there are places where it seems that the road goes up, and you put the ball on the road, it rolls up the side. Optical illusion.

                Is cheating wink
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                And the state behaves like this -

                Why do you assign victories to private traders and foreigners, and defeat to power? If you think your way, the state created the conditions for private traders and foreigners. In the 90s there were no factories, buy and sell one
    2. andrejwz
      andrejwz 20 January 2014 12: 25
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Mr. Volodin lays out the facts, but how you feel about this with pathos or hostility is another question.

      It is a fact that the examples given in the article are the level and result of the work of the regional leadership, and the insignificant size of production and employment of workers is the result of the weakness of the economic policy pursued by the government.
      I, too, am not a supporter of "chernukha", but like many on the site I do not see that the government has developed systemic economic mechanisms that allow, taking into account our energy base and scientific potential, to make a real leap forward.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 17
        +1
        Quote: andrejwz

        It is a fact that the examples given in the article are the level and result of the work of the regional leadership

        Listen, how do you share it, if the factories close, the government or the president is to blame, and if they open, it is a merit of the local authorities - what kind of nonsense?
        And secondly, the article gives grains of what is being built or built. However, if you are comfortable thinking so, well, your right hi
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        2. aviamed90
          aviamed90 20 January 2014 13: 30
          +2
          Alexander Romanov

          For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that we are discussing production facilities that were opened (invested) by RUSNANO, and not in the country as a whole and in all industries.
          The Vedic article provides a list of such industries.

          And the article is about RUSNANO, isn't it?

          Let’s proceed from this.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 14: 38
            +1
            Quote: aviamed90
            Let’s proceed from this.

            sorry, you write me this, if the above in comments is complete nonsense?
  • Fin
    Fin 20 January 2014 11: 08
    -1
    Quote: ele1285
    In my opinion, the author has something not quite right. Mr. Volodin presents TINY productions with such pathos as if they built a GAZ or Magnitogorsk.

    Alexey Volodin! You probably decided to wake people up on Monday, otherwise people are slowly discussing topics in the new year?
    Specifically small production indicated? There are no metallurgical plants at all.
    Over the past year, more than 200 medium and large new production facilities were opened in Russia, including projects implemented at existing enterprises. Among the new factories, workshops and production complexes 107 with investments of more than 1 billion rubles, 51 launched with the participation of foreign investors, 134 built from scratch. Http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/45774/
    All-crawler! Read and do not cry, or at least with one eye.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 20 January 2014 11: 18
      +2
      Fin

      Only one "plant" (and in fact - a shop) in the city of Vladimir invested 2 billion rubles.

      "On the territory of the plant, which is about 10 thousand sq. M., No more than 150 people will work, including managers and commercial services." (site "sonetnn.ru")

      Investments in the project amounted to almost 2 billion rubles. The project investors were: RUSNANO OJSC, Polymersynthesis OJSC. (ibid.)


      So your 1 billion figure is impressive.

      So where is the truth?
      1. Fin
        Fin 20 January 2014 11: 32
        -1
        Quote: aviamed90
        Investments in the project amounted to almost 2 billion rubles. The project investors were: RUSNANO OJSC, Polymersynthesis OJSC.

        I quoted the site. Stop by and read, even with pictures.
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        2. aviamed90
          aviamed90 20 January 2014 11: 37
          +2
          Fin

          There are no complaints to you.

          Claims to the site owner "sdelanounas" Roma Kovrigin.
          Apparently he is a "specialist" in his field.
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    3. mak210
      mak210 20 January 2014 13: 28
      +4
      Maybe this is comparable, given that about 10 professionals will ride this springboard?
      The ski jump was built in preparation for the 2014 Olympic Games. In the initial project, the construction cost of the ski jump was estimated at 1,2 billion rubles. By the time the document was approved, its value had increased to 1,9 billion rubles. By April 2012, the construction cost was estimated at 4,5 billion rubles.


      Or so:
      Esquire magazine calculated how high a layer of black caviar, foie gras or shredded Louis Vuitton bags would be if the Adler-Krasnaya Polyana Olympic road (227 billion rubles for 48 kilometers) were built from these materials.
      oysters - 6 cm
      black caviar - 1,1 cm
      Louis Vuitton Handbags - 9 cm
      foie gras - 21,9 cm
      truffles - 6 cm
      Hennessy cognac - 13,85 cm

  • Xroft
    Xroft 20 January 2014 11: 59
    -3
    and who is building a GAZ or Magnitogorsk now? the states? Europe?
    All modern production is specialized in specialized areas with a narrow circle of specialists (30-40 people), for a specific sales market, otherwise the company will immediately go bankrupt. Or do you want a machine and manual assembly like in China for 500t people? Is it a quality indicator in your opinion? crowd of milling machines?
    It is almost impossible for an investor or the state to create a closed production cycle, because it requires huge costs and extensive analytics of the domestic market (which consists of private traders who find it easier to left China to buy ...) An example is the US defense industry in which tons of Chinese counterfeit pop up super new projects.
    This is the essence of the modern economy and the role of production in it ...
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 January 2014 12: 30
      +4
      Quote: Xroft
      and who is building a GAZ or Magnitogorsk now? the states? Europe?
      An example is the US defense industry in which tons of Chinese counterfeit pop up even on super new projects.
      This is the essence of the modern economy and the role of production in it ...

      And why do we need this essence? In your opinion, it turns out that aircraft, machine-tool, machine-tool construction is "specialized production with a narrow circle of specialists (30-40 people)"
      In the states and Europe it may not be profitable, everything is simpler from China, but we NEED to raise our economy. And about 500t people and manual assembly, it's just stupid.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 14
      +2
      Quote: Xroft
      and who is building a GAZ or Magnitogorsk now? the states? Europe?
      All modern production is specialized in specialized areas with a narrow circle of specialists (30-40 people), for a specific sales market

      Stan-5000 in Vyksa was built on the basis of the existing metallurgical production, but in terms of investment it is equivalent to a dozen other plants built from scratch. I will not give a link, it does not make sense hi
  • Volodin
    20 January 2014 13: 18
    +1
    Following your logic, is nothing but "new Magnitka" an enterprise? Yes, even "45 jobs, including a cleaning lady." These are 45 people who work and pay taxes. Or does the country only need tank factories?
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 20 January 2014 13: 52
      +8
      Quote: Volodin
      Following your logic, is nothing but "new Magnitka" an enterprise? Yes, even if "45 jobs, including a cleaning lady." These are 45 people who work and pay taxes.

      Then we recall the three hundred thousand private entrepreneurs who have ceased to exist - also a kind of enterprise, also taxes.
      1. Volodin
        20 January 2014 15: 51
        0
        Yarosvet, if you carefully read the article, which, based on your comment, I highly doubt today, you should have grasped that it was not about how much was reduced, closed and fired, but about how much a) despite everything, it was opened and b) how much money is thrown into strange projects like Rusnano, and how great it would be to use these funds when opening new, really in demand, production facilities. On "Voennoye Obozreniye", articles on the termination of the existence of the IP are also published (by the way, far from one came out), so your comment is definitely not on the topic of the material.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 20 January 2014 16: 39
          +5
          Quote: Volodin
          Your comment is definitely off topic.

          As you may have noticed, I did not comment on the article, but on your rather strange explanation:
          Quote: Volodin
          Following your logic, is nothing except "new Magnitka" an enterprise? Yes, even "45 jobs, including a cleaning lady." These are 45 people who work and pay taxes.. Or does the country need exclusively tank plants?


          As for the positive judgment, the reasons for which you apparently found, then these reasons definitely do not exist, as evidenced by the ratio of the share of oil and gas revenues in the budget and the size of the budget itself in the 99th and 12-13th years.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 16: 52
          -1
          Quote: Volodin
          Yarosvet, if you carefully read the article,

          Yes, Yarosvet does not need it, the main criticism is nothing more. By the way, most of the IPs are essentially one-day firms, there are several hundred of the same plastic windows in our city, many of them closed. The main reason is poor quality and failure to fulfill the obligations undertaken. Craftsmen in a word. And there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of such people all over the country. And such hacky firms (not only window companies) in the country are sea. This is where Yarosvet is pleased, but again by.
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 20 January 2014 14: 00
      +6
      Quote: Volodin
      Following your logic, is nothing but "new Magnitka" an enterprise? Yes, even "45 jobs, including a cleaning lady." These are 45 people who work and pay taxes. Or does the country only need tank factories?

      Do not go to extremes, I am not saying that 45 jobs are bad. I am talking with what pathos it is presented by the media. And the country will not be able to survive on "artisans" alone.
      You try to "explain to people why these 45 jobs accept" newcomers. "
      I'm just interested to look at your discussion with abbreviated workers, for example, from VAZ or KamAZ on this topic. There you will probably follow "your logic."
      1. Volodin
        20 January 2014 15: 56
        +1
        Alexander, but I don't go to extremes either. Let us then be mutually objective. The topic of the article is not about the closure and reduction (we have many other articles about this - and I said about this in one of the comments above - to Yarosvet), but just about the opening of production facilities (even for 45, even for 450 people), in spite of everything and in spite of the policy of gentlemen like Chubais too. Perhaps they do not reach KamAZ or Magnitka, but this does not diminish the fact of their appearance, which for some reason is "not fashionable" to talk about in the media today.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 20 January 2014 16: 11
          +7
          Quote: Volodin
          Alexander, but I don't go to extremes either. Let us then be mutually objective. The topic of the article is not about the closure and reduction (we have many other articles about this - and I said about this in one of the comments above - to Yarosvet), but just about the opening of production facilities (even for 45, even for 450 people), in spite of everything and in spite of the policy of gentlemen like Chubais too. Perhaps they do not reach KamAZ or Magnitka, but this does not diminish the fact of their appearance, which for some reason is "not fashionable" to talk about in the media today.

          You know, I read the article carefully, but the second part of the article emotionally simply crushed the first.
          I completely agree with you about the opening of "small" industries, it does not matter, for 45 or 450 jobs. God forbid, let them continue to open. You understand, I am against this PAPHOS, which is being promoted in the media. Even in this article. This is not a breakthrough in the economy, this is a patch for Trishkin's caftan. Just try to read the periodicals of the new Moscow, I'm sick, just sick. And I'm sorry, emotions sometimes go off scale, I'm just a human too.
          But it’s interesting to talk with you, although sometimes your emotions go wild.
          With great respect, Shatilov A.S.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 16: 54
      0
      Quote: Volodin
      Following your logic, is nothing except "new Magnitka" an enterprise?

      If this is for me, then I gave as an example and no more in the answer above.
  • mak210
    mak210 20 January 2014 13: 19
    +8
    Meanwhile, AvtoVAZ will reduce 27 691 employees, several sources at the meeting of the company's suppliers said.

    OJSC "KAMAZ" can reduce by 30% the number of management personnel and employees of auxiliary services. The corresponding order has been prepared

    Since the start of privatization, Norilsk Nickel has reduced its headcount by almost 40%, while production has increased by almost the same 40%. Instead of 160 thousand workers in the early 1990s, now there are less than 100 thousand workers. And this despite the fact that there are new subsidiaries

    The oldest vodka factory in Moscow, Kristall, once the industry leader, stopped production.

    The legendary ZIL factory close. Is this the funeral of our auto industry forever?

    In general, during the years of reform, the situation in the food industry is characterized by a decline in the production of all basic food products, a significant reduction in the range of products manufactured, the crisis state of most enterprises, aging of fixed assets, especially their active part.


    Can give more examples?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 15: 12
      +10
      Quote: mak210
      Can give more examples?

      The growth of production in Russia is such that the level of 1957 has been “reached” in coal production, in the production of trucks - in 1937, in the production of trucks - in 1933, tractors - in 1931, cars and fabrics - in 1910, footwear - in 1900. Previously, 97% of the population used air transport, now only 3%. The volume of mail sent by Russians has decreased 20 times. All is well, lovely marquise ...
  • S-200
    S-200 20 January 2014 17: 26
    +7
    in fact, for the most part, these are workshop production lines, loudly referred to as factories and new industries ... request
  • jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 20 January 2014 19: 48
    0
    Yes, let it go with pockets! just for two! And stake drive aspen laughing
  • asadov
    asadov 20 January 2014 21: 04
    +2
    And let Mr. Volodin write us an article about those production facilities that were closed in 2013. Then we will see the "achievements" of the past year.
  • Civil
    Civil 20 January 2014 10: 36
    +6
    But Kvachkov will sit.
    1. plut-k
      plut-k 20 January 2014 19: 29
      +2
      and Chubais is to blame
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  • A.YARY
    A.YARY 20 January 2014 11: 47
    +6
    QUOTE
    on the other hand, such a “trifle” shows that the Russian economy continues to move along the active privatization path,
    Plus to this refusal to nationalize the president,plus to that "social norms of housing and communal services" from the prime minister,plus to that killed school .......
    We live well ..........
    1. alone
      alone 20 January 2014 12: 20
      +3
      What is difficult to see for Rosnano?


      Where Chubais, wait for trouble.
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      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 20 January 2014 14: 47
        +4
        Romanov, are you tutava angry? laughing

        Where is the video from Putin’s campaign headquarters, and why?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 14: 53
          -1
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Romanov, are you tutava angry?

          I, yes, you got already with your Putin, what is the article about?
          I’ll ask Volodin that he would write an article about Putin especially for you, that he would take his soul.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 20 January 2014 15: 00
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            article about what?

            If you are such a guardian of observance of the subject, then why don't you delete the rest of the comments, "diverging", like mine, with the topic of the article? laughing

            Or all the same, the essence of vidyuhi strained - admit bully
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 16: 43
              0
              Quote: Yarosvet
              then why the rest of the comments, "diverging", like mine, with the topic of the article, you can’t delete?

              Yes, they are children compared to you, if you start, you’ll post the whole topic with pictures and a video with Putin. I think you won’t say that this is not so? You spit on the article, and you need a platform for the next Opser Putin. Look for another, or at least on a topic where Putin himself is present.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 20 January 2014 17: 15
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Look for another, or at least on a topic where Putin himself is present.

                Eh Romanov - sucks in your bazaar laughing

                I commented on a lonely post -
                Quote: lonely
                Where Chubais, wait for trouble.
                - and did not agree with him, illustrating his wrongness.

                And you're all a fake honor, where it is not there, you try to guard laughing

                Himself not disgusted?


                PS Tell me - how on a site at the same pretzel can comments pop up on different branches at the same time?
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 18: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  Himself not disgusted?

                  No, you and I look at things from different angles. The article is about production, and you do not care about them, you need Putin. If I had a wax copy of Putin, I would give it to you.
                  Quote: Yarosvet

                  PS Tell me - how on a site at the same pretzel can comments pop up on different branches at the same time?

                  Glitch system
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 20 January 2014 18: 20
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    No, we are looking at things from different angles
                    How's that?

                    Production Article
                    About production is always a periodical - in fact.
                    If an article is published about production with a claim to analytics, then the trend should be considered, and not separate, in principle, positive facts.
                    And it is not at all surprising that the people are boiling up, blaming the strange conclusion of the article: after all, to draw conclusions that "there are many reasons for a positive discussion" based on individual one-sided facts is, to put it mildly, inadequate (especially in the light of the tendency of the speaker the opposite).

                    Glitch system
                    Is it often too buggy (not only the system, but also the pretzel itself, which suspiciously often has memory failures)?
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 18: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      then the trend should be considered, and not separate, in principle, positive facts.

                      Listen, you’ll have a conscience. You yourself put your pictures on separate facts and translate them into a trend. Although even if you look at your tendency, the number of new enterprises is opening up again and you cannot deny it, it's just that in fact .
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      (not only the system, but also the pretzel itself, which suspiciously often has memory failures)?

                      Specify what kind of pretzel. And then I (and not only me) have been catching you quite often lately wink I think you won’t argue with the cheese from the supermarket laughing
                    2. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 20 January 2014 19: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Listen, you have a conscience
                      Had - did not like laughing

                      You yourself post your pictures on separate facts and translate into a trend
                      Romanov, fir trees ...laughing
                      How can I give out a trend as a separate fact, which I illustrate with a demotivator or screen? HOW !!! is it possible?

                      Although even if you look at your tendency, then again the number of new enterprises opening up is growing and you cannot deny it, it's just that in fact
                      Once again: the growing number of new opening enterprises in the territory of the Russian Federation is a trend of what? The tendency to open new small enterprises owned by NOT the Russian Federation and stupidly earning on the difference in the wage fund? There is such a tendency. Is it positive for citizens?

                      I think you won’t argue with the cheese from the supermarket
                      About the cheese read the answer?

                      And about the pretzel, here
                    3. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 20 January 2014 19: 47
                      +2
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov

                      There are a couple of newsletters - I want to share with you repeat
  • rolik
    rolik 20 January 2014 22: 11
    0
    Quote: mirag2
    What "nano"?

    nano, this is the antonym of the word nuno)))))
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 20 January 2014 09: 36
    +16
    So far, such as Chubais, on whom the prison is crying, there will be no Russian development under the authorities, this is what E. Primakov said in his speech, and he knows his job, unlike this privatizer and schemer.
    1. Canep
      Canep 20 January 2014 10: 11
      +5
      Speaking with a lecture at Skolkovo (another megaproject), Chubais complained that private business is showing a very weak interest in innovation. According to Anatoly Borisovich, it is precisely this that holds back the development of the innovation segment of the Russian economy.
      Private business, and even ordinary people, knows perfectly well that you should not expect anything good from Chubais, that is, it does not show interest in nanoscale achievements.
      1. Combitor
        Combitor 20 January 2014 13: 30
        +11
        The time for a showdown with Chubais has not yet come. In any case, not under the current regime. Putin, recognizing that Chubais "privatized" Russia under the "careful guidance" of Western consultants (read - intelligence agents), essentially wrote him an indulgence. And what is the secret of such a "cordial union" between the main "privatizer" and the Kremlin helmsman? Isn't it:
        “After the defeat of A. Sobchak in the election of the governor of St. Petersburg, V. Putin was out of work and A. Chubais, being the head of the presidential administration B. Yeltsin, accepted him for work. So the Chubais-Putin tandem took shape. Tandem with Chubais, who turned out to be an American order bearer. ” V. Ilyukhin. Putin True, which is better not to know.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 20 January 2014 14: 28
          +3
          Quote: Kombitor
          The time for a showdown with Chubais has not yet come. In any case, not under the current regime.

          Do you, God forbid, will die before. I need to live to see my execution. It will be a national holiday, all the accordions will be torn, they will show a day off and then all normal people will really be happy. I would like to live.
  • predator.3
    predator.3 20 January 2014 09: 37
    +37
    In general, "Rusnano" strongly resembles the famous office of "horns and hooves", what they do, what they invent or produce, Allah alone knows! And why Chubais? he is that Korolev or Tupolev, no, he is a typical thief from the 90s, and as they say, his place is near the bucket!
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 January 2014 09: 45
      +8


      Well, who will put him in prison, he's a monument to ... liberastii. I wouldn't be surprised if a LADY thinks that Red is "our everything", it's disgusting.
      1. Mart
        Mart 20 January 2014 09: 58
        +6
        Quote: ele1285
        Well, who will put him in prison, he's a monument to ... liberastii. I wouldn't be surprised if a LADY thinks that Red is "our everything", it's disgusting.


        There are many famous thinkers ...

        "- Yes, and your film" The Ridge of Russia ", which was financed by Anatoly Chubais, is a happy example. Tell us how you met him?
        - I came up with this project in 2006 year. He conceived and conceived, and did not even know which side to proceed with, and in 2007, at the very beginning of the year, I had a phone call at home. Anatoly Borisovich Chubais called me and I briefly told him about my idea.
        ...
        - Which of the historical personalities would you like to talk with?
        - From the personalities of the old story - with no one, because their realities are gone. But from the figures of modernity - with many. Let's say it would be interesting to talk to Chichvarkin - is he really such a freak? And with Berezovsky - for some reason, no. Somehow he is equal to his time, but outside of time I do not see him. Here Anatoly Borisovich Chubais is not exhausted by the situation, he is much more. Berezovsky is a long time answer, and Chubais is always a question. A man of unique strength of mind, clarity of thinking and values ​​that are relevant in any era.
        - Could he become president?
        - I don't think so, because the people don't need freedom. In principle, such people should be presidents. But it turns out like with Solzhenitsyn ... Solzhenitsyn defeated the Soviet Union, received the Nobel Prize, but there is no real victory. The people he was striving for does not exist in nature. So Chubais has made a new Russia for a people who have not yet been born. To be aware of such things is very bitter. "

        Quotes - from an interview taken by writer A. Ivanov by Svetlana Ivanova (Medved magazine, April 2010).
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 20 January 2014 10: 19
          +6
          Quote: Mart
          . Here Anatoly Borisovich Chubais is not limited to the situation, he is much more. and Chubais is always a question. A man of unique strength of mind, clarity of thinking and values ​​that are relevant in any era.

          They rank him among the saints, but they were not lucky with the people, they would be from Alpha Centauri or from the constellation of the Hounds of Dogs. Then they would build everything at once, relocate them and privatize. And he would be the best president, though not for long, he and Martians could not stand.
          1. Mart
            Mart 20 January 2014 10: 31
            +9
            Quote: ele1285
            And he would have been the best president, though not for long, and the Martians would not have been able to endure him.


            Something tells me that the Martians have much less patience than the Russian people.
          2. shuhartred
            shuhartred 20 January 2014 10: 54
            +8
            Quote: ele1285
            They rank him among the saints, only they were not lucky with the people

            And they are not lucky with the people all the time, all our people are not the same. Decembrists, Narodnaya Volya, Bolsheviks, perestroika. Only Stalin had the people as they should.
      2. edwardakopov1
        edwardakopov1 20 January 2014 10: 09
        +5
        D.A.M. THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT BEEN. HE IS NOW MASKING. AND DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT. IT IS EQUAL TO LISTEN TO HARLEKIN-A. PUGACHEVA.
      3. Field
        Field 20 January 2014 12: 45
        +3
        But Putin doesn’t think so?
        Or DAM in our country possesses (possessed) in fact all the fullness of power?
        1. Field
          Field 20 January 2014 13: 14
          +2
          Who are you, minus in silence?
      4. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 20 January 2014 14: 01
        +8
        Quote: ele1285
        I will not be surprised if the LADY thinks that Red is "our everything"

        DAM? laughing
  • treskoed
    treskoed 20 January 2014 09: 39
    +4
    Speaking with a lecture at Skolkovo .....

    I believe the shares for the lecture were acquired!
  • Normal
    Normal 20 January 2014 09: 40
    +21
    The entire domestic policy of the current elite is privatization, and simply HAPOK.
    This is the whole point of perestroika, reforms and stabilization over the past 25 years. Take away the popular (allegedly nobody's) and declare - it's mine! Justify, legitimize and consolidate. Get rich and "heal"!

    Below is a list of newly opened enterprises. It's not funny ... Hundreds of jobs ... When state enterprises were ruined, crushed and seized, jobs lost thousands and tens of thousands. Now a private trader "creates" several hundred jobs and this is an ACHIEVEMENT.
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 20 January 2014 10: 57
      -1
      Quote: Normal
      Now a private trader "creates" several hundred jobs and this is an ACHIEVEMENT.

      You have to start with something, at least from the first step. You can’t leave anywhere on the spot.
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      2. aviamed90
        aviamed90 20 January 2014 11: 06
        +8
        shuhartred


        Of course it is necessary!

        But who said that you need to start with companies with the participation and control of foreign owners?

        Look through the "LIST OF AFFILIATED PERSONS of Open Joint Stock Company RUSNANO" (website "rusnano.com").

        Owners - either foreign companies or CJSCs, the owners of which are "classified".
        And RUSNANO has about 20% of the votes on the board of directors. Not even a controlling stake.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 20 January 2014 14: 18
          +6
          Quote: aviamed90
          Look through the "LIST OF AFFILIATED PERSONS of Open Joint Stock Company RUSNANO" (website "rusnano.com").

          Owners - either foreign companies or CJSCs, the owners of which are "classified".

          So sho this is surprising if there the chief patriot - Zhenya Fedorov works as the chairman of the revision committee? laughing
      3. ele1285
        ele1285 20 January 2014 11: 38
        +5
        Quote: shuhartred
        You have to start with something, at least from the first step. You can’t leave anywhere on the spot.

        You see, the conversation is not about private owners and handicraftsmen, the conversation about the state that does not care about private owners and people. Surely all of the listed enterprises in the article are a private initiative. The government has withdrawn from production. What has been done on a large scale since 2000? Olympics and Skolkovo. Everything. She doesn’t even want to take the first step, she lives her own life.
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 20 January 2014 11: 47
          +3
          Quote: ele1285
          You see, the conversation is not about private owners and handicraftsmen, the conversation about the state which does not care about private owners and people.

          Yes, everything is clear, but one thing is required of the state. Do not want to help? DO NOT DISTURB. The people themselves will do everything and industry will also raise agriculture. You know how you want to do the production of something you yourself. BUT. SCARY. After all, everyone will be taken away and left without pants.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 20 January 2014 09: 40
    +5
    This red chupacabra has already gotten out, I just can’t understand why the hell does the government need it? People to annoy? They would have removed him somewhere by the ambassador to Burkina Faso and this is the end.
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 20 January 2014 09: 44
      +3
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Would have removed it already


      Yeah. Yeah, it's time
    2. edwardakopov1
      edwardakopov1 20 January 2014 10: 13
      +3
      HOW DO YOU THOUGHT WHICH THE CHUBAISIK REMINDS? RANDOMLY PRINCIPTED PHOTOS on Hitler's mustache, AND I AM SCARY! ONE PERSON. AND IF TO CHANGE HAIRSTYLE. THAT CAN BE MOVED IN MOVIES.
    3. demel2
      demel2 20 January 2014 14: 05
      +2
      Yes, no one will remove him, the Washington Regional Committee is behind him, and they control all the loot of our elite, so therefore Red is so unsinkable.
  • makarov
    makarov 20 January 2014 09: 42
    +6
    and the FSB is all looking for enemies of the fatherland only at distant frontiers, but does not see the red beast, probably it uses nanotechnology becoming invisible?
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 20 January 2014 09: 42
    +2
    Oh, chopped Chubais, just 1% stake in Rusnano stole! He used to be bolder, aging is visible. lol
    1. Field
      Field 20 January 2014 13: 16
      +1
      From the "reformed" RAO UES, its great greats will still receive
    2. demel2
      demel2 20 January 2014 14: 10
      +1
      He won’t buy shares in that gov.na that he himself created, he knows the real price for them. These are not RAO UES shares, so he is unlikely to get old.
  • treskoed
    treskoed 20 January 2014 09: 44
    +8
    But there are many reasons for a positive discussion.

    For objectivity it is necessary to announce the list of "killed" enterprises. And then the reasons for a positive discussion will be "nano", i.e. extremely few!
  • morpogr
    morpogr 20 January 2014 09: 47
    +3
    You take a look at the photo immediately a phrase from a joke pops up. If you play cards, the fox, the wolf, the hare and the bear, the bear say, and whoever cheats will receive insolent red face.
  • Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 20 January 2014 09: 48
    +10
    Well, you don’t have to be a genius, saffron is an agent of the West. Or rather, looking after the Russian leadership. and something pedrosnya silent about him? like caviar in your mouth scored.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 January 2014 10: 58
      +3
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      saffron is an agent of the west. Or rather, looking after the Russian leadership.

      The only representative of Russia in the Bilderberg Club, it says a lot.
  • Christian
    Christian 20 January 2014 09: 49
    +23
    What is difficult to see for Rosnano?
    For Rusnano it is difficult to see the patron friend of Chubais -Putin. The rest is all visible, the plundering and deindustrialization of the country is evident! And this list of "Great Putin and Chubais construction projects" is just laughter ... For such a Power as Russia, the uraputinists put a few sharazhes of 50 people each in achievement !? Well this is degradation ...
  • Altona
    Altona 20 January 2014 09: 57
    +8
    And what about the listed factories "nano"? Conventional technologies have already been mastered there for a long time ... And Chubais seems to have only reached 50 billion in revenue, he reported recently ... As for private business, a private entrepreneur will not develop breakthrough technologies at his own peril and risk, this is possible only with a state order that guarantees at least some kind of return on investment ...
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 20 January 2014 11: 13
      +6
      "Altona" And what about the listed "nano" factories?
      Is it not clear? GAS CONCRETE BLOCKS USING NANOTECHNOLOGIES !!!!
      As well as the use of nanotechnology in the production of SUGAR and MILK! At the very factories under construction indicated in the article ... hehe heh heh ... article minus will be touched by tiny industries funny ...
      Everything goes according to plan gentlemen ...
  • bairat
    bairat 20 January 2014 09: 58
    +6
    A nationwide fundraising for a killer, so that this impudent redhead would not die by her death, would probably end in success. There would be enough liquidators for a whole special squad; people are ready for everything just not to see on the TV screen a contented face of a man who has destroyed the country's economy.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 20 January 2014 10: 11
    -4
    You shouldn’t be so. Yesterday I watched and listened very carefully to a large detailed interview of A. Chubais with the RBC channel. Not that it is Chubais. Either the brains fell into place, or the age is approaching and it’s time to think about the eternal but does everything right and in fact he is right. I think there is in the net read this interview, then return to the branch and express your opinion, there are all the criminal cases and checks and why the management companies did not AO. And expenses and income. we just have the last name Chubais like a red rag on a bull. but everything flows, everything changes. I didn’t think that I would see how he admits his mistakes directly without equivocation.
    1. Fin
      Fin 20 January 2014 10: 40
      +8
      Quote: ed65b
      Either the brains fell into place, or the age is approaching and it’s time to think about the eternal but does everything right and in fact he is right.

      Are you still so gullible? The fact that he is smart and speaks beautifully is not even discussed, it is a pity that this is aimed only at stealing for himself the beloved and K.
      Quote: ed65b
      I didn’t think that I would see how he admits his mistakes directly without equivocation.

      Does it change anything? Did he suddenly start working for the state? Understand, forgive? Only the grave will fix the redhead. For "sobering up" it is better to read the report of the Accounts Chamber on Rusnano, and where it says ineffective and irrational expenses read - stolen.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 20 January 2014 11: 00
        +7
        Quote: Fin
        Quote: ed65b
        I didn’t think that I would see how he admits his mistakes directly without equivocation.

        Does it change anything? Did he suddenly start working for the state? Understand, forgive? Only the grave will fix the redhead. For "sobering up" it is better to read the report of the Accounts Chamber on Rusnano, and where it says ineffective and irrational expenses read - stolen.

        It mimics this animal. He sings what you want. But why in Skolkovo such prices for advertising, lectures and it is not accountable to the state? Only privatization is worth it, poured into the ears about the UES, we will privatize, the price of electricity will fall, now sits on a bag of money "admits" his mistakes. I believe more in repentant Hitler than Chubais.
      2. ed65b
        ed65b 20 January 2014 11: 29
        -5
        Quote: Fin
        Did he suddenly start working for the state?

        You know, oddly enough, yes, he began to work for the state.
        1. Fin
          Fin 20 January 2014 17: 51
          +1
          Quote: ed65b
          You know, oddly enough, yes, he began to work for the state.
          Fresh info from Lenta:
          In mid-October, the Rusnano board of directors approved the creation of Rusnano Managing Company LLC. Chubais became the chairman of the board of this society. The authorized capital of the management company was one million rubles. Of this amount, 990 thousand rubles were contributed by Rusnano, and the remaining ten thousand - by Chubais, ITAR-TASS reported earlier with reference to kartoteka.ru. The head of Rusnano announced on January 16 that he had bought a stake in the LLC in the amount of less than one percent.

          I think you understand that this is the beginning of the company’s spin-off in your favor, after it was pumped up with a budget. It will continue.
    2. Colonel
      Colonel 20 January 2014 10: 46
      +5
      If this is not that Chubais, then will he not return what he seized that Chubais. I think it’s unlikely. When the devil grows old, he becomes a monk, prays, but does not repent.
  • aviamed90
    aviamed90 20 January 2014 10: 23
    +9
    "LIST OF AFFILIATED PERSONS of Open Joint Stock Company RUSNANO"
    For example:


    "No. 31. Closed Joint Stock Company RM Nanotech"

    6000016, Vladimir Region, Vladimir, ul. Bolshaya Nizhny Novgorod, d. 77

    1. RUSNANO has the right to dispose more than 20% of total votesattributable to shares constituting the authorized capital of the person
    2. The person belongs to the RUSNANO group of persons on 11.03.2011, 15.04.2013 "(website" rusnano.com ")

    "Affiliated person is an individual or legal entity capable of influencing the activities of legal entities and / or individuals engaged in entrepreneurial activity." (VKP)

    "Affiliate - accept as a branch; accept as a member; merge, merge. Affiliated company - a branch company, subsidiary company, a company with which there are connections, a member company, a controlled company. Affiliate network - a partner network, branch network, regional net." (site "forexaw.com")

    In fact, this is a private structure. Who does she belong to?

    That is, did ROSNO state money go to invest in a private company?
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    2. aviamed90
      aviamed90 20 January 2014 10: 46
      +7
      "On the territory of the plant, which is about 10 thousand sq. M., No more than 150 people will work, including managers and commercial services." (site "sonetnn.ru")

      Investments in the project amounted to almost 2 billion rubles. The project investors were: RUSNANO OJSC, Polymersynthesis OJSC. (ibid.)

      150 jobs in Vladimir for 2 billion rubles? Is it a little expensive?

      It is rather a workshop, not a factory.


      Or can the author dispel my doubts?
  • holding
    holding 20 January 2014 10: 34
    +7
    This red-haired devil is free. Serdyukoff and co too. I don’t understand much in this life.
  • Altona
    Altona 20 January 2014 10: 36
    +4
    Quote: ed65b
    we just have the last name Chubais like a red rag on a bull. but everything flows, everything changes.

    --------------------------
    No, associations with another rag, a towel in the bathroom ... on the neck ...
  • invisibility
    invisibility 20 January 2014 10: 42
    +3
    According to the author, should the red-haired hero of Russia be given? Apparently the weekend he went violently ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 20 January 2014 11: 18
      +5
      According to the author, should the red-haired hero of Russia be given?


      Chubais became a household hero of perestroika — it’s the same as the seal of Satan on his forehead — I believe that CHUBAIS will never wash off its past deeds.
      And you can never trust such a person any leadership in the country, not just a company, but even a car.
      1. demel2
        demel2 20 January 2014 14: 40
        +1
        However, after the collapse of RAO, they created another place for him to steal, it’s just that the lards that separate the state from our taxes were given to this main effective manager, he was probably very valuable or owed something to him with GDP. Well, or very big forces are behind Chubais .
  • Heccrbq.3
    Heccrbq.3 20 January 2014 10: 57
    +3
    Volodin Alexey, is everything clear to you in the comments? laughing We are waiting for the next article on the contribution of, for example, the drunk Yeltsin or the scum of Gaidar (he died from a binge, sorry, the rope did not wait).
    1. Volodin
      20 January 2014 12: 49
      +1
      Vasya, at least do not sign that you have not read the entire article - at best, "diagonally". This is what is clear to me from your and other similar comments ...

      Give at least one quote from an article that says about, as you put it, Chubais's contribution to at least the new production facilities that are opening. This article is devoted to the fact that they appear "in spite of", and not "thanks" to such gentlemen as Chubais and other similar economists. I didn't think that there are readers on our site who need to explain this in a "special comment". It turned out that we have a lot of them ...
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      2. aviamed90
        aviamed90 20 January 2014 13: 04
        +2
        Volodin

        Of course a lot.
        And no wonder.

        If the opening of these "large-scale" productions was carried out under the patronage and at the expense of RUSNANO, and the head of this organization is Mr. Chubais, then it is difficult to imagine that he did not take part in this (that is, contributed to this business) ...

        Well, where A. Chubais shows his activity - "expect trouble", as the forum member "lonely" exactly put it.

        After all, we all remember the "beneficial" results of the activities of this gentleman.

        Therefore, we need to be more precise in the wording and terminology used. It was necessary to write that, they say - "not thanks to, but in spite of."

        So the people just misunderstood you.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 05
          +3
          Quote: aviamed90

          If the opening of these "large-scale" productions was carried out under the patronage and with the money of "RUSNANO", and the head of this organization is Mr. Chubais,

          Hundreds of them are opening, what does Chubais have to do with it?
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          2. aviamed90
            aviamed90 20 January 2014 13: 14
            +1
            Alexander Romanov

            Isn't Mr. Chubais the head of RUSNANO and is not its chairman of the board?

            Or does he have nothing to do with and does not control the organization that he leads?
            And doesn’t know what projects the money is going to?
        2. Volodin
          20 January 2014 13: 29
          +4
          aviamed90, sorry, I don’t know your name. Could you clarify where in the article it is written that these enterprises are open under the patronage (patronage) of Rusnano?

          Guys, what are you really? - Either read the article more carefully, or don’t read it at all.
          1. aviamed90
            aviamed90 20 January 2014 13: 52
            +1
            Volodin

            Perhaps you are right, but I am not.
            I, by a sinful deed, understood that you are citing the achievements of RUSNANO in the article.

            After all, the article is about RUSNANO?
            And after digging deeper, for example, the item "Vladimir region. A plant for the production of new generation boards has been opened" immediately discovered a trace of this state corporation.

            But at the point "Yaroslavl region. Opening of a pharmaceutical enterprise." a Japanese investor is clearly traced (the Takeda firm).
            And at the point "Tomsk. The first plant in Russia for the production of 4G communication format stations." Nokia Siemens Networks.

            So, apparently, you are right - not everywhere on this list there is a trace of Chubais's "brainchild".
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 14: 43
              +1
              Quote: aviamed90

              Perhaps you are right, but I am not.
              I, by a sinful deed, understood that you are citing the achievements of RUSNANO in the article.

              It was noticeable laughing
              Quote: aviamed90
              For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that we are discussing production facilities that were opened (invested) by RUSNANO, and not in the country as a whole and in all industries.

              lol
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 08
        +3
        Quote: Volodin

        Give at least one quote from an article that says about, as you put it, Chubais’s contribution to at least new production facilities that are being opened.

        Alexey doesn’t matter; just one last name in the Chubais article is enough, they see her, the rest is not interesting. Experiment and replace Chubas with Medvedev in the next article. The points will be the same, the same and the same, only instead of Chubais there will be a surname Medvedev laughing
        1. Volodin
          20 January 2014 13: 25
          +2
          Alexander, it turns out, we have a lot more people on our site (more than I could have guessed) who scribble comments without reading or even understanding any articles ... Yeah, apparently, from the mention of the name "Chubais" eyes become bloodshot and interfere with finishing what you started - people, in principle, can be understood smile
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 13: 49
            +3
            Quote: Volodin
            Yes, apparently, from the mention of the surname "Chubais", the eyes are filled with blood and interfere with finishing the begun

            About 90% of the article is not read at all, just the headline is further sculpted by comments. It does not make sense to enter into a substantive dispute with people who have not read the article, prove nothing, and is there any sense in shouting to the deaf? hi
            Special thanks for the article and the work done.
          2. ele1285
            ele1285 20 January 2014 16: 49
            0
            Quote: Volodin
            Alexander, it turns out, we have a lot more people on our site (more than I could have guessed) who scribble comments without reading or even understanding any articles ... Yeah, apparently, from the mention of the name "Chubais" eyes become bloodshot and interfere with finishing what you started - people, in principle, can be understood smile

            Here's to you
  • Alex66
    Alex66 20 January 2014 11: 15
    +4
    Chubais generally agreed with the first part of the article to rob the citizens of the country and transfer the taxes of Russian citizens to the personal accounts of new privatizers. And the second part about successes smiled and upset, because not a lot of serious production.
  • svp67
    svp67 20 January 2014 11: 19
    +1
    What is difficult to see for Rosnano?
    Little marginal profitability ...
  • Owl
    Owl 20 January 2014 11: 21
    +4
    Why is he ("red-haired Chubais") still in business? because he and VVP have the same leader, so the "redhead" will destroy, steal and profit, and Serdyuk will not be imprisoned, and we will pay tribute to Kadyrenk, and we will pay.
  • Orakyl
    Orakyl 20 January 2014 11: 27
    +3
    A sweet couple of Chubais and Serdyukov in Rusnano. In principle, I am not against their unification, but only if they are there behind barbed wire and without the right to correspond, not to mention the possibility of making key decisions. I propose to send all such personalities to Rusnano, so that later, when the time comes, not to run and not to look for one, but all together in a jail on a bench.
  • yehat
    yehat 20 January 2014 11: 29
    +7
    Yes, to list small industries as achievements is already just the height of cynicism.
    For every open small workshop, a closed enterprise accounts for 10 times the number of employees.
    In addition, one should carefully look at the structure of production - almost all of those listed are more likely to be from the category of service of the intra-district production chain - and there are very few purely export, "market" ones.
    The only good thing is that these small enterprises say: small and medium-sized businesses have not yet been crushed completely - in some places they are still fluttering ...
    but meanwhile ...

    "The first post-war five-year plan as a whole was fulfilled thanks to the heroic efforts of the entire Soviet people. The mines of Donbass, Zaporizhstal, Dneproges and many others were restored. The level of industrial production in 1950 exceeded the pre-war level by 73%, the production of means of production doubled. Fixed assets. industry over the years of the five-year plan increased by 1940% in comparison with 34, labor productivity by 37%.

    Within five years, more than 6,2 thousand large enterprises were restored, built anew and put into operation. The production of the most important types of equipment, machines and mechanisms increased significantly in comparison with the pre-war level: metallurgical equipment - 4,7 times; oil equipment - 3; coal harvesters - 6; gas turbines - 2,6; electrical equipment - 3 times, etc. "

    there is something to compare! not units are open, but more than 6.2 thousand per five-year period after sheer devastation
    with a deficit of everything and everything!
    1. Fin
      Fin 20 January 2014 11: 44
      -4
      Quote: yehat
      there is something to compare! not units are open, but more than 6.2 thousand per five-year period after sheer devastation
      with a deficit of everything and everything!

      Do you know how many hours a day they worked? And the fact that in the village they put workdays, and not paid salaries? And all this is starving. Ask that generation. Are you ready in this mode with a pick and shovel, or with a jackhammer in the face?
  • ed65b
    ed65b 20 January 2014 11: 48
    -9
    You can water the Rusnano shit indefinitely, but this will not add objectiveness. Read the interview again with numbers and results, then you will swear. The fact that Russia came out on top in Europe in terms of venture capital investments is Rusnano's merit? Created more than 80 funds in the Russian Federation. Israel has been building its nano for 20 years, we are only 5 years old. and what is planned according to the plan this year will earn 350 billion rubles is bad? Or how can you make money without investing anything?
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    2. aviamed90
      aviamed90 20 January 2014 11: 58
      +1
      ed65b

      I am not an economist.

      But something tells me that in our country it is possible.

      examples:
      - the famous "MMM",
      - GKO collapse (on 17 of August 1998, a technical default on GKOs was announced, the yield on which immediately before the crisis reached 140% per annum. After the economic crisis of 1998, investments in GKOs depreciated three times, moreover, the state froze all payments on its treasury bills) (WCP)

      1. ed65b
        ed65b 20 January 2014 12: 19
        -3
        where does the pyramid and Rosnano? not the topic of the post.
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        2. aviamed90
          aviamed90 20 January 2014 12: 20
          +3
          ed65b

          And despite the fact that one of the 4 tasks of RUSNANO is making a profit (It is assumed that in the interests of the state).

          And, as you know, for this there are a lot of legal, not quite legal and clearly illegal ways.

          Which way did RUSNANO choose?

          Question to which experts must answer.

          In addition, there are doubts that this (4-th task) overshadowed the 1-th (development of nanotechnology).
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 20 January 2014 13: 45
            -4
            Quote: aviamed90
            ed65b

            And despite the fact that one of the 4 tasks of RUSNANO is making a profit (It is assumed that in the interests of the state).

            And, as you know, for this there are a lot of legal, not quite legal and clearly illegal ways.

            Which way did RUSNANO choose?

            Question to which experts must answer.

            In addition, there are doubts that this (4-th task) overshadowed the 1-th (development of nanotechnology).

            So that's exactly what he says. And experts check. And by the way, he personally insisted on checking the SC of some structures and there are already landings. In the year 13 Rusnano earned 50 billion. plan for 14 - 350 and he is sure that he will fulfill it, since there is a backlog.
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            2. aviamed90
              aviamed90 20 January 2014 14: 10
              +4
              ed65b

              Do you believe in the "I didn't know!" Spell?

              By analogy with Serdyukov?

              Why shouldn't A. Chubais ask ("personally insist") the RF IC to investigate the results of privatization and reform of RAO UES?
              You need to start with these facts.

              Then the picture will be more complete.

              Mowing "loot", of course, is a good and profitable occupation, but we forget about goal number 1 for "RUSNANO" (written in its Charter - the decree of the government of the Russian Federation No. 55 dated 07.02.011, site "rusnano.com") - "assistance implementation of state policy in the field of creation and development of the nanoindustry and the corresponding innovation infrastructure ".
            3. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 15: 32
              +6
              Quote: ed65b
              In the year 13 Rusnano earned 50 billion.

              The net loss of Rusnano under Russian accounting standards (RAS) for the six months of 2013 exceeded 1,32 billion rubles. For the same period last year, this figure was 439,86 million rubles. According to ITAR-TASS, this is stated in the statements of the state corporation.
              There is nothing to add. hi
              P.S. Although there is -
              remuneration paid to the top management of the company from 2010 to 2012 in the amount of 572 million rubles. Moreover, in 2011, according to the results of the financial activities of the Company, a loss of more than 3 billion rubles was recorded, and in 2012 - more than 24 billion rubles.
  • moremansf
    moremansf 20 January 2014 11: 53
    +3
    Unsinkable Chubais ... how he succeeds ... he knows a lot, that's why they don’t touch !!
  • awg75
    awg75 20 January 2014 12: 22
    0
    amazing scoundrel !!! I know, after all, that there is no place to put a thief on which the mark is, but anyway there is no antipathy ...
  • Megre
    Megre 20 January 2014 12: 27
    +10
    Old photo in the subject.
    1. Field
      Field 20 January 2014 13: 22
      +3
      Sobchak is now "Great", and his work lives on ...

      How sad
    2. Power
      Power 20 January 2014 21: 39
      +1
      But Putin was the sixth number, so he remained the campaign.
  • Megre
    Megre 20 January 2014 12: 42
    +8
    This photo is better.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 20 January 2014 13: 01
    +4
    <<< While giving a lecture at Skolkovo (another "megaproject"), Chubais complained that private business is showing very little interest in innovation. >>>
    Another confirmation of how the business community evaluates the activities of this "effective manager"! It seems that there are no fools to invest in projects led by Chubais and his accomplices, the main product of which today is NOODLES ON THE EARS!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 20 January 2014 14: 31
      +1
      Quote: Goldmitro
      <<< While giving a lecture at Skolkovo (another "megaproject"), Chubais complained that private business is showing very little interest in innovation. >>>

      But in this part, Chubais is right, no matter how he was blasphemed. Our private business does not like to take risks, they need profit now and a lot. Therefore, they will quickly invest in the raw materials industry than in innovation.
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  • bubla5
    bubla5 20 January 2014 13: 03
    +2
    Yeah
    redhead, threw people on vouchers
    1. Field
      Field 20 January 2014 13: 24
      +3
      Why immediately threw it?
      It’s just cruel to *** l, and nobody is going to review the results of privatization.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 20 January 2014 14: 34
        +3
        Quote: Field
        and nobody is going to review the results of privatization.

        Still going laughing

        1. Oskar
          Oskar 20 January 2014 15: 16
          +4
          Yes, everything has been clear with him for a long time!
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 15: 37
            +5
            Quote: Oskar
            Yes, everything has been clear with him for a long time!

            Not everyone. In our country, it’s good for those who are in the topic and who are not in the know.
  • tochila
    tochila 20 January 2014 13: 11
    +1
    Chubais - the founder of the red cat breed in Russia
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 20 January 2014 13: 22
    +3
    In the photo of Megre: we’re not letting go of our own! That’s why Chubais is unsinkable. True, Sobchak died after Viagra on a damsel, pointing the horns of Mr. Sobchak.
    That's Chubais innovation! As in the past, the redhead will deceive and tear Rusnano.
  • nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 20 January 2014 13: 59
    +2
    Do not scold him for a guarantee of stability in the country.
  • hitech
    hitech 20 January 2014 14: 10
    +5
    RUSNANO is a "parable in the tongues":
  • kirgudu
    kirgudu 20 January 2014 15: 08
    +6
    I want to take and put him on a stake from one surname Chubais.
    I think everyone remembers a scam called privatization. It is necessary to judge this nit, to judge for "Treason to the Motherland".
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 15: 39
      +3
      Quote: kirgudu
      You need to judge this nits,

      Who are the judges?
      Griboedov.
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 20 January 2014 15: 55
        +3
        Exactly. For me personally, the only and uncontested sign of power, I will agree with my people, there will be a landing of Chubais and his ilk for 25 years.











        from power
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 20 January 2014 17: 51
      +1
      Quote: kirgudu
      It is necessary to judge this nit, to judge for "Treason to the Motherland."

      But did he betray his homeland? It is necessary to judge, but for crimes and they are comparable with military operations against our country, about punishment ... there is no one that would be comparable to his crimes, any will be too lenient.
    3. jjj
      jjj 21 January 2014 08: 39
      0
      By the way, few people already remember that the real author of the privatization was someone named Yavlinsky. Chubais only embodied
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  • hitech
    hitech 20 January 2014 15: 26
    +4
    Eh ... since it started, then there’s no other way ...
  • hitech
    hitech 20 January 2014 15: 57
    +3
    For some reason, all their achievements come down to this ...
  • family tree
    family tree 20 January 2014 16: 54
    +4
    At the same time, a completely remarkable thing is indicated in the strategy: the transfer of a controlling stake to private owners should take place only if the total proceeds from the sale of Rusnano products amount to about 300 billion rubles.

    Ha! The trademark "Chupacabra" is to select a chicken that lays golden eggs from the enterprise and grab it with the proviso that it must still carry golden eggs, but in the pockets of the grabber. In RAO UES, it was large generating enterprises and sales companies that were taken over, and there was also a stipulation that the modernization of power plants would be carried out only under the condition of liberalization of electricity prices, that is, if the state sticks to regulation, then all profits will go, purely into the pockets of the privatizers. Here, it appears, too, he insured himself, as I understand it that if the income is less than 300 billion, then the profit does not deserve attention, to lift a finger for it.
  • Mestny
    Mestny 20 January 2014 16: 56
    0
    Quote: baltika-18
    The site "made by us" came out of the Art Motor office (web studio). This office cooperated with the management of K. So this is another powerful project.

    That is, there is no trust in him, do I understand you correctly?
    Quote: Fin
    Do you know how many hours a day they worked? And the fact that in the village they put workdays, and not paid salaries? And all this is starving. Ask that generation. Are you ready in this mode with a pick and shovel, or with a jackhammer in the face?

    I'm ready. And many are ready. Otherwise, nothing will work.
    Are you not ready?
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 20 January 2014 18: 09
      +1
      Quote: Mestny
      That is, there is no trust in him, do I understand you correctly?

      We understood him correctly, he and many others doubt the goals and objectives of these "activities with us", it is more important not what you are doing at the moment, but for what, what in the end.
      Quote: Mestny
      I'm ready. And many are ready. Otherwise, nothing will work.
      Are you not ready?

      I support! And about the workdays: the country is not in the same state as at that time + it is important to free ourselves from the 5th column because then she created half the difficulties and is now doing it. But we must not forget that a person does not live for bread, a people cannot be united by a tale of a strong economy! Changes should be revolutionary, the main priorities should be the growth of consciousness, awareness.
  • homosum20
    homosum20 20 January 2014 17: 16
    +2
    The ginger prison was crying, and now is sobbing soberly. And if you go up objectively (as the prosecutor approaches the thief of the feed bag), then his place near the wall is overgrown with moss.
  • Power
    Power 20 January 2014 17: 22
    +2
    And who is protecting this "Red Boy"? If everything is possible for him, Putin himself is on his parcels.
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 January 2014 17: 39
    0
    Quote: Strength
    And who is protecting this "Red Boy"? If everything is possible for him, Putin himself is on his parcels.


    Calm guys:

    "On January 28, the Rusnano Board of Directors intends to make a decision on the early termination of Anatoly Chubais's powers and transfer them to the management company, which he also heads," Interfax reports.
  • sxn278619
    sxn278619 20 January 2014 17: 51
    +1
    There is a company Rusnano. She was both state and will remain.
    According to the agency, the council will consider the business plan of the company until 2020, select candidates for election to the management bodies of the management company, created in mid-October to attract private investors.

    It is expected that this year the maximum share of private investors in its capital may be 20%. Of these, 10% will be bought out by a strategic investor, and another 10% - by the management of RUSNANO.

    The agency notes that unlike Rusnano, its management company will be privatized: its co-owners will be fund investors and top managers of the management company itself, headed by its leader Chubais, who has already acquired “less than 1%” in the capital of the management company.

    Read more http://rusplt.ru/news/sovet-direktorov-rosnano-planiruet-dosrochno-prekratit-pol
    nomochiya-chubaysa-81843.html
  • Sedoy
    Sedoy 20 January 2014 18: 04
    +2
    > Chechen Republic. An enterprise for the production of electric meters was opened. The planned number of jobs is 200.

    the author probably fucked up ... :)

    only in Krasnodar it was closed:
    Spare parts and accessories - factory of measuring instruments
    RIP - plant of radio measuring instruments
    CASCADE - equipment of communication centers, means of information systems
    SATURN - solar panels
    Strain gadget - instrument making
    Sedina factory - cnc machines

    this is a small fraction of high-tech industries, and which worked from 2 to 12 thousand in each ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 January 2014 18: 29
      +2
      Quote: Sedoy
      Spare parts and accessories - factory of measuring instruments

      2007 Readership Capture. While Good Morning.
      Quote: Sedoy
      RIP - plant of radio measuring instruments


      Company Information

      LLC "RIP-Impulse" - the successor of OJSC "Company Impulse", the former Krasnodar plant of radio measuring instruments (RIP), then the Krasnodar production association "Impulse" - one of the leading manufacturers of electronic measuring devices in Russia and the CIS

      The factory is working; you don’t have to shake it; there is a factory site, check it out.
      Quote: Sedoy
      CASCADE - equipment of communication centers, means of information systems

      Judging by the infe in the internet the plant is working, where did you get that it is closed?
      Quote: Sedoy
      SATURN - solar panels

      To buy solar batteries
      From 22 r. / Watt, 305 watts - 7500 r, 1 kW 22000 r. - Delivery to the regions!
      Address and phone number svenergiya.com ??? I found something wrong or ...
      Quote: Sedoy
      Strain gadget - instrument making

      In the internet there are plant products, I did not find any information about closing
      Quote: Sedoy
      Sedina Plant - state of the art machines

      Here is the factory site and the products offered for today. Http://www.stankozavodsedin.ru/product/
      So this is not the author, and you fucked up!
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 21 January 2014 00: 17
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        Sanya ATP. Indirectly but supported hi
    2. Power
      Power 20 January 2014 20: 44
      +1
      If for garlic, then the kids do one thing and say (for us) exactly the opposite, like for suckers.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 20 January 2014 18: 14
    -9
    Yes, gentlemen, at least choke on your own saliva, and Chubais will be led by Rusnano and God forbid that this would be to the benefit of the state. And the benefit will be.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 20 January 2014 18: 23
    +2
    Redhead, which Rusnano privatized, for himself beloved ...

    The Board of Directors of OJSC Rusnano planned to decide on the early termination of powers of the head of the company’s board, Anatoly Chubais, on January 28, the company’s press service informed.

    In mid-October, the Rusnano board of directors approved the creation of Rusnano Managing Company LLC. Chubais became the chairman of the board of this society. The authorized capital of the management company was one million rubles. Of this amount, 990 thousand rubles were contributed by Rusnano, and the remaining ten thousand - by Chubais, ITAR-TASS reported earlier with reference to kartoteka.ru. The head of Rusnano announced on January 16 that he had bought a stake in the LLC in the amount of less than one percent.

    The management company was created to attract private investors, whose ownership in 2013 will be transferred to 20 percent of the LLC. Of this share, a strategic investor will buy ten percent, and another ten - the management of RUSNANO.
    “What will be the principle? Very simple. There will be a real market assessment of the management company. And just like our partner - a strategic investor - will enter there, at the same price, my colleagues and I will purchase a ten percent package, ”Chubais explained.
    After 2015, a controlling stake in the management company may be in the hands of private investors. For this, it is necessary that Rusnano fulfilled its targets and increased its revenue from sales of nanoproducts to 300 billion rubles. Until this moment, control over the asset management company will remain with Rusnano, 100 percent of which belongs to the Federal Property Management Agency.
    The management company Rusnano was created as part of a new business strategy, which involves the separation of management and ownership of assets. This separation is consistent with international direct investment practice. Under the management of the Criminal Code, new nanotechnology investment funds will be formed in the future.
    1. family tree
      family tree 20 January 2014 18: 46
      +2
      Quote: Russ69
      Redhead, which Rusnano privatized, for himself beloved ...

      Not only management and dividends, these enterprises surrendered to him, it is necessary to work there.
    2. jjj
      jjj 21 January 2014 08: 59
      +1
      This is where the last paragraph is most interesting: the separation of management functions and asset ownership. To put it simply, the management company will not own Rusnano, but will only conduct business. The owner of "Rusnano" can hire another management company at any time. Chubais is actually being taken out of the game. Of course, you need to look at the charter documents of the Criminal Code. But, if this is done, then this is a real information bomb.
      And Vladimir Vladimirovich recently spoke about foreign agents surrounded by Chubais for a reason
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 20 January 2014 18: 48
    +2
    It seems to me that Rusnano is a temptation and an attic for Chubasoids. Does not bring profit by the specified date? Eliminate nafig, and you, gentlemen, managers, on bunks for the misuse of funds from the budget or simply retire. I do not impose an opinion on anyone.
  • konvalval
    konvalval 20 January 2014 19: 13
    +1
    They distracted us with the Olympics from the "nanboy". In the meantime, it began in Skolkovo. One went to Silicon Valley, looked, came, consulted with another "experienced manager" and started one percent at a time. Misha was 2%, Tolya became 1%, and how many other%?