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Summary data on damage from flooding in the Amur region

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The Ministry of Nature has published data on damage from a large-scale flood in the Far East. The assessment of the ministry is quite streamlined and is presented in the following version: more 25 billion rubles. The question is, how much more? If this is, for example, 25,5 billion, the use of the term adverb “more” can still be understood, but if it is 40 or 50 billions of rubles of damage (and such data lead research centers not controlled by the Russian government), then “more” looks very strange . Although the Ministry of Environment can rightly say: if 40 billion is no more than 25, you can throw a stone at us.
And today, many localities of the Far East can not fully recover from those disasters with which they had to face. If in sufficiently large cities, the consequences of the flood were eliminated (and not in all regions), the villages or provincial cities continue to deal with restoration issues on their own. Some buy for their money well pumps (new wells), as the old ones are simply clogged with mud and debris, others dry the houses with heat guns and heaters in order to carry out a major overhaul in the spring.
Record marks of raising the level of the Amur and other Far Eastern rivers led to the flooding of thousands of square kilometers in several regions of the country. Floods affected the northern provinces of China. The pictures taken by NASA clearly show how the profile of Cupid changed during the peak of the flood in August 2013 compared to previous time periods. These images alone make it possible to understand the scale of the flood. If you see with your own eyes what people in the Far East have had to face, you can no longer shoot any disaster film, since no Hollywood film compares with what happened last year in the Amur Region.
According to the Emergency Situations Minister, the flood has not yet said its last word. After winter, it can still manifest itself, since the groundwater level remained at a very high level. That is why the authorities of the affected regions need to actively prepare for the spring flood to prevent a disaster from recurring.
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  1. RUSS
    RUSS 18 January 2014 09: 33
    +14
    Too bad people, I hope they can restore everything.
    My father lives in the village, he runs the farm himself, he also built the house from scratch, so I understand the trouble of the Amur region, how I’ll imagine if I was flooded and destroyed by what he had cared for and cherished for years, put his soul into the land and the house, and then - once and in an instant water !. But many farms cannot be restored, houses are for demolition ... and it is not known what quality the new ones will be.
    1. Civil
      Civil 18 January 2014 12: 05
      +3
      Not one year will be restored
      1. almost demobil
        almost demobil 18 January 2014 13: 22
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        Not one year will be restored

        The catastrophe will continue this spring, as the earth is saturated with water, in addition, the upper layer is frozen. There is nowhere to go in the melt of spring water, it will not go into the ground, which means flooding again.
        The result of the actions of the Ministry of Emergency Situations showed that this organization has already outlived its own, I mean actions on the global subject, intersubject and federal scale emergency situations, the bulk of the work was carried out by the army, which is armed with heavy special equipment. The EMERCOM itself now has almost nothing of its own, sits on the neck of the governors and receives everything from the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and municipalities. It is for this reason that Shoigu came up with a proposal to Putin to take his offspring under the wing of the Moscow Region (remember the GO troops). Mass OShM in the ranks of the Ministry of Emergencies, reassignment and reduction of a very bloated apparatus are coming. And it is right! And it would be nice to decide before the spring, it will be difficult on the Far.
        1. 31231
          31231 18 January 2014 14: 01
          0
          The catastrophe will continue this spring, as the earth is saturated with water, in addition, the upper layer is frozen. There is nowhere to go in the melt of spring water, it will not go into the ground, which means flooding again.


          And what in winter did not freeze the upper layer of the earth in previous years? Do you know winter temperatures in that area?
          In general, the more moisture there is in the soil, the less it freezes. The marshes are usually not frozen, but the hills grabs heavily.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 18 January 2014 14: 17
            +3
            In general, you are right. But to call the swampy places where the houses that were flooded were built, personally my tongue does not turn. The same applies to farmlands, for spring in the Khabarovsk Territory it is predicted that the sowing of crops due to overmoistening of the soil normally and in full will not be possible.
            Nighttime temperatures in mid-January are below -35, and this seems like no limit. In the area of ​​Komsomolsk-on-Amur is the boundary of the permafrost.
          2. almost demobil
            almost demobil 18 January 2014 19: 28
            +2
            Quote: 31231
            And what in winter did not freeze the upper layer of the earth in previous years? Do you know winter temperatures in that area?

            The layer froze, but it wasn’t filled like a sponge, there’s nowhere to go; however, I already wrote this, so if this is not clear in words, then try to experiment with the same sponge soaked in water, blot a puddle of water. I represent temperatures, not south.
            1. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 18 January 2014 19: 50
              +1
              Again The layer froze, but it wasn’t filled like a sponge, there’s nowhere to go
              The maximum flood comes from melting snow, and it ALWAYS occurs on frozen ground.
              Drowned on the Amur River in the autumn flood, the flood of rain. It will be repeated only if cyclones converge again.
              This flood had 1% coverage (i.e. 1 time in 100 years)
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 19 January 2014 00: 12
                0
                I propose to cancel the Olympic Games and restore the Amur Region! There will still be money left for the rearmament of the army!
              2. igor.borov775
                igor.borov775 19 January 2014 06: 13
                0
                What are you writing about? It’s embarrassing even to read the flood to your knowledge began in the summer and don’t need to write garbage here; it lasted almost 3 months if you don’t know, look at the hydromet reports.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 19 January 2014 09: 42
                  0
                  I know when the flood began fool
                  but now that money is not needed to restore the Amur region? Already restored everything?
        2. Evgenij.
          Evgenij. 18 January 2014 19: 37
          +3
          The result of the Ministry of Emergency Situations showed that this organization has already outlived its
          You are mistaken, as a result of terrible events no one died! For this alone, you can praise the Mchovtsy. And given the scale, the help of the army does not seem to be something wrong.
          The catastrophe will continue this spring, as the earth is saturated with water, in addition, the upper layer is frozen. There is nowhere to go in the melt of spring water, it will not go into the ground, which means flooding again.
          Even more stupid, if the river returned to its channel, then the UGV was asleep.
          And flood (spring) waters are never "absorbed", because the earth has not yet thawed after winter
    2. avg
      avg 18 January 2014 12: 13
      +7
      I will tell you directly, there is no need to grimace or be shy about something. After the collapse of the USSR, after rather serious and, frankly, bloody events in the Caucasus, the general state of society was depressing and pessimistic. We need to shake things up. To understand and feel that we can carry out large-scale, large-scale projects, the President said.

      According to the mind, it is necessary to build a new infrastructure, taking into account the changed situation, at a new, modern level, and in addition immigrants for this to invite. This will be a real big deal that can unite the country and which will not cause rejection of a sufficiently large part of society.
      1. 31231
        31231 18 January 2014 14: 05
        -1
        According to the mind, it is necessary to build a new infrastructure, taking into account the changed situation, at a new, modern level, and in addition immigrants for this to invite.


        According to the mind, floaters must draw conclusions and build on drier places. But this will not happen, for we are such Russians. In the spring of Ust-Kut, Irkutsk Region, Lena regularly floats part of private housing. Almost everyone still lives there and just prepares for flooding in advance.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 18 January 2014 14: 52
          +5
          So flooded those areas where the water had never been before. In Komsomolsk, many have suffered because of the inaction of local authorities. When the Amur region was drowned, our local leaders were inactive, although there was an opportunity to strengthen the dams. So many problems could be avoided.
          1. Evgenij.
            Evgenij. 18 January 2014 19: 57
            -4
            And how should they act? or are you in the management of hydraulic engineering?
            When exchanges collapse, how do you act? right, no way.
            So here you can’t argue against nature.
            Water can be handled only in advance by building protective structures. And to build them in places that have never been drowned is stupid, but people will howl, it’s better to give money to grandmothers, because all GTS are terribly expensive
            although it was possible to strengthen the dams it will only help if you do it BEFORE big water arrives
            1. zyablik.olga
              zyablik.olga 19 January 2014 00: 31
              +6
              Quote: Evgenij.
              And how should they act? or are you in the management of hydraulic engineering?

              The flood wave went down the Amur, and in the localities, the authorities only gave soothing reports in the media. To understand that there would be a lot of water, it was not necessary to be a "hydraulic engineer", although this is from another area. Of course, it was impossible to prevent the flooding of many settlements. But in Komsomolsk, some areas suffered precisely because of the breakthrough of the dams that were not fortified during the time.
        2. Evgenij.
          Evgenij. 18 January 2014 19: 54
          +1
          I will surprise you, in Russia it always drowns in the spring, because the rivers flow to the NORTH!
          1. 31231
            31231 18 January 2014 20: 52
            0
            Alas, you will not surprise me. Because I know the cause. The upper reaches are to the south and open earlier, and the lower reaches are still in ice.
    3. zanoza
      zanoza 18 January 2014 13: 46
      +4
      If this, for example, is 25,5 billion, then the use of the term “more” can still be understood, but if it is 40 or 50 billion rubles of damage (and such data are provided by research centers not controlled by the Russian government), then “more” looks very strange.

      It seems that the figure "... more than 25 billion ..."This is an undervaluation. Fitted to the number of funds allocated from Cetra to the affected areas, plus local opportunities. How scandalously assess the damage in relation to people's housing - a lot of examples. And people complained to the Prime Minister and the President about egregious cases of not underestimating the damage .... Look at the percentage of the distribution of damage between municipal property and urban (rural) life support facilities on the one hand, and residential premises, houses, farmsteads, household buildings, losses of livestock, private property, etc. etc. on the other hand. Something tells me that the result will not be in favor of the latter.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 18 January 2014 18: 00
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      It is a pity for the people, I hope they can restore everything. My father lives in the village, he runs the farm himself, he also built the house from scratch, so I understand the trouble of the Amur region

      We all perfectly understand what grief it is, but the point is that what funds do not allocate to our official - everything is small, they really cannot even determine the amount of damage! Guessing like on a thick coffee and there is no end to the problems!
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 18 January 2014 09: 46
    +4
    Yeah, there was no sugar for the population, and so it was a terrible flood .. Putin seems to have visited it again with a re-check .. There, in fact, everything was washed away .. (one is glad that the Chinese ..) Financing is going on .. they steal everything But maybe the region will be updated and get a new impetus for development .. I would very much like to eat up on it ..
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 January 2014 09: 54
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Yeah, there’s no sugar for the population there.

      To the article about sugar, the products go there from the state reserve, sugar costs 22 r per kilogram, buckwheat is 10 per kg in stores.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 18 January 2014 11: 23
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Yeah, there’s no sugar for the population there.

        To the article about sugar, the products go there from the state reserve, sugar costs 22 r per kilogram, buckwheat is 10 per kg in stores.

        Well, God forbid! The main thing is that speculators do not outbid dealers .. (immediately shoot such ..) I really want the Far East to become a powerful region. in all areas .. The potential is huge ...!
      2. Amur
        Amur 18 January 2014 12: 54
        +3
        They lie, there are no such prices with us.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 January 2014 12: 55
          +4
          Quote: Amur
          They lie, there are no such prices with us.

          Today I talked with my mother, she bought sugar for 22 rubles in a store. She lives in Komsomolsk on Cupid. So let's not lie to the bill. And down there Bongo came to the site, he seems to be from Komsa.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 18 January 2014 13: 04
            +2
            Like there was information that these goods will be sold through the trading network "Vitte" which, for certain reasons, favors Mikhalev. But I can’t say anything concretely, I haven’t seen any goods from the reserve yet.
      3. Bongo
        Bongo 18 January 2014 12: 57
        +3
        With all due respect, Alexander, but I have not yet met them in stores, although there was such information in the local media. Do not tell me where they are implemented?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 January 2014 13: 19
          +3
          Quote: Bongo
          Do not tell me where are implemented?

          I'll call you back.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 January 2014 13: 26
            +5
            For Bongo, in general, mom says the ATLANTA store, the former OCTOBER on Oktyabrsky Avenue, bought it there today. The people really seem to be a lot, it’s understandable.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 18 January 2014 13: 29
              +7
              Thank you, Alexander! So it turns out that we live in Komsomolsk, and we receive information from the outside. I'll tell my parents too, maybe they'll take it cheaper.
            2. Takashi
              Takashi 18 January 2014 18: 19
              +2
              former "October" ?????? :): :) :) :) :) :)

              It is immediately felt that you are not "real" Komsomol members. Former shop (vegetable) - 70th.
              Now called Atlanta. Belongs to the Bitte Network.
              1. mivmim
                mivmim 21 January 2014 12: 25
                -4
                I agree with Takashi. If they are Komsomol members, then I am a balerun.
                ATLANTA store, this is not the former OCTOBER on Oktyabrsky Prospekt, but the former store No. 70, though not a vegetable store but "Prodtorg". And "October" is a former cinema, the present Theater of the Young Spectator "Mirror of Shadows" on Pr. World 7.
                Yes, bongo, for YOU I appeal to those whom I respect, and not to those who have a head only for idle talk.
                1. mivmim
                  mivmim 21 January 2014 15: 00
                  -4
                  Minus if there is nothing to say.
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 21 January 2014 15: 10
                    +3
                    They grind out people with sanity, not hams.
  3. kelevra
    kelevra 18 January 2014 09: 49
    +3
    It is very pleasing that they helped to solve the problems with the flood and after it, all of Russia! No one was indifferent to the misfortune of people!
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 18 January 2014 09: 52
    0
    It's hard to say what you don’t see, legs, yeah, with your fingers, yes, exactly, with your toes. -VVP said, but .... the representative of the President is warm ..
  5. RUSS
    RUSS 18 January 2014 09: 54
    +7
    Recently I read it on the Internet, some scientists consider this flood to be a blessing, saying that the earth will be saturated with useful minerals and all sludge (I don’t remember exactly). I would like to hear what the inhabitants of the Amur region think about such scientists ... fool .

    The only plus if you can call it that, as MIKHAN has already noticed, is that the Chinese have been washed away with their greenhouses with chyme.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 19 January 2014 14: 16
      +1
      Is that a plus? Dragged all the poison below - to our shores. And because of this. what's bad for a neighbor - negative
  6. machete
    machete 18 January 2014 10: 15
    +4
    It is absolutely clear that you have to build and create everything anew. Explicitly damage is much more than 25 billion
  7. mountain
    mountain 18 January 2014 10: 16
    +4
    In childhood, it’s true, but I saw it live in Transbaikalia, such an element, horror, and for many years problems with buildings and land. Real trouble. The good news is that our population does not remain indifferent and helps as much as it can.
    1. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 18 January 2014 20: 05
      +1
      Yakutia 2004
  8. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 18 January 2014 10: 34
    +1
    The promising rulers! First, they promised people housing before the New Year, then until the summer, now for the winter of 2014! A couple of elite villages built in the suburbs "with their sweat and blood" earned "" would be sold and proved that they are really democrats, or at least the stolen from Serdyukov's gang was taken away.
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 18 January 2014 11: 10
      +7
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      The promising rulers! First, they promised people housing before the New Year, then until the summer, now for the winter of 2014! A couple of elite villages built in the suburbs "with their sweat and blood" earned "" would be sold and proved that they are really democrats, or at least the stolen from Serdyukov's gang was taken away.

      you chat, know the measure. until the new year he was impatient. it’s the staff from New Orleans since 2005 can’t put in order, people are homeless. and in the Far East, work is in full swing.
  9. AVV
    AVV 18 January 2014 10: 48
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Yeah, there was no sugar for the population, and so it was a terrible flood .. Putin seems to have visited it again with a re-check .. There, in fact, everything was washed away .. (one is glad that the Chinese ..) Financing is going on .. they steal everything But maybe the region will be updated and get a new impetus for development .. I would very much like to eat up on it ..

    For those who steal from people in such a situation, shooting on the spot according to the laws of wartime !!!
  10. VADEL
    VADEL 18 January 2014 10: 51
    +1
    Our brave embezzlers can bring a figure up to 100 billion. Their appetite is not childish and conscience is zero.
  11. homosum20
    homosum20 18 January 2014 11: 19
    +6
    I have a friend - deputy. gene. Director for Construction of Polyus-Zoloto OJSC (This is the largest organization in the Magadan Region, and the largest gold mining company in Russia). He led the headquarters for rescuing infrastructure from floods. Flood protection is practically embankment of everything that needs to be preserved, reinforcing what can be washed away and not collapsed (bridges, for example). And this is equipment, fuel, standard hours of equipment operators. And they had to save, for the most part, the objects for which the local (Magadan authorities) are responsible. In his words, this government has shown complete impotence, no decisions, passive waiting for someone to help. Well, begging for equipment (of course, free of charge), since there is practically no one of our own.
    The flood somehow managed. The gene was fired at Pole Gold. directors (apparently for the overspending of shareholders ’funds, for which he could not account for and compensate (I’ll say again, neither the state, nor the local government paid a penny for using the company's equipment to save the facilities under their jurisdiction). The pole-gold froze the construction at the largest the country of the field (Natalka) and never mind paying suppliers (for equipment already supplied).
    This is how I see the flood in the Amur region and its consequences for the Magadan region, the economy and, in particular, the company in which I work.
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 18 January 2014 12: 03
      0
      inform.agentstvo One Familiar Told, not the most convincing source of information.
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov 18 January 2014 13: 31
        -1
        The position of a friend is named, therefore it is not an OBS. Duma should be elected, and mayors - appointed, so that in difficult times such chaos would not be. To do this, the mayor must be a specialist in the proper use of funds allocated by the Duma.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 18 January 2014 13: 35
          +4
          It would be naive to think that the appointed mayor, who does not depend on the will of the people living on the spot, will take care of their welfare.
    2. 31231
      31231 18 January 2014 14: 31
      +2
      I misunderstood something. Did pole-gold help in Magadan Oblast?
      And where does the
      This is how I see the flood in the Amur region and its consequences for the Magadan region,


      Where is the Amur Region and where is the Magadan Region?
      Are you here for the Pole-Gold decided to intercede or something ?! Let’s then, in order.
      1. Poles are one of the richest gold mining companies. Net profit in the region of 500 million greenery. Some of the owners of Suleyman and Prokhorov. Accordingly, it is stupid to crash.
      2. Do you know how all this help is written on paper in the first days of a disaster ?! They find one fool official (sometimes they simply bribe him) and sign his orders, of which only half or a third are completed. And then when the debriefing begins, the superiors often send applicants with these signed outfits. For they often create a commission that evaluates the real volume of work.
      3. Where was the equipment taken from? From Natalka and Nezhdaninsky in the Magadan region?
      And he gave a lot of Prokhorov and Suleiman’s equipment? And what did the mines stop at that time?
      Maybe all the equipment was involved in those communications that the mines themselves use?

      Here you are crying about muddy money, and the court for what? Or is there too much turbidity, which is easier on the Internet and the media to raise kipish?

      If you are not burdened, then answer my questions for clarification.
      1. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 18 January 2014 18: 06
        +3
        You ask the wrong questions, sergerz correctly pointed out that billions of green pieces of paper are being allocated to Ukraine and what about their lands? Private traders will always press - they are also engaged in commerce - but the state could really take the country's internal problems more seriously and not declare its obligations on paper.
    3. Takashi
      Takashi 18 January 2014 18: 23
      -4
      the question immediately arose: what was the flood in Magadan? Came the river from the banks and?
      Magadan Region and Khabarovsk Territory are essentially the 2nd poorly connected economically and transport areas. Pole Gold (ordinary sharaga, with foreign capital (they have a crisis)) only transports some of the material for processing to Amursk. (down the river).
    4. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 18 January 2014 20: 06
      0
      And I thought why Natalka was slowed down
  12. sergerz
    sergerz 18 January 2014 11: 45
    +4
    Our state can allocate a couple of billion dollars to Ukraine, is it really impossible to spend money on the Far East. Moreover, this region is becoming the face of our country.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 18 January 2014 19: 35
      +4
      Oh, well, even you haven't finished reading. Loot is given for an agreement on account of a loan for participation in the main enterprises of the Ukrainian state property (strategic enterprises), and if you are not an idiot, then you should understand what this "greyhound" agreement with Europedia can turn out to be for Russia? Russia can perfectly cope with both problems, if with the Far East it is a problem of embezzlement, then with Ukraine and the Sochi Olympiad it is much more difficult - there are more uncertain values
  13. propolsky
    propolsky 18 January 2014 12: 24
    +5
    It is hard to deal with the elements, but it is possible. The state is obliged to exert both a head and hands.
  14. Bongo
    Bongo 18 January 2014 12: 30
    +12
    For some reason, this flood was often called by local authorities as flooding. The water was such that even beluga dolphins managed to get lost in the forest. The photo shows a dolphin's corpse found in a forest on a hillside near the Hummi lake near Komsomolsk.
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 18 January 2014 12: 47
      -3
      authorities called flooding, and dolphins believed them and rested. what court will judge these authorities now? or make comments sane?
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 18 January 2014 12: 54
        +9
        Can this also be flooding? Lied enough, maybe it's time to call a spade a spade?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 January 2014 13: 00
          +7
          Quote: Bongo
          Can it be flooding too?

          Well, nobody was arguing that everything was serious, except those who live horseradish know where. But in the photo it’s autumn, the water has already left, it’s better to post a photo of what is now.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 18 January 2014 13: 10
            +4
            And what to spread, how people live in temporary accommodation centers or snow-covered streets with frozen houses. This is a photo of one of the streets of the village "Parkovy". The water that did not go away froze, the ice was covered with snow. Now you can safely drive, I often visit my friends there, they intensively heat the house, before winter they tried to dry it with a heat gun. But it's still damp in the house. And the neighbors have abandoned their homes, they live with relatives and children.
            1. mivmim
              mivmim 20 January 2014 19: 22
              -5
              Again the race. Bongo, where are you from so knowledgeable? Tell me, have you ever been to the Far East. It’s good to fill, there was so much water.)))))))))))))
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 21 January 2014 04: 53
                +3
                I don’t know since when we’re on "you". But if YOU did not carefully read the comments, then specifically for YOUI will explain - I am a resident of the glorious order-bearing city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Photos of the dolphin and flooded streets made by me personally. In the elimination of the aftermath of flooding and on the dams, too, unlike you participated.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 January 2014 12: 58
        +7
        Quote: Cayman Gena
        cayman gene

        Here you sit there in Ukraine and write nonsense, maybe you can drive up and see for yourself.
    2. mivmim
      mivmim 18 January 2014 12: 53
      -13%
      Gon)))))))))))))))))
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 18 January 2014 12: 58
        +3
        And can you specifically, what exactly is "Gon"?
      2. mivmim
        mivmim 20 January 2014 19: 15
        -7
        Dolphin on a hill - a rut. In fact, you know better in Ukraine))))))))))))))))))))))
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 21 January 2014 04: 57
          +2
          In the spring you can come to see what remains of the dolphin, I think the bears are not all bones crushed.
    3. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 18 January 2014 15: 37
      +5
      Quote: Bongo
      a dolphin’s corpse found in a forest on a hillside near Lake Hummi near Komsomolsk.

      On the hillside.
      Ahrinet ...
  15. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 18 January 2014 14: 42
    +7
    I am also from Komsomolsk, I can confirm that cereals and sugar in the "Bitte" network are really cheap, though you won't be full of cereals ... But for everything else, prices in the city are growing rapidly, especially for meat, milk, eggs, bread.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 18 January 2014 14: 46
      +3
      You have forgotten about the price of fuel and communal.
      1. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga 18 January 2014 14: 53
        +5
        This is exactly the price of heating, electricity and hot water were not shy to raise the second time in the last 3 of the month.
        1. alone
          alone 19 January 2014 01: 22
          +4
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          That's for sure, the prices for heating, light and hot water did not hesitate to raise for the second time in the last 3 months.


          mdyaya..not fun there with you. 2 times a quarter, and this is considering the fact that people can be said to have lost everything.
  16. 2014Bog2014
    2014Bog2014 18 January 2014 14: 44
    +4
    Cupid was all in the water - there’s a kapets am
  17. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 18 January 2014 15: 53
    +8
    This flooding will go around for a long time ... unfortunately, of course.

    Only in the spring and at the beginning of summer will it be visible that it has suffered. Calculation of damage now is preliminary data, it is necessary to survive the winter (how wet houses will tolerate frosts, how moist soil will freeze, whether the land will be fertile and ... much more).

    As Zabaykalets: I sincerely wish the residents of the Amur Region and other affected areas to quickly restore farms and buildings, clear the soil without consequences, and establish their usual way of life ...
    GOOD LUCK, and GOD help you.

    PTS-2 in Zeysky district of the Amur region:
  18. Russ69
    Russ69 18 January 2014 16: 14
    +4
    Great damage and other troubles, this is all clear. But what really pleased was the work of the Ministry of Emergencies and the army. With such a massive flood. There were no casualties among the population. In the same geyrop, with much smaller consequences, there are always victims in practice.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 18 January 2014 16: 33
      +4
      Quote: Russ69
      There were no casualties among the population.

      But the fighters (assisting the population during floods in those areas), died during my service, died in the past year .......................... ..........

      Bright memory.
      1. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 18 January 2014 20: 17
        +1
        How did they die? Are there any dead?
        1. almost demobil
          almost demobil 18 January 2014 21: 37
          +5
          Quote: Evgenij.
          How did they die? Are there any dead?

          Killed a contract soldier, a driver. The car left the flooded road and capsized, it seems MTLB. Many officers and soldiers caught a cold when they propped up a dam from the bags.
  19. konvalval
    konvalval 18 January 2014 16: 54
    +3
    Sincere sympathy to all flood victims. I think that no experts will be able to calculate the exact extent of the damage. All this can be determined after the restoration of everything. Undoubtedly, the state is obliged to bear all the costs of ensuring normal living conditions for all victims.
  20. AX
    AX 18 January 2014 17: 00
    +3
    Our guys were awarded medals ... They call them - "Medal - drowned man" ... For the fight against the elements ...
  21. bubla5
    bubla5 18 January 2014 18: 01
    +5
    Well, yes, yes, yes, no one b-d, not a single country beyond the hill, except the Chinese, has helped with this flooding, and our rulers as something happens in the world will immediately take out humanitarian aid from the country on behalf of the people by airplanes and kamazs
    1. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 18 January 2014 20: 18
      +4
      If around, this does not mean that we should be the same
  22. Bongo
    Bongo 19 January 2014 00: 35
    +3
    Article: "Komsomolsk-on-Amur. A look from the inside."

    http://topwar.ru/35658-komsomolsk-na-amure-vzglyad-iznutri.html
  23. Andrey44
    Andrey44 19 January 2014 02: 07
    +2
    During the war, my father was evacuated in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (1943). Says there the same flooded lowlands. He says we begin to dig potatoes on dry ground, and after half an hour we are getting elbow-deep in water. There has always been, though to a lesser extent (the locals won't let you lie.) What could not have been foreseen? The authorities need to "master" the budget, but no one needs long-term forecasts. Anomalies of nature - I do not consider it an excuse. And where do people who have lost their homes spend the winter? Maybe we need to hold the Olympics there. Otherwise, we have built roads for the Universiade in Kazan, which should have been built ten years ago. We need the World Games in the Far East, otherwise they will again blow everything to hell.
  24. pamero
    pamero 19 January 2014 11: 16
    +1
    Why yes. Medvedev was not visible with this flooding, he was flying somewhere? He is the prime minister who is obliged to organize liquidation of the consequences of the elements. Who knows where and what?
    1. almost demobil
      almost demobil 19 January 2014 12: 14
      0
      Who knows where and what? [/ Quote]
      He is nowhere and his name is nothing.
  25. Takashi
    Takashi 19 January 2014 14: 02
    +2
    Here is a sample map of hydraulic structures around the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur and its hydrology (historical).
    Before the construction of the hydroelectric power station, the water calmly reached even the Military honey of the Hospital (behind gorgaz) and flooded the basements of houses located on Garazhnaya St. and so on.
    The structure of the hydraulic engineering community ceased - with the collapse of the Union.

    Komsomolskoe highway in the area of ​​Teply Klyuch - flooded in the 80s :) :) :) tram tracks were also covered with water along with the road
  26. rocketman
    rocketman 19 January 2014 14: 12
    -1
    Quote: almost demobilized
    It is for this reason that Shoigu came up with a proposal to Putin to take his offspring under the wing of the Moscow Region (remember the GO troops). Mass OShM in the ranks of the Ministry of Emergencies, reassignment and reduction of a very bloated apparatus are coming. And it is right! And it would be nice to decide before the spring, it will be difficult on the Far.

    Strange, usually Ukraine repeats everything after Russia, but now we have dispersed the Ministry of Emergencies for a year, created a state emergency service and subordinated it to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. It's okay for now. pah-pah-pah .. repeat
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Here you sit there in Ukraine and write nonsense, maybe you can drive up and see for yourself.

    In western Ukraine, floods occur regularly - why travel?

    My question is - maybe the local knows how the flood of the airport and the military town of Khurba-2 survived the flood? My childhood passed there ...
    1. Takashi
      Takashi 19 January 2014 14: 23
      +1
      wonderful. The water has reached the edge of the runway. But the military did not "cry", but solved the problem simply: diggers and bulldozers drove up the trenches at the MTLB base and dug everything around on the sly.
      Lowlands and basements - flooded.
    2. almost demobil
      almost demobil 19 January 2014 18: 34
      +2
      Quote: rocketman
      Strange, usually Ukraine repeats everything after Russia, but now we have dispersed the Ministry of Emergencies for a year, created a state emergency service and subordinated it to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. It's okay for now.

      You see, during the formation of the Ministry of Emergencies there was no alternative, the GO troops no longer existed and at the first stage the Ministry of Emergency Situations paid off, especially with such a tractor as Shoigu. At the moment, the Ministry of Emergency Situations consists of the Ministry of Emergencies, the national MCC, regional MCC, the main departments for the regions and GU in the provinces, well, there are a couple of rescue centers (from the former regiments of GO). So the whole trick is that this whole apparatus, but it is big, has nothing of its own, everything lies on the shoulders of the governors. The functions of the Ministry of Emergencies are only to inflate the cheeks and produce pieces of paper, but meanwhile, given the above, all this could be managed either by a department or department in the regional administration. In secret, I’ll say that I myself am in this system now, and a little in the know. Well, then, so far everything is all right with the Ministry of Emergencies ... so you have everything in order in Ukraine crying No offense.
    3. Bongo
      Bongo 20 January 2014 07: 37
      +3
      The airfield and military camp were practically not affected by the measures taken, but the nearby villages of Novy Mir and Molodezhniy were heavily flooded.
  27. rocketman
    rocketman 19 January 2014 21: 35
    +2
    Quote: almost demobilized
    No offense.

    Come on, let's go. It’s just that in Ukraine each army unit was tasked with keeping a certain amount of equipment ready, and the commanders received a strict order to act immediately when addressing local authorities, rather than waiting for orders. Dispose of everything later. It turns out - the bureaucratic apparatus is not needed. Last year, during heavy snowfalls, the system worked. The people who participated in the clearing of roads didn’t let the people go - they went under the wheels .... They fed, watered, refueled - if only they would clear it. oddly enough, but it turned out that the army - the last hope of the people against the bureaucrats
    1. almost demobil
      almost demobil 20 January 2014 04: 51
      +2
      Quote: rocketman
      army is people's last hope against bureaucrats

      The army (of course) is man’s best friend! smile
    2. badger1974
      badger1974 21 January 2014 11: 15
      +4
      exactly, I confirm, since we (the Ministry of Taxes and Taxes and Avtodor) would not be able to handle cleaning with our equipment no matter how hard we tried, we expected help from the army like manna from heaven, and she came