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Thierry Maysan: US unleashed fourth generation war in Syria

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Thierry Maysan: US unleashed fourth generation war in Syria

The first protest journalist from France, a former member of the Libyan government, and Damascus correspondent Thierry Meyssan spoke about the prospects for resolving the Syrian conflict, about the US strategy towards Syria and why Assad’s policies will be studied by military theorists.


- When it comes to the Syrian opposition, we are in fact talking about puppets acting on behalf of external groups, which today have 11 and are united under the common name "Friends of Syria". The purpose of the Geneva Conference is to establish peace in Syria. Its legitimacy is based on a preliminary agreement signed by the United States and Russia more than a year and a half ago. Nevertheless, it was not possible to achieve the implementation of these agreements.

Will the mechanism work now at this Geneva-2 conference? It seems that yes, but there is no complete certainty. The United States always has the opportunity to sabotage the conference if they fail to impose their decision on the allies. The situation is very difficult, since the United States is the real customer of the war burning in Syria today. Let me remind you that this country declared war on Damascus already in 2003 year. Since then, Washington has constantly tried to start hostilities until the last moment, when the States actually delegated their prerogatives to initiate conflict to other countries — first France and Great Britain, then regional powers, namely Turkey, Jordan, and then Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

When you send others to war, it is difficult once to tell them: “Everything! Enough! We fought! Everyone went home because we lost!” This is exactly the situation that Washington has to cope with today. I said that they could try to sabotage the conference, because a meeting of the special court in Lebanon will take place. With the help of perjury, the States can again accuse Syria of killing Rafik Hariri. Perhaps the evidence will be withdrawn in a few months, but such a mechanism would break the process of the peace negotiations that had begun.

- What usually means when it comes to the Syrian opposition?

- There is no structured Syrian opposition. And it is not there because the United States decided from the very beginning. This power decided to unleash a war in Syria, which they call the war of the fourth generation, when it is waged there is a manipulation of mass consciousness. They are trying to prove to the population that it is already living in conditions of general devastation, that the fall of the government is inevitable, and so on. In such a situation, people convinced of the illusion themselves begin to organize the prescribed events. In the course of this war, it was decided to finance several disparate groups, differing from each other in their programs.

For a while it worked. But then the United States decided that the mechanism of action broke. And just then, to put an end to the war, the Geneva-1 conference was held. But a few months later, the United States, Israel, France, Qatar, and then Saudi Arabia again started the war, making a mass landing of jihadists from other countries.

But since it was initially assumed that there are many movements, it was not possible to create proper management of them. If we apply the right military strategy, then this is exactly what should have been thought of in the first place. For the same reason, the rebels lost the war on the ground. For the same reason, they fail to create a representative delegation for Geneva-2. Any composition of the delegation will reveal that we are talking about leaders of foreign organized criminal groups (OCGs) who illegally entered Syria.

- Do you think that Bashar Assad should stay at his post?

- I must immediately say that, according to numerous studies, Bashar al-Assad is supported from 60 to 88% of the Syrian population. Let's compare: in France, the president of the country is supported by about 15% of the population. So who then should leave power?

In addition, when you evaluate the modest military assets that the president had for waging war, it becomes clear why it was so difficult to achieve victory. It is a victory, since Aleppo is almost completely liberated, and the suburbs of Damascus are finally being cleaned by the regular army. To achieve this result, it took a long 3 of the year! During this time, foreign powers tirelessly sent new and new fighters to this front. The exact number is unknown: according to various estimates, the number ranges from 40 to 160 thousand people. Most likely, about 120 thousands of people continue the war in Syrian territory.

It took a lot of time, but Assad managed to win, despite the forces of the foreign coalition hostile to him. On the other hand, all this time its own government continued to operate in Syria. I live in Damascus. Here we have a normal supply system. And if you go, let's say, to the store for a can of sardines, be sure that you will buy sardines. Yes, we have a small variety of goods, but the desired will always be on the counter. The same can be said about the entire Mediterranean coast: there you will not only find a normal life, but also see for yourself that there is no military action.

Nevertheless, there are zones in the country where the authorities do not act. These are the so-called zones liberated by the armed opposition. But when we say that the state has gone from there, we mean that the state does not provide some services to the population. Note that some services still turn out to be: hospitals, for example, work, and children continue to be taught in schools! But after all these schools are funded by no means organized crime groups or foreign sponsors, they are financed by the government! The policy of Bashar al-Assad proved to be quite successful, which will undoubtedly be carefully studied by military theorists of a number of countries, since for the first time in stories the course of the fourth generation war went on an unusual course: for the first time in the world, foreign organized criminal groups abandoned from abroad were imposed on the state!
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  1. My address
    My address 18 January 2014 08: 23
    +28
    An interesting idea about the support of Hollande is less than 20% of the population and therefore it is time for him to rest. But then Obama is less legitimate than Assad! And the West’s claims for the replacement of Assad are calculated on the duped, because in Syria, the next president is unlikely to be an all-forgiving Tolstoy.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 18 January 2014 15: 18
      +36
      Assad is the lawfully elected president and he will not only wait out his term as president, but he will most likely nominate his candidacy for the next term and win.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 18 January 2014 15: 52
        +9
        Any composition of the delegation will reveal that we are talking about the leaders of foreign organized criminal groups (organized crime groups) who illegally entered Syria.

        Everything has already been revealed, proven and is constantly being confirmed, despite all the "blindness" and "deafness" of NATO and Co members in the UN.

        A document circulated in Geneva by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights confirms the mass executions carried out by militants in Syria, Lavrov said.

        “In parallel with the accusations against the Syrian government at a conference in Kuwait, a document of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights was distributed in Geneva. This document cites the facts of mass executions, killings and other atrocities committed by armed militants in the areas of Syria controlled by them, ”Lavrov said. According to him, in Aleppo, in Idlib, Rakia, opposition fighters, primarily from the so-called "State of Iraq and the Levant", massively execute civilians and shoot prisoners. In particular, executions were carried out even in one of the Aleppo hospitals, from which the militants made headquarters. And there are many such examples, ”the minister noted.
        http://russian.rt.com/article/20990

        1. Russ69
          Russ69 18 January 2014 16: 18
          +8
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Everything has already been revealed, proven and is constantly being confirmed, despite all the "blindness" and "deafness" of NATO and Co members in the UN.

          US experts have denied the guilt of the Bashar al-Assad regime in chemical attacks
          The range of sarin missiles used in the vicinity of Damascus indicates that they could not be fired by the Syrian armed forces, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to American experts - Professor of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Theodore Postol and former UN weapons inspector Richard Lloyd .
          Specialists published a study entitled "The Potential Consequences of Erroneous US Technical Intelligence on a Gas Attack in Damascus on August 21, 2013." It says that the range of missiles fired is about 2 km: “this means that the ammunition could not be released on Eastern Ghuta ... from the Syrian government-controlled area shown on a map with (declassified) intelligence information published by the White House 30 August 2013. " Troops-controlled areas were over 2 km away.
          In addition, experts refute the evidence that only the Syrian army could make rockets: "anyone with access to a mechanical workshop with modest capabilities" can make artisanal weapons.
          The US authorities call the early statements Postol and Lloyd a blatant mistake and require the White House administration to explain how they were made.
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 18 January 2014 17: 24
            +10
            Thierry Maysan: US unleashed fourth generation war in Syria


            True, they are still defeated in it, as a whole on the world stage and on the internal front. After a fairly short time, those US that we knew cease to exist.
          2. Gunsmith
            Gunsmith 18 January 2014 18: 40
            +6
            The states are caked. Such a statement should be considered in the context of the US withdrawal from Syria. It’s not the first time they are throwing * comrades-in-arms * - from a week ago, the information flashed that the West has stopped supplying the spirits with equipment to Syria and so on - they have not met expectations. Now it remains to surround * the opposition * and wait until they eat all the rats and other pasture. Havali each other, perhaps ... And then, sooner or later - the jihad will go home - well, Geyropa, wait a minute!
          3. APASUS
            APASUS 18 January 2014 18: 56
            +4
            Quote: Russ69
            US experts have denied the guilt of the Bashar al-Assad regime in chemical attacks

            Now it doesn’t matter and no one is interested in the West, Assad was appointed the culprit. Propaganda hype had only one purpose - to discredit the Syrian authorities And even if there is irrefutable evidence, the West will simply not notice it.
      2. sds555
        sds555 18 January 2014 16: 03
        +9
        And we need to help Assad a lot in this, otherwise we’ll lose our base in Tartus and we’re already helping!In the port of Novorossiysk, armored vehicles are loaded into landing ships following to Syria http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/conflicts/4575-1.html
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 19 January 2014 00: 05
          +7
          Quote: sds555
          In the port of Novorossiysk, armored vehicles are loaded into landing ships following to Syria

          Throughout 2013, our BDK carried military equipment there. In the West, they were called nothing other than the "Syrian Express". And during the period of the threat of intervention, our marines were sitting on the BDK in readiness to land and act on orders. And the Yankes and their accomplices knew this well.
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 19 January 2014 02: 20
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            Quote: BoA KAA
            Quote: sds555
            In the port of Novorossiysk, armored vehicles are loaded into landing ships following to Syria

            Throughout 2013, our BDK carried military equipment there. In the West, they were called nothing other than the "Syrian Express". And during the period of the threat of intervention, our marines were sitting on the BDK in readiness to land and act on orders. And the Yankes and their accomplices knew this well.

            Sitting for months on old BDKs, without air conditioning, in eight-tier bunks, without the ability to go for a run, but also to perform the simplest physical exercises, the paratroopers completely lost their alertness after two months as a compound. Given the irregular supply of perishable foods, fruits and vegetables It is unlikely that one can count on the physical endurance and combat stability of such an assault. No one such amusing landing was planning to engage for landing on the Syrian coast. This is evidenced by the absence of batching of a hospital ship, fire support helicopters, transport helicopters, AWACS aircraft, sufficient strength and means of PDSS, air reconnaissance. section of the coast to ensure the landing.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 19 January 2014 18: 30
              +5
              Quote: gunnerminer
              on old BDKs, without air conditioning, in eight-tier bunks, without the possibility of running, but also performing the simplest physical exercises, the paratroopers completely lost their combat readiness after two months as a compound.

              "Oh, how! And I did not know!" (C).
              And who to you, sitny friend, told such "terrible horrors" about the BDK pr 775? However, in order.
              In 1987 I had the opportunity to fulfill my "international duty" in Angola as part of OBK 130 BrNK SF and a "limited contingent" of advisers. So: there were air conditioners, but only on a closed residential module, through a general ventilation system. The temperature was maintained at + 20 * C. The paratroopers slept on 3-tiered bunks, exercising regularly in the morning in the chill, or in a twin-deck, between armored personnel carriers. When we came to Luanda, we ran cross-country runs. They fired from standard weapons both at sea and on the shore. They did not launch descents: they were afraid of sharks, but EITI was provided regularly. A living example was the blown up, half-submerged Cuban dry cargo ship. There was no question of loss of combat capability. Not a resort, but still easier than the constant workload in the native brigade.
              Given the irregular supply of perishable foods, fruits and vegetables, one can hardly rely on the physical endurance and combat stability of such an assault.
              Freshness was received regularly on the 10 day. Plus fish from the belly from our fishermen. The boys, in order not to swim with fat, swayed regularly, melting the fat into the muscles. A month later, I had to embroider flanks and suits.
              To the question of combat stability. This is the 2-th task (after capturing the landing base) it is solved exclusively by defensive combat tactics, the creation of platoon (company) strong points, the presence of anti-aircraft defense (air defense) means, ambushes, etc. Running here is directly contraindicated, so with the artillery of the 130 ships the BrnK was quite feasible. I think in the Tartus area - similarly.
              No one such amusing landing was going to attract for landing on the Syrian coast.

              Well, damn it, a strategist on my gray head!
              Landing of a foreign state in the territory of others. state-va - there is an act of military-political! And it means the entry of the state into the war. Or the blockade of the landing area, restricting the actions of the enemy aircraft. Although the 1 platoon of marines is a contingent of a foreign state. Attacking - raking up a military conflict, breaking deep relations, war. USers were not ready for this. Therefore, they leaked Izikov. I had the mind not to succumb to the persuasion of the Saudis, I did not even buy the generous promises to pay for the intervention ...
              the absence of a hospital ship, fire support helicopters, transport helicopters, AWACS aircraft, sufficient PDSS forces and aerial reconnaissance as part of the grouping.

              In a day, all this would have appeared with the Black Sea Fleet, ships of the 5 flotilla, etc.
              could not conduct engineering reconnaissance of a possible section of the coast to ensure the landing.

              And why all this, if the landing was supposed, let's say, to the port !?
              PS / It seems to me that this text (about the horrors of our BDK and the worthlessness of the Marines on them) is not the first time I have read it. Free advice: sir, change the record, and do not doubt our Marines: they will always fulfill their task, no matter how difficult it is for them, because their motto is: "WHERE WE ARE, THERE IS VICTORY!"
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 January 2014 13: 15
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                [quote = KAA boa constrictor] [quote = gunnerminer] on old BDKs, without air conditioning, in eight-tier bunks, without the possibility of running over, but also performing the simplest physical exercises, the paratroopers completely lost their combat readiness as a compound after two months. [/ quote]
                "Oh, how! And I did not know!" (C).
                And who to you, sitny friend, told such "terrible horrors" about the BDK pr 775? However, in order.
                In 1987 I had the opportunity to fulfill my "international duty" in Angola as part of OBK 130 BrNK SF and a "limited contingent" of advisers. So: there were air conditioners, but only on a closed residential module, through a general ventilation system. The temperature was maintained at + 20 * C. The paratroopers slept on 3-tiered bunks, exercising regularly in the morning in the chill, or in a twin-deck, between armored personnel carriers. When we came to Luanda, we ran cross-country runs. They fired from standard weapons both at sea and on the shore. They did not launch descents: they were afraid of sharks, but EITI was provided regularly. A living example was the blown up, half-submerged Cuban dry cargo ship. There was no question of loss of combat capability. Not a resort, but still easier than the constant workload in the native brigade.
                [quot "attract to land on the Syrian coast. [/ quote]
                Well, damn it, a strategist on my gray head!
                Landing of a foreign state in the territory of others. state-va - there is an act of military-political! And it means the entry of the state into the war. Or the blockade of the landing area, restricting the actions of the enemy aircraft. Although the 1 platoon of marines is a contingent of a foreign state. Attacking - raking up a military conflict, breaking deep relations, war. USers were not ready for this. Therefore, they leaked Izikov. I had the mind not to succumb to the persuasion of the Saudis, I did not even buy the generous promises to pay for the intervention ...
                [quote] the absence of a hospital ship, fire support helicopters, transport helicopters, AWACS aircraft, sufficient PDSS forces and aerial reconnaissance as part of the grouping. [/ quote]
                In a day, all this would have appeared with the Black Sea Fleet, ships of the 5 flotilla, etc.
                [quote] could not conduct engineering exploration of a possible stretch of coast to ensure the landing. [/ quote]
                And why all this, if the landing was supposed, let's say, to the port !?
                PS / It seems to me that this text (about the horrors of our BDK and the worthlessness of the Marines on them) is not the first time I have read it. Free advice: sir, change the record, and do not doubt our Marines: they will always fulfill their task, no matter how difficult it is for them, because their motto is: "WHERE WE ARE, THERE IS VICTORY!"[/ Quote]

                What you told was in 1987. I write about the conditions under which the current marines are serving. In addition, the advisers had little opportunity to closely contact the Soviet military. So sometimes get on board and cut off a couple of glasses of diluted ship wreck with commander. And so that the OO oper serving the connection doesn’t recognize anything. About Tartus I myself can hang a few pounds. I have been there more than once in the 80s. Not in the group of advisers.
              2. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 January 2014 13: 29
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                In a day, all this would have appeared with the Black Sea Fleet, ships of the 5 flotilla, etc.


                It wouldn’t have appeared in a month. GS Yenisei couldn’t retreat a couple of five-year periods safely from the berth. Moreover, the KCHF Medical Service, reformed to nothing, could not even equip a couple of surgical teams to provide military field surgery in a database. The epidemiologist’s doctor was hardly scratched through Moscow It is more likely to attract some local dervishes to assist.
              3. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 January 2014 13: 30
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                And why all this, if the landing was supposed, let's say, to the port !?



                But what, when disembarking at the port, there is no one to conduct concentrated fire on the landing troops? And there will not be a single wounded person, not even shell-shocked?
              4. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 January 2014 13: 39
                -1
                If the paratrooper does not run and does the main physical exercises for more than three weeks, his physical condition will deteriorate. In addition, in the eastern Mediterranean there is no one to provide fresh fish to military sailors, like 30 years ago. All trawl fleets are now private joint stock companies, owners living in Norway, To the USA, Israel, the lack of fresh fish in the diets of Russian marine pechrintians is deeply irrelevant. And to shipowners living in the picturesque Moskabad neighborhoods too.
              5. Greyfox
                Greyfox 20 January 2014 14: 08
                +1
                Dear KAA Boa. Do not argue with Guney (aka gunnerminer). He knows everything.
                The gunnerminer character became very famous for his comments on bmpd. He was caught on Russophobia and incompetence. Likes to speculate on naval topics, thickly sprinkling posts with terms and abbreviations. At the same time, he is fired either on ignorance of the forms of admission to information constituting a state secret, then he begins to treat the pilot YES about the types of Tu-95. He talked about the unsettledness of the pilots at the NITK in Yeisk, yellow stains on the mattresses of the sailors on the "Kuza", and about the toilets in Dzemgi.
                Now I look convincingly sets out about eight-tier beds on the BDK. He didn’t know that he would run into a man who saw these beds in real life.
                Gunya, every time I think you're at the bottom of the pit, you keep digging.
          2. sds555
            sds555 19 January 2014 18: 53
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            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Boa kaa

            There is information, what equipment was taken, for yourself or for Assad? If for Assad, then I wonder why it was not lit up on the video from the combat zone?
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 20 January 2014 14: 00
              0
              Quote: sds555
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Boa kaa

              There is information, what equipment was taken, for yourself or for Assad? If for Assad, then I wonder why it was not lit up on the video from the combat zone?


              It did not light up due to the acute shortage of trained Syrian crews for this equipment. The machines themselves do not perform tasks. They need trained drivers, operators, commanders. As well as trained unit commanders to manage these units. Losses affect.
      3. Sandov
        Sandov 18 January 2014 20: 54
        +4
        - I must immediately say that, according to numerous studies, Bashar al-Assad is supported from 60 to 88% of the Syrian population. Let's compare: in France, the president of the country is supported by about 15% of the population. So who then should leave power?

        And now the Yankees with their rats will rub us points?
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 January 2014 14: 07
          0
          Quote: Sandov
          - I must immediately say that, according to numerous studies, Bashar al-Assad is supported from 60 to 88% of the Syrian population. Let's compare: in France, the president of the country is supported by about 15% of the population. So who then should leave power?

          And now the Yankees with their rats will rub us points?


          To support in words one thing, to fight for your President is different. On TV they don’t show crowds of Syrian youth of all draft ages who are struggling to fight. For some reason, young recruits prefer to go to the Mujahideen.
        2. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 January 2014 14: 12
          0
          Quote: Sandov
          - I must immediately say that, according to numerous studies, Bashar al-Assad is supported from 60 to 88% of the Syrian population. Let's compare: in France, the president of the country is supported by about 15% of the population. So who then should leave power?

          And now the Yankees with their rats will rub us points?



          Like in the Russian Federation. In peacetime, 200 thousand deviators from serving in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In Syria, too, young people either evade or go to the Mujahideen. The numerous videos put on display clearly show the predominance of Syrian military men of senior military age.
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 18 January 2014 21: 00
        0
        Quote: Jamal1974
        Assad is the lawfully elected president and he will not only wait out his term as president, but he will most likely nominate his candidacy for the next term and win.


        Then this will begin, that all the swamps with the Maidan taken together will seem like toys ...
      5. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 18 January 2014 21: 08
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        Quote: Jamal1974
        Assad legitimately elected president

        How did you determine that his election was legal?

        How many candidates ran for President of Syria?

        Did Bashar al-Assad meet the criteria for running for president of Syria?
        The answer is no. At the time of his election, he was less than 40 years old. They married him, but they could not grow old - they had to rewrite the constitution insolently

        However, what else to expect from the Assad family - they had a curfew in their country 40 years. And it ended with years of massacre
        Corrected, kings. Legally elected

        Grateful "voters" honor the statue of Papa Assad in Aleppo
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 19 January 2014 02: 21
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          Excellent photo.
        2. Ihrek
          Ihrek 19 January 2014 21: 00
          +2
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          How did you determine that his election was legal?

          Elections were recognized as legitimate internationally.
        3. bif
          bif 21 January 2014 03: 59
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          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          And it ended with years of massacre
          Corrected, kings. Legally elected

          Oleg, your naval reviews are interesting and exciting, and politics is not your "hobbyhorse" ...
      6. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 18 January 2014 23: 50
        +14
        Quote: Jamal1974
        Assad is a legitimately elected president and he ... will wait out his term as president

        Gaddafi was also legally elected ... But he put it on the wrong horse - and the French (in the person of Sarkazi) leaked it and did not blink an eye. But the wise father of Bashar - Khaviz Assad - was friends with the right guys. Before death, knowing the diagnosis, he came to Pu and talked with him for a long time. And he bequeathed friendship to Russia to his son. Without the support of Russia, the firm position of GDP - figs Assad would have stood up against a coalition of pale-faced. But not a word about this in the interview: they say, well done themselves. Well, well, and the navel will not untie from the strain? Pray to Allah that the president at that time was GDP, otherwise the history of Libya would be repeated.
        So don't forget who told Erdagan: "Just try it!" Just two words, but the story took a different path ...
        And you say, damn it, PAVLINS!
        1. bif
          bif 19 January 2014 14: 14
          +4
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Without the support of Russia, the firm position of GDP - figs Assad would have stood up against a coalition of pale-faced.

          There is no need to shout about this at every corner, who needs to know everything themselves, believe me, no Syrian citizen doubts this and will remember this to the grave, well, the "customers" also know everything very well.
      7. alone
        alone 19 January 2014 01: 32
        +1
        Quote: Jamal1974
        Assad is the lawfully elected president and he will not only wait out his term as president, but he will most likely nominate his candidacy for the next term and win.

        Jamal, let's reason with logic. What kind of elections can we talk about when there is a war in the country? in order to save the country, you need to find a language with moderate militant forces and defeat the Wahhabis. And the moderate will go for it if the Assad promises them not to submit their candidacy for president. A vicious circle is received.
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        2. atalef
          atalef 19 January 2014 14: 38
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          Quote: lonely
          Quote: Jamal1974Asad is the legitimately elected president and he will not only wait out his term as president, but he will most likely nominate his candidacy for the next term and win.

          Maybe lawfully, only there were no elections
          Hafez al-Assad died on June 10, 2000 from heart failure. The day after the death of the Syrian leader, the Acting President of Syria, First Vice President Haddam, assigned Bashar al-Assad the rank of lieutenant general and appointed him supreme commander of the army. The Syrian parliament changed the constitution, reducing the minimum age of a presidential candidate from 40 to 34 years specifically for the election of Bashar al-Assad.

          On June 20, at the congress of the ruling party, Baas Bashar al-Assad was elected secretary general and nominated the only presidential candidate, and a week later his candidacy was approved by the parliament [3]. On July 10, a referendum was held in the country on the election of the head of state, as a result of which Bashar Assad was elected President of Syria, gaining 97,29% of the vote [7]. On May 27, 2007, another referendum was held in Syria on the re-election of Assad as head of state. Only one question was included in the ballot: “Do you trust the government of the country to Bashar al-Assad until 2014?” [8]. According to the results of the referendum, Bashar Assad was re-elected for a second term, gaining 97,62% of the vote

          I don’t know why to invent something that was not there.
          We can say that Assad is the rightful ruler of Syria, but why say that there were elections - a referendum with one candidate, only a sick person will call elections.
          As well as the assertion of support for Assad 80% of the population. Who conducted the survey? Where and when .
          The fact that Assad today is a lesser evil is understandable
          But you shouldn’t be keen on both elections and support
          Assad - appointed by inheritance - neither the first nor the second in the world who thus receives power. The booth in the country is one of the consequences of this.
          I say again - Assad for Syria is not the worst option, but today it may be the best.
          Just separate the flies from the cutlets.
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 19 January 2014 15: 19
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            . The booth in the country is one of the consequences of this.
            I say again - Assad for Syria is not the worst option, but today it may be the best.

            And what's the point, the Yankees are changing their condoms, and the point is zero. As they were shitty, they remained so.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 19 January 2014 15: 27
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              Quote: Sandov
              Quote: atalef
              . The booth in the country is one of the consequences of this.
              I say again - Assad for Syria is not the worst option, but today it may be the best.

              And what's the point, the Yankees are changing their condoms, and the point is zero. As they were shitty, they remained so.

              Well, do not distort. Gov .. and legal elections are completely different concepts.
          2. Ihrek
            Ihrek 19 January 2014 21: 26
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            On June 20, at the congress of the ruling party, Baas Bashar al-Assad was elected Secretary General

            Quote: atalef
            On July 10, a referendum was held in the country on the election of the head of state, as a result of which Bashar al-Assad was elected president of Syria, gaining 97,29% of the vote [7]. On May 27, 2007, another referendum was held in Syria on the re-election of Assad as head of state.

            So they chose the same, there was no boycott or popular indignation. And the international community recognized it as legitimate. And suddenly he turned out to be bad because he began to pursue a policy not pro-Western, Qatar was not allowed to lay a gas pipeline through its territory. And there are no ideal elections anywhere, even in the same America. I remember very well the first election of Bush Jr., when Gore won and Bush was appointed president. And this is in an "ideal" democratic country, according to some. Then something not a single state or politician questioned the legitimacy of the appointment of President Bush Jr. And how many civilians were killed in the world because of the policies of the same Bush and continue to die to this day. And Guantanoma, the bombing of Yugoslavia and Iraq bypassing all international laws, and the killing of civilians by drones. The list goes on, but you already know it. So much like that America is an empire of evil and hypocrisy. But it is not very customary to talk about this, because they have military and economic strength and the dollar is not provided with anything, but to which everyone prays.
            1. atalef
              atalef 19 January 2014 21: 50
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              Quote: Jamal1974
              So after all, they chose the same, there was no boycott or popular outrage

              In general, the word Elections - implies - a choice of at least two candidates. Therefore, there was a REFERENDUM - (which is not a priori election)
              Quote: Jamal1974
              . And the international community recognized it as legal

              Yes, the international community doesn’t care.
              As in general, Assad is legitimate to me or not, in general, to me in terms of jaraban. Just do not say that he was elected.
              Quote: Jamal1974
              And there are no ideal choices anywhere, even in the same America. I remember very well the first election of Bush Jr. when Gore defeated and Bush became president.

              In general, Gore lost - the electoral system in America is so arranged, with the same success (if he had won in the states with more electors), Gore would have won - even Bush, if he had won a greater absolute number of votes, he would have lost. But they had equal opportunities (Bush-Gore) and two candidates (although there was another independent one, but scored real pennies) —that is why this is called an election because THERE IS A CHOICE
              Quote: Jamal1974
              And this is in an "ideal" democratic country, according to some.

              In football, the same sometimes a weak team skips with a luck. good draw and goal difference. Nevertheless, no one disputes the championship. There is no ideal at all. But the difference between the elections in the USA and Syria is obvious.
              Quote: Jamal1974
              . At that time, no state or politician questioned the legitimacy of his appointment as President Bush.

              first of all, Gore had no complaints - why bother others. The elections were by the rules (which are already over 200 years old) and completely transparent

              Quote: Jamal1974
              And how many civilians were killed in the world because of the policy of the same Bush and continues to die to this day.

              Heard such a name - General Romeo Daller, probably not. But it was he who launched the genocide in Rwanda, where more than 100 thousand people were killed in 800 days. Want to continue the list?
              Quote: Jamal1974
              Guantanoma

              What about Guantanoma? Well, there are Wahhabis and terrorists, and let them sit. What do you understand then cry?
              Quote: Jamal1974
              the bombing of Yugoslavia and Iraq, bypassing all international laws

              you probably aren’t. Read the resolutions of the Soviet Security Council as on Iraq. so and in Yugoslavia. I’m sure you will be disappointed and will no longer talk about circumvention of international laws
              1. atalef
                atalef 19 January 2014 21: 51
                +1
                Quote: Jamal1974
                and the killing of civilians by drones. The list is huge.

                What is the difference manned or drones?
                They wage their war - unfortunately civilians suffer. Russia is waging the same war - civilians are suffering the same there. France in the Central African Republic, Germans and NATO in general in Afghanistan, Assad in Syria and the list can be continued. In general, people are killed in the war - which is something immoral to look for.
              2. Ihrek
                Ihrek 19 January 2014 23: 11
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                What about Guantanoma? Well, there are Wahhabis and terrorists, and let them sit. What do you understand then cry?

                There are many innocent people. And they sit there for years without trial and investigation, if not all then many.
                Quote: atalef
                Read the resolutions of the Soviet Security Council as on Iraq. so in Yugoslavia

                For the bombing of an independent country, the approval of all permanent members of the UN Security Council is needed. At least Russia did not give such consent. And everything else cannot be legal.
                Quote: atalef
                The elections were by the rules (which are already over 200 years old) and completely transparent

                Their country is their rule, this does not mean that they should dictate their rules in foreign countries. No one gave them the role of the world gendarme. Maybe I also don't like their rules or the same Syria. As the saying goes, "They don't go to someone else's monastery with their own rules." And in general the history of America began with the genocide of the Indians, with concentration camps, with the seizure of foreign lands. Or you will argue that the Indians voluntarily gave up their lands. Average life expectancy of Indians is now 2 times lower than the average American one. There is a purposeful uprooting of them. I was in America and I know everything personally. So America itself is built on the blood of innocent people and barbaric and anti-democratic principles. You know how New York was built: the land of a private owner was illegally built up. and when he filed a lawsuit and won him, the crowd tore him alive. So there will be no happiness there when, all their achievements are temporary. This country is cursed by those people whom they tortured. hi
                1. atalef
                  atalef 19 January 2014 23: 41
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                  1. Well, firstly, no one is sitting without trial, you can bring some kind of fact with a reference to confirm
                  2. Get acquainted with the decision of the UN Security Council on Iraq and do not be stupid, Russia did not impose a veto
                  3, and they don’t dictate, so after the referendum, it’s like talking with Assad. As for the history of America, it’s not one, you can add all the countries there, did the Dutch behave South Africa more abruptly than others? But Afrikaners are Dutch, by the way, the homeland of your ancestors somehow far from voluntarily became part of Russia - or not
                  Then you were in the Indian reservations? I was both in the states and in Canada - do not rubbish, read the topic
                  about New York - generally funny, by the way were in New York - no? Sorry
                  4. Strange, here in the Russian Federation a fret of one model has been produced for 20 years - and who damned it?
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                  2. Ihrek
                    Ihrek 20 January 2014 00: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    stupid things

                    Quote: atalef
                    do not fuck nonsense

                    Dear I, in fact, did not offend you, and we did not switch to you. and I was in Canada too. And I also know how they live on reservations and how they are soldered there purposefully.
                    Quote: atalef
                    New York - no? Sorry

                    And why immediately such conclusions, I actually did not say that I was not there.
                    Quote: atalef
                    in Russia, a fret of one model has been produced for 20 years - and who damned it?

                    And what does the Lada have to do with it?
                  3. Ihrek
                    Ihrek 20 January 2014 00: 27
                    +3
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, firstly, no one is sitting without trial

                    Just do not need this.
                    Quote: atalef
                    By the way, the homeland of your ancestors somehow far from voluntarily became part of Russia - or not

                    No, it’s not voluntary, Dagestan was at war with Russia for about 35 years, but there was no genocide, concentration camps, the destruction of the people through infection with the plague, smallpox through gifts to the local population infected with these diseases as it was in America, slavery, etc. And Dagestan has not gone anywhere, we also live on our land and also in all of Russia with the same rights as all Russians.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 20 January 2014 07: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Jamal1974
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, firstly, no one is sitting without trial

                      Just do not need this.
                      Quote: atalef
                      By the way, the homeland of your ancestors somehow far from voluntarily became part of Russia - or not

                      No, it’s not voluntary, Dagestan was at war with Russia for about 35 years, but there was no genocide, concentration camps, the destruction of the people through infection with the plague, smallpox through gifts to the local population infected with these diseases as it was in America, slavery, etc. And Dagestan has not gone anywhere, we also live on our land and also in all of Russia with the same rights as all Russians.

                      Baby talk, excuse me, but oh well, be healthy - having lived to be 40 years old and not having learned to distinguish not only tones, but even black from white - hardly anyone will convince you, be happy in your ignorance.
                      By the way, if you were on the reservation of the Canadian Indians - what kind of cars do their police drive? (You certainly saw her) - all the best
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              4. Ihrek
                Ihrek 20 January 2014 00: 01
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Yes, the international community doesn’t care.

                You want to say that only America with its sixes does not care. They just do not care at all and at all. Much can be said about their cynicism, but I will give just one example - the nuclear bombing of Japan. Why the question is, when everything is a foregone conclusion, to kill 200 civilians, including children. It’s very cynical just to scare someone. Yes, you know everything yourself. They do not care at all. They will never come to the aid of any country in the world if their interests are not there, even though blood will flow like a river there. On the contrary, if some country, its political position, does not suit them, they will certainly come to the "help" with bombs, and to find a pretext is a matter of technology, if only the sixes barked where necessary, where they wagged their tail or lick their ass where necessary. Or even better, they made a victim out of themselves. And America in its small history has betrayed many times, so that you (Israil) can be thrown when it is profitable for her.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 20 January 2014 07: 36
                  -2
                  Quote: Jamal1974
                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, the international community doesn’t care.

                  You want to say that only America with its sixes does not care. They just do not care at all and at all. Much can be said about their cynicism, but I will give just one example - the nuclear bombing of Japan. Why the question is, when everything is a foregone conclusion, to kill 200 civilians, including children. It’s very cynical just to scare someone. Yes, you know everything yourself. They do not care at all. They will never come to the aid of any country in the world if their interests are not there, even though blood will flow like a river there. On the contrary, if some country, its political position, does not suit them, they will certainly come to the "help" with bombs, and to find a pretext is a matter of technology, if only the sixes barked where necessary, where they wagged their tail or lick their ass where necessary. Or even better, they made a victim out of themselves. And America in its small history has betrayed many times, so that you (Israil) can be thrown when it is profitable for her.

                  It’s strange that you are not a Danestan, your students are in first place in terms of passing the exam in the Russian Federation. And you are talking nonsense at the level of a fifth grader, and even a school of the 70s, it should be a shame to be in front of your fellow villagers.
                  1. Ihrek
                    Ihrek 20 January 2014 09: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    It’s strange that you are not a Danestan, your students are in first place in terms of passing the exam in the Russian Federation.

                    It would be strange if you agreed with me, you are a Jew. And I can insult too, but I do not want to stoop to your level.
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        3. Ihrek
          Ihrek 20 January 2014 00: 58
          0
          Quote: lonely
          Jamal, let's reason with logic. What kind of elections can we talk about when there is a war in the country?

          He was not chosen during the war, but before it began. And their election system is not the same as ours or in Azerbaijan.
          Quote: lonely
          to save the country you need to find a language with moderate militant forces and defeat the Wahhabis. and the moderate will go for it

          What language can be found with fighters? Moreover, most of them are not citizens of this country at all, but have come to earn money. And some supposedly democratic countries are arming them to forcibly overthrow the government. Is it really that people began to live in Libya now, in Syria it could be even worse if terrorists and militants come to power, because we know very well that there is also an Alkaida.
          1. alone
            alone 20 January 2014 01: 13
            +1
            Quote: Jamal1974
            He was not chosen during the war, but before it began. And their election system is not the same as ours or in Azerbaijan.


            if you think Jamal well, they don’t have any choices at all))
            Quote: Jamal1974
            Moreover, most of them are not citizens of this country at all, but have come to earn money.

            25% of the total number of foreigners are there, and they only got there a year after the conflict began, when the opponents of the government managed to seize the border posts. You need to find a language with your citizens, with those 75% to destroy the squads of the anusra and the Islamic Republic without This war can drag on for years.

            having 300 thousandth army, forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, unconditional support of the population, it is impossible to fight for three years only by foreigners. under such conditions, foreigners would last for a maximum of 3-4 months, no matter how much they would not be helped from the outside. Yes, and openly speaking out against militants in occupied territories, I don’t I heard and did not see. And if you want to bring a counter-argument to the Syrian Kurds, the Kurds are fighting with jihadists for their goals, and not for Assad.
            1. Ihrek
              Ihrek 20 January 2014 06: 35
              +1
              Quote: lonely
              if you think Jamal well, they don’t have any choices at all))

              But this is their internal affair, and the M. community in any case should do everything to establish peace. and not vice versa pit each other. Even as you say 25% of foreign mercenaries there, and what do you think is important to them what will happen to the people and the country? In fact, they are more cheerful there. Personally, I don’t care who will be in power there, as a person, it’s just really painful for me to see the suffering of ordinary people, especially children. M.sobsh. It was necessary for a long time to make every effort to resolve this war, and the West is doing the opposite. Because they do not give a damn about this country and their inhabitants, they pursue their personal interests there. But if you really think about flaws in the election system, there are everywhere, in any country in the world. In Syria, of course, I do not agree with the best elections, as well as in many other countries. And in some countries there are none at all, but no one is going to bomb them.
              1. alone
                alone 20 January 2014 19: 20
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                Quote: Jamal1974
                In fact, there are more


                in fact there are 8-10 thousand of them bayonets and all the rest of their citizens
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      8. Evp Kolovrat
        Evp Kolovrat 19 January 2014 09: 46
        +4
        B Assad has no other choice, because this person is a patriot of his country and there is no other candidate and will not be in the near future. FORCES, GOOD LUCK and HEALTH to the Syrian people and their leader.
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    3. Asgard
      Asgard 18 January 2014 15: 33
      +5
      An interesting thought about the next president "Tolstoyan-forgiven"))))

      This led us into today's jungle of "geopolitics" of destroying everyone and everything (militants are sent to die, in the hope that they will kill many citizens)) this is not a struggle for land, resources ...
      is KILLING YOURSELF ... that's all.

      And you just need to respond to Good with Good ...
      To Evil - in fairness .....

      Israel bombed a warehouse with missiles ....
      "Good fellows" hit Galil (Israel Atomic Charges Depot))
      Qatar and Saudis undermine Syria’s economy,
      Well, mine gas carriers and tankers (undermine the economy of oil vassals)))

      Otherwise, Syria has NO CHANCE, defending itself passively (not to win))) Wait, "WEAPON" Putin will take out - and WILL BEGIN (active phase)))))
      Assad is not a tenant (unfortunately I can state))
      1. Salamander
        Salamander 18 January 2014 16: 15
        +13
        But ANY such step by Assad will be taken apart to pieces, and for now he needs the status of a "good" president for everyone. And who said that the Syrians do not take revenge? And Hezbollah? There are other such organizations. It's not for nothing that our military advisers work there, oh, not for nothing ...
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 18 January 2014 16: 25
        +17
        Quote: Asgard
        Assad is not a tenant (unfortunately I can state))
        I do not agree with this, it is too early to bury at least, or maybe in tandem with Iran, Russia and China, he will bury those who dug up his grave himself! Regarding the second part of the comment, I completely agree that one should not turn the other cheek, but better an eye on "well, pull it on!
      3. datur
        datur 18 January 2014 16: 57
        +4
        Otherwise, Syria has NO CHANCE, defending itself passively (not to win))) Wait, "WEAPON" Putin will take out - and WILL BEGIN (active phase)))))
        Assad is not a tenant (unfortunately I can state)) - calm down, ours act as it should in this situation! wink
      4. datur
        datur 18 January 2014 16: 57
        +1
        Otherwise, Syria has NO CHANCE, defending itself passively (not to win))) Wait, "WEAPON" Putin will take out - and WILL BEGIN (active phase)))))
        Assad is not a tenant (unfortunately I can state)) - calm down, ours act as it should in this situation! wink
      5. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 19 January 2014 00: 23
        +4
        Quote: Asgard
        Assad is not a tenant (unfortunately I can state))

        Oh oh Ours didn’t get in for a healthy life and they drove weapons. Bet on Assad, and the calculation for everything about everything - oil. Our oil kings are vitally interested in Syria under Assad, our welfare depends on this. The product pipeline through Syria to Europe at the moment will end our well-being, the growth of the public servants salary, social programs, etc. So we will protect Assad ... we need him, otherwise who will pay for everything. IMHO.
        1. alone
          alone 19 January 2014 01: 35
          +1
          Previously, during the USSR, everything was also supplied, and Assad was in power. Only no one paid for all this, I had to write everything off. The same rake, too.
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        3. atalef
          atalef 19 January 2014 14: 44
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          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Oh oh Ours didn’t get in for a healthy life and they drove weapons. Bet on Assad, and the calculation for everything about everything - oil.

          In Syria, oil reserves are scanty. Gazprom received an offshore exploration concession. Is there something there or not --- unknown. surveys have not yet been conducted.

          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Our oil kings are vitally interested in Syria under Assad, our welfare depends on this.

          Oh well. In general, I think that the welfare of Russia and the Russians should depend on them and labor for the good of the country
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          The product pipeline through Syria to Europe at the moment will end our well-being, the growth of public servants salaries, social programs, etc.

          Do not worry - there’s nothing else to drive to Europe. There is no gas or gas pipeline
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          So we will protect Assad ... we need him, otherwise who will pay for everything. IMHO.

          Well, Papa Assad has already been written off 10 billion .-- and his son will be written off - not the first time.
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 20 January 2014 01: 15
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Do not worry - there’s nothing else to drive to Europe. There is no gas or gas pipeline

            Sir, I thought that you were in the subject ... They planned to carry out a grocery store from Qatar, as opposed to our North and South flows, in order to reduce energy dependence on Russia. They asked the ATS, she did not agree. We decided to solve the problem by military means ...
            Help.Katar - 3-th in the world in terms of natural gas reserves, 6-th in the world exporter of natural gas, a major exporter of oil and oil products (21-th place in the world). It is a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. Oil and gas production accounts for more than 50% of GDP, 85% of export value and 70% of the revenue of the state budget. Oil and gas made Qatar the first country in the world in terms of per capita GDP.
  2. delfinN
    delfinN 18 January 2014 11: 06
    +8
    "The situation is very difficult, since the real customer of the war blazing in Syria today is the United States. Let me remind you that this country declared war on Damascus in 2003. Since then, Washington has constantly tried to start hostilities until the last moment, when the States actually delegated their prerogatives to unleash a conflict for other countries - first France and Great Britain, then regional powers, namely Turkey, Jordan, and then successively Qatar and Saudi Arabia. "

    Everyone knows: who is the customer, who is the performer. And they talk so calmly about it. Some kind of surrealism. It’s as if we are all in a different dimension. In the West, they themselves are already getting weakened by the fact that the balance of power was violated in the 90 years.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 18 January 2014 16: 05
      +11
      Quote: delfinN
      Everyone knows: who is the customer, who is the performer. And they talk so calmly about it. Some kind of surrealism. It’s as if we are all in a different dimension. In the West, they themselves are already getting weakened by the fact that the balance of power was violated in the 90 years.


      This power decided to start a war in Syria, which they call the fourth generation war,


      I’m afraid that stubbornly coming infa about rusty missiles and stubborn US rockets is not disinfect. Nuclear weapons have not been counted on for a long time (here it is more expensive to compete with Russia). But to translate everything into chaos of the internal bargaining - these vipers are completely capable of running and technology (Libya, Syria, Egypt, Ukraine, etc.).
      I hope Russia is ready for such a turn.
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    3. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 19 January 2014 14: 48
      -1
      But it’s not clear why our BMD-2 are being sent to Syria ...



      Photos taken
      http://azlok.livejournal.com/842049.html#comments
  3. propolsky
    propolsky 18 January 2014 15: 17
    +5
    - There is no structured Syrian opposition.

    Of course, gangs of cutthroats are difficult to unite under one principle, each is fighting not for an idea, but for profit (not counting those who are closer to the trough from which this tragedy is sponsored. These row directly!)
  4. VADEL
    VADEL 18 January 2014 15: 29
    +11
    I wish the Syrian people an early victory and peace, and the States wipe snot.
  5. Salamander
    Salamander 18 January 2014 15: 34
    +16
    Ndaa ... The Syrian people would directly choose between Assad and the opposition ...
  6. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 18 January 2014 15: 35
    +24
    Assad is a man, Human! Valor, courage, intelligence, control, devotion to the Motherland - all this is Assad!
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 18 January 2014 20: 11
      +10
      And still calm as a boa constrictor. To make him nervous and thereby make mistakes did not work.
  7. bomg.77
    bomg.77 18 January 2014 15: 35
    +16
    I think in Syria it’s not over yet, after the elimination of chemical weapons, a second round of tension will begin, and it seems to me that this will happen during or immediately after the Olympics. America and the West, not the first time, do not keep their promises.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 18 January 2014 15: 42
      +9
      Quote: bomg.77
      this will happen during or immediately after the Olympics

      thought during. zapadentsy vile, this is just for them situevina
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 18 January 2014 16: 12
        +12
        Quote: andrei332809
        thought during. zapadentsy vile, this is just for them situevina
        I think that our internal Russian "liberals" will not lag behind the Westerners. Already the flywheel of anti-Russian propaganda is being unwound in a new way, it can be seen even by the topvar, and the activation of the Maidan, plus the US dissatisfaction with the agreements between Iran and Russia on the purchase of oil in exchange for peaceful goods. not over, it was just an intermission.
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 18 January 2014 16: 27
          +3
          Quote: bomg.77
          The performance is not finished, it was just an intermission.

          Well, now the chief director will come up with a new make-up for his actors ... only their imagination is already failing, nothing is being invented. or maybe they will release the actor on the stage, who so far has filed a replica from behind the curtains-Israeli. Assad has no chemistry, and the Jews are no longer afraid of the answer
          1. Gunsmith
            Gunsmith 18 January 2014 19: 22
            +2
            The pace is lost. Israel, if it was afraid of chemistry, it was only from the spirits of the oppositionErov. Here it’s in fable - * He sees an eye, but a tooth is numb * - Assad is a legally elected president, you cannot dispute this fact.
        2. Gunsmith
          Gunsmith 18 January 2014 19: 11
          0
          Quote: bomg.77
          agreements between Iran and Russia on the purchase of oil in exchange for peaceful goods. The performance was not completed, it was just an intermission.

          Well, what specifically can the West bring to Iran and Russia? And how to prevent peaceful trade between the two countries? Again, mouse fuss under the carpet of the EU? What intermission, damn nafig. The performance is over. Put out the candles.
          1. bomg.77
            bomg.77 18 January 2014 19: 34
            +2
            Quote: Gunsmith
            Well, what specifically can the West bring to Iran and Russia?

            They can not present anything under this agreement, because according to the law, but they already express their dissatisfaction.
            Quote: Gunsmith
            Again, mouse fuss under the carpet of the EU?
            Mouse fuss, we pour out on the swamp, and in Ukraine on the Maidan! They can drink blood for us.
          2. Russ69
            Russ69 19 January 2014 00: 02
            +1
            Quote: Gunsmith
            The performance is over. Put out the candles.

            Not ... Received clicks. on the forehead, just do not leave. Will be recouped ...
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 19 January 2014 00: 18
              0
              Quote: Russ69
              Not ... Received clicks. on the forehead without leaving
              They didn’t achieve their goals, but they still remained. They will achieve them in other ways, taking into account the opposition of Russia and China.
    2. ty60
      ty60 18 January 2014 23: 52
      +2
      Exactly at the time! And FBI employees like helping to ensure security will give the go-ahead at the right time. At the same time, they will try to organize a global synchronization with us.
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 19 January 2014 00: 36
        0
        Quote: ty60
        It is on time!
        I can’t even imagine how this could end!
  8. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 18 January 2014 15: 42
    +11
    Militants essentially wage a guerrilla war. But we know that it is much more difficult to fight with partisans than with a regular army. If there was an open war against Assad, then he would have long ago defeated this rabble of jackals, despite Western support. Although it will be difficult, but more and more confidence that the real Syrian people will still break this shoblu of mercenaries. And long-awaited peace will come on Syrian long-suffering land!
    1. alone
      alone 19 January 2014 01: 38
      -1
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      Militants essentially wage a guerrilla war. But we know that it is much more difficult to fight with partisans than with a regular army. If there was an open war against Assad


      Can you name the open war that Assad won — the father and son?
  9. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 18 January 2014 16: 01
    +7
    Another 3-4 of the year will pass and Syria will be forgotten and it will not be interesting to the West. Like Afghanistan now, formerly Vietnam. Will Assad rule there or not, communists or democrats, the Taliban or not the Taliban ... I’m not talking about Chechnya, Libya, Iraq, Panama, Somalia, Georgia - who now recalls them?

    So Assad needs to hold out a little more, and then they will follow the next monster corporation.
  10. WIN969
    WIN969 18 January 2014 16: 04
    +10
    It is not in vain that we are arming Syria at a fast pace, because with our help they won only the battle, but the war still has to survive, and the fate of Russia also depends on the results of this war.
    1. alone
      alone 19 January 2014 01: 40
      -5
      I didn’t know that the fate of Russia depends on Syria))) minus you for lowering the level of your country to such an extent.
  11. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 18 January 2014 16: 10
    0
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Militants essentially wage a guerrilla war. But we know that it is much more difficult to fight with partisans than with a regular army. If there was an open war against Assad, then he would have long ago defeated this rabble of jackals, despite Western support. Although it will be difficult, but more and more confidence that the real Syrian people will still break this shoblu of mercenaries. And long-awaited peace will come on Syrian long-suffering land!
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  13. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 18 January 2014 16: 11
    -7
    Yes, they will not let him win unfortunately. Americans will not miss their.
    1. Woolfy
      Woolfy 19 January 2014 01: 47
      +1
      The Americans can try. But watch the videos from the database zone from the ANNA agency. The Syrians know how to fight, and most importantly, they have a desire to drive the Shaitans from their land. This is not Afghanistan where the Americans pay factions for the right to drive safely on the roads of Afghanistan
  14. shinobi
    shinobi 18 January 2014 16: 12
    +3
    All the most interesting is just beginning. After the elimination of the Syrian chemical weapons Assad will have a serious army reserve which is still stupidly tied to the protection of warehouses. The most interesting is that during the entire conflict there were only two not very dense attempts to seize these warehouses. many would love to buy. This says that they are being guarded very seriously and the jihaddists did not smile at guaranteed death. We will look further.
  15. Arhj
    Arhj 18 January 2014 16: 18
    +3
    It is only natural that Assad supports the majority of the population. He is the only one who can provide at least some order. The opposition cannot do this, if only because the opposition as such is not there. There is a small handful of liberals who howl from somewhere from London or Ankara, who, in fact, are the opposition, but do not enjoy the support of the population. The rest are ordinary bandits fighting for money, a worldwide caliphate, or simply out of love for art.
    The West demands that Assad must leave, but whoever replaces him does not speak. That is, intentionally pushing the country to anarchy.
  16. scientist
    scientist 18 January 2014 16: 39
    +1
    The gradual squeezing of militants is certainly the most effective method of combating large organized crime groups, provided that the area of ​​operations is well isolated. However, this should not be delayed. While the process of eliminating chemical weapons is ongoing, the elimination of the main gangs and their leaders needs to be completed. Syria for Qatar and the Saudis will remain a tidbit and an annoying factor. This reason cannot be eliminated without serious support from the world community, which means that a new stage of the war in Syria should be expected.
  17. Arhj
    Arhj 18 January 2014 16: 41
    +6
    Perhaps it’s worthwhile to stop calling terrorists militants in the media. Essentially correct, as it is written in the dictionary, but gives away some romanticism and helps to attract some not too smart, but especially impressionable citizens to terrorist organizations.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 18 January 2014 21: 05
      0
      Quote: Arhj
      Perhaps it’s worthwhile to stop calling terrorists militants in the media. Essentially correct, as it is written in the dictionary, but gives away some romanticism and helps to attract some not too smart, but especially impressionable citizens to terrorist organizations.

      And besides diplomatic efforts, help is needed from all countries, not only Russia.
  18. homosum20
    homosum20 18 January 2014 16: 42
    +3
    Yeah interesting. From the point of view of the United States and Saudis: a war of 4 generations, an attack is a loss. From the point of view of Russia and China: the war of the fourth generation - defense - victory.
  19. voliador
    voliador 18 January 2014 17: 37
    +2
    All because of oil. Where it is, scrappers appear and bombard the unfortunate country with democratic tomahawks.
  20. konvalval
    konvalval 18 January 2014 18: 12
    +5
    Bashar al-Assad causes nothing but respect. We would have such a general secretary at one time instead of a hunchbacked one.
    1. alone
      alone 19 January 2014 01: 41
      0
      Quote: konvalval
      Bashar al-Assad causes nothing but respect. We would have such a general secretary at one time instead of a hunchbacked one.


      what Do you think that in the USSR there were no more worthy candidates for this post except Hunchback?
  21. mad
    mad 18 January 2014 18: 13
    +4
    There is nothing new in this war, the CIA has unleashed them since the beginning of the 50s, Mi-6, or as it was called there in the past, tested technologies in the 18-19th century in America and India. It’s hard to bear the burden of a white man ... kill!
  22. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 18 January 2014 18: 22
    +3
    Syria cannot be surrendered in any way! In this region of our interests there is a lot ofooo! Base locations, long allied relations, the arms market, and now also oil on the shelf. We will help, the Syrians will sweep away this evil. Here all methods are good, if only the result is positive for Russia . With China and Iran in this matter, actions need to be coordinated, and there you see someone else will catch up.
  23. Stinger
    Stinger 18 January 2014 18: 42
    +1
    Will the mechanism work now, at this Geneva-2 conference? It seems that yes, but there is still no complete certainty.

    Looks like no. It’s just such a tough nut like Assad, caught the first time. Usually the other legs immediately up, so they are slightly confused. Hence the errors. Trying to sew your favorite chemical weapons, this stereotype also did not work. But if they drove into the head that Assad is bad, then this cannot be knocked out by any conferences. Only by force.
    1. ty60
      ty60 19 January 2014 00: 06
      0
      And let's write in 79 a statement to the military enlistment office — I want to help the Syrians cooler than Afghanistan. Via the Internet. The main thing is that the military commissariats do not fail — they called on the reservists at least virtually. A merry reaction will turn out. I think the finish will be over in two months. The conflict will be settled.
  24. Arh
    Arh 18 January 2014 19: 01
    +5
    Look who is judging Assad, Gaddafi, Miloshovich, Saddam Hussein, etc. those who unleashed wars in the peaceful countries of Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan! And this is a semblance of people under the name "USA NATO" who must be tried and isolated from humanity! ! !
  25. Grey68
    Grey68 18 January 2014 19: 43
    +3
    For the first time in the world, foreign gangs abandoned from abroad have been imposed on the state by an external war!
    Bashar al-Assad has already earned his place in history, and at the expense of foreign organized crime groups. The practice of using mercenaries has long roots, and these so-called "organized crime groups" are mercenaries, the article is nothing more than a profanation.
  26. individual
    individual 18 January 2014 23: 29
    +1
    Where is the WORLD heading?
    If the actions of the bandits of all stripes from organized crime groups in Syria are assigned the fourth generation military operations, then, following the logic, the first generation war was bludgeons and cobblestones.
    Subsequent war with arrows, then firearms of all stripes.
    The fifth generation will be atomic armageddon.
    Then all over again:
    The surviving tribes of the tumbu-yumbu will again fight with clubs and cobbles.
    fellow
  27. philip
    philip 19 January 2014 03: 55
    +2
    Loved the article. This French journalist, in my opinion, on and more accurately describes the mechanism of the fourth generation war. I would say a four-level war. Suppose state N, wants some material resource, state M. How to get it with the least material and human costs. The first level, we need not satisfied within the country. It doesn’t matter what they’re not happy with, let’s say Assad came to power bypassing the constitution that was in force at that time, or he didn’t conduct the Olympiad, it doesn’t matter, it’s important that they are. The second level is to create public opinion that the opposition (the dissatisfied) is mistreated, no matter what it will be. What kind of power the opposition will like, but no. Level three create a coalition of states supporting the opposition. And why create it, it is, and WE all know about it. This pushed the opposition to action (for example, military). The fourth level, coalition countries comprehensively support the opposition, in the face before the hostilities on the side of the opposition. The coalition and state M are being exhausted by the war, and it does not matter who wins it. The desired resource, state N will be obtained in a purely commercial, economic way. This is not a simple interview given by a French journalist.
    PS Not long ago, a son came from Japan, the young Japanese seriously believe that the Russians dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagosaki. And the European media ... Here gentlemen, how.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 19 January 2014 10: 29
      0
      Quote: Philip
      PS Not long ago, a son came from Japan, the young Japanese seriously believe that the Russians dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagosaki. And the European media ... Here gentlemen, how.

      They learn the truth, get stunned. How to fool the people. Why are lies so willing to believe, and they don’t want to know the truth?
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 19 January 2014 20: 43
        0
        how do they know where the truth is and where the lie is? what they are taught are sure of. didn’t we have it in schools during the USSR? wink
  28. AVV
    AVV 19 January 2014 10: 45
    +2
    Quote: Jamal1974
    Assad is the lawfully elected president and he will not only wait out his term as president, but he will most likely nominate his candidacy for the next term and win.

    The morally unbroken people of Syria, led by their president, will surely win !!! To spite the Saudis and the USA !!!
  29. alone
    alone 19 January 2014 12: 56
    -3
    Quote: AVV
    The morally unbroken people of Syria


    Yeah! that's why they kill each other with particular cruelty. I don’t wish anyone such morality
  30. vm68dm
    vm68dm 19 January 2014 13: 39
    +2
    Here's more about the 4th generation war!
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 19 January 2014 15: 35
      0
      Quote: vm68dm
      Here's more about the 4th generation war!

      Thanks for the video. I hope we will surrender this to myself.
  31. DMB-78
    DMB-78 19 January 2014 20: 46
    0
    without the help of Russia, Assad will certainly end. but Russia needs to look even more allies in this matter. all the same, a lot of money goes to the rescue, but they are not superfluous
  32. Day 11
    Day 11 20 January 2014 02: 38
    0
    Guys, does everyone recognize this "mower" in Syria? Somehow we have already discussed about the "Sturmgever" in Syria. Where do they get their booty from ???