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Patent issued for PAK-FA

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The past days are just replete with interesting the news in the aerospace field. So on January 13, many news agencies spread the news about the new patent “Multifunctional aircraft with low radar visibility”, which outlines the design of PAK-FA, on the example of which a set of measures to reduce ESR is proposed.


Figures of the patent 2502643 - Multifunctional aircraft with low radar visibility (PAK-FA T-50) 01
For example, for the Su-27 aircraft, the ESR value is of the order of 10-15 м2. The technical result, the achievement of which the invention is directed in the patent, is to reduce the magnitude of the aircraft radar visibility to an average magnitude of the order of 0,1-1 м2.

Comprehensive implementation of the combination of these measures provides the maximum effect on reducing visibility with minimal negative impact on the aerodynamic, weight technological, operational and other characteristics of the aircraft.

Reference to the patent:
"Multifunctional aircraft with low radar visibility"
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http://totalitat.livejournal.com/
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  1. koksalek
    koksalek 15 January 2014 11: 52
    +2
    And to whom is a patent issued?
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    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 15 January 2014 11: 59
      +7
      JSC OKB Sukhoi and JSC Aviation Holding Company "Sukhoi" soldier
    3. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 15 January 2014 12: 38
      +2
      The thing is, the main thing is that there would be no technical and economic problems ...
    4. Civil
      Civil 15 January 2014 13: 35
      +2
      The patent for the plane must be filed, wipe the nose Wright
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 15 January 2014 13: 40
        +1
        Comprehensive implementation of the combination of these measures provides the maximum effect on reducing visibility with minimal negative impact on the aerodynamic, weight technological, operational and other characteristics of the aircraft.


        And the task only at first glance seems to be easily solved.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 15 January 2014 14: 00
        +2
        I agree, now they can assign anything, and set an account, or even prohibit use ... so that's right, you need to stake out a site.
    5. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 15 January 2014 16: 36
      +1
      Me wink fellow


      I am an inventor
    6. andrey903
      andrey903 15 January 2014 21: 06
      -1
      No matter how the patent gets paid
      1. PPL
        PPL 15 January 2014 22: 24
        +2
        Patent for invention No. 2502643

        Authors):
        Davidenko Alexander Nikolaevich (RU),
        Sagittarius Mikhail Yurievich (RU),
        Gavrikov Andrey Yuryevich (RU),
        Boyko Mikhail Alekseevich (RU),
        Fedorenko Anatoly Ivanovich (RU),
        Logarkov Andrey Nikolaevich (RU),
        Runishev Vladimir Alexandrovich (RU),
        Bibikov Sergey Yurievich (RU),
        Vasiliev Mikhail Borisovich (RU),
        Kononov Dmitry Germanovich (RU),
        Erofeev Vasily Sergeevich (RU),
        Polyakova Natalya Borisovna (RU),
        Lebedev Roman Stanislavovich (RU)

        (73) Patent holder (s):
        Open Joint Stock Company "Aviation Holding Company" Sukhoi "(RU)

        Link to the patent http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2502643
        1. AVV
          AVV 16 January 2014 00: 44
          0
          This is the thing !!! The most important thing is that he would be secret, you don’t need to let enemies close to him !!!
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 15 January 2014 11: 54
    +8
    A good thing is a patent, the main thing is to patent the right to a product in time until the Chinese have copied it.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 15 January 2014 14: 06
      +3
      The grant of a patent implies the open publication of the claims. Dumb it somehow.
      1. Tjumenec72
        Tjumenec72 16 January 2014 03: 35
        0
        The technology is not very new, but there are several elegant design solutions - but they are described externally.
    2. 0255
      0255 15 January 2014 17: 49
      -1
      Quote: The same Lech
      A good thing is a patent, the main thing is to patent the right to a product in time until the Chinese have copied it.

      it is hard to believe that the patent will prevent the Chinese from copying anything.
      And "Dokhid-Martin" was not patented by the F-22? Still, the PAK FA is similar to the F-22, no offense will be told to him.
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach 15 January 2014 18: 04
        +3
        What is it like? The presence of two keels, two engines and one pilot? ABOUT? Yes! Similarities - the car! wassat
        1. 0255
          0255 15 January 2014 21: 15
          -2
          but it’s still like
          1. Alexey K.
            Alexey K. 15 January 2014 22: 47
            0
            "but it still looks like"

            It looks like because the laws of aerodynamics and stealth have not been canceled - they are the same for everyone. Therefore, the designs have similarities.
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 16 January 2014 08: 14
          0
          No, it looks like it generally has wings and engines. As well as the longitudinal plane of symmetry.
          Now, if the gravitsapu, and, for example, radial symmetry or even looked like a sea shell with tentacles ...
          wassat
          Then zerg would sue us
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 15 January 2014 22: 29
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      A good thing is a patent, the main thing is to patent the right to a product in time until the Chinese have copied it.

      And when did it bother them ??? belay
    4. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 16 January 2014 03: 31
      0
      The patent gives us the right (if we catch the Chinese in this) to "block" the export of THEIR machines with OUR patented technologies. It will not be possible to prohibit copying, for that we will not let them sell.
  3. rugor
    rugor 15 January 2014 11: 59
    +13
    Interestingly, this will stop the Chinese?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 15 January 2014 12: 11
      +8
      Quote: rugor
      Interestingly, this will stop the Chinese?

      Again, they will say that the technique of a certain direction has a similar appearance. As they said, after copying "Drying".
    2. igor36
      igor36 15 January 2014 12: 20
      +7
      This will not stop the Chinese or other countries. They do not recognize this patent. The principles of ESR reduction have been known for many years. It is the Sukhoi company that makes itself a monopoly in Russia so that Migi and others cannot make aircraft with a reduced ESR.
      1. Berxen
        Berxen 15 January 2014 13: 20
        +6
        Yes you give up. Now everything is in one UAC. And the leadership is accordingly uniform.
    3. silver_roman
      silver_roman 15 January 2014 13: 07
      +3
      somehow a little hard to believe. if they call their j-15 (su-33) a unique machine created using PURE their own technologies. the similarity of SOME fragments of the fuselage is explained by general trends in the aircraft industry!
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 15 January 2014 12: 02
    +2
    I sincerely want to hope that it was not the Chinese who patented it. With these will.
  5. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 15 January 2014 12: 11
    +1
    I thought it a sinful thing that the PAK FA had acquired, if not a thousand, then hundreds of patents. For all-all-all. But it turns out only one
    laughing
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 15 January 2014 12: 26
      +1
      Sooner rejoice. In principle, it’s not our business with you how many patents under PAK FA, but it’s not alone, that’s for sure, because it has been patented for years since 2010, if I’m not mistaken.
  6. crambol
    crambol 15 January 2014 12: 26
    +3
    Hurry up to see! A lot of interesting:

    http://www.findpatent.ru/patent/250/2502643.html
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    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 15 January 2014 22: 32
      0
      That's even funnier wassat
      http://www.findpatent.ru/patent/238/2384473.html
  7. duchy
    duchy 15 January 2014 12: 28
    0
    What a joke laughing , Suit amer for the pirate use of inventions. wassat
  8. ZU-23
    ZU-23 15 January 2014 12: 31
    +1
    That's right, you must, as you must, finish it to a UFO.
  9. Leshka
    Leshka 15 January 2014 12: 32
    +1
    when they will be released am
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 15 January 2014 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: Leshka
      when they will be released am

      and more, more!
      1. ZSP
        ZSP 15 January 2014 14: 10
        +1
        Yeah, before a UFO, it wouldn't be bad smile
  10. Arh
    Arh 15 January 2014 13: 29
    0
    My Favorite Airplanes tongue good bully
  11. bomg.77
    bomg.77 15 January 2014 13: 53
    +2
    In military technology, talking about a patent is stupid, at least. Then let's cancel espionage and the hunt for technology))) anyway, a potential enemy will sue you like a plagiarist laughing
  12. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 15 January 2014 14: 08
    +2
    This is done in the interests of India. Otherwise, China will patent a similar product and we will not be able to fulfill our obligations to the Indians.
    1. da113
      da113 15 January 2014 16: 46
      +3
      Quote: Jurkovs
      This is done in the interests of India. Otherwise, China will patent a similar product and we will not be able to fulfill our obligations to the Indians.

      Today we do T-50 with the Indians on shares. Glider, engine, part of the airborne equipment and weapons - this is ours. Aircraft electronics - avionics, control systems, navigation equipment - is engaged in India through the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited campaign. The Indian version of the fifth generation fighter (FGFA) will differ from the Russian two-seat cockpit, the engine. And since China and India have not resolved the territorial issue, the sale of this aircraft to China is out of the question in the near future!
      1. clidon
        clidon 15 January 2014 21: 19
        -2
        Hindus wrote that they want greater stealth and will change titanium to carbon fiber in FGFA.
        1. PKTRL
          PKTRL 15 January 2014 22: 14
          -1
          Quote: clidon
          Hindus wrote that they want greater stealth and will change titanium to carbon fiber in FGFA.

          You are completely .. unfinished .., in the T-50 there are about 70 ... 80% carbon fiber. Look at the early photos of the T-50, where there is a light green color (on the glider), there is "putty" for aluminum alloy, the rest is honeycomb ...
          1. clidon
            clidon 15 January 2014 22: 23
            0
            Hamish, kid. The share of CFRP according to the Sukhoi Design Bureau in the PAK FA airframe is 25%. Apparently they (the Hindus) need more.
            http://vpk.name/news/91325_amsa_alternativa_fgfa.html
        2. PKTRL
          PKTRL 15 January 2014 22: 14
          -2
          Quote: clidon
          Hindus wrote that they want greater stealth and will change titanium to carbon fiber in FGFA.

          You are completely .. unfinished .., in the T-50 there are about 70 ... 80% carbon fiber. Look at the early photos of the T-50, where there is a light green color (on the glider), there is "putty" for aluminum alloy, the rest is honeycomb ...
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 16 January 2014 08: 16
        0
        Indian version of the fifth generation fighter (FGFA)

        I almost read "Indian version of the fifth generation CONSUMER"
        wassat
        uuuh, damn it ...
      3. Berxen
        Berxen 16 January 2014 11: 15
        0
        What kind of nonsense? We do the T-50 for ourselves, it will have our airborne systems and control systems and in general everything. At a certain stage, the Indians are connected and under them the T-50, French and Israeli electronics begin to finish, and they still want to. The engines there will be exactly the same - 117. For there are no others stupid. The model is exactly the same as with the Su-30 family - there is a certain basic model which is then doped up for a specific customer.
  13. kelevra
    kelevra 15 January 2014 20: 06
    0
    Quite a good pace! We are waiting for the announcement that by the end of the year the first episodes will begin to be released!
  14. Cherdak
    Cherdak 15 January 2014 20: 49
    +1
    It is easier to patent: "There is radar visibility because it is beautiful"
  15. GUARDIAN ANGEL
    GUARDIAN ANGEL 15 January 2014 21: 28
    0
    Patent of the invention, is a pass to life (world practice)
  16. crambol
    crambol 15 January 2014 21: 46
    0
    Quote: ANGEL KEEPER
    Patent of the invention, is a pass to life (world practice)

    Error! Many large companies buy patents to bury competing new products. Examples of darkness!
  17. Manul
    Manul 16 January 2014 00: 03
    0
    I think its beauty is a tactical move. So that the enemy, having become amused, lost concentration laughing Good, little devil!