Military Review

Euromaidan threatens 1400 thousand people with violence, and the east of Ukraine is stuck in a crisis of self-identity

161
Euromaidan threatens 1400 thousand people with violence, and the east of Ukraine is stuck in a crisis of self-identity



Euromaidan in Ukraine headed for the full radicalization of the protest. It is clear that one sitting on Independence will not do anything. Therefore, some citizens of Ukraine, stupefied by liberalism and the spirit of “free” Europe, began attacking prison auto-bazards, in which prisoners were transported by court order, and not “ordinary” hooligans from the Maidan, who were momentarily detained. They beat off "political bombers" not only from the executive service, but also from the "Berkut" subdivision, then began to humiliate the unit itself, forcing them to go through the "people's" (maydanuty) corridor of shame, after removing the masks. All this was made possible by the betrayal in power. But this is not enough…

Maidan activists threaten reprisals to the families of soldiers of the “Golden Eagle” unit, some sites, for example, http://bandosam.net/berkut_list.html, threatening to start publishing personal data ... But this news Yesterday and flowers, not berries ...

Here's another.

Independence threatens 1 million 400 thousands of people with violence.

“Today, an action“ All-Ukrainian picketing of the Regionals ”was announced on Independence. The main highlight of the action is the following:
• crowded trip to Mezhyhirya;
• pickets of official tuples;
• All-Ukrainian strike.

In addition, "the protesters intend picket houses and offices of members of the Party of Regions ”. But this is serious! Because the life of more than 1400000 people (so many, according to Wikipedia, in Ukraine, members of this political force) can turn into hell.

Massive persecution of people will begin. And just for their beliefs. But what about the Constitution, in which a person has the right to belief, not prohibited by law? And finally, what about the “European values ​​of freedom”? Perhaps they also will create "three"?

It feels like everything goes for this ...

This is evidenced by another statement made recently: "We will" split "dozens of regionals, because they, too, are afraid for their home and family." And how to understand this statement? Perhaps as a threat? In this scenario, I won’t be surprised, the second “People” may appear.
. Source.

Who will stop the coming chaos? Yanukovych chose a wait-and-see tactic. I am not his supporter, but I partially agreed with such tactics, as I expected that the protest would dry out after the New Year holidays, by analogy with the Swamp. But firewoods throw everything up and throw up, so there is a limit to everything! Is counterrevolution possible from the east of Ukraine? Yanukovych is not popular right now, and this is even putting it mildly. I have never liked Donetsk either. But the fact is a fact - "Russian World" in Ukraine was left without a general. Unfortunately, the falling flag from the Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians has no one to catch. Viktor Medvedchuk, with all due respect, does not pull on the role of leader. Eh, now, after years, you understand that death Evgeniya Kushnareva It was definitely not accidental, I recommend to look to the end:



Every year in Ukraine "maydanutyh" will be more and more. This phenomenon does not contribute to population growth in Western Ukraine or even the deterioration of the economy, although it also affects. Simply, Ukrainian universities and schools increasingly produce people with a washed liberal consciousness and with faith in fabulous Europe, where she is waiting for fair competition with Ukrainian goods, as well as donating Anglo-Saxon law, which will even regulate the preparation of the notorious barbecue in the backyard without harming its neighbors and the right to write to men sitting. In the meantime, the Soviet generation, unfortunately, is leaving. I remember very well how the liberals in the 2000s complained to each other that the older generation was hindering their rise to power and in all seriousness discussed the possible limitation of the right to vote for the elderly. Today there is no need for this. Do not forget that the monopoly on social and political protests is left to the liberals and nationalists. Unlike Russia, in Ukraine there are no civil-political organizations "from below" that advocate purely conservative values, such as "The Essence of Time", "Trade Union of Citizens of Russia" etc., but there are many neoliberal and nationalistic movements. You can not hesitate. Literally in 10 years, monuments to Lenin will be demolished in Donetsk, and Pushkin will begin there. It’s not about communism, but about Russian.

Here is the level of "cultural" communication in the Russian-language newspaper of the Russian city of Berdyansk (Ukraine) about the events in the country. Already dominate Russian russophobes, Ivana, not remembering their kinship, come, admire:

Berdyansk Vedomosti (reader comments).

Russian in Russia, quickly bring order to yourself, and sit down at the chess table of geopolitics, otherwise Russophobic Poland No. XXUMX from Lviv to Donetsk will be near you.

We are a severed hand and occupied by 100%, you are the rest of the body, and you still have a chance, and not a bad one.


During 2013, I wrote on the site "Military Review"that Eastern Ukraine is losing the "Russian spirit". It got to the point that in Krivoy Rog supporters are not even just the UPA, but the SS divisions “Galicia” held a parade in broad daylight! Read: Supporters of the SS Division "Galicia" are already preparing to cross the Dnieper. I am equally sick of the problems of Russia and Ukraine. It is unpleasant to read that we are losing the Stavropol Territory and are not rearming too quickly.

PS I know that now they will write to me in the comments, they say, they bring order to themselves, they insult us (Russia), and now ask for help. And I will answer: my city Berdyansk is no different from Taganrog, but the latter was lucky, he is in the Rostov region of the Russian Federation. What about the town Yeisk He founded Count Vorontsov, as did Berdyansk on the Sea of ​​Azov, but Yeisk was also lucky, he is in the Krasnodar Territory of the Russian Federation !! Thinking about it yourself or have to chew? Give me Pskov and 20 years of “independence” with the right to determine education policy, and you will be marched by the UPA in Pskov. After the collapse of the USSR, by inertia we all submit to power, because "the giraffe is big, he knows better." However, examples are enough: Siberian people, Pomeranian people. But here it is strange, representatives of these peoples, like Ukrainian, too, name is Ivanami, Sergey, Maxim, Natasha. Liberals will say that they Russified! But where are so many Russians to take then in order to Russify all and rank them among the Russian peoples? Are we African tribes that divide us as they like and give names? It's a shame! Why are you so easily deceived, oh great Russian ethnos of the great Russian plain, holding it for at least 1000 years?

Do you think the photo is a monument to Count Vorontsov in the town of Yeisk, Krasnodar Territory of the Russian Federation? No, this is a monument in the city of Berdyansk (Ukraine).

Author:
161 comment
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. avant-garde
    avant-garde 15 January 2014 08: 37
    +4
    Exacerbations began again! Urgently maidanut pills to drink.
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 15 January 2014 08: 41
      0
      There is simply no inaction of Russian foreign policy. Spitting on Ukraine and not exerting any influence on what is happening there is a betrayal. Political leaders just do not appear at the behest of orders, they must be created or assisted in their formation.
      Which Russia did not do all the time.
      1. Galich Kos
        Galich Kos 15 January 2014 08: 55
        +32
        Quote: A.YARY
        There is simply no inaction of Russian foreign policy. Spit on Ukraine

        Dear, if Russia didn't give a damn, they would let fraternal Ukraine into the EU to be devoured by Europe and wouldn't bother too much. They would not have provided financial assistance to billions of greens, would not have reduced gas prices, etc.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 15 January 2014 09: 10
          +2
          Quote: Galich Kos
          There is simply no inaction of Russian foreign policy. Spit on Ukraine and not exert any influence on what is happening there-betrayal.


          Therefore, they probably refused to sign the association agreement with the EU ...
      2. Hamul
        Hamul 15 January 2014 09: 01
        +15
        Why should Russia intervene directly? Again we will be guilty of all sin - and so they themselves will choke on their fascist-liberal gall hatred - THIS IS THEIR CHOICE!

        Threat. Gas prices were reduced, a loan was given, a ton of loans was forgiven, Crimea was practically presented with x @ pa - what else?
        What do you want Russia to do - send troops?
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 15 January 2014 09: 55
          +6
          Quote: Hamul
          What do you want Russia to do - send troops?

          Yes, we probably need to send troops. If we don’t defend our own, then who will hope for us? It's like leaving relatives in trouble. And with loans, Russia helps not only those who want to be with us, it helps all of them, including and Bandera. It is still not known how to cut the money.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 15 January 2014 19: 57
            0
            Quote: ele1285
            If we do not protect our own, then who will hope for us? It's like leaving relatives in trouble.

            these are apparently "our" and "relatives" our planes shot down in Georgia ...
            1. alexdol
              alexdol 15 January 2014 22: 38
              +3
              ele1285 (2) RU "Yes, we probably need to send troops."
              --------------------------------------------------
              I am of the same opinion, it is high time to end these stupid games with "nezalezhnosti"!

              DanaF1 RU "This is apparently" ours "and" relatives "our planes shot down in Georgia ..."
              ---------------------------------------------------------
              You are completely wrong! Do you think that you will not find such MIRACLES in RUSSIA ?! Such have always been and, unfortunately, will be ... It is enough to give an example from the history of the Second World War with the ROA Vlasov! I'm tired of repeating, guys, but the current "Ukraine" is the same RUSSIA, only temporarily today it is called that! There is the same RUSSIAN population, the same RUSSIAN language. Remember the same Wasserman, who is respected here, comparatively recently comparing the Ukrainian and Russian languages ​​did not find any fundamental difference in them! Yes, you will never find them there! Are you really ready to agree that this part of RUSSIA, which today is called Ukraine, should be taken away from you? Then the Poles will be at the height of bliss, because this is also their project in order to weaken RUSSIA!
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 15 January 2014 22: 40
                -3
                Quote: alexdol
                You are completely wrong! Do you think that such freaks will not be found in RUSSIA ?! Such have always been and, unfortunately, will be ... It is enough to give an example from the history of the Second World War with the ROA of Vlasov!

                Excuse me, but who was selling them to Buki-M? also ROA Vlasova?
                1. alexdol
                  alexdol 16 January 2014 01: 11
                  +1
                  DanaF1 RU "Excuse me, but who sold Buki-M to them? Vlasov's ROA too?"
                  -----------------------------------------------------------------------
                  Unfortunately, it didn’t reach you at all, as I said above! Your reasoning is quite consistent with your chosen picture: LITTLE GIRLS WITH A PISTOL!
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 16 January 2014 12: 55
                    0
                    Quote: alexdol
                    Unfortunately, it didn’t reach you at all, as I said above!

                    the phrase "you can't be cute by force" doesn't mean anything ...

                    We will accept our "fraternal" republics only when they crawl to us on their knees, only after that it will be possible not to expect a knife in the back from them ... as it was in 91, remember?
                    1. alexdol
                      alexdol 16 January 2014 19: 31
                      +1
                      DanaF1 RU "The phrase" you won't be forcibly sweet "doesn't mean anything ..."
                      -----------------------------------------------------------
                      I will answer you one last time. We'll have to repeat: unfortunately, absolutely nothing came to you!
                      It remains only to provide a link to such a verse, called "Mind and Talent" http://www.stihi.ru/2012/03/11/9972

                      Hopefully this time you will at least understand something! At the same time, I note that although you are performing under the Russian flag, your reasoning is not at all a Russian person, and it would be nice for you to learn GRAMOTE. I did not just cite your phrase "does not speak about anything ...". Flip through the Russian Language textbook at your leisure, I wish you good luck with that!
          2. saber1357
            saber1357 15 January 2014 23: 20
            +5
            Chill out, friend. It’s necessary to calm down, with the introduction of troops, this is not an enema ...
            1. I am
              I am 16 January 2014 18: 10
              0
              ..... not an enema - SCALPEL !!!!! But it doesn’t change the essence, we will remember for a long time about the air defense systems produced by this non-competitive
        2. Cherdak
          Cherdak 15 January 2014 14: 26
          +6
          Quote: Hamul
          THIS IS THEIR CHOICE!



          Yeah, what about .. "The Ukrainian media project (U-Media) - its donors are the US government and the International Development Agency - has created more than 270 television and 1220 thematic radio programs, trained more than 3700 media representatives. Such activities have led to the formation of a critical masses of media people convinced that any disobedience of power is good for the country.

          This abscess will soon erupt, which does not seem enough.

          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 15 January 2014 19: 22
            +3
            “The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry will not declare the American ambassador to Kiev persona non grata for interfering in the internal affairs of the state. Ukraine is too weak a country to be proud... Pride costs money, but we are weak, "said Vadym Kolesnichenko, People's Deputy of Ukraine from the Party of Regions. recourse

            But, firstly, Ukraine cannot afford it. And secondly, according to Kolesnichenko, there will be no reaction to the words of the Ukrainian politician from the United States, since Ukraine is only a colony for American politicians.

            “They do not consider us to be people, they consider only those politicians whom they finance as people. We are a third-grade country, colony, on the territory of which the Americans and Europeans are conducting an experiment, "said Vadim Kolesnichenko.

            Funny revelations of the current politician
          2. Luna
            Luna 15 January 2014 22: 52
            0
            Well, one must, already at that time Bismarck knew such words as national elite and self-consciousness. He could not say "brother kills brother" - everything that was located east of Silesia and south of Pomerania was either Poland or Russia. Bismarck could only suspect the word "Ukraine".
            1. CALL.
              CALL. 16 January 2014 05: 47
              +1
              Quote: Luna
              Bismarck could only suspect the word "Ukraine".


              As reported in the Brockhaus and Efron dictionary, after South Russia entered the Rzeczpospolita as part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania at the end of the 1660th century, part of its territory stretching from Podillya in the west to the mouth of the Dnieper ("Ochakovsky field") in the south and including in itself most of the lands of the future Yekaterinoslav province in the east, began to be unofficially called "Ukraine" in this state. This was due to the border location of these territories in the Polish state: for example, Samuil Hrondsky, the Polish author of the history of the Khmelnytsky uprising (about XNUMX), wrote: "Latin margo (border, border) in Polish kraj, hence Ukraine is the edge of the (Polish) kingdom ".
              There is another version of the origin of the name "Ukraine". In the Turkic languages, the word "kra" meant steppe, and the word "ina" meant a country. Consequently, Ukraine is a "steppe country". In any case - this name existed long before the birth of Bismarck.
            2. CALL.
              CALL. 16 January 2014 06: 32
              0
              Quote: Luna
              He could not say "brother kills brother" -


              In religions, the plot of fratricide plays a huge role. Take Christianity. Cain killed Abel committed a terrible sin - not only killed a man, but also his own brother. In myths and legends in general, brothers are very often found. Apparently, the origins still originate from the archaic epos, because the situation with the brothers is found in folklore both among North American Indians, Australian Aborigines, Finno-Ugric tribes, and the ancient Greeks (Prometheus and his brother), and in Russian ethnic (or derivative) tales. And murder in myths is always symbolic: either the struggle of natural phenomena (divine) and man (God-man), or the struggle of the old with the new. The idiom "Brother kills brother" is quite common in the literature. Well, you already, Bismarck, write in ignorance?
        3. Vasek
          Vasek 16 January 2014 00: 01
          0
          Quote: Hamul
          What do you want Russia to do - send troops?


          In Crimea - 100% would not hurt!
          1. I am
            I am 16 January 2014 18: 11
            0
            And for this, we need a scalpel to cut off everything unnecessary. A CRIMEA should belong to RUSSIA !!!!!
        4. CALL.
          CALL. 16 January 2014 05: 34
          +2
          Quote: Hamul
          Why should Russia intervene directly? Again we will be guilty of all sin

          How to explain the huge scope of protests in Kiev and other Ukrainian cities that literally paralyzed their normal lives? The brainless teen scum that destroyed the monument to Lenin in the center of the Ukrainian capital is just surface foam in the sea of ​​a vast crowd. One of the reasons is the open and aggressive intervention of the West, aimed at fomenting anti-Russian sentiments. Dozens of high-ranking emissaries of the European Union flocked to Kiev, who took a direct part in the protests - an unprecedented arrogance from the point of view of international law. Open, and sometimes brazenly defiant, support for the opposition is also provided by Washington, which sent its “hawkish” senators to Kiev. They openly declare Ukraine faraway and essentially alien to them, the sphere of action of their vital interests. And the second is the actual self-estrangement of Russia from events that, for it, unlike the West, were of vital importance. Russia is denied the right to do this in relation to its closest neighbor, with whom she lived for centuries in a single state. Hence the absence in Kiev, on the same Maidan, of Russian politicians and deputies defending the position of their country, hence the lethargy and inaction of the Russian embassy in Ukraine. Europe - to give Ukraine, unlike Russia, can not do anything substantial, but to disrupt the expansion of cooperation, which is vital for the economies of the two countries, is quite. Well, what impudence must be possessed in order to come forward on behalf of the European Parliament with an appeal to “punish” Russia for “pressure” on Ukraine! They push, brazenly and rudely themselves, and attribute it to the Kremlin, fearfully frightened of Ukrainian events! Here, Geyropa, a mercenary calculation is visible. In the Eurasian space, the formation of the Customs Union, that is, an integration union of states that could oppose the European Union in the future, began. And when Western European leaders feel a threat to their interests, they are not shy about using the most base means. Up to the open support of fascist militants and a semi-criminal rabble actively involved in the fight against “imperial” Russia
      3. CTEPX
        CTEPX 15 January 2014 09: 02
        +6
        Quote: A.YARY
        I don’t give a damn about Ukraine and do not show any influence on what is happening there-betrayal.

        Is this assistance for 15 lards - no effect? The only question is the availability of eggs at Yanyk and his team. In Syria, too, everything was leaked. Initially)).
        I think soon in the milk of Ukraine there will be a churning butter of a frog.
        1. AVV
          AVV 15 January 2014 12: 19
          +3
          Europe, and America, do not want Russia and Ukraine to be together, that's why they do not give loans to the Government, but pay money to the Maydanutykh !!! They see that they are losing such a market, their goods, and Ukraine itself, as a state economically developed they are not interested !!!
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 15 January 2014 17: 24
            +3
            From a dead donkey to Westerners ears, not Ukraine! We have no right to leave our brothers in trouble! And if necessary, we will send troops! No relief to neo-Nazis!
            Brothers, kill Bandera!
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 15 January 2014 17: 50
              +2
              Quote: Basarev
              Brothers, kill Bandera!

              If you kill Bandera, you will save Russia.
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 15 January 2014 20: 00
                +2
                Quote: ele1285
                If you kill Bandera, you will save Russia.

                the call for violent action falls under the article ...
                slow down ...
                1. saber1357
                  saber1357 15 January 2014 23: 22
                  -1
                  Yes, I would have looked at my logo, which, of course, calls for everything to be resolved by peaceful measures.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 15 January 2014 23: 49
                    +2
                    Quote: saber1357
                    Yes, I would look at my logo

                    in profile, as I understand it, it was a break to look ...

                    the picture with the gun doesn’t call for killing anyone, it’s for a second ...
                    In addition, I just do not want the site to be closed for extremism, its individual not smart visitors ...

                    such basic things, but you have to chew ...
                    1. I am
                      I am 16 January 2014 18: 16
                      0
                      Bandera is a common noun ..... like a Troll or an elf))))) no one closes the site for calls to kill elves, and here the same thing)))) Although the warning is not out of place, you can also slow down and express yourself more neutrally)))) )))
              2. I am
                I am 16 January 2014 18: 13
                0
                Then better than two.
        2. I am
          I am 16 January 2014 18: 13
          +1
          Help is needed. There are many of ours, But it should be their choice !!!! Otherwise, then again the progressive minority will sing about the occupation!
      4. Tersky
        Tersky 15 January 2014 10: 05
        +4
        Quote: A.YARY
        Political leaders just do not appear at the behest of orders, they must either be created or assisted in their formation.
        Which Russia did not do all the time.

        Andrew, hi ! One question is whose protégé is Yanukovych? And how much has this person contributed to the rapprochement between Russia and Ukraine since the election?
        1. A.YARY
          A.YARY 15 January 2014 14: 37
          +1
          Victor, Alexander is a good day.
          Do you know this expression "Pretend"?
          Behind all the "gestures" of Russian "politicians" in the Ukrainian direction, this is exactly what one sees, pretending.
          Of course, 15ml is a killer argument, for those who are near.
          And for those who look more closely, this is an understandable result. It is called "fire measures".
          I am asking you Victor and Alexander the question: Why did you have to bring to this?
          This money would be enough for a sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo point side side opportunity of the Maidan so that Ukraine could join the Nenets Autonomous Okrug!
          Well, Yanyk, he is such a protege, you know how .... "in the absence of fish and the pike will become cancer" that's what he is.
          He is not a leader. I talked about education and help in becoming a leader.
          Alexander
          Direct interference in the affairs of a sovereign state? Do you advocate for this? And then how will we differ from the image that the Ukrainian nations painted? They will turn out to be right.
          Don't you think that they are hoping for indecisive ones? Like "Do you have it, or not?"
          I believe that we do not have the right to take into account any accusations of insurgents of the Western special services, whoever they were. Point.
          We restore OUR! And let go of the shit!
          The truth is ours.
          In one, Nevsky is right - the farther from the collapse we are in time, the less relatives remain ... We are dying out
          The day will come very soon when there is no one and no one to hear - "We are one people!"
      5. domokl
        domokl 15 January 2014 10: 08
        +5
        Quote: A.YARY
        I don’t give a damn about Ukraine and do not show any influence on what is happening there-betrayal.

        Hi Andrey! But what then is the money to support Ukraine, not Yanukovych, but Ukraine? Direct intervention in the affairs of a sovereign state? Do you advocate for this? And how will we differ from the image painted by the Ukrainian nations? are right ...
        I’m thinking now. Maybe I’m some kind of not the right Russian? I go fishing in American military uniforms, in general I hunt in German ... Not a patriot? Hidden agent of influence? But no. It's just that the form is more convenient and better than ours ... Verified since Soviet times ...
        So it is Ukraine. I want to dress comfortably and beautifully, have a satisfying meal, but nobody knows how. Nevsky is right about one thing: the farther we are from the collapse, the less we have relatives ... We are dying out, Russians are already growing up separately and separately Ukrainians. And if in the short that there is something left for us) time we won’t return everything to the ass, we won’t create an alliance, Russia and Ukraine will completely get rid of each other ...
      6. ed65b
        ed65b 15 January 2014 11: 31
        +2
        Quote: A.YARY
        There is simply no inaction of Russian foreign policy. Spit on Ukraine and not exert any influence on what is happening there-betrayal.

        What do you want from Zurabov ???? He is m ... to complete. Do you look at his face?
      7. Russ69
        Russ69 15 January 2014 11: 47
        +4
        Quote: A.YARY
        There is simply no inaction of Russian foreign policy. Spit on Ukraine and not exert any influence on what is happening there-

        Real politics are usually done behind closed doors and are not disclosed. I have all these Maidan and others, only entourage. An uncontrolled surge of protest, no one wants, because the consequences are not predictable. But changing the ambassador to Ukraine would not hurt. And then Zurabov, personally from me, doesn’t even cause a little bit of confidence. There would be someone with Rogozin's charisma.
      8. Makarov
        Makarov 15 January 2014 13: 55
        +1
        not so simple...
      9. evgenii67
        evgenii67 15 January 2014 14: 53
        +10
        "Give me Pskov and 20 years of" nezalezhnosti "with the right to determine the policy of education, and you will have UPA marches in Pskov." but the author is right, it is quite possible to brainwash anyone and in any way with some effort. As a result, we get that the brother hates his brother. Here on VKontakte, a survey was conducted in some group: "Do you want to live in one country? Answer options: YES I live in Russia, NO I live in Russia; YES I live in Ukraine, NO I live in Ukraine; YES I live in R Belarus, NO I live in the Republic of Belarus - the result was as follows, in Russia the majority is FOR (somewhere 70 to 30%) in Belarus is approximately equal, but in Ukraine, with a slight advantage AGAINST. And social networks also partly make their contribution ...
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 16 January 2014 00: 12
          +1
          Quote: evgenii67
          And social networks partly also contribute.


          Social nets the entire Maghreb and the Middle East were set on fire.
          How can this be ignored (both to Yanukovych and Putin) ?!
      10. saber1357
        saber1357 15 January 2014 23: 19
        0
        Well you're yar, cooler than yell ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 08: 47
      +6
      Quote: avant-garde
      not a stronger psyche has begun!

      This is not a stronger, but a steady and matured schiza. It will be interesting to read what Captain Vrungel will write this time. Probably again he will say that all lies are provocateurs from the authorities.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 15 January 2014 08: 55
        +1
        Hi Sasha! Ah Berdyansk is a wonderful city! The most beautiful and not afraid of the word Russian city. I was there at the Berdyansk University. And girls, mmmm, Sasha, if you get married, you have to go there.
        And on the topic I will not even write anything ....
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 09: 02
          +3
          Quote: klimpopov
          Sasha, if you get married, you have to go there.

          No, Klim, if I’m tearing to a village, I’m tired of the urban stone jungle to the point of nausea.
          Hi hi
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 15 January 2014 09: 07
            +4
            Sash, what a stone jungle is there. Berdyansk - a town similar to the "White Resort" is beautiful and not big on the banks of the Azov.))) And the village is the village of strife.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 10: 45
              +1
              Quote: klimpopov
              Berdyansk - a town similar to the "White Resort" is beautiful and not large on the banks of the Azov.))) And the village is the village of strife

              Well, as I understand it, real estate prices there are such that I can buy myself a small house, only if a billionaire relative who escaped from Russia dies in London laughing
              PS One has already bent, but so far no happy letters have arrived winked
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 15 January 2014 10: 51
                +1
                Nope. I don’t think so. Sea of ​​Azov Buy calmly. In Vladik you will sell - there you will buy two houses))))
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 10: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: klimpopov
                  Nope. I don’t think so. Sea of ​​Azov Buy calmly.

                  Klim, we got 200 bucks, the steward himself Naidu wink
                  House for sale, 2 floors, 164 sq.m, 4 rooms, luxury, plot 9 acres
                  Berdyansk, Embankment
                  300 000 dollars
                  http://megamakler.com.ua/berdyansk/house-sale/
                  1. klimpopov
                    klimpopov 15 January 2014 11: 10
                    +2
                    Fuck you on the waterfront? Also a suite. You asked for a house!
                    56 500 $ (1 877 981 rub. Or 41 353 €)
                    For sale 2-x house in the Center, located on the street. Red The total area of ​​the house is 75 sq. m., residential - 38 sq. m. Kitchen - dining area of ​​14 square. m. The house has a bathroom, pantry. AT

                    16 000 $ (531 818 rub. Or 11 710 €)
                    One-storey house for sale in the microdistrict 8 Marta, located on the street. Sevastopol. House with total area - 50 sq. m., consisting of 3 living rooms, a corridor and a kitchen

                    So shi inappropriately la-la))))
                    Ask for more wassat
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 11: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: klimpopov
                      Ask for more

                      It's like a paradise in a hut wink
      2. domokl
        domokl 15 January 2014 10: 12
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is not a strong, but a steady and mature shiz

        lol Hello to the psychiatrists! Sasha is healthy. This is not a schiz, but a well-formed way of thinking ... Yesterday I talked with my son ... he, as it turned out, did not give a damn about the situation with Ukraine. His problems are enough. And this is already Russian youth. Also formed consciousness-Ukraine is another country and whatever it is, it doesn’t shake us .. Or, as he says, the problems of the Sheriff Indians don’t ... shake ..
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 10: 42
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          This is not a schiz, but a well-formed way of thinking ..

          Well, I say, mental deviation caused by mental disorder of the mental processes of the brain-schizophrenia.
          Quote: domokl
          . Yesterday I talked with my son ... he, as it turned out, did not give a damn about the situation with Ukraine. His problems are enough

          It's not scary when I was 15 I didn’t give a damn about the fact that the USSR collapsed. Then over the years you start scratching your turnips.
          hi san hi
      3. Anper
        Anper 15 January 2014 18: 10
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        steady and ripened shiz

        “I had the opportunity to observe annoying and hysterical nationalism. The organization had no constructive program, except for the general phrases“ vizol'naya struggle ”and“ spiritually degenerated nationalism ”.
        "Instead of the expected leadership, the organization (OUN) brought to our society rozbrat, two-podil and fraternal violence ... they came up with the initiative of mass actions that corresponded to them most of all: 1) greetings to the Germans as liberators with the device of triumphal arches, 2) the demonstrative funeral of those tortured by the Bolsheviks, 3) filling "graves of glory." The involvement of thoughtless people, especially young people, such actions ... was extraordinary " (my translation)
        Doesn’t resemble anything? But it was written in 1941 by an ardent Russophobe, anti-Soviet, head of the Ukrainian Regional Committee, the only one officially cooperating with the Germans during the occupation of Galicia by Kostem Pankivsky.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 15 January 2014 13: 41
      +5
      Quote: avant-garde
      Exacerbations began again! Urgently maidanut pills to drink.


      One thousand riot police and three days, give and forget that just did once there was some kind of Maidan, even this place will not remain.
      1. matross
        matross 15 January 2014 22: 34
        +4
        Quote: Geisenberg
        A thousand riot police and three days

        Exactly! On the Maidan now concentrated the main rabid. A decisive force action could work. Only it is decisive and tough! And all in prisons, and in prison hospitals ... Introduce an emergency mode for a couple of days. There is no other way, it seems they themselves will not fade, there is too much support and recharge from the outside.
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 16 January 2014 00: 23
          +2
          Quote: matRoss
          Exactly! On the Maidan now concentrated the main rabid. A decisive force action could work. Only it is decisive and tough! And all in prisons, and in prison hospitals ... Introduce an emergency mode for a couple of days. There is no other way, it seems they themselves will not fade, there is too much support and recharge from the outside.


          It interferes with the fact that the head of the pentagon (completely disheartened personality!) In a telephone conversation banned Yanukovych (the legitimate President of a sovereign state!) Forced dispersal of the Maidan.
          Explain how such a thing could have been devoured?
  2. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 15 January 2014 08: 38
    +20
    Yanukovych himself pro @ ral his happiness. Instead of friendship with Russia, he preferred flirting with the famous traitor of everything and everything to the West. As a result, the east of Ukraine is disappointed, and the Westerners of Yanuka were never loved. The president is hanging, he has lost his support.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 January 2014 09: 04
      +4
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      . Instead of friendship with Russia, he preferred flirting with the famous traitor of everything and everything to the West.

      Well maybe he sadomaso
    3. igor36
      igor36 15 January 2014 09: 07
      +2
      Ukraine has lost a lot of time because of the ... bills from the previous Maidan led by Yushchenko and Tymoshenko, Yanukovych needs to catch up, and he seems afraid of a repeat of 2004.
      1. Kolya
        Kolya 15 January 2014 10: 14
        +8
        Yanukovych and his oligarchy are werewolves! Until we understand this for ourselves, we cannot create a cohesive about Russian power in Ukraine.
    4. domokl
      domokl 15 January 2014 10: 17
      +5
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      The president is hanging, he has lost his support.

      I won’t even argue .... It is. Only one remark, Yanukovych never particularly favored Moscow. He used the fact that the others openly opposed and won. The rest is our thoughts.
      His task was clearly expressed by him on several occasions: Ukraine is a European country. Another thing is that the EU did not give guarantees in terms of economic and personal benefits and security. That’s why I did it a bit ... Assign and sign in a couple of months .. Our money only sorry repeat
      1. sanitarlesa
        sanitarlesa 15 January 2014 22: 42
        +2
        Yes, ours are not fools either. let us hang on the hook than geyrops
    5. xan
      xan 15 January 2014 14: 45
      +2
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      As a result, the east of Ukraine is disappointed, and the Westerners of Yanuka were never loved. The president is hanging, he has lost his support.

      And here Vovan is all in white with 15 billion, a discount on gas and security guarantees in case of anything.
      And someone thinks that Russia is not doing anything with Ukraine.
      It is necessary to monitor the development of the situation.
    6. Vadim67
      Vadim67 15 January 2014 20: 13
      +5
      Thanks to Geiromaidan, Yanukovych’s rating began to rise. I am not his supporter, but if I have to choose between national fascists and Yanukovych, then I will vote for Yanukovych. Of the two evils, you have to choose the lesser.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 15 January 2014 23: 29
        +1
        Quote: Vadim67
        if you have to choose between the Nazis and Yanukovych, I will vote for Yanukovych. Of the two evils, you have to choose the lesser

        But the representative of the USA surpassed all. In today's very entertaining interview with the UE, the former US ambassador John Herbst scattered in cloying compliments, who would you think - Yanukovych. “Yes, Yanukovych is not intellectual. And Tymoshenko, too, cannot be called an intellectual. But everyone agrees that Tymoshenko is smart. However, not everyone believes that Yanukovych is smart. He is smart in the sense that he had a vision of politics. We could talk with him about NATO, about energy, about taxes. He did not hold a piece of paper in his hands with which he read out the theses. We talked with him, as you are now, about complicated things. Then, people laughed at him because they did not love him - and they were wrong. ” Herbst hinted that everyone who calls for an assault on the administrative buildings plays into Yanukovych’s hands, but, in general, it’s unprofitable for Yanukovych to arrange force dispersal. “... If he begins to arrest people for participating in protests, he will be severely criticized by the US and the EU. Does it bother him? I think so, because Yanukovych does not want to be Putin’s pawn. ” The ex-ambassador advised the opposition and Maidan to finally decide on really real priorities and be realistic. At the end of the interview in John, the blood of the hero of the frontier woke up, and he reminded with charming spontaneity that everyone had a "snout in the dust." “Yushchenko is a lighter shade of gray, while Kuchma and Yanukovych are a darker shade of gray. Many oligarchs in Yushchenko’s team did not differ much from the oligarchs of Yanukovych. And Yulia Tymoshenko was also an oligarch - she made her money in a way that did not differ much from the way in which the oligarchs earned it in the Kuchma team ... "
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-135561.html
  3. makarov
    makarov 15 January 2014 08: 42
    +22
    never when he was not, and I am not a member of any party, moreover, in principle. In the news mode, I look and listen to different politicians and their statements. And if the speeches of the Zapadentsev cause my rejection of their dogmas and promises, then the messengers of PR leaders such as Azarov, Vilkul, Arbuzov, Chechetov, Kolesnikov, Shufrich, German, and the like, openly hate me, because they smelled of lies, hypocrisy and meanness .
    Yes. Kushnaryov really was the main leader in PR, and I had respect for him. I talked with different people who knew him personally and talked to him, the reviews were positive. Doubts that it is physically eliminated due to power in the sane are not caused.
    1. Kolya
      Kolya 15 January 2014 10: 23
      +6
      100% agree with Makarov. To know what is happening in Ukraine, one must live there. I am sure that in Russia they do not fully feel what is happening there.
      1. alone
        alone 15 January 2014 20: 20
        +3
        Quote: Kohl
        100% agree with Makarov. To know what is happening in Ukraine, one must live there. I am sure that in Russia they do not fully feel what is happening there.


        Despite the fact that most are not aware of what is happening there, some have already gathered to send troops there)))
        1. Passer
          Passer 15 January 2014 21: 07
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          Despite the fact that most are not aware of what is happening there, some have already gathered to send troops there)))


          Why not? The normal way of "democratic" influence. I am sure that most Americans do not even know about the existence of those states where American troops are located. smile
  4. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 15 January 2014 08: 46
    +9
    Snot, drool, read disgusting! And how should Russia help Ukraine? Throw another ten billion, for the development of citizens not stale, love of Russia? Or annex its eastern part and bomb the western? Since Ukraine cannot or does not want to be a single state, then maybe it should be divided, as Czechoslovakia was divided at one time and each part will go its own way, so to speak.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 15 January 2014 10: 38
      +3
      Quote: Galich Kos
      Since Ukraine cannot or does not want to be a single state, then maybe it should be divided

      There is one problem, if the western part becomes independent, a fascist regime will be proclaimed there, and real genocide of half of the population that does not support fascists will begin .. If in the Baltic states the repressive system turned anti-fascists into non-citizens, then in Galicia I’ll be afraid of the physical elimination of unnecessary biomass ..
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 15 January 2014 11: 03
      +8
      The problem is that the Maydan from Galicians want ALL Ukraine. Their western masters - even more so! Hence all the problems.
    3. I am
      I am 16 January 2014 18: 21
      0
      In 1991 already shared. Maybe it's time to unite on the contrary ?????? Until it's not too late....
  5. My address
    My address 15 January 2014 08: 47
    +6
    Sailed ...
    Where is our ambassador Zurabov? Why doesn't it ring all the bells? Because he is no good.
    And where are the public organizations we support, such as the society of cultural relations, in Ukraine? Why are they not visible and not heard? Why, why ... And for the head of cabbage!
    The impression is that on a regular basis, either Medvedev or Chubais is engaged in foreign policy with close neighbors. But, for example, competent actions in relation to Syria
    1. domokl
      domokl 15 January 2014 10: 26
      +1
      fool It’s interesting, what is interference in the internal politics of the state? Of course, one can refer to the American experience of spitting on all these ethical standards and interstate agreements. Only we are not Americans, we are Russian ...
      1. My address
        My address 15 January 2014 11: 28
        +1
        I answer in order.

        1. Regarding the emoticon addressed to me. Naturally, I will not send copies of the labor, diploma, as. for evidence that intelligence is well above stools. Check out my comments. And so what to say - there was a better opinion about domoki.

        2. Where I proposed illegal financing or the creation of secret societies, well, where? Is this a secret for everyone that interstate propaganda with financing by the propaganda party is acceptable? But is it not known that the embassy can distribute its magazine for the price of at least two pennies for a colorful, interesting, page-sized issue? Of course, within the laws. I do not think that Ukraine will prohibit this.
      2. Galich Kos
        Galich Kos 15 January 2014 11: 44
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        Of course, one can refer to the American experience of spitting on all these ethical standards

        No need to take an example from fools.
  6. Hamul
    Hamul 15 January 2014 08: 52
    +6
    IT IS WHO LOSES THE STAVROPOL REGION THERE?

    easier with such expressions - everything is fine with us. Yes we cling, yes we fight, yes we were sent to the Russian North Caucasian Military District instead of the Southern Federal District, and ????? WE LIVE AND WILL LIVE!

    PS. In general, the North Caucasus Military District + Southern Federal District is very, very provided with new types of weapons.


    And in Vilnius Ukraine, you yourself deal with your troubles. You were the breadbasket in the USSR! you had everything - WHERE did it go?

    I don’t like living under the maydan’s and in action + fascism — there are at least two ways out — a referendum on secession from Ukraine (by the way, Ukraine is near the edge — that’s why the hell knows where you are) or dying from poverty, gritting one’s teeth (with the entrance to the European Union) looking on how we live. However, there are shaft outputs. But there is a question - DOES THIS YOU NEED IT?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2014 09: 05
      +6
      I agree about the Stavropol Territory! Normally, everything is here with us, at least we have been living here for 200 for years, nothing new for us. It just creates the feeling that people outside the UK put the idea of ​​losing the edge artificially into their heads.
      Friends from Russia tell me))) they say that how do you go to the KCR the war O_O is there - I’ve been saying OK for 20 for how many (relatives) I’ve been traveling, my mother put me on a Circassian train (doll) from the age of five and I went to Shakhar grandmother went. But that's how I am.
      Matter of habit. And if they still helped us with the laws and freed our hands, we would have ensured order ...
      This is lyrics ...

      And in Vilnius Ukraine, you yourself deal with your troubles. You were the breadbasket in the USSR! you had everything - WHERE did it go?

      And here I do not agree. Help is needed. Throwing Ukraine to its own devices and tearing to pieces the Western jackals would be wrong, one-pointed.
      1. Hamul
        Hamul 15 January 2014 09: 21
        +2
        How else do you offer them help?

        If you dream, then take directly the entire eastern part of Ukraine and Crimea - but it will be a disaster for everyone, and especially for the Russian Federation.

        There is a massive aggression of the entire Western world to Ukraine, One Russian Federation simply cannot survive without the help and desire of the Ukrainian people - IMHO.

        Threat. But the desire is not observed.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 January 2014 09: 24
          +3
          There is a massive aggression of the entire Western world to Ukraine, One Russian Federation simply cannot survive without the help and desire of the Ukrainian people - IMHO.

          There is a massive aggression against Russia through Ukraine IMHO.

          Threat. But the desire is not observed.

          This is what is visible on TV ...
          1. RBLip
            RBLip 15 January 2014 12: 18
            +5
            Klim, I’m about help ... all just my thoughts ...
            so here. in short, this Ukraine already got it. if it’s more detailed, well, I can’t understand why Russia owes to this pseudo-country and is obliged constantly? give me money, money, money, otherwise we’ll get to the geyropu. gave Russian money. few. and in general, did your problems end in Russia? pensioners live happily, roads have turned into autobahns, corruption is at zero, utilities, the army, medicine ... here we gave you a loan (I’ll notice a rather big one, and everyone understands that they will NEVER give it back), I forgive the tuey debt. so let Pu give my mother retired about ten years old for such a gift. I forgave the loan. Well, what am I worse than the same conditional vani-peti-sasha from some Vinnitsa-Kiev-Lugansk? moreover, I, unlike them, work and not on the Maidan throat tear. why in my Russia the priorities are ALWAYS not directed inward but outward? yes even if so. why Transnistria asks for a prayer - take it to you, we want. they blew a snout. the same yell - get. to them with all my heart. are they brothers? I have no brothers there. Of course, we can talk about geopolitics for a long time. like Russia without Ukraine is not an empire, etc. etc. that's just ... TIRED. they want to be brothers, let them be. in the meantime ... everything shows the exact opposite. something like this. let it be messy, but from the heart.
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 15 January 2014 12: 30
              +1
              I understand it’s boiling up, by and large I have the same questions. About geopolitics then I will not.
              As it was rightly noted here - there simply is no choice, or rather there is, but ...
  7. shark
    shark 15 January 2014 08: 55
    +6
    Everything is complicated in Ukraine. Probably the only option not to slip into mutual accusations is just to sit and watch how it will end in Ukraine. But this is not right. So you can shave everything. Probably instead of billions, Kiev is better to give the same billions to direct Donetsk, Crimea , Odessa, Zaporozhye. In my opinion, this is the only way out. Tell me it’s not ethical. I don’t give a damn. Ukrainians themselves do not reckon with the Ukrainian authorities. All the more, for the sake of reckoning. It’s probably worthwhile to muffle the signals of Ukrainian television and radio from your territory. it is possible. But is there a political will for our leadership? While the percentage of liberals in the corridors of power is great, there will be no will. Liberals are the main enemies of Russia and Ukraine.
  8. Baton
    Baton 15 January 2014 08: 55
    +4
    Well, what can I say? It hurts and offends for the brotherly people ...
  9. Lumumba
    Lumumba 15 January 2014 08: 56
    +2
    Fools

    Apparently all this will end with a massacre and a lot of blood.
    1. mrFix
      mrFix 15 January 2014 18: 05
      +1
      Will not be. The owners are already kicking them out of the cannibal mutants http://www.segodnya.ua/politics/pnews/espch-reshil-ne-pomogat-maydanu-488618.htm
      l laughing
  10. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 15 January 2014 09: 05
    +9
    Putin needs to take the situation under his personal control, if we do not want the worst scenario, Convince Yanukovych to leave (but first crush the reptile of the Maidan) .... A sensible candidate is required in Ukraine who could win the early elections and lead the country, but not sideways connected with the clan of Yanukovych, which has lost confidence even in the east, Are we really profiting from Ukraine, a worthless price for us then, And the "loss" of Ukraine will be a signal for nationalists of all stripes in Russia itself - the Caucasus, Bashkiria, Tatarstan .......... ........
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 15 January 2014 11: 00
      +12
      It will not work through Putin. We ourselves, Russians must somehow interfere. And then again, what kind of Putin dictator will stink, etc.
      Ukrainians! Guys! Make a website where you can donate money for your fight! It will not work without dough. Even Pozharsky’s warriors were paid money, there’s nothing wrong with that.
      We need real fighters, we just need extras, we need people sitting on forums, hackers so that maidanut sites banged, a printing house, to throw leaflets on maidanut people to throw that they are 3.14 gifts, even their nicknames in gay magazines take pictures, and Europeans make them marriages gay to legalize.
      Since they begin to spread the Old Berkut info into the network, it means that they themselves need to be calculated.

      Need propaganda in the Army. Again, with emphasis on the fact that maydanutye - frankly for gays.
      I am afraid clashes cannot be avoided, but then the reason will appear tougher for the state to act against the maydanutyh (like "we are separating the people"). In short, it is necessary to adequately respond to their intimidation.
    2. shark
      shark 15 January 2014 11: 36
      +4
      That's right. Only Putin will not help if we simple Russian guys passively observe how our country is divided. It doesn’t matter if you are a Muscovite or a Kazan or a Siberian. We must fight for our country. We have one!
      1. Anper
        Anper 15 January 2014 12: 55
        +1
        To remove Zurabov for unsuitability is precisely his direct business.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 15 January 2014 13: 42
        +2
        Well how! How will we fight? Do we have leverage? Only through the Internet can I destroy these Bandera-morally as you know, Whatever the attitude to V.V. he can really manage the situation. Now he is at the top of the political world elite, authority, etc. ............ and in his power to influence the situation in Ukraine, and there are many levers in his hands, like special (special services, etc.) and political! In any case, Russia has no right to lose control over the situation in Ukraine!
  11. svoi
    svoi 15 January 2014 09: 28
    +7
    Our people, too, do not decide anything, our government seems to be deeply and absolutely ... especially after the construction of the southern stream is completed. It's a shame to ... primordially Russian territories, it inconveniently turns out in front of people, like the author of this article. Most of the Maidan people do not build illusions, and they only need the opportunity, unimpeded, to endow themselves in the EU, for 500-700 euros, they are ready to eat, but their homeland is where it is more satisfying. This is the mentality of the Great Burning Ukrainian
  12. askort154
    askort154 15 January 2014 09: 38
    +4
    Yanukovych, as a poor captain of a ship approaching a storm, is afraid of him and does not know what to do. The same captain was Gorbachev.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. zzz
      zzz 15 January 2014 11: 21
      +1
      Captain of the yacht ".. BEDA"
  13. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 15 January 2014 09: 44
    +5
    Well, from Zurabov, the ambassador is like from the city .... buckshot. And the money to support the pro-Russian movements, as usual, was "lost." Ukraine now needs our help and support more than ever, only it needs to be provided where it is needed and to those who need it, of course based on the geopolitical interests of Russia.
    1. 311ove
      311ove 15 January 2014 09: 58
      +3
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      .And the money to support the pro-Russian movements was "lost" as usual.

      Ha, well, just lost .... lol Ask Zurabov! hi
  14. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 January 2014 10: 08
    +7
    Seeing a lot of money has been invested in this western project "Maidown" .. All will not calm down .. Provocation after provocation goes as they wait for forceful dispersal .. I think the tactic of waiting is correctly chosen .. The maidan stench there probably is worth it .. Hold on Ukraine! Yanukovych of course brought the country ... am
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 15 January 2014 10: 45
      +3
      I don’t know whether Yanukovych .... There, the brains of the people have been cleared from the very collapse of the USSR. Here you have the result of zombies ...
  15. Magadan
    Magadan 15 January 2014 10: 43
    +9
    What do we have now? Crowd gather and go wall to wall? Although, I'm afraid it will come to this.
    For now, try to knock out the soil ideologically. I suggest EVERYONE who can search for Ukrainian forums. There is terrible aggression towards us, but it will have to be patient. I personally write:
    1) Your Klitschko - 3.14dar, because photographed for a gay magazine.
    2) Euroassociation requires the legalization of 3.14 gifted marriages.
    3) If maydanutye are for gays, then is their "Ukrainian church" (schismatics) also for gays? Since she also supports the Maidan?
    In short, a smaller economy, let them answer clearly - 3.14 gifts are they all there or not ??? !!!
    Well, since they are 3.14 gifts, then everything is clear with them. Georgians out, albeit with NATO, and so gaudy gays that I already enviable. Demolished the entire gay demonstration along with police trucks (by the way, the police didn’t really mind along the way)
    Lived, damn it. To hate "Moskals" so much that not only become a fascist, but also 3.14 a gift.

    I am more and more inclined towards the East demanding that this Galicia be thrown to hell.
    Not only are freeloaders, but also all the demoniac from there.
    And demoness from what? FROM the complex - they dutifully until 1918 either under the Poles, then under the Austro-Hungarians. They spread rot as they wanted, but they never had a spirit of rebellion ((unlike Bohdan Khmelnitsky and Malorossov). Then they were included in the Russian World and they let their steam pour out, accumulated over centuries of humiliation.
    That’s the whole secret to you from where so many maydanutyh.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2014 10: 55
      +3
      I am more and more inclined towards the East demanding that this Galicia be thrown to hell.

      Do you think their psheks will take to themselves? Nope. In this case, we get an aggressive piece of territory without a livelihood. What will it do? Correctly create a threat to borders and so on.
      It is the same as demanding to separate the Caucasus from Russia. With some amendments, of course, but the essence is the same. IMHO
      1. Anper
        Anper 15 January 2014 12: 37
        +11
        Greetings from Western Ukraine.
        So, it’s simpler to do everything - part of the memory is in Europe, clinging to any work and can’t stand on the Maidan. The second part, having walked away is holy, is now waiting in lines at the pre-sale ticket offices, buying up tickets for Moscow and St. Petersburg.Not allowed to work in Russia - in a couple of months, all the Maidan of the world will be swept away. A comforting bonus for those who think that all Bandera is here - one familiar with the classic name Melnik, who has worked for 10 years in Portugal and has been sitting here for a couple of years, was recently wanted (according to the classical scenario) throughout the city for his wife (for not appearing home at night) for suspected of treason. I came home myself, with a huge fingal under my eye - there was a bit of activists from a lone Maidan tent of a local scale for campaigning for the USSR, friendship with Russia, etc. The people passing by Melnik saved, defended and supported as a sober-minded and hardworking person, unlike activists sitting for months on the Maidan.
        1. xan
          xan 15 January 2014 15: 00
          +6
          Quote: Anper
          he was wanted (according to the classical scenario) throughout the city for his wife (for not appearing home at night) on suspicion of treason. He came home himself, with a huge fingal under his eye - he was beaten by activists of a lone Maidan tent of a local scale for campaigning for the USSR, friendship with Russia, etc. P.

          That’s all, ahtung!
          A politician was born, went outside and got into politics.
          The wife thought she was cheating on her, and he cheated on Ukraine.
          It's cool there with you.
  16. ing
    ing 15 January 2014 11: 07
    +4
    Shark is right, everything is complicated in Ukraine and you can't just "stupidly" give money to someone, this will only warm up the nationalists, they are waiting for this, so there was a proposal in the comments to directly develop economic relations with enterprises in the South-East, I think it is correct and effective. This will raise the economy and resilience of the South-East from the "Galicians" and give work to everyone in Ukraine. This is the most effective aid to Ukraine at the moment, I think that the Kremlin understands this and is working to prepare economic ties directly.
    1. zzz
      zzz 15 January 2014 11: 32
      +1
      That would be great! We need to revive Eastern Ukraine. There, after all, RUSSIAN PEOPLE! You can’t leave them. They are waiting for help from Russia. But who heard them? .......
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 15 January 2014 12: 00
      +1
      Quote: ing
      This is the most effective help to Ukraine at the moment. I think that the Kremlin understands this and is working on preparing economic ties directly.

      In the implementation of all joint projects with Ukraine, their total amount can reach 50bn. Baku. This is the price of all state property of Ukraine, according to some estimates.
  17. zzz
    zzz 15 January 2014 11: 16
    +3
    Quote: klimpopov
    I am more and more inclined towards the East demanding that this Galicia be thrown to hell.
    Do you think their psheks will take to themselves? Nope.


    I would pay extra and let the Maidan move to Warsaw!
    1. Oh_ho_ho
      Oh_ho_ho 15 January 2014 13: 07
      +1
      I am inclined to do the same. If gangrene develops on a limb, it must be amputated. Just do not give up and worry about anti-fascist-minded citizens in Gallichina.
  18. ed65b
    ed65b 15 January 2014 11: 37
    +2
    20 years of comrade in anti-Russian hysteria and propaganda. Don't forget this. The eastern part of Ukraine surrendered power in Kiev and the whole of Ukraine to the "Westerners" without a fight. What is now to swagger. It's too late, my friend, just over the knee. But the authorities cannot do this either, the assets are in the west. There are no rights 100 times when our GDP made a move in favor of refusing to keep and own bank accounts and real estate of state officials in the west. There is no Putin in Ukraine and it is unlikely that there will be, which is a pity.
  19. demon184
    demon184 15 January 2014 11: 38
    +2
    We need to give loans not to the whole outskirts, but only about Russian regions and politicians, and let Yanuk himself dissolve what he has brewed.
  20. Federal
    Federal 15 January 2014 11: 53
    +3
    Pu's choice is that he has no choice ... He never really needs Ukraine, especially if we remember crazy Galicia, I wonder when he finally gets it and stops talking about "partnership and cooperation" and bribing our prisoner !? But it is even more stupid to turn Russia into a cash cow, for good it is necessary to have a Ukrainian. bankrupt and take the east, but this requires a strong army and not to donate tens of billions of turkey to Bangladesh at nuclear power plants for mythical Rosatom projects from potential homeless people and enemies with a payback period of 30 years, or enemies are in the government, but rather money launderers with grief and grief -Kireenko, but this is so by the way that there is no money .... Pu has one way out to split Hohland and the sooner he understands this, the sooner his utopia about a new kind of scoop will come true, where Russia will again be a cash cow. Beauty!!!
    1. anarky
      anarky 15 January 2014 12: 23
      +3
      Well, yes, of course, Europeans will give the most delicious piece from Ukraine to tear off. What a strange look you have at Darth Pu. Either he is the enemy of the people, then he wants to collect the USSR.

      You don’t know about nuclear power plants, don’t talk.
    2. Don
      Don 15 January 2014 19: 34
      0
      Quote: Federal
      donation of tens of billions of turkey to bangladeshi for nuclear power plant on mythical projects of Rosatom

      You don’t know what you’re talking about. Rosatom does not throw some money into the wind, if it were to throw it, it would not have net profit of $ 1,5 billion.
      1. Federal
        Federal 15 January 2014 23: 34
        -1
        I don’t know what his profit is, due to the soviet heritage, I’m sure ... but the fact that every year billions of dollars are withdrawn from the deficit budget of the Russian Federation is extremely dangerous in frankly hostile countries (Turkey). are needed in the east of D., Nechernozenmye and hell knows where it is a fact ... Is it GDP growth? Is it economic growth?
        1. anarky
          anarky 16 January 2014 00: 58
          0
          Oh, are you sure? Well, we don’t need another confirmation. The fact that Rosatom is developing new VVER and BN reactors, is building nuclear power plants around the world, is actively engaged in the extraction and enrichment of uranium, in the production of equipment for the nuclear industry, and so on. Of course, it means nothing to you.
          Turkey is a member of the UN and NATO, which means a completely reliable country. By the way, they have much more GDP than Ukraine;) Now they need electric energy and offer a very high price. This is a long-term investment, a source of stable income until 2080. And I hope Rosatom will build 20 more of these around the world. The oil will end, and the cunning Russians will jump from an oil needle to a uranium :) Maybe even during this period we will tighten industrialization)
          1. Don
            Don 16 January 2014 12: 02
            0
            Quote: Federal
            I don’t know what his profit is,

            You do not seem to know anything at all, but you are trying hard to prove.
            Quote: anarky
            Well, we don’t need another confirmation.

            Thank you friend answered one to one that I wanted to write.
            Quote: anarky
            Maybe even during this period we will tighten industrialization)

            You’ve been pulling up for several years now. At the metallurgical plants in full swing and upgrade, and build new ones. I’m just working in this area. Yes, and in other industries, primarily engineering and chemical industry.
        2. Don
          Don 16 January 2014 12: 15
          -1
          Quote: Federal
          but the fact that billions of dollars are withdrawn from the deficit budget of the Russian Federation every year

          1. Rosat is self-sufficient, it does not need to allocate money for it from the budget, it is it that fills it with taxes.
          2. The budget deficit of the Russian Federation is very small, with a huge gold and foreign exchange reserve and several special funds, from one of them they gave Ukraine a loan.
          Quote: Federal
          dangerous in openly hostile countries (Turkey)

          Turkey is a hostile country? Why do you think so? The Russian Federation and Turkey have close economic ties.
          Quote: Federal
          cat. needed in east D.

          It allocates so much money to the Far East of the Russian Federation, for this a special fund has a separate ministry.
          Quote: Federal
          Nechernozenme and hell knows where it is a fact

          Now I do not understand what you mean?
          Quote: Federal
          Is this GDP growth? Is it economic growth?

          Do you even understand what GDP is? Will it explain to you how the GDP is formed and how the budget of the Russian Federation is filled?
          1. Federal
            Federal 16 January 2014 13: 17
            0
            dear Don and relatives ... don’t push so hard about GDP, you don’t have one genius ....., I explain on fingers for semi-literate critics like you:

            1. For the construction of one Turkish nuclear power plant with four VVER-type reactors with reactors of 35 billion kWh per year, 10 billion are needed.

            SBI terms Build - Own - Operate or Build - Own - Operate

            2. ALL funding comes from the DEFICIENT budget of the Russian Federation. (Reserves say the corporate debt of system companies in Russia should you name ?? Reserves for that and reserves for a rainy day, the Turks are clearly not a rainy day for the Russian Federation ..)

            3. Who will prevent the Turks from halving the price of purchased energy under any pretext upon completion of the project? payback type 16 years, AHA ... 16 years, you have to shake and wait for a kidnick from the Turks .... About conflicts in the Caucasus, God forbid, I don’t say ... where will you put energy? Transfer the station? Will you fight because of a financial kidnap? To sue? with whom is Turkey a NATO member?

            4. Bangladesh need an example? How much rich Russia forgave debts to the Churkestans already? Forgot ... Well, read ...
            There the scheme with the nuclear power plant will be the same, NO MONEY they say, litter, also fight, will we bomb? To drown themselves and they will forget, the backward country they say they will say correctly? Correctly....

            5. What have I heard about Rosatom’s profit? 44 billion rubles? what is there? 1 billion euros? You tell the size of lending to Rosatom from a DEFICIT budget only for the construction of an atomic power plant in Turkey that is useless except for officials from Rosatom and the Turks of course? from 1 years, it costs $ 11–2 billion EVERY YEAR, plus the impoverished Bangladesh, beaten Belarus, naughty Hohland with its ambitions for a couple of reactors.
            80 reactors say? Let's immediately 800 and on the moon, but we’ll break in technology ... But there is oil ...

            This is called ECONOMIC IDIOTISM; there is no calculation or vision of a common polit. economy situations, politics and ambitions and the eagerness of Kireenko and company
            1. anarky
              anarky 16 January 2014 18: 25
              +1

              1. For the construction of one Turkish nuclear power plant with four VVER-type reactors with reactors of 35 billion kWh per year, 10 billion are needed.

              SBI terms Build - Own - Operate or Build - Own - Operate

              I am glad that you googled at last :) And did you google that the French, for example, offer the same thing?

              2. ALL funding comes from the DEFICIENT budget of the Russian Federation. (Reserves say the corporate debt of system companies in Russia should you name ?? Reserves for that and reserves for a rainy day, the Turks are clearly not a rainy day for the Russian Federation ..)

              That's what ass did not come, you need to make strategic investments, while there is loot.

              3. Who will prevent the Turks from halving the price of purchased energy under any pretext upon completion of the project? payback type 16 years, AHA ... 16 years, you have to shake and wait for a kidnick from the Turks .... About conflicts in the Caucasus, God forbid, I don’t say ... where will you put energy? Transfer the station? Will you fight because of a financial kidnap? To sue? with whom is Turkey a NATO member?

              You know the contract. Turkey is an emerging economy. She really needs electricity and a business image. If they don’t pay, they will remain without this and without the other. You probably don’t know that there are such countries where the development of the economy is in higher priority than throwing Russians;)

              4. Bangladesh need an example? How much rich Russia forgave debts to the Churkestans already? Forgot ... Well, read ...
              There the scheme with the nuclear power plant will be the same, NO MONEY they say, litter, also fight, will we bomb? To drown themselves and they will forget, the backward country they say they will say correctly? Correctly....

              The same story. A nuclear power plant will produce there 19% of all electricity. If they try na_at, they will remain a banana republic forever. There are no fools in Rosatom, if they invest, then there is a prospect. Across Southeast Asia, industrial growth is now.

              5. What have I heard about Rosatom’s profit? 44 billion rubles? what is there? 1 billion euros? You tell the size of lending to Rosatom from a DEFICIT budget only for the construction of an atomic power plant in Turkey that is useless except for officials from Rosatom and the Turks of course? from 1 years, it costs $ 11–2 billion EVERY YEAR, plus the impoverished Bangladesh, beaten Belarus, naughty Hohland with its ambitions for a couple of reactors.
              80 reactors say? Let's immediately 800 and on the moon, but we’ll break in technology ... But there is oil ...

              That's it! That is oil. And there is gas. And while there is - invest in technology. Tea is not a villa in the Canaries. and we are building reactors. In general, enough to count other people's money;)

              This is called ECONOMIC IDIOTISM; there is no calculation or vision of a common polit. economy situations, politics and ambitions and the eagerness of Kireenko and company

              And then the Federal came from Topvar and taught everyone how to live! If you are so smart, why are you so poor? (C)

              Threat so for clean development
              https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd
              & hl = ru & dl = ru & idim = country: BGD: PAK #! ctype = l & strail = false & bcs = d & nselm = h & met_y = ny_g
              dp_mktp_cd & scale_y = lin & ind_y = false & rdim = region & idim = country: BGD: UKR & ifdim = region
              & hl = ru & dl = ru & ind = false
              1. Federal
                Federal 16 January 2014 22: 36
                0
                Well, firstly, the Anarchist or the Antichrist, so they did not understand your English)) do not need to generalize about the poor .... I consider myself Russian, even with a Ukrainian. a passport, and I don’t think that it’s much poorer than you personally, I go for a cordon to rest 2 times a year in different parts of the world, therefore I know the mentality of the Arabs not bad ... They will throw or knock down the price to a minimum and pay off for another hundred years, and blackmail it will be ....... This is with inadequate Georgians and aisers at hand. France say ... Yes, everything is true, only one thing But France is a member of NATO and Europe, well, they won’t throw such people in large numbers, it’s not in terms of concept when Turkey itself climbs into Europe ... but Russia with the help of the USA or rather with their hitting easily, it is unlikely that such a lottery can be called successful, whoever does business will understand ....
                Secondly, about the general development, maybe a Ukrainian. and poorer, but we have such a plus that Russia does not have and never will have, plus which all your pluses overlap and put you Fat Mat ...
                That's right, this is a white population + the absence of a religion of peace except Crimea, and yes the most respected Islam, this is what I mean, and all to the fact that it’s easier to live with us and most importantly SAFETY, without Chechnya, Dagis, KBR and Tmumotorokan and terrorist attacks. This is so for general development, so there is no need to flaunt what you should be ashamed of
                1. anarky
                  anarky 16 January 2014 22: 59
                  +1
                  Well, in general, there are people in Ukraine who are much richer than me, but GDP per capita ...


                  They will throw or knock the price to a minimum and it will pay off for another hundred years, and they will blackmail it
                  And next time they will build nuclear power plants for themselves. And enter into other contracts with yourself. Turkey is already an independent country, no one will be tempting it. Yes, and why? Those who are engaged in business will understand that in a civilized developing country, a member of the UN and NATO, in need of energy, one can safely build nuclear power plants. The Cold War ended many years ago;)
                  And what is interesting they will power the network if we pull the switch?
                  That's right, this is a white population + the absence of a religion of peace except Crimea,

                  Well, I would not be very happy for a country that guest workers do not go to. Look, all kinds of migrant workers also do not go to Azerbaijan :) And what do I have from that white population? Most go_na Russia made white people. Actually the same EBN. Much more Russian. So leave your racial prejudices aside.
                  Oh yes, terrorist attacks are the biggest danger that lies in wait for a citizen of the Russian Federation, of course. Wherever you go, everywhere by martyr.
                  Dagestan and Chechnya are not the first century as part of Russia. And what? Yes, there are problems. But there were problems, and let’s say more seriously than the young man, and nothing. I didn’t understand why I should be so ashamed in my great thousand-year-old Motherland;)

                  P.S. Tmutarakan incidentally is pretty close in Ukraine;)
                  1. Federal
                    Federal 17 January 2014 01: 25
                    0
                    so the arguments began to fizzle out, comrade comes out unconvincingly, especially about the fact that the age of conflicts is gone ... And that we are passionate about the Turks ... "partners", etc. This is what I especially believe in, and especially to you, seriously how you can predict the future h. 20 30 years, especially in this brothel called the Caucasus, a mystery to me ...
                    They made fun of "the next time they will build themselves", but there will be no trace. times, you give them enough and once, but for half the country, and for 100 years ahead with modernization will work.

                    and forgive me what knife switch you will pull at whom?
                    maybe I reviewed adult channels? )) Yes, the nuclear power plant in Turkey is respected, physically, it’s they who will pull you, by the nose and drive for it, well, sort of like the main Chechen Putin)))
                    1. anarky
                      anarky 17 January 2014 02: 49
                      0
                      Everything is normal with arguments, tea is not vodka, it will not fizzle out;) From EBN I heard only "the roads of the Russians."

                      I particularly believe in this, and especially you, seriously how you can predict the future of 20-30 years, especially in this brothel called the Caucasus, it’s a mystery to me ....

                      For me, it’s a mystery when Turkey turned out to be the Caucasus. And to predict - it is necessary, where to go. It’s good that nothing depends on your distrust.

                      They made fun of "the next time they will build themselves", but there will be no trace. times, you give them enough and once, but for half the country, and for 100 years ahead with modernization will work.

                      You made fun of it. And they showed that you do not even know what nuclear power plants are in their complexity. And the IAEA will not approve of such interesting manipulations. Yes, and TVELs for VVER only do with us;)

                      and forgive me what knife switch you will pull at whom?

                      Well, they will not pay - they will not receive electricity. BOO, as it were.

                      maybe I reviewed adult channels? )))

                      Apparently yes

                      Yes, the nuclear power plant in Turkey is respected, physically, it’s they who will pull you, by the nose and drive for it, well, like as the main Chechen Putin)))

                      You yourself about BOO kippippasti. Read is not an option?)
                      1. Federal
                        Federal 17 January 2014 12: 41
                        0
                        what does the IAEA have to do with the internal pricing and sovereign economy of the Turks .... What does it have to do with where to buy non-Russian TVs, but everywhere, comrade, the holy place is empty, there would be a station,
                        what does geography have to do with if Turkey was and is one of the main suppliers of terrorist shit to your Chechnya and Dagh R a, you should at least read at your leisure for your horizons))
                      2. anarky
                        anarky 17 January 2014 14: 29
                        +1
                        The IAEA will not particularly like the privatization of the station;) Yes, and how do you even imagine it? Armed capture?

                        What does it mean where to buy non-Russian TVs, but everywhere, comrade, the holy place is empty, there would be a station,

                        Yeah, for one station with an incomprehensible legal status, someone will risk investing in the production of fuel rods. Money rules the world, not hatred of the Russians.

                        what does geography have to do with if Turkey was and is one of the main suppliers of terrorist shit to your Chechnya and Dagh R a, you should at least read at your leisure for your horizons))

                        Pruflinki to the Turks in Chechnya is it possible?
                        About the financing of the militants, something was in the press, here xs. It was a question of certain organizations from Turkey (and heaps of other countries) that transferred money. Whether they were covered by the government or not is not known. And since such a booze started, the Ukrainians in Chechnya were with beards. How so?;)
                        And most importantly, when the war has already died down and this sluggish CTO has begun, the attacks were carried out by immigrants from Chechnya / Dagestan.
                        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Террористические_акты,_сове


                        rshennye_v_Rossii enlighten on the national composition of terrorists.
                        And in general it is not entirely clear what you are trying to prove to me with this demagogy. Would you like to talk about the wrong spending of budget funds? Sochi. Che to go far then. But Russia now faces a task that has not been solved even by the Union. Diversify the economy. Otherwise, when oil / gas runs out / depreciates, we will find ourselves today's Ukraine, without a competitive industry and in debt. And with a bunch of lovers to saw. And we will no longer have a resource to develop something. And that means we will be left behind forever. That is why we are building reactors all over the world, making superjets, scoring all sorts of "patriots" on the rosy dreams of cooperation with Ukraine, throwing money into the dilapidated defense industry, and so on. Jo.pa will be hollow if it does not come out.
                        And by the way, regarding the defense industry, everything is much worse in this regard. Sawing like su.ki. Our at least give out a product.
                      3. Federal
                        Federal 18 January 2014 00: 30
                        -2
                        Can you read at all? what a defense industry, what a poor Ukraine, what does it all have to do, if you were crushed by arguments, just say so ... I’m saying that you can’t invest in potentially unfriendly and impoverished countries, the point is that it’s unclear and there’s nothing to agree with, Russia all Siberia D. East needs to be raised, there is no money, for a piece of iron to Kazan, and these Turks make gifts with a payback of 20-30 years, if I say demagogy, the Scoop has forgiven hundreds of billions black-faced on Mars ... Idiocy is forever especially in Russia with her messianic paranoia.
                      4. anarky
                        anarky 18 January 2014 01: 51
                        +2

                        Can you read at all? what a defense industry, what a poor Ukraine, what does it all have to do, if you were crushed by arguments, just say so ...

                        You had no arguments.

                        I say that in potentially unfriendly and impoverished countries you can’t invest, the point is that it’s unclear and what you don’t agree with

                        Everyone around is potentially unfriendly. And now what? Regarding the beggar - look at Turkey's GDP;)

                        in Russia all Siberia D. East must be raised, there is no money, for a piece of iron to Kazan, and these Turks make gifts with a payback of 20-30 years, if I say demagoguery, then Scoop forgave hundreds of billions of black-gray on Mars ...

                        It is necessary. Raise. The whole ministry is sweating. A lot of oil, enough for everything. I don’t see a problem.
                        About the USSR - politics, as it were.

                        The idiocy is eternal especially in Russia with its messianic paranoia.

                        In general, the country under the tricolor is called Russia.
                        And in fact that. Akkuyu JSC will receive 3,4 billion / year profit from the station at a cost of 9,6 euro cents kWh. This is 7 years from the date of commissioning (2020). That is, from 2027 to 2040 the budget will be ~ $ 3,4 billion per year of pure fat, from 2040 to 2060 - $ 2,7 billion (-20% to the Turks under the contract) and from 2060 to 2083 the station will bring less, because will earn its own disposal. The Turks have made rather stringent demands on this issue. Even if after 2040 the Turks revise the price (it is possible by the terms of the contract after 2040), then the station will produce pure fat. Stable. In a country with a GDP several times higher than the Ukrainian one;) As for purely financial risks, the Sinop NPP is encouraging. The French are not stupid either. On political risks - you have not argued.
      2. Don
        Don 20 January 2014 15: 56
        0
        Quote: Federal
        explain on fingers for semi-literate critics like you:

        laughing Judging by your comments, you are semi-literate and clearly not having an economic education.
        Quote: Federal
        1. For the construction of one Turkish nuclear power plant with four VVER-type reactors with reactors of 35 billion kWh per year, 10 billion are needed.

        And who told you that Rosatom pays for it? Turkish construction company Enka built the Donabass arena, but financed the construction of SCM.
        Quote: Federal
        ALL financing comes from the DEFICIENT budget of the Russian Federation.

        The budget of the Russian Federation is scarce only in the last two years, the deficit is not large and this is normal. Look at the budgets of EU countries. All budgets are in short supply there. Only the deficit is different for everyone.
        Quote: Federal
        You say reserves and corporate debt of system companies in Russia should you name ??

        I am well aware of it, only in the first place it is not big (compare with the corporate debt of the USA), and in the second, WHEN A CORPORATE DEBT TO THE STATE? These are different things. Read.
        Quote: Federal
        Stocks and supplies for a rainy day

        You very vaguely understand why a gold and foreign exchange reserve and funds are needed. Various funds of the Russian Federation just play an investment role, and the reserve at any time can be used to finance the balance of payments deficit, for interventions in foreign exchange markets that affect the exchange rate of the national currency, or for similar purposes. At the same time, 60% of assets are invested in securities (one third of them with maturities of less than a year and two thirds with maturities of more than a year), 24% are represented by foreign currency deposits and account balances, and 16% of foreign exchange reserves are repo transactions with maturities of up to 6 months. That is, direct profit.
        Quote: Federal
        Who will prevent the Turks from halving the price of purchased energy under any pretext upon the completion of the project?

        Contract
        Quote: Federal
        payback type 16 years

        Payback from the Turks for 16 years, this is not a problem for Rosatom. Rosatom under the contract receives money.
        Quote: Federal
        About conflicts in the Transcaucasus, God forbid, I don’t say war ... where will you put energy?

        What kind of energy? The nuclear power plant will belong to Turkey. Rosatom is only building it. What does the war in Transcaucasia have to do with it?
        1. Don
          Don 20 January 2014 16: 00
          0
          Quote: Federal
          To sue? with whom is Turkey a NATO member?

          You absolutely do not understand international standards. Despite the sanctions against Iran, an international court decided that the Russian Federation should supply the S-300 to Iran. But this is a military-political alliance; by no means does it belong to international norms.
          Quote: Federal
          Bangladesh need an example?

          A nuclear power plant is just being built there. Drop the link that they don’t pay for it.
          Quote: Federal
          Tell you the size of lending to Rosatom from a DEFICIENT budget

          E-May. Yes, and the Russian budget to Rosatom. Rosatom itself has money. And once again, most countries of the world have a limited budget.
          Quote: Federal
          44 billion rubles?

          Why are you so dismissive. Can you name the Ukrainian state corporation in which 1 billion euros of net profit?
          Quote: Federal
          nobody needed a nuclear power plant in Turkey except officials from Rosatom and the Turks themselves, of course?

          My God, you understand that Rosatom receives money from the Turks for it, and accordingly receives income from which, after deducting direct and indirect taxes (to the budget of the Russian Federation), it makes a net profit. And the net profit goes to the shareholder, and the shareholders are the state of the Russian Federation. And do not forget that Rosatom will also supply fuel there.
          Quote: Federal
          from 11 years it takes 2-3 billion dollars EVERY YEAR,

          What? Akkuyu NPPs are just designing. What are you grinding?
          Quote: Federal
          This is called ECONOMIC IDIOTISM; there is no calculation or vision of a common polit. economy situations, politics and ambitions and the eagerness of Kireenko and company

          This is called you do not think anything and do not want to understand in the economy.
          Any economic expert will say that a corporation receiving 1 billion euros of net profit per year is a very good indicator.
        2. Don
          Don 20 January 2014 16: 00
          0
          Quote: Federal
          To sue? with whom is Turkey a NATO member?

          You absolutely do not understand international standards. Despite the sanctions against Iran, an international court decided that the Russian Federation should supply the S-300 to Iran. But this is a military-political alliance; by no means does it belong to international norms.
          Quote: Federal
          Bangladesh need an example?

          A nuclear power plant is just being built there. Drop the link that they don’t pay for it.
          Quote: Federal
          Tell you the size of lending to Rosatom from a DEFICIENT budget

          E-May. Yes, and the Russian budget to Rosatom. Rosatom itself has money. And once again, most countries of the world have a limited budget.
          Quote: Federal
          44 billion rubles?

          Why are you so dismissive. Can you name the Ukrainian state corporation in which 1 billion euros of net profit?
          Quote: Federal
          nobody needed a nuclear power plant in Turkey except officials from Rosatom and the Turks themselves, of course?

          My God, you understand that Rosatom receives money from the Turks for it, and accordingly receives income from which, after deducting direct and indirect taxes (to the budget of the Russian Federation), it makes a net profit. And the net profit goes to the shareholder, and the shareholders are the state of the Russian Federation. And do not forget that Rosatom will also supply fuel there.
          Quote: Federal
          from 11 years it takes 2-3 billion dollars EVERY YEAR,

          What? Akkuyu NPPs are just designing. What are you grinding?
          Quote: Federal
          This is called ECONOMIC IDIOTISM; there is no calculation or vision of a common polit. economy situations, politics and ambitions and the eagerness of Kireenko and company

          This is called you do not think anything and do not want to understand in the economy.
          Any economic expert will say that a corporation receiving 1 billion euros of net profit per year is a very good indicator.
      3. Don
        Don 20 January 2014 15: 56
        0
        Quote: Federal
        explain on fingers for semi-literate critics like you:

        laughing Judging by your comments, you are semi-literate and clearly not having an economic education.
        Quote: Federal
        1. For the construction of one Turkish nuclear power plant with four VVER-type reactors with reactors of 35 billion kWh per year, 10 billion are needed.

        And who told you that Rosatom pays for it? Turkish construction company Enka built the Donabass arena, but financed the construction of SCM.
        Quote: Federal
        ALL financing comes from the DEFICIENT budget of the Russian Federation.

        The budget of the Russian Federation is scarce only in the last two years, the deficit is not large and this is normal. Look at the budgets of EU countries. All budgets are in short supply there. Only the deficit is different for everyone.
        Quote: Federal
        You say reserves and corporate debt of system companies in Russia should you name ??

        I am well aware of it, only in the first place it is not big (compare with the corporate debt of the USA), and in the second, WHEN A CORPORATE DEBT TO THE STATE? These are different things. Read.
        Quote: Federal
        Stocks and supplies for a rainy day

        You very vaguely understand why a gold and foreign exchange reserve and funds are needed. Various funds of the Russian Federation just play an investment role, and the reserve at any time can be used to finance the balance of payments deficit, for interventions in foreign exchange markets that affect the exchange rate of the national currency, or for similar purposes. At the same time, 60% of assets are invested in securities (one third of them with maturities of less than a year and two thirds with maturities of more than a year), 24% are represented by foreign currency deposits and account balances, and 16% of foreign exchange reserves are repo transactions with maturities of up to 6 months. That is, direct profit.
        Quote: Federal
        Who will prevent the Turks from halving the price of purchased energy under any pretext upon the completion of the project?

        Contract
        Quote: Federal
        payback type 16 years

        Payback from the Turks for 16 years, this is not a problem for Rosatom. Rosatom under the contract receives money.
        Quote: Federal
        About conflicts in the Transcaucasus, God forbid, I don’t say war ... where will you put energy?

        What kind of energy? The nuclear power plant will belong to Turkey. Rosatom is only building it. What does the war in Transcaucasia have to do with it?
  • zzz
    zzz 15 January 2014 12: 02
    0
    Quote: Federal
    Pu has one way out of crushing hohland and the sooner he understands this, the sooner his utopia about a new type of scoop will be realized, where Russia will again be a cash cow.


    Or maybe it would be better not to split up by force, but to hold a referendum? Who knows how best?
    1. dropout
      dropout 15 January 2014 12: 20
      +4
      Quote: zzz
      Or maybe it would be better not to split up by force, but to hold a referendum? Who knows how best?


      We can see better from the inside. The results of the referendum are difficult to predict. The twenty-year brainwashing has done its job. The young generation is zombified and not everyone can think adequately.
  • brutal true
    brutal true 15 January 2014 12: 37
    +1
    It’s really time to create triples. But just the opposite, for a streaming struggle with the instigators of the Euromaid.
  • predator.3
    predator.3 15 January 2014 12: 40
    +4
    It is better as Czechoslovakia peacefully divided into separate states (map attached.) And let them decide with whom to stay! yes
  • Isk1984
    Isk1984 15 January 2014 12: 47
    +12
    It’s too late to fight in Ukraine’s forums, You won’t convince anyone with a word, I’ve fought in such forums for the last three months, the level of hatred has gone up so much, it has poured so much on me, I have been sent to jail a lot, promised all the torments of hell, and so on, common sense will not work, my grandfather was right, he said in the 80s Bendera cannot be persuaded, he is stupid and stubborn, his arguments don’t work only with a stick that he fears and respects ... My conclusions can only be resolved by force, their fighters are brave and yell at the commies on gilyaku, from impunity, and their permissiveness, only having received on the head they to turn into their caches, the only way ...
  • Oh_ho_ho
    Oh_ho_ho 15 January 2014 13: 01
    +4
    Russia does not get involved (perceptibly) in the internal affairs of Ukraine and Belarus for four reasons (my opinion): 1st. With all the support of the majority of Russian citizens for Putin, his team clearly shows discord and even resistance (sabotage) to the implementation of the instructions and demands of the President, starting with Prime Minister Medvedev. I believe that Putin does not find it possible in this situation to provide a formal trump card to the opposition; 2nd. Explicit interference will cause a wave in the world with accusations of Russia-Putin in double standards, which Putin considers unacceptable in this situation; 3rd. In Ukraine (and Belarus) today there is no pro-Russian leader capable of coordinating the internal and external policies of the state; 4th and most important. In whatever direction in this situation Ukraine goes one-vector, which is natural both upon joining the EU and even the CU, a certain (in time and depth) decline in the economy and the standard of living of the population with all the ensuing consequences will inevitably follow. Putin outlines the consequences of joining the EU and the CU and the benefits of restoring cooperation with Russia and assistance from it in relation to imaginary "European values", using the example of "young members of the EU. - Choose yourself and be responsible for your decision."
    It is a pity that Russia is really losing the information war to the West in Ukraine and Belarus.
    1. General Ermolov
      General Ermolov 15 January 2014 13: 22
      +1
      Russia does not lose inf. war and war for survival
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 15 January 2014 13: 37
        +3
        Quote: General Ermolov
        Russia does not lose inf. war and war for survival

        Russia does not lose anything to anyone, it does not have worthy rivals except the Yankees, and they have a thin gut against Russia.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 15 January 2014 13: 34
      +2
      Quote: Oh_ho_ho
      Russia does not get involved (tangibly) in the internal affairs of Ukraine and Belarus for four reasons

      Russia does not get involved at all in the internal affairs of Ukraine for two reasons.
      1. Do not do good to people, you will not see from them and evil. For our good, rampage in our ribs.
      2. Not having drunk, not nursing, the enemy cannot be made.
      In 1939, the USSR did good, freed Western Ukrainians from the Polish yoke and saved it from German occupation, for which it received gangs of a vile nationalistic beast. It would be better if the Germans cut them out.
      1. Osyris
        Osyris 15 January 2014 16: 30
        -5
        In 1939, the USSR and Germany did such a "good" that half of the population of Western Ukraine disappeared somewhere. And it appeared in Siberia, in Kazakhstan and in some other "colorful" places. And as for Putin's "salvation" of Ukraine, then you need to look at things soberly, Putin gave Ukraine money from the Russian reserve (although in Russia half of the population barely makes ends meet and this money would help them a lot), because he is not stupid and understands that if Ukraine goes to the EU, Ukraine may not gain anything, then Russia will be in a real hole and will lose everything that can be lost !!!!!
        1. Don
          Don 15 January 2014 19: 52
          +2
          Quote: Osyris
          Putin gave Ukraine money from the Russian reserve (although half of the population in Russia is barely making ends meet, and this money would help them a lot)

          1. Do not grind nonsense about half the population.
          2. You, an incomprehensible genius of the economy, what do you propose to do with this money from the fund (and not the reserve) for the population? Hand them out?
        2. anarky
          anarky 16 January 2014 01: 10
          +1
          Well, let's say bluntly that not half, but somewhere 1/10 :), but the point is not that
          if Ukraine leaves for the EU, maybe Ukraine doesn’t win anything, Russia will end up in a real hole and lose everything that can be lost !!!!!

          Cheyta? You don’t have gas, except shale oil, too. Your industry is mm ... well, the BTR-4 in general. We have our own coal. Sevastopol is sorry to tears, of course ... but who knows what Dart-Pu bargained for 15 yards and gas :) I don’t want to breed srach here, but you clearly overestimate the role of Ukraine for Russia.
          1. Don
            Don 16 January 2014 11: 57
            0
            Quote: anarky
            Well, let's say bluntly that not half, but somewhere 1/10 :), but the point is not that
            if Ukraine leaves for the EU, maybe Ukraine doesn’t win anything, Russia will end up in a real hole and lose everything that can be lost !!!!!

            Cheyta? You don’t have gas, except shale oil, too. Your industry is mm ... well, the BTR-4 in general. We have our own coal. Sevastopol is sorry to tears, of course ... but who knows what Dart-Pu bargained for 15 yards and gas :) I don’t want to breed srach here, but you clearly overestimate the role of Ukraine for Russia.

            Exactly. For some reason, I also did not understand. What the Russian Federation will lose and with what fright. The man himself did not seem to understand what he wrote. But Ukraine will lose. First of all, a huge market for themselves selling their goods. And there are a lot of disadvantages from entry, especially for mechanical engineering.
    3. The comment was deleted.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 15 January 2014 13: 04
    +2
    yeah ... and retreat again, soon they will reach Moscow again.
    Is there really to be a complete separation of one people? will it really be so?
    something one pessimism in the head.
    And this is all against the background of some incomprehensible victories in Syria, Putin "bought" Ukraine from the EU, spent geese at the North Pole and other nonsense. but in fact, in geostrategic terms, it is a complete fiasco. You cannot call a victory what is actually a salvation of the situation ... and even then, temporary!
    how much endurance is needed so that, notwithstanding what is happening, not to launch the entire nuclear arsenal of these scum along with their slaves in the geyrop and in the Middle East !!!
  • Nevsky_ZU
    15 January 2014 13: 06
    +9
    First of all, in Eastern Ukraine, real Russian-language schools are needed, where there will be not only a Russian-language version of the textbook on the History of Ukraine, there it is simply written in Russian that Bandera is a hero, but also Russian History textbooks for parity. From the fact that children learn mathematics in Russian, they do not become Russian. In addition, it is necessary to conduct educational grants among students in Ukraine. In Russia, the army is now being reborn, why not allow the Ukrainian children, to begin with from the eastern regions to serve you, with the right to obtain citizenship. And housing benefits, in contrast to the Russian military itself, are distributed with a delay in years. Anyway, this is happiness for Ukrainians, they have already forgotten what an apartment is for serving the Motherland. In addition, there are several orders of exercise in the Russian army more than in the Ukrainian and more new equipment. Thus we will dilute together the Caucasian recruits.

    Why in the US military are foreigners for citizenship, but not in the Russian? Allow even the Slavs!
  • Oh_ho_ho
    Oh_ho_ho 15 January 2014 13: 14
    +2
    While Ukraine (and Belarus) plays on a West-East swing, it manages to milk both sides. This cannot go on indefinitely. It will end with default and economic bottom.
  • General Ermolov
    General Ermolov 15 January 2014 13: 20
    +2
    here you have words slip about Ukrainian fascists and nationalists
    but about Russian organizations of the same kind, not words
    I can say one thing: if Bandera comes to power, a big civil war will begin
    and there will be only one question, in the survival of the Russian population of Ukraine
    Yes, there are few Russian NS and nationalists, but we are ready to kill and die because of our ideals
    and Russia, as always, will silently stand aside and watch the Russian population of Ukraine being cut out
    as it was in Serbia and the Caucasus
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 15 January 2014 14: 16
      +2
      Quote: General Ermolov
      I can say one thing, if Bandera comes to power, a big civil war will start and there will be only one question, there are few Russian NA and nationalists in the survival of the Ukrainian population of Ukraine, but we are ready to kill and die because of their ideals, Russia will always be silent in to the side and watch how the Russian population of Ukraine is being cut out as it was in Serbia and the Caucasus

      Ukrainians are not small children, but independent adults, let them choose their own fate and cut their own sheep. Real men have things to do themselves, and not invite a neighbor.
      With what joy will Russia climb into the internal affairs of a sovereign state?
      Suppose Russia sent troops to Ukraine (like the USSR in Western Ukraine in 1939), crushed fascists, Bandera, nationalists, etc., to the nail.
      And what, Ukrainians will flood Russians with a tear of gratitude and will forever become friends of Russia?
      Yes, no hell like that, in Ukraine such an internecine massacre will begin that the Maidan will seem like a kindergarten walk into a puppet theater.
      Moreover, everyone will take up arms against the "Russian occupiers", and the Yankes and Euros will definitely fit in.
      There are children of lice in Ukraine who do not hesitate to call on foreigners, as the Central Council of the UPR in 1918 called on the Germans to occupy Ukraine.
  • Oh_ho_ho
    Oh_ho_ho 15 January 2014 13: 22
    +2
    Russia does not get involved (perceptibly) in the internal affairs of Ukraine and Belarus for four reasons (my opinion): 1st. With all the support of the majority of Russian citizens for Putin, his team clearly shows discord and even resistance (sabotage) to the implementation of the instructions and demands of the President, starting with Prime Minister Medvedev. I believe that Putin does not find it possible in this situation to provide a formal trump card to the opposition; 2nd. Explicit interference will cause a wave in the world with accusations of Russia-Putin in double standards, which Putin considers unacceptable in this situation; 3rd. In Ukraine (and Belarus) today there is no pro-Russian leader capable of coordinating the internal and external policies of the state; 4th and most important. In whatever direction in this situation Ukraine goes one-vector, which is natural both upon joining the EU and even the CU, a certain (in time and depth) decline in the economy and the standard of living of the population with all the ensuing consequences will inevitably follow. Putin outlines the consequences of joining the EU and the CU and the benefits of restoring cooperation with Russia and assistance from it in relation to imaginary "European values", using the example of "young members of the EU. - Choose yourself and be responsible for your decision."
    It is a pity that Russia is really losing the information war to the West in Ukraine and Belarus.
    1. xan
      xan 15 January 2014 16: 32
      +1
      Quote: Oh_ho_ho
      It is a pity that Russia is really losing the information war to the West in Ukraine and Belarus.

      Stop carrying garbage about the information war! In any case, Russia could not win the information war in Ukraine for a simple reason - any elite wants to be the first in the village, and is afraid to become the second in the city. And the main task is how to change the elite itself, not an easy one. And simple Ukrainians oriented toward Russia will not do anything, since only a pro-Russian politician who has just emerged will be consumed right away, which has been demonstrated several times. Russia needs to create conditions in Ukraine in which the emergence of a pro-Russian political force of a non-marginal nature is possible. And in the current situation, when Yanukovych is completely dependent on GDP, this is possible. My IMHO.
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 15 January 2014 13: 22
    +1
    Maidan activists threaten reprisals against the families of soldiers of the Berkut unit, some sites, for example, http://bandosam.net/berkut_list.html, threaten to start publishing personal data ... But this is yesterday’s news and flowers, not berries ...

    Ukrainian nationalists have a genetic predisposition to brutal reprisals against innocent people, especially women and children.
    Everything is clear with the filthy Euro Maidan, a wild beast, without a single constructive thought.
    I remember recently found a yushchenko who left only ruins from the Ukrainian economy.
    They will bring Ukraine the maidan to full mand ..., maydanut with the polar fox in addition.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 15 January 2014 13: 31
    +3
    Let's fall apart to hell and everyone who wants to Europe, let them roll into it. And Ukraine in the region and to the Southern and / or Central Federal District. AND NO MOVES.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 15 January 2014 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: E
    release people with a washed-out liberal consciousness and with faith in a fabulous Europe


    A penny will again ask Russia?
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 15 January 2014 14: 26
    +3
    in Ukraine there are no civil-political organizations "from below" that defend purely conservative values, such as "The Essence of Time", "Trade Union of Russian Citizens", etc., but there are many neoliberal and nationalist movements

    As you know, only the mice start up themselves. America purposefully invested in Ukraine 5 billion presidents killed in the creation and development of NGOs, politicians and parties, I don’t know how much Europe has invested, and now they have the power to carry out their interests. What, how much and where Russia has invested, I do not know, but as we see the pro-Russian organized forces in Ukraine there. Therefore, they invested either nothing or very little or not there. Now everyone is reaping what they deserve. Russia is likely to reap either anti-Russian Ukraine or a civil war on its border with the same result. Voila, you need to think before that. And for this, we need not strong managers and successful managers with Chubais, but special organizations where specially trained smart people are selected, who if they decide anything, they need to listen to their opinion. Then there will be fewer similar cities on the borders, and life will be easier.
  • Fastblast
    Fastblast 15 January 2014 14: 31
    +4
    Fuck you do not collapse!
    She is, Russia, from Xian to Don!
    So everything is still ahead, Russian lands will come together!

    But Russia could really help Ukraine if it had not given a loan to 15 Lard and had not lowered the price of gas!

    You are talking all about the European Maidan, but the matter is not in Europe or in Russia, but in the bandits in power!
  • zzz
    zzz 15 January 2014 14: 43
    +3
    But I still hope that Putin is preparing his candidate for the presidency in 2015 year (a Ukrainian citizen, naturally).
  • Nevsky_ZU
    15 January 2014 14: 47
    +1
    Quote: zzz
    But I still hope that Putin is preparing his candidate for the presidency in 2015 year (a Ukrainian citizen, naturally).


    If this will be Viktor Medvedchuk, then fly :(

    Yes, and Yanyka has ambitions, even though he is a political corpse, I hope Putin has enough brains not to support him.
  • Nevsky_ZU
    15 January 2014 14: 50
    -1
    Quote: Fastblast


    But Russia could really help Ukraine if it had not given a loan to 15 Lard and had not lowered the price of gas!

    !


    Do not give?

    It's like, wait for the revolt of the industrial Southeast of Ukraine, so that he dares all Galicians together with Yanukovych? wassat
    1. Fastblast
      Fastblast 15 January 2014 15: 06
      0
      Of course!

      Not certainly in that way.

      I would not have to wait a long time for the unification of the South-East of Ukraine with the Galicians in an effort to sweep Bandyukovich!
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        15 January 2014 15: 12
        0
        Quote: Fastblast
        Of course!

        Not certainly in that way.

        I would not have to wait a long time for the unification of the South-East of Ukraine with the Galicians in an effort to sweep Bandyukovich!


        Only with respect to the USSR and in the economic union with the Russian Federation. Then yes.

        You speak from Xiang to Don.

        And I, from Germany to Alaska, is the empire of the Rus. It’s not for nothing that the Chinese wall is dotted with loopholes to the South, and in Siberia and China there are a lot of burials of warriors of European appearance.

        Find the video: You are Russian in Lviv!
    2. The comment was deleted.
  • Mr.M
    Mr.M 15 January 2014 15: 21
    +3
    Hooked on the phrase about the corridor of shame and "Berkut".
    But isn’t it time to follow the Chinese example with Tiananmen? And the forces of the internal forces to rigidly disperse all this fascist pseudo-European rabble?
  • Fastblast
    Fastblast 15 January 2014 15: 29
    +1
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Quote: Fastblast
    Of course!

    Not certainly in that way.

    I would not have to wait a long time for the unification of the South-East of Ukraine with the Galicians in an effort to sweep Bandyukovich!


    Only with respect to the USSR and in the economic union with the Russian Federation. Then yes.

    You speak from Xiang to Don.

    And I, from Germany to Alaska, is the empire of the Rus. It’s not for nothing that the Chinese wall is dotted with loopholes to the South, and in Siberia and China there are a lot of burials of warriors of European appearance.

    Find the video: You are Russian in Lviv!


    But I will support! From Germany to Alaska!

    With the economic union, special problems may not arise, but with respect to the USSR ...
    Here it is necessary mutual apologies, I think. Only mutual forgiveness can close this topic once and for all.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      15 January 2014 15: 35
      0
      Quote: Fastblast
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Quote: Fastblast
      Of course!

      Not certainly in that way.

      I would not have to wait a long time for the unification of the South-East of Ukraine with the Galicians in an effort to sweep Bandyukovich!


      Only with respect to the USSR and in the economic union with the Russian Federation. Then yes.

      You speak from Xiang to Don.

      And I, from Germany to Alaska, is the empire of the Rus. It’s not for nothing that the Chinese wall is dotted with loopholes to the South, and in Siberia and China there are a lot of burials of warriors of European appearance.

      Find the video: You are Russian in Lviv!


      But I will support! From Germany to Alaska!

      With the economic union, special problems may not arise, but with respect to the USSR ...
      Here it is necessary mutual apologies, I think. Only mutual forgiveness can close this topic once and for all.


      But with this it will be difficult. In Russia, they believe that the line of the Trotskyists was to blame for the repression and the total civil war. And in Ukraine, all the councils are considered bad, even the late USSR 1937-1939, which gave education, science, technology, culture and work.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 15 January 2014 17: 45
        +2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        In Russia, it is believed that the Trotskyites who blamed the Russian people for the fire of the World Revolution were to blame for the repressions and total civil war, and Stalin stopped them only in 1937, and finally established himself in power in 1939. And in Ukraine, all the councils consider bad, even the late USSR of the 60-70 years, which gave education, science, technology, culture and work.

        In Russia they don’t think so. The Socialist-Revolutionaries are to blame for the civil war, having entered into an agreement with the Entente on the continuation of the war between Russia and Germany.
        The Socialist Revolutionaries in Moscow, Petrograd, Yaroslavl, Vladimir, etc. began simultaneously with the invasion of the interventionists in Murmansk, Arkhangelsk, Odessa, Sevastopol, etc.
        Until the 1991 of the year, the Soviets considered it bad in Lviv and its environs, but already in the 23 of the year mass propaganda was conducted in the Ukrainian media that Ukraine was a paradise country under the protection of a friendly German army. In 1920, the evil Russian Bolsheviks drove out the good Germans, soft fluffy Petliurists, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Social Democrats and Bundists of the Central Radovtsy, Unaerists, Skoropadites and other democrats and occupied Nenko.
        At the same time, they are silent that the overwhelming majority of the Bolsheviks were Ukrainian natives, Trotsky, Khrushchev, Ovseenko-Antonov, Schors, Voroshilov, Parkhomenko, etc. were Ukrainians. etc.
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 16 January 2014 01: 00
          0
          Quote: Corsair5912
          ... Trotsky was the Ukrainians ...


          Trotsky (aka Bronstein) - Ukrainian? wassat
          Is it possible, geographically, by place of birth!
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 16 January 2014 09: 33
            0
            Quote: Vasek
            Trotsky (aka Bronstein) - Ukrainian? Is it possible, geographically, by place of birth!

            Trotsky (Leyba Davidovich Bronshtein; on October 26 [November November 7] 1879; Yanovka village, Yelisavetgrad district, Kherson province) would be alive, he would be Ukrainian, no worse than Yulia Tymoshenko (Yuliya Volodimirіvna Timoshenko; last name is X. 27, Dnepropetrovsk, Father of Yulia Tymoshenko - Vladimir Abramovich Grigyan, his mother - Grigyan Maria Iosifovna, his father - Abram Kelmanovich Kapitelman, all typical Latvians)
          2. The comment was deleted.
      2. The comment was deleted.
  • Fastblast
    Fastblast 15 January 2014 15: 39
    +1
    Quote: Mr.M
    Hooked on the phrase about the corridor of shame and "Berkut".
    But isn’t it time to follow the Chinese example with Tiananmen? And the forces of the internal forces to rigidly disperse all this fascist pseudo-European rabble?

    Ku-ku foshizt! )))

    You should at least include your head if you know how to write.
    In Ukraine, the power scenario will not work, it will only aggravate the situation.
    On the Maidan, not only fascists, as you call them, but ordinary people.
  • zzz
    zzz 15 January 2014 15: 41
    +2
    Quote: Fastblast
    I would not have to wait a long time for the unification of the South-East of Ukraine with the Galicians in an effort to sweep Bandyukovich!


    And where then to put the desire of the Galicians to join European values? We, therefore, are so smart, we will sweep away Yanukovych with the hands of Southeastern Ukrainians, and then we will announce these morons from the East that they, it turns out, are already in Europe))))))))))
  • Fastblast
    Fastblast 15 January 2014 16: 16
    0
    When it comes to Europe
    You, as I understand it, want to say that the East of Ukraine does not want to go there. Well, let's say.
    But why then do they go to rallies of the Party of Regions and generally support Yanukovych if their program just clearly defines the movement to Europe !?
    Where is the logic?

    At the expense of sweeping hands, you are in vain, the Galicians do not do this.

    Quote: Nevsky_ZU


    But with this it will be difficult. In Russia, they believe that the line of the Trotskyists was to blame for the repression and the total civil war. And in Ukraine, all the councils are considered bad, even the late USSR 1937-1939, which gave education, science, technology, culture and work.

    I agree, it will be difficult.
    But something needs to be done with this anyway.
  • The comment was deleted.
  • vvpll
    vvpll 15 January 2014 16: 31
    +1
    Dear, if Russia didn't give a damn, they would let fraternal Ukraine into the EU to be devoured by Europe and wouldn't bother too much. They would not have provided financial assistance to billions of greens, would not have reduced gas prices, etc.

    Gas prices were reduced, a loan was given, a ton of loans was forgiven, Crimea was practically presented with x @ pa - what else?

    Quotation from the newspaper Izvestia Link: http: //izvestia.ru/news/544100
    "... Gazprom's fuel cost more than others in Macedonia ($ 564,3 per 1 cubic meters), Poland ($ 525,5), Bosnia ($ 515,2), the Czech Republic ($ 503,1) and Bulgaria ($ 501,0) . "
    "... In particular, this happened with gas prices for Ukraine. It is known that during the past year this country paid Gazprom at $ 416-432 per 1 cubic meters."
    "... The cheapest gas is supplied by Gazprom to Great Britain ($ 313,4 in January-June 2012)."

    And why the hell are we such Slav brothers?

    Russia is the essence of the London Raw Material Super-appendage. Soon Gazprom will bring you domestic prices for equal profit and will pay more for your gas than the British.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 15 January 2014 17: 57
      0
      Quote: vvpll
      ... In particular, this happened with gas prices for Ukraine. It is known that over the past year this country paid Gazprom at $ 416-432 per 1 cubic meters. m "
      "... The cheapest gas is supplied by Gazprom to Great Britain ($ 313,4 in January-June 2012)."

      And why the hell are we such Slav brothers?
      Russia is the essence of the London Raw Material Super-appendage. Soon Gazprom will bring you domestic prices for equal profit and will pay more for your gas than the British.

      Gazprom is not the Salvation Army and not the mother of Teresa, charity and alms are not included in its field of activity. Gas and gas transportation cost a lot of money. Who pays for transportation, for that the gas prices are lower, who does not pay for that higher.
      What does the Slavs and non-Slavs have to do with it?
      Something I never heard about friendly actions from Ukraine towards Russia.
      Prices for fleet parking in the Russian city of Sevastopol are constantly growing, prices for all the raw materials that Ukraine supplies to Russia are also higher than world prices.
  • Tamparu
    Tamparu 15 January 2014 17: 15
    +2
    ele1285

    Hamul
    What do you want Russia to do - send troops?

    Yes, we probably need to send troops. If we don’t defend our own, then who will hope for us? It's like leaving relatives in trouble. And with loans, Russia helps not only those who want to be with us, it helps all of them, including and Bandera. It is still not known how to cut the money.

    Forgive me for my, probably, stupid idea, but it is necessary to actively intervene in the problems in Ukraine, in the flesh before the introduction of troops. Otherwise, Yanukovych will lay Ukraine .... Grandmothers simply will not help here, unfortunately ... hi
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 15 January 2014 18: 10
      0
      Quote: TampaRU
      Forgive me for my, probably, stupid idea, but it is necessary to actively intervene in the problems in Ukraine, in the flesh before the introduction of troops. Otherwise, Yanukovych will lay Ukraine .... Grandmothers simply will not help here, unfortunately ...

      The USSR already introduced troops into western Ukraine in the 1939 year, the stink is still rushing from there.
      And today, all of Ukraine is western.
      Nah we need our bastards to kill our Russian guys from around the corner, as was the case after the war with Hitler in the 40-50-s?
      It is time for the Ukrainians themselves to restore order in their sovereign apartment. They wanted to get sovereignty, got it, use it for health.
      It’s another matter if Euros and Yankees climb into Ukraine.
  • Sashko07
    Sashko07 15 January 2014 17: 46
    +6
    Today my brother came from Kiev, he works for me in Berkut, they let me go home for 5 days. Says hamaseki and lesbians will not pass soldier . Their detachment was near the monument to Lenin when they smashed it — there were 30 of them against 300 fascists and several hundred civilians, out of 30 there were 20. Regrets about one thing that they didn’t give out military weapons ... Although, according to the charter, there must be a group behind the riots with military weapons, but as they say cp..naya democracy these are her mother. Says they are already beginning to bicker among themselves, not long they have left. He says that in the tinsel the maidan people got 10 years ahead, they just don’t show everything on TV)))) So the guys don’t stay away Ukraine wasn’t for sale, Ukraine still stands and will stand, and each fascist has its own bullet.
  • I think so
    I think so 15 January 2014 18: 03
    -3
    With such impotent power such as now in Russia, there is nothing to think about expanding Russia's influence on neighboring countries ... even inside the country they can do nothing about separatism and Russophobia (yes, it is within Russia that Russophobia is growing), and even more so outside. From time immemorial, Ukrainians could not stand Jews, and today's Russia ALL THE RICHEST AND INFLUENTIAL are from this "diaspora". And therefore, a Ukrainian will NEVER go into submission to the Jews and there is nothing to be done as soon as to arrange a purge in Russia ... but this is from the realm of fantasy.
  • Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 15 January 2014 19: 19
    +2
    materials to help those who are ready to fight on the information front for the preservation of the Russian world:
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 15 January 2014 22: 17
      +1
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      materials to help those who are ready to fight on the information front for the preservation of the Russian world:

      It is called "there were like three pigs wassat , bully , angry in the barn, the thought was thinking about what to do out of boredom, and they decided to make a euro - to make repairs in the human hut ".
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 16 January 2014 00: 30
        +1
        three gilt

      2. Vasek
        Vasek 16 January 2014 01: 10
        +1
        Quote: Victor-M
        This is called "like that three pigs were sitting, in the barn, the thought was thinking about what to do out of boredom, and they decided to make a euro - to make repairs in a human's hut".


        Well, the faces of all three! what
        And in the eyes - an overabundance of information and thoughts! wassat
  • homosum20
    homosum20 15 January 2014 20: 22
    +1
    We must end the maydauns. The disease called "the desire to live well and not work" (otherwise where did they get the time to hang around on Maydaun?) Is very contagious. Moreover, it is transmitted even without personal contact, through "proper education", the Internet, megalomania.
    Not treated.
    Otherwise, sooner or later, with the hands of such maydauns, the geyropa and America will end us.