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Europe as the second CIS?

After the Belovezhsk agreements the gloomy December 1991, the mighty USSR died and the bastard CIS was born instead of it. The European Union, into which some countries still strive (for example, Serbia or Ukraine), is now reeling from the wave of separatism, which other analysts and economists believe can lead to the collapse of the EU’s political and economic system, the destruction of the supranational government sovereigns ”- yes, about the one that once caused the decision of three politicians in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.

Europe as the second CIS?

At the hearing of the European public in the first place, Spain and the UK. The Basque Country is going to separate from the first, Scotland may fall away from the second in September (along with oil).

Bilbao, the administrative center of the Spanish province of Biscay, has recently withstood the one hundred thousandth march of the Basque separatist organization ETA (ETA, Euskadi Ta Askatasuna, Basque Country and Freedom). The marchers demanded a mitigation of the prison regime for their activists on camera. More than two years ago, ETA ceased tactics of systematic explosions and murders of officials and policemen, which lasted for forty years (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna was created in 1959-1962). This organization, which seeks the separation of the Basque Country from Spain and the creation of the state of Euskadi, is responsible for the death of more than eight hundred people, not to mention material damage.

Despite the fact that since the time of Franco, who banned the Basque language, the latter received the status of the state, and the province - the status of autonomy, local radicals demand secession from Spain.

The country and the Catalans are torn apart - they also have autonomy, but this is not enough for them.

They speak for independence in Andalusia, Valencia, Galicia, but not as actively as in the Basque Country or Catalonia.

What will be left of Spain if the local parade of sovereignties takes place? A rhetorical question. Madrid is very afraid that the first minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond, who speaks for the independence of his homeland, will give a bad prime to the Basques and Catalans, and therefore the Spanish authorities have officially announced that they will block the way of the independent Scotland in the EU.

Scotland is confidently walking along the curve (or straight, this is someone like) the path to independence in the forefront. You will not be frightened by Salmond with red tape when joining the EU and NATO, mobile banking roaming from Britain, failure of the Kingdom's mail to serve the Scots, or, finally, difficulties in ensuring security and creating your own regular army. Scotland has offshore oil, in the event of popping poles into wheels, Edinburgh will easily forgive the British for part of the joint public debt, and simply refuse the Scottish people from the Trident nuclear submarine base: they don’t need nuclear weapon. In the event of a victory in the referendum, Salmond intends to remove nuclear weapons from an independent territory and prohibit them constitutionally. Scotland will be declared a nuclear-free zone.

Six months ago, the first minister lucidly explained to the Scots, British and the whole world community that when independence was achieved his country would deviate 95% from UK oil and gas reserves - while observing the current practice of equidistance from the middle line (talking about the North Sea shelves).

In addition, from the point of view of propaganda, Salmond chose a suitable time for holding a referendum - September. The referendum will be held after the celebration of the 700 anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn (23-24 took place on June 1314 of the year and ended in complete defeat of England, and the forces of the parties were unequal: the Scots - 10000, the British - 25000. However, the numerical superiority of the English is disputed by historians). Undoubtedly, the celebration of the 700 anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn will generate a powerful wave of patriotic sentiment, against which the number of separatists could increase significantly.

The background of the Scottish independence speeches is not only national, but also economic. Every year a real gold stream flows into the London treasury - almost twenty billion pounds, and all this is just taxes from the sale of Scottish oil. Not Edinburgh, but London decides how to spend this money. Therefore, Salmond knows how to scare British politicians. And those, yes, are afraid.

It came to the point that D. Cameron began to seek help from ... Putin. Something quite extraordinary.

In the article "Cameron asked Putin to help him curb Salmond" ("Herald Scotland", UK; source of translation - "InoSMI") David Lisk and Paul Hatchen said that the government of David Cameron hopes for the support of the President of Russia in a dispute with Scotland about its withdrawal from the United Kingdom.

The authors recall that, according to ITAR-TASS, Britain is “extremely interested” in supporting Russia at the referendum on the independence of Scotland: after all, Moscow has taken the post of chairman of the Big Eight this year.

In response to reports of Cameron’s desire to enlist Russia's support, the first minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond, said: “These reports from Russia raise serious questions about the backstage games of the British government. If these messages correspond to reality, then it turns out that Westminster was caught red-handed, trying to stir up hostility towards Scotland, instead of representing the interests of the Scottish people. ”

Recently, journalists say, Cameron, apparently trying to improve relations with Putin. The author of the ITAR-TASS report focused on this very moment. London hopes to establish “special relations” with Moscow on the eve of the summit in Sochi. “We look forward to Russia's consultations at the G8 summit,” ITAR-TASS quoted the words of Cameron’s cabinet representative.

This summit will be attended by the leaders of France, the United States, Canada and Russia. All of them, correspondents write, have a negative attitude towards the independence of Scotland.

That's it.

And after Scotland, independence will be talked about in Northern Ireland and in Wales. However, they have been talking about this for a long time.

The political positions of the former “Great Britain” in the world will be seriously shaken.

And what about other EU countries? Well, for the time being no one except Cameron is asking for Putin’s help, but after all, no referendums have been appointed, except in Scotland. The Spanish government, arguing its position by the Constitution, is blocking questions about the independence of the Basques, the Catalans and anyone else. (By the way, in the last elections in the Basque Country, the Basque Nationalist Party won the majority of votes).

But in Belgium, the Flemish nationalists, after winning local elections in Flanders (autumn 2012), issued a natural ultimatum to the government, demanding that the country be turned into a confederation. The leader of the New Flemish Alliance party, Bart de Wever, who received an 38% vote in Antwerp and actually took control of the country's second largest economic center, said that the party "became the largest party in Flanders after the Second World War", which "received a vote of confidence Flemish to overcome the economic and political crisis. " The Flemish politician stressed that with French-speaking Wallonia as part of Belgium, he was not on the path: "We have two cultures and two democracies ... Our nationalism is not a goal, but a means of moving towards our own democracy in Flanders."

Bretons live in France in Brittany, and not the French at all. In Alsace, the party of the local “regionals” called “First of all, Alsace” advocates healthy nationalism, from which it is close to separatism. Even in relatively poor Corsica - and that is separatism.

But the real French blow to the EU will, of course, not Corsica. The knife has already brought the Marine Le Pen - that opposes the existence of the European Union, but goes with this slogan ... to the European Parliament.

Her parties - the “National Front” - are predicting a victory in the elections to the European Parliament this year. The rating of nationalists is higher than that of the French socialists. Against the background of the low rating of Hollande and his unpopular decisions, as well as against the background of the economic crisis, the National Front Party is confidently moving towards a political victory.

In the appendage, you can add that in Italy the north is traditionally dissatisfied with the south: there, they say, new Corleone is born and trades through racket, banditry and drug trafficking (by the way, Mario Puzo made up his character), and therefore Italy is better divided approximately in half. Sicily can even become an independent island, where the mafia will simply become a government, and much more efficient than the current one in Rome.

There are national separatist movements in other European countries. But what to say: dissatisfied are found even in Greenland.

Already a term has appeared: the Balkanization of Europe. Pointing some woe-politicians to historical An example of the split of Yugoslavia. This "Balkanization", according to the forecasts of some analysts, can start after the collapse of the specific principalities of Britain.

From all this it is clear that the EU may not fall into the countries of which it was formed, like a puzzle, initially. After a few years, the nationalist acceleration attributed to the processes of disintegration, for example, Scotland and the Spanish provinces, can lead to an amazing redrawing of the map of Western Europe. I remember the recent forecast of Patrick Buchanan, which we have already written about in “VO”: the European civilization is barely left to live until the end of this century. And indeed: even if we forget about the parade of sovereignties, then tolerance plus Islamization plus homosexuality plus an aging population threaten to inevitably turn the European Union and its state into pshik. That’s why ultra right parties that are against all of the above are popular in the EU.

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  1. makarov
    makarov 15 January 2014 08: 44
    "After the Belovezhskaya agreements on gloomy December 1991, the mighty USSR died and instead of it, the full-time CIS was born."

    Yes, the USSR did not die (!), He was killed by traitors seeking power! Some of them died in curses, and some unfortunately are still fattening.
    1. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 15 January 2014 12: 07
      Yes, the USSR did not die (!), He was killed by traitors seeking power ...

      ... under the direction and with the money of those who are already losing their ground ...
      MAYBLE MERRY HERE IS INappropriate, -
      1. AVV
        AVV 15 January 2014 16: 22
        Not only the Anglo-Saxons of the USSR will be ruined, even if they themselves feel in their own skin what decay is !!!
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 15 January 2014 09: 05
    Why did this topic arise?
    The standard of living began to fall.
    Let us have a minimum wage not like in Europe (9 bucks an hour, but only 27 rubles), the people there are so educated that it’s a little worse, immediately the government is resigned, the region should be separated.
    And we are silent in such cases.
    In no case do I urge you to go to the swamp, this will only make it worse, in fact, we just got up off our knees, and I believe that all the best is ahead, and the salary is 10 bucks an hour, too, but oh, how hard it will be To achieve this by crawling out from under the heels of liberals of the whole world and of all stripes (and, basically, in our country, they are the most harmful elements of counteraction to our development).
  3. poccinin
    poccinin 15 January 2014 09: 23
    Well, wait. England first crawled to RUSSIA who is next? how so. the president of RUSSIA is a tyrant. or isn’t there anymore?
  4. ZU-23
    ZU-23 15 January 2014 09: 54
    The Euro show continues, we would live like we lived in the old days.
  5. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 15 January 2014 10: 04
    В ... the summit will bring together the leaders of France, the USA, Canada and Russia. All of them, correspondents write, have a negative attitude towards Scotland's independence.- I think the correspondents are mistaken - Russia will not be against the acquisition of independence by Scotland. Only "for". yes
    1. liberty
      liberty 15 January 2014 14: 07
      In modern, and indeed in geopolitics a little versed.

      Although the idea that throughout the entire existence of Russia, England, which has done so many nasty things, can finally get what it deserves if Scotland separates, it pleases ..
      1. amigo1969
        amigo1969 15 January 2014 17: 21
        Maybe I Jesuit, but quietly rejoice when I hear news about Scotland !!!! This is them for the 1st World War and the Great Patriotic War ...
    2. demel2
      demel2 16 January 2014 05: 58
      Well, it's you for nothing, Russia cannot officially support separatism. There is enough of it.
  6. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 15 January 2014 12: 16
    Why should Russia be against Scotland's gaining independence? At least this is the business of the Scots themselves, not Russia, and even if "Putin is against", who is he for the Scots, but no one, an empty space, in the place of the Scots, I would put on the opinion some Putin has a huge reinforced concrete bolt, and besides, hasn't England recognized the sovereignty of Kosovo by cutting Serbia "alive"? So why is Scotland, "oppressed by the bloody British regime for centuries" worse? Well, about the CIS, call this organization ammorphous - this is extremely flattering to her, I understand several old worthless alcoholics gathered, "figured out" for three and as a result, the CIS was "born", why as any union it "died" almost immediately, Putin should have closed this shameful product of vodka intoxication 90 and do not make people laugh.
  7. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 15 January 2014 12: 28
    The British will not give the Scots independence. They will do everything, but they will NOT be admitted under any pretext. The British have not only oil there, but also bases of nuclear submarines, count, immediately with access to the Atlantic (and from there, via the Norwegian to the Barents Sea). Not guys, now the Anglicans are afraid of being known as tyrants, but if there is a real step from Scotland to secession, then everything will be at the level of suppressing the rebellion.
    By the way, I have a girl friend 3 years lived in the UK (confirmed her medical qualifications), she had a guy from Scotland. So she said this: Britons consider themselves high society, and cattle - a village, and the British cattle themselves do not like for extreme arrogance. And by the way, when she was in Scotland, she did not see ANY ARAB. Hindus were, but very few, and then worked on a par with the indigenous.

    But, in my opinion, the Scots, in the end, themselves are afraid to gain independence in real life: their business with the British is too tied up.
    1. Saksaul
      Saksaul 15 January 2014 14: 20
      According to opinion polls, in Scotland at the moment, independence is supported by a third of 40% of the population. In addition, support by the population for independence in a referendum does not at all mean that Scotland will automatically withdraw from the United Kingdom. The mechanism of such an exit is simply not spelled out in the local legislation. This can take a lot of time. And there, as they say, or donkey or padish ...
      In such a scenario, independence, if there is, it will not soon. Apparently, the talks about independence are more likely to be needed by the local nationalist in order to make London more accommodating in the possible mess about a "fairer" division of oil revenues.
      Although a poll is just a poll.
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  8. mountain
    mountain 15 January 2014 14: 32
    The events taking place in Europe cannot but rejoice, because they fought with us and ran into it themselves. That propaganda that was launched in the USSR. and now to Russia, it worked, rebounding. They will hardly succeed in collecting puzzles, there is no experience. Not that they have been doing all the time lately. What they sow, they will shake.
  9. Stasi
    Stasi 15 January 2014 14: 49
    Once Europe and England condemned in every possible way the establishment of order in the Caucasus by Russia, when the army smashed the bandits, the Westernizers screamed about human rights violations and the bandits themselves were called rebels and freedom fighters. The West provided them with material support, as well as moral support through the media and human rights activists. Now the Britons have come to bow to us, hoping for help. It is high time Russia, using its position in the GXNUMX, should, if not encourage separatism in Europe and England, then at least not hinder it. The West needs to pay back with the same coin that it does in relation to us, to recall its support for the Chechen fighters. I hope Putin will be able to do it.
  10. Kapitan Oleg
    Kapitan Oleg 15 January 2014 19: 19
    In fact, the British Empire is collapsing for a long time. Once the sun did not set over her, but now everything has returned to her native British home. And this house is rotten, staggering, because it was built by force of arms, oppression, and not voluntarily by the whole world. What is so surprising?
  11. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 15 January 2014 20: 00
    One can only welcome the peoples' desire for freedom and non-dependence.
    Each people west of the 25th degree of east longitude must build its own democracy with ... contrary to, in general, the imperial manners of the prison of nations of the European Union. We are for freedom in Europe and against European Union totalitarianism. If also the leadership of Russia thought and acted like that.
    1. T-12
      T-12 15 January 2014 21: 57
      You are not up to date on what is happening in the EU. I will not embellish, each society has its own advantages and disadvantages, this applies to the EU. Especially in the formation period, where no one has experience how to build such a large state.
      I want to remind some spiteful critics that the EU is a VOLUNTARY association of states on the basis of common values, history and future (so as not to fight each other anymore). The USSR, unlike the EU, kept on fear, as soon as they stopped being afraid of BUCH ... and there wasn’t. Problems that exist will be resolved for the better. A good example with Greece, in a referendum on withdrawal from the eurozone, 83% voted against withdrawal. Is this not an indicator of confidence ?! Yes, and the very appearance of the Euro, despite the massive US pressure that we have today ...., the second most important currency and 550 mil. population. But Saddam and Muammar received a war for abandoning the dollar.
      England with its problems do not interest us at all. If it finally falls apart, no one will cry, their filth is known everywhere in Europe.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 15 January 2014 22: 56
        I suggest Germany to join the Customs Union. Together we will resist the wiles of the Anglo-Saxons. Down with British imperialism.
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 16 January 2014 02: 39
          And French neocolonialism.
      2. demel2
        demel2 16 January 2014 06: 13
        Sorry, but something your common values ​​smack of blueness.
  12. alone
    alone 15 January 2014 20: 33
    living in a federal state, having problems with separatist terrorists and supporting other separatists is not amenable to logic.
    1. Fuzeler
      Fuzeler 15 January 2014 21: 13
      Naturally, you are right, but understand us Russians: how many of us have been taught that if any small people want to separate, then this should never be prevented; how many mud poured mud on our Russia for the same Caucasus, but in the end what? Our advisers themselves now do not understand what position. So the guys got sick. I don’t remember much that our media, the RUSSIAN media, talked about the Russian army in the years 94-96, as they exposed as heroes of all kinds of separatist bandits, and our soldiers as punishers and executioners, and our media then carried out the same propaganda as the media of the West. Only European and American journalists showed the Europeans us in such an eerie light, and our journalists, I don’t know, want to believe that by naivety and not money, showing our soldiers scoundrels, thereby saying that we, the rest of the Russians, are the same bastards from whom brutal men with green bandages came to liberate their homeland.

      And, dear Lonely, and whom, in fact, to support Russia there (in Britain)? There are no militants in Scotland, but, for example, the Irish Republican Army has rolled, sorry, in the UG. So do not exaggerate the power of the separatists of the British island))
  13. Arhj
    Arhj 15 January 2014 22: 10
    Europe has had a backlash with sentiment in the world about “We feed them, but they don’t do anything” and “the nation's right to self-determination.” How many countries have so ruined.
  14. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 15 January 2014 23: 24
    It would be interesting if, for example, the Basques declared independence, and China, India, Russia immediately recognized them. A howl would stand scary! wassat And we told them: "Guys, you yourself have created the Kosovo precedent, do not whine." repeat
    And Europa would grow with new members ... laughing
  15. NKR
    NKR 15 January 2014 23: 25
    We know why we are hiring, but I’m worried about something suddenly here again the Yankees indulge. And suddenly the export of separatism will reach Russia.
  16. Kunar
    Kunar 16 January 2014 07: 45
    Quote: chunga-changa
    I suggest Germany to join the Customs Union. Together we will resist the wiles of the Anglo-Saxons. Down with British imperialism.

    I’m supporting! And also Indians, Syrians and Turks ..... Then FSEM Tryndets))) So Khazin says. And, in my opinion, he is right