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Su-35 2013 built at the airport Dzemgi

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In the last days of 2013 and the first days of 2014, the reconstructed 23rd fighter aviation regiment of the 303rd mixed aviation 3 divisions of the 12rd command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia at the Dzemgi airfield (Khabarovsk Territory) received 35 serial Su-2013S fighters built as part of the XNUMX program at the Y.A. Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant Gagarin (Komsomolsk-on-Amur branch of OJSC "Company" Sukhoi ").


These aircraft were the first Su-35S, arrived in the front part of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia. These fighters were built under a contract dated August 2009 of the year with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the construction of X-NUMX Su-48C fighters. The first two aircraft built by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant under this contract (serial numbers 35-01 and 01-01 and corresponding tail numbers "02 red" and "01 red") were handed over to the "Dry" Ministry of Defense at the end of the year 02, two more (2011-01 and 03-01 serial numbers and the corresponding 04 red and 03 red onboard numbers) - at the beginning of 04 of the year, and finally six more (red onboard numbers of "2012", "06", "07", "08", "09" and "11") - December 12 28. All these ten aircraft are located in the 2012 State Flight Test Center (GLITS) in Akhtubinsk, of which the first five are used for State joint tests. Completion of State Joint Su-929C tests is expected only in 35 year.

Since December 2012, the transfers of Su-35 aircraft to the Russian Air Force have not been carried out for exactly a year, which indirectly confirmed the information on significant problems revealed during the State joint tests of this type. Now, however, the transfer of 12 built in 2013, Su-35С to Dzemgi has begun, which brings the total number of machines of this type built under the 2009 contract of the year to 22. In total, the 23 th aviation regiment in Dzemgi is believed to have received the 24 Su-35С fighter (now it is armed with the upgraded Su-27СМ fighter). From 1 December 2011 to 1 December 2013, the part at the Dzemgi airfield was called 5 th Fighter Aviation Group 6983 Guards Aviation Vitebsk Aviation Group of the Honor Legion of the Normandy-Neman base (Ian). in 6983-th mixed aviation division).

The Su-35C 2013 aircraft supplied to Dzemgi have a two-tone color scheme with a dark gray top and a blue bottom (similar to machines commissioned in December 2012 of the year) and the side numbers in red from "01" to "12" (the side numbers are still marked not on all cars). It is reported that now airplanes with airborne numbers from "05" to "09" are flying flights to Dzemgy.


Su-35C fighter (01413 serial number) built 2013 of the year, received as part of the reconstructed 23 th Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 3-th command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia at Dzemgi airfield. The aircraft does not yet carry onboard numbers. January 2014 of the year (c) mix / forums.airforce.ru





The new Su-35C fighters built 2013 of the year, received as part of the reconstituted 23 th Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 3-th command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia at Dzemgi airfield. January 2014 of the year (c) mix / forums.airforce.ru



Su-35C fighter (onboard number "07 red", serial number 0117) built 2013 of the year, entered into the reconstructed 23 th Fighter Regiment of the 3-th command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia at Dzemgi airfield. January 2014 of the year (c) White / Vadim / russianplanes.net
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  1. alex-kon
    alex-kon 13 January 2014 11: 51
    +35
    Great start to the year! good
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 13 January 2014 12: 10
      +19
      The main thing is to increase the pace of production, otherwise a few aircraft per year is a minuscule.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 13: 15
        +26
        ShturmKGB
        The main thing is to increase the pace of production, otherwise a few aircraft per year is a minuscule.

        UAC promises that everything will be OK.
        1. servant.
          servant. 13 January 2014 13: 21
          +6
          Well, of course, only everyone has different data on the number of aircraft delivered in the 2013 year. You have 143, and comrade Roman 1977- 75!
          Who is right? Or again 146%?
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 13 January 2014 13: 23
            +8
            Quote: serviceman.
            Well, of course, only everyone has different data on the number of aircraft delivered in the 2013 year. You have 143, and comrade Roman 1977- 75!
            Who is right? Or again 146%?


            The confusion arises due to the modernization of old models, and they are in this number.
            1. servant.
              servant. 13 January 2014 13: 26
              +10
              Quote: Lord of the Sith


              The confusion arises due to the modernization of old models, and they are in this number.

              But do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs .. New is new ....
            2. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 14: 05
              +11
              Quote: serviceman.
              Well, of course, only everyone has different data on the number of aircraft delivered in the 2013 year. You have 143, and comrade Roman 1977- 75!
              Who is right? Or again 146%?


              The KLA includes both civilian and military vehicles. There were 36 civilian aircraft; I don’t know the exact number of military aircraft. Approximately 77, and the tablet says about the plans that were sketched in the 2011 year.

              Here, by the way, is a table of set combat models
          2. Deniska
            Deniska 14 January 2014 11: 40
            0
            As I wrote above, there is also EXPORT!
        2. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 13 January 2014 13: 42
          -4
          And where is the schedule for passing pilots 2 and 1 qualifications? Will the aircraft fly into the air and solve problems? Who will perform the duties of unit commanders, deputy squadron commanders, squadron commanders, chiefs of staff, flight managers? Where is the schedule for their preparation?
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 14: 16
            +22
            Quote: gunnerminer
            And where is the pilot schedule for the 2 and 1 class qualifications?


            Well, provide what bothers you, you're not in a restaurant to demand a sanitary book.

            Quote: gunnerminer
            Will the machines themselves rise into the air and solve problems?

            Wow! You need to go to Moscow to work as a chief adviser !!! They don’t even know about it without you! Therefore, the flight hours are growing, they are already on par with amers)))
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 13 January 2014 14: 20
              -22%
              Wow! You need to go to Moscow to work as a chief adviser !!! They don’t even know about it without you! Therefore, the flight hours are growing, they are already on par with amers)))


              The clock is growing. The number of skilled pilots is growing much slower.
              1. Greyfox
                Greyfox 13 January 2014 14: 33
                +50
                For those who are not up to date. gunnerminer became very famous for his comments on bmpd. Caught on Russophobia and incompetence. Likes to speculate on the naval theme, thickly sprinkling posts with terms and abbreviations. At the same time, they are fired either on ignorance of the forms of admission to information constituting a state secret, then they begin to treat the pilot YES about the types of Tu-95. I talked about the unsettledness of the pilots at NITK in Yeisk, yellow stains on the mattresses of the sailors on the "Kuza", now about the toilets in Dzemgi. I saw everything personally, knows everyone by name. The last annealing-measurement of insulation resistance in volts. Admirals-generals to him in line for a report (judging by the information he is operating).
                Now, from far away, in France, she is sad about the routine of the flight personnel (its trademark expression). Only until yesterday, she vaguely imagined where this airdrome is located am
                And here she’s also going through combat training ... Do not take care of yourself, Gunya.
                1. Legioner
                  Legioner 13 January 2014 20: 21
                  -3
                  And, after all, gunnerminer is right, whoever would not think. Recall the story of what happened on the eve of the war. In the USSR there was a two-fold superiority in technology, and more precisely in tanks, and they were no worse than German ones, as a result of the events preceding the war, and not only that, commanders did not have command experience, but tankmen had experience or the ability to fight on the technique given to them. The result is known to all.
                  1. Greyfox
                    Greyfox 13 January 2014 20: 35
                    +4
                    Quote: Legioner
                    And, after all, gunnerminer is right, whoever would not think. Recall the story of what happened on the eve of the war. In the USSR there was a two-fold superiority in technology, and more precisely in tanks, and they were no worse than German ones, as a result of the events preceding the war, and not only that, commanders did not have command experience, but tankmen had experience or the ability to fight on the technique given to them. The result is known to all.

                    Yes, the famous expert Gunya is right. In general, a person who was a former naval officer of the middle arm, and now is a sailor of the merchant fleet (of the same middle arm) can calmly speak out on any subject (like everyone on the site). But at the same time, you should not impersonate a person whose opinion is the ultimate truth. Gunya is a typical Internet infusoria, inflated by conceit, now writing comments using free Wi-Fi in the French port. And if he says that with the flight crew on the Far East, it’s worthless luminescence. In general, you can search the bastard utterances of this man on bmpd.
                    1. Legioner
                      Legioner 13 January 2014 20: 48
                      0
                      I, for whatever, how disgusting the truth didn’t sound, but at least we would listen to it and be aware of it, and didn’t pretend to be "URA PATRIOTS".

                      PS: This is not criticism, but the desire that everyone would look for grain in another criticism, and correctly perceive it.
              2. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 14: 55
                +6
                Quote: gunnerminer
                The clock is growing. The number of skilled pilots is growing much slower.


                And who argues with this? Or did we have to postpone the GOZ, but deal only with pilots?

                The clock is growing - experience is gaining faster. Or are pilots trained only in classrooms?
              3. Defender
                Defender 13 January 2014 20: 26
                0
                Ours, if that’s enough, will wipe off with a paw, and the NATO will not arrange a strike on the lack of toilet paper soldier
                1. Legioner
                  Legioner 14 January 2014 13: 29
                  +1
                  And what to do in the winter?
            2. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 13 January 2014 14: 43
              -35%
              Well, provide what bothers you, you're not in a restaurant to demand a sanitary book.



              Displaying charts with delivered airplanes is one-sided information, only arithmetic indicators. Like milk yield per capita.
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 14: 56
                +10
                Quote: gunnerminer
                Displaying charts with delivered airplanes is one-sided information, only arithmetic indicators. Like milk yield per capita.


                Ask leading questions, without even knowing the approximate answers - what is it called?
            3. alone
              alone 13 January 2014 22: 26
              +1
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              They don’t even know about it without you! Therefore, the flight hours are growing, they are already on par with amers)))

              wink Well, this is because the Americans have reduced the number of flight hours))
          2. mivmim
            mivmim 13 January 2014 16: 19
            +3
            That damn shame for the success of the country that you abandoned?
        3. Civil
          Civil 13 January 2014 16: 10
          0
          there is such data
        4. Deniska
          Deniska 14 January 2014 11: 39
          +1
          God grant. 229 is already an encouraging figure. The question is how many of them will go to the Russian Air Force.?!
  2. Sirs
    Sirs 13 January 2014 11: 52
    +12
    Handsome.
    Everything will be fine)))
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 13 January 2014 12: 07
      +25
      In principle, everyone is doing well slowly, but there are problems and they need to be addressed

      what say

      problems with radar Irbis

      -with avionics - due to the fact that the military is constantly reviewing the requirements and has to rewrite the software, and the motor is still not reliable enough and a couple of pieces are completely out of order and sent to the bulkhead

      "The completion of the State joint tests of the Su-35S is expected only in 2015"so what else work and work

      In the meantime, the most advanced and debugged machine is the SU-30SM (and export versions of the production of IRKUT) - indeed one of the best aircraft of the 4th generation — in terms of capabilities and quality — a rarity nowadays
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 13 January 2014 13: 03
        -30%
        There are cars, there are not enough pilots with qualifications of at least class 2. There are no senior command personnel to manage squadrons in modern air combat.
        1. PLO
          PLO 13 January 2014 13: 21
          +16
          as well as toilets of the 3rd class are not enough ..
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 13 January 2014 13: 39
            -14%
            Quote: olp
            as well as toilets of the 3rd class are not enough ..




            A neglect of the domestic needs of the Russian Air Force’s flight and handling personnel does not increase the combat readiness of the Air Force. Pilots should be healthy, not sick, especially ENT diseases. Otherwise, they will not be allowed to fly. a worker from a nearby aircraft factory.
            1. PLO
              PLO 13 January 2014 13: 51
              +6
              +100
              I agree. It is necessary to improve the infrastructure of the Primorsky Territory.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 14 January 2014 03: 01
                +3
                Komsomolsk-on-Amur is located in the Khabarovsk Territory.
                1. PLO
                  PLO 14 January 2014 04: 06
                  +7
                  one of the best 9 submariners comrade gunnerminer Dzemgi recently moved to Primorsky Krai, so you are unfortunately wrong
                2. Greyfox
                  Greyfox 14 January 2014 16: 31
                  +5
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Komsomolsk-on-Amur is located in the Khabarovsk Territory.

                  Just about this Gunya did not know (what they poke into his eyes). In general, he saw the absence of toilets on a flight aboard a merchant ship at one of the ports in France, as well as problems with the flight crew. And also much more. Now we are trying to take off the mask from this foreign megaexpert, otherwise he, using the halo of mystery, carries all the mujn, and people are being waged.
            2. Berxen
              Berxen 13 January 2014 18: 53
              +5
              The pilot of the military unit can’t go to the workshop’s toilet because the start of the military unit as the start of the military is located in a completely different place. The combatant pilots have no access to the plant territory, and vice versa - it seemed to me that this was obvious. In the premises of the military unit, where the combat pilots serve, there is of course a toilet.
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 13 January 2014 22: 45
                0
                Quote: BerXen
                In the premises of the military unit, where the combat pilots serve, there is of course a toilet.

                The premises of the military unit are too strong, of course, but at the "skyscraper" (maybe it's called differently everywhere) there is a toilet, a shower, and even a bathtub. True, it was in the air force of another country.
                1. Berxen
                  Berxen 14 January 2014 00: 03
                  +1
                  I understand the toilet should be put on the executive? I don’t know where the pilots on duty are located - not a military pilot, but I’m sure that the toilet is there.
            3. standby
              standby 20 January 2014 10: 40
              0
              Problems of life and health are a matter of your concern, but not of competence. Let me solve the problems of providing specialized specialists and do not litter the site with unwise thoughts! Your ideas about the life of pilots of the Turkish Air Force are of little interest here ...
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 January 2014 16: 30
                0
                Quote: Standby
                Problems of life and health are a matter of your concern, but not of competence. Let me solve the problems of providing specialized specialists and do not litter the site with unwise thoughts! Your ideas about the life of pilots of the Turkish Air Force are of little interest here ...



                Specialists, as you can see, do not solve everyday issues of the Air Force, and in this case, too, for five years. Turkish pilots are provided with everything necessary for normal service and combat training. For all blog commentators you are not a defendant.
          2. Greyfox
            Greyfox 13 January 2014 13: 40
            +16
            To gunnerminer
            What Gunya, you already here inspection of toilets with bmpd hiccuped? Your glory runs ahead of you. You there in France inspect the construction of the Mistral, give TsU, a rivet where you need to put aka Tsar Peter. In general, take part ...
            1. PLO
              PLO 13 January 2014 13: 54
              +10
              chickens am
              more respect for one of the 9 best submariners.
            2. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 13 January 2014 14: 01
              -28%
              Quote: Greyfox
              To gunnerminer
              What Gunya, you already here inspection of toilets with bmpd hiccuped? Your glory runs ahead of you. You there in France inspect the construction of the Mistral, give TsU, a rivet where you need to put aka Tsar Peter. In general, take part ...



              Here I have other tasks. More important than Mistral, useless suitcases without a handle for the Russian Navy. Let the bear put rivets.
              1. politruk419
                politruk419 13 January 2014 14: 20
                +8
                Shhhhh! Dragging in intelligence! Do not shoot ...
                1. iSpoiler
                  iSpoiler 19 January 2014 15: 50
                  0
                  The corresponding nickname is some kind of homominer))
              2. PLO
                PLO 13 January 2014 14: 46
                +5
                +100
                take better toilets.
              3. evil hamster
                evil hamster 13 January 2014 15: 45
                +7
                The main thing here is to understand whether yellow stains remain on French mattresses, this is the main secret.
            3. Greyfox
              Greyfox 13 January 2014 14: 08
              +13
              For those who are not up to date. gunnerminer became very famous for his comments on bmpd. Caught on Russophobia and incompetence. Likes to speculate on the naval theme, thickly sprinkling posts with terms and abbreviations. At the same time, they are fired either on ignorance of the forms of admission to information constituting a state secret, then they begin to treat the pilot YES about the types of Tu-95. I talked about the unsettledness of the pilots at NITK in Yeisk, yellow stains on the mattresses of the sailors on the "Kuza", now about the toilets in Dzemgi. I saw everything personally, knows everyone by name. The last annealing-measurement of insulation resistance in volts. Admirals-generals to him in line for a report (judging by the information he is operating).
              Now, from the French far, she’s sad about the routine of the flight personnel (its trademark expression). Until yesterday, only vaguely imagined where this airdrome is located. am
              PS What is your life, you dog stinking ....
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 14: 19
                +6
                Quote: Greyfox
                The gunnerminer character became very famous thanks to his comments on bmpd. He was fond of Russophobia and incompetence.


                Funny written)))) five plus.
              2. PANZER
                PANZER 14 January 2014 06: 29
                +2
                Hmm, an anxious citizen)))
        2. Rink
          Rink 13 January 2014 15: 32
          +12
          There are cars, there are not enough pilots with qualifications of at least class 2. There are no senior command personnel to manage squadrons in modern air combat.

          Stop moaning already, maybe?
          If the Air Force first trained the pilots (what else?), You would have cried that there are no modern fighters under them. And if at first the planes - then again everything is not right for you.
          Do not worry, we will have everything: both airplanes and pilots. Schedules are made up who should be taken care of, and it is not up to you to control them.

          You can be sure that by the right moment our Air Force will be all right. Perhaps this will not please your Air Force, but here it’s sorry: your shirt is closer to our body.
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 13 January 2014 15: 38
            -21%
            You can be sure that by the right moment our Air Force will be all right. Perhaps this will not please your Air Force, but here it’s sorry: your shirt is closer to our body.


            The moment has already arrived. The sharing of Arctic hydrocarbons and fish resources did not start yesterday. The situation in Afghanistan is heating up the situation in Kazakhstan, especially in the areas adjacent to the Southern Urals. Due to the lack of sufficient mobilization resources, primarily human resources, some of the containment tasks could be solved air strikes. In addition, aerial reconnaissance is essential for the consistency and reliability of intelligence for headquarters formations and associations. By the right time it will be too late.
            1. Don
              Don 13 January 2014 18: 19
              +4
              laughing
              Quote: gunnerminer
              The division of Arctic hydrocarbons and fish resources did not begin yesterday.

              So what is war tomorrow?
              Quote: gunnerminer
              The situation in Afghanistan is heating up the situation in Kazakhstan, especially in the regions adjacent to the Southern Urals.

              Well, without the aircraft of generation 4+ and 5th, of course we can’t cope with the Taliban and Al Qaeda, they have such powerful air forces. laughing
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Due to the lack of sufficient mobilization resources, primarily human resources, some of the containment tasks could be solved by airstrikes

              Of course, human resources are not enough, the Taliban has a huge army. How many millions do not tell me, otherwise I do not know?
              Quote: gunnerminer
              In addition, aerial reconnaissance is essential for the constancy and reliability of intelligence for headquarters formations and associations.

              E-May. And aerial reconnaissance for possible clashes in Central Asia? What is no UAV or reconnaissance aircraft?
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 13 January 2014 20: 17
                -10%
                The war will not begin tomorrow. At any time convenient for the attacker. During the Afghan war of 1979-1989, the Mujahideen demonstrated how to organize air defense without the presence of the Air Force. There is no need for the Taliban to relocate outside Afghanistan. The resources will be local. Weapons and ammunition, logistics support is local The combat control of the Taliban worked out perfectly, the coalition and the Soviet Army experienced this quality of combat control.
                1. Berxen
                  Berxen 14 January 2014 00: 05
                  +2
                  During the Afghan war of 1979-1989, Mujahideen demonstrated how to organize air defense, without the presence of the Air Force


                  And a bunch of free stingers carefully set by the CIA didn’t help.
                2. JIaIIoTb
                  JIaIIoTb 14 January 2014 00: 07
                  +1
                  Dear you have not looked at a psychiatrist for a long time?
                  Come he will fill you with delicious tablets and put on a robe backwards.
                  You are really not quite healthy.
                  Py.Sy. This is not to this koment of this Tovarisch. But in general to everything that he writes.
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                4. Stalker
                  Stalker 14 January 2014 02: 52
                  0
                  Who is this ?? Reporter from ward number 6 ??? fool
                5. Don
                  Don 14 January 2014 14: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  At any time convenient for the attacker.

                  So who is this, the so-called offensive side, and at what convenient time?
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  During the Afghan war of 1979-1989, Mujahideen demonstrated how to organize air defense

                  A huge amount of MANPADS was delivered to the Mujahideen, who will supply it? Where will they get them? In addition, MANPADS are effective only against helicopters and attack aircraft and no MANPADS will not allow to cope in the Air Force of the CSTO countries.
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Mobile resources will be local. Weapons and ammunition, logistics support local.

                  How easy it is for you. So why were your superbly trained mujahideen not able to win the civil war in Tajikistan in the early 90's, having rear areas in Afghanistan and local resources? Why have they still not begun active action? Do not be shy, explain, otherwise they have a direct sabotage special unit that for some reason does nothing.
                6. Don
                  Don 14 January 2014 14: 57
                  0
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  At any time convenient for the attacker.

                  So who is this, the so-called offensive side, and at what convenient time?
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  During the Afghan war of 1979-1989, Mujahideen demonstrated how to organize air defense

                  A huge amount of MANPADS was delivered to the Mujahideen, who will supply it? Where will they get them? In addition, MANPADS are effective only against helicopters and attack aircraft and no MANPADS will not allow to cope in the Air Force of the CSTO countries.
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Mobile resources will be local. Weapons and ammunition, logistics support local.

                  How easy it is for you. So why were your superbly trained mujahideen not able to win the civil war in Tajikistan in the early 90's, having rear areas in Afghanistan and local resources? Why have they still not begun active action? Do not be shy, explain, otherwise they have a direct sabotage special unit that for some reason does nothing.
            2. Don
              Don 13 January 2014 18: 19
              +1
              laughing
              Quote: gunnerminer
              The division of Arctic hydrocarbons and fish resources did not begin yesterday.

              So what is war tomorrow?
              Quote: gunnerminer
              The situation in Afghanistan is heating up the situation in Kazakhstan, especially in the regions adjacent to the Southern Urals.

              Well, without the aircraft of generation 4+ and 5th, of course we can’t cope with the Taliban and Al Qaeda, they have such powerful air forces. laughing
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Due to the lack of sufficient mobilization resources, primarily human resources, some of the containment tasks could be solved by airstrikes

              Of course, human resources are not enough, the Taliban has a huge army. How many millions do not tell me, otherwise I do not know?
              Quote: gunnerminer
              In addition, aerial reconnaissance is essential for the constancy and reliability of intelligence for headquarters formations and associations.

              E-May. And aerial reconnaissance for possible clashes in Central Asia? What is no UAV or reconnaissance aircraft?
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 13 January 2014 21: 03
                -4
                The war will not begin tomorrow. At any time convenient for the attacker. During the Afghan war of 1979-1989, the Mujahideen demonstrated how to organize air defense without the presence of the Air Force. There is no need for the Taliban to relocate outside Afghanistan. The resources will be local. Weapons and ammunition, logistics support is local The combat control of the Taliban worked out perfectly, the coalition and the Soviet Army experienced this quality of combat control.
          2. 120352
            120352 13 January 2014 17: 37
            -4
            Of course, shapkozakidatelstvo creates a more cheerful mood for some than a sane analysis of training and professional development. But it just so happens that a pilot cannot be trained if he does not fly. And there is almost nothing to fly! Everything that is produced is almost entirely sold by the so-called. "partners", which 10 years ago, when there were still pilots, were called "foe". 12 aircraft is better than none, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to cover the entire sky of the Far East with them, especially since the pilots learned more and more on simulators. So, you don't have to moan, but the equipment of our aviation will not get better!
            1. Don
              Don 13 January 2014 18: 26
              +3
              Quote: 120352
              But it so happens that it is impossible to prepare a pilot if he does not fly.

              So they fly. Only recently on this site was information on the number of hours and why then are the Yak-130s being built ?!
              Quote: 120352
              And there’s almost nothing to fly on!

              You list the number of aircraft 4+ and 4th generation, or yourself, something to read?
              Quote: 120352
              Everything that is produced is almost entirely sold by the so-called. "partners", which 10 years ago, when there were still pilots, were called "foe".

              What reality do you live in? What partners and adversaries? Are you talking about whom and what were they selling?
              Quote: 120352
              12 aircraft is better than not one, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to cover the entire sky of the Far East, especially since the pilots learned more and more on simulators.

              Again some nonsense. Firstly, they cover not only the Air Force, but also the air defense forces, and secondly, again, your complete ignorance and not knowing the number of air forces on the USC East.
              Quote: 120352
              So, you can not moan, but the equipment of our aircraft will not get better!

              So it’s already better, and you all groan.
              1. Rink
                Rink 13 January 2014 21: 52
                +6
                Quote: Don
                ... So it’s already better, and you all groan.

                This is why they moan, because it is "better."
                When everything was falling apart by the Gorbachevs and the Yeltsins, they grinned and rubbed their hands contentedly, and no one then moaned about the decline in our combat readiness. Because that was, in their understanding, "good".
                Gorbachev they have generally the best politician, Yeltsin is also in general a role model ...
                But they do not like Putin: under Putin, Russia began to revive and regain its position. She regained technological leadership in the submarine fleet, built the best fighters on the planet ... Air defense is being re-equipped with the best systems in the world, Strategic Missile Forces receive new missiles.
                Why not moan here ?!
                Bad Putin, everything in Russia is now bad !!! The movement is not going where all these gentlemen would like so much! They understand that Russia will soon ask and will repay their deeds ...
                So they sprinkle with saliva, while the hardeners themselves are shaking.
                1. Don
                  Don 14 January 2014 13: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: Skating rink
                  But they do not like Putin: under Putin, Russia began to revive and regain its position. She regained technological leadership in the submarine fleet, built the best fighters on the planet ... Air defense is being re-equipped with the best systems in the world, Strategic Missile Forces receive new missiles.

                  I remember how in 2011, before the start of the rearmament program, how many people spit on the keyboard here, that all this is empty talk, that Putin is just sick and will not do anything, that a couple of planes will be accepted into service and that’s all. 3 years have passed. The rearmament program is gaining momentum. They took not a couple of planes, but 135 generations of 4+ and 4 ++. Now they are shouting that this is a trifle and they say that we produce little, and they do not know how many should be produced per year. You begin to give an example of other states and how many 4+ generation aircraft they built and over how many years, they begin to shout that these are all old and old Soviet achievements. You explain to them that all the countries of the world are not building anything from scratch, but they are using the old ideas and it would be foolish not to use them. You begin to explain that compare the performance characteristics of new aircraft of the Russian Federation and performance characteristics, for example, new US aircraft and that this is not junk. They again scream that they will not do anything, and so they released a little.
                  In general, they get a vicious circle. The same applies to the fleet, air defense, strategic missile forces.
                  Only the blind cannot see a shift for the better. 5 years ago they could not even dream about it.
            2. Don
              Don 13 January 2014 18: 26
              0
              Quote: 120352
              But it so happens that it is impossible to prepare a pilot if he does not fly.

              So they fly. Only recently on this site was information on the number of hours and why then are the Yak-130s being built ?!
              Quote: 120352
              And there’s almost nothing to fly on!

              You list the number of aircraft 4+ and 4th generation, or yourself, something to read?
              Quote: 120352
              Everything that is produced is almost entirely sold by the so-called. "partners", which 10 years ago, when there were still pilots, were called "foe".

              What reality do you live in? What partners and adversaries? Are you talking about whom and what were they selling?
              Quote: 120352
              12 aircraft is better than not one, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to cover the entire sky of the Far East, especially since the pilots learned more and more on simulators.

              Again some nonsense. Firstly, they cover not only the Air Force, but also the air defense forces, and secondly, again, your complete ignorance and not knowing the number of air forces on the USC East.
              Quote: 120352
              So, you can not moan, but the equipment of our aircraft will not get better!

              So it’s already better, and you all groan.
            3. Su24
              Su24 13 January 2014 19: 52
              +1
              Quote: 120352
              Of course, shapkozakidatelstvo creates a more cheerful mood for some than a sane analysis of training and professional development. But it just so happens that a pilot cannot be trained if he does not fly. And there is almost nothing to fly! Everything that is produced is almost entirely sold by the so-called. "partners", which 10 years ago, when there were still pilots, were called "foe". 12 aircraft is better than none, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to cover the entire sky of the Far East with them, especially since the pilots learned more and more on simulators. So, you don't have to moan, but the equipment of our aviation will not get better!


              Why write this? What a nagging thing? Which adversary are we selling planes for? USA?
            4. JIaIIoTb
              JIaIIoTb 14 January 2014 00: 26
              +4
              According to a study by the Australian analytical center Air Power Australia, published in February 2009, the level of Russian air defense systems reached a level at which the possibility of survival of US military aviation is excluded during an armed conflict.

              http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D

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              1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0

              %B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8
        3. Sirs
          Sirs 14 January 2014 06: 13
          0
          that the truth is the truth for it +
      2. Don
        Don 13 January 2014 18: 13
        0
        Quote: Rustam
        problems with radar irbis

        And what are the problems with the Irbis radar?
      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist 13 January 2014 21: 47
        0
        Quote: Rustam
        In the meantime, the most advanced and debugged machine is SU-30СМ (and export versions of IRKUT production) - it is really one of the best 4 generation aircraft


        Yes, during the firing, the Su-30СМ hit 77 with a missile at 100 km., And the Su-35 could not go further than 80. The highest commission of the Moscow Region came out of the situation simply by banning launches from Su-30СМ to a range higher than 80 km. wassat The ingenious decision!
        So Su-35 still has to refine a lot, until it reaches the level.
        And by the way, where did you divide SU-34? Really a very worthy aircraft, and the latest series have been improved perfectly.
        1. PLO
          PLO 13 January 2014 21: 49
          0
          you do not repeat other people's nonsense
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 13 January 2014 23: 11
            +1
            Quote: olp
            you do not repeat other people's nonsense


            Of course, I was not there. request , infa from the air base. But if you know - share, to the extent possible, what's with the Su-35?
            1. Berxen
              Berxen 14 January 2014 00: 08
              +1
              NEVER customers take such a step. On the contrary - to shut up the Su-35 developers with links to 30CM - this is welcome.
        2. Don
          Don 14 January 2014 15: 20
          0
          Quote: Botanologist
          Yes, during the firing, the Su-30СМ hit 77 with a missile at 100 km., And the Su-35 could not go further than 80. The highest commission of the Moscow Region came out of the situation simply by banning launches from Su-30СМ to a range higher than 80 km.

          Where did you read that? Do not throw the link? And for your reason, why can the Su-30SM R-77 be launched further than the Su-35S? I don’t understand something. If a rocket has a maximum launch range of 100 km in the front hemisphere, then for what reason does it fly a shorter distance from another plane?
        3. iSpoiler
          iSpoiler 19 January 2014 16: 12
          0
          Su 34 is actually a bomber jacket .. !! Yes, it flies like an F16, but its mission is to support troops on the battlefield, destroy objects on the ground, use cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, guided high-precision missiles and also adjustable and free-falling bombs. In principle, it can fulfill the task of gaining superiority in the air (thanks to the designers for their unique flight characteristics, he can even stand up for himself in the air) but this is not his main task for which he was created, the SU 34 is not a fighter - it is primarily a front-line bomber .

          Yes, during the firing, the Su-30SM hit 77 missiles per 100 km., And the Su-35 couldn’t go beyond 80 beyond 30. The highest commission of the Moscow Region came out of the situation simply by banning launches from the Su-80SM to a range above XNUMX km. The ingenious decision!

          Mig31 shot p80 at 37 km as far back as 280.) so don't talk nonsense.
  3. Ihrek
    Ihrek 13 January 2014 11: 54
    +20
    I don’t know how anyone, but for me our fighters, and indeed all combat aircraft are the most beautiful in the world. Su-35, T-50. Tu-160, Tu-22, Su-34, MIG-29 are vivid examples of this.
    1. Ustian
      Ustian 13 January 2014 14: 37
      +7
      Quote: Jamal
      all combat aircraft are the most beautiful in the world.

      Beauty will save the world! drinks
    2. 120352
      120352 13 January 2014 17: 40
      -1
      That's right, but they don’t have to appear on the podium, but military tasks must be solved. And if an exclusive dress on the catwalk is good, then one plane per squadron will not be enough. Especially if there are no trained pilots (not 120 hours each after the simulator, but 400 in the air).
      1. Su24
        Su24 13 January 2014 19: 59
        0
        Well, where does this come from? What is "1 plane per squadron" ??
        1. luka095
          luka095 13 January 2014 22: 41
          0
          As always, "from there". Such characters are capable of endless conversations. You are a fact to them, and they are already saying something else. For them, it seems, the main thing is to crow. And the more the better. Sunrises don't bother them.
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      3. Stalker
        Stalker 14 January 2014 02: 56
        0
        one plane per squadron will not be enough.

        What is it like ? Horseback riding? laughing
  4. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 13 January 2014 11: 54
    +3
    Great air force boost. Good luck.
  5. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 13 January 2014 11: 59
    +20
    Great start to the year. Su-35 enter service with combat units of the Air Force, in the Caspian Sea completed tests of 2 MRK project 21631 "Uglich", "Vyshny Volochek".
    Deliveries of new aircraft and helicopters to the Russian Air Force in 2013:
    -------------------------------------
    Su-35С - 12pcs
    Su-34 - 14pcs
    Su-30СМ - 14шт
    Su-30M2 - 4pcs
    MiG-29K - 2pcs
    MIG-29CUB - 2pcs
    Yak-130 - 18pcs
    An-148-100Е - 1pcs
    An-140-100 - 3pcs
    L-410UVP-E20- 3pcs
    Tu-154M - 1pcs
    Tu-214ON - 1pcs

    Mi-28H - 14pcs
    Ka-52 - 17pcs
    Mi-35 - 8pcs
    Mi-26 - 4pcs
    Mi-8AMTSH - 53pcs
    Mi-8MTV5 - 10pcs
    Ansat-U - 6pcs
    ----------------------
    Total 75 new aircraft (including 3 from the Czech Republic)
    and xnumx new helicopters
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 January 2014 13: 25
      +9
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Total 75 new aircraft (including 3 from the Czech Republic)


      And in 2011, 110 aircraft were produced, of which 20 were civilian.
      In 2008, the enterprises of "Russian Helicopters" produced 169 machines, in 2009 - 183, in 2010 - 214. But with helicopters in Russia, all one thing is bad - a terrible queue of foreign buyers

      For comparison, in the USSR from 81 to 90, from 635 to 475 aircraft were produced per year. In principle, they could have caught up, but the main thing is that then the ruble was worth other money.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 13 January 2014 13: 38
        +11
        Well, in civil aviation, not everything is so bad either:
        We must pay tribute to the Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company (SCAC) and personally to M.A. Poghosyan: they managed to do what hardly anyone believed at the beginning of the year - to fly 2013 newly built Sukhoi SuperJet SSJ24 aircraft into the air in 100.
        24-th aircraft Sukhoi SuperJet SSJ100 built 2013 year began flight tests in Komsomolsk-on-Amur 30 December - they became the board with the serial number 95048. It became the 46 built by the SSJ100 (including flight prototypes). The aircraft is intended for the Mexican airline Interjet and should become its 11-m board SSJ100. Interjet signed a contract to acquire 20 SSJ100 aircraft (with an option for 10) in January 2011, and during the 2013 year it received the first four aircraft.

        http://bmpd.livejournal.com/704621.html


        22-th aircraft Sukhoi SuperJet SSJ100 built 2013 year (serial number 95045, temporary registration 97010). This is the ninth SSJ100 for the Mexican airline Interjet. The plane was lifted into the air in Komsomolsk-on-Amur 22.12.2013.
        In total, 2013 civil aircraft were built in 36, including 33 jets (only planes that made their first flight in 2013 were counted) - much more than in 2012 (when 22 jets were built, of which 20 jets). In 2013, the 24 of the Sukhoi SuperJet SSJ100-95, six An-148-100, three An-140-100, two Tu-214 and one Il-96-300PU (М1) were lifted into the air. The pace of course not compare with the Soviet, but still happy.
        1. 120352
          120352 13 January 2014 17: 52
          -5
          If you inject and forget, then there is something to rejoice. But no more.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 January 2014 14: 32
        +12
        Quote: Vadivak

        For comparison, in the USSR from 81 to 90, from 635 to 475 aircraft were produced per year. In principle, they could have caught up, but the main thing is that then the ruble was worth other money.

        Vadim is not in the ruble, the factories have remained outside of Russia. And the existing ones are working almost at full capacity.
      3. demel2
        demel2 13 January 2014 17: 19
        -6
        Not with theft, I will not catch grandmothers enough.
      4. Su24
        Su24 13 January 2014 20: 01
        -1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: Novel 1977
        Total 75 new aircraft (including 3 from the Czech Republic)


        And in 2011, 110 aircraft were produced, of which 20 were civilian.
        In 2008, the enterprises of "Russian Helicopters" produced 169 machines, in 2009 - 183, in 2010 - 214. But with helicopters in Russia, all one thing is bad - a terrible queue of foreign buyers

        For comparison, in the USSR from 81 to 90, from 635 to 475 aircraft were produced per year. In principle, they could have caught up, but the main thing is that then the ruble was worth other money.


        And why do you compare the general figures with the supply of aircraft specifically for the domestic air force?
    2. Cher
      Cher 13 January 2014 17: 27
      0
      [quote = Novel 1977] Great start to the year. ... in the Caspian Sea, the tests of 2 MRK project 21631 "Uglich", "Vyshny Volochek" were completed ... / quote]
      What, "Vyshny Volochek"? Ha-ha-ha, maybe "Ustyug", by the way they are planning at least 3 more. There is only one trouble with the mini - there is nowhere to stand (the base is tiddly), they may want to be constantly :)
    3. 120352
      120352 13 January 2014 17: 48
      -4
      Of the total number of combat aircraft, only 48. For our country it will not be enough. (look at the globe and the length of our borders - 48 aircraft - this is a MOCKING). Yak-130-training aircraft, as a combat is not considered. The An-148 is generally a transporter with dubious parameters and low-mounted turbines, which allows it to be used only on hard-surfaced lanes. The rest, especially the rarity of the L-410, which replaced the AN-2, but failed to replace it, is not considered at all.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 13 January 2014 18: 06
        +4
        Quote: 120352
        Of the total number of combat aircraft, only 48.

        48 pcs, this is the first contract until 2016. The plans, until 2020, should be 96 pcs. We have three-year contracts now.
      2. Su24
        Su24 13 January 2014 20: 06
        0
        Quote: 120352
        Of the total number of combat aircraft, only 48. For our country it will not be enough. (look at the globe and the length of our borders - 48 aircraft - this is a MOCKING). Yak-130-training aircraft, as a combat is not considered. The An-148 is generally a transporter with dubious parameters and low-mounted turbines, which allows it to be used only on hard-surfaced lanes. The rest, especially the rarity of the L-410, which replaced the AN-2, but failed to replace it, is not considered at all.


        Aren't you tired yet? Not only him, last year, and this was not.
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 14 January 2014 02: 52
        0
        We are now actually in first place in the production of military aircraft.
  6. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 13 January 2014 12: 04
    +4
    It’s beautiful, powerful, it’s good that air regiments are being restored, it is encouraging and pleasing!
    1. 120352
      120352 13 January 2014 17: 53
      -5
      If you take a regiment as part of a squadron (one). then yeah ...
    2. servant.
      servant. 13 January 2014 18: 06
      +3
      Quote: shtanko.49
      It’s beautiful, powerful, it’s good that air regiments are being restored, it is encouraging and pleasing!

      They don’t restore but change the name from the base to the regiment, there’s nothing to restore from: there are no planes!
  7. afire
    afire 13 January 2014 12: 06
    +2
    information for whiners who are always bad :)
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 13 January 2014 12: 06
    +7
    Great news! Our military aviation always warmed my soul (I dreamed of becoming a pilot, but served far from it). And as for beauty, everything beautiful flies wonderful, sorry I don’t remember who said it. Glory to the Russian Air Force!
    1. 120352
      120352 13 January 2014 17: 55
      0
      Tupolev said this, but not about "everything", but about beautiful planes. Have you seen AN-148? That is why he can fly well and cannot.
      1. servant.
        servant. 13 January 2014 18: 07
        +2
        He flies by the way excellently! But that's just not a transporter but a member of the board!
  9. servant.
    servant. 13 January 2014 12: 32
    +5
    Handsome plane! The main thing is that the release does not stop!
    1. 120352
      120352 13 January 2014 17: 56
      +1
      Yes, he did not resume! 12 devices a year! Is this a release?
      1. Don
        Don 13 January 2014 18: 33
        +1
        Quote: 120352
        Yes, he did not resume! 12 devices a year!

        If 12 is built then resumed.
        Quote: 120352
        Is this a release?

        Yes, this is a release. And how much should the plant produce per year? Give an example.
  10. mountain
    mountain 13 January 2014 12: 39
    +4
    Very beautiful plane, there would be more of these.
  11. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 13 January 2014 12: 48
    +2
    the news is really great
    Since December 2012, no transfers of the Su-35S aircraft of the Russian Air Force have been made for exactly a year, which indirectly confirmed information about the significant problems identified during the State joint tests

    I want to believe that these problems (if any took place) have been eliminated
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 13 January 2014 18: 18
      +2
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      I want to believe that these problems (if any took place) have been eliminated

      The problem was the delay in components. The aircraft were almost ready almost stood waiting for the supplier to be controlled. Therefore, then all at once and transmitted.
  12. BOB48
    BOB48 13 January 2014 12: 58
    -3
    Ve-ve-es !!!!!!!!!!!!! angry
  13. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 13 January 2014 13: 00
    -13%
    Who will fly on these machines? Who will provide combat control for those who will fly? Who will serve these machines on the ground? Overtake overtake, and so on. Bitter silence about the household equipment of the premises for the flight-lifting structure. Ground technical, as provided living areas. Are there pre-flight training classes for modern equipped facilities?
    1. viktorR
      viktorR 13 January 2014 13: 27
      +6
      Not all at once, or do you want the conditions to be like at a resort. for that there were no planes? Well, about the pilots and technicians, maybe you are right, although not everything is so bad, but this part of the aviation also needs to be raised
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 13 January 2014 14: 47
        -6
        Quote: viktorR
        Not all at once, or do you want the conditions to be like at a resort. for that there were no planes? Well, about the pilots and technicians, maybe you are right, although not everything is so bad, but this part of the aviation also needs to be raised



        Just wanting is not harmful right away. The pace of building the Air Force’s potential could be faster. After the liquidation of flying schools, relying on the tiny VUNZ is not very healthy. The main thing in the Air Force is people, then the devices.
        1. viktorR
          viktorR 13 January 2014 17: 34
          +2
          You can criticize and whine for as long as you want, nothing will change from this, at least for the better. You can tell how everything SHOULD be ideal, but you can agree on the spaceships of the Star Fleet, which have nothing to do with reality :). As they can and they raise, the main thing that they raise is already an achievement. The main thing is that there is progress.
    2. demel2
      demel2 13 January 2014 17: 25
      0
      Sorry, you smoked today or didn’t come back from the New Year 7
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    4. Berxen
      Berxen 13 January 2014 21: 47
      +1
      The same pilots who serve there now after retraining in Lipetsk. The same techniques as now after studying the RO RE and RTE. There now is actually a functioning military base, with a military camp and all the infrastructure. Only the planes are old.
  14. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 13 January 2014 13: 03
    +3
    Good cars. The main thing is that everything revealed during the tests would be brought to mind.
  15. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 13 January 2014 13: 21
    +2
    Oh! Lyapota!
  16. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 13 January 2014 13: 31
    +3
    Good news, but the "Serdyukov reform" in the general system of flight training will be a nightmare for another 3-5 years.
  17. tnship2
    tnship2 13 January 2014 13: 38
    0
    The beauty! Both in form and in content! Always admires the work of people who can do such things. Moreover, then fly on such a machine. Would build a couple of such machines as expensive pleasure, I think a ride (as a passenger) the queue would not end. At the same time, a cash flow to the plant would flow.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 13 January 2014 15: 29
      +3
      Which passenger? Single airplane !!!
  18. Arh
    Arh 13 January 2014 13: 46
    +13

    The best ! ! !
    1. 120352
      120352 13 January 2014 18: 00
      -6
      This is just 4 ++. It will be a bit old.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 13 January 2014 18: 38
        +3
        digital numbers by generations - pure marketing and no more. fu-35 confirmation of this. the main thing is its performance characteristics, which are at their best. there Indians on their su-30MKI very clearly amers did in training battle. But the su-35S is much more technologically advanced and modern.
      2. Don
        Don 13 January 2014 18: 40
        +5
        Quote: 120352
        This is just 4 ++. It will be a bit old.

        What are you? And what else are states that have 4 ++ generation aircraft? And on the 5th only one. At the same time, read and compare the performance characteristics of the Su-35S with 4+ generations from the UK, France and the USA. And where did you get the idea that 4th and 4th generation aircraft are not capable of shooting down 5th generation aircraft ?!
      3. Odysseus
        Odysseus 13 January 2014 18: 57
        +5
        Quote: 120352
        This is just 4 ++. It will be a bit old.

        A stupid game of pluses. Why not say in Russian is the modernized Su-27. And why it will be a little old, the Americans will modernize the F-15, F-18, the Chinese are the same Su-27 and J-10. Moreover, they are doing this in parallel with production / the development of new aircraft. What's wrong with that?
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 14 January 2014 03: 14
          +2
          Quote: Odyssey
          why it will be too old, the Americans are modernizing the F-15, F-18, the Chinese are the same Su-27 and J-10. And they do it in parallel with the production / development of new airplanes. What's wrong with that?

          You are absolutely right, but we would like to not repeat the story with the Su-27CM. When a significant part of the aircraft upgraded on KnAAPO, was soon chained to the ground due to the failure of the avionics. And this is despite the fact that the 23-th air regiment on Dzomgi, is based in a dense aircraft factory.
  19. silver_roman
    silver_roman 13 January 2014 14: 07
    +3
    nothing was heard anywhere about the extension of the order for another 48 cars? who has any reliable info? to the studio ... hi

    T-50 is still a little delayed!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 13 January 2014 19: 20
      +2
      Quote: silver_roman
      nothing was heard anywhere about the extension of the order for another 48 cars? who has any reliable info?

      The extension of the contract will not be earlier than officially adopted. So before 15 years, most likely will not be.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 13 January 2014 21: 00
        0
        Quote: Russ69
        So before 15 years

        but earlier it’s not necessary. in the 15th contract for 48 aircraft ends, I hope then they will sign another 48. still, the plane is excellent in everything. Suitable for training pilots on the T-50. on the yak-130 you can’t teach them that.
  20. Wiruz
    Wiruz 13 January 2014 14: 19
    -7
    The completion of the State joint tests of the Su-35S is expected only in 2015.

    Something long, and since the car is based on the Su-27, so you can not check it at all good
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 13 January 2014 15: 20
      +10
      The machine is only outwardly similar to the Su-27, but in reality there is even a glider that has been changed beyond recognition, for example, there is no brake flap behind the cockpit, now it functions as a horizontal tail and adjustable nozzles, introduced composites, I am silent about electronics, I don’t have such a radar us, not exported.
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 13 January 2014 19: 01
        +3
        "there is no brake flap behind the cockpit, now its functions are performed by horizontal tail and adjustable nozzles" What is it like? Do not confuse with rudders?
        "introduced composites" And on the Su-27 they were not?
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 13 January 2014 18: 42
      +2
      You, apparently, do not imagine what it means even to tighten an extra nut on an airplane, and how many stages of testing it will take.
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 13 January 2014 23: 21
        +1
        Really, I can’t imagine. Why fasten the extra nut on the plane? Overweight, however. Can you enlighten, at the same time, about the stages of testing? I then devoted this whole time to the testing of aircraft for nearly 13 years, maybe I’ll learn something new?
        1. aviator65
          aviator65 13 January 2014 23: 45
          +1
          EvilLion, I'm sorry. I took your remark at my own expense. hi
  21. Garik
    Garik 13 January 2014 14: 25
    +2
    What are the storage conditions for new and used equipment at the Dzemgi airfield? Hangars, shelters canopies?
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 13 January 2014 14: 52
      -9
      Quote: Garik
      What are the storage conditions for new and used equipment at the Dzemgi airfield? Hangars, shelters canopies?




      There is a bashful silence about this. It’s easier to rattle about the number of aircraft. If there is one runway per plant and regiment, then other facilities for maintaining combat readiness should be divided into two, at least.
      1. Berxen
        Berxen 13 January 2014 21: 57
        +2
        These are your fantasies. There is nothing wrong with using one runway and an aircraft factory and part. This is not an aircraft carrier after all. During the flood, Ruslanes and the 76th sat in bundles there, the first 35th of 2013 flew around, while the military flew as usual.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 13 January 2014 22: 10
          -3
          Quote: BerXen
          These are your fantasies. There is nothing wrong with using one runway and an aircraft factory and part. This is not an aircraft carrier after all. During the flood, Ruslanes and the 76th sat in bundles there, the first 35th of 2013 flew around, while the military flew as usual.



          For a scanty number of cars, this will do in peacetime. For a full-fledged, and not two-squadron, regiment is not suitable.
          1. Berxen
            Berxen 14 January 2014 00: 25
            +2
            For a scanty number of cars, this will do in peacetime. For a full-fledged, and not two-squadron, regiment is not suitable.


            Is this choyta? There, our friends across the ocean in one lane settled the plant, NASA and even the CIVIL Airport - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Plant_42.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 13 January 2014 18: 43
      +1
      Ordinary, stubs where it is necessary to cover, civilians in hangars only go for repairs and nothing is done to them.
      1. servant.
        servant. 13 January 2014 18: 46
        +2
        Quote: EvilLion
        Ordinary, stubs where it is necessary to cover, civilians in hangars only go for repairs and nothing is done to them.


        Well, the RCU not only protects from rainfall ....
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 13 January 2014 21: 29
          0
          They are rather weakly protected from bombs, especially if it is supposed to fly on an airplane, and not keep it underground.
    3. Don
      Don 13 January 2014 18: 58
      +1
      Quote: Garik
      What are the storage conditions for new and used equipment at the Dzemgi airfield? Hangars, shelters canopies?

      I think that the fortified canopies are the same as in neighboring Khurba or Domna:
      http://warfare.be/db/lang/rus/catid/321/linkid/2224/base/287/title/277-bap/
      http://warfare.be/db/lang/rus/catid/321/linkid/2224/base/314/title/412-AvB/
    4. Berxen
      Berxen 13 January 2014 21: 52
      0
      From the side, the plants are full-fledged boathouses for built cars and a workshop for those under construction. I can’t say for sure from the military that duty vehicles are inside well-fortified U-shaped parapets that have metal gates. But visually it seemed that the family of 27 would not fit there. Maybe the zip is stored or something else.
  22. samoletil18
    samoletil18 13 January 2014 14: 27
    +2
    Pleases. More dreams: the new Tu-160 at the Engels airdrome.
    1. Vedmed_23
      Vedmed_23 13 January 2014 15: 40
      +3
      20 pieces, for the soul good
      1. 120352
        120352 13 January 2014 18: 01
        0
        It would be necessary not 20, but 2000.
  23. URAL72
    URAL72 13 January 2014 15: 13
    +2
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Quote: serviceman.
    Well, of course, only everyone has different data on the number of aircraft delivered in the 2013 year. You have 143, and comrade Roman 1977- 75!
    Who is right? Or again 146%?


    The confusion arises due to the modernization of old models, and they are in this number.


    In 2013, at least 67 aircraft were delivered for the Russian Air Force alone, about 35 were "shipped" over the hill (maybe more, we read the first 4 issues of "Takeoff", detailed reports are published there every year), plus civilian vehicles. I think 143 boards will be typed without modernization.
  24. typhoon7
    typhoon7 13 January 2014 15: 14
    +4
    The car is beautiful! I am very happy for our pilots, they deserve to defend the sky of the Motherland on such aircraft. Hopefully they will be released a lot.
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 13 January 2014 19: 07
      +1
      I also want to hope that in the end there will be many pilots and airplanes. Like before...
  25. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 13 January 2014 15: 28
    +3
    Quote: Garik
    What are the storage conditions for new and used equipment at the Dzemgi airfield? Hangars, shelters canopies?

    Standard. Old-fashioned. On concrete, open.
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 13 January 2014 19: 12
      +3
      And their technicians will serve them in boots and mittens in winter. And then complain about the manufacturers that the hatches are too small, you can’t crawl to anything. We know, passed ...
  26. AVV
    AVV 13 January 2014 16: 40
    +4
    ShturmKGB
    The main thing is to increase the pace of production, otherwise a few aircraft per year is a minuscule.

    Everything starts with a little one !!!
  27. kelevra
    kelevra 13 January 2014 17: 35
    +3
    Great planes!
  28. demel2
    demel2 13 January 2014 17: 46
    0
    Standard. In the old fashioned way, there are such handsome men on concrete, but shopping centers were reluctant to build and there is not enough money for hangars.
  29. BOB48
    BOB48 13 January 2014 18: 38
    +2
    who minus Ve-Ve-eS -tot .yu dem salt will eat! love
  30. rocketman
    rocketman 13 January 2014 18: 46
    -1
    Photos, of course, are beautiful.
    Only there is one caveat. When I was a kid, my father served in 299 BAP (KhURBA-2). If my memory serves me (maybe), then the Dzemgi aerodrome is the factory aerodrome of the named after. Gagarina. It is impossible to place any regiment there. In 1985, I first saw the Su-27 at the Khurba-2 aerodrome - my father said that this was a new squadron of new interceptors. Therefore, it’s either a mistake in the article - people just take the equipment there, they won’t be based in jengas, or the aircraft factory built itself a new airdrome, which I doubt.

    Quote: gunnerminer
    who will fly on these machines? Who will provide combat control for those who will fly? Who will service these machines on the ground? Drive overtake, and so on. Bitter silence about the household equipment of the premises for the flight-lifting structure. Ground technical, as provided living areas. Are there pre-flight training classes for modern equipped facilities?

    All this is in Khurb - 2, where there is a civilian airport of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, 30 km distance.
    1. Don
      Don 13 January 2014 19: 14
      0
      Quote: rocketman
      It is impossible to place any regiment there.

      Not sure, but one regiment is, in my opinion, 3 squadrons, 36 aircraft ?! If so, then there are 44 aircraft. How did they fit there.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 13 January 2014 21: 30
        +1
        We have long since switched to the 2-heskadrilny composition, but not from a good life.
    2. Don
      Don 13 January 2014 19: 14
      0
      Quote: rocketman
      It is impossible to place any regiment there.

      Not sure, but one regiment is, in my opinion, 3 squadrons, 36 aircraft ?! If so, then there are 44 aircraft. How did they fit there.
    3. Odysseus
      Odysseus 13 January 2014 20: 37
      +1
      Quote: rocketman
      It is impossible to place any regiment there.

      If you make a lot of room, you can. It is based there, emnip, 34 Su-27,27UB, 27SM. That is, according to the old regiment. True, not all are suitable for flight. Just 12 old Su-27s will be written off and the 35th will be replaced.
      1. Don
        Don 14 January 2014 13: 12
        0
        Quote: Odyssey
        34 Su-27,27UB, 27CM. That is, according to the old regiment, though not all are suitable for flight. Just 12 old Su-27s will be written off and the 35th will be replaced.

        What is EMNIP?
        Well, how many are suitable for flight and how many are not, I don’t know, just as I think you don’t know, but as far as I know, 30 Su-27, 2 Su-30 and 12 Su-35S are based in Dzemgi now. That is 44 aircraft. And I didn’t hear that they were going to write off the Su-27, they said about the MiG-29 that they would write off a certain amount, but not about the Su-27.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 14 January 2014 19: 09
          +2
          Quote: Don
          What is EMNIP?

          Short for If memory serves me right.
          Quote: Don
          Well, how many are suitable for flight, and how many are not, I don’t know, just as I think you don’t know

          Exactly at the current moment, of course, I don’t know. This is known only in Dzemgi and possibly in the High Command))
          But many do not fly, that's for sure.
          Quote: Don
          but as far as I know, 30 Su-27s, 2 Su-30s and 12 Su-35s are based in Dzemgi now

          Somewhere it is. Sparks Su-30M2 and Su-35 are new.
          Quote: Don
          And I didn’t hear that they were going to write off the Su-27

          Well, they do not report about the write-off "publicly", but basically they do not write off them now, but are "transferred to storage" or simply the planes are listed as donors for the "living". smile
          Quote: Don
          about the MiG-29 they said that some would write off,

          Mig-29 9-12 and 9-13, alas, everything. Somewhere (like in Domna) they haven’t been flying for a long time, somewhere (like in the south) there are still a few flying people, but it’s 2-3 years of strength.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 15 January 2014 12: 54
            +3
            These "storage" Su-27s are in caponiers on Dzemga, in the open air in the northeastern part of the airfield. Before that, the Su-15 had been kept there for a long time. They will never rise into the air.
    4. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 13 January 2014 21: 42
      -4
      All this is in Khurb - 2, where there is a civilian airport of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, 30 km distance.




      Is it okay to ride for basic needs over 30 km?
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 14 January 2014 03: 27
        +3
        With all due respect, in this case you wrote nonsense. Su-27 in Khurba is not based, there are bombers-Su-24.In the vicinity of Komsomolsk 2 military airfield.
    5. Bongo
      Bongo 14 January 2014 03: 22
      +3
      You are mistaken, Su-24 is based in Khurba. Dzomgi airfield - 23 th fighter air regiment (formerly Tallinn) shares with the plant.
      Satellite image Google Earth: Su-24 in Khurba.
  31. individual
    individual 13 January 2014 18: 59
    +3
    Komsomolsk-on-Amur, aviation plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin.
    An example of the fact that Russia is little by little selected from the liberal swamp.
    In the failed 95s was at the factory.
    The people were waiting for anxiety over the fate of the city-forming plant of the military-industrial complex.
    And now the 23rd Fighter Aviation Regiment has been recreated at the Dzemgi airfield, which received 12 production Su-35S fighters. built by JSC "Company" Sukhoi.
  32. duchy
    duchy 13 January 2014 19: 01
    +2
    The ice has broken gentlemen of the jury !!! good Now, in the process of flight operation, all the shortcomings will be revealed and they will create even faster and more. The main thing is that these handsome men would enter combat units, and what about their number in the Air Force, but do you need it ??? This is necessary for our enemies, and some are so rushing from what they know, remember gentlemen, "Chatterbox, a find for a spy." No wonder Snowden arrived in Russia, and some are already bursting with information and secretly around the world. fool
  33. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 13 January 2014 19: 38
    +2
    Quote: aviator65
    And their technicians will serve them in boots and mittens in winter. And then complain about the manufacturers that the hatches are too small, you can’t crawl to anything. We know, passed ...

    Passed, for me, the stage. But they did not complain. They just did their job and that's it. Our guys are flying.
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 13 January 2014 20: 09
      +4
      Understand. Just inspired. Such reproaches had to be heard personally back in 91 already in Borisoglebsk. True, it was about the MiG-29. What is characteristic, when I asked the engineer of the regiment why they do not use warm hangars when carrying out the regulations, he, as they say, shyly opened his eyes.
      1. stranik72
        stranik72 13 January 2014 20: 49
        0
        aviator65
        Maybe the reason is that he (MiG-29) did not fit into the TEC hangar. There in Borisoglebsk in UAP the hangar was built for the MiG-15/17.
  34. artgrad
    artgrad 13 January 2014 20: 10
    +1
    You give to Belarus also - the SU 35C squadron, so that the hedgehogs behind the cardon will finally have a break in! Hehe
  35. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 13 January 2014 20: 28
    +1
    Gift for the new year !!!!!!!!!!! Fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  36. s1н7т
    s1н7т 13 January 2014 20: 57
    +2
    Airbase "Normandie-Niemen" - the height of idiocy, however! Well at least the shelves are being returned again, maybe the country will become normal again someday. Bases, brigades, commanders - what kind of Mr. just not brought from the West!
  37. Berxen
    Berxen 13 January 2014 22: 09
    0
    A military unit is located between the two passageways. Residential buildings - Soviet, at least look.
  38. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 13 January 2014 22: 57
    +4
    Aviation equipment is not stored at aerodromes, but is operated. Actually this operation is divided into flight and ground. For ground operation, the conditions have always been difficult, bearing in mind the conditions for the implementation of operational types of training, for routine and repair work. They were most comfortable in parts of 16 VA. In other VAs, there was something for five, something for three. Some had RCBs, but there were no decent TEC hangars and vice versa. But with the competent organization of the IAO, all this is easily leveled.
    In general, it’s fun to read the comments of people who do not know aviation terminology.
    And lastly, I am extremely pleased that the vector for the further development of the Air Force is aimed at the right side. Everything else will follow. SURE.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 14 January 2014 10: 44
      0
      Quote: ODERVIT
      They were most comfortable in parts of 16 VA. In other VAs, there was something for five, something for three. Some had RCBs, but there were no decent TEC hangars and vice versa.

      Somehow I did not notice a big difference between Siversky-2 (LenVO, 83 g.) And Alteslagerem (16 VA, 88 g.) - normal RCUs, normal TEC. It’s not worth generalizing, probably hi
      1. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 14 January 2014 18: 25
        0
        hi This is not a generalization, but a deep knowledge of the subject of discussion. I know Siverskaya firsthand, it was there that I spent five years organizing the IAO.
      2. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 15 January 2014 19: 00
        0
        By the way, TEC in the singular.
    2. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 14 January 2014 13: 55
      0
      Yes, it is in operation. What is the operation? Preliminary. Pre-flight. For re-flight. Post-flight. Regulations. (50,100,200) or 1 month 3 months 6 months 12,24 Well, you can't do without PCBs. I agree with you. But there are rules governing the activities of IAS. You should not deviate from them. They are simply correct. You "+" for a good comment! good
      1. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 14 January 2014 18: 35
        0
        No one calls for a step back from fulfilling the requirements of the guidelines. I talked about something else, about the adaptation of the IAO to different conditions for basing front-line aviation. I know the topic for 6 on a five-point system.
        lol
      2. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 14 January 2014 18: 47
        0
        This is not a generalization, knowledge of the subject. And Siversaya is simply the home of his native, five years of the organization of the IAO regiment. hi
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  40. Sergey47
    Sergey47 14 January 2014 00: 29
    +1
    Guys! This is great. To whom it is not enough, try to fight with them, I mean planes.
  41. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 14 January 2014 05: 37
    +1
    With my own eyes I see the flights of the new -13 year SU-30SM-at heart joyfully and become calmer for the future of our children!
  42. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 14 January 2014 13: 45
    0
    Quote: aviator65
    Understand. Just inspired. Such reproaches had to be heard personally back in 91 already in Borisoglebsk. True, it was about the MiG-29. What is characteristic, when I asked the engineer of the regiment why they do not use warm hangars when carrying out the regulations, he, as they say, shyly opened his eyes.

    I agree. But we also had no hangars. And at -30, in the same vest between the engines they clogged. Top cover with tarpaulin, kerosene for warming, and digging around slowly. Then they swept through the hatch into the helicopter’s warm interior. laughing But they did not complain. In their youth, this was taken for granted. By the way, now too.
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  43. Watchman
    Watchman 18 January 2014 19: 18
    0
    Great cars! Only 24 pieces on the border with China - this is very small.
  44. konvalval
    konvalval 18 January 2014 22: 53
    0
    Good news is good to hear every day.
  45. Salamander
    Salamander 19 January 2014 19: 16
    0
    Su-35 is my favorite plane! good good good
    1. marder4
      marder4 20 January 2014 11: 30
      0
      beautiful car, you can’t say anything ...