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Pan Shalopay, Israel and Counterintelligence: on the resignation of Polish Deputy Defense Minister Skrypczak

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Pan Shalopay, Israel and Counterintelligence: on the resignation of Polish Deputy Defense Minister Skrypczak

At the end of November, 2013, the Deputy Minister of National Defense, Waldemar Skshipczak, who is in charge of arming and modernizing the Polish army, resigned. The general sent a letter to the Minister of National Defense Tomash Simonyak, and according to the last submission, the resignation was accepted by Prime Minister Donald Tusk.


The prime minister praised the work of the general in his post as deputy minister of national defense, but noted that “no member of the government should create problems, even if these problems are the result of unintentional actions.”

For his part, the general stated that “in his entire service and in his work he was guided exclusively by the interests of the Polish Army, acting honestly and with full dedication. Despite the fact that state bodies did not formulate any charges against him, he became the object of unjust attacks, which created difficulties for the prime minister, the government and the minister of defense. ”

The resignation of General Skrapczak is associated with suspicions of corruption, including during the tender for the purchase of combat unmanned aircraft (drones) for the Polish army. As is known, the Su-22 fighters are still in service with the Polish army. The Polish Defense Ministry rejected the idea of ​​modernizing Soviet fighters in favor of completely replacing them with new drone drones.

Two Israeli firms participated in the tender: ELBIT SYSTEM and IAI (Israel Aerospace Industries). Commenting on the subsequent scandalous events, he himself said in an interview that “as a Polish general, as a soldier who swore an oath, he would never agree that we would slip projects that were previously sold to Russians, because "Codes of data transmission channels". The problems that Israel is facing now are connected with this, since the very firm whose attacks I now have to endure has sold its Heron drones to Russia, and the latter, it is possible, to someone else. And this “somebody” is probably Hezbolch or Iran, but they also paralyzed the drones produced by the same company in Israel. ”

The resignation was preceded by a series of events. In September, 2013. The District Prosecutor's Office of Warsaw began investigating the case of the deputy head of the military department on the basis of materials submitted by the Military Counterintelligence Service, which in turn did not extend to him the certificate of access to classified information. The conflict of V.Spishchak with counterintelligence has been brewing for a long time. It is known that the general was auditioned, an analysis of the sources of his income was conducted, the nature of his relationship with firms cooperating with the Ministry of National Defense was studied; besides, his personal life was not left without attention either. As a result, it turned out that the deputy minister had concealed in his “official security questionnaire” about himself a number of information that he previously had contacts with army equipment suppliers, including Israeli UAB companies producing UAVs, and to top it off Around the world, numerous flirtations of the general and his correspondence with women on the “Sympathy” portal under the name “Waldek Iraq” were publicized.

The formal reason for the resignation was история with a letter signed by General Skrypczak, the text of which was published by the newspaper Vyborcha. The letter was addressed to the SIBAT (Israeli Ministry of Defense). In it, Skyspczak assured the Israeli partner of the desire to cooperate, emphasizing that “the intention of the INR” is “to formulate principles of cooperation regarding the production and deployment of systems in Poland that are used in the Israeli Armed Forces and which are supplied by ELBIT SYSTEM.

The letter caused a scandal in Israel, because prior to the announcement of the outcome of the auction, the Polish side actually preferred one of the participating companies. As a result, the Polish military department was forced to give the appropriate comments, and the general explained himself to the minister and the military counterintelligence service.

Anyway, behind all this history there is a lot of money. At stake is 1 billion zlotys for the purchase of drones for the Polish army. The one who gets it will get a chance for supplies under the modernization program of the entire air defense system of Poland, to which the INR will allocate PLN 15-17 billion in the coming years.

Therefore, the general is not guilty. Perhaps he is “a loafer and a rake,” as one of his acquaintances said about him, but at the same time “a decent person, did not steal, did not extort bribes. And the counterintelligence material is weak, by-the-living, nothing more. ” He just crossed the road to the lobbyists.
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  1. darksidewarrior
    darksidewarrior 13 January 2014 11: 47
    +8
    He paired with Serdyukov worked on a cut. And in the end all the Jews were. In rzhaka! I'm crying.
    1. smel
      smel 13 January 2014 12: 07
      +9
      It should be sent to collect stools. Thieves and thieves in Africa. Only this one left, but ours left. Tom had to explain to many law enforcement officers, but ours is a damn thing. Until now, his arrogant and smug mug flickers here and there.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 13 January 2014 13: 17
        +1
        Quote: smel
        Until now, his arrogant and smug mug flickers here and there.


        If you knew how annoying it is to me. You either disappear out of sight or write upright
      2. alone
        alone 13 January 2014 22: 18
        0
        Quote: smel
        Only this one left, and ours left


        Well, yes. I agree. This one had the courage to leave. And we only have to kick our
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 14 January 2014 01: 04
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          and we have only to kick our

          And yours too? Well then they are not to blame, it is a disease. They are passed on to diplomatic meetings, at the level of military ministries through "paper media", handshakes or kisses (?). Here "serdyukoff" should be treated ...

          German Minister of Defense awaits the fate of Serdyukov.



          BERLIN, June 10, 2013
          The German opposition accused the defense ministry of concealing information about the development of Eurohawk drones. A statement was made by the representative of the largest opposition Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) Rainer Arnold.

          The minister must explain all the inconsistencies in this case, he said. “However, I am convinced that it will no longer be possible to investigate them. De Mezières can no longer manage the department,” the politician said.

          The defense department and its head, Thomas de Mezieres, came under fire after it became known on May 14 that the federal republic would not be able to adopt UAVs. In military circles, allegedly, this was known for a long time, however, the project financing program was not suspended. As a result, Germany invested in the aircraft, according to various sources, from 500 million to 1,3 billion euros.

          According to Thomas Oppermann, secretary of the SPD faction in the Bundestag, de Meziere’s resignation amid the drones scandal is a matter of time.

          In the ruling coalition, which includes the Christian Social Union, the Christian Democratic Union and the Free Democratic Party, the Minister does not see the need for resignation. In fact, the current government understands that a resignation would seriously hit her reputation ahead of the September 22 Bundestag election.

          Last Wednesday, the first hearings were held in the parliamentary committee on defense. De Mezieres submitted a 67-page report, which recorded everything related to the participation of the ministry in the UAV project, and indicated that he had nothing to reproach himself for, since he himself did not have enough information.


          It is not "pan-mischief" here, but pan-demia strides across the planet. It's time to lower the "iron curtain."
          1
          1. demel2
            demel2 14 January 2014 04: 22
            +2
            also the negligent did not know the poor fellow
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 13 January 2014 12: 32
      +3
      Yes I say, with Israel NO business is not worth it!
      You can’t buy anything besides deception, or they will sell junk, or at exorbitant prices, or marriage, like Estonia, and with the condition that you buy potatoes in kibbutzim ...
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 January 2014 12: 43
        0
        Read more about Estonian marriage
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 13 January 2014 14: 00
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Read more about Estonian marriage

          Better about the SWEDISH FAMILY laughing wink
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 13 January 2014 18: 19
          +2
          “From a previously classified audit it turns out that an article by the Eesti Ekspress newspaper published in 1994 was true - Israel sent unusable cannons to Estonia.

          After a mandatory revision of the state secret, the National Audit Office decided to declassify the audit of transactions for the acquisition of Israeli weapons conducted in 1995. This information is no longer detrimental to the security of Estonia. "
          http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/estonia/rassekrecheny-dokumenty-raskryvshie-lozh-laara

          -kak-estonii-podarili-metallolom-za-60-millionov.d? id = 64542504

          Read the original publication at Eesti Express.
          1. Professor
            Professor 13 January 2014 22: 20
            +1
            Quote: mirag2
            Read the original publication at Eesti Express.

            I read, wept. Full crap designed for ... fool
            The problem arose with air defense guns. Estonia wanted to acquire Stinger man-portable air defense systems. Israel produced them on the basis of a US license, however, refused to sell them to Estonia. For this, America’s permission was needed.

            Stingers made in Israel? By license? Rave. I do not read further.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 13 January 2014 23: 12
            0
            Quote: mirag2
            “From a previously classified audit it turns out that an article by the Eesti Ekspress newspaper published in 1994 was true - Israel sent unusable cannons to Estonia.

            Is there a second original authoritative source on the subject? And without a few kilos of illiterate statements?
        3. IRBIS
          IRBIS 14 January 2014 11: 28
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          Read more about Estonian marriage

          Eugene, details will not be - this is from the category "if only piz..t something." Again the people climb on their favorite "horse" - "the Jews are to blame for everything!"
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 14 January 2014 12: 37
            -1
            Duck in general, and I about the same
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 13 January 2014 23: 30
      0
      Quote: darksidewarrior
      He paired with Serdyukov worked on a cut. And in the end all the Jews were. In rzhaka! I'm crying.


      So it is necessary to put them in one cell, let them clean the chimney in a purely European manner ...
  2. Lyapis
    Lyapis 13 January 2014 11: 47
    +3
    ... as a Polish general, as a soldier who has taken the oath, he will never agree to give us projects that were previously sold to the Russians, because along with such equipment are also sold “data transmission channel codes”.

    The Pole was banal stealing, but all the same, he is looking for the reasons for his resignation in the intrigues of the Russians and pretends to be almost the main defender against the "red threat".
    So ridiculous that it’s not even funny. negative
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 13 January 2014 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: Lyapis
      The Pole was banal stealing, but all the same, he is looking for the reasons for his resignation in the intrigues of the Russians and pretends to be almost the main defender against the "red threat".

      But as he came from far away, right the master under carpet intrigue!
      We were handed projects that were previously sold to Russians, because “codes for data transmission channels” are sold along with such equipment. It is with this that the problems that Israel is now facing are related, since the very company whose attacks I have to endure now sold its Heron drones to Russia, and the latter, it is possible, to someone else. And this “someone” is probably Hezbolah or Iran, and they paralyzed the drones produced by the same company in Israel. ”

      It’s good that I didn’t have time to accuse Russia of Ariel Sharon’s death, otherwise we would have a lid! hi
  3. svskor80
    svskor80 13 January 2014 11: 57
    +7
    After reading the article, the feeling that this Pole said: "Do I really steal, here they are Russians stealing, and I am so interested in my interests."
  4. PPL
    PPL 13 January 2014 12: 13
    0
    ... He just crossed the road to lobbyists.

    Thief stole a baton from a thief! lol
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 14 January 2014 00: 43
      +1
      Thief, too! laughing
      Sleep $ dil% wow and put it away in @ ope wassat
  5. individual
    individual 13 January 2014 12: 23
    +1
    The dubious fame of Monica Lewinsky, a lover of playing the crooked "Sixiphone", haunts Polish Sksipchak with her friends from the Sympathy portal on
    the Heron drone, but without the saxophone. am
  6. makarov
    makarov 13 January 2014 12: 31
    +2
    Again, the same golden calf !! And where are the show-offs about European values, and the purity of the ranks of the Catholic faith ??? probably as always, everything else is in the duplex !!
  7. mountain
    mountain 13 January 2014 12: 47
    +2
    If there were more such disagreements there, you look and we have more time, it will increase.
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 13 January 2014 13: 10
    +6
    On the face is written: "Looks like I was thrown!" and: "Dad said to me:" Don't mess with Jews, son! From them only indigestion and hemorrhoids! "Didn't listen ... What an eccentric I am with a capital M!"
  9. MACCABI TLV
    MACCABI TLV 13 January 2014 13: 18
    +1
    It is with this that the problems that Israel is now facing are related, since the very company whose attacks I have to endure now sold its Heron drones to Russia, and the latter, it is possible, to someone else. And this “someone” is probably Hezbolah or Iran, and they paralyzed the drones produced by the same company in Israel. ”
    Giron in Russia ????? Who else has not ended the New Year? After this paragraph, I did not read further.
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 13 January 2014 14: 44
      +3
      Quote: MACCABI TLV
      Giron in Russia ?????

      Take it easy with your technologies! We were sold the Surcher bullshit. But your super-technological HERon was bought by the Indians ... to discuss further?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 January 2014 15: 41
        0
        Quote: edeligor
        We were sold the Surcher bullshit.

        More than Sercher Bullshit
        1. raf
          raf 13 January 2014 16: 07
          +4
          I respect you "Bumpy" for your patriotism, as soon as you notice the slightest hint that Israeli weapons are bad, you immediately rush into battle, demand facts and proof! Eh, many of ours would like that! There is a lot to learn! And then sometimes one gets the impression that the site is only "all-perverted"!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 January 2014 23: 14
            +1
            Quote: raf
            I respect you "Bumpy" for your patriotism, as soon as you notice the slightest hint that Israeli weapons are bad, you immediately rush into battle, demand facts and proof! Eh, many of ours would like that! There is a lot to learn! And then sometimes one gets the impression that the site is only "all-perverted"!

            I do not like actively avoiding facts on emotional grounds. Whether it be Russian, Israeli, German or some other weapon.
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 13 January 2014 22: 01
          -1
          Read more about Estonia. And then over there, a man laid out material, and you ask all formidable questions. Can violate national tradition and try to answer? About guns interesting ...
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 January 2014 23: 15
            0
            The man posted an article in a yellow newspaper. In a bunch of stocks of factology. But I don’t remember anything about the investigations, or the information wave in more serious publications.
        3. IRBIS
          IRBIS 14 January 2014 11: 36
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          More than Sercher Bullshit

          The fact that bought from Israel. Our, Russian UAVs are much cooler and better, but due to temporary difficulties they are, to put it mildly, not yet.
          The main task of the Russian "patriot" is to kick a German, spit at an American, call all Europeans homosexuals and, of course, blame Jews for all Russia's troubles.
          Only then it is believed that the day will not live in vain!
  10. bubla5
    bubla5 13 January 2014 13: 21
    +2
    Where are the Jews, there are always bastards
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 13 January 2014 14: 38
      +8
      Do not tell me, most likely a multi-way combination in order to obtain a gesheft. Stan Fisher was in the role of director of the Central Bank of Israel, and now deputy head of the US Federal Reserve. There is no smell of pranks here, Jews have always been thoughtful things. hi
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 January 2014 15: 46
        0
        Before that, Stanley Fisher worked actively in various international and American financial systems. The head of the Central Bank of Israel is an exception; before that, he worked in the USA, in particular, in high positions in the IMF (he was deputy head). Well, as the head of the Central Bank of Israel, he was three times recognized as the best head of the central bank in the world according to Global Finance magazine and one more time according to the version of Euromoney magazine.

        He taught at the University of Chicago and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He was the chief economist of the World Bank (1988-90). He was the first deputy head of the International Monetary Fund. From the beginning of 2002, he worked with Citigroup and became its vice president.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 13 January 2014 18: 23
          +1
          A genius, probably? laughing
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 13 January 2014 18: 40
            +2
            Quote: mirag2
            A genius, probably? laughing

            Undoubtedly. Fisher kept all politicians like a good horse driver when they tried to engage in populism at the expense of the budget, since the head of the Bank of Israel was an independent figure. As a result, you can see how Israel’s GDP jumped with it and this during the period of military conflicts and the global financial crisis.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 13 January 2014 18: 53
              +3
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              The head of the Bank of Israel is an independent figure

              Well, this is a no brainer, the authority is final. laughing
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 13 January 2014 20: 02
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Well, this is a no brainer, the instance is final

                good laughing hi
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 13 January 2014 23: 17
                -2
                It is interesting how, as the ultimate authority, Israel survived the banking crisis with hyperinflation in 1982, and the economic crisis in the early 2000s.
            2. ruslan207
              ruslan207 14 January 2014 00: 06
              -1
              Aron Zawi-Fisher Minister of Finance Isael, even the Prime Minister can
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 14 January 2014 01: 21
                0
                He refused to be the Minister of Finance.
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          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 13 January 2014 18: 51
            0
            Quote: mirag2
            A genius, probably?

            No, probably Fin with Armenian roots. wassat
  11. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 13 January 2014 13: 25
    +2
    Skipszczak stated in an interview that he “as a Polish general, as a soldier who had taken the oath, would never agree to give us projects that were previously sold to the Russians, because along with this equipment are also sold“ data transmission channel codes ” . It is with this that the problems that Israel is now facing are related, since the very company whose attacks I have to endure now sold its Heron drones to Russia, and the latter, it is possible, to someone else. And this “someone” is probably Hezbolah or Iran, and they paralyzed the drones produced by the same company in Israel. ”

    People work, bought drones from the Jews and resold them, you look at the Jews and everything will return, but for free.
    And this Skshipchak, "a Polish general, a soldier who took the oath", is not going to fight with Russia in any way? He clearly needs to buy a lip roll-up machine. And not only to him, but to his colleagues as well, but it’s as if where they didn’t mess with something.
  12. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 13 January 2014 14: 16
    +1
    Well, pan got caught, well, what's the problem? And if he is trending Mother Russia, then he has already survived from his mind.
  13. Stasi
    Stasi 13 January 2014 14: 23
    +4
    Please note: the Polish army is not going to upgrade fighters, but is planning to replace fighter aircraft with drones! To class! A chic idea in general, to gain dominance in the air with drones! The general was kicked out because the Americans laurels appropriated such an idea for themselves, but then some kind of Poland gets in the way. Just fun with these Poles!
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 13 January 2014 14: 49
      +6
      Quote: Stasi
      going to replace fighter aircraft with drones!

      The owner overseas said that he would make fighter aircraft and tankers drones. The Poles made a stand and began to fulfill the overseas dream into reality. They don’t understand that it was a disinformation for competitors. Anyway, we are only better off.
      Do Israeli drones fly on Saturdays? wink
      1. matross
        matross 13 January 2014 15: 40
        +5
        Quote: edeligor
        Do Israeli drones fly on Saturdays?

        If on kosher fuel, then fly! laughing
      2. Professor
        Professor 13 January 2014 22: 22
        0
        Quote: edeligor
        Do Israeli drones fly on Saturdays?

        And you ask the terrorists. On Saturdays, they are afraid of climbing out of holes.
    2. Akim
      Akim 13 January 2014 15: 03
      +1
      Quote: Stasi
      the Polish army is not going to upgrade fighters but is going to replace fighter aircraft with drones

      Not fighter, but bomber. In addition, the decision to completely replace them with UAVs has not yet been made.
      Następca Su-22
      http://www.defence24.pl/news_nastepca-su-22
  14. antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 13 January 2014 14: 24
    +5
    That's about Israel. Read.
    "Israeli soldiers kidnapped a Palestinian sixth grader from Hazma, near Jerusalem," according to the International Organization for the Defense of Children of Palestine.

    12-year-old Mustafa al-Khatib was taken away by the military on January XNUMX. On the second day, the Israeli Prosecutor General’s Office petitioned to extend the child’s imprisonment for up to two months to charge him, Vatan writes in a note entitled “A twelve-year-old child scares Israel.”

    As a result of the conclusion, Mustafa al-Khatib, who is studying in the sixth grade, was unable to pass exams in two subjects, according to a press release from the human rights organization, cited by the publication.

    According to human rights activists, the Israeli army quite often resorts to the practice of capturing children. After that, the court usually makes a decision on their release on a large bail and a fine, which often turn out to be beyond the strength of relatives.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 January 2014 15: 48
      -2
      Quote: antibanukuraza
      "Israeli soldiers kidnapped a Palestinian sixth grader from Hazma, near Jerusalem," according to the International Organization for the Defense of Children of Palestine.

      Always sobbing while reading these marvelous press releases 8)
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 13 January 2014 18: 24
        0
        Laughter through tears - or tears through laughter?
        Clean ...
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 13 January 2014 18: 41
          0
          Quote: mirag2
          Laughter through tears - or tears through laughter?
          Clean ...

          Edition "Vatan" ....
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  15. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 13 January 2014 14: 26
    +2
    In the arms trade there is no honesty anywhere, as indeed in general in the trade.
    Probably in Soviet times, it was impossible to avoid this, I guess.
  16. Spartan
    Spartan 13 January 2014 14: 40
    +4
    What is the resignation? These must be put to the wall both in our country and in Poland, a person who undermines national security must be accountable to the military tribunal, so that it would not be disastrous!
  17. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 13 January 2014 15: 25
    +6
    Dear Poles, you are fed up with your spam - remember once and for all - in the world there are only 3 countries that have the right to talk about their defense capabilities and independence, and you are not among them! You are NOBODY! You upstarts are not thankful. Sit there silently, clowns. angry
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 13 January 2014 18: 15
      +6
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Dear Poles, you are fed up with your spam - remember once and for all - in the world there are only 3 countries that have the right to talk about their defense capabilities and independence, and you are not among them! You are NOBODY! You upstarts are not thankful. Sit there silently, clowns.

      Exactly, all the money spent by the Poles and other Estonians on weapons is wasted. Drones in the presence of air defense aircraft and ground-based air defense systems will help them no more than slingshots against tanks.
      In the modern world, real military power without a developed defense industry cannot exist.
      Those who are not capable of producing aircraft, missiles, tanks, submarines and other military equipment themselves cannot even count on effective defense, and there is nothing to think about the offensive and victory.
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    3. Spartan
      Spartan 13 January 2014 21: 47
      +1
      And please tell us these three countries! Is it really interesting? winked
      1. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 14 January 2014 08: 43
        +2
        Ptah answered you a little lower. hi
    4. Sasha1979
      Sasha1979 13 January 2014 23: 34
      +1
      3? But isn’t Germany?
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 14 January 2014 01: 37
        +2
        Quote: Sasha1979
        3? But isn’t Germany?

        Russia, Ameria, China. Germany, alas, no.
        Bundeswehr dissatisfied with Merkel reforms


        In Germany, dissatisfaction with the military over the reform of the Bundeswehr is growing. At an annual meeting with the military elite, Chancellor Angela Merkel called for the reform to be adopted "with heart and mind." However, this is beyond the power of soldiers and officers who are tormented by uncertainty and the feeling that information is being hidden from them. Germany continues to treat the army as if it does not exist.

        It was decided to close 31 military facilities by 2017, and another 90 in the future. It is envisaged to reduce military projects by billions of euros. Instead of 177 fighters, 140 will be purchased. The order for military helicopters will be halved - to 40 units. But the biggest savings will come from reducing personnel. With about half a million servicemen during the Cold War, it will no longer exceed 185, and by 2019 - 170.

        According to the head of the Bundeswehr parliamentary commission Hellmut Königshaus, military service has become not prestigious, it will be difficult to recruit an annual minimum of 5 thousand people, while more recently it amounted to 15 thousand. He receives many complaints from soldiers and officers who characterize the situation as chaos, are unsure of their future and believe that their opinion is not taken into account. According to the Bundeswehr Military Association, 88 percent of officers are convinced that the timelines set for reform require an upward correction. About 53 percent of all soldiers think reform has failed.
        1. Spartan
          Spartan 14 January 2014 18: 54
          -1
          These are only the most powerful countries! But France, Great Britain, India, Japan, Germany, Switzerland are able to repel the attacks of any enemy except perhaps the USA! And about 25 countries represent a serious regional force! So I would not belittle in your place the role of other states! wink As you know, ants and a lion will be bitten if combined! wink
          1. Dazdranagon
            Dazdranagon 16 January 2014 12: 38
            +1
            Quote: Ptah
            France, Great Britain, India, Japan, Germany, Switzerland are able to repel attacks of any enemy
            - only each other. Just look at their military. And remember the recent situation with our ships off the coast of Great Britain ...

            Quote: Spartan
            serious regional strength
            - no more. And then, in relation to the same as they are.
  18. propolsky
    propolsky 13 January 2014 16: 13
    +3
    The Polish military department rejected the idea of ​​modernizing Soviet fighters in favor of their complete replacement with new strike drones.
    That's right, if there is no money for upgrading aircraft, then replace them with drones, which cost even more than upgrading aircraft. And it’s better to go right on the flying saucers, well, as we say, so as not to run twice!
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    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 13 January 2014 19: 01
      +1
      Quote: propolsky
      That's right, if there is no money for upgrading aircraft, then replace them with drones, which cost even more than upgrading aircraft. And it’s better to go right on the flying saucers, well, as we say, so as not to run twice!

      Slingshots are well suited to plates, as air defense systems. Cheap and cheerful.
      For money and harness, for friends and beer. Who can afford it.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 13 January 2014 19: 58
        +1
        But is it not the Chinese by the hour !! At least I don’t remember such platforms ... Excuse me if something is wrong ...
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        2. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 13 January 2014 21: 04
          +1
          Quote: retired
          But is it not the Chinese by the hour !! At least I don’t remember such platforms ... Excuse me if something is wrong

          No, not the Chinese. The Chinese do not have such yet, did not have time to buy and copy.
          This is the S-400 "Triumph" air defense system
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 13 January 2014 23: 59
            +2
            Quote: retired
            ..Sorry if what is wrong ...
            That's it! HQ-9 (PRC) ZY Torn off the S-300P. crying
  19. AVV
    AVV 13 January 2014 16: 24
    0
    Quote: darksidewarrior
    He paired with Serdyukov worked on a cut. And in the end all the Jews were. In rzhaka! I'm crying.

    Everywhere there is a wrestling fight !!! Who whom ???
  20. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 13 January 2014 21: 47
    +2
    Bah, it turns out that corruption exists in enlightened democratic Europe - it CAN’T BE laughing
  21. zaazua
    zaazua 13 January 2014 23: 12
    +6
    Quote: Professor

    I read, wept.

    the rzhach here
    "At the same time, Israel agreed to sell Soviet 23-millimeter guns. For 50 such guns and 200 shells, Estonia had to pay about 000 million kroons. It turned out that the guns were 60-23 years old."
    Why did they think that they are being produced in Israel !?
  22. siberalt
    siberalt 13 January 2014 23: 44
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    Quote: svskor80
    After reading the article, the feeling that this Pole said: "Do I really steal, here they are Russians stealing, and I am so interested in my interests."

    Somehow, the Israelis mostly - who escaped from Poland from Adik Schicklgruber. But there is something left.)))
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 14 January 2014 01: 31
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      Quote: siberalt
      Somehow, the Israelis mostly - who escaped from Poland from Adik Schicklgruber. But there is something left.)))

      It's funny Somehow dig deeper into geography. Do you call Hitler Shiklgruber confident that the surname sounds somehow Jewish? It is originally Austrian, belongs to Hitler's grandmother, because grandfather did not recognize a certain time of kinship. The suspicion of a Jewish life that you are so ignorantly trying to hint at was related to the fact that the grandmother, the mother of Hitler's father Alois, worked on a number of theories for a short time with the Jewish banker Leopold Frankenberger. But to refute it, just look at the portrait of the grandfather - they are very similar.
  23. realstrannik
    realstrannik 14 January 2014 00: 13
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    The bloodthirstiness of the Jewish "settlers" reached its peak: the leaders of the hordes of Zionist immigrants and notorious criminals concurrently called for a law authorizing the killing of Palestinians throwing stones at cars with "Israelis."

    Such information was published by the Zionist publication Maariv. The inspirers of the frankly racist, Palestinian-phobic and nationalist campaign sent this appeal personally to their boss, who has the ability to “deeply and sensitively” understand “settlers,” to Prime Minister Natanyakh (nickname “Baboon”). Booklets telling about the “goals” of the campaign to give out the day before in illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank. On Friday and Saturday they will be distributed in synagogues.

    http://www.palestine-info.co.uk
  24. realstrannik
    realstrannik 14 January 2014 00: 14
    +1
    The campaign about the fictitious Holocaust in the Jewish media was classically promoted in order to create a Jewish nation of Jews, to distract the attention of the world community from the real victims of Jewish politics and to create a situation throughout the world where any criticism of Zionism, its methods and goals would provoke an immediate attack by the world's media (which are almost all controlled by the Jews) and accusations of anti-Semitism.

    Puppeteers and organizers of World Wars have become “victims” who can do anything, and no one has the right not only to oppose their plans to seize power in the world, but even criticize any of their actions when they gradually swallow the world pie! Sharks devour their victims, and victims should not see sharks in them, but only harmless lambs! And the fact that instead of “weed” these “sheep” devour one country after another, robbing the peoples of these countries, this is just a “mirage”! A “mirage”, which “for some reason” turns out to be a reality every time.
  25. realstrannik
    realstrannik 14 January 2014 00: 18
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    Hitler had a plan to destroy part of the "black" Jews, to show the Jews of the whole world "who is the master of the house." And besides, the number of Jews killed by the Nazis from September 1939 to May 1945 amounted to less than three hundred thousand people, which in itself is also a great tragedy, but since 1947 the Jewish press of the world began to literally yell again about the same six million destroyed Jews, about which they tried to shout already after the First World War, publishing this figure of the “annihilated” Jews on October 19, 1919 in the “Jewish Newspaper” of New York.

    And if after the First World War the world community did not react to these false data, then after the Second World War the Jews were smarter and owned most of the media, both in Europe and in the USA. And precisely because of this, they managed to impose on the whole world the myth of the Jewish victims and of the “martyr” people, who suffered the most from the German fascists, who were completely financed by the JEWISH FINANCISTS from the United States, and at the top of the National Socialist party there were many pure Jews , and half-breeds!

    Not to mention the fact that Adolf Schicklgruber (Hitler) himself was a purebred Jew by mother! But that's not all! In the German army there were HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND JEWS, who served in the fascist army in ranks from soldier to full general! And many of them had the highest government awards for their impeccable service to the Third Reich !!
  26. realstrannik
    realstrannik 14 January 2014 00: 21
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    Brian Mark Rigg "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and People of Jewish Descent in the German Army."

    For many, one hundred and fifty thousand does not sound something so significant. But let's not make hasty conclusions. The thing is that this is one hundred and fifty thousand healthy Jewish men of military age. And they have parents, brothers and sisters, grandfathers and grandmothers, and not all of the male Jewish population of Germany were of draft age, and far from all of those who were of draft age were fit for military and navy service due to health reasons ! So, one hundred and fifty thousand soldiers and officers of Jewish origin represent more than a million people of the Jewish population of Germany.

    And this means that almost every Jewish family in Germany had a man who fought on the side of the Nazis, and they are no less than the Germans themselves responsible for the destruction of many millions of people! And, first of all - twenty eight million Soviet people, most of whom were Slavs!


    So, what kind of Holost are the media so screaming so persistently for (which, again, is mostly owned by the Jews), if the only REAL GENOCIDE was arranged precisely by the “RUSSIAN” JEWS after the 1917 revolution, and the fascists continued with the money of the same JEWISH FINANCISTS from the United States of America against the Slavs, mainly Russians ?!

    It was RUSSIA that underwent the JEWISH GENOCIDE, having lost, in total, from seventy to one hundred million people!
  27. realstrannik
    realstrannik 14 January 2014 00: 25
    +1
    And these are real numbers, and not taken from the "ceiling". But about this “for some reason” the Jewish world press is silent, and why should it make a fuss - it's only goyim! Goi, which should be destroyed if they do not submit and do not want to be slaves, and this is clearly indicated by the “holy” book for every Jew - the Torah! The fact that there was no Holocaust was proved by one person who wrote the book “Six million are lost and found,” in which, on the basis of facts and only facts, he proves that there were no six million Jews killed, but only TWENTY FIFTY SIX THOUSANDS dead!

    Richard Harwood "Six Million - Lost and Found."

    Yes, I would also like to note one fact that “for some reason” is stubbornly costing the Jewish press.

    After the outbreak of war between the United States of America and Japan, US authorities threw TWO FIFTY THOUSAND American JAPANESE ORIGIN citizens into concentration camps !!

    All their fault was only that they had Japanese roots. The authorities not only threw these people into the camps, but also confiscated all their property. After the war, all those who survived were released, but no one ever returned the confiscated property to them! Such are the things!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 14 January 2014 01: 32
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      Bravo!
      And now the question is - what does this have to do with the topic of the article? And tell me, have you read the site rules?
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 14 January 2014 16: 18
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        Quote: Pimply
        Bravo!

        This, Eugene, is not even "bravo!" This is already a delirium tremens for the type, over-rested, sick ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 14 January 2014 16: 20
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          Hmm, there’s a diagnosis
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      1. Pimply
        Pimply 14 January 2014 12: 39
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        Quote: Ptah
        This is a famous whiner, he scares everyone, but he himself is afraid of fire like part 5 of article 128.1

        Why would 8)
  28. liquidator
    liquidator April 4 2019 10: 53
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    But what’s interesting to me is that he did not become a general yesterday, which means that similar views also appeared yesterday, the willingness to put his own Poles, there were enough such personnel already in 70-80. How did they overlook it, oh well, our specialists, and where did the Polish KGB psychotherapists look?
  29. Silver
    Silver 2 May 2021 10: 34
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    Yes, kickbacks and kickbacks in gamerope, nowhere without them ...