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Izumo is just a destroyer capable of carrying helicopters - Japanese government

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The new ship of the Japanese Navy under the name Izumo has a deck and is almost the same size as the Sekaku and Dzuikaku aircraft carriers that took part in the attack on the Pearl Harbor base of the US Navy in 1941, but the government insists that it is not an aircraft carrier reports ajw.asahi.com 7 January.


With a length of about 250 m and a standard displacement of 19500 t "Izumo" is the largest ship in the Japanese Navy. 9 helicopters can simultaneously land on its deck. Nevertheless, the Ministry of Defense and the command of the Navy insist that this ship, launched last summer, is “just a destroyer capable of carrying helicopters.” The media in China and South Korea have stated that this “semi-avino carrier” is evidence of a heel to the right of Japan’s foreign policy.

Military journalist Shinichi Kiyotani (Shinichi Kiyotani) said that "in accordance with the international standards of this class of ships, Izumo is an aircraft carrier. The government is afraid to admit this fact, as it fears political consequences. ” Published annually by the authoritative British warship directory, Jane's Fighting Ships classifies this ship as a helicopter carrier. Izumo is to replace the Sirane helicopter carrier with a standard displacement of 5200 tons. The Japanese Navy already has two Hugo and Ise helicopter-carrying destroyers with a standard displacement of more than 10000 tons each. At the construction stage is another ship with the size of "Izumo", which means that the Japanese Navy will have four large ships of this class.

Izumo can be based fighters with a vertical landing, such as the F-35B, but a senior defense official said that "such modernization is possible, but practically impracticable, as it will require a huge amount of time and money, including the purchase of fighters and training the necessary personnel for their operation ".

The former commander of the Japanese Navy Yoji Koda (Yoji Koda) said: "Izumo" is a ship that is fundamentally different from an aircraft carrier. If appropriate conditions arise in the future and a decision is made to build an aircraft carrier, such a ship can be built only after explaining to the public what it is for. ”
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  1. darksidewarrior
    darksidewarrior 13 January 2014 11: 31
    +11
    Yes! Of course, only helicopters! This is generally a container ship! How can the world not understand this?
    Fucking liars.
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 13 January 2014 11: 35
      +2
      Now the states will begin to set Japan on China, slowly supplying weapons ... and here also the conflicts of North and South Korea, large arms sales markets ...
      1. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 13 January 2014 12: 20
        +7
        ShturmKGB
        Now the states will begin to set Japan on China, slowly supplying weapons ... and here also the conflicts of North and South Korea, large arms sales markets ...

        Why bother someone against someone?
        Hatred between China and Japan has long been at genetic levels; it’s already in the blood. And that is a fact.
        1. kirieeleyson
          kirieeleyson 13 January 2014 13: 40
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          the "why" is quite obvious. There are no allies for the United States, there are satellites. In Okinawa, 18% of the territory was given over to 15 American bases, where they tested biological weapons, who are also considering this. The Japanese do absolutely nothing in foreign policy without the prompting of "Uncle Sam", this is also an obvious fact. And for the United States, China is enemy number 1, another "axis of evil" projected on the country's ambition in the APR. According to the Pentagon doctrine, this region is the target for the next 10 years for the United States, 2 + 2 ...
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 13 January 2014 14: 17
            +1
            Quote: kirieeleyson
            the "why" is quite obvious. There are no allies for the United States, there are satellites. In Okinawa, 18% of the territory was given over to 15 American bases, where they tested biological weapons, who are also considering this. The Japanese do absolutely nothing in foreign policy without the prompting of "Uncle Sam", this is also an obvious fact. And for the United States, China is enemy number 1, another "axis of evil" projected on the country's ambition in the APR. According to the Pentagon doctrine, this region is the target for the next 10 years for the United States, 2 + 2 ...

            Each powerful state has satellites, so it has been and will be. Strong rules the world. China for the US enemy number 1? Personally, I have big doubts, it is rather the desire of Russia and absolutely justified. For all the territorial requirements of China to Russia, at the signing of the treaty, were quietly fulfilled by Russia. In China, children are taught in schools that all of Siberia to Lake Baikal is China. China needs resources, it is vital for them, and resources in the North. And therefore, the idea is crushed that in the North their territory and more than one generation will grow up with the firm conviction that this is their land. And then what to do about it?
            And what is Japan for China? This is a dummy, yes there is hatred that has the deepest roots, but there are no resources. And resources are the main thing, this is the basis.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 13 January 2014 20: 40
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          Quote: Vovka Levka
          Hatred between China and Japan has long been at genetic levels; it’s already in the blood. And that is a fact.

          At what such a genetic level? Still alive are those who remember how many Chinese were killed under the bayonets of the Kwantung Army and this was not so long ago!
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 13 January 2014 21: 13
            0
            Quote: APASUS

            At what such a genetic level? Still alive are those who remember how many Chinese were killed under the bayonets of the Kwantung Army and this was not so long ago!

            Yes, this is also a fact, but there are no less facts and earlier periods.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 13 January 2014 13: 06
        0
        ShturmKGB
        Now the states will begin to set Japan on China, slowly supplying weapons ... and here also the conflicts of North and South Korea, large arms sales markets ...


        That never states do not need to set someone on top of each other.
        There, mutual hatred is restrained only by a leisurely eastern mentality.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 January 2014 18: 33
      +1
      Quote: darksidewarrior
      Yes! Of course, only helicopters! This is generally a container ship! How can the world not understand this?
      Fucking liars.

      Why are liars? Of course, I don’t understand much in the affairs of the Navy, but it seems that the internal structure of the helicopter carrier and the aircraft carrier should be seriously different, starting from hangars, elevators and the whole system of servicing these machines is different, so really, without a serious internal restructuring, the aircraft carrier will not work out of this ship.
      1. skiff-xnumx
        skiff-xnumx 13 January 2014 22: 57
        +2
        With such a length on the flight deck? Are you joking? Too lazy to look for the dimensions of the hangar and the lifting capacity of the elevators, but if the size and weight of 35 passes then this is not a classic but an aircraft carrier. Find the data and answer your own question. The rest, though problems, can be solved with relatively minimal expenses.
    3. de klermon
      de klermon 14 January 2014 02: 10
      +2
      Interestingly, where is the indignant note of the State Department with the expression of deep concern about the imbalance in the region? Although ... The ship is not Russian and not Chinese ...
      PS I imagine that I feel the souls of ordinary American guys now: sailors from Pearl Harbor, pilots, whose liver, still warm and in sweat, was eaten by a raw samurai to take away the strength of the enemy ...
      Yankees, you didn't forget the Tokyo process too fast ?! !!
      For you, he is more terrible than the Nürjerg! ..
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  3. darksidewarrior
    darksidewarrior 13 January 2014 11: 35
    +4
    Maybe this is not a ship, but a steam locomotive? It just looks like a ship, but the fact that it keeps afloat, it happened by chance, a very high-quality locomotive from Japan. That's all. And there is nothing to be afraid of either Koreans or Chinese.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 13 January 2014 13: 12
      -3
      This is really not an aircraft carrier, there are no anti-ship missiles on the aircraft carrier, there are on the Izumo. Why do you need it? Well, look at the economic zone of Japan
      1. Akhtuba73
        Akhtuba73 13 January 2014 13: 29
        +6
        Judging by the picture that the Japanese painted, the Kuril Islands already them? Do not fantasize fantasized?
        1. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 13 January 2014 14: 04
          -11%
          So it seems that negotiations are underway on the transfer
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 13 January 2014 14: 57
            +4
            transfer kurill japan ??? what nonsense? what negotiations? there can be no talk of transmission.
            1. 31231
              31231 13 January 2014 19: 58
              +2
              Personally, Kibalchish has already leaked the Kuril Islands to the powerful imperial fleet of Jopandria.
        2. Saburo
          Saburo 13 January 2014 17: 39
          +2
          On Japanese maps, the South Kuril Islands are always painted over with their color. We cannot forbid them to do this.

          But negotiations on the transfer are not going on. But at least Putin promised Abe that the dispute with the islands would be desirable to complete mutually beneficial for both parties, without winners and losers. It is not clear what this means, the creation of any special economic zones there, or some special territorial status. Someone said that it means that we will give only Iturup, and the other two islands will be ours and then the strait will remain ours, as it were, but it sounds unrealistic. In any case, so far no official statements have been made.
          1. Kyrgyz
            Kyrgyz 13 January 2014 18: 44
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            Quote: Saburo
            But negotiations on the transfer are not going on. But at least Putin promised Abe that the dispute with the islands would be desirable to complete mutually beneficial for both parties, without winners and losers. It is unclear what this means.

            laughing because nothing is signed
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 13 January 2014 16: 18
        +4
        Quote: Kibalchish
        there are no anti-ship missiles on the aircraft carrier

        rave.
        On Kuznetsovo there is "Granit". This is just an anti-ship missile. It turns out that Kuznetsov is not an Aircraft Carrier, or are you still mistaken?
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  5. avt
    avt 13 January 2014 11: 37
    +8
    ,, is "just a destroyer capable of carrying helicopters." "-------- laughingWell, in the USSR, they built "just cruisers" capable of carrying airplanes. ”Here is one that still runs here.
  6. darksidewarrior
    darksidewarrior 13 January 2014 11: 40
    +3
    I probably missed somewhere the news about Japan’s permission to have offensive weapons. Please explain who is in the know.
    From SW.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 13 January 2014 12: 21
      +4
      Quote: darksidewarrior
      I probably missed somewhere the news about Japan’s permission to have offensive weapons. Please explain who is in the know.
      From SW.


      There is no such news, you can only "pretend to be" to build an aircraft carrier, and to paint the whole world - we have such a helicopter carrier. Ours did so to pass the "special" straits called small aircraft carriers - aircraft-carrying cruisers
    2. Saburo
      Saburo 13 January 2014 17: 50
      +1
      Quote: darksidewarrior
      I probably missed somewhere the news about Japan’s permission to have offensive weapons.


      Japan has long ceased to look at Article 9, which essentially prohibits having armed forces as such.
      For example, in the arsenal of the Maritime Self-Defense Forces there is such a thing as an Osumi-class landing ship dock. And already three pieces. But they are not for landing on an unprepared coast, they are for the rapid delivery of humanitarian aid to remote regions.

  7. da113
    da113 13 January 2014 11: 57
    0
    The Japanese are clearly helping the Americans, since building up forces against China in Asia and Russia in the Antarctic is problematic for them!
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 13 January 2014 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: da113
      The Japanese are clearly helping the Americans, since building up forces against China in Asia and Russia in the Antarctic is problematic for them!


      1. Not the fact that this is help to the Americans.
      Rather, the desire to have their own tool to protect maritime communications is independent of the United States (which, although an ally, will always act out of their interests).
      Well, it’s possible ... the restoration of the experience of building aircraft carriers (the next series, for sure, will be even larger and the deck was originally adapted for the F-35).

      2. I do not think that the US Navy sees it as a threat that our shipbuilding program needs to fend off.
      Our fleet is not strengthening ... there is really a replenishment of what was cut in the 2000s. Moreover, in the Arctic - the main warship is a submarine, the number of which we seem to be gradually decreasing.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 13 January 2014 13: 38
        0
        Moreover, the replacement with new cables in our fleet is clearly not equivalent to the cut
  8. makarov
    makarov 13 January 2014 12: 23
    +4
    Yeah! I immediately remember how the Germans before the war, Tirpitz justified, almost a cruise ship.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 13 January 2014 12: 51
      0
      Yeah, and on board tourists in uniform.
  9. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 13 January 2014 12: 57
    -4
    In modern realities, it is not only useless, but also harmful to small countries such as Japan: it is difficult to predict who will win and whether there will be a winner in the conflict between the United States, China, Russia, but if Japan is drawn into it, there will not be only a country as such , but also islands and people (there are not so many Japanese outside the country itself).
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 13 January 2014 13: 21
      +5
      Quote: HollyGremlin
      In modern realities, to such small countries as Japan

      laughing

      fool
      1. avg
        avg 13 January 2014 14: 39
        0
        Ui-yu-yu !!! What a pity the little Japanese crying
    2. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 13 January 2014 13: 22
      +1
      According to your idiotic logic, Russia also needs to destroy the army and navy, leaving only rockets. X ... whether, all the same, a nuclear war and an end to all.
    3. alone
      alone 13 January 2014 22: 07
      0
      Quote: HollyGremlin
      In modern realities, such small countries as Japan have weapons not only useless, but also harmful:
      belay

      nifiga yourself small)) the third economy in the world!
  10. mountain
    mountain 13 January 2014 13: 18
    0
    Yes, it is clear that this is not a strategic ship, but just a platform, afloat. Otherwise, the world community, in theory, should be outraged. If at all there is this community. repeat
  11. avg
    avg 13 January 2014 14: 52
    +1
    Yes, we are already accustomed and know for sure:
    The USA is a beacon of democracy;
    Europe - really cares about our rights;
    ABM is against Iran and North Korea;
    Izumo - well, he's such a destroyer;
    Japan is the most peaceful country ...

    I believe everyone, but I prefer to keep the gun loaded wink
  12. Tourist Breakfast
    Tourist Breakfast 13 January 2014 14: 57
    0
    In order to classify a ship as an aircraft carrier, it's probably not just about size. The question is whether the Izumo has the appropriate equipment for taking off and landing aircraft. This topic is not covered in the article.
    1. avg
      avg 13 January 2014 15: 50
      +1
      Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
      In order to classify a ship as an aircraft carrier, it is probably not just a matter of size.

      Right The Japanese do not bother with this, they have everything that is not a submarine, then a destroyer. smile
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 13 January 2014 19: 04
      +1
      The role here is played by the ability of the flight deck to support a certain weight and dimensions of the elevators. Considering the well-sooo great cunning of the Japanese in naming objects and their classification, I am inclined to assume that they will withstand GDP aircraft. Well, the destroyer cannot be 250 meters long and almost 20000 tons of displacement. "Peter the Great" is 250 meters long and 23000 tons of displacement. Maybe we should call him a destroyer?
      1. Tourist Breakfast
        Tourist Breakfast 13 January 2014 22: 07
        -2
        I am inclined to assume that they will withstand the aircraft of GDP.

        Do they have them, these planes of GDP?
  13. propolsky
    propolsky 13 January 2014 15: 04
    0
    Bricks are being laid for the future hotbed of tension, and possibly a local conflict between China and Japan, plus two Koreas - it will not seem a little! Islands and bodies of water are already being privatized or recorded in the sphere of economic interests. The world begins to divide the world's oceans. The previous carve-up of "land" turned into two world wars ...
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 13 January 2014 15: 15
      +1
      This is more likely against China, especially given the recent conflict over the Senkaku-Diaoyudao Islands, which has not yet been resolved:

      Japanese Coast Guard ships detain Chinese ship off disputed islands
      However, the Chinese pay the Japanese with the same coin:



      urinal at a chinese restaurant in harbin
  14. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 13 January 2014 15: 15
    +2
    "Iskander" is also just a BEAUTIFUL CAR laughing
    1. Gato
      Gato 13 January 2014 19: 06
      0
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      "Iskander" is also just a BEAUTIFUL CAR

      For festive fireworks laughing
  15. tlauicol
    tlauicol 13 January 2014 15: 23
    0
    If desired, the Japanese can point us to double standards - the Bosphorus, Dardanelles and the Black Sea are closed territories for aircraft carriers, but we built them, calling them "aircraft-carrying cruisers." It is better not to stir this topic, otherwise they will attack, the islands will still be remembered - in short, they will raise the stench
    1. avg
      avg 13 January 2014 16: 09
      0
      Quote: Tlauicol
      The Bosphorus, Dardanelles and the Black Sea are closed territories for aircraft carriers, but we built them, calling them "aircraft carrying cruisers."

      Write about what you know.
      The order of passage through the Black Sea straits of warships is regulated by Articles 8-22 of the Montreux Convention. From appendix IV to the Convention on the regime of straits, it can be seen that ships of any class (i.e., aircraft carriers) can be in the fleets of the Black Sea states. At the time of passage of the straits, it is forbidden to perform flights of aircraft on board ships.
      Non-Black Sea countries are allowed to navigate through straits into the Black Sea only light surface ships and auxiliary vessels with a displacement of one ship of not more than 10000 tons. The total displacement of the detachment of ships at the time of passage of the straits should not exceed 15000 tons. and their passage is permitted only in the daytime. Non-Black Sea states are not entitled to introduce aircraft carriers and submarines into the Black Sea. The total tonnage of the squadron of warships of non-Black Sea countries located in the Black Sea should not exceed 45000 tons. The time spent on the Black Sea by a detachment of warships of non-Black Sea countries should not exceed 21 days.
  16. moremansf
    moremansf 13 January 2014 17: 42
    0
    Sly Japanese philosophy - do not believe your eyes, but believe your ears ...
    Formally, being a destroyer, in fact, the Hyuuga is a light aircraft carrier or a universal landing ship. In fact, this is the first aircraft carrier built by Japan since the Second World War. The official classification as a destroyer helicopter carrier does not correspond to the real combat capabilities of the ship. The ship is significantly larger in displacement than the destroyers of the previous types, has a continuous flight deck and a relatively large air group, which allows it to be classified as a light aircraft carrier. Helicopters and aircraft with vertical and short take-off and landing of the AV-8B Harrier II and F-35 Lightning II types can be based on the ship. It is technically possible to equip the ship with a bow springboard to increase the combat load of aircraft. The main task of the ship is anti-submarine defense, as well as the function of the flagship.
  17. 120352
    120352 13 January 2014 18: 11
    0
    The same Mistral, only against our Mistral. But they have aircraft carriers, and we don’t even have plans! Compare the weapons, speed and range of the aircraft and helicopter and see, in a first approximation, the difference in their combat effectiveness.
  18. Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 18: 37
    0
    Wow destroyers have grown ... But what then will they call the cruiser?