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Flying one way. Kamikaze's destructive power

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“Today, the fate of our country is in my hands. We are the defenders of our country. You can forget me when I am gone, but please live better than you lived before. Do not worry and do not be disheartened. "
- From the farewell letter ml. Lieutenant Shunsuke Tomiyasu.

Kamikaze, of course, heroes. Self-sacrifice has been valued at all times by all nations of the world. But what is the peculiarity of the “divine wind” phenomenon? Why do not ridicule the Japanese "zombies" who, in impotent rage, beat their heads about armor? What was the difference between kamikazes and Russian, European and American pilots who committed suicide ram?

Captain Gastello, who sent the wrecked car to the enemy’s mechanized convoy, or Captain Fleming, ramming the Japanese cruiser Mikuma on a burning bomber — these heroes had hoped to survive until the last minutes. The suicide ram was their last, spontaneous decision in a hopeless situation.

Unlike Gastello, the Japanese pilots sentenced themselves to death in advance and lived with this sensation for long months. Repeating something like that, having a Russian upbringing, seems completely impossible. Everyone knows that there are situations in war when you have to risk and even sacrifice your life - but in advance to condemn yourself to the fate of a “living bomb” and a “walking corpse” ... The Bushido code says: a samurai should prepare for death every day. No doubt we will all die someday. But why think about it every minute?

At kamikaze, the last sortie turned into an exquisite death ritual with bows, white “hachimaki” armbands and a ritual cup of sake. For the emperor and the sacred land of Yamato!

A separate question to the Japanese leadership: in contrast to the fanatical young pilots, these wise Lao Tzu knew the situation at the front perfectly. Even the biggest optimists could not have been unaware that by 1944, the war had been smashed to smithereens. So why was to ruin the “color of the nation” in useless suicidal attacks ?! In order to delay the hour of reckoning and save their own skin, throwing the young generation of their country into the furnace?

Despite the discrepancies in the estimates of the moral component of the actions of “kamikaze” and some shocking details of the training of suicide pilots, do not forget about the main thing - это было WEAPONS. A powerful cruise missile is a prototype of modern "Harpoons" and "Granites", equipped with the most reliable and perfect guidance system - a living person.

Of greatest interest is the performance of the "Corps of special attacks." How many ships were sunk? What damage could the kamikaze pilots do to the enemy?

Americans prefer not to focus on this issue, telling contradictory storiespulled out of the general context of events. When asked about overall statistics, a list of 47 ... 57 sunk ships is usually given. The differences are caused by three main reasons:

1. Suicide attacks were practiced not only by pilots of the “Special Attack Corps”: it was not easy, and sometimes impossible, to distinguish the “real” kamikaze from the Air Force bomber, whose crew decided to repeat the feat of Gastello.

An example is the death of the destroyer "Twiggs." 16 June 1945, the ship was attacked by a single torpedo bomber. The plane dropped a torpedo that hit the port side, then described a circle and crashed into a doomed destroyer. Was it the work of kamikazes or pilots from combat units? The question remained unanswered. Destroyer "Twiggs" sank.


Damaged destroyer


2. The attacked ships did not always sink immediately. Often they needed "help" in the form of a torpedo and a dozen five-inch shots at the waterline. The mortally wounded ship was finished off by nearby US Navy destroyers - which means it’s a reason to exclude the loss from the list of kamikaze victims.

An example is the destroyer Kolhoun. 6 April 1945. He was rammed by a Japanese plane, and subsequently finished off with a destroyer "Kessin Yang".

3. Attacked ships did not always sink in the same place. Taking advantage of their numerical superiority and weakness of the enemy, the Yankees towed the charred ruins to Pearl Harbor or to the nearest shore, and then used what was left of the ships in the interests of the national economy. Of course, such “wounded animals” were not included in the official list of losses.

examples:
Destroyer "Morris" - damaged kamikaze at about. Okinawa towed to USA. Due to the unreasonableness of the repair, he was excluded from the lists of the Navy and was cut into metal.

PC-1603 Submarine Hunter - Kamikaze rammed, towed to shore. Subsequently, its hull was used to construct a breakwater on the Japanese island of Kerama.

Escort destroyer "Oberrender" - Kamikaze rammed, towed to the United States. Not recovered. Sunk as a target in November 1945 year.

In total, among the large losses from the actions of Japanese suicide pilots are 4 escort aircraft carriers and 24 destroyer. Destroyer kids more often than others were hit - first, there were a lot of them. Secondly, they provided radar patrols on the most dangerous routes.

The rest of the losses list sounds like a mockery of a kamikaze: an escort destroyer, six high-speed Navy transports (converted from obsolete destroyers), two dozen landing craft, a hospital ship, a floating dock, a tanker, and several small boats and hunters ...

No heavy aircraft carrier, cruiser or battleship!

At first glance, it may seem that 3913 kamikaze pilots died for nothing - loud world fame with such useless results. The desperate courage of the Japanese guys was powerless against combat air patrols and anti-aircraft guns with automated radar guidance.
But, blind faith to official American sources is a thankless task. The reality was much more serious.

Large ships are known to have a large buoyancy margin and little susceptibility to damage above the waterline. Hitting bombs, missiles or suicide ram “Zero” can not cause them critical damage.

But this did not prevent the American ships from fading to ashes and losing several hundred people from their crew. In such circumstances, the most fair criterion for the success of an attack becomes damage.
Alas, the official historiography bypasses this issue side.

Flying one way. Kamikaze's destructive power

Kamikaze strike in the battleship "Maryland." At that time, 25 in November 1944, the damage was significant - the GK tower was damaged, the sailor died 31


Indeed, whose case turned out to be harder: the sinking of the Abner Reed destroyer (1 in November 1944, 22 killed a sailor as a result of the incident) or the second damage to the aircraft carrier Intrepid (in November 25 1944, the ship lost 65 crew members and completely lost combat capability)? .. Hard to say.

More than half of the US Navy warships in the Pacific theater had “scars” and “marks” after meeting with the kamikazes. Often - repeated. Only in the course of the Battle of Okinawa, kamikazes sank 26 of enemy ships and damaged 225, incl. 27 aircraft carriers!

The results of the attacks are impressive.

Spring 45 year

Their rage knew no bounds. With frenzied perseverance, the Japanese set off on their last flight to crash into the sea with a meteorite or onto the deck of an enemy ship — as lucky as they could be. The gusts of the “divine wind” subsided and amplified again, filling the air with surrealistic horror and the stench of grave decay. The water was boiling, the barrels of the anti-aircraft guns were heated, and the kamikazes all went and went to give their lives for the great Nippon.

The greatest intensity of suicide attacks was noted during the landing on Okinawa. At that time, the Japanese had to defend their own territory - everything that could fly was thrown into the attack: new and battered Zero, Oka rocket planes, single and twin-engine bombers, seaplanes, training aircraft ...

In just one day, April 6 1945, the American fleet lost six squadrons of destroyers from kamikaze attacks! The 7 of April damaged the battleship Maryland and the heavy aircraft carrier Hancock. The battleship, having lost 10 anti-aircraft gunners on the upper deck, still managed to hold out for a week in position, firing on the shore and repelling countless suicide attacks. The aircraft carrier with a twisted deck had to be immediately sent for repair in the US (the fire broke out was succeeded in extinguishing the cost of killing 62 seafarers, another 72 were injured and burned).

16 April 1945 was damaged (for the fourth time!) The aircraft carrier Intrepid - by luck, the damage was small, the crew was able to restore the ship’s combat capability in just three hours. However, the very next day, Intrepid was forced to redeem in San Francisco.


Explosion on the aircraft carrier "Enterprise"



Saratoga is on fire - three kamikaze attacks resulted in the loss of an X-wing wing aircraft, the entire nose section was destroyed, the sailor's 36 died


It is not often said that the combat career of the hero of the battle of Midway - the glorious aircraft carrier Enterprise, suddenly ended after a couple of meetings with the kamikaze. And if the first attack (April 11) was relatively easy for the ship, the second (May 14) turned out to be fatal - the Zero, controlled by ml. Lieutenant Shunsuke Tomiyasu (thus, whose letter was quoted at the beginning of the article), broke through the wall of anti-aircraft fire and broke through several decks at full speed. There was a deafening internal explosion on the ship - the nose lift vomited and threw up 200 meters. The Enterprise remained in repair until the end of the war and was never used again as an aircraft carrier.

Bunker Hill was the worst hit - on May 11, 1945, as a result of two kamikaze attacks, the newest heavy aircraft carrier lost speed, combat effectiveness, buoyancy and lost all hope of salvation. 80 planes and about 400 crew members burned in the fire. The squadron command considered the issue of forced flooding of the ship. It was only the absence of new enemy attacks and the presence of dozens of US Navy ships nearby that made it possible to save and tow the charred ruin to their native shores - Bunker Hill was partially repaired after the war, but was never used for its intended purpose. In 1947 he was forever expelled from the current membership. fleet.

These cases are the true meaning of the kamikaze legend - alas, reputable experts on the other side of the ocean prefer to tell the 47 tale of drowned vehicles, destroyers and patrol boats. The real consequences of powerful attacks go as if out of the list of losses - the ship did not sink? Not. So everything is ok.

A lot of painful scars and marks left on the decks of cruisers. The planes did not manage to sink a single armored monster, but every time it ended up with major damage, fires and corrupted armored forms.


Last dive. Target - the cruiser "Columbia"




In January, the cruiser Columbia (the newest one, such as Cleveland) was seriously damaged by 1945 - the whole fodder group of artillery GK was damaged as a result of two kamikaze attacks, 39 people died, more than 100 found themselves in the infirmary. However, thanks to its resilience and high survivability, the cruiser continued to perform tasks in the combat zone.

At about the same time in the Lingen Bay under a double ram attack hit the "Louisville" - a cruiser of the "Washington period" with a weakened booking. Cruiser needed factory repair, but after a couple of months he returned to service. In total, as a result of that attack, the 41 seaman was killed, incl. Rear Admiral T. Chandler - there is a legend that a heavily burned commander refused his privileges and took his place in the general queue in the operating room.


The moment of the explosion on the cruiser "Louisville"


Despite the tragic undercurrent, the kamikaze story knows a couple of amazing and even funny episodes - for example, an incredible incident that happened on 12 on April 1945 on April with the destroyer Stanley. During the radar patrol, the destroyer was pierced through with the Oka jet aircraft. According to the crew members, the Oka hit the ship at speeds above 500 miles per hour (900 km / h). Part of the wreckage of the rocket glider got stuck in the hull, but the combat unit weighing 1200 kg flew from the opposite side and fell into the water. No one except the Japanese pilot was hurt.

Another unusual story happened to the Devilfish submarine - it became the only submarine attacked by a kamikaze. "Devilfish" escaped with a destroyed logging fence and a leak in a solid hull. Independently returned to base.

The circle of kamikaze victims was not limited to the US Navy — any ship in the combat zone was hit. The first victim of the kamikaze is considered not the American ship, but the flagship of the Australian Navy — the cruiser Australia (October 21 of the year 1944). After returning to repair, Australia was hit by a Japanese plane again, and just a day later, on 6 in January of 1945, it underwent the third attack! But it was not yet the limit - on January X, the Australians had to fight off the kamikaze again (one of the bombs dropped from the crashed plane ricocheted from the water and made a hole in the side of the cruiser). The next day, January 8, the “Australia” add-on rammed the fourth Japanese kamikaze. Despite the extensive damage and the death of fifty people crew, "Australia" was able to stay afloat and after a short repair went under its own power to upgrade to the UK.

By the way, about the British. Her Majesty's fleet sent to Okinawa, to the aid of the Yankees, a whole grouping of warships, incl. heavy aircraft carriers with an armored deck - Victorias, Ilustries, Indomitable, Fomideble and Indifetiable. It is not difficult to guess what happened to these ships.


Debris on the HMS Formidable deck. From the powerful shaking, the steam power plant burst, the speed dropped, the radars went out of order - in the midst of the battle the ship lost its combat capability


The presence of armored flight made it easier for them to transfer meetings from kamikazes, dents were quickly poured with cement - but it was impossible to completely prevent catastrophic consequences.
Each ram ended with a grand fire on the upper deck, completely destroying aircraft that was parked there, and streams of burning gasoline somehow got into the hangar, where the fiery hell began. By the beginning of May, on board the order of the burnt "Fomidebl", only 15 operational aircraft remained!

It is known at least two meetings with the kamikaze of our seamen - 18 August 1945, on the approach to Vladivostok, the tanker Taganrog was attacked - the anti-aircraft gunners managed to repel the attack, the wreckage of the aircraft fell into the sea. On the same day, in the area of ​​Shumshu Island (Kuril ridge), a kamikaze was rammed by the minesweeper KT-152 (formerly fishing boat with a displacement of 62 tons). A Soviet minesweeper with a crew in 17 was the last person on the list of victims of the Special Attack Corps (Tokubetsu Kogokitai).

Epilogue

Did they have a chance to save Japan from defeat? Would the kamikaze stop the enemy by defeating his fleet? The answer is no. The forces were too unequal.

The Japanese pilots inflicted terrible damage on the Allies. Not a single fleet in the world could resist the "divine wind." None other than the US Navy. Off the coast of Okinawa, the Yankees engaged a grouping of 1000 warships and support vessels, which were constantly updated on a rotational basis. Japanese courage was powerless in front of such power. The place of damaged ships was immediately occupied by new ones - sometimes even more powerful and sophisticated than those who crawled away for repairs.

The story of the kamikaze is still of considerable interest. In addition to the mass heroism of the Japanese pilots, suicidal ramments have become a formidable harbinger of a new type of weapon - anti-ship cruise missiles. The Philippines and Okinawa turned into a magnificent training ground, where the capabilities of such "ammunition" were demonstrated in real combat conditions. The accumulated statistical material will make it possible to judge with certainty the destructive effects of “winged projectiles” and the consequences of their entry into the ship. This is a direct answer to the question of what class of ships turned out to be the most stable and tenacious when striking the surface of the hull, as well as on measures to protect and minimize combat damage.


Salvage cruiser "Australia"



Bunker Hill Flames



The aircraft carrier "Intrepid" big problems with the flight deck



The explosion of the escort aircraft carrier "St. Lo". Ship lost



Under attack hit the British "Victoria"



Wreckage of Junior Lieutenant Tomiyas, found during the repair of the Enterprise.
Currently stored in the Kanoi air base museum


Based on:
http://www.navweaps.com
http://www.history.army.mil
http://www.wikipedia.org
http://www.navsource.org
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 13 January 2014 09: 37
    +44
    Why don’t the mockery of the Japanese “zombies”, which, in impotent rage, banged their heads on the armor, subside?
    Because they lost. If they were winners, their names would be called streets and squares in the cities of Japan. In any case, people who knowingly go to death for their country deserve respect. hi
    1. Nexus 6
      Nexus 6 13 January 2014 10: 25
      +1
      Not always "deliberately going to death." In army kamikaze units, sometimes things were different ... There are several cases when kamikaze attacked their own command post in protest. "Facts in the studio" - and I have these specific facts request
      1. badger1974
        badger1974 13 January 2014 11: 33
        +1
        there were returns for various reasons, but there were no attacks of their own ships, this is a lie
        1. Nexus 6
          Nexus 6 13 January 2014 12: 07
          +4
          I hope you will not argue that the lie is that far from always kamikazes were volunteers? And KP is not a ship)
          1. badger1974
            badger1974 14 January 2014 18: 27
            0
            no, I won’t, because the military-liable person has nowhere to go, the order must be executed and then appealed, maybe in Europepedia and Anglo-Saxony it’s not so, but in ex-SA this is still the case, and as for attacks on the CP, I reiterate on the worn-out anything could happen to cars and regard it as an attack in any way, get into a car with a steering bar broken in shit and ride on auto-stressed sections of the road, kamikaze will stick immediately, it was on such shit that they went to the BZ
        2. Nexus 6
          Nexus 6 13 January 2014 12: 28
          0
          "There is at least one known case where a kamikaze who was forced to fly into a suicidal attack rammed his own command post in despair and anger." Yuri G. Ivanov Kamikaze. Suicide pilots.
          This story is not a concrete fact, which I wrote about.
          1. badger1974
            badger1974 13 January 2014 23: 21
            0
            I don't know where Yu. Ivanov got such facts, but in the work of Horikoshi and the designer Okumiya "Japanese aviation in the second world" there were no such cases, and this work is almost a textbook, especially edited by Mike Kaidin, who is known for his greed for provocations and "rethinking" of any kind of military operations
            1. Nexus 6
              Nexus 6 14 January 2014 01: 43
              0
              The topic of Kamikaze U Horikoshi and Okumiya is revealed in the general framework of the book "Japanese Aviation in the Second World War." And the Japanese themselves would hardly have once again mentioned such a shame (but this is my speculation). Ivanov's book is entirely devoted to kamikaze, it contains more details. I looked for confirmation on the Internet, but sometimes he (the Internet) is such a dump ... By the way, the Russian preface to "Japanese Aviation", as far as I remember, makes this work more soberly perceived.
              1. badger1974
                badger1974 14 January 2014 18: 38
                0
                undoubtedly, however, one should also take into account the fact of undercover fuss in the main command of japa, it could be that Yamamoto was stupidly "leaked" about his movements, everything just worked out well - there was no cover and "suitcases" lightning appeared which themselves needed cover, much to disappointment earlier if it was necessary to do this, the stupid command would have left earlier, however, it would have been more difficult with the Kvaktuns
    2. GastaClaus69
      GastaClaus69 13 January 2014 18: 10
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      In any case, people who knowingly go to death for their country deserve respect.

      "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
      “Sweet and beautiful death for the motherland”
      Quintus Horace Flaccus
    3. Ramses_IV
      Ramses_IV 15 January 2014 10: 54
      0
      Despite this, the survivors (i.e. prepared, but did not commit BV or returned to the base because they did not find a target) kamikaze after the war in Japan did not enjoy the respect of society. Probably, at home they were looked upon as "traitors" or something, who were not able to turn the tide of the war in the Pacific. And this is still somehow unfair in my opinion.
  2. Trailer
    Trailer 13 January 2014 09: 49
    +9
    Only during the battle for Okinawa, the kamikaze sank the enemy’s 26 ships and damaged the 225, including 27 aircraft carriers! Yes, how many of them do they have?
    1. Shogun23
      Shogun23 13 January 2014 10: 57
      +8
      Aircraft carriers of the "Essex" type - 17 + 9 units were built
      Light aircraft carriers of the "Independence" class - 9 units
      Aircraft carrier "Wasp" - 1 unit
      Aircraft carriers of the "Yorktown" class - 3 units
      Aircraft carrier "Ranger" - 1 unit
      Aircraft carriers of the "Lexington" type - 2 units
      Escort aircraft carriers of the "Commencement Bay" class - 10 + 13 units were built
      Escort aircraft carriers of the "Casablanca" class - 50 (!) Units
      Escort aircraft carriers of "Sangamon" class - 4 units
      Escort aircraft carriers of the "Bogue" class - 11 units
      Escort aircraft carrier "Charger" - 1 unit
      Escort aircraft carrier "Long Island" - 1 unit
      Total 110 aircraft carriers + 22 under construction
      1. Santa Fe
        13 January 2014 13: 43
        +2
        Quote: Shogun23
        Escort aircraft carriers of the "Bogue" class - 11 units

        A total of 45 Baughs were built, of which 34 Yankees were lend-leased to the British Navy
        1. Shogun23
          Shogun23 13 January 2014 14: 25
          +2
          Well, so I wrote about those that were in service with the US Navy, and building ships for other countries is a common practice, especially for the United States (remember at least "Varyag" or "Retvizan", for the Russian Empire)
    2. Shogun23
      Shogun23 14 January 2014 00: 12
      +2
      By the way, here are the data of the "meetings" of kamikaze and US aircraft carriers

      U.S. Navy aircraft carriers that died in battles (the death toll from kamikaze attacks is marked with a sign (!))

      СVL-23 "Princeton" Killed on 24
      CV-7 "Wasp" Killed 15.9.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX
      CV-5 "Yorktown" NN Killed 7.6.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX
      CV-8 "Hornet" NN Killed 24.10.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX
      CV-2 "Lexington" Killed 8.5.1942
      CVE-56 "Liscome Bay" Killed 24.11.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX
      CVE-63 "St. Lo" Killed 25.10.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX (!)
      CVE-73 "Gambler Bay" Killed 25.10.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX
      CVE-79 "Ommaney Bay" Killed 4.1.1945 (!)
      CVE-95 "Bismarck Sea" Killed 21 (!)
      CVE-21 "Block Island" Killed 29


      U.S. Navy aircraft carriers attacked by kamikaze

      CV-3 "Saratoga" 21.02.45. 3 attacks + 2 bombs, after 2 hours another 1 bomb and 1 attack. 132 killed, 192 wounded.

      CV-6 "Enterprise" 14.05.45/12/35. 64 killed, XNUMX-XNUMX wounded.

      CV-9 "Essex" 25.11.1944/15/44. killed XNUMX, wounded XNUMX.

      CV-11 "Intrepid" 30.10.1944/10/6. 25.11.44 killed, 2 wounded; 5/69/85. 18.03.45 attacks within 2 minutes - 43 killed, 16.04.45 wounded; 8/12/XNUMX. explosion of an aircraft at the side - XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded; XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. - XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded;

      CV-13 "Franklin" 30.10.44/2/56. 60 attacks, XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded.

      CV-14 "Ticonderoga" 21.01.45. 2 (according to some sources 4) attacks. 143 killed, 202 injured.

      CV-15 "Randolph" 11.03.45/27/105. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded

      CV-16 "Lexington". 5.11.44. 50 killed, 132 wounded.

      CV-17 "Bunker Hill" 11.05.45/2/389. 43 attacks within a minute, 264 killed (XNUMX of them were missing) XNUMX injured.

      CV-19 "Hancock" 25.11.44/15/7.04.45. 62 killed, several wounded; 71. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded.

      CVL-24 "Belleau Wood" 30.10.44/92/97. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded

      CVL-28 "Cabot" 25.11.44/1/2. 35 (sometimes considered 27) attack, XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded.

      CVE-26 "Sangamon" 25.10.44/4.05.45/26. no losses. 21. XNUMX killed, XNUMX injured

      CVE-27 "Suwannee" 25.10.44/3/7. 26.11.44 killed, 104 wounded, 153/XNUMX/XNUMX, XNUMX killed XNUMX wounded.

      CVE-29 "Santee" 25.10.44/16/27. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded

      CVE-61 "Manila Bay" 5.01.45/14/52. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded

      CVE-62 "Natoma Bay" 7.06.45/1/4. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded

      CVE-63 "St. Lo" 25.10.44/143/XNUMX. XNUMX were killed, a large number of wounded, the ship sank.

      CVE-65 "Wake Island" 3.04.45/2/XNUMX. XNUMX attacks, no losses.

      CVE-66 White Plains 25.10.44. 11 injured

      CVE-68 "Kalinin Bay" 25.10.44. 2 attacks. 5 killed, 55 wounded

      CVE-71 Kitkun Bay 25.10.44/1/16. 8.01.45 killed, 5 wounded; 16. kamikaze attack and "friendly" 37 "shell. XNUMX killed, XNUMX wounded

      CVE-76 "Kadashan Bay" 8.01.45/3/XNUMX. XNUMX wounded.

      CVE-77 Marcus Island 15.12.44/2/1. 7 kamikaze fell next to the aircraft carrier. XNUMX killed, XNUMX injured

      CVE-78 "Savo Island" 5.01.45/XNUMX/XNUMX. no losses.

      CVE-79 "Ommaney Bay" 4.01.45/93/XNUMX. XNUMX dead, many injured, ship sank

      CVE-80 "Petrof Bay" 25.10.44. no losses.

      CVE-94 "Lunga Point" 21.02.45. no losses.

      CVE-95 "Bismarck Sea" 21.02.45. 2 attacks, 318 killed, many injured

      CVE-96 "Salamaua" 13.01.45/15/80. XNUMX killed, about XNUMX wounded.
  3. ism_ek
    ism_ek 13 January 2014 09: 55
    +8
    Even the greatest optimists could not have known that by 1944 the war had been shattered. So why was it to ruin the "color of the nation" in useless suicidal attacks ?!

    Japan's surrender conditions were very different from German surrender. On the example of tiny Okinawa, Americans were shown that it is better not to meddle in Japan. In fact, the same people remained in power in Japan.

    Based on simple statistics, kamikaze saved the lives of other pilots. After attacking a well-defended ship, at least 50% of the pilots did not return.
  4. Anubis
    Anubis 13 January 2014 09: 59
    +3
    "Rubble on the HMS Formidable deck" Photo. I don't even understand why there is a white flag with a dark circle on the deck superstructure belay
    1. ICT
      ICT 13 January 2014 10: 22
      +2
      possible answer "I am altering my course to the left"
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 13 January 2014 11: 08
      0
      Military trick? what
      1. Santa Fe
        13 January 2014 13: 45
        +5
        Quote: ANUBIS
        I don’t understand why there is a white flag with a dark circle on the deck superstructure
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  6. Nexus 6
    Nexus 6 13 January 2014 10: 13
    +5

    Simpu Tokubatsu Kogekitai
    1. cumastra1
      cumastra1 13 January 2014 18: 48
      +1
      That's for sure from the shells in the sky closely.
    2. cumastra1
      cumastra1 13 January 2014 18: 48
      0
      That's for sure from the shells in the sky closely.
      1. Nexus 6
        Nexus 6 13 January 2014 19: 32
        +1
        Yes, the wrong word. In one of the books on the subject, I read about a recorded case when an MZA shell hit a falling bomb.
  7. ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 13 January 2014 10: 51
    +10
    For Japan at that time, this was the only way to contain it, and what makes the KAMIKADZE honored is that the first kamikaze who proposed it was a high-ranking general who, by his example, showed how to ram aircraft carriers
    1. Nexus 6
      Nexus 6 13 January 2014 11: 04
      +3
      Not at all like that. Onisi suggested.
      Vice Admiral Ugaki Matome on August 15, 1945, along with other kamikaze pilots, made a sortie on a Yokosuka D4Y Suisei bomber and died near Okinawa. Before surrender.
      The first one to be considered is Lieutenant Seki Yukio.
      see wikipedia.
    2. Shogun23
      Shogun23 13 January 2014 11: 06
      +2
      General) (or rather Admiral Onishi), who proposed the "kamikaze" tactics, did hara-kiri, after the defeat of Japan, and without chopping off his head (he suffered for 12 hours).
      And the first kamikaze, this is the captain (or lieutenant, I don't remember exactly) Seki Yukio, he flew several times with the 5th Zero on a mission, and as a result, his link sank one escort aircraft carrier (the first one was rammed, presumably Yukio himself, his victim - aircraft carrier "Saint Lo") and damaged 2 or 3 more ships
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  10. Shogun23
    Shogun23 13 January 2014 10: 59
    +4

    Orgy of the Righteous - Forward and Up
  11. Shogun23
    Shogun23 13 January 2014 11: 01
    +2
    According to the US, in the results of the kamikaze attacks, about 5 thousand people were killed, plus the same number were injured, a total of about 10 thousand people were out of action.
  12. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 13 January 2014 11: 09
    +3
    If you take the loss in L / C, then they won every way.
  13. apro
    apro 13 January 2014 11: 54
    +4
    There is no greater happiness for a soldier to die for his homeland by killing enemies. The Americans took kamikaze into account when landing on the Japanese islands and planned a war until 1946 if it weren’t for IVS Stalin to go to war.
    1. Vadim2013
      Vadim2013 13 January 2014 13: 18
      +7
      For a soldier, happiness is to kill enemies and stay alive. The article is very interesting and objective, read with interest.
      1. apro
        apro 13 January 2014 16: 50
        0
        The Germans also killed many enemies of their country and had the good fortune of being alive but as prisoners of war.
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    3. projdoha
      projdoha 14 January 2014 00: 43
      -1
      After the USSR entered the war, the Japanese-corrupt-government surrendered to Uncle Sam under the guise of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
  14. Hort
    Hort 13 January 2014 12: 11
    +5
    Even the greatest optimists could not have known that by 1944 the war had been shattered.
    Well, roughly speaking, while the Kwantung Army was still alive, the Japanese still had hope.
    And if we had not rolled it across Manchuria, the Americans would have fought for another year until 47-49 for sure.
    1. Shogun23
      Shogun23 13 January 2014 14: 14
      +1
      Quote: hort
      while the Kwantung Army was still alive, the Japanese still had hope.

      Not exactly, while Japan had Manchuria itself, Japan had hope. They were ready to burn out all of Japan with chemical and bacteriological weapons (in Manchuria there was the main base for the creation of bacteriological weapons "detachment 731"), and at the expense of the Emperor and other "necessary people" there was a plan according to which they were to evacuate to the territory of Manchuria.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 13 January 2014 15: 03
      0
      Japanese own assessment of November-December of the 45-th deadline, the Kwantung army was not of great strength.
      1. Shogun23
        Shogun23 13 January 2014 15: 44
        0
        The assessment of the Americans went much further, given that the landing directly on the territory of the metropolis was planned only at the end of the 45th and beginning of the 46th years.
  15. Corsair
    Corsair 13 January 2014 12: 39
    +2
    Quote: From the article
    In addition to the massive heroism of the Japanese pilots, suicidal rams became a formidable harbinger of a new type of weapon - anti-ship cruise missiles.

    A person who goes to death consciously, is smarter than any guidance system. Therefore, the% of hits and the damage from them is higher.
    MAN will not take any electronic warfare to the side ...
    1. Santa Fe
      13 January 2014 13: 47
      +1
      Quote: Corsair
      MAN will not take any electronic warfare to the side ...

      There are countermeasures for every threat
      Smoke curtains are enough for a man
    2. soldier of fortune
      soldier of fortune 13 January 2014 21: 21
      0
      Quote: Corsair
      Quote: From the article
      In addition to the massive heroism of the Japanese pilots, suicidal rams became a formidable harbinger of a new type of weapon - anti-ship cruise missiles.

      A person who goes to death consciously, is smarter than any guidance system. Therefore, the% of hits and the damage from them is higher.
      MAN will not take any electronic warfare to the side ...


      Well, EW may not take it away, but everything else (fear, nerves, well-being, piloting errors, bad weather and visibility, extra thoughts - as always at the wrong time ... a mote in the eye) will never add accuracy :)
  16. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 13 January 2014 12: 48
    +6
    The Kamikaze tactics were a forced but justified measure from the point of view of the Japanese leadership, which was well aware that the war was lost. With a total lag in the military-technical sphere from the allies, the lack of the necessary number of trained pilots, this was, although a cannibalistic, medieval, but the only correct tactic allowing the enemy to inflict effective damage with the forces of unprepared pilots. There was also a hope of ending the war without losing face and avoiding surrender. Having failed the training of the flight personnel reserve even before the war (flying clubs in the USSR and the USA), the Japanese were not ready for long-term hostilities. The Imperial Blitzkrieg failed. A natural result for a medieval society, and even now we don't have to look far for an example at the tragedy of the Fukushima nuclear power plant. and compare with the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. As Professor Preobrazhensky said: "... devastation is not somewhere out there, but in the heads ...".
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 13 January 2014 23: 33
      0
      in the bullseye, I just wanted to print, and you're a young man, and especially about Fukushima,
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 13 January 2014 23: 50
        0
        ]
        http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=325731 Спасателей и ликвидаторов провожают на "Фукусиму" как героев
        Dozens of people are now working at the emergency nuclear power plant in Fukushima. These are emergency response specialists and ordinary firefighters. They, as the Japanese and European media report, risking their lives, are trying to restore the cooling system to stop the melting of the reactors.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 14 January 2014 00: 19
          +1
          Against the backdrop of the terrible tragedy in Japan, local journalists filmed and posted on the Internet a video about the touching behavior of the dog, which remained without a host after the tsunami and faithfully guards its wounded friend on the ruins.
        2. badger1974
          badger1974 14 January 2014 00: 21
          -3
          and what the fuck is tossing up? can you tell the Ukrainian fireman
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 14 January 2014 00: 23
            0
            Here are the data http://fukushima-news.ru/
          2. studentmati
            studentmati 14 January 2014 00: 26
            0
            Quote: badger1974
            and what the fuck is tossing up? can you tell the Ukrainian fireman


            Not funny, and not witty.
            1. badger1974
              badger1974 14 January 2014 11: 57
              +1
              very much in the subject, every day tens of tons of radioactive water spills into the sea-okiyan for THREE YEARS, the problem of ducks is still unresolved, is it witty in your opinion? I’m about that this problem had to be solved right away, hotly, but there was no one- a couple of dozens of deaths, that’s all bushido, and this shit is pouring into the ocean and even with him the ocean, an advanced nation can afford it, and in the subject, these narrow-eyed even the help of the Chernobyl veterans refused, that’s the buy-out, all their wit is going to cancer before the Yankees, and my wit is just not to be or not to be and BE, unfortunately neither the Yankees (trim Island) nor Japanese with Fuku heroes of Tokma in mass media, self-sacrifice is not for them
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  17. tlauicol
    tlauicol 13 January 2014 13: 50
    +4
    no one understood that the article was not so much about kamikazes as about Oleg’s dream to build armored ships
    1. clidon
      clidon 13 January 2014 16: 23
      +1
      Armored submarines. With supersonic missiles ... And the main thing! The main thing!!! No aircraft carriers! )))
  18. Forest
    Forest 13 January 2014 14: 07
    +2
    "In 1863, after the first clash of the Choshu samurai with the Europeans (the Choshu forts were systematically firing at European merchant ships. In retaliation, the French destroyed Choshu batteries and occupied several villages on the coast), he stunned the clan leadership with a statement that the samurai had completely forgotten how to fight." we are afraid of defeat, that we are ready to run away from it into death. We do not know how to get up - only to fall. "
    1. Nexus 6
      Nexus 6 13 January 2014 17: 31
      +1
      A succinct description of the behavior of the Japanese military machine after 1943 - "strategy of defeat". I will remember.
  19. Voodoo
    Voodoo 13 January 2014 14: 19
    +2
    There is a good film on the topic "For those we love ...". If you want to experience all the tragedy of the short life of ordinary Japanese guys, I recommend it.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 14 January 2014 18: 49
      0
      looked, not impressed, about suicide bombers there is a more interesting film "sea witch", although fantasy, but more understandable, and so the Japanese cinema is full of g ...
  20. Taoist
    Taoist 13 January 2014 14: 33
    +2
    I, by conscience, decree
    Enrolled in a kamikaze,
    With a full bomb load flying.
    In the fuel tanks to the goal,
    Well, the goal, it’s in sight,
    And I want to take it today.

    Nerves are breaking to the limit
    To die for an idea
    And I enter my last bend.
    And those that are on target,
    Looking up, numb
    They know what threatens them with my aerobatics.

    Parachute left at home
    On the grass of the airfield
    Even if I want, do not collapse.
    The clouds rolled over
    And on the forehead all the veins swelled
    And squeezed overload chest.

    From the shells in the sky closely
    I dive steeply
    I go extremely beautifully.
    Three seconds left to live
    And it’s not important that so few
    My trees in the garden will bloom.

    Do not get them to the port,
    That's it, touch the side
    And in the dilated pupils reflected
    All my long way to the goal
    The one in sight
    I explode for others there is a reason.

    There is a reason for your flight
    To take a soul out of someone
    And to invest your soul in someone.
    There is a reason to reach the goal,
    The one in sight
    Yes, because the rest need to live.
    There is a reason to reach the goal,
    The one in sight
    Yes, because the rest need to live.

    A. Rosenbaum
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 13 January 2014 15: 35
      +3
      Like sakura flowers
      In the spring
      May we fall
      Clean and radiant.

      Memories of Flight Instructor Takeo Tagata


      By 1945, Warrant Officer Takeo Tagata was already an experienced pilot, a war veteran in China, with a flying time of 4000 hours.
      At the end of World War II, Takeo Tagata was sent as a mentoring mentor to a kamikaze pilot school. In August 1945, Takeo voluntarily joined the Kamikaze squad, as the front lacked experienced pilots capable of leading a kamikaze detachment who had just graduated from a flight school.
      The memoirs of Takeo Tagata were published in Japan with the assistance of Daitoa Seisentaihi Godzikai (Association for the Preservation of the Great Memory of the Great East Asian Holy War).
      Image of Takeo Tagata in 1940.

      "I fought in the China Incident (Second Sino-Japanese War 1937-1945 -) and in the Great East Asian War (as the Second World War is called in Japan) as a pilot of the Imperial Japanese Army. Later I became a mentor for kamikaze pilots and even received the order to commit a suicidal attack. ”While I waited for my turn to take off, the war was over.
      For four months, as a senior mentor, I taught and lived with forty army cadet pilots called Gakuwashi (eaglets). Twenty-two of the forty Gakutohei (army cadets) heroically died in Okinawa. Every day of these four months, I cried at night in the teaching room. Although I went through many battles as a fighter pilot, I could not give my cadets, who flew for another six months, no instructions on the moral-volitional training and the spirit of the Japanese warrior. I could not cultivate their moral-volitional qualities, because their morality and will were already great.
      The commander summoned me and asked why I didn’t train students in moral and strong-willed ways and instill in them the spirit of Japanese soldiers. I answered: "What moral and volitional qualities can I cultivate in those who despised the fear of death, becoming a fighter in the suicide corps?" The commander said, "Sorry," and tears appeared in his eyes.
      We, veteran pilots with vast combat experience, were called Aravasi (severe eagles). However, even we felt awkward in the presence of kamikaze pilots. We felt their spiritual superiority. When the kamikaze pilots took pictures for memory, or when they were about to fly soon, they all smiled and their eyes shone.
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 13 January 2014 15: 41
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        1. Santa Fe
          13 January 2014 16: 29
          0
          Thank you buddy. I always consider your pictures with pleasure
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    3. Skobelev
      Skobelev 13 January 2014 18: 02
      0
      Sorry for the fallen young Japanese at the end of 2MB. Their heroic flight increased only the number of deaths in 2MV.
    4. EvilLion
      EvilLion 14 January 2014 02: 40
      0
      Contrary to the joke about the old experienced kamikaze and now there are several people from the kamikaze who survived the war, because if the target was not found, they should return.
  21. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 13 January 2014 15: 23
    +3
    "I, by conscience, decree
    Enrolled in kamikaze
    "...
    (c) A. Rosenbaum "Kamikaze"


    Another country. Another mentality. We fought as we knew how and how we considered it necessary ... We do not understand to the end, but we still need to respect. Like any other standing enemy ...

    Oleg, thank you so much for the article. I read it with great interest (especially since I am quietly interested in Japanese) ... But I don’t presume to judge mysticism or not (this is with regards to the article on the booking of warships), but the coincidence and addition is very interesting ... Naturally - "+" ...

    (Work by American artist Glen Angus)
  22. Day 11
    Day 11 13 January 2014 15: 39
    +3
    Yeah ... Lieutenant Hajime Fuji came to the kamikaze volunteer recruitment center. He was refused, because he had a family. After a few days, his wife killed one-year-old children and committed suicide, leaving him a suicide note, blessing him on this mission
  23. Bigriver
    Bigriver 13 January 2014 15: 53
    +6
    I don’t know who Kaptsov is, but he says utter nonsense. hi
    Suicidal ram was their the last, spontaneous decision in a hopeless situation.

    This is a CHOICE of a person made in a critical situation, not a spontaneous decision. Such a person is characterized by a special upbringing and a special hierarchy of values. As a rule, it begins with the concept of "Motherland".
    Unlike Gastello, Japanese pilots sentenced themselves to death in advance and lived with this feeling for many months. Repeat something like that, having Russian educationseems completely impossible.

    Oh yeah! Russian and Soviet education focused on something else - they brought up the "Spirit of life", not death. This upbringing forced the pupil not to die himself, but to Bring the enemy to death.
    PS
    This is strange. Kaptsov, like a Russian surname?
    1. Santa Fe
      13 January 2014 17: 36
      -3
      Quote: BigRiver
      This is a CHOICE of personality made in a critical situation, and not a spontaneous decision

      How do you know, maybe his wheel jammed))
      Quote: BigRiver
      Oh yeah! Russian and Soviet education focused on something else - they brought up the "Spirit of life", not death

      I do not know how Soviet but Russian education based on Christian values ​​categorically condemns suicide

      Japanese culture is the opposite of a solid ritual of death
      Quote: BigRiver
      Such a person is characterized by a special upbringing and a special hierarchy of values. As a rule, it begins with the concept of "Motherland".

      The hand of the political instructor is firmly felt))

      Is it because in the first months of the war 4,5 million Red Army soldiers surrendered, and the late USSR became famous for the number of defectors and hijacking combat aircraft over a hill


      Quote: BigRiver
      This upbringing made the pupil not die himself, but LEAD the enemy to death.

      Start to see clearly.
      Article was the first essay about it
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 13 January 2014 17: 58
        +3
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        ... Is it because in the first months of the war 4,5 million Red Army soldiers surrendered, and the late USSR became famous for the number of defectors and hijackings of military aircraft over a hill ....

        For defectors - not the topic.
        But I propose to limit the prisoners of the Red Army of the "first months" to January 1942. It will be more convenient for you to count.
        Confirm - we speak further. No, take a walk.
        I draw your attention to "surrendered". You won't live long with such a filter. In conversation, of course hi
        Good luck and new discoveries.
        1. Santa Fe
          13 January 2014 18: 22
          -2
          Quote: BigRiver
          Confirm - we speak further. No, take a walk.
          I draw your attention to "surrendered". You won't live long with such a filter. In conversation, of course

          Rudeness that remains unanswered chokes on itself
          1. cumastra1
            cumastra1 13 January 2014 19: 02
            0
            mass surrender in the first months of the war is a continuation of the civil war, which unfortunately was not over in 20gg.
          2. cumastra1
            cumastra1 13 January 2014 19: 02
            +1
            mass surrender in the first months of the war is a continuation of the civil war, which unfortunately was not over in 20gg.
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 13 January 2014 20: 58
        0
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        Is it because in the first months of the war 4,5 million Red Army soldiers surrendered, and the late USSR became famous for the number of defectors and hijacking combat aircraft over a hill

        The beginning of the war, while the sneaks and zadolizas dutifully gave way to leading military professionals, there was a lot of confusion, for the first month, in fact, there wasn’t even a connection with the troops, but in some cases there was resentment towards dispossession and nationalization, the Baltic states, western Belarus and western Ukraine has been a part of the USSR for a little over a year, everything was complicated, ambiguous.
        In the second half of the war, the Nazis massively surrendered in the photo, probably Goebbels did not finalize.
        According to the article, dying for the homeland is worthy of respect, but probably the fighters and equipment could be used more rationally. In Japan, in general, someone suggested making a nationwide hara-kiri at the end of the war.
  24. clidon
    clidon 13 January 2014 16: 20
    0
    For some reason, nothing at all about kamikazes on the land front and in submarine forces. Even our troops in Manchuria were faced with the use of this type of soldier. Used mainly as anti-tank units. Armed with cumulative mines Ni05:
    http://forum.ozersk.ru/uploads/gallery/1233924389/gallery_2571_1341_11709.jpg

    And you can write a lot about submariners ...
    1. Santa Fe
      13 January 2014 16: 27
      +1
      Quote: clidon
      For some reason, nothing at all about kamikaze on the land front and in submarine forces

      because their successes are worthless

      Human torpedoes Kaiten sank only one large ship - the Missineva naval tanker
    2. Shogun23
      Shogun23 13 January 2014 17: 09
      +1
      Quote: clidon
      For some reason, nothing at all about kamikazes on the land front and in submarine forces.

      Because "kamikaze" are only pilots, and the general name for such suicide squads is "teisentai"
      1. clidon
        clidon 13 January 2014 18: 09
        +1
        Good. I agree with that, then I'm wrong.
  25. Delta
    Delta 13 January 2014 16: 41
    +1
    Kamikaze strike in the battleship "Maryland." At that time, 25 in November 1944, the damage was significant - the GK tower was damaged, the sailor died 31
    Indeed, whose case turned out to be harder: the sinking of the Abner Reed destroyer (1 in November 1944, 22 killed a sailor as a result of the incident) or the second damage to the aircraft carrier Intrepid (in November 25 1944, the ship lost 65 crew members and completely lost combat capability)? .. Hard to say.
    More than half of the US Navy warships in the Pacific theater had “scars” and “marks” after meeting with the kamikazes. Often - repeated. Only in the course of the Battle of Okinawa, kamikazes sank 26 of enemy ships and damaged 225, incl. 27 aircraft carriers!
    The results of the attacks are impressive.


    no, not impressive. Often, one torpedo (which cost less than an airplane, not to mention a pilot) did more damage. And you, Oleg, know about such cases. What is the death of 20-30 people (even 50) from the crew of a battleship or aircraft carrier, the crew of which is more than a thousand? 26 ships drowned? you yourself in the article acknowledge that any significant ships have not sunk kamikaze.

    These cases are the true meaning of the kamikaze legend - alas, reputable experts on the other side of the ocean prefer to tell the 47 tale of drowned vehicles, destroyers and patrol boats. The real consequences of powerful attacks go as if out of the list of losses - the ship did not sink? Not. So everything is ok.

    That's right, Oleg, everything is ok. If a tank is knocked out on the battlefield, but after the battle it is dragged away and repaired, then this is not an irrecoverable loss. He is nowhere mentioned as the deceased (unless it can be considered damaged or temporarily out of order). Why should it be otherwise with ships? yes, the same "Bunker Hill" really did not go into operation anymore, but are there many such examples?
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 13 January 2014 16: 48
      +1
      Launch of the Japanese human-controlled torpedo "Kaiten" from the cruiser "Kitakami"
      1. Santa Fe
        13 January 2014 17: 20
        +1
        The picture where the big dock with submarines is not Kaiten
        These are ordinary mini submarines.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 13 January 2014 17: 37
          0
          Yes Oleg, mini submarines like Koryu.
    2. Santa Fe
      13 January 2014 17: 19
      0
      Quote: Delta
      Often, one torpedo (which cost less than an airplane, not to mention a pilot) did more damage

      And again about the torpedoes?
      As if you don’t know the difference between a surface explosion and an underwater
      Quote: Delta
      Why should it be different with ships?

      Because billionth damage - the ship is being rebuilt

      constructive total loss
      1. Delta
        Delta 13 January 2014 17: 46
        0
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        And again about the torpedoes?
        As if you don’t know the difference between a surface explosion and an underwater


        yes I gave an example. The same could be said about bombs. The same "Marat" or "Roma" - with bombs.
        1. Santa Fe
          13 January 2014 18: 15
          0
          Quote: Delta
          The same "Marat" or "Roma" - with bombs.

          I found someone to give an example)))
          Worst battleship WWII and Roma sunk by Fritz's super-bomb


          by the way, 1,5 a ton armor-piercing bomb hit Marat
          1. Delta
            Delta 13 January 2014 18: 39
            0
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            I found someone to give an example)))
            Worst battleship WWII and Roma sunk by Fritz's super-bomb
            by the way, 1,5 a ton armor-piercing bomb hit Marat


            You did not understand. I gave an example not in line with the result of the attack on it (drowning), but in the sense that the bomb can cause sufficient damage, along with a torpedo. And then you do not have to mention the underwater explosion.
            1. Santa Fe
              13 January 2014 18: 56
              0
              Quote: Delta
              but in the sense that the bomb can cause sufficient damage, along with a torpedo

              It is clear that beauty will not add.
              The main thing is that the usual landmines could not sink any well-protected ship

              TKR / LK may need to be repaired upon returning to the base. But do you think it's better to burn out and sink in the ocean, along with half the team?

              Scheme of getting into LC Tirpitz (Operation Tungsten) - 227 and 726 kg of bombs were thrown. Such a number of hits - and nifiga, did not drown. Strongly beaten the servant of anti-aircraft guns - more than 100 people, but nowadays everything is automated - there will be no such losses.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 13 January 2014 19: 06
                +1
                German battleship "Tirpitz" (Tirpitz) under attack by British aircraft. Operation Wolfram April 3, 1943. You can clearly see a direct hit in the B. Tower. Fairey Barracuda torpedo bombers participated in the raid, which carried only a bomb load. Result: 123 killed, 300 wounded sailors and 3 months of repair work.
                1. Santa Fe
                  13 January 2014 19: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Fairey Barracuda torpedo bombers participated in the raid

                  )))))))))

                  Sasha, Her Majesty Anson and Duke of York’s battleships took part in the operation Tungsten, aircraft carriers Victories, Furyes, escort aircraft carriers Sicher, Empire, Pesyuer, Fanser, cruiser Belfast ”,“ Bellona ”,“ Royalist ”,“ Sheffield ”,“ Jamaica ”, destroyers“ Javelin ”,“ Virago ”,“ Meteor ”,“ Swift ”,“ Vigilent ”,“ Wakeful ”,“ Onslot ”... - all about 20 units under the British, Canadian and Polish flags, as well as 2 naval tankers and 13 deck aviation squadrons !!!!!!

                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Result: 123 killed, 300 wounded sailors and 3 months of repairs.

                  And they didn’t drown him !!!!
                  1. ICT
                    ICT 13 January 2014 21: 03
                    0
                    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                    The main thing is that the usual landmines could not sink any well-protected ship

                    10 декабря 1941 года
                    51 torpedo bomber and 34 bomber, no kamikaz, and in the English fleet minus two ships
                    1. Santa Fe
                      13 January 2014 21: 43
                      0
                      Quote: TIT
                      51 torpedo bomber and 34 bomber, no kamikaz, and in the English fleet minus two ships

                      The battlecruiser Ripals and the battleship Prince of Wales were sunk using torpedoes, but not the usual high-explosive
                      1. ICT
                        ICT 13 January 2014 21: 58
                        0
                        I'm talking about something else. from the fact that in the 1941 year, Japanese air force planes drove even destroyers to the coast, not having a single kamikaze in their composition.
                      2. Santa Fe
                        13 January 2014 22: 14
                        0
                        Quote: TIT
                        I'm talking about something else. from the fact that in the 1941 year, Japanese air force planes drove even destroyers to the coast, not having a single kamikaze in their composition.

                        Those. for the sinking of two ships with primitive air defense it took as many 85 attack aircraft, incl. 51 torpedo bomber

                        How many torpedo bombers would it take against the OS 58 - the largest of the squadrons ever plowing the ocean ??? 10 AB under the guise of a dozen high-speed battleships, cruisers and hundreds of destroyers. Despite the fact that the air defense system of American ships was by head superior to all air defense systems of other fleets

                        The Mk.53 anti-aircraft projectile with a radar fuse - that’s why the Japs had to use kamikaze. You can break through to the US Navy ships on a riddled plane - but you definitely can’t get out of the attack. One way flight.
                      3. ICT
                        ICT 13 January 2014 22: 35
                        0
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        with primitive air defense

                        Well, as if they were playing on equal terms, the Prince of Wales battleship, as I understand it, is the latest ship of the time with modern air defense, there are a lot of successful hits and it’s out of the game,
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        How many torpedo bombers would be required against the 58 OS

                        I was just about it, at first they missed the operational advantage, and then they lost technically
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        but you definitely won’t be able to get out of the attack. One way flight.

                        if every time at least one of 10 came back then success could be better,
                      4. Santa Fe
                        13 January 2014 22: 44
                        0
                        Quote: TIT
                        battleship Prince of Wales, as I understand it, this is the newest ship of the time with modern air defense

                        The British had big problems with air defense - nothing like the American ships of the 1944-45 model.
                        Quote: TIT
                        just about it at first they missed the operational advantage

                        They did not miss anything.
                        The Yankees built daily on 2 new ships of the main classes - it is impossible to win in such conditions. Japs bombarded with technology
                        Quote: TIT
                        if every time at least one of 10 came back then success could be better,

                        It seems so to you

                        Ford Mk.1 GunFire Control Computer had the opposite opinion
                      5. ICT
                        ICT 13 January 2014 22: 56
                        0
                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        It seems so to you

                        I do not argue, I myself do not like the subjunctive mood in relation to history.
      2. Nexus 6
        Nexus 6 13 January 2014 19: 36
        0
        In this case, the height of the bombing was insufficient, the bombs did not have time to pick up speed. Another question is how many hits would have been from a greater height.
  • Taoist
    Taoist 13 January 2014 16: 52
    +2
    In my opinion, there is no point in discussing "how effective were the special attack corps" - the question is not in their combat effectiveness. Just the story of "kössintai", "kaiten", "kamikaze" is, first of all, the story of the highest spirit - the spirit overcoming the natural human fear of death not only on the wave of andreanalin in battle, but also every day, consciously and calmly.
    Yes, it is difficult for us brought up in the European tradition to understand such a choice ...
    "West is West, East is East! And they cannot come together."
    And not even the choice itself, but the stoicism with which these people made their choice and literally demanded to honor them with this honor.

    "When the last warrior leaves on the eternal night,
    The light of a star on a blade pattern escorts him ...
    Fading away like lightning shine "(c)
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 13 January 2014 17: 07
      0
      Quote: Taoist
      ... Yes, it is difficult for us brought up in the European tradition to understand such a choice ...

      They have a territory, like a section of a ritual sword. And we have space.
      1. Taoist
        Taoist 13 January 2014 17: 18
        +2
        I don't think it's worth connecting everything to territorial features. There were also smaller states. At one time I was seriously engaged in kendo and naturally got carried away with everything that is connected with it. So such a harmonious system of "service", "fidelity to duty" has probably not been created anywhere else. The famous "Haga-kure" is not even a written code, but rather the instructions of fathers to their sons.

        "I realized that the Way of the Samurai is death.

        In the “or / or” situation, do not hesitate to choose death. That's not difficult. Be determined and act. Only the faint-hearted justify themselves by reasoning that to die without reaching the goal means to die by a dog's death. Making the right choice in an “or / or” situation is virtually impossible.

        We all want to live, and therefore it is not surprising that everyone is trying to find an excuse not to die. But if a person has not reached the goal and continues to live, he shows cowardice. He does it unworthy. If he did not achieve the goal and died, this is really fanaticism and dog death. But there is nothing shameful in this. Such death is the Way of the Samurai. If every morning and every evening you prepare yourself for death and you can live as if your body had already died, you will become a true samurai. Then your whole life will be impeccable, and you will succeed in your field.
        There are rules for raising a child in a samurai family. From infancy, courage must be encouraged in him, never to tease or intimidate. After all, if a child gets used to being afraid from childhood, he will carry this shortcoming through his whole life. The mistake is made by those parents who teach children

        afraid of lightning, forbid them to walk in the dark or tell horrors so that they stop crying. In addition, if a child is scolded a lot, he will become shy.

        The formation of bad habits in children should be avoided. After all, if a bad habit has taken root, no matter how much you reproach the child, he will not recover. As for the correct speech and good manners, you need to gradually accustom the children to them. Let the child not know about greed. If in this respect he is brought up correctly, everything else will follow by itself.

        A child raised in a dysfunctional family will be naughty. It `s naturally. Even birds and animals imitate the behavior of the people around them. In addition, the relationship between father and son may deteriorate due to inappropriate mother behavior. The mother loves her child above all else and therefore tends to intercede for him when the father makes comments to him. If the mother takes the side of the child, there will be no agreement between him and the father. Often the mother only cares about the child taking care of her in old age. "
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 13 January 2014 17: 46
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          Quote: Taoist
          I don't think it's worth connecting everything to territorial features. There were also smaller states. At one time I was seriously engaged in kendo and naturally got carried away with everything connected with it. So such a harmonious system of "service", "fidelity to duty" has probably never been created anywhere ...

          Shotokan hi
          The nature of service and fidelity to the duty of the Japanese more relates them to the individual values ​​of Western civilization.
          Have you seen the post-perestroika film Before Dawn?
          The film, for the most part, is empty. But there is grain there, near the end. In the dialogue between the escort (actor) Mironov and the former commander of the Red Army, a convict. For the sake of one dialogue, it’s worth watching a movie.
    2. Santa Fe
      13 January 2014 17: 21
      +1
      Quote: Taoist
      In my opinion, there is no point in discussing "how effective were the special attack corps" - the question is not in their combat effectiveness

      That was the whole question.

      they could die on earth at home
  • calocha
    calocha 13 January 2014 16: 54
    +1
    Yes, they’ve already seen it at 39 and at 45! Where de..mo where the footcloths flew from the Kwantung Millionth Army. It’s a pity that Port Arthur was about ... because of one gandon, and in 1905 it is unknown whose end the fly is sat ...
  • moremansf
    moremansf 13 January 2014 17: 20
    +1
    During the Pacific War, an elderly Japanese woman, whose son was a cadet pilot and died before he could finish flight school, came to the base where kamikaze pilots were trained. She asked one of the suicide bombers to take a lock of her son's hair and a scarf while flying. On the scarf she wrote a short parting word - "I pray for a direct hit." In total, during the war, 3913 suicide pilots went on their last flight and did not return. At the cost of their lives, they sank 34 American ships, another 288 were seriously damaged, they account for 80% of the losses of the Americans in the last stage of the war in the Pacific.
    Ensign Heyichi Okabe was born in 1923 in Fukuoka Prefecture in northern Kyushu. Before the call, he graduated from Taihoku Imperial University. At first he served in the Genzan air corps, and then he was transferred to the Specialty No 2 Detachment Corps. He kept a diary, which he sent to his family before the last departure. Here is one of the entries from his diary:
    22 February 1945 year
    I'm really a member of the kamikaze special attack corps.
    My life will end in the coming 30 days. I will get my chance! Death and I expect together. The training and training was tough, but it was worth it if we could die perfectly and profitably.
    I will die, following the great struggle of our people. My life will go faster in the next few weeks, as my youth and life have come to an end ...
    Departure is scheduled for the next 10 days.
    I am an ordinary person and I hope that I will not be a saint, nor a villain, nor a hero, nor a fool, just a person. As someone who spent his life longing for something and searching, I will die with the hope that my life will serve as a “human document”.
    The world I lived in was full of contention. Therefore, a community of intelligent people should be better organized. If there is no single great conductor, everyone starts playing their own notes, which leads to dissonance where harmony and melody should be.
    We will gladly serve the nation in the unfolding fierce struggle. We will ram enemy ships, nurturing the hope that Japan was and will be a place where only loving families, brave women and wonderful friendship will be allowed to live.
    What is our duty today? Fight. What is our duty tomorrow? To win. What is our duty daily? Die.
    We will die in battle without complaint. I hope that others, such as scientists who fight in this war on their fronts, will die without complaint, like us. Only then will the unity of Japan be so strong that we will get a chance to win the war.
    If, by a strange coincidence, Japan suddenly wins the war, it will be a fatal disaster for the future of the nation. It would be better for our country and our people to go through the real suffering that will temper them.
  • report4
    report4 13 January 2014 17: 46
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    Asian peoples have a rather low resistance to brainwashing and a suppressed instinct for self-preservation - from this such things also came (are). Japan now suffers from a huge number of suicides.
    Attack of the Dead is a feat, and quick suicide by ramming is hmmmm.
  • Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 18: 05
    +1
    A familiar girl from Japan sent ... repeat soldier
  • clidon
    clidon 13 January 2014 18: 08
    +2
    They have a higher level of public consciousness - one part of the whole and should be ready to sacrifice themselves in the name of all. In general, the motives are the same as for all the heroes, including Russian-Soviet. Only heavily flavored with religious ground - when there is no condemnation of suicide as such. On the contrary, it is considered the highest manifestation of feelings, including as atonement for sins.
  • Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 18: 21
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    Quote: clidon
    They have a higher level of public consciousness - one part of the whole and should be ready to sacrifice themselves in the name of all.

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    Not quite so ... Still, the estate of soldiers is much higher than the estate of peasants and commoners, and it is a great honor to die in battle for the divine emperor ...
    1. clidon
      clidon 13 January 2014 18: 43
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      In kamikaze they didn’t recruit on an estate basis, and even the military distributed weapons and grenades to the general population for collective suicides and suicide attacks on Americans. Of course, to the glory of the Emperor and the nation.
      1. Nexus 6
        Nexus 6 13 January 2014 19: 39
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        And pointed bamboo sticks handed out ...
  • Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 18: 24
    +2
    Quote: report4
    fast suicide by ramming is hmmmm.

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    Kamikazes are not suicides through a ram ... This is a man going to death in the name of the empire ... There is no need to vulgarize a soldier’s feat with cynical phrases ...
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 14 January 2014 00: 23
      +1
      do not forget the fact that the Kokutai of Special Operations included a staff of barely over the age of 18 years - agree about any bushido and there can be no question, this decision of the command is the most vile, since they never achieved real damage, so with the German "Gindeburg" out of 50 attacks, only 22 reached the goal, IT WAS YOUNG exactly like in the imperjap, in any case the professionals would have worked a hundred times more
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 13 January 2014 18: 29
    0
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    ... Rudeness that remains unanswered chokes on itself

    I apologize, had no idea about your age and ability to answer for your words.
    I repent, the child did not notice laughing
    The question is settled.
    But, in my opinion, did our short discussion benefit your knowledge?
    After all, a negative result of experience is positive?

  • Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 13 January 2014 18: 40
    0
    Kamikaze. Videoclip for the song by A. Rosenbaum.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 14 January 2014 12: 04
      0
      access to video is limited, some format is unknown?
  • Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 18: 48
    0
    Quote: clidon
    In kamikaze they didn’t recruit on an estate basis, and even the military distributed weapons and grenades to the general population for collective suicides and suicide attacks on Americans. Of course, to the glory of the Emperor and the nation.

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    This is understandable, but implicitly the kamikaze considered themselves accepted into the caste of the elect ...
  • Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 18: 59
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    In general, if we develop the history of the issue, then it is briefly like this ... When the hordes of the Mongols smashed everything in their path, the Japanese on their islands were terrified and waited for the Mongols to land on their lands ... And this landing took place, or rather, the ships went ashore Japan, but suddenly a strong wind came from somewhere, scattered the enemy ships and they sank ... In memory of this event, that wind was called the divine kamikaze ...
    Having gotten involved in World War II, Japan at its departure already had no resources to resist, ships and planes had nothing to refuel for long-distance raids ... Defeat was inevitable in any case, and for the Japanese mentality it is important to save face at all costs, even in the most hopeless situation ... Kamikaze pilots came out of here, the Japanese military sought desperately to save face by dying in battle, rather than surrender without resistance ... Of course, this can not be attributed to the entire Japanese army, nevertheless it surrendered, but this does not detract from the feat individual sol atmospheres and divisions ...
    1. Nexus 6
      Nexus 6 13 January 2014 19: 48
      0
      The emperor ordered the fleet and army to surrender. And they reluctantly carried out the order of the "deity". Americans love to talk about the fact that the atomic bombings allowed Japan to surrender face-saving and avoid national suicide.
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 13 January 2014 21: 41
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Having gotten involved in World War II, Japan at its departure already had no resources to resist, ships and planes had nothing to refuel for long-distance raids ... Defeat was inevitable in any case, and for the Japanese mentality it is important to save face at all costs, even in the most hopeless situation ..

      Initially a psychological defeat, the Japanese leadership suffered a psychological defeat, instead of making hara-kiri, they covered their shame with the lives of young patriotic Japanese.
      I recall Napoleon, who won hopeless battles or
      Colonel Karyagin's campaign against the Persians in 1805 does not resemble real military history. It looks like the prequel to "300 Spartans" (40 Persians, 000 Russians, gorges, bayonet attacks, "This is crazy! - No, bl ***, this is the 500th Jaeger Regiment!")
      Maybe Japan was defeated because it thought too much about how to save face, and how little to win?
    3. badger1974
      badger1974 14 January 2014 12: 17
      +1
      the infamy of the command of Japan is such that aviation initially went awry, exactly like the entire Navy and land equipment, if you look at the base Me-109e and Me-109k, then with outward similarity there are completely different characteristics, in the case of Zero it didn’t happen like a plywood-rag petrol the non-projected barrel remained in the 45th, pilot rewarding was not foreseen at all, Bushido received his saber only by pilots who can be counted on the fingers of one hand in the army aviation and it wasn’t possible to think of a decent death, because the command didn’t give a shit about what you were flying (fighting) and whether your personality was in battle (lack of an award system)
  • klim44
    klim44 13 January 2014 19: 49
    0
    Clarification, kamikaze are dead heroes. I would like to know such a simple question, why did the Americans sink the Japanese ships and return to their aircraft carriers, and the Japanese certainly had to die?
    1. Assistant
      Assistant 13 January 2014 21: 24
      0
      why did the Americans sink Japanese ships and return to their aircraft carriers, and did the Japanese have to die?


      And is it nothing that when the Japanese could still put forth forces corresponding to the forces of the Americans, they tried to avoid their own losses? After a disorganized American raid, a couple of thousand Japanese infantrymen with explosives were not landed at Pearl Harbor. These infantrymen would be able to fine-tune the quality of the port infrastructure of the main American base in the region in the direction of its absence, naturally, having died completely.
      So, not only were the infantry not landed, the number of air raids was less than what was proposed. In order to save their pilots.
  • uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 13 January 2014 20: 35
    0
    for any of them all the Japanese gave!
  • Ulairy
    Ulairy 13 January 2014 21: 25
    -2
    I don’t understand in any way, forgive me, but why is there such a shitty storm in the comments about someone else’s war? Japan did not send its pilots to their deaths, but only their "sons", who officially abandoned the family ... On the question of the ramming heroes, how did Oleg K. take that they "were going and hoped to survive" ?! By sending a one and a half to two ton car in the last dive, they "hoped to survive" ?? !! Well, if you only hope for a spider-man ...
    Japanese fanatics fulfilled their duty to their emperor, after which their attacks were officially (!) Recognized as ineffective, and parts of the divine wind (which the Mongolian fleet swept away half a century ago) were declared ineffective. Two years before the end of the war, by the way. Yes, do you teach history, finally !!!
    1. Shogun23
      Shogun23 14 January 2014 00: 11
      0
      Quote: Ulairy
      of the divine wind, (which the Mongolian fleet swept away half a century ago)
      half a century ?, and maybe all the same 650 years?
      1. Ulairy
        Ulairy 16 January 2014 20: 06
        0
        Hmm, a typo, sorry, I was drunk ... Thank you.
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    soldier of fortune
    soldier of fortune 13 January 2014 21: 40
    +1
    [quote /] it was a WEAPON. A powerful cruise missile is a prototype of the modern "Harpoons" and "Granites", equipped with the most reliable and perfect guidance system - a living person.


    Any techie associated with ACS, PVA and RT knows the absolute truth that in any technological system, the most unreliable and unpredictable element is MAN (sadly :)

    And if the Japanese would fly better, or rather put bombs at their targets and shoot, then they would inflict much more damage to the enemy. Not to mention the feasibility of developing unmanned missile launchers for cruise missiles and bombs.

    But history does not know the subjunctive mood, therefore ..... TARAN - WEAPONS OF HEROES! :)
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  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 13 January 2014 21: 50
    +2
    I believe that those who sent young guys to a deliberate death after the defeat of the country should have made a sepex for themselves, and it was a sepex! It is a shame to live on, realizing that someone on your orders gave their lives, and you live on, eat, drink, love your wife ...
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 13 January 2014 22: 10
    +1
    The torpedo bombers needed to be released normally and escort fighters, and not to destroy people.
  • Altona
    Altona 13 January 2014 22: 49
    +1
    Quote: Nexus 6
    And pointed bamboo sticks handed out ...

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    By the way, the word "stimulus" means a pointed peg at the bottom of a trap pit, not some gingerbread ...
  • ViewFromUSA
    ViewFromUSA 13 January 2014 23: 10
    0
    A bit of history - the first landing on Japanese territory by American troops occurred on February 19. 1945 to the island of Iwo Jima. Now historians say that this island was of no strategic importance to either the Army or the Navy. There were numerous Japanese army personnel on the island and the victory cost the U.S. Army very expensive, a lot of people died on both sides, of the 22 thousand Japanese soldiers captured, about 216 were taken, either seriously wounded or unconscious. The bombing of Tokyo (killing about 100 thousand inhabitants) and other cities did not lead to surrender. As is clear from the article, the Japanese did not fundamentally recognize the idea of ​​“surrendering”. They could obey ONLY the orders of their emperor. The United States was concerned about the number of its losses on the island. One can imagine what awaited the army on the main Japanese islands. And only the emperor could force the country to capitulate. Therefore, it was decided to use atomic bombs, and only after the second emperor gave the order to stop resistance and announced surrender. They attempted to attack him because of this, but this is a different story.
  • serezhafili
    serezhafili 13 January 2014 23: 27
    0
    Excuse me, but what's the difference between those who are tied with grenades rushing under a German tank, those who direct their perfectly serviceable aircraft at an American aircraft carrier and those who send their Messerschmit with unexpended ammunition to the Flying Fortress ?! Heroism has no nationality! And all the talk about efficiency is just an attempt to justify why I can’t do this ... By the way, the effectiveness of the kamikaze was very high!
    1. Assistant
      Assistant 13 January 2014 23: 59
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      what is the difference between those who are tied up with grenades rushing under a German tank, those who direct their perfectly serviceable plane at an American aircraft carrier


      Maybe the fact that the infantryman initially (according to the charter) should not have rushed under the tank. He was supposed to cover an anti-tank gun with a rifle from the German infantry (in general, some gun, anti-tank gun). But in the battle it turned out that there were 10 times more German tanks left than planned, the gun was broken, and the tank - there it was, was heading straight for the soldier. A more skilled soldier has already tried to crawl and throw a grenade from a distance - he was shot from a tank machine gun (the Germans were also skilled tankers), but the grenade did not fly. And the soldier has a choice: to die anyway, or to die, taking a tank with him. And he makes a choice on the battlefield. And if the situation on the battlefield changed (Soviet tanks arrived, for example), then there was no need to rush to the tank.
      A kamikaze initially, when recruiting, knew that they would have to die. That they are returning to base only until they find the first worthy target for a ram.
      1. serezhafili
        serezhafili 14 January 2014 00: 10
        0
        Yes, I’m not talking about ... I’m saying that sacrificing your life for the rest of us is the height of heroism ...
    2. Ulairy
      Ulairy 16 January 2014 20: 18
      0
      Forgive me, but the difference is who throws himself on Russian soil under a German tank, who directs his German Me-125 on German soil to an American B-25, and certainly who directs his serviceable Japanese Zero on foreign territory to foreign aircraft carriers. Heroism is heroism, "ubert aless" is also ...
  • Federal
    Federal 14 January 2014 00: 10
    0
    I'm just wondering how the author knows what he was thinking "Captain Gastello or Captain Flemming, who rammed the Japanese cruiser Mikuma on a burning bomber. Amazing telepathy, but in fact nonsense ...
    1. Santa Fe
      14 January 2014 00: 41
      0
      When rammed - I did not think about anything. He had no choice

      But when I received a briefing in the morning and got on the plane, I really hoped to return. Unlike the Japanese, who immediately knew where they were flying
  • serezhafili
    serezhafili 14 January 2014 01: 00
    0
    I’m saying that calling them suicides is simply blasphemy ...
  • Kars
    Kars 15 January 2014 19: 51
    +1
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    1. Santa Fe
      15 January 2014 20: 09
      0
      THX. And where does this scheme come from? who counted?

      I'm messing up with mail again
      1. Kars
        Kars 15 January 2014 20: 18
        +1
        From the article by Teslenko, but who considered it.
        http://www.uic.unn.ru/~teog/

        in my opinion from somewhere from here
    2. badger1974
      badger1974 16 January 2014 17: 08
      0
      and here is an interesting case when testing the P-35 anti-ship missile system --- A number of launches were carried out on targets: the unfinished leader of the Project 48 destroyers "Kiev" and the tanker "Nizami". One rocket, and with an inert warhead (without explosives), was enough to sink the leader with a displacement of 2500 tons.The rocket hit the left cheekbone, opened the deck like a tin can, about 50 m long, then the rocket collapsed, and its engine pierced bottom, and after 3 minutes the leader sank .--- hitting the cheekbone, as I understand it, is just a zone of full ricochet, and this is an inert part without explosives, and if only 300 kg ..., and on modern anti-ship missiles, the maneuver is done with "slide" in Japanese
  • Igarr
    Igarr 15 January 2014 20: 17
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    Hello everyone..
    Olga, many thanks for the material ... I read with ecstasy ..
    Just the other day I looked .... 47 ronin ... but still impressions, children’s, from the stories of my grandfather about the war with the Yap ...
    You are, as always, magnificent. What is your Google search engine? Invented his own?
    I can’t understand one thing - why are you so against ekranoplanes?
    Salute !!!