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Time puts everything in its place. Husk, ie, emotion, disappears, and the grain remains

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Time puts everything in its place. Husk, ie, emotion, disappears, and the grain remainsFrom 1991, the Latvians were strongly inspired that everything Soviet was bad. I confess that I thought so myself until I took the position of adviser to the Minister of Culture, then it was Raymond Pauls.


I began to get acquainted with textbooks, and it turned out that during the years of independence, Latvia has not published anything! All textbooks of the Latvian language, literature, dictionaries - all from the Soviet Union! Comparing with the legacy of Soviet Latvia, I saw that our modern linguists, folklorists, cultural scientists cannot come close to what their colleagues in the USSR did. But this is a great value. So I understood, at what high level the Latvian culture was in the Union, it was respected, given freedom of development. Today, our culture is not, it was replaced by a Euro-American.

... People leave Latvia in thousands: there is no home for them, there is no work and no faith in the future. For our little people, this is a tragedy. Once we flew into space and sang songs on Ligo, now we wash the dishes in London and we think if we can feed at least one child.

... I am almost 40, I am quite a famous musician and from the experience of past years I want to say that it’s bad - no, very bad - that the Soviet Union no longer exists. You begin to appreciate the lost with time and experience, noticing with your own eyes the fullness of the loss.
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  1. Christian
    Christian 11 January 2014 08: 27
    +24
    I know, still WILL! The south wind will still blow!
    1. varov14
      varov14 11 January 2014 11: 41
      +19
      Christian, so the south wind will sweep you nah @ en. He is already blowing, and we are afraid to resist him, we chew snot. Goblins stirred in every nation. But the Russians, in fact, kept them their national identity.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 11 January 2014 16: 00
        +14
        Quote: varov14
        But the Russians, in fact, kept them their national identity.


        + 100. What we have is not stored, but lost weeping. True, it is difficult for Latvians and other independent republics to admit this to themselves, not to mention a public statement.
        Oh, I feel the musician will fly in for such words .... oh, he will fly, because he has encroached on the basis of statehood, because everything bad that is in these countries is a difficult Soviet legacy ...
        1. Woolfy
          Woolfy 12 January 2014 05: 01
          +1
          But why is it heavy? I'm talking about the legacy
          1. yehat
            yehat 13 January 2014 12: 58
            +2
            heavy to pull)))
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        3. valokordin
          valokordin 12 January 2014 05: 31
          +1
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          Quote: varov14
          But the Russians, in fact, kept them their national identity.


          + 100. What we have is not stored, but lost weeping. True, it is difficult for Latvians and other independent republics to admit this to themselves, not to mention a public statement.
          Oh, I feel the musician will fly in for such words .... oh, he will fly, because he has encroached on the basis of statehood, because everything bad that is in these countries is a difficult Soviet legacy ...

          In Russia, too, listen to effective managers and 37 years old.
    2. AVV
      AVV 11 January 2014 12: 53
      +10
      Finally, people begin to think and compare what happened and what is now and it’s not always working out, it’s better than it was !!! They simply impose people on people, Western values, force them to accept pseudo-culture! Well, they try to impose on Ukraine what’s not typical of Christians! Same-sex families, working as plumbers or dishwashers, but abroad, which means you need to leave your families and children and work for a lord or burgher !!! But there have long been Poles, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Blacks with Arabs !! ! That to the Ukrainian, in the countries of the West nothing shines !!!
      1. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 11 January 2014 21: 44
        +5
        AVV (1) Finally, people start to think and compare what was and what is now and it does not always work out, better than it was !!!

        A generation has grown up that does not remember how it was. And those who are trying to remember, brainwashed daily. And yet, no matter what, Latvia and Latvians are more tolerant of Russia and Russians than Ukraine and Ukrainians. Even with friends it is better not to touch the theme of the Maidan. How bewitched!
        1. Wellych
          Wellych 12 January 2014 08: 06
          +1
          I do not think that what the media is shining is the people. I drink both with Ukrainians and with Yankees - it's not like the "blue" screen seems. Most likely it is the same with the Balts. The marginals, of course, stir up, manipulate, but as someone correctly noted, time will arrange. If you sit near the river for a long time, sooner or later the corpse of your enemy will float along it.
    3. Wellych
      Wellych 12 January 2014 07: 33
      -1
      It will change only when a certain pre-elected people is moved away from the speaker and the printing press.
  2. makarov
    makarov 11 January 2014 08: 27
    +34
    "I confess, I myself thought so until I took up the post of adviser to the Minister of Culture, then he was Raymond Pauls."

    Probably they will remove a man from his post for the truth-uterus, and for not praising "amerov's values",
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 11 January 2014 08: 34
      +23
      Yes, they, too, are rethinking what they have lost, like ours. Recently they have some kind of official or famous person. I don’t remember, I began to justify the expulsion of Latvians to Siberia, explaining this by the fact that they were fascists, and not on a national basis.
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 11 January 2014 08: 36
      +23
      Quote: makarov
      Probably they will remove a man from his post for the truth-uterus, and for not praising "amerov's values",

      One of the rare adequate Baltic states, and most importantly, is telling the truth, respect him. And what they’ll remove, he’ll earn himself a piece of bread and butter.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 11 January 2014 08: 43
        +19
        Yes, a musician, he is in truth quite good!
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 11 January 2014 11: 24
        +40
        Quote: ele1285
        One of the rare adequate Baltic states, and most importantly speaks the truth, respect to him.

        I think there are much more adequate Baltic states, they simply are not allowed to get to the media and voice their position, as well as adequate Russian, however.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 11 January 2014 12: 19
          +5
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I think adequate Balts much more

          But rather, they are no longer in the Baltic States, but in the EU or Russia they are earning money and they have no time for a microphone!
          1. Canep
            Canep 11 January 2014 12: 47
            +13
            If the Balts think so, then imagine what the Kazakhs think. 80 percent of Kazakhs agree to return the USSR, and nothing about Russians in Kazakhstan. The Balts have a chance only if the EU begins to fall apart and the standard of living there falls below ours.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 11 January 2014 13: 01
              +20
              Quote: Canep
              If the Balts think so, then imagine what the Kazakhs think. 80 Kazakhs agree to return percent of the USSR

              With the collapse of the USSR, popular power was usurped by oligarchic structures in ALL post-Soviet space. Therefore, the policy of the ruling classes does not depend on popular opinion. Therefore, the people for the restoration of the USSR, and the rulers against. The rulers only need a customs union to make it more profitable to trade, but in no case more! Otherwise, it threatens the national elites with the loss of sovereignty and power.
              1. Lindon
                Lindon 11 January 2014 18: 40
                +1
                Quote: S_mirnov

                With the collapse of the USSR, popular power was usurped by oligarchic structures in ALL post-Soviet space.


                Belarusian oligarch? No, I have not heard.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 11 January 2014 19: 24
                  +6
                  Quote: Lindon
                  Belarusian oligarch? No, I have not heard.

                  Have you heard the thieving Belarusian officials? Just Belarusians had the sanity to choose a president who really cares about his people. Nonetheless, capitalist living arrangements are bearing fruit. More and more positions of factory directors are occupied by young sons of officials who do not know how.
                  This layer separates the president from the people.
                2. abdrah
                  abdrah 11 January 2014 20: 23
                  +2
                  Quote: Lindon
                  Belarusian oligarch? No, I have not heard.

                  - Chizh, Peftiev. listen.
              2. blizart
                blizart 12 January 2014 14: 13
                +1
                Our Kazakh oligarchs and others like them do not at least poke their position with such impudence. And then it’s a joy
              3. yehat
                yehat 13 January 2014 13: 05
                0
                power was usurped BEFORE the collapse of the oligarchic structures in the form of clans in trade, in ministries and party families and groups. Remember how the distribution depended on who the person was.
              4. yehat
                yehat 13 January 2014 13: 05
                0
                power was usurped BEFORE the collapse of the oligarchic structures in the form of clans in trade, in ministries and party families and groups. Remember how the distribution depended on who the person was.
            2. blizart
              blizart 12 January 2014 14: 09
              0
              I am from Kazakhstan and I didn’t notice this. And even if we want (to return), it’s not at all because of the standard of living.
            3. Zymran
              Zymran 12 January 2014 18: 18
              0
              Quote: Canep
              If the Balts think so, then imagine what the Kazakhs think. 80 Kazakhs agree to return percent of the USSR


              Shield?
            4. Zymran
              Zymran 12 January 2014 18: 18
              +1
              Quote: Canep
              If the Balts think so, then imagine what the Kazakhs think. 80 Kazakhs agree to return percent of the USSR


              Shield?
            5. Clegg
              Clegg 12 January 2014 20: 16
              +2
              Quote: Canep
              If the Balts think so, then imagine what the Kazakhs think. 80 percent of Kazakhs agree to return the USSR,

              What kind of nonsense?
            6. sanitarlesa
              sanitarlesa 15 January 2014 22: 30
              0
              As for the Kazakhs, many acquaintances at one time fled from there, abandoning their homes and acquired goods. Now there is someone who goes there to earn some money but already in the field of electrics and electronics .. when I asked them. They say how the Russians dispersed their specialists there. it seems like not bad ... and now everyone asks what happened to everyone at the beginning of the 90 ... why?
        2. ele1285
          ele1285 11 January 2014 16: 25
          +7
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I think there are much more adequate Baltic states, they simply are not allowed to get to the media and voice their position, as well as adequate Russian, however.

          I meant public people, those who are allowed to the media. Only not everyone is allowed, Kvachkov for example. Yes, and in the Baltic states, you are right, there are many decent people, but who will give them the floor to tell them on the air? a well-known benchmark ", and also a boxer in Ukraine appeared with a complete absence of a brain, these in the studio.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 11 January 2014 19: 31
            +4
            Quote: ele1285
            Just not everyone is allowed, Kvachkov for example.

            You're right! I think not many people know, for example, about Yuri Shutov, who winds a life sentence for his books and speeches.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ErXSVMp3AM
            These are real political prisoners, not the thieving Hodor and the idiotic Puski.
            Real political amnesties have not been touched!
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 11 January 2014 21: 27
              +2
              Quote: S_mirnov
              You're right! I think not many people know, for example, about Yuri Shutov, who winds a life sentence for his books and speeches.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ErXSVMp3AM
              These are real political prisoners, not the thieving Hodor and the idiotic Puski.
              Real political amnesties have not been touched!

              And who says that they are political activists, what is political in the actions of the pusi wright? They put forward some political demands or read out proclamations. I would not plant them. But once a week for a month in public, near the temple, on the bare bottom lashes of forty and broadcast all over the country on the media. And about Hodor and no talk, "a thief should be in jail."
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 11 January 2014 23: 04
                0
                Quote: ele1285
                And who says that they are political, that the political is in the Pusi Wright actions? They put forward some political demands or read proclamations.

                You will not believe it, but all the terrorists in the Russian Federation do not put forward political demands !!! Such strange terrorists - they will blow up something and immediately head off under the spetsnaz bullet. Perhaps their political demands are a military secret, or someone at the top is very afraid of what the terrorists can say. I do not know. But sheer inconsistency.

                Quote: ele1285
                I wouldn’t plant them. But once a week for a month in public, near the temple, along the bare back of forty lashes and broadcast to the whole country through the media

                Be careful, Romanov may ban you for "insulting the feelings of believers", there is such an article here!
                Quote: ele1285
                about the bare back of the lashes of forty and with broadcast to the whole country through the media.

                Why, there’s an article - petty hooliganism, 15 days of revenge on the street are much more useful than flogging at the temple, and believers are calm and the street is clean smile
            2. Cherdak
              Cherdak 11 January 2014 23: 39
              +1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              few know about Yuri Shutov.
              These are real political prisoners, not the thieving Hodor and the idiotic Puski.
              Real political amnesties have not been touched!


              On October 5, 2004, Serafim Vinogradov, a lawyer for one of the defendants in the Shutov case, Evgeny Nikolaev, said that his client had tried to commit suicide. The attempt failed, and Shutov was placed in the psychiatric ward of the medical unit of the Kresty remand prison. The lawyer stated that it was already eighth suicide attemptcommitted by his client. (Interfax, October 5, 2004).

              In November 2005, the trial of Shutov was resumed, and the state prosecutor demanded a life sentence. February 16, 2006 Yu. Shutov and four of his accomplices were sentenced to life imprisonment; 11 more members of the "Shutov gang" received sentences ranging from 7 to 11 years.

              A specific person. A few corpses are behind, but what a literary talent crying : The godfather of St. Petersburg - about how Anatoly Sobchak (the first mayor of St. Petersburg) and his "St. Petersburg group", in which a prominent role was played by V. Putin, "went to power."

              He is clearly a rival of Litvinenko with his "FSB is blowing up Russia", but he was not offered tea No. , and only determined to rest in the "White Swan". Why?
        3. Cherdak
          Cherdak 11 January 2014 23: 26
          +7
          Quote: S_mirnov
          they’re just not allowed to get to the media and voice their position,



          973 films were shot by the Riga Film Studio from 1964 to May 4, 1990. This is almost 3-4 films a month. How can this be voiced? The occupation regime strangled freedom am
    3. avg
      avg 11 January 2014 14: 42
      +3
      Quote: makarov
      Probably they will remove a man from his post for the truth-uterus, and for not praising "amerov's values",

      Already removed. R. Pauls was Minister of Culture from 1991 to 1993.
  3. SPACE
    SPACE 11 January 2014 08: 28
    +22
    Having no store, lost crying.
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 11 January 2014 08: 36
    +10
    It is gratifying that HEALTHY PEOPLE have remained in Latvia. They may still find themselves, albeit small, but there is hope.
  5. max73
    max73 11 January 2014 08: 37
    +12
    did not expect such words from Renars. pleasantly surprised. I will answer with words from his own song - may be ....
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 11 January 2014 08: 40
    +12
    from the Don.
    A peasant has become wiser! But this is local and one of the few. And those bought: vagrants: yapping and crap!
  7. domokl
    domokl 11 January 2014 08: 40
    +19
    Many representatives of the former Soviet republics now have the exact same opinion. And it did not come from the fact that the attitude changed or shifts occurred in the head ... it appeared because the legacy of the USSR was ending or already ended. almost no one did anything new ... People began to understand that they were for the native government, for the native state ... It’s not who, but what ... Just the cogs, gears and other details of the mechanism ... And they are not the main ones, and so to speak, naviennoe equipment ... Which may and should, but not always ...
    1. 31231
      31231 11 January 2014 15: 20
      +4
      It is also worth noting that where they went to the West - economically lower and lower. And there is no one to help them now. Their bright thoughts remained only in the young, and in the fools like their ministers of defense.
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 11 January 2014 08: 51
    +9
    The whole story goes on in a circle of times ... in the industrial century the Baltic republics were also free ... but you won’t be fed up with nationalist rhetoric ... you need something to work, now you fully feel what it means to be a colony, even with the absence of enemy soldiers on their land ... they surrendered themselves ... they pay the arrears to the invaders ... EU.
  9. ZU-23
    ZU-23 11 January 2014 09: 02
    +8
    The author should explain this to his fellow countrymen thoroughly, preferably on their central television.
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 11 January 2014 09: 07
    +19
    Give the Russian Empire 2.0! Take all the best from the first and the USSR!
  11. Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 January 2014 09: 10
    +43
    Alas, Russian culture is also being replaced by Euro-American. For example, why should we celebrate Valentine's Day, when there are native holidays. The word volunteer is replaced by a foreign translation of the volunteer. This New Year's Eve on the first channel, Santa Claus was shown, not Santa Claus. The KHL is consonant with the NHL, but if there is a continental league, then there is an island. Unfortunately, the list of words and deeds destroying my homeland can be continued.
    1. Shumer
      Shumer 11 January 2014 10: 17
      +12
      I fully support your words, there is an excellent performance by Mikhail Zadornov on this topic.
    2. blizart
      blizart 12 January 2014 14: 16
      0
      Satellite - satellite, and who before?
  12. mountain
    mountain 11 January 2014 09: 53
    +4
    In order to measure, it is necessary to quarrel. Unfortunately, they went this way. At one time I heard a tale, if you take all the inhabitants of England and evenly distribute it on the territory of the Krasnoyarsk Territory. It would take them a hundred years for them to gather in one place. How much time does it take now, the Baltic states?
  13. demotivator
    demotivator 11 January 2014 09: 53
    +37
    It is not difficult to find figures and facts on the Internet that testify that before joining the USSR, Latvia was a backward state in all respects. The percentage of the illiterate population of the Baltic states by 1940 is shocking - about 31% of the population. More than 30% of children aged 6-11 did not attend school, but were forced to work in agricultural work. Between 1930 and 1940, more than 4,700 peasant farms were closed in Latvia alone due to huge debts.
    In the postwar period, the "Soviet occupants" simply fed the Baltic states - the national income of the Baltic republics was largely formed by appropriating a part of the national income of other republics of the USSR, primarily Russia and Ukraine. The amount of these appropriations only in Latvia in 1987 amounted to 22,8% of the total produced national income of the republic. In 1972 Latvia imported goods by 57,1 million rubles more than it exported.
    Only being a part of the USSR did this wild country become cultural, and the people were completely literate. Only the USSR built in it such well-known enterprises as the WEF and the RAF, the Riga Carriage Building Plant, and light and food industry enterprises. Over the years of its existence, the VEF factory has produced: cameras, film projectors, transformers, pumps, irons, electric motors, wires, cables, wind generators, machine tools, switches, automatic telephone exchanges, radios, telephones. They even assembled several aircraft with German Walter engines. Before the Soviet regime, none of this was there! Today Latvia is not even the backyard of Europe, it’s for its @ nice! Everything that was created there by the Soviet Union by the efforts of not only Latvians, but of all the peoples of the USSR, all this was thrown into the wind, completely ruined. And this again, alas, is a wild and ruined country, without a population and a bright future.
    ... People leave Latvia in thousands: there is no home for them, there is no work and no faith in the future. For our little people, this is a tragedy. Once we flew into space and sang songs on Ligo, now we wash the dishes in London and we think if we can feed at least one child.

    The guy only confirms my findings.
    1. Moore
      Moore 11 January 2014 15: 21
      +14
      In fairness, it should be said that the WEF began work in 1919, and the RVZ was built in the nineteenth century.
      Airplanes at the WEF, by the way, were assembled in the 30s.
      This is all I need ... With the generally correctly taken direction, one should not carelessly relate to minor details.
      Came from Riga a week ago. Children of classmates in Europs go to Bialystok, Poland, to buy food and other junk, the "Old Woman" is flooded with Russian tourists, life on the outskirts and in Jurmala ends by 20.00.
      The local elite did not want to be a showcase of the USSR, they became at least backyards, but European ...
  14. Lukich
    Lukich 11 January 2014 10: 14
    +10
    ... now we are washing dishes in London ...


    ... probably the whiskey remains in dirty glasses and has something to eat, but what a poor Latvian needs is well-fed and drunk and his nose is in "English" tobacco ...

    ... got rid of the invaders, they themselves occupied the entire geyropu - Winners !!! ...

    ... walk boys !!! ...

    ... yes, more - my friend was Lettish ... yeah ...
  15. Boris63
    Boris63 11 January 2014 10: 17
    +11
    The Baltic republics in the USSR lived much better than the rest, owls. the authorities tried to make "life" as easy as possible for them. Factories were built, agriculture and the so-called national tradition developed.
    Renars said something similar more than once on Nashe Radio, and if he says this in his country all the time, hesitant people may come to the same opinion.
  16. vomag
    vomag 11 January 2014 11: 42
    +8
    Well, what did you want the West long and hard to shit in their heads about how good they were and how it was * ero at the union !! Only the Baltic states did not say that the West needs their land without the Baltic states themselves !!! Doctrine with 41 never changed to destroy or evict what actually happens only quietly in accordance with democratic values ​​.... The Baltic States have already lost their war, God forbid, we repeat their fate
  17. Arhj
    Arhj 11 January 2014 11: 50
    +4
    I read the economics analyst of the former UNION. For 20 years, the Baltic states' GDP has not changed much. At the same time, Russia's per capita GDP became the second, more than doubled. It seems that they have not yet caught up with Estonia. Here are the prospects for EU membership.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 11 January 2014 12: 17
      +5
      I forgot to add that GDP was considered per capita, and the population during this time in the Baltic states declined.
    2. alone
      alone 11 January 2014 17: 56
      +5
      Quote: Arhj
      I read the economics analyst of the former UNION. For 20 years, the Baltic states' GDP has not changed much. At the same time, Russia's per capita GDP became the second, more than doubled. It seems that they have not yet caught up with Estonia. Here are the prospects for EU membership.


      and now just compare the economic opportunities of the Baltic states and Russia! You will be surprised why, with such opportunities, Russia's GDP per capita increased only slightly more than twice)). The Baltic States and Russia. Maybe the Baltic States have such natural resources and economic power as Russia?

      Found what to compare. Baltic and Russia.
      1. Arhj
        Arhj 11 January 2014 23: 37
        +4
        In vain you are so. Serious people wrote this analytics without a hint of Russian patriotism. I specifically emphasized that we are talking about GDP per capita. An objective indicator that allows you to show the state of the economy without taking into account its size.
        This is not the point of the comment. At the time of the collapse of the USSR, three Baltic republics were in the top four in terms of GDP among the republics of the Union. The Baltic states were the most European part of the country and had a developed and most importantly quite competitive industry and infrastructure.
        Over 20 years, their per capita GDP grew to around $ 300, while they voluntarily destroyed their industry and lost their population. That is, taking into account the outflow of the population for today in total, they have not even reached the level of 1991.
        That is, having significant potential, they did not use it.
        Economic opportunities have nothing to do with it. The possibilities of Russia are greater than most of the countries of Western Europe, but we are still far from their level.
        And natural resources are an important but non-determining factor for economic growth. Often the country that owns them becomes just a raw materials appendage.
        1. alone
          alone 12 January 2014 00: 21
          +1
          In the USSR, there were only 5 or 6 republics that were really non-subsidized. The rest lived tightly on subsidies. And the Baltic states as well.
  18. major071
    major071 11 January 2014 11: 54
    +13
    It turned out to be quite an adequate man, by the way very fond of watching KVN.
    it turned out that over the years of independence, Latvia has not published anything!

    This is European freedom: not a single book in more than 20 years. Again, the Russians will be to blame, because during the years of the "occupation" they destroyed all the publishing activities of Latvia, and the West brought them a bunch of "Happiness", but they didn’t care about culture, and why the West, it’s easier to manage a dull herd.
  19. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 11 January 2014 12: 18
    +7
    A bit of recent history, when directly our media became the mouthpiece of the West:
    By 1985, the media had already become one of the mechanisms of power. Particular attention was paid to young people - the old ideals of good, freedom, justice, honesty, mutual assistance were distorted, ridiculed and replaced by cults of sex, violence, inferiority of their own state and people, and the superiority of the West. People who did not lose control over themselves, remained faithful to the ideals of morality and honor, the ideals of socialism, were either silent or publicly ridiculed, calling them "enemies of perestroika," "totalitarian remnants," etc. More and more were written and talked about "civilized countries." The West gradually turned into an ideal, thus suppressing Russia's independent thinking. Russian and Soviet cultures were declared "inferior", "underdeveloped." The history of the USSR began to be called "totalitarian." It was a powerful psychological blitzkrieg. Mass disorientation, loss of old values ​​and ideals - this is the situation in which the people find themselves.

    Propaganda was especially introduced into the outskirts (union republics) of their historical "superiority over the bastard invaders from Moscow," Nazinalistic feelings were fueled in the fragile heads of young people against the background of the inability to see all this "old men" in the USSR Politburo.
    However, after the "Western values", self-awareness and self-blocking against the "Anglo-Saxon injection of pro-Western propaganda" still begin to "wake up" and a new day will come after the "nightmares" of the night.
  20. Garrin
    Garrin 11 January 2014 13: 02
    +7
    and sang songs on Ligo,

    I remember very well. Our part, practically on the bank of the Daugava, was located, about five hundred meters, between us and the river, a forest belt, an oak grove and all this in Riga. There they gathered.
  21. Stiletto
    Stiletto 11 January 2014 13: 08
    +8
    Face to face - face not to see; large seen at a distance. Here is another sight.
  22. baytygan
    baytygan 11 January 2014 13: 14
    +5
    The Baltic states are simply doomed to be a province of the Russian Empire. Not in 25, so in 50 years ...
    1. avg
      avg 11 January 2014 14: 46
      +10
      In the USSR, it was a showcase. Backyard has now become. We’ll see what happens.
  23. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 11 January 2014 13: 23
    +11
    Quote: Thousands leave Latvia: there is no home for them, no work and no faith in the future.

    I had to study in Latvia (Riga) in the 70 of the last century. Developed, with advanced (at that time) technology economy This Baltic republic was built during the Soviet Union. Latvian radio-electronic, telecommunication equipment was at the level of foreign samples. During the post-Soviet time, all this perished, and the working class of the country turned into a class of guest workers. These are the "charms" of the European Union.
  24. Kahlan amnell
    Kahlan amnell 11 January 2014 13: 33
    +10
    ... I am almost 40, I am quite a famous musician and from the experience of past years I want to say that it’s bad - no, very bad - that the Soviet Union no longer exists. You begin to appreciate the lost with time and experience, noticing with your own eyes the fullness of the loss.
    Posted by Renars Kaupers, Brainstorm lead singer, Latvia

    There is a Russian proverb: "What we have, we do not keep; when we lose, we cry."
    There is another: "Having taken off their head, they do not cry for their hair."
    So, dear Latvians, as well as Estonians and Lithuanians, you got what you so persistently sought. Then for you the "Walking in agony" began. What can you do, suffering is the best teacher. Nothing teaches like your own pain.
  25. wow
    wow 11 January 2014 13: 43
    +20
    Yes, brother Renars, that's it !!! I lived in Latvia, in Riga itself, for many years (with my parents), from 70 to 82. Parents left there in 1994. The city was full of young people, a lot of enterprises were working, there were a lot of students in Latvian universities. He himself graduated from high school in Riga (No. 37), entered and graduated from the RVVAIU named after Ya.I. Alksnis. Now I correspond with my "schoolchildren" in Odnoklassniki, they say that you would not recognize Riga now. On the streets, there are almost no people under 45-50 years old, everyone fled to "earnings" in Europe. As you rightly noted - to wash dishes and clean toilets. However, I personally did not expect anything else. You cannot swear an oath twice, it is a crime (and not only a military one)!
  26. Eugene
    Eugene 11 January 2014 13: 54
    +12
    Respect to the author. I heard about Alytus (Lithuania). Especially about the people there, from one of the local residents. It turned out to be interesting news that the Litvins, who are smarter, began to slowly learn Russian through tutoring. Brain Storn steers !!!
  27. homosum20
    homosum20 11 January 2014 13: 57
    +5
    Clever man. I am glad that such still remained among the Baltic states. So, for them, not everything is lost.
  28. tank64rus
    tank64rus 11 January 2014 13: 58
    +9
    The peoples of the USSR in the 90s did not understand that they had betrayed themselves, their future and the future of their children. All received the former party nomenclature, bandits and traitors. How much gold the West has pumped out of the USSR has yet to be realized. As they say in a strange feast, a hangover. God grant that our descendants understand that we are all doomed to live together, otherwise all our peoples will simply disappear from history.
  29. delfinN
    delfinN 11 January 2014 14: 23
    0
    Quote: Canep
    The Balts have a chance only if the EU begins to fall apart and the standard of living there falls below ours.

    You want to say that we need to put them on the neck again.
    1. kr33sania
      kr33sania 11 January 2014 17: 54
      +5
      Now? On the neck???! Who needs them, now up to their ears in shit. And get them out, in 30-50 years they will start hissing again "Don't understand Russian, invaders!"
  30. HAM
    HAM 11 January 2014 14: 49
    +6
    There were: Raimonds Pauls, Zane Griva and other musicians, the whole SOYUZ loved them, and now who needs their music, in Europe their ts. "music" has nowhere to go.
  31. pamero
    pamero 11 January 2014 14: 55
    +2
    Why Russia needs Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia to feed them subsidies. We have our money to spend. Let the Baltic citizens read the German OST plan there everything is described their future! But Russian and Russian speakers need to move to Russia ...
    1. kr33sania
      kr33sania 11 January 2014 18: 05
      0
      Even in present-day Latvia, the Russians who live there live no worse than in our madhouse in Russia. Therefore, they are not too eager for Russia. And the Latvians, in comparison with the USSR, certainly lost a lot. - Then they lived much better than in most other republics. No matter how corny it sounds, but WAS CONFIDENCE IN TOMORROW. And now to old people in Latvia oh, how sweet!
  32. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 11 January 2014 14: 59
    +9
    Duc in the Baltics never liked Russians, the consequences of "joining" the USSR. Now they, together with Ukraine, must probably sip on complete independence, in order to realize who is the enemy and who is the friend. Only by forgetting mutual grievances, on a voluntary basis, on mutual respect, it will be possible to restore good-neighborly relations. But it is very difficult to suppress the imperial habits in oneself, then no matter what, there will always be a shit in a relationship. Russia is big, great and kind ... must forgive the unreasonable and patiently wait for the lost)
  33. P12P
    P12P 11 January 2014 15: 51
    +1
    it is called so - that we do not store, having lost by crying
  34. Arkan
    Arkan 11 January 2014 15: 55
    +1
    The sad result of independence, Independence from one’s culture and the approaching loss of Mentality.
  35. Petya Nosov
    Petya Nosov 11 January 2014 16: 55
    +7
    According to Renars, I would like to add the following:

    In Lithuania, after the showing of "The Man and the Law" on the events of January 1991, the broadcast of the 1st channel was stopped. Note that the broadcast was stopped by the cable provider (after an angry shout from the Vilnius district committee), despite the fact that the money was paid for a package of channels in the full list. It seems like nothing, the limitrophic education calling itself a stronghold of democracy in Eastern Europe is being defended as best it can.
    But in order to get medals for this ... In general, read and see again how real democracy works ...

    The director of cable television operator Cgates, who decided to stop broadcasting the First Baltic Channel, will receive a state award. This decision was made by the Minister of National Defense of Lithuania Juozas Olekas.

    http://ru.delfi.lt/news/live/za-prekraschenie-translyacii-pbk-vruchat-medal.d?id
    = 63728640
  36. alekc73
    alekc73 11 January 2014 17: 00
    +1
    finally he saw the light. it took courage to admit the obvious facts.
    in the Baltic states, for the past 20-25 years, mud has been poured on the USSR.
    at the same time, the older generation knows very well that under the "occupation" 95% of the population lived better than now
  37. Stinger
    Stinger 11 January 2014 17: 00
    +2
    I was convinced that the born crawl cannot fly.
  38. Altona
    Altona 11 January 2014 17: 05
    +7
    The Baltic culture brought up in the USSR was never purely national ... It was exactly Soviet from and to, just cultivated on their national material ... These are dances, and music, and everything you want ... They didn’t come out of the Baltic only tynisy mega, anne vesky, inggeborgs dapkunaite, limes vaikule and raymond pauls ... But also ... Dancers Godunov and Baryshnikov emigrated to the USA, Mikhail Weller and Sergey Dovlatov- were printed in the Baltic states, Mikhail Nokolayevich Zadornov is also a writer .. As soon as the USSR was gone, nobody in general even needed the Balts with their culture ... Russia maintains the high status of Jurmala-kvn, comedy club, new waves ... But this is also due to inertia, the old fashioned way ...
    1. Stasi
      Stasi 11 January 2014 23: 03
      +2
      All of these Jurmala-KVN, new waves and comedy club are business projects that have nothing to do with Russia. Once it was considered a great success to go to the Baltic states, if you can’t get to Europe, at least create an appearance for yourself. Nowadays, the stars of show business can easily travel to the West and perform there, but no one needs them there and is not interesting, even for money. And they drew attention to the Baltic states, where they are ready to receive and serve them, look into their mouths and express exuberant delight to their antics at a price. And they are happy, they pay in every possible way, buy real estate in the Baltic states and are sure that they are loved! Love, but as long as these gentlemen have money. As soon as the money runs out, these same stars will quickly see how they really love them.
  39. Stasi
    Stasi 11 January 2014 17: 13
    +18
    During the period of the USSR, the Baltic States were not only a showcase but also abroad for their own citizens. I remember my acquaintances told the following story. It was during the Soviet era. We brought them on an excursion to Estonia, Tallinn. The trip was for one day, and in the evening everyone came back. At the end of the tour, ours were allowed to go to local shops to buy the deficit. And time was running out, ours were in a hurry. And while shopping in front of the bus with a group, one man and a boy, from the local, stopped. He pointed to our son with his hand and said aloud: "Look, see how these Russians rush about our shops!" Alas, no one ever bothered to remind this chukhontsi that all these goods in Estonian stores were created on the basis of Russian raw materials. This is how the Balts boasted and puffed themselves up in every possible way. If the Balts again ask for us, they should be driven in the neck. Did you want independence? Receive. You chased the Russians out, thrown them out of their homes on the basis of the law on restitution, when the Russians were robbed of their housing and property? Did you slander our history in every way, persecute Soviet veterans and praise SS veterans? Are Russians living in the Baltics in the position of non-citizens, are they forbidden to speak their native language? We will not forget anything and will not forgive. If you ask for help, look for a piece of bread - do not contact us, solve your problems yourself. And in general, Europe should feed you. This is how, in my opinion, the Balts should be treated, they deserve it with their ingratitude for everything that Russia has done for them.
    1. Current 72
      Current 72 12 January 2014 00: 47
      +6
      Cruel but fair !!! I support.
  40. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 January 2014 17: 31
    +3
    Yes, the Baltic States will now keep the brand to the last and yapping at Russia. Even if there is a kapets for the country, the West will not spare money for certain people, so that they would not allow the Baltic states to come to Russia. In the "Ost" plan, it seems to them that the role of servants was assigned.
  41. Altona
    Altona 11 January 2014 17: 33
    +3
    Quote: Stasi
    He pointed to our son with his hand and said aloud: "Look, see how these Russians rush about our shops!"

    ------------------------------------
    I’m sprats, for example, now I don’t buy Baltic at all ... I’ve already eaten about 25 years ... I have eaten up in the USSR, but now I just don’t want to ...)))) I want smoked sardine in oil, but I don’t even offer sprats I won’t eat ...)))
  42. michajlo
    michajlo 11 January 2014 17: 42
    +9
    Hello everyone!

    The author of the note to Renars is a plus from me.

    I was very pleased and Notes of members of the forum, with most of them I agree.

    Regarding the fact that, as the forum users wrote above, that the loss of the Union, we are residents of the outlying republics of the USSR (I mean specifically Ukraine and Transcarpathian Ukraine / Transcarpathia), we understood the ABL over time.

    I personally understood a lot and realized my mistakes in the 80s and 90s after 6-10 years of living in Slovakia (in the half of the 2000s). Alas, this is a real fact, but as the saying goes, "I'm not used to pretending to be a more religious Catholic than the Pope." By the way, I am Orthodox, although I was baptized after my 30s.

    I hope that we, who will see the light and understand, will arrive every year in the vastness of the post-USSR and post-SVD. And here in Eastern Europe from the 2000s, many people recall socialism IN GOOD WORDS.
  43. akm8226
    akm8226 11 January 2014 17: 53
    +1
    Also, to me, with Newton’s bin ... everything said in the article was clear to all smart people back in 1991. And only the gentlemen of the Baltic states were stupid to the impossibility ... the same as their overseas curators.
  44. Dimasan
    Dimasan 11 January 2014 18: 32
    -4
    The company JSC “SO UES” released operational data. According to them, in July this year in the Unified Energy System of the Russian Federation the level of electricity consumption was equal to 73,9 billion kWh. This is 0,2% less than the same indicator last year.

    In total, Russia consumed 75,3 billion kWh of energy, which is 2012% lower than in July 0,2.
    The volumes of energy production and consumption in the Russian Federation in general consist of figures for facilities that are included in the Unified Energy System of Russia.

    Electricity generation in July this year in the whole of Russia reached 76 billion kWh. This is 0,5% less than last July. _____________________________________________________
    So we survived to the beginning of the end ...
  45. santush
    santush 11 January 2014 18: 38
    +1
    Such a short note, and how much information is in it. There is pain and despair in it. I wish the author creative success! Looks like a good person ...
  46. not good
    not good 11 January 2014 18: 55
    +2
    People in the Baltic states who regret the destruction of the USSR are simply not organized. It is simply necessary that our special services methodically support the organization, work and development of all kinds of pro-Soviet (pro-Russian) public organizations. Thus, creating a "fifth column" to promote our interests in the Baltic States, then that in the 90s he made the west and what the humpbacked Judas could not (or did not want) to resist.
  47. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 11 January 2014 19: 38
    +4
    Late to shed tears. Latvia ALREADY made its choice: it helped to destroy the USSR and put an end to itself.
  48. pvv113
    pvv113 11 January 2014 19: 49
    +10
    WELL SAID. THESE WORDS FROM THE SOUL, EXPRESSING THE INTERESTS OF THE LATISH PEOPLE, NOT THE POLITICAL STAFF OF THE WEST
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