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New Corvette for the Russian Navy?

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New Corvette for the Russian Navy?



In 2011, the Russian Navy placed a competition to create the image of a corvette of a new generation. Recently it became known that OJSC United Shipbuilding Corporation has begun to create a prototype and test computer models of the corvette of a new generation, said untrustworthy source in the General Staff of the Russian Navy.

These were the conditions of the competition:

The futuristic appearance of the corvette should be a single platform that can transform depending on the performance of the above functions. The platform should have contours that significantly reduce its effective area of ​​dispersion (implementation of “Stealth” technologies) and can be performed both in single-hull and multi-hull versions (catamaran, trimaran), including using different dynamic maintenance principles (on hydrofoil , air cushion, air cavern, etc.).

So who developed the project?



Here, many have noticed American helicopters, well, here's a fresh schedule for you



In 2011, the best samples of Russian warships and weapons were presented at the Fifth International Navy Salon (IMDS 2011) in St. Petersburg.

It was argued that the future of the Russian naval fleet -corvette of the near sea zone "Strict". They plan to make an asymmetric catamaran using the STELS technology - invisible to enemy radars.

The Corvette will be able to carry on board two heavy helicopters, it will be equipped with the most modern shock weapons - cruise missiles and artillery systems.

“This ship is distinguished not only by the futuristic appearance, which is unfamiliar to the eye, but also by fundamentally new materials,” said Roman Trotsenko, president of the Russian United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC).



On the helipad of the corvette is a heavy helicopter that has proven itself well. Of interesting solutions is a carbon fiber superstructure, which is made using the casting method, and the ship's reflection on the instruments is about the same as that of a small vessel with a length of 30 meters.

The outer futuristic appearance of the corvette of the near-sea zone (on the photo) for the Russian Navy was developed by the winners of the USC competition, designers Alexey Boguslavsky and Yevgeny Kazantsev. The asymmetric catamaran in their performance impressed the jury so much that the experts could not find any significant flaws in the project.

It was the armament, low visibility, fleetness and unusual layout that made their corvette inaccessible to competitors. And their landing ship in their nomination became the third.

Alexey specializes in watch design, Eugene - in web design, and this naval experience for both was the first. But success is explained simply by a long-standing, since childhood, love for everything connected with the sea.

President of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Roman Trotsenko, awarding the winners, admitted that many of the projects were a real technological breakthrough. The ship was supposed to be operational before the 2020 of the year (standard date ...)
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  1. Christian
    Christian 11 January 2014 08: 18
    +12
    We are waiting and hope!
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 11 January 2014 08: 35
      +5
      Quote: Christian
      We are waiting and hope!


      We can! True, I think they will not keep up with 2020, a breakthrough project always requires refinement of the head product.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 08: 41
        +6
        Eugene - on web design, Mechanic, have you created this?
        1. A.YARY
          A.YARY 11 January 2014 09: 28
          +1
          Alexander Romanov good afternoon
          This is all a picture, plus a corvette (ha!).
          A picture of the cruiser, but vigorous, so Schaub already .... wow! Did not order the Navy?
          Didn’t even order a picture?
          Does this mean the development of the fleet? Corvettes? Can we extrapolate?
          Frigates-corvettes-brigs-sloops-boats, etc. to the "six-oar bot" (m-lice)!
          Interestingly "developing" the fleet!
          1. Armata
            Armata 11 January 2014 10: 45
            +35
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Eugene - on webdesign, Mechanic, did you create this?
            So that I drew vodka like this is not enough, and I don’t design, I don’t know how to draw. Secondly, they already wrote about these pictures. Students drew them and the first place was taken by this monster, although there were more interesting proposals. Prototyping and testing (well, figs knows, maybe it started). Everything else is husk in the article, you can’t believe this.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 04
              +6
              Quote: Mechanic
              . Everything else is husk in the article, you can’t believe this.

              Given this phrase in the article ...said an unreliable source at the General Staff of the Russian Navy. only a sucker can believe in it laughing
              1. IRBIS
                IRBIS 11 January 2014 13: 34
                +21
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Given this phrase in the article ... an unreliable source at the General Staff of the Russian Navy reported. only a sucker can believe in it

                And if we also take into account that we do not have the General Staff of the Navy, then reading this nonsense can be finished on this phrase.
                1. Fin
                  Fin 11 January 2014 14: 49
                  +8
                  Quote: IRBIS
                  And if we also take into account that we do not have the General Staff of the Navy, then reading this nonsense can be finished on this phrase.

                  A competition for "children's drawing" was announced, the results were summed up, the first place, as always, was taken by the most ridiculous in their language - creative. And given their specialization - the development of watches and websites, what is there to discuss?
            2. Botanologist
              Botanologist 11 January 2014 11: 20
              +1
              Quote: Mechanic
              Students drew them and this monster took first place, although there were more interesting proposals.

              At the output, we get something completely different.
            3. da113
              da113 11 January 2014 22: 20
              +3
              It’s a pity that nonsense, the picture is painfully good. It would be nice if 10 such pieces were built !!!
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 05
            +2
            Quote: A.YARY
            good afternoon

            Yeah hello, listen, you asked me so many questions here that I’ll answer briefly. Finish thumping !!!
            1. A.YARY
              A.YARY 11 January 2014 11: 20
              +2
              And I have the 13th wife’s birthday — double pleasure. And a quarter of cognac. And lard, and ram, and cabbage with pepper .....
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 25
                +1
                Quote: A.YARY
                And a quarter of cognac. And lard, and ram, and cabbage with pepper .....

                Yes, I noticed, and my wife hi winked
                1. A.YARY
                  A.YARY 11 January 2014 11: 33
                  +1
                  Yeah. And she thinks I'm a bum.
                  And I am a BUG BUG wassat
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: A.YARY
                    And I am a BUG BUG

                    Well, actually noticeable laughing
                    1. Andrey Yuryevich
                      Andrey Yuryevich 11 January 2014 15: 33
                      +3
                      Well, actually noticeable laughing it even smells .... with a skate ... wassat
                  2. dmitrij.blyuz
                    dmitrij.blyuz 12 January 2014 06: 22
                    0
                    By glass, by small, pour, pour, pour ...
              2. IRBIS
                IRBIS 11 January 2014 14: 30
                +4
                Quote: A.YARY
                And a quarter of cognac.

                It's good!
                Quote: A.YARY
                And lard, and ram, and cabbage with pepper .....

                Alexey! Well, who is eating this cognac?
              3. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 11 January 2014 21: 34
                +1
                Quote: A.YARY
                And I have the 13th wife’s birthday — double pleasure.

                And my wife’s birthday is on the 13th, there’s no sheep’s current, and three geese and two turkeys, my niece brought from the Stavropol region dumplings and dumplings, as many as 500 pieces. fellow laughing
          3. mirag2
            mirag2 11 January 2014 13: 41
            0
            Well, that's just a winning project.
            I remember about this contest here, by the way, like the article was, and it was like 3 pieces- (of projects).
            And build Nowhere, unfortunately, Putin fired someone-the governor? -Do not hear about the disruption of the construction of the shipyard (by the way at the Far)?
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 27 October 2016 18: 18
              0
              Yes, it would be something to build ... It is very similar to Fy 117. So it will walk on the sea.
              So I immediately became interested - where are they going to clean the helicopter? I did not see the hangar, there is no place for it on the deck, under the deck? Duck there too ...
              Of weapons only a gun? True to the add-on you can stick a lot of PAR. This is perhaps the only plus.
          4. Asgard
            Asgard 11 January 2014 18: 14
            +3
            Probably in the same mood (under the driver)) and wrote a note with fantastic drawings)))))
            Not a reliable source .....
            Navy Headquarters(is that really such a thing ??? and is it in nature?))))
            Watch Design and Web Designer -Know about stability, resonance of the cases, microwave radiation and wave propagation .....
            very doubtful ....

            BUT, given that wait completely illiterate "Vasilievs" in skirts decide who and what won, in the troops of the Ministry of Emergency Situations (demon) sheep and "the country rises from its knees"))))))) in the opinion of the media and cheers-patriots ...

            I’m not surprised ...
            Nonsense, PROJECT And worthy of only drawing in computer shooter ....
            The discussion can be finished, neither minus nor plus was put to the article, ZERO, but A, Yarom + ,,,, and let's get out of the binge (although the guy writes accordingly to this "inventiveness", on intuition)))))
        2. AVV
          AVV 11 January 2014 12: 32
          +3
          For a ship to sail well, it must be beautiful, and symmetry is a guarantee of beauty !!!
          1. fider
            fider 29 October 2016 10: 31
            0
            I agree - one good hole in the small case, and it will fill with water and roll over.
        3. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 11 January 2014 13: 13
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Eugene - on web design, Mechanic, have you created this?


          Why weren't LGBT people, hipsters and bloggers involved in the creation of the project?
          1. JIaIIoTb
            JIaIIoTb 11 January 2014 18: 58
            +1
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Eugene - on web design, Mechanic, have you created this?


            Why weren't LGBT people, hipsters and bloggers involved in the creation of the project?


            It’s scary to imagine the design of the ship by them laughing
        4. Civil
          Civil 11 January 2014 14: 50
          0
          So it’s not clear .. approved or not ?!
          1. Sakmagon
            Sakmagon 11 January 2014 22: 27
            +4
            Here, many noticed American helicopters, well, here you are ...

            DECIDED - TURNS WILL NOT BE!
            Navy headquarters adopted a new concept, conversion:

            SHORT, MUZHI, STOP THINKING!
            SAVE THE LIVER BEFORE BAPTISM!
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 11 January 2014 13: 13
      +1
      Quote: Christian
      We are waiting and hope!


      And we believe ... however, the standard set.
    3. Army1
      Army1 11 January 2014 14: 13
      0
      Something I did not understand about the tactical strike weapons Caliber-nk in the picture 8x8 = 64? rockets, not bad for such a boat.
      1. yehat
        yehat 14 March 2017 15: 42
        0
        now modular weapons have become more or less compact and can be placed on fairly cramped ships
    4. Army1
      Army1 11 January 2014 14: 26
      0
      Another interesting topic is with autonomous combat underwater robots with torpedo weapons.
    5. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 11 January 2014 15: 12
      0
      Oh, will they want to build, they will find a thousand reasons to cover up the unique project, because three years have already passed and nothing is heard yet, I myself am following this project, well done guys wiped their noses from the navy to the academics. , such a breakthrough in shipbuilding, sorry.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 11 January 2014 17: 28
        +3
        Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
        find a thousand reasons to gloss over a unique project

        What is its uniqueness?
    6. varov14
      varov14 11 January 2014 15: 29
      +6
      “This ship is distinguished not only by its futuristic appearance, unusual to the eye, but also by fundamentally new materials,” as long as it does not dissolve in water in the future.
      1. yehat
        yehat 14 March 2017 15: 43
        0
        this already happened - destroyers built with aluminum superstructures, their water simply ate.
  2. pv1005
    pv1005 11 January 2014 08: 20
    +7
    What should we build a house? Draw will live!
  3. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 11 January 2014 08: 21
    +7
    It is painfully futuristic. The Russian Navy is quite conservative ... I don’t think it will.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 11 January 2014 19: 54
      +2
      Quote: Prapor-527
      The Russian Navy is quite conservative ..

      In fact - this ship was made for the Egyptian Navy - well, they cannot at sea without pyramids. wassat
    2. theadenter
      theadenter 12 January 2014 07: 09
      +1
      Stealth. A pile of radio invisibility.
  4. serg. 555
    serg. 555 11 January 2014 08: 26
    +1
    How many such ships are built in the world to be built?
    1. Lyapis
      Lyapis 11 January 2014 08: 32
      +10
      The only thing that comes to mind is the American Zumwalt (though this is a destroyer) and their other handicrafts in this direction.
      Our apparently decided to surpass the Americans in the degree of futurism and extravagance of design.
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      2. 11 black
        11 black 12 January 2014 13: 16
        +4
        Well, "Zumvolt" is not quite that, it has a displacement of 14000 tons, it is a destroyer
        But they also have a project "LCS-2", so this boat is already very similar to this creation laughing but there is no mention of 64 cells of the UVP, only 21 missiles "Rome116" which is not surprising given such a displacement ...
        And about the article - well, of course, everything is extremely unreliable, but of course I would like to get something like that, BUT NOT IN AN OPTIONAL, AS AT LEAST HALF OF THE "CALIBERS" SHOULD BE REPLACED BY "POLYMENT-REDUT" "it looks just idiocy, which by the way already says a lot about the creators of this project ...

        here is a photo of Independence
  5. sds555
    sds555 11 January 2014 08: 27
    +6
    fellow It seems that these designers began to forget this sketch after the corporate, not otherwise drinks
    1. avg
      avg 11 January 2014 13: 44
      +3
      Quote: sds555
      It seems that these designers began to forget this sketch after the corporate, not otherwise
      Right Instead of helicopters, you can finish a couple of Turuk Macto and you can hangover. fellow
    2. lelik613
      lelik613 11 January 2014 14: 13
      +1
      Nanotechnological megachizophrenia. Where "Zumvalt" with a hoof there and our crayfish with a claw. "Korap" exclusively for pauas.
  6. max73
    max73 11 January 2014 08: 31
    +4
    the news smiled. guys, I'm sure, and "an underwater aircraft carrier-battleship" will draw ... and I have a ratsukha too - I suggest sending a mechanic from my factory to some ship of the US Navy for a similar position ...)))
    1. m262
      m262 11 January 2014 12: 19
      0
      Take mine there too wassat
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 11 January 2014 13: 31
        +1
        Quote: m262
        Take mine there too


        Well, you guys are the aggressors. Well what bad amerskie boats have done to you. So they dissolve by themselves, and you go there and all their "specialists". This is not Christian. lol
        1. rolik
          rolik 11 January 2014 13: 46
          +2
          Quote: Hedgehog
          So they dissolve by themselves, and you go there and all their "specialists". This is not Christian.

          To speed up the process and for the sake of humanity, so that they suffer less while they dissolve.
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 13: 57
      +5
      Quote: max73
      the news smiled. The guys, I'm sure, will also draw the "underwater aircraft carrier-battleship" ...

      Already heard and done. Nearly...

      Low potential environmental submarine

      The principle of operation is based on a low potential energy source. The kinetic energy of water molecules.
      The engine operates in two modes.
      The first mode is the launcher. When energy is consumed during engine operation to pump low temperature into a tank with a cooled coolant. The second mode, when the necessary temperature difference is set for the effective operation of the Stirling engine between its cold and warm parts. The second mode does not consume energy, but produces. You can say another crazy idea about perpetual motion machines. But this is not about the perpetual motion machine. This is a device capable of utilizing the thermal energy of the environment. Engulf her.
      Water around the unit loses temperature when it comes in contact with it. It absorbs heat into itself, transforming it into translational mechanical energy of the Stirling engine.


      1


      www.adaptive.com.ua/article/q0l4bfyu65nw.html
      1. yehat
        yehat 14 March 2017 15: 45
        0
        and not this submarine in the anime "steel alarm" is drawn?
  7. Nayhas
    Nayhas 11 January 2014 08: 33
    +13
    This is some kind of shame ... Design of the ship is being developed by designers! Stylists also connected?
    I hope this is not serious.
    Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the appearance of the ship was always created on the basis of the technical specifications and the research carried out, and not the imagination of lovers ...
    1. demel2
      demel2 11 January 2014 10: 02
      +2
      Not so long ago, the same figures blinded a model of a new spacecraft from papier mache, probably also not bad grandmothers raped and they and the organizers of the contest.
    2. TRex
      TRex 11 January 2014 10: 16
      +9
      Let's remember - how many different "revolutionary" projects did our craftsmen make from VAZ cars? As a result, we have a yellow Lada-Kalina ...
      When will the new equipment go to the Black Sea Fleet? No need for "futurism", hand over the ships of the approved model. Where is "Brisk"? Where is "Ivan Gren"?
      And in general - "I ask you not to express yourself in my house!"
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 11 January 2014 13: 34
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      Design of the ship is developed by designers

      And in Israel similarly created a super-duper weapon "Tavor". True, this device has not yet received such distribution as the Kalashnikov. And it is unlikely to receive. But the fact is obvious. And advertising too.
  8. My address
    My address 11 January 2014 08: 34
    +1
    Handsomely. But how to maneuver, so as not to hurt the left catamaran which squiggle? In aviation, asymmetric aircraft did not take root.

    Sailors hi ! Evaluate in terms of operation.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 12: 37
      +15
      Quote: My address
      In aviation, asymmetric aircraft did not take root.

      Do not take root in the navy too !!!
      1. Possibility of mooring with only one side (right).
      2. Different wave loads, even with slight excitement, will lead to the fact that "the vessel will tend to overkill" through the starboard side.
      3. Agility no. Different turning radii. Those who rode a motorcycle with a stroller will understand.
      4. Additional difficulties with ballasting.

      There are many "concepts" in the world shipbuilding industry, but such "model curves" usually do not go beyond the experimental pool.
      Lesson for the ship-modeling circle and "dispensers".
      1. rugor
        rugor 11 January 2014 12: 52
        +1
        is there a spaceship in the picture?
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 11 January 2014 12: 57
          +2
          Yes, the battleship of the "Stalingrad" class (the main striking force of the Russian fleet in the 26th century). Whoever read "Tomorrow War" by A. Zorich will remember and understand soldier
        2. Ptah
          Ptah 11 January 2014 13: 51
          +5
          Quote: rugor
          is there a spaceship in the picture?

          As you wish....
          I just thought about it. Tomorrow is a day off. I will open this picture in Photoshop, "cut" the lower part, giving the shape of the ship's hull. It is possible in the form of the "polymaran" type.
          Then I'll drag "Cinema4D" into the program, add a surface. imitating the water surface, you can also storm. I'll put it on "time-line" to add dynamics and rendering to the AVI file.
          Everything. The competition is won. Where to get the fee?

          Threat. I almost forgot. We need to add a couple of explosions around. For the entourage ....
        3. rolik
          rolik 11 January 2014 13: 52
          +2
          Quote: rugor
          is there a spaceship in the picture?

          The author of the picture is A. Berezin, a science fiction alternativeist. Read his books, very interesting.
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 11 January 2014 14: 55
      +7
      Asymmetric yacht Asian Lady shows excellent driving performance (in particular, seaworthiness, stability on course, handling, agility, etc.)
      VI 2400 tons. diesel 2000 l. with. (10-15 times less powerful than on corvettes or RTOs) gives 15 knots and a range of 10 miles. Survived the last tsunami and continues to plow the oceans

      http://robbreport.ru/article/?articleid=192&rubricid=2
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 11 January 2014 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: Tlauicol
        Asymmetric yacht Asian Lady shows excellent driving performance (in particular, seaworthiness, stability on course, handling, agility, etc.)

        These are far from all the necessary qualities for a BATTLE ship. Especially for Russia, surrounded by 3 \ 4 sea coasts, with ice swimming conditions.
        Below are my comments on multi-body designs.
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol 11 January 2014 18: 19
          +1
          Are the Black Sea skeg catamarans Bora and Samum not warships? The Black Sea is ours so far. The Mediterranean, the Chinese seas - a great scope for activity, if we are afraid of ice

          And catamarans went from the Arctic Ocean to the Atlantic around Canada, even more complex SWATH catamarans and tetramarans serve both in the Baltic and in the North Sea together with classmates. The Finns are developing an icebreaker-trimaran. In short, you need to try, the topic is interesting
        2. yehat
          yehat 14 March 2017 15: 51
          0
          and where did the demand for high maneuverability come from? why is it needed?
          I’m worried about another question - if the catamaran’s scheme is needed only to simplify the work of the helicopter, maybe something is wrong with the design? The end does not justify the means
  9. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 08: 34
    +7
    Hello everyone and everyone! I’ve only looked at this site for two years. I’ve registered first. There is simply an opinion. Do not judge strictly. Regarding the ship, what smoked the designer? It is incomprehensible that it belongs and the futuristic orientation of the structure.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 08: 42
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Regarding the ship, what smoked the designer?

      You liked the effect of grass, you want to buy wink
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 08: 48
        +2
        I don’t dabble. But nevertheless, oddities in their native country are sometimes poured over the edge!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 06
          0
          Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
          . But still, strangenesses in one's native country are sometimes poured over the edge!

          This vodka is to blame for everything, however, as always.
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 11: 17
            0
            I prefer the chaga. And you should talk physically with the designers! wassat
      2. Ptah
        Ptah 11 January 2014 12: 45
        +3
        Greetings, Sasha!
        What "image" are you in today? Narcologist? You ask everyone "who drank, who smoked?"
        Or a drug dealer? Do you find out the "effect", suggest new items "from the DV nerds"? belay
    2. pv1005
      pv1005 11 January 2014 09: 04
      +2
      And where did you see the designers there? Two designers with creativity in their head instead of gray matter.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 09: 20
        0
        I completely agree! It is possible that the designer has nothing to do with it, But! What head did this pepelats enter? Cannabis steers, in some places, however! request
    3. demel2
      demel2 11 January 2014 10: 08
      +2
      And another question is that those who awarded them the first prize smoked, because there people should be understanding. IMHO
    4. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 16: 20
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Hello to everyone and everyone!

      And hello and prosper to you! good
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Regarding the ship ... It is incomprehensible its belonging and the futuristic orientation of the structure.

      Therefore, the questions must be posed somewhat differently. And not "that the constructor smoked?"
      Here, besides Sasha Romanov, few people will answer this burning question (for you). winked
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Nonche registered.

      Rare activity was noticeably manifested.
      In crowded but not mad..... laughing hi
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 12 January 2014 05: 19
        +1
        Mutually about prosperity! hi I ask questions as I want. And the question is not urgent for me. And reading Alexander Romanov’s comments is a real pleasure! Regarding rare activity, you also don’t miss the site. And if it's a bit crowded, it’s warmer! Respectfully. hi
    5. alone
      alone 11 January 2014 18: 01
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      about the ship, what smoked the designer? It is incomprehensible that it belongs and the futuristic orientation of the structure.


      I don’t know what smoked, but the quality is probably of the highest grade.
  10. clidon
    clidon 11 January 2014 08: 34
    +4
    Corvette "Scary" ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 07
      +1
      Quote: clidon
      Corvette "Scary" ...

      Rather "Strange"
  11. SPACE
    SPACE 11 January 2014 08: 42
    +6
    Sorry, but this is nonsense nonsense! It is necessary to build submarine destroyers with anti-aircraft strike, anti-ship, anti-submarine and anti-ground capabilities in conjunction with satellites of passive radar, active radar and specific optical reconnaissance and target designation!
  12. SibRUS
    SibRUS 11 January 2014 08: 45
    0
    In the picture "Irakez" is taken for Ka-27, perhaps the model of the ship is also not ours.
  13. politruk419
    politruk419 11 January 2014 08: 51
    +8
    Mdyayaya ... if you launch on December 30, 2020. all that the USC has planned, it will not be necessary to fight. We will flood America by ... er in a tidal wave! And from both directions. By the Potomac and the Mississippi ....
    As for the design, then against the background of the full-time Zumvolt, our very sipy.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 14: 16
      +1
      Quote: politruk419
      We will flood America by ... er in a tidal wave!

      Andrei, don’t you know that the poly-ram buildings have significantly reduced wave formation due to the splitting of the flow into several.
      Hence the gain in power up to 15%. It is easier to "wash off" on _er "with a hundred boats of project 241. Those" drive the wave, so drive ", especially in front of you, better in both directions.
      Quote: politruk419
      As for the design, then against the background of the full-time Zumvolt, our very sipy.

      Yes nuuuu .... the Zumvolt chisel is already walking, and "our" is unlikely to turn "into iron" ....
      1. yehat
        yehat 14 March 2017 15: 53
        0
        Zamvolt basically costs, hardly walks
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 11 January 2014 08: 57
    0
    Something his weapons are too small, in fact he is almost defenseless. He can only serve in the border coastal zones no more. as a warship even of medium radius, it is useless. Moreover, this is a promising project, i.e. its production will be in the future.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 11 January 2014 09: 06
      +5
      Colleague! You yourself answered your own question, for ......The main tasks of modern corvettes are anti-submarine defense of a ship’s compound (convoy) or coastal facility (naval base, port ............ And for this, powerful strike missile systems are not needed. winked
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    3. S-200
      S-200 11 January 2014 12: 19
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Something his weapons are too small, in fact he is almost defenseless.

      and you didn’t notice 8 sections (for vertical launch missiles) on the “TOP view” behind the wheelhouse? There you can place anti-ship missiles and anti-aircraft missiles - modules ...
  15. major071
    major071 11 January 2014 08: 59
    +7
    сообщил untrustworthy source at the General Staff of the Russian Navy.

    The phrase generally killed ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: major071
      The phrase generally killed ...

      What a project, such a source laughing
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 11 January 2014 09: 46
        0
        The project is nonsense of a madman ... wassat
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 11 January 2014 13: 03
          +4
          Quote: Prapor-527
          The project is nonsense of a madman ...

          No one is mistaken who does nothing !!!
          Among the projects there are many non-standard solutions, but what they are and are disruptive at the same time is highly doubtful.
          Firstly, these "winner" projects already have several foreign analogues. In Russia (alas) at this stage in the role of CUTTING-UP.
          Secondly, since the seventies of the last century, much attention has been paid to the design of multihull ships of various purposes in the USSR.
          Thirdly, for the sake of low radar visibility, the dimensions and armament of ships have been significantly reduced. It is noticeably "smaller", which will undoubtedly affect the firepower. Plus a small crew size, small stocks of ammunition, fuel, food, etc., short cruising range and autonomy. Well, from this follows a very modest and specific combat significance of such ships. So breakthrough technology in this case does not work, although the technical solutions themselves are very interesting.
          Personally, I like the most possible embodiment "in iron", the project of the corvette "Rusich" (special prize at that competition)
          1
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 30 October 2016 19: 48
            +1
            Quote: Ptah
            Personally, I like the most possible embodiment "in iron", the project of the corvette "Rusich" (special prize at that competition)

          2. svp67
            svp67 30 October 2016 19: 52
            0
            Quote: Ptah
            project corvette Rusich

            Nice. There is something from a modern yacht in it, although it can be a turn.

            Here is the yacht "A" of the Russian billionaire Andrey Melnichenko

    2. creak
      creak 11 January 2014 10: 23
      +6
      And the source is not trustworthy, if only because the General Staff of the Navy does not exist, but the General Staff. Well, if you confused in such a question ....
      1. avt
        avt 11 January 2014 10: 42
        -1
        Quote: ranger
        And the source is not trustworthy, if only because the General Staff of the Navy does not exist, but the General Staff.

        You so agree that the Scale does not exist, in the sense of the Camouflage headquarters. laughing Here, accept, you will participate in the competition and a glitch or a squirrel spends in it for the award.
  16. mountain
    mountain 11 January 2014 09: 05
    +3
    So Russia’s future is not far off, and what a future. Well done guys.
  17. mark1
    mark1 11 January 2014 09: 16
    +1
    A very narrow body suggests that a torpedo or anti-ship missile system will crush him, poor fellow, in half. In my opinion, the trimaran scheme is preferable. In addition to the fashionable design in the TTZ, was such a parameter as the survivability of the ship (not only "stealth") included?
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 13: 10
      +3
      Quote: mark1
      Trimaran scheme in my opinion is preferable.

      It seemed to me that the "entertainers" were trying to make something that no one else had.
      Trimaran in many respects is preferable to a multi-hull catamaran. But the British Navy already has a trimaran corvette. In the model.

      1


      But there is also a Triton afloat. It should be noted right away that in fact the "Triton" is not a full-fledged combat ship, but only a prototype of a real ship, approximately 2/3 life-size, It was created specifically for the purpose of testing and testing in practice the capabilities and potential of innovative technologies and the subsequent reduction of the risks of using trimaran-type hulls for promising warships of the 21st century. / o kaaak, I said a little ... /
      At Britons, he passed under the designation trimaran demonstrator (demo trimaran) or RV - research vessel (research vessel)
      2

      3
  18. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 11 January 2014 09: 31
    +4
    Star Wars ...
    Mliin, I begin to believe that Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader exist too and are just around the corner ... I hope I will see them soon ....
    1. sub307
      sub307 11 January 2014 09: 49
      +2
      Well, yes - the future begins today.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 10: 15
      0
      Scandinavian! You are not alone in this! +
    4. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2014 11: 37
      0
      Quote: Scandinavian
      ..hope I will see them soon

      I, too! hi
      I run away only for cognac drinks
    5. rolik
      rolik 11 January 2014 14: 06
      +2
      Quote: Scandinavian
      that Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader exist too and are just around the corner ... I hope I will see them soon ..

      In any neuropsychiatric dispensary, there are Darth Vaders, Luke Skywalkers, and most likely, even Chubaki. But you can only see them if you are dressed in a space suit with long sleeves tied behind your back. And for an early acquaintance with these heroes, it is advised to watch REN TV every day interspersed with HOUSE-2.
      Maybe well nafig them. Let us think about the vital for our Motherland, and embody this vital with the proper quality.
  19. ZU-23
    ZU-23 11 January 2014 09: 51
    +2
    I personally like the designs of such corvettes, we are waiting for their embodiment in reality.
  20. bddrus
    bddrus 11 January 2014 09: 51
    +2
    Is it chasing this ?:
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 10: 18
      +3
      This trough rusts quickly enough. The mattresses themselves are sad. Although the idea is worth respect.
      1. bddrus
        bddrus 11 January 2014 19: 19
        +2
        it is possible, but it saddens me that we only consider the drawing and call it futuristic, but with users this is already on the go
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 12 January 2014 06: 32
          0
          Our time will come. As soon as the Bear leaves the wounds. So when you get up, the squeaks will be behind the ultrasound. No mattress chicken can even squeak in the direction of Potapych. This time will come. I believe.
  21. tlauicol
    tlauicol 11 January 2014 09: 59
    0
    The USC press release said that the Strog corvette would become part of the Russian Navy in 2014. fool
  22. Bosk
    Bosk 11 January 2014 10: 08
    +3
    And why not ... if the economy can afford it, then you can try empirically to try, build one such ship and drive another for a year. To be ahead of the rest of the world, you can make a mistake once, but I think it's better to make a mistake a couple of times than to play catch-up.
  23. major071
    major071 11 January 2014 10: 12
    +5
    About the authors of the project:
    Alex specializes in watch design, Eugene specializes in web design,

    Too futuristic. For reality, at least a cuckoo clock would add something ...
  24. standby
    standby 11 January 2014 10: 40
    +3
    A very narrow body suggests that a torpedo or anti-ship missile system will crush him, poor fellow, in half. In my opinion, the trimaran scheme is preferable. In addition to the fashionable design in the TTZ, was such a parameter as the survivability of the ship (not only "stealth") included?


    The very narrow hull suggests that the ship will have to have good speed characteristics! I am quite sure that such a characteristic as "unbreakability" is not applied by designers to a ship of this class! Torpedoes and missiles must be opposed by powerful anti-submarine weapons and air defense, and the speed here may not be the most, but an important parameter! The trimaran scheme .. well, it might look prettier, but I suggest taking into account the operating conditions in the regions, ice, for example (not arctic, of course), sludge! Here and the catamaran is doubtful, it seems to me, not to mention the trimaran! And at the expense of what he saw ... Well, the designers did it, it turned out boldly and beautifully, a beautiful ship - it goes beautifully !!! The guys did their job in an original and laconic way! If the business moves beyond the design project, it will already be the result of the joint work of them, designers, engineers, etc., I want to believe that everything will work out. Good luck! drinks
    1. Armata
      Armata 11 January 2014 11: 03
      0
      Quote: Standby
      Trimaran scheme.
      What trimaran? request Is there an 3 case made with full stealth technology ?.
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 14: 35
      +1
      Certainly, a multihull design has several advantages over a traditional singlehull for a ship of similar or similar displacement.

      The trimaran hull allows you to reduce the resistance of water, respectively, increases the speed of the ship's full speed. Today, there is a tendency to increase full speed speeds of some types of promising warships (such as American littoral warships), compared to the speeds of existing ships. However, this speed for ships of small and medium displacement is limited not so much by the power reserve as by seaworthiness, so more seaworthy ships will also have an advantage in achievable speeds.
      All multihull vessels and ships are more or less distinguished by increased seaworthiness. For example, a catamaran has less side roll, with keel pitch almost identical to a single-hull ship. Higher stability of the ship as a weapon carrier platform allows expanding capabilities with the use of additional equipment and weapons.
      All multihull architectural and structural schemes are distinguished by increased deck area per ton of displacement. Therefore, it is multihull schemes that are most convenient from the point of view of ensuring a given deck area. This is especially important for promising ships. At the same time, corvettes should spend most of their military service patrolling the waters at low speeds; accordingly, their hull shape should be optimized for these conditions.
    3. mark1
      mark1 11 January 2014 19: 16
      +1
      Quote: Standby
      The very narrow hull suggests that the ship should have good speed characteristics! I am quite sure that such a characteristic as "unbreakability" is not applied by designers to a ship of this class! Torpedoes and missiles must be opposed by powerful anti-submarine weapons and air defense,

      A ship of this class has a purely utilitarian purpose - protection of the water area, good speed characteristics are certainly good, but the balance of all combat qualities is much more important, but this is not the case with the “Polynesian pie with counterweight”. It’s good when, while guarding BP, your boat protects all the power of the Red Army and not one shell reaches you, but if it does? - “our proud“ Varangian ”does not surrender to the enemy? The ship is a one-time one - a one-time destroyer.
  25. Leshka
    Leshka 11 January 2014 10: 42
    +1
    beautiful ship
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 January 2014 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: Leshka
      beautiful ship

      In, and here the author of the project came to Sait laughing
    2. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 11: 20
      -3
      Opachki! Cool opinion. Killed without a shot! wassat
  26. igordok
    igordok 11 January 2014 11: 06
    0
    Alexey specializes in watch design, Eugene - in web design, and this naval experience for both was the first. But success is explained simply by a long-standing, since childhood, love for everything connected with the sea.

    Recently, there was an article about a U.S. Navy ship, which was dissolved in sea water, designed by designers. As if this did not work out.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 11: 24
      0
      So this is (maybe already) a trimaran shtatovsky.
  27. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 11 January 2014 11: 26
    +1
    Judging by the minuses to the article, someone really does not like the revival of our fleet, and this is significant ...
    Good topic, very bold direction.
    The line of ships of modular designs should be developed.
    Start with corvettes, and then to aircraft carriers with nuclear power plants.
    It is important to engage creative people.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 11: 32
      +1
      Regarding the development of trimarans, I agree with you. The direction is very promising. The main thing is to prevent such mistakes as in this trough. All the same, the Americans (my opinion) are rather weak in the development of new technologies. Well! Then we will steer ... soldier
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 11 January 2014 11: 32
    +2
    I don’t know whether the new new corvette for the Russian Navy will look like or not, but this model has a huge minus - its asymmetry. One can see a dozen problems here - difficulty in command, hence the high cost of the control system, lack of experience in operating and repairing military vessels in such a performance, additional energy costs for stabilizing the vessel at the heading, etc.
    It is more logical to use the trimaran system, like the Americans have, two Zumwalt-class destroyers. Although after reading this phrase, the questions should dissolve by themselves
    , said an unreliable source in the General Staff of the Russian Navy
  29. Gato
    Gato 11 January 2014 11: 34
    +2
    Once upon a time I read in the journal "Technics-Youth" a snide note about Kaiser Wilhelm, who, as we know, considered himself an unsurpassed specialist in many fields, especially in shipbuilding. So, Wilhelm (by the way, he is also an excellent draftsman) drew up a project of an ideal cruiser and sent it for "technical examination".
    The recall of loyal shipbuilders was naturally enthusiastic fellow : type, excellent ship, powerful weapons, impenetrable armor, speed and range, comfort for the crew, etc.
    There is only one ma-a-scarlet flaw: as soon as the cruiser is launched, it will immediately sink to the bottom with an iron, since the calculated buoyancy turned out to be categorically negative request
    This is to say that the web designer may be technically more competent than the emperor, but it would be better if he was engaged in sites, not ships.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 11: 39
      +2
      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
  30. S-200
    S-200 11 January 2014 11: 43
    +3
    Please note that:
    competition announced by USC ..
    и blamed they, not site bark.. lol
    obviously, according to the terms of the competition (TK), designers were able to satisfy the requirements of shipbuilders for EXTERNAL appearance (forms)!
    on small ships you can work out and develop a concept for large-capacity ...
    I liked the design with a certain logic, completeness and stealth aesthetics
    PS We will see to our joyful screeching, if suddenly in 2016 \ 17 years USC at the shipyard will lay this corvette (frigate) ... wink
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2014 20: 23
      0
      Quote: S-200
      obviously, according to the terms of the competition (TK), designers were able to satisfy the requirements of shipbuilders for EXTERNAL appearance (forms)!

      I’m not sure that I alone think that ship design does not begin with external design, but with a general strategic doctrine, the definition of its goals and objectives within the framework of this doctrine, the long and tedious coordination of the ship's technical characteristics and the composition of weapons and systems (as one of the components a whole system of weapons), the capabilities of the military-industrial complex, etc., etc.
      And the described approach is only suitable for developing a new coffee maker. Well, or a monument to the ambitions of some "military leaders".
    2. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2014 20: 25
      -1
      Quote: S-200
      if suddenly in 2016 \ 17 years USC at the shipyard will lay this corvette (frigate)

      Yeah, instead of an aircraft carrier (or together?) laughing
  31. Saburo
    Saburo 11 January 2014 11: 56
    0
    Yes, this is USS Independence. Only for some reason asymmetric.
    1. S-200
      S-200 11 January 2014 11: 59
      +1
      Quote: Saburo
      Yes, this is USS Independence. Only for some reason asymmetric.

      this is to your enemies the Chinese it was harder ... copy! lol
      PS even in such trifles Russia goes to meet you! Appreciate, Japanese ... bully
  32. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 11 January 2014 12: 07
    +2
    In vain, the Cossacks swear. After a while we will see. There would be technological capacities and the desire of the state to raise the fleet to the proper level.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 12: 19
      +1
      It seems that there are no opportunities yet. The desire of the state is at the level of a chansonette.
  33. igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 11 January 2014 12: 31
    +3
    Hi, looking at what was painted here colorfully, it caused a nagging feeling that something similar didn’t seem to you, In the distant 80 of the last century very similar pictures were often published in one interesting publication (TM) and aimed at young people, It often flickered a similar description of what fit into those realities that there was just a small vent for the flight of fantasy and dream, Without a dream, the world is boring, A beautiful picture he is just a picture, Any ship designer will look at her and smile, Life is much more real and she presents her requirements and her abilities and they Unfortunately, they are much prosaic. The possibilities of our economy will always impose their unshakable laws on these drawings, and getting around them is much harder to accomplish a feat. And to solve these problems, they may require a lifetime of more than one person. These are the realities and one must proceed from them. such a breakthrough requires intermediate stages, but they will require solving so many conflicting problems that it will take a lot of time and effort
    1. standby
      standby 11 January 2014 14: 06
      +2
      But where to start solving them is necessary, albeit with a daring flight of imagination! laughing
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 15 January 2014 03: 23
        0
        I absolutely agree, Two interesting prototypes were still being built in the Union, But even in the Union they were tried by the designer and was not marked, and he looks at the fruits of his labor with chagrin, Even then at that far time there is no niche for some products, Too unusual their characteristics and application, I’m talking about two ships Monsoon and Bora, and if they do not fit into the fleet system then what can we talk about then revolutionary ships Alekseev-ekranoleta, If then they confused the leadership of the Navy, now they are trying to keep silent about them, by the way look carefully at these boat and many questions simply will not be needed,
  34. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 11 January 2014 12: 33
    +2
    Quote: My address
    Handsomely. But how to maneuver, so as not to hurt the left catamaran which squiggle? In aviation, asymmetric aircraft did not take root.

    Sailors hi ! Evaluate in terms of operation.

    here, judging by the picture, the ship will constantly "tuck" in the direction of the float. Moreover, the float does not have a propeller. Maybe I'm wrong. Imho. Good morning, everyone
    1. VadimL
      VadimL 11 January 2014 13: 03
      +5
      At the expense of "tucking" - not necessary, if you correctly adjust the thrust vector of the screws. But the fact that the radii of circulation will be different along the sides is a fact. In addition, there is a possibility that at the slightest excitement at high speed, the ship will begin to "chat" along the course.
      And further. With sufficiently strong excitement, a lighter float will move in a vertical plane with a significantly larger amplitude than a more massive main body, and this will make it extremely difficult for helicopters to take off and land.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 11 January 2014 14: 52
        0
        Greetings, namesake. Thanks for the good comments. good In the majority - balabolstva those who do not understand.
        In addition to the above, there are a few more points.
        1: Studies have shown that, ideally, outriggers of a trimaran (mandatory symmetrical in DP) should be located outside the region of waves generated by the central body. This minimizes the wave interaction of the main body and outriggers, but leads to a very significant (about 35% of the length) overall width. We can conclude that such a scheme, because of its large width, is suitable specifically for small ships with a displacement of up to 2000 tons, that is, for corvettes. However, on small ships it is most problematic to realize the possible favorable wave interaction between the hull and outriggers.
        2: Docking conditions for a multi-hull ship are more complicated than for a single-hull ship. The absence of the docks themselves of the required dimensions will lead to the inability to service the ships.
        Trimarans with schemes adopted by the English and in domestic studies are distinguished by short onboard outriggers, the length of which is approximately 1 / 2 the length of the main body. This will lead to serious problems with the mooring of the ship (both stern and side), which is unacceptable, since corvettes must be served by crews with a basic (average) level of training. Hence the difficulties with basing the ship.
        3: One of the most serious problems of multihull ships and ships is slimming, and in this case it’s more correct to speak not about classic bottom slaming, but about the impact of waves affecting the structure connecting the outriggers or onboard hulls to the main hull. In this case, shock loads can be so high that the entire structure can be seriously damaged. This affects the habitability of the crew.
        For the northern seas of Russia, ships should be designed taking into account the possibility of their work in low temperatures, and simply in the ice. Even broken ice and sludge will present a serious problem for a multihull ship, since they will accumulate and get stuck between the hulls, negating all the advantages of the adopted scheme.
        It can be assumed that for ships of the "corvette" class the multihull scheme will bring more disadvantages rather than advantages. Probably, such conclusions forced the British to abandon plans to create trimaran corvettes.
        1. mine
          mine 15 January 2014 03: 58
          -1
          understandably, they quoted an article (and taking into account a number of undercover moments, a sketch would be more accurate) - "disassembled by the bones" Rudenko (2 articles in "Marine Collection")
  35. family tree
    family tree 11 January 2014 12: 46
    +6
    Yes, I found it, here it is laughing
    1. major071
      major071 11 January 2014 12: 58
      +5
      hi Greetings namesake!
      As I understand it, also from the latest developments? laughing
      1. family tree
        family tree 11 January 2014 13: 15
        +1
        Quote: major071
        As I understand it, also from the latest developments? laughing

        hi Good day!
        The latest and most extreme model for a post-apocalyptic future laughing
      2. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 13: 36
        -1
        Three days I’ll finish building. The problem with the stokers. We have to go to the ns market, hire the Chinese .....
  36. VadimL
    VadimL 11 January 2014 12: 52
    0
    This information is definitely not trustworthy. In my opinion, I have already seen such outlines somewhere. And the design is clearly American, just our "craftsmen" slightly retouched it.
    1. 120352
      120352 11 January 2014 13: 12
      -1
      Exactly! Somewhere in the 60s, in the magazine "Young Technician", such cases were drawn next to the drawings of the "Perpetual motion machines" as meaningless and impracticable. Cruisers are needed! Stop building junks !!!
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 13: 18
        +2
        Quote: 120352
        Exactly! Somewhere in the 60s, in the magazine "Young Technician", such cases were drawn next to the drawings of the "Perpetual motion machines" as meaningless and impracticable. Cruisers are needed! Stop building junks !!!

        Nifiga! We’ll even swim in shavings. But seriously, my uncle, mariman, went around the whole ball more than once. The merchant fleet. Not only he said, all the Moramen are in agreement with this — THERE IS NOT OUR FLEET IN THE OCEAN! Americans, Japanese, even Chinese. There are no Russians.
  37. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 11 January 2014 12: 56
    0
    What innovations are there! Frigate Gorshkov is far from being a masterpiece of shipbuilding, and he cannot get the USC for the fleet. They promised to convey in February 2009. Now here is Mr. Trotsenko, the new promise.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 14: 15
      -1
      Admiral Gren-in topic.
  38. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 11 January 2014 12: 56
    0
    Of course, you need a corvette, but ... What, normal ships have already forgotten how to design? .. Or do we now include copying foreign basins and troughs? ..
  39. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 13: 02
    -1
    Quote: archi.sailor
    Quote: My address
    Handsomely. But how to maneuver, so as not to hurt the left catamaran which squiggle? In aviation, asymmetric aircraft did not take root.

    Sailors hi ! Evaluate in terms of operation.

    here, judging by the picture, the ship will constantly "tuck" in the direction of the float. Moreover, the float does not have a propeller. Maybe I'm wrong. Imho. Good morning, everyone

    Do not go in cycles. This trough has no future.
  40. 120352
    120352 11 January 2014 13: 07
    +1
    There are more conversations about corvettes than corvettes. Well, will ships ever appear with us? And even talk about them is not heard.
  41. naughty
    naughty 11 January 2014 13: 09
    0
    The technique is built under the popliteck of computer maniacs, more than once saving our galaxy from the invasion of foreign creatures ... For them, such forms are just right.
  42. standby
    standby 11 January 2014 13: 18
    +1
    Quote: Mechanic
    Quote: Standby
    Trimaran scheme.
    What trimaran? request Is there an 3 case made with full stealth technology ?.


    Dear Mechanic! Above, I have a link to a badrus comment about the American corvette of the near sea zone ... And the comment on this, this comment was ..., and our project is closer to the catamaran, of course, read carefully!
    1. Armata
      Armata 12 January 2014 11: 36
      +2
      Quote: Standby
      and our project is closer to the catamaran

      Quote: Standby
      and our project is closer to the catamaran
      Not closer, and so it is a catamaran.
  43. q_556
    q_556 11 January 2014 13: 22
    0
    Well, why do we need this new (even virtual) project? At one time, the Navy command said that the series of project 20380 and 20385 corvettes, which were distinguished by low visibility, would not be increased, due to the low cruising range, low armament and extremely high price. So why develop this idea if the commander-in-chief does not see potential in it?
  44. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 13: 24
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    I don’t know whether the new new corvette for the Russian Navy will look like or not, but this model has a huge minus - its asymmetry. One can see a dozen problems here - difficulty in command, hence the high cost of the control system, lack of experience in operating and repairing military vessels in such a performance, additional energy costs for stabilizing the vessel at the heading, etc.
    It is more logical to use the trimaran system, like the Americans have, two Zumwalt-class destroyers. Although after reading this phrase, the questions should dissolve by themselves
    , said an unreliable source in the General Staff of the Russian Navy

    Like the ship itself. Withdrew from the fleet due to technological flaws. Do not run into me. Go to google. There is everything.
    1. clidon
      clidon 11 January 2014 13: 33
      0
      If you are talking about LCS then it is part of US NAVY. Being repaired ...
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 11 January 2014 13: 39
        -1
        About him. Alas. Bobik died. I can’t throw off the links (for now), but this piece of iron will not be back in operation. Although it’s a pity. The original design.
        1. clidon
          clidon 11 January 2014 17: 49
          +1
          I’m strangely reading about it from the bourgeoisie, on the contrary, everything is as before, the construction of the series continues, the third ship was launched. USS Independence is being repaired.
          And you can give the link "by simple" copy their address bar.
  45. spirit
    spirit 11 January 2014 14: 38
    +1
    )))) And on the thoroughfare the Pharaoh will be visible laughing
  46. kelevra
    kelevra 11 January 2014 15: 15
    0
    For a long time this project has been in the category of experiment. It’s good if, after all, they make a prototype, and start a series after it!
  47. edeligor
    edeligor 11 January 2014 16: 22
    +1
    It looks somewhat futuristic, what can you do, fashion, even in shipbuilding. I have a question, all these angles, symmetrical contours, a tribute to Stealth technology. Then why is there no hangar on the helipad to protect against exposure of the helicopter? One helicopter on the deck will increase the ship’s radio visibility at times. And yet, of course, in this I’m a teapot, why are we always weaving in the tail of overseas designers, it's not destiny to create our own? After all, there are so many talented people, teams, designers ...
  48. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 January 2014 17: 36
    +3
    Definitely stolen design from amers. Pancake. We do not need science fiction, we need technology for rapid serial construction. And then every ship almost 10 years doing. Personally, I would better approve the program for the total modernization of the existing fleet. And then still in 80's stuck.
  49. Patriot
    Patriot 11 January 2014 17: 46
    0
    corvettes it's good bad we have few ships building
  50. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 11 January 2014 17: 49
    +1
    Sorry, he reminds me of the Indonesian all-composite tri-missile boat project X3K Klewang, launched on 31 on August 2012 of the year.
    The Trimaran X3K was a completely innovative ship with futuristic architecture and layout. The boat had a "delta-shaped" deck-platform, resting on the central hull and two lateral outrigger floats. The entire structure of the X3K is made of one-piece composite (including a set of hulls and cladding), elements of Stealth technology are widely used in the architecture. The X3K boat has an empty displacement of about 130 tons, the greatest length is 62,53 meters and a width of 16 meters. Four MAN diesel engines with 1800 hp each. allow to develop a speed of up to 35 knots. The cruising range will be up to 2000 miles at a cruising speed of 16 knots. Autonomy 10 days.
    The alleged armament of the X3K boats for the Indonesian Navy was to include a 76-mm / 62 universal automatic artillery mount Oto Melara Super Rapid in a "stealth" version (perhaps actually a smaller caliber artillery mount), as well as four Chinese light anti-ship launchers "sunk" in the superstructure S-705 missiles with a firing range of up to 120 km. The boat's crew was 27 people, with the possibility of additional accommodation for a group of special forces. In a closed hangar at the rear of the superstructure, a semi-rigid high-speed motorboat should be accommodated.


    On 28 of September 2012 of the year around noon at Klewang, moored at the pier in the naval base in Banyuvangi, a fire broke out, literally in a matter of minutes, almost completely destroying the whole-composite trimaran construction (message). Thus, Klewang died without having time to go to sea.

    1. Ptah
      Ptah 11 January 2014 19: 42
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      Quote: Novel 1977
      Sorry, it reminds me of the Indonesian all-composite tri-missile boat project X3K Klewang

      Modeled on the computer forms of the cases, almost all resemble each other. The laws of hydrodynamics within the same planet - too. So - not one ... hi