Hizb ut-Tahrir in Tatarstan: ideology, organization structure, activity

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Hizb ut-Tahrir in Tatarstan: ideology, organization structure, activityReport at the All-Russian Scientific Conference "Islam and Russia: Cultural Traditions and Contemporary Challenges" (September 26-28, St. Petersburg 2013)

Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami (Islamic Liberation Party) was created in 1953 by a Sharia judge Taki ad-din al-Nabhani (1909-1977) in East Jerusalem. At the beginning of his career, Nabkhani was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood Muslim movement, but he later created his own organization, where the central idea was to create a caliphate - a global, planet-wide, Islamic state. AT stories There were already two caliphates in the Middle East - Arab and Ottoman, whose rulers bore the title of Caliph - the ruler of all Muslims, even those who did not live on the territory of these states. The Hizb ut-Tahrir proclaiming the caliphate also carries out its activities in Europe, especially in the United Kingdom, where one of the organization’s main offices is located. The second office is located in Beirut (Lebanon), and the Russian-language Hizb-ut-Tahrir information center is located in Stockholm (Sweden), from where the organization's sites are moderated in Russian.

Despite the fact that the Quran does not even mention the word “caliphate” at all, the ideologists of the party consider the creation of a caliphate as the religious duty (fard) of every Muslim. Since there is no caliphate now (the last Turkish Sultan Abdul-Mejid II was deprived of the Caliph title in 1924), the Hizb ut-Tahrir party is in favor of taking the oath to its leader. Today the organization is headed by Palestinian Ata Abu Rasht.

The methodology of Hizb ut-Tahrir includes several stages. Initially, they seek to organize cultural and social events related to Islam (charity dinners, picnics, cultural evenings, distribution of food or clothing to the poor). The purpose of such actions is to endear others. Often, their social work is aimed at attracting retirees who are beginning to harbor respect and appreciation for the attention given to them, telling their children and grandchildren about this. Cultural and educational work they pay great attention.

At the second stage, having gained favor with themselves, people from the Hizb ut-Tahrir party begin to talk about their organization and those who have shown interest are invited to circles (halakat) for the study of religious literature. Naturally, old people are not their target group for ideological processing, they are more often needed to cover up their activities, emphasis is placed on young people. The second stage is an ideological upheaval in the minds of people, expanding its influence on the population. This can be done more publicly, for example, to hold a rally, picket, rally, a procession with a demonstration of their attributes, usually in the form of a flag. The goal is to draw attention to the organization. At the same time, liberal human rights demagogy and populism are used. Representatives of the party themselves begin to say that they are in favor of the rights of Muslims; they can portray themselves as ardent supporters of the Constitution and secular laws of the state.

Finally, the third stage is the seizure of power into their own hands with the help of officials and society already sympathetic to them. At this stage they allow the use of weapons. A vivid proof of this is the active participation of Hizb ut-Tahrir in the war against the legitimate government of Syria. At the same time, despite certain ideological differences, they can easily be combined with other radical currents of Islam, for example, with the Wahhabis.

Externally, people in the Hizb ut-Tahrir party are no different from other Muslims. If Wahhabis can often be distinguished by short pants and thick beards, then Hizb ut-Tahrir members wear suits and ties. Beards are usually short, but do not oblige to wear the beard of their followers (you can find beardless party members). Listening to music, playing songs from them is not forbidden, unlike Wahhabism, since they believe that if it helps to attract more people, then it’s permissible. Therefore, on their actions you can see small concert programs, where singers perform with a repertoire on Islamic themes. They do not prohibit smoking.

The Hizb ut-Tahrir structure is a pyramid that includes seven levels: mu'tamad (chief leader on a state-scale), masul (head of a regional organization), musa'id (assistant of masul), nakib , district), Nakiba assistant, mushrif (head of one or several circles (halakat)), Shabab (an activist who already understood the ideology to the end and became a full member of the organization) and daris (member of the circle who is still a novice. The primary cell of the organization is already b It said that the study of religious literature is called the halalat consisting of 5-15 daris, led by the mushrif. Halakat classes are held twice a week. Once a month, there is a meeting of the mushrifs, during which practical and organizational issues are discussed. Naqib supplies literature , distributes funds and accepts donations. In addition to studying literature, circles give instructions on arrest cases, so those who are involved there know how to behave with the investigator and during arrest. Based on the instructions, people from Hizb ut-Tahrir always have a video camera ready to film the police. This is their favorite method of psychological pressure on law enforcement. Very defiant behave with the investigators. Getting into the bullpen or prison is perceived by them as a “baptism of fire” and as an opportunity to continue propaganda (dagvat) among cellmates. That is why, finding themselves in common cells, they immediately begin to recruit new members for the organization. At the same time, in situations that are dangerous for them, concealment or renunciation of membership in Hizb-ut-Tahrir (the principle of “takiya” - concealment of one's beliefs) is permissible, if it helps to avoid consequences that are more serious for a member of the organization.

The Hizb ut-Tahrir hierarchy may vary by state or region, may be more complex or more simplified. What remains common is that there is a lower, middle, and higher level in the organization.

Theologically, the main accusation against Hizb ut-Tahrir, which is put forward by representatives of traditional Islam for the indigenous Muslim peoples of Russia, is the refusal to recognize Hadiths of the Akhad category (transmitted by one transmitter) and to follow them. At the same time, most of the Sunni dogma is built on the Hadith of the Ahad category, and the Hadith Mutavatir (transmitted by several transmitters) is a very small number. Because of doubts about the authenticity of Hadith Ahad, the ideologues of Hizb ut-Tahrir deny the torture of the grave, Dajjal (the counterpart of the Antichrist in Islam), the circumstances of the arrival of Mahdi and Isa (Jesus) [1].

In Tatarstan, Hizb-ut-Tahrir appeared with migrants from Uzbekistan, one of the first masuleas was Alisher Usmanov (not to be confused with a famous major businessman), who started his activity in 1996 on arrival in Kazan, starting work in one of the local madrasas. Since the organization in our country was recognized as a terrorist and was banned only in 2003 by the decision of the Supreme Court of Russia, Usmanov carried out his activities quite legally for a long time [2]. It is from this time that one can speak of the beginning of the spread of the Hizb ut-Tahrir ideology in Tatarstan.

The fact that Hizb ut-Tahrir’s ideology is spreading through migrants is also recognized by law enforcement agencies / special services. Former Minister of Internal Affairs of Tatarstan, Asgat Safarov, writes in his memoirs that “gaining popularity in the Asian republics, the Hizbutchik people moved their activities to Russia.” “To do this, they actively used migrant workers from Central Asia, most of whom are Uzbek, converted to new faith” [3]. In December, 2006 was detained by 25 people involved in this organization in Kazan, and 12 were sentenced to prison sentences ranging from 4 to 8 years, and for the first time in Russia, they were charged under the article “Preparations for the Forcible Seizure of Power”.

The outstanding Tatar theologian Valiulla Yakupov, who was killed by 19 on July 2012 in the entrance of his house by one of the “amirs” of Tatarstan Robert Valeyev, quoted the Prophet Muhammad in one of his works: “After me, the Caliphate will be only 30 years, and then there will be just a kingdom”. “This hadith turned out to be a visionary,” wrote Valiullah-hazrat, “After the era of righteous caliphs (634-661), although many Muslim public entities were called“ caliphates ”and many leaders were“ caliphs ”, in fact, nothing to do with the essence of this phenomenon did not have. The “caliphs” of the middle ages were often engaged in the struggle for power for the throne and crown, not stopping in front of any bloody victims. In this regard, the caliphate disappeared not in the 1924 year, but much earlier, as the holy prophet warned us, ”concluded the late Kazan theologian [4].

An analysis of Hizb ut-Tahrir’s activity suggests that members of this party have their own interpretation of the Koran and their own worldview. As a religious-political movement, this organization is characterized by a negative attitude to secular power, the desire for power as the main strategic goal, the ideology of forming a political system, the presence of a caliphate building program and tactics of struggle, the possession of a developed propaganda apparatus and means of agitation. According to the Islamic theologian Said Shagaviyev, Hizb ut-Tahrir seeks to “split the Muslims of Russia and weaken, embroil among themselves, inciting Muslim youth against the state and their clergy” [5].

Muslim theologian Farid Salman notes that members of the Hizb-ut-Tahrir party demonstrate disrespect for the traditional canons of Russian Muslims even during Friday’s sermon in the mosque, when they can defiantly stand up, interrupt the imam’s speech and begin to argue with him, obviously with a view to public effect, proving that the clergy in matters of religion is illiterate and does not speak the truth, but they know it. Their characteristic feature is the belief in their uniqueness, that they know the truth. Often, the 3 sura of the Quran is cited where it says: "... And let there be among you a group that calls for good [Islam], orders approved and forbids what is deprecated" (Quran 3: 104), believing that this Koranic ayah is about them. This is their sectarian essence [6].

On closer examination, it becomes clear that Hizb ut-Tahrir refuses violence only in words, since it has never condemned other groups pursuing the same goal and using violence. This group has never condemned terrorist acts. As American researcher Zeino Baran writes, “in many ways Hizb ut-Tahrir is an element of the“ division of labor ”: she herself is engaged in active ideological training of Muslims, while other organizations are planning and conducting terrorist acts. Despite objections to such a characteristic, Hizb ut-Tahrir currently serves as a conveyor belt for terrorists [7].

The organization was most active in Tatarstan after the 19 July 2012 attack in Kazan, which was carried out by a group of "Mujahideen of Tatarstan" against regional mufti Ildus Faizov and Tatar theologian Valiulla Yakupov. The latter was killed in the entrance of his own house, and the head of the Muslims of Tatarstan was wounded. Launched operational-search activities of law enforcement agencies, which led to the detention of about a hundred and the arrest of suspects (subsequently released) by 7, led to the fact that representatives of the Hizb-ut-Tahrir party led by Rustem Safin, the imam of the Al “Ikhlas”, convicted in 2009 for membership in Hizb ut-Tahrir by suspended sentence, but managed to retain the post of imam of the mosque. 29 July, 5 August and 19 August, he and his followers organized pickets and rallies in Kazan, at which, from the initial liberal-rights-based demagogy, the participants soon turned to calls for the overthrow of secular power and the establishment of a caliphate. At the same time, Hizb ut-Tahrir symbolism was used. Despite the FSB special operation against militants from among the “Mujahideen of Tatarstan” held in Kazan on October 24 2012 of the year, Hizb ut-Tahrir organized mass motor rallies with the flags of October 26 and December 22 2012. A number of researchers are inclined to believe that the Islamist community of Tatarstan has three wings: fighting (terrorists from among the “Mujahideen of Tatarstan”), political (Hizb ut-Tahrir and participants of Islamist street rallies) and lobbying (some officials and business representatives, ideologically sympathizing with Islamists or interested in promising investments from foreign Islamic countries that prefer to invest in those regions where the positions of Islamists are strong). However, apparently, the insistent demand of the federal authorities to restore order and the approaching Universiade (7-16 July 2013 of the year) forced to take decisive actions: the Al-Ikhlas mosque, which turned into Hizb-ut-Tahrir headquarters in Tatarstan, was closed for renovation, which limited the possibility of a public religious preaching for Hizb ut-Tahrir activists; subsequently it was dismantled, and in its place began to build a new mosque "Mirgaziyan" (in memory of the founder and the first imam of the mosque "Al-Ikhlas" Mirgaziyane Salavatov). However, activists continued their activities on the street and on the Internet.

On the eve of the Universiade, members of Hizb ut-Tahrir held their action: they took to the central street of Kazan with T-shirts “I want to live in the caliphate”, consciously posing and shocking passersby [8]. Moreover, the action was led by a former police officer, in the past - even the deputy of the Supreme Council of the Republic of Tatarstan, Anatoly Vasilyev (after the adoption of Islam - Taufik Vasilov). He himself was brought to administrative responsibility for this, which, however, does not mean at all that he ceased his activities within the framework of this trend of Islam.

25 September 2013 held a trial on Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami (Islamic Liberation Party) leader in Tatarstan Rustem Safin, who received 2 of the common regime colony [9], which absolutely does not mean that the activities of a terrorist organization discontinued in Tatarstan. This became especially evident on September 27 of 2013, when in a number of Kazan mosques, activists of this organization at the end of the Friday namaz began to publicly conduct anti-Russian propaganda among the congregation. The reason was the decision of the Oktyabrsky District Court of Novorossiysk of September 17 of 2013 to recognize the translation of the Koran, made by Elmir Kuliev, extremist. In the speeches of Islamists in mosques there were curses against the Russian authorities, who allegedly banned the Koran (despite the fact that the decision was about one of the translations). Some of them came out with single pickets, where the charges were repeated on the posters. The Religious Board of Muslims of Tatarstan a few days earlier responded to this with a statement about the undesirability of such a measure on the part of the Russian justice, as this gives rise to the radicals accusing the country of state Islamophobia. For its part, the Tatarstan Muftiate proposed a canonical translation of the Koran into Russian under the leadership of the Muslim clergy [10].

From the Muslim clergy of Tatarstan, four people condemned the activities of Hizb-ut-Tahrir: the wives of the wahhabites who were killed by the wahhabis, theologian Valiulla Yakupov (1963-2012), the Muslim theologian Farid Salman, the imam of the Zakabannaya mosque of the city of Kazan, Said-Jagfar Lotfullin, and the current heading and the current 76-year-old and the current Zaman mosque of Kazan’s mosque Said-Dzhagfar Lotfullin and the current 76 . The latter accused the adherents of Hizb-ut-Tahrir of being marginal, and by their actions such a symbol of Islam as shahad (testimony of faith) in the form of takhlil (the words “There is no God but Allah”) “strive to turn into an element of extremist political discourse ”[11].

With regard to the number of Hizb ut-Tahrir members in Kazan, today, more than 140 people from the Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami [12] group are registered with the police. At the same time, it is not known whether at least some measures are being taken towards them. According to our estimates, the number of members and sympathizers of Hizb ut-Tahrir in the whole of Tatarstan is 400 people.

Notes:

1. Mamirgov M.Z. The book of Islamic sects and creeds / Murat Mamirgov. - M .: “Islamic world”, 2007. - S. 419-420.

2. Islamic lawyer will sit // Time and Money (Kazan), June 2 2005 of the year.

3. Safarov A. A. Sunset Kazan phenomenon. The history of the elimination of organized criminal groups of Tatarstan / Asgat Safarov. - Kazan: Tatar book publishing house, 2012. - C.287.

4. Yakupov V.M. Informal Islam in Tatarstan: movements, sects, trends / Valiulla Yakupov. - Kazan: Iman, 2003. - C.28

5. Shagaviev S. Danger of Hizb ut-Tahrir for Muslims of Russia / Said Shagaviev // Improving the activities of law enforcement agencies to prevent extremism: a collection of materials of the interdepartmental scientific and practical conference (5 May 2010, Kazan). - Kazan: KUI of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, 2010. - C.145

6. Quoted by: Suleimanov R. Hizb-ut-Tahrir al-Islam in Russia: ideology, organization of the underground, extremist activity / Rais Suleymanov // Website of the Volga Center for Regional and Ethnic-Religious Studies of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies: URL: http: //www.kazan- center.ru/osnovnye-razdely/16/286/

7. Baran Z. "Hizb ut-Tahrir": the political radicalization of Islam / Zeyno Baran. - Bm .: Nixon Center, 2004. - C.15

8. Islamists in T-shirts with Hizb ut-Tahrir symbols began to appear on the streets of Kazan // Interfax-Religion, July 19, 2013. URL: http://www.interfax-religion.ru/?act=news&div=52019

9. Extreme imam from Al-Ikhlas demolished mosque condemned in Kazan // REGNUM, 25 September 2013 of the year. URL: http://www.regnum.ru/news/1711828.html

10. DUM RT statement on the prohibition of the semantic translation of the holy Quran Elmira Kuliyev // The site of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of the Republic of Tatarstan, 23 of September 2013 of the year. URL: http://dumrt.ru/node/9924

11. Batrov R. Muslim distribution // Site of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of the Republic of Tatarstan, August 20 2013. URL: http://dumrt.ru/node/9479

12. Kazan announced that 140 members of Hizb ut-Tahrir are registered // IA REGNUM, 28 November 2012 of the year. URL: http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1598205.html
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  1. +6
    10 January 2014 09: 07
    it is necessary to burn this infection with hot iron !!! and feed the pork of these reptiles
    1. A.YARY
      +8
      10 January 2014 09: 18
      Here is another reason to close tries ... to the castle border and expel ALL "guest workers" to hell!
      Although who doubted that the infection rushing to RUSSIA from behind a hillock?
      1. Iamfromrurik
        +7
        10 January 2014 10: 06
        Quote: A.YARY
        Here is another reason to close tries ... to the castle border and expel ALL "guest workers" to hell!
        Although who doubted that the infection rushing to RUSSIA from behind a hillock?

        Putin has doubts. He said in Russian - there will be no visas! We must not repel, but "attract". So we expect the "pull" of several million more Asians out of the ass of the world.
        1. -3
          10 January 2014 13: 15
          Quote: IamFromRurik
          Putin has doubts. He said in Russian - there will be no visas! We must not repel, but "attract". So we expect the "pull" of several million more Asians out of the ass of the world.


          You are another victim of the liberal media. Just let's look at their headlines, and then at reality.








          Well how? Inspires? You still do not want to shoot the bloody tyrant and usurper yourself?

          And now a little trick.

          There is such a site - http://kremlin.ru
          I fully admit that the democratic Russian media have much more reliable and proven sources of information than some site of the President. Of course there is! And yet.



          And as bei I once again draw attention:
          "" This does not mean that we do not need to toughen our domestic legislation related to this area of ​​activity, on the contrary - it is necessary ... The most important thing is that everyone obey the law, so that ... get from migrants and immigrants respect, unconditional respect for our laws, customs, culture of those regions where people come and intend to live there. "

          I have a feeling that our democratic media are somehow too cautious in their reporting. As if they were afraid to suffer for an incorrectly spoken word that someone would not like behind the high and gloomy Kremlin walls.

          No need to be afraid, gentlemen, journalists. The ideals of freedom are worth fighting for. It’s time to tell the people of Russia the real Truth.
          1. Iamfromrurik
            -5
            10 January 2014 13: 33
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            You are another victim of liberal media

            Unfortunately, this is you another victim of the liberal media.
            I repeated literally what Putin said.
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            It’s time to tell the people of Russia the real Truth.

            Really! Who, if not the Zaputin media, can do it in the best way!
            1. 0
              10 January 2014 16: 09
              Quote: IamFromRurik
              I repeated literally what Putin said.


              Well, let's compare.

              Quote: IamFromRurik
              There will be no visas! We must not repel, but "attract"


              Quote: Putin
              This does not mean that we do not need to tighten our domestic legislation related to this field of activity, on the contrary, we need


              One to one !!!!!
          2. Iamfromrurik
            -1
            10 January 2014 13: 46
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            You are another victim of the liberal media. Just let's look at their headlines, and then at reality.

            Calm down you! Why are you so! I understand perfectly well that only Evgeny Fedorov cuts the truth of the uterus! Only he and his sect, gives truthful information and in every possible way exposes the vile agents of the Hos.Depa of the USA and the Queen of England! Sodom will not work! Tak Pobedim! All on the March against the Occupants!
    2. Field
      -4
      10 January 2014 10: 27
      The slogans are not enough to take concrete action. Although we have it punishable.
      The authorities do not hear us and do not want to listen to us.
      "Rise" of national self-awareness in Tatarstan (Tatars are not offended, I mean "exposed by trust and power") all sorts of "national" and "Islamic" organizations are quietly supported.
      1. -1
        10 January 2014 11: 47
        "All sorts of" national "and" Islamic "organizations are quietly supported."

        I agree.
        it is in quiet and Islamist organizations that are supported by most governments of the world. and this is done only for one reason - so that they get stronger and can seriously challenge all non-Islamists (they include all the other inhabitants of the Earth, including ordinary Muslims).
        and then begin the destruction of as many people in the world as possible (method - 3rd world "holy" war against "wild" Muslims).
    3. +1
      10 January 2014 13: 13
      Here's another meat to translate :)
    4. Yankuz
      +1
      10 January 2014 15: 57
      Feed??? Or maybe just silently shoot everywhere, without forgetting to pre-lubricate the bullets with pork fat ?!
  2. +4
    10 January 2014 09: 17
    Dangerous enemies - who is behind them?
    After all, they are just a tool in the hands of a puppeteer and he can give a team of faces to our PEOPLE at any time.

    In general, I think it is necessary for our specialists to stuff this organization with moles and keep it under their control - naturally, first of all, those who stand behind it should be taken out of the game.
    1. GDP
      +2
      10 January 2014 09: 36
      Something reminiscent of Jehovah's Witnesses, the same pyramidal structure and large-scale propaganda system among all segments of the population, only more dangerous methods ...
      Any religious organization that promotes violence must be prosecuted worldwide and outlawed.
      1. +3
        10 January 2014 11: 51
        "stuff this organization with moles"

        for some reason I am sure that it is crammed with these "moles" and ours and not ours to the very top. the top of such organizations consists of "moles" alone, "meat" is only recruited from unsuspecting idiots
    2. AVV
      +1
      10 January 2014 11: 47
      Yes, the United States and Britain uses the services of these scumbags !!! Not just because their office is in Britain !!!
  3. +7
    10 January 2014 09: 20
    As for the number of members of Hizb-ut-Tahrir in Kazan, today “more than 140 people from the Hizb-ut-Tahrir al-Islami group” are registered with the police

    And this is the question why are they not sitting?
    1. +2
      10 January 2014 10: 30
      Quote: pv1005
      As for the number of members of Hizb-ut-Tahrir in Kazan, today “more than 140 people from the Hizb-ut-Tahrir al-Islami group” are registered with the police


      Not everything is so simple ... Moreover, the top of the pyramid is not even in Saudi Arabia ... If Sweden gives them political asylum. And at the grassroots level, they just work by the method of cells and network marketing .. Here's the story of what is being handed down firsthand. By the way, their media office and Russian-language website are quite accessible on the Internet. I wonder why, since it is an extremist organization.

      1. +1
        10 January 2014 10: 44
        Quote: Ascetic
        . And at the grassroots level, they just work by the method of cells and network marketing


        It consists of cells, which include five people, and chalca (party core). At the first stage of involvement in the party, newcomers are awarded the title "Daris". This is a person who voluntarily studies the structure of the party, its goals, objectives and working methods. Moreover, the daris of one five do not know the daris from the other. Such a conspiracy method allows Hizb at-tahrir to avoid major failures and revelations. For several months, future party members are taught by a mentor - mushriff. The list of subjects studied includes politics, economics, sociology, geography, and religion. Moreover, the last discipline is allocated no more than 10-15 percent of the time from the entire educational process. At the end of the first course of study, Darisa pass exams, take the oath of allegiance to the Amir and the cause of the party. From this moment they become fully equal members of the party - hizbiyami (party members). Then, under the supervision of a nakyba (leader), new party members begin to master the second educational course. Mostly the books that are forbidden in many countries of the world are called the Charter of Islam, The Concept of Hizb at-Tahrir, The Ways of Society in Islam, and Al-Wa'iy (Reason) magazine. In addition, the hizbiyah should closely monitor economic, social and socio-political events around the world. But now, in addition to obtaining theoretical knowledge, Hizbians are actively practicing - distributing leaflets, engaged in agitation. Each member must involve at least five people in their ranks. Usually, the first persons involved are usually Hizbah relatives. By the beginning of the third stage of training, the most active and proven in business are awarded the title nakyba. The duties of the nakyba include not only the activities of training, campaigning, distribution of leaflets, but also the party leadership of the district scale. Further on the hierarchical ladder stands musa'id (assistant to the head of the regional organization), mas'ul (head of the region) and mu'tamad - the leader of Hizb at-tahrir in the republic (country). All Mu'tamads, in turn, obey 'Ato Abu Rasht, the leader of the organization.
        THREE STAGES OF HIZB AT-TAKHRIR ACTIVITIES
        The first stage. The education of individual people in such a way that they accept ideas, the party’s path and are ready to form a political organization.

        The second stage. Dissemination of ideas in society as a whole. According to their opinion, it is necessary for society to accept the ideology of the party.

        The third stage. Coming to power and introducing the ideology of the party into life, spreading it around the world.
        link
    2. Field
      +4
      10 January 2014 10: 31
      Quote: pv1005
      And this is the question why are they not sitting?


      Maybe all the same, regional officials are involved here, who persistently insisted on us that this was not the case?
      1. 0
        10 January 2014 11: 55
        "Maybe regional officials are somehow involved here,"

        what can they do? if you don't touch the sign on top, give them time to get back on their feet. and then "heroically" to fight them.
        and the lives of the fooled Islamists themselves, their relatives, ordinary people who died at their hands, those in power are not interested
  4. +1
    10 January 2014 09: 28
    then it’s necessary to lead something that is impossible or difficult to fight, since this is a pyramidal structure, where everything is tied to the peak of the pyramid, then it’s easier than with a network structure, where the center does not understand where
  5. vladsolo56
    +1
    10 January 2014 09: 31
    The organization is clearly terrorist, and our FSB is not taking any action? strange position. Of course, if according to our stupid laws there is no way to destroy all its members, then according to the law of wartime it is possible to destroy without laws. However, our gut is thin. Wait for the fire. then they will blow on him.
    1. -1
      10 January 2014 11: 56
      "They will wait for the fire. Then they will blow on it."

      wait, wait a long time. then they will blow. it will be so
  6. +1
    10 January 2014 09: 39
    so soft and fluffy at first glance ......
    It is necessary to crush this foreign, for the Russian space, education ..... or make it dance to the FSB's "pipe", figure out the sponsors and eliminate them to hell!
  7. +1
    10 January 2014 09: 43
    Somehow a very quiet episode passed with shelling by missiles of the Nizhnekamsk Combine.
    All these radical sects fall under the new law on separatism, maybe we will wait until this evil spirits will be planted for calls to the caliphate.
  8. 0
    10 January 2014 09: 48
    I don’t understand why there is no complete ban on all such organizations, why they don’t put such people who preach radical Islam, and for such people it is necessary to put separate prisons so that they do not spread the infection among ordinary prisoners, otherwise there are a lot of offended people, it’s easier to recruit among them contingent, and even prison, so that it was somewhere far away in the Arctic so that they were afraid to get there.
    I hope that all the same progress can happen after the Olympics, because their mother cannot be constantly introduced, only protective measures must be taken because countermeasures must be taken.
    1. Field
      +1
      10 January 2014 12: 01
      Yes, not prisons for such people are needed, but special psychiatric hospitals with "special methods of influence"
  9. makarov
    0
    10 January 2014 09: 50
    here it is the legacy of the scoundrel and drunkard "Elkin"
    1. Field
      +1
      10 January 2014 10: 24
      And that the situation has changed with the "fellow" and teetotaler Putin?
      What years accounted for the main growth of the organization?
      Shaimiev nothing to do with?
  10. Valery Neonov
    0
    10 January 2014 10: 47
    The play: USSR-Russia: Act No. 1-Chechnya or Ichkeria (literary) is completed (for now).
    Act No. 2-Tatarstan, the beginning ????? their mother bothers ...
    Or maybe "crazy", but according to the "levels" - the speed, the passage is important, yeah.
  11. 0
    10 January 2014 12: 17
    Beat, and preferably feet ...
  12. -3
    10 January 2014 13: 23
    A man needs faith. Belief in something good, sublime. The faith in the CPSU has been taken away from us, it remains to believe in the Almighty! Such tahrirs give the person what he needs
    1. 0
      10 January 2014 14: 25
      And what are we minus without arguments?
      1. 0
        10 January 2014 20: 44
        Denis, hi! And making arguments is much more difficult than putting cons without arguments)))
  13. 0
    10 January 2014 14: 32
    Quote: Field
    And that the situation has changed with the "fellow" and teetotaler Putin?
    What years accounted for the main growth of the organization?
    Shaimiev nothing to do with?

    It was precisely in the nineties that they started sending young people to study in S.A. and Jordan, and even paid for training for young people, future preachers of pure Islam, but it turned out that they were already transporting completely different concepts from there than traditional Islam in Russia, after that as they understood, they introduced a ban on sending to study in those countries, but it was already too late that the seeds began to rise, that's just the main growth and occurs in the two thousandths. When E.B.N was anarchy, what are the staff only as Maskhadov dictates his conditions to the president drunk, when Putin was crushed by open gangs of the formation of those who went into clashes directly with the federals, now these are pure terrorist cells that operate secretly and it’s more difficult to deal with them, if in the USA there are explosions with their budget in the CIA and the NSA and the intelligence network, then here to talk about our special services, until our scum is burned out with hot iron explosions will occur, the only question is when and where this will happen, and do not hesitate Russia still cry for his children innocently killed.
    1. Field
      0
      10 January 2014 20: 18
      Quote: leks
      , under Putin, open gangs of the formation were crushed by those who went into clashes directly with the federals, now these are pure terrorist cells that operate secretly and it’s more difficult to deal with them, if in the USA there are explosions with their budget in the CIA and the NSA and the intelligence network, then what can we say about our special services until our scum is burned out with a hot iron


      Yes, they practically openly travel and live, they arrange various manifestations with local Islamaziks, they sing in Tatarstan, Dagestan, Ingushetia, and so on. And no one is in a hurry to "burn out with a hot iron".
  14. RUSLAN454
    0
    10 January 2014 15: 55
    Well, Putin, as usual, is hypocritical as he can, I apologize in advance to those who worship this liar and swindler
    1. -3
      10 January 2014 16: 02
      Are you afraid of it? You’re doing it right! You have chosen the wrong site. Here the PATRIOTS of RUSSIA are fading. Even in the West they have already understood that it IS NECESSARY to reckon with us. This is thanks to the GDP! in the ban, wait for the reaction of other forum users
      1. Field
        -2
        10 January 2014 20: 32
        What do you say patriotism is?
        Leave koment = flicker? what are you dear about?
        1. -1
          10 January 2014 21: 06
          Patriotism (in my opinion) is to defend the interests of my state. I’ll personally go to persecute you! No, I’m not from the authorities --- I just got people like you! Claims, I can agree on one one! I respect the Azerbaijanis and Kazakhs on the site, defend their position! Yes, we do not like this position --- but this is their choice!
          1. Field
            0
            11 January 2014 13: 20
            Quote: Den 11
            Patriotism (in my opinion) consists in defending the interests of one’s state.

            Already good, but what are the interests of the state?

            Quote: Den 11
            I’ll personally go to chase you!


            look respected, tea already white ribbons everywhere seem.

            And you can drive, of course, your right.
            Leave your emotions and start to "scale".
  15. RUSLAN454
    -2
    10 January 2014 16: 38
    Quote: Den 11
    Are you afraid of it? You’re doing it right! You have chosen the wrong site. Here the PATRIOTS of RUSSIA are fading. Even in the West they have already understood that it IS NECESSARY to reckon with us. This is thanks to the GDP! in the ban, wait for the reaction of other forum users


    and patriotism lies in the fact that we must bow to all, excuse me, bastards? while you are young and wealthy and are, as I believe, under Putin’s wing, you can allow this. and when the pension is not enough for food, then we'll talk
    1. 0
      10 January 2014 17: 24
      And then what are the children-grandchildren? Why feed them, bring them up, do not sleep at night? If you raised your own like that ... I’ll always help my retired mother! This is not pathos-this is education. Let her have a pension of $ 500, but she doesn’t need anything! Also, grandchildren manage to buy goodies
  16. 0
    10 January 2014 18: 29
    Replanting all radicals is a good idea, but not feasible. From childhood we are taught "The wedge is knocked out like a wedge." If you want to pull people out of the radial Muslim organization, create your own, in which they will profess "correct Islam." But it is necessary to work on this for a long time and seriously, and the result in the first years is invisible, and then it will be taken for granted. A forceful solution to the problem in the news looks both more effective and understandable.
    The foregoing does not mean that a forceful decision must be abandoned. On mothers no ideology will work anymore.
    1. Field
      0
      10 January 2014 20: 36
      I don’t know with a wedge, but 5,45 and 7,62 are good at blowing out nonsense, it happens with brains
      1. 0
        10 January 2014 20: 50
        This is not a method! Bullets cannot solve problems. Events in the North Caucasus are a good example of this. This is just one of the methods of struggle. Besides cartridges, other approaches to the problem are needed.
        1. Field
          0
          11 January 2014 13: 12
          Quote: lonely
          Events in the North Caucasus are a good example of this.


          This is just an example of weakness found watered. guides. and his disregard for the Russian people.

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