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"The loss of Ukraine is good for the Russians"

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Well, let us, in order to draw a line under the "suffering in Ukraine", read a piece of an absolutely amazing interview with outgoing President George W. Bush in December of 1992. He was not shy there, and he burned off frankly with such napalm at last, that the earth is still smoking:


- Mr. President, do you think that the loss of Ukraine is good for the Russians, but here is a former National Security Advisor ...

- Are you talking about Brzezinski? Village fool Jimmy in politics could not distinguish between apple and cow cake, and therefore listened to idiots and clowns. I voluntarily left the post of Director of the CIA, so that my name would have no relation to this booth. Brzezinski wrote that without Ukraine, Russia would never become an Empire. So it was in those times. But this is the rule of the 20 century, and we will live in 21.

Do you know why the Russians needed Ukraine? Then, that there the population growth is higher than in Russia itself. In past wars, Russians needed Ukrainians to throw someone with grenades under German Tanks. But only. But as soon as they got nuclear weapon and rockets, the meaning of keeping so many hungry mouths became negative. It is easier for Russians to raise the standard of living of their Russian population, and for Ukrainians to work for them in the same way that Mexicans work with us and for us. All the same, it is not necessary to fight with a rifle and grenades in a modern war. And therefore, it becomes not necessary for them to take the military oath of the Ukrainians ...


That was a great interview in December 1992. Okay, here's another piece:

- ... It was the collapse of the Soviet Union - is my most important defeat. I am afraid that this is a foreign-policy Disaster, the size of which we have not yet understood.

- Could you develop your thought? After all, you yourself have made so much effort for the Victory over the USSR?

- Yes, I did, but for Victory, and not for our Defeat. The Soviet Union had a very important role for America. He had not had the military ability to defeat our country for a long time, but he could cause us damage — unacceptable. And we were afraid of him, as fear of a wild wolf, or a bear. We taught ourselves to follow the constipation in our home, we watched our form. However ... Now, when the Union is gone, we - the Americans - began to forget about the danger.

Our people are growing fat and fattening, and these are signs of our defeat. After all, the existence of the Union was beneficial to all of us, and the current situation multiplies political risks with uncertainties and, in my opinion, is a direct path to catastrophe. I mean that I did everything so that the Union would remain very hungry and weak. I fed him from my hand and taught me to caress. There was no money in our treasury, and I provided the Union with humanitarian aid from my personal funds.

- You want to say that all this humanitarian aid to the Russians, all these legs ...

- It was all from my personal funds. The Russians needed money, and as best I could, I supported them. They needed food, and I ordered to feed them from my personal means. There were people who entered the share with me, but we did not spend on it - not a cent from the federal treasury. No Cent!

- Then I do not understand - why did you do this?

- Then what - "Friend in need - Friend forever" (Friend in Need is - Friend indeed). You do not understand what happened. Russia is not defeated, on the contrary - it is very strong and we need her to be Our Friend - that is why I fed all these Russians for free. And those who beat me - they only want to rob. The Russians will not forget that and someday will send us a response bill.


- I do not understand why you are sure that Russia has increased. After all, she had just been defeated ...

- Russia and the Union - as Matryoshka. They were nested in each other. In reality, we competed with Russia, but she was in the form of the Union, that is, she had huge Giri on her feet. Now, with the collapse of the Union, these Gears have been removed, Russia will overcome its current problems and become much more evil and powerful, and will well remember everyone who has offended it now. And I would like to be the same Friend of Russia as I was the Enemy for the Soviets.

It is necessary to put on the best horse. Do you want to know what kind of Geary she had? This is in numbers - there were two bottomless holes in the Union, where all budget surpluses flowed - Agriculture and Social Assistance. Since today's Russia may have former incomes and not spend money on these unprofitable items of expenditure - in the coming years it will become stronger and more dangerous than the USSR.

- I do not understand - why Russia will be able to cut its spending on social assistance and agriculture?

- It's all in numbers. The main consumers of rural farms in the Union were in Ukraine. Ukraine is leaving - the Russians are closing the "black hole" in the budget for subsidies for the village. The main consumers of social assistance were located in Central Asia and the Caucasus. If there is no Union, then Russia, the main earner for the Union budget, stops subsidizing its large Muslim republics. And then - arithmetic, - Ukraine, Central Asia and the Transcaucasus find themselves with budget deficits and plunge into the abyss of despair, Russia turns out to have budget surpluses and its treasury turns out to be bigger and more powerful than the Soviet one. And then she will return with a triumph and remember us all, but our economy already has a boundary condition - zero profit. My opponent, Clinton, promises to “stimulate the economy,” which means that we are in debt, and our economy is in a state where we can no longer afford to borrow. This means that our budget will be negative and over time we, as a country, will become naked and barefoot, and the Russians will be rich and powerful.

And for the sake of Friendship with strong and powerful - my free chicken legs at the moment when they have nothing to eat - will bring huge dividends. And they would have brought even more if I could keep the pack of our ever-hungry hyenas and jackals from robbery ... Ah, if we could keep the Union from disintegrating, if he was used to our good hand and eventually became manual, like a lap dog ...

But nothing can be done. All these jackals themselves decide their fate - I know the Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything ....


But nothing can be done. All these jackals themselves decide their fate - I know the Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything ....

Once again - this is 1992 year. It seems to everyone that Russia in the ass, having received the freedom of the republic, are happy and are waiting for the manna from heaven to fall from the sky, each will have a Mercedes and a villa in Cannes.

And Bush Sr. already knew everything.
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  1. bomg.77
    bomg.77 9 January 2014 07: 59
    +52
    I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything ....
    So do not forget!
    - It was all from my personal means. The Russians needed money, and I supported them as best I could. They needed food, and I ordered them to be fed from my personal means. There were people who came to share with me, but we did not spend a single cent from the federal treasury on this.
    rubbish paid for everything, no one helped, everything was paid for by the same company "Noga". The benefactor of shit, it was a simple investment of money with future super profits, there are no misanthropes in America
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 9 January 2014 08: 15
      +8
      Famously!
      On the one hand, he is right ...
      And as for the republics, too, everyone wanted the villa, but they received benefits ... Every storekeeper wanted a house in Spain.
      Yes, if everything is approached from the point of view of calculation, then it’s better for us, but only to involve these republics in the sphere of our interests we’ll have to pay;
      An interesting film was watched by Kiselev's "Orange Revolution" INTER 5.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 08: 28
        +13
        Quote: mirag2
        Yes, if everything is approached from the point of view of calculation, then it’s better for us, but only to involve these republics in the sphere of our interests we’ll have to pay;


        When the republics were part of the USSR, they spent a lot more money + responsibility.

        Now, for money, we are buying sovereignty, what difference does the president have in a few years, and you still have to repay the debt, and most likely "in kind", since the cat wept for its gold reserves and Ukraine.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 9 January 2014 11: 19
          +14
          Quote: mirag2
          in terms of calculation, yes it’s better for us, but only to involve

          Guys! E-mine, why such illiteracy, not a single mark of kicking (except for the ellipsis), you need to read two or three times to make sense, to enter into such speeches even write an answer in scrap.
          I write komenty myself; I check my spelling two or even three times.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 9 January 2014 14: 29
            +22
            ,, Competent ,, Serj: better check your own, komenty, not 2-3 times, but 4-5 times, since there are no words in the Russian dictionaries, “Che,; instead of, reprimand, is,” punctuation ,,. By the way, there are ,, coMMents ,, or co-mentaries, and not comments.
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 9 January 2014 14: 49
            +5
            Quote: Sergh
            Guys! E-mine, why such illiteracy, not a single sign of kicking


            Say thanks for not being obscene ...
          3. Tiamat2702
            Tiamat2702 9 January 2014 16: 14
            +3
            .... And the signs of scolding, not "scribbling" (speaking of literacy)
          4. Tiamat2702
            Tiamat2702 9 January 2014 16: 14
            +1
            .... And the signs of scolding, not "scribbling" (speaking of literacy)
      2. vostok1982
        vostok1982 9 January 2014 11: 04
        +18
        They wanted villas, but got - forks.
      3. Max otto
        Max otto 9 January 2014 11: 15
        +12
        And now it is becoming apparent that Bush Sr. is the last president of the United States. Everything else is puppet clowns. Future candidates are still degenerates, I don’t understand how they don’t see it there?
        1. Canep
          Canep 9 January 2014 12: 35
          +8
          Quote: Max Otto
          Everything else is puppet clowns.

          Read on a parallel branch what kind of circus is going on at the University of North Carolina and your clowns will immediately take a harmonious place there.
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 9 January 2014 14: 47
        +17
        Quote: mirag2
        Famously!


        The worst Bush is a skull, man. No wonder he eats his bread. In that period, and so clearly understand the prospect it is necessary to have a truly sober mind. I am shocked to be honest. It's a pity nature rests on children ...
        1. just exp
          just exp 9 January 2014 20: 20
          +3
          Oh, not a fact, not a fact, I’m talking about the fact that nature rested on the younger one, maybe this is his role, it’s not without reason that after his adventures the price of oil soared, which it was us who helped more or less to recover. and given that Bush the senior ALREADY understood that Russia would rise and the states still regret a lot, then I admit that the Bushs, both, after the collapse of the USSR played and are playing on our side, especially since both Bush are members of the skull and bones, and this is not international, and a nationalist organization associated with Germany, which also tries to be closer to Russia and free itself from state ties.
      5. alone
        alone 9 January 2014 21: 23
        +1
        Quote: mirag2
        Every storekeeper wanted a house in Spain.


        Well, almost in those 23 years, almost all the stalls turned into oligarchs and officials, and you won’t surprise them with Spanish villas.
      6. Interface
        Interface 12 January 2014 15: 29
        +1
        Right?
        It’s easier for Russians to improve the living standards of their Russian population, and so that Ukrainians work for them in the same way that Mexicans work for us and for us


        On us? Well, again, diarrhea about a crazy nation of zas-ran-tsev-alcoholics-cosmonauts a la Andropov, who enslaved dozens of nations and threaten the whole world.
        It’s, in fact, we have secured billions in order to raise Ukraine. In Ukraine, there were the largest enterprises for the production of ICBMs, shipbuilding, scientific towns, factories for the production of engines, optoelectronics.
        About steel making, the coal industry, about "Morozov" and KB "Antonov" - generally keep quiet.

        And the difference, Mr. Bush, is that you have the border between the United States and Mexico marked by barbed wire, while in our country the Ukrainians occupied the highest state. posts (Cherneko, Grechko, Brezhnev (?)). Ukrainians were not discriminated against, the language was studied in schools and no one was forced to speak Russian.
        The bottom line is that your words are very reminiscent of Bandera nonsense about "tortured Ukraine", that "the Moscow brute kept us for slaves." Fu. It's disgusting.

        He had not had the military ability to defeat our country for a long time, but he could do us harm - unacceptable. And we feared him, as they feared a wild wolf, or a bear.

        If we take the data on the ratio of the number of ATS and NATO troops, then the Soviet bloc would simply overwhelm the number of troops. (This is if Comrade Bush had not heard about our unique developments in the military-industrial complex, including the lasers that we have in 90 for sale) equipment was prepared for staffing ~ 500 divisions, 20 million reservists would be put under arms, this is not counting our little allies. (Varenikov)
        In terms of the number of ships of the Soviet Navy, the US was superior, while they did not know how to shoot down the Granit, the Aegis and other goods were in the process of being finalized.
        Suppose a nuclear conflict has begun. P-29, PC-36, Scalpel, BZHRK, these wonderful comrades do not need to be introduced. What do the Americans oppose them? 2 Trident, which was adopted in the 90 year? A heavy MX ICBM? Which they didn’t bring to mind and removed from service?

        In short, as I understand it, the name "USSR" still causes the American military to urinate instantly, that's why everyone is trying to cheer themselves up, they say, "He has not had the military ability to defeat our country for a long time, but he could have caused us damage - unacceptable." and blah blah blah about great America, which has become stronger over and over again from the battle with the "evil empire".

        In short, x-nu drives Comrade. Bush. Insanity rolls up imperceptibly. Although this is their family ... I think so
    2. 225chay
      225chay 9 January 2014 09: 38
      +44
      Quote: bomg.77
      I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything .... So we will not forget!

      Exactly! We will not forget
      "The loss of Ukraine would be a great boon for Russia ..."
      And this muck can be answered with these words:
      the loss for the USA of Alaska and a dozen other states would be simply manna from heaven ...
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 9 January 2014 12: 55
        +47
        To destroy the Union, it was not enough to hammer the ideas of nationalism into the head of the "outskirts", it is still necessary to instill in the titular nation that it is profitable for it and it will soon heal like in a song ... Today history repeats itself - "why feed the Caucasus?" Let's separate the Caucasus, I think Bush will approve. Then what are we going to separate? And what will remain? Russia needs Ukraine and Belarus to the bone, then it becomes a power with a population (read "human resources, reserves") of more than 200 million people. Note - the Slavs, not the Asian Islamists. This is the internal market, on which one can rely, and mobilization resources, etc. etc. In 1992, no one believed that the Union had collapsed, and therefore they did (and said) everything to make it a reality. The article is a custom-made swamp provocation aimed at fostering the denial by the Russian people of their MAJOR NATIONAL IDEA, - IDEAS OF PANSLAVISM, as the main force capable of withstanding the Anglo-Saxon world.
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 9 January 2014 16: 13
          +7
          ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU, a provocation, Yulian Semyonov wrote about such ideas, in "Bomb for the Chairman" in 1967.
          1. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 9 January 2014 18: 22
            +3
            Quote: Val_Y
            provocation

            Damn, men !!!! This is not an interview, it was he who so loaded the youngest and apparently was with Ahri nitelny hangover fellow
        2. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 9 January 2014 16: 25
          +4
          ... at present, in order to reunite Ukraine with Russia (Ukraine completely, and not part of it with a pro-Russian population), one must either kill or correct the brains of millions of Bandera and Shukhevych fans. To interrupt is faster, but not politically correct, to fix the brains is not very realistic. Therefore, the next hundred years, until the people of Ukraine cope with their browns and become one, unfortunately we are unlikely to live in one state ...
          1. edge
            edge 12 January 2014 15: 25
            0
            as for Ukraine, everything is simple, they will bring her hetman themselves when they sit in a large puddle (you had to let them go to Europe, it would be faster)
        3. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 9 January 2014 16: 25
          +1
          ... at present, in order to reunite Ukraine with Russia (Ukraine completely, and not part of it with a pro-Russian population), one must either kill or correct the brains of millions of Bandera and Shukhevych fans. To interrupt is faster, but not politically correct, to fix the brains is not very realistic. Therefore, the next hundred years, until the people of Ukraine cope with their browns and become one, unfortunately we are unlikely to live in one state ...
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 9 January 2014 20: 42
            +2
            Quote: Tiamat2702
            . currently to reunite Ukraine with Russia

            it’s not entirely clear why we need a whole Ukraine ...

            Ukraine can enter the Russian Federation only as a region and only its eastern part ...

            let Poland take Poland and re-educate Bander herself - what for do we have an extra headache?
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 9 January 2014 21: 03
              +4
              Quote: DanaF1
              let Poland take Poland and re-educate Bander herself - what for do we have an extra headache?

              So Poland has already stated that only memory is not necessary for her in FIG - production is minuscule, agricultural is minuscule, people ... well, very heterogeneous in terms of culture and "their Bandera values ​​... they don't need it either! fellow
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 9 January 2014 21: 54
                +3
                Quote: Egoza
                they don’t need it either!

                Well, in some century I can understand the Poles ...
                but it’s not good for us to select those whom even the Poles do not want ...
            2. edge
              edge 12 January 2014 15: 28
              0
              Quote: DanaF1
              let Poland take Poland and re-educate Bander herself - what for do we have an extra headache?

              Well, yes, and there the Turks will be pulled into the Crimea and New Russia, because they legally reserved such a right. Do we fight against the Turks again?
        4. just exp
          just exp 9 January 2014 20: 24
          +3
          try reading the article again. there we are talking about the TEMPORARY secession of Ukraine, and then the fed up "independence" Ukraine itself will rush back.
          but for starters, it will work out for Russia as Mexico in the USA.
        5. little man
          little man 9 January 2014 22: 39
          +1
          URAL72
          ++ Better not to say. And the article is bullshit.
        6. Angry reader
          Angry reader 10 January 2014 00: 08
          +3
          ... everything is in the spirit. Saxons have a lot of truth, but in general dregs ..)
          On Brzezinski, how he took up arms for a frank little book ..)
    3. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 9 January 2014 14: 25
      +7
      All these jackals themselves decide their Fate - I know the Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything ....


      We will not forget or forgive, and most of us will avenge the shame that we had to endure in the wild 90s, and now I really want to quickly taste the sweet revenge.
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    5. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 9 January 2014 14: 38
      +9
      Quote: bomg.77
      Ukraine is walking - Russians are closing the "black hole" in the budget for subsidies for the village.

      Such a gan! With proper planning, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine are one, complementing each other! This is so that we get sick with separatism in relation to Belarus and Ukraine.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 9 January 2014 20: 45
        -1
        Quote: Oleg147741
        This is so that we get sick with separatism in relation to Belarus and Ukraine.

        are we sick
        but nothing that they themselves separated from us and until they asked to be returned, they just sit on the priest exactly and demand money ...

        and also, I want to remind you that only Russia and Azerbaijan had surplus budgets in the USSR due to oil ... all the rest were on subsidies ...
    6. Skiff-2
      Skiff-2 9 January 2014 15: 42
      +9
      Quote: bomg.77
      - It was all from my personal means. The Russians needed money, and I supported them as best I could. They needed food, and I ordered them to be fed from my personal means. There were people who came to share with me, but we did not spend a single cent from the federal treasury on this.
      rubbish paid for everything, no one helped, everything was paid for by the same company "Noga". The benefactor of shit, it was a simple investment of money with future super profits, there are no misanthropes in America

      I am afraid that he is not lying with Bush's "free" legs, the fact is that their price in Russia at a first-tier intermediary (the first reseller, as a rule, they were former employees of Vneshtorg) was about $ 1,5. , minus 50% of their interest, transport and overhead costs (delivery by steamer, train and car) ... In general, then I was amazed - where did such philanthropy come from, but in the spring of 1997, a dozen of movers in Moscow were poisoned by the fumes of these ... x Having breathed in the legs during unloading, the noise was great in the press, they promised to destroy the batch, everything was hushed up. And to many, the goals of this philanthropy became clear. However, a similar arithmetic was then with pork, in Ukraine with Polish pork in the 90s (it was at the cost of transportation costs). Remember what mortality was then? This is what they paid for, at the same time eliminating a competitor - a domestic agricultural producer. And the father of this Bush financed Hitler in the 30s and up to 45 (the supply of aviation gasoline for the Luftwaffe, rubber, alloying metals, etc. is just business, nothing personal).
    7. AVV
      AVV 9 January 2014 17: 00
      +5
      And everyone will be rewarded on business !!!
    8. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 9 January 2014 19: 37
      +9
      Do you know why the Russians needed Ukraine?


      FRESH FOOD, BUT CHECKED WITH LABOR!
      (popular wisdom)
      1. Where was this "revelation" 22 years old? Something I have not heard about him ...
      2. Bush for his money drove us to help!?! This is not even funny ...
      3. What I put FIRST - "why do we need Ukraine" !. This is not the height of moronism (for which, by the way, the Bushes are known) - This is a puncture in all this scribble!
      AT THAT TIME NOBODY EVER THOUGHT THAT RUSSIA AND UKRAINE ARE DIFFERENT STATES !!! IT'S MADE ARTIFICIAL! It's the same as saying - "why does America need Virginia" ... especially since -
      - in 1992 Ukraine was more successful than Russia in all respects - the RICHEST remnants of the USSR, NO DEBTS, POWERFUL INDUSTRY, SELF-SUFFICIENT AGRICULTURE. Well, who knew that the "rulers" of Ukraine would be greedier and dumber than Bush himself ...
      А "the main consumers of agricultural subsidies in the Union were in Ukraine" - just bullshit. Grants were given to those who, due to natural conditions, could not raise wheat / corn for middle Soviet prices and raise cows for profit. Is this in Ukraine ?!
      I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything ..

      Here it is EVERYTHING WHAT FOR, AS I THINK, THIS RECENTLY WRITTEN ARTICLE.
      The cat, whose meat has eaten, feels, here the Bush clan has decided to admonish - just like a fireman - I'm not me, and not a bunch of mine!
      I LOVED YOU, RUSSIANS, I AM GOOD, IF WHAT - DO NOT BEAT WITH YOUR FEET!
      1. just exp
        just exp 9 January 2014 20: 28
        +3
        here by the way a good question on which I didn’t even think about something, but where was this interview for 22 years.
    9. just exp
      just exp 9 January 2014 20: 16
      +2
      Well, the stump is clear, not without benefit for myself, but for some reason I remembered Bismarck.
      and that’s not even the point, Bush wrote it when the states were sure that Russia would NEVER rise anymore, Brzezik even wrote at the same time that Russia had a khan, and with that for its money.
    10. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 13 January 2014 12: 33
      +1
      Ukraine had a very developed industry and scientific potential, and everything was normal with agriculture, and there were plenty of Russians there, and in the days of the USSR everyone considered themselves Russian, so I don’t agree with kettlebell, we are stronger together, if only without betrayal .
  2. igorra
    igorra 9 January 2014 08: 01
    +11
    Here is a real rival for Putin! Or a friend? Or an enemy? It’s not easy to see the lyuley hang his non-travelling offspring.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 9 January 2014 08: 13
      +14
      Quote: igorra
      Here is a real rival for Putin! Or a friend? Or an enemy?
      I do not think that he can be someone else! his friends are Saudi Arabia with the royal family and recently his friend was released from prison (hodor) for whom he came to ask Putin in 2004 after landing. And his best friend and his family is Oil.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 January 2014 08: 19
      +11
      Quote: igorra
      Here is a real rival for Putin

      But what kind of opponent is he, or did you think that what he said was true. They all give such interviews on retirement. He says one thing, but he thinks different and his son followed in his footsteps. Dad is not smarter.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 9 January 2014 11: 31
        +12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        but what kind of opponent is he, or did you think that what he said was true. They all give such interviews on retirement. He says one thing, but he thinks different and his son followed in his footsteps. Dad is not smarter.

        In this case, the sapper fell much further than the scapula - and nature on Bush Jr. clearly did not rest, but simply took a vacation.
        But he obviously floods about the "bush legs" - what a squeal there was when their supplies were banned, naturally they did not spend a cent - only net profit.
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 9 January 2014 16: 17
          +4
          "The sapper fell much further than the shoulder blade" - super laughing laughing laughing but I remember the screeching about the legs, by the way, for them they finally are not needed there they only eat the sternum and wings, and the legs do not eat, so it’s for sure that I hacked the dough, "such a cattle", it's me from myself. angry
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      3. Angry reader
        Angry reader 9 January 2014 13: 11
        +7
        ... Most likely not, this is the so-called Byzantine principle. The idea is not to destroy the enemy, but only to weaken and stretch to the maximum, because in the event of destruction a stronger rival may come.
        Sounds like the truth .. except for the "friends".
        After all, in fact, "Flew away" one of the poles of the confrontation system and..that is the second one is going on the way..I'm about the USA
        Regarding the actions, there they taxi their Khodorkovsky ..)
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 9 January 2014 10: 10
      +19
      Quote: igorra
      Or the enemy

      The enemy of course! But smart !!! And this is even more dangerous.
      But here's something he kept silent. Ukraine will always be like a shield in front of Russia, fencing it off from WESTERN Europe, and that is why, I.V. Stalin annexed Western Ukraine, not because he longed for Ukrainian reunification. That is why in our time a struggle for Ukraine has arisen between Russia and Europe. The penetration of "European values" through the population of Ukraine into Russia could lead to very deplorable results. I wrote "population", because as our politicians do not twist, the majority are still Russians, and "Russian-speaking Ukrainians". The most interesting thing is that people from mixed families write in the comments "at the last census I signed up as a Ukrainian, and now that's all. I will be registered as Russians." Yes, that's how it is. And Russia has never exploited visitors from Ukraine, as the United States did with the Mexicans. America will not be able to drive a wedge between us.
      1. Val_y
        Val_y 9 January 2014 16: 21
        +4
        By the way, yes, I am from Odessa, my wife is from Rostov (I’m supposedly hahol, the wife of Mos..lka), and who is my son ??
        1. ultra
          ultra 9 January 2014 16: 43
          +5
          Quote: Val_Y
          By the way, yes, I am from Odessa, my wife is from Rostov (I’m supposedly hahol, the wife of Mos..lka), and who is my son ??

          We are all like that, if you dig a little deeper! In the ancestors (not counting the Russians), Ukrainians, Greeks, Tatars and Jews are in the genealogy of his wife! So everything is mixed in the world!
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 9 January 2014 16: 51
          +8
          Well, since Odessa is a "Jew"))) (I think I will suffer a little with the choice myself 50x50, but it will be easier for your grandchildren)))
          PS.
          At the last census, my soulmate thought very hard ... before, she always indicated with some degree of arrogance that she was German .. in the last census she indicated that she was Russian.
        3. Shuriken
          Shuriken 9 January 2014 17: 10
          +5
          Hello, we arrived !! And where did Mos-Kali come from in Rostov? So we sometimes call Muscovites, yes ...
          1. avg
            avg 9 January 2014 22: 18
            +2
            Mos-kal is a soldier of the Russian Imperial Army.
        4. avg
          avg 9 January 2014 22: 15
          +2
          By the way, yes, I am from Odessa, my wife is from Rostov (I’m supposedly hahol, the wife of Mos..lka), and who is my son ??

          So the Cossack means! yes
      2. michajlo
        michajlo 9 January 2014 21: 54
        +3
        Fidget SU Today, 10:10 ↑
        Quote: igorra
        Or the enemy

        The enemy of course! But smart !!! And this is even more dangerous.


        Hello Edena!

        I fully agree with your comments and thoughts. drinks
  3. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 9 January 2014 08: 05
    +14
    Do not forget! And for his will come to all!
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 9 January 2014 10: 43
      +16
      RUSSIANS always come for their money.
      Bismarck
  4. a52333
    a52333 9 January 2014 08: 05
    +29
    I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything .... Strong. I hope to live up to the moment when the skins of fat cats from Wall Street will be ripped off (and ours, who pursued Wall Street's interests in Russia)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 January 2014 08: 21
      +14
      Quote: a52333
      I hope to live to see the time when the skins of fat cats from Wall Street will be ripped off (and ours, which were Wall Street interests in Russia)

      If you find it, you stand away to the side, otherwise you can get under the general batch. wink I don’t want to see a cat without a skin on your avatar laughing
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 9 January 2014 09: 41
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If you find it, you stand far away, otherwise you can get under the general batch. Woods are cut into pieces. I don’t want to see a cat without a skin on your avatar

        - so it is noticeable, with a straw! laughing And those are fat! Perhaps they will not mix laughing Although if I’m in that flipper, then I’m bold, that’s with a straw - come on! laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 January 2014 11: 00
          +3
          Quote: aksakal
          so it is noticeable, with a straw!

          So I say the aristocrat, confused and pile up, how to give drink laughing
    2. saxa2103
      saxa2103 9 January 2014 09: 29
      +4
      Quote: a52333
      I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything .... Strong. I hope to live up to the moment when the skins of fat cats from Wall Street will be ripped off (and ours, who pursued Wall Street's interests in Russia)

      and there will be a large line of volunteers angry
      1. vasiliysxx
        vasiliysxx 9 January 2014 13: 30
        +5
        Quote: a52333
        I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything .... Strong. I hope to live up to the moment when the skins of fat cats from Wall Street will be ripped off (and ours, who pursued Wall Street's interests in Russia)


        I don’t know what about Wall Street, but I hope to survive when our fat cats are skinned and personally involved, not for the sake of profit, but just got it all.
    3. Val_y
      Val_y 9 January 2014 16: 23
      +3
      Nah .. their skins, as Ravshan used to say, "samaubilsya ma" allegedly choked himself with a silk scarf in his villa.
  5. Predator-74
    Predator-74 9 January 2014 08: 05
    +23
    There is some truth in George's words, for sure there is. He is certainly not a "prophetic oracle", but he knows more than many politicians even now.
    The main thing is not to forget: "... I know Russians, they will not forgive anything, they will not forget anything ...", if only it had come true! Of course, I'm not bloodthirsty, but the reality is that if we forget this, then we will be fucked in the future so that we can then not get out.
  6. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 9 January 2014 08: 06
    +8

    And for the sake of Friendship with strong and powerful - my free chicken legs at the moment when they have nothing to eat - will bring huge dividends. And they would have brought even more if I could keep the pack of our ever-hungry hyenas and jackals from robbery ... Ah, if we could keep the Union from disintegrating, if he was used to our good hand and eventually became manual, like a lap dog ...

    You cannot say more clearly about the essence of this parasitic state. So they treat the whole world as "their cash cow".
  7. sds555
    sds555 9 January 2014 08: 06
    +5
    Yes, some sort of an ambiguous interview with semantic content on the principle of divide and rule, this is 1992, and now there are only those similar about other territories of Russia. I would not take his words on faith, so you can stay with nothing
    1. Kolya
      Kolya 9 January 2014 10: 01
      +4
      Bush "throws his rods" and we listen with ears hanging. So you can agree to the point that why should Moscow feed Russia. This is the basis of liberal thinking to admit the idea that Russia does not need Ukraine. So they cleverly drive a split into the faith of our unity.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 January 2014 08: 09
    +5
    And Bush Sr. already knew everything.
    That is why, every year on June 12 we celebrate his birthday?
  9. Firstvanguard
    Firstvanguard 9 January 2014 08: 11
    +8
    One thing is not clear, definitely not a fool, he acted in the interests of his state, etc., but how did he grow such an imbecile ??? wassat
    1. sds555
      sds555 9 January 2014 08: 43
      +5
      As they say, nature rests on the children of geniuses, although Bush Sr. is not quite a genius, but still
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 9 January 2014 09: 47
        +12
        Quote: sds555
        although Bush Sr. is not quite a genius, but still

        - but definitely smart, damn him! The imbeciles in the USA do not become director of the CIA, only presidents or senators. And as for nature and children - you are the point. But knowing a different version - the busy Bush Sr. got married in a hurry, they didn’t wait for things, the USSR had to be opposed and therefore he did not look carefully at whom he would marry at all. And the genes that determine precisely mental abilities are transmitted through the maternal line ... That's how Bush Jr turned out laughing
        Young members of the forum - before the wedding, study the nest and make her ask for an IQ test drinks
        1. sds555
          sds555 9 January 2014 10: 50
          +4
          wassat And if you’re already married, how to get her to take the test now is very interesting laughing laughing
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 9 January 2014 14: 49
            +5
            Quote: sds555
            And if you’re already married, how to get her to take the test now is very interesting

            - if you are married, then you can see - your wife "hawkens" you in mental abilities in life or not ... After all, in life together there are many puzzles, over the solution of which you have to fight, everything comes up there. Here it is with me, to my great shame what ... But I am stronger than her in mathematical disciplines, in! She diffuses poorly, diffuses, like, she doesn’t need this at work, but I need my dynamics. And for the children I'm calm smile So why the IQ test for a wife? still pops up in the course of life. But then it was unstable, and why didn’t Bush, having discovered his wife’s non-standard mental abilities, not divorced right away? Although it’s so convenient with a limited wife - go left, keep a little conspiracy - I won’t guess. well, etc. laughing
  10. avant-garde
    avant-garde 9 January 2014 08: 12
    +3
    Do you know why the Russians needed Ukraine? Then, that there the population growth is higher than in Russia itself. :
    As of January 1, 2013, according to Rosstat, there were 143 [347] permanent residents in Russia.

    As of January 15, 2013, the population of Ukraine amounted to 45 553 000 people [1].
    ___
    Where did he get that more request ? If only I would google
    1. saxa2103
      saxa2103 9 January 2014 09: 37
      +7
      in 1992? Bush senior and Google? but to give him his due, he understands the difference between Russia and Ukraine, unlike the younger one, on which nature resides
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 9 January 2014 10: 54
      +11
      Quote: avant-garde
      Where did he get that more? If only I would google

      You can distinguish the meaning of the phrase "population growth" from "number"?
      What money did you buy stars here?
    3. Kolya
      Kolya 9 January 2014 22: 03
      +1
      Yes, he didn’t get from anywhere. Some Bush farted nonsense, and you dry your head.
    4. Stanislas
      Stanislas 11 January 2014 11: 08
      +1
      Please note that there is no population more, but population growth more. To check, we need to take data on the population not only for January 1992 (the time at which it was approved), but also, say, for January 1989. Then we can compare the growth over 3 years. And the data on the number for 2013 is nothing at all.
  11. stroporez
    stroporez 9 January 2014 08: 16
    +3
    the question arises --- who did the "youngest" go to ???? it seems that they are --- never relatives ...
  12. UVB
    UVB 9 January 2014 08: 19
    +4
    Yes, I didn’t expect such a thing ... If only this interview was actually. Vague doubts torment me.
  13. makarov
    makarov 9 January 2014 08: 21
    +6
    "And Bush Sr. already knew everything."

    And he continued to zealously diligently wherever possible .....
    1. saxa2103
      saxa2103 9 January 2014 09: 41
      +3
      but how did they already filed sectors between each other ... it was, but
  14. Sid.74
    Sid.74 9 January 2014 08: 23
    +14
    Well, it is clear that Bush Sr. is not his son oligophrenic and he understood something in politics!
    But all this hypocrisy is sure on all 100!
    And he is a hyena himself, he fed us with his "legs" at his own expense, were they given out for free?
    Or he wants to say that his elites are completely out of his control and he couldn’t influence them as well, well! On! Well, those whom he wanted to fool, only Americans, only the grave will correct such a capitalist!

    And this phrase !!!
    And I would like to be the same Friend of Russia (why in the word three with? I can immediately see the Russian written!), As I was the Enemy for the Soviets.

    It is not possible to interpret unequivocally. With such friends, your mother is better to be enemies !!!

    The article aims to whitewash the Bush family, and to admonish us that we don’t need Ukraine at all! We must check it out!
    1. sds555
      sds555 9 January 2014 08: 45
      +9
      For whatever it takes, it hides its true interests
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 January 2014 08: 52
      +6
      In general, a flock of fake! From a finger sucked! Why then the mention of this interview from 6-7 January 2014 appeared on the forums!
      But how does this article substantiate the mysterious recording and the video isn’t well, just like a test tube with anthrax pores in the UN! So it turns out that the mention of the interview is there and there is no interview!

      What on the forum Aftershock write!
      The interview was never broadcast. Bush himself, by some reflection, came to the conclusion that it is better not to take this dirty linen out of the hut. But, - all the people in the subject of this interview were in the know. The blessing of Pope Bush’s interviewer was Larry King himself, who just that year received Peabody awards for a television show. And it was a kind of television thanks to Pope Bush, who insisted on 1992 in the year that this award went to Larry King.
      Unfortunately, the video version of this interview was washed away in the presence of Pope Bush's assistants, only the audio track was preserved. But if Th, mentions of this interview are in the memoirs of Larry King. "

      So friends do not see the sentiment from the enemy!
    3. saxa2103
      saxa2103 9 January 2014 09: 56
      +7
      that’s God’s sure to get rid of such friends! and for a ham, he received the votes of farmers or something else, the old fox will never be without profit (There were people who joined me, but we didn’t spend a cent from the federal treasury . Not a cent!) Not a dollar, and the question is, who did this share with him? So that Uncle Scrooge spent his money on charity?
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 9 January 2014 10: 15
      +5
      Quote: Sid.74
      (why in the word three with? Immediately you can see the Russian writing!),

      The one who wrote that, at the word "Russia" - the inner essence wakes up - a viper. Here and "syllables".
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 9 January 2014 11: 35
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Sid.74
        (why in the word three with? Immediately you can see the Russian writing!),

        The one who wrote that, at the word "Russia" - the inner essence wakes up - a viper. Here and "syllables".


        I would say ssychit!

        Lyrics from Spies2 gr.Distemper

        The Stasi are always in touch, they will make mud in the morning,
        Next Mossad agent, again an ambush, like yesterday.

        Spies on the loose
        Under surveillance all the land
        Spies are back in fashion,
        Spies at the helm,
        Spy career -
        Wealth and success
        Doors Spy Aviary
        Open to all.

        The Ministry of Defense is again stumped,
        Millions lost their brutal fat.
        Hunger-free officers and fighters
        After all, they are not to blame, well, not all sages.
        While the weather was spoiling, everyone was thinking about himself
        Changed in these years, and agents of the KGB,
        Lurched, stayed, but the order is already overdue,
        Nowhere they did not share, they again among us.
  15. calocha
    calocha 9 January 2014 08: 41
    +4
    What can Gadin say about the Russians ?! Only sweet POISON.
  16. morpogr
    morpogr 9 January 2014 08: 46
    +8
    Hello to Ukraine from the past, think about where and why you are being called. Bush is a politician who has looked at many moves ahead now, there are almost none. Only GDP plays at such a level, from which he is feared and respected in the West.
    1. sds555
      sds555 9 January 2014 08: 51
      +11
      Yes, well done GDP with foreign policy is in full order, if only I could figure it out from the internal one, there would be a certain amount of feces and there would be a complete order
  17. Same lech
    Same lech 9 January 2014 08: 52
    +10
    In general, in some part, he is right - now the RUSSIAN economy has become more mobile and numerous meaningless expenses for maintaining free international assistance have gone.
    After all, remember someone from our neighbors said RUSSIA thanks for the help in the formation of their states or the preservation of their national identity, no, on the contrary, they spat in our backs.
    Our neighbors got the territories for which our ancestors shed blood and now they are demolishing monuments in their honor. THIS IS JUST.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 9 January 2014 09: 31
      +11
      Let's better say more correctly: "the puppet governments and media of those countries inspired us with the idea that the peoples of their countries are not grateful to us and spit in our backs."
      And about the monuments - there were Bulgarians on Topwar who wrote that yes, the monuments were demolished, but not at the will of the people. And the people, instead of selling these monuments for non-ferrous metal, almost all of them preserved
  18. Barakuda
    Barakuda 9 January 2014 08: 53
    +11
    Quote: avant-garde
    Do you know why the Russians needed Ukraine? Then, that there the population growth is higher than in Russia itself. :
    As of January 1, 2013, according to Rosstat, there were 143 [347] permanent residents in Russia.

    As of January 15, 2013, the population of Ukraine amounted to 45 553 000 people [1].
    ___
    Where did he get that more request ? If only I would google

    With the collapse of the union in Ukraine, it was 52 million. I remember this fucking referendum and leaflets - we have more coal and steel than in France and England, we’ll flood Europe with wheat, we can build missiles, the strongest army in Europe .... So what have come ... 6 million have died out or left, from the army - one junk has remained ...
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      9 January 2014 10: 59
      -11%
      It is now only your personal problems no matter how much the local communes wear out.
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    3. vostok1982
      vostok1982 9 January 2014 11: 19
      +1
      6 died out and the same number of laborers anywhere.
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 9 January 2014 09: 02
    +16
    In general, America will benefit from the loss of Texas. Freedom to Texas.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 January 2014 09: 08
      +13

      I agree to all 100% laughing !
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 9 January 2014 09: 27
      +13
      That's for sure! You perfectly captured the essence of the article. Brainwash, like "what the fuck is Ukraine"
    3. Botanologist
      Botanologist 9 January 2014 20: 08
      +2
      Quote: valokordin
      America will benefit from the loss of Texas. Freedom to Texas.


      More correctly - Texas will benefit from the loss of America.
  20. Senya Gorbunkov
    Senya Gorbunkov 9 January 2014 09: 14
    +5
    Very similar to the truth, at the beginning of the collapse of the union, it was this mood that was supported - the USA and the USSR friends, it seemed now they would show them their cartoons (I was 6-8 years old), there would be no dull hungry 80s, jam, cookies .. that need more?

    Bush Sr. is not durak, the former head of the CIA, unlike his son.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 January 2014 12: 12
      +6
      Not true this article! Fake and provocation!
      From the article ... it is the collapse of the Soviet Union - is my most important defeat. I am afraid that this is a foreign-policy Disaster, the size of which we have not yet understood.

      Quote from the words of Vladimir Putin, “The collapse of the Soviet Union was the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century. For the Russian people, it became a real drama. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and compatriots found themselves outside of Russian territory. ”

      Feel the difference so to speak. And from where the blogger's stuffer ripped off the quote of the current, the meaning has changed !!!
  21. Magadan
    Magadan 9 January 2014 09: 25
    +8
    If the interview is not a fake, then it is very perspicacious for Bush. The only thing that I didn’t like was again thick hints about the "freeloader-Ukraine". Some kind of suggestion that we are all, that we do not need to be together. And I do not like it
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 January 2014 09: 38
      +7
      Fake is Magadan! We noticed how the people became inspired by this scribble, and it is for this attitude that the legs of the article from Ukraine are growing! Criticism Russian does not break it means flattery that will hit us!
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 9 January 2014 10: 04
        +9
        So it scares me that the enemy has turned on a more cunning processing of consciousness! If earlier we were stupidly trying to include complexes about the fact that we were "orphaned and wretched", as well as washed our brains with liberal values, now they began to play more subtly. The most dangerous lie is when 90% is true. Then it goes to the brain, usually. The enemy is afraid of unity precisely at the level of the people. The wedge drives in. Like Ukrainians are freeloaders. And it's sad how our guys from the forum fell for this
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 9 January 2014 10: 23
          +7
          In the same way, the Ukrainians were zombied in 90! They still wrote legends about the leaflets who wrote about Russian parasites who were stripping Mother of Ukraine! This is the disinformation that works! Yes, there Gorbachev still believes that we have done the greatest good!
          So you need to look at everything from a critical angle especially at such obvious flattery! Because I think Bush just wheeled and betrayed him as an impeachment for such statements about the newly fallen enemy of the USSR! They are not going to dance on the graves of the enemy until they are in their nature! Remember, at least, the sick fool Clinton who horned like a horse when she was shown the video of Kadafi’s murder! Ugly one word! am
          1. Sergh
            Sergh 9 January 2014 11: 53
            +6
            Quote: Magadan
            The most dangerous lie is when 90% of the truth

            Quite right, I was also alarmed by his sweet confession, albeit in a peculiar form. But slipping between the lines of spitting in Ukraine and Wed. Asia, leads to the subtle game of the venerable schuller. This "mastadont" weighs every word and will not just praise his enemy.
            1. vasiliysxx
              vasiliysxx 9 January 2014 13: 53
              +5
              He knows that we will all the same come, and we know that we will come. A smart man, the main thing is to survive.
  22. major071
    major071 9 January 2014 09: 30
    +7
    By whom only Bush was not: the director of the CIA, and the president, now signed up for Nostradamus. It was necessary from the very beginning to fig on this path, you look and my son would swing at Vanga’s laurels, and would not carry nonsense as the president of the United States. laughing
  23. oracul
    oracul 9 January 2014 09: 41
    +7
    More likely not a friend and not an enemy, but a stubborn and tough opponent. Moreover, not very stupid. Now you can find a lot of materials that the affairs of the American are far from as cloudless as it seems to someone. And I agree with Bush that the USSR, by its opposition, encouraged the West not to doze off.
    I agree that too flirting with the national republics - do not do good (do not indulge) - you will not get evil. Especially at the expense of his people. Friendship is tested in difficulties and troubles, readiness to work for the common good. It is not bought by money and one-sided concessions. True, I’ll make a reservation, at the level of ordinary people, the problems are not as acute as between the ruling elites. It is they who manipulate the public consciousness through the media, they are most often guided by their own selfish interests, it is from their midst that terry nationalists, agents of influence and outright traitors to popular interests come out.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 January 2014 12: 20
      +4
      Quote: oracul
      Now you can find a lot of materials that the affairs of the American are far from as cloudless as it seems to someone. And I agree with Bush that the USSR, by its opposition, encouraged the West not to doze off.

      What cloudlessness is there, if in USA ghost towns, like Detroit have more than 200, do not have enough of their energy resources, 32 million illiterate, etc.
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  24. ed65b
    ed65b 9 January 2014 09: 42
    +5
    If this is a real interview, then a rather interesting opinion of Bush Sr. but more like fiction, albeit beautiful with a balm for the soul. A lot of cliches.
    1. vostok1982
      vostok1982 9 January 2014 11: 08
      +13
      Yes, I also had doubts right away. Especially regarding the "subsidized" Ukraine. Transport planes, aircraft carriers, liquid-fuel super-missiles - this is not a complete list of what Russia lost with the breakaway of Ukraine. Far from complete.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 9 January 2014 11: 15
        +7
        Why there won’t be Antonov’s airplanes alone so far!
        And what big majestic birds "Ruslan" "Mriya"! Eh ... crying
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      3. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 9 January 2014 12: 16
        +5
        Quote: vostok1982
        Yes, I also had doubts right away. Especially regarding the "subsidized" Ukraine. Transport planes, aircraft carriers, liquid-fuel super-missiles - this is not a complete list of what Russia lost with the breakaway of Ukraine. Far from complete

        Ukraine has also lost all this, since it cannot produce high-tech equipment without Russian components, and it has no funds to build new plants.
        1. vostok1982
          vostok1982 9 January 2014 13: 39
          +4
          By itself. But Ukraine is a part of Russia, and not vice versa.
  25. Alex
    Alex 9 January 2014 09: 43
    +7
    With friends like Bush Sr., no more enemies are needed.
  26. Per se.
    Per se. 9 January 2014 09: 52
    +16
    "The loss of Ukraine is a blessing for the Russians," but what else is "good" for the Russians, what are the losses? Ukraine is the original, indigenous Russia, where Kiev is the mother of all Russian cities. Jackal, overseas, will advise.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 11 January 2014 11: 27
      +1
      At the same time, future (today's) separatists are fed: take a quick look at the list of subsidized regions, since Russia still has a lot of "weights on its feet", separate and separate until you fly into the pipe. Vrazhina, definitely.
  27. Mviktor
    Mviktor 9 January 2014 09: 57
    +4
    - Russia and the Union - as Matryoshka. They were nested in each other. In reality, we competed with Russia, but it was in the form of the Union, that is, it had huge kettlebells on its feet. And the collapse of the USSR America obviously did not go in favor, the bogeyman of communism with which they intimidated everyone disappeared.

    Of course Yulit is the elder Bush, the enemy is filled with friends, but I like some of his thoughts.
    Russia didn’t have its own government; it didn’t have its own budget; all were pulled away by the Asian Union republics. The USSR clearly contained too many parasites, both internal and external
  28. Tartary
    Tartary 9 January 2014 09: 59
    +4
    This one did not say anything new with the formation of a clown ...
    They gave me the opportunity to read Otto von Bismarck ... before he didn’t know what he had said before him a long time ago ... So he decided to try to look like a world philosopher ...
    Damn, in a word.
  29. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 9 January 2014 10: 02
    +5
    Who is a famous clown, it is so Dzhorzhik, and this verbal diarrhea is very useful, so that they do not relax and remember their "friends", only the younger Bush could surpass him. Most likely, these gems appeared against the backdrop of euphoria over the collapse of the USSR, and the thinking abilities of Russians were assessed at the level of "the great liberator Gorbachev"
  30. My address
    My address 9 January 2014 10: 06
    +7
    But what is Bush Sr. right about?

    The fact that the United States could get the most loyal ally, with whom they don’t care about NATO and Britain. In the early 90s, more than half of the population considered America a paradise, an example to follow. And this "paradise" throughout the 90s was ruining us economically, defensively, ideologically, terroristically. All that had to be imposed by an economic adviser, up to the post of prime minister, Nobel laureate Leontiev. Sign a friendship agreement. ........................
    But this could not happen in principle. They say correctly that the States only need vassals. Greed. The greed of the fraer is ruining.

    Surely we will not forget! I teach my children and grandchildren to look at America am like an enemy.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 January 2014 11: 00
      +9
      Quote: My address
      They say correctly that the States only need vassals. Greed. The frayer's greed is ruining. We will not forget it! I teach my children and grandchildren to look at America as an enemy

      USAA is the ideological heir to the British Empire, known for its brutal colonial policies and genocide. The British became famous throughout the world for their unreasonable boundless arrogance.
      In Iraq, Iran, India and other countries of the East they still say - Arrogant as an Englishman - and hate the British and Yankees - Ingliz, Fereng, burn your father, dog!
      Hitler's racial theory has English roots.
      The Yankees are no different from the British, the same unreasonable arrogance, overly exaggerated conceit and arrogance, the same faith in their exclusiveness - The best, most talented Indian, Arab, Russian, below the dirtiest American homeless - this is their unofficial slogan.
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  31. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 9 January 2014 10: 22
    +17
    Until 1991, before the dismemberment of the USSR, the state "Ukraine" never existed. The territory of "Ukraine" until the 14th century was a part of Rus, until the 17th century a part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Commonwealth, from the 17th century a part of Great Rus.
    Russia has lost not Ukraine and part of its primordially Russian territory, inhabited by the overwhelming majority of Russians and in the minority by the polonized "zapadentsy" who have lost their nationality.
    In the 17th century, the degraded part of the population of "Ukraine" under the leadership of Poles and collaborators of Sahaidachny and other geeks participated in attacks on Russian lands, in the 20th century Hitler's lackeys Bandera and other scum fought against the USSR and Russia.
    Now the tyneboki and other geeks are ready to shed Russian blood for the sake of NATO and USAA.
    That’s what the problem is, not what Bush is talking about.
    1. atos_kin
      atos_kin 9 January 2014 14: 06
      +5
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Now the tyneboki and other geeks are ready to shed Russian blood for the sake of NATO and USAA.


      Already shed in Stalingrad (see Khrushchevsky Volgograd) to scare the Russians, called Ukrainians in the nineteenth century and living in Ukraine (the outskirts) of Russia.
  32. oaziss
    oaziss 9 January 2014 11: 04
    +4
    Article minus. What kind of nonsense and where is the link to the original source?
  33. vostok1982
    vostok1982 9 January 2014 11: 06
    +9
    What grenades? He has a clearly misconception about relations within the USSR. There were no people of the first grade and second. Bush is clearly stuck in old America, one where racial segregation existed.
  34. psyholirik
    psyholirik 9 January 2014 11: 07
    +5
    NEVER Russia with Russian people will not be an ally of the United States. NEVER!!!!!!
  35. Alexander_V
    Alexander_V 9 January 2014 11: 21
    +10
    “Do you know why the Russians needed Ukraine? Then, that there the population growth is higher than in Russia itself. In past wars, Russians needed Ukrainians to have someone to throw with grenades under German tanks. But only."
    In his article, the cunning fox Bush, according to the formula Divide and Conquer (lat. Divide et impera), is trying to quarrel two fraternal peoples who fought together against fascism in order to strengthen pro-American positions both in Ukraine and in Russia, to create a political confrontation between the two countries. America has never waged real wars on its territory. Her foreign policy has always been aimed at creating hotbeds of tension in other regions and extracting economic profits from this, including the sale of weapons to conflicting parties and food. “Bush’s legs” were by no means free - we gave our honestly earned money for them. I think Bush made good money on this.
  36. Song Hu Chan
    Song Hu Chan 9 January 2014 11: 26
    +4
    Complete inadequate, imagining himself Machiavelli! Now it’s clear that the United States with its geoglobal policy
    stalled if the Bushes think they are smarter. But what about the rest of the Beidelber Club?
    It would be nice to oppose them all with similar opuses.
  37. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 9 January 2014 11: 52
    +6
    In past wars, Russians needed Ukrainians to have someone to throw with grenades under German tanks.
    - this is George W. Bush's nonsense, judges by itself, this is the Americans looking for their "wars" - "cannon fodder, from NATO member countries. Russians and Ukrainians - ONE people, (Western, bandra - it doesn’t matter)! And they perished on the fronts - equally Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians, and all honest people of the former USSR who considered the USSR as their MOTHERLAND!
    And about the fact that Russia dropped "weights" - I agree with this, but those who "freed" the funds went straight into the pockets of a dozen thieves, who to this day "shoe" the people of Russia. Yes, I don't really see much benefit from the fact that these "weights" have been dropped. In these countries, for more than 20 years, the people have become impoverished, the percentage of people with even primary education has fallen, and they migrate in millions to Russia, with the connivance of the Russian government, which is already becoming a threat to indigenous Russians ...
  38. hrenodir
    hrenodir 9 January 2014 12: 02
    +2
    I think Bush is right. After the collapse of the USSR, only Russia was able to withstand. The rest of the republics, to varying degrees, have radios, some to a greater extent, some to a lesser extent. And about Matrasia how he guessed! All in debt like silk!
  39. Peter 1
    Peter 1 9 January 2014 12: 06
    +6
    The collapse of the union is really the biggest disaster. and the rest is American bullshit. We will not sell them our lands
  40. major071
    major071 9 January 2014 12: 21
    +9
    Much has been said about the Bush
    I will add only one:
    What is the oldest, what is the youngest
    Do not twist - der (b) mo! laughing
    1. Federal
      Federal 9 January 2014 13: 28
      +4
      hardly your precious opinion and insults are of interest to anyone even here ....
      1. major071
        major071 9 January 2014 14: 23
        +5
        This is your opinion, and who cares or not, it's not up to you. fool Good health! hi
  41. vovan50
    vovan50 9 January 2014 12: 26
    +6
    "Friend in Need is - Friend indeed." I agree with this, and if they really helped us then, and would not rush to rob (and we still pay them), then relations with the United States we would have been completely different. ”At least then I very much hoped for it.
    But with this "and that the Ukrainians should work for them in the same way that the Mexicans work for us" I do not agree. The Ukrainians are not at all for us what the Mexicans are for the Americans. They are part of our Russian people. Our friends and relatives live there. We will help, we will not become poor, we will not die of hunger, but we will remain friends forever.
  42. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 13: 15
    +10
    Bush either gave an interview, or dictated a draft of the accounting report ... Russia dumped such "non-core" assets, made such and such "savings", with this "economy" it will "feed" its people, acquire even more weapons again for everyone a biter, only more terrible ... Nonsense ... First, Ukraine had a huge industrial potential - auto, ship, aircraft, rocket and whatever you want ... In Ukraine, technically competent personnel were brought up, even super-literate, excellent officers and sailors ... And here we are talking about the agrarian wheat-harbor republic ... Ukraine was part of the supporting system of the Union ... Now Ukraine is an unstable state in the center of Europe, which cannot fully integrate into this very Europe, Neither Germany nor even Poland consider it to be equal ... Ukraine has become such a political "invalid", whom they also want to sell for organs ... And if we talk about some kind of weights, then Ukraine at least was in equilibrium state, now she swing the country with the population of two Yugoslavia is swinging, swinging, under the weight of economic, political and other problems ... The rest of the former republics are in the same swing, well, or in a slight vibration from the same ... That is, a rather unstable system has formed in the place of the Union with variable amplitude of problems, and accountant Bush talks about some kind of subsidies for the village ... Nonsense ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 9 January 2014 13: 28
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      Bullshit...

      True! And although not in the "last resort", but TRUE ...
      It is extremely important to analyze the reasons for the systemic failure of Ukraine in order to give them a full-fledged assessment and develop a strategy to attract the former republic to the fold of Russia.
      They want to convince us that Ukraine is a "torn off piece", that there are no prospects for close cooperation ...

      Yes, they all went to .......

      In my opinion on the UNIVERSE.
  43. Tetros
    Tetros 9 January 2014 13: 24
    -8
    He is absolutely right. The union strongly restrained us and rolled downhill. And we would have chosen oh for how long. You understand our influence on the neighbors left, responsibility for the fate of, say, the Asian republics has disappeared. And about the help he was right. America, if it behaved normally and helped to get out in a short time, having lost momentary benefits, would have acquired perhaps the most powerful support. And now China is receiving this support. Do not think that there are only scum on the top - if I remember their evil they are remembered at the top. We remember how they ruined us, well, of course we survived it and the time to pay the bills. Just politics and revenge serve cold wink

    We are now not allowing Ukraine to leave our influence, but we are not pouring it into ourselves + 45 lyamov and we really will not raise it. And why, if we can already have open borders and travel to each other without it. Become strong Russian living there will get over to us and so. And Bandera let them sow corn and sell for cheap. No offense to ordinary Ukrainians - this is a very muddy matter - fraternization with the Ukrainian elite. And there are also nationalists ...
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 11 January 2014 11: 47
      +1
      Quote: Tetros
      responsibility for the fate of, say, the Asian republics has disappeared.
      Where did she disappear? Either the Central Asian republics will slowly but steadily increase the welfare of their citizens as part of the CU, or if our responsibility disappears, they will be a springboard for endless color revolutions, NATO bases and terrorist camps.
  44. Federal
    Federal 9 January 2014 13: 26
    +2
    wow ... BRAVO! It’s not without reason that Bush is the senior legend of American politics .... What’s the bastard Clinton or the crazy son Bush? this is what it is now ... I remember the times of the ever-hungry Moscow and Russia, now on the border of Rostov, an autobahn from Russia and a scoop in the Lugansk region. Hohland. Construction on the growths. regions do not calm down, we have quiet bombed roads, eternal collapsed collective farms, state farms, in short, there’s nowhere to hunt tea, we need grandmothers again, I have urged the Russians not to pay a cent for a long time, let the Khokhlostan himself think how to get out of this asshole ... Bravo Bush!
  45. ochakow703
    ochakow703 9 January 2014 13: 54
    +1
    Everything is correct. Just one more black hole must not be forgotten, these are the countries of the socialist camp. By the way, all the "friends and like-minded people" sold us for cheap in difficult times. And how many sympathizers were fed and armed. Horror. Putin was absolutely correct in saying that there can be no friends in foreign policy, but only partners.
  46. Sultan
    Sultan 9 January 2014 13: 56
    +4
    I don’t know, right, what to think about this ... Whether it is a lie or the truth is not important. What is important for us today is that we are becoming stronger ... Deprivation and hardening temper our character and will, prevent us from relaxing, and make us keep our muscles and brains in good shape. Perhaps this is the meaning of this article. But the most important thing is why we should be strong - because the truth is ours, we are fair. And if we are honest with ourselves, don’t lie to each other, don’t take and don’t give bribes, observe the laws of our Motherland, the norms of decency and morality - We will become a hundred times stronger!
  47. BOB48
    BOB48 9 January 2014 13: 59
    -5
    - Russia and the Union - as Matryoshka. They were nested in each other. In reality, we competed with Russia, but it was in the form of the Union, that is, it had huge kettlebells on its feet. Now these dumbbells are removed during the collapse of the Union - it is famously said, I can’t believe that Bush!
  48. Cherdak
    Cherdak 9 January 2014 14: 15
    +3
    ... the former spokesman for Bush Sr., who was preparing these answers, is an obvious brainwashing specialist. Current - Jim McGrath - Wimp
  49. Black
    Black 9 January 2014 14: 28
    +4
    Quote: igorra
    Here is a real rival for Putin! Or a friend? Or an enemy?

    For Putin - his son can be at least one. at least to another.
    This one is a cunning old fox (there are no others in the Lodge). do not believe Danians, gentlemen.
  50. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 14: 32
    +3
    Quote: Tetros
    The union strongly restrained us and rolled downhill.

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    Who are we? Ukraine? I remember, I remember these cries in 1990 "Ukraine will live on its own, we have bread, bacon and coal in bulk!" ... Well, and unforgettable in a nutshell "citizens of Moscow get out!" in translation, of course, in the original the censorship filter will not pass, you know how to replace the words with Ukrainian counterparts ...
    1. Tetros
      Tetros 10 January 2014 03: 05
      +1
      Why Ukraine - Russia. Do you remember this piece of paper? Well, where is all this ... That's the same. Therefore, I am against direct accession, TC, please, CSTO, but you can, but donate neither.