Technique and education. Man can not be replaced, but he can be helped

Not only in upbringing, but also in education, a technician will not be able to completely replace a person in any foreseeable future for a very simple reason: a significant part of education and almost all conscious upbringing lies in answering questions that arise in a child.

I think I myself grew up well educated (and even somewhat clever), not least because my parents were always ready to answer my questions. Obviously, they often sent me to books, saying that they could not answer such a question, and I should read about it. But if I only found out everything from books, my education would be very long. Indeed, in books, answers, as a rule, have to look for longer. From my parents, I received answers to the main part of my questions fairly quickly. Accordingly, I had more time to search for answers to those questions that my parents could not cope with, or they wanted me to do at least something on my own, without relying on them. I suppose if I studied only from books, if parents didn’t answer my questions so quickly and so willingly, then I wouldn’t have physically enough time to gain so much knowledge, let alone think about them, because education is not so much recognition new how much thinking about what you learn.

Based on the above experience, I think: even in education it is impossible to rely only on books, but it is also impossible to rely on training machines, since such a machine is unlikely to be able to respond quickly and accurately to the whole range of unexpected questions. As far as I can tell, modern technology is still very far from such a level to automatically answer questions - and even asked in free form, because the child cannot formalize his questions so that the machine can understand them.

As for upbringing, the equipment here is generally unlikely to be able to give at least something. As a person who has been involved in the development of quite complex programs for a couple of decades, including automation programs for managing technological processes (that is, those designed primarily to respond quickly and correctly to very unexpected events), due to my professional experience I don’t believe that in the foreseeable future, create a program that can properly respond to the behavior of the child and, accordingly, educate him. And such a reaction is necessary, because education is not primarily the assignment of patterns of behavior, but the prompt response to possible deviations from these patterns. It is clear that it is absolutely impossible to foresee the whole range of possible deviations in advance and, accordingly, it is impossible to set the correct program behavior in response to any deviation.

Therefore, it seems to me that technology can help in education in only one way - to reduce the cost of human strength in training, so that a person has more time for education. Although I have already said that the technician cannot fully take on the responsibilities associated with training, but it can still significantly help this process. There are quite a few methods of education, based on the machine, and this support can somewhat reduce the cost of human strength for training. And if a person spends less time and energy on the pupil’s education, he will accordingly be able to pay more attention to the education of this person.

And I also want to emphasize: in my opinion, education and upbringing are sides of a single process. It is impossible to separate one from the other to the full - simply because a person brings up, first of all, not by words, but by personal example, and from what example the teacher shows by his behavior, it largely depends on how his students will be brought up.

There are probably a great many examples, but I will not give examples, but I will limit myself to an old Soviet-era joke. What is the difference between the commissar and the political officer (that is, the deputy commander for political work)? The commissioner says “do as I do”, and the deputy politician says “do as I say.” So, if we seriously hope that the child will do what we say, then no hope for a good upbringing of this child is even worth feeding. It is necessary to proceed precisely from the fact that the tutor must be, among other things, also to a large extent a model for the educated. And the main thing that a technician can help with in education is to free up such a share of the teacher’s time and effort so that he has more opportunities to act as a good educator.

Comments

[d_trader]

Well, it is clear that the author is respected by many, including a person, but why should this article be posted on this site? In it, besides the words "commissar" and "political officer" in the last paragraph on military issues or politics, there is nothing.

[sledgehammer102]

Quote: d_trader

In it, besides the words "commissar" and "political officer" in the last paragraph on military topics or politics, there is nothing.

All the problems, defeats and victories of our country began with education, and as a result, with the mind. So the article is a definite plus, more precisely, to the author Wasserman, one of the few whose thoughts are worth listening to and discussing about them.

Key phrase of the article:

So, if we seriously hope that the child will do what we say, then no hope for a good upbringing of this child should not even be nourished. We must proceed from the fact that the educator should be, among other things, also to a large extent a model for the educated.

Father smokes - the child is also likely to smoke
A father beats his mother and is rude to others - his child will not rust
The father deceives, steals or gives bribes - the child is unlikely to go far from this.
If the father is the person who keeps his word, for whom money and "rating" are not an object of worship, then the child will grow up to be a true patriot of his country and the property of society.

People in power, they are officials - in the past they were all children, and that they poured a jug into this one, figuratively speaking, it will flow from it.
From here came the following folk wisdom:
First:
The fish rots from the head (i.e. from the father of the family or your own head). But for some reason, it’s more convenient for everyone to take for the head not himself, but the President or someone else.
And the second one:
Government is a mirror of society (of the people). The explanation was given above. But specifically, I focus on such a problem as corruption, which is a consequence of such a feeling as HARVEST and problems with CONSCIENCE.

True, all of the above does not justify thosewho gives bribes and takes bribes, who steals other people's money or allows himself to be rudeness both in the offices, on the forums and so on.

I know that this post will be met with hostility, but this is the truth, which needs to be looked into the eyes and understood, and preferably used for the good of your country, namely: educate children properly so that from them grow real men of the Fatherland !!!

Ready for the cons !!!!

[valokordin]

Quote: sledgehammer102

Ready for the cons !!!!

Previously, Soviet youth were ready for work and defense, but now for the minuses. Of course, Vladimir Putin is not to blame for anything, the people are to blame. What kind of people are such and boyars. Conclusion must begin to fight against this people is not guilty, but thieving.

[sledgehammer102]

Quote: valokordin

Previously, Soviet youth were ready for work and defense, but now for the minuses. Of course, Vladimir Putin is not to blame for anything, the people are to blame. What kind of people are such and boyars. Conclusion must begin to fight against this people is not guilty, but thieving.

The conclusions were misunderstood.
The country is a society, and society is a family. Officials come from this society, among them there are honest and thievish and rude and so on, as in the society from which they came out. And the task of each of us is to live our lives and raise our children in such a way that they are not ashamed of their actions.

The same applies to Caucasians, there was a very decent people, now a certain part of it has completely lost all the values ​​and heritage of its ancestors, which we can see on the streets of our cities, and all because in specific families they could not or did not want or they themselves could not give a moral basis for their development and growth.

[mirag2]

We have not had 20 years of education of society, as a force-creating and driving force for progress in YOUR COUNTRY, and still there is none.

[sledgehammer102]

Quote: mirag2

We have not had 20 years of education of society, as a force-creating and driving force for progress in YOUR COUNTRY, and still there is none.

You are right at 100%, the upbringing of society is the driving force of the country's development.

And since 1991, we have no systematic, and when formed vacuum values ​​/ education, then it can easily be filled with any other ideology, either "orange", "Wahhabist", "Nazi" and, one of the most dangerous - "ideology of the golden calf and the omnipotence of money"

[Energet1k_]

Quote: sledgehammer102

The country is a society, and society is a family. Officials come from this society, among them there are honest and thievish and rude and so on, as in the society from which they came out. And the task of each of us is to live our lives and raise our children in such a way that they are not ashamed of their actions.

Plus, the reasoning of a sane person. Probably all the patriots of Russia want to change the country and have repeatedly asked themselves the question: how can I help, what can I do, etc. .. And the conclusion, I think, is obvious and contained in the old wisdom- Do you want to change the world, start with yourself! Then from his close circle, family, friends, etc. Everyone who still has a conscience should appeal to her, and I am sure that there are a majority in our country, and those who don’t have one, put him on the count! I believe - everything is in our hands!

[dark_65]

Put a plus, since the thoughts are similar.
School, poor nutrition, authorities, Chubais ... are always to blame ... other scum, and never ourselves.
The boy grows up dead, the physical education officer is to blame (beer doesn’t get on the playground with the child), no girl grows (well, well, do you have to teach her home economics, but what about the fig?).
Therefore, apparently there will be cons (since there is a specific person who pointed out the shortcomings, and love him for it? )

[alone]

The Military Review website is already dealing with problems of general education. Well, what can you do if education is firmly in the hands of p (e) reformers, who with special zeal p (d) shape it

[sledgehammer102]

Quote: lonely

The Military Review website is already dealing with problems of general education. Well, what can you do if education is firmly in the hands of p (e) reformers, who with special zeal p (d) shape it

Education begins with the family, and it is she who plays the decisive role, then the school, and then the circle of communication, which in turn directly depends on the parents' brains.

[Christian]

Without a decent upbringing, there will be nobody to defend the Homeland!

[d_trader]

Yes, and at Wasserman in the photo, unloading which with a stretch can be called military. It was always interesting to find out what he wears in her constantly ...

[valokordin]

There is great disappointment that the current rulers did not have Anatoly's parents as teachers in childhood, although he himself is suitable for his parents by age. But they are not hearing, so we are in a big hole. God forgive me.

[makarov]

"I think I myself grew up well educated (and even to some extent smart), not least because my parents were always ready to answer my questions .."

This is how the upbringing of a child in my family takes place. And always and everywhere, I advocate just such an approach, since in other social institutions the child is impersonal, and the approach to him is on the "AS ALL" principle.

[artifox]

Unfortunately, the technique not only does not help, but often does harm, because the child is unlearned from thinking and searching (including in books). He begins to work on the principle - why strain - everything is on the Internet (in particular on Wikipedia). He begins not to read books and write essays - but to look for essays and already read and write them - without reading the book itself. Etc. etc. - which leads to degradation. Technique is good when it helps to think. In modern conditions - she wears out thinking ...

[Same lech]

Author Anatoly Wasserman-at Anatoly the holidays are still going on (the person relaxed and talks about moral things - in general, resting)

[demotivator]

Quote: d_trader

Well, it is clear that the author is respected by many, including a person, but why should this article be posted on this site? In it, besides the words "commissar" and "political officer" in the last paragraph on military issues or politics, there is nothing.

Wasserman raised the right topic. Today nowhere without a normal education and upbringing. And even more so in the army and navy. So, on this site, this article is on the case. The only question is which education and upbringing is considered correct. It is important for us to understand what we mean by the concept of "education" in general and military education in particular. In the last century, Germany, which lost the First World War, managed to create a powerful war machine and prepared the necessary number of generals, officers and non-commissioned officers for the war, without having a single military school and military academy. The question is - where did so many military experts of different levels come from that Germany brought half of Europe to its knees? Where did she "educate" them? The chief of staff of the German armed forces, Field Marshal Keitel, did not have the slightest military education at all. Not that he was not happy to study with professors of the Academy of the General Staff, but he did not even graduate from a military school for a generally simple reason - there were simply no military schools or academies in Germany. In Germany, officers did not study with professors, but with officers.
Field Marshal The model, whom Hitler during the war threw from front to front to the most difficult sections, also did not have the slightest military education. He joined the army as a private, in 1910 he became an ensign, and in 1918 he was transferred to the General Staff.
Field Marshals Manstein and Rommel, according to the American historian S. Mitchem, graduated from military academies, but the fact is that the Americans also have a police school that graduates from the rank-and-file police, called the academy. Manstein and Rommel joined the ranks before the First World War, and several years later, according to the American, they studied at some “military academies”, and Manstein began his studies at the academy as an ensign and after a few months was released as lieutenant, and Rommel began his studies as non-commissioned officer -officer and after the academy became ensign. That is, these German "academies" were at best something like our junior lieutenant courses. Manstein and Rommel no longer had any diplomas. Therefore, we have any officer of the Red Army for the presence of papers on military education was simply a generalissimo in comparison with them. If it was necessary to fight not by skill, but by diplomas of graduation from schools and academies, then generals and officers of the Red Army would have driven the Germans to Africa in a month. But it did not work, diplomas did not help. On this occasion, we can say this: German officers learned to fight with German officers, and therefore they fought as officers, and our officers learned to fight with teachers, and therefore fought as teachers.
Rounding up, I note that not always having a diploma of education indicates the presence of mind. Already at the end of the XNUMXth century, the psychology classic Le Bon wrote about this, then Leo Tolstoy spoke about this in the novel “Resurrection”, deriving the image of a prosecutor who graduated from both the gymnasium and the university with a gold medal, but who was an exceptional idiot in his work. However, university professors and academics in society have such a significant weight that society for no reason considers their chatter holy water from a storehouse of wisdom and no, and no one’s arguments that you need to think about the meaning of what is happening with education in society have no effect. Society is deeply convinced that without higher education diplomas we will be lost. In the eyes of society, only one is a specialist who has such a diploma. This is a very serious mistake, in my opinion.

[My address]

Continuing yours, Mikhail thoughts:
An acquaintance of mine, an engineer by training and fact, said: "Often a normal consideration is better than just higher education."
As a former commander and former production manager, I know that the foundation of a good fighter / worker is in education. This is then experience, education ...

[Begemot]

I have young girls working in the department who have passed through the exam. They are from good families, they have certain moral principles, they were able to quite easily be taught though complex, but still formalized operations and procedures, BUT, from time to time they give out such pearls from the field of general science that people a little older tear their stomachs out of laughter.
Besides, I come across teachers on duty, I must say that the impression is heavy.
Education was one of the highest achievements of the USSR, now everything is destroyed, commercialized, concepts and goals have been replaced.
My grandson came for the holidays (4 class). For two days I put up with his capital’s major manners (playing on a tablet, watching foreign cartoons, etc.), and then he allocated a shovel and we cleaned the estate from the snow, repaired the buildings, tidied up the garage, only after that went fishing, snowmobiling and shooting from a carbine and other pleasures. Left happy! Children are pliable for good deeds, the main thing is that there is someone to teach them this.

[sledgehammer102]

Quote: Begemot

For two days, I put up with his capital’s major manners (playing on a tablet, watching foreign cartoons, etc.), and then he allocated a shovel and we cleaned the manor from snow, repaired the buildings, tidied up the garage, only then went fishing, riding a snowmobile and shooting from a carbine and other pleasures. Left happy!

I applaud while standing! You are well done! Such people also grow worthy sons and grandchildren!

[velikoros-xnumx]

for education is not so much learning new things as thinking about what you learn.

my respect Anatoly Alexandrovich Very accurate definition.

[Stinger]

education and upbringing are sides of a single process. It is impossible to completely separate one from the other - simply because a person educates, first of all, not by words, but by personal example,

Key phrase. It’s not for nothing that people say: With whom you will lead, from that you will gain.