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Mikhail Khazin: Khodorkovsky is the only person who can publicly say: “We were all thieves”

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Mikhail Khazin: Khodorkovsky is the only person who can publicly say: “We were all thieves”About Khodorkovsky last week write so much that you can be stunned. And they often write such nonsense that even Khodorkovsky himself begins to curse (which is clearly seen in those of his interviews that are published here). Inevitably, a desire also arises to say something on this topic, and something new and interesting is desirable. Even if for this new there are no special grounds, but just like that - to play around with information. Consider this text as such a game, although, as usual, “a fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ...”


First of all, I would like with indignation to brush off any nonsense about the release of the "prisoner of conscience." Because about the “prisoner of conscience” we hear either from officials (whose work is such - to engage in propaganda), or from “human rights” organizations. The latter always raise a lot of questions about who pays them, why, and why, but in the case of Khodorkovsky there is a clear criterion that I follow. The fact is that, unlike Khodorkovsky, there are real political prisoners in Russia. For example, Colonel Kvachkov. And I consider this a real human rights organization only that which actively defends the interests of a prisoner of conscience (there are no quotes) Kvachkov. Accordingly, I am ready to recognize Khodorkovsky as a “prisoner of conscience” only if the organization calls him as such, which primarily defends the interests of Kvachkov. If those of Khodorkovsky are not called a “prisoner of conscience,” it means that he is not.

It is naive to think that Western leaders, who are “human rights” (quotes, of course, since Kvachkov does not protect) organizations and finance, do not know all this. That is, they actively advocate for a person who is sitting for criminal offenses and for not being able to reach an agreement with his partners / competitors, knowing this very well. But then what is behind their activity? It is not enough in the world of criminals, is it not enough swindlers who quarreled with more successful partners? Of course, one can assume that the fact is that Khodorkovsky, a practically complete analogue of Malchish-Plokhish from the famous work of Arkady Gaidar, is “his” bourgeois for them, but their activity is painfully high for this. That is, most likely, there is not only pure ideology, but there is also some more, more pragmatic reason. Which one? Let's try to speculate.

The main task of the West of the second half of the twentieth century was the destruction of the USSR / Russia. She also moved to the XXI century, but by his second decade the situation had changed. The global and systemic economic crisis fundamentally changed the geopolitical reality, because of the hatred of the USSR, the West “pumped” China too much, in general, it began to have serious problems. And today he desperately needs a strong Russia, which could be a geopolitical counterweight to China and (at least in this respect) a partner of the West. There is only one problem.

Which consists in the fact that in the process of destruction of the USSR and the formation of the current corruption regime in Russia, the West quite purposefully supported the most destructive and Russophobic forces, moreover, deliberately organized privatization in such a way as to maximize corruption in the country through it. Including because corrupt officials, of course, do not keep their money in Russia, that is, in the West, which means they are easily managed. Actually, the first large money and capital in the USSR / Russia were exclusively of corruption-privatization origin, respectively, all competitive projects were filled with this shaft of criminal money. And this system was “put” by American (and, to a lesser extent, European Union) advisers. Therefore, it is not surprising that in modern Russian society the words “liberal” and “democrat” are clearly associated with the words “thief” and “corrupt”.

If today the West needs a strong (well, albeit relatively, but significantly stronger than it is now) Russia, then it must achieve a substantial recovery of its elite. That is, to demand the coming to power of the forces of knowingly patriotic, frankly hostile to the current pro-Western Russian corruption elite and extremely suspicious of the liberal West in general. And the continuation of the support of the current liberals and democrats leads to the fact that the electoral potential of pro-Western forces drops significantly.

The latter must be said separately. For Eastern countries (and Russia in particular) the word “democracy” is simply one of the abstract terms. Everyone here knows that it is impossible to realize this phenomenon in practice and it does not work in reality. Accordingly, the majority (almost all) believe that the West sees “democracy” as an ideological term, simply declaring that the countries he likes are “democratic” and the rest are not. Most likely, this is true, but the West itself will desperately resist such an interpretation, for it “democracy” is a sacred term. Therefore, the demand for electoral perspectives for those forces that support him in any country is not an empty sound for him!

But in today's Russia this is impossible, since the pro-Western forces are “liberals” and “democrats” who in society are associated with total theft and corruption. It is for this reason that they cannot receive more percent than 6 – 7 in any fair election, especially if they are openly talking about their plans. And for the West it is a serious problem. And the question is - what can he do here? On the one hand, Russia needs to be strengthened and supported (which even Brzezinski writes about), on the other hand, this inevitably leads to the elimination of the population that is sincerely oriented towards the West today. If only because he keeps his money there.

I see only one option here. It is necessary to look for other groups in Russia that have chances for electoral support, on which the West should rely. Let's call these people, conditionally, “new liberals”. What should they do to increase their potential in society? They must fight against corruption, for democracy and the support of small and medium-sized businesses - that is, that part of the population for which a certain level of freedom and democracy is simply the only way to survive! And it should be done openly and honestly!

There is only one problem. Today, the “old” liberals “privatized” this field of activity, which use it as the main blackmail tool of the West in terms of the need to support them. And since their financial leverage is enormous, they do it very, very well. All attempts by independent right-wing forces to enter this political field end badly for them, they are beaten by the authorities (who never love anywhere and fight against corruption without sanction), and the official “rightists” (who does not smile at all to be thrown out of authorities as founders of the corruption system).

In general, without serious support from the West, and very high quality, so that the “new liberals” in Russia cannot be blamed for being spies and agents of influence, it will not work out to unleash them. But at the same time, the “old” liberals themselves are actively using Western levers (did you think that corruption is only in Russia?) In order to support itself, loved ones. And here we need a very strong lever that, on the one hand, would help the “new” liberals in Russia dissociate themselves from the “old” in the eyes of society, and on the other, would allow the Western elites to command their media, human rights organizations and other sheluponi rebuild. In terms of who and how to maintain. And such a lever could be a revision of views on privatization.

The West has already raised this question, but somehow it has not received development. However, this is understandable. The fact that privatization was total theft, was said by many, from public figures to laureates of the prize to them. Nobel on the economy (Stiglitz). The latter, by the way, suffered from it - thieves do not like being told in their faces who they are. But the propaganda of privatization as the light of “freedom and democracy” was so total that against its background any voices outside this process were lost. So, the geopolitical task, which is described at the beginning of the text and which faces the West, remains unsolvable until recently. And here Khodorkovsky appeared ...

Who is the only person who can publicly say: “We were all thieves, and everyone knew it! Yes, we acted within the framework of a general consensus, yes, when YUKOS arose, I was already a decent entrepreneur, etc., etc., but the privatization process was total theft and corruption! ”The most important thing here is that he can say not “they”, but “we”! Because it will not be uttered by an external observer, but by an internal participant in the process. Which, if you will, will break through the collective responsibility of privatization theft! And this is the very step that can allow the West to fundamentally change propaganda accents and get out of the impasse in which he has driven himself! Since after this, it will be possible to clearly separate the "old" liberals (who are thieves) and the "new" ones, who are honest and noble.

At the same time, this will not create any problems for Khodorkovsky (well, with the exception of hatred from the old Russian oligarchs and Yeltsin officials, but he is hardly interested in their opinion), since he paid for his mistakes. From the point of view of higher justice, he is pure and can afford to speak the truth.

Actually, this can end. I absolutely do not insist that it was for the sake of the implementation of this scenario that Khodorkovsky was released and continues to actively promote. Moreover, it is possible that such a scenario is not actively considered by the West today. But I do not see any other pragmatic sense in the current events with Khodorkovsky.
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  1. Christian
    Christian 9 January 2014 07: 37
    +12
    “We were all thieves”
    -THEM AND CONTINUE TO REMAIN.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 9 January 2014 07: 46
      +6
      For ten years he did not admit, and then he suddenly admits at large - this will not happen.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 08: 08
        +5
        Quote: bomg.77
        For ten years he did not admit, and then he suddenly admits at large - this will not happen.


        Of course it will not !!!
        He (Khodor) himself declares that he is a political prisoner and is not a thief, so Khazin once again wrote a very strange and contradictory article, which cannot be said about the neighbor, written by Wasserman. The difference between ALARMS и REALISTS.

        About "kickbacks" и "roofs" the words were heard only in the High Court of London from Birch and Abramych, but no one spoke of theft there either.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 9 January 2014 08: 33
          +5
          It’s just that the structure of the business at that time was different — then the channel now is almost a crime, and the attitude of people towards their business is now like theft.
          In fact, it was like that — pump oil, take your dibs, what is the law — even if they sold the amer missiles (X-31 without a seeker and warhead) —that they would develop their own missile defense for them ...
        2. dark_65
          dark_65 9 January 2014 09: 41
          +1
          And there they steal, but in a "gentlemanly" way, but they still stick around.
          1. Oleg14774
            Oleg14774 9 January 2014 14: 43
            +2
            Quote: dark_65
            And there they steal, but in a "gentlemanly" way, but they still stick around.

            There is no such thing as "stealing" like a gentleman! This is all PR. As in that joke, when a man comes with a sex therapist and says: Doc, I'm gay!
            He’s the one, and who are you?
            -Not!
            -Artist?
            -Not!
            -Artist?
            -Not! I'm a locksmith!
            -Ah ... so what are you gay !? You are my friend 3,14 to the races!
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 9 January 2014 08: 14
        +13
        Quote: bomg.77
        For ten years he did not admit, and then he suddenly admits at large - this will not happen.

        - I agree! "But I do not see any other pragmatic meaning in the current events with Khodorkovsky" - something very likely explanation. The version "before the Olympics" to look more humane, improve images and therefore amnesty and pardon all those who are so dear to the West "- it seems to me more viable, although this is my personal IMHO.
        And two more remarks - in SABJ the privatization of the 90s is named after itself: "total theft and corruption." The winners include representatives of one of the smallest diaspora in Russia, other representatives of which also write offended letters to me in a personal, they say, you can call us what you want! Yes, I will name it by SABZHU - thieves and corrupt officials!
        And special thanks to the author for Kvachkov. If Khazin is a communist by conviction, but at the same time is a specialist in the field of market economy, then this is a very valuable frame, and there is a hope that with the help of a team of such specialists it will be possible to make a second attempt to create a socialist economy - an alternative to the current Western Anglo-Saxon-Jewish model. Indeed, during the years of perestroika, an acute shortage of such specialists led to failure. Well, who knew about the market economy there? Abalkin? So so ... Yavlinsky with his "500 days"? In general, laughter ... In the end, it remains to state that all this ended in total theft and corruption.
      3. Andrey57
        Andrey57 9 January 2014 11: 07
        +3
        He has already admitted - the very request for pardon addressed to the President is a plea of ​​guilt and a request for pardon, so everything is okay with the confession, the only question is who needs it and why! wink
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 9 January 2014 14: 52
        +1
        Quote: bomg.77
        For ten years he did not admit, and then he suddenly admits at large - this will not happen.


        What is most interesting - he can not only say that he was a thief, but also get candy for it!

        So here. They made personal comrade of GDP out of the light of democracy, and he also says thanks for this at every opportunity.
  2. demotivator
    demotivator 9 January 2014 07: 44
    +11
    .... privatization process - it was total theft and corruption!

    At the same time, the president believes that the results of privatization are not subject to revision. On the one hand, we admit that it was one of the greatest scams in the history of the country. On the other hand, "there will be no revision." But what about the declared fight against corruption? After all, this very corruption was at the heart of privatization. Otherwise, people like Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, Potanin, Abramovich and other promissory notes suddenly, overnight, became oligarchs. It was in the United States that Henry Ford made his fortune with his mind and painstaking work. Where did this capital come from?
    1. d_trader
      d_trader 9 January 2014 07: 46
      +1
      The time has not come yet. There are many nuances that we don’t even know about.
      1. Christian
        Christian 9 January 2014 07: 50
        +7
        "Newans" one-raven will not peck out a crow's eyes!
      2. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 08: 15
        -2
        Quote: d_trader
        And the president, however, believes that the results of privatization are not subject to revision.


        I would also like that, though I don’t understand on what basis will this privatization be reviewed, since it was carried out in accordance with the laws of that time.

        Disposing of money will not bring anything good, on the contrary, there will be another rollback to 10-15 years ago in development, and legal (legal) methods are not the fact that they exist.

        Quote: demotivator
        It is in the USA that Henry Ford made his fortune with his mind and painstaking labor.

        But this was a very bad example. The image is formed on individual positive characteristics, and where all those dark deeds that helped Ford use the cheap labor of people are omitted.
    2. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 9 January 2014 07: 55
      0
      Quote: demotivator
      And the president, however, believes that the results of privatization are not subject to revision.


      Unfortunately he cannot do this. Bo will not ward off all capitalism at once.
      To cancel the results of privatization is the same as to shoot at the head of the USA and Europe. Unfortunately, from this shot they will not instantly die, and when leaving, they will slam the door very loudly. Only a gradual removal of them from the feeder will pass for Russia relatively painlessly.
      1. optimist
        optimist 9 January 2014 09: 08
        +5
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Only a gradual removal of them from the feeder will pass for Russia relatively painlessly.

        If in October 1917 the Bolsheviks began to "gradually squeeze out of the trough" the then existing government (completely analogous to the current one), I am afraid they would still be busy ... laughing And our current "guarantor" is an ordinary "overseer" for the inviolability of the plunder of the 90s. Therefore, all the innuendo about "gradualness" is the usual chatter "in favor of the poor." There is no other option, except for a COMPLETE CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT AND THE SOCIAL ORDER, in Russia at the moment (unfortunately).
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 09: 18
          -4
          Quote: optimist
          And our current "guarantor" is an ordinary "overseer" for the inviolability of the plunder of the 90s.


          What is the law by which privatization could be revised?
          There is none, and this bomb, or rather its absence, was laid down in the basic laws of the country signed by none other than the now deceased EBN and Co.

          Quote: optimist
          There is no other option, besides a complete change in power and social structure, in Russia at the moment (unfortunately).


          This is exactly what exists.
          Not a single revolution has benefited the country. After every revolution in the country 15-20 for years, the blood of innocent victims flowed and the state itself was in a deplorable state, both spiritual and economic. And only then, something began to move for the better.
          1. optimist
            optimist 9 January 2014 09: 46
            +7
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Not a single revolution has benefited the country.

            Controversial statement. History, as you know, does not know the subjunctive mood, but I doubt that you and I would exist now if it weren't for October 1917. Lenin's grandfather used the words "opportunist" and "compromiser" as the biggest curses. You seem to fit this definition. As for the "rivers of blood" ... Read the statistics, how many of our citizens are now dying from booze, drugs, criminality, road accidents, poor nutrition and medical care, etc. Against the background of these figures, the Bolsheviks, kids with dirty asses ... Whether we like it or not, the scenario of 100 years ago cannot be avoided: Russia will be drawn into an impending conflict anyway, and the current government will again drain the country. And there either the new Lenin will fit into the "armored car", or they will tear Russia apart into the uluses, as the West wanted 100 years ago. Now directly on this article. I respect Comrade Khazin very much and try to read his materials, but here he is clearly playing conspiracy theories. The long-awaited hodor at all crossroads repeats about the greatness of the GDP and his refusal from any political activity. Any normal person who has served a "ten" and has been pardoned by the "tsar" is ready to kiss him in the ass around the clock! laughing So there will be no "kickbacks" from the results of privatization - this is death to the current regime. At one time, the hunchback was going to arrange "socialism with a human face" for us: as a result, this "face" was cut off along with the "head" and socialism ...
            1. ddmm09
              ddmm09 9 January 2014 10: 58
              -6
              Quote: optimist
              Read the statistics, how many of our citizens are now dying from booze, drugs, crime, traffic accidents, poor nutrition and medical care, etc.

              About medical care you are bent !!! Although there are fewer doctors in the Russian Federation than during the Soviet era, the main performance indicators have not deteriorated, despite the relatively low funding. Compared with the West, our medicine is not much worse, just for objective reasons, we now can not do anything fundamentally new in this industry.
              Mortality increased in the 90s - a fact, but the reasons are purely social. In a stressful situation, not all of us are able to timely adapt to changing circumstances, to deal with the negative psychological environment that presses over our heads. In any case, in the 90s our country was weakened and any events like a revolution would only aggravate the situation, since the West would not have taken advantage of such an excuse to show aggression out of "benevolent motives." Just give them a reason for "humanitarian bombing"! .. The situation in the world is always ambiguous and our past experience cannot be applied one to one today, past experience should be taken into account, but now the enemy is different and he is using other methods against us. Moreover, these methods are more sophisticated and more effective.
              Unfortunately, at the moment, as in the days of Gorbachev-Yeltsin, we have to make a difficult choice: trust or not trust the authorities. We simply cannot control our power thoroughly, so sooner or later Judas appeared in the fate of our Motherland. The main thing, in my opinion, the current leadership of the country is to create a mechanism by which the possibility of people like Gorbachev coming to power would be ruled out.
              1. optimist
                optimist 9 January 2014 11: 10
                +7
                Quote: ddmm09
                About medical care you are bent !!!

                Well, if that were so! I recommend that you somehow visit the local district oncology dispensary and chat with people there. Somehow I did it, and to say that I oh ... l, is to say nothing !!! If in cities with population over one million people health care is relatively normal, then in the periphery (and the majority of the population lives there), it’s a complete ...
                1. ddmm09
                  ddmm09 9 January 2014 12: 33
                  +1
                  I quoted you in my comment, in fact you write in one line that poor medical care is one of the causes of high mortality in the Russian Federation. Did I understand you correctly?!. So, I work as a surgeon in a very small area of ​​the Irkutsk region. And will you tell me about the high mortality rate in our hospitals ?!
                  You indirectly indicated that poor medical care is the cause of death of citizens of our country, but in the end, give an argument about some kind of cancer dispensary ... The cause of death and the quality of service are completely different criteria. You made a false statement, and then based on your statement, you continue to reason further.
                  Our staff has decreased much since Soviet times, but the load remains the same. Does this tell you something?!. More slavish working conditions for us do not want ?????????????????
                  Maybe you should pay more attention to a healthy lifestyle?!. And then your words about medical care somehow sound naive, as if you hadn’t added soup to the plate, as in a restaurant. If a person’s health is not given or he profiled him, then what to ask from us ?! First they drink all sorts of muck, and then death comes - gastrointestinal bleeding, pancreatitis, renal vascular thrombosis, etc. Let's save! .. With any such pathology, mortality is high, regardless of where you will be treated! Smarter did not try to demand from us?!.
                  For the sake of interest, read the Russian-language forums of our fellow citizens in the West and their opinions about Western medicine. This is where the hair stands on end. All strive to spread rot on your fellow citizens, referring at the same time to the words of your neighbor: "The neighbor spoke!"
                  1. optimist
                    optimist 9 January 2014 13: 10
                    +3
                    Quote: ddmm09
                    So, I work as a surgeon

                    So they would say right away! I'm an engineer, and not dumb enough to argue with a professional. Understand correctly: I do not blame doctors at all, but I am ready to bow at their feet for their thankless and selfless labor. And the deterioration of the nation's health and high mortality rates are a consequence of the purposeful policy of the state. I agree that many themselves ruin their health. And why? But because the conscious policy of the authorities turned them into a mindless b.yddle. Speaking about the provincial oncological dispensary, I meant that many people there do not receive timely and high-quality assistance, consultations, referrals to cancer centers. For years they "chew snot" there, and then the 4th stage of cancer and the city cemetery. Among my acquaintances, there are a lot of people who "got acquainted" with this ailment. Yes, and I myself "noted": kidney cancer. If at one time he hadn't pissed and ran, hardly. whether I would argue with you now !!! what
                    1. ddmm09
                      ddmm09 9 January 2014 14: 16
                      +2
                      You yourself answered all your questions ... The doctor does not have the medicine you need in your pocket, or equipment, or tools, etc. All this is provided by the state. If an early diagnosis of the disease requires some kind of examination, but there is no appropriate equipment, then who is responsible? In the Irkutsk region, for example, a new regional cancer dispensary was not built 20 years ago.
                      In any case, the country is big, if there is no regional medicine, then for our country it will be an even greater disaster. Then early diagnosis of any pathology will be impossible, including acute. On the other hand, every medical facility cannot be staffed with professors and narrow specialists, the latest equipment cannot be supplied, so the costs of diagnostics will remain. If the doctor is reinsured and sends the patient to a distant land in the regional city (and not every resident has the means in our region for the road) and the "terrible" diagnosis is not confirmed, then the doctor runs the risk of running into claims that the patient suffered losses and in vain went to such a distance ... And so on, so on. This is briefly about the problem. Which exit?!. No one can offer anything sensible, except for phrases about the Hippocratic oath, mercy, the nobility of the profession, and so on, words that are alien to modern management.
            2. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 13: 43
              -1
              Quote: optimist
              Controversial statement. History, as you know, does not know the subjunctive mood, but I doubt that we would exist now if we hadn’t been for October 1917.


              What would happen to us if it weren’t for October 17? Would the Tsar give Russia to the British?

              So during the revolution, our country was like an open courtyard, I don’t want to go for a walk, and in Murmansk there was an English landing. Something I doubt that all this venture cost 15 years of merciless bloodshed, purges and dispossession.

              As Stolypin said, give me a calm life and you will not recognize Russia, but he was killed, although he was an honest economist and patriots.
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 9 January 2014 10: 19
        +4
        If the results are reviewed, then 90% of big business will have to be put under the knife and businesses will be put on a bunk, for such a radical solution, huge political will is needed, and foreign capital will flee from Russia in an instant. You need to squeeze them from the feeder directly to the wall.
        1. optimist
          optimist 9 January 2014 10: 22
          +7
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          You need to squeeze them from the feeder directly to the wall.

          That's exactly what I mean. Judging by the number of "minuses" - today at the forum the "six" of Abramovichs, Deripasoks and Vekselbergs have become more active, - they are protecting the master's loot !!! laughing
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 13: 40
            0
            Quote: optimist
            That's exactly what I mean. Judging by the number of "minuses" - today the "six" of Abramovichs, Deripasoks and Vekselbergs have become more active at the forum, - they are protecting the master's loot !!


            Principle select and share far from always true, albeit intriguing.

            Here at 90 there was a bacchanalia in the field of legitimate business, now the situation at 180 degrees is different, although there are also some mistakes.
    3. Astronomer
      Astronomer 9 January 2014 08: 37
      +3
      Well, at the expense of Ford, let me disagree ... It's there, and we're not talking about that.
      But the revision of the results of privatization in Russia is fraught with the beginning of similar processes in the Central Asian republics, which will lead to the emergence of instability along the southern borders of the Russian Federation. Do you need it? The local leaders are already asleep "with a revolver under the pillow and a saber at the head" and really hope that no one will remember the USSR Constitution. And here is an example. Come on, the revision of the results of privatization in Russia will drag another round of instability in the entire space of the unjustly torn Union, and this is, first of all, blood.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 9 January 2014 09: 58
        +7
        Quote: Astronom
        here is an example. Come on, revising the results of privatization in Russia will drag another round of instability across the entire space of the unjustly torn Union, and this, first of all, is blood.

        - there is a common grain in your words, but a revision of privatization is necessary for anyone, you cannot leave in the hands of the occupiers (ironically, the "occupants" are their own disapora in Russia, warmed and respected by both tsarist Russia and Soviet Russia - such a snake, warmed in his bosom for destruction) the national wealth of Russia! Therefore, the task is not easy - to slip into the eye of a camel, and revise privatization, and prevent destabilization ...
        If you are considering Kazakhstan, we will have a review for anyone, for the President of Kazakhstan is very old, and many influential comrades who are not members of the President’s family do not agree with the results of privatization, in which almost all Kazakhstan’s wealth went to members of the same family. So there will be a review in Russia, it won’t be - in Kazakhstan there will be a review for anyone, the only question is how acute the review will take. I hope for extremely soft and legitimate forms. You do not know.
        1. dmb
          dmb 9 January 2014 14: 39
          +3
          Everyone wants a "legitimate" form. And it is really possible, but only for the redistribution of property between groups replacing each other in power. Those who come to power, taking property from the previous rulers, will write new laws, remind the old how they grabbed their property, etc. An example, the same Khodorkovsky. But this will have nothing to do with the well-being of the bulk of the population, for any capitalist will rob him; Soviet it spill or, listed among the "lifting the country from its knees." One can fire up the Soviet power three times, but an honest person cannot assert that the present one is more popular. The chance of a peaceful return to Soviet power was in 1996. The Communist Party had not yet completely degenerated (unlike its elite), the army had not yet collapsed, and the people who had already experienced "capitalist happiness" were waiting for decisive action. Now, to all those who naively believe that after the Olympics, World Championships, summit, conference (there is a wide choice) Vova will kick Yakunin, Usmanov and Shuvalov and begin to do good to ordinary fellow citizens, I can safely say: "You are being fooled," because you did not put it on and the aforementioned fellow citizens, and he will listen to them. And they will not give their loot without strength to anyone and never.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 9 January 2014 11: 06
        +3
        There will be no revision of privatization. Will be nationalization. All resource mining and natural monopolies will belong to the state.
        1. alone
          alone 9 January 2014 18: 53
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          There will be no revision of privatization. There will be nationalization. All resource mining and natural monopolies will belong to the state.

          laughing laughing What is nationalization? Do you think it’s so easy to nationalize what belongs to yourself?

          Dad, will there be nationalization?
          - No, son! it's fantastic!!
    4. mirag2
      mirag2 9 January 2014 23: 55
      0
      This is to ensure that those who now own privatized enterprises do not twitch now, like an agreement with businessmen at the beginning of Putin’s reign.
  3. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 9 January 2014 07: 51
    +5
    Hmm. The hat is on the thief!
    The liberals have created a system of corruption in the country, and they themselves most of all shout that Putin is to blame.
    And our far-sighted (or distant) all-crawlers are happy to support them.
  4. Rash
    Rash 9 January 2014 08: 01
    +5
    Quote: demotivator
    It is in the USA that Henry Ford made his fortune with his mind and painstaking labor.

    Yes, and Ford once said that he could report for every one million, except the first. What can we say about ours!
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 9 January 2014 09: 22
      +1
      Quote: Rash
      Yes, and Ford once said that he could report for every one million, except the first. What can we say about ours!


      About the same, for that million was equal to several tens of billions.

      All crooks start equally muddy, and then become ideals and role models, like Ford or the same Hodor, whose liberation was sought by all anti-corruption fighters and all those who shouted about criminal privatization, as their minds weren’t clouded by such contradictions in logic and common sense.
  5. morpogr
    morpogr 9 January 2014 08: 05
    +2
    The fact that all the privatization of that time, theft in Russia is known to everyone and in the West too, and they write about our oligarchs that their capital is of dubious origin from the Yeltsin era. But as soon as another thief comes into the view of investigators, a howl of liberals and Western and corrupt media begins that regime spread rot not a thief, but a prisoner of conscience and a democrat. Examples are the Gusinsky darkness, Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Borodin which the Bank of Moscow cleared, etc.
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 9 January 2014 08: 07
    +7
    It turns out that in behind-the-scenes games there are puppeteers and there are puppets. those. The West a priori pulls the strings all over the world. Maybe in relation to some Africa, I would still believe. But they are trying to convince me that Russia is the same puppet in someone's merrymaking. Okay, the Hunger Games of the 90s, when, with general collapse and degradation, what they wanted was done ... But guys, admit today that you are completely hooked .... request
    "Liberal" capitalism has never been on the side of the people and the state. And as long as there are oligarchs and the model of the economy associated with them, I have to believe that Russia is the very essence of MA-RIO-NET-KA. The initial steps of individuals to improve the situation are commendable, it is so ... They are easily lost against the background of population loss, degradation of education and medicine, and the ongoing withdrawal of capital abroad. And all attempts to raise the image are easily broken by the real state of affairs.
    ONLY NATIONALIZATION WITH REMOVAL OF "LIBERASTS" FROM THE POWER, REVISION OF THE ECONOMIC AND IDEOLOGY MODEL will be able to change anything.
    And so the nuclear submarine will continue to build for 15 years, the words about prosperity will actually mean the impoverishment of the people. And the answer to some Western mongrel will look like "turn off the gas", and not in any other way. To be strong, you have to be strong, and not seem to them on command from behind the curtains ...
    This is just my opinion.
    1. vasiliysxx
      vasiliysxx 9 January 2014 14: 30
      +1
      And today he desperately needs a strong Russia, which could be a geopolitical counterweight to China

      Also a question for the author, it turns out that Russia is becoming a great state, again at the command of the West? Are we without brains? The yankers just overtook and now hemorrhoids are creeping up to them. good
  7. ICT
    ICT 9 January 2014 08: 12
    +7
    We were all thieves

    I personally have always been interested in this question, why claims arose only to Yukos, and
    LET LUKOIL CLEAN (knowing how business is conducted at the level of small enterprises ( everybody avoids taxes the same ), I can fully assume that in large business Lukoil also ratted out of the budget as did Yukos)
    that is, Hodor served time for the fact that the GDP experienced for him
    [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5q1342IY0o [/ img]
  8. makarov
    makarov 9 January 2014 08: 13
    +2
    "... is the only person who can publicly say:" We were all thieves, and everyone knew that! Yes, we acted within the framework of a general consensus, yes, when YUKOS came into being, I was already a decent entrepreneur, etc., etc., but the privatization process was total theft and corruption! "

    PLEASE EXPLAIN the entire list of fakes !!! am
  9. valokordin
    valokordin 9 January 2014 08: 19
    +4
    Even there are no words about the article; they steal worse than criminals. Gopniks are angels in comparison with them, and to punish them is not 37 years old. When it comes for them, I would like to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution and the 80th anniversary of these same 37 years.
  10. pensioner
    pensioner 9 January 2014 08: 31
    +5
    Organizers of contract killings must sit for life. I consider pardoning such criminals a mockery of both justice and the relatives of those killed.
  11. Same lech
    Same lech 9 January 2014 08: 38
    +10
    In general, laughter and sin - amnesty for a rogue Khodorkovsky and further prison for KVACHKOV - what a significant contrast to this very amnesty (freedom for a rogue and a prison for an honest man)
  12. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 08: 44
    +4
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    Disposing of money will not bring anything good, on the contrary, there will be another rollback to 10-15 years ago in development, and legal (legal) methods are not the fact that they exist.

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    We are not talking about "dispossession" in a primitive form ... It is necessary to knock out the "legitimate" base from under the unjustly acquired fortunes received on the hapka of state assets of the former USSR, large system assets, mainly energy, mining and processing of minerals, partly transport, enterprises of the military-industrial complex ... Recognize the practice of loans-for-shares auctions and the GKO pyramid as illegal ... A rollback of 10-15 years ago has already taken place de facto, this can be seen from the rate of our growth (we write small inflation = we get more GDP and by such manipulations with figures we rub glasses people) ...
  13. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 08: 59
    +3
    I didn't understand the Khazin article a little, he somehow miraculously crossed the accents ... In a rough approximation, I think that while the confrontation between the comprador bourgeoisie and the "nationally oriented" one is going on, and none of the parties has a particular advantage ... Compradors are actively supported by the West, which forms them a positive image and all-round support, plus they are very strong in the financial block, from which it is almost impossible to knock them out, the industrial and mining sectors were surrendered by them for a number of reasons, mainly because of the incompetence and blows of "Putin's people", so to speak .. Khodorkovsky actually took on the role of Luzhkov, and left for about the same places, Luzhkov-Austria, Khodor-Switzerland, and vowed to speak, you say less, fewer claims, so he is not particularly on his way with the opposition, it is easier to be shot down by a pilot with money ... Therefore, Khodor speaks mostly in vague phrases and even began to say quasi-patriotic things (Russia is a communal country, Russia is close to communism, etc.) So I have some kind of taco e impression ...
  14. calocha
    calocha 9 January 2014 09: 02
    +5
    All the big ones get messy in this shit the same way. Khodorkovsky lifted his nose higher than it should be, so they clicked on the nose showing him his place. The dude got carried away, he wanted absolute POWER. WITHOUT BIG CLEANING our thieving elite should not be besieged. We need the WILL of the first person in the country. And the first one says, we are not 37 !!! ) OUR IN THE CIRCUS are NOT SMEUTSTSA !!! Oil painting - "nailed slippers to the cliff"!
  15. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 09: 06
    +3
    Quote: TIT
    I can one hundred percent assume that in large business Lukoil also ratted off the budget as did Yukos)

    ---------------------------
    Yes, you don’t have to assume anything special ... You just need to find out where the company is registered, if offshore, then this is tax minimization ... Moreover, you need to look at the entire state of the assets by time, and not where they are at the moment ... Second, how acquired initial assets? Mortgage auction - theft of the former social property ... In general, if you conduct a deep audit, everyone’s snout to the bottom ... You can certainly introduce positive criteria, how the company’s capitalization increased, how many new capacities were built and high-paying jobs were created, well, like that ...
  16. jjj
    jjj 9 January 2014 09: 29
    -2
    I believe that privatizing thieves in reality turned out to be more useful for the restoration of the country, understanding all the costs, etc. etc., than the leaders of the communist wing. There was essentially no way out: either the complete collapse of Russia after the USSR, or the surrender of the country to a group of "respected persons" for feeding. But let us note that gradually a group of these persons was either expelled, or repressed, or took up the service of the state. In any case, no matter how cynical it may sound, a thief-businessman is still more useful for Russia than a corrupt official. Of course, I would like to immediately complete honesty in all strata of society. But this is still a utopia, and the country needs to live here and now. However, we know that there are times when stones are scattered and when they are collected
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 9 January 2014 11: 02
      +4
      Quote: jjj
      I believe that privatization thieves in reality turned out to be more useful for rebuilding the country

      Do you think that the country is being restored or is being restored?
      Quote: jjj
      than communist leaders.

      Gorbach and EBN?
      a group of these persons was either deported, or repressed, or stood in the service of the state.

      Hodor was repressed, some who fell over a hill, not with empty hands and not on a bump. The rest are quite healthy and sometimes serve the state only for a considerable share, not so small that it seems that the state serves them.
      Quote: jjj
      that there are times when stones are scattered and when they are collected

      It is unlikely that it will come to collecting if the activity of a thief is considered a blessing, even taking into account the historical moment.
      1. jjj
        jjj 9 January 2014 23: 17
        0
        The apparatus of the Communist Party, both before and now, were the main corrupt officials. Former communists scattered across all parties. And modern corruption ties came to us from historical times and grew up on "party money".
        Communism as an ideology was imposed on us by the West. This is the first wave to destroy Russia. And only the Stalinists were able to reverse the situation and, leaving the name with a bright image of Lenin’s grandfather, actually build a society on completely different principles. But with the deeds of the very corrupt party apparatus, everything built and was destroyed.
        Another wave is modern liberalism with "universal human values". All these liberals are flesh of flesh and blood of the blood of communist Leninists. The third wave is sects, including the growing neo-pagans. Powder the brains of the man in the street again with the promises of a "bright tomorrow", they also act in the interests of the destruction of Russia. In reality, the picture is even more colorful.
        There can be no simple unpretentious decisions to save the country. Compromises can be unpleasant, and the way of life itself can be resentful. But we must still try to understand the obvious thing, if the country had not been "given up for plunder", then it would not have existed
  17. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 9 January 2014 09: 53
    -1
    from the Don.
    The West relies on Hodor by inertia. Do not bet on these pussies. And Hodors will still be courted. All the same, there were concrete problems with GDP!
  18. TAA
    TAA 9 January 2014 09: 56
    +2
    Interesting analytical essay. belay Khazin and Khodorkovsky are both children of their time. And both were born with silver spoons to the wort. And now, Khazin can make a witness in The Hague. or some other London. At the same time, one worked in a bank and raised a second bank. Only one Khazin was being prepared for the career of a state property manager, and Khodor decided to follow the path of the Oligarch. Evidently Misha knows a lot of things about another Toptygin. crying Who ate from my cup? Who drank from my mug? And who was sleeping on my crib? In fact, both had a snout in honey, am state.
  19. umah
    umah 9 January 2014 09: 58
    +4
    Khazin says: a bad and good liberal, but one hears: a bad and good cannibal (or a killer, or figure out what to set up yourself). The very essence of the liberal idea lies in the prosperity of some at the expense of others. Good or bad bearer of the idea - it does not matter, it is important that the idea itself is vicious!
  20. TAA
    TAA 9 January 2014 09: 59
    0
    Quote: Altona
    Yes, you don’t have to assume anything special ... You just need to find out where the company is registered, if offshore, then this is tax minimization ... Moreover, you need to look at the entire state of the assets by time, and not where they are at the moment ... Second, how acquired initial assets? Mortgage auction - theft of the former social property ... In general, if you conduct a deep audit, everyone’s snout to the bottom ... You can certainly introduce positive criteria, how the company’s capitalization increased, how many new capacities were built and high-paying jobs were created, well, like that ...

    And then what? We will all joyfully roll like butter in Koloboks until the US fox sister sits down. Or does the Chinese Panda put a paw? fellow
  21. TAA
    TAA 9 January 2014 10: 10
    +2
    Mikhail Khazin is the only person who can publicly say: “We were all thieves”
    fool So it will be fair. Your sins are grave.

    Now, of course, you are denying everything and posing as a defender of the fatherland and a true liberal of the Yeltsin era. I wonder how you managed to get into the camp of the rotten Nabiulins and Chubaiso-Gaidarov. And for many years you have been our Stirlitz, worked tirelessly and harmed. Many projects disastrous for the homeland could be destroyed. You need to erect a monument by the wailing wall in your promised land. A fighter with a lie. soldier
  22. TAA
    TAA 9 January 2014 10: 24
    +3
    Quote: umah
    Khazin says: a bad and good liberal,
    Pharisee.
    Quote: umah
    bad and good cannibal (or killer, or figure out what to set up yourself).
    Book liberals, cannibals, etc. - you can invent a "demon" of the end
    Quote: umah
    The very essence of the liberal idea lies in the prosperity of some at the expense of others. Good or bad bearer of the idea - it does not matter, it is important that the idea itself is vicious!
    Are you trying to explain to Khazin as a "true" bearer of liberal values ​​about the cannibalistic essence of liberalism? He even vryatli can understand you. It's like making a carrot eat a carrot. lol After two decades of destroying the country and its inhabitants, under the sweet speeches of a future paradise, free life (Khazin from the stock holder and the real bureaucrat of the third class) who built this criminal system from the beginning of the 90s, crying on the genocide of Soviet people.
  23. TAA
    TAA 9 January 2014 10: 31
    0
    Quote: Altona
    I did not understand the Khazin article a little, he somehow wonderfully crossed accents ...
    Khazin - according to Freud - unwinds himself. He fellow partners in those days. Hodor was put on the leadership of the same security forces. And he tried to throw them. Through the USA. A sort of agent Azef. Well, Putin indicated a place for him — well at the locker — and could even drive them to the locker. But Putin does not give up. And now thrown to the German comrade drinks м.
    1. vasiliysxx
      vasiliysxx 9 January 2014 14: 42
      +2
      Quote: TAA
      But Putin does not give up. And now thrown to the German comrade drinks м.


      Wow your belay ten ottarabanil laughing
  24. andrejwz
    andrejwz 9 January 2014 11: 09
    0
    The main task of the West in the second half of the twentieth century was the destruction of the USSR / Russia.
    But in the first half of the XX century, for the west, this problem did not stand?
    I understand that peeping on topical topics, taking into account the current situation, for the author is just earnings and hardly a personal conviction. But if you earn by "word", then follow the "bazaar".
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 9 January 2014 12: 07
      +1
      Well, if you go deeper, then on "VO" long ago they came to the conclusion that the conversation is about all this millennium.
    2. 1goose3
      1goose3 9 January 2014 12: 44
      0
      The main task of the West in the second half of the twentieth century was the destruction of the USSR / Russia.
      But in the first half of the XX century, for the west, this problem did not stand?
      I understand that peeping on topical topics, taking into account the current situation, for the author is just earnings and hardly a personal conviction. But if you earn by "word", then follow the "bazaar".

      Right! Actually ! The bazaar needs to be filtered!
      Is the concept of the west of the first half of the 20th century and the west of the second half the same? And why not drag here the 18th and 19th centuries, at least.
      So you, dear Andrey, are wrong. hi
  25. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 12: 50
    0
    Quote: TAA
    And then what? We will all joyfully roll like butter in Koloboks until the US fox sister sits down. Or does the Chinese Panda put a paw?

    ---------------------------------
    And why not then? If you determine the priority tasks of the country's development in terms of the development of regions and key industries, then you can also choose the form of ownership, especially if you attract specialists, rather than by the finance of the taxi managers, because the money, that is, only put it in a small pillow, or take it over a hill ... the United States will not eat us, not a bit by the teeth ... A Chinese panda also has scales on its face ... For some reason, money used to be enough for the entire Union and CMEA before, and now the release of 30 fighters for the Air Force’s relatives is an event ... Of course, something is being done in the country, but it is being done in a non-systemic way ... The rest of the property is being sold under the guise of the second or third stage of privatization without explanation, the regions are brewing in their own juice without money ... Moscow is filled with various rabble, which was previously slowed down by 100 km and compared to which the soviet limiters-angels of heaven ...
  26. ochakow703
    ochakow703 9 January 2014 14: 36
    +2
    That's it, the last episode with the privatization of Vnukovo ... than not an indicator of an advanced disease. Aifonchik so easily manages public property, as if all this was created with his sweat and blood. And with Moscow in general a mess, just some kind of viper! I think that while all the money is spinning there, there will be no development and prosperity in the country. Is it strange how does money for gas produced in Tyumen turn in Moscow?
  27. Begemot
    Begemot 9 January 2014 14: 58
    +1
    Khodorkovsky's pardon is most likely the result of a deal with the West, it is not yet clear what. He himself is unlikely to engage in politics, unless the "intercessors" from the West ask him very much, and even how he can do something as a destroyer, but it is unlikely to create, for creation it is necessary to lead a lot of people who are really engaged in the creation of material and spiritual values, and they are unlikely to follow the former disgraced oligarch.
  28. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 9 January 2014 15: 35
    -1
    That is, to demand the coming to power of forces of obviously patriotic, openly hostile to the current pro-Western corrupt Russian elite and with extreme suspicion regarding the liberal West in general

    This citizen Khazin hints at himself, that fits the description.
    A strong Russia in alliance with a strong China is a thin world that is better than a good quarrel, an analogue of a hypothetical alliance with Germany in Europe. A strong Russia under the leadership of the West in an alliance against China is an analogue of the Entente, a war, and Russia will be cannon fodder in it. Judging by the history, no one will share the fruits of victory with Russia, and vice versa, taking advantage of its weakening, Russia will once again begin to divide.
  29. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2014 15: 36
    0
    Quote: Begemot
    The Khodorkovsky pardon is most likely the result of a deal with the West, so far it is not clear which one.

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    The White Leader should close his eyes to some of the affairs of the Red Leader ... Something apparently is supposed to be ...