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As private Ishchenko stabbed seven Germans with a bayonet

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As private Ishchenko stabbed seven Germans with a bayonetIt happened on January 5, 1944, on the first day of the Kirovograd operation. Private Ivan Ischenko was sent as part of a tank assault force to liberate the village of Kazarka.


Ivan Ilyich Ischenko was a native of almost the same places - he was born in the village of Vershino-Kamenka, now Novgorodsky District, Kirovograd Region. His native village was liberated only a few months before the events described, and Ivan's 18-year-old was immediately included in the 294 Guards Rifle Regiment.

Early in the morning, a tank with armored paratroopers burst into the village. The entire rifle squad had already jumped, and began to advance towards the village on foot, but the young soldier decided to get to tank to the Germans themselves. Soon German trenches appeared. The tank moved the trench, and our hero jumped right into the trench. Immediately he came across an officer. Pulling a Walter from its holster, he shot at our soldier, but missed from a three-meter distance. The bullet only scratched the butt of the rifle.

The Ischenko's rifle shop was empty - he had shot all five cartridges while moving on the tank’s armor, and he didn’t have time to insert the next clip. There was only one way: to act with a bayonet. In the bayonet class, the young fighter was taught to pierce the enemy only a couple of inches, but this was his first bayonet battle, and he drove the bayonet into the German to the very trunk, after which, in order to remove the body of the killed officer from the bayonet, he had to tinker. When the bayonet was free, three more Germans gathered at the scene, waiting for their turn. The trench's message flow was small, and the Germans could approach Ischenko only one at a time. It is not known why none of them tried to shoot, without fail trying to stab our fighter with bayonets of their fighters.

The feat of Ivan Ischenko tried to portray the post-war artist, but he did not take into account that the event happened on January 5


However, our bayonet was elementarily longer, and our fighter managed to prick before the German could reach him. Ishchenko was surprised when he realized that the Germans were falling dead even before the bayonet had been stuck in them, and when four more frites were replaced by four more, he decided to try simply to touch one of them with the bayonet. The German began to fall silently forward, and with its weight ran into a bayonet already dead. Pulling the rifle away from the falling German, Ischenko immediately stumbled with the bayonet of the following. It is not known how many more Germans would have stabbed our fighter with a bayonet, but then his fellow soldiers, who finally reached the trench, jumped into the trench, and the battle stopped in a few seconds. During the attack, none of our fighters died - all the Germans were busy not shooting at the attackers, but trying to stab Ischenko alone.
By order of the 97 Guards Rifle Division (No.58 / n) of 19 January 1944 of the Guard, the Red Army man Ischenko Ivan Ilyich was awarded the Order of Glory of the 3 degree. It was not the last award of Ivan Ischenko. After this incident, he was transferred to regimental intelligence, and by the end of the war he became a full gentleman of the Order of Glory.


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  1. Petr1
    Petr1 6 January 2014 10: 28
    +27
    Glory to the heroes!
  2. adler
    adler 6 January 2014 10: 59
    +33
    Create a separate column of Heroes of the Fatherland !!!
    1. erased
      erased 6 January 2014 14: 03
      +26
      Per! Only the rubric will be long, we have a lot of heroes - both warriors and workers and mothers-heroines who raised new warriors. But it is better to let them write, talk and make films about them than about the "stars" of the gay show business and other liberalists.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 6 January 2014 17: 29
        +5
        But good.
    2. StolzSS
      StolzSS 7 January 2014 20: 22
      +5
      I approve this thought !!! soldier
  3. vladstro
    vladstro 6 January 2014 11: 11
    +24
    . It is unknown why none of them tried to shoot, without fail trying to stab our fighter with bayonets of their carbines. We decided to earn ourselves an iron cross and earned a wooden one.
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 6 January 2014 15: 51
      +22
      My grandfather told me that in moments of battle, almost inexplicable things happen to people. In the midst of melee, it was enough to just prick the enemy with a bayonet so that he would lose his composure and mind.
      1. Sakmagon
        Sakmagon 6 January 2014 20: 48
        +18
        grandfather told that practically unexplained things happen in moments of battle

        So, my grandfather lived up to the Victory! WELL DONE!
        The enemy was scary!
        With fear, you can kill an enemy with a firearm, in melee - only knowing what you are doing!

        "The German was strong and agile,
        Well cut, stitched.
        He stood like a horseshoe -
        Don't scare - WILL NOT RUN! "
        . A. Twardowski
      2. xan
        xan 7 January 2014 01: 36
        +6
        Quote: 77bob1973
        My grandfather told me that in moments of battle, almost inexplicable things happen to people. In the midst of melee, it was enough to just prick the enemy with a bayonet so that he would lose his composure and mind.

        I read somewhere that the American officers of the North-against-South war noticed that some soldiers, and often recruits, in the muzzle-loading rifles after the battle had several loaded and never fired bullets. The understanding came that the soldier needed psychological readiness for the possibility of death and murder, as well as adequacy during serious psychological overloads. Well, if shooting can still be taught, then bayonet fighting definitely needs mental preparation.
      3. xan
        xan 7 January 2014 01: 36
        0
        Quote: 77bob1973
        My grandfather told me that in moments of battle, almost inexplicable things happen to people. In the midst of melee, it was enough to just prick the enemy with a bayonet so that he would lose his composure and mind.

        I read somewhere that the American officers of the North-against-South war noticed that some soldiers, and often recruits, in the muzzle-loading rifles after the battle had several loaded and never fired bullets. The understanding came that the soldier needed psychological readiness for the possibility of death and murder, as well as adequacy during serious psychological overloads. Well, if shooting can still be taught, then bayonet fighting definitely needs mental preparation.
  4. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 6 January 2014 11: 49
    +12
    How many of these previously unknown feats did our soldiers accomplish during the entire time of World War II?
  5. svp67
    svp67 6 January 2014 11: 52
    +9
    Russian "boa constrictor" against German "rabbits" ... What do you say YOUNG MAN "+"
    1. does it
      does it 8 January 2014 19: 32
      +8
      Quote: svp67
      Russian "boa constrictor" against German "rabbits" ... What do you say YOUNG MAN "+"

      don’t belittle the German army! by doing this you belittle our Holy Victory over the Third Reich,our grandfathers fought with a smart, insidious, ruthless powerful enemy.
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 January 2014 19: 42
        +1
        Quote: kvirit
        Do not belittle the German army! By this you belittle our Holy Victory over the Third Reich, our grandfathers fought against a clever, insidious and powerful opponent.
        Where do you see humiliation? The fact that our fighter managed to suppress the will of the enemy soldiers, really acted "like a boa constrictor", hypnotized the German soldiers so much that they, forgetting that they were able to shoot him with their personal weapons, walked like "rabbits" on his bayonet and fell dead even before he touched them, from a ruptured heart, well, definitely "rabbits" ... Here, in addition to luck, there is something that is far from accessible to many, but our fighter possessed it ... There will be time to read about bersers , about American Indians and their capabilities, but they stimulated themselves, but here ... Apparently this soldier had one of his relatives from the "characterists" ...
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 9 January 2014 05: 25
          0
          Quote: svp67
          walked like "rabbits" on his bayonet and fell dead even before he touched them, from a broken heart

          Here, of course, it is not "death from a broken heart" that is described, but a statement of the euphoric effect of a young fighter, who suddenly found out that to defeat the enemy it is enough to "just try to touch one of them with a bayonet."))
  6. makarov
    makarov 6 January 2014 11: 59
    +8
    Private Ivan Ilchenko was sent as part of a tank landing to liberate the village of Kazarka.
    Ivan Ilyich Ishchenko was a native of almost the same places

    Uv. author. You need to be more careful in writing .... I think there were a lot of such heroes and others like him, only "papers" and ideas about rewarding for some reason in the headquarters were "lost" ... I personally know a similar episode from the lips of a participant, but nowhere else he was not described
    1. Sibiriya
      7 January 2014 00: 35
      +1
      Ivan Ilyich Ishchenko was a native of almost the same places - he was born in the village of Vershino-Kamenka, now the Novgorod district of the Kirovograd region. His native village was liberated only a few months before the events described, and the 18-year-old Ivan was immediately included in the 294-th Guards Rifle Regiment.
  7. Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 6 January 2014 12: 00
    +16
    A resourceful soldier, he was correctly transferred to regimental intelligence. Glory to the Russian soldier.
  8. alexey.sh
    alexey.sh 6 January 2014 12: 14
    +10
    and the guy was only 18 years old. Heroic generation
  9. lukke
    lukke 6 January 2014 12: 27
    +11
    It is unknown why none of them tried to shoot, without fail trying to stab our fighter with bayonets of their carbines.

    Yes, probably for the same reason as that of our fighter - they shot cartridges in chains ...
  10. Same lech
    Same lech 6 January 2014 12: 30
    +12
    If we could take a spectacular film out of this with SPECIAL EFFECTS (without any tolerance), there would be a cool film. (And at the same time with any GOZMAN, I would have wiped it off)
  11. BOB48
    BOB48 6 January 2014 13: 34
    +4
    Yes - there were people in our time - THE BOGATYRY !!!!
  12. konvalval
    konvalval 6 January 2014 15: 05
    +9
    It was not for nothing that Suvorov taught: "A bullet is a fool, a bayonet is great."
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 6 January 2014 17: 28
      +1
      If you recall the Lefty ...
  13. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 January 2014 15: 09
    +17
    I don’t remember where I read and I don’t remember who spoke, but the essence of the matter is that in a bayonet battle, nervous tension kills at the mere thought of a missed strike. Even before the hit. And ours still managed to reflect and experiment. Not nerves, but ropes, however.
  14. creak
    creak 6 January 2014 15: 24
    +3
    How to understand the phrase, the Germans fall dead even before the bayonet is thrust into them?
    So what did the Germans die from all the same, if the bayonet was not thrust into them? Something is not very clear, just touched the bayonet and the German fell forward already dead ?! What then, in the author’s opinion, was the cause of death if the bayonet did not pierce and there was no shooting ...
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 6 January 2014 15: 53
      +7
      An autopsy would show-perfectly healthy.
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 6 January 2014 16: 15
      +10
      Quote: ranger
      How do you understand the phrase, the Germans fall dead even before the bayonet is thrust into them? So what did the Germans die from all the same, if the bayonet was not thrust into them? Something is not very clear, just touched the bayonet and the German fell forward already dead ?! What then, in the author’s opinion, was the cause of death if the bayonet did not pierce and there was no shooting ...

      - there can be a lot of everything. Maybe it seemed to the fighter in the heat of battle that he was only touching with a bayonet, but in fact he pierced exactly as much as needed. Maybe I ate some mushrooms before the fight - there are such mushrooms. There has recently been a case in Russia - one nerd guy, frail, with glasses, but addicted to Tolkien, somehow walked with a wooden sword to a party of Tolkienists. I saw an appetizing-looking mushroom, slightly bit it, I didn’t like it - I went on. And then towards - pitching from local gopniks, they decided to get to the bottom of his face, five of them were. And the nerd-tolkienist sent all five to the hospital. And he also thought that he only slightly touched his enemies with a wooden sword, as they fell in a deep knockout. And all five, as it seemed to him, were moving slowly, and asm - he was moving normally.
      Maybe the Germans have the effect of auto-suggestion - the first fell dead from touching the bayonet, the second, already inspired, will die from the same. The Indians whom the shaman curses - that Indian dies. The eyes are glass, lying and dying without visible physical causes and injuries, just dying within a few hours - such is the power of suggestion!
      In general, much can be speculated on this topic. Not in this case. But the fact is that the feat of Soviet soldiers is GLORY!
      1. creak
        creak 6 January 2014 16: 45
        +16
        This is not about a feat in general - to me as a person who served in the armed forces, etc. in a hot spot it’s clear that the author simply doesn’t imagine what he is writing, if you carefully read the text ... Three Germans were waiting in line - after such pearls I don’t want to comment ... It seems that for the author the war is nothing more than a computer shooter (where you kill one, while others wait) and you have several lives, but my father, who went through the entire war from an ordinary to a captain and his fellow soldiers, for some reason came across completely different Germans ... The idea of ​​the article is good, but the execution is mediocre, which is not elevates, but belittles our Victory, which has come to us at a high price ...
        1. Sibiriya
          7 January 2014 00: 38
          +3
          You will not have to wait in the trench together ...
        2. does it
          does it 8 January 2014 19: 23
          0
          Quote: ranger
          Three Germans were waiting in line - after such pearls, I don’t want to comment ...

          and how a military officer could miss from three meters, his cartridge was jammed. The characteristics of the Walther pistol, please.
          1. Sibiriya
            8 January 2014 22: 40
            0
            in a state of passion is not what happens in battle
          2. Vidok
            Vidok 11 January 2014 12: 08
            0
            The bullet hit, but in the butt. And in the heat of battle you can not get into yourself.
        3. Vidok
          Vidok 11 January 2014 12: 03
          0
          Don't be a prude. The author wanted to add a little humor to make it colorful. The trench is narrow and therefore the Germans practically "stood, roughly speaking, in line." And the fighter, for sure, then after the battle, turned inside out and dreamed of all sorts of nonsense. Killing your own kind, especially in hand-to-hand combat, if you are not a psychopath, is an unpleasant thing.
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      3. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 6 January 2014 17: 26
        0
        Mushrooms ... ha, you have not tried Skume yet!
      4. bya965
        bya965 6 January 2014 22: 04
        +25
        This is the story of the veteran about the bayonet battle.
        1. xan
          xan 7 January 2014 01: 56
          +7
          Quote: bya965
          This is the story of the veteran about the bayonet battle.

          "Whoever has been in hand-to-hand combat at least once will remember her for life."
          The lucky soldier, he survived in the first hand-to-hand combat. And then he is already an experienced fighter.
          The soldier is cool, don’t go to the grandmother. Dad spoke about uncles and their friends who came from the war. After the victory they came hot and nutty, it cost nothing to fight and grab the knives. The resettled Chechens and Ingush (Dad was born in Kazakhstan) did not go to city dances and tried not to show on the streets. It takes a peaceful life to somehow balance the psyche.
          But there were also Suvorov soldiers, and they practically only fought with bayonets. It is clear that the time is different, closer to the animal nature, but still, it is not noticeable for the psyche this does not pass.
    3. projdoha
      projdoha 6 January 2014 17: 23
      +1
      read how to remove the sentry without weapons.
    4. CTEPX
      CTEPX 9 January 2014 05: 46
      0
      Quote: ranger
      if the bayonet did not stick into them? Something is not very clear, just touched the bayonet and the German fell forward already dead ?!

      Elementary)). Touching with a bayonet - 5-7 cm, sticking - from 45 to 70 cm, depending on the type of bayonet)).
    5. GEORGY RUSSIAN
      GEORGY RUSSIAN 11 January 2014 10: 01
      +1
      I have a bayonet from a Finnish rifle in my hand now, you can’t imagine what a dangerous weapon it is, this bayonet is just terribly well adapted for killing a person. The shape of the blade is such that it enters without feeling any resistance whatsoever, and if you drive it hard, the knife will get stuck in This is an illusion that you hardly touch it, it is created due to the fact that it’s hard to break through a person in clothes, especially in an overcoat. It’s stupid, with such a shape of a blade and sharpening, it will go in very easily and you don’t have to make big efforts. And its length will allow put on, like a skewer, even two people.
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 11 January 2014 10: 10
        0
        Quote: GEORGE RUSSIAN
        I have a bayonet from a Finnish rifle in my hand now, you can’t imagine what a dangerous weapon it is, this bayonet is just terribly well adapted for killing a person
        George confirm I found the bayonet, so the blade is long 52cm without a guard, its shape is four-sided needle-shaped. So it is possible through two. Here's a photo
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 11 January 2014 10: 12
          0
          here after cleaning
    6. Vidok
      Vidok 11 January 2014 11: 54
      0
      Our tetrahedral bayonet enters the body like an awl in oil, it comes out a little tighter, because sometimes it wedges in the settled body between the ribs and muscles. Therefore, in the heat of battle, apparently, the fighter seemed that he almost did not touch the enemy.
  15. Viktor11111
    Viktor11111 6 January 2014 15: 53
    +1
    Why they didn’t shoot, it’s understandable. It was winter. And the Nazis were just drunk.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 6 January 2014 17: 23
      +2
      And maybe the carbines froze, in the Finnish it was.
  16. projdoha
    projdoha 6 January 2014 17: 21
    +4
    Not surprisingly, he was transferred to regimental intelligence. The ability to defuse the enemy not with weapons, but with intent is especially appreciated in the GRU. A lot of front-line intelligence agents after the war became the backbone of this service.
  17. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 6 January 2014 17: 23
    0
    Pulling Walter out of his holster, he shot at our soldier, but missed from a three-meter distance.

    I probably learned to shoot from Kirzhakov laughing
    The course of the trench was tight, and the Germans could approach Ishchenko only one at a time. It is unknown why none of them tried to shoot, without fail trying to stab our fighter with bayonets of their carbines.

    Well, just like at Thermopylae. Perhaps the Germans also shot back by then.
    The soldier was really cool, in the first battle he did such deeds
    1. Sibiriya
      8 January 2014 22: 42
      0
      in the first battle, many do not shoot even once.
  18. Zymran
    Zymran 6 January 2014 19: 24
    -4
    Some kind of heresy. He pricked, and the rest lined up and waited until he killed everyone. In my opinion, the soldier simply burst into the trench and killed the enemies in the traditional way, for example, with a grenade or from a rifle, and the author had already written about the bayonet.
  19. Leader
    Leader 6 January 2014 19: 45
    +23
    Something is not believed in the described battle ... Especially in the Germans falling just like that ... I think it was much easier and worse there.
    Bayonet fighting is such a surge of emotions and strength that simply escapes memory, is difficult to comprehend and, moreover, to subsequent repeated retelling. There, a person is overwhelmed by waves of fear, a wild desire to survive, and at the same time, the need to kill the enemy, to win in a one-on-one battle ...
    Surely, one or two Fritz shot at our fighter, but missed (remember the modern analysis of the effectiveness of the shootings of American police and armed bandits - when, for example, a policeman and a criminal fired 10 bullets at a distance of 5-10 meters and both didn’t Nothing surprising - extreme stress! This is not a bullet for you on a paper target to shoot ...). In addition, the vast majority of German soldiers still had rifles, and not MP-38/40. When there to juggle the shutter, when you already with a bayonet!
    Surely, Ishchenko ran along the trench and beat with a bayonet in turn the enemy soldiers that came across (by the way, perhaps some of them were only wounded; whoever checked there - well, fell and fell!) - both the Germans and our soldiers in the trench do not sit side by side , there is always a distance of several meters between them; fractures of trenches, serving to minimize losses when a shell burst, several meters long - in these "sections" for 1-2 people. Try it, see what's going on around the corner! And when you look - enemy soldiers are running at you, you need to concentrate and shoot. Some of the stabbed Germans, perhaps, did not see Ishchenko at all - they looked in the other direction, firing back from the advancing chain of our fighters.
    In addition, the report could be "embellished" - not an uncommon case. A hero was needed - and he was "made".
    I recall a similar case when Private Wataman allegedly killed 10 Fritz in hand-to-hand fighting, wielding a captured faustpatron like a club - sheer absurdity.
    Of course, Ishchenko is a hero! Yes, and the guy was lucky - what can I say! Arrived, jumped into the trench, entered hand-to-hand combat, and most importantly - won! Well done!
    And he killed four there with a bayonet or seven — it doesn’t matter anymore ... The main thing is that he won and remained alive!
    1. georg737577
      georg737577 6 January 2014 22: 33
      -3
      If he had PPSh (and cartridges for him) - there would be no feat ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 7 January 2014 10: 17
        +13
        Quote: georg737577
        If he had PPSh (and cartridges for him) - there would be no feat ...

        And the FIRST, ALONE, to break into enemy trenches is not a feat?
        1. saxa2103
          saxa2103 7 January 2014 11: 45
          +3
          in ancient Rome, the consul awarded the Golden Wreath to soldiers who, when they captured the city, were the first to climb the wall.
        2. Proud.
          Proud. 7 January 2014 22: 07
          +2
          Quote: Corsair
          And the FIRST, ALONE, to break into enemy trenches is not a feat?
          My grandfather, the first to burst into an enemy trench (in Poland), was awarded the 3rd degree Glory.
    2. xan
      xan 7 January 2014 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: Leader
      Something is not believed in the described battle ... Especially in the Germans falling just like that ...

      Above, the soldier’s story about the first hand-to-hand combat. He hit with a bayonet on the mosquito not lightly, but with all the foolishness, and struck the German so that already the front sight got out - the two of them pulled out a rifle. He says there that they were taught to beat lightly.
  20. washi
    washi 6 January 2014 20: 02
    +2
    Doshdo to the melee.
    The fighters are great.
    Commanders are bad
  21. Leader
    Leader 6 January 2014 20: 03
    +19
    And it’s not necessary to make any German idiots out of German soldiers — for no reason falling from fear, or dutifully waiting for their turn to die.
    German soldiers at that time (43-44) were mostly trained, trained, well-equipped fighters, not too afraid of even hand-to-hand attacks from Soviet units. Let me remind you that the Germans had such insignia as "For close combat" 3-degrees - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CD%E0%E3%F0%F3%E4%ED%FB%E9_%E7 % ED% E0% EA_% AB% C7% E0_
    %E1%EB%E8%E6%ED%E8%E9_%E1%EE%E9%BB
    "... The sign was introduced in order to celebrate the courage and valor of the infantry, who won many times in hand-to-hand combat ..."
    So the enemy was both brave and strong! They obeyed the whole of Europe!
    And the more worthy is the Victory of our grandfathers! And the more expensive it should be to us!
    1. Fedya
      Fedya 6 January 2014 23: 31
      +4
      By the 44th year, the Fritz elite had been killed, a total German had gone!
      1. xan
        xan 7 January 2014 02: 00
        +2
        Quote: Fedya
        By the 44th year, the Fritz elite had been killed, a total German had gone!

        and there was an article here, as one dashing in the 41m laid a bunch of Germans
        they apparently simply did not expect such agility from him.
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 7 January 2014 16: 17
        +6
        By the 44th year, the Fritz elite had been killed, a total German had gone!


        Yes, here before such German warriors, our fathers and grandfathers had to fight.
        Glory to the Russian soldiers who died and survived in that terrible and difficult war!
        Glory to the Victors, forcing the Germans to urinate in their pants from fear of our soldiers! Let those who try to forget the history of World War II remember, let them remember their genetic fear of the Russians and never forget it.
        You can live with Russia only in peace.
        1. does it
          does it 8 January 2014 17: 53
          0
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Glory to the Victors, forcing the Germans to urinate in their pants from fear of our soldiers!

          I WATCHED THIS FILM.YOU WOULD LIKE A PICTURE POSITIVELY INSERTED. WITH MOTHER ZOLDEROMA AND WITH UNMISMEDIATED CHILD WHICH FOR ITS AGE AND NOT KNOWING ALL THE HORRORS OF THE WAR WAS TOGETHERED IN SUCCESS.
    2. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 8 January 2014 12: 18
      +6
      Quote: Leader
      And it’s not necessary to make any German idiots out of German soldiers — for no reason falling from fear, or dutifully waiting for their turn to die.
      German soldiers at that time (43-44) were mostly trained, trained, well-equipped fighters, not too afraid of even hand-to-hand attacks from Soviet units. Let me remind you that the Germans had such insignia as "For close combat" 3-degrees - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CD%E0%E3%F0%F3%E4%ED%FB%E9_%E7 % ED% E0% EA_% AB% C7% E0_

      %E1%EB%E8%E6%ED%E8%E9_%E1%EE%E9%BB
      "... The sign was introduced in order to celebrate the courage and valor of the infantry, who won many times in hand-to-hand combat ..."
      So the enemy was both brave and strong! They obeyed the whole of Europe!
      And the more worthy is the Victory of our grandfathers! And the more expensive it should be to us!

      you're right
      but at my house the letters were kept by my grandfather's brother (1942-43 he disappeared in the Belorussian Front, a veteran of the Finnish War, Officer) to his family and his brother too (my grandfather was on the Caucasian Front, he passed the Airborne Forces for three months but then they transferred and became tankmen (the Commander of the Company or something). these letters have been kept for almost 70 years, and in one of the letters I read that, against the Machine Gunners and Machine Gunners, we walked with Bayonets, and When we almost got to them, then many Germans Retreat (Fled) well, who remained (Germans) died in close combat! "
  22. drop
    drop 6 January 2014 20: 15
    +9
    The author of a story or article, whatever you want to call it, cites the material without thinking that it can be read by professionals. After killing the first enemy, many fighters were very worried. Then it passed and became commonplace. But to kill the first one always remains in memory. Some commanders, especially during the Patriotic War of 1812, taught and trained the Cossacks and infantrymen to kill the retreating "soldiers" of the Great Army. After that, our soldiers killed in cold blood. But M. Miloradovich did not allow this, they did it so that he did not know. Therefore, out of 550 thousand soldiers of the "Great Army" 15 thousand crossed the Berezina. Think about it. And articles should be written professionally, and not just like that. Generally I. Ishchenko is a hero. In my opinion, there should have been no prisoners of the Nazis. In some aviation regiments there was such an unspoken order, so the paratroopers were shot in the air. I approve of this for the death of my father, who defended Leningrad and died on December 27, 1941 on the "Road of Life". I have the honor.
    1. xan
      xan 7 January 2014 17: 17
      0
      Quote: Drop
      Some commanders, especially during the Patriotic War of 1812, taught and trained the Cossacks and infantrymen to kill the retreating "soldiers" of the Great Army

      I don’t know where you got it.
      I read the memoirs of Denis Davydov. I remember one moment. The commander of one of the partisan detachments, if memory serves, Figner, ordered the captives of the French to be killed. Figner the hero is indisputable, but was not shook hands among the Russian officers, personally despised by Davydov. Killing prisoners is not in Russian traditions. And the hereditary military has a lot of traditions - not to surrender is also a tradition, like the shame of captivity.
      1. drop
        drop 7 January 2014 19: 08
        +2
        Dear xan, I found this information in the archives when I was preparing the story "The Forgotten Governor-General" for publication. Please think about where the 535 thousand "soldiers" of Napoleon's "Great Army" went. Take all the battles, the number of killed, wounded and you will determine where these "soldiers" have gone. I don't think you know that after one battle on the battlefield M. Miloradovich picked up two French children (aged 5 and 7). Why did they go to Russia in such a configuration? He sent them to his sister, and then, after the war, raised famous actresses from them.
        To calmly kill the enemy with a knife, you must try with the instructor to work out this technique more than once. How much to say? I have the honor.
      2. drop
        drop 7 January 2014 19: 08
        +1
        Dear xan, I found this information in the archives when I was preparing the story "The Forgotten Governor-General" for publication. Please think about where the 535 thousand "soldiers" of Napoleon's "Great Army" went. Take all the battles, the number of killed, wounded and you will determine where these "soldiers" have gone. I don't think you know that after one battle on the battlefield M. Miloradovich picked up two French children (aged 5 and 7). Why did they go to Russia in such a configuration? He sent them to his sister, and then, after the war, raised famous actresses from them.
        To calmly kill the enemy with a knife, you must try with the instructor to work out this technique more than once. How much to say? I have the honor.
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  24. MahsusNazar
    MahsusNazar 7 January 2014 00: 27
    +8
    Quote: Drop
    The author of a story or article, whatever you want to call it, cites the material without thinking that it can be read by professionals. After killing the first enemy, many fighters were very worried. Then it passed and became commonplace. But to kill the first one always remains in memory. Some commanders, especially during the Patriotic War of 1812, taught and trained the Cossacks and infantrymen to kill the retreating "soldiers" of the Great Army. After that, our soldiers killed in cold blood. But M. Miloradovich did not allow this, they did it so that he did not know. Therefore, out of 550 thousand soldiers of the "Great Army" 15 thousand crossed the Berezina. Think about it. And articles should be written professionally, and not just like that. Generally I. Ishchenko is a hero. In my opinion, there should have been no prisoners of the Nazis. In some aviation regiments there was such an unspoken order, so the paratroopers were shot in the air. I approve of this for the death of my father, who defended Leningrad and died on December 27, 1941 on the "Road of Life". I have the honor.

    Miloradovich, having received a bullet in the back, at the "Decembrist Uprising", exclaimed with glee when he saw that it was a pistol - "Thank God, not from a soldier !!!!"
    An example of nobility and courage is about Miloradovich. Although the killing of the retreating French. I do not consider dishonor! Do not call them !!!
  25. Morgan761
    Morgan761 7 January 2014 02: 29
    +7
    Quote: MahsusNazar
    Although the killing of the retreating French. I do not consider dishonor! Do not call them !!!

    The Germans were not called either ... Oh, they weren’t called ....
    1. VeryHardClown
      VeryHardClown 7 January 2014 09: 49
      +3
      enemies need to kill kill kill
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 7 January 2014 19: 02
        +2
        The soldier on the opposite side is thinking the same thing. The main thing, in my opinion, is not to have this confrontation. Well, if all the same it will be, Hurray !. angry
  26. Lenhard
    Lenhard 7 January 2014 02: 56
    +2
    God helped, everyone’s weapons got stuck))
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 9 January 2014 06: 36
      0
      Mauser 98K is a very reliable weapon, like a "mosinka". What would it jam?
      1. Lenhard
        Lenhard 9 December 2015 08: 44
        0
        I say, God helped)
  27. hitech
    hitech 7 January 2014 04: 03
    +8
    Quote: ranger
    How to understand the phrase, the Germans fall dead even before the bayonet is thrust into them?
    So what did the Germans die from all the same, if the bayonet was not thrust into them? Something is not very clear, just touched the bayonet and the German fell forward already dead ?! What then, in the author’s opinion, was the cause of death if the bayonet did not pierce and there was no shooting ...

    In moments of over-tension of hand-to-hand / bayonet fighting, time seems to "slow down" in people. Therefore, it seemed to him that he "barely touched them." At such moments, a person's intuition, speed, and reaction are sharpened. It is not for nothing that the Russian bayonet attack since the time of Suvorov was considered the most terrible for the enemy. Because this is a confrontation between will, fortitude, the character of the attacker and the defender.
  28. D_L
    D_L 7 January 2014 10: 55
    +5
    Thanks to the author of the article. It was gratifying to read about the marvelous warrior Ivan. He fought in Suvorov, not by number, but by courage and skill! And all this at the age of 18! Honor and praise!
  29. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 7 January 2014 13: 11
    +9
    Quote: MahsusNazar
    Although the killing of the retreating French. I do not consider dishonor! Do not call them !!!

    Under the general name of the French, it was, among other things, a gangster rabble from all over Europe, who decided to profit at the expense of Russia and did not differ in high (any) morality - when Napoleon began to retreat from Moscow, this scum massacred all Russian prisoners and wounded who remained in hospitals, especially the Poles were zealous! So it is correct that all this "French" was destroyed during his retreat, they asked for it!
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 8 January 2014 07: 49
      +1
      Quote: Goldmitro
      Quote: MahsusNazar
      Although the killing of the retreating French. I do not consider dishonor! Do not call them !!!

      Under the general name of the French, it was, among other things, a gangster rabble from all over Europe, who decided to profit at the expense of Russia and did not differ in high (any) morality - when Napoleon began to retreat from Moscow, this scum massacred all Russian prisoners and wounded who remained in hospitals, especially the Poles were zealous! So it is correct that all this "French" was destroyed during his retreat, they asked for it!


      - By the way, they put a lot of this rabble here - more than 500 thousand. "Great Army" returned back no more than 5-10 thousand. With what they came, they found it.
      1. mamba
        mamba 8 January 2014 13: 24
        +1
        Quote: rodevaan
        this rabble was put here a lot - more than 500 thousand. "Great Army" returned back no more than 5-10 thousand.

        In 1812, at least 630 thousand people were mobilized against Russia alone. After crossing the Berezina on November 28, the Great Army was reduced to 20 thousand soldiers, and no more than 1812 thousand reached the border of the Russian Empire on the Neman in December 2. Napoleonologist Vladlen Sirotkin estimated the number of captured combatants of the Great Army at about 200 thousand. After the war, many of them settled well in Russia.
  30. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 7 January 2014 17: 30
    +7
    It seems to me that the soldier was just confused. 18 years old, trained only in elementary skills. He did not jump from the tank due to the fact that he did not hear the separated command. And when he jumped down, he turned out to be a German trench. Surely fell into an unconscious state from fear, and because of this, the instincts driven into the study turned on. So, acting with the bayonet of an empty rifle, he went through several turns of the German trench, stabbing the Germans, until ours ran up. What does not detract from his exploit!
  31. Lelek
    Lelek 7 January 2014 18: 57
    +6
    There were thousands of Seekers. These guys honestly did their military work, not chasing heroic honors. Honor and glory for centuries. soldier
  32. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. 7 January 2014 19: 44
    +1
    Most likely just luck
  33. mark7
    mark7 7 January 2014 19: 50
    +2
    Quote: Riperbahn
    He didn’t jump from the tank because he didn’t hear the command

    Rumbled from under the "mouse" movie "in war as in war" hero guy of course, somewhere read how one soldier with an ax chopped down almost a division of the Germans
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 7 January 2014 21: 12
      0
      Yes, probably - Rumbled from the movie. Right now the image has developed. The film is true, I think. One was afraid to jump and became a hero, the other because of the tank was afraid to bring SU. And they fulfilled all their duty.
      1. bulanash
        bulanash 8 January 2014 14: 11
        +1
        Ovcharenko Dmitry Romanovich - the name of a hero who didn’t cut an ax with an ax, more than a platoon of Nazis in July 1941. For this feat he was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. True, he didn’t see his award, by the time of the decree on awarding the division where he fought several times was surrounded and the traces of the hero are lost. According to the OBD-Memorial (http://www.obd-memorial.ru/html/info.htm?id=56483295), he was re-drafted after the liberation of Donbass in 1944 and died, liberating Hungary on January 28, 1945.
    2. bulanash
      bulanash 8 January 2014 13: 45
      0
  34. DRUG DRUG
    DRUG DRUG 7 January 2014 22: 03
    0
    Ishchenko was surprised when he realized that the Germans were falling dead even before a bayonet was thrust into them, and when four more fitts were replaced by four more, he decided to try to just touch one of them with a bayonet. The German began to fall forward soundlessly and with his weight ran into a bayonet already dead.

    This is a description of what is now called contactless combat. Ivan Ishchenko at the time of the manifestation of fighting spirit, when he entered a state of altered consciousness or combat trance, the mechanisms of field contactless action on the enemy worked and the enemy died before physical contact. This is what distinguishes Russian wars at all times, and this is what our enemies fear. And our Russian wars have always been and always will be strong, courageous and fair. Enemies, know about our heroes and remember that their children and grandchildren live now, and there are millions of them. Do not touch the Russians. The trouble is whoever goes against the Russians. And we all must also remember that the same blood flows in us the brave Russian Wars, united by one Goal, one Idea, Strength of Spirit, Conscience, Courage and Justice.
    1. family tree
      family tree 7 January 2014 22: 44
      +4
      Well, it started. Taki until you poke a knife, no one dies. And the village boys, hands to the elbow in blood, starting with the chickens and ending with the gobies, have to cut everyone. The village itself, even if it’s flowing, has no sensations other than the taste of iron in the mouth. And who is there to cut, a pig, or a feud. A short knife, by the way, has an advantage against a firearm. Uncle just worked out the required program on 6.0, cut all and didn’t set himself up.
      1. Metlik
        Metlik 9 January 2014 02: 12
        0
        Maybe at the same time as the blow, another fighter shot at the Germans.
  35. il grand casino
    il grand casino 7 January 2014 22: 22
    +2
    My grandfather got his first "courage" at the age of 18, when in his first battle during an attack he was the first to break into the enemy's position and hand-to-hand (the machine gun jammed) laid a machine-gun crew of three. He asked how, he says that it was just very scary. And the burden turned out to be strong. And why did it happen that it was he who spoke - so God probably needed to ... And by the way, he was not Russian, but German.
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 8 January 2014 07: 46
      0
      Quote: il grand casino
      My grandfather got his first "courage" at the age of 18, when in his first battle during an attack he was the first to break into the enemy's position and hand-to-hand (the machine gun jammed) laid a machine-gun crew of three. He asked how, he says that it was just very scary. And the burden turned out to be strong. And why did it happen that it was he who spoke - so God probably needed to ... And by the way, he was not Russian, but German.


      - The main thing is that he was Russian in spirit! Like many of our soldiers who performed similar feats.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 8 January 2014 10: 28
        +4
        Yes nifiga, he was not Russian in spirit. Father yes, I yes. But he said that with an accent and he never celebrated our holidays (except May 9). The German is Catholic. There was practically nothing Russian in it. Just a man defended his home. And the house of him and his family was the USSR. That's all
  36. rodevaan
    rodevaan 8 January 2014 07: 43
    0
    "A bullet is a fool, a bayonet is great!" - So the great Suvorov, who did not lose a battle, used to say!
    Glory to the Russian soldier-hero - his ingenuity, training, assertiveness and faith!
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 8 January 2014 16: 20
      +1
      And Lefty said that in England guns are not cleaned with bricks ...
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 9 January 2014 06: 50
        0
        Vo-in. Very in the Crimean company it became obvious.
  37. ed65b
    ed65b 8 January 2014 09: 47
    -1
    somewhere I read about the existence of unspoken rules of hand-to-hand combat. and the Germans and ours fought exclusively with knives, butts, and fists. if anyone used a firearm they tried to kill him first. Maybe that's why they didn’t shoot.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 8 January 2014 16: 18
      0
      Ptrons run out quickly (true for PP) when will you reload the rifle? how to shoot when the rows are mixed? the cartridges are not manna from heaven, they wedge their heads in a fight specifically because of adrenaline, and first of all only instincts and reflexes arise, in the city and building rebounds, the only thing that is possible is hand-to-hand combat.
      The rules of a noble war were forgotten back in World War I. The armies were replaced, the Red Army was created from scratch, the German Army was similar, the American never heard of a noble war; as a result, only the French remained from the old armies (the French didn’t give up without a fight, but they fired into the air, but formally they fought) and english. The mention of a noble war is generally a heresy!
  38. creak
    creak 8 January 2014 10: 56
    +3
    I wonder who established these rules and how - did they declare a ceasefire or did Molotov and Ribbentrop agree? What are you speaking about? Fights during the Second World War are not knightly tournaments of the times of King Arthur and whoever gave this, with permission, knowledge about the war at the level of the author of the article. It seems that neither in the Brest Fortress, nor in Sevastopol, nor in Stalingrad about these rules heard ... All kinds of office commandos divorced, who didn’t even have a machine gun in their hands, but they think they know how they conduct and what the soldiers feel in battle ...
  39. virm
    virm 8 January 2014 16: 50
    +1
    Ivan Ilyich Ishchenko was a native of almost the same places - he was born in the village of Vershino-Kamenka, now the Novgorod district of the Kirovograd region.

    Countryman! I was born in Alexandria. Almost near.
    Jumping into the trenches to the Germans with an unloaded rifle - that says a lot. Including, and about that hatred which this 18-year-old guy had for occupiers. My grandmother told me a lot about how the Germans mocked the local population.
    1. afair
      afair 9 January 2014 01: 54
      0
      And generally speaking. There is no such village, Kazarka, but there is the village of Kokhanovka in the Znamensky district of the Kirovograd region. Everything happened there. I myself am from Znamenka and live here.
      Yes, the trick is life. And the fate of this man was not easy. But that’s why there is a lot of respect for him.
  40. does it
    does it 8 January 2014 17: 36
    0
    he drove the bayonet into the German along the very trunk, after which, in order to remove the body of the murdered officer from the bayonet, he had to pretty tinker. When the bayonet was free, three more Germans gathered at the scene, waiting in line. The course of the trench was tight, and the Germans could approach Ishchenko only one at a time. It is unknown why none of them tried to shoot, without fail trying to stab our fighter with bayonets of their carbines.
    Really on the front line the Germans ran out of ammunition !!!! hard to believe. It's how long they stared at him! Yes, and wield a rifle with a bayonet in a narrow trench.
  41. ed65b
    ed65b 8 January 2014 17: 45
    -3
    well, and how the downed pilots weren’t shot during a parachute jump, neither the Germans nor ours - is that not an unspoken rule of warfare ??? So relax the scribes.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 8 January 2014 20: 30
      +1
      Well, the memoirs of the war veterans ... you at least read Simonov, about how the Germans did not shoot the pilots ...
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 8 January 2014 23: 41
        -1
        Simonov writer, read Tolkien. The pilots during the descent were not shot precisely by the pilots of the aircraft. Mitelman read.
        1. il grand casino
          il grand casino 9 January 2014 00: 06
          +3
          Well, first of all, anyone who wrote a book is, to a certain extent, a writer. And secondly, Simonov was also a war correspondent
  42. Makyr
    Makyr 8 January 2014 20: 50
    +2
    Cossack Kozma Kryuchkov, August 1914. 100 years of feat.

    ISKRA MAGAZINE, FOURTEEN YEAR

    Illustrated artistic and literary and humorous magazine with caricatures.

    It is published weekly at the newspaper "Russian Word".

    No. 33, Sunday, August 24, 1914



    Cossack Kryuchkov.

    The reconnaissance detachment of four Cossacks, in which Kuzma Kryuchkov was located, safely crossed the border. The enemy was nowhere to be seen. Slowly, the detachment plunged into Prussia. The Cossacks spent the night in a small grove.

    In the morning, a few miles from them, a Prussian cavalry detachment of 27 men appeared. When the Prussians approached the distance of a shotgun, the Cossacks dismounted and opened fire. The officer, the head of the German detachment, ordered something. The Prussian cavalry began to retreat quickly.
    The Cossacks jumped on their horses and rushed at the enemy with a hoot. Kuzma Kryuchkov on his frisky horse overtook his comrades and the first crashed into an enemy detachment.
    The other Cossacks arrived in time for an instant saw Kryuchkov surrounded by the Prussians and swinging his saber to the right and left. Then people and horses, everything mixed up in a common landfill. One of the Cossacks saw a Prussian officer with a naked sword squeezing through Kryuchkov in this dump. Cossack shot. The Prussian officer fell. Kryuchkov, meanwhile, also snatched out a rifle and wanted to shoot a Prussian non-commissioned officer, but he hit Kryuchkov with a saber in the arm, cut his fingers, and the Cossack dropped the rifle. The next moment, despite the wound received, Kryuchkov cut his non-commissioned officer’s neck.
    Two Prussians with peaks attacked Kryuchkov, trying to knock him out of the saddle, but Kryuchkov grabbed the enemy peaks with his hands, pulled them to him and threw both Germans off their horses. Then, armed with a Prussian lance, Kryuchkov again rushed into battle. A few minutes passed - and of the 27 Prussians who fought with 4 Don Cossacks, only three remained on horseback, who turned into wild flight. The rest were either killed or injured. The Cossacks sent several more bullets after the fleeing.
    Kuzma Kryuchkov alone knocked down 11 Germans and received 16 wounds himself. Wounded by a bullet. A saber chopped arm. The remaining injuries are peaks. Despite all this, Kryuchkov remained in the ranks until the very end of the battle.
    The army commander telegraphed congratulated the ataman of the Donskoy army on rewarding the first St. George Cross in the army with the Cossack farm Nizhny-Kalmykov, Ust-Medveditsky district, Kuzma Kryuchkov, who alone killed 11 Germans, received 16 wounds with a spike in himself and 11 in the horse.

    Kryuchkov was born into an Old Believer family. Literacy studied at home. He is not strong, but very flexible, dodgy and persistent. Always been the first in all games requiring dexterity. Kryuchkov’s father is not rich, he is engaged in agriculture. After marriage, Kryuchkov and his wife were the main support of the whole family. Among the farmers, the Kryuchkovs enjoy a well-deserved reputation as home-grown and religious owners.
  43. Legate
    Legate 8 January 2014 21: 30
    0
    maybe those Germans who were in the trench didn’t go in the tank, they were frightened by the Red Army, it’s psychology ..... Moreover, it was the 44th year, the most seasoned soldiers were knocked out, and in battle you do right away what the body is used to, everything is at the level of reflexes - this is if there is no special training, I mean close combat, hand-to-hand combat.
  44. afair
    afair 9 January 2014 00: 41
    0
    Ischenko Ivan Ilyich
    awarded the Order of Glory 1st
    degrees. Became full
    Knight of the Order of Glory.
    After the war, senior sergeant
    Ishchenko continued to serve in
    army in Poland then in
    military unit in
    Khmelnitsky region. Entered
    in contact with a member
    nationalistic
    organization of the OUN by his
    stole the assignment from the warehouse
    two machines equipped
    shops and handed
    "Bandera." Was arrested and
    March 1, 1948 convicted
    Military Tribunal North-
    Caucasus Military District,
    sentenced to 20 years
    imprisonment. By
    petition of the tribunal by decree
    Presidium of the Supreme Council
    USSR of July 23, 1948
    deprived of the orders of Glory 2nd and 3rd
    1st degree (Order of Glory XNUMXst
    degree has not yet been awarded).
    After release from places
    imprisonment lived in the city
    Pridneprovsk (since 1977 in
    city ​​composition
    Dnepropetrovsk). Worked
    gas welder on
    Pridneprovsk State District Power Station.
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 9 January 2014 06: 58
      0
      Here is an aphron. Seriously ?
    2. drop
      drop 9 January 2014 08: 29
      0
      Yes, such information crosses out everything.
  45. afair
    afair 9 January 2014 00: 51
    0
    Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme
    Council of the USSR of April 7, 1967
    years reinstated
    awards. Then was handed
    Order of Glory 1st degree.
    He lived in the city of Dnepropetrovsk.
    Participant of the Victory Parade 1985
    of the year. Died November 1, 1989
    of the year. Buried in a cemetery in
    Chapli Samarsky
    Dnipropetrovsk region
    region.
    Decorated with orders
    World War 1
    degrees (11.03.1985/1/XNUMX), Glories of the XNUMXst
    (27.06.1945/2/30.11.1944), 3nd (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) and XNUMX-
    th (19.01.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX) degrees,
    medals, including
    Polish medal "Victory and
    Freedom. "
  46. biznaw
    biznaw 9 January 2014 01: 02
    0
    Quote: georg737577
    If he had PPSh (and cartridges for him) - there would be no feat ...

    Do not minus the comrade, do not understand the irony? Then this development option, the cartridges in the drum jammed and the fighter was forced to hit with a butt on the forehead of every German who had run up to him, having previously repulsed the blow with a bayonet. Seeing such a picture, the Germans in horror stabbed their own bayonets.
  47. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 9 January 2014 06: 06
    0
    Ivan Ilyich Ishchenko was a native of almost the same places - he was born in the village of Vershino-Kamenka, now the Novgorod district of the Kirovograd region. His native village was liberated only a few months before the events described, and the 18-year-old Ivan was immediately included in the 294-th Guards Rifle Regiment.

    An 18-year-old Hero defended his Native Land !! And how many of them there are, because many have been forgotten .. There would be more such articles about the exploits of our Heroes! Eternal Glory to you !!
  48. Prometey
    Prometey 9 January 2014 13: 55
    0
    The material seems to be a mixture of truth and fiction. And not that he killed seven in the battle, but that the extreme Germans stupidly watched as they were piercing them with a bayonet in turn and doing nothing at the same time.
  49. rpek32
    rpek32 9 January 2014 15: 19
    0
    Quote: adler
    Create a separate column of Heroes of the Fatherland !!!

    a plus. good idea.
  50. artgrad
    artgrad 9 January 2014 18: 54
    0
    That's about with such a face as that of a guy in the middle, our grandfathers went to the enemy! No wonder that nemchura lost!