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Get up, the country is huge!

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Get up, the country is huge!Many tragic events have happened in my country over the past year. I can't handle the shock of the Stalingrad events. Stalingrad caught me especially. Not only because I had to be in this city, where many friends who quite recently met and saw me off at this station. I consciously call this city one of its three names, namely, Stalingrad, a name symbolizing the victory of our people. A radical change in the course of World War II and the entire Second World War! We were so taught. Not textbooks stories and not made a lot of noise in the past year, the film "Stalingrad". We were taught by fathers and grandfathers who went through this war, who were there, saw and realized unequal forces in this battle. Absolutely losing positions and a great victory!


As a temporary defeat, as a retreat in 1941, I perceive the events of the last days of the past year. For various reasons. Perhaps I do not understand much. But, not understanding, I can not see, not notice.
Against the background of numerous conversations about “civil society” - complete civic indifference to the national tragedy. It is “civil indifference”. In many hearts of my compatriots - piercing pain. In many media, relish tragedy in conjunction with the pre-holiday advertising new pleasures. Mourning is only in Volgograd. In Moscow - fireworks, entertainment. On December 31, in Volgograd, a funeral, and in Moscow early in the morning the janitors hang festive flags on their houses. As if this tragedy does not concern every citizen of Russia, from Kaliningrad to Sakhalin! Universal mourning is not a dull and gloomy face, it is not a refusal to celebrate the New Year, from new hopes and expectations. This is participation, it is a union in general grief.

It turns out that the tragedy is officially recognized as universal only with a certain number of the dead. 34 life is a local scale for the Motherland.

Now this definition, which is customary for those who remember the USSR, is less and less used.

The monument “Motherland-Motherland” towers on Mamayev Kurgan. But this symbol has been silent for a long time, frozen in a stone boulder over the city, above Russia. How many children have to lose the mother to moan in pain, crying in grief? For our Motherland, for official Russia, 34 the lives of their daughters and sons is a local event.

And if you remember that all the dead are young or very young, then to the number of 34 you need to add their children and grandchildren - not born. It is necessary to understand, although it is difficult, that the children of Russia of the next generations died.

But who will consider them in a country where, with the help of modern medical technologies, millions of children who have already been conceived but not yet born are annihilated annually! Comfort living at the expense of things to come. This is the social norm of today. Especially for persons of "Slavic nationality" and the Christian faith. They are “protected” from their children, and those from whom they did not have time to “protect themselves” are killed “humanely and aesthetically.” So it is accepted to call the modern form of chemical attack on the smallest citizens, whom the Motherland does not yet consider to be its citizens. And there are no international sanctions for the genocide of the unborn. Moreover, it is recommended by specific structures of the “civilized international community”, especially those who defend human rights, including in Russia. The right to kill - instead of the right to life. It does not matter that many who take advantage of the rights protected by democratic and liberal structures, along with the right to dispose of their body, acquire the right to infertility. Today, children can be made "in vitro", often using "donor material" or the services of "surrogate mothers." Moreover, you can kill without counting, use for rejuvenation or for medical experiments instead of rats. Unnoticed, as in well-organized terrorist acts, the Motherland can become a surrogate mother for all of us ...

It should not be forgotten that the majority of Muslims, including the “radical Islamists,” conceive their children naturally and let them live to birth and live on. To see the demographic difference, look again at the chronicles of Muslim actions in Moscow. Thousands, maybe millions of young strong guys! How they stand for each other - brother for brother, matchmaker for matchmaker! Where are our millions of boys and girls? Where are their brothers and sisters? Sorry for being rude - in condoms and abortion clinics. And now also in cryo-depositories for excess embryos!

But before you curse those who did something wrong, or did not do what he had to do, look at our families, our homes. Who is the boss in them? Television? The Internet? Comfort? Yes, without this we no longer think of our life. But the masters of our life, if we want to live, we must become ourselves.

Visible attacks have roots in the invisible, those that occur in families, in relationships. The attacks begin where young people can say: “We must get out of this country.” Nobody explained to them, neither at school, nor in the family, nor on television, that they do not have another country, that no one is waiting for them personally beyond the hazy border, behind the pink curtains. Yes, there they may get their lentil soup and even a piece of bread and butter, but they will become mankurts, Ivanians, relatives who do not remember. Do not remember their history, their motherland. Today, no one will believe or agree with the fact that the Iron Curtain, especially the information one, protected the people from extinction and from direct destruction.

In the past year, relatives and friends mourned the soldiers, policemen, civilians who died in local terrorist attacks, and on the third day of the coming year, the media reported on the killing of a policeman in the Moscow region. They managed to accustom the country to the killings of policemen and military in the North Caucasus - how they accustomed and chew this information at breakfast in the program “Good morning, country!”

For calls for separatism from this year introduced criminal liability. Isn’t separatism - to teach people not to perceive certain regions as their own country, as their motherland?

Therefore, I consider what happened after the terrorist attacks in Stalingrad and in Russia a civil defeat. I want to shout: “Get up, great country!”

And the country is walking. Feast in Time of Plague!

I do not understand anything in military anti-terrorism special operations. Perhaps everything is done correctly and in a timely manner. Perhaps victims cannot be avoided.

I bow to the feat of the dead, who blocked the new “embrasures”. I cry along with the parents of Dmitry Makovkin and other mothers and fathers who lost their sons and daughters in an undeclared war. But I don’t understand why still new embrasures should be covered with the bodies of our children?

I don’t understand what the “yellow” regime of a terrorist threat means if in such a regime public transport is quietly blown up at rush hour? Maybe it is impossible to control? Technically impossible? Maybe, none does not do it because each thinks that somebody it will do. ABOUT, anyonecome on! ..

These days I often remember Valencia 2006-year. It happened to me to be there in those days when the tragedy in the subway occurred, which took 41 life. These days in Valencia, the World Meeting of Families took place. Summer, sea, bright colors, a holiday, millions of guests, mostly young families with children, in national costumes, representing different countries and continents. Not to universal mourning. People came to the holiday! And there was universal mourning, all flags with black ribbons were lowered, entertainment events were canceled. But mourning has become the banner of unity. On the day of the tragedy, the president of the country arrived in the city with his wife. Such an impression was created that for the president every citizen of the country entrusted to him is important. For the country of Spain, for its president and for its guests, what happened was a common pain. In these subway cars could be any of us who traveled this metro line every day.

I often remember this, especially in the days of our national tragedies, which happen too often. But not today it began, unfortunately, and not with the explosions in Volgograd. Our Motherland is a large family. I do not know how many victims, hundreds, thousands, millions, are needed to do something. Or should you just stop and think? When will our motherland, our mother, become dear to every citizen, every person?

In connection with this, I recalled a case from my school life when I was almost kicked out of the Komsomol. The whole great country was discussing the feat of the tractor driver, who died while saving the collective farm tractor. Schoolchildren wrote essays on a given topic according to a given pattern. It has always been difficult for me to fit into the given schemes, and in my essay it was said that all the tractors of the Soviet Union are not worth the same life as tractor driver Anatoly. I still remember his name. And I remember the noise that went up in defense of the tractors!
Well, it is not accepted in our Motherland, in my beloved Russia, to appreciate every life of our children, every person. Perhaps because we have one war, another one. And now there is a war, obvious, concrete, but not realized by many. The authorities may have noticed this war, perhaps they are doing everything to win. But we, ordinary people, do not understand, not to notice what it is, and for whose victory.

Nevertheless, it is time for all ordinary people to understand that the people's war has been going on for a long time, a war against a particular people — against us! I can't know how holy this war is. Perhaps this is why the people are not aware of the scale of this war and are not embarking on a mortal battle. The enemy is cunning and cunning. He can pretend to be trusted by definition. The enemy can use a white coat of a doctor as a camouflage, can enter a school, a kindergarten, pretending to be a preacher, a priest or Santa Claus. The attacks began to be committed by the hands of persons of "Slavic appearance." Without waiting for the end of the investigation, the media give the names of the terrorists. First, the surname Pavlov, then Pavel Pechenkin, and also the Russian female surname. What for? To divert the natural assumptions about the "Caucasian wake"? Do not raise popular outrage? Who allowed in the "yellow" mode to publish unverified information?

All these and many other questions I can only ask myself and you, who are reading this article. The main question I ask myself is: “What can I do in this situation for my country?” My answer to myself is that the time has come to realize that the security of our future, our children and grandchildren is directly related to the security of the Fatherland, for which each of us is personally liable - as best we can. It's time to get out of hibernation and wake up those who are still able to wake up and shout: “Get up, great country!”

The lessons of history teach us to believe in victory and to do everything possible and impossible to win.
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  1. major071
    major071 6 January 2014 15: 11
    +38
    Article plus. I will subscribe to every word of the author. Shameful, painful and bitter ...
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 6 January 2014 15: 21
      +86
      And I will not subscribe. The article is feminine emotional. What do we all country live according to the scenario of terrorists? Life goes on, albeit with pain in the heart. Stalingrad must again become a turning point in this war.
      What I agree with the author is the prohibition of abortion. The more of us, the stronger we are.
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 15: 58
        +28
        Nobody forces you to live according to the scenario of terrorists.
        But that bacchanalia that these days was on the screen, too, should not be. This is not human.
        A ban on abortion will have little effect, only the number of clandestine, private abortion clinics will increase.
        It is necessary to properly educate boys and girls so that, as Elizabeth correctly said, when choosing between personal comfort and a child, a husband and wife always choose a child. So that even such a thought does not arise! Only then do they become Father and Mother, and not just parents.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 6 January 2014 17: 00
          +38
          Quote: sergey32
          What do we all country live according to the scenario of terrorists? Life goes on, albeit with pain in the heart.

          Right. For us - Russians Russian (this is one 143 millionth nation) there is no difference in the number of victims, and the first toast for the New Year was to be for all those who died, and the second for the death of all those involved. And the fact that we didn’t make a nationwide cry out of this is a plus, since this is exactly what the terrorists and their Western "partners" are trying to achieve - to break or at least break our spirit, make us afraid, close our houses and don’t show our nose ... Fuck two!

          Quote: sergey32
          Stalingrad must again become a turning point in this war.

          And something tells me what will become, all great things are done quietly.

          Quote: sergey32
          What I agree with the author is the prohibition of abortion. The more of us, the stronger we are.

          One of the first decrees of Stalin after the war (or before. Correct if wrong) was the ban on abortion. And this prohibition did not have to be lifted. For such a great country like Russia, there should be 300 millions of us - and this is the minimum, so you should not divide the number of people born on a national basis, but it is better to take an example from the same southern compatriots and large families in central Russia and the Far East. The Russians (we are all 143 million) give birth little, since they were most exposed to an information attack to vaccinate Western values Ala-family will wait - the main career. This stereotype must be trampled, three children - this is the norm.
          For all those who start throwing phrases about "standard of living does not allow" and other excuses, I advise you to read Turgenev's story "Two Rich Man" - it is short, but carries a very important and deep meaning.
          "And we are not salty" - a phrase that crosses out all those values ​​alien to us about personal growth, career, freedom and other heresy.
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 6 January 2014 18: 59
            +10
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            three children is the norm.

            The third is no longer able to age is not the same. And if you adopt it is considered?
            1. Elizabeth
              6 January 2014 19: 55
              +15
              The third is no longer able to age is not the same. And if you adopt it is considered?

              Everyone is considered. Those who have been born to teach the Motherland to love and give birth to children, to give adopted children their love, a chance to be and remain a person in any conditions. Yes, and save from international adoption.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 7 January 2014 22: 14
                +1
                Quote: Elizabeth
                Everyone is considered.

                Abandoned children also need to be brought up, and a person who has brought up a child who is not his own is undoubtedly worthy of respect, but this does not have any effect on demography, the adopted child already exists and is "counted", even though it sounds cynical.
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 7 January 2014 20: 45
              -4
              Quote: shuhartred
              The third is no longer able to age is not the same. And if you adopt it is considered?

              An adopted child does not improve demographics.
              1. Current 72
                Current 72 7 January 2014 23: 58
                +8
                Yes, it's not demography, but HUMANITY !!!
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 9 January 2014 00: 16
                  0
                  Quote: Current 72
                  Yes, it's not demography, but HUMANITY !!!

                  The question was asked about demography, not about humanity.
              2. Ivan.
                Ivan. 8 January 2014 01: 33
                +6
                Quote: Setrac
                Quote: shuhartred
                The third is no longer able to age is not the same. And if you adopt it is considered?

                An adopted child does not improve demographics.

                Since no one answered on the topic, let me allow myself to note: children usually copy their parents and therefore children brought up by boarding schools both psychologically and with regard to their future family, its usefulness is inferior to ordinary children - with whom you will behave and you will run into. The main food for a small child is the love of parents, without it, if it survives, it will not be completely full.
                1. shuhartred
                  shuhartred 8 January 2014 04: 59
                  +6
                  Quote: Ivan.
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  The third is no longer able to age is not the same. And if you adopt it is considered?

                  An adopted child does not improve demographics.

                  Since no one answered on the topic, let me allow myself to note: children usually copy their parents and therefore children brought up by boarding schools both psychologically and with regard to their future family, its usefulness is inferior to ordinary children - with whom you will behave and you will run into. The main food for a small child is the love of parents, without it, if it survives, it will not be completely full.


                  Yeah, well, finally someone answered normally. Thanks we will implement! hi
                  1. Ivan.
                    Ivan. 8 January 2014 05: 23
                    +3
                    Quote: shuhartred
                    Thanks we will implement!

                    God help you !!! smile
            3. Current 72
              Current 72 7 January 2014 23: 56
              +22
              I raised two children, my wife died. I got married the second time and helped raise her two children. And I think that it’s just human, and I don’t see any heroism, or anything else. I just need to live and be a person.
          2. kris
            kris 7 January 2014 22: 17
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            For all those who start throwing phrases about "the standard of living does not allow" and other excuses, I advise you to read the story of Turgenev "Two rich" - it is short, but carries a very important and deep meaning.

            Dear! How many children do you have?
          3. 120352
            120352 8 January 2014 12: 01
            +9
            Bravo! The word DISSEMINED was invented by the enemies of our people, who wished to destroy it. I have a familiar Korean family. Father and mother were born in Russia, but their parents were in Korea during the war. So, their swarm of children sincerely consider themselves Russian and in all documents, where possible, indicate the nationality "RUSSIAN". I fully understand them. At one time, the father of Vladimir Ivanovich Dahl, a Dane by birth, said to his children: "You were lucky to be born in a great country and live among a great people. So be Russian!" Apparently, the ethnic Tatars who became Russian, Yusupovs, Karamzin (his ancestors bore the name Kara-Murza), the Great Traveler, Captain-Commander Vitus Bering, the arap of Peter the Great Hannibal and many, many others, who became true Russians and multiplied glory to Russia. They were sincerely Russian, like Pushkin or Lermontov, who created our literature. At one time, there were such concepts as Russian German, Russian French, Russian Italian. I'm not even talking about Russian Jews (for example, Dmitry Mendeleev, Ilya Repin, Joseph Brodsky or Alexander Rosenbaum) and other kind of Russians who became Russians. But the SCATTERS - the people scattered about the world - are strangers to me!
        2. Elizabeth
          6 January 2014 19: 38
          +6
          Yes, it’s true, the ban on abortion will do little. In all ages, all peoples, under all regimes, have had and will continue to have clandestine private abortions, regardless of the ban or legalization. There are always reasons to go underground; the main one is to hide something. Now another is dangerous, and this danger is not recognized as a danger. This is a direct chemical attack on future generations. Strategic chemical weapons depots are not at military bases, but in pharmacies. Surgical abortion is a thing of the past. And pharmacies are becoming more and more. And then - infertility. Here it is necessary to teach young and not only that.
          1. calocha
            calocha 7 January 2014 09: 30
            +15
            Well, who told you that he will give little?! You are an expert in this field ?! Turn on the brain !!! It used to be, but now it will not ... stupid! A versatile war is being waged with us, Russia is a training ground where they open up corruption like a tire the gene code of the Slavs. Starting with drugs and ending with food (GMOs, eski, etc., etc.), they kill us !!! Only on the table at the Government is everything good and we are good.
            1. Elizabeth
              7 January 2014 14: 21
              +7
              Well, who told you that he will give little?! You are an expert in this field ?! Turn on the brain !!! It used to be, but now it will not ... stupid! A versatile war is being waged with us, Russia is a training ground where they open up corruption like a tire the gene code of the Slavs. Starting with drugs and ending with food (GMOs, eski, etc., etc.), they kill us !!! Only on the table at the Government is everything good and we are good.


              Dear calocha, I must admit that in this area I have had to learn and understand a lot over the past 25 years. Earlier, at least 20 years ago, an outright ban on abortion would have been an undoubted blessing. Now this ban will really give a lot. The question is, to whom and what will it give? Manufacturers and distributors of chemical forms of attack on our future will be in great profits. They will also rub their little hands in the structures of birth control, or as they now call themselves their official representatives in Russia - RANiR (Russian Association for Population and Development). They will develop a vigorous activity in defense of human rights, democrats and liberals will join them. But this is not so scary, as they survived some restrictions in certain rights. Worse, they will rush with their strategic reserves at our youth with sex education programs and free distribution of their weapons of mass self-destruction. In reality, for the preservation of the people and its future generations, it can be done by adding two letters to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, article 17.p.2 "" Basic human rights and freedoms are inalienable and belong to everyone from birth. "If you replace the words" from birth "by" from birth " or "from conception", then all forms of chemical attack (hormonal contraceptives, medical abortion, aggressive management of pregnancy and childbirth), human experiments in the form of artificial insemination and surrogacy will become illegal. And all forms of human rights defenders' hooting will be prohibited We simply will not have time to aggression against childbirth. Now there is a massive destruction of the country's childbearing potential. And what on the table of oligarchs and higher power structures should not worry the people. Let them eat themselves. And for each of us your advice to "turn on the brains" is very useful.
        3. Ivan.
          Ivan. 7 January 2014 01: 58
          +7
          Quote: Kahlan Amnell
          A ban on abortion will have little effect, only the number of clandestine, private abortion clinics will increase.

          If you look, you will find information about making dough (talking about very big money) on embryos that are used in underground medicine, as well as about frequent cases of pregnant women inducing abortion by intimidation and deception about the health of the fetus. If you prohibit abortion, which at any time is a murder, their number will be reduced by at least two, and if you conduct competent work with women in labor, help or, in extreme cases, simplify the refusal procedure, the situation will change dramatically. Here the situation is similar to the adoption of children by foreigners, and even worse.
          Quote: Kahlan Amnell
          It is necessary to properly educate boys and girls

          Yes, at least they stopped pooping in their brains, that is, they would put things in order in the SMD, it’s time to introduce censorship a long time ago, of course, what can I say if people do not live thanks to the care of the state but in spite of it.
          1. Elizabeth
            7 January 2014 14: 39
            +3
            If you prohibit abortion, which at any time is a murder, their number will be reduced by at least two


            Surgical abortions are most often performed from the 8-th to the 12-th week of pregnancy, and chemical and other technologies of killing the human fetus, which are most often not called abortions (there are many other names for interrupting a person’s life) interrupt their life within a few hours from conception until the same 12 weeks or more. Surgical abortion after the 12 week in the Russian Federation is prohibited, and interruption of a person’s life from conception to birth using other technologies is performed at any time without restrictions.
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 7 January 2014 16: 29
              +3
              Quote: Elizabeth
              interruption of a person’s life from conception to birth with the help of other technologies is carried out at any time without restrictions.

              Lizaveta, does it make sense for me to write that I understand well?
              In my opinion, it is clear that in the case of abortions, the girl does not solely make a decision, but with the help of medical workers who are interested in this, on a legal (if it is not okay) basis and this must be broken. In the case of other methods of interruption, all initiative and responsibility lies with the woman and this can only be fought with education - a woman should be fully aware of all the consequences of her decision, while now she is carefully guarded from understanding and vice versa they recommend interruption (murder) as the best way out.
        4. O_RUS
          O_RUS 7 January 2014 20: 52
          +2
          Quote: Kahlan Amnell
          It is necessary to properly educate young men and women so that, as Elizabeth correctly said, when choosing between personal comfort and a child, a husband and wife always choose a child.


          +

          I have the same opinion. good
      2. Asgard
        Asgard 6 January 2014 16: 18
        +22
        But in vain do not subscribe Sergey. Women need to listen and most importantly hear ... Not just given to Man-Woman !!!!
        A woman is MATERIAL by nature, but Elizabeth is rather SPIRITUAL (since she writes strategically for the whole people))
        Time calls for UNION, then TIME has come (with Muslims, I agree, an unsuccessful example))
        But about the "yellow trail" She correctly noticed, unverified data about the Slavic terrorists "NESELA" ... learn from the WOMAN!
        In general, the feeling with these terrorist attacks is as if the authorities had done something yellow)))) with their behavior and support in the media ....

        They seriously consider the People as silly and narrow-minded and are offended when Girl Flint does not believe them (at the level of anticipation of events))) and the military, who know something, know how to analyze ....

        Bravo girl. For the article-awakening-low bow (although in this form it will awaken few People, unfortunately)))
        But you do not throw, slow down lazy men)))) It's time to put things in order ....
        Otherwise, such a fate awaits our grandchildren-http: //theme.orthodoxy.ru/abort/abortionphotos.html
        abortion
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 6 January 2014 16: 43
          +48
          So that there is no such thing as in your photo, I recently talked with my older children. They grew up, began to fly out of the parental nest. I said to them: "No matter how difficult it was for my mother and me, we did not kill any of you in the most difficult times. All of you were given the opportunity to be born and live. Anything can happen in life, there may be unplanned children. If you bring us anything, we are our own. do not quit. "
      3. Civil
        Civil 6 January 2014 16: 40
        +16
        The author is wrong! But what about the fact that thousands of Muslims serve in the Russian Army, including fighting in the Caucasus with militants, becoming heroes, love Russia? Again, be afraid to call a spade a spade !!!
        1. Kahlan amnell
          Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 16: 55
          +1
          Love Russia и Russian? Or Love Russia without Russians?
          Question requiring an answer ...
          1. Civil
            Civil 6 January 2014 17: 18
            +11
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            Love Russia и Russian? Or Love Russia without Russians?
            Question requiring an answer ...

            Are you confident in your own mental abilities ?!
            Miniakhmetov Eduard Rafkatovich, military unit 54262, private, a native of Baltachevsky district (Bashkortostan). Killed December 16, 1999
            He is for Russian or for Russia ...
            Wash your head sometimes from the inside.

            Another example:
            According to preliminary data, during the clash, the special forces combat group changed their firing positions when an explosive device made of a 152 mm artillery shell was detonated.

            - Having received injuries incompatible with life, the native of Ufa, deputy platoon commander ensign Diyarov Rustem Rafilevich, born in 1972, and machine gunner of the assault squad, native of Samara region, corporal Nikolay Malafeev, born in 1988, were killed, the Ministry of Internal Affairs told the press service of the Republic of Belarus.
            1. Kahlan amnell
              Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 17: 36
              +3
              Vadim, moderate your ardor, it is not addressed. There may be all sorts of questions, including, at first glance, provocative ones.
              However, you did not give an answer, there was only a surge of emotions.
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          2. gorez
            gorez 7 January 2014 17: 40
            +7
            But the answer to this question depends entirely on the Russians. Since ancient times, Russians have united nations. And one more thing - without education there will be no person, just as without a state there will be no state.
          3. Setrac
            Setrac 7 January 2014 20: 48
            +5
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            Love Russia and Russians? Or love Russia without Russian?
            Question requiring an answer ...

            What kind of Russia is this and they love, and we have ALL of another Russia.
        2. shuhartred
          shuhartred 6 January 2014 19: 08
          +14
          Quote: Civil
          The author is wrong! But what about the fact that thousands of Muslims serve in the Russian Army, including fighting in the Caucasus with militants, becoming heroes, love Russia? Again, be afraid to call a spade a spade !!!

          And what is the author wrong about? What do Muslims stand for each other? Or the fact that the Russians have largely lost this quality. Damn again, I share people, but I think you understand me. Religion has nothing to do with it. Who cares who you are. Living in Russia means Russian. All who do not think so are not citizens of our country. Good riddance to my homeland. So those about whom you speak, Russians, are simply of a different faith. All the same, I got confused somewhere, well, okay, how it happened. request
          1. not good
            not good 6 January 2014 20: 35
            +16
            The concept RUSSIAN has long been blurred in our country, more and more often the Russian is understood not as a nationality as such, but rather as a person’s self-identification in relation to society. I have a black man who says in his passport that he’s Russian and generally scratch the Russian Tatar. the concept of Russian means a person regardless of nationality sick with all my heart for Russia and taking care of its welfare.
            1. officer29
              officer29 6 January 2014 21: 44
              +29
              I have a familiar family - my husband is Azerbaijani, my wife is German, and their children consider themselves RUSSIAN! good We have a saying in the Azov region: "Dad is a Turk, mom is a Greek, and I am a RUSSIAN man!" This, I understand, is the right upbringing! good drinks hi
            2. 120352
              120352 8 January 2014 12: 16
              +5
              I agree with you in many ways. The only thing I consider it necessary to add is that the concept RUSSIAN means not only ethnicity or nation, it is a civilizational concept, supranational, and therefore, here I completely agree with you, Russian is someone who supports Russia, lives on its interests, worries and thinks in Russian, cares about the good of Russia!
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      6. vezunchik
        vezunchik 6 January 2014 18: 36
        +5
        because of this "swamp" we live in shit. The tsrushniki were counting on such, and with the tacit consent of such "satisfied with life" the destruction of the country and the people takes place.
      7. knn54
        knn54 6 January 2014 22: 08
        +4
        -Sergey32: Stalingrad should again become a turning point in this war.
        The West destroyed the ancient empires / civilizations: Byzantium, the Aztecs / Incas, Marathi ... By the beginning of the twentieth century, almost the whole world, except Russia, had been brought to its knees before the “race of masters”. June 22, 1941 began the last, decisive Crusade, designed to crown the triumphal ascent of Western civilization. Under STALINGRAD, the collapse of the millennial strategy of the West came. Today, Stalingrad is Volgograd. So they hit the Symbol City. The customer is the same ...
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 7 January 2014 20: 50
          +1
          Quote: knn54
          June 22, 1941 began the last, decisive Crusade, designed to crown the triumphal ascent of Western civilization. Under STALINGRAD, the collapse of the millennial strategy of the West came. Today, Stalingrad is Volgograd. So they hit the Symbol City. The customer is the same ...

          I will add that the battle of Stalingrad is the very biblical decisive battle with evil, the very Armagedon.
        2. 120352
          120352 8 January 2014 12: 22
          +2
          Byzantium, in fact, was destroyed by the Muslims who came from Turkmenistan. Now we call them Turks. Although there are many sins behind the West too. But the terrorists are mainly fed by Saudi Arabia. the state policy of which is Wahhabism, and the Koran is used instead of the constitution. All Christian churches were destroyed in this country, and the confession of Christianity is punishable by death. This is such a "peaceful religion" Islam.
      8. Current 72
        Current 72 7 January 2014 23: 48
        +5
        I put you minus Sergey32. For the fact that you did not delve into the article written by this WOMAN Elizabeth Kameneva. This is a cry from the soul of a simple person, and not from an indifferent layman! May God grant that we all become so indifferent !!!
    2. domokl
      domokl 6 January 2014 16: 01
      +12
      Quote: major071
      . Shameful, painful and bitter.

      Here, under these words, I will subscribe. And the article strikes more by feelings, someone calls somewhere again ...
      And why? Now I’ll sit and whine, how terrible it has become to live? Well, no. that some new tenants appeared in the next apartment, but I don’t care ... I’m not an informer. Something is going wrong in the basement of the neighboring house. I’m not an informer ... Drug addicts made a nest in the entrance, the main thing is that my there were no children there ...
      There is no war now ... Everyone is just killing us. And we portray democracy and tolerance. We do not approach a person who has fallen on the street, because he may not be sick, but drunk ... We do not grab for the handle of the boy or girl who is going to cross the road into the red light, not ours .. Parents are to blame for not being taught ...
      So, we deserve what is happening now ... Nature will discover all this indifferent mass of homo sopiens and real humanity will come in its place, consisting of MAN, and not of people ...
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 16: 58
        +8
        And the article has more feelings ...

        And it’s impossible to stir up indifferent people in any other way, just by hitting them with feelings. Everything else has already flooded with fat indifference.
      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik 6 January 2014 18: 37
        +3
        you can’t sit back
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      4. michajlo
        michajlo 9 January 2014 21: 28
        0
        domokl (2) RU January 6, 2014 16:01
        Quote: major071
        . Shameful, painful and bitter.

        Here, under these words, I will subscribe. And the article strikes more by feelings, someone calls somewhere again ...
        Why? Now I’m going to sit and whine, how terrible it has become to live? Well, no. Terrorists therefore feel at ease, because we all care about a light bulb.The only thing that worries is just that I do not end up there...And that some new tenants appeared in the next apartment, but I don’t care ... I’m not an informer. Something is wrong in the basement of a neighboring house. I am not an informer ... Drug addicts made a nest in the entrance the main thing is that my children should not be there ...
        There is no war now ... We are simply being destroyed by everyone who is not lazy. And we portray democracy and tolerance. MWe don’t approach the person who fell on the street,because he may not be sick, but drunk ... We do not grab the hand of a boy or girl who is going to cross the road to a red lightnot ours ..Parents are to blame for not being taught ...
        So, we deserve what is happening now ... Nature will discover all this indifferent mass of homo sopiens and real humanity will come in its place, consisting of MAN, and not of people ...


        Hello, Alexander!

        I agree with your conclusions and thoughts.

        From myself I will add the following.
        The fashionable now "indifference of us all to others" is dangerous and deadly, especially when you consider the result of "today's indifference" will manifest itself and SHOOT tomorrow and the day after tomorrow.

        To the author of the article, the woman Elizabeth, a big PLUS from me and THANKS.
        She said and WELL wrote about many common troubles and OUR losses.

        The view and opinion of a woman, mother, grandmother US men are always needed and useful, regardless of whether we agree with the man or not.
    3. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 6 January 2014 19: 16
      +9
      And I have 4 children, what should I tell them? 2 of them are not 5 years old! I have to say about this? For them, this Santa Claus a week ago, like the light in the window and I have to cancel everything? Everything that happened, it brings a dull anger in the soul - to find and break it! But these people didn’t want to celebrate. and everyone will be found!
      1. I am
        I am 6 January 2014 22: 56
        -2
        The unity of the PEOPLE is expressed not only in the holiday - grub and companionship. Yes, the holidays should be canceled at the state level !!!! You can’t eat and have fun while our citizens have just died a terrible death. In their place could be anyone !!!!! And I and YOU and everyone else !!!!! Feast in Time of Plague !!!!!!!
        PEOPLE KILLED !!!!!! And only non-humans sculpt such excuses. If you can’t explain such simple things to children, what kind of person are you ????? And if someone from your relatives were killed ???? Would also celebrate ??????? Children will grow up and repay the same, not seeing anything reprehensible. Well, if you think that you deserve that during your funeral, someone sang and danced, then I and many, MANY others consider this to be koschismism .........
        1. ytqnhfk
          ytqnhfk 6 January 2014 23: 58
          +6
          This is not an excuse, but a point of view! I’m the same person as you, and maybe even more worried about the homeland and what’s happening in it, but putting each person above all smacks of liberal rotten meat in the West in the name of minorities bends the majority! You roll to it! And I wrote about my attitude to what happened, but I didn’t take the holiday away from my children and didn’t go anywhere and remembered everyone! The perception of the children is much different because the adult I remember began to frighten with radiation because this fear lived in me for a long time father situation with this infection! I’m not afraid of the terrorists and I won’t scare my children with them! And you need to be less hysterical and behave like a man!
          1. sergey32
            sergey32 7 January 2014 00: 17
            +3
            Well, why should a beautiful red-haired girl act like a man? Not for this we love them.
            1. I am
              I am 7 January 2014 12: 56
              +3
              That's why I'm beautiful, so independent, for now. And my behavior ...... I already wrote my dd fought in Stalingrad. And they didn’t fight so that we, moreover, would swallow everything that happened meekly, BUT !!!!!! without even thinking about what was happening, they went to celebrate. The belly wins.
        2. I am
          I am 7 January 2014 12: 54
          0
          AND !!! Naminusovat !!! So I thought !!! The belly wins. Well, celebrate, only then do not be amazed ...... Why be surprised, read above. As an example, the states - the houses of adjacent ones - experiments on those located there, etc. Western lifestyle forever !!!!!
          Dallas plan in action ..... alas and ah.
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    5. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 8 January 2014 01: 20
      +2
      Quote: major071
      I will subscribe to every word of the author. Shameful, painful and bitter ...


      And I would not subscribe to every word, even in the war the New Year was celebrated.
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 6 January 2014 15: 14
    +15
    pierced the "armor" of cynicism by the author. I didn't put the tree down, but I took off the garlands from the windows.
    1. ran42
      ran42 8 January 2014 21: 28
      0
      A great movie, beautiful young faces, the color of the nation, but please pay attention to their rifles: this is an old training weapon and it cannot shoot. In battle, they are doomed to death.
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 January 2014 21: 38
        +2
        Quote: ran42
        In battle, they are doomed to death.
        You have a keen eye, from the entire video see a frame with training rifles. But do not admit that this is a group of members of OSAVIAHIM?
  3. mad
    mad 6 January 2014 15: 14
    +32
    I do not agree with the author, maybe in Moscow and in the liberal media the tragedy was eclipsed by NG holidays, but in the rest of Russia they worried and sympathized with the whole Volgograd residents!
    1. domokl
      domokl 6 January 2014 16: 03
      +7
      Quote: mad
      but in the rest of Russia they worried and sympathized with the Volgograd residents with all their hearts!

      I can’t say about the whole of Russia, but in our city the holiday was really quieter than usual ... So I agree with you ...
      1. vezunchik
        vezunchik 6 January 2014 18: 39
        +3
        I agree, there are few people in the streets in Saratov ...
        1. I am
          I am 6 January 2014 22: 57
          +2
          Oh, and I'm from Saratov. )))))))
          1. ty60
            ty60 8 January 2014 03: 18
            +1
            I, too, all at home, at midnight, petards. 15 minutes, and again all home. Until January 3rd, the street is empty.
      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik 6 January 2014 18: 39
        +1
        I agree, there are few people in the streets in Saratov ...
      3. I am
        I am 6 January 2014 22: 57
        0
        Yes, and with us too. Although Fireworks were arranged, there was no wide celebration with festivities.
  4. A.YARY
    A.YARY 6 January 2014 15: 36
    +26
    QUOTE
    Today, no one will believe and agree that the Iron Curtain, especially the information curtain, protected the people from extinction and from direct destruction.

    I already once wrote that the "Iron Curtain" was a gift of fate for us. By the way, the erroneousness of this "curtain" was later recognized by the enemies of our country. It protected us from the influence of all those fecal waters that gushed with the fall of the socialist country. The Iron Curtain "could be given to any bastard. And let it live there in its stall. And it would be easier with terrorists, and the highest measure of social protection should not have been canceled."
    But today we are "floundering" in the stinking sticky slurry that has flooded the country.
    STALINGRAD IS NOT THE FIRST!
    Recall the bombings of houses in Dagestan.
    The killing of border guards.
    "Nord-Ost"
    Train explosions.
    Killed school in Ossetia
    Maternity hospital Budyonovsk
    Attacks throughout the Caucasus, ongoing from the end of the eighties.
    And now STALINGRAD.

    A low bow to the guys picking out ticks in the mountains and cities!
    Let them measure life for a long century.
    Memory to the heroes covering up the people!

    But those who are sitting in their offices ........
    1. domokl
      domokl 6 January 2014 16: 16
      +14
      Andrei, what did those who are in the offices didn’t do? Didn’t react to the neighbors' signals about the appearance of new renters in the apartments? Didn’t they tell the policeman about the suspicious people and the house?
      It’s good to blame the officials. They’re so used to being guilty of everything that they don’t even respond to fair criticism .. But why? They’ll still be guilty ... The cold snap-the officials are to blame, the flood - they are the same ... I got drunk as pig, fell in the cold and froze limbs-death officials ...
      All this nonsense ... Our indifference is guilty and our position is My hut from the edge ...
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 6 January 2014 16: 40
        +11
        Everyone is to blame - And first of all, those who are sitting in the offices, and only then our indifference.
        1. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 6 January 2014 17: 18
          +6
          Quote: AleksUkr
          Everyone is to blame - And first of all, those who are sitting in the offices, and only then our indifference.

          I agree with you:
          Enough is enough for the absolute triumph of evil - so that good people do nothing ........ Edmun Burke.
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 6 January 2014 19: 11
            0
            Quote: ziqzaq
            Enough is enough for the absolute triumph of evil - so that good people do nothing ........ Edmun Burke.

            So what to do? Respond to evil with even greater evil? I just asked. hi
            1. gigiperfetto
              gigiperfetto 6 January 2014 23: 52
              +3
              As an option: enter into some kind of patriotic union (at your discretion) and engage in political education hi
            2. gigiperfetto
              gigiperfetto 6 January 2014 23: 52
              0
              As an option: enter into some kind of patriotic union (at your discretion) and engage in political education hi
            3. Elizabeth
              7 January 2014 14: 47
              +4
              Woke up myself, wake a neighbor!
        2. max73
          max73 6 January 2014 19: 00
          +1
          Is everyone to blame? ... oh ... everything is, then, nobody. let's blame everything on officials and others .. have you tried to start with yourself? Why didn't you accuse the site administration of not ringing the bells or blowing the trumpets for several days in a row? who, for example, prevented you from starting such a discussion on the forum as a creative entity and personality? ... he worked, if that ... there are a lot of materials and comments for something today, either shine with pathos and "exercises in verbiage" or throw hats again ... I want meaningful conversations ...
      2. A.YARY
        A.YARY 6 January 2014 16: 42
        +6
        Alexander good afternoon
        Why? Anyway, they will remain guilty ..

        Will stay .....
        Remain .....?
        And under Stalin, would they have "remained"?
        Would they be reprimanded?
        Would their bonuses be stripped?
        Have they lowered their posts?
        Would you be fired from work?
        How do you think, Alexander, they would "stay"?
        1. domokl
          domokl 6 January 2014 17: 32
          +7
          Quote: A.YARY
          And under Stalin, would they have "remained"?

          And under Stalinegde, there would be a neighbor who did not inform the terrorist about the neighbor in time, where would the driver of the car be, who would bring the future terrorist? Where would everyone be who committed the attack? And not only, or rather, not so much from the offices as from the seats ...
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      3. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 03: 28
        +1
        Remarkably, the opera on duty for half an hour Asks who called, the address, home and mobile phone numbers and only then begins to find out, why are they worried? The car is standing for two months. Tomorrow the whole government of the region will come to this place to open, all the cars will park around it. The answer is ridiculous. We struck it on accounting. Yes, you can’t vouch for yours; everything is opened, but you can load the nine in the trunk
  5. makarov
    makarov 6 January 2014 15: 43
    -2
    "" In this regard, I recalled a case from my school life when I was almost kicked out of the Komsomol. The whole great country was then discussing the feat of the tractor driver, who died saving the collective farm tractor. Schoolchildren wrote essays on a given topic according to a given scheme. It was always difficult for me to fit into the given schemes, and in my essay it was said that all the tractors of the Soviet Union are not worth one life of the tractor driver Anatoly ... "

    The author of the park, or in the heat of emotion was mistaken. It was not about a certain "Anatolia", but about the hero-tractor driver Pyotr Dyakov. In honor of his feat, the song "Give us Petrusha on a tractor" was even written. The only trick is that he survived after setting fire to him and the tractor with his fists. The fists were shot, Petrusha was made a national hero, only after a while, on his deathbed, he admitted that the tractor had set fire to himself through negligence when handling an open fire, and fearing to be held responsible for the destruction of collective farm property, he incriminated innocent people, and all his life he was tormented by this , even the glory of the hero could not burn out the vile deed from his soul.
    1. domokl
      domokl 6 January 2014 16: 11
      +21
      laughing And here I will allow myself to argue ... The fact is that I also wrote this essay ... And not Dyakova .. It was in the 70s. The tractor driver saw that the collective farm field was on fire and rushed to plow it on the tractor to save the rest of the bread. But a gust of wind and the tractor caught fire and the tractor burned out ... So you are wrong hi
      1. makarov
        makarov 6 January 2014 16: 41
        0
        Everything is much easier to explain. At the time indicated by you, I did not study at school, after graduating at the age of 16 I went to work at the factory ..
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 6 January 2014 16: 12
      +15
      Quote: makarov
      Fists were shot, Petrusha made a national hero

      Your comment is quite in the spirit of Gorbachev's perestroika! And Alexander Matrosov "slipped" in front of the bunker and Talalikhin "failed" to control the aircraft ...
      There are no heroes in your country in your opinion ...
      1. makarov
        makarov 6 January 2014 16: 34
        -5
        "There are heroes in your Fatherland according to yours."

        Yes, do not worry you. Here I am, here, with you on the site smile
      2. shuhartred
        shuhartred 6 January 2014 19: 15
        +11
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Quote: makarov
        Fists were shot, Petrusha made a national hero

        Your comment is quite in the spirit of Gorbachev's perestroika! And Alexander Matrosov "slipped" in front of the bunker and Talalikhin "failed" to control the aircraft ...
        There are no heroes in your country in your opinion ...

        Yeah, and like that, falling and stumbling, they could not cope by mistake and reached Berlin. Well, what an unorganized nation the Germans shook their head at while shooting at the ruins of the Reichstag.
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 7 January 2014 10: 19
          +1
          Quote: shuhartred
          Yeah, and like that, falling and stumbling, they could not cope by mistake and reached Berlin. Well, what an unorganized nation the Germans shook their head at while shooting at the ruins of the Reichstag.
          eh ...... sorry to phishington there is no dry way ...........
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 7 January 2014 21: 16
          +4
          Quote: shuhartred
          Yeah, and like that, falling and stumbling, they could not cope by mistake and reached Berlin. Well, what an unorganized nation the Germans shook their head at while shooting at the ruins of the Reichstag.

          There is still one thing to remember about one plane for three pilots, and while one pilot went into battle, the other two ran along the ground, and if they killed the first, they hopped onto the plane and continued the battle! And also detachments on airships and penal battalions on hang gliders!
    3. Oh no no no
      Oh no no no 6 January 2014 17: 07
      +6
      The only trick is that he survived after setting his fist on fire with his tractor. Kulakov was shot, Petrusha was made a people's hero, only after a while, on his deathbed, he admitted that the tractor himself was set on fire by negligence when handling open fire, and fearing to be responsible for the destruction of collective farm property, he incriminated innocent people, and suffered all this life , even the glory of the hero could not burn out a vile deed from his soul.


      Some kind of poop draws from your words ...

      Maybe we’ll debunk a very recent hero - he’s stupid because he died, right? could jump out? The other day, the president awarded him posthumously:

      The tragedy with Bair Banzaraktsaev occurred in early September during a flood raging in the region. KamAZ, which was controlled by Bair, slid off the road into the water and sank. The driver tried to save the equipment to the last and, risking his life, did not leave the car.

      The president also met at an evening in Khabarovsk with the soldiers of one of the brigades that strengthened the dam in the city. Half a day the soldiers stood waist-deep in the water and held back sandbags with their hands to prevent the dam from breaking through.

      At the most critical moment, when water literally covered them with their heads, the soldiers raised the banner of their unit and resisted the onslaught of the elements. Their example was then followed by soldiers from other brigades.

      http://lifenews.ru/news/125094
      1. makarov
        makarov 6 January 2014 17: 27
        -8
        "Some kind of poop pulls from your words ..."

        Whoever hurts, he says that.
        I just can’t get upset at you only because you read few books, or other materials, or because of a lack of intelligence. All professions are important, all professions are needed. However, the pie should be baked by the pastry maker, not the shoemaker. Nothing, grow up, and it’s still possible to learn something .... at least to be silent when specific facts are given.
      2. domokl
        domokl 6 January 2014 17: 36
        -3
        Quote: Ay-yay-yay

        At the most critical moment, when water literally covered them with their heads, the soldiers raised the banner of their unit and resisted the onslaught of the elements. Their example was then followed by soldiers from other brigades.

        Beautiful ... Silly, but beautiful ... Like sailors from the Varangian ... Thanks for the link.
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 6 January 2014 19: 18
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          Quote: Ay-yay-yay

          At the most critical moment, when water literally covered them with their heads, the soldiers raised the banner of their unit and resisted the onslaught of the elements. Their example was then followed by soldiers from other brigades.

          Beautiful ... Silly, but beautiful ... Like sailors from the Varangian ... Thanks for the link.

          And nothing is stupid !!! His duty must be fully fulfilled !!! Then everything is fine and will be with us. soldier
      3. Criceta
        Criceta 8 January 2014 01: 16
        +3
        Quote: Ay-yay-yay
        raised up the banner of their unit and resisted the onslaught of the elements



        It’s not clear - did they end up holding a banner or sandbags? If the banner, then what about the bags? And if the bags, then who is the banner?
        Did the other parts also release the bags? What about the elements?
        In short, some kind of crap. By the time Putin arrived, they probably thought up ...
  6. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 6 January 2014 15: 46
    +14
    "- And what is the strength, brother?
    - But what! Money is all power, brother! Money rules the world, and he is stronger, who has more.
    - Well, here you have a lot of money. So what are you going to do?
    - I’ll buy it. All!
    - And me?
    "Great article! Thanks to the author! ...
  7. Bigriver
    Bigriver 6 January 2014 15: 49
    +12
    Put a minus. I will explain why?
    Piled everything up: human pain, the duty of the authorities, complaints about the celebration of the New Year by the country, demographics of the country and outright nonsense like:
    ... Terrorist attacks begin where young people can say: "We must bring down from this country"

    Terrorist attacks take place where external force is unable to influence the external (mainly) policy of the state, on its course. "It's Time to Blame" is from a completely different "opera".
    When, in a certain sequence, some facts from the life of society are given, it becomes clear that the author wants to give us an analysis of the problems and propose a solution to them.
    What does the author suggest?
    ...the time has come really realizethat the security of our future, our children and grandchildren is directly related to the security of the Fatherland, for which each of us has a personal responsibility - who knows how. It's time to get out of hibernation and wake those who are still able wake up, and shout: "Get up, the country is huge!"

    Suppose I realized and I’m not sleeping. Now, after Volgograd, do I have to go out and scream?
    Everyone should do their own thing and if possible better. Shouting is not a thing.
    What is permissible on a personal page on the network looks silly and stupidly in the media. Even the digest type.
    1. Elizabeth
      6 January 2014 20: 20
      +2
      Suppose I realized and I’m not sleeping. Now, after Volgograd, do I have to go out and scream?
      Everyone should do their own thing and if possible better. Shouting is not a thing.
      What is permissible on a personal page on the network looks silly and stupidly in the media. Even the digest type.

      There are so many things that the authorities will not get to soon, if at all. But when we gather for gatherings in our kitchens, a thousand ingenious ideas for rebuilding the world are born and speak out there. Surely in this "thousand" ideas the thought appears: "Even I could do this." But as an unnecessary thing, this thought is sent to the closet with other brilliant ideas that we were going to realize, but somehow it was not enough ...
      But it’s just suggested that you start with yourself, with your family, with your children, to learn and teach them to love their homeland, to see not “the masses”, not “the population”, not “the whole progressive humanity”, but every concrete, even somewhere erring person, big or very small.
    2. Kizhich
      Kizhich 6 January 2014 23: 44
      +2
      Piled everything up: human pain, the duty of the authorities, complaints about the celebration of the New Year by the country, demographics of the country and outright nonsense

      I support BigRiver in his comment. I dare to suggest that the respected author is the sister of Kamenev, (although maybe a wife, daughter?) Who, judging by one style of presentation, is a populist!
    3. ty60
      ty60 8 January 2014 03: 48
      0
      January 3rd. Saratov Station. At the entrances and exits, paired outfit PPP. .Nothing about. It’s possible to blow up the sex of the country. And they rewarded the former minister for the reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, though the former employees sued him for a long time for fighting in Chechnya. Thank you, comrade Nurgaliev
  8. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 6 January 2014 16: 05
    +12
    .. What to do, Elizabeth ..?
    Better, probably, you have more to give birth and sit with the kids!
    1. Elizabeth
      6 January 2014 16: 43
      +5
      Same to you!!!
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 6 January 2014 18: 46
        +3
        .. when we were young boys, and the monument to the current was opened, then "Mom" did not seem to us, as you write, "a frozen block of stone." She looked for us a rather erotic aunt .. Maybe with birth rate, therefore, there were no problems! love
  9. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 January 2014 16: 07
    +21
    Ha. And when there were the first and second Chechen wars. was it wrong? In Grozny, our fighters were kneaded, and in Msk the same Chechens thundered in taverns with our brothers. And then, and now, when a crowd of Caucasians kneads Russian, everyone else is trying to slip by quickly. Maslenitsa wrote correctly, until we start to stand up for each other during any disassembly, they will cut and blow us up. And we will write angry comments and portray mental suffering. And then go out and bow to strangers who cut us like sheep and earn money for us. You have to start with yourself. If the Russians start to stand up for each other at any ramse, no 282 article will help the policemen and the diasporas who bought them. I do not call for rebellion, for a night of white knives. Because it is like a surge, another reason for the authorities to tighten the nuts. Here we must understand for ourselves that we are stronger than them and that we can bury them. And they feel that way even without words.
    1. ty60
      ty60 8 January 2014 03: 58
      +1
      It’s absolutely true. All the diasporas that have come to us survive thanks to rallying. Anyway, who is right, they beat our people. It’s time we don’t hesitate to get involved in such a showdown. Today I’ll pass by, tomorrow you ... Well, I already see, you won’t pass by .This is not a call to beat everyone and everything. And just to LEVEL the chances.
  10. sashka
    sashka 6 January 2014 16: 10
    +8
    All of this, of course, is correctly spelled .. But again this is BUT .. After the adoption of all last year’s laws, I can arrest you for any reason. For gathering more than two, for smoking, for any statement for or against yes for anything. Just because you will declare yourself Russian in the square. Even the picket connected with Volgograd was dispersed and arrested. And you say Where? Putin knows where ... And we know, but you can’t say it will be extremism or a call to it or religious and national intolerance. Urry !! or yes, it all went to the end ..
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 6 January 2014 16: 27
      +5
      this is the point. and unfortunately the terrorist attacks will occur, because some people need this both in our country and abroad. such is the global trend, and the lives of ordinary people cost nothing to those in power.
  11. CALL.
    CALL. 6 January 2014 16: 23
    +12
    Twenty years of forcibly implanting the barnyard liberalism ideology alien to us (-living here and now-, -I owe nothing to anyone-) are giving results. The so-called free world churns out the consciousness of people even cleaner than under “totalitarianism”. Furthermore! He makes it much more sophisticated (using everything from advertisements and movies to mass zombies at concerts), and he churns out @ lyuds. Do you remember how we laughed at the naive lines “When the country orders to be a hero, anybody becomes a hero here!”? But now we can say: "The media are ordering you to be with @Lud." @Luds are easier to control than heroes. For the latter, one must be a hero oneself, and this ... is possible if the "elite" consider themselves to be part of their own people, and the country they lead as their first and only homeland.
    Fortunately, it is at an unconscious level that the formation of national self-consciousness and patriotic consciousness takes place. And the events of autumn, during the flood in the Far East, showed this very vividly. Patriotism is inherent in most people who are passionaries of the peoples of Russia, and the years of the great trials of the Great Patriotic War proved this. Only patriots are not allowed on TV, giving out the ideology of @ people as the ideology of the people.
    Once again, fortunately, the situation is changing a little. And it pleases.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 6 January 2014 16: 31
      +5
      "Only patriots are not allowed on TV, passing off the ideology of the kovs as the ideology of the people."

      who won't let you in? and on state channels is not it full of "patriots" pozners, pigs? And in cinemas, do not “patriotic” Stalingrad, tired of the sun, go to the cinemas? And are we not ruled by the "patriotic" United Russia and Medvedev and his boss?
  12. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 6 January 2014 16: 39
    +6
    It seems to me that it will be more correct, STAND UP RUSSIAN PEOPLE !!!! Like in the film, Alexander Nevsky.
    1. sashka
      sashka 7 January 2014 03: 27
      +4
      Moscow, January 4. The State Duma will consider in the first reading a bill that prohibits the use of the word “Russia” and the phrase “Russian Federation” when holding non-governmental events and awarding various non-governmental prizes and titles, Rossiyskaya Gazeta reports .http: //mir24.tv/news/politics/ 9634478

      Actually what kind of Patriotism can we talk about? What kind of national identity? And you say ..
    2. sashka
      sashka 7 January 2014 03: 27
      +2
      Moscow, January 4. The State Duma will consider in the first reading a bill that prohibits the use of the word “Russia” and the phrase “Russian Federation” when holding non-governmental events and awarding various non-governmental prizes and titles, Rossiyskaya Gazeta reports .http: //mir24.tv/news/politics/ 9634478

      Actually what kind of Patriotism can we talk about? What kind of national identity? And you say ..
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 7 January 2014 13: 41
        +3
        It is necessary to follow the course of events: now there are various private organizations that distribute orders and medals of their own making to these clients for the money of clients, and there are their own prices for those awards, and the amount of gold and stones in the order depends on them. And if in such orders it is forbidden to use the words Russia and the Russian Federation, then what's wrong with that? it would be necessary to announce the confiscation of awards with such words that have already been handed out to oligarchs and other bastards. Before criticizing, you need to understand the essence of the problem. Isn't it a shame that for the money you can buy yourself an order with the inscription "Hero of the Russian Federation"?
  13. PValery53
    PValery53 6 January 2014 16: 39
    -4
    "Prevent the birth of 3 or more children" non-titles ", and by all means help the birth of 3 or more children - Russians! - Russians are the basis of the Russian state !!! - Who is" against "-" judge! "
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 6 January 2014 19: 31
      +9
      Quote: PValery53
      "Prevent the birth of 3 or more children" non-titles "

      Will you shoot or castrate? You are just a screamer and not the smartest one. For the umpteenth time I repeat all those who live in Russia are Russians, who disagree - we do not hold goodbye. Judge me and throw cons, but this is my opinion. Let me remind you, the Germans of our prisoners in the camps, they called all Russians.
      1. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 04: 05
        0
        Russian Jews in both Germany and Israel are called RUSSIAN
    2. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 7 January 2014 13: 57
      +4
      Why are you sniffing? Prohibit giving birth and to whom? Can then force men to give birth when his wife does not want to give birth to a third child. Where can we get the janitors for Moscow, from the homeless who now live in basements? If your mind is drunk, then cut it in: since ancient times, "Russian" is education in the Russian spirit, not birth! Even Svyatoslav "having visited" Byzantium returned with an army of slaves freed by him, they all settled in Rus (note: what "in Ukraine" we were forbidden to speak) and in which of us does not blood flow, perhaps such slaves? Or do you have a desire to limit Russia within the 12th century? It is necessary to educate: I can say that in Soviet times he worked as a Georgian in "Severonikel", a master of casting and an order bearer (oh, TKZ), so he moved from Georgia, and was not born in the RSFSR, but called himself only Russian and when he was asked: "Why don't you return to the North to Georgia? " he always replied: "I tried it does not work. I am now Russian and even on vacation I can not be in Georgia for more than two weeks." That's what "Russian" is.
      1. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 04: 08
        +3
        This is a state of mind. And that's all. I agree with him.
  14. rocketman
    rocketman 6 January 2014 16: 52
    +5
    And I added the article. Cry from the heart. Elizabeth may not be strong in strategy, but she wrote from the heart. Remember Jeanne D "Ark - they say she was an illiterate peasant woman, but managed to ignite everyone to fight the invaders. At least Elizabeth made her choice. And we?
  15. kaktus
    kaktus 6 January 2014 16: 57
    +5
    "For the country of Spain, for its president and for its guests, what happened was a common pain. Any of us who traveled this metro line every day could be in these subway cars."

    Spain is not a republic, but a monarchy.
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 17: 06
      +2
      Well, a woman was mistaken in calling the king president. The essence of this has not changed - head of state.
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 8 January 2014 08: 49
        -1
        Tsar of All Russia Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin "with comrades" and K "from the Kremlin. Wow a mistake!
  16. Oh no no no
    Oh no no no 6 January 2014 16: 58
    +5
    On the day of the tragedy, the country's president and his wife arrived in the city. Such an impression was created that every citizen of the country entrusted to him is important for the president. For the country of Spain, for its president and for its guests, what happened was a common pain. In these subway cars could be any of us who traveled this metro line every day.


    How touching! However, the author forgot to mention, setting us in the tearful example of the Spaniards of 2006, that after the terrorist attack in Madrid in 2004 they cowardly followed the terrorists and brought to power a pacifist government that first withdrew troops from Iraq, leaving there -No allies!
  17. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 6 January 2014 17: 01
    +5
    The author awakens a sense of self-awareness in us: who we are. Great advantage. We will become more attentive. The West and its allies from the Gulf tirelessly hit Russia. Russians, be vigilant!
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 17: 07
      +5
      Russians, be vigilant!

      Russians, be careful!
  18. GSH-18
    GSH-18 6 January 2014 17: 03
    +4
    Quote from the article: "I do not understand anything about military anti-terrorist special operations. Perhaps everything is being done correctly and in a timely manner. Perhaps, victims cannot be avoided."
    Article-scream of the soul. Unfortunately, there is little to do with the goals, methods, tasks of terrorism and counteraction to it. Very sorry for the dead people. However, all-Russian mourning during the New Year holidays was one of the main goals of the scum who killed our compatriots.
    ================================================== ============================
    Quote from the article: "Nevertheless, it's time for all ordinary people to understand that a people's war has been going on for a long time, a war against a specific people - against you and me!"
    There is a war on terrorism, respected author, and this war is not easy for everyone. The country solves many urgent problems by renewing the army, rebuilding the economy, building oil and gas infrastructure (so that there is money to move forward), conducting large-scale international events of all kinds (restoring the image), and resisting constant attempts to undermine the economy, society, and foreign policy interests (which could not resist at the time of the USSR).
    From your article, you might think that EVERYTHING is bad, and US has no future. I want to declare you responsibly, do not wait! yes
  19. demotivator
    demotivator 6 January 2014 17: 04
    +8
    ... there was a tragedy in the subway that claimed 41 lives. These days, the World Families Meeting took place in Valencia. Summer, sea, bright colors, holiday, millions of guests, mainly young families with children, in national costumes representing different countries and continents. Not to universal mourning. People arrived for the holiday! And there was general mourning there, all the flags with black ribbons were lowered, entertainment events were canceled. But mourning has become a banner of unity. On the day of the tragedy, the country's president and his wife arrived in the city. Such an impression was created that every citizen of the country entrusted to him is important for the president. For the country of Spain, for its president and for its guests, what happened was a common pain.

    In Spain, the death of 41 people is a tragedy for the whole country. And nationwide mourning for the dead united the whole country. Unfortunately, this did not work out for us. Neither nationwide mourning, nor the restrictions of boorish many-day New Year's entertainment on TV - as the show pop-byd_o danced, and still dances, has not been. Many, by and large, found it easier to give a damn about people's grief.
    1. Oh no no no
      Oh no no no 6 January 2014 17: 45
      +2
      Many, by and large, found it easier to give a damn about people's grief.


      Have you celebrated New Year with your family ???

      What do you all give us as an example of Europeans? Deeply adored by you Spaniards knelt before the terrorists in 2004 - or forgot? And as for the cited example in the Valencia metro, which claimed the lives of 41 people, this is not an entirely successful example: it was not a terrorist attack, but elementary negligence - doubling the speed, and mourning was declared only in the province, and not throughout the country, as you say:

      The reason for the crash of a subway train in the Spanish city of Valencia was a gross violation of the speed limit ... at the moment when the train derailed, its speed was twice the permissible speed on this section, as evidenced by the data obtained during the decoding of the "black box" of the crashed train ... So, instead of the permitted 40 kilometers per hour, the train moved at a speed of 80 kilometers per hour.

      A train crash in the Valencian subway on July 3, 2006 resulted in the death of 41 passengers. 4th of July five minutes of silence declared in Spain in memory of the victims of the disaster, and the authorities of Valencia declared a three-day mourning in the city and province.

      http://lenta.ru/news/2006/07/04/overspeed/


      Therefore, it is more appropriate to compare the tragedy in Valencia with ordinary car crashes, from which in Russia, according to the official. statistics every day about 100 people die!
  20. tomket
    tomket 6 January 2014 17: 05
    +5
    On the eve of the New Year, controversy broke out on Mayak after the explosions in Volgograd. If the first presenters were unanimous in the opinion that there could not be a holiday now, and the New Year should become a commemoration in the context of the whole country, then the presenters who took over for them on the broadcast watch agreed, they say, abandoning Olivier with champagne and festive programs for tv, we thereby follow the lead of the terrorists. They say they blown up people wanted to ruin their appetite. Such are the bad terrorists.
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 17: 13
      +6
      When a stomach is chosen between the soul and the stomach, this is an example of scotching.
      To call it more precisely, you can only use an obscene word.
      1. tomket
        tomket 6 January 2014 17: 25
        +4
        Well, so many presenters on radio and TV are worse than hvoreojach.
    2. Oh no no no
      Oh no no no 6 January 2014 18: 10
      +2
      But, for example, in Saudi Arabia and Tajikistan it was forbidden to celebrate the New Year: http://www.km.ru/world/2013/12/30/prazdniki-v-rossii-i-za-rubezhom/729120-v-saud
      ovskoi-aravii-i-tadzhikistane-zapreti - but doesn’t this mean anything?

      The situation with this New Year's scent was provoked by the authorities, who declared mourning from January 1 to 3 - and it looked really, to put it mildly, strange. They needed a second attack to make the right decision - and that was probably on command from Moscow. But the sediment remained ...
      1. sashka
        sashka 7 January 2014 05: 37
        +3
        Quote: Ay-yay-yay
        in Saudi Arabia and Tajikistan banned to celebrate the New Year: http://www.km.ru/world/2013/12/30/prazdniki-v-rossii-i-za-rubezhom/729120-v-saud

        Well, Catholic Christmas is also not "our" holiday.
        They just have their own traditions that they don’t want to forget. On March 21, he is Navruz (Spring Festival) and they don’t need Santa Claus
        (if only for something to burn a scarecrow). I see no reason to panic. Perhaps in Africa they do not know about the New Year at all, and now what?
        1. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 7 January 2014 14: 09
          +1
          But after all, our that New Year, it is the Catholic celebration of the circumcision of an infant, which was carried out on the eighth day, by the way, doctors say that on the eighth day from birth, wounds heal much faster than on all other days. Christ was born according to the solar calendar from 24 to 25 December. and the circumcision took place from 31dec. on Jan 1. According to the Orthodox calendar, birth is from January 6-7 according to the Lunar calendar, and circumcision from January 13-14, "Old New Year" should be replaced by "Orthodox year from the Nativity of Christ." Celebrating Catholic circumcision, are you celebrating Catholic Christmas? Otherwise, it turns out: first we celebrate circumcision with fireworks, and then the Birth of the same Jesus Christ.
  21. alone
    alone 6 January 2014 17: 14
    +10
    A woman can be understood! Any of us may become the next victim of sick fanatics tomorrow! But, at the same time, we do not need to divide our citizens into friends and foes because of fanatics.
    This is the first goal of the terrorists. To divide the society and rule the ball !!
    1. I am
      I am 6 January 2014 23: 15
      +2
      capacious and accurate !!!
  22. Boris63
    Boris63 6 January 2014 17: 16
    +5
    Unfortunately, the war on terrorism cannot be obvious, and as such a PEOPLE, it is impossible to raise up for this war, but the PEOPLE can help in this "hidden" war with their civil position. The death of a person is always grief: he died in battle or during a ter. Act, but life does not stop there. We must continue to LIVE, to the death of enemies, and try to do so that the trouble does not happen again.
  23. onegin61
    onegin61 6 January 2014 17: 16
    +7
    The police, the FSB and others, there are many times more of them than the army, are beaten or not quite in the tails, the district police are a completely separate issue, but the deceased guy (policeman) fell under the distribution, there was nowhere to go. A systemic failure, as indeed everywhere else in other spheres, only the "explosions" are different. Has anyone been punished for not revealing them, or have they left their posts themselves? The system does not work, everyone gasped and stayed in their "places", because it is repeated more than once.
  24. Vadim12
    Vadim12 6 January 2014 17: 26
    +5
    In recent years, people have really become callous, cynical. Maybe the media affect a person like that? Or education, or rather its absence under Fursenko?
    1. waisson
      waisson 6 January 2014 19: 05
      +2
      Amer’s democracy and Euro-blue cynicism affect
  25. Luga
    Luga 6 January 2014 17: 27
    +7
    I did not put a plus. I will try to explain. Very emotionally, too densely peppered with patriotism, pain and indignation. For the same reasons, I did not set a minus.
    Literally for every paragraph you can argue.
    By the methods of celebrating NG during the days of mourning, the whole country was waiting for the holiday, the children were waiting for Santa Claus, gifts and fireworks. Each child has only a few chances (two, three, rarely five) for his whole life to celebrate the New Year at a conscious age, but with faith in a miracle. To deprive them of this because of the actions of several scum is cruel. Moreover, it was precisely on this effect that they counted on, to arrange general mourning for the country, and to allow them to achieve their bestial goals.
    For the same reason, it seems to me completely inappropriate, in this case, arithmetic in the style of "more or less 34".
    Discussions about abortion and contraceptives are everyone’s personal point of view, but they hardly have anything to do with the topic of terrorist attacks. Yes, we do not breed at the same speed as they do, we slowly but surely retreat from occupied and inhabited territories, but this is an occasion rather for us to put on a shahid belt than for them. They win, anyway, for now.
    If there are fireworks on the night from 31 to 1 "at the time of the plague," then the parade in Moscow in November 41 will be the same.
    As for Valencia, he never considered anyone an absolute role model for Russia. However, I think that if the attack had not happened under NG, but on the day of the G20 summit, or on the day of Peter and Fevronia, mourning would have been declared all over the country.
    Everyone decides for himself the question "what is more expensive than life or a tractor". To give an unambiguous answer to it, especially in favor of life, means to generate a lot of questions like "life or a tank", "life or a destroyed enemy tank." That guy decided the tractor was more expensive. Everlasting memory. Many would have decided otherwise. This is everyone's choice.
    "There is a people's war"? It goes on all the time. And in the 10th century and in the 13th, 17th, 20th, now in the 21st, and it will never end. And now is not the most difficult moment in our history, compared to the arrival of the Mongols or the time of troubles, revolution and civil war.
    "Get up, the country is huge!" Well, let's get up. Where next? With the Russian march to the Kremlin? With a punitive raid on the Caucasus or on the nearest vegetable warehouse? A war against the emirates or the states? Or will we just stand and disperse so that everyone is scared? Even among members of the forum there is no consensus, what can we say about Russia as a whole.
    Then, in 41st, it was clear where to go. Therefore, "Get up, the country is huge"!

    In general, emotions, emotions, emotions ... But the minus is still not set, these are the right emotions. wink
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 18: 00
      +7
      ... the children were waiting for Santa Claus, gifts and fireworks. Each child has only a few chances (two, three, rarely five) for his whole life to celebrate the New Year at a conscious age, but with faith in a miracle. To deprive them of this because of the actions of several scum is cruel.

      We are not talking about depriving children of the holiday. The point is that adults could celebrate less "noisily". The broadcasting network on TV could have been changed, to remove completely outright obscenity and insane films.
      For the same reason, it seems to me completely inappropriate, in this case, arithmetic in the style of "more or less 34".

      Arithmetic is appropriate here - not only men and women died, their children died, who would never be born again. Maybe they’re not born geniuses. That's what Lisa wants to tell us.
      Discussions about abortion and contraceptives are everyone’s personal point of view, but they hardly have anything to do with the topic of terrorist attacks. Yes, we do not breed at the same speed as they do, we slowly but surely retreat from occupied and inhabited territories, but this is an occasion rather for us to put on a shahid belt than for them. They win, anyway, for now.

      This is already obvious nonsense!
      If there are fireworks on the night from 31 to 1 "at the time of the plague," then the parade in Moscow in November 41 will be the same.

      Do not mix the disparate into a heap - the parade in 41 was the banner of our determination to survive and win.
      А rampant fun and fireworks after such a tragedy a sign of what?
      Everyone decides for himself the question "what is more expensive than life or a tractor". To give an unambiguous answer to it, especially in favor of life, means to generate a lot of questions like "life or a tank", "life or a destroyed enemy tank."

      A tractor is not worth the human life. You can make a new tractor, but a person? Will we also treat a person as a replacement part? Like, it doesn’t matter, women still give birth. We will not give birth for this. We will give birth for life, for love, for work. And to protect the homeland. But not in order to save not people, but glands.
      1. Luga
        Luga 6 January 2014 22: 11
        +1
        Most of your objections can also be challenged.
        Quote: Kahlan Amnell
        to remove absolutely frank abomination and foolish films.

        Are you sure that you and I and most of our compatriots have the same idea of ​​what is obscenity? And do you really admit that entertainment programs from this category can appear on TV on ordinary days? It's less "noisy" to celebrate - that is, "let's have fun, but not much", so what?
        Quote: Kahlan Amnell
        Arithmetic is appropriate here.

        That is, adding up all the victims, including those not born, we get "more than 34" and, accordingly, a nationwide mourning on New Year's Eve? Arithmetic is, after all, out of place here.
        Quote: Kahlan Amnell
        This is already obvious nonsense!

        Take the trouble to substantiate if you do not agree. Such harsh statements are in themselves unpleasant, and without appropriate reasoning they are more reminiscent of insults. And insults do not paint, first of all, insults.
        Quote: Kahlan Amnell
        Do not mix disparate into a bunch

        Here I partially agree. The comparison may not be very correct. A football match in besieged Leningrad would probably fit more. But the matter is not in the examples; you must understand this.
        Quote: Kahlan Amnell
        We will give birth for life, for love, for work. And to protect the homeland.

        And to defend the homeland also with an eye to the value of a single life? I wrote that everyone chooses for himself. That guy chose. Some of us also had to choose. And to someone and make such a choice for others - to send to protect the homeland to death, which is much more complicated. You made a choice between tractor and life, not being in that specific situation. I cannot do this, but I do not dispute your right.
        1. Kahlan amnell
          Kahlan amnell 6 January 2014 23: 49
          +3
          Discussions about abortion and contraceptives are everyone’s personal point of view, but they hardly have anything to do with the topic of terrorist attacks.

          Introducing into the people the idea of ​​the murder of their own children, the widespread use of the means for this, and the conviction of people that there is nothing wrong with such a murder - the embryo, they say, is not yet a man - that this is not a terrorist act against an entire nation? Moreover, it is genocide !!!
          Yes, we do not breed at the same speed as they do, we slowly but surely retreat from occupied and inhabited territories, but this is an occasion rather for us to put on a shahid belt than for them.

          In your opinion, it is necessary not only to meekly disappear from the face of the earth, but also to contribute to this by acts of mass self-explosions.
          Let us recall and apply the practice of the Old Believers - mass self-immolations. To rather disappear from their land. So what?
          1. Luga
            Luga 7 January 2014 01: 54
            +1
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            Introducing into the people the idea of ​​the murder of their own children, the widespread use of the means for this, and the conviction of people that there is nothing wrong with such a murder - the embryo, they say, is not yet a man - that this is not a terrorist act against an entire nation? Moreover, it is genocide !!!

            You are talking, rather, about demographic policy, the concept of "terrorist act" is inapplicable here at all, the concept of "genocide" is a stretch. And yet, how could demographic policy affect the events in Volgograd, from which the discussion began?
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            In your opinion, it is necessary not only to meekly disappear from the face of the earth, but also to contribute to this by acts of mass self-explosions.
            Let us recall and apply the practice of the Old Believers - mass self-immolations. To rather disappear from their land. So what?

            If you carefully read my text, these questions will disappear by themselves. Nevertheless, I note that I did not urge to silently and meekly disappear, including in clubs of TNT smoke. In my opinion, terrorism is the weapon of the weak. When smart adults do what they plan and organize stealth attacks on peaceful people, including women and children, this means that they are not ready for an open, masculine struggle, or rather, they do not believe in victory. They recognize themselves weak in advance. But looking at the demographic situation in Russia, I understand that today we are weak. We, those who we are now, can take a lot, and so, without explosions. So I can’t approve of the image of the conditional Vania, blowing up the court, the police or, finally, the hostel with migrant workers, but I can understand. I wanted to say just that. smile
  26. Bombowoz
    Bombowoz 6 January 2014 17: 44
    +4
    Written correctly. But how to fight terrorism with a "Slavic face". Where is the guarantee that tomorrow your son will not blow up something. How to understand this in a timely manner? Introduce surveillance like the US NSA? A total ban on the Internet? They will scream about rights. How else, if you do not suspect everything and everyone? Slogans are good, but methods of dealing with such are needed. Until we learn how to do this, it will be so.
    1. Elizabeth
      6 January 2014 20: 40
      +1
      Where is the guarantee that tomorrow your son will not blow up anything.

      If the son blows up something, then it is either pride (if it is an enemy tank), or a shame for the father if the son blows up unarmed and defenseless.
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 7 January 2014 10: 43
      +3
      Quote: Bombowoz
      ... But how to fight terrorism with a "Slavic face".
      ------ Well, for a start, to return the "Soviet" principles of education and training. I am convinced that all these "educational reforms" played an important role in the emergence of terrorism with a "Slavic face".
  27. demotivator
    demotivator 6 January 2014 17: 48
    +3
    Quote: lonely
    Any of us may become another victim of sick fanatics tomorrow.

    Of course, anyone can become a victim. But the question is - what are the chances of not becoming a victim? If in our country there was a weapon in civil circulation, if the laws allowed us to use it to protect ourselves and our loved ones, would there be fewer or more victims? We often cite the United States as an example, where mass shootings happen periodically: an individual who has rolled off coils goes to where there are unarmed people and arranges mass execution. In mass executions, people die ... Are there many? If we assume that every human life is priceless, then a lot. On average - 16 people a year. Yes, still, at the very beginning I said that every human life is priceless. I lied. Everything has a price. Here I am writing now, and at this time in the Kuzbass mines, for example, they continue to mine coal. One million tons of brown coal, anthracite, or coking coal come at a price. This is the money spent on his extraction and FOUR HUMAN LIVES. The price of 250 tons of coal is money and plus 000 human life.
    In Poland, this price list may be softer, and in North Korea it may be tougher. But the fact remains: having extracted the first million tons of coal, you will pay the bill whether you want it or not.
    The only way to not pay at all is not to mine coal. But neither in Poland, nor in the country of Juche, nor in Ukraine - coal mining is stopped: the society admits that in the name of warm batteries, operating thermal power plants and smoking chimneys of plants - you have to pay the bills, whether you want it or not.
    Public safety also comes at a price. If you think that you trust your people the right to own weapons of self-defense, then get ready to pay the bills that armed madmen will periodically present to you. The US went for it. And they regularly pay the bills: 16 human lives per year. And now the numbers are simple and clear: today the level of murders per 100 thousand people is: - Russia - 10,2; - USA - 4,2; The number of police officers per 100 thousand population is: - Russia - 976 (3rd place in the world, Belarus - 1st place, Ukraine - 5th place. And in the USA - 233.
    1. alone
      alone 6 January 2014 18: 02
      +6
      Well, Mikhail. What can I tell you. So far, in Russia, cases of executions of people are very rare. In America this happens often. Well, let's say, they will give everyone the opportunity to arm themselves and people will start self-defense with their own weapons. Firstly, this is fraught with a great risk. Big shooting will begin. and the country can lose more lives than in terrorist attacks. Secondly, how will a gun help me if a sick person decides to blow himself up? There is nothing. They no longer shout "Allahu Akbar" before the explosion. Yes, and the suicide bombers already consist of the International. Among them are Caucasians and Russians and Buryats.
      In Russia there are a large number of law enforcement forces of various stripes, from the PPP to the FSB. They should protect the people, not ordinary people. They give them money, they get salaries, and many of them have laid their heads on the cause of protecting the people.
      mass arming of people does not solve the problem.
    2. user1212
      user1212 6 January 2014 18: 27
      +3
      Yeah. Compared. Do you really want to live in a city where frostbitten youth are armed with guns? And every second skirmish on the road turns from the words "yes you go to ..." into a firefight? How do you imagine it? We are not the USA. Yes, I agree, with time they will calm down and there will be fewer drunken shootings. But as long as we live up to this, there will be such losses in the country that the two Chechens will seem like child's play to us.
      Well, now by the number of police
      In the United States, as you know, whistleblowing (cooperation with the police) is very widely practiced. There everyone knocks on everyone. If a police officer on the road asks for a bribe, any driver in 30 minutes will roll a statement on the fact of extortion. Are many drivers going to "waste their time" in Russia? I can assure you that if tomorrow I start preparing explosives right in the courtyard of my high-rise building, none of the inhabitants of the house will even move. We live according to the principle "my hut is on the edge."
      For the sake of fairness, I would like to draw your attention to the other side. What happens if I "give a signal" to the police that terrorists are in the next apartment, but it turns out that they are just tangerine dealers? I will be dragged for 3 months by the investigators. Moreover, they will solder a fine and 15 days for hooliganism.
  28. shasherin_pavel
    shasherin_pavel 6 January 2014 18: 07
    +1
    It would be a joy to the terrorists if the whole country was in mourning instead of a holiday, because all this was done only for the sake of this, so that we would all lower our heads and decide that we are all finished now. During the war, on the occasion of the capture of large cities, festive fireworks were made, because for the capture of these cities, thousands of people went to the ground. It goes without saying that the explosions in Volgograd are a tragedy for the whole country, but civilians are dying on the roads of the country because of our carelessness, people die in hospitals, sometimes because of incompetence, sometimes because of the negligence of doctors, and this happens on holidays, and how we look in the eyes of our relatives when we celebrate during their mourning. Who sprinkled ashes on his head, because a child died in the hospital. The more we hear "fair" calls for revenge, the more we descend to the same terrorists. How many of you cried along with the relatives of the "cargo 200" soldiers? Who wasn't watching comedy on TV at the time? Didn't kiss around the corner? As long as there is a country, in the depths of which one third of all the wealth of the planet, until then there will be those who want to tear this wealth away from us, and for this it is necessary to pit us against each other, hating by the shape of our eyes, by the color of our skin, by our religious views. Punitive measures are an area of ​​justice, not lynching.
    Yes, sometimes it is insulting when you study our history that our country was too liberal during the years of Soviet power, and Baltic "SS men" are marching in parades now, who accuse us of cruelty. Former President of Ukraine Kravchuk survived when, in his youth, the Soviet government forgave him for armed resistance in the units of the UPA OUN, accused us of all the sins that are more on his conscience. But is the terrorist attacks a reason for "noble anger", and thus the eradication of all Russian traditions of fraternal relations with those who live close by. Anger is a bad advisor in a multi-family house, and because of a neighbor the boor has no reason to set fire to the whole house, and for one of his apartment and his roof. No lynching for religious views or cut eyes !!! To toughen responsibility for crimes against a person in Russia and to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty! for even the Bible says that "The earth is cleansed by the blood of him that sheds his blood."
    1. officer29
      officer29 6 January 2014 23: 34
      +2
      The ex-president of Ukraine Kravchuk survived when, in his youth, the Soviet government forgave him for armed resistance in the UPA OUN units, accused us of all sins that are more on his conscience.
      Dear, former president of Ukraine Kuchma L.M. could not be a member of the OUN-UPA due to his snotty childhood, in 1941 he was only 7 years old! fool Please read at least Wikipedia! wassat
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 7 January 2014 14: 48
        0
        After the war, Kravchuk was in the unit "The Best Lads of Ukraine" - a youth org. UPA, "Smersh - Purgatory of the Red Army" about Khrushchev on page 287. about Kravchuk on page 288. Your "officer 29" begins with Kravchuk and then about Kuchma, these are two different people. And you don't need to read Wikipedia, but by the age of 7 at 41 add four years of war, and by 1951 he is already 17 years old. For me this is also a revelation.
        That you do not work quote.
        When in the 46th year we reached the level of supra-district leadership, traces reached the Central Committee of Ukraine, headed by Khrushchev. Then they stopped us. Then work on the fight against Bandera in Rivne and Lviv regions was curtailed. p. 187.
        After the death of Stalin, according to Taraskmna, as a result of the amnesty conducted by Khrushchev, all active UPA-OUN participants who returned to their homeland were released. (homeland with a small one, so in the text) In 1950-1960 there was a quiet restoration of the OUN. They began by nominating their people to party and economic posts, there were cases of admission of the advocates of the ideas of the OUN and the political reformers of the OUN to the Komsomol with further career growth (a vivid example is Leonid Kravchuk)
        Shelest, who was until 1972 the first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, hid all this from Moscow.
        All young people were divided into three age groups: 10-12 years old, 13-15 years old and 16-18 years old.
        The future President of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk began his "labor activity" as a scout in the "Hundred Brave Youths" under the special purpose department.
        ... They came with the confession 76 741 Bandera. A total of 153 were killed and 262 Bandera were arrested. Losses of fighters of fighter battalions from 103 to 828 amounted to 1944 people.
        From 1944 to 1953, 65 906 families (203 662 people) were evicted from the territory of the western regions of Ukraine to remote regions of the USSR
        1. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 8 January 2014 09: 13
          +1
          Minus me? Or to the author of the book "Smersh Purgatory of the Red Army" Anatoly Tereshchenko, whom I quoted here? For me personally, after this book, everything fell into place: the supply problems of the partisans, for which Khrushchev was responsible (you can recall Zhukov "Memories and Reflections", when he wrote that after a meager breakfast at Stalin's, he went to Khrushchev, who could always have a good eat). I am writing as a keepsake and therefore cannot mark a page of the book. Didn't he know that the grains transported from one continent to another bear fruit only the first year, and the next year "American corn" does not bear fruit. But he forced him to sow "American corn, the variety of which he liked in America," and the following year, the country introduced cards for white bread. All this is a quiet defeat of the country's industry. The Politburo of the Central Committee at one time raised the issue of removing Khrushchev from the post of first secretary, but Zhukov intervened and defended Khrushchev, after the "corn aggression", the Politburo of the Central Committee took advantage of Khrushchev's departure abroad and the fact that he himself eliminated Zhukov, they removed Khrushchev from his post, and rightly so made. Yes, Khrushchev was active during the Battle of Stalingrad, but he would have tried to be different in Stalin's times.
  29. shasherin_pavel
    shasherin_pavel 6 January 2014 18: 15
    +1
    Forgot to add. A question was asked at the forum: why did the terrorists do their thing in Volgograd?
    In one of the photos of the blown up station, I saw in front of the station a "children's round dance" statue which was restored by the "Night Wolves" and revived it in the same place where it stood in the Battle of Stalingrad. It is also a protest of extremists who want to destroy the brotherhood of our country, against the fact that we remember our history, and the history of our country is the history of the unification of peoples under the protection of Russia from those who in history "terrorized" people with their aggressive actions. So let's not pour water on the "terror-horror" mill.
  30. stranik72
    stranik72 6 January 2014 18: 41
    +4
    "It would be a joy to the terrorists if the whole country was in mourning instead of a holiday, because all this was done only for the sake of this, so that we would all lower our heads and decide that we are all finished now."
    I disagree, compassion is a national trait of a Russian person, but that bacchanalia of a "nationwide" showy holiday on TV is squalor, and comparing these terrorist attacks with the Great Patriotic War is not worth the level. And what about lowered their heads, mourning is just compassion, not surrender to "captivity", but they just did not notice, for Russia it is so usual. "Divide and rule" on this a great nation and country cannot be built. Yes, the holidays cannot be canceled, but it was possible to find words for the nation, to make TV programs that would not emphasize the difference in the perception of Russia between those on stage and the rest of the country beyond the ring road. In a word, in my today's country the words "Get up, the country is huge, get up ..." simply could not appear the wrong spirit, and we are already too divided, including by such events and their reaction to them by us. "If there is one joy for everyone, then there is trouble ...", and now the second is knocking more and more clearly at the door, and this must be seen.
  31. typhoon7
    typhoon7 6 January 2014 19: 25
    +2
    The author is well done, emotionally and faithfully.
  32. konvalval
    konvalval 6 January 2014 19: 28
    +1
    Elizabeth, well done. Everything is correct.
  33. Yugra
    Yugra 6 January 2014 21: 51
    0
    Look at the attitude towards terrorist attacks and the following days on the echo of Moscow. That's where the liberals had fun and looked for any moment to hurt Putin. To close this fiend of hell urgently, like a new newspaper, like rain. That's where the seasoned accomplices settled terrorism in Russia
  34. MahsusNazar
    MahsusNazar 6 January 2014 22: 28
    +1
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    Quote: sergey32
    What do we all country live according to the scenario of terrorists? Life goes on, albeit with pain in the heart.

    Right. For us - Russians Russian (this is one 143 millionth nation) there is no difference in the number of victims, and the first toast for the New Year was to be for all those who died, and the second for the death of all those involved. And the fact that we didn’t make a nationwide cry out of this is a plus, since this is exactly what the terrorists and their Western "partners" are trying to achieve - to break or at least break our spirit, make us afraid, close our houses and don’t show our nose ... Fuck two!

    Quote: sergey32
    Stalingrad must again become a turning point in this war.

    And something tells me what will become, all great things are done quietly.

    Quote: sergey32
    What I agree with the author is the prohibition of abortion. The more of us, the stronger we are.

    One of the first decrees of Stalin after the war (or before. Correct if wrong) was the ban on abortion. And this prohibition did not have to be lifted. For such a great country like Russia, there should be 300 millions of us - and this is the minimum, so you should not divide the number of people born on a national basis, but it is better to take an example from the same southern compatriots and large families in central Russia and the Far East. The Russians (we are all 143 million) give birth little, since they were most exposed to an information attack to vaccinate Western values Ala-family will wait - the main career. This stereotype must be trampled, three children - this is the norm.
    For all those who start throwing phrases about "standard of living does not allow" and other excuses, I advise you to read Turgenev's story "Two Rich Man" - it is short, but carries a very important and deep meaning.
    "And we are not salty" - a phrase that crosses out all those values ​​alien to us about personal growth, career, freedom and other heresy.

    Totally on your side, I’ll only mention one thing - no one has the right to upload unverified information to the media, until the end of the investigation - this is a secret
  35. DPN
    DPN 6 January 2014 23: 04
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    The author is wrong! But what about the fact that thousands of Muslims serve in the Russian Army, including fighting in the Caucasus with militants, become heroes, love Russia


    The article is correct, nothing bad about the Russian Muslims did not find. The fact that they are friendlier than the Slovens is why we ourselves are to blame. These are our Slovenes Gorbachev and Yeltsen from the beginning ruined the country and then got drunk, and if Muslims managed to survive in this mess due to faith and friendship, then the Slovenes for the most part drank. It all started when Yeltsin brought alcohol to the piano, soldering his people to stay in power. We Slovenes turned out to be more drunk, these were our children, they smoked, sniffed glues, drank the same piano, and asked for bread, and mostly thanks to the media, there was a prostitution, now it's almost the same. That's the kind of capitalism with a human face we got in place, therefore and the Slovene brothers dump the hill. And the Muslims have nothing to do with it. If Putin rules foreign policy, then what is Medvedev doing ???
    In the USSR there was a battle for the harvest, now there is a continuous war with the housing and communal services, with the Ships, in the Caucasus a guerrilla war for more than a dozen years, by the Terrorists, Corruptionists, What did we build?
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 8 January 2014 09: 25
      0
      Slavs and not slaves. You write Muslims without mistakes, only abbreviate to "Muslims". Before "Royal" they drank "Solntsedar". Do you know what it is? The Americans bought a large batch of Solntsedar wine in the USSR and in a month they are buying even more. They ask them: "Why do you need so much?" They answer ... the first answer I heard: "We have not found such a cheap paint for fences anywhere in the world." The second option: "The Indians from" Solntsedar "die after the first glass." But what have we built? no one will be able to answer this to you, because we have abolished "socialism", and we are not building "capitalism", as Putin said.
  36. Clueless
    Clueless 7 January 2014 01: 25
    +2
    Well, yes, let's cancel the holidays after every terrorist attack. Not only that, then the attacks will go on every holiday, there it also go on the occasion of the terrorists, which is not permissible.

    The president in NG mentioned an appeal about this terrorist attack. And here is another article from "rock the boat". Actually, terrorist attacks are made for this, so that such authors using the emotions of the people and rocked the boat, now in one place, then in another - it's elementary.

    First, one article will reach one ears, then another another, etc., and after a while - catch the next orange revolution.

    Such articles have always infuriated me; in them there is no time for specifics, currents of emotions, snot. And when a woman gets into such a topic, then this is a complete tryndets.
  37. Clueless
    Clueless 7 January 2014 01: 41
    +1
    Quote: I am
    The unity of the PEOPLE is expressed not only in the holiday - grub and companionship. Yes, the holidays should be canceled at the state level !!!! You can’t eat and have fun while our citizens have just died a terrible death. In their place could be anyone !!!!! And I and YOU and everyone else !!!!! Feast in Time of Plague !!!!!!!
    PEOPLE KILLED !!!!!! And only non-humans sculpt such excuses. If you can’t explain such simple things to children, what kind of person are you ????? And if someone from your relatives were killed ???? Would also celebrate ??????? Children will grow up and repay the same, not seeing anything reprehensible. Well, if you think that you deserve that during your funeral, someone sang and danced, then I and many, MANY others consider this to be koschismism .........


    Lope of emotions. And if you think about it?

    The worst thing is to follow the lead of the terrorists! If you do not understand such an elementary thing, it’s better to cut off the Internet for yourself, your nerves will be calmer.

    Further. People died, it’s grief. But for some reason such emotional ones always forget that in our country more people die every day than during the attack. Let’s then mourn every day, or are they worse than that?

    About the country celebrates. On NG, the news only spoke about this tragedy, and no one was silent about it. The President even changed the New Year’s address on this occasion. Everyone felt this pain.

    And about the explanation for the children. Dear, are you friends with your head at all? That is, parents should children who go to kindergarten, explain that people died, and this will not be the new year? A child, he is like a sponge, absorbs all emotions, and to give him a negative in him grow it beyond stupidity.

    One must act with one’s heart, mind, and not emotions.
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  39. Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 7 January 2014 04: 39
    +1
    The trend is this, learn from the example of developed European countries that in the end society will forget all moral standards, and under such conditions its growth is not possible due to the instincts laid down in a person. Replace it with more powerful and morally stable, even if not quite educated. Which is likely to be temporary as well. In order to raise a country from its knees, it is necessary to establish a family cult and begin by educating young people about its moral foundations. For example: exceptional monogamy and the absence of premarital sexual relations for women. And the same monogamy in marriage for men (all this is justified and unconditionally). The institutions of marriage and public censure of violation of its principles must be revived. It is necessary to assign the main propaganda to television channels, as the most informative and influential sources. Now there, along with representatives of the authorities, there is in honor such a riffraff from leading all kinds of shows, pop stars, party people, which is not comprehensible to common sense. All of them are the marginals of normal family relationships and belong, at least for the time being, only from a part to any kind of LGBT ... This is, in general terms, a small, but the main part.
  40. Magadan
    Magadan 7 January 2014 05: 02
    +2
    Behind all the clear calls and all the correct words, I saw some kind of hysteria in the article. The author differs from my grandfathers, who went through the Great Patriotic War, in that he actually screams like "everything sucks, everything is lost." These terrorist attacks just made us grit our teeth and think about who the enemy is. And this enemy is not Muslims. Not Caucasians. This enemy is external, the same one that has been wanting to destroy Russia for several hundred years. The war did not work out, so he creates Wahhabis on the right and homosexuals on the left. Hires neo-Vlasovites and neo-hipsters among Russians. He wants to kill Russia with the help of Russia itself.
    And don't be hysterical, author. My grandfathers shot the alarmists. Even though you are a woman, this is not a reason to be "all-spreading". Russia is not dying. Our young people are normal. I also lived in the USSR.
    Russia is winning. And now she even began to conquer the hearts of other nations with her idea of ​​a world of basic values ​​without homosexuality, juvenile and assimilation of everyone and everything. Check out the American forums. Ordinary people there for Russia. Not that we need it. And just an extra confirmation that we are on the right track. And Wahhabis with other homosexuals are not a hindrance to us.
  41. sergant89
    sergant89 7 January 2014 05: 10
    0
    Quote: sergey32
    So that there is no such thing as in your photo, I recently talked with my older children. They grew up, began to fly out of the parental nest. I said to them: "No matter how difficult it was for my mother and me, we did not kill any of you in the most difficult times. All of you were given the opportunity to be born and live. Anything can happen in life, there may be unplanned children. If you bring us anything, we are our own. do not quit. "

    Huge PLUS to you
  42. rocketman
    rocketman 7 January 2014 08: 10
    0
    Quote: Luga
    If there are fireworks on the night from 31 to 1 "at the time of the plague," then the parade in Moscow in November 41 will be the same.

    From the parade we went straight to the front, standing to the death, and from the fireworks - for a beer to improve health. Feel the difference. In 1941, Stalin stood at the mausoleum, showing the whole country that he was in besieged Moscow, along with the people. Where was Mr. PU? He trained in hockey in Sochi for a friendly match with father.
  43. riding
    riding 7 January 2014 09: 15
    +2
    The author writes: Nevertheless, it is time for all ordinary people to understand that for a long time there has been a people's war, a war against a specific people - against us! I can’t know how holy this war is.
    The article is good, dictated by sincere feelings. BUT the substitution of concepts only stirs up the head. A people's war never goes against a people, it is a war of the people themselves with a common enemy. As it was in World War II, as it was in 1812.
    And the whole nation, and not its individual representatives, will rise up against danger, and in the Volgograd bus, and in other places of terrorist attacks, the terrorist’s weapons do not divide people by age, nationality, etc.
  44. D_L
    D_L 7 January 2014 11: 09
    0
    "What can I do in this situation for my country?" - probably the first thing to do is to be guided by the principle - "If you want to fix the world, start with yourself!" And only then decide what is outside of us.
  45. runway
    runway 7 January 2014 13: 58
    +2
    The author mixed the two concepts of Homeland, and power ....
    She does not understand why Volgograd, but not Moscow, empathized with the tragedy where the last terrorist attacks took place. This is our power. She is not with the people, but somehow separately. Geeks. You can't name it otherwise. She (the authorities) did not empathize with the country when our guys died in Chechnya. She (the authorities) told the country that there was not a war there, but a counter-terrorist operation was being carried out. And if a militant threw a machine gun, then he is already a civilian .... She (the authorities) did not empathize with the country when our guys died, waiting for help in the Kursk submarine .... She (the authorities) did nothing to save lives their citizens. Unfortunately, there are many such examples. What is the last trip of Obeschalkin to the flooded area in the Far East? He left, but they stayed ... But he did not go to cut down the forest so that people could build their own houses, but in Sochi. Play hockey .... Total check of sports facilities for the Olympics. So it's called now ...
    People who do not empathize with the grief of another person are and are not in power. Not feeling the pain of another person, they easily inflict it on people. Unfortunately they are not enough. For some reason, they believe that their misfortune and grief will bypass. Among these people, not all geeks. There are naive ones. Over time, they will realize that they were mistaken. Therefore, the author does not need to blame Moscow. Different people live here.
    The author calls on the country and people to wake up. And then what? Charging and washing? If the author had finished the article with a proposal not to vote for the geeks in power, declare them a national bike, it would be understandable.
    1. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 7 January 2014 14: 58
      +4
      Indeed, during all the conversations, we somehow forgot that terrible tragedies had happened. The question arises who is to blame, why this happened and you see sharply in this situation who is behaving and how. Our government lives its own separate life, this life for its elite , that is, people close to the authorities, snickering oligarchs and corrupt officials, so the authorities live by their aspirations and desires. Remember the "stool", how many people, ordinary military personnel, died at landfills during the disposal of ammunition, probably dozens, at the whim of one person who, for economic reasons, MONEY is not profitable for the Ministry of Defense, did not enter into an agreement with the industry for the disposal of ammunition. So let's compare those who died in Stalingrad and those who died at the training ground and ask ourselves, who is this representative of the authorities. Who gave the right to kill our citizens by this and by this, nobody. It is a shame that our people are separate, and the power supposedly CHOSEN by the people, separately and until this is overcome there will be no order.
  46. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 7 January 2014 15: 02
    +2
    Anecdote:
    Met the Statue of Liberty and Motherland:
    - Hello, village! - says the Statue of Liberty and points to his torch. “Look what a lighter I have.”
    “Is this one of us a village ?!” - Motherland answers and points to his sword. “Look at my nail file.”
  47. Megre
    Megre 7 January 2014 15: 08
    +2
    Who lives in Russia well.
  48. 007ban
    007ban 7 January 2014 20: 17
    +2
    I am a simple Russian, living in a small town, a native of the USSR. So, I have two children and I would like more and more. BUT. Why (in other words) to bring poverty. From birth you need a lot of money. And how? Yes, you tell me you can raise a good person in modest conditions. I agree, but only two, a maximum of three. And live when we are? Where is the state? There is no concern of the state about its citizens in practice, and in words it is also not enough. Why do I buy when children should I choose food to buy an orange or apples? Why should I survive all the time? What kind of children are we talking about if the whole world collects money for treatment on the first channel. Where is the state? I don’t argue slogans are needed. Such as get up the country of Russia! And again. From mine this slogan will sound silly. But if it sounds from the TOP, it will already be something. And why is a working person in our country a beggar? It's a shame that someone doesn’t work, he eats. only I disagree with many things. Abortions ... For example: the whole family drinks, she sober up, fly in t, and she already has five, all in orphanages. Such people should be sterilized right after the second one. And the state again provokes such births, pays upbringing and life to children in orphanages. (What should be done) And so. how am I of any help. Yes, I am proud that I am Russian. Are you happy for me? I apologize if, what’s wrong, on emotions.
    1. Elizabeth
      8 January 2014 09: 23
      +2
      I am a simple Russian citizen living in a small town, a native of the USSR. So, I have two children and I would like more and more. NO. Why (in other words) bring about poverty.

      And they produce! If you want and you can, give birth! The best gift for your children and protection are brothers and sisters. Parents are not eternal. It also happens that before they die, they are ill for a long time. The more children, the easier it is for each of them. You can take care of the old people in turn. And if one or two, then it is better to educate them scoundrels so that they surrender their parents to a nursing home and live happily ever after. You want happiness for your children. Think about the future, your own and the future of your children. They will somehow manage without oranges. When they grow up, oranges and vitamins will buy themselves. Only they will be able to buy everything that is necessary if they grow up socially adaptable, that is, capable of living in any society, under any regime, in their own kind. And this environment is created by children by their parents, first of all, by giving them brothers and sisters. A large family will teach to survive in any society. See how quickly southerners adapt to new conditions, find, work, housing, bring a family, give birth to children. Because most of them are from large families, they learned to communicate with representatives of their generation, unlike the children of small Slavs, who wait for oranges from their parents before their old age, can not find work, housing. I don’t argue, there are many difficulties, help from the state is not enough. But earlier it was even less. People lived. In difficult conditions, large families survived. I do not want to rush slogans. But Russia will be saved by the Russian openness to childbearing. So far we are losing a lot because we are protecting ourselves from our children. And this promises slavery or death to our descendants. You see that they spare neither women nor children. Men are subject to destruction without question. Russians, too, do not spare their children. Abortion Contraception. Do not look at the marginals; you will not solve their problems. Solve the problems of your family and your country. It is inseparable.
      Yes, I’m proud that I am Russian. Are you happy for me? I apologize if, what’s wrong, on emotions.

      I'm happy for you! Do not be afraid of your emotions! Emotions are peculiar only to the living!
  49. Elizabeth
    7 January 2014 20: 44
    +1
    In the case of other methods of interruption, all initiative and responsibility lies with the woman and this can only be fought with education - a woman should be fully aware of all the consequences of her decision, while now she is carefully guarded from understanding and vice versa they recommend interruption (murder) as the best way out


    Since you, dear Ivan, understand everything, you should add one more to everything already understood, not an innovation anymore. Now, more and more often, the murder of a conceived child is being committed, when they recommend preserving the pregnancy, and not interruption. That is why the education you mentioned is more relevant than ever for women, more importantly it is for men, for fathers who want to preserve their offspring.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 8 January 2014 01: 15
      +1

      Lizaveta, I am sure that you (you need to contact a good person) do everything that depends on you, but neither you nor I have the power to change something, unfortunately within the framework of the commentary it is impossible to express yourself completely. I will advise you to add videos to the topic next time to articles. And also if there is a registration for bourgeois projects such as "classmates", "vkontakte" and everyone else, fill them with video files on all problematic topics, not all of them collect confidential information and statistical data.
      [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03RLB6gnVgc [/ img]
      1. Elizabeth
        8 January 2014 21: 57
        +1
        Thank you, Ivan! The films are wonderful! I wish these films were widely available! To some, it’s better to be obligatory.
        You're right, a lot of good films, and articles, and conversations. But more, among themselves. But even so, one cannot fail to notice the changes. The people are awakening.
        neither you nor I have the power to change anything

        There is no power, so there are more opportunities. It’s good that those who still can’t do much can stir up many. And to be honest, we can do a lot. And so we will win!
    2. anarh
      anarh 8 January 2014 04: 23
      0
      Quote: Elizabeth
      Now, more and more often, the murder of a conceived child is being committed, when it is recommended that the pregnancy be continued, and not interruption. That is why the education you mentioned is more relevant than ever for women, more importantly it is for men, for fathers who want to preserve their offspring.

      From the site http://www.dimitrysmirnov.ru/blog/ you can vote to ban infanticide called "abortion".
      Or by a direct link https://www.roi.ru/515
      Voting to introduce an initiative on the relevant bill. So far, only 8 thousand votes. Need 100 thousand. End of voting 05.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
      For doubters: do not find it hard to listen to http://yadi.sk/d/8GPpw2rBEXj97
      I must warn you right away: it hurts to listen.
  50. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 7 January 2014 21: 27
    +2
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: shuhartred
    The third is no longer able to age is not the same. And if you adopt it is considered?

    An adopted child does not improve demographics.

    It is necessary to pass a law so that the state provides the family with free housing for 4 children. That would definitely be the right move, is there really no money for such a decision for the country that is simply necessary for the continued existence of the nation and the state. Moreover, housing should be provided immediately after the birth of the fourth member of our state.
    1. Indifferent
      Indifferent 8 January 2014 09: 02
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      Caucasians and Central Asians will receive apartments. This they have 10 children. And the Russians will be left with what is in the barracks and the huts. Payment for an apartment for 4 children - 8-12 thousand in the winter, and feed the children themselves. With a husband's salary of 25 thousand. A wife with four cannot work for ten years.