Year of insight of mankind

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Event: 2013 year ended. Most analysts evaluate its results as Russia's success in foreign policy.

Comments: Doctor of History, Bagdasaryan V.E.



The past year has summed up numerous grounds for the prospect of breaking the established world-centered world order. It was a year of insight. So what is the sight of humanity?

Cypriot epiphany: robbery is an acceptable way of Western policy

“For insight, the next step should be followed by a set of political decisions”

It turned out that the crisis is produced by the Western model of development itself. Those countries of the periphery that were most economically connected with the West are more susceptible to the crisis waves produced there. Cyprus events have shown that no individual deposits in banks are insured against withdrawals, if we are talking about the direct interests of the West. Cyprus has demonstrated that “civilized” looting in the modern world is permissible.

Syrian epiphany: the USA is an aggressor state

The events in Syria led to the positioning of the United States as the main global expansionist. Russia and China have blocked in the UN Security Council a decision by the United States to actually overthrow the Assad regime. The attempt to enlist in approving the invasion of Syria with the support of a world majority also failed. To get involved in the Syrian conflict under the auspices of the Americans even their NATO allies refused.

Chinese insight: the spread of Western values ​​- the path to the de-sovereignty

Integrating into the global economy, China has long abstained from direct ideological opposition to the United States. The way out of the "hibernation" was the circulation of a circular among the members of the Central Committee of the CPC, which spoke of the subversive significance for China of the spread of Western values. On the main issues of the world political agenda, the PRC has taken an anti-American position.

Egyptian epiphany: the US has no allies, but interests

The overthrow of Mursi in Egypt dispelled the illusion of a US alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood. The US has never been, and cannot be, an ally of traditionalist forces. Islamist forces were used by them to their advantage. As soon as certain geopolitical contradictions appeared between them and the USA, the project of the “Arab spring” was curtailed. Allied relations did not become an obstacle to US support and anti-Erdogan uprisings in Turkey. All of this gave reason to think of other, considered traditional, allies of the United States, such as Saudi Arabia.

"Snowden" epiphany: global global espionage

The Snowden Case found that the United States is not only a global expansionist, but also a global spy. It turned out that even the leaders of the allied European states were being followed. In this regard, there was a certain tension in relations between the United States and Germany.

Venezuelan epiphany: US opposition is possible

The past year has dispelled the myth of American invincibility. Despite all the information and financial resources involved, the Chávez successor Nicolas Maduro won the elections in Venezuela. This actual defeat of the USA meant for South America a continuation of the ideology of the new Bolivarian project. Barack Obama had to retreat in the directions of Syria and Iran.

Russian epiphany: civilization hostility of the West

Russia began the year 2013 with the adoption of the "law of Dima Yakovlev," which challenged the United States. Anti-American rhetoric has in fact become the rhetoric of a new power positioning in Russia. Initially, the line of differentiation of attitude towards Europe and the USA was maintained. Opposition was conducted against militant Americanism, but not against Europeanism. However, during the year it became clear that the West is united in its anti-Russian position. Europe categorically rejected the adoption in Russia of a law prohibiting the propaganda of homosexuality in Russia. The campaign to organize a boycott of the Sochi Olympics began. European integration was sharply contrasted with Russian reintegration. Ukraine has become a field of direct collision of two projects. Never before in the "color revolutions" the question of the attitude of the West - Russia was not formulated so explicitly.

Of course, all of the above points of 2013 insights of the year were realized before. But before that they were not formulated in such a definite way, they did not define a public and, especially, an official agenda for the calls being discussed. Rubicon crossed. For insight, the next step should be followed by a set of political decisions. Civilization confrontation West - the rest of humanity is there. We are entering the 2014 year ...
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  1. makarov
    +21
    31 December 2013 09: 12
    "Of course, all of the above provisions of the insights of 2013 were realized earlier. But before they were not formulated so clearly, they did not determine the public and, moreover, the official agenda of the discussed challenges."

    And why was it to be modest, but to dance curtsies ?? Initially it was necessary to call EVERYTHING in your own words, otherwise you are accustomed to calling a podzabornogo bugger a "noble" gay. Ugh b .. eat ....
    1. +32
      31 December 2013 09: 17
      This year was truly fruitful for the Russian Federation, a lot has been achieved. We have finally returned the role of one of the main players in the world arena, have shown that we are not a six-country in the West, which are all the "independent countries" of the EU. But these successes are impossible without relying on internal Russian successes, namely in defense capability, the construction of new enterprises, gas pipelines and ports, a decrease in product imports, and much more.

      And we could not just get away with it. Once again I express my condolences to the residents of Stalingrad. All we need now is stoic and patience, for everything that pursues such actions nonhumans (read western intelligence agencies and their geeks) - panic and fear. We are a victorious people, we are not afraid !! And to the enemies - DEATH!
      1. Horde
        +21
        31 December 2013 09: 50
        a small falsity in your poems, namely, the poetic size is violated in you, you must read in such a way that it does not hurt your hearing
        WHEN THE WHOLE RUSSIAN FLAG
        that's right
        1. +6
          31 December 2013 12: 25
          You are probably right, but! If it comes from the heart, then commendable in any form.
          Once, my head of the department, defending one of the employees before the "controllers", about errors in the official document, said: - "Gerasim, when he drowned Mumu, he did not know the lyrics, but he cried godlessly. Therefore, it does not matter to me what he did. mistakes in the scribble about completing the task, the important thing is that he completed it "!
          Why am I? It was possible to send a PS so as not to turn the comments on the site into the USE in Russian language and literature.
          Yours!
        2. +6
          31 December 2013 12: 38
          This is a non-Russian flag, and the Russian one ... ROA(Vlasov Army)) and Massonov who Peter brought from Holland and hung on the ships of the Merchant Fleet ...
          Look at the palette of flags of the states, most of them use the BLUE-WHITE_ BLUE-BLUE coloring (the state of the puppet under the control of the Masons)))

          Slavic banners red. So the rhyme is right.
          Russian -this word appeared somewhere in the beginning of the 20th century. With the arrival of the Bolsheviks to the Authorities, who also elected the Red Panel as their Banner ....

          That's something like this. Clarifications and Happy New Year Comrades !!!!!
          Today we do not argue, we are gaining strength, The year will be difficult (but interesting))))
          1. Horde
            +6
            31 December 2013 14: 16
            Quote: Asgard
            Look at the palette of flags of the states, most of them use the BLUE-WHITE_ BLUE-BLUE coloring (the state of the puppet under the control of the Masons)))



            laughing laughing laughing

            Happy New Year!
          2. +7
            31 December 2013 14: 18
            Quote: Asgard
            Today we do not argue


            Arguing, namesake, arguing ... Yes
            Quote: Asgard
            Slavic banners of red color

            Then scarlet
        3. 0
          31 December 2013 14: 11
          Quote: Horde
          a little falsity in your poems


          Freudian reservation.
        4. +4
          31 December 2013 18: 15
          Horde (3) SU "a little falsehood in your poetry"
          -----------------------------------------------------------
          Well, if we talk about falsehoods, then it would be more correct to say this:
          Yes I am Russian!
          And let the enemy remember forever
          I only get on my knees
          When I kiss the RUSSIAN FLAG!

          In any case, it sounds great !!!
    2. +4
      31 December 2013 09: 28
      This is true. Things should be called by their proper names. Then everything becomes much clearer ...

      http://www.allmirest.org/news/u_nikh_ehto_nevozmozhno/2013-12-31-409
    3. Horde
      +3
      31 December 2013 09: 42
      Enlightenment as the next step should be followed by a set of political decisions. Civilizational confrontation West - the rest of humanity is there. We are entering 2014 ...


      yes it’s funny who else is MATURING TO OBVIOUS FACTS ...
    4. Horde
      +9
      31 December 2013 09: 55
      about REVIEWS, add here the STALIN ROLE in history, I think now many will agree, except for Putin, of course, that it was Stalin who acted as a SAVIOR for our country and for our SOVIET PEOPLE ...
      1. Rusich51
        0
        2 January 2014 13: 40
        Quote: Horde
        about REVIEWS, add here the STALIN ROLE in history, I think now many will agree, except for Putin, of course, that it was Stalin who acted as a SAVIOR for our country and for our SOVIET PEOPLE ...

        For a long time the peoples were seeing, well, as they say better late than never.
    5. mihasik
      +4
      31 December 2013 13: 05
      Well handsome! about
      Quote: makarov
      podzabornogo bugger to call "noble" gay. Ugh b .. eat ....
      just a class!) Happy New Year!
    6. +7
      31 December 2013 14: 22
      Quote: makarov
      It was necessary initially to call ALL in your own words
      Confucius still taught to start every business with the correction of names.
    7. Rusich51
      0
      2 January 2014 13: 42
      Quote: makarov
      Call EVERYTHING in your own words, otherwise you are used to calling the podzabornogo bugger a "noble" gay. Ugh b .. eat ....

      + + + Well, this phrase will become a classic for all time. wassat
  2. +6
    31 December 2013 09: 13
    We have seen! It remains to see our elites.

    Happy New Year to you all!
    1. +6
      31 December 2013 09: 37
      but what is there to see clearly, we already knew that the USA is a hotbed of all sorts of shit, never telling the truth, always substituting their allies and friends (if you can call them that), and our "type of elite" is also aware, only their loot does not give they speak against their masters, otherwise they will be left with nothing and will have to bow to their people to go. and how it will end for them no one knows
    2. Horde
      +6
      31 December 2013 10: 30
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      We have seen! It remains to see our elites.



      the elites have long seen their sight and are doing nasty things to their people quite consciously ...
      1. Rusich51
        0
        2 January 2014 13: 45
        Quote: Horde
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        We have seen! It remains to see our elites.



        the elites have long seen their sight and are doing nasty things to their people quite consciously ...

        They will have to get used to the idea that there are plenty of lampposts in Russia.
    3. +12
      31 December 2013 15: 38
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      We have seen! It remains to see our elites.

      While Chubais headed by Rusnano (after the collapse of RAO UES), Serdyukov is free, Dima-iPhone is in the prime minister's chair, and the evil Svanidze is on TV, we are really invincible. Whoever defeats us will suffer grief with us.
      Happy New Year everyone!
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  4. +5
    31 December 2013 09: 38
    To the author +, with a small addition. It is much better to see if, before the insight, you close your eyes to the obvious for a long and tight.
  5. +1
    31 December 2013 09: 39
    The United States both fights against the USSR (RF), and fights politically. Germany crushed Europe under itself not by tanks, but by the economy, as it always wanted to bend, in Russia it is still brazenly afraid to climb. China rises from its knees. What is there to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. Happy New Year, everyone!
  6. +13
    31 December 2013 09: 45
    The author very accurately noticed the conceptual essence of what happened in 2013. Perhaps since the time of Churchill's speech in Fulton, nothing like this has happened. Masks are dropped, sentiments are dropped. The self-disclosure session was a success. Not without the help of Russia, which certainly pleases. In the next year, mattresses and geyropa will violently seek revenge. That’s why it’s disturbing in my soul ... And so: Putin and his team for foreign policy in 2013. -five! hi
    1. +3
      31 December 2013 10: 30
      Quote: retired
      And so: Putin and his team for foreign policy in 2013. -five!

      wink What about domestic politics, dear Senior Citizen?
      1. Anatoly. RUS
        -2
        31 December 2013 10: 47
        FOR INTERNAL POLICY, Putin HERE SUCH AN ESTIMATION ------- (ONE MINUS). IF WE HAVE NOT HAVE AN OIL NEEDLE, THEN WE HAVE NOT DELIVERED A MINUS. Gazprom is a national treasure of Russia. hi
        1. +7
          31 December 2013 12: 21
          Quote: Anatoly. RUS
          IF WE HAS NOT HAD AN OIL NEEDLE, THEN I WOULD NOT DELIVER A MINUS.

          We had Great Ancestors and they left us such a state.
          The share of oil revenues in Russia's GDP is small. If you knew how to count, I wouldn’t put you a minus.
          1. Anatoly. RUS
            +3
            31 December 2013 17: 21
            [quote = Setrac] We had great ancestors and they left us such a state [/ quote]
            I agree. But there are still great thieves.
            [quote = Setrac] The share of oil revenues in Russia's GDP is small. If you knew how to count I wouldn’t put you a minus. [
            Do not believe it, I do not know how much oil and gas is sold per day and how much it costs. oil is probably 4 times more expensive than ours? And yes, metal for export, timber for export, seafood for export, military equipment for export, etc.
            I have seen two large factories, the state simply "milks" them and I have not seen any help. Small business is a separate topic, for a tax company every year with an audit, openly give money.
            1. +4
              31 December 2013 19: 17
              Quote: Anatoly. RUS
              I agree. But there are still great thieves.

              You won’t believe it, but there have always been thieves, both under the tsar and under Soviet rule.
              Quote: Anatoly. RUS
              I have seen two large factories, the state simply "milks" them and I have not seen any help.

              And who built these two plants?
              1. Anatoly. RUS
                +3
                31 December 2013 23: 42
                Quote: Setrac
                And who built these two plants?

                These plants were built by the USSR
                Quote: Setrac
                You won’t believe it, but there have always been thieves, both under the tsar and under Soviet rule.

                Before the king? you know better. Under Soviet power, I heard (I didn’t work then) nails, keys, made different shabbats on machines. The factory that was being built by the state at once became someone else, now I’ve got a bolt and get the deadline.
                1. 0
                  1 January 2014 21: 57
                  Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                  I have seen two large factories, the state simply "milks" them and I have not seen any help.


                  Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                  These plants were built by the USSR


                  Correct writing - they were built by the state. Their state built their state and milks it.
            2. Rusich51
              0
              2 January 2014 13: 48
              Quote: Anatoly. RUS
              every year with a tax audit, openly give money.

              Record them on a tape and hand over with giblets. Do not clatter with enemies of the state.
        2. +9
          31 December 2013 12: 46
          Quote: Anatoly. RUS
          Gazprom is the national treasure of Russia.

          If this is a mockery, then you have absolutely no idea what Gazprom is! This is not Zenith and not Schalke. This is not Miller and Medvedev. This is such a colossus that contains a fairly large part of the country. And people plow there, God forbid! The equipment is constantly being upgraded, new technologies are being introduced, roads are being built ... They climbed off the shelf already. Housing is being built. I’m not even talking about new gas pipelines. Here are all those who run into Gazprom I want to take for a week to the position of the head of the LES in some serious hospitals, and even at that time when there are repairs on several threads, and even the bogs of the swamp did not have time to freeze, buy popcorn, get comfortable and see: how is it? I'm not saying that not all critics can work there. Stupidly, qualifications are not enough. Do not know the essence, do not need 3,14.
          1. Anatoly. RUS
            -2
            31 December 2013 17: 36
            Quote: retired
            I want to take the position of the head of LES in some serious health care facility for a week

            Is this Medvedev himself? Under the pseudonym "pensioner", now it is clear why in the photo "backwards". Lish can answer: Who studied for what or who had enough money for a university
            Quote: retired
            Stupidly, qualifications are not enough. Do not know the essence, do not need 3,14.

            Candidates for diplomats need rabid grandmothers, 50 people like that.
            Did they raise a pension by 200 rubles?
            Quote: retired
            I don’t even speak about new gas pipelines

            Oh, and you didn’t hear about the new heating pipes, and about the tariffs of the housing estate?
            1. +3
              31 December 2013 18: 22
              [/ quoC
              Quote: Anatoly. RUS
              Oh, and you didn’t hear about the new heating pipes, and about the tariffs of the housing estate?
              Hmm ... A hard case ... Did you understand what you wrote ?? And what does Gazprom have to do with it ?? In general, my suggestion about not 3,14 remains valid. I'm taking my leave for sim hi
              1. Anatoly. RUS
                0
                1 January 2014 00: 04
                Quote: retired
                Hmm ... A hard case ... Did you understand what you wrote ?? And what does Gazprom have to do with it ??

                I understand. But 3,14 zdyuki who boast of their intelligence and say how we drive everything into the "pipe" over the hill, they cannot conduct gas to the village. What does Gazprom have to do with it?
                Quote: retired
                This is such a colossus that contains a fairly large part of the country

                Which one explain. It looks like a zaposhok comes from the skin of a divided bear. Gazprom is not Russia?
                Quote: retired
                Oh, and you didn’t hear about the new heating pipes, and about the tariffs of the housing estate?
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                2. 0
                  1 January 2014 07: 43
                  Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                  I understand. But 3,14 zdyuki who boast of their intelligence and say how we drive everything into the "pipe" over the hill, they cannot conduct gas to the village. What does Gazprom have to do with it?

                  Heal a young man! Then it will be too late! Yes
                  1. Anatoly. RUS
                    +3
                    1 January 2014 11: 30
                    It’s not necessary to shift from a sick head to a healthy one! fool
                    1. +4
                      1 January 2014 12: 00
                      Young man! If you call your head healthy, then something in this world is wrong ... By the way: do not forget to click on the minus. This will allow you to increase your self-esteem.
                      1. +8
                        1 January 2014 12: 08
                        It’s New Year’s morning, and you’ve already hooked with youth. lol Happy New Year drinks .
                      2. +1
                        1 January 2014 14: 47
                        Happy New Year dear! Yes, got it already! am Gazprom is bad for them ... Work in this system, and then 3,14 - di ... Thank God I have been working in the Gazprom system for 8 years (already soon). Yes. A lot of things can be presented to him ... But what he does causes a very strong respect! Well, at least for me ...
                        Yes. Happy New Year Ingvar !!! drinks
                      3. +2
                        1 January 2014 14: 58
                        Quote: retired
                        Happy New Year dear! Yes, got it already! Gazprom is bad for them ...Work in this system, and then 3,14 - di ... Thank God I have been working for 8 years (already soon) in the Gazprom system. Yes. A lot of things can be presented to him ... But what he does causes a very strong respect! Well, at least for me ...
                        Yes. Happy New Year Ingvar !!!


                        laughing Oh Yuri! so the main problem is exactly what to work)) and not 3,14)) What’s interesting, when it comes to work, some are silent, others are throwing problems away!
                        as they say, nobody wants to turn back the bags, but please talk.
                        But so much more work is needed to make desires a reality !! drinks For you, our dear, Senior Citizen !! lol
                      4. +1
                        1 January 2014 15: 15
                        Well, what can I say ... You are not so alone as you want to convince us! Happy New Year, dear! I always read your comments with pleasure. A biography is felt behind them ... Who did not understand: what I'm talking about is their problem ... Happy New Year!
                      5. +2
                        1 January 2014 19: 22
                        Quote: retired
                        You are not so alone as you want to convince us!

                        what Yes, I am lonely only in one plan. For the rest, an ordinary person who works and makes money for himself with his own hands. Thank you for your kind words, of course. And who doesn’t understand us is their problem as you put it right. And I wish you a lot of good
                        in 2014 and your loved ones. hi
                      6. +1
                        1 January 2014 19: 43
                        Quote: lonely
                        Yes, I am alone in only one way.

                        it is clear in which laughing ..... in personal ....... what prevents .... to find a life partner ..... I understand the problem. lol
                      7. 0
                        1 January 2014 20: 04
                        Quote: Apollon
                        it is clear in what ..... in personal ....... what prevents .... to find a life partner ..... I understand the problem.

                        laughing age and character !! that's the problem
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                    2. +2
                      1 January 2014 15: 27
                      Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                      It’s not necessary to shift from a sick head to a healthy one!

                      Those. the problem is already evident ... My condolences ...
                      1. Anatoly. RUS
                        +1
                        1 January 2014 18: 08
                        Quote: retired
                        Thank God for 8 years (already soon) I have been working in the Gazprom system.

                        This explains a lot: a pension is not 10 000 rubles with a rent of 5200 rubles
                        As the saying goes: each frog praises its swamp. Kvakayte and further only, I did not hear anything worthwhile, but only "cleverly" flashed about 3.14.
                        From all correspondence, complete nonsense, SOPLY pick up: and
                        Quote: retired
                        . And people plow there, God forbid!

                        This is probably not about you.
                        Quote: retired
                        to put on the position of the head of LES in some serious medical institution,

                        Quote: retired
                        and then 3,14 - di.

                        Quote: retired
                        Do not know the essence, do not need 3,14.

                        Quote: retired
                        Yes. A lot of things can be presented to him ... But what he does causes a very strong respect! Well, at least for me ...

                        And I asked:
                        Quote: retired
                        This is such a colossus that contains a fairly large part of the country.

                        Which one? There is no answer, only 3,14 (the favorite number you remember?)
                        Quote: retired
                        I don’t even speak about new gas pipelines

                        It’s sad when (I repeat): one pipeline is made of gold, and the others are from G ... (not 3.14, but like)
                        And for all this I hear complete nonsense.
                        Quote: retired
                        Hmm ... A hard case ... Did you understand what you wrote ?? And what does Gazprom have to do with it ??

                        Quote: retired
                        Young man! If you call your head healthy, then something in this world is wrong ... By the way: do not forget to click on the minus. This will allow you to increase your self-esteem.

                        Quote: retired
                        Those. the problem is already evident ... My condolences ...

                        fool
                      2. +1
                        1 January 2014 18: 26
                        Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                        each frog praises its swamp.

                        Ahhhh ... I see! I talked to you like a mammal fool It turned out to be like an amphibian! Yes Excuse me wink And about snot ... I just did not scatter them. And you can continue ... You are doing pretty well. In general, I will never spend time on you again. hi Scour the country and beyond. This is a fascinating lesson, I'll tell you ... I'm still waiting for your inventions ... feel
                      3. Anatoly. RUS
                        +1
                        1 January 2014 23: 27
                        Quote: retired
                        Scour the country and beyond.

                        I do not work in Gazprom, I work at the factory.
                        Quote: retired
                        This is an exciting lesson, I’ll tell you ...

                        Yes, gas leaves oil, and the country is in .ope.
                        WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY DOES GAZPROM WORK ?,
                        Quote: retired
                        This is such a colossus that contains a fairly large part of the country.

                        Constructive conversation did not work.
                        Quote: retired
                        Ahhhh ... I see! I was talking to you like a mammal. It turns out it was like an amphibian! Sorry

                        If you reason logically: The cha has a bear on the car, then he’s back to the people, the conclusion is that you’re a bunch of bears angry CONVENTION CONCEPTUAL FINISHED!
                      4. +1
                        1 January 2014 22: 08
                        Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                        This explains a lot: a pension is not 10 000 rubles with a rent of 5200 rubles

                        If you build a house with your own hands, there is no rent.
                      5. Anatoly. RUS
                        +1
                        1 January 2014 23: 35
                        Quote: Setrac
                        If you build a house with your own hands, there is no rent.

                        Well, by golly, probably YOU are from another planet. Land prices. Plot galleries to show. You can build my whole life. I’m 30, I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t give up sports, and it’s expensive to build a house.
                      6. 0
                        2 January 2014 00: 12
                        Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                        Well, by golly, probably YOU are from another planet. Prices for land. Plot show galleries.

                        For a third child, a plot of land is given free of charge.

                        Quote: Anatoly. RUS
                        I’m 30, I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t give up sports, and it’s expensive to build a house.

                        No one promised it would be easy.
          2. +4
            31 December 2013 18: 29
            If you have ordinary workers - definitely! And the author of the post is right - all the wealth of our territory should belong to all and not joint-stock companies. And if the critics there needed to work and not engage in the business they were studying for, you yourself would not be able to resist anything at all. Everyone does his own thing. And criticism is the answer to the usurpation of resources to which every resident of our country has the right!
            1. +4
              31 December 2013 19: 20
              Quote: dddym
              And the author of the post is right - all the wealth of our territory should belong to everyone and not to joint-stock companies.

              Who wants northern riches please come to the north, earn! And then all the masters do not take other people's money in the warm south.
              1. +8
                31 December 2013 19: 32
                Quote: Setrac
                Who wants northern riches please come to the north, earn! And then all the masters do not take other people's money in the warm south.

                Right! Sergei - hi Zadolbali already. Something people don't really go there. Even 7-8 years ago, a drill perli, and now no one asks for less than 50 rubles !! And then: this and they have minimal requests. And when they are asked: "What can you do?" they have a culture-logical shock.
                1. +1
                  1 January 2014 13: 23
                  I can: Electrician 6 discharge, Electrical fitter 5 discharge, Apparatus for chemical production 5 discharge, programmer, rail installer, tower crane operator, slinger, technician, organic synthesis technologist (according to the diploma). Apart from the creative and pedagogical professions that I received during the 44 of my existence. 50000 I would go - but in connection with the increasing incidence of workers throwing - I would like to go with a state guarantee.
                  1. +1
                    1 January 2014 22: 27
                    wait, sir ... And your fears have greatly exaggerated
                    members ...
                  2. +1
                    1 January 2014 22: 32
                    Quote: dddym
                    Electrician 6 category,


                    and the admission group?
                    Quote: dddym
                    Apparatchik of chemical production 5 category


                    laughing it’s either running through the gate valves, or with a broom go around the galleries

                    Quote: dddym
                    programmer, path installer,


                    it's empty

                    Quote: dddym
                    tower crane operator, slinger

                    if there is no regular practice - forget for a while, in the interns.
                    Quote: dddym
                    technician organic synthesis technologist (according to the diploma).

                    You wrote yourself -
                    Quote: dddym
                    (by diploma)
                    I saw such unfortunate technologists. Basically ... God forbid, 1 in the shift knows something, and the rest are "empty space".
                    1. -1
                      2 January 2014 06: 32
                      4 group. In general, what the hell are you trying to insult me? The apparatchik of the 5-th category is a full-fledged specialist and not with a broom, namely, the leading technological process. Yes, not a foreman, but a specialist. Note the apparatchik worked while studying the next step - the technician is an organic synthesis technologist - which means that I studied even with a normal education and that I have a completely normal level of knowledge and I am able to develop a chemical production technology and organize this production from a screw to the final product. I did not work as a team leader - because. that 90 thundered and everyone rushed to earn money, you yourself - who? Senior Assistant Junior Janitor? And after such a conversation, you definitely didn’t give up to me as an employer.
                      1. 0
                        2 January 2014 07: 29
                        Quote: dddym
                        And what the hell are you trying to insult me ​​with?

                        don't make yourself upset

                        Quote: dddym
                        4 Group.

                        practice daily? Stay current with the world of electrics?

                        Quote: dddym
                        The apparatchik of the 5th category is a full-fledged specialist and not with a broom, namely, the leading technological process.

                        Well, in the chemical industry it is full of full-fledged 5p specialists whose responsibility is to clean the galleries, fillings or sit on the valves and turn them on or turn on the electric motors on a call from the DPU or CPU.
                        Quote: dddym
                        Yes, not a foreman, but a specialist

                        only sounds optimistic, but in fact "0"

                        Quote: dddym
                        Note the apparatchik worked studying the next step - the technologist is the technologist of organic synthesis - and that means

                        This only says that - with organic matter, with synthesis without regular practice, and even more so one - DO NOT Cope.
                      2. -1
                        2 January 2014 08: 03
                        Who are you????? Expert??? Achievements in the studio !!! Do you represent at least one chemical process? The machine operator is not a milking machine operator, but a chemical production operator - the operator's duties include: preparation of raw materials for production (maybe you saw machine operators with brooms here) preparation of an apparatus for chemical production (maybe you saw an operator with a rag here) adherence to the technological regime (probably here you saw clean galleries ) conducting the entire production process of the chemical cycle (maybe we were playing cards here?). Temperature conditions, supply of the required components, sampling, indication of instrumentation and automation devices, unloading of the finished product and, yes, cleaning the device for further operation. If you've seen apparatchiks with brooms and nothing more, I understand that you haven't seen normal apparatchiks at all. I worked in 2 industries, the first one was Alkaren oil
                        http://www.sbras.nsc.ru/expo/expo/doc/380.pdf Которое ценилось в советское время 25р за грамм. Которое использовалось в космосе поскольку способно держать практически абсолютный вакуум. Второе производство ДОФ - (диоктилфталат) компонент для производства кабельного пластиката. Если вы видите у себя провод производства 80-90х, то с вероятностью 0,5% он сделан с помощью моих усилий. А по поводу ЦПУ - вы действительно видели что-то из разряда производства аммиака - когда на ЦПУ сидят инженеры и командуют, только у нас производство не аммиака было - и ЦПУ это мое подразделение а командовал я своими ножками - куда пойти и что добавить или убавить или проконтролировать. Так что иди ты батенька лесом со своими пальцами.
                      3. 0
                        2 January 2014 08: 34
                        Quote: dddym
                        The apparatchik ...


                        They wrote a lot of half-truths.


                        Quote: dddym
                        If you saw apparatchiks with brooms and only

                        I saw with a broom and a wrench. There is nothing wrong with the fact that the apparatchik picked up a broom.

                        Quote: dddym
                        CPU is my unit and I commanded my legs - where to go and what to add or turn off or control


                        in your own words - "I commanded my legs"

                        these actions are necessary for the "specialist" on the diploma. There is a clear lack of competence in some issues (the need to see the actions of the worker indicates the inability of the ITER to keep the chain of actions in his head, which further leads to a violation of those processes)

                        you are semi-literate ... with ambition and megalomania!

                        Puppy!
                      4. -1
                        2 January 2014 08: 44
                        Mr., but what - yes, what kind of techie are you? I was not an ITR - I was an apprentice !!! And I graduated in 93 without interruption from production, and then quit my job search at a time when salaries were paid out by Chinese down-padded coats. There is nothing shameful in the broom, and like all the apparatchiks with the broom in my hands, I cleaned my workshop and carried out an audit in the interval between launches. And you are a competent horseradish, tell me what you did as a techie? Only insults and no achievements - a snob with a small letter - this puppy applies to you fully! Bl ... you want intelligently, so there is some scum and fingers are showing. Nihrenashenka didn’t, but tries to evaluate the work of others ....
                      5. 0
                        2 January 2014 09: 05
                        Quote: dddym
                        And I graduated in 93, without interruption from production,

                        what did you graduate? Choral singing courses?

                        Quote: dddym
                        tell me what you did as a techie?


                        Really "specialist with diplom" decided to think with his head?
                        What caused such inhibition?

                        Quote: dddym
                        Bl ... you want intelligently


                        Listen aBRYldLO (I dddym to you) ... you don’t need anything
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                      7. +2
                        2 January 2014 09: 19
                        wassat

                        New Year holidays and you swear
                      8. -1
                        2 January 2014 09: 24
                        Ay Moska - to know she is strong since barks at an elephant!
                      9. -1
                        2 January 2014 09: 48
                        not just Pug, but also a little dirty trick - I ran everywhere to put cons - well, well ... Sub-fence way to earn points ... Oh, and even with two accounts - a hamster!
                      10. +1
                        2 January 2014 10: 04
                        Yes, Dmitry ... an attack is the best defense!

                        On New Year's holidays, throw mud at your rating. So don't take the plus sign +
                      11. 0
                        2 January 2014 10: 11
                        rating? Oh come on, I often swear here especially with capitalists and hamsters - my rating is solely my merit - I do not pretend to be a super-title. Although it is easy to make it here - just write a popular answer when the article appears and that's it.
                      12. -1
                        2 January 2014 10: 27
                        Ahaha, he put a minus for the fact that I was a Komsomol member and for the dictum of Lenin good
                      13. +1
                        4 January 2014 01: 38
                        Quote: dddym
                        ranking


                        Quote: dddym
                        my rating is solely my merit


                        Quote: dddym
                        make it easy here - just write a popular answer when the article appears and that’s it.


                        Just don’t expose yourself to lying anymore in this way -

                        Quote: dddym
                        track installer

                        Такой?http://ochepyatki.ru/view_video.php?viewkey=8abfcf12c5bc6619db3b
                        A person who has worked at least a day in the FC will call him a fitter
                      14. +1
                        4 January 2014 08: 56
                        and you Brute... am maybe you are all geniuses? But I had to work in life in many places, and nowhere have I received any complaints. Have you worked in 90's? It was very difficult to survive there in another way ... In general, I then lost everything and the apartment and family ... You laugh and I just disgusted to read this ... When you have a common-law wife with someone else’s child on your neck, and s / n 700r at the cost of a pack of prima 100r. A child in a kolkhoz kindergarten - simply because at home from food - only wheat and a bull’s head taken at a wage for a cheap price. Like a nightmare - the head of a bull that was eaten for a month and a half and of course wheat ... I still remember with great gratitude the local Father who got us coupons for coal - we would just be frozen there, for no one needs anyone else. And you tell yourself ... It was almost impossible to find work in the city and we went to the collective farm - there I got a degree in electrical engineering, I started with the 4 category, but a month later I passed PTO and PTB and the admission group (of course 2) was excellent and they gave me 5 th. And the 6-th category I received already in Kemerovo when I arrived at an enterprise where city electricians probably knew only how to screw in a light and start the starter. And the expression revision of the engine made them panic. This is the law of survival - I had two ways for the 1 to finally go down to the garbage cans and the second to spin like a squirrel in a wheel. Maybe I'm telling something from the realm of fiction? This reality was - a year and a half a nightmare - we tried to start an economy - but without money and without help it is unrealistic. About the installer of the tracks - this is still at school in the Criminal Procedure Code (if you remember they were in the USSR) I received the 4 category quite officially and then it came in handy for me in the school construction team. I worked as an electrician for instrumentation and automation for 4 of the year from 1984 to 1988 - my father added me as a master. Immediately after 8 miletki. With the scandal of course - I did not want ... Nevertheless, the automation shield that I collected around 1986 around the year still works - a couple of starters have been replaced and everything (I communicate with my former colleagues) Solid Waste Incinerator. After the army, a friend called me to work at JSC "Khimprom" as an apparatchik, and I agreed. First, the 4th category, of course, then the 5th category. The production of "Alkarene" is diphenyl that stinks so much that no shower helps, this is a sweatshirt that just crumbles after a week of work due to the fact that HCl is involved in the process ... The cleanest is aviation kerosene. And the catalyst is just in bags. "Alkaren" is too expensive a pleasure and therefore they stopped buying it in the required volume (at Soviet prices - 25 rubles per gram just like gold) "Alkaren" is a small production and there was nothing complicated there, I even learned everything without any problems and passed it. Then the production of DOPA. When I got there - I really didn’t succeed at first - I couldn’t understand anything, but when my team leader got sick and I had to change the message myself - I learned everything at once - I don’t want such an experience, of course, but in a stressful situation, when you temperatures around 200 degrees and high pressure steam - there you could just blow everything up and then it would be to me and the plant. It was then that I went to study as a technologist ... But the trouble is - how I weaned s / n began to give out Chinese down jackets, soap, and the like garbage. And I had to work on two jobs at the same time. Network marketing and shift plowing at the factory. I slept once every two days. Maybe I did something wrong? I can answer for everything that I wrote. Not only that, I can get to the same work and now remember everything that I learned then. Judge not lest ye be judged!
                      15. 0
                        2 January 2014 09: 54
                        hi Happy holiday to you!

                        Quote: dddym
                        ... to the elephant!


                        Are you as an elephant? If not a secret - Why did you choose your elephant?
                      16. -1
                        2 January 2014 10: 07
                        Yes, because the lord above, except for barking, did not prove anything. He screams that the techie didn’t bring any evidence - but he poured mud over me from head to toe. Am I supposed to say nothing in response? He screams that I write half the truth, but he didn’t give an example of it ... Vanity is a vice!
                      17. +1
                        2 January 2014 10: 47
                        Dmitry ... well, right ... stop! New Year has arrived ... holidays! And you swear.


                        Quote: I am a Russian
                        Quote: dddym
                        ... to the elephant!


                        Why did you choose your elephant?



                        Quote: dddym
                        yes because

                        Quote: dddym
                        Vanity


                        Dmitry ... lol vanity and you are inherent

                        Happy holiday again!
                      18. 0
                        2 January 2014 10: 52
                        Yes, of course - happy holiday! My posts look pompous perhaps. However, nobody gave him the right to insult me! He did not see my work and how I deal with it. Once again, I'm sorry if I ruined my mood, but I did not want to spoil it - at first I was ruined ...
                      19. 0
                        2 January 2014 07: 54
                        Quote: dddym
                        did not work as a team leader - because. that the 90s struck and everyone rushed to earn


                        Is this written by an adult? Blames other workers .... laughing "You quit, but they didn't make me a foreman"

                        Quote: dddym
                        you yourself - who?


                        laughing Who am I? I am human


                        Quote: dddym
                        Senior Assistant Junior Janitor?


                        and then you were mistaken. I am a techie.

                        Quote: dddym
                        And after such a conversation, you definitely didn’t give up to me as an employer.


                        And then they made a mistake. I do not recruit workers.
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                  4. +2
                    1 January 2014 22: 51
                    Quote: dddym
                    track installer

                    Такой?http://ochepyatki.ru/view_video.php?viewkey=8abfcf12c5bc6619db3b
                    A person who has worked at least a day in the FC will call him a fitter
                    1. 0
                      2 January 2014 06: 35
                      Are you also an expert? Why did you collapse from oak? Who gave you this right?
                      1. +2
                        2 January 2014 12: 06
                        Quote: dddym
                        Are you also an expert? Why did you collapse from oak? Who gave you this right?

                        Nope, I don’t depict, just a railwayman. And not from oak, but from a high-voltage support, and the right is secured by a climbing climb for dangerous working conditions laughing
              2. +3
                1 January 2014 13: 06
                I'm not in the warm South, I'm in the middle lane. And besides, it’s just not for me to show it - I worked both at the factory and in very poor conditions, when you rot rot alive. And the territory - the property of the people - and the people should allow, and if you want to pay developers s \ n - by the way it is even more reliable than a private company. And then, for example, at the Boguchanskaya HPP, they often do not pay salaries at all. Or they pay a month and then they throw people in the middle of the taiga, without light, food and warmth.
              3. +2
                1 January 2014 13: 13
                And if you are comfortable, then the oil workers pay a preferential tax, this means less than everyone else. And the lion's share of income flows abroad! Aren't you upset - the northerner? Not to strengthen the army, not to organize public order, not to charity at the end — not even to prizes to hard workers, but specifically to Switzerland, etc.
                1. +1
                  1 January 2014 19: 23
                  Quote: dddym
                  And if you are comfortable, then the oil workers pay a preferential tax, this means less than everyone else. And the lion's share of income flows abroad! Aren't you upset - the northerner?

                  It's a shame, right? In-in ... And it offends me crying
      2. +3
        31 December 2013 11: 43
        My dear Lonely! I leave this pleasure to you! Yes And happy New Year! drinks
        1. +8
          31 December 2013 12: 05
          Quote: retired
          My dear Lonely! I leave this pleasure to you! And happy New Year!

          drinks and I congratulate you on the New Year! but we’ll better leave the domestic policy on the conscience of those who personify it wink and then spoil yourself a festive mood !! lol
  7. +2
    31 December 2013 11: 04
    Masks are removed, bets are made, the correct Colt has laid down in a hand.
  8. Power
    +3
    31 December 2013 11: 41
    Jewish insight "There is not enough sausage for everyone!" hi
  9. +5
    31 December 2013 11: 58
    Of course, the most titanic shift has been the deposition of the "priesthood" of private property. This was the fundamental difference between the two systems: capitalist and socialist. The "sacred" right of private property guaranteed not the poor "citizens of the world" their confidence in the future ... Now the medieval right of the strong reigns ... Capital needs a "roof", and whoever has the most reliable "roof" will be there " capital ".
  10. +2
    31 December 2013 12: 29
    The world has not received its sight, it can only be thoughtful. I would like to wish "enlightenment" in the New Year to our security officials and, as a consequence, "enlightenment by force" of the Islamists (not to be confused with Masulman) who are in our country.
    Happy New Year everyone !!!
  11. +3
    31 December 2013 12: 31
    Happy New Year!!! Successes to Russia and its Allies- Army and Navy !!!
  12. +3
    31 December 2013 12: 56
    Chinese insight: the spread of Western values ​​- the path to the de-sovereignty
    The foresight of the Chinese leadership causes white envy. All the same, they are wiser than our democrats. Firmly slowly and confidently lead their country to prosperity and world leadership and do not succumb to the temptations of Western civilization, realizing that this is the road to nowhere. We would have such a guide in the nineties.
  13. +1
    31 December 2013 14: 05
    The first stage is the clarification of positions. They are completely opposite.
    The second is the degree of intransigence. Found out: boycott and complete antagonism.
    Well, that left the last stage.
    Option 2 - cold or hot.
  14. +4
    31 December 2013 14: 26
    All with the upcoming holiday!
    Hold on, Slavs!
  15. +5
    31 December 2013 14: 46
    Nothing good has ever come to Russia from the West.
    The packaging seems to be beautiful, but if you open Mr. - it is smelly and sticky.
    1. Grossfater
      +3
      31 December 2013 17: 39
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Nothing good has ever come to Russia from the West.
      The packaging seems to be beautiful, but if you open Mr. - it is smelly and sticky.

      Anek:
      - Your design is shit!
      - This is shit design ...
      - Hm, then nice.
  16. 0
    31 December 2013 15: 28
    Quote: Asgard
    This is a non-Russian flag, and the Russian one ...


    Here is the story, according to Wikipedia, that happened 4 years before the birth of Peter 1 (May 30 [June 9] 1672 - January 28 [February 8] 1725):

    For the manufacture of flags on April 9 (19), 1668, the tsar of the Siberian order was ordered to send “three hundred and ten arshins of kindyaks and one hundred and fifty arshins of taffeta, white and blue azure, from the exchange (that is, imported) goods to the shipbuilding business using banners and loggers” [21] [22] (according to other sources, at the request of Butler, the Palace Order replied that this did not happen in practice, and the Armory “builds banners, banners and warrants for military units and the governor, and what to do with the naval banner, the Tsar ordered him to be asked Butler, what is the custom in his country. ”Butler reported to the king that the flag of the Netherlands was a cloth consisting of three horizontal stripes of equal width: red (top), white (middle) and blue (bottom), resulting in the “Painting, which is still necessary for the shipbuilding, to dispute what is now bought overseas” was compiled, which indicates that “Kindyak-alaya”, white and blue matter [19] was purchased for the flags.

    Those. Petr1 seems to have nothing to do with the history of tricolor. Although the Dutch really were noted.

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Флаг_России#.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1
    .8F_.D1.84.D0.BB.D0.B0.D0.B3.D0.B0_.D0.A0.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.81.D0.B8.D0.B8
    1. Horde
      +2
      31 December 2013 16: 35
      The king ordered to ask him, Butler, what is the custom in his country. ” Butler reported to the king that the flag of the Netherlands is a cloth consisting of three horizontal stripes of equal width: red (top), white (middle) and blue (bottom), as a result of which the “Mural, which is still necessary for the ship structure, was made, to shout of what is now bought overseas ”, which indicates that“ kindyak-alaya ”, white and blue matter [19]) was purchased for the flags.


      tradikovskaya nonsense, where is Russia and where is Holland? they are not comparable in historical and political weight, well Butler reported about his flag next what? tsar ALEXEI WHICH TRADISKS called the SILENT one took up the flag of a WITHOUT COUNTRY in the future of the country of ADDICTANTS AND PIDA_RACES. All these stupidities are the LATEST, just GERMAN alterations of history. negative
    2. +9
      31 December 2013 16: 44
      Wikipedia is a continuation of the Jewish project, led by Jews and, moreover, foreign))))
      There they write about the Alexander Column that Monfferand made ... and then put in 2 hours a monolith weighing 800 tons with hemp ropes and wooden collars - DO YOU BELIEVE THIS ????? At least for the New Year))))))
      This is with modern materials and the level of technology - IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO !!!!

      So you quoted there only 6% of the truth-the rest was imposed on us and the rainbow flag (tricolor)) and Peter-1, and serfdom and the Slave in the galleys ....

      It is necessary to get RID of all this riffraff otherwise it will NOT be .....
      Who are the Russians ??? - this is a kind of Volnitsa, united not by the Earth, nor by laws and rulers, but by the Russian SPIRIT, we never give up, even when the capital of the country is surrendered to the enemy, our commanders are pure props, but we give them and represent them as the spokesman of the Russian Spirit ....
      We Slavs are the only ones who LIVE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN TWO WORLDS (right-yav)) that is, those who can talk DIRECTLY WITH THE WORLD Yaril, which was called then - to praise ..... From here the Slavs went ....

      Something I talked today (drank, I'm sorry scoundrel))) A lot of thoughts from nadMirya comes, I do not know what to write))))
      On the occasion of the Slavs, I WANT YOU TO WISH TO SEE SOON, judging by the minuses to my previous post, Well, something you do not want to deal with your inner world and see the ENVIRONMENT as it is in the case))))
      You are all needed, the Russians are not leaving anyone, but it will be hard to drag you forward (stubborn and slow-witted))))
      People Au wake up, try with YOUR OWN FOOT to go into the FUTURE .... Quickly cross out (OUR MINUSES)))))))) And they turn into a miracle in the addition of knowledge in the brain))))
      Remember and I promise you - THIS TIME WE DO NOT LOSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. +5
        31 December 2013 21: 33
        Asgard! I read ... fool Went to smoke ...recourse But I agree with all the provisions!
        Happy New Year dear!!
        1. +1
          2 January 2014 09: 19
          Quote: retired
          Asgard! I read ... fool Went to smoke ... recourse But I agree with all the provisions!

          He writes great! Unobtrusively and every sentence makes you think ..!
  17. nikolayur
    +5
    31 December 2013 15: 34
    Well done Chinese, in the sense that they saw what values ​​we acquired in the 90s, thanks to EBN
  18. +5
    31 December 2013 17: 11
    Quote: Asgard
    We Slavs are the only ones who LIVE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN TWO WORLDS (right-yav)) that is, those who can talk DIRECTLY WITH THE WORLD Yaril, which was called then - to praise ..... From here the Slavs went ....

    Where did the word go Slavs many hypotheses and versions:
    - in the west Sklave (slaves) and therefore they consider us Slavs, but the slaves of us were always vague and free-minded;
    - Someone thinks that one of the brothers by the name is consonant with Slaven (something like this);
    - further, that from the "Word" type they spoke in words and so on;
    - more common from the Vedas like the type "Glorified" the gods and therefore the Slavs;
    - from you is another version.
    And if you drip further, then there were the Aryans and similar peoples, or one people and the Slavs most likely left them, like many other peoples settled around all corners of Eurasia and even America. It is difficult to say exactly where the Slavs went from and why they are called so, but they were also called storks because they moved quickly and in large groups.
    Happy New Year to all a blue-green horse. And I would like that in the new year fewer Trojan horses would be in everyone's life and, above all, in Russia.
  19. Grossfater
    +3
    31 December 2013 17: 25
    Quote: makarov
    "e] ... and then you are used to calling the podzabornogo bugger" noble "gay.

    Masterpiece.
  20. 11111mail.ru
    +5
    31 December 2013 18: 33
    Russian epiphany: civilization hostility of the West

    If the author is trying to impress us with this discovery, then in vain. Danilevsky Nikolai Yakovlevich in 1863 published his work “Russia and Europe”.
  21. +1
    31 December 2013 19: 02
    The photo for the article is no less eloquent than the text :)
  22. +3
    31 December 2013 19: 31
    Firstly, I congratulate you all on a holiday! And everything else, despite the politicians WE WILL WIN!
  23. s1н7т
    +1
    1 January 2014 01: 47
    What, nah. "epiphany" ?! Clash of interests, nothing more, alas. And the interests of the peoples of the Russian Federation have nothing to do with it. Whoever believes otherwise is stupid. Here's to me, a citizen of this strange country, what if the pin-do-si dies? Nothing. The PRC's policy seems to be more balanced and independent of the world market situation - glory to the CCP! And our EP, headed by the "guarantor", is known for only one thing - the thirst for profit and the preservation of profits. I hope this year will bring their end closer.
    1. +2
      1 January 2014 05: 17
      From the fact that ia itself dies, there is probably no sense - there 90% of people live normally. But the sense of the fact that their ideology of globalism, homosexuality, interference in the family and personal life under the guise of shitty democratic values ​​will die is what a sense!
      Quote: c1n7
      And our EP, headed by the "guarantor", is known for only one thing - the thirst for profit and the preservation of profits. I hope this year will bring their end closer.

      About EP I agree to 100%. But United Russia is not Russia, but only ice skaters ... lyse, which are full everywhere. They are used as a condom and thrown into the trash of history.
    2. yur
      yur
      +1
      1 January 2014 15: 03
      "What if the pin-do-this dies? Nothing." But I will be pleased.
  24. +4
    1 January 2014 05: 13
    I will add to this the insight of the simple American people. Russia and Putin among ordinary Americans become the personification of the struggle for traditional values, as opposed to homosexuals and juveniles, and the struggle for statehood, as opposed to global bankers.
    1. +1
      1 January 2014 17: 12
      Do not give the wish for the real ... The overwhelming number of pin.dos is AGGRESSIVE AND Dumb. It was ALWAYS rejoiced at problems in Russia. Until now, they consider us ENEMIES. And here you hang snot on their account and enter local misleading. I've been there ... talked ...
      1. 0
        1 January 2014 23: 14
        The old forum users will not let lie that I wrote the same thing as you recently. Well, or rummage through the archives of the Military Review my posts about pi.dosiya
        I’m not hanging snot here and I’m not misleading anyone. The way it is. Do not believe me, go to the American Thinker and read there posts of ordinary Americans about Russia. I myself was surprised
  25. stroporez
    +1
    1 January 2014 10: 22
    then the world has realized the current state of things --- of course it’s good ....... but for survival, the world must clearly recognize that the West, for its own survival, will not hesitate for a moment to ponder the world ...... ... therefore the task of peace ------- the first to point the West .......
  26. +1
    1 January 2014 14: 12
    Before you do something, you need to realize and understand what to do and how. That is why, in order not to make emptiness or garbage, one must first clearly understand the reality of determining the usefulness of the harmful.
    So it turns out, if realized and understood - this is the main thing and now you just need to move in the right direction, but periodically look around and adjust the direction, and then again deceive, be fooled, muddied, replaced and put to sleep.
  27. +1
    1 January 2014 19: 28
    America is an empire of lies.
  28. +2
    1 January 2014 19: 50
    Quote: Metlik
    America is an empire of lies.

    Not America, but those who control it and you will not see from it - these are gray cardinals (the invisible enemy). A small bipod like presidents (managers) and their advisers are heralds and puppets.
  29. +2
    1 January 2014 23: 27
    Here are some Messrs. Accusing me of misleading you and hanging snot about America. They, they say, are all enemies there, but I get something like a troll and deceive everyone.
    Old forum users: Alexander Romanov, Apollo, Vadivak, Esaul and others. It may be remembered that I wrote even more tough things not just about the United States, but about all Americans in general. And he wrote sincerely, since he himself lived and worked there in the 90s and snatched to the fullest.
    I tell you again, something has changed there. Somewhere the people clicked. I don’t know what this is connected with, but I’m sure that
    Quote: I think so
    The overwhelming number of pin.dos is AGGRESSIVE AND STUPIDLY DIL., Which ALWAYS rejoiced at problems in Russia

    is no longer quite the correct picture. They are now more worried about the aggression of gomosyatiny, the loss of all kinds of "civil rights" and impending poverty. And then they heard the position of Russia about traditional values, a strong state, rejection of globalization, etc. And they themselves seized on these ideas. And now, something really began to change in their brains.
    1. 0
      1 January 2014 23: 46
      Quote: Irokez
      Not America, but those who control it and you will not see from it - these are gray cardinals (the invisible enemy). A small bipod like presidents (managers) and their advisers are heralds and puppets.


      Here are the enemies of humanity! Bankers, stockbrokers, slack managers who have built personal enrichment into a cult! In the cult of money!

      Quote: Magadan
      They are now more worried about the aggression of gomosyatiny, the loss of all kinds of "civil rights" and impending poverty. And here they heard the position of Russia about traditional values, a strong state, rejection of globalization, etc. And they themselves seized on these ideas. And now, something really began to change in their brains.


      I have nothing against ordinary people in America! The same simple hard workers, clerks, attendants are normal people who live with human values, family!

      So Magadan calm down and do not take everything to heart! Live and work for the good of yourself, the country! I think it is not easy for you in a foreign land!
  30. I never do it
    +1
    1 January 2014 23: 51
    for i think so
    Do not give the wish for the real ... The overwhelming number of pin.dos is AGGRESSIVE AND Dumb. It was ALWAYS rejoiced at problems in Russia. Until now, they consider us ENEMIES. And here you hang snot on their account and enter local misleading. I've been there ... talked ...

    Why be surprised? Shtatniks are doing their job, and at the same time, almost every action movie has an inset: “... some sort of criminal showdown. Either Puerto Ricans, or Colombians, or Russians. ” Or "... sabotage again is the work of Iranian, Iraqi or Russian terrorists."
    Propaganda is a delicate matter. “Empires of good” need to be justified, somewhere to attach the most huge military-industrial complex on the planet.
  31. 0
    2 January 2014 08: 58
    Quote: Magadan
    And here they heard the position of Russia about traditional values, a strong state, the rejection of globalization, etc.

    When Kremlin officials start talking in some Valdai or Mashuk about protecting "traditional values," laughter makes me laugh. What kind of "traditional values" do they think they are? About securities? About dough and cuts? They themselves are pro-Western inhabitants by origin, and they think something completely different. And how they have fun quietly - everyone has long known. How many bisexuals are among the current “elite”, many also know. And what “strong family men” they are, we do not need to rub. To begin with, they are mentally completely independent, repeating the idiotic expression taken from the West “traditional values”. The term is thoroughly mercantile, implying that everything can be measured in money. If only love for the Fatherland, for loved ones and for children - everything is measured in money. Therefore, other words are better suited here - not values, but ideals or shrines. Even so, they are desperately insecure, feeding on Western intellectual scraps. It’s not enough to invent something of their own. Well, god with these terms. Values ​​are values. The question is different. Is it possible that in “Putinism” with the faces of Kudrin, Ulyukaev, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov and Nabiulina, can a Russian start a strong family with three children? There is no housing - the prices of houses and apartments are unbearable. Read, too, no work. New productions are being created - with Gulkin Nos, the roads in Russia are being built to the smallest extent than in the RSFSR in 1988. Salaries are scanty, almost everything is paid, people are head over heels in debt. Instead of the serious support of childbearing among Russians, it is a mocking “maternal capital”, which helps you little. And this economy is aimed at one thing: to reduce the indigenous population, to exploit precisely vices, to simplify people to cattle-consumers with poor needs. And here we are about some values!
  32. 0
    2 January 2014 09: 14
    Quote: Sid.74
    So Magadan calm down and do not take everything to heart! Live and work for the good of yourself, the country! I think it is not easy for you in a foreign land!

    I am joining! A man’s soul hurts .. he writes sincerely ..!
  33. +1
    2 January 2014 09: 46
    Quote: nikolayur
    Well done Chinese, in the sense that they saw what values ​​we acquired in the 90s, thanks to EBN

    I think so too .. Russia is always going ahead we will destroy everything with blood we start to choke and then we scratch our turnips "Who is to blame and what to do?" And we begin to heroically recover ... crying But the most interesting after all these troubles, we are becoming stronger and more powerful .. Paradox.!)))
  34. -1
    2 January 2014 09: 56
    Quote: MIKHAN
    But the most interesting after all these troubles, we are becoming more powerful ..

    Do you imagine the way of Russia?


    Or is it beneficial for someone to keep us in ignorance ...


  35. +3
    2 January 2014 12: 58
    Quote: demotivator
    Is it possible that in “Putinism” with the faces of Kudrin, Ulyukaev, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov and Nabiulina, can a Russian start a strong family with three children? There is no housing - the prices of houses and apartments are unbearable. Read, too, no work. New productions are being created - with Gulkin Nos, the roads in Russia are being built to the smallest extent than in the RSFSR in 1988. Salaries are scanty, almost everything is paid, people are head over heels in debt. Instead of the serious support of childbearing among Russians, it is a mocking “maternal capital”, which helps you little. And this economy is aimed at one thing: to reduce the indigenous population, to exploit precisely vices, to simplify people to cattle-consumers with poor needs. And here we are about some values!

    Yes, you are my friend, a critic who has not yet seen the light. It is felt that your ideal, Lenin, who terrorized tsarist Russia with its correct ideals, and after an interim government that simply gave power to the Bolsheviks, drowned all the sacred and all the values ​​that some politicians are trying to revive in blood. You probably don’t know or just keep quiet that under the Bolsheviks, the elite of spiritual values ​​was cut out and shot across Russia from students to former military and educated people.
    Bela Kun and Zemlyachka in Crimea do not remind you of anything (by the way Udaltsov is her descendant), as well as Gaidars and Pozners and many other writers even in those days, but this is silent.
    And right now, having in the past such a large baggage of antivalues, talk about the current government that it is so bad that it destroys the people and imposes values ​​that are not peculiar to us.
    - maternal capital for you is nothing (very much what does not bother), if not monetary, then it is quite real in life.
    - When were the apartment prices small? Where did you fall from?
    - which production is not? During the Yeltsenomics and liberal laws that, during it, have been digging into our economy for a whole generation, we will restore the economy and raise production. Say thanks to your unloved GDP that you kept the military commissar from further sale and returned oil and gas to Russia's mainstream, rather than somewhere there.
    - salaries are low, but in terms of income it’s not like the capital where a lot of finance has been concentrated in the liberal economy.
    - Where is Kudrin right now? Yeah ....
    - in your opinion, "there are a lot of conversations, but there are no deeds," but even if you say nothing, then even nothing will move right now or in the future. You want to wake up and immediately get into a new country - you won't get it.
    - the values ​​of consumption and democracy, who introduced us through the media to the dashing 90s? And right now, try to ban, so liberalists with foam at the mouth will yell at censorship and the dictates of power.
    But right now, with "putinomiya" as you say, there are attempts to somehow break everything to our Russian values ​​and there are a lot of problems and you can't change everything at once (even the term of presidential rule will not be enough, therefore, probably under the Democrats, the president has been ruling for 4 years so that he cannot rebuild ). In the government itself, the struggle is for priorities and values, and until there is a winner, we must hold and support our true Russian values ​​from below, gritting our teeth and washing our faces with blood.
    But the Leninist revolutions as in 1917 or 2017 we do not need, enough to eat and have suffered. All these new revolutionaries are the Bolsheviks and Trotskyists.
  36. 0
    2 January 2014 23: 26
    Quote: Metlik
    America is an empire of lies.

    And the evil empire.
  37. stroporez
    0
    4 January 2014 12: 12
    after the word nigger about the "exclusivity" of the Americans ... we can say ---- US embarked on the path of building developed fascism ...... I think very soon the ordinary Americans "procuration" all the "charms" of the Gestapo and kntslagerey .... ......... and the rest of the world will get ...