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Myths about the future incapacity of the Eurasian Economic Union

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The Eurasian Economic Union (abbreviation - EEC) is a future union of sovereign states, based on a single economic space with supranational authorities and the possible use of a common currency. At this stage, the main integration processes within the framework of the future UES concern the Russian Federation, Belarus and Kazakhstan. It is planned that the organization will take effect from January 2015 of the year and by that time (and subsequently) can expand due to the adoption of other states - in particular, Armenia, for which the so-called “road map” for joining the Customs Union, which is a kind of on entering the EEC.


From the first days of the emergence of the idea of ​​creating the Eurasian Economic Union and from the first steps to translate this idea into reality, the waves of criticism of the future union began to grow. And the waves rolled in both from the inside of those states that were on the path of economic integration, and from the outside. The main theses of criticism of the “conception” of the Eurasian Economic Union can be divided into several, let's say, thematic groups.

The first group (from the internal Russian opposition environment): The UES is created by Vladimir Putin under himself in order to prolong his presence at the helm of power in Russia indefinitely and, if possible, to extend this influence to the post-Soviet space.

Group Two (from certain representatives of the Belarusian and Kazakh public): The EEC is being created so that Russia can absorb the sovereignty of Kazakhstan and Belarus, turning these countries into analogues of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and exerting hard pressure on them.

Group Three (from Western "friends"): The Eurasian Economic Union is a new version of the USSR, which is created by "authoritarian-totalitarian" politicians, and therefore, the very fact of such a creation is aimed at potential aggression against "world democracy" and the formation of a new threat to " progressive "West.

Over time, these theses began to complement each other, actively cultivated in the “right” press with the presence of far-reaching conclusions about the “demonic” essence of the future Eurasian Union. Particularly impressionable citizens (both inside the future single union space and beyond), on the basis of the materials presented by that very “right democratic” press, have begun to even think. Speculation on the basis of played out imagination took shape into whole pictures about how hard it will be for them to exist “under Putin’s oppression” in “deprived of independence” countries, and even with the “growing threat of progressive and flourishing Western democracy.” From such a “horror”, many began to experience pressure spikes, loose stools, and then an ambulance, hospital, pills, injections, reports in their own blogs ...
But either in vain the above mentioned liquid stool, or something else prevented people seeking to find a reason to criticize the very idea of ​​creating a Eurasian Economic Union, to approach the issue of what is called a cool head. It prevented that far from every adherent of the criticism of the EEC wants to look at the situation from different angles and, most importantly, not everyone is ready to give an unequivocal answer to the question: what, the Eurasian Economic Union is a unique precedent on our sinful planet?

In fact, the mentioned adherents of criticism of the formation of the EEC are in the majority perfectly aware that there are many such unions on the world map, that each of these unions is distinguished by one or another efficiency and one or another set of aspirations of its leaders. Moreover, alliances of this kind exist on almost all continents, often (to a certain degree) intersecting with each other.

Let us give one example: an example of the current (and at the same time being formed) union today, which debunks the myth of the future incapacity of the EEC.

UNASUR (aka UNASUR or the Declaration of Cusco, aka the Union of South American Nations). The union includes the countries of the so-called Andean Community (Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru and Colombia), the countries of MERCOSUR (by the way, another territorial and economic supranational entity), as well as Chile, Guyana and Suriname. The mentioned MERCOSUR (economic and political agreement between certain countries of South America (Brazil, Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina, Venezuela) with the release of a common market).

Myths about the future incapacity of the Eurasian Economic Union


The legal birth of UNASUR, the South American political and economic union organization, took place in December 2004. In less than four years, a unified defense council was formed, and the formation of a single parliament of UNASUR began almost simultaneously. Two years later (in 2010), the officially elected head of the union, the secretary general, appeared at UNASUR. Then Nestor Kirchner (ex-president of Argentina) became the general secretary. To date, Ali Rodriguez Araque (Venezuela) is the General Secretary of UNASUR. The existence and activities of the Union of South American Nations is based on the 2004 Declaration of the Year and the 2008 Constitutional Treaty of the Year.

Since the advent of the UNASUR Constitutional Treaty, more than five years have passed, for three years the Union has elected heads (secretaries-general), two main political centers have been chosen - in Bolivia and Ecuador, and in fact none of the countries in UNASUR has lost sovereignty, nor slipped into economic dependence on other states of the Union. None of the countries have stated that one of the presidents of another country wants to usurp power, turning all other countries of Unasur into markets and raw materials appendages. The work is carried out quite calmly, the outlined plans are being carried out, the political centers are working according to the established regulations, trade is going on, the economy is growing.

If we talk about the growth rates of the economies of individual countries of the Union of South American Nations, then such growth, for example, in the European Union (another political and economic education on the world map) could only be envied.
Economic growth in Uruguay from 2008 in average annual terms is 5,9% (as a result of the global crisis in 2010, the economy of this country showed Unasur results in 8,9%!). The average annual growth of the Venezuelan economy over the same period was 2,1%, Bolivia - 5,1%, Suriname - almost 4%, Chile - about 5,5%. The list of Unasur states with a rather noticeable economic growth (in comparison with the same European Union, dancing near zero) can be continued further. The volume of mutual trade after the beginning of the work of UNASUR (since 2004) with the simultaneous removal of bureaucratic barriers has grown almost 3,5 times! GDP per capita increased from 2008 to 14%.

In Ecuador, they do not shout that Brazil will swallow up its economy, Chileans are not outraged about why the political center is chosen in Bolivia, the Suriname press does not go under the headings “Venezuelan Secretary General - a blow to Unasur” ... Yes, and the so-called West does not splash poisonous saliva about democratic values ​​", even aware of the fact that a collective defense system is being built in South America ... He would probably have sprinkled, but only all this poisonous saliva for Unasur is puff, through which you can safely step over and continue working integration of the South American continent.

So why does building a Eurasian Economic Union cause such a fever in certain circles? Why are excessively “heated” segments of the population of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus sure that someone inside the future EEC will surely absorb someone, economically crush and politically trample? Well, the West can be understood: forgive, Lord, “partners” are not at all profitable for the supercompetitive (both economic and political) to be revived in the post-Soviet space, but what confuses us? .. Or the idea of ​​further disunity and fragmentation, fed by phobias about the tug of a blanket over yourself by some of the politicians, better than the idea of ​​civilized economic integration? ..
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  1. VADEL
    VADEL 30 December 2013 08: 51
    +11
    aimed at potential aggression against the "world democracy" and the formation of a new threat to the "progressive" West.

    “World democracy”, “progressive” West! Enough of the West to make people and monkeys in the jungle laugh with these ridiculous and absurd phrases.
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 30 December 2013 09: 15
      +6
      The western version, as always, is the most crazy of all. Degenerates and perverts, so what to take from them, except for analyzes.
      1. Russian
        Russian 30 December 2013 09: 43
        -40%
        So much for stability under Putin! Another explosion in Volgograd. Tolerance, you see. It comes to the point that the nationality of the terrorists is already hiding. Everywhere bribery and corruption. And let's go on hawking what they will tell you on TV, everything is fine with us, the US will fall apart soon, the European Union too, GDP is growing and so on.
        Condolences to all Volgograd residents, this is a common grief.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 30 December 2013 10: 18
          +29
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          So much for stability under Putin! Another explosion in Volgograd.


          Someone again decided to play a game called "If I were the director of a state farm". So, by the way, during the 2013 year about three hundred terrorist attacks were prevented, as many terrorists were killed and more than 50 bases in the mountains were covered. And for your safety dozens of police and military, of different nationalities and beliefs, are dying. And this is only so that some pretzel could easily spoil the forums on the graves of these heroes.
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            1. Zymran
              Zymran 30 December 2013 10: 55
              +6
              Quote: Canep
              In South America there are no such huge reserves of oil, gas, coal, firewood in the end, nickel, copper


              Well yes.

              Among the minerals of South America, ores of ferrous and non-ferrous metals (copper, tin, tungsten, molybdenum, silver, antimony, lead and zinc) of magmatic and metamorphic origin, which are mined in the Andes, are distinguished. Platinum, gold, silver, and precious stones are also mined in the mountains. On the highlands of the eastern part of the continent, large deposits of zirconium, beryl, bismuth, titanium, uranium, and nickel are associated with outcrops of igneous rocks; deposits of iron, manganese - with outputs of metamorphic rocks; bauxite deposits containing aluminum - with weathering crust. Deposits of oil, natural gas and coal are confined to platform troughs, intermountain and foothill basins. In a desert climate with the biochemical decomposition of seabird droppings, deposits of Chilean nitrate formed.
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            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 30 December 2013 12: 09
              +7
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              The guys do their duty, and the authorities only promise and hang noodles on their ears.

              You contradict yourself. Someone gives an order to the guys, someone gives information, which is also obtained by order. And as far as I remember, Putin did not shake hands with the terrorists, as the Yeltsins and Lebedevs did, and did not sign humiliating treacherous peace treaties, which is why, in the Chechen side, the officers often left their tongues "They owe us a favor after Khasavyurt."

              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              oh well, come on, you find the news how many guys died during these 14 years of Putin’s presidency / prime minister? How many attacks were there? Yes, many times more than before him!

              If you are so sure of this, then you have numbers. And anyone adequately knows the situation with terrorist attacks in 90x.
              1. zvereok
                zvereok 30 December 2013 19: 12
                -6
                Putin did not shake hands with the terrorists, as did the Yeltsins and Lebedevs,


                Oh?
                1. Nick
                  Nick 1 January 2014 21: 20
                  0
                  Quote: zvereok
                  Oh?

                  Wow ...?
                  1. zvereok
                    zvereok 2 January 2014 16: 50
                    +2
                    And who is Kadyrov?
            2. Baemaley99
              Baemaley99 30 December 2013 16: 41
              +7
              And what kind of "vlast" YOU read as an alternative? Power UB..kov "bulk-American" sense?
            3. Setrac
              Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 37
              +1
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              Islamism is thriving, and they dick.

              What does Islamism have to do with it? Terrorists are sent to Russia by Western intelligence agencies.
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              Well, well, come on, you find the news how many guys died during these 14 years of Putin's presidency / prime minister? How many attacks were there? Yes, many times more than before him!

              Because before him they did what the West would say, and there were fewer explosions (and if there were less, I didn’t count).
            4. Nick
              Nick 1 January 2014 21: 18
              0
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              The guys do their duty, and the authorities only promise and hang noodles on their ears. Islamism is thriving, and they dick. And you apparently protect this power? Well, well, come on, you find the news how many guys died during these 14 years of Putin's presidency / prime minister? How many attacks were there? Yes, many times more than before him!

              So, do you think Putin is producing extremists, and the guys are fighting them against the will of the commander-in-chief ...?
              Oh well...
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        2. Canep
          Canep 30 December 2013 10: 51
          +6
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          So much for stability under Putin!

          I have the opportunity to watch not only Russian television, but also Western (CNN EuroNews), and delusions on these channels seem unmeasured. Ask how many terrorist attacks were in Russia in 1995-1999 (before Putin) and how many people died.
          1. Russian
            Russian 30 December 2013 11: 50
            -13%
            Quote: Canep
            Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
            So much for stability under Putin!

            I have the opportunity to watch not only Russian television, but also Western (CNN EuroNews), and delusions on these channels seem unmeasured. Ask how many terrorist attacks were in Russia in 1995-1999 (before Putin) and how many people died.

            And now how much is dying? It's just that this is not covered by the media, and do not forget that the peak of the Chechen war was then. And now all these militants have sat on warm places in power, the same Kadyrov is an example of this. And they do what they want.
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 30 December 2013 12: 13
              +6
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              Kadyrov is an example of this. And they do what they want.

              Yes, they want it and do it. So much so that the bandit underground from Chechnya to Dagestan and Ingushetia migrated, as the usurper strangled them so much in fraternal embrace, especially thanks for his father.
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            3. Current 72
              Current 72 31 December 2013 01: 58
              +3
              Listen, you change your nickname, you’re Russian from me, like my hammer, and I’m writing to you Belarusian!
            4. Setrac
              Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 39
              +1
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              Russian

              Change your nickname to a Jew, he suits you.
            5. Nick
              Nick 1 January 2014 21: 24
              0
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              And now how much is dying? It's just that this is not covered by the media, and do not forget that the peak of the Chechen war was then.


              And who ended the war in Chechnya?
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              now all these militants have sat down on warm places in power, the same Kadyrov is an example of this. And they do what they want.

              Yeah, pacified Saakashvilli in 2008 in Abkhazia and South Ossetia ... And pacified very effectively ...
        3. mirag2
          mirag2 30 December 2013 12: 29
          0
          Concealment of nationality and corruption of officials are two different things, do not confuse.
          If you always ring that 70% of visitors from the Caucasus make in Moscow, there will be a great rebellion in Asia, not only in Biryulyovo, but throughout Moscow, nobody needs it.
          And the authorities all the more have to sacrifice something and sacrifice for the sake of the general order.
          It’s impossible anyway.
          1. Iamfromrurik
            Iamfromrurik 30 December 2013 13: 53
            +2
            Quote: mirag2
            Concealment of nationality and corruption of officials are two different things, do not confuse.
            If you always ring that 70% of visitors from the Caucasus make in Moscow, there will be a great rebellion in Asia, not only in Biryulyovo, but throughout Moscow, nobody needs it.
            And the authorities all the more have to sacrifice something and sacrifice for the sake of the general order.
            It’s impossible anyway.

            Or maybe in order to make it more orderly, you need to make sure that people from Asia and the Caucasus do not come to Moscow? You said yourself "you need to sacrifice something." Well, let's donate visitors from Asia and the Caucasus.
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 30 December 2013 14: 09
              0
              Quote: IamFromRurik
              Or maybe in order to have more order, you need to make sure that people from Asia and the Caucasus do not come to Moscow?

              I can somehow imagine a ban on the entry into the Russian Federation of immigrants from Central Asia, although not enthusiastic about this idea. But to prohibit the citizens of their country from coming to the capital, motivating this by the fact that some people from your region have not found their faces ... nonsense.
              Well, let's say it happened. Then, 80% of all crimes will be committed by Russians ... and now what? Or is a Caucasian crime and a Russian crime not the same thing?
              1. Iamfromrurik
                Iamfromrurik 30 December 2013 17: 17
                +1
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                I can somehow imagine a ban on the entry into the Russian Federation of immigrants from Central Asia, although not enthusiastic about this idea. But to prohibit the citizens of their country from coming to the capital, motivating this by the fact that some people from your region have not found their faces ... nonsense.

                This is very easy to do - the Caucasus should be quarantined, as this is a region of instability, with a sluggish civil war. In the Caucasus, a special access regime should be established.


                Quote: sledgehammer102
                Well, let's say it happened. Then, 80% of all crimes will be committed by Russians ... and now what? Or is a Caucasian crime and a Russian crime not the same thing?

                That's when 80% will commit the Russians, then we'll talk, but while 80% commit "non-Russians" it is somehow wrong.
                1. igor.borov775
                  igor.borov775 30 December 2013 19: 58
                  +3
                  Hi, Congratulations to all Happy New Year, To the attention of all the zealous figures who have appeared here, In the distant menacing years of the revolution, the bright representative of the fair half of humanity has long dealt a severe blow to the pillars of true democracies, How quickly we forget and chase after beautiful rags, It’s with of those distant times, true democrats rendered their verdict, Russia as a state as a whole should not exist, Or is it nonsense and deception again if you can, For all the empty gods then a decree was adopted for the first time in the world that proclaimed and enshrined in law, All people are equal regardless skin color and religious affiliation, They have all the rights to work for study and treatment, Everyone has the right to be promoted to government posts and represent the interests of all the peoples of our country, With this decree, women received equal rights for the first time in the world, We must be proud of our ancestors and try to be worthy of them, And true democrats at that time almost five centuries created their own colony empires and could not afford such horror as equal rights, All of us have been told lately that we suck, we are not mature enough to democracy, Yes, we have many problems, many are screaming, but they are trying to somehow budge, And it is very painful for me to watch and read some komenty a feeling that they have all overlooked the great and see everything only in black is their right, But you can not distort, RESPECTING ALL GOOD
                2. Setrac
                  Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: IamFromRurik
                  This is very easy to do - the Caucasus should be quarantined

                  I have a counter proposal - enclose your house with barbed wire, quarantine all of Russia, and preferably the whole world, you will be the only one with such a bright personality.
              2. Iamfromrurik
                Iamfromrurik 30 December 2013 17: 18
                -1
                In general, your post is a confession of the Soviet liberal, in its purest form, you can’t imagine any better.
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 41
              +1
              Quote: IamFromRurik
              Well, let's donate visitors from Asia and the Caucasus.

              Indicate your place of residence in the profile before submitting such proposals. And it turns out like two-faced Western provocateurs.
        4. Iamfromrurik
          Iamfromrurik 30 December 2013 13: 51
          +2
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          So much for stability under Putin! Another explosion in Volgograd. Tolerance, you see. It comes to the point that the nationality of the terrorists is already hiding. Everywhere bribery and corruption. And let's go on hawking what they will tell you on TV, everything is fine with us, the US will fall apart soon, the European Union too, GDP is growing and so on.
          Condolences to all Volgograd residents, this is a common grief.

          By the way, in the USSR in 70-80 they also showed stories on TV that the United States would soon fall apart. As a result, the USSR collapsed.
        5. Andrey KZ
          Andrey KZ 30 December 2013 16: 08
          +9
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          It comes to the point that the nationality of the terrorists is already hiding.

          The terrorists do not have a nationality, they are creatures, without clan and tribe.
        6. dark_65
          dark_65 30 December 2013 17: 30
          +2
          Hey, shell-shocked, can you calm down?
        7. Stinger
          Stinger 30 December 2013 19: 13
          0
          Favorite liberal song. I forgot to add about the elections. Dishonest. No, man, all the power in hemoglobin!
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        9. Setrac
          Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 34
          0
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          It comes to the point that the nationality of the terrorists is already hiding.

          Not a Chechen! Why don't we detonate bombs in the USA and Britain? Better is the oil terminals of the US allies. Why is Russia not responding to aggression?
        10. Nick
          Nick 1 January 2014 21: 14
          +2
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          So much for stability under Putin! Another explosion in Volgograd. Tolerance, do you understand

          Honor you, so Russia has the whole problem in the lead, and the problem is that in recent years Russia has begun to act as a sovereign state that denies any radicalism, both Western-tolerant liberal and radical pan-Islamism (not to be confused with traditional Islam) .
          But with the leader, I think there is no problem in Russia. GDP is the leader that Russia needs now.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 1 January 2014 21: 33
            +2
            It's just that Putin is already a symbolic figure and is associated with Russia! One dubious "pleasure" to read the Western press and realize that if the article did not contain the words Putin Russia Orthodoxy! That article is not finalized! laughing

            I recently read an article about the finals that says -
            “Putin’s main danger is that he is a normal Russian person. This is his main threat to the West. After all, this means that he will normalize Russia, says Johan Beckman. “There is a healthy patriotism in Russia, which is not in the West at all!”
            I feel like saying come on and do not believe my eyes!
            Here is a link to an article for anyone interested.
            http://zakonvremeni.ru/component/content/article/7-3-/14371-glavnaya-opasnost-pu
            tina - v-tom-chto-on-normalnyj-russkij-chelovek.html
        11. Cherdak
          Cherdak 5 January 2014 17: 03
          +1
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          And let's continue to hawk, what will they tell you on TV, we are fine, the United States will soon collapse, the European Union too, GDP is growing and so on.


          ... American assistance to Russia from 1991 to 2011 amounted to 19.6 billion dollars (the exact figure is 19606137429.00 US dollars).
          • Of these, 3.8 billion (3796642134.00) were addressed to Russian foreign agents through the USAID “non-governmental organization” funded by the US Department of State (for example, the line that USAID receives funding through the US Department of State - on page 155 of the US Budget (2013) )
          • 6.7 mld (6761848403.00) - through “other Active Grants Programs”.
          • 3.9 mld. (3894601029.00) - through the US Department of Defense (the so-called Department of Defense Security Assistance).
          • 247 million (247590395.00) - through other state assistance programs (the so-called Other State Assistance).
          • 4.95 mld. were aimed at "economic assistance", "the fight against drugs", "humanitarian assistance", "AIDS prevention", "children's funds", "development assistance", "the fight against terrorism", etc.
          One can imagine how many American agents bred in Russia.
          http://politobzor.net/show-10587-20-mlrd-dollarov-grantov-ssha-za-20-let.html
      2. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 30 December 2013 10: 11
        +8
        Quote: Max Otto
        The western version, as always, is the most crazy of all. Degenerates and perverts, so what to take from them, except for analyzes.


        By the way, the Eurasian Economic Community will have a much stronger union than the EU itself, since everything is really on an equal footing and partnership, and not on the policy of neocoloniolism ... when countries on the outskirts use central countries as blood donors, but for depletion the resources of the former refuse to help them, forcing the citizens of these countries to pay for the sins of their populists, who gathered thousands of rallies under the blue flags of the EU.
        1. Canep
          Canep 30 December 2013 10: 52
          +3
          Yes, and the so-called West does not spray poisonous saliva on the “attack on democratic values”, even realizing the fact that a collective defense system is being built in South America ...
          In South America, there are no such huge reserves of oil, gas, coal, firewood in the end, nickel, copper (in the Ekibastuz region where I live, 2 polymetallic open pits are being built), etc. For this reason, this continent is not very interesting to the West. About the division of the Arctic, I generally urinate.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 30 December 2013 13: 37
          +7
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          Incidentally, the Eurasian Economic Community will have a much stronger union than the EU

          That’s why the purchased media will be hysterical - "The Russian special services are developing a plan for the dismemberment of Ukraine and the inclusion of its individual regions in the Russian Federation," the "authoritative" Ukrainian newspaper "Zerkalo Nedeli" writes about this.
          Where are you going with your "predictions"! They forge a horse, and the toad stretches out its paw!
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 30 December 2013 20: 59
            +3
            Quote: Egoza
            That’s why the media bought from us will be worn out

            So there is something to be hysterical for. The role of the purchased media is to be the voice of those with the money. In the case of "Mirror" - the voice of the EU. Elena, hi !
  2. Yves762
    Yves762 30 December 2013 08: 53
    +3
    Another explosion in Volgograd. 8.47 reported by "Russia 24". This time in a trolleybus. In the Dzerzhinsky district. 10 (+ \ -) ​​dead ...
    1. bairat
      bairat 30 December 2013 09: 03
      +2
      But what is it, what do these creatures achieve?
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  3. Asgard
    Asgard 30 December 2013 08: 56
    +13
    Yes, the formation of "alliances" is the prototype of future currency zones. Some of the bankers under the leadership of the Rothschilds are trying to divide the WORLD into them. These are artificial formations and they are unlikely to be viable ...
    Russia has an advantage here, we are a self-sufficient country with a huge territory and a sharp People)) if we replace the Judeas in the Government, then we will survive and be able to unite others, what can we do ?? the Russian is the cross-messianism))))
    1. mountain
      mountain 30 December 2013 09: 34
      +11
      I agree with you, Asgard. Less copy the West, more attention to their production, their agriculture and the army. And most importantly, to raise the living standards of their people and not to forget the culture and history of their ancestors. Do not succumb to provocations, noobs.
    2. makarov
      makarov 30 December 2013 09: 51
      +7
      ". Russia has an advantage here, we are a self-sufficient country with a huge territory and a smart people)) if we replace the Judas in the Authority, then we will survive ourselves and be able to unite others - what can we do ?? .. "

      Very well said. Bull's-eye.
    3. Boris55
      Boris55 30 December 2013 10: 18
      -1
      Quote: Asgard
      ... if we replace the Judeus in the Authority, then we will survive and be able to unite others ...

      That’s Putin about it once again ...

    4. zvereok
      zvereok 30 December 2013 19: 22
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      Russia has an advantage here, we are a self-sufficient country with a huge territory and sharp-witted People))

      The market in 300 of millions of souls could be self-sufficient (closed), if Ukraine were added to the TS, the TS could become one.
      Quote: Asgard
      if we replace the Judeas in Power


      The current owner does not allow charismatic competitors to appear in the political horizon, so you have to change all the Jews, and this is the river of blood and the collapse of the country is possible.
    5. Stanislas
      Stanislas 31 December 2013 00: 10
      +2
      Quote: Asgard
      Russia has an advantage here
      That is, do you, as it were, admit that Putin correctly took up the construction of the Eurasian Economic Community? Turkey and Ukraine did not take the turn to join the EU ... After all, the question of the people to power, as I understand it, is whether power is taking us in the right direction, because the question is when will we live humanly, looking at the remains of Europe, ask both Turkey and Ukraine. But for Judas, if any, in power, as well as for terrorists, capital punishment is needed.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 31 December 2013 01: 17
        -3
        The main enemy of power is the Russian people))
        Putin calls him Gandons-white-bellies, and the COUNTRY LEADER should not say this about a part of the people ...
        he also says that Russia is not for the Russians (free retelling of the quote by Pu)))
        Even Russian officers are being imprisoned on far-fetched pretexts, and Serdyukov, bulk, Khodorkovsky, is at large .... a Chechen lawyer promised to give blood to Moscow, ALREADY AGAIN IN MOSCOW ....

        The police are dispersing the People’s Assembly in Volgograd. also "guardians" of the Russian land. Russian guys are detained. The fight against terrorism ....

        When it is different, then we will build the Union, we will live.
        Wait ........
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 31 December 2013 01: 35
          +3
          Quote: Asgard
          Putin calls him Gandons-white-bellies, and the COUNTRY LEADER should not say this about a part of the people ...

          If so, then this is a scanty part, driven by motives incomprehensible to MOST of people ...
          Well, Putin harshly put it, although I kill, I don’t remember unfortunately such a statement of his. As the country's leader in such cases, he should be more restrained, but we are all human ...

          But what the overwhelming majority of Russians say about the "white-ribbon workers" cannot be printed at all ...

          But this is PEOPLE, it is possible for him, PUTIN - HOSE...
          1. Asgard
            Asgard 31 December 2013 02: 19
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            PUTIN - WELL ...
            for this expression +))))
            Vova is not a leader-word BLUD ...
            People’s power can’t talk like that, and therefore not ours. This is a thieves' construction, then we’ll change it))))) This year)) soon))

            On the Person, also VladiMIR, who will be engaged in the Nationalization of the people's resources (and not like Vova privatization in favor of foreigners)) will cancel the INSANE NUMBER of "laws" more than 5 (so many European countries have not adopted during the same time))) will put deputies- athletes, in those places where they should sit))) and will return the donated lands Russian Judas since 000 .... "managers" will return EVERYTHING, or their "heirs"))))
            Such feelings (who is against)) ??
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas 31 December 2013 11: 22
              +2
              Quote: Asgard
              This is a thieves building
              I heard before that thieves do not cooperate with the authorities, so that wolves remain wolves and dogs remain dogs, otherwise they both become jackals.
              1. Power
                Power 2 January 2014 01: 26
                0
                Rats rather.
            2. Firstvanguard
              Firstvanguard 1 January 2014 18: 31
              +4
              I have a light deja vu .. The main postulate of forum member posts with a nickname Asgard Putin must leave! Doesn’t resemble anything?
              Saddam must leave!
              Mubarak must leave!
              Gaddafi must go!
              Assad must leave!
              Are there ears from there ???
              Most of the listed CEOs have "gone" results? Peace and prosperity?
              Moreover, all this verbiage is very skillfully seasoned with quite logical theses about nationalization and the fight against corruption. This probably explains the rather high popularity of these posts. But this is verbiage, at the level of white-bellies. Abstracts without a concept for their implementation are just words. Dear you have a concept?
              On the Person, also VladiMIR, who will be engaged in the Nationalization of the people's resources (and not like Vova privatization in favor of foreigners)) will cancel the INSANE NUMBER of "laws" more than 5 (so many European countries have not adopted during the same time))) will put deputies- athletes, in those places where they should sit))) and will return the donated lands Russian Judas since 000 .... "managers" will return EVERYTHING, or their "heirs"))))

              Under current law, does the president pass laws? Well, let's say a happy time has come, they took all the thieves and corrupt officials from their posts at once, who will sit in their place? Other people who, as a person, were formed by the same social environment that shaped those who are sitting now ... And those who are sitting now at these posts continue to form this very social environment, a system of values, mass worldview - Probably the most accurate concept. So what will change when changing shapes? Mass worldview? Or maybe there is a candidate for the place of V.V. Putin who can change the mass outlook of the population of the whole state with his strong-willed decree? And we all together without hapuzhism, theft and envy will begin to build a bright socialist future, everyone will begin to work hard with full dedication for the benefit of society and the state without any selfish interests? Yes, I’m kind of deep with all my soul and body for this. So let's act, give your plan, concept, program, or whatever you have there, give your superhero, a leader, a leader who will do everything that Vladimir Vladimirovich cannot do!
              There is no such? It’s a pity ... then I will continue to do what I can personally, within the framework of the objective reality that we have. I will continue to study history, which, upon careful study, tells me that all revolutions in Russia, the Russian Empire, the USSR and many other states were initiated from outside and not at all for the benefit of those who inhabit these states. I will support a person who was not afraid and was able to take control of a state that has practically ceased to exist, could keep him from final dismemberment. I did a lot of things, but I couldn’t do many things, because one person is not able to change everything at once. But with the help of those who want to change something and work, they can do it. It won’t be easy, it doesn’t happen easily, to destroy what Joseph Vissarionovich and his associates left behind left half a century of efforts of about half of the world community. But breaking it is not known to build, and 10 years is not a deadline.
              And finally, I would like to ask one more question. What have you personally done for Russia? Calls ala "Putin must go" do not count.
        2. Theophanes
          Theophanes 2 January 2014 02: 19
          +2
          I didn’t send my money from retirement so that I wouldn’t have any .... .... the shackle to knock out on the Altar! And her bitch released and spit on me is not a believer! Yes, you all go .... There is no truth with this power.
        3. alpenstock
          alpenstock 7 January 2014 16: 11
          0
          the elections are long gone, wake up.
  4. Homo
    Homo 30 December 2013 09: 14
    +5
    Quote: bairat
    But what is it, what do these creatures achieve?

    Get things done for the Olympics. The State Department refused to boycott everything and gave the command to intimidate terrorist attacks!
    1. Iamfromrurik
      Iamfromrurik 30 December 2013 14: 19
      -7
      Quote: Homo
      Get things done for the Olympics. The State Department refused to boycott everything and gave the command to intimidate terrorist attacks!

      Such as you, for each pronounced "US Department of State" you need to smear your mouth with mustard.
  5. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 30 December 2013 09: 22
    +15
    But it is interesting, in general, in its history, has Russia at least once "treacherously" attacked the "defenseless West"? All aggression since the days of the general existence of Russia came as a rule from the West, then the knights-thugs will come to "re-baptize" Russia, then some inadequate Poles , for the entire 19th and half of the 20th century, the British were terribly afraid not even of the "appearance of Russian troops in India" but only of the very likelihood of this "appearance", only because of this they arranged a bunch of dirty tricks for Russia, and in almost all of Russia the Crimean war and wars in the Caucasus, and when such an "alternatively gifted" person as Nicholas II was at the helm of Russia, he managed to drag Russia first into a stupid war with Japan, and then into an absolutely unnecessary World War I, next year they will celebrate 100 years since the beginning of WWI, I wonder what they would come up with to justify Russia's participation in it, and what was Nicholas II thinking about when they shot him in the head? Did he even realize his mistake before his death, or did he remain a donkey?from the moment of its existence, it has never extended its military expansion beyond the borders of the former Russian Empire, well, there were Soviet troops in Eastern Europe after WWII, and whose troops were there in Western Europe and still are? where the repentance of the "American occupiers" is not heard. , can they repent in a whisper? Yes, in the drunken stupor of the 90s, Russia is a friend for everyone, remember Russia in the 90s is the Russia that the West would like to see.
    1. Drummer
      Drummer 1 January 2014 12: 45
      +3
      Quote: Standard Oil
      But it is interesting, in general, in its history, has Russia at least once "treacherously" attacked the "defenseless West"?

      Yes Yes. After all, Poland became part of the Russian Empire on the basis of a popular referendum, about the same as Finland or the Baltic states. And so that to attack someone - we never ...
      Quote: Standard Oil
      and when such an "alternatively gifted" person as Nicholas II was at the helm of Russia, it was generally possible to drag Russia into a stupid war with Japan, and then into an absolutely unnecessary World War I.

      Unsuccessful wars are always called unnecessary and meaningless after the fact.
      If the Russo-Japanese war ended with the victory of Russia, then its influence in East Asia would grow immensely, and the revival of China would be postponed for another thousand years.
      If the German bloc had been truly defeated in the First World War (the conditions were hothouse compared to the Great Patriotic War!), The Second would not have been needed - there would not have been a single serious adversary on the western border of Russia.
  6. ed65b
    ed65b 30 December 2013 09: 25
    +8
    Ohrinet again blew. Here is the FSB’s New Year’s gift from terrorists. Sorry for the people. I’m sorry. But I can’t do anything. Citizens be alert.
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 30 December 2013 09: 36
      +4
      Due to the holidays, this is probably just the beginning, there will be many crowds, very tempting goals, it's all very, very sad, I don't even know how I got on the trolleybus and everything "came" to the cemetery, even in a war it's somehow easier.
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 30 December 2013 10: 29
        +12
        The way out is to warn the Qatari and Saud through secret channels that if there is at least one more explosion, then let them prepare soap and rope. And let them as they want, and go to the Wahhabis funded by them and beg to do nothing. Although these countries still need to be punished
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  7. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 30 December 2013 10: 07
    +2
    And we will not take the Baltic states into the union. they behaved badly. Armenia must be accepted, because they are illegally building roads. since it’s all here, even if it’s legal here.
  8. 120352
    120352 30 December 2013 10: 12
    +6
    The future is for the EEC. The EU is slowly dying, becoming an Islamic territory with Islamic values. And how Muslim loafers know how to work, everyone knows.
    1. Drummer
      Drummer 1 January 2014 13: 57
      +1
      More and more Muslims come across something at construction sites; Orthodox people prefer to scratch their tongue on the Internet.
  9. Magadan
    Magadan 30 December 2013 10: 26
    +9
    The whole point of the CU and EEC is the creation of a market with a capacity of 300 million people. Such a market allows us to produce an absolutely ALL product line without worrying about foreign markets. In other words, a country with a population of even 100 million will burn through an electronics factory if it does not export this electronics.
    I think some special political associations based on the CU are not expected. In addition to those that are already built on our common values ​​and traditions (multipolar world, traditional family, etc.)
  10. Bagatur
    Bagatur 30 December 2013 11: 53
    +12
    When the USSR was happy and Russia was not experiencing the best of times, they laughed at the West, they were preparing to share the skin of an unfinished bear! Now he remembers well that Talleyrand was burning: Russia is not as strong as it looks, but never as weak as we want! Let the jackal shout, the road will pass!
  11. Semurg
    Semurg 30 December 2013 12: 15
    +6
    Judging by this article, I can be classified into 2 categories of those who are afraid. I base my fears on the historical experience of the accession of Kazakhs to Russia and on the opinion of "Russian patriots" who call for the dismemberment and annexation of a part of Kazakhstan to Russia (and this part of Russians is numerically increasing and will soon dictate the agenda to Russian politicians)
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 30 December 2013 17: 59
      +8
      Dear Sagat, good evening! In my opinion, in the domestic political life of Russia, the most pressing issue is international relations. And a lot will depend on solving this issue.
      I believe that it is too early to criticize or praise the new Union. We need to look at what supranational structures will be created and what powers will be given to them. But honestly, I can’t believe that, for example, from Moscow or Minsk they will tell us what we can build and what we can’t. It is stupidly simple. Judging by the words of our leaders, for example Nazarbayev, then this union will be equal and at the same time similar to the EU (which can not be called equal in any way). So let's see. But the global trend shows that we need the Union. Otherwise, we just become uncompetitive and go to hell knows where. I think that the NAS was right when Lukoshenko said that at first ECONOMY (well-being of our citizens), and POLITICS only then. If so, then the economic block of questions on the Union will be addressed first.
      Many of our compatriots scold that prices have skyrocketed and all KARAUL must be dumped from the organization. But few people want to think and draw conclusions that RK is beneficial and what is not. That's what I think .
      1. Russia joined the WTO. What does it mean ? In 7-10 years (grace period) all prices will fall, because import duties will fall. They will BELOW KAZAKHSTAN, which were before the formation of the vehicle. That is, we have this time (7-10 years) to raise and build our industry, build muscle. Need this RK, profitable? Obviously, YES, because not ready for the WTO (for example, PROKTER AND GAMBLE makes only 6-8% of the profit on its products - can any new production compete with them?). At the moment, since the start of the industrialization program of Kazakhstan, according to the assurances of the authorities, 600 new enterprises, factories, manufactures, etc. have been created or built. Work or not is another matter.
      2. For the development of entrepreneurship, the authorities of Kazakhstan tried to maximize the business climate in the republic. Many barriers were removed. And when we organized the TS together, it turned out that in Russia and Belarus these barriers remained. For example, when I found out that a lot of docs are needed for sanitary-hygienic goods to get them to the Russian Federation and start selling. We don’t have that. Therefore, it is natural that after the creation of the TS, friction in trade arose. But it is also obvious that everyone is interested in the success of this project and, I think, therefore, all misunderstandings will be removed, but it takes time. Yes, and praise or criticize the vehicle is still very early. After 5 years, we can only draw any conclusions. Yours faithfully hi and happy new year drinks !
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 30 December 2013 18: 33
        +4
        Quote: IamFromRurik
        Quote: NIKOLAEV196
        RUSSIA HAS GIVEN PART OF ITS LAND TO KAZAKH INDUSTRY. THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART OF KAZAKHSTAN.

        It is necessary to return the Russian lands to Russia.

        Good evening Kasym. When writing koment, I had in mind such sentiments in Russia. Economics is an important issue and appeals to be patient for a bright future are good while young, and not when you are closer to retirement and a bright future can not be found alive. Well, I hope that the grandchildren will live in an independent and self-sufficient Kazakhstan. And Happy New Year to all.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 30 December 2013 19: 24
          +5
          Dear Sagat! So I'm talking about the same - the root of this evil is one. Russia should "get sick" with this, as we did in the 90s.
          I agree to be patient. But what to do ? I myself am not young. Therefore, as well as you sometimes look Khabar for positive. And in the last days of the outgoing year, I want to recall the economic successes of Kazakhstan in December. Maybe our friends from the Commonwealth will be pleased with us:
          1. Refinery (gold).
          2. Optical-electronic plant MIC (night vision devices, etc.)
          3. Pharmaceutical factory
          4. Plant of solar cells for sol. bat .. And thereby completed the construction of a full cycle of production for the production of sun. batteries from our own raw materials.
          5. 1 power plant in the sun. batteries in Kapchagai.
          6. 2 plants for metallurgy (one of them costs 300 mil dollars.)
          7. Automobile assembly plant box. auto sang young.
          8. 2 tankers in the Caspian.
          9. Part of the Autobahn Zap. China - Zap. Europe
          There was something else, I don’t remember. Help, Sagat!
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 30 December 2013 19: 54
            +5
            Kasym. You are about the global, I am about the private. In my village "Voronya Slobodka" in Shymkent, the entire infrastructure was changed (gas and water were installed through new plastic pipes, the e-posts were changed to concrete and insulated wire, people are persuading to install a telephone, people do not want mobile phones for everyone, they promise to put asphalt in the spring)
            1. Zymran
              Zymran 30 December 2013 19: 58
              +4
              Quote: Semurg
              Shymkent


              Hedgehog Detective, I never would have thought. laughing
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              3. Andrey KZ
                Andrey KZ 30 December 2013 21: 16
                +7
                Dauren, Sagat, Zimran, with the upcoming fellow countrymen. Although the mood in connection with the events in Volgograd, to put it mildly, is not festive. Dauren, I will add the Kazmedpribor enterprise to your list. In Shymkent, this enterprise began to produce X-ray and ultrasound machines, this year the enterprise must fulfill a state order for the equipment of 300 ambulance vehicles
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 30 December 2013 21: 40
                  +8
                  And you, Andrey, Happy New Year! Yes, with Volgograd. RF is high time to ask "sponsors". If they do not understand on good terms, then to fit Kuzya with the rest of the fleet to Qatar and Saudi Arabia and arrange demonstration exercises with all live firing and to conduct tests of Bulava from nuclear submarines exactly through their territory. And to warn that the next time the missiles may go off course - we will learn to set obstacles.
                  And you can add to the list the asphalt-bitumen plant and the Kurdai-Chu gas pipeline drinks.
                2. Semurg
                  Semurg 31 December 2013 13: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: Andrew KZ
                  Dauren, Sagat, Zimran, with the upcoming fellow countrymen. Although the mood in connection with the events in Volgograd, to put it mildly, is not festive. Dauren, I will add the Kazmedpribor enterprise to your list. In Shymkent, this enterprise began to produce X-ray and ultrasound machines, this year the enterprise must fulfill a state order for the equipment of 300 ambulance vehicles

                  Mutually. good
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            2. Kasym
              Kasym 30 December 2013 20: 41
              +5
              Dear, Sagat! "Neither sour" you have a "suburb" and even "crow", you see, it’s right where it should be! In my opinion, the akim of SKO was awarded there, so there was a reason. good
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 30 December 2013 21: 45
                +5
                Sagat, but the cable is anyway better. So agitate the neighbors. Communication is more stable in any way.
                And gasification is connected with the Beineu-Boza gas pipeline for sure. There, by the way, they began to build a branch on Samsonovka, in my opinion. hi
                1. Semurg
                  Semurg 31 December 2013 13: 49
                  +5
                  Kasym. left the counter frame. Phones are not cable but through the dock. station. It was gas, but it was conducted by themselves into the warehouse from house to house. Now the gas industry workers have made a thorough plastic pipe in the ground, they buried the meters; The drawers are generally a complete upgrade. The truth is, who does not pay, now they will be quickly turned off and the counters and valves are all on the street and there is no need to catch non-paying owners.
                  1. marshes
                    marshes 31 December 2013 14: 04
                    +4
                    Greetings Sagat. Happy New Year!
                    Quote: Semurg
                    Now the gas industry workers have made a thorough plastic pipe in the ground, they buried the meters; The drawers are generally a complete upgrade. The truth is, who does not pay, now they will be quickly turned off and the counters and valves are all on the street and there is no need to catch non-paying owners.

                    They made a campaign like in Taraz, a plastic pipe, a medium pressure line, electronic meters with gears. All data on the flow will be received by the operators, they will then send the bills, they can also disconnect remotely.
                    The next stage is for electricity.
                    Probably after 2020, generally paper money will disappear.
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    2. Zymran
      Zymran 30 December 2013 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: Semurg
      Judging by this article, I can be classified into 2 categories of those who are afraid. I base my fears on the historical experience of the accession of Kazakhs to Russia and on the opinion of "Russian patriots" who call for the dismemberment and annexation of a part of Kazakhstan to Russia (and this part of Russians is numerically increasing and will soon dictate the agenda to Russian politicians)


      That's right. Moreover, our entire fifth column will be only FOR. I do not exclude indigenous scoops from their number.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 30 December 2013 20: 16
        +7
        Zimran salam. I am the same scoop because I grew up and brought up with the union. The Union is childhood and adolescence, where apples are sweeter and sincere friendship (and nostalgia sometimes breaks), but living in the RK is harder and worse, but paradoxically, it’s better. I understand Russians somewhere, they were the dominant people in the union, and in Kazakhstan the dominant has changed.
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 30 December 2013 20: 43
          +4
          Semurg, in principle, and I'm from the post-Soviet generation. Born in the year of perestroika, raised in 90.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 30 December 2013 21: 28
            +4
            Zimran, hello dear! Happy New Year, health car, Boeing, Ferrari and everything you wish for it to come true in the future! Come on, we are all from there! Who will be born scoops? Oh well, just kidding! Good luck drinks
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 51
      +3
      Quote: Semurg
      "Russian patriots"

      You correctly put the word "Russian patriots" in quotation marks, because these people do not in any way refer to Russian patriots.
    4. alpenstock
      alpenstock 7 January 2014 16: 15
      0
      What kind of "Russian patriots calling for the dismemberment and annexation of part of Kazakhstan to Russia" have you just published? Have you read something, too, ate something?
  12. Yeraz
    Yeraz 30 December 2013 12: 28
    0
    Haha Evrazes, cool economies gathered right there. There is only one country that provides itself, Kazakhstan, the rest is a hole with which devouring Russian resources.
    And by the way, as against the background of nationalism, I’ll cooperate with the Tajiks and Kyrgyz, and the Armenians will get it, I’ll hit the face and not the passport)))
    It's funny to look at such pacifier unions.
    And the Kazakhs will leave from there. The temporary interruption is the death of Nazarbayev and as the Kazakhs increase in population.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 30 December 2013 18: 05
      +6
      Dear Yeraz! And I think that Azerbaijan will be in the new Union rather than the Kazakhs dumped from there.
      Best regards hi and happy new year drinks ! Good luck, health and prosperity to your family and fraternal Azerbaijan!
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 30 December 2013 18: 32
        +3
        Quote: Kasym
        Dear Yeraz! And I think that Azerbaijan will be in the new Union rather than the Kazakhs dumped from there.

        everyone respects their views on the situation. And Azerbaijan should not be there while Russia is roofing Armenia, if it is thrown under Lenin, then yes, and considering what is happening right now, both in foreign policy (the increase in support of Armenia is increasing) and in domestic (Caucasian hatred within Russia), on the contrary, Azerbaijan is pushing away from the neutral situation in which Aliyev is being held to confrontation with the Russian Federation.
        Quote: Kasym
        and Happy New Year! Good luck, health and prosperity to your family and fraternal Azerbaijan!

        And I wish you the same. And no matter what blocks we are in, brother will not go against brother. drinks
      2. alone
        alone 30 December 2013 22: 57
        +2
        what But why do we need alliances? Is it really necessary to create an alliance to find a common language with the Kazakh?
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 30 December 2013 18: 52
      +7
      Kazakhstan is a country that literally kicked out of the USSR. They did not sign anything in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. Of all the republics, probably only Kazakhstan most consistently focused on integration with Russia. The fact that today he does not ask for subsidies from Russia is the result of a consistent economic policy that has allowed to maintain all the common technological chains. Again, silver Kazakhstan is populated by Russians, and this is also an important factor in the integration process.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 30 December 2013 19: 38
        +5
        Dear Yeraz! Believe me, the pain of Karabakh is in our hearts. Sooner or later, the issue will be resolved - we believe in it. Nagorno-Karabakh should become the main issue for Armenia when joining the Customs Union in the opinion of many Kazakhstanis. We will see how it will be, but without resolving this issue, I do not see Armenia in the CU. Putin is still in a minority - Belarus has also put forward a number of demands. So, you and I!
      2. Kasym
        Kasym 30 December 2013 20: 32
        +4
        Alexandra, good evening! Unfortunately, I have to correct you. In the Republic of Kazakhstan, all industry rose with the collapse of the USSR. Many enterprises simply disappeared. I will not upload the list now, but it is huge.
        We are faced with the same thing as everything - a break in technological production remaining in different parts of the USSR. Therefore, in the first place, emphasis was placed on export goods:
        1. Energy carriers (oil, gas, uranium, coal). For example, KazSSR oil production was just over 20 mil. tons, which was not enough even for the needs of the republic. At the moment, more than 70 mil. with growth up to 120 mil. until 2020. Uranus is the first place in the world in production and 1 in reserves (and here there is the merit of independent RK - several new deposits were put into operation). Gas. There is a program of gasification of the whole republic (under the USSR it is about 3% -35%) and make the country independent of the Uzbek one.
        2. Metallurgy (including color and rare earth). Here, too, there are achievements of an independent RK. It is enough to say that Nazarbayev was a metallurgist and attracted Mital to Karmet with investments. But as an example. We already independently melt aluminum and make body metal for cars.
        3. Grain and some food. A food corporation has been created in the Republic of Kazakhstan, which buys, stores, exports grain. She allocates fuels and lubricants at prices below market for farmers.
        4. The emphasis is also placed on the transit of goods from China and further to Zap. Europe. Built about 1300 km. railway and over 2000 km of roads. Under construction highway Zap. China West Europe by Terr. RK about 3500 km. until 2015.
        I have given above a list of enterprises built and commissioned in the Republic of Kazakhstan in the month of December. And so already about 600 enterprises, industries, etc. since the start of industrialization of the Republic of Kazakhstan, assured by the authorities.
        With the establishment of the Customs Union, Kazakhstan has high hopes. Take a farm. According to the authorities, a program for the development of villages should be created by the end of this year. household .. Example. There are 5 sugar factories in the RK. For the needs of the Republic of Kazakhstan, 1-2 is enough for the eyes. And for the vehicle this is just right. They say that under the sah. beets will be allocated money following the example of grain and food corporation .. Or the auto industry, beloved by young people. According to the assurances of the authorities, by the end of 2020. Kazakhstan will be able to collect 300 cars. Already going: VAZ, Peugeot, Kia, Skoda, San Yang, ZAZ, Hyundai. Where is so much for the RK? And for the vehicle it is ... in short, and we have enough space. In Petropavlovsk, the growth of gondola car production "is growing by leaps and bounds." In short, there are examples and others.
        According to the authorities, Kazakhstan reached the GDP level of the Kazakh SSR in 2010-2011.
        Many more devastation, to be sure. Drive away from the city at km 50 and you will see this ... Better not be on New Year's Eve.
        CONGRATULATE EVERYONE ! GOOD HEALTH, GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR NEARBY! hi drinks
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 31 December 2013 12: 58
          +3
          Quote: Kasym
          Many more devastation, to be sure. Drive away from the city at km 50 and you will see this ...

          This can be said about the most developed countries. Two blocks away from the Eiffel Tower and you can see such an ass, Kazakhstan is resting.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 31 December 2013 13: 34
          0
          Quote: Kasym
          According to the authorities, Kazakhstan reached the GDP level of the Kazakh SSR in 2010-2011.

          Apparently "ochePatka"? smile
          1. Drummer
            Drummer 1 January 2014 14: 11
            +2
            No, this is a characteristic of the economic abyss of the 90s. In Russia, roughly the same thing, in 2005-6 Kudrin proudly declared that the Russian Federation had finally reached the 1990 level of the RSFSR in terms of per capita GDP. Such is prosperity.
  13. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 30 December 2013 14: 02
    +4
    Actually, there is a small mistake in the title and article: the acronym EEC is not the Eurasian Economic Union, but the EUROPEAN. And this is a recognized name.
    Therefore, for the second organization there is, also universally recognized, the abbreviation - EurasEC.
    It is not worth confusing in this matter.
  14. saag
    saag 30 December 2013 14: 24
    +1
    Quote: Yeraz
    There is only one country that provides itself, Kazakhstan,

    This is how it provides itself ???
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 30 December 2013 14: 29
      +7
      The Russian Federation does not ask for subsidies and discounts.
      1. saag
        saag 30 December 2013 14: 49
        0
        Unless in this regard ...
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 30 December 2013 17: 39
          +5
          Well, and what is missing is what we get through trading, and not blackmail or help requests. We are the most honest partners, if you look objectively.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 30 December 2013 18: 35
          +3
          Quote: saag
          Unless in this regard ...

          And in what terms still happens?
      2. NIKOLAEV196
        NIKOLAEV196 30 December 2013 14: 52
        0
        THE WHOLE INDUSTRY WAS CREATED AT THE ACCOUNT OF THE UNION. GEOLOGISTS WERE ALSO ALLIANGED. KAZAKHSTAN WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING. THIS WAS A NOBLE PEOPLE. THE BASIC ACTIVITY OF CATTLE BREEDING.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 30 December 2013 18: 35
      +4
      Quote: saag
      Quote: Yeraz
      There is only one country that provides itself, Kazakhstan,

      This is how it provides itself ???

      You don’t understand the word itself provides ?? This is when the country itself satisfies its needs without using loans and preferences of someone else.
      But Russia provides the needs of all the other countries of this union. Moreover, every single one. And with loans, and cheaper by the sale of oil and gas. And weapons at its own expense.
  15. NIKOLAEV196
    NIKOLAEV196 30 December 2013 14: 41
    +2
    RUSSIA HAS GIVEN PART OF ITS LAND TO KAZAKH INDUSTRY. THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART OF KAZAKHSTAN.
    1. Iamfromrurik
      Iamfromrurik 30 December 2013 15: 22
      -7
      Quote: NIKOLAEV196
      RUSSIA HAS GIVEN PART OF ITS LAND TO KAZAKH INDUSTRY. THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART OF KAZAKHSTAN.

      It is necessary to return the Russian lands to Russia.
      1. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ 30 December 2013 16: 30
        +4
        Quote: IamFromRurik
        It is necessary to return the Russian lands to Russia.

        Another "return" damn it.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 31 December 2013 13: 01
          +3
          Quote: Andrey KZ
          Another "return" damn it.

          After the new year, the mighty IamFromRurik will attack Kazakhstan. Will "rotate".
          1. Iamfromrurik
            Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 13: 06
            -4
            Quote: Setrac
            Quote: Andrey KZ
            Another "return" damn it.

            After the new year, the mighty IamFromRurik will attack Kazakhstan. Will "rotate".

            These are natural processes. Russian lands, always owned by Russia and inhabited by Russians, will be returned to the bosom of their historical Motherland - Russia. It is not worthwhile for the newly-made pseudo-state Kazakhstan to fatten at the expense of Russians.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 31 December 2013 14: 25
              +2
              Quote: IamFromRurik
              These are natural processes. Russian lands, always owned by Russia and inhabited by Russians, will be returned to the bosom of their historical Motherland - Russia.

              I am interested in the mechanism of "return", express your opinion on this matter. Did you serve in the army? Liable for military service? Will you go PERSONALLY to return, or a keyboard fighter?
              1. Iamfromrurik
                Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 16: 25
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                Did you serve in the army?

                He served in the army

                Quote: Setrac
                I am interested in the "return" mechanism

                Quote: Setrac
                Will you go PERSONALLY to return, or a keyboard fighter?

                If you have enough brains, only for a military scenario, then it’s completely useless to explain something to you.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 31 December 2013 16: 36
                  +2
                  Quote: IamFromRurik
                  If you have enough brains, only for a military scenario, then it’s completely useless to explain something to you.

                  Not a military scenario, and without any near-bys, is being realized, what is the meaning of your comments? Farted in a puddle. What are you trying to achieve? Wars between Russia and Kazakhstan?
              2. Andrey KZ
                Andrey KZ 31 December 2013 16: 28
                +4
                Quote: Setrac
                Will you go PERSONALLY to return, or a keyboard fighter?

                He is an ordinary small worm, he cannot eat an apple, but he will surely ruin it. It is a shame that, because of people like him, the Kazakhs are wary of the union under construction hi Happy New Year!
                1. Iamfromrurik
                  Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 19: 13
                  -3
                  Quote: Andrey KZ
                  He is an ordinary small worm, he cannot eat an apple, but he will surely ruin it. It is a shame that, because of people like him, the Kazakhs are wary of the union under construction Happy New Year!

                  A campaign has begun in Kazakhstan to exit the republic from the CU and the Common Economic Space.

                  Against the background of the prospective expansion of the Customs Union at the expense of Armenia and Kyrgyzstan, a large-scale campaign has begun in Kazakhstan for the republic leaving the CU, the Common Economic Space and, accordingly, for not joining the Eurasian Union.

                  http://pro-kg.com/2013/09/29/в-казахстане-началась-кампа
                  nya-fail /

                  And thank God!
                  1. Andrey KZ
                    Andrey KZ 1 January 2014 00: 26
                    +3
                    Quote: IamFromRurik
                    Campaign launched in Kazakhstan

                    I won’t even argue with you. How many similar companies are taking place in Russia itself? Or do you wish us to draw conclusions from Zhirinovsky’s statements?
                    1. Iamfromrurik
                      Iamfromrurik 1 January 2014 13: 04
                      -1
                      Quote: Andrey KZ
                      I won’t even argue with you. How many similar companies are taking place in Russia itself? Or do you wish us to draw conclusions from Zhirinovsky’s statements?

                      Zhirinovsky is the mouthpiece of power. So, to his statements, you need to listen, very carefully.
            2. Andrey KZ
              Andrey KZ 1 January 2014 00: 35
              +2
              Quote: IamFromRurik
              These are natural processes. Russian lands, always owned by Russia and inhabited by Russians, will be returned to the bosom of their historical Motherland - Russia. It is not worthwhile for the newly-made pseudo-state Kazakhstan to fatten at the expense of Russians.

              I personally will defend Kazakhstan's land from people like you. Kazakhstan has been, is and will be a friend of Russia. And you are its enemy!
              1. Iamfromrurik
                Iamfromrurik 1 January 2014 13: 02
                -4
                Quote: Andrey KZ
                I personally will defend Kazakhstan's land from people like you. Kazakhstan has been, is and will be a friend of Russia. And you are its enemy!

                Kazakhstan was like a steppe Asian, so it will be.
                The Asian steppe is an enemy of Russia and the Russian people.
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                2. Apollo
                  Apollo 1 January 2014 13: 16
                  +3
                  Quote: IamFromRurik
                  Kazakhstan was like a steppe Asian, so it will be.

                  Less to you for defamation of Kazakhstan.
                  Quote: IamFromRurik
                  The Asian steppe is an enemy of Russia and the Russian people.

                  Decrease in a rating for kindling interstate and interethnic relations between the countries.
                3. Setrac
                  Setrac 1 January 2014 22: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: IamFromRurik
                  Kazakhstan was like a steppe Asian, so it will be.
                  The Asian steppe is an enemy of Russia and the Russian people.

                  Since when? For thousands of years, Russia has been attacked exclusively from the west, and even Japan has been set against the west.
              2. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov 1 January 2014 13: 38
                +5
                Quote: Andrey KZ
                I personally will defend Kazakhstan's land from people like you. Kazakhstan has been, is and will be a friend of Russia. And you are its enemy!

                I also ! I have a lot of Kazakh friends .. Kazakhstan is one of the most friendly and peaceful of the "former" in relation to Russia ..
                1. Andrey KZ
                  Andrey KZ 1 January 2014 13: 49
                  +4
                  Vitaliy, thank you for your support. Happy New Year!
                  1. Vitaly Anisimov
                    Vitaly Anisimov 1 January 2014 14: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey KZ
                    Vitaliy, thank you for your support. Happy New Year!

                    Happy New Year ! When we are one we are not victorious ..!
              3. Setrac
                Setrac 1 January 2014 22: 26
                +1
                Quote: Andrey KZ
                .And you are her enemy!

                But the enemy must be known in person, Uncle Vova’s employees are writing everything!
      2. Arhj
        Arhj 30 December 2013 19: 00
        +5
        This is exactly what smart people are now doing, but they can return in different ways. You can control your ancestral lands, even if they are part of another state. And you can first fight for them, then restore, be considered an invader and still not achieve your goal.
        1. Iamfromrurik
          Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 13: 48
          -1
          Quote: Arhj
          This is exactly what smart people are now doing, but they can return in different ways. You can control your ancestral lands, even if they are part of another state. And you can first fight for them, then restore, be considered an invader and still not achieve your goal.

          No need to fight. It is necessary to carry out humanitarian and economic intervention, thus creating the prerequisites so that people would identify themselves and demand a secession from a state that has nothing to do with them.
          1. Andrey KZ
            Andrey KZ 31 December 2013 16: 30
            0
            Quote: IamFromRurik
            people determined themselves and demanded a secession from a state that has nothing to do with them.

            He understood what he wrote? I suppose you are thumping already?
            1. Iamfromrurik
              Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 16: 31
              -4
              Quote: Andrey KZ
              He understood what he wrote? I suppose you are thumping already?

              Asian, I don’t drink, I don’t drink at all.
              1. Andrey KZ
                Andrey KZ 31 December 2013 16: 35
                +4
                Quote: IamFromRurik
                Asian, I don’t drink, I don’t drink at all.

                Well, fine, you can’t drink like you
                1. Iamfromrurik
                  Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 19: 12
                  -2
                  Quote: Andrey KZ

                  Well, fine, you can’t drink like you

                  but such as you can and should and as much as possible, that would be less than you were.
                  1. Andrey KZ
                    Andrey KZ 31 December 2013 19: 28
                    +7
                    Quote: IamFromRurik
                    but such as you can and should and as much as possible, that would be less than you were.

                    Happiness and health to you in the New Year! Well, of course, of course.
                    1. alone
                      alone 1 January 2014 12: 05
                      +3
                      Quote: Andrey KZ
                      Happiness and health to you in the New Year! Well, of course, of course.


                      And as for the mind, you certainly got excited. When the Almighty gave us all reason, this one drew a plan on how to return the North of Kazastan to Russia. And as we all know, reason is given to a person once laughing hi
                      1. Andrey KZ
                        Andrey KZ 1 January 2014 14: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: lonely
                        And as we all know, the mind is given to man once

                        Yes, it looks like a comrade "flew".
              2. marshes
                marshes 31 December 2013 16: 42
                +1
                Quote: IamFromRurik
                I don’t drink at all.

                It is necessary to drink but in reasonable quantities.
                1. Iamfromrurik
                  Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 19: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: marshes
                  It is necessary to drink but in reasonable quantities.

                  Teach your wife what she needs and what she doesn't need.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 31 December 2013 16: 44
            +2
            Quote: IamFromRurik
            Humanitarian and economic intervention needed

            To do this, you need to have a powerful economy and demography. Moreover, the demography is primary, how many children do you have7
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 30 December 2013 19: 49
        +3
        Have a drink Cavinton, otherwise you have a bo-bo with brains. bully
      4. Setrac
        Setrac 31 December 2013 13: 00
        +2
        Quote: IamFromRurik
        It is necessary to return the Russian lands to Russia.

        Here after the holidays and take care.
    2. Andrey KZ
      Andrey KZ 30 December 2013 16: 29
      +5
      Quote: NIKOLAEV196
      RUSSIA HAS GIVEN PART OF ITS LAND TO KAZAKH INDUSTRY. THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART OF KAZAKHSTAN.

      Turn off the caps and don’t yell. Go to the regions of Russia bordering Kazakhstan. Half of the settlements have Kazakh names. There may already be enough land to take away, master those that are first. Damn, with such as you, no integration will work.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 30 December 2013 19: 46
        +9
        I support. That's right - there’s nothing to reproach the neighbor for, but to go and learn and build, and build, and defend, and not settle in Moscow taverns. soldier
      2. Iamfromrurik
        Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 13: 08
        -3
        Quote: Andrey KZ
        Turn off the caps and don’t yell. Go to the regions of Russia bordering Kazakhstan. Half of the settlements have Kazakh names. There may already be enough land to take away, master those that are first. Damn, with such as you, no integration will work.

        To begin with, let’s return what belongs to us and what was taken from us by the illegitimate Soviet regime.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 31 December 2013 14: 26
          0
          Quote: IamFromRurik
          To begin with, let’s return what belongs to us and what was taken from us by the illegitimate Soviet regime.

          And which government in our world is legitimate? There are none.
  16. NIKOLAEV196
    NIKOLAEV196 30 December 2013 14: 44
    0
    It was necessary to dilute the agricultural sector and give the Kazakh people the opportunity to get those. EDUCATION.
  17. olviko
    olviko 30 December 2013 16: 44
    +5
    The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was created 91 years ago, on December 30, 1922. My congratulations to everyone who cares!
    1. Current 72
      Current 72 31 December 2013 02: 28
      +1
      And you with this holiday, and with the coming New Year !!! I wish you excellent health and success in all your affairs !!!
      1. olviko
        olviko 31 December 2013 22: 57
        +1
        "! I wish you excellent health and success in all your affairs !!!"

        Mutually, dear!
  18. Boris63
    Boris63 30 December 2013 17: 40
    +3
    The West is panicking about the Eurasian Economic Community because this union is being created on completely different conditions than the EU. Our union is a union of self-sufficient economies that unite for development, and the EU was created to unite these economies (we see what happened), and they mean their development by absorbing other markets.
    1. Iamfromrurik
      Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 13: 42
      -2
      Quote: Boris63
      . Our union is a union of self-sufficient economies that unite for development, and the EU was created to unite these economies (we see what happened), and they mean their development by absorbing other markets.

      Chito ??? Union of "self-sufficient" economies ?? No ... our union is a union of underdeveloped economies.
    2. pamero
      pamero 31 December 2013 14: 20
      0
      Yes, it is the principle of helping to develop and not destroy
  19. Arhj
    Arhj 30 December 2013 18: 46
    +7
    There has been no union for more than twenty years, and I still have not learned to consider the former union republics abroad. As in that song - "THIS IS MY COUNTRY". I speak for myself, but I am sure that many people think so. I will vote for anyone who promises to return "my country" to me, naturally on the condition that I believe in him. I don't care if it happens in the form of reunification with Russia or unification into a new union.
  20. Lelek
    Lelek 30 December 2013 19: 40
    +5
    Ears do not grow from the North Caucasus republics, but from Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and now Georgia too. Commanding this CIA gang. And there were enough suicide fools in all republics. Panacea - to chop limbs and heads of the commander. angry
  21. makeev.dmitry
    makeev.dmitry 30 December 2013 21: 34
    0
    "... when we retreat, we are going forward!" Each time, having barely survived the next geopolitical and moral catastrophe, Russia is even more strengthening and growing in territories. What we are now seeing.
  22. Current 72
    Current 72 31 December 2013 02: 47
    +4
    Here, some forum users scolded Lukashenko for claims to the Russian Federation! But how else, YOU eat our products, praise them, and at the same time slow down sugar and dairy products at the border. And we live by our work, we have potassium, and some oil, and there are no particularly useful minerals. We saved we have developed the entire production base, agriculture has developed, your regions come to us and conclude mutually beneficial contracts. Look at the range of our products. Buses, trolleybuses, mining trucks, multi-axle tractors (by the way YOUR missiles on them), televisions, refrigerators, optics, yes and much more. And investments, so everyone needs them, and we all pay off to the fullest. You forgot that in the USSR we were an assembly shop, and we saved and increased everything.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 31 December 2013 13: 04
      0
      Quote: Current 72
      Here, some forum users scolded Lukashenko for claims to the Russian Federation!

      And what is there to scold? Work moment.
    2. Iamfromrurik
      Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 13: 10
      +5
      Quote: Current 72
      Here, some forum users scolded Lukashenko for claims to the Russian Federation! But how else, YOU eat our products, praise them, and at the same time slow down sugar and dairy products at the border. And we live by our work, we have potassium, and some oil, and there are no particularly useful minerals. We saved we have developed the entire production base, agriculture has developed, your regions come to us and conclude mutually beneficial contracts. Look at the range of our products. Buses, trolleybuses, mining trucks, multi-axle tractors (by the way YOUR missiles on them), televisions, refrigerators, optics, yes and much more. And investments, so everyone needs them, and we all pay off to the fullest. You forgot that in the USSR we were an assembly shop, and we saved and increased everything.

      Please do not be bullshit. You understand everything that you described and praised exists only due to access to the Russian market. There will be no Russian market, everything will be closed as unnecessary, just as it was closed in Bulgaria, the Baltic States, etc.
      Demand creates supply, and not vice versa. The buyer is the root cause of production, and not vice versa. So appreciate the Russian market as long as it exists.
      1. Glory333
        Glory333 31 December 2013 13: 49
        +1
        In Russia, a lot of enterprises, including agricultural ones, were liquidated although they worked not on a stranger but on their own market - do you understand the difference?
        Compare the production of various industries per capita in Russia and Belarus - Belarusians were able to reach the level of the BSSR by working on the neighboring market and Russia unfortunately could not reach the level of the RSFSR by working on their own. The reason here is obvious - the effectiveness of economic management.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 31 December 2013 14: 29
          +1
          Quote: Glory333
          In Russia, a lot of enterprises, including agricultural ones, were liquidated although they worked not on a stranger but on their own market - do you understand the difference?

          Quote: Glory333
          The reason here is obvious - the effectiveness of economic management.

          The reason is obvious - a more favorable climate in Belarus, in the southern regions of Russia, the agricultural producer is flourishing.
          1. Glory333
            Glory333 31 December 2013 14: 50
            0
            C'mon climate :) It’s not so favorable in Belarus, for livestock breeding and in Russia everything is there, but the climate doesn’t affect engineering at all.
            I’ll clarify one point, the Russian authorities say that in terms of GDP Russia reached the level of the RSFSR as early as 2010-11, but this is completely refuted by statistics on the RSFSR for 1990 - Russia is still far from this level.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 31 December 2013 15: 10
              0
              Quote: Glory333
              C'mon climate :) It’s not so favorable in Belarus, for livestock breeding and in Russia everything is there, but the climate doesn’t affect engineering at all.

              Compared with Russia, it is favorable.
              The climate affects EVERYTHING, with regard to mechanical engineering - these are more extreme conditions for the extraction of resources, more expensive engineering constructions and buildings - in order to withstand this very climate, food, clothing, housing, transport - everything is more expensive because of the climate.
        2. Iamfromrurik
          Iamfromrurik 31 December 2013 15: 22
          +1
          Quote: Glory333
          In Russia, a lot of enterprises, including agricultural ones, were liquidated although they worked not on a stranger but on their own market - do you understand the difference?
          Compare the production of various industries per capita in Russia and Belarus - Belarusians were able to reach the level of the BSSR by working on the neighboring market and Russia unfortunately could not reach the level of the RSFSR by working on their own. The reason here is obvious - the effectiveness of economic management.

          Sorry, but the Russian Federation is far ahead of the RSFSR in many respects.
          1. Glory333
            Glory333 31 December 2013 15: 50
            +2
            Excuse me for what specific indicators?
            I argued about this in my blog with a student economist, compared a lot of things (energy, metallurgy, mechanical engineering, agricultural production ...) - in the end, she recognized that Russia is still far from the RSFSR GDP.
    3. pamero
      pamero 31 December 2013 14: 18
      0
      what a fellow you said all this
  23. Zymran
    Zymran 31 December 2013 13: 29
    +8
    Well, I wish all fellow countrymen a Happy New Year: Semurg, Alibek, Clegg, Andrey, Kasym, Saper, T80Um1 And ​​also the Turkic brothers Yeraz and xetai. Russian comrades Smile, Setrac, dude with a shark (sorry forgot nickname), Eduard (also forgot nickname). And also everyone with whom I crossed here on the site.

    Good to you and happiness.
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 31 December 2013 14: 36
      +4
      Quote: Zymran
      Well, I wish all fellow countrymen a Happy New Year

      Rakhmet bro, you too with the upcoming and all of the above.
      I want to add to the list of my Turkic brothers: Yarbai, Khasharat, Ayyyldyz, Lonely and of course Alibekuly.
      By the way, Alibekuly, if you see this comment, I heard that Tobil bought the former footballer of the Spanish Premier League Delibasic. A cool acquisition, let's hope that next year they will fight Aktobe, Shakhtar and Astana. drinks
      1. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ 31 December 2013 16: 21
        +4
        Quote: Clegg
        will fight Aktobe, Shakhtar and Astana.

        Ordabasy champion! drinks Zhana Zhyl Kutta bolsyn fellow countrymen! Happy New Year to all !!!
      2. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 31 December 2013 20: 18
        +4
        Zymran, Clegg
        Big Zur Rahmat hi
        I join all the congratulations drinks
        Well, we won’t forget Marek, and Aksakal and Bek ...
        Separately, I want to congratulate the fellow countryman-Kostanay (or Kustanai, as you like)kush62
        Quote: Clegg
        let's hope that next year they will fight Aktobe, Shakhtar and Astana.
        we will!?! Good luck to "Akzhaiyk" - to return to the Premier League. I hope you will have Lyubko Petkovich ..
        Quote: Andrew KZ
        Ordabasy champion!
        Texas United wink
        1. Andrey KZ
          Andrey KZ 1 January 2014 00: 19
          +1
          Quote: Alibekulu
          Texas United

          NO - "ORDABASY"
      3. alone
        alone 1 January 2014 12: 11
        +1
        Thanks for the congratulation!! May 2014 bring all of us happiness and prosperity. I hope that as a state our countries will be even stronger than now! hi
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 1 January 2014 14: 08
          +4
          Lonely, Happy New Year to you too. We will strengthen Turkic cooperation and brotherhood!
          1. alone
            alone 1 January 2014 14: 12
            +3
            Yes, I think our future depends more on how much we will be able to strengthen cooperation and brotherhood between our states and peoples. It is easier to break a bar of bars alone, and when they are connected together, not everyone succeeds. drinks
  24. Zymran
    Zymran 31 December 2013 14: 10
    +5
    I forgot the swamps, well, it’s necessary. And its a Happy New Year, all the best!
    1. marshes
      marshes 31 December 2013 14: 13
      +6
      Quote: Zymran
      I forgot the swamps, well, it’s necessary. And its a Happy New Year, all the best!

      Rahmet, Thank you!
      You too HAPPY NEW YEAR!

      Congratulations to all the participants in the forum.
  25. pamero
    pamero 31 December 2013 14: 16
    +1
    Better together than apart!
  26. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 1 January 2014 11: 02
    +3
    A supranational authority in EuroAzEs cannot exist in principle! All decisions will be lobbied by business structures of various countries (I even know which one)! Equal economic unions are UTOPIA, one way or another, for the sake of integration, wallets of ordinary citizens of countries where the economy is less developed will suffer. Examples are already Germany-Bulgaria, Great Britain-Hungary, etc. I am for a referendum on joining EuroAzEs in every country, so that then people don’t go to the barricades!
  27. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 January 2014 14: 29
    +2
    Quote: Former Mariman
    I am for a referendum on joining EuroAzEs in every country, so that then people don’t go to the barricades!

    I remember the referendum "Who is for the preservation of the USSR .." The majority was for ..! And on the barricades like on a swamp maydaun ... Now it's easy and everything has been worked out .. (the main thing is that the Babaos do it ..)
  28. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 January 2014 14: 42
    0
    The Eurasian Union TC is more likely not the economic benefit or Putin’s language .. It is a system of survival and preservation of cultures and nations ..! If we don’t unite, they will dissolve us as Indians .. we’ll all slowly die on the national reservations ..! I’d rather die in battle than to observe such a life.
  29. duchy
    duchy 1 January 2014 15: 56
    +1
    First: All of you Happy New Year, health, good luck, prosperity, happiness and other benefits. May your wishes come true.
    About the Union; At all times (excuse me, I repeat) no country, the so-called Western shit democracy, did not want the prosperity of Russia and its allies at all times. Do you want them to sing praises now? Yes, in the collapse of our state, they invest such grandmothers that we never dreamed of. To destabilize everything in a row, society, economy, morality, everything that is possible to ruin is their goal. Used everything possible, terrorist attacks, sabotage, etc. etc.
  30. majorserg1978
    majorserg1978 1 January 2014 18: 01
    0
    I propose to count my money and consider my future. Everything else ...... As if bewildering incompetence.
    And Happy New Year to all.
    Every year we have New.
  31. Sid.74
    Sid.74 1 January 2014 21: 55
    +1
    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
    And let's continue to hawk, what will they tell you on TV, we are fine, the United States will soon collapse, the European Union too, GDP is growing and so on.


    And "you" want the opposite? So that every single day they say that everything is bad! That's all the nickname is not in vain for "you" through the bottom hyphen !!! That's the bottom one you think!



    Happy New Year! Here is the first month calendar for you! From Alpha!
    whole look here! http: //twower.livejournal.com/1188038.html
  32. Current 72
    Current 72 1 January 2014 23: 26
    +3
    Happy New Year 2014 dear forum users IN !!! Health, success in all your affairs! Happiness to all YOU and your near and dear ones !!! Here are some, to put it mildly, blame Belarus. For what??? Because she was the first to take the blow of the Nazis, because the republic lost every third inhabitant in this struggle, because we support RUSSIA in everything, because we managed to preserve our industry and agriculture in the hard years of perestroika and the 90s, for the fact that we help YOUR regions to establish YOUR production base. We Belarusians have always expressed and always express tremendous THANKS to all the SOVIET PEOPLE for their help in rebuilding BELARUS. So I ask these some: WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR BELARUS ???
    1. Theophanes
      Theophanes 2 January 2014 00: 55
      +4
      Belarus and the people of Belarus do not like bastards -Leboristics, that is, the Russian government, Chubais and Chubais all svannidzma gozmana, cherished and other rulers of the media and TV channels. The Russian people always admired the heroism of the great Belarusian people !!! Glory to you rebellious !!! Glory to your roots and thank you for being !!!!!!
  33. Theophanes
    Theophanes 2 January 2014 00: 40
    +1
    I do not like Putin. Zurabov is cattle, he has no man to bastard, no problem! For me it’s a killer and a scoundrel !! He is one of those who are in the national camps for people ... And in Ukraine, he does everything that Ukrainians hate Russia!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 2 January 2014 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: Theophanes
      I do not like Putin.

      I also do not like Putin laughing , I love my wife, and to love men is not mine.
  34. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 2 January 2014 09: 33
    +3
    Quote: Theophanes
    I do not like Putin. Zurabov is cattle, he has no man to bastard, no problem! For me it’s a killer and a scoundrel !! He is one of those who are in the national camps for people ... And in Ukraine, he does everything that Ukrainians hate Russia!

    Well, you are over the edge .. Russia would hate if we Ukrainian people (hardworking, talented, kind) threw the corruption of gay Europe for plunder .. Now the factories of the factory will begin to work every day increasing capacities .. "Pensioner" from Ukraine came recently writes that simple hard workers Ukrainians are jealous of Russia .. (in particular, that we have such a leader ..) So do not get angry .. respected .. Everything will be fine!
    1. mountain
      mountain 2 January 2014 10: 23
      +2
      Hi Vitaliy! Yes, I agree, some, and brings not only cornering, but even already on a straight line. And where does all the anger and hatred come from? It seems that they know something that we don’t even know about. So share do not carry in yourself.
  35. samoletil18
    samoletil18 2 January 2014 17: 05
    0
    Group Three (from Western "friends"): The Eurasian Economic Union is a new version of the USSR, which is created by "authoritarian-totalitarian" politicians, and therefore, the very fact of such a creation is aimed at potential aggression against "world democracy" and the formation of a new threat to " progressive "West.

    If you do not rely on the ideological assessment from the West, everything is correct. And what else should the successor of the USSR do? And the "Western" friends "saw through the situation. Although this is a commonplace, it cannot be otherwise: they broke, we are restoring.
  36. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 3 January 2014 12: 00
    0
    fed by phobias and fueled by politicians from the west and not only morally, such resources did not have time to gobble up, it's a shame, right?
  37. alpenstock
    alpenstock 7 January 2014 16: 22
    +1
    it is necessary to develop, it is necessary to cooperate. after the collapse in these former republics it became better? about political elite / puppet / not talking.
    1. Firebox
      Firebox 26 January 2014 20: 25
      +1
      Yes, after the collapse it became better, lively in Kazakhstan, even parents say that it’s better at the moment, only freeloaders and old people who are nostalgic want the USSR, but I don’t see the point anyway