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The Office of Advanced Research and Development in the 1980's tried to create a Skynet (Gizmodo, USA)

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The Office of Advanced Research and Development in the 1980's tried to create a Skynet (Gizmodo, USA)From 1983 to 1993, the United States Department of Defense Advanced Research and Development Office (DARPA) spent over a billion dollars on a program called the Strategic Computing Initiative (Strategic Computer Initiative, or SRS). The goal of DARPA was to expand the boundaries of computing, artificial intelligence and robotics, creating something new, very much like a dystopian future from Terminator films. It wanted to create Skynet.


Like the Ronald Reagan Star Wars program, the SKI idea was too futuristic for its time. But today, when we see striking progress in the creation by the military of artificial intelligence and independent robots, it makes sense to return to this half-forgotten program and ask ourselves: are we ready to live in a world of interconnected electronic brains of killer machines? And one more, perhaps useless question. If we want to stop this, are we too late with our desire?

“The possibilities are truly staggering ...”

If the technology of the new generation develops as we expect, unique new opportunities will appear for the use of computers in military affairs. For example, instead of adopting simple guided missiles or remote-controlled aircraft, it will be possible to launch fully autonomous land, sea and airborne vehicles capable of performing complex and very diverse reconnaissance and strike missions. The possibilities are truly staggering, and they say that the computing technology of the new generation will radically change the nature of future conflicts.

This is an excerpt from the obscure document presented in October 1983 to the congress. It sets out the objectives of the new Strategic Computer Initiative. And like everything else, what DARPA did before and after that, this program turned out to be extremely ambitious.

The concept of the Strategic Computer Initiative was embodied in a completely new system, the development of which was headed by Robert Kahn (Robert Kahn), who led the department of information processing techniques at DARPA. As reported in the Strategic Computing book, published in 2002, Kahn was not the first to get an idea of ​​this system, however, “he was the first to outline the concept and structure of the future Strategic Computer Initiative. He launched this project and defined its content at an early stage. SKI found its own life, it was led by other people, but it retained the influence of Kahn ”.

This system was supposed to create such a world where independent vehicles not only collect intelligence information about the enemy around the world, but also have the capabilities with deadly precision to strike from land, sea and air. SKI was to become a global network connecting all aspects of the US military-technical potential - a potential based on new and incredibly fast computers.

But this network was intended not just for cold and impartial automated information processing. No, the new system had to see, hear, act and react. And most importantly, she had to understand, and without any prompting from the person.

Economic arms race

The origin of the SKI is often associated with technological competition that has arisen between the United States and Japan in the early 1980-s. The Japanese wanted to create a new generation of supercomputers, which were supposed to form the basis of an artificial intelligence system. Combining the economic power of the Japanese state and the new possibilities of the microelectronics and computer industry in the country, they began to create a fifth-generation computer system to achieve their goal.

The goal was to develop incredibly fast computers that allow Japan to break away from other countries (primarily from the United States and the Silicon Valley that was born there) in the race for technological superiority. To accomplish this task, the Japanese gave themselves 10 years. But no matter how they accelerated their machines, they, like the Americans, could not make computers "smarter" at the expense of powerful artificial intelligence.

Japanese aspirations frightened many Americans. They were worried that America was losing its leading technological position. These fears were largely ignited by Edward A. Feigenbaum and Pamela McCorduck’s “The Fifth Generation: Artificial Intelligence and Japan’s Computer Challenge to the World” published in 1983 (“Fifth Generation. Artificial Intelligence and Japanese Computer”). challenge to the world), which has become a must-read literature on Capitol Hill.

In order to popularize the ideas of SKI among the American people and business circles, DARPA insisted that the goal of the initiative from the very beginning was only to advance the country's economic interests. The side effects of this technology were to create new incentives for the US economy, as reported in the DARPA planning document:

The computer technology of the new generation will come to the consumer electronics industry, creating an internal market for the application of machine intelligence.

Appeal to the private sector and the university system also had to provide assistance to the most intelligent and talented in carrying out the tasks of the Office of Advanced Research and Development:

Equally important is the transfer of these technologies to the industry to create a cadre base of engineers and linkers of systems familiar with computer science and machine intelligence technologies, who today study and work in leading university laboratories, as well as the application of these new technologies in the range of products of various companies. To this end, we will fully use the regulations and rules of public procurement relating to the protection of corporate production information, trade secrets, patent rights, licensing standards and license fees.

And what is the conclusion? The government gave guarantees to the private sector that the technologies developed will not be transferred to competing companies.

But economic competition with the Japanese, albeit an important driving motive, caused only secondary concern among politicians entangled in the upheavals of the Cold War. The Republican Party hawks were most concerned with military construction and military buildup. Many of them believed that the military threat coming from the Soviet Union was most important. And the Strategic Computer Initiative had to eliminate this threat.

Connection with Star Wars

The launch of the SRS program and DARPA terms of reference, which appeared in 1983 and 1984, sparked heated debates in the scientific community - the very one that ultimately benefited from funding under this project. Someone expressed doubts about the possibility of implementing ambitious plans to create advanced artificial intelligence. Someone was worried about the fact that with the creation of artificial intelligence for military purposes, the terrible era of independent armies of robots would begin.

And it was a well-founded concern. If the goal of Star Wars (the popular name of the Ronald Reagan Strategic Defense Initiative and the popular political football of the time) is an automatic or semi-automatic response to any nuclear missile threat from the Soviets, then it would be ridiculous not to include it in a larger system of truly sensible machines. The tasks of the two projects, not to mention the institutions that developed them, overlapped and overlapped too much to be a coincidence, although each insisted that it was a coincidence.

From the work of Chris Hables Gray, written in 1988:

The Star Wars Combat Control System, which is perhaps the most complex and large-scale software project in its entirety. history, conceptually (but not administratively) is part of the Strategic Computer Initiative. Making a scientific breakthrough in computing, a much-needed SDI, is the key goal of the SKI.

If you ask someone who has worked in the leadership of the SKI program, then you will be persistent in saying that the Strategic Computer Initiative had nothing to do with Reagan’s dream of Star Wars. But people from the very beginning of the implementation of the SKI conducted a connection between it and the IDF. Partly such associations arose because of the similarity in the names and because they were given the names by one person - Robert Cooper (Robert Cooper), who served as director of the Office of Advanced Research and Development of the US Department of Defense from 1981 to 1985. Or maybe people saw the connection due to the fact that the computer interface systems developed for the SRI were quite logical to be used as an application for the space missile defense strategy.

The use of strategic computer technology on land, at sea and in the air

The overall ICS scheme prepared in 1983 for the year outlined the objective of this initiative. The goal was clear and understandable: to develop an extensive base of artificial intelligence technologies to strengthen national security and economic power. But in order to reach it, the congress and the military departments that were supposed to use the SKI and its advantages in the future, had to see this system in action.

SKI had three hardware implementations that were supposed to prove its combat potential, although by the end of the 1980s it was planned to develop even more such systems. In the forefront of the technical development of the SKI were autonomous ground vehicle ALV, "assistant pilot" and the aircraft carrier combat control system.

These funds were planned to be equipped with incredibly advanced computers, which were designed at Cambridge BBN, best known for their work in creating the first version of the Internet. Computers made it possible to achieve breakthrough successes in areas such as vision systems, language comprehension and navigation. And these are the most important tools for creating an integrated man-machine military force.

A car without a driver - 1985 year

The most sinister appearance of the product, which emerged from the depths of the SKI, was an autonomous ground vehicle ALV. This eight-wheeled car without a driver was three meters in height and four in length. It was equipped with a camera and sensors that were mounted on the roof and controlled the movement of the car, being its “eyes”.

The company Martin Marietta, united in the 1995 year with Lockheed Corporation, which resulted in Lockheed Martin, won the tender for the creation of an experimental autonomous ground vehicle in the summer of 1984. For the three and a half years of the implementation of the SKI program, she should have received 10,6 million dollars (adjusted for inflation, it is 24 million) plus 6 million in addition if the project meets certain benchmarks.

The October Science 1985 issue of Popular Science has an article about the trials that were carried out at Martin Marietta’s secret test site southwest of Denver.

The article's author, Jim Schefter, described the test site at the test site as follows:

The box-shaped blue and white car moves slowly and steadily along a narrow road in the Colorado Valley, not venturing to go far from the centerline. The only window that looks like a Cyclops eye is installed on the front side of the car, but the driver is not visible there. It moves cautiously, almost slunk, which seems somewhat out of place for this eight-wheel, three-meter vehicle height. Although it has three snarling diesel engines installed, the car travels slowly, at a speed of less than five kilometers per hour.

After about a kilometer, the clumsy car stops. But nobody leaves it. Just in the car there is nobody - only one computer. Using a laser and a video camera as an eye, an experimental, but already very complex artificial intelligence program leads the car on the road without human intervention.

DARPA joined forces with Martin Marietta and the University of Maryland, which did a lot of work to create a vision system. Such an association seemed important to ensure success in developing a land vehicle.

Creating a video system for an autonomous car turned out to be incredibly difficult. It can be misleading light and shadow, and therefore the degree of reliability she was not enough. In the afternoon she discovered the roadside without problems, but because of the evening shadows at sunset she could easily slip into a ditch.

Any changes in the environment (for example, dirt from under the wheels of another car) also confused the vision system. This was unacceptable even under test conditions at the site. If a machine does not cope with such simple obstacles, then how will it act in difficult and unpredictable combat conditions with countless variables?

By November 1987, the autonomous ground vehicle had been significantly improved, but by the end of the year it was virtually abandoned. Although the car was rather primitive, some DARPA experts thought it was too quickly discarded.

As a result, she could not overcome her unpreparedness for battle. As Alex Roland points out in his book Strategic Computing, “one officer who did not understand the purpose of the ALV program at all complained that the car was completely useless in military terms: very slow and white, which makes it an easy target on the battlefield. " In April, 1988, the Advanced Research and Development Authority, officially discontinued work on it.

R2-D2, but in real life

The second practical embodiment of the Strategic Computer Initiative was the “assistant pilot”. The developers imagined it as an invisible robot R2-D2 - a smart companion who understands the simple language of the pilot. This assistant could, for example, detect the enemy’s target and ask the pilot if it was necessary to destroy it. Something like "The best shooter" in the company of Siri's personal assistant from iphone.

In this scenario, the final decision was up to the pilot. But his assistant had to be smart enough not only to know who was asking questions, what he was asking, and how to ask questions himself. He had to understand why.

Here are lines from the SKI planning document:

A huge amount of information falls on a pilot in battle, he is constantly in touch, and on this basis must make decisions on which his life often depends. He also has a huge number of buttons, switches and buttons on the panels and control knobs that require great clarity and accuracy. Each of the hundreds of parts is designed for its own, well-defined and important goals, but the underlying technologies are far ahead of our ability to competently and intelligently establish the interaction between these components and the pilot.

And it was here that the Advanced Research and Development Administration decided that it needed its own Skynet. New features of the fighting, associated with the rapid development of military technology, demanded a clear interaction between the machine and man - and this was the key to success in battle. The pilot still pressed the buttons, but these computers had to think for him at least half. If humanity does not have time, it is necessary to connect to the operation of the machine.

The program "assistant pilot" was not covered in the American press in the same amount as the autonomous ground vehicle. Perhaps this was due to the fact that it was much harder to imagine than a huge tank driving along the road without a driver. But if you look at today's speech recognition technologies, it will become clear what all these studies led to by the “assistant pilot”.

Invisible Robot Advisor

The command and control system became the third practical embodiment of the SKI program, designed to prove its expediency.

Here is what Roland writes about this in his book Strategic Computing:

In the naval combat control complex SKI, an artificial intelligence system had to draw conclusions about the enemy and its troops, combat strength and order of battle, taking into account uncertainties, work out strike options, carry out simulation modeling in order to evaluate these options, develop operational plans and present arguments and explanations.

The combat control system was essentially the brain of the entire operation, and for this reason it was kept secret, unlike the ALV. Driving on the road without a driver, the robot can frighten many. Invisible robot with an invisible finger on the nuclear button? Well, to publish press releases on this topic is unlikely to anyone wants.

The combat control system was designed as a software application specifically for the Navy. (An autonomous ground vehicle was created specifically for the ground forces, and an “assistant pilot” for the Air Force.) But in fact, it was just a cover for a more universal system. All these technologies were planned to be used in perspective where they will be most needed. The speech recognition program developed for the “assistant pilot” was planned to be used in all types of armed forces, and not only in the Air Force. And the combat control system should have been suitable for everyone - except, of course, the enemy.

Build Skynet together

All the various components of the Strategic Computer Initiative were part of a larger hypothetical system that could radically change the nature of war in the 21st century.

Imagine a global wireless network that controls many other subordinate networks in the US military. Imagine how armies are robotic tanks they talk with swarms of drones in the sky and submarines without crews at sea - and the interaction between them is much faster than any human commander could do. Now imagine that all this is much more complicated with nuclear missiles awaiting launch into space.

The concept of Strategic Computer Initiative was incredibly brave, and at the same time, a bit unusual, if you think about how far it could lead us. The logic of the further development of artificial intelligence and the worldwide network of killer machines is not difficult to imagine, if only because we have seen it in books and movies without a score.

Future of war and peace

The strategic computer initiative at the beginning of 90-s was finally destroyed by the realization that it was simply impossible to create powerful artificial intelligence like the one that DARPA imagined. But if all these technologies and technical innovations developed in 1980's seem strangely familiar to us, it is because the media speak and write about them at the beginning of the 21st century.

Vision systems from an autonomous ground vehicle are embodied in Atlas-type robots from Boston Dynamics. We see that the speech recognition system type Siri from the "assistant pilot" is used in the US Air Force. A stand-alone machine is experiencing Google, along with many other firms. All these are technologies of future wars. And if you believe Google, it is also the technology of the world of the future.

Google Inc. recently bought Boston Dynamics, and it caused a great surprise among those who are concerned about the future with armies of independent robots. Google claims that Boston Dynamics will fulfill all of its old contracts with military customers, but will not enter into new ones.

But whether or not Google will accept orders from the military (which is quite possible, since they can do it secretly, using funds from their “black” budget), there is no doubt that the line between civilian and military technology has always been blurred. If Boston Dynamics will never again work with organizations like DARPA, but Google will benefit from research funded by the military, then you can probably say that the system works.

The military achieved what they needed by promoting research in the field of robotics through a private company. And now the results of these military technologies will make themselves felt in our everyday civilian life - as well as many other technologies, including the Internet.

In truth, this article only contains a drop in the ocean from among those plans that the Advanced Research and Development Authority bore under the SKI. Hopefully, by continuing to explore yesterday's promising concepts, we can gain some historical experience and better understand that our new achievements did not come from the air. They cannot even be called innovations. This is the result of years of research and billions of dollars in allocations that have been mastered by hundreds of organizations, both public and private.

Ultimately, the Strategic Computer Initiative was eliminated not because of the fear that it could bring to our world. It is just that the technologies for its implementation did not develop quickly enough - this also applies to artificial intelligence and autonomous vehicles. But for twenty years since the collapse of the SKI, all these developments of smart machines continued.

The future with very intelligent and interconnected robots has almost become real. We do not have to love him, but we cannot say that no one warned us about him.
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  1. StrateG
    StrateG 28 December 2013 16: 05
    +2
    The Americans, along with Germany of the Third Reich, are always trying to make a child prodigy ... lasers, robots ...
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 28 December 2013 16: 21
      +4
      Quote: StrateG
      The Americans, along with Germany of the Third Reich, are always trying to make a child prodigy ... lasers, robots ...

      This is called the arms lobby, as these lasers and robots cost a lot of money, which brings with it no less than a large bunch of kickbacks and other nishtyaks.
      1. clidon
        clidon 28 December 2013 21: 34
        0
        And what does the defense industry need to produce and develop?
        1. pawel1961
          pawel1961 4 January 2014 00: 33
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          absolutely. all that is necessary.
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 28 December 2013 16: 26
      +1
      The film in the subject of the article:

      "On the hook" reveals the topic better than "terminator"

      http://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/387477/

    3. Siberian German
      Siberian German 28 December 2013 20: 50
      +5
      I agree with you - but it is also necessary to understand that when creating child prodigies, a lot of areas are developing - material science. physics. chemistry yes you never know what other topics and this is a big plus
    4. Cherdak
      Cherdak 29 December 2013 15: 46
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      Quote: StrateG
      The only window that looks like the cyclops eye is mounted on the front of the car, but the driver is not visible there.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 29 December 2013 22: 54
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        Gee, well, a sight! I accidentally know one of the authors of a Soviet robot with technical vision, the very first. That robot weighed about a hundred kilograms and drove very smartly, by no means five kilometers per hour.
        As I understand it, you can get artificial intelligence. Only it will be uncontrollable, because we do not know what it is - intelligence. We only know that this is not addition or floating point operations. But if you stubbornly increase computing power, bringing it to the power of the human brain - the mind will apparently appear. So what? Women with the advent of another reasonable deal quite worthily and much cheaper. The technical monster will have no advantages, since the processing speed of the human brain is enormous. While this is a dead end.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 30 December 2013 05: 05
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          Something like the mind will appear — for the mind has the ability to choose actions based on the analysis of incoming data — according to a certain algorithm.
          When the algorithm is determined by any settings, this is AI, and when this algorithm is determined based on experience, it is IR.
          Well, there are all sorts of subtypes, more emotional behavior "female", etc.
    5. pawel1961
      pawel1961 4 January 2014 00: 31
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      yes it's all tales. what really happens in the laboratories no one knows.
  2. major071
    major071 28 December 2013 16: 07
    +3
    Immediately I remembered the film "The Terminator", maybe everything goes to this, and I will not exclude the option on the film "Lawnmower", if anyone remembers this miracle of "Hollywood".
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 28 December 2013 20: 27
      -1
      Quote: major071
      Immediately I remembered the film "The Terminator", maybe everything goes to this, and I will not exclude the option on the film "Lawnmower", if anyone remembers this miracle of "Hollywood".

      There is a new direction in science fiction - cyberpunk and its part - Literary and Political Party, for those who believe in the terminator and lawn mower.
  3. VADEL
    VADEL 28 December 2013 16: 11
    +8
    The Pentagon under the slogan: "Catch up with and overtake Hollywood!" fool
  4. moremansf
    moremansf 28 December 2013 16: 20
    +1
    Hollywood fiction to life !!! Well, we also have - nanotechnology and Skolkovo ...
    Quote: VADEL
    : "Catch up and surpass Hollywood!"

    You look and surpass ...
  5. Rotmistr8892
    Rotmistr8892 28 December 2013 16: 21
    +3
    "Ponty is more expensive for a thief than money" ~ I mean, America is trying to make a derivative of a gondola every time, but so far something is not working out very well
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 28 December 2013 16: 37
      +6
      Quote: Rotmistr8892
      America tries to make an airship from a gondola every time


      Each gondola fancies itself an airship ....
    2. clidon
      clidon 28 December 2013 21: 36
      +3
      Are you talking about the most advanced army in the world? In my opinion on the pragmatism of armaments, the US military has gone far ahead. At least the high unification of weapons is traditionally with them, not ours.

      The United States had a technological advantage; they tried to get ahead due to it. Actually, as we, for example, are trying to do the same in the areas accessible to us.
    3. SSR
      SSR 29 December 2013 21: 51
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      And why is Israel at the forefront of the sale of military technology / systems? )))) as Israeli experts themselves admit ... The collapse of the USSR gave a huge influx of highly qualified engineers who have no analogues in the world, and this is absolutely true, the USSR relied on education in physics, mathematics, chemistry.
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 28 December 2013 16: 27
    +1
    In the near future there will not be and will not be an alternative to the human mind.
    Skynet is a matter of the distant future.
    1. nik6006
      nik6006 28 December 2013 17: 07
      +10
      A car from Google is already driving, drones are flying and unmanned submarines are already diving, the future has come. A creative mind only in the future is something less and less visible.
      1. saber1357
        saber1357 29 December 2013 00: 54
        +2
        Dude, are you overheating or what? Where does he go - American roads stuffed with electronics? This is ridiculous, pure PR - they tested the car under sterile conditions and rang a hundred times. Come on, start such a machine on Leningradka, after 5 minutes nothing will remain of it.
      2. avg
        avg 29 December 2013 12: 40
        +3
        Quote: nik6006
        A creative mind only in the future is something less and less visible.

        The successes of technological progress, combined with the decline of culture, make mankind more and more dangerous. First of all, for yourself and your planet. Simply put, a monkey changes a club to a grenade, simultaneously becoming even more aggressive.
      3. shuhartred
        shuhartred 29 December 2013 19: 37
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        Quote: nik6006
        A car from Google is already driving, drones are flying and unmanned submarines are already diving, the future has come. A creative mind only in the future is something less and less visible.

        Everything you need is just everything complicated is unnecessary. M. Kalashnikov. And try to argue !!
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 28 December 2013 17: 09
      +4
      There should not be an alternative in the future, because all breakthroughs in all areas were made and are being made at the moment when the person himself thinks outside the box. Even if you upload a bunch of templates into something, you will still find someone who will come up with something better. The only plus of technology is the speed of calculation, but it has a limit, and the human mind has no limit.
      1. nik6006
        nik6006 28 December 2013 18: 11
        +5
        I agree, but not in the main thing, the rudiments of the mind, the so-called artificial intelligence, already exist, but there is no and will not be a full-fledged rational being. if artificial intelligence arises (is born) all the same, it will be a completely different, non-human race, well, not a race, even several instances, we simply will not be able to control it if it has free will. On the other hand, if we do not give free will to the intellect, then it will never become rational. And uncontrolled artificial intelligence, which itself sets tasks and decides how it wants and solves itself - no one will ever allow this. in any case, not here on planet Earth.
        You cannot embed the laws of robotics into your mind, it’s not a robot, you can only instill in it a system of values, educate it in human traditions, give it morality, but if it has its own thoughts and ideas, and since it’s a rational being, then they should arise - thoughts and ideas, then IT can do as he pleases. If we do not always understand our children, then it will certainly be very difficult to predict how the mind will equal, where to grow and what IT wants.
        1. saber1357
          saber1357 29 December 2013 00: 56
          -3
          Well you give it dude. Here on the forum there are three candidates of physics and mathematics and one doctor, and you tell them about the so-called. "artificial intelligence"? Well, very funny, honestly. If only I could read Wikipedia (in English) to understand the meaning of the word.
          1. nik6006
            nik6006 29 December 2013 01: 11
            +5
            I'm not a "dude" for you, and you don't need to poke me around. And as for AI, this philosophical problem has been solved for 100 years and it is not clear what is better, to create or not. And there is a big difference between AI and artificial intelligence.
  7. horoh
    horoh 28 December 2013 16: 34
    +1
    The article is of course interesting in terms of fiction, but on the other hand the devil knows what the man-caused process will lead to !!! The so-called chipping has already begun, and what's next, artificial intelligence already exists, and with a self-learning program !!!
  8. Ivan.
    Ivan. 28 December 2013 16: 46
    +1
    are we ready to live in a world of interconnected electronic brain killer machines? And one more, possibly useless question. If we want to stop this, are we not late with our desire?

    They were late for a long time because the peoples do not realize this danger.
    After chipping, much will become elementary in terms of "electronic control" over humanity. Here are a couple of very outdated and not secret technologies, I generally keep quiet about the secret ones.
    [media = http: //vk.com/video73968893_153804487]

  9. voliador
    voliador 28 December 2013 17: 16
    0
    Even now it is not possible to implement.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 28 December 2013 19: 17
      0
      Quote: voliador
      Even now it is not possible to implement.

      This is more a matter of the distant future, because this is not about creating artificial intelligence, but about a complex system
      it will be possible to launch fully autonomous ground, sea and air vehicles capable of performing complex and very diverse reconnaissance and striking missions. The possibilities are truly staggering, and they say that next-generation computing will fundamentally change the nature of future conflicts.

      Only aliens can help us create such a technique now. laughing
  10. mountain
    mountain 28 December 2013 17: 17
    +1
    Yes, you will remember just recently a flash memory appeared, and about ten years ago, these devices were used in all intelligence. Or sotiks as they were. like a brick, but now there’s nothing in it. Or robots in space, but controlled from the ground. So, we will see more masterpieces of technical and electronic creativity.
  11. intsurfer
    intsurfer 28 December 2013 17: 24
    0
    highly recommend watching Battlestar Galactica and its prequel Caprica. This is where our "future" or "past" is shown in all its glory. ;)
  12. Keeper
    Keeper 28 December 2013 17: 25
    +1
    The nice thing is that not a single car can sell in Siberian 40-degree colds !!!
    No machine is designed to withstand electronic interference and electric bombs, like a nuclear strike - burning and turning off all electrical appliances ...
    Not a single machine has the willpower and human spirit that survives where it is impossible to survive by all principles of nature!
    And what is really nice is that people are gradually beginning to realize that they are not the kings of Nature, and they have a rather modest place with respect to the diverse animal world ...
    1. nik6006
      nik6006 28 December 2013 18: 21
      +4
      You just don’t understand what you’re talking about. We have come close to the moment when artificial intelligence can gain willpower and inhuman spirit.

      It doesn’t matter what kind of limbs, eyes and ears he has, he may look just like a box with microcircuits. Whether he can blow-40 in the cold or survive under water at a depth of thousands of meters, this also does not matter if he learns to control human technology and decides for himself what he wants. Maybe he decides to strangle himself from such a filthy life, or vice versa - to destroy all people, or people may just be uninteresting to him and he will not notice us. It is important that this will be a non-human mind, devoid of human desires and aspirations. So the question is, do you need to create it?
      1. saber1357
        saber1357 29 December 2013 01: 00
        -5
        Yes, here it is artificial intelligence - comments are written under nik6006 ...
        1. nik6006
          nik6006 29 December 2013 01: 07
          +3
          Not sure if you have it at all.
    2. ars_pro
      ars_pro 29 December 2013 03: 00
      +1
      One way or another, it works in accordance with the laws that people study, and not only in the scientific research character, spending their whole lives learning about at least one law or phenomenon, if a person has the opportunity to experience and implement it in a practical way, I consider it useful and necessary business. The creation of the mind, even if it is within the framework of an extremely complex system, and it doesn’t even matter with which functions and structure, regardless of the modeling system, according to one classification or another, I think is interesting if only for the sake of success. The creation of the Living Mind can only be created by GOD !!!
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 28 December 2013 17: 48
    -1
    I understand that progress is endless ... but, Lord, how does it sometimes annoy.
  14. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 28 December 2013 17: 50
    +1
    Quote: But today, when we see amazing successes in the creation of artificial intelligence and independent robots by the military, it makes sense to return to this half-forgotten program and ask ourselves the question: are we ready to live in a world of killer-connected electronic brains?

    There was a message in the press that during the field tests of the terminator robot, a failure occurred in his program and out of control robot killer began to hunt for its creators. The tests were stopped and the injured (wounded) were sent to the hospital. So that not everything is as simple as it seems in reality.
  15. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 28 December 2013 18: 45
    +1
    Technique will always remain technique, even with "intellect". And he will only help a person even in savage tasks. And even the most human will remain human.
  16. homosum20
    homosum20 28 December 2013 19: 30
    0
    I think the Aegis system grew out of there. Recently, a rocket model made a hole of 2,9 meters in the Aegis destroyer superstructure, either banging or injuring 2 sailors. Further success and budget allocations to the future system. God forbid that in the future all the money America flew into such holes.
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 4 January 2014 00: 37
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      Quote: homosum20
      Recently, a missile model made a hole of 2,9 meters in the Aegis destroyer superstructure, either banging or injuring 2 sailors.

      Yeah, can you come up with reasons?
  17. rolik2
    rolik2 28 December 2013 19: 32
    0
    Specialists of Lexus and Kmel Robotics have set the most difficult task: to synchronize the movements of robots flying at high speed. A deviation of 1 millimeter from the calculated position is equated to failure.

    The task was successfully solved. In many ways, thanks to choosing the right operating system. What OS can be trusted control over a dozen flying objects? Well, not Windows, indeed. Attention to the screens:
  18. Grbear
    Grbear 28 December 2013 19: 57
    +3
    I do not share the optimism of frost-resistant guys with a large microwave. Practical use of drones is not the biggest EVIL, no matter how developed their brains are. The problem is in "people".

    The amount of information is increasing exponentially, or something like that (and there is no idea when quantity will turn into quality), but the level of education is falling all over the world. Is not it? So. But there is no need to lift it. It is enough to establish accounting and "catch" gifted children. The rest are plankton. And this is already being done.

    It must be understood that the selected, gifted children start from a different level of knowledge, but have no restraining force in the form of moral values, except for those that are suggested to them. And robots will do the "iron" part of the job. There is no doubt about it.

    In general, it is rather an ethical and philosophical problem, but it is material.
    1. nik6006
      nik6006 28 December 2013 22: 14
      +1
      absolutely agree. it’s not in the gland, and not even in the brains, but in the soul or something. It seems to me that it’s impossible, to endow the mind with soulless microcircuits
  19. sak1969
    sak1969 28 December 2013 22: 48
    -1
    Quote: rolik2
    Specialists of Lexus and Kmel Robotics have set the most difficult task: to synchronize the movements of robots flying at high speed. A deviation of 1 millimeter from the calculated position is equated to failure.

    The task was successfully solved. In many ways, thanks to choosing the right operating system. What OS can be trusted control over a dozen flying objects? Well, not Windows, indeed. Attention to the screens:

    After reading the comments, and seeing the fear of artificial intelligence,
    I conclude (this is the fear of savages blowing on a light bulb.)
    And of course there are reasons for this. In the production of microelectronics Russia in
    deep anus, there is no way to bring to the market its own computer hardware, and its own operating systems.
    And since we are not the manufacturers of microelectronics chips (computer offsets), it is clear that our country is vulnerable. It is still unknown to what extent we control (the world wide web).
    What artificial intelligence, when many have no idea what can
    their smartphone on android. And all the cream of society with gadgets from Apple.
    I mean, all this is potentially enemy stuff.
    In general, I wanted to say that until we wake up an advanced country in the field of microelectronics, animal fear of artificial intelligence
    all that remains for us. But the fact is that the symbiosis of two kinds of reason is inevitable. And what will come of it? Perhaps this is the way to become a god!
    1. BOMBER
      BOMBER 29 December 2013 00: 10
      -9
      We definitely cannot catch up with America in the field of electronics, all the more funny to read about the collapse of the dollar and America) This is the most powerful economy in the world, even if they print their dollars. By the way, the dollar has been growing recently wink
  20. kelevra
    kelevra 29 December 2013 00: 15
    +1
    Just play out to the terminators! Such technology will get out of control and what then to do!
  21. ReifA
    ReifA 29 December 2013 01: 10
    +2
    Science fiction writers often turned out to be visionaries. I would not like a reality like "Terminator"
  22. sak1969
    sak1969 29 December 2013 01: 31
    0
    Quote: kelevra
    Just play out to the terminators! Such technology will get out of control and what then to do!

    I think there’s nothing terrible. The last word is always for the person.
    Artificial intelligence is very far away. Perhaps it will be quantum computers. In the meantime, humanity is only beginning to create nanoelectronics. And by then, the person himself will be integrated into the computer, that is, he himself will be part of the machine. And in the short term, technology type (avatar), in the sense of an advanced drone.
    In general, interesting anime "Ghost in the Shell".
  23. shinobi
    shinobi 29 December 2013 06: 49
    +2
    Even at the time of our students, our computer science class put a simple thought into our brains: Intelligence is a set of information and not the ability to think about it. And what you put into the car, you will get it out. I mean, if you put a function in the drone kill, he will kill. And a system glitch can serve as a signal for this. As it was two years ago, the Israelis killed 7 people, 18 were injured when an anti-aircraft robot worked at the training ground. He switched on due to a failure in the command chain and began to crumble everything that didn’t have an answering machine friend or foe.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 4 January 2014 00: 22
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      Quote: shinobi
      ... As it was two years ago, among the Israelis. 7 people died, 18 was injured when an anti-aircraft robot started working at the training ground. He switched on due to a failure in the command chain and started crumbling everything that had no friend or friend answering machines.

      Was it in a parallel universe? belay
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  25. Ross
    Ross 29 December 2013 12: 53
    +1
    Quote: VADEL
    The Pentagon under the slogan: "Catch up with and overtake Hollywood!" fool

    In fact, Hollywood only states the facts of what closed scientists of the West actually do
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 29 December 2013 13: 13
      +1
      Quote: Ross
      In fact, Hollywood only states the facts of what closed scientists of the West actually do

      Partially, but yes, about "the Philadelphia experiment, we only know because it went wrong" and how many we do not know because how it happened, sometimes Hollywood deliberately misleads to direct the thought aside. Hollywood is, among other things, an information weapon, and its owners (representatives of the small nation) do not particularly hide their intentions.
  26. sak1969
    sak1969 29 December 2013 13: 03
    0
    Quote: shinobi
    Even at the time of our students, our computer science class put a simple thought into our brains: Intelligence is a set of information and not the ability to think about it. And what you put into the car, you will get it out. I mean, if you put a function in the drone kill, he will kill. And a system glitch can serve as a signal for this. As it was two years ago, the Israelis killed 7 people, 18 were injured when an anti-aircraft robot worked at the training ground. He switched on due to a failure in the command chain and began to crumble everything that didn’t have an answering machine friend or foe.

    Well, on a local scale, let’s say at the training grounds, or in third world countries the death of people from a mad fighting robot, such cases will certainly happen. (When testing new equipment, or technology, this is possible.) The main thing is that such tragedies do not grow out, well, let's say to the size (Kursk) when an underwater robot can attack a strategic missile carrier ...
  27. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 December 2013 14: 27
    0
    Well, in general, the technique is developing. So something there should not be afraid. True, our answer to such a development is not a struggle by the same means, but the breaking of everything. That is, figs, and only the card in the tablet, binoculars and compass work.))
  28. Cherdak
    Cherdak 29 December 2013 17: 25
    0
    Americans have long since answered the question: "Who is the mother of war for?"
  29. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 29 December 2013 20: 59
    0
    I wonder who the first robot will replace: a worker or a manager. Or who is more profitable to replace with artificial intelligence. In my opinion, just those who create these monsters.
    1. clidon
      clidon 30 December 2013 05: 12
      0
      Robots are already replacing workers.