Heaped technocrat. Lavrenti Beria fell victim to Khrushchev intrigues

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60 years ago it announced the execution of Stalin's closest ally

Exactly 60 years ago, according to the official version, the iconic man of the Stalin era did not become. However, the “gone” in the case of Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria sounds, of course, too simple. After all, it was not just the execution of an espionage sentence. After decades, not only researchers (they - the lucky ones! - gained access to some of the hitherto secret archives), but also to a very wide audience, numerous fans historical Journalists have opened up new details, forcing, if not to reconsider the “textbook” image of one of Stalin’s closest associates, then at least “clarify” it.

The fact that the execution of Lavrenty Beria (however, there is reason to believe that on December 23 of the 1953 of the year there was either no shooting at all, or a twin of Beria was shot - see KM.RU Help) was, in fact, the elimination of an unwanted opponent in the fight for power, to doubt today is simply indecent: it is painfully obvious, to say the least, facts - both indirect and direct. In particular, Beria’s accusation of espionage simply does not have a factual basis as such - only some “information”, some “conclusions”. Everything would be fine, but the interest of one character, which ultimately prevailed in intrigue and led the country, was clearly visible in the whole story. Where is a separate issue.

Today, it only remains for us to pay tribute to the landmark figure in the history of our country in one of its most difficult and tragic periods.

In a conversation with the KM.RU columnist, the legendary Zamsovnarkom was recalled by a well-known publicist and best-selling author “Why Russia is Not America,” “How Russia Beats America,” and others, Andrei Parchev:

- The fact is that in the Soviet Union, starting from 1947, the death penalty was abolished, and even the killers of law enforcement officers were not shot, but sentenced to 25 years of imprisonment. Somewhere in a few years, the death penalty still began to be used in strictly defined cases - for example, in cases of treason against the Motherland in the form of espionage, sabotage, and so on.

Beria’s problem was that he was, above all, a very senior leader. In some respects, he was higher in rank than Georgy Malenkov, who was the party leader on a par with Khrushchev. But Beria was rather “on the farm”: during the war he was the first deputy chairman of the Council of People's Commissars, which, in administrative terms, meant that he was actually the head of state. The fact is that the post of “secretary general” was not quite official: the Communist Party, oddly enough, was considered something of a public organization.

And, in principle, it can even be considered that the appointment of Lavrentiy Beria after the death of Stalin as Minister of the Interior was, in my opinion, actually degraded, but everyone understood that his real situation did not deteriorate, but, on the contrary, only increased . The former leaders knew perfectly well that Beria was part of a peculiar triumvirate of Malenkov — Beria — Khrushchev, as they were also ironically called, “the group of Young Turks”. Moreover, Khrushchev did not deny this fact, but he answered evasively to detailed questions about the meaning of that “troika”, rejecting the version of any of its political significance. In fact, it is obvious that it was such a group that was going to come to power in the country. But inside the triumvirate, a conflict has matured, the basis of which was Khrushchev's understanding that he would not have drawn into the status of the main head of state within this group.

I recently participated in a TV show, where Malenkov’s son told, from the words of his father, why he “turned in” Beria. Shortly before the arrest of Beria, Khrushchev came to Malenkov and told him that Beria allegedly wanted to kill him and for this purpose he was recruiting him - Khrushchev. Naturally, the frightened Malenkov sanctioned the arrest of Beria.

Of course, we must pay tribute to Khrushchev: being a poorly educated man, he technically outplayed everyone in the battle for the Kremlin. Later, Khrushchev (albeit a much less bloody path) was able to remove Malenkov from power. But in general, this story clearly shows the strongest fear experienced by the party elite in relation to Beria. For this, it was not a pity to even cancel the "era of mercy." Such is the specificity of our state. It is pyramidal in structure and centralized. But this is even more dangerous when the top of the pyramid begins to shake from conflicts, weakening the whole pyramid of power.

Beria was extremely authoritative, not because someone as a politician “created” and “exalted” him, although Stalin's benevolent attitude towards him certainly played a role. Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria himself was an extremely clever man, which, in particular, was also manifested in his peculiar wit. He was a highly educated man who even noted such ardent critics of the Stalin era as Solzhenitsyn. And all these qualities Beria was able to cultivate in himself independently, sometimes engaging in self-education.

At the same time, often mistakenly or maliciously, Beria is considered to be involved in the repressions of 1937-38. These repressions were organized by the political leadership of the country, including partly according to the demands of the lower classes. But after all, Beria in those years was not at all part of the country's top political leadership and objectively could not participate in these matters! He entered the Politburo only in 1946 year. Only full members of the Politburo had a decisive vote at its meetings, where all decisions on repression were taken, and of the candidate members only the senior candidate had the right to vote, and even if the members of the Politburo were equal. Beria is also blamed for other episodes that occurred after the repressions of 1937-38, but upon close and careful study of them more often you come to the conclusion that everything is not so obvious there either.

We still do not quite well imagine what Beria was doing when he was in charge of the security forces (from the end of the 1930s to the middle of the 1940s). In essence, he created a parallel industrial empire within the NKVD, which was not built on slave labor, no matter what anyone said. And in this field his merits are very great. He oversaw the production of ammunition - this is the nuclear industry, created with the closest participation of science using high-tech at that time.

What is the Soviet atomic bomb? This is a fusion of intelligence, science, technology, organization. And it was Beria who organized this rafting, which ultimately allowed our country to become world leaders for many years. Do the US have a monopoly on atomic weapon - the world in general and our country in particular would look radically different than now.
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  1. +47
    28 December 2013 08: 30
    Few people know that Khrushchev personally signed the shooting lists and sent for approval to the POLITBUREAU.
    1. +31
      28 December 2013 08: 42
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Few people know that Khrushchev personally signed the shooting lists and sent for approval to the POLITBUREAU.

      Dear colleague Aleksey, at that time (and at that time Khrushchev held the posts of 1 secretary of the CPSU (b) of Ukraine and the Moscow city committee of the CPSU (b), he was obliged to certify such lists with his signature.
      Another thing is that Khrushchev N.S. his irrepressibility and desire to be the first, he even received a shout from Stalin in a telegram: "Calm down."
      1. +16
        28 December 2013 11: 16
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Few people know that Khrushchev personally signed the shooting lists and sent for approval to the POLITBUREAU.

        Dear colleague Aleksey, at that time (and at that time Khrushchev held the posts of 1 secretary of the CPSU (b) of Ukraine and the Moscow city committee of the CPSU (b), he was obliged to certify such lists with his signature.
        Another thing is that Khrushchev N.S. his irrepressibility and desire to be the first, he even received a shout from Stalin in a telegram: "Calm down."

        In fact, JV Stalin said to Khrushchev - "Calm down D * urak!" Khrushch harbored a toad 100% after such words addressed to him.
        1. avt
          +20
          28 December 2013 11: 22
          Quote from tenere1200
          Toad Khrushchev harbored 100% after such words addressed to him.

          Rather, he avenged his elder son, and from that he was Vasiliy locked in Central Vladimirsky, and Sudoplatov and his team there, even not in the zone, he reeled off the full term there.
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          2. +2
            28 December 2013 15: 48
            From the first day, Leonid Nikitovich Khrushchev participated in the Great Patriotic War as part of the 134 Bomber Aviation Regiment, based in the Andreapol area (Kalinin region, 46 Air Division. He made 12 combat missions, was awarded 1941 for the year X in the summer of X. awarded two orders of the Red Banner.
            Posthumously awarded the Order of the Patriotic War I degree
            1. avt
              +12
              28 December 2013 16: 22
              Quote: Vadim2013
              He made 12 sorties, in the summer of 1941 he was presented to the Order of the Red Banner. He was awarded two orders of the Red Banner.

              And who disputes this? However, officially - “disappeared without a trace.” The fact that his subordinates Abakumov and Sudoplatov were looking for, no one even from the family disputes. And the fact that they worked with those who were in captivity at the time of his disappearance is also a fact. Until now, no one publishes cases about his disappearance and the Khrushchev family is silent as if they were killed, even in our time and does not give any hints. The same Sirozha Khrushchev, who is now an American citizen, took the amers' oath under the camera, waving a flag. "I risked my life" I passed it to the west, but about my brother Lenya and his searches by the competent authorities, and even more so, he is in no hurry to voice the conclusions of these bodies with specific links. And are there any? Also a question to Nykyta, it’s too fast he archives I cleaned it up, preparing for the XXM Congress.
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              2. +1
                28 December 2013 17: 06
                I repeat: "He was posthumously awarded the Order of the Patriotic War of the XNUMXst degree" even under Joseph Stalin.
                "The award list for it was drawn up by the commander of the 18th Guards Fighter Regiment of the Guard, Major Golubov, on April 3, 1943. The commander of the 303rd Fighter Aviation Division, Major General of Aviation Zakharov, signed this document on April 4, 1943, that is, at the time when L N. Khrushchev was not yet considered dead, Only on April 11, 1943, N. S. Khrushchev received a letter from the commander of the 1st Air Army, Lieutenant General S. A. Khudyakov, which said: “For a month we did not lose hope of returning Your son, but the circumstances under which he did not return, and the period that has elapsed since that time, force an hour to draw a mournful conclusion that your son, Guard Senior Lieutenant Leonid Nikitich Khrushchev, died a heroic death in an air battle against the German invaders. " there is no word “posthumously.” The award sheet was drawn up a week before L.N. Khrushchev was officially declared dead. In addition, one of the archival documents states that “on hail awarded. "
                1. +7
                  28 December 2013 18: 47
                  Quote: Vadim2013
                  "Posthumously awarded the Order of the Patriotic War of the XNUMXst degree" even under Joseph Stalin.

                  Continuing the theme:
                  Neither the pilots nor the command say that Leonid Khrushchev died, in his personal file the mark “Missing.” It happened on March 11, 1943. From this day, various rumors, versions, frauds, erasures and replacement of documents in the personal file of senior lieutenant Khrushchev begin. What for? Why? It seems to me that he most fully and reliably answers these questions as a person who is better informed than anyone else in the affairs of secrets, - the KGB general V. Udilov, who served in counterintelligence for 37 years. His memoirs concerning the case of L. Khrushchev were published in the Nezavisimaya Gazeta on February 17.02.1998, 2000 and in the Version in August XNUMX:
                  “L. Khrushchev fell into the hands of the judiciary more than once. Before the war, he contacted bandits in Kiev. They were caught and shot by the court, and the son of Nikita Sergeyevich miraculously escaped punishment. After the incident in Kuibyshev, Khrushchev begged Stalin to spare his son. And begged. In the very first battle, a fighter piloted by L. Khrushchev left for the Germans and disappeared without a trace. I heard the version of the continuation (for a long time) from the lips of employees of the department of administrative bodies of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB of the USSR. The son of Khrushchev, either on his own initiative, or because of an emergency landing, was captured by the Germans. Either considering himself offended by the Soviet regime, or for some other reason, he entered into a conspiracy with the Germans. The command of Stalin followed - to steal the son of Khrushchev. The operation could have been carried out: the SMERSH counterintelligence, then led by Colonel General Abakumov, and those who participated in the destruction of Trotsky abroad. During the war, they were led by Lieutenant General Sudoplatov. Shortly before his death, Pavel Anatolyevich told me that his subordinates may have participated in the abduction of L. Khrushchev, but did not go into details. Khrushchev's son was delivered to Moscow. SMERSH collected documentary facts about the sins of L. Khrushchev. The military tribunal of the Moscow military district sentenced him to capital punishment - execution.

                  and more
                  ... the phrase Khrushchev Sr. in a circle of associates before the XX Congress:
                  - Lenin, at one time, avenged the royal family for his brother, and I will avenge Stalin, even the dead, for his son.
                  General Dokuchaev, a trustworthy person, heard this threat because he was deputy head of the Main Directorate of Security of the KGB of the USSR.

                  V. Karpov "Generalissimo"
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                  2. -12
                    28 December 2013 20: 33
                    It is vile to defame an unprovenly dead pilot only because his father, N.S. Khrushchev, made a report and spoke about the repressions during the reign of I.V. Stalin.
                    They tried and are trying to discredit the intentions of N.S. Khrushchev. Allegedly, he took revenge on I.V. Stalin. N.S. Khrushchev in his report did not fully disclose the crimes committed by the highest power in the USSR against his people.
                    And lackeys in the USSR have always been under any authority in the USSR.
                    Here are the rebuttals to what you are referring to.
                    “The opinion that, supposedly, many pages from the personal file of L. N. Khrushchev were replaced in the post-war period, is a mistake. In the file of genuine documents, there is only a track record. The rest of the documents are copies of genuine documents that are stored here in the TsAMO of the Russian Federation, as well as in the archive of the personnel management of the Air Force of the Russian Federation. Each of them has a link to where it came from. In all likelihood, they were collected in a personal file either at the request of N. S. Khrushchev, or at someone's initiative, but nevertheless there is no doubt that these documents are reliable. ”Http://svpressa.ru/ society / article / 39980 /
                    “... in December of the 1942 of the year he was sent with an untreated leg to the 18-th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment. For three incomplete months, the senior lieutenant managed to make 28 training and 6 sorties, participated in two air battles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%F0%F3%F9%B8%E2,_%CB%E5%EE%ED%E8%E4_%CD%E8%EA%E8
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                    1. +8
                      28 December 2013 22: 51
                      Quote: Vadim2013
                      It is vile to defame an unprovenly dead pilot only because his father, N.S. Khrushchev, made a report and spoke about the repressions during the reign of I.V. Stalin.

                      You easily throw accusations. How is your evidence base better than mine? Karpov was also repressed at the time. And his first works were written without much reverence for Stalin, but it was the work with archives that made him reconsider his attitude to Joseph Vissarionovich, and to Nikita Sergeyevich. And Karpov had access to serious archives. You did not convince me, but I leave your reasoning about meanness on your conscience. hi
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                      2. -5
                        29 December 2013 01: 34
                        You know the presumption is not guilty. Read at least http://svpressa.ru/society/article/39980/
                        "Truth and fiction about the death of Leonid Khrushchev"
                      3. +8
                        29 December 2013 10: 00
                        I know about the presumption of innocence, but I'm used to trusting a man who broke the war with his own hands, and not the scribblers from the "free press" and, even more so, from Wikipedia.
                      4. avt
                        +9
                        29 December 2013 10: 47
                        Quote: colonel
                        Karpov was also repressed at the time.

                        Real uncle! From the ZK to the penalty area, then front-line intelligence and further along the GRU line. I couldn’t talk, but I saw live in one small speech with twice Hero of the USSR Popkov. Specific grandfathers were good hi
          3. +11
            28 December 2013 17: 24
            Not this way. Just Khrushchev - scum, opportunist, chameleon and.
            1. +5
              29 December 2013 10: 55
              Come on ... You can’t say better than Martirosyan: “an unbroken Trotskyist”! hi
            2. +2
              30 December 2013 15: 22
              Kharkov strategist, only dead generals-22, one with his son, Operation Blau and Stalingrad by and large
          4. +1
            28 December 2013 17: 24
            Not this way. Just Khrushchev - scum, opportunist, chameleon and.
          5. +1
            3 January 2014 17: 37
            I agree, most likely he planted Vasya for his son, but the fact that he poured mud is most likely so that he would not be constantly poked with the phrase "but under Stalin it was better ...", it is always difficult to be a dwarf next to giants.
      2. +13
        28 December 2013 17: 19
        "Calm down!" - so it was in tlg.
        And the Cathedral of Christ the Savior was demolished on the initiative of the Khrushchev, who led the Moscow Party organization.
        But he also managed to redirect this sin to L.M. Kaganovich.

        Under STALIN, colonies, warehouses, factories, gyms were organized in temples, BUT DON'T demolish a single temple.

        As in Kiev in 1961, the just-repaired Trinity Church (the first thoroughly repaired during the Soviet era) was demolished - this was seen by the Khrushchev and ordered to be demolished immediately. My school was nearby. And he saw the Khrushchev and its swearing and demolition. After 12 hours, there was an asphalted area at this place, another week later a beer hall. Between four schools
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        2. -7
          28 December 2013 20: 45
          On July 13 on 1931, a meeting of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR was held under the chairmanship of M. I. Kalinin. At this meeting, the decision was made: “The place for the construction of the Palace of Soviets to choose the area of ​​the Cathedral of Christ in the mountains. Moscow with the demolition of the temple itself and with the necessary expansion of the area. " This decision was previously prepared at a meeting of the Politburo of the CPSU (B.) On June 5 of 1931 on the reconstruction project of Moscow.
          Hurry work on dismantling the building continued for several months, but it was not possible to dismantle it to the ground, and then it was decided to blow it up. On December 5 of 1931, two explosions were carried out - after the first explosion, the temple survived. According to the recollections of shocked witnesses, the powerful explosions shook not only the nearby buildings, but were felt at a distance of several blocks. It took almost a year and a half to disassemble the debris of the temple remaining after the explosion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%F0%E0%EC_%D5%F0%E8%F1%F2%E0_%D1%EF%E0%F1%E8%F2
          E5%EB%FF#.D0.A0.D0.B0.D0.B7.D1.80.D1.83.D1.88.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5
          Without the approval of JV Stalin this could not have happened.
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    2. +25
      28 December 2013 10: 27
      Beria made a bomb for the USSR, and his executioner Khrushchev scared the whole world from the rostrum with this bomb. The Irony of Fate.
    3. avt
      +14
      28 December 2013 11: 18
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Few people know that Khrushchev personally signed the shooting lists and sent for approval to the POLITBUREAU.
      Of the young, probably almost none. Well, the archives were cleaned by Nykyt quite specifically. Here, according to his son, when SMERSH and the NKVD interrogated everyone who was captured during the same period, all the lists from whom they interviewed from the Podolsk archive were removed. Well, according to the article, I will say this - according to the tsar and the boyars. These were the times of really great people and they did great things with all the black and bright sides, and to perceive them, you need to study their affairs with a sober head, carefully comparing actions with the ideology that they preached and believed, accompanying it with time and circumstances, so that do not repeat mistakes and prevent possible crimes, and do not avenge the dead for relatives, and sometimes survivors, like Svanidze, but not allowed back to power.
    4. Angry reader
      +1
      28 December 2013 17: 51
      demanded to increase quotas
    5. +8
      28 December 2013 20: 18
      Why is it that few people know? Everyone, I emphasize ALL who were truly interested in the history of that period, are well aware of this. There are a lot of sources of information. And first of all, an understanding of what the so-called " "three", but at all for one, taken separately by the Chekist. For example, the district troika consisted of the secretary of the district committee, the district nkvdshnik and the district prosecutor. Moreover, from the so-called. It is known from the Smolensk archive that the initiators of executions (repressions in the "first" category) and "counter" plans in this regard were mainly party leaders who, under the guise of a revolutionary class struggle, destroyed their rivals in this way. So even if Nikita wanted to be white and fluffy, no one would allow him. He would be immediately accused of complicity with the counter-revolution and he himself would have turned into camp dust. And another well-known fact. When Nikita came to power, the first thing he did was to destroy all traces and all of his signatures on execution lists in the archives. And above all in the archives of Ukraine, where the blame for the bulk of the blood lies with him. And lastly, after his resignation, in his closed interviews, he himself admitted that his hands were covered in blood. And in this sense, he is a much greater criminal than Beria. He's just an angel with wings compared to Nikita.
      1. -1
        29 December 2013 22: 27
        I also heard that Nikita Sergeyevich cleaned up the archives, but it takes something doubtful about the physical capabilities of one person, and the involvement of even proxies should have led to a large appearance of witnesses of such acts, and the case from my archive can not disappear without a trace, any then links, account numbers, acts of checks, etc. traces should remain.
        1. 0
          30 December 2013 15: 25
          They remained, you see how everyone operates with facts. No wonder, but about madam is true?
      2. Angry reader
        0
        30 December 2013 01: 38
        people do not really want to delve into their history, unfortunately.
      3. rate
        +2
        2 January 2014 17: 59
        With Khrushchev’s lies, the late USSR version of Brezhnev was not viable. He disappeared. The rehabilitated Trotskyists and pests from the Gulag quickly got to work. The lie about the unpreparedness of the war in 41 after all was intensely supported further, after the removal of Khrushchev. So the plot continued to operate. Well, he worked against all of us.
        Sabotage, sabotage, deficit were all aimed at the destruction of the country. Indeed, under Stalin everything was.
    6. i.xxx-1971
      0
      29 December 2013 02: 27
      And Stalin I.V. they were publicly cheated.
    7. i.xxx-1971
      0
      29 December 2013 02: 27
      And Stalin I.V. they were publicly cheated.
  2. +10
    28 December 2013 08: 31
    The article, though short, is closer to the truth. It shows the personality of Beria, as well as the "kitchen" of the struggle for power at the very top (the "kitchen" has changed little these days).
    Article +.
  3. +9
    28 December 2013 08: 34
    An interesting look, but, unfortunately, not a single fact. Although, undoubtedly, Beria's personality is very ambiguous. I do not think that a "mental average" and just an executioner could achieve such a position in the government and in the country as a whole.
    1. +16
      28 December 2013 11: 09
      Dear Dmitry!
      Read "Beria is the last knight of Stalin", "My father Lavrenty Beria".

      Naturally, there are embellishments, but also many positive facts. Beria is an extremely interesting person! At the university, doctor / professor Zolotavin, who had been working on the bomb since the 40's, went aside when asked about the problems of the studios. Although he was quite democratic, for example, he could recommend not drinking cheap wine - it is harmful to the stomach, preferably vodka. I also encountered workers in closed territorial entities. As they said, their older comrades, who spoke with Beria, did not scold him. And, based on the official version of Beria, they should have blamed!

      Yet. In the late 80s, I read about Beria, how he personally tortured to death in the 37th (!) Lubyanka (!) "Fiery revolutionary". These were the memories of the wife of this "revolutionary". Before that, about Beria, he only knew that he was not good. But then I was stunned! Who let him go from Georgia to the Lubyanka? How did the wife of the "revolutionary" find out? And, you know, she began to doubt. Thanks to Soviet education in simple and higher schools, to teachers in production, where many were taught to critically approach the material, to think.
      1. +6
        28 December 2013 11: 16
        also A. Bushkov-Stalin. Throne of Ice highly recommend.
        1. +2
          29 December 2013 13: 39
          Quote: Panikovsky
          also A. Bushkov-Stalin. Throne of Ice highly recommend.

          Recommend already the second book about IVS. And he also wrote about Beria.
  4. +2
    28 December 2013 09: 00
    Technocrat, yeah, the real technocrat was Ordzhonikidzhe - the People’s Commissar of Trukhmash, like many who stopped his life before the Second World War, of course a coincidence
  5. +10
    28 December 2013 09: 02
    From childhood I remember the rhyme:
    Today is a holiday for the guys
    Jubilant Pioneer
    Today will come to visit us
    Lavrenty Palych Beria!
    1. +10
      28 December 2013 11: 07
      And then the ditties sang a little different ...

      And Lavrush Beria
      Out of confidence !!
      And comrade Malenkov
      He kicked him !!!

      Joseph Vissarionovich died, and left the spiders in the bank. I think Lavrenty Pavlovich would do the same if Khrushchev did not beat him.
      Another thing is that it is really high time to pay tribute to the merits of this man.
    2. 0
      29 December 2013 07: 40
      And only then, after his execution they sang like this:

      Flowering cherry plum in Tbilisi,
      Not for Lavrentiy Palych!
      And for Clement Efremich,
      And for Semyon Mikhalych!
  6. makarov
    -1
    28 December 2013 09: 05
    "starting in 1947 the death penalty was abolished, and even the murderers of law enforcement officers were not shot, but sentenced to 25 years in prison .."

    I confirm, everything was "honestly", my grandmother in 52 was slapped with 25 liters. on 58 approx., thank God in 53rd amnesty, and only in 60th was acquitted and rehabilitated.

    in 1982, he crossed paths with one old NKVDeshnik, he told me sincerely that when he found out about the arrest and execution of Beria, he was ready to chop off his hand, because he had a handle with it ..

    In the early 2000s, O. Musofirova, the correspondent of the Komsomol member, came to me for an interview, and before that she interviewed Beria’s son .. she told a lot of interesting things.
    1. +6
      28 December 2013 13: 30
      Quote: makarov
      In the early 2000s, O. Musofirova, the correspondent of the Komsomol member, came to me for an interview, and before that she interviewed Beria’s son .. she told a lot of interesting things.

      Share the most interesting?
  7. +10
    28 December 2013 09: 05
    As the history shows, the Stalin Beria tandem is much more effective than the Putin Medvedev tandem. "A herd of rams headed by a lion will always triumph over a herd of lions, headed by a ram" Napoleon is about Khrushchev. GDP on many questions in the country asking where is the landing?
    1. +10
      28 December 2013 11: 15
      Quote: os9165
      tandem Stalin Beria


      There was no such tandem !!!!
      It was Stalin. And there was a state machine created by him and the Party.
      1. avt
        +8
        28 December 2013 11: 59
        Quote: Chen
        There was no such tandem !!!!
        It was Stalin. And there was a state machine created by him and the Party.
        I agree. good
        According to the recollections of Sergeev, Stalin's adopted son, they argued in the game with Vasily who was in charge. Stalin was present, he, again according to Sergeev, very clearly and intelligibly explained everything to the children, and that time he briefly and clearly said that the main there should be one. Yes, there was an "inner circle" and decisions were made collegially, even during the war, members of the State Defense Committee made operational decisions in their directions without coordinating with Stalin - each had a facsimile of Stalin. But the Leader, who is also the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, was alone. No wonder there is such a legend , that somehow, in hot temper scolding Vasily, he said - "Do you think you are Stalin? Do you think I am Stalin? He is Stalin!" and pointed to the portrait. I think it's really a legend, but very accurately reflects that era
      2. +3
        28 December 2013 13: 32
        Quote: Chen
        There was no such tandem !!!!
        It was Stalin. And there was a state machine created by him and the Party.

        Fundamentally disagree.
        The king makes the retinue.
        But the merits of Stalin are not disputed.
        1. wax
          +8
          28 December 2013 21: 25
          The king makes the retinue.

          And the king picks up the retinue.
    2. -5
      28 December 2013 13: 31
      Quote: os9165
      GDP on many issues in the country is asked where is the landing?

      Are you not afraid of thundering for the "spikelet" yourself?
      Ile is sinless, like a baby?
      1. +3
        29 December 2013 18: 46
        Quote: ATATA
        Are you not afraid of thundering for the "spikelet" yourself?

        With a sane judicial system, no. And it’s still insane. You can plant anyone, at least by slipping 2 grams of heroin
  8. -20
    28 December 2013 09: 18
    But at the same time, everyone ignores Beria's "love" for the female sex. And in spite of the lack of reciprocity. In short, even Stalin's son called him a "rapist"
    1. +21
      28 December 2013 09: 40
      Quote: Trapper7
      But at the same time, everyone ignores Beria's "love" for the female sex.
      The tale about cars that drove him special girls caught drove everyone heard. Bullshit, just to whistle and so we would break
      The same enemy as a spy. He knew a lot about the remaining clowns, that’s the reason for the execution.
    2. +4
      28 December 2013 11: 10
      Quote: Trapper7
      But at the same time, everyone ignores Beria's "love" for the female sex. And in spite of the lack of reciprocity. In short, even Stalin's son called him a "rapist"



      What are you really !!!! And here it is !! And is it true? Vasily hated him fiercely, this time, but he himself was a monk ???
      1. -9
        28 December 2013 14: 07
        I don’t want to argue with anyone. But I was told about this by a man who had served in the Kremlin guard for many years during Stalin's time. For some reason I trust him. And then, what difference does it make who Vasily was? A monk or a drunkard. What does this have to do with it? Perhaps Beria was a good person in some way, but even if the rumors about him are at least partially true, then was it not just retaliation that overtook him? What difference does it make who you are if you are a rapist? The president or the bum, for a woman this fact is of secondary importance. And for her loved ones too. I can relate normally to Stalin, realizing that all his actions, etc. "cleaning" is a necessity, and those innocent who fall under the ax are the result of mistakes, but not malicious intent. But with LPBeria, such an excuse does not work. I can't relate to him normally and that's it.
        1. 0
          28 December 2013 15: 04
          Quote: Trapper7
          with LPBeria such an excuse does not pass. I can’t relate to him normally and that's all.

          Similarly !!!
        2. avt
          +14
          28 December 2013 16: 37
          Quote: Trapper7
          But I was told about this by a man who had served in the Kremlin guard for many years during Stalin. For some reason I trust him.

          It looks like you're pretty lucky. I was familiar with the son of such a veteran, who also worked in the Nine under Lena and was already a veteran himself, and so to my questions about those times, "distant, now almost epic", he answered me that even his dad didn't tell him anything, and he himself only talked about his service with light curious cases that had nothing to do with the special details of the service, not to mention the juicy details of the personal life of the protected person. Such was the upbringing then. They took the slogan - "Chatterbox is a godsend for a spy" literally according to the text, without deviations.
        3. +6
          29 December 2013 04: 19
          Quote: Trapper7
          President or homeless, for a woman this fact is of secondary importance.

          Quote: Trapper7
          But I was told about this by a man who had served in the Kremlin guard for many years during Stalin. For some reason I trust him.

          Are you sure that it was not he who dragged the girls into the guardhouse for a can of stew? and when Beria was shot, what would he not get under the press gave this version?
      2. +2
        28 December 2013 23: 55
        Quote: Chen
        What are you really !!!! And here it is !! And is it true? Vasily hated him fiercely, this time, but he himself was a monk ???
        What are you doing with Vasily? Although he was a general of the Air Force, he did not participate in these five hundred quarrels. There, the six shared the inheritance
  9. +8
    28 December 2013 09: 25
    This is an alloy of intelligence, science, technology, organization.

    Here's what you need now.
    The Chinese have perfectly implemented this mechanism - intelligence constantly delivers the latest achievements to scientists, scientists successfully research, master and recreate those tasks for engineers, engineers start and organize production with the assistance of state curators represented by special services and the military. Special services and the military provide everything necessary - raw materials and skilled labor.
    1. +2
      29 December 2013 13: 44
      Quote: Lindon
      This is an alloy of intelligence, science, technology, organization.

      Here's what you need now.
      The Chinese have perfectly implemented this mechanism - intelligence constantly delivers the latest achievements to scientists, scientists successfully research, master and recreate those tasks for engineers, engineers start and organize production with the assistance of state curators represented by special services and the military. Special services and the military provide everything necessary - raw materials and skilled labor.

      All this was already with IVS
  10. +7
    28 December 2013 10: 16
    A very good book with facts and comments: Elena Prudnikova ,, Crimes of which there weren’t. There is no open sale, on the Internet you can download!
  11. +5
    28 December 2013 10: 19
    An excerpt from the speech of V.M.Zaznobin about the murder of L.P. Beria and his archive.


    More:
    http://media-mera.ru/kob/zaznobin/2013-11-27-o-sakralnosti-vlasti-i-itogakh-poez
    dki-v-kitai
  12. +11
    28 December 2013 10: 41
    L. Beria was responsible to Stalin for the implementation of the atomic project with his own head and the project was implemented. The fact that during the war coordinated industry for all types of weapons is also a fact, it is enough to read memoirs and look at archives. The son of L. Beria was an outstanding military designer and scientist.
    1. +2
      28 December 2013 11: 14
      correctly wrote +
  13. malikszh
    +11
    28 December 2013 10: 49
    Whatever they say, Stalin and Beria worked in the name of Russia. Raising the authority of the USSR in front of the whole world. at the expense of repression, who knows how it was, but he spent the first amnesties.
  14. jjj
    +4
    28 December 2013 11: 06
    In terms of secrecy, design sharashka were more effective than similar projects in the West
  15. +2
    28 December 2013 11: 06
    Quote: makarov
    "starting in 1947 the death penalty was abolished, and even the murderers of law enforcement officers were not shot, but sentenced to 25 years in prison .."

    I confirm, everything was "honestly", my grandmother in 52 was slapped with 25 liters. on 58 approx., thank God in 53rd amnesty, and only in 60th was acquitted and rehabilitated.

    in 1982, he crossed paths with one old NKVDeshnik, he told me sincerely that when he found out about the arrest and execution of Beria, he was ready to chop off his hand, because he had a handle with it ..

    In the early 2000s, O. Musofirova, the correspondent of the Komsomol member, came to me for an interview, and before that she interviewed Beria’s son .. she told a lot of interesting things.


    And what conclusion can you draw from what you wrote ?! A post about nothing! ..
    1. makarov
      +1
      28 December 2013 14: 00
      For you, nothing, and my grandfather after the Victory was brought by a disabled person of group 1, and my grandmother had 5 children whom she dragged on throughout the war, and 5 children were left to raise and support a disabled person .... I don’t want to write further, so as not to be rude "knowledgeable networker" ...
  16. +9
    28 December 2013 11: 32
    It is believed that Lavrenty Pavlovich was either immediately killed or killed several days later in an air defense bunker near Moscow.

    His creatures were afraid. Precisely creatures! Especially the cowardly and vile Trotskyist Khrushchev.

    Life has put everything in its place.

    I will give an example. Who ditched our agriculture? Nikita is a maize. But not corn. My parents told me that it was under Khrushchev that they introduced idiotic taxes on domestic animals - on goats, on hens, on rabbits ...

    What is agriculture here when they ruined in the bud any motivation for a person who wanted to grow something for himself.
    1. +16
      28 December 2013 12: 07
      All right. Khrushchev first introduced launched an attack on personal households:
      from 1959 onwards, residents of cities and workers' settlements were forbidden to keep livestock, and collective farmers bought livestock from the state. Mass slaughter of cattle by collective farmers began. This policy led to a reduction in livestock and poultry, worsened the situation of the peasantry. In the Ryazan region there was a scam for overfulfillment of the plan, known as the "Ryazan miracle."

      And Gorbachev finished off the struggle with unearned income:
      The struggle with unearned income in many regions of the country resulted in a struggle with personal subsidiary plots. In some regions and districts, strict norms were set for planting early vegetables, strawberries, tomatoes, etc. Direct measures were taken with respect to violators of restrictions. Party and state bodies (police, prosecutors, local councils, district party committees), mobilizing appropriate forces and modern powerful equipment (tractors, bulldozers), destroyed greenhouses, planted early vegetables. Decisions were made to deprive people of personal plots or to cut back on the latter, etc. One of the activities of this campaign was a ban on the export of products from one region to another. As a result, products disappeared, the collective farm market turned out to be deformed, which for a long time remained practically the only institutionalized institution of free market relations in the state system.


      These Stalin and Beria would have been planted as pests long ago.
      1. 0
        29 December 2013 22: 04
        The US has experienced this (or even worse). In them to this day it is impossible to plant crops, seeds, after the germination of which, you can re-cultivate.
  17. +5
    28 December 2013 12: 49
    So, by the way:
    Beria’s son, Sergiya Lavrentievich Beria (Sergey Alekseevich Gegechkori), is a design engineer in the field of radar and missile systems.
    One of the developers of the S-25 anti-aircraft missile system, the KS-1 Kometa cruise missile.
    After the removal and arrest of his father, along with his mother, he was interned at one of the state deliveries near Moscow, then he was also arrested and until the end of 1954 he was held in solitary confinement, first in Lefortovo and then in Butyrskaya prisons.
    1. makarov
      0
      28 December 2013 13: 55
      Add to this how, in order to please him, the project of M.R.Bisnovat was the first cruise missile of the RCC, the first samples of which were shot ...
    2. +1
      28 December 2013 16: 25
      not
      One of a chief designer.
  18. Impich
    -5
    28 December 2013 13: 16
    burn in hell judah .....
    1. -2
      29 December 2013 22: 18
      An urgent team of orderlies with a straitjacket and a sedative shot and Kashchenko was right, Comrade Saakhov was right, Comrade Impicha had WHITE HOT !!! Urgent measures are needed !!!)))))))))))))))))) )))) wassat am
  19. +8
    28 December 2013 13: 40
    Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria certainly was not a traitor to the USSR. The charge of his espionage was a far-fetched, tried-and-true method that has been used since the repression of 30 and 40. He became a victim of the struggle for power after the death of I.V. Stalin. His bold ideas about the unification of Germany and others annoyed other leaders of the USSR.
  20. +14
    28 December 2013 14: 54
    For members of the forum I will give an excerpt from the diary of L.P. Beria about his attitude to the authorities and to his work:
    “I know what power is, I was a boy for a long time, but I already had power. What was power for me? A responsibility. Trust you, work. If you don't know how, learn. If you don't want to, I can't, but do it. They trusted you. Then, when you have power, it's interesting. I thought it up myself, I did it myself, you see that the person next to you is intelligent, you can pick him up, help, he will help you too. It will be easier for you. The more power, the more interesting. And if you are your own master, then work and work here. When I got Zakkraikom, how I flew. Before that, my hands were itching, there is disorder, there is a fucking thing ... you can do it there, but do not do it. And now everything depends on you! Said it is done. Not done, punished. Doesn't help, kicked out. You can do everything. As I worked in Georgia, my soul rejoiced. See the swamp, drain it. Do you want children to be healthy and literate, build a stadium, build an institute, Learn, run, rejoice. What happens? He thinks he got the power, you can eat your fill. And they begin to flirt, flunk, then skimp, then get caught on something, and most often on broads, all pi ... dec, you're on the hook. You yourself do not notice how the enemy has become. And then our ass ... chekists. You have great power, you use it for business and be careful. You don't want to. but you will make mistakes, because go figure out where the truth is. Maybe he split, or maybe just out of spite or out of despair, he is slandering someone. But no, he starts to build himself, as Koba said today, Napoleons. We are special, we will do whatever we want. They begin to think that they are the smartest, while Koba and Lavrenty do not know the situation. Evdokimov was almost like Karl Marx, but Koba is in the Kremlin and knows life only from reports. And then conversations begin, then they discuss, estimate. Then there is a conspiracy, but even here they are afraid, hesitate there, hesitate here. And I want and inject. If you don't kill Koba, it won't work. And killing Koba is no joke. And it is not known what will come out. And the authorities want it. Not what to do, but what power to have. And someone thinks that it will be better than Koba. First the Trotskyists, then the Right. We've seen such clever guys over the years, wow! Wept! We will destroy the fist, and there will be no bread, no calico, but we are building airplanes, where do we go to Europe with bare ... sing. And it went, saw! It's not enough for them. Things are up to the neck. It has long been clear that if you want to do a job, do it with Koba. If he makes a mistake, he will recover, only he rarely makes mistakes, and he has never made a mistake in the main line >>
    1. 0
      29 December 2013 13: 50
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      For members of the forum I will give an excerpt from the diary of L.P. Beria about his attitude to the authorities and to his work:

      And where did you find it?
      ALL documents were seized and destroyed.
  21. 0
    28 December 2013 16: 00
    Everything is ambiguous.
    He may of course be a poet, but as an organizer and a motivator, he has no price.
    Having received the "FAS" from the OWNER, he did everything he could and could not do to fulfill it.
    There aren’t such people now, and probably won’t be there for a long time, until life in .opu bites.
  22. +2
    28 December 2013 16: 10
    Quote: makarov
    For you, nothing, and my grandfather after the Victory was brought by a disabled person of group 1, and my grandmother had 5 children whom she dragged on throughout the war, and 5 children were left to raise and support a disabled person .... I don’t want to write further, so as not to be rude "knowledgeable networker" ...

    I do not want to offend, but still I can only guess about your opinion in the first post ... My relatives from the Civil War had a difficult fate both on the paternal and the maternal side. And what to do? .. Your grandmother, at least, remained alive ...
    But in spite of all the shocks, I never heard accusations from our relatives against our Motherland.
  23. +9
    28 December 2013 17: 06
    1. Comrade STALIN was right: after the victory of the proletarian revolution, the class struggle does not wane, but intensifies.
    2. You must never lose vigilance!
    The worst mistake is underestimating the enemy.
    3. Khrushchev blamed his crimes and sins on Lavrenty Pavlovich, because it was he who, with the initiative, was the bloodiest executioner.

    At the end of 80 = x, I had the opportunity to communicate with Sergo Beria and participate in the return of a good name to him and L.P. Beria.
    Communicated with people, leading cadres, who under his leadership built Krasnoyars-26 and Plesetsk. The best reviews!
    Comrade Stalin knew how to select people, L.P. Beria is a worthy example.
    1. makarov
      +1
      28 December 2013 17: 51
      In the 80s, I had the chance to meet with the chief engineer of the city food department, for some reason he always avoided people, didn’t participate in companies, was a teetotaler, and then he suddenly gave up and gave up alone, according to Bukhara, and told how he was a member of the CCA, and how much was behind him innocently ruined souls, absolutely innocent people. And he knew back then that they were innocent, and raised his hand for VMN. He sniffed that the murdered people were still dreaming, the sentence was carried out there in the same place, below, in the basement. And when I asked him, since I knew that innocent people raised a hand to hell, he said that he was a scumbag because he was afraid that he would not regard it as a class weakness for enemies and would not put him to the wall. I have no doubt that this happened all over the country. And how did the prison plan for the development of the North, Belomorkanal, Dnieper ?? What did dear readers forget ???
      1. +3
        29 December 2013 13: 53
        Quote: makarov
        and he’s a bastard responding, they say because he was afraid that they would not regard it as a class weakness for enemies, and they didn’t put him to the wall

        That's because of such problems.
        Who are the judges now afraid of?
        Man must be, not a resident
      2. 0
        29 December 2013 19: 38
        Quote: makarov
        In the 80s, I had the chance to meet with the chief engineer of the city food department, for some reason he always avoided people, didn’t participate in companies, was a teetotaler, and then he suddenly gave up and gave up alone, according to Bukhara, and told how he was a member of the CCA, and how much was behind him innocently ruined souls, absolutely innocent people. And he knew back then that they were innocent, and raised his hand for VMN.

        Dear colleague Pavel, according to the reports that you are posting, I conclude that the topic of the Special Meeting at the NKVD is for you dark forest.
        As an educational program, I propose to read (http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Resolution_CIC_SSSR,_CH
      3. +1
        29 December 2013 19: 42
        Quote: makarov
        In the 80s, I had the chance to meet with the chief engineer of the city food department, for some reason he always avoided people, didn’t participate in companies, was a teetotaler, and then he suddenly gave up and gave up alone, according to Bukhara, and told how he was a member of the CCA, and how much was behind him innocently ruined souls, absolutely innocent people. And he knew back then that they were innocent, and raised his hand for VMN.

        As an educational program, I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the resolution on the formation of a Special Meeting at the NKVD of the USSR (link to source - http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Resolution_CIC_SSSR,_SNK
        _SSSR_from 05.11.1934/22/XNUMX_№_XNUMX)

        Central Executive Committee of the USSR
        Council of People's Commissars of the USSR
        Decree
        November 5 1934 Year No. 22
        About the Special Meeting at the NKVD of the USSR
        In development of Art. 8 Decisions of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR on July 10, 1934 "On the formation of the All-Union People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs" The Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR determine:
        1. Provide the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs of the USSR with the right to apply to persons recognized as socially dangerous:
        a) a reference to a period of up to 5 years under public supervision in the locality, a list of which is established by the People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs of the USSR;
        b) expulsion for a period of up to 5 years under public supervision with the prohibition of residence in the capitals, major cities and industrial centers of the USSR;
        c) imprisonment in forced labor camps for up to 5 years;
        d) the expulsion of foreign nationals that are socially dangerous from the borders of the USSR.
        2. For the application of the measures referred to in Art. 1, under the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR, under his chairmanship, a Special Meeting is established consisting of:
        a) Deputies of the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR;
        b) the Authorized People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs of the USSR for the RSFSR;
        c) Head of the Main Directorate of the Workers 'and Peasants' Police;
        d) People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the Union Republic in whose territory the case arose.
        3. The sessions of the Special Meeting shall be attended by the Prosecutor of the USSR or his deputy, who in case of disagreement both with the decision of the Special Meeting and with the referral of the case to the Special Meeting, has the right to protest to the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR.
        In these cases, the execution of the decision of the Special Meeting is suspended until the decision of the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR on this matter.
        4. The decision of the Special Meeting on the exile and imprisonment in the forced labor camp of each individual shall indicate the basis for the application of these measures, as well as the area and the period of exile or imprisonment in the camp.
        5. The Special Meeting shall be entitled:
        a) depending on the behavior of those exiled or imprisoned in forced labor camps, on the basis of feedback from the relevant bodies of the People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs of the USSR, reduce the length of their stay in exile or in a forced labor camp;
        b) to exempt from further stay in special labor settlements. Chairman of the CEC of the USSR
        M. KALININ
        Deputy Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR
        Y. RUDZUTAK
        Secretary of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR
        A. ENUKIDZE
        1. 0
          29 December 2013 19: 50
          Addition to the previous post:
          Later, this resolution was amended (link to source - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%F1%EE%E1%EE%E5_%F1%EE%E2%E5%F9%E0%ED% E8% E5_% EF
          %F0%E8_%CD%CA%C2%C4_%D1%D1%D1%D0):
          The “Special Meeting at the NKVD of the USSR” was created by a resolution of the CEC and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of November 5, 1934 after the abolition of the Judicial Collegium of the OGPU and existed until September 1, 1953. For 1936, a special meeting examined the affairs of 21222 people.
          During the Great Terror, CCA played a supporting role. The maximum sentence to which the accused CCA could sentence was 8 years. Sentence for long terms of imprisonment and execution of the CCA in this period did not have the right.
          By a resolution of the Council of People's Commissars and the CPSU (b) of November 17, 1938, only cases that could not be considered publicly for operational reasons were allowed to be transferred to the Special Meeting.
          At the end of 1940, the CCA received the right to apply another measure of punishment - the confiscation of illegally acquired property and property used for criminal purposes.
          In November 1941, the CCA, in connection with wartime, was given the power to examine cases of “especially dangerous crimes against order” with sentences up to the death penalty. The CCA exercised the death penalty only during the war. During this time, according to the sentences of the CCA, 10101 people were shot according to official figures.
          After the war ended, the maximum sentence by decision of the CCA was 25 years in prison. In the 2nd half of the 1940s, the NKVD CCA (since 1946 - the MGB CCA) was an auxiliary but important means of filing cases against participants in the nationalist movement against Soviet troops in the Baltic republics and in part of Poland liberated by the USSR. In the CCA were cases that were not accepted for production by the courts and military tribunals, even the tribunals of the NKVD troops. This practice developed during the war, on the affairs of traitors to the motherland and accomplices of the Nazis.
          On July 15, 1951, S. Ignatiev submitted to Stalin proposals for the reorganization of the Special Meeting, but this proposal did not have any development.
          By a decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces of September 1, 1953, the Special Meeting was abolished. ”
      4. luka095
        0
        29 December 2013 23: 59
        I have no doubt that this happened all over the country. And how did the prison plan for the development of the North, Belomorkanal, Dnieper ?? What did dear readers forget ???
        But in vain. Still, one should not take everything on faith. You make a global conclusion based on ONE evidence. Maybe you want to think so?
        I do not remember how the plan for the prisoners was carried out. Maybe tell. Without emotion, with facts.
      5. VeryHardClown
        0
        3 January 2014 00: 05
        and how and how did you implement the plan at the White Sea Canal? there is information that the convicts had the right to free movement in places of construction work, could own hunting firearms. after the construction was completed, almost all were amnestied.
    2. +2
      29 December 2013 07: 53
      Not Plesetsk was built. Plesetsk is just a district center in the Arkhangelsk region, and the center of the cosmodrome is the closed city of Mirny-12, located 5 km from Plesetsk. And even at the time of construction, it was generally called the Angara facility and had the mailing address of Leningrad-400.
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  25. +4
    28 December 2013 17: 10
    General Batitsky, who shot L.P. Beria for this crime, was made by the Marshal of the Soviet Union and the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces of the country. The thing is for the cavalryman!

    However, he was not the worst commander in chief of the Air Defense Forces of the country.
  26. +1
    28 December 2013 17: 20
    And how do you like the version of Khrushchev-Perlmutter? From the Spanish magazine "those" years of nonsense? -Maybe so ... But the fact that Khrushchev begged Comrade Stalin to release his son from the fascist dungeons (the pilot who shot the Soviet officer )-I believe!
    1. +1
      28 December 2013 17: 50
      Believe me, I am not saying this against any nation. Just if you start to understand and compare his AUTOBIOGRAPHY and REAL biography, there are a lot of dark spots. + The fact that he was and remained a "Trotskyist" (deeply conscientious)
  27. +9
    28 December 2013 18: 15
    It’s high time to dispel the hunchbacks of Hunchback about Stalin and Beria, and bring him to justice for treason against the Homeland under the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (there’s just the right sanction).
  28. 0
    28 December 2013 18: 19
    It’s high time to dispel the hunchbacks of Hunchback about Stalin and Beria, and bring him to justice for treason against the Homeland under the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (there’s just the right sanction).
  29. +6
    28 December 2013 21: 11
    What is a Soviet atomic bomb? This is an alloy of intelligence, science, technology, organization. And it was Beria who organized this rafting, which ultimately allowed our country to break out into world leaders for many years. If the United States had a monopoly on nuclear weapons, the world in general and our country in particular would look radically different than now.
  30. +2
    28 December 2013 22: 47
    All these bumbling around Beria seem worthless, he himself would have laughed at what is being said about him. In my opinion, he was the organizer, as they say now, a talented manager. In what conditions I fell, in such and worked. If we take the current tough managers, they would have behaved exactly like that in those conditions, and there are certainly those who can now be compared with Beria in terms of rigidity, exactingness, cruelty. Unless they now have no executions, at least massive ones.
    Talented managers are always and everywhere lacking and they are allowed a lot for this, depending on the country and time.
    Who rules Russia? Shuvalov, probably. As usual - he has a boss, and he has a deputy who does everything. However, you know better.
  31. Druid
    +4
    28 December 2013 22: 56
    Eh, now Beria instead of Rogozin, etc., then I would look at the initiators of the defense order disruption, the participants in the budget cuts, and the shout-armed who have missiles that have completed dozens of successful launches.
    Beria created a negative image from the time of Khrushchev, for decades we have been told that this is a killer, a drunkard and a lascivious pig - as for me it is such a talented manager and organizer. Obviously, he is not an angel, but if you compare him with the same Khrushchev and many others, then next to them is fluffy and affectionate, and there was no sense in the country from him ...
    1. 0
      29 December 2013 22: 41
      You here proceed from the fact that Putin will be above Beria instead of Stalin, and that Beria will not receive his post in the struggle, but simply for being close to his body. In such conditions, Rogozin is probably doing quite a lot.
  32. 0
    29 December 2013 00: 50
    My uncle worked as a foreman at a defense factory on Preobrazhenskaya Square in Moscow. In 1953, I heard a ditty from him:
    "The enemy of the people Beria came out of trust,
    and comrade Malenkov kicked him.
    I didn’t want to sit in the Kremlin,
    you'll sit in jail now. "
    1. +1
      29 December 2013 19: 54
      Apparently in 1953 after the death of I.V. Stalin, Georgy Maximilianovich Malenkov had all power over the actual leader of the Soviet state in March-September of 1953.
  33. +2
    29 December 2013 13: 50
    Maybe we will someday find out. But each politician in those days had his own truth, and if not you today, you tomorrow. History does not have only black or white ...
  34. 0
    29 December 2013 14: 02
    Lavrenty Pavlovich also had enough kookies.
    Only for the "closure" of the "Migrel" case can he be shot. And if you remember about his desire to create "national" republics.
  35. +7
    29 December 2013 17: 11
    Oh, it’s not in vain that my grandfather in the early 80s was blaming Khrushchev on what the world stands.
  36. +1
    29 December 2013 19: 39
    The flower of the fragrant prairie Lavrentiy Pavlych Beria!
  37. freedom2013
    +7
    29 December 2013 20: 07
    Beria is definitely a person about whom one can argue in two ways. But I would like to remind you that it was he who carried out the mass amnesty in the late 30s, and those who saw their work in the landings, on the contrary, sent them to the Urals. And about Khrushchev surely everyone knows about the hunger riot of workers in Novocherkassk, this is the true assessment of his "wise" leadership.
  38. luka095
    +3
    30 December 2013 00: 03
    Article "plus". The name reflects the essence of the matter.
  39. 0
    30 December 2013 00: 05
    And we are Chekists, we are going confidently, the marshal is leading us - LAWRENCE BERIA
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    2. win
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      6 November 2015 09: 49
      Marshal - LAURENCE OF BERIA


      By the way, Beria was twice Marshal
  40. usaratov
    0
    30 December 2013 08: 22
    Sorry, but the article is to say the least about anything. And about the head of state during the war it is generally not clear.
  41. +5
    30 December 2013 11: 00
    Would Beria be an angel? no. Was it a monster? Based on the fact that he dug up - also not.
    The rest is within his position and talent.
    One thing I can say for sure - he was not a worthless dummy endowed with power, like Khrushchev.
  42. +3
    30 December 2013 20: 10
    He who is without sin, let him cast a stone.
  43. 0
    4 January 2014 01: 28
    Palych is a controversial figure, but that's not the point. Nikita, eliminating a competitor, hung all the dogs on him. And the reason is that Stalin considered Beria to be the "heir" and wanted to push the entire party away from the country's leadership. But the nomenklatura had already formed into a caste ... First, the entire inner circle of Stalin was “cleaned out”, and then the leader was not provided with timely medical assistance ... As soon as it became clear that Beria would follow the Stalinist path, they came for him.
    In addition, Nikita’s personal revenge for the unlucky son, whom Stalin refused to help out.
  44. +1
    8 January 2014 21: 32
    History pays tribute to the patriot of his country, L.P. Beria.
  45. Mushroom
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    9 January 2014 20: 04
    The cowardly mediocre Judas, the six under Stalin, who gave everything that he took on, Khrushchev saved his railroad after the death of Stalin ...

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