Caucasian rally in Moscow, the offensive of Wahhabism in Tatarstan and the need to revive the "Russian project"

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Caucasian rally in Moscow, the offensive of Wahhabism in Tatarstan and the need to revive the "Russian project"

Subject Caucasian rally in Moscow received a continuation. January 26 is planned to hold a rally against xenophobia and Islamophobia at Manezhnaya Square. According to the organizers, up to a million people will attend the demonstration.

“On the eleventh of January, we will submit an application and will request 26 in January. The venue will be Manege Square. A lot of organizations from Central Asia, Volga and Transcaucasia joined in, ” сообщил RSN is one of the organizers of the protest, representative of the Russian Congress of the Peoples of the Caucasus Abakar Abakarov. Which organizations will take part in the rally, Abakarov did not specify. The press release of the event sent to 20 in December included four participants: A. Abakarov from the Russian Congress of the Peoples of the Caucasus, Muhammad Magomedov (Dagestan movement Union of the Just), Izzat Aman (Union of Tajik Youth in Russia) and Nail Nabiullin (Azatlyk) .

It is already known that Tatar nationalists ready to support the action in Moscow. The Union of Tatar youth “Azatlyk” (“Freedom”) was noted for having organized a series of actions “in defense of the constitutional rights of Muslims” in Kazan. In particular, in 2012, two rallies were held in defense of Muslims; among the protesters were members of the Al-Ikhlas mosque. This community was eliminated by a court decision because of accusations of extremism. The community was associated with the Hizb ut-Tahrir international Islamist organization. True, only a few dozen people participated in the events. But the first step is the hardest. The main thing is to start, it will be easier to continue ...

Obviously, the liberals and left-wing radicals will support the beginning. In 2012, the coordinator of the “Left Front” and one of the organizers of the “swamp movement” in Moscow Sergey Udaltsov and the leader of the Tatar nationalist movement “Azatlyk” Nail Nabiullin exchanged statements in support of each other. Udaltsov saw “sound grain” in Tatar national separatism, and Nabiullin, in turn, declared support for “bogs”, since the “belolentochnikov” movement was directed “for the benefit of the Tatar people”.

Now Tatar national separatists are ready to expand the geography of actions and take part in a mass protest in Moscow. Kazan nationalists published a call for the mobilization of supporters from other regions in which large Tatar communities live. Thus, activists from Bashkiria, Chuvashia and the Ulyanovsk region have already participated in actions in Kazan. Nabiullin said that the rally in Moscow would provide an opportunity to involve representatives of the Tatar community in the capital in protest activities. In addition, in his opinion, “Freedom” already has a certain authority among representatives of other Turkic Muslim peoples - Azerbaijanis, Kazakhs. Earlier, Svoboda organized street actions on the day of the Kazakh Famine, on the day of the Armenian Genocide of Azerbaijanis, etc. In the summer, Nabiullin made a working trip to Baku and recently returned from a trip to Turkey. Therefore, according to him, “Azatlyk” can count on holding an “All-Russian rally against Islamophobia” to support representatives of other Muslim and Turkic peoples.

The leader of the movement "Russian" Dmitry Demushkin считаетthat, at best, a few dozen people will attend the rally or it will not take place at all. So, the Federation of Migrants of Russia has already promised to organize its protest action on the day of the “Russian March” 4 in November, but it did not fulfill its promise. Even if representatives of the Caucasian and Muslim movements can organize a rally in the center of Moscow, this will only reinforce the negative attitude of the residents of the capital towards migrants and the strengthening of Islam in Russia. In addition, according to Demushkin, the idea of ​​holding a rally against Islamophobia looks like blackmailing the authorities and society. Its organizers want to show their strength. Therefore, the rally will cause the opposite result, only exacerbating the split in the line of religion and interethnic relations.

Dagestani also expressed their opinion on the rally in Moscow experts. Political commentator of the Dagestan newspaper Chernovik, Magomed Magomedov, believes that the usefulness of the rally "depends on the wording and accents" by which the proposals of the protesters will be expressed. According to the political scientist, any protest action is a signal from the state to the state, indicating that there are unresolved problems in some sphere of life activity. According to Magomedov, protest sentiments that exist among Caucasian youth have not only religious, but also secular roots. In addition, the rise of anti-Islamic sentiment in Russia, caused by the activation of radical Islamists, will hit all Muslims, including those loyal to power.

In general, you can agree with him. The emergence in Russia of the germs of “political Islam” and the sharp increase in the Islamist underground, which often operates quite legally, speaks of a serious problem. For more than two decades, the authorities have not been conducting serious work in the youth environment; Russia does not have a single state-forming ideology. Therefore, representatives of the Western and Islamic project in Russia are a great success. A holy place is never empty. Everything is simple: either the state conducts long-term work to educate the patriots of their Fatherland and is itself trying to get closer to the model of the “ideal state and society”, or the western and eastern (Islamic) values ​​will destroy Russian civilization. Here it should be noted that with such a terrible social division and the domination of large comprador capital, as in Russia, the propaganda of positive patriotic values ​​will not succeed, since the words will not coincide with deeds. Only when the political “elite” of Russia itself will try to come closer to the ideals of self-restraint, humanity and justice, becoming a real elite, the best part of society, will the unity of government and society be possible (for example, Stalin’s USSR).

Another Dagestan political analyst, Khanzhan Kurbanov, the former editor-in-chief of the weekly Present Time (Makhachkala), believes that holding a Moscow rally is inappropriate. According to him, in Russia there is no Islamophobia or Caucasophobia at the state level, so there is no need to organize such a protest in Moscow. In addition, such a rally will not benefit. “It is inappropriate to once again focus attention on the Caucasus,” the expert believes. According to Kurbanov, such a protest, on the contrary, can be perceived by a part of society as a threat and provoke a response from the nationalists. Muslims need to learn to defend their rights “in the civil legal field”.

Leaving aside questions about whether a rally will take place or not, he will gather a significant number of people, or not, ask ourselves another, more serious question: why? The answer, especially in the context of not one “color revolution”, which we saw in a number of countries of the former socialist bloc and the “Arab spring”, is quite obvious. Russia is being pushed towards the Yugoslav (Syrian) scenario. The enemies of the Russian civilization need a confrontation along the line of Christians - Muslims, their own - alien, ethnic minorities against the state-forming nation, the outskirts against the center. Therefore, the task of the organizers of the Caucasian rally is clearly different from the stated. If they are not used “in the dark”, then they deliberately provoke Russian society into a split and opposition. Demonstrating strength and showing a new political situation, they defy an established situation.

This action acquires a special symbolism taking into account the participation of members of the Azatlyk (Freedom) movement. The essentially national-separatist movement is actively trying to master the field of Islamic unity. About the danger of this trend says the situation in Tatarstan. The free action in Russia of the carriers of the “Islamic project” resulted in the creation of a powerful Salafi and Wahhabi underground: terrorist attacks and murders of spiritual leaders across the country, arson of churches in Tataria and the Hizb-ut-Tahrir automobile rallies. The trend is very dangerous. Its development guarantees rivers of blood.

December 23 in Moscow passed round table meeting The Human Rights Center of the World Russian People’s Council on the topic “Where does the threat to Orthodoxy in Tatarstan come from?” Important questions were raised on it. Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, chairman of the Synodal Department for Church and Society Interaction of the Moscow Patriarchate, noted the frightening news from the Volga region (massive arson of churches, the killing of representatives of traditional Islam and the participation of representatives of local officials in the dismantling of worship crosses). He also noted cases when representatives of radical organizations appealed to Orthodox priests demanding to convert to Islam.

The Kryashen priest (Kryashens are baptized Tatars, an ethno-confessional group of Tatars from the Volga and Ural regions) from the village of Kryash-Serd, Pestrechinsky district of Tatarstan, Fr. Dimitri (Sizov) reported on the Islamization of Kryashens, the appearance of Wahhabis among them, the imposition of Islamic values. There was a threat of loss of the whole Orthodox people.

Director of the Human Rights Center of the World Russian People’s Council, Roman Silantyev, noted the merging of Wahhabism and power. In his opinion, in terms of inter-religious stability, the Republic of Tatarstan is currently in Russia in last place, and the situation in it can only be compared with Dagestan. Moreover, the republican authorities themselves helped to spread and strengthen Wahhabism, when in 1998 they forcibly united all Muslims in the RT into a single Spiritual Administration, and put the mufti on Gusman Iskhakov, who, as it turned out, turned out to be Wahhabi. The expert said that he has been in the republic annually since 1999, and so many complaints about the local authorities and “their inadequate policies regarding Orthodoxy and traditional Islam have not been received anywhere.” Silantyev noted the opinion that no one can destroy the interfaith peace in the republic is naive and fundamentally wrong. He cited the example of Syria, where Muslims and Christians lived side by side in peace and harmony for 1500 for years, and the radicals only had one year to blow up the country and fill it with blood.

The journalists of the newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda, Dmitry Steshin and Alexander Kots, who studied the situation in the republic and published the report “Tatarstan: baptism of fire” about the burning of churches and Wahhabism in the republic, also noted the danger of an offensive of radicalism in Tatarstan. They compared Tatarstan with Dagestan, where they also filmed a report in 2007, and where they were then told that Wahhabis are nonsense, they do not pose a threat to society. However, now Dagestan officials have already paid zakat (tax) to Wahhabis and, according to their requirements, close the restaurants if they consider them haram. Similar processes are now taking place in Tatarstan - with the persistent reluctance of local authorities to recognize the problem of radical Islam in the republic ...

The complex knot of problems in the North Caucasus, the topic of mass migration, the intensification of radical Islam in Russia, the emergence of the sprouts of “political Islam” and the development of national separatism — all this speaks of a serious illness in Russia. We are gradually approaching the new year 1917 or 1991. It is impossible to close our eyes to these problems, to speak only about “domestic conflicts”, to translate everything into the sphere of social and economic problems. The revival of “Great Russia” (within the borders of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Belarus and Transnistria), the expansion of the “Russian project”, the Russian language and culture, the fight against archaism in all its manifestations (such as shooting at weddings, bride kidnapping, polygamy, or "Magicians and psychics), the inclusion in the sphere of influence of Great Russia, the Baltic States and Central Asia. It is necessary to again offer the world a project of creating a society of the future, a society of creation. We need to move to a new technological structure. There are already dozens of technologies that can completely change the face of humanity. If Russia becomes the leader of humanity, who supports and preserves the values ​​of good, justice, shows the path of the formation of human society (all the great prophets - Siddhartha Gautama, Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Sergius of Radonezh) strove for it, the remaining problems will be resolved in a natural way.

Currently, the planet is covered by a wave of destruction (degradation), involution. Mankind has stopped in its development and is rapidly deteriorating. Western values ​​and radical Islam turn people into intelligent animals, "two-legged tools." Stop and reverse this process can only Russian civilization - it is its code and program. The task (mission) of Russia-Russia on the planet is the preservation of spirituality (divine principle) in man, the fight against evil in all its manifestations. This deep symbolism is displayed even in the coat of arms of Russia. On it the rider strikes a snake. Good conquers evil. This is the main myth of the Indo-European language family: the thunder-bearer, the horseman (Perun, George the Victorious) strikes a serpent, a world evil. Russia must fulfill its mission, or it is waiting for death. There is no other way!
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  1. +12
    26 December 2013 08: 26
    They wanted money, as in Chechnya
    1. +30
      26 December 2013 08: 28
      Quote: saag
      They wanted money, as in Chechnya

      And if the authorities?

      It reads:

      The theme of the Caucasian rally in Moscow was continued. January 26th on Manezhnaya Square a rally against xenophobia and Islamophobia is planned. According to the organizers, the demonstration will come up to a million people.


      And look:



      Well, and who will stop them, they wish to seize the Kremlin, the State. Duma or Government House?
      And what if a cry about "infidels" still follows in this mass?

      2.24 minutes.
      1. A.YARY
        +121
        26 December 2013 08: 49
        “Azatlyk” (“Freedom”) noted that he organized a series of actions “in defense of constitutional rights Muslims»

        I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!
        So where are the arrests ?!
        Or only Russians allow themselves to be fanned according to the authorities ?!
        Where are the arrests I ask ?!
        Why are these valorous policemen not dubbing these animals ?!
        Only Russian can meet Dubov ?!
        This is such an abomination gave such an order ?!
        Think about it, because soon,very soon it may become completely x-new!
        1. Warrawar
          +97
          26 December 2013 08: 51
          Quote: A.YARY
          I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!

          Ardent, don't you know that only Russians are imprisoned under Article 282. This article is also called "Russian article" in another way.
          1. +7
            26 December 2013 12: 39
            Quote: Warrawar
            Quote: A.YARY
            I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!

            Ardent, don't you know that only Russians are imprisoned under Article 282. This article is also called "Russian article" in another way.

            Yeah, and we Germans, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Latvians, etc., pat on the head straight /
            1. Warrawar
              +12
              26 December 2013 14: 52
              Quote: nemec55
              Yeah, and we Germans, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Latvians, etc., pat on the head straight /

              Well, you will marry the Russians and also 282)
        2. Field
          +16
          26 December 2013 09: 56
          They will give it to me - I'm in the armory, smoothbore and buckshot (sports wink , and then prove it ...)
          1. +16
            26 December 2013 11: 12
            It's time to have everyone. With such connivance of the authorities, soon everyone will have to choose whose side he is on.
        3. stroporez
          +14
          26 December 2013 11: 16
          Quote: A.YARY
          The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!
          Well they are not Russian, it doesn’t fall under this article .......
        4. fedorovith
          +7
          26 December 2013 16: 10
          He himself left Tajikistan at 96, saw with his own eyes how everyone shared, what they came to? After all, people from all over the world lived and got along there, one divorced nationalist market destroyed it all? Time will put everything in its place, only the moronic mass has added to us all. Here we meet each other with shit.
        5. +44
          26 December 2013 16: 20
          Quote: A.YARY
          I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!
          So where are the arrests ?!
          1. 0
            28 December 2013 13: 52
            it's just kapets. You cannot be silent and inactive. Otherwise, "gilka"
        6. +20
          26 December 2013 18: 28
          Quote: A.YARY
          I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!
          So where are the arrests ?!
          Or only Russians allow themselves to be fanned according to the authorities ?!
          Where are the arrests I ask ?!
          Why are these valorous policemen not dubbing these animals ?!
          Only Russian can meet Dubov ?!
          This is such an abomination gave such an order ?!
          Think about it, after all, soon, very soon it can become completely new!


          Therefore, it is necessary to allow the rally not on January 26, but after May 9, when the law on responsibility for calls for separatism enters into force. Maybe some will be able to legally legalize before the meeting, in the process of its preparation.
          And one more thing: only Russian citizens should be allowed to rally - citizens of Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, etc. DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS to participate in activities that undermine the state structure of the host country! This is a natural global practice, it’s over there that in Kiev, foreign instigators did (and there weren’t so many of them).
          1. Viktor Shmagin
            +9
            27 December 2013 00: 29
            Correctly, how can citizens of other states rally in Moscow. What are the citizens of Russia, they don’t hold rallies, because they’ll put them in prison, and it’s still easy to get rid of
            1. valerii41
              0
              1 January 2014 15: 51
              Russians kicked out, cut out to rally no one
        7. +17
          26 December 2013 20: 32
          Just wondering if the organizers of this rally of "tolerance and tolerance" are not afraid for themselves and for their brothers? After all, they should have enough reasons for concern after such a yapping-howl:
          1. For those who benefit from this "ram parade", its organizers are a motley and multi-tribe, albeit a million-strong sheep crowd - MEAT ... Just meat that is thrown to a predator without caring about its quality! ..
          2. INTERRELIGIOUS, not interethnic hostility, as they say (I have never heard of the hostility of the Karelians, Chuvashes, Mari, Nenets towards each other, Russians and vice versa, but about conflicts with the "participation" of Karelians, Kalmyks, peoples of the Volga region, Ossetians and, of course, Russians on the one hand, and Caucasian and Central Asian Muslims on the other ... everyone remembers them) has reached its climax! Relations between confessions in the regime of "Muslims - all the rest" are taut like a string and only one "click" is missing for the string to burst and ... Yes, with terrible blood and monstrous carnage, a frail and defiantly arrogant minority will pay for everything at once, dragging along innocent Tatars, Bashkirs, many Muslims who have lived with the rest of Russia in the world for centuries !!! They will beat them not because of their convictions and passports, but in the face, sorry for intolerance! ..
          PS It is foolish to tell people who treat Russia like a cash cow that such "manifestations of direct democracy" on their part can ruin our Motherland, but the authorities must understand !!! And if not, why is she like that?
        8. +16
          26 December 2013 20: 43
          If Caucasians hold their rally under the motto "ENOUGH TO FEED US", then I am "for"! wassat
        9. Thunderbolt
          +4
          26 December 2013 23: 25
          Quote: A.YARY
          I wonder where the arrests are.


          In fact! WHERE?
          And I want to remind you of one case that happened not so long ago:
          Moscow, October 16, 2013


          A criminal case has been initiated into the attack on a church in Moscow under Art. 213 of the RF Criminal Code "Hooliganism committed by a group of persons", the press center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs told ITAR-TASS. The maximum penalty is five years in prison, ITAR-TASS reports.
          On the eve, four men, one of whom was armed, entered the premises of the Temple of Gregory of Neocaesarea in Debreci, threatened the minister with a pistol, took pictures against the altar, and then disappeared.

          "Police officers have detained three offenders, measures have been taken to search for their accomplice," the Interior Ministry said, noting that all three did not work anywhere, and one of them had a registered MP-353 traumatic pistol with six rounds seized.

          But the excitement of business does not mean anything yet.

          Why is this event practically not covered in the press? I could hardly find mentions in the internet, and then from 16.10.13/XNUMX/XNUMX ... Why the authorities do not want to show by the example of these "piiiii" that they impartially, will imprison ALL under the article! And then I saw only "pusyak" behind tails, and I might get the impression that the government is not consistent, and does not comply with the laws that it itself makes, And then the question: Why should we observe them ?? (rhetorical question)
        10. +1
          27 December 2013 20: 34
          You are a short-sighted person, some individuals are just waiting for hard methods, here you need to delicately do everything, without noise and batons, quietly evict them to their homeland. The power act will only aggravate hatred and provoke a conflict, which is beneficial to Wahhabis and disadvantageous to Russia.
      2. predator.3
        +20
        26 December 2013 08: 50
        Quote: GreatRussia
        And if the authorities?
        Yes, they are already fucked up, in the middle structures of power!
        1. Airman
          +25
          26 December 2013 09: 39
          Quote: predator.3
          Quote: GreatRussia
          And if the authorities?
          Yes, they are already fucked up, in the middle structures of power!


          And you don't have associations: Elvira Nabiullina, Nail Nabiullin. And where are the "middle" power structures here? Where does the money come from, Zin?
          1. +1
            26 December 2013 23: 26
            Quote: Povshnik
            And you do not have associations: Elvira Nabiullina, Nail Nabiullin.


            Remember JV Stalin ...
          2. 0
            27 December 2013 10: 25
            Quote: Povshnik
            Quote: predator.3
            Quote: GreatRussia
            And if the authorities?
            Yes, they are already fucked up, in the middle structures of power!


            And you don't have associations: Elvira Nabiullina, Nail Nabiullin. And where are the "middle" power structures here? Where does the money come from, Zin?

            Quote: Povshnik
            Quote: predator.3
            Quote: GreatRussia
            And if the authorities?
            Yes, they are already fucked up, in the middle structures of power!


            And you don't have associations: Elvira Nabiullina, Nail Nabiullin. And where are the "middle" power structures here? Where does the money come from, Zin?


            Well, it seems that in all the recent spontaneous clashes with the Caucasians, Tatars and Bashkirs acted along with the Russians ... yes, actually, among those who built the empire before (this is about the Russian nobility) up to 40% come from Tatars
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      3. ed65b
        +15
        26 December 2013 08: 54
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Quote: saag
        They wanted money, as in Chechnya

        And if the authorities?

        It reads:

        The theme of the Caucasian rally in Moscow was continued. January 26th on Manezhnaya Square a rally against xenophobia and Islamophobia is planned. According to the organizers, the demonstration will come up to a million people.


        Well, and who will stop them, they wish to seize the Kremlin, the State. Duma or Government House?
        And what if a cry about "infidels" still follows in this mass?

        Only a machine gun and not one. If this action takes place, which I still doubt it will be the last nail in the lid of the coffin called Moscow. I think Sobyanin is not so stupid that this would be allowed to happen, and the FSB is not so stupid that he would not take the little hands of outright separatists. Article that is, or are waiting for a new one?
        1. A.YARY
          +22
          26 December 2013 09: 01
          and the FSB is not so stupid that it would not take the little hands of outright separatists

          There "tybeteikha" flashes a lot, but in my opinion in Russia a skullcap is not worn by any representative of the peoples inhabiting it ?!
          If, as you say, "the FSB are not so stupid," then the deportation would have gone on a MASS character, and the borders would have been locked ON THE CASTLE, and those who allowed it to sit in Lefortovo!
          1. +3
            26 December 2013 15: 23
            Quote: A.YARY
            and the FSB is not so stupid that it would not take the little hands of outright separatists

            There "tybeteikha" flashes a lot, but in my opinion in Russia a skullcap is not worn by any representative of the peoples inhabiting it ?!
            If, as you say, "the FSB are not so stupid," then the deportation would have gone on a MASS character, and the borders would have been locked ON THE CASTLE, and those who allowed it to sit in Lefortovo!

            Let ALL get together. We need to equip the New Land and the New Siberian Islands. Working hands are needed. The military and the border guards themselves will not cope.
        2. rolik
          +15
          26 December 2013 09: 24
          Quote: ed65b
          and the FSB is not so stupid that it would not take the little hands of outright separatists.

          Here I am about the same, a great opportunity to clean the trash. And what a field of activity for catching illegal immigrants! Take it, plant it in the heaters and to the border along the green semaphores. Land at the border itself, and then let them stomp on their stumps.
          1. A.YARY
            +20
            26 December 2013 09: 29
            ROMAN
            And what a field of activity for catching illegal immigrants!

            Even a legal immigrant does not have the right to any political speech and is subject to trial, prison, and after the sentence, expulsion !!!
          2. saber1357
            +2
            26 December 2013 22: 31
            Yes, very sensible. Let this disease appear so that everyone knows that it is necessary to treat. This is necessary, the "bogies" approved. It is immediately clear that these are not Muslims: because the bogs are ardent atheists and defenders of the rights of "minorities", and the Prophet said, "He who imitates a group of people is with them" (we draw a conclusion ourselves). So the Wahhabi bandit fosterlings with money are known from where they are simply preparing a provocation in the center of Moscow. And since all the deadlines have been agreed, let the GDP prepare properly, as it prepared for the elections ...
          3. +2
            27 December 2013 12: 07
            Land at the border itself, and then let them stomp on their stumps.
            No need to take them anywhere, but unload them on the territory of their embassies and let fellow countrymen do what they want with them. Only it is necessary to watch so that they do not jump back. smile
          4. ekzorsist
            0
            27 December 2013 18: 52
            No ! To shoot one half - it is obligatory !!!
            For greater accommodability of the second half.
        3. Shur
          +6
          26 December 2013 22: 51
          But while the Russians are sitting down, we have inaudible landings here .. The cops are all local, if you get to Kazan, you can wrap your flippers under torture. There is a brother, a matchmaker and a bunch of relatives of a friendly people. You can often hear assaults on Russians. Yes, not all, but many Russians have already left from sin. What "shaitan" these officials are feeding, they do not yet understand.
        4. Thunderbolt
          +5
          26 December 2013 23: 29
          Quote: ed65b
          this will be the last nail in the lid of the coffin called Moscow


          I would say even more .... under the name of Russia ... and even the MSCs and not all of Russia, but the capital! Our grandfathers and fathers did not give GERMANS Moscow !!! And we CHU ... AM GIVE IT ???? !!!!!!!!!!! am
      4. +59
        26 December 2013 09: 01
        Only 100 citizens can take up XNUMX buses and check passports with all protesters, according to the Constitution, only citizens of Russia can participate in the rally, foreigners DO NOT have this right. I am sure all buses will be full. After the rally, deport everyone to their homeland according to citizenship.
        1. +25
          26 December 2013 09: 08
          Quote: Canep
          . I am sure all buses will be full

          I am sure that 100 buses will not be enough.
          1. A.YARY
            +15
            26 December 2013 09: 24
            ALEXANDER
            I am sure that 100 buses will not be enough.

            And that's for sure!
            Once there was a conversation with an academician about immigrants in Moscow, and he said with a sigh
            “And you know a very sad thing, the entire transport system is now not enough to take these out of Moscow alone. What can we say about Russia?
            And all the deportations are for the media to calm the people down a little. "

            LIKE THIS!
            1. +11
              26 December 2013 11: 42
              and everything is thought up to us ..... the concentration camps are called .... and they will sit quietly and wait for their little house ... rude? -YES! but something else I’m afraid will not take off anymore .... OBVIOUSLY: time works for them, not for us ... and they bring their time by all means ... and our state, as always, is looking for its teeth somewhere)))) release the FSB from the leash!
              1. +5
                26 December 2013 15: 25
                Quote: KIND
                and everything is thought up to us ..... called concentration camps.

                What for? That's rough.
                You can provide work in other places.
                And who will run amok .. We take an example from the USA.
          2. +9
            26 December 2013 09: 56
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I am sure that 100 buses will not be enough.

            Greetings to Alexander! hi In 2006, he went on a business trip to Barnaul. I saw the following picture at the customs: A bus (junk on wheels) arrives at the customs from Kazakhstan, a border guard approaches it, and the bus leaves for a nickle for customs, there 150 people get out of the bus for a preliminary search. That's how much Mercedes O303 fits into one bus! There, Tajiks instead of seats built bunks in four levels, for the transport of migrant workers.
            1. +3
              26 December 2013 11: 10
              Quote: Canep
              ! There, Tajiks instead of seats built bunks in four levels, for the transport of migrant workers.

              hello, Sergey! So they missed him in Russia?
              1. +5
                26 December 2013 12: 12
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                So they missed him in Russia?
                I don’t know most likely yes. We stayed at customs for 40 minutes (both Kazakhstan and Russia passed), and these peppers were to have a detailed search for drugs, then they also say they will be forced to clean up at customs, to clean the surrounding area, etc. (then spring was in the yard). On that nickle there were 2 more buses. I think they went no earlier than in 2-3 days. Kazakhs and Russians naturally pierced them at all bases.
                1. +4
                  26 December 2013 21: 17
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  hello, Sergey! So they missed him in Russia?


                  Simply, they ripped off a certain amount from each and missed)) elementary.
                2. ekzorsist
                  0
                  27 December 2013 19: 19
                  Here you are mistaken, the Kazakhs did not punched through the bases, in all their pockets for the presence of denyuzhki of all varieties and stripes. After the seizure of the N-th number of bills of proper dignity with the title "border guard of Kazakhstan", these persons most likely were unimpeded for further passage.
          3. Luzhichanin
            +3
            26 December 2013 10: 00
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I am sure that 100 buses will not be enough.

            Every day, for the past few weeks, I have seen how, at the same time, along Dmitrovka several riot police ribs with sirens sweep ... Are you training for the speed of force gathering? laughing
          4. +4
            26 December 2013 18: 37
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I am sure that 100 buses will not be enough.

            So it’s possible in Korchaginsky - quickly a narrow-numbered Manezhnaya-Kazan, and in teplushki, in teplushki! laughing
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        3. Hon
          +13
          26 December 2013 09: 18
          Quote: Canep

          Canep


          Today, 09: 01

          ↑ ↓ New


          Fit 100 buses, and check passports with all the protesters,

          Buses say ...
          1. +32
            26 December 2013 10: 18
            It seems that you need to immediately deliver freight trains to all stations, and take buses to the cars, that is, drive them in a circle. So in Moscow there are 9 stations with 8 tracks on each, a total of 72 routes, on one track there will be a train of 40 freight cars, each one can load 70 people. Total 201600 people per hour. True, the Moscow hub will be paralyzed during this rally. Yes-ah-ah oil painting turned out! Stalin will get up to look at this picture. I am sure he would approve.
            1. +7
              26 December 2013 11: 23
              Not 70 people will get into a freight car, but 700.
              There was a moment in my life I had to ride "on stage" and so in 1 "KUPE" we were loaded by 34 people with bags, and believe me there was still a place.
              1. +7
                26 December 2013 14: 00
                Quote: Alexandr73
                Not 70 people will get into a freight car, but 700.

                This is if LIVING ... But a COMMODITY wagon is not designed for such by definition ...

                Shl. Oooh, how subtly "fired up" ... what laughing It seems there was a knock on the door, really the policemen with "accusations" ... belay
            2. +8
              26 December 2013 15: 27
              Chechens in 1944 were taken out very quickly. Now it will be even faster (no need to run through the mountains - get yourself together)
              1. Tyumen
                +3
                26 December 2013 18: 43
                Vasya, and in 44m they all gathered themselves. Although they had powerful formations with artillery.
                It’s just that the ITT was not going to destroy the people as an ethnos, but PUNISH for treason.
                Komsomol and party cells were preserved. The Czechs understood their guilt, therefore
                sat down and went.
                1. .Umar.
                  0
                  26 December 2013 21: 46
                  Tyumen

                  Is everything all right with your head? What do you mean they sat down and went ... what artillery among ordinary peasants living in their villages engaged in their gardens and cattle. In general, I wish you the exact same trip! ..
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2013 23: 05
                    Quote: .UmaR.
                    what artillery among ordinary peasants living in their villages engaged in their gardens and cattle

                    Please do not tell fairy tales. I met in '95 with "ordinary peasants", and saw artillery, and armored vehicles, and MLRS "Grad", and much more ...
                    1. .Umar.
                      0
                      27 December 2013 01: 18
                      Passer

                      Yes, it’s not long with you and in the psychiatric hospital ..., you’re talking about deportation. I understand about 1944, but you are talking about the 90s, first you need to look, read, then write fool
                  2. 0
                    26 December 2013 23: 05
                    Quote: .UmaR.
                    what artillery among ordinary peasants living in their villages engaged in their gardens and cattle

                    Please do not tell fairy tales. I met in '95 with "ordinary peasants", and saw artillery, and armored vehicles, and MLRS "Grad", and much more ...
                  3. Tyumen
                    +4
                    27 December 2013 03: 57
                    Umar, peasants (although this word is unacceptable to Muslims), were held responsible for a considerable
                    part of their people that has become a traitor to their country. And they accepted the punishment.
                    Read somewhere about the composition of the Chechen-Hitler formations, and you will understand why
                    you still exist because of the humanism of Stalin, who did not want to eradicate the whole people
                    because of the part of the traitors.
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              3. +2
                26 December 2013 20: 52
                According to my parents, from the right bank of the Terek River (a pontoon bridge was built), cars and convoys were going through our village for three days (they drove the elderly, children, women, men and drove them on foot.) They gave 2 hours to the training camp. They say howling stood terrible.
              4. .Umar.
                -3
                26 December 2013 21: 33
                Vasya: Chechens were taken out very quickly in 1944.

                Mndaa, they burst into houses and beat innocent people with rifle butts on the heads of even women and old people, and the NKVD was weak to punish precisely the traitors — as now the FSB — why doesn’t it stop these radical people? I don’t understand why?
                1. +2
                  26 December 2013 23: 18
                  Quote: .UmaR.
                  burst into houses and beat nothing wine people with butts on the head of even women and old people

                  Do you describe the 44th or 93-94 years when the Russians were squeezed out of Grozny?
                  Learn history not only from the textbooks of Dudaev and Kadyrov.
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                3. Cossack23
                  -4
                  26 December 2013 23: 57
                  you’re right, you don’t understand why you are being knocked over with many Caucasians, I say they don’t understand what’s going on, they all say for sure that there’s a weak war, but I don’t see it myself and they will throw us as a civilian opposition, but for what reason Petrograd snot shook their fists while they were pinned and want to minus or not, but I will tell you so in a healthy body a healthy mind brought to this
                  1. Tyumen
                    +6
                    27 December 2013 04: 07
                    Cossack23, in my opinion, you young fool, if you think that the main thing in a person is
                    it is from morning till night to engage in wrestling and the rest of the sport. You have brains
                    medieval, that’s the thing. You think like an abrek of the 19th century.
            3. +3
              26 December 2013 15: 47
              Nonsense, on foot with shovels in hand, I’m kicking them myself. That would remove snow and garbage along the way. And at the same time let the mass graves dig along the way, and dig up all the gardens along the way by spring. And step to the side - shooting, jumping in place - a provocation.
            4. RusSever
              +1
              26 December 2013 16: 07
              A four-axle pulman with a volume of at least 160 m3 will enter at least 200 ...
            5. ekzorsist
              +1
              27 December 2013 19: 28
              Why are you all buses, buses ???
              Can still give a taxi to everyone ??? - On foot, with the song "I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to distant lands" along the highway (what straight line is there in the direction of the Arctic Circle? Here is it) with a good escort and the warning "Step to the left, step to the right, escape - shooting at defeat, jump on the spot - an attempt to fly away - shooting without warning "... and all this horde will understand everything, even in German, Polish ... any language.
          2. +8
            26 December 2013 10: 33
            From the roof is not a bad sector of fire. On both sides, a fire bag.
            1. -5
              26 December 2013 16: 16
              And let's count.

              RusSever RU Today, 16: 07 ↑
              A four-axle pulman with a volume of at least 160 m3 will enter at least 200 ...
              kare RU Today, 10: 33 ↑
              From the roof is not a bad sector of fire. On both sides, a fire bag.
              And who will tell me about "who the hell is such a waste? Let them bring money to the national economy. They remove the snow, repair the roads, in the end, let them build fabulous slides in kindergartens."
              1. +6
                26 December 2013 19: 28
                It is clear that children's towns are not needed. Smart people have other thoughts ... All the schools, the vast majority, come from the Caucasians. And deported Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc. I understand perfectly that the Caucasus is Russia and they are citizens of Russia, but !!! As reality shows, they do not relate to Russia at all as its citizens, but as some kind of invaders, for whom Russian enemies and ...
        4. Jin
          +33
          26 December 2013 09: 44
          Quote: Canep
          I am sure all buses will be full. After the rally, deport everyone to their homeland according to citizenship.


          Hello everyone, colleagues!
          Let's just say ... All the jambs, the vast majority, comes precisely from the Caucasians. And deported Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc. I understand perfectly that the Caucasus is Russia and they are citizens of Russia, but !!! As reality shows, they do not refer to Russia at all as its citizens, but as some invaders, for whom they are Russian enemies and ... And they, damn it, are Aryans like (read Muslims)! Doesn’t resemble anything ??? I would be happy to live in peace with them, but is this possible under our power ??? YARY is right: "where are the landing?" Or Putin pissing something, or I don’t understand anything .... sad
          1. +5
            26 December 2013 14: 40
            Quote: Jin
            Let's just say ... All the jambs, the vast majority, comes precisely from the Caucasians. And deported Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc.
            And you think the Caucasians will stand and watch as the Tajiks are taken away, they will begin to "violate public order", and for this they will also be taken to the bus.
            1. +6
              26 December 2013 14: 49
              Quote: Canep
              they will begin to "disturb public order", and for this they will also be taken to the bus.

              This will be followed by the purchase of a ticket already on the route "Makhachkala-Moscow" and so on in a circle for the taxes of the RUSSIAN taxpayer.
              To begin with strengthening border control, with the introduction of mandatory REGISTRATION and fingerprinting when moving, etc.
              Only then will "buses and coaches" be effective measures ...
              1. +6
                26 December 2013 14: 56
                Quote: Ptah
                This will be followed by the purchase of a ticket already on the route "Makhachkala-Moscow"
                So Caucasians do not send to Makhachkala, but to build a railway to Kolyma. In general, for participating in the riots in the zone.
                1. +8
                  26 December 2013 15: 02
                  Quote: Canep
                  So Caucasians do not send to Makhachkala, but to build a railway to Kolyma.

                  ... Or the channel "Baltic Sea-Sea of ​​Okhotsk" what
                  I agree completely !!! good
                  COME TO WORK - WORK ...
                  Where it is in demand, at construction sites communism Great Russia.
                  In general, it’s worth thinking about the offense committed in the region where he arrived without CONSTANT registration was considered by the courts as Aggravating Factor with appropriate enhanced penalties..
                  1. +3
                    26 December 2013 15: 28
                    Quote: Ptah
                    Or the channel "Baltic Sea-Sea of ​​Okhotsk

                    Better let the tunnel build in Alaska.
                  2. +1
                    26 December 2013 15: 31
                    Quote: Ptah
                    the offense committed in the region where he arrived without constant registration was considered by the courts as an aggravating factor with appropriate enhanced penalties ..

                    Tell me what region you are from.
                    And then suddenly I will pass and I want to smoke in a place not equipped for this.
                    1. +3
                      26 December 2013 15: 45
                      Al Khobar City, Sharqiyah Province, Saudi Arabia.
                      Want to smoke, don’t take hashik with you. They will give here.
                      If you want to drink, drink in duty-free or in the airplane. Here for this - the ax head off at once.
                      If you want a sekisa - "stock up for the future" in your homeland.
                      Want ....
                      It is unlikely that you don’t want anything ... hi
          2. +3
            26 December 2013 22: 04
            Quote: Jin
            I understand perfectly well that the Caucasus is Russia and they are citizens of Russia, but !!! <....> they are treated not at all as its citizens, but as some kind of invaders, for whom Russian enemies and ..

            The Caucasus has long been disintegrated, it begins to live its own life. In the future, it may unite under a common Islamic or common Caucasian idea - and in any case, Russia will get dangerous neighbors, the influence on which on its part tends to zero. In the Soviet period, while the Muslims of the Caucasus were actually prohibited from going on the Hajj, control over Mecca instead of the Turks -the Ottomans were taken by the Saudis, who profess Wahhabism as the official Islamic doctrine. And new believers from the North Caucasus, going on the Hajj, began to receive a charge of "pure" Islam, which began to actively press the Sufi tariqahs, which are customary for the Russian south. Many external manifestations of Islam (like, for example, hijabs and beards) were brought to the North Caucasus in the 1990s. It can be argued that Islam in the Caucasus will no longer be the same as it was 100 years ago, especially in the context of an upsurge of Muslim culture that has engulfed a large layer of local youth. And the first loud calls are already in a hurry to notify us of the changes: in November, the main source of news from Chechnya - Instagram Kadyrov - announced plans to create a Chechen-Bahraini airline, which will strengthen the status of Grozny airport as an international one, with flights to Islamic countries. After numerous visits by sheikhs and the bringing of Islamic relics to the Heart of Chechnya Mosque, this is clear evidence of the republic's international orientation, which is now pursuing its own foreign policy with the tacit non-interference of the federal center. Maidans and Caucasian rallies begin with a blue stream ... but for now our brain center is tolerantly reflecting on the future of the UK and Russia .. fool
            1. Cossack23
              0
              27 December 2013 00: 25
              Tersky, you think one is right in my opinion, the Caucasus must be accepted as it is and not be imposed on us by our stereotype of behavior, especially since it is far from Russian (all Caucasian peoples) have their own unique culture and we feel it not as alien to us but the Islam that was imposed on us is alien to us and we need to fight with it and not with the peoples of the Caucasus, they are mostly peaceful and you can’t tell about jackals from there and all the dirt, because there are a lot of Orthodox Caucasians (Ossetians, Kabardins, etc. .) some are still pagans and their faith is pure they are not fools. Do not judge by the Nokhchis the entire Caucasus, they are good people, you just need to monitor the language when you speak to them and answer for words, which our government does not do and allows criminal negligence or to shake for their Olympiad, or they do not care about the people, and most likely all together, and if those in power do nothing after the Olympics, I will give you a hundred uphill, we will come to their house and ask Russia for no more patience.
              1. .Umar.
                -2
                27 December 2013 01: 34
                Cossack23

                Quote: Do not judge by Nokhchi the whole Caucasus, they are good people,

                Mndaa, then you think all the people are bad people yes, thank you, you know what I’ll say if it weren’t for Dudaev who wouldn’t be handed to us, for example, to the Kabardinians or Ossetians or Circassians they would be bad and that’s the essence of dumb things! ..
          3. +1
            26 December 2013 23: 14
            Quote: Jin
            And they, damn it, Aryans type (read Muslims

            somewhere in the internet I read that "scientists" have identified their relationship with Jews smile smile !!!!! duck of course.
        5. Airman
          +10
          26 December 2013 09: 47
          Quote: Canep
          Only 100 citizens can take up XNUMX buses and check passports with all protesters, according to the Constitution, only citizens of Russia can participate in the rally, foreigners DO NOT have this right. I am sure all buses will be full. After the rally, deport everyone to their homeland according to citizenship.

          Or maybe in court and in Kolyma for the construction of roads, and then, after free labor, after 5 years, in transit to their homeland. Deportation is expensive for us. If it came at the expense of the employer, the employer, then no question.
          Only the court must be within 72 hours, even with deportation, and not 3-9 months, as it is now, and without the right to appeal.
          1. +1
            26 December 2013 14: 03
            Quote: Povshnik
            Or maybe in court and in Kolyma for the construction of roads, and then, after free labor, after 5 years, in transit to their homeland.

            The surviving "millionaires" ....
            In my opinion, the most necessary and effective measure ...
          2. +1
            26 December 2013 15: 32
            Not legal border crossing, i.e. soldering all
        6. +3
          26 December 2013 09: 52
          Quote: Canep
          according to the Constitution, only citizens of Russia can participate in a rally
          There are more people gathering from the North Caucasus than from Central Asia and the Caucasus, and they are Russians. This is the whole problem.
          Quote: Canep
          Fit Xnumx Buses,
          There is a possibility that the fleet in Makhachkala may be replenished with a hundred grooves laughing
        7. Ahmed Osmanov
          +17
          26 December 2013 10: 39
          Good day!

          That's right Sergey. Excuse me, of course, but look at the faces of these people, there is a clear majority of MIGRANTS who do not have the right to participate in rallies, since they are not citizens of the Russian Federation. And the representative of migrants in Russia (I don’t remember his name) should sit and be silent, otherwise he said in an ultimatum form that migrants could arrange a riot (delirium). And the people who come to pray in Moscow mosques are mostly migrants, and the citizens of the Russian Federation professing Islam (Caucasians, Tatars, Bashkirs) would fit in the mosque without creating discomfort for the residents.
        8. +22
          26 December 2013 12: 13
          And how do you like this note? Or is it just a business and nothing personal?

          So they arrived, the authorities began to care not only about the adaptation of migrants, not only about the inviolability and jurisdiction, but now in St. Petersburg they have taken care of how to put the women in bed.

          "The head of the St. Petersburg Federal Migration Service Elena Dunaeva offered to provide migrants with the opportunity to" meet the needs of adults "" ©

          If we ascertain the fact that on average the age of labor migrants is about 30 years, from 17 to 35, while 60% are men and being in the territory of our country even provokes for several months (rape). They are here far from family and from wives, and that is why they embark on this path.

          You got it? Ready to meet your needs? They are poor, far from home, far from wives, and I want sex - that’s rape. To understand and forgive in short, this Elena suggests.

          I really hope that she will show by personal example how to realize the needs of adults, right here the first one will go down to the basement. Well, or in their own building, the FMS will open a special office to meet these very needs of migrants.

          By the way, the practice of special brothels for the invaders has deep roots. Always - whether in the occupied territory of the USSR, whether in Vietnam, well, etc. - The invaders used local girls. Elena apparently studied historical experience.
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                  1. +2
                    26 December 2013 23: 16
                    Quote: Ptah
                    And why "

                    you don’t understand something request This is the whole point - if you want to communicate, then be prepared that you will not only be stroked by the wool but can be added so that mom will strangle herself for her son wassat and if you want a rating, then to normal and to Kars, that’s just all the marshals in the emergency room so as not to bathe wassat and he is comfortable good Moreover, he really understands the tank theme and it’s interesting bully the choice is yours request I got a face If I was wrong, sorry crying
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                  1. +1
                    26 December 2013 23: 25
                    Quote: .UmaR.
                    .UmaR

                    Quote: Nikolai D.
                    Nikolay D

                    Quote: Ptah
                    Ptah

                    Quote: holderrr
                    holderrr

                    Quote: Simon
                    Simon


                    I warn the above visitors from violating the VO Rules except for the first one on the list, which already received a warning.
                    1. +2
                      26 December 2013 23: 52
                      Quote: Apollon
                      Quote: .UmaR.
                      .UmaR

                      Quote: Nikolai D.
                      Nikolay D

                      Quote: Ptah
                      Ptah

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                      holderrr

                      Quote: Simon
                      Simon


                      I warn the above visitors from violating the VO Rules except for the first one on the list, which already received a warning.

                      apparently the emergency button outweighed the miracle of human obsession wassat Well, the flag in hand and the moderator on kentrol bully
                      1. +1
                        27 December 2013 00: 14
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Moderator on kentrol

                        I have great respect for our moderators hi Who carry out their duties regardless of ... sorry request face good And I perceive deleted comments as a manifestation of professionalism which is acquired over the years hi
          2. 0
            1 January 2014 16: 06
            - Duck and start with her ....
        9. +2
          26 December 2013 17: 06
          Quote: Canep
          Only the citizens of Russia can take up 100 buses and check their passports with all the protesters, according to the Constitution, only foreigners have NO such right.

          Here it is! Great comment. good
        10. +3
          27 December 2013 08: 12
          In no case should they be sent immediately to their homeland. First, send them to work out in order to reimburse the Finnish Russia. damage, earned a ticket, and then .... in freight cars, to the border and to scare them with machine guns in the back so that it wouldn’t be whacky .....
      5. +22
        26 December 2013 09: 32
        Lead will stop them, as elsewhere.
      6. +4
        26 December 2013 09: 49
        Well, and who will stop them, they wish to seize the Kremlin, the State. Duma or Government House?
        And what if a cry about "infidels" still follows in this mass?

        bullets will stop them
        1. -1
          26 December 2013 18: 55
          Who were the bullets stopping? Cowards or traitors?
      7. +7
        26 December 2013 10: 26
        Well, sho say! HERD! and this is also "FLOWERS" soldier
        1. +11
          26 December 2013 10: 53
          I also want to add: this herd has a HERSE in any way, and he is at the top! let him figure it out and take it away in a quiet one! there is no shepherd! and the herd in the stalls! just already boiling !!!! hi
          1. stroporez
            +3
            26 December 2013 11: 24
            Quote: Far East
            and cleaned by quiet! at
            call for the violent overthrow of the elected president ??? wassat
            1. +7
              26 December 2013 12: 36
              Quote: stroporez
              call for the violent overthrow of the elected president ???

              why not! surrounded himself (dimoniki, Kadyrov, Serdyukov, Chubais) can be listed! you know yourself! and nah ...... HE together with THESE is needed! you need? hi
          2. Luzhichanin
            +2
            26 December 2013 13: 44
            Quote: Far East
            I also want to add: this herd has a HERSE in any way, and he is at the top! let him figure it out and take it away in a quiet one! there is no shepherd! and the herd in the stalls! just already boiling !!!!

            At the very top, there is only one unsinkable since the beginning of the 90s ... Kuzhegedovich, he is the most. Do you really want to say that power is dancing under his tune? belay
            1. +2
              26 December 2013 17: 13
              Quote: Luzhichanin
              At the very top, there is only one unsinkable since the beginning of the 90s ... Kuzhegedovich, he is the most. Do you really want to say that power is dancing under his tune?

              All your questions and remarks are answered in this photo.
              Well, maybe Kuzhugetich himself is not "dancing", and not "to the tune".
              And what is this in the hands of the "guarantor" and what is he doing?
              They think differently about reforming the army. Judging by camouflage. request
              1. +3
                26 December 2013 19: 00
                Quote: Ptah

                Well maybe not Kuzhugetich &

                Ptah, I thought you were smarter, And the arguments may not be myself and may not be to the tune, and maybe not him. How much he did, you won’t do it for 200 years.
                I am Russian - and I tell you that you are wrong.
                And my bow to Shoigu.
                1. +6
                  26 December 2013 19: 40
                  Sasha, I’m not at all belittling Putin’s possible advantages, ESPECIALLY ON THE BACKGROUND OF TWO PREDATORSnever called for TO THE CONTROL OF EXISTING AUTHORITY IN THE FACE OF THE E-T-O-G-O PRESIDENT, and even more so I have no desire FOOT SHOYGU.
                  I am not going to be in their places for one simple reason that I AS A RUSSIAN WILL HAVE TO LISTEN first of all to the opinions of the state-forming nation and only secondly to the cries of the Caucasus and bais from cf. Of Asia.
                  What is not so noticeable by the authorities now. Which for some reason seems complicated to the president. Do not agree? Then what is the article about and what do we grind here all day?
                  If Putin is gaining "points" in the foreign policy field, then in his own country he is rapidly losing them.
                  Therefore, it is possible not to demand "revolutions", but to indicate, as they said before, ERRORS Worth it. Including the president and the ministers.
                  And the photo is just about "who, where, with whom, how he dances and to whose tune."
                  Everyone will see the meaning in their own way.
            2. 0
              27 December 2013 11: 59
              Quote: Luzhichanin
              Kuzhegedovich, he is the most. Do you really want to say that power is dancing under his tune?

              but what the hell! he needs it! look deep into! hi
      8. +6
        26 December 2013 10: 59
        I don’t know what to say ... you really have a lot of them! you need to somehow arrange their entry, remaining deported, the visa regime is the most.
      9. +3
        26 December 2013 13: 04
        Who will stop? Fire to kill from automatic weapons and tank tracks. In meat .. If you want to grab something.
        1. +4
          26 December 2013 13: 55
          Quote: Mairos
          Who will stop? Fire to kill from automatic weapons and tank tracks. In meat .. If you want to grab something.

          It is clear that physically there is someone to stop them, it’s not even discussed, but morally who is ready to give such an order? Shoigu seems to be off topic, he has an army, this is the matter of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Do you think there are many generals with principles and do they have real levers Kolokoltsev was the first to blame the Russians for inciting ethnic hatred, unless God forbid what happens. Biryulevo showed it clearly.
      10. Quiet
        +1
        26 December 2013 13: 25
        Well, and who will stop them


        Airborne and Marines !!!
        1. +2
          26 December 2013 23: 15
          First, let the FSB work, there is nothing to sit out pants hi Better take care of the elite. No.
          1. Cossack23
            0
            27 December 2013 00: 31
            Yes, the FSB was most likely besieged by direct order
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      12. +2
        26 December 2013 14: 48
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Well, and who will stop them, they wish to seize the Kremlin, the State. Duma or Government House?

        Naturally, the authorities could not attract explosives.
        But if there is such a desire - you can stop and turn back.
        Of course, the consequences will not be the most rosy.
        Therefore, such a variant of events is undesirable.
        We need to start by working with diasporas, migrants and bringing the rule of law to its workable form.
        1. Airman
          +1
          26 December 2013 19: 34
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Well, and who will stop them, they wish to seize the Kremlin, the State. Duma or Government House?

          Naturally, the authorities could not attract explosives.
          But if there is such a desire - you can stop and turn back.
          Of course, the consequences will not be the most rosy.
          Therefore, such a variant of events is undesirable.
          We need to start by working with diasporas, migrants and bringing the rule of law to its workable form.

          Moldovan, you start pissing a little, so you start calling for tolerance, that is, for tolerance. Tired of feeding the traitors, they wanted to live on their own, without Russia, live, and don’t fuck with us, this applies to all the "former" republics. I treat Moldovans well, especially from Balti, but you have chosen your own path.
          1. +6
            26 December 2013 20: 30
            Quote: Povshnik
            Moldovan, you start to piss a little

            Do not be rude and do not run into reciprocal flattering reviews.
            If you suffer from mental indigestion and are unable to understand what is written, then be guided by at least basic respect for members of the forum.
            If you have no idea what respect is, read the forum rules.
            I wish you a quick clarification of the mind.
            Why did you come to such unexpected conclusions, one can only guess.
            And where did you see the calls for tolerance? And where does Moldova, when it came to Caucasians? However, this does not interest me.
            The alien head is a dense forest.
      13. 0
        26 December 2013 21: 37
        You can stop if you act quickly and decisively.
      14. 0
        26 December 2013 23: 05
        and where is this crowd rushing? what
      15. ekzorsist
        0
        27 December 2013 18: 47
        The top video has a great position ...
        two DShKm perfectly stop and not yet badly teach this horde the rules of decency and respect for public order.
      16. MAV
        MAV
        0
        1 January 2014 12: 58
        pull the cable at the level of the feet and sharply remove the uncoupling ..
    2. +10
      26 December 2013 08: 32
      Quote: saag
      They wanted money, as in Chechnya

      Yeah, put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table !!!
    3. 0
      26 December 2013 08: 33
      Normal AU ??????? You wake up, read, how your favorite swamp shushara is torn with support, all this is insanity. Soon your vis-a-vis Allah Akbar will start yelling. Go support your friends.
      1. +12
        26 December 2013 10: 16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Normal AU ???????


        Something screaming? Well, what are these shouting? Are you Chi, patient ??
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        your favorite marsh shushara is torn with support, all this is insanity.

        Did you understand what you wrote? This is not my marsh brought to the point that Muslims swing rights in Moscow. This is the Kremlin policy that you support, leading to such results. And for especially gifted pro-government demagogues, the article says:
        ... any protest rally is a signal to the state on the part of society, indicating the presence of unresolved problems ...

        But these problems were not created by the swamp, but by your favorite Kremlin shobla.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Go support your friends.

        Do not worry, novels, it will not rust after me. If they gather on that day when I'm not at work, I will definitely go and "support", so I will "support" so that the "guests" have no desire to download the right. It's you, novels, keyboard fighter, and I'm not afraid of the street.
        1. +4
          26 December 2013 11: 06
          Quote: Normal
          This is not my marsh brought to the point that Muslims swing rights in Moscow.

          No, of course, I don’t write this. I say that your shushara supports this rally. Let’s turn on, join, support like-minded people. wink
          Quote: Normal
          and your favorite Kremlin shobla.

          She is not my beloved, but rather your hated one. Although you try not to notice the support from your beloved swamp, Young people, it’s necessary, where it’s profitable to notice, where it’s not profitable to not notice good
          Quote: Normal
          If they gather on the day when I'm not at work, I will definitely go and "support", so I will "support" so that the "guests" have no desire to download

          Yeah, put the photo out of your trip. You can take the photo with Udaltsov, you don’t need to be shy.
        2. +3
          26 December 2013 11: 08
          Quote: Normal
          And for especially gifted pro-government demagogues, the article says: ... any protest rally is a signal to the state on the part of society, indicating the presence of unresolved problems ...

          Of course, unrest is always a purely voluntary initiative of the people and the money of the West in conjunction with Allah Akbar has nothing to do with it !!?
          1. Yarosvet
            +2
            26 December 2013 15: 06
            Quote: Strezhevchanin
            Western money in a compartment with Allah Akbar has nothing to do with it !!?

            Is this a hint of the complete incompetence of the FSB?
            1. +2
              26 December 2013 17: 17
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Is this a hint of the complete incompetence of the FSB?
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        1. +5
          26 December 2013 16: 38
          Quote: Ruslan67
          I'm somewhere nearby

          Should this make anyone happy?
          The comments of the "normal", though not so beautifully decorated with yellow dances like those of "Ruslan67", are much more informative and reflect the essence of the problems raised in the subject.
          For your information. hi
          1. +1
            26 December 2013 16: 55
            Quote: Ptah
            For your information.

            Well if you note what It’s very convenient to add opponents to the emergency situations and start broadcasting in the company of the same heroes without fear of repulse. Before writing, you would know what and how hi Minus returned for a better understanding
            1. +3
              26 December 2013 18: 56
              I do not understand your undercover fuss and all forum intrigues are unpleasant. Therefore, I do not need anyone else’s explanation, graters that do not directly concern me.
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Minus returned for a better understanding

              "Understanding" did not happen, it is indifferent to the "minuses".
              The only thing I would like to pay attention to is "Has this normal forgiven, without my supervision, loosened up?. You remind her on occasion ..."
              Overly rude and self-confident, Do not you? Deserves "-" or not? drinks
              1. +4
                26 December 2013 20: 13
                Quote: Ptah
                Deserves "-" or not

                There is no from you because not for you hi
                Quote: Ptah
                Too boorish and self-confident

                Deserved and not only from me request
                Quote: Ptah
                I do not understand your undercover fuss and all forum intrigues are unpleasant

                As for the one who has recently appeared here, I’ll try to explain. This forum began as a military-patriotic site and a circle of interests. Now it is a well-developed platform for military-political games that some try to bend under themselves. One of the tricks is to correctly get a rating for most posts After this, with easy provocations, identify opponents and preliminarily complaining to admins to add them to the emergency situations. After that, a group of a certain direction, by mutual pluses, catches up with local epaulettes. Result: You came recently, you read their posts but don’t see that those who have been here for a long time could respond well knows before they got 2-3 stars The overall picture is distorted Do you like it? Flag in hand - the emergency button is always with you hi bully
                1. 0
                  26 December 2013 20: 53
                  Only two quotes
                  "As for the recently appeared here"
                  и
                  "You came recently."
                  I don’t remember exactly, but somewhere around the autumn of the 12th - the time of my appearance at VO. The current nickname in no way speaks of the time of my visit to the site, and my lack of understanding (in your opinion) of the situation.
                  Like this -

                  http://i2.x8.net/2/se_O.jpg?1388076447

                  I think it's clear further? By the way, you want a little "puzzle". Think about how this situation could turn out. If interested, I am ready to send a lot of such "absurdities". They take a separate daddy on my screw.

                  http://i3.x8.net/2/Ls_B.jpg?1388076743
                  1. +1
                    26 December 2013 22: 35
                    opened both of your links hi With all due respect to your opinion, you yourself will leave the site or you bully to help?
                  2. +1
                    26 December 2013 22: 41
                    Not related to PM hi I also did not immediately register request but do not repeat the mistakes of predecessors drinks
    4. +9
      26 December 2013 09: 16
      The friendship of peoples in Russia is growing by leaps and bounds, it is easier to blame a neighbor of a different nationality for your troubles than to admit that he is robbing you of the same kind as you, but a higher one.
      1. +18
        26 December 2013 10: 11
        Quote: Civil
        The friendship of peoples in Russia is growing by leaps and bounds, it is easier to blame a neighbor of a different nationality for your troubles than to admit that he is robbing you of the same kind as you, but a higher one.


        And you read the names of the top ten "robbers", there, in my opinion, not a single Russian, unless, of course, the Jews are considered Russian. am
        1. .Umar.
          0
          26 December 2013 22: 20
          old rocket scientist: And you read the names of the top ten "robbers", there, in my opinion, not a single Russian, unless, of course, the Jews are considered Russian. am

          Totally agree with you! I did not hint at this on this site! .. Yes
          1. Cossack23
            0
            27 December 2013 00: 38
            I just showed without a hint so now I have one warning
      2. +7
        26 December 2013 13: 58
        And if this high-ranking official himself came down from the mountains five years ago? And his fellow countrymen thrust him into the police and he is already your uchaskovy.
    5. +6
      26 December 2013 09: 32
      Oh, you have to enter the rally through the frame. And to put on the frame FMSnikov. Here it will be fun when a single unit falls off from a million ... in the beginning.
      1. +9
        26 December 2013 11: 17
        Quote: Karavan
        Oh, you have to enter the rally through the frame.

        On the output from the city with a sign: "RALLETS IN SUPPORT" MUSLIMS "ARE HELD ON SPITZBERGEN island" and to do so in all cities ..... already quite sick fool
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    7. +7
      26 December 2013 13: 40
      Quote: saag
      They wanted money, as in Chechnya


      They received money, as in Chechnya, from Wahhabi Saudis for a terrorist war.

      My opinion is pure: Muslim believers are no different from those of Christians or Jews or fire worshipers there. They do not need to assert their rights, because in this country no one encroaches on them. Nobody needs these rights for nothing - people are busy with business, they need to work, not rally. The struggle for the rights of Muslims, or rather the rights of Wahhabis, is a purely anti-Russian undertaking. I consider all these walrus fighters to be immediately brought under an article on separatism and sent for the improvement of Siberia and the Urals.
      1. +8
        26 December 2013 14: 03
        Interestingly, the Siberians and the Urals will agree? What beautification, if their hands grow from what they are sitting on, because besides trade, for the most part, they don’t know how to do a damn thing, and the Uzbek janitors will not go to the rally from the building, they need to work, otherwise they’ll get fired.
        1. +3
          26 December 2013 15: 42
          Quote: ele1285
          Interestingly, the Siberians and the Urals will agree? What beautification, if their hands grow from what they are sitting on, because besides trade, for the most part, they don’t know how to do a damn thing, and the Uzbek janitors will not go to the rally from the building, they need to work, otherwise they’ll get fired.

          Let them stay in Moscow if there is no money to send them to the Arctic or to Maidan.
          East of the Urals is not necessary. And then our educated, spoil.
          1. 0
            26 December 2013 16: 06
            No, Vasily, we don’t need them either. And it’s a pity for polar bears, they’ll suddenly start bananas too. You don’t want to go to your business, send them business or anything else. Notice not for the money, but for free they give them away. WHOLESALE MILLION .Sell I do not want.
    8. +3
      26 December 2013 14: 21
      Yes, it is not our money that matters, but the money that someone pays for all this. If the USSR had been, there would be no money for these shares. Can't pass Cardon! Give the USSR! Give the "iron" curtain! We lived quieter then.
    9. 0
      26 December 2013 20: 00
      they wanted to be thuja, burped, animals, one troupe of the Caucasian, this is one of seven Slavs, and you need to humiliate you barefoot
    10. EGORKA
      +1
      26 December 2013 22: 17
      There is no reason for such a rally. Islamophobia? And who is to blame? Islamic radicals and terrorists, phobias do not arise out of the blue. Caucasusophobia? the same thing, most visitors from the Caucasus behave in such a way that they cause the same phobias. The rally will not help here, but it will only aggravate everything and this cannot be misunderstood, hence the conclusion that some forces want to provoke under a plausible excuse. there are no religious infringements, but do not forget that Russia is a secular state and, for example, talking about wearing hedgehogs in educational institutions is ridiculous, firstly we are a secular state, and secondly, Muslims in Russia and the Caucasus never wore hedgehogs and talk about it it’s ridiculous to raise it. They want to eradicate Islamophobia-flag in their hands and eradicate its cause, radical terrorists, in advance.
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  3. vlad0
    +23
    26 December 2013 08: 33
    It is doubtful about the rally, and about a million. But the very fact of such "stuffing" is already alarming. Reminds me of probing public opinion before some planned event.
    1. Fin
      +6
      26 December 2013 09: 38
      And let them go out, show themselves, maybe then the authorities will see that there is nowhere to chew on the snot and will begin to work. It is strange that for no apparent reason they want to show their strength. All this can lead to opposite results.
      In 2012, the coordinator of the “Left Front” and one of the organizers of the “swamp movement” in Moscow Sergey Udaltsov and the leader of the Tatar nationalist movement “Azatlyk” Nail Nabiullin exchanged statements in support of each other.

      And this one is not far off where he’s climbing, for mass, he’s ready to unite with anyone. Well, well, an extra article can be hung.
      1. +3
        26 December 2013 14: 37
        Quote: Fin
        And let them go, show themselves,

        And with what fright, let them go out, they didn’t sow this land, this is OUR land, and there’s nothing to do any evil spirits, and even with their demands. And they are not red girls to look at them. Let them look at us in the zoo on the other side of the cage when we are there on an excursion.
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          1. +2
            27 December 2013 00: 28
            Quote: Ptah
            Every little "hachenok"

            Listen bird! am Do you want to personally clash with me like that? Somehow I missed it what
            1. striker
              +1
              27 December 2013 01: 02
              Soul mates felt?
              1. +1
                27 December 2013 01: 30
                Quote: striker
                Soul mates felt?

                You to whom? what
              2. .Umar.
                -2
                27 December 2013 03: 52
                striker

                And if you put the vessels and the photo of the pig, you will feel a soul mate, but I won’t do it, I’m not so low and miserable as you, it’s not the picture that upsets me, but the fact that some people have gone so low!
                1. striker
                  +1
                  27 December 2013 12: 38
                  be ashamed of your fellow tribesmen who have fallen to the level of monkeys, UmaR

                  and put the picture with the pig on your bedside table
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                    1. .Umar.
                      0
                      27 December 2013 16: 53
                      Umar

                      I mean they sleep in a puddle, so I don’t need a ban!
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          2. +1
            27 December 2013 00: 42
            Quote: Ptah
            Every little "hachenok"
            Climbing out of the diapers ...
            .../obscene expressions.
            Removed word-filter /

            In every little "khachenka"
            And the boy and the girl
            There are three hundred grams of explosives,
            Or even a pound.

            He wants to "jerk lezginka"
            To jump around Moscow with a dagger,
            Otherwise, it will explode -
            Fucking broads. The attack on the subway.

            I never hid my actions or my thoughts request Your opus was sent to Vadim Smirnov personally by me. If as a result of my complaint you are sent to a ban, then ... I have the honor soldier
    2. 0
      26 December 2013 15: 47
      Quote: vlad0
      It is doubtful about the rally, and about a million. But the very fact of such "stuffing" is already alarming. Reminds me of probing public opinion before some planned event.

      I agree, but ..
      Before the Olympics 80 Moscow was cleaned.
      Now it is also necessary. Moreover, Moscow is the main transit point.
      And the Maidan must be shown HOW this is done.
      Generally burned you all. Scoundrel.
  4. +18
    26 December 2013 08: 38
    Another visit to the rocking of the "Russian boat". With "swamp" failed, now they decided to probe through the national-religious. This must be nipped in the bud!
    1. +5
      26 December 2013 09: 36
      Quote: askort154
      Another visit to the rocking of the "Russian boat". With "swamp" failed, now they decided to probe through the national-religious. This must be nipped in the bud!

      I don’t understand one thing, they say that organizations from Central Asia and others will join. Is it that a rally in Russia is being obtained by the hands of migrants from other countries? I think it is necessary to promptly penetrate the visa regime with these states, although there is the problem of the Eurasian Economic Community and the Customs Union. It seems to me even as a response to recent events about plans to include Armenia and Kyrgyzstan in the union. And at the expense of nat. there is no discord and any phobias of them in Russia, except for little things and then on a household basis. The wind blows we all know where, we need to take countermeasures, as an option to collapse the dollar in all possible ways.
      1. +11
        26 December 2013 10: 25
        Quote: INTER
        organizations from Central Asia and others will join in. Is this what turns out to be a rally in Russia by the hands of migrants from other countries?

        This is the whole "trick"! The scenario with the use of our opposition did not work - they gave it to the horns. Now they are trying to play the national card, and to enhance the effect, the Asians were also brought up. These are signs that McCain was not in vain chatting about the imminent arrival of the "Arab" spring in Russia. Our authorities need to decide who they are - with their own people or with crowds of insolent nationals and guest workers.
        1. Yarosvet
          +2
          26 December 2013 15: 13
          Quote: IRBIS
          The scenario with the use of our opposition did not pass - they gave in horns. Now they are trying to play the national card, and to strengthen the effect, they also pulled Asians

          Does the FSB drive teas again? laughing

          But what about Putin, who is probably the most influential in the world? He is influential only in the world, but not in the Russian Federation - do I understand correctly? laughing
          1. +2
            26 December 2013 16: 54
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Does the FSB drive teas again?

            Pay attention to the time of the promotion. Eve of the Olympics, this is where the main focus and strength. And any forceful action will cause an explosion of "righteous" anger in the world. The script is thought out to the smallest detail, you must agree ...
            1. Yarosvet
              +3
              26 December 2013 19: 17
              Quote: IRBIS
              agree ...
              I can not.
              There is either a complete discrepancy between the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc. (up to the first persons), or deliberate escalation by the authorities themselves.

              Our top leadership is responsible for anything at all, or is the State Department always guilty by definition?
      2. 0
        26 December 2013 15: 54
        Quote: INTER
        Quote: askort154
        Another visit to the rocking of the "Russian boat". With "swamp" failed, now they decided to probe through the national-religious. This must be nipped in the bud!

        I don’t understand one thing, they say that organizations from Central Asia and others will join. Is it that a rally in Russia is being obtained by the hands of migrants from other countries? I think it is necessary to promptly penetrate the visa regime with these states, although there is the problem of the Eurasian Economic Community and the Customs Union. It seems to me even as a response to recent events about plans to include Armenia and Kyrgyzstan in the union. And at the expense of nat. there is no discord and any phobias of them in Russia, except for little things and then on a household basis. The wind blows we all know where, we need to take countermeasures, as an option to collapse the dollar in all possible ways.

        It is necessary to connect Kazakhstan to close their borders.
    2. Yarosvet
      -11
      26 December 2013 15: 10
      Quote: askort154
      Another visit to the rocking of the "Russian boat". With "swamp" failed, now they decided to probe through the national-religious.
      Well, how else ...
  5. +5
    26 December 2013 08: 38
    According to the organizers, up to a million people will come to the demonstration.
    Well let them come .. bully There will be a reason to conduct a mass sweep in Russia .. bully
    1. +3
      26 December 2013 09: 09
      MIKHAN .... There will be a reason to conduct a mass sweep in Russia.

      And to load them not on buses, but to prepare several train trains and without stops Moscow-Kolyma, and already there to conduct trials with them. And if we start playing democracy, we will get "chichnyu-2", in the center of the country. The West and the offended Arab world for Syria coincide.
      1. 0
        26 December 2013 09: 42
        Quote: askort154
        And to load them not into buses, but to prepare several train trains and without stopping Moscow-Kolyma

        What for? It is necessary to find reasons and solve problems, instead of excuses and one-time events. Do not remember the howl of the liberals in the 90s and how they speculated in repressions? Be prudent and cold in solving problems, emotions are unnecessary here!
      2. Airman
        0
        26 December 2013 09: 57
        Quote: askort154
        MIKHAN .... There will be a reason to conduct a mass sweep in Russia.

        And to load them not on buses, but to prepare several train trains and without stops Moscow-Kolyma, and already there to conduct trials with them. And if we start playing democracy, we will get "chichnyu-2", in the center of the country. The West and the offended Arab world for Syria coincide.

        Yes, a million will need hundreds of compounds.
        1. +6
          26 December 2013 10: 18
          Quote: Povshnik
          Yes, a million will need hundreds of compounds


          No, if you load in cars for lightweights while standing, but hundreds of three echelons will be needed, and on the final, somewhere near Vorkuta, under a bulldozer and all things drinks
          1. 0
            26 December 2013 14: 36
            The wagon carries 60 tons. the average person is 80 kg. 60 / 000 = 80 people. Composition of up to 750 wagons, take 80 wagons. 60 * 60 = 750 people. 45 / 000 = 1 composition. Throw 000 composition. only 000 compounds
            1. +3
              26 December 2013 15: 25
              Quote: Alexandr73
              1 / 000 = 000 composition. Throw 45 composition. only 000 compounds

              Another 80 percent of the police, FSB, BB and UFSIN will need to be involved. SES and MOE to the heap. Who didn’t I mention?
              In short, the work is endless.
              This is against the backdrop of the latest amnesty and other pressing troubles.
              Kabzda, in a word, the Russian economy. Again a dead end in the decision. They did it, damn it with the "friendship of peoples".
              More precisely - ACHIEVED IN INTERNATIONALISM ....
            2. 0
              26 December 2013 21: 25
              Quote: Alexandr73
              The wagon carries 60 tons. the average person is 80 kg. 60 / 000 = 80 people. Composition of up to 750 wagons, take 80 wagons. 60 * 60 = 750 people. 45 / 000 = 1 composition. Throw 000 composition. only 000 compounds


              Well, let's do this with migrants, but what about those who are citizens of the Russian Federation?
              1. +3
                26 December 2013 22: 15
                Let me answer.
                I myself observed dog training in one of the clubs. They line up, bring out the one that has already mastered some command perfectly. In front of the others, this command is carried out. Then they take the dog out of order and start to bullshit it. With "stick" and "carrot", of course. The rest can see, and believe me, the results are impressive. It also saves a lot of time if you dealt with each one separately.
                Do you think that when the "citizens of the Russian Federation" see "boarding the wagons" they will not think about their future fate? Even living in territories that historically do not belong to them.
                It would be started ...
      3. 0
        26 December 2013 14: 23
        Quote: askort154
        several train trains and without stops Moscow-Kolyma,

        In Kolyma, by the way, there are no roads! so they will have to be transported to a dead end on the road, from Tynda to Yakutsk (somewhere up to half is built) and then let them build forward to Yakutsk, then to Magadan, and then to Chersk (mouth of the Kolyma).
      4. 0
        26 December 2013 16: 05
        Quote: askort154
        MIKHAN .... There will be a reason to conduct a mass sweep in Russia.

        And to load them not on buses, but to prepare several train trains and without stops Moscow-Kolyma, and already there to conduct trials with them. And if we start playing democracy, we will get "chichnyu-2", in the center of the country. The West and the offended Arab world for Syria coincide.

        DO NOT TRAIN TO Magadan Oblast. Learn the geography of your home country
        1. +1
          26 December 2013 18: 21
          let them go on foot, why pamper?
  6. +14
    26 December 2013 08: 39
    The Caucasian rally in Moscow, the onset of Wahhabism in Tatarstan and the need to revive the "Russian project" Wahhabism is doing what the power allows it. Without the "Russian project" Russia will fall to pieces - my opinion. Money does not put out a fire, it will continue to smolder.
    1. +13
      26 December 2013 09: 09
      Quote: os9165
      Without the "Russian project" Russia will fall to pieces - my opinion. Money does not put out a fire, it will continue to smolder.

      If it is only a "project", then it will not solve anything. It is necessary to restore the RUSSIAN PEOPLE. Unfortunately, most Russians don't understand this. I'm afraid, as has often happened in history, understanding will come through severe trials.
      1. Jin
        +9
        26 December 2013 09: 54
        Quote: Orik
        Unfortunately, most Russians do not understand this.


        Most Russians understand this! It seems that the authorities do not understand this !!!!!
        1. stroporez
          +5
          26 December 2013 11: 28
          Quote: Jin
          It seems that the authorities do not understand this !!!!!
          --- Does she need it ??
          1. Jin
            +3
            26 December 2013 12: 48
            Quote: stroporez
            --- Does she need it ??


            If "she doesn't need it," then all this will end sadly in the end ... and for the authorities, too, sooner or later. "No matter how long the string twists, the end will still be ..."
        2. +2
          26 December 2013 13: 09
          Where are children? Children of those Russians who "understand"? All around the cries that "there is no money" and "why breed poverty." Asians have even less money and one fig breed, but we do not have enough people, and give people the entire level of consumption.
        3. Yarosvet
          +7
          26 December 2013 15: 17
          Quote: Jin
          It seems that the authorities do not understand this !!!! [/ b]!

          Power is so dull ...
          1. Jin
            +2
            26 December 2013 20: 28
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Power is so dull ...

            + good At 10, a colleague ... laughter through tears ...
      2. +7
        26 December 2013 10: 29
        Quote: os9165
        The Caucasian rally in Moscow, the onset of Wahhabism in Tatarstan and the need to revive the "Russian project" Wahhabism is doing what the power allows it. Without the "Russian project" Russia will fall to pieces - my opinion. Money does not put out a fire, it will continue to smolder.

        Quote: Orik

        If it is only a "project", then it will not solve anything. It is necessary to restore the RUSSIAN PEOPLE. Unfortunately, most Russians don't understand this. I'm afraid, as has often happened in history, understanding will come through severe trials.


        True write, absolutely true!
        If the current elite gets down to business, it will be just a "project" and the creation of visibility.
      3. 0
        26 December 2013 13: 23
        Orik (1) SU Today, 09:09
        Yes, come on, you will rally and disperse ... the main thing is to be organized .. If you forbid and disperse even more howling will be ..
        So the Jews celebrate Hanukkah and nothing ..
        ....... .. Jewish wisdom says: "A little light is enough to dispel great darkness." .
        November 28 (date for 2013) This year is celebrated from December 25.
        Hanukkah is a Jewish holiday of candles that are lit in honor of the miracle that occurred during the consecration of the Temple after the victory of the army of Yehuda Maccabee over the troops of King Antiochus in 164 BC.
        http://www.calend.ru/holidays/0/0/626/
        Premiere. "The ceremony of presenting the annual prize of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia" Fiddler on the Roof ". Hanukkah at the State Kremlin Palace.
        NTV World December 28, Saturday 23 10-01 30
        http://www.ntvmir.ntv.ru/pages/rus/tvschedule?date=28.12.2013
        ... judging by the advertising, a very good concert and famous people of Russia ..
        These are all the peoples of united Russia ...
        1. orient
          +3
          26 December 2013 19: 22
          How old are you that you believe that it will "resolve itself"?
  7. Warrawar
    +15
    26 December 2013 08: 39
    Tolerasts and multinationals, see what you are turning the country into.
  8. predator.3
    +2
    26 December 2013 08: 44
    A rally against xenophobia and Islamophobia is planned on January 26 at Manezhnaya Square. According to the organizers, up to a million people will come to the demonstration.


    Survived! So much for the result of the economic and national policies of our liberal government!
  9. Jack7691
    +18
    26 December 2013 08: 44
    Finally there is at least one machine gun?
    Especially the geeks from Central Asia wanted rights - they broke up at home, failed to become bays, went to the invaders. And they wanted some kind of rights! I suggest everyone to send to the construction of an airfield in the Arctic - closer to the North Pole.
    1. +10
      26 December 2013 08: 48
      Quote: Jack7691
      I suggest everyone to send to the construction of an airfield in the Arctic - closer to the North Pole.

      Approximately like this:
      1. +7
        26 December 2013 08: 53
        Quote: GreatRussia

        Approximately like this:

        They’re going well, so much fun. Welcome to Russia. laughing
        1. series
          +1
          26 December 2013 09: 31
          than the "Moscow parade" of the Germans in the 44th reminds, as I remember, like this ... bully
      2. +2
        26 December 2013 12: 02
        Well, the right organization !!!! and no transport))) on foot and to the music ... and remembering the history of the Russian Empire, we have people for three years only in stages reached the prisons (geography))) ... and prepare them all for a walk
    2. +4
      26 December 2013 08: 51
      Quote: Jack7691
      Finally there is at least one machine gun?

      That is, machine guns, but no order request
      1. A.YARY
        +5
        26 December 2013 09: 10
        but there is no order
        Alexandra why no order? Well, not a machine gunjust for the total expulsion of immigrants disturbing the peace of the citizens of the country ?!
        1. +2
          26 December 2013 09: 44
          Quote: A.YARY
          just for the total expulsion of immigrants disturbing the peace of the citizens of the country ?!

          + With a lifetime denial of entry into our country!
        2. Airman
          +5
          26 December 2013 10: 05
          Quote: A.YARY
          but there is no order
          Alexandra why no order? Well, not a machine gunjust for the total expulsion of immigrants disturbing the peace of the citizens of the country ?!


          And where did you see the chicken laying golden eggs killed? It is easier to get rid of those who encroach on this chicken.
          1. A.YARY
            0
            26 December 2013 10: 09
            viacheslav
            And where did you see the chicken laying golden eggs killed?
            Who is carrying?! What and how many eggs ?!
            Surnames and places of work!
            1. Airman
              +7
              26 December 2013 11: 08
              Quote: A.YARY
              viacheslav
              And where did you see the chicken laying golden eggs killed?
              Who is carrying?! What and how many eggs ?!
              Surnames and places of work!


              Golden Chicken are migrants who lay golden eggs for their EMPLOYERS. And you know their names and places of work. Or do you have no migrants in Sochi?
              1. A.YARY
                +6
                26 December 2013 14: 36
                Vyacheslav
                And you know their names and places of work. Or do you have no migrants in Sochi?

                This led, thanks for helping!
                And now INFORM:
                In my city at the moment there is a big shortage of construction workers! Oh how!
                And it happened in two days! Oh how!
                They sent not only immigrants, but also those citizens of RUSSIA who are from KUBAN! Oh how !!!
                I asked a friend from the Ministry of Internal Affairs - how so?
                He answered, "THERE WAS A TEAM" !!!!
                Znachittsa EVERYTHING that immigrants and other local rabble allow themselves is beneficial for those who give these commands !!! FACT!
                The question is, who gives commands to those who give commands ??? Especially on the OLYMPIC CAPITAL ???
                Who so desired this Olympics ???
                Who is here glavnyuk ???
                Here visitors to the site come from Moscow (they are close to them), hi mustache at the entogo glavnyuk and ask, "And what are you dear cholovik, you poured into the gold-headed and ORTHODOX CAPITAL, all sorts of infidels and foreigners, but you let them brawl with impunity ???"



                1. +1
                  26 December 2013 16: 14
                  Quote: A.YARY
                  They sent not only immigrants, but also those citizens of RUSSIA who are from KUBAN! Oh how !!!

                  The contract is over - home.
                  There is a contract - work.
                  Work - pay taxes.
            2. +3
              26 December 2013 11: 16
              Quote: A.YARY
              Who is carrying?! What and how many eggs ?!
              Surnames and places of work!

              In vain you asked this question, the air defense worker does not answer such questions laughing
        3. +4
          26 December 2013 11: 15
          Quote: A.YARY
          ALEXANDER and why there is no order?

          If I were the president, then the order would have been yesterday, but you will vote for me, and therefore blame only yourself hi
          1. A.YARY
            +3
            26 December 2013 14: 58
            ALEXANDER
            you will vote for me

            Now I'm , until all promises with the dates of fulfillment are recorded as a legal document of immediate effect (failed to fulfill, get from the throne to the link), in elections, I’ll put a tick against all the daws!
            And if you are Alexander ready for such a step-fit-support.
            1. 0
              26 December 2013 16: 18
              Quote: A.YARY
              ALEXANDER
              you will vote for me

              Now I'm , until all promises with the dates of fulfillment are recorded as a legal document of immediate effect (failed to fulfill, get from the throne to the link), in elections, I’ll put a tick against all the daws!
              And if you are Alexander ready for such a step-fit-support.

              I will always put the pros for you.
              Will you vote for me?
              And you write me the election program.
              I can even promise that you are the prime minister.
              And where will you exile?
        4. 0
          26 December 2013 16: 11
          Quote: A.YARY
          but there is no order
          Alexandra why no order? Well, not a machine gunjust for the total expulsion of immigrants disturbing the peace of the citizens of the country ?!

          If they are not brought up in your region, then these are the problems of the inhabitants of your region (weaklings).
          They normally work for us, they don’t excite, they give way, they apologize, etc.
    3. 0
      27 December 2013 09: 57
      Again, we raise the population of white bears due to increased nutrition.
  10. +4
    26 December 2013 08: 50
    This is their response to sweeping markets and warehouses. So they defended correctly. Now I would send all these years to 10 from Russia to my homeland ...
    1. A.YARY
      +6
      26 December 2013 09: 13
      Boris55
      10 years from Russia

      Oh no !!! Not ten but for life and three generations ahead !!! At least!
    2. Yarosvet
      +3
      26 December 2013 15: 23
      Quote: Boris55
      Now I would send all these years to 10 from Russia to my homeland ...
      1. Anatoly. RUS
        +4
        26 December 2013 18: 43
        Why does everyone think that Putin is good, and they say: it was not he who ruined the country. That's when E.B. it was bad, but everyone forgets. In 1995, the price of oil was 15-16 dollars per barrel.
        In 91-92 - 8-9 dollars per barrel.
        The price of producing a barrel of oil in the Emirates: 4-6 dollars, in Russia 13-14 dollars.
        in 2000, the price was about $ 30 per barrel
        Thus, at the beginning (before the middle of the term) of Yeltsin’s presidency, oil production was unprofitable. and it became noticeably profitable only at the very end of its term in 98-99. Nevertheless, industrial growth has been steady since 1995, and in 1999 amounted to 9%, in 2000, after Putin came in - about 6%, despite the fact that the price of oil rose another XNUMX times.
        Thus, Yeltsin handed over the country to Putin during a period of economic growth and favorable conditions for energy prices. Therefore, we have everything

        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/082/zdeo324.jpg
        1. Yarosvet
          +3
          26 December 2013 19: 05
          Quote: Anatoly. RUS
          Why does everyone think that Putin is good, and they say: it was not he who ruined the country
          1. +4
            26 December 2013 19: 21
            Greetings, Yarosvet!
            You, a kind of lazy person, have forgotten the writing, everything with pictures, that is, "you beat with visual agitation." laughing
            On your "card" I have KOZYRNA -
            Swing rights in Fritzland.
            1. Yarosvet
              +1
              26 December 2013 22: 58
              Quote: Ptah
              Swing rights in Fritzland.

              So let him swing, since the Nemer love it ... But only tama laughing
  11. +11
    26 December 2013 08: 50
    All these actions are similar to ... "Let the pig sit at the table and legs on the table."
  12. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +5
    26 December 2013 08: 52
    the need to revive the "Russian project"


    Bullshit. It will only begin to cause rejection. It is necessary to revive the nation. Abroad, we are still all Russian. After 2 empire collapsed. Those nations that have remained with the Russian Federation are the most reliable. This means that the Russian Federation should become a edrom, a MONOLITHIC NATION consisting of many peoples. These peoples, like New Year's toys, are hung on a Christmas tree (Russian people), but they should not hang on their necks but should be decorated and complemented. This is our strength. At the second stage, it is necessary to create a confederate state formation with the Eurasian former imperial provinces. Like Belarus Belarus (if they want) so much stronger. In the future, even Finland (their nationalists are also not opposed belay ) Why am I talking about creating a nation? Because if the new 3 empire collapses, it should ALWAYS remain ostoro from where everything will start again. For this, Caucasians, Tatars, Finno-Ugric peoples must realize that they are ONE NATION. They must understand why they are together and what causes the collapse of the nation. Themselves must be aware.
    1. +4
      26 December 2013 09: 01
      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
      It is necessary to revive the nation.

      It is necessary to revive such a concept as civilization. There is Western, Eastern and there is Russian civilization. Everyone understands conversations about a nation according to his nation, and this cannot be canceled by any decree or decree.
      Replace the word nation with civilization in your post and I will agree with you.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        +3
        26 December 2013 09: 18
        It is necessary to revive such a concept as civilization. There is Western, Eastern and there is Russian civilization. Everyone understands conversations about a nation according to his nation, and this cannot be canceled by any decree or decree.
        Replace the word nation with civilization in your post and I will agree with you.


        Here's how you races and shit, the more you like it or not, but the Russian Federation is also the West, but different. And yes, there is no Chechen or Tatar nation. There are Tatars as a people included in the single Russian nation. By the type of Rome (we are the direct heir if cho) "WE are all Romans." Speaking of civilizations. In the EU we are not expecting this automatic loss of the power of the miserable local elites, plus the loss of control over the EU states, well, China is also not profitable. Therefore, we have 2 ways either to create our own Euroazes house (preferably in the form of a confederation) or force (if necessary by force) to merge with Europe, but under our control. What path is needed will show only time and not mine and your wishlist. Because the story is not bad and not good, it is what it is and any event, even negative from the point of view of a person, has its own meaning and its long-lasting consequences. The main thing is not to screw up. Because the Russian Federation must survive at any cost! If for this it is necessary to exterminate all people on earth, then so be it. No sentimentality is the most important for the nation of the Russian Federation, there is nothing higher than it!
        1. -20
          26 December 2013 09: 41
          Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
          ... The main thing is not to screw up ...

          In the passport, the nationality column was canceled 20 years ago, so what? Everyone forgot who they are?
          If you forgot that beyond the borders of Muscovy all lands were annexed by force,
          then the affiliates did not forget this. The navel will not untie its power to keep within modern boundaries?


          And if every Russian remembers the nation of his ancestors - what will you do?



          The nation is:
          - a historically established sustainable community of people,
          - arising on the basis of a common language,
          - territory, economic life and mental warehouse,
          - manifested in a common culture.

          Only by fulfilling all these conditions without exception and without highlighting anyone can Russia be kept within its current borders.
          All actions directed against these definitions lead to the destruction of the state.
          1. Nikolay D.
            0
            26 December 2013 11: 19
            Quote: Boris55
            then the affiliates did not forget this.


            Sorry of course, but you’re talking nonsense right now, in the place of the moderators, I would think of a bathhouse for inciting and dividing the Russian Federation.
            1. -3
              26 December 2013 11: 44
              Quote: Nikolai D.
              Sorry of course, but you’re talking nonsense right now, in the place of the moderators, I would think of a bathhouse for inciting and dividing the Russian Federation.

              It is precisely those who speak of the nation that fuel ethnic hatred.
              I say that on nationalism a single state cannot be built.
              Read my posts in general, and do not tear out what you want.
              The multinational Russian state can be united only as a civilization.
              Not understanding and denying this leads to the destruction of Russia. Its transformation into the likeness of Africa with many specific principalities fighting against everyone and all to the delight of our enemies.
              1. Nikolay D.
                -1
                26 December 2013 11: 49
                Quote: Boris55
                It is precisely those who speak of the nation that fuel ethnic hatred.



                But you wrote: "The nationality in the passport was canceled 20 years ago, so what? Everyone has forgotten who they are?";

                Also incitement: "If you forgot that beyond the borders of Muscovy all the lands were annexed by force, then the annexed did not forget it";

                Division of the Russian Federation: "The navel will not be untied by force to keep them within modern borders?"

                And stirring up and sharing together: "And if every Russian remembers the nation of his ancestors - what will you do?"
                1. -4
                  26 December 2013 11: 54
                  Quote: Nikolai D.
                  Have you ever read your previous post?

                  I not only read it, but also wrote it. And I wrote it Alexey Prikazchikov on his post trying to clarify him what his craving for nationalism can lead to. What are the consequences.
                  1. Nikolay D.
                    +2
                    26 December 2013 11: 59
                    Quote: Boris55
                    I not only read it, but also wrote it.


                    I apologize for this comment. Perhaps I am biased towards you, but your cards and their rationale contribute.
              2. +1
                26 December 2013 13: 14
                But why do you need Central Asia in Russia? There is no ethnic, cultural, or religious community with them.
              3. +2
                26 December 2013 21: 49
                Nothing like this. Until 1917, Russia was a Russian Orthodox state, was strong if we were united and did not support the dubious opposition, we would break through. Otherwise, we Russians will disappear, Russians are proud of themselves. Do not be fooled by Putin’s nonsense that Russia is not for us, just for us, and all other nations are spinning in the orbit of a state-forming people.
            2. .Umar.
              0
              26 December 2013 23: 05
              Nikolai Sorry of course, but you’re talking nonsense now, if I were moderators, I would think of a bathhouse for inciting and dividing the Russian Federation.

              Hhahaha, true eyes prick yes! laughing Boris presented everything correctly!
        2. +1
          26 December 2013 10: 59
          Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
          By the type of Rome (we are the direct heir if cho) "WE are all Romans."

          To school .... to learn history. There they will tell you what happened to Rome.
          1. -1
            26 December 2013 11: 05
            It was destroyed by corruption, poverty, a rotten system. I do not see the words "separatism" and "nationalism".
            1. Nikolay D.
              0
              26 December 2013 11: 24
              Quote: Basileus
              I do not see the words "separatism" and "nationalism".


              It's called "Stop the thief!"
            2. 0
              26 December 2013 12: 28
              Quote: Basileus
              It was destroyed by corruption, poverty, a rotten system. I do not see the words "separatism" and "nationalism".

              Are you talking about in the first sentence a case not about Russia?
              Rome collapsed as a result of the fact that the state ceased to be national. Freedmen, former slaves and their descendants were admitted to the structures of government. The elites of the once conquered peoples moved to the metropolis but remained precisely the national elites - not the Romans. Those, whose blood the empire was created - the warriors, after the end of the service received land in the provinces and gradually turned into tax-paying peasants, on whose taxes the authorities cheered. Everyone began to live "for themselves." The birth rate has dropped. The legions began to recruit foreigners, for whom Rome was an "occupier" and enslaver. The moment has come when the state has become useless to anyone; neither corrupted patricians, nor war veterans crushed by taxes, nor ethnoelites, nor foreign legionnaires. And Rome collapsed. Under the onslaught of those whom the Roman national legions under the leadership of the Roman national elite in the era of the formation and heyday of Rome crushed to dust. Rome collapsed entirely, without any separatism, from the fact that it renounced nationalism in favor of internationalism and tolerance ..

              Nothing like that?
            3. +1
              26 December 2013 13: 02
              A rotten formation is when slaves do everything for you, when mercenaries fight, and the army sits on garrisons and decays when debauchery of any kind is allowed, when national self-identification is lost.
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    2. Field
      0
      26 December 2013 09: 51
      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
      For this, Caucasians, Tatars, Finno-Ugric peoples must realize that they are ONE NATION


      With Tatars 50/50, Finno-Ugric peoples (in Russia) - 90% consider themselves Russian

      I am silent about Caucasians, they are "sad" although not all wink
    3. +4
      26 December 2013 10: 52
      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov


      Bullshit.......
      Caucasians, Tatars, Finno-Ugric must realize that they are ONE NATION.


      Really - nonsense. The new nation is Caucasotatarofinougorsk. A mixture of a bulldog with a rhino. And this nation will live in the Caucasus Tatarofenugorii. Where it is - I don’t know. I know for sure that it’s not in Russia and I know that in this miraculous nation and country there is no place for Russians
      1. dmb
        0
        26 December 2013 13: 49
        Hello Vladimir, before reading your discussion with Prikazchikov, I considered your comment to be perhaps the most sane. But in this case, he is more right than you. Do you have a plan for the re-establishment of a single community in Russia, please voice its specific points and specific measures for their implementation. As you yourself understand, "machine guns" "cars to Magadan" and other measures proposed by the revived "fighters against infidels" exist only in their fevered imagination. Power, as you rightly noted. they will not be used, and the "fighters" themselves are not in a position to demand a ban from the authorities, to brazenly steal their money from utilities, what can we say about "machine guns". And I agree with Prikazchikov in the essence of his proposal, only it will be called not a nation, but a community - the Soviet people. however, the name is a real deal. By the way, "Russians", the most acceptable because it sounds familiar in Russian. It's just that now it is causing rejection, because it is associated with the name of the All-Russian bogus who destroyed Russia because of his stupidity, greed and excessive ambition.
        1. +1
          27 December 2013 01: 41
          Quote: dmb
          Hello Vladimir,

          Hello Dmitry.
          I am aware that you stand on the position of internationalism and do not share your views on the national question. Let me stay with my opinion.
          Quote: dmb
          You have a plan for the reconstruction of a single community in Russia, please state its specific points and specific measures for their implementation.

          Unfortunately, I do not have a coherent plan. There are concrete proposals, but there is a feeling that neither I, nor you, nor those in power can change anything dramatically. The process is global and cannot be controlled; in any case, we are not controlled by those whom we see as heads of state or government. Russia is just one of the territories where the process of the destruction of national states and the creation of a single, global, international state under the control of representatives of famous people takes place.
          You want, but I am against.
          1. dmb
            +2
            27 December 2013 11: 32
            You see, Vladimir, I stand on the positions of internationalism not for reasons of notorious tolerance or my own orthodoxy, but because I see no other way out for creating a single community in our country. And without this community there will be no country. In addition, I already wrote earlier that this very national hatred is incited by representatives of the ruling class, among whom are mainly representatives of the people you know. So who benefits from Manezhki? I think to Putin and Potanin, Yakunin and Vekselberg, Kerimov and Deripaska. What did we get as a result of this performance? Has Allah started giving less money to Kadyrov? Chubais finally "sat down"? Does Shoigu have a wife, a billionaire, paid taxes?
    4. holderrr
      +1
      26 December 2013 17: 55
      about Caucasians most not funny. what did you write ?. They were not with us at the same time and never will be! Oranges are not born from aspen. How many wolves do not feed - he looks into the forest.
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  13. +2
    26 December 2013 08: 54
    Hmmmmm !!!! ???? It will be cleaner than the MAIDAN in Kiev ... the goal is to provoke the nationalists .. to cause riots ... and off we go .. not a controlled crowd ... and then there will be blood ... !!!! T.K. The population is angry ... and all this will blaze "" ... will turn into a national conflict. Putin takes direct rule ... Ch.P. the waters of the troops ... echelons of covered wagons ... are being carried to the development of the North new "conquerors" .. And the result was born a new Stalin ... Hurray !!!! All KAYUK !!!!
    1. 0
      26 December 2013 12: 12
      if now the new Stalin has drifted away from somewhere, it would be a divine undertaking)))) but so far our country is not so lucky ..... read history, not Arguments and Facts .....
      1. .Umar.
        0
        26 December 2013 23: 18
        CHILD

        Hmmdaa, if there was now Stalin, he would have shot Muscovites in the first place! ..
        1. 0
          27 December 2013 00: 23
          in the first place, not Muscovites .... but I would clean Moscow ....))))))))))
          1. .Umar.
            -1
            27 December 2013 02: 03
            KIND

            No, Muscovites ... corrupt ...)
    2. +1
      27 December 2013 02: 37
      Quote: NIKAVIZ
      Hmmmmm !!!! ???? . And the result was a new Stalin ... Hurray !!!! KAYUK to everyone !!!!


      Well, why is it necessary to kayuk? After all, you are alive, we all, our ancestors from there, from that era, no one has died out.
  14. Captain Vrungel
    +22
    26 December 2013 08: 57
    As long as there is a type of "union of Tajik youth in Russia", the fifth column of Wahhabis, as long as they dictate the laws of Islam on Orthodox land, they will hold their meetings not on Manezhnaya Square, but on Red Square. And the stars on the Kremlin Towers will be replaced by crescents. Imagine that you are going to hold a Christian meeting in the capital of Saudi Arabia with your demands. You will be persecuted with stones and truncheons by the police with cries of the whole world about the infidels' attempt on the holy teachings and Allah. We came to Russia of our own free will, so live by the laws and traditions. I have one question. That they all scatter, like cockroaches and rats, to Christian countries to the infidels with their land consecrated by Allah. This is what wild capitalism brings, when everyone rushed after material values, forgetting about spiritual ones, this niche was instantly filled with radical Islam and cheap vulgar pop music. I don't remember our church. She is more in business than faith.
    1. Warrawar
      +14
      26 December 2013 09: 08
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      That they all scatter, like cockroaches and rats, to Christian countries to the infidels with their land consecrated by Allah


      This is exactly

    2. +2
      26 December 2013 12: 55
      Bravo captain! good
    3. Nikolay D.
      +1
      26 December 2013 13: 40
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      We arrived in Russia of our own free will, so live by the laws and traditions.

      I remember there were incidents in Australia. They also began to impose their vision on politics in the country, and where they were immediately sent in political languages ​​to other countries where their views are shared.
    4. 0
      26 December 2013 16: 24
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      Imagine that you have gathered a Christian rally in the capital of Saudi Arabia to hold with your demands.

      It’s a pity I do not have a passport until
      And why exactly is it Christian? You can Muslims in Russia and Central Asia.
      And you can come up with a bunch of requirements.
      And then in defense of our citizens and troops you can enter.
      It’s time for the Saudis to introduce democracy
  15. Warrawar
    +2
    26 December 2013 08: 58
    By the way, Azatlyk (Liberty) is a party of Tatar separatists who advocate the separation of Tatarstan from Russia.
  16. -2
    26 December 2013 09: 01
    . And the result was a new Stalin ... Hurray !!!! KAYUK to everyone !!!! bully
  17. +1
    26 December 2013 09: 04
    Caucasian rally in Moscow,
    Will there be Cossacks? They seem to be Caucasians too)))
    1. Warrawar
      +1
      26 December 2013 09: 13
      Quote: bomg.77
      Will there be Cossacks? They seem to be Caucasians too)))

      No, they are not Caucasians.
      1. -1
        26 December 2013 09: 34
        Are Terek Cossacks a myth?
      2. -3
        26 December 2013 09: 37
        Quote: Warrawar
        No, they are not Caucasians.
        If not Caucasians? Kuban, Tersky, Don?
    2. Cossack23
      -2
      27 December 2013 00: 51
      yeah you still moved us to persia or to afghan
  18. +8
    26 December 2013 09: 10
    Finally, the masks will be dropped. For a long time they disguised themselves and shuffled around the vegetable bases. Wait for provocations, or the breakthrough of the cordon, after which not only the violators, but also everyone who signs for them, "pack" and - back to the auls. When you try to resist riot police, you should react appropriately. Who was there talking about the machine gun?
    1. series
      +1
      26 December 2013 10: 17
      and why to allow it ????????????
      no speaker can cool the hot southern blood (crowds) mixed with Asian urine that has hit his head ...
      Why do we need Russian Tahrir ????
      1. +2
        26 December 2013 10: 34
        Quote: S-200
        and why to allow it ????????????


        The rally is declared as peaceful and tolerant. Once the line is broken, it will be possible to press. For no reason, you know, the first to start a fight is not good ... winked
        1. series
          0
          26 December 2013 13: 11
          hi I think that in Moscow JANUARY there will be enough a dozen water cannons instead of machine guns ...
    2. Nikolay D.
      +1
      26 December 2013 11: 30
      Quote: Stiletto
      Wait for provocations, or the breakthrough of the cordon, after which not only the violators, but also everyone who signs for them, "pack" and - back to the auls.

      I think we need to deliver them to auls now, then only to labor camps - we will give the "Russian Arctic" for the first five years !.
  19. Dimkapvo
    +12
    26 December 2013 09: 10
    Survived. The worst thing that they will do if they have gathered, and our valiant police will guard them. And if the Russians want to hold a similar march in defense of their interests, they will disperse water cannons and break their hands. Fucking tolerance! S.uki.
  20. 0
    26 December 2013 09: 12
    So nationalists or Islamists? Turkic nationalists and pan-Turkists seem to be among the main enemies of the Caliphate)

    In general, I grab the cons, but what do the Russians want? That their Russian marches will remain without reaction? Or only Russians can be nationalists, but Tatars are not allowed? To me, for example, it is disgusting to read numerous comments about the "chock". Today Caucasians are lumps, tomorrow Tatars. And I am beginning to understand even the idealist scumbags from Azatlyk, at least their logic after such xenophobia on the Internet is clear.
    1. Clegg
      +4
      26 December 2013 09: 36
      Quote: Basileus
      Yurk nationalists and pan-Turkists seem to be among the main enemies of the Caliphate)

      Hi, that's for sure. At the expense of the union of Wahhabis and Tatar nationalists, this is a lie.

      Wahhabis a priori cannot be allies of nationalists. They are for the Muslim international.
    2. +4
      26 December 2013 10: 53
      Quote: Basileus
      In general, I grab the minuses, but what do the Russians want? That their Russian marches will remain without reaction? Or can only Russians be nationalists, and Tatars not?

      What are you doing? belay Some Russian nationalists, the first Russian march took place in 2005, when any trash in the vast expanses of the former USSR screamed for two decades that the Russians were invaders. They shouted and do not wake famously while it is quiet. A march is just flowers; you don’t understand the berries are too hot.
      But already in 1990, the opposition radical radical extremist wing stood out in the Tatar ethno-nationalist movement. The Ittifak Party of National Independence, the Tatar Youth Union Azatlyk (Liberty), and some other smaller organizations arose. TOC itself is also being radicalized. At that time, as a model for resolving ethno-state and ethno-cultural issues, they adopted the Estonian Popular Front program. These slogans were formulated with particular clarity in late 1991, when the collapse of the USSR entered its final phase: independence of Tatarstan as a state of Tatars; the creation of alternative authorities on an ethnic basis (“Milli Majlis” - “National Assembly”); the selectivity of granting citizenship of Tatarstan to residents of the republic (only to Tatars and those Russians who support Tatar national separatism).
      http://voprosik.net/tatarskie-separatisty-i-nacionalisty-analiz/
      1. -6
        26 December 2013 10: 59
        It is enough to read the comments of the Tatars, of which the nationalists are a few percent, and Russian, the xenophobic comments of which the overwhelming majority are here, to understand among whom the nationalists have great support. If in Bashkortostan the Natsiks are such clowns for the entertainment of the public, the rally of which gathers three and a half anonymus (in Tatarstan, most likely, I didn’t see photos where there would be more), then Russian marches gather at least hundreds. Information, so to speak, for consideration.

        And yes, the Russian Natsiks also appeared only in 2005?))
        1. +2
          26 December 2013 11: 45
          Quote: Basileus
          It is enough to read the comments of the Tatars, of which the nationalists are a few percent, and Russian, the xenophobic comments of which the overwhelming majority are here, to understand among whom the nationalists have great support.

          Fortunately, the majority of Russians are now purely mathematically.
          Quote: Basileus
          And yes, the Russian Natsiks also appeared only in 2005?))

          Those on the Russian march evoke complex feelings. Most of the nationalist leaders are friends with the special services. The behavior of young people is caused by a low level of culture, the humiliation of Russians for the past 25 years, Gaster workers take away work primarily from low-paid groups of the population, and the arrogance of Caucasians. If earlier I was definitely against it, then seeing how events are developing, I think let the Asians and Caucasians do not understand otherwise.
          1. +1
            26 December 2013 11: 47
            I mean the percentage of each, not the total)

            I understand the reasons. But going to marches and yelling slogans is the simplest and most ineffective solution.
            1. 0
              26 December 2013 16: 37
              Quote: Basileus
              I mean the percentage of each, not the total)
              I understand the reasons. But going to marches and yelling slogans is the simplest and most ineffective solution.

              I agree.
              Let them go to the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and serve, conquer the Russian world back (by law)
    3. +1
      26 December 2013 11: 35
      I don’t understand at all that they adhered to the Tatars ?. I’ve been living in Kazan for 16 years, I don’t feel any nationalism (well, maybe I can only go through the Tatar language with my son at school)! Most likely, the visitors set fire to the churches! They can come to any region! It’s just that there is more noise in Tatarstan! Here you have to catch it and from * they must!
    4. +4
      26 December 2013 13: 44
      It's nonsense to say "nationalist Islamists". If in my house the tenants begin to dictate to me which foot should I get up with? They didn't just come to hit the dengue. They want to live here. since we lived there. And now they already want us to live as they lived there.
    5. +1
      26 December 2013 16: 34
      Quote: Basileus
      So nationalists or Islamists? Turkic nationalists and pan-Turkists seem to be among the main enemies of the Caliphate)
      In general, I grab the cons, but what do the Russians want? That their Russian marches will remain without reaction? Or only Russians can be nationalists, but Tatars are not allowed? To me, for example, it is disgusting to read numerous comments about the "chock". Today Caucasians are lumps, tomorrow Tatars. And I am beginning to understand even the idealist scumbags from Azatlyk, at least their logic after such xenophobia on the Internet is clear.

      There are people who, regardless of nationality and religion, belong to Russian civilization and the Russian worldview. And there are others.
      THAT'S ALL.
      Other distinctions I do not understand.
      "Russian" Nazis are not Russians.
      The Poles are also Slavs, but EVERYONE hates them.
      Sometimes the so-called. "Churki" are more Russian than indigenous.
      Moscow is a branch of Israel, as only in 1940 Jews there, according to the census i.e. officially, over 400000 resided.
    6. holderrr
      +3
      26 December 2013 18: 08
      It is disgusting to read numerous .... What are the problems? In January, having raised the banner of Jihad against Manezhka by the head of the National Internal Affairs Department. It does not matter that millions of Basurmans illegally flooded the Russian land and slaughter and rape the indigenous population. I don't care that they brought us diseases that were forgotten 100 years ago. What kind of Russian allow themselves, brazenly and cynically to conduct, think about it !!!!!!!, RUSSIAN MARSHI !!! And yet these thugs are carrying out - RUSSIAN RUNS !!!! There was a feeling that the comment to which I am answering was written by the famous "Russophile" Alla Gerber.
  21. +1
    26 December 2013 09: 18
    From the very beginning, Christians were destroyed and persecuted, they did not resist, but in spite of this, more and more Christians became. Would Islam now exist if its followers lived on similar principles?
    1. -7
      26 December 2013 09: 21
      The Christians were persecuted because they were initially weak. But Christianity, with its promises of paradise through earthly suffering, relied on the mob and eventually began to dominate, and there the Christians already came off the Gentiles. Islam immediately captured Arabia and destroyed the superpower - Sassanian Iran.

      So the subjunctive mood is inappropriate here - each religion arose in due time due to certain premises.
    2. Cat
      +1
      26 December 2013 13: 30
      Quote: Alex66
      Christians were destroyed and persecuted from the very beginning, they did not resist

      laughing
      They did not resist so much that they got right up to Central Asia, Far East, Alaska and California (these are Orthodox). And the "unfortunate" Catholics and Protestants were herded into both America, Africa and Australia.
      Seriously, Western civilization itself has created a Muslim problem for itself, having given 80% of the world's oil reserves under the control of a handful of wild nomads.
  22. +6
    26 December 2013 09: 21
    the animals will hold a rally in Moscow ... survived. to ban and disperse all this riffraff - let them rally in Churkistan. their countries littered by the least indulge - now they came to us to spoil. it is necessary to tighten migration policy and to tighten very tightly.
  23. -23
    26 December 2013 09: 26
    Imagine that you have gathered a Christian rally in the capital of Saudi Arabia to hold with your demands. They will drive you with stones and batons of policemen with screams to the whole world about the attempt of the infidels on the holy teaching and Allah. We arrived in Russia of our own free will, so live by the laws and traditions. I have one question. That they all scatter, like cockroaches and rats, to Christian countries to the infidels with their land sanctified by Allah.

    This quote is from the message of some Vrungel, probably he is really a liar. Is Russia a Christian country?
    1. +1
      26 December 2013 09: 30
      Well, they think that Muslims do not live in Russia. I don't understand the Natsiks. They seem to shout "Russia for the Russians", but it seems that many are imperials. It's time to decide - to live in a Russian country, but smaller, or in Russia with all the nat. republics.
      1. Warrawar
        +5
        26 December 2013 09: 45
        Quote: Basileus
        Well, they think that Muslims do not live in Russia. I don't understand the Natsiks. They seem to shout "Russia for the Russians", but it seems that many are imperials. It's time to decide - to live in a Russian country, but smaller, or in Russia with all the nat. republics.

        In the future, live in a Russian country.
        1. +2
          26 December 2013 09: 46
          So separate the republic then, what is the problem? I don’t want to become Russian - it’s enough for me to be a Tatar and love Russia.
          1. Warrawar
            -1
            26 December 2013 09: 48
            Quote: Basileus
            So separate the republic then, what is the problem? I don’t want to become Russian - it’s enough for me to be a Tatar and love Russia.

            It is enough to observe the principles of federalism. The Russian Federation is a federal state in which there are Islamic republics, so hold your meetings in them, wear a burqa and live in width.
            Do you want to be Russian? Well, the Russians also do not want you to be Russian.
            But in the future, I do not see how the Russian Federation can continue to exist in its current form. Two incompatible cultures cannot coexist within one country, especially since the principles of federalism (the foundation of the Russian Federation) are not respected.
            It is necessary to raise the question of division, or at least the observance of the principles of federalism.
            1. +6
              26 December 2013 09: 54
              The principles of federalism have been a myth since Soviet times, when similar principles were declared. At present, Russia is a unitary state; it cannot exist in a different structure.

              And for such statements, they will be able to put us soon))
              1. Warrawar
                +5
                26 December 2013 09: 58
                Quote: Basileus
                Russia is a unitary state; it cannot exist in a different structure.

                Russia is not a unitary state, but a federal one. Federalism is a measure that allows you to combine different cultures within one state, on the condition of their non-interference in each other's lives.
                But it is precisely as a unitary state of the Russian Federation that cannot exist. Because there will always be a conflict of interests and attempts to impose an alien culture on someone, which will ultimately lead to clashes on national and religious grounds with the prospect of the collapse of the state. And these processes can be observed now.
                1. 0
                  26 December 2013 10: 02
                  Legally - federal. In fact - we have federalism only in words, in reality - "vertical".
                  1. Warrawar
                    +1
                    26 December 2013 10: 05
                    Quote: Basileus
                    Legally - federal. In fact - we have federalism only in words, in reality - "vertical".

                    There is only one thing to say, "Thank you for this."
            2. +13
              26 December 2013 10: 06
              Quote: Warrawar
              It is enough to observe the principles of federalism. The Russian Federation is a federal state in which there are Islamic republics, so hold your meetings in them, wear a burqa and live in width.

              Although I am a Muslim, I have not heard about Islamic republics within the Russian Federation. If Tatarstan is an Islamic republic, and here you need to live according to Sharia, then what do you say to the Russians living next to us? Do not say nonsense, I see the future of the Russian Federation only in the equal rights and mutual respect of the peoples living in it. Any other option, when black, white or yellow prevails, will lead to at least instability.
              1. Warrawar
                +11
                26 December 2013 10: 11
                Quote: bairat
                Although I am a Muslim, I have not heard about Islamic republics within the Russian Federation. If Tatarstan is an Islamic republic, and here you need to live according to Sharia, then what do you say to the Russians living next to us? Do not say nonsense, I see the future of the Russian Federation only in the equal rights and mutual respect of the peoples living in it

                What kind of "equality" and mutual respect are you talking about? There are the republics of the North Caucasus, in which Russians do not live at all, because they were cleaned out of there in the early 90s. They do not live and will not live, because "equal" residence of Russians with aborigines is impossible there. On the other hand, Caucasians demand equality in Moscow and St. Petersburg. It turns out to be a one-sided game - in our republic, you will be on the rights of guests (at best), and in your historical cities we demand equality. You know, but this is not equality, but masochism.
                And I will not even talk about "mutual respect" - Caucasians simply do not respect, on principle, even the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
                1. +5
                  26 December 2013 10: 14
                  So he is not about the Caucasus, but about Tatarstan and Bashkortostan. Caucasians must learn to put in place - this is obvious.
                  1. Warrawar
                    +2
                    26 December 2013 10: 17
                    Quote: Basileus
                    So he is not about the Caucasus, but about Tatarstan and Bashkortostan. Caucasians must learn to put in place - this is obvious.

                    Well, of course, we find a common language with the Tatars and Bashkirs, but the peoples of the Volga region and ethnically completely different, they can be said Europeans.
                    And at the expense of "setting" Caucasians in place, it will be very difficult to do. And by the methods they are trying to do now, it is generally impossible. Because it is necessary to put in place with censure, but on the contrary, they play along, which causes even greater inadequacy.
                2. Ahmed Osmanov
                  +2
                  26 December 2013 10: 47
                  Are you sure that the Russians do not live in the UK, in particular, Dagestan. For your information, a lot of Russians live in Kizlyar, in Derbent, in Makhachkala (I have a Russian neighbor). So let's not be so critical. Yours faithfully hi
                  1. holderrr
                    +3
                    26 December 2013 18: 16
                    Do you even know about the Kizlyar Cossack department? About the Board of Ataman Kizlyar, until 1917? They do not live there, there are graves of their ancestors - Cossacks. And we remember and know that.
                3. holderrr
                  +5
                  26 December 2013 18: 14
                  Russian and Cossack garrisons, Cossack military settlements, strict Laws. And they will live, like dear ones, to walk a thread in the Russian state !!! And on holidays, Caucasians and other hot peoples, under the supervision of a local chieftain, will dance quadrille in pairs, with pleasure!
                  1. .Umar.
                    -2
                    26 December 2013 23: 45
                    hoderrr

                    Mndaa, and again the cotton boy shows strengths, well, a Cossack warrior, of course, when he surpasses the enemy by several times and if the Russian soldier is nearby, and if there is no Russian nearby he is nothing! Remember the races and the stripes forever you came to the Caucasus with the help of the Russians without them you are nothing !!!
                  2. Cossack23
                    0
                    27 December 2013 01: 01
                    I hear the Cossack
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            3. Encoder
              +1
              26 December 2013 10: 15
              They lived under the kings for many hundreds of years and somehow got along and no one really thought about it.
              1. Warrawar
                +3
                26 December 2013 10: 20
                Quote: Coder
                They lived under the kings for many hundreds of years and somehow got along and no one really thought about it.

                Kings, unlike the current rulers, were not Tolerasts.
              2. 0
                26 December 2013 11: 00
                Quote: Coder
                They lived under the kings for many hundreds of years and somehow got along and no one really thought about it.

                Under the kings, the Tatars did not even serve in the army. For example, under Anna Ivanovna, taxes from Russians ranged from 1,5 to 2 rubles, and from foreigners no more than 1,15. Here it is the imperial "oppression".
                1. +1
                  26 December 2013 11: 08
                  Since the beginning of the Patriotic War of 1812, Muslims collected 500 thousand rubles in favor of the army and sent 4139 combat horses to the front. Soon more than 30 Bashkir and Tatar regiments were formed, 500 privates in each, and the Crimean Tatars were in the Russian army. The command structure of these military units included 30 people: the regiment commander, foreman, 5 Yesaul, 5 centurions, 5 coronets, 1 quartermaster, 1 to 2 clerks and 10 Pentecostals. Also, with each shelf there was always a mullah. Warriors had traditional weapons for them and 2 horses. In addition, during the Patriotic War of 1812, 12 thousand Russian Muslims carried linear service on the eastern borders of Russia. Muslims on their shoulders bore the brunt of the Patriotic War with Napoleon and subsequent overseas campaigns, passing from the western borders to Moscow, and then back - from the ancient capital of Russia to Paris.

                  No one served, of course.
                  1. +1
                    26 December 2013 11: 53
                    They did not carry military duty; in the war of 1812, militias were formed.
                    According to the manifesto of Emperor Alexander I of July 18, 1812 on the formation of popular militias, the Kazan province entered the 3rd reserve district, the center of which was Kostroma. The reception of warriors and officers from among the nobles began in September 1812. Major General D.A. was elected the head of the Kazan militia. Bulygin, commander of the foot battalion regiment - lieutenant colonel N.N. Chichagov, and the cavalry regiment - Major L.S. Grigoryev. It was from among the Tatar riders that the horse units were largely formed.
                    Through the efforts of the director of the Kazan gymnasium, Professor Yakovkin, the manifesto on the collection of the militia was translated into the Tatar language, printed in a printing house in the amount of 200 copies and distributed throughout the province1. Residents of the province donated 346 thousand rubles in silver for the needs of the militia, including the Tatar population who contributed over 10 thousand rubles.

                    6 Tatars went into service, and the share of money in the total boiler is only 000%.
                  2. 0
                    26 December 2013 11: 55
                    Quote: Basileus
                    No one served, of course.

                    and about taxes, lies, taxes on the Tatars were predatory. as a result, they either fled wherever they looked, or converted to Orthodoxy, then they reduced the tax.
                  3. Cossack23
                    -1
                    27 December 2013 01: 01
                    and it was an honor for you
            4. -4
              26 December 2013 16: 52
              Quote: Warrawar
              Quote: Basileus
              So separate the republic then, what is the problem? I don’t want to become Russian - it’s enough for me to be a Tatar and love Russia.

              It is enough to observe the principles of federalism. The Russian Federation is a federal state in which there are Islamic republics, so hold your meetings in them, wear a burqa and live in width.
              Do you want to be Russian? Well, the Russians also do not want you to be Russian.
              But in the future, I do not see how the Russian Federation can continue to exist in its current form. Two incompatible cultures cannot coexist within one country, especially since the principles of federalism (the foundation of the Russian Federation) are not respected.
              It is necessary to raise the question of division, or at least the observance of the principles of federalism.

              And let's separate pagans, Buddhists, etc. And sit in your principality of Moscow.
              And we are somehow without you.
            5. 0
              26 December 2013 21: 37
              Quote: Warrawar
              It is enough to observe the principles of federalism. The Russian Federation is a federal state in which there are Islamic republics, so hold your meetings in them, wear a burqa and live in width.


              Vladislav hi !! Russia is a federal state. There are no Islamic republics in Russia, there are republics where Muslims live. And even if these republics are part of Russia, then for all republics and entities there is one law-the Constitution of the Russian Federation. So, to live according to Sharia they will not work in any way.

              P.S. By the way, have you heard that Russia is adopting a law that prohibits separatism and calls for the dismemberment of the state? Your comment just falls under this article.
          2. 0
            26 December 2013 13: 15
            Russian is a state of mind ... the classic said))) but about who and what believes ... everyone’s business, but so far he doesn’t interfere with the others ..... but with the latter there are difficulties)))) we we press the church ... not we raise the turbidity .... but we live among this turbidity ....
          3. 0
            26 December 2013 16: 50
            Quote: Basileus
            So separate the republic then, what is the problem? I don’t want to become Russian - it’s enough for me to be a Tatar and love Russia.

            The problem is that these screamers do not understand who the Russians are. This is not a nationality or religion. This concept, state of mind.
            To understand this, you need to drive from Konigsberg to Anadyr. And these "pseudo-Russian" are dangling abroad. We do not have enough service for them. Well, there were no boyars in most of the country. We are not used to serving them. We can take it to our table, but serve it .... Let him ride with the servants.
            1. Warrawar
              -2
              26 December 2013 21: 30
              Quote: Vasya
              The problem is that these screamers do not understand who the Russians are. This is not a nationality or religion. This concept, state of mind.

              The problem is that you yourself do not understand, and you are trying to teach someone.
        2. Encoder
          +1
          26 December 2013 10: 20
          And for this Russian should be born more. Without this, no laws, no weapons, nothing the Russian world will save. And our grandchildren will live in a country that is still being born now. And Muslims are much more likely to occupy these territories (unfortunately).
          1. Warrawar
            +1
            26 December 2013 10: 26
            Quote: Coder
            And for this Russian should be born more.

            I agree. True, the Russians will still not give birth to 7 children (except as an exception), because for the Russians, the stage of rapid growth has already passed.
            In the best case, they will give birth to 2-3 children, a couple.
            1. 0
              26 December 2013 10: 34
              2-3 is great. But while no one is in a hurry to give birth in three.
      2. Luzhichanin
        +1
        26 December 2013 13: 55
        Quote: Basileus
        Well, they think that Muslims do not live in Russia. I don't understand the Natsiks. They seem to shout "Russia for the Russians", but it seems that many are imperials. It's time to decide - to live in a Russian country, but smaller, or in Russia with all the nat. republics.

        Now the law will be held to ban encroachment on territorial integrity in discussions, let's see what you will call for.
        1. -1
          26 December 2013 14: 00
          Is that what I am calling for? This is our Natsik yelling Russia-for Russian. I only support them.
          1. Luzhichanin
            +1
            26 December 2013 19: 03
            Quote: Basileus
            I only support them.

            So between them and you then I do not see a difference.
      3. .Umar.
        0
        26 December 2013 23: 28
        Basileus: It's time to decide - to live in a Russian country, but less, or in Russia with all the nat. republics in the composition.

        Exactly!!! Yes
    2. Alexey Prikazchikov
      -2
      26 December 2013 09: 30
      You didn `t know?
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    4. Captain Vrungel
      +5
      26 December 2013 11: 41
      Aydin! Have you already Islamized Russia? What am I a liar? That your faithful are bringing down the tsunami to the wrong stream. Not ours to you. In all European countries there is already such a dominance that you cannot even understand where you are because of migrants from the east. Here in Odessa. Local authorities of non-Odessa nationality staged a festive fair at Deribasovskaya. Continuous Malaybazar or Alay market. An Uzbek dressed as Santa Claus with a melon, a Chinese Snow Maiden with Chinese souvenirs. Pilaf, shurpa and other delights of Eastern and Caucasian cuisine. Odessa is a multinational city. We celebrate all holidays. But on Catholic Christmas, the disguised, noisy "guests" of the merchants of the East in Christian attire, I personally do not enjoy watching. So who is climbing who? Okay. Live, live. But do not meddle and desecrate the holidays of other believers.
  24. +2
    26 December 2013 09: 28
    Caucasian rally in Moscow

    Better not, this is such a tempting goal for laying a terrifying bomb, both literally and figuratively, that some "gentlemen-comrades" can not resist the temptation. from 91 to this moment, at least personally, it affected me in such a way that if, God forbid, of course, against the "freedom-loving eagles" a hellish machine, which they have repeatedly used, works against them, I will not feel sorry for them at all, yes and most likely not for me alone.
  25. +5
    26 December 2013 09: 29
    I wonder if these "tolerant" Muslim organizations will support the holding of a meeting of Orthodox Slavs in Makhachkala, Kazan, Grozny, etc.?
    from the Russian Congress of the Peoples of the Caucasus, Muhammad Magomedov (Dagestan movement “Union of the Just”), Izzat Aman (Union of Tajik Youth in Russia) and Nail Nabiullin (“Azatlyk”).
    1. +1
      26 December 2013 09: 32
      Why not? Christians live there and have a right. We in Kazan and Ufa are not xenophobic, unlike the Muscovites. Moreover, religious processions take place periodically, and in Ufa there are more churches than mosques. Deny speak?
      1. +3
        26 December 2013 09: 40
        Do you believe it yourself? Or just "maaaskvichi" learned to write?
        1. +1
          26 December 2013 09: 44
          What time? Do you have a photo story from the next procession?

          We’ll continue to minus, or does someone still have evidence of the oppression of Christians in Bashkiria?
          1. +1
            26 December 2013 11: 50
            Quote: Basileus


            ..... does anyone have evidence of oppression of Christians in Bashkiria?


            What are the oppression of Muslims in Russia? Who oppresses the Bashkirs in Moscow?
            1. 0
              26 December 2013 11: 53
              Am I talking about the oppression of Muslims? Here, for example, the overwhelming majority is against a certain "rally" in Moscow. I, in fact, too, but now talking about something else - here the person above says that in Kazan, Makhachkala, etc. it is impossible to hold a meeting of the Orthodox. So present evidence that it is impossible, that someone was forbidden.
          2. 0
            26 December 2013 11: 53
            I am not a minus signer.
        2. +2
          26 December 2013 10: 19
          Quote: fzr1000
          Do you believe it yourself? Or just "maaaskvichi" learned to write?

          more xenophobic than Muscovites have not met. in Moscow, where at least a million Muslims can count the number of mosques on the fingers of one hand. but then it’s so sweet to yell and upload videos here as they pray on the streets. and where should they go to the poor? in Kazan we have an equal number of mosques and churches, and I think it is right, according to our constitution, citizens have the right to access religious sites.
          1. +7
            26 December 2013 12: 26
            We have a secular state. Did not hear? If you want to pray, pray, but do not disturb public order. I'm against building mosques in Moscow. And not only in Moscow. Churches are built, so they are built on the site of the destroyed.
            And about the xenophobia of Muscovites, everyone would not come here or if these normal people would behave, there would be no xenophobia.
            1. -1
              26 December 2013 12: 37
              Quote: fzr1000
              Churches are built, so they are built on the site of the destroyed.

              yeah, ruined. recently just adopted a program to build two hundred churches in Moscow. they also once destroyed? you would lie less, maybe then normal people will come to you in Moscow
              1. +1
                26 December 2013 12: 45
                Oh, scared and don’t come. And Moscow is capitalized. And what in Moscow did you decide to build?
                1. -1
                  26 December 2013 12: 51
                  Quote: fzr1000
                  Oh, scared and don’t come. And Moscow is capitalized. And what in Moscow did you decide to build?

                  Yes, and was not going to come, I turned your mask, you arrogant arrogance there. but I said to the fact that you then cry that you are being numbed by bad chocks, so good people with your attitude will not come.
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2013 13: 10
                    Make sure not to cry yourself when the Salafi Wahhabis come to where you live and "twist" all the "wrong" Muslims.
                    1. 0
                      26 December 2013 13: 18
                      ok, I won’t cry. on this and end this meaningless conversation.
          2. 0
            26 December 2013 12: 38
            Yes, for .. to your minuses. I graduated from school 30 years ago.
          3. +2
            26 December 2013 13: 51
            you don’t have to touch Moscow ..... and Muscovites too ..... and did you see a lot of native Muscovites? dear people, by the way ... found your mother, the promised land .... how do you feel about some kind of people are constantly snarling at your house, and even trying to win something there, and they don’t forget to express their views .... and in Moscow this has been happening for a dozen years ... in some sleeping areas, if you drop you off, you’re in life does not understand where it turned out ... hard to see the Slavs)))
            1. +1
              26 December 2013 16: 59
              Quote: KIND
              do not touch Moscow ..... and Muscovites too

              I am through this branch of Israel just passing through. And then, I try to fly through other cities.
          4. holderrr
            +2
            26 December 2013 18: 20
            A bitter vegetable, under the jellied meat, by him, and not by a mosque, from the capital of Orthodoxy! Three times a bitter vegetable, under the jellied meat !!!!
    2. Ahmed Osmanov
      +2
      26 December 2013 10: 48
      The Orthodox have the full right to hold a rally in Makhachkala.
      1. +2
        26 December 2013 12: 28
        Why do the Orthodox need it? You (not you personally) do not meddle with a charter in someone else's monastery, or then do not be offended by "xenophobia and nationalism."
        1. 0
          26 December 2013 12: 37
          Did you read the first message? They don’t ask why.
          1. +3
            26 December 2013 12: 51
            Do not bother all in one pile. A rally in Moscow of millions of migrants, even legal ones, is nonsense. Moreover, quotas on migrants in Russia are being cut from NG. Under the USSR, Moscow was built and cleaned, as well as other cities, without migrants. So it was possible. And to build in Moscow so much is not necessary. This is the greed of businessmen and officials, among whom there are also locals and visitors. You need to raise the whole country.
        2. 0
          26 December 2013 17: 00
          Quote: fzr1000
          Why do the Orthodox need it? You (not you personally) do not meddle with a charter in someone else's monastery, or then do not be offended by "xenophobia and nationalism."

          What if he wants to?
        3. Ahmed Osmanov
          0
          26 December 2013 19: 19
          No need to take it out of context, you read the entire comment thread.
      2. 0
        26 December 2013 13: 03
        Who needs these rallies?
  26. Ivan Petrovich
    +7
    26 December 2013 09: 29
    while pedrosnya is in power, there will be no "Russian project"
  27. uhjpysq1
    +2
    26 December 2013 09: 32
    Or can only Russians be nationalists, and Tatars not?) But are Tatars discriminated against in the Russian Federation?
    1. -8
      26 December 2013 09: 35
      Russians seem to be discriminated against.
      1. uhjpysq1
        -1
        26 December 2013 12: 14
        in pugachev by the way chichi tatar killed!
        1. +2
          26 December 2013 12: 17
          Well, there will be examples of discrimination against Russians?
          1. +1
            26 December 2013 12: 32
            Put on the T-shirt "I am Russian" and walk in Moscow to vegetable stores and markets or in your own Kazan, you will find out. I'm not talking about more southern regions.
            1. -1
              26 December 2013 12: 36
              Shave your head and shave - the result will be similar.
              1. 0
                26 December 2013 12: 42
                What is the connection?
                1. +1
                  26 December 2013 12: 56
                  In that you offer to stand out. And in a simple t-shirt you can’t get through?
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2013 13: 14
                    Then suggest another way to find out if they will run into you on a national basis in one place or another or not.
                    1. 0
                      26 December 2013 14: 10
                      Well, I'm quite Russian in appearance. This is not enough? Need to get attention?
              2. uhjpysq1
                +3
                26 December 2013 14: 08
                Basileus) -troll.
                1. 0
                  26 December 2013 14: 11
                  I will be a troll if in such a T-shirt I hang around the bazaars alone. But not for long.
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2013 17: 02
                    Quote: Basileus
                    I will be a troll if in such a T-shirt I hang around the bazaars alone. But not for long.

                    Well I do not know. I went fine. I'm really on the other side of the Urals
              3. +4
                26 December 2013 14: 52
                but in Moscow T-shirts like I-Dag and others are found .... but I’m not particularly visible in Russian .... then they can write nats. belonging to them ... but we don’t, there’s no such country as Russia ... then there are Russians (hello to the Caucasus) as good as Russians are nationalists (and now hello to the great people) .... but history says that this country was not built by Russians ... and the Russians will not be able to save it, and they don’t want to ( write down all the animals in the forest with squirrels, there will be more squirrels ...) whether we want or not, but it was the Russians who moved, built and developed this country .... yes, and I'm sorry, but I don’t see the difference between Ukrainians, yam and bulbashs .. . People alone ....
                1. 0
                  26 December 2013 17: 06
                  Quote: KIND
                  but I don’t see the difference between Ukrainians, Yami and Bulbash ... there is only one people ..

                  Add Tatars, Kazakhs, Bashkirs, Mordvinians, etc.
                  A lot in common. Much more than between Siberians and Muscovites
        2. holderrr
          -1
          26 December 2013 18: 23
          Ruslan, who was never killed by the Czechs, did not consider himself a Tatar, and wore a cross on his neck.
      2. +3
        26 December 2013 18: 17
        Quote: Basileus
        Russians seem to be discriminated against.

        To discriminate then the gut is still thin, but bite, if possible, each tv.a.r. strives.
      3. Cossack23
        0
        27 December 2013 01: 06
        Russians quietly cut
  28. +1
    26 December 2013 09: 34
    and they want to organize a rally on February 10, a coincidence of course :-)
  29. +5
    26 December 2013 09: 37
    My opinion is that, first of all, it will be necessary to put under the machine gun those bureaucrats who will coordinate this meeting with them, if they agree.
  30. Alex_Popovson
    +2
    26 December 2013 09: 46
    Dubye will have to cook
  31. Energet1k_
    +3
    26 December 2013 09: 51
    Well, if a Caucasian rally is being held now, then tomorrow what can be expected ?? Gay Pride ?? Sodomy??
    1. Warrawar
      +7
      26 December 2013 09: 56
      Quote: Energet1k_
      Well, if a Caucasian rally is being held now, then tomorrow what can be expected ?? Gay Pride ?? Sodomy??

      I've been talking about this for a long time. Our "power" speaks, through a word, about "spiritual bonds" and "traditional values" but in its essence is liberal, so we will have gay pride parades, only a little later. As putler said, "Russia is not ready to hold gay pride parades until it is ready."
      1. 0
        26 December 2013 18: 45
        Quote: Warrawar
        As putler said

        Literally -
        "If someone wants to meet me / ooh ** pet / - Please, but so far there has not been such an initiative. As a rule, I meet with everyone who makes a request for a meeting and suggests discussing some problem / Whose? /which she considers important. No such offers yet / sad fact? /. I assure you that I work /than?/ with such people (representatives of the gay community. - Note. RBC), I sometimes award them with state medals and orders for their achievements in certain areas "

        Some MOMENTS arouse concern for the "integrity" of VladimVladimirich and give rise to some suspicions ...

        Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/society/04/09/2013/874696.shtml
    2. Encoder
      +4
      26 December 2013 10: 09
      But I would have allowed this meeting and the geyparad would have allowed, but only in one place and at one time.
  32. serge
    +3
    26 December 2013 09: 51
    The rally should be banned categorically. According to the religious principle, migrant workers and so twice a year in droves gather at mosques who do not give them. And this is an attempt to undermine the ethno-confessional world in Moscow, from which long Zionist-Anglo-Saxon ears stick out.
  33. prophetic
    -1
    26 December 2013 09: 54
    Muslims are for the most part animals. You don’t have to let them anything, they’ll sit on the neck, but the traveler loves them, he will allow it, but he already allowed it ...
    1. Encoder
      -3
      26 December 2013 10: 05
      He probably loves the moon with a sickle. And it would have been forbidden for a long time! And we had the moon with a cross or a triangle ...
      1. prophetic
        0
        26 December 2013 10: 28
        yeah, moon crescent and dima popik
  34. Encoder
    +1
    26 December 2013 10: 02
    Quote: Udaltsov saw “sound grain” in Tatar national separatism, and Nabiullin, in turn, expressed support for the “swamps”, as the “Belolentochnik” movement was aimed “for the benefit of the Tatar people”

    Tell me who your friend is and I will say who you are. Friend of the enemy is the enemy.
  35. Christian
    +7
    26 December 2013 10: 02
    If in Russia there will be a Russian authority in spirit, and not liberal Tolerasts, who are imposing a Western Pidrian way of life and thought in the country, there will be no such problems!
  36. +14
    26 December 2013 10: 07
    Quote: Warrawar
    By the way, Azatlyk (Liberty) is a party of Tatar separatists who advocate the separation of Tatarstan from Russia.

    Do not touch Tatarstan, if a couple of a bunch of crazy fuckers-separatists yells something there - this does not mean that they speak on behalf of the people of the whole republic. Probably you know the proverb: "Scratch a Russian - you will find a Tatar." Our radicals tried to undermine the mullah in Kazan, for the fact that, according to their concepts, we have a "too soft" religion, characterized by tolerance for the confessions of other peoples. All these "Azatlykovites" must be chased. Russia for the Tatars is the same native country as for the Russians, those who are trying to divide us are enemies of the people.
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        1. Encoder
          +1
          26 December 2013 13: 20
          Ivanovo region is the same. No one shares.
      3. Luzhichanin
        0
        26 December 2013 19: 24
        Quote: Basileus
        that you begin to understand all sorts of thugs from Azatlyk and other Cook Bure

        Does conscience also become understanding or is it temporarily disconnected?
        Why are you promoting these organizations to us? Maybe you want us to also begin to understand them and go under their banners?
        1. 0
          26 December 2013 22: 22
          What do you have to do with it?
    2. Warrawar
      0
      26 December 2013 10: 28
      Quote: hitech
      Tatarstan, do not touch, if a couple of a bunch of squabbled morons-separatists yells something there, this does not mean that they speak on behalf of the people of the whole republic

      But I do not say that they speak on behalf of the whole people. It’s just that they are and this is a fact, and in the future, anything can be promoted from this movement, especially if it is well funded.


      Quote: hitech
      All these "Azatlykovites" must be chased. Russia for the Tatars is the same native country as for the Russians, those who are trying to divide us are enemies of the people.

      well and drive? Why don't you drive?
    3. +2
      26 December 2013 11: 19
      Yes, we understand. Moreover, I’ll say that they treat the Tatars well — I have a Tatar friend).
  37. +2
    26 December 2013 10: 08
    Started for health, and finished for SPIRITUAL SCRIPTS. It is time for those in power to realize that official propaganda, which is opposed to wahams, is unable to evoke anything but laughter, and to turn Gundyaev (and at the same time half of the other figures) with a filthy broom.
    1. +5
      26 December 2013 11: 12
      In Russia, there is only one "spiritual bond" RUSSIAN PEOPLE, the stronger it is, the stronger the state. Russian is not a nationality, not blood, it is a worldview, so anyone can be Russian. Those who, living at the expense of the Russian people, weaken it, humiliate it, demand some kind of rights, they are enemies.
      1. Encoder
        0
        26 December 2013 13: 18
        It's right. Before the revolution, Russians recorded any person baptized in the Russian church. And it cannot be an adjective name of a nation. Russian - what? This determines membership in a particular group. Nationality - Rus. Remember how the Germans shouted - Rus hello. As we are called eastern peoples - Urus.
      2. .Umar.
        0
        27 December 2013 00: 33
        Orik

        And who lives at the expense of the Russian people, you can ask? laughing
      3. Alexey K.
        +1
        27 December 2013 06: 13
        In my opinion this is relevant today.
  38. +1
    26 December 2013 10: 09
    Riot police probably already cleans trunks throughout Russia (counting the days until January 26) Oh, there will be a glorious hunt! bully
    1. Nikolay D.
      +1
      26 December 2013 11: 39
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Oh, a glorious hunt will be!


      I am against, I think we need to manage the masses wisely, we still haven’t settled the north, let them go, they’ll live there, settle down, you’ll become citizens, one man lives on the territory of Russia.
  39. +5
    26 December 2013 10: 11
    Where do such savages come from? Look at the photos from Kuyram Bayram! This is some kind of Middle Ages.
  40. +3
    26 December 2013 10: 13
    This rally will not end well, you'll see. The question is "who needs it?" I think these protesters are clearly not in the first place in this matter.
  41. +5
    26 December 2013 10: 15
    The very fact that a religious rally is planned to be held is already causing a negative assessment of the upcoming events, and even more so because they want to hold such an event on Manezhnaya Square.
    I remember the events in Alma-Ata, when Kazakhs with cuttings from shovels beat the Slavs, then the excuse for the riots was the removal of Kunaev from power, then in order to warm up youth in the central square of the city they distributed vodka for free and sounded anti-Russian slogans. In 1986, strong power, and it all ended disastrously for the organizers. And now, how will the Islamist rally end?
    It is not clear to me why such events can even be held in the capital of Russia?
    In general, holding meetings on religious affiliation is in itself a provocative fact, and the organizers, apparently, are waiting for an adequate reaction from the opponents.
    Participation in such anti-Russian events of representatives of the so-called Left Front, led by Navalny, Udaltsov, Germans, etc., etc. will not attract normal supporters into its ranks.
    But in fact, these are terrible prerequisites. Maybe now the authorities will think about the need to seriously engage in national politics.
    1. -4
      26 December 2013 10: 57
      HU.nyu not reap. Where and when was it? Have you been there to say so peremptorily?
      There was no "beating" of the Slavs in Alma-Ata, and no anti-Russian slogans at the meeting.
      Show me at least one such slogan!
      The only message that was voiced on banners is each republic has its leader who is familiar with the nuances of this region. And then, the Kremlin, took and put a man even close to a stranger to the state of affairs in the republic.
      Regarding shovel cuttings - have you personally seen this? How could these very cuttings be carried onto a tightly cordoned area? In short, there were no cuttings there, or rather they were not so actively used, but what was used in large quantities was the stumps of the fittings with which the workers at the AZTM plant were armed. Kirov and a number of other industrial enterprises of the city of Almaty. I know personally, because My parents' neighbor, just worked as a workshop foreman at AZTM, where pipes and building fittings for combatants were cut off. But everyone drank vodka - both from that and from this side. Although it was possible for two car shops to drive to the cordoned off area, it is also a very interesting point.
  42. ed65b
    +1
    26 December 2013 10: 16
    The rally will be banned. And we will wait for the end of the Olympic Games, the "blue dream" of our president. It was not for nothing that a journalist from Dagestan wanted to ask VVP "what will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics, there are persistent rumors in the Caucasus", there is no lady without fire, the elites of the Caucasus are thinking - finally.
    1. Warrawar
      +3
      26 December 2013 10: 34
      Quote: ed65b
      The rally will be banned. And we will wait for the end of the Olympic Games, the "blue dream" of our president. It was not for nothing that a journalist from Dagestan wanted to ask VVP "what will happen to the Caucasus after the Olympics, there are persistent rumors in the Caucasus", there is no lady without fire, the elites of the Caucasus are thinking - finally.

      It would be nice if they would cut off a freebie after the Olympics.
  43. Luzhichanin
    0
    26 December 2013 10: 16
    Quote: Samsonov Alexander
    leader of the Tatar nationalist movement "Azatlyk" Nail Nabiullin
    Nabiullin, Nabiullin ... somewhere I already heard this name ... Oh for sure! Elvira Nabiullina, head of the Central Bank ... conjures up certain thoughts!
    1. +2
      26 December 2013 10: 25
      She is from Bashkiria.

      Do you think namesakes are only Russian?
      1. Luzhichanin
        +1
        26 December 2013 10: 43
        I don’t think anything, it’s impossible to dream up anymore. No.
        Apparently, they want to substitute our beauty crying
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      3. Luzhichanin
        0
        26 December 2013 13: 31
        Quote: Basileus
        Do you think namesakes are only Russian?

        Something I did not immediately pay attention to: What does the Russian have to do with it? There is no hint of nationality in my message.
        Moreover, pepper is clear, namesakes are everywhere.
        Again, the Russians are to blame?
        1. +1
          26 December 2013 13: 41
          Well, we have all the discussion in the national spirit, so why not rage here too?)
          1. Luzhichanin
            +1
            26 December 2013 19: 35
            As always: Just a little - Vasya is to blame!
            But do not try to drive the inhabitants of the land of the promised snowstorm! And then for the Holocaust bribes begin to charge!
            But in Russian, yes - chase them ... they’ve always put up with it, are suffering and will once again bear it!
  44. 0
    26 December 2013 10: 22
    <<< Udaltsov saw "healthy grain" in the Tatar national-separatism, and Nabiullin, in turn, declared his support for the "bogs", since the movement of "white-ribbon workers" was aimed "for the benefit of the Tatar people." >>>
    This idiot Udaltsova does not realize that these Islamists - separatists are ready to support anyone just to be helped to undermine and "overthrow" the legitimate government in Russia! And then they will quickly DISSOLVE with the "bogies" and with other oppositional authorities with huskies, who for them are the same "infidels", subject to destruction, preventing them from establishing their power and building a caliphate in Russia!
  45. +4
    26 December 2013 10: 25
    Recently I watched a report on YouTube by Marat Musin, he foreshadows the bloody events for 2014 and he himself suffers from the inaction of our mummies. Everything that happened in Syria before the war, he sees it with us now. The Syrians themselves say <why your military is not with us now what to learn> And we have no tolerance and transmission
    1. Warrawar
      +3
      26 December 2013 10: 54
      Quote: nemec55
      Recently I watched a report on YouTube by Marat Musin, he foreshadows the bloody events for 2014 and he himself suffers from the inaction of our mummies. Everything that happened in Syria before the war, he sees it with us now. The Syrians themselves say <why your military is not with us now what to learn> And we have no tolerance and transmission


      Here is this presentation:



      I advise you to see everyone.
      1. -2
        26 December 2013 21: 47
        And what will he say? Musin seriously stated that the personal guard of the President of Azerbaijan Aliyev is training Wahhabis in Syria. After that, I lost all interest in his person and his information.

        Anyone familiar with the Presidential security system knows that every security guard, and even more so a personal security guard, signs certain papers and, even if he is already out of service, cannot leave the country for a very long time, since he has state secrets.

        So that says little musin))
  46. +1
    26 December 2013 10: 30
    Russia is focusing ... !!
    Either touching the wing of the wave, then flying up to the clouds with an arrow, he screams, and the clouds hear joy in the bold cry of a bird.
    In this scream - thirst for the storm! The power of anger, the flame of passion and confidence in victory are heard by the clouds in this cry.
    The seagulls moan before the storm - they moan, rush over the sea and are ready to hide their horror before the storm at the bottom.
    And the loons also moan - they, the loons, cannot enjoy the battle of life: the thunder of blows frightens them.
    A stupid penguin timidly hides a fat body in the cliffs ... Only a proud Petrel flies boldly and freely over the gray-haired sea of ​​foam!
    Closer and darker clouds descend above the sea, and they sing, and waves rush to a height towards thunder.
    Thunder rumbles. Waves groan in the foam of anger, arguing with the wind. A flock of waves embraces the wind with a strong embrace and throws them on a cliff in a wild anger, breaking emerald bulks into dust and splashes.
    The petrel screams with a cry, black lightning similar to an arrow piercing the clouds, the foam breaks the waves wing.
    Here he is rushing like a demon - a proud, black demon of a storm - and laughs and weeps ... He laughs at the clouds, he sobs with joy!


    It’s time to show the Russian bear its fangs and claws ...
    1. 0
      26 December 2013 17: 11
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It’s time to show the Russian bear its fangs and claws ...

      Start with yourself. From your locality.
  47. +5
    26 December 2013 10: 42
    Isn't it time to revive the terms "titular nation" and "Pale of Settlement" with legislative consolidation? Yes, and the constitutional consolidation of the concept of the Orthodox state could be interesting ... But ... will not change anything! Alas! angry
    1. +3
      26 December 2013 11: 00
      Silantyev noted that the view that no one can destroy the interfaith peace in the republic is naive and fundamentally wrong. He cited Syria as an example, where Muslims and Christians lived side by side together in peace and harmony for 1500 years, and the radicals only needed one year to blow up the country and flood it with blood.

      Another religion would be considered extremism. Too shaky world where the most peaceful religions. In the USSR, believers prayed quietly in the corners and no one stuck out their religious component
    2. +3
      26 December 2013 11: 18
      Quote: Navuxonastupil
      And the constitutional consolidation of the concept of an Orthodox state could be interesting.

      For an Orthodox state, an Orthodox people is needed in essence, and not by name. According to all polls, there are 3–9% of those, for the rest, Orthodoxy is a cultural identification, and not the meaning of life and the measure of values.
      Quote: Navuxonastupil
      Pale of Settlement

      smile Where do you want to spend it ...
      1. +1
        26 December 2013 17: 14
        Quote: Orik
        Where do you want to spend it ...

        Moscow.
        1. 0
          27 December 2013 09: 16
          Quote: Vasya
          Quote: Orik
          Where do you want to spend it ...

          Moscow.

          Only if around.
    3. +1
      26 December 2013 17: 13
      Quote: Navuxonastupil
      Isn't it time to revive the terms "titular nation" and "Pale of Settlement" with legislative consolidation? Yes, and the constitutional consolidation of the concept of the Orthodox state could be interesting ... But ... will not change anything! Alas! angry

      The revolution of 1917 was also organized by the faces of their Pale of Settlement and Old Believers.
      Have a desire to repeat?
  48. USNik
    -1
    26 December 2013 10: 56
    Kazan nationalists published a call on the network to mobilize supporters from other regions in which significant Tatar communities live.
    Kazan Ivan the Terrible didn’t finish at the time, didn’t ...
    1. +1
      26 December 2013 11: 09
      The Tatars did not have their own Mazepa, yes. So if someone really had to be crushed, then definitely not in Kazan.
      1. 0
        26 December 2013 18: 04
        Quote: Basileus
        The Tatars did not have their own Mazepa,

        Maybe it wasn’t.
        But there were no prominent Russian commanders, statesmen, scientists. Not even a single member of the Politburo was there. Why? Hard to say. I do not think that the Tatars in Russia were oppressed. But 2 marshals and even the head of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR came out of the Armenians, and there were much fewer Armenians in the USSR than the Tatars. From the Georgians came Stalin, Ordzhonikidze, Beria, Shevardnadze - figures of a national scale. Before the revolution, Bagration was from the Georgians. But Georgians were two times less in the USSR and RI than the Tatars. In the USSR, the Tatars were the 5th largest nation. Even from the Baltic states, Jews, Poles were members of the Politburo, but from the Tatars I do not remember anyone. Not a single major revolutionary or counter-revolutionary was from the Tatars or even from Muslims. Why? It seems that this nation has withdrawn from Russian affairs, considered them strangers, outsiders, not their own. Maybe I'm wrong. I have nothing against the Tatars, moreover, I can not imagine Russia without them, and I maintain good personal relations with many, but I just brought the facts. And the facts also need to be considered. Ponder calmly.
        1. Warrawar
          0
          26 December 2013 19: 03
          Quote: Sour
          Maybe it wasn’t.
          But there were no prominent Russian commanders, statesmen, scientists. Not even a single member of the Politburo was there.

          You are mistaken, from Tatars were. There were several noble service clans from the Tatars, which Russified.
        2. 0
          26 December 2013 20: 04
          Quote: Sour
          Why? It seems that this nation has withdrawn from Russian affairs, considered them strangers, outsiders, not their own.

          Again, the reason is religion, before the revolution, unbaptized Tatars access to educational institutions was closed.
    2. Encoder
      0
      26 December 2013 13: 10
      And I didn’t really try too hard. Why push your own.
    3. .Umar.
      -1
      27 December 2013 00: 42
      USNik

      Quote: Kazan Ivan the Terrible did not finish in his day, did not finish ...

      laughing Or vice versa, the Tatars did not finish ...! laughing
  49. +7
    26 December 2013 10: 57
    IT IS NECESSARY TO EXERCISE ANY NATIONAL EDUCATION IN THE TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!! There should be territories and regions - no republics! Well, when will our government deal with this issue ...
    1. 0
      26 December 2013 11: 10
      And it is better to write comments from Iceland, deciding everything for the Russians.
      1. ed65b
        +2
        26 December 2013 11: 34
        Quote: Basileus
        And it is better to write comments from Iceland, deciding everything for the Russians.

        I have the same periodically this flag pops up from my mobile.
        1. 0
          26 December 2013 22: 14
          That's it, and I'm talking about too. I left the phone today and for some reason the flag changed ...
      2. 0
        26 December 2013 22: 12
        I am not from Iceland, I am from Russia, Moscow Region. Born and lived here all his life. Just something flag glucan and he changed this morning. Before that, 2 years was Russian. I don’t understand myself. :-))
    2. Nikolay D.
      +3
      26 December 2013 11: 46
      Quote: sprut
      There should be territories and regions - no republics!


      This is the right train of thought, the USSR has sunk into the summer, which republics? Or a new union is needed.
  50. 0
    26 December 2013 10: 58
    If there was my power, I would drive some cyber-riot police and a couple of buses to the forum to get all the Nazis and swamp worms of white-belt, directly inciting ethnic and religious hatred in Russia, take them to mines in this bus to Siberia, there hold a trial on the spot, give them a keel instead of a machine gun, let them destroy the breed for 10 years, not Russia.
    1. +2
      26 December 2013 13: 19
      You first need to go there, horseradish tolerance. It is necessary to intercede for the Russians, and not for any mob that has come in large swaying rights.
      1. -2
        26 December 2013 17: 53
        Quote: Greenwood
        It is necessary to intercede for the Russians

        Not here you stand up for the Russians, ghoul. Three Russians are beating on the road - come and stand up. And here at least once in a while turn on brains if they are.
    2. Warrawar
      0
      26 December 2013 21: 07
      Quote: Stanislav
      If there was my power, I would drive some cyber-riot police and a couple of buses to the forum to get all the Nazis and swamp worms of white-belt, directly inciting ethnic and religious hatred in Russia, take them to mines in this bus to Siberia, there hold a trial on the spot, give them a keel instead of a machine gun, let them destroy the breed for 10 years, not Russia.


      Colleague, yes you are a giant of thought! Very reminiscent of this gentleman:

  51. +5
    26 December 2013 11: 06
    It begins - a howl about “oppression” and then how there are armed gangs in Syria - there is a lot of material, thanks to the migration “policy”.
    I hope there are some sensible heads left in the government - they will resolve the issue with the “humiliated” through deportation and stopping funding for bandit regions.
    1. Warrawar
      0
      26 December 2013 21: 09
      Quote: Forest
      I hope there are some sensible heads left in the government - they will resolve the issue with the “humiliated” through deportation and stopping funding for bandit regions.

      You're hoping in vain. Even if there are “healthy” heads, there is one big, sick head sitting above them, which will not allow anything humanly to be done.
  52. batia72
    +3
    26 December 2013 11: 09
    The leader of the “Russian” movement Dmitry Demushkin is right, I support his words with both hands
    .
  53. +5
    26 December 2013 11: 11
    “The task (mission) of Rus'-Russia on the planet is the preservation of spirituality (the divine principle) in man, the fight against evil in all its manifestations.” In all centuries we have stood on this - why now, what if we change...

    Being Russian is not a merit, but a burden.
    When the alarm is on the run,
    Hold the belly of kurguzo,
    We grab hold of it and take it down.

    Forget about your own trouble and pain,
    Not getting smarter at all until gray ...
    To be Russian means to be a warrior in the field,
    Even if you are alone in this field.

    author - Evgeniy Skvoreshnev
    1. Encoder
      +2
      26 December 2013 13: 04
      Great! Well said!
      1. +2
        26 December 2013 13: 51
        "More and more tender and sweeter than a man,
        women are getting harder and harder;
        soon in men for a reason
        women's diseases will appear."
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  54. stroporez
    +9
    26 December 2013 11: 12
    Isn’t it time to discuss the topic of Islamic fascism?????????
  55. +4
    26 December 2013 11: 15
    It will be extremely interesting to see the reaction of the authorities both to the rally itself, if it does take place, and to the reaction of the local population to this action.
    If they swallow it and don’t disperse it, then there is no point in hoping that the problems associated with radical Muslims and visiting “Asians” will be solved “from above.” And if the dissatisfied indigenous population also falls under the hands of riot police, then it will be necessary to draw clear conclusions
  56. 0
    26 December 2013 11: 20
    Quote from the article: “since the movement of the “white ribbon people” is aimed “for the benefit of the Tatar people.”
    This means we are not against living in Russia (Tatars), but not for the good of Russia, but for our loved ones. No comments needed.
    1. 0
      26 December 2013 16: 48
      Averias Today, 11:20 New
      Quote from the article: “since the movement of the “white ribbon people” is aimed “for the benefit of the Tatar people.”
      This means we are not against living in Russia (Tatars), but not for the good of Russia, but for our loved ones. No comments needed.

      Well, why are you all chasing the pluses, you need to think a little with your head. Nationalists (chauvinists) are the same in any nation. Everyone has delusions of grandeur. They want to glorify themselves not by their deeds, but by their nationality. And one should not blame entire nations for the chatter of some of the goofballs, no matter what nation they belong to.
  57. +3
    26 December 2013 11: 21
    Quote: askort154
    Another visit to the rocking of the "Russian boat". With "swamp" failed, now they decided to probe through the national-religious. This must be nipped in the bud!

    And also those who feed from them should be punished...
    And in general, it’s time to introduce the highest measure again...
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  59. +2
    26 December 2013 11: 25
    The theme of the Caucasian rally in Moscow was continued. On January 26, a rally against xenophobia and Islamophobia is planned to be held on Manezhnaya Square. Organizers estimate that up to a million people will attend the demonstration.

    The main thing is that you don’t need to catch anyone by stealth, you just have to pull yourself together.
  60. +7
    26 December 2013 11: 26
    The fool believes in GDP, the smart one prepares for war
    1. -2
      26 December 2013 16: 43
      And what did such a smart letterer prepare? Berdanka or a dozen grenades? And most likely a long babbling tongue.
  61. jjj
    +2
    26 December 2013 11: 50
    But I remember: when Ksyusha’s envelopes with money were found, one of them had Kazan written on it
  62. +9
    26 December 2013 11: 55
    “A great gift” for Muscovites at the beginning of the new year...

    We could plant soldiers with bumblebees on the roofs to burn this negative mass or organize a breakthrough of hot water or sewerage...

    By the way, for reference, in Grozny after the war there was only one monastery left for the Orthodox - the Church of the Archangel Michael, in Dushanbe - St. Nicholas Cathedral... In Moscow, there are now six mosques, and it is planned to build two more - named after Akhmad Kadyrov and Imam Shamil . Where's the justice?? They built something like this in Moscow???
    1. +5
      26 December 2013 13: 43
      Justice is perceived differently by everyone.
      And churches and mosques and synagogues are built for parishioners, and not in order to “mark a place.”
      In Grozny, it is possible to rebuild a modern Church of St. Sophia, but for whom and for what?
      I personally am not bothered by the number of mosques in Moscow.

      Is the Muslim rally stressful?
      Come to it, owners of the city, who consider themselves the titular nation.
      Throw your “presentation” (on the case only) to those who have come in large numbers.
      We, Russian Muscovites, can only advise what others should do, how to deal with the manifestation of foreign traditions and customs.
      We call on the riot police on the roofs with machine guns and with “Bumblebees” against non-residents and immediately destroy the riot police who are pressing us in Cherkizovo and along Sviridov.
      We are all keyboard heroes, but when two Caucasian exiles bully a Muscovite in the subway, we carefully move to the other side.
      We ourselves behave like the last shit.
      But they don’t like shitters either on the plain or in the mountains.
      I personally don't give a fuck. hair color, shoe size and accent of an individual who violates the rules of decency.
      I'm approaching и with conviction I'm talking about inappropriate behavior.
      They understood, accepted and fell silent.
      Maybe I was lucky, but it came to hand-to-hand combat only once.
      They supported me.
      Our inability, cowardice, and disunity in resisting impudence provoke greater impudence.
      And understand, it’s not “they are taking Moscow.”
      This is “we are renting it out.”
      I’m waiting for the “minuses” in advance, but don’t behave like Ch.M.O.s in life.
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  63. 0
    26 December 2013 12: 37
    Quote: Coder
    And for this Russian should be born more. Without this, no laws, no weapons, nothing the Russian world will save. And our grandchildren will live in a country that is still being born now. And Muslims are much more likely to occupy these territories (unfortunately).
  64. +4
    26 December 2013 12: 41
    And who will allow them to hold a rally for 1 million people in Moscow, a maximum of 100 thousand will be allowed, and even then fewer will come. In general, it is necessary to prohibit Central Asians from crossing the border of our country; apparently they have forgotten that they are independent and they will no longer be able to download the rights.
  65. 0
    26 December 2013 12: 47
    Let's ask ourselves another, more serious question: why? The answer, especially in the context of more than one “color revolution” that we have seen in a number of countries of the former socialist bloc and the “Arab Spring,” is quite obvious. Russia is being pushed towards the Yugoslav (Syrian) scenario. The enemies of Russian civilization need confrontation along the lines of Christians - Muslims, friend - alien, ethnic minorities against the state-forming nation, the outskirts against the center.

    In my opinion this quote says it all. There were no serious restrictions related to religion. Any confrontation in this area benefits extremists on both sides. What will a citizen professing traditional Islam speak for at such a rally? It will simply be attracted, if anything, for the masses, taking advantage of our general disorder. In my opinion, the organizers are already radicals, there is no need to look for them. Not to mention the migrants, they are here on legal terms, as they should be.
  66. +1
    26 December 2013 12: 52
    Quote: Orik
    There is one “spiritual bond” in Russia RUSSIAN PEOPLE

    Only those in power do not know about this, they are illiterate.
  67. 0
    26 December 2013 12: 56
    ...with such terrible social division and the dominance of large comprador capital as in Russia, the propaganda of positive patriotic values ​​will not be successful, since words will not coincide with deeds. Only when the political “elite” of Russia itself tries to get closer to the ideals of self-restraint, humanity and justice, becoming a real elite, the best part of society, will the unity of government and society be possible

    Right to the point. This is what is splitting our people. Until these problems are resolved, the tension will not subside and Russia will not be able to rise from its knees.
  68. +1
    26 December 2013 12: 59
    If it’s realistic, it looks like the build-up before the Olympics. They are going through options on how to dunk us into Mr. in front of the whole world. I hope that the World Cup will be cancelled, because in my opinion all these whistles and fakes are nothing more than economic sabotage against the Russian Federation. And if it’s clear from the subject, then it is necessary to catch and finish specifically the customers and instigators. The rest of the herd will scatter on its own.
  69. 0
    26 December 2013 13: 08
    Captain Vrungel. This is probably an inevitable historical process. B from Odessa, and how do you know about the Alai bazaar? Perhaps you are also a migrant, like Zhirinovsky. But seriously, I think that only America and China benefit from escalating the national question, since they want to destroy Russia, just as they destroyed the USSR. I agree with you that all visitors, wherever they have not been, respect local customs, laws and honor them. This also applies to others who live and work in the CIS. We lived normally in the USSR, we all defended it in the Great Patriotic War, served in the Soviet Army.
  70. -9
    26 December 2013 13: 20
    You look at all this and understand why atheism was professed in the USSR. My opinion: it all starts with history books. I judge by myself. I remember reading at school about the Tatar-Mongol yoke and being so offended for our ancestors, and when victories were won with such pride) some Caucasian or Tatar boy read about the Russian victory over the Tatars or some people of the Caucasus and most likely experienced similar feelings, some desire for revenge, because in the end it was the Russians who won) that’s the beginning. It is probably necessary to destroy all information about history before 1917 and create a new history from that time. In the USSR there was a working class and nothing more, profess what you want, but everyone was united precisely as the working class, against a common enemy - the bourgeoisie, who were destroyed in the country at the beginning of the formation of the state..
    1. uhjpysq1
      -10
      26 December 2013 14: 37
      )Tatar-Russian "We've been fucking you for 300 years." Russian-Tatar “and we’re fucking you now.” so you, creep: Kommersant, are absolutely right. The school curriculum needs to be changed and history should be studied according to Gumilyov, who is himself from the Tatars)
  71. +11
    26 December 2013 13: 20
    You know what, dear Muslims, take care of yourself, first. There will be no Islamophobia if you do not dance in ecstasy when several thousand people die in the twin towers, you do not cut off the heads of living prisoners, you do not eat human flesh, even if this person is your enemy, you do not blow up your women and children in the crowd , you will stop wrapping girls in burqas, you will renounce the global caliphate, you will stop firing weapons anywhere out of joy, you will stop dancing in the center of cities in front of amazed people with your energetic and not entirely understandable dances, you will stop grabbing a knife or pistol if you have been told that it is unacceptable your behavior according to the customs in force in these places, and the rest goes on the list.
    Would you say that you personally don’t do that!!!? then why is it enough to shout: “Allah Akbar!!” and everyone will repeat as usual, despite the fact that the speaker has just called for killing infidels, expelling them from their lands, and so on, and praise to Allah sounds like complete agreement?
    Decide!!
    Islam is a peaceful religion, be righteous Muslims, not savage savages, and then there will be no Islamophobia. What you call Islamophobia is a call to be decent, virtuous, civilized people who respect people of other faiths.
    1. +1
      26 December 2013 13: 43
      Are there any Muslims here who danced in ecstasy? Do not confuse wild Arabs and Muslims in general.
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      2. +7
        26 December 2013 16: 13
        Read the post again.
        I know that there are quite respectable Muslims, they are among my friends, but doesn’t belonging to a religion under whose flag horrific atrocities are committed impose responsibility for this, doesn’t silent neutrality in such matters mean sympathy? Something I haven’t heard is that any of the Islamic spiritual leaders called for jihad with those savages who give Islam the glory of being a religion of terrorists. But when, say, in Russia they began to soak this evil spirits in the toilet, the entire Islamic world began to shout that our brothers in Russia were being killed!! I repeat once again, It’s time to decide!
    2. 0
      26 December 2013 14: 02
      No need to be so indiscriminate.
      Who was there in the Brest Fortress, including holding the defense?
      Who has “God with us” on the plaque?
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      2. +3
        26 December 2013 16: 24
        In the Brest Fortress there were no Muslims, no Christians, no Buddhists; there were Soviet people there, and their attitude towards each other did not depend on what god they worshiped. They all merrily clapped their hands when a young Muslim danced the Lezginka, a Jew danced 7-40, a Russian danced a lady or an apple. They had a common homeland and Muslims lived in peace next to the Russians both on the primordially Russian lands and on the primordially Islamic lands. Better remember who defended himself in the hospital in Budenovsk and what they shouted.
        1. kodar
          0
          27 December 2013 00: 50
          This was also the case under Stalin. And now you can tell how many Russian families returned to Grozny, Gudermes or Nazran. And if they call, then the Russians will never return and will not go, so why the hell remember the Brest Fortress, don’t touch the sacred with your paws.
          1. +2
            27 December 2013 10: 21
            .
            Quote: Begemot
            In the Brest Fortress there were no Muslims, no Christians, no Buddhists, there were Soviet people there

            Yeah, and they were born in an incubator from the same laying hen. They had the same language, the same family structure. National cultural clones.
            You, Behemoth, will decide.
            Then you say indiscriminately that Muslims cut off heads and dance on the ruins.
            Then you have friends among these cannibals.
            They are generally good people, but their religion is not that...
            What religion they have is also not important, but what is important is that
            Quote: Begemot
            They had a common homeland and Muslims lived in peace next to the Russians both on the primordially Russian lands and on the primordially Islamic lands

            I don’t know who you are based on your passport, but according to your convictions, you are a provocateur. Blaming everyone according to religious principles.
            Keyboard organizer of the Crusades.

            Quote: Begemot
            Better remember who defended himself in the hospital in Budenovsk and what they shouted

            You’d better remember the religion of those who created the mess in the country, and not the consequences of that mess.
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          3. 0
            27 December 2013 10: 51
            Kodar,
            Quote: kodar
            This was also the case under Stalin. And now you can tell how many Russian families returned to Grozny, Gudermes or Nazran. And if they call, the Russians will never return and will not go

            Not now.
            It is very easy to start national-religious hostility and let other generations finish it.
            Then, perhaps, there will be a person like Stalin, capable of equally firmly clamping the eggs in the vice of the Orthodox and the Orthodox.
            Then we will dance in chorus “Lezghin lady”.
            But it seems to me that it would be better to judge and reward a person according to his deeds, and not according to his beliefs.

            Quote: kodar
            so why the hell remember the Brest Fortress

            Firstly, to build the future, you need to see the positive in the past.

            Quote: kodar
            do not touch the sacred with your paws.

            Indeed, even the faithful are involved in the sacred. Remember this. Don't bite with your claws.
  72. Power
    +6
    26 December 2013 13: 42
    If the rally is “Caucasian”, then why is it in Moscow? Liberal provocation and setup. When you come to a foreign country, respect its customs. And if you bought an official or a cop, don’t think that Rus' is in your pocket. Let them gather to be angrier. It is in vain that Jews and Muslims anger the “Russian Bear.” It will come out sideways.
  73. tverskoi77
    +2
    26 December 2013 13: 51
    Analyzing the articles on our website, I come to the conclusion that there is a “struggle between the people and the authorities.” The authorities are trying by all possible means to destroy Russian culture and replace it with Raassians and are pursuing a policy of adapting the original Russian territories to Islam and e-Mingants. At the same time, lowering the status of Russians in order to be able to express slogans that the Russian Federation, without visitors, will suffocate and die. The statements of ordinary users who clearly have no professional relationship with the formation of articles and comments are in many ways the opposite!
  74. +5
    26 December 2013 14: 19
    Quote: Warrawar
    Quote: nemec55
    Recently I watched a report on YouTube by Marat Musin, he foreshadows the bloody events for 2014 and he himself suffers from the inaction of our mummies. Everything that happened in Syria before the war, he sees it with us now. The Syrians themselves say <why your military is not with us now what to learn> And we have no tolerance and transmission


    Here is this presentation:


    What were the first and second Caucasian ones??? I know that there was a first and a second Chechen company, but I haven’t heard about the Caucasian one yet.

    I advise you to see everyone.
  75. 0
    26 December 2013 14: 21
    Quote: nemec55
    Quote: Warrawar
    Quote: A.YARY
    I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!

    Ardent, don't you know that only Russians are imprisoned under Article 282. This article is also called "Russian article" in another way.

    Yeah, and we Germans, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Latvians, etc., pat on the head straight /

    Well, no need. The police will not understand - he is European, of Slavic appearance, which means he is Russian. Well, maybe the Jews will be able to protect themselves from this... They will still be able to distinguish a Russian from a Ukrainian in court))
  76. +4
    26 December 2013 14: 24
    Quote: Strength
    If the rally is “Caucasian”, then why is it in Moscow? Liberal provocation and setup. When you come to a foreign country, respect its customs. And if you bought an official or a cop, don’t think that Rus' is in your pocket. Let them gather to be angrier. It is in vain that Jews and Muslims anger the “Russian Bear.” It will come out sideways.

    I completely agree with you, but if you can’t stop the rally, it will backfire on them.
  77. +1
    26 December 2013 14: 27
    “Today, time is working against the will of the Russian people, therefore, understanding the meaning of the events taking place on Earth and determining the ideology of the future is the most important and urgent task, without which any movement towards the good of the country and the good of the world is impossible...” (c)
    The state must take care of children, otherwise this most important function of care will be taken over by completely different political forces and structures. And they have already achieved a lot in this direction. This is evidenced by the fact that it is young people who form the social basis of various kinds of extremist structures, including the proclaimed jamaats in the North Caucasus. The age of the majority is from 18 to 30 years. (c)
    A. deRichelieu: “There is no need to see evil if there is no desire to fight it”...
    1. Power
      +4
      26 December 2013 14: 54
      Previously, all sorts of Rothschilds and Morgans fanned the fire of the world proletarian revolution, now that the entire proletariat has become Chinese, they are trying to fool the heads of Islamic youth. The goal remains the same, to pit everyone against everyone - divide and conquer. Reduce the population and plunge people into a primitive state. And in the depths of the subconscious lies the eternal fear of the Jew that “there is not enough food for everyone.”
  78. Unknown
    0
    26 December 2013 14: 30
    Why have ISLAMIC DOGS completely stopped being afraid of our nationals?!
    1. uhjpysq1
      +1
      26 December 2013 15: 05
      This is their challenge to fight!
  79. +1
    26 December 2013 14: 39
    Did you want a Caucasian rally in Moscow? Islamophobia, do you see? Russian fascism? No guys, this is nothing yet, what are you. When you remember everything that is written about in D. Sokolov-Mitrich’s book “Non-Tajik Girls. Non-Chechen Boys,” then I think you will not think about rallies in Moscow, but about much more pressing and simple things. In their villages.
  80. +6
    26 December 2013 14: 43
    It doesn’t matter how many of them come out, or whether they come out at all. As long as they behave like medieval apes, they will be perceived as such.
  81. +2
    26 December 2013 14: 56
    Quote: vlad0
    It is doubtful about the rally, and about a million. But the very fact of such "stuffing" is already alarming. Reminds me of probing public opinion before some planned event.

    It is outrageous that our rulers have taken the ostrich pose and it seems they will not change their position until the rooster pecks, but then a sea of ​​blood will be shed. But in vain some people think that they can bring the Russians to their knees, we are not afraid, we endure as long as we have patience, but God forbid when it bursts.
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  83. +8
    26 December 2013 15: 13
    I probably don’t understand the essence of the question well, but I don’t understand how representatives of other states plus representatives of a confession that does not determine the country can gather in the heart of the Russian state and Orthodoxy, almost at the Orthodox Shrine (St. Basil’s Cathedral) and demand something???? ?????.............Well, let's try something similar in the Emirates, and in Dagestan...............Well there must be a limit to everything......both tolerance and long-suffering...IMHO from the heart!
    1. +3
      26 December 2013 15: 47
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      I probably don’t understand the essence of the question well, but I don’t understand how representatives of other states plus representatives of a confession that does not determine the country can gather in the heart of the Russian state and Orthodoxy, almost at the Orthodox Shrine (St. Basil’s Cathedral) and demand something???? ?????.............Well, let's try something similar in the Emirates, and in Dagestan...............Well there must be a limit to everything......both tolerance and long-suffering...IMHO from the heart!


      from Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, there is no problem with gasters at all, despite the fact that the natives do not work.
      It's simple - all foreign workers live on reservations.
      even brothers in faith.
      exit from the camp is limited by the length of the working day. everything is recorded electronically, the price of which is mere pennies.
      eg Taxi drivers in the emirates are 100% foreign workers. taxi driver shift 7 hours. If after eight hours he has not checked in with a magnetic card at the entrance to the reservation, he is automatically put on the wanted list.
      everything is simple.

      I can’t imagine an Uzbek on the street with a bottle of beer - that’s two months in prison as a minimum + fine (not 500 rubles).
  84. +9
    26 December 2013 15: 16
    Quote: bomg.77
    Why not Caucasians? Kuban, Terek, Don

    RUSSIAN Cossacks defended the borders of RUSSIA for many years, including in the Caucasus, in tsarist times they were one of the most combat-ready troops, Cossacks served all their lives, at the age of three they put a boy on a horse, they lived on the border, immediately sowed grain and at the same time fought with the highlanders, since the villages were border posts, in addition, they were also conscripted into the regular army, into Cossack units, there is still a memory of them in geyrop, for example, “bistro” from Russian quickly)), and the Cossack arrived at the unit with with your horse, weapons and uniform! I’m from Kuban, my ancestors are Don, Terek, and Kuban Cossacks, and even now in the villages the men are not capital liberals, they need to plow the land, but they need to take a machine gun, almost all of my classmates went through the first Chechen war, and the younger ones went through the second, we have from the army It’s not customary to make excuses - it’s a shame, but Caucasians understand and most importantly RESPECT ONLY POWER, if you show weakness you’ll immediately rush
  85. +7
    26 December 2013 15: 20
    Yes, the coat of arms of Russia has deep symbolism, where a horseman kills a snake.
    Good conquers evil.

    The state must defend itself.
    Must be "fire spear included" burning out all the evil that envelops Russia.
    If previously the threat was the internal “fifth column” of the liberal persuasion, now the merging of radical, political Islam with the executive, legislative and judicial authorities is becoming more and more clearly visible.
    It's time to reassess who leads us, who teaches us, treats us, judges us and determines state policy.
    If this is not done now, then tomorrow we can wake up in an Islamic caliphate, the implementation of medieval Sharia laws, in the next room there will be a sister in a hijab, and in the madrasah our children will be taught by an Arab preacher from Saudi Arabia. am
  86. +3
    26 December 2013 15: 22
    The Caucasus is testing our strength to decide what to do next: respect and fear the authorities and people of Russia, or try to wipe our feet on it
  87. +4
    26 December 2013 15: 28
    “If the Russians are so stupid that they try to restore their empire, they will run into such conflicts that Chechnya and Afghanistan will seem like a picnic to them” Z. Brzezinski.
    Well, who says that this hawk is just wagging his tongue?!
    1. Clegg
      +1
      26 December 2013 16: 34
      Quote: Z.O.V.
      Well, who says that this hawk is just wagging his tongue?!

      The Olympics are approaching
    2. 0
      26 December 2013 22: 52
      I think he says this for us (to sow uncertainty and fear in us) so that we do not restore the empire, but they (the West) are already afraid of this.
  88. +8
    26 December 2013 15: 30
    January 26 is approaching - a terrible day for Moscow and the Kremlin authorities, when on Manezhnaya Square the united forces of nationalists from the Caucasus, Tatarstan and migrants from Central Asia who have joined them plan to hold a rally against “Islamophobia”. According to the organizers, up to a million (!) people will come to the demonstration.
    The main news is that Tatar nationalists are not only ready to support the action in Moscow, but are calling on migrants from Central Asia to support their brothers in faith and take to the streets.
    It is obvious that the initiative will also be supported by representatives of the Russian “fifth column” - liberals and left-wing radicals. Thus, one of the organizers of the “swamp movement” in Moscow, Sergei Udaltsov, and the leader of the Tatar nationalist movement “Azatlyk” Nail Nabiullin exchanged statements in support of each other. Udaltsov saw a “sound grain” in Tatar national separatism, and Nabiullin, in turn, declared support for the “swamp people”, since the movement of the “white ribbon people” was aimed “for the benefit of the Tatar people.”
    And why? Yes, because the government has not been doing any work on the national issue for more than two decades; Russia does not have a single state-forming ideology. Therefore, representatives of the Western and Islamic project in Russia have great success. A holy place is never empty. It’s simple: either the state carries out long-term work to educate patriots of their Fatherland and itself tries to get closer to the model of an “ideal state and society,” or Western and Eastern (Islamic) value systems will destroy Russian civilization. It should be noted here that with such terrible social division and the dominance of large comprador capital, as in Russia, the propaganda of positive patriotic values ​​will not be successful, since words will not coincide with deeds. Only when the political “elite” of Russia itself tries to get closer to the ideals of self-restraint, humanity and justice, becoming a real elite, the best part of society, will the unity of power and society be possible (for example, the Stalinist USSR).
    The upcoming action on January 26 takes on special symbolism given the participation of members of the radical Tatar movement “Azatlyk” (“Freedom”). The national-separatist movement in its essence is actively trying to master the field of Islamic unity. The situation in Tatarstan speaks to the danger of this trend. The free action in Russia of the bearers of the “Islamic project” resulted in the creation of a powerful Salafi and Wahhabi underground and as a result: terrorist attacks and murders of spiritual leaders throughout the country, arson of churches in Tatarstan and Hizb-ut-Tahrir car rallies. The trend is very dangerous and even deadly. Its development guarantees rivers of blood.
    The Kremlin’s trouble is that the prevailing opinion that no one can destroy interfaith peace in our country is naive and fundamentally wrong. Look at Syria, where Muslims and Christians lived side by side in peace and harmony for 1 years, and the radicals only had one year to blow up the country and fill it with blood. We are gradually approaching the new year 500 or 1917.
  89. +7
    26 December 2013 15: 51
    Quote: Warrawar
    Ardent, don't you know that only Russians are imprisoned under Article 282. This article is also called "Russian article" in another way.

    Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation was called the “Russian article” because 99.8% of those convicted under this article are ethnic Russians. Any mention of the rights of Russians, their responsibility for the fate of Russia is perceived as illegal, after which repressions are launched, criminal cases are initiated “for anti-Semitism”, and provocations are carried out with impunity. The notorious Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation has become a purely Russian article, only Russians are prosecuted under it, although tens of thousands of facts are known about the oppression of Russians in the republics of the North Caucasus, their expulsion from their native places, but there is not a single case of prosecution for this under Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation . What is this if not discrimination based on nationality?
  90. +2
    26 December 2013 15: 58
    I propose combining a Muslim rally with a gay pride parade! And show it to sponsors in the Middle East and other sponsors in Geyrop! Our country's ratings will increase significantly! wassat
  91. +3
    26 December 2013 16: 20
    Quote: shtanko.49
    It is outrageous that our rulers have taken the ostrich pose and it seems they will not change their position until the rooster pecks, but then a sea of ​​blood will be shed. But in vain some people think that they can bring the Russians to their knees, we are not afraid, we endure as long as we have patience, but God forbid when it bursts.

    Most of our rulers (pests) hope to escape in time. Oh well.
  92. Leshka
    +1
    26 December 2013 16: 26
    If we don’t change our policy, then everything will be ruined for us
    1. +2
      26 December 2013 16: 42
      We need to change our policies. So Sergei Razumovsky decided to organize an educational program about what is now happening here and in Ukraine. He spoke harshly about Western plans in Ukraine and organized the CASCADE lecture hall. After the first lecture I got hit on the head.



      So that in the future no one gets hit on the head, we need to give a mass scale to those things that they want to hide from us, and not hope that one single person can change something.

      Changes, first of all, must come in our heads. We must stop relying on power and start winning our first small victories on the ground. We need to start with our own heads and change our Sovovo-Erafi idea of ​​the world
  93. townspeople
    +2
    26 December 2013 17: 45
    Quote: A.YARY
    “Azatlyk” (“Freedom”) noted that he organized a series of actions “in defense of constitutional rights Muslims»

    I wonder where the arrests are. The article for burning here just screams with good obscenities!
    So where are the arrests ?!
    Or only Russians allow themselves to be fanned according to the authorities ?!
    Where are the arrests I ask ?!
    Why are these valorous policemen not dubbing these animals ?!
    Only Russian can meet Dubov ?!
    This is such an abomination gave such an order ?!
    Think about it, because soon,very soon it may become completely x-new!


    How will the Gebe arrest itself?)))
    Now the Caucasians, who have been dragged to the capital in countless numbers, themselves learn about their “millionth rally” from the same KGB-Vrunet and the media as the local public.
    It is the media, the political network and the KGB who are straining to collect them.
    Simultaneously depicting “Wahhabism”, “Islamism” and “terrorism” in productions.
    For the desired massacre-massacre-emergency and the junta regime.
    And the productions are falling apart.
    Nobody believed in the Volgograd one.
    I had to quickly turn around.
    Depict “the destruction of the chief Wahhabi bomber Sokolov,” “close the case,” and forget.
    The “Kazan production” didn’t work out at all from the very beginning. They also messed up on the Kazan field, where details of a completely different side got into the lens, and the video of the “Kazan pike” was not very successful in remaking from the Perm 2008 one -
    http://gorojanin-iz-b.livejournal.com/67382.html
    The Kazan false collapse is about to burst.


    *
    Dismiss the entire department for Islamism-terrorism in its entirety - and there will be no Islamism.
  94. +4
    26 December 2013 18: 15
    Reconnaissance?
    If something happens, then the urgent adoption of the long-awaited law "On the prohibition of Wahhabism and other ..." of all Tajiks and whoever else will take part on board our ship, troops in Dagestan and the planned harsh cleansing of the territory, the elimination of radical movements in Tatarstan that Everyone knows them, but for some reason they can’t find them. The time of blah, blah, blah, has passed, it’s time to show not just strength, but a classic operation, lightning fast, simultaneous across the entire territory of Russia. If this does not happen, the situation will rapidly intensify...
    1. 0
      26 December 2013 18: 47
      Quote: Savva30
      elimination of radical movements in Tatarstan that are known to everyone, but for some reason cannot be found

      These movements (like many supposedly “Russian” ones) are very necessary for someone in Moscow. If things were different, there would be no currents.
  95. +1
    26 December 2013 18: 50
    Udaltsov climbs into all holes, if only the West pays the money...
    Any DESTABILIZATION in the country is just to undermine the connection between the government and the people's will!
    Don't confuse home and guests...
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  97. -1
    26 December 2013 19: 04
    I lived in Kyrgyzstan for 9 years and left when the pogroms began!
    Now not only Kyrgyz, but also Uzbeks, Armenians, Tajiks, Kazakhs, etc. come to Russia to work.
    If on December 26 Russian citizens who have Russian citizenship - who profess Islam - come to the square, they will be worthy people, but there will be significantly less than a million of them, as some are prophesying....
  98. +1
    26 December 2013 19: 21
    I am a resident of Kazan. And Kryash-Serda is my ancestral village. I didn’t notice the Wahhabis there. Although in Kazan there are more and more people dressed in Muslim clothes. I doubt that a massacre is possible here. And a bunch of cogs won’t make a difference. I have friends and relatives of different religions and that I will go kill my loved ones. nonsense.
  99. -10
    26 December 2013 21: 00
    I read all this and somehow I felt sad and started to dream... I dream:

    - so that all peoples of the world speak the same language;
    - so that all religions in the world would disappear and only one faith would remain - faith in God;
    - so that scientists all over the world work for the benefit of the people, and not for their destruction;
    - so that borders disappear - these pens for slaves and designations of the fiefdom of slavery;
    - so that textbooks are the same throughout the world and the development of civilizations proceeds evenly;
    - so that the cities that break the psyche of people and give rise to dependents and perverts would disappear;
    - so that greed, envy, meanness would disappear and peace would come throughout the world...
    Maybe I don’t dream about so much...

    And in order for emigrants to voluntarily leave the vast expanses of our homeland, all that is needed is to equalize the salary here with the salary in the places of their permanent residence or lower it even lower.
    (a citizen’s well-being does not depend on the presence of banknotes in his wallet)
    1. +2
      26 December 2013 22: 57
      This is what the Bolsheviks - revolutionaries - thought, and as a result, the Russian Orthodox state with traditions perished, and now if you defend Russianness, then you are a scoundrel (or a provocateur, as Putin said), blood flowed like a river into the civil war, better let's value what is ours and not give it to anyone.
  100. +1
    26 December 2013 21: 26
    Quote: Basileus
    This is what we think in Kazan and Ufa. That all people are brothers, that we are one nation. And in the regions where mostly Russians live, there is such xenophobia that you begin to understand all sorts of scumbags from Azatlyk and other Kuk Bure.


    I live in the Tver region. I don’t think badly about the Tatars and Bashkirs. Our peoples have gone through so much together that it will only drive a wedge between us.
    1. Shur
      +1
      26 December 2013 23: 24
      From Kazan? Do you think there is “one nation”? There is no need to distort reality, half of my class in 91 sat with TOC crusts and made faces in Russian lessons. Not everyone is like this, but this example is enough: - “During the lesson, teacher Rosa F. publicly declared, “You Russians will soon be hanged on poles.” I heard this myself. So you're in a strong pink fog. I have a lot of Tatar friends, they themselves talk about such people as scumbags. But since then, there has been more and more Russophobia in Tatarstan. The very fact of an openly hostile, public statement like “Russian pig” does not surprise anyone here. By the way, there is a point in favor of Muslims (including newly converted Russians) - they think that the nationalists must be ended. So they are their temporary travel companions. In front of me, one “knowledgeable” Muslim Tatar staged such a showdown with another Tatar for a disrespectful statement about a Russian, that mother, don’t worry.. In Russian, I only heard: “Do you consider my Russian Muslim brother inferior to you?” He took him out and “taught him life” for a long time in Tatar. But not everyone is like that. The Russians are being squeezed out to a greater extent.