CSTO will resist color coups

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CSTO will resist color coups


A little time has passed since the time of the so-called color revolutions. All of them ended in failure: Mikhail Saakashvili left in disgrace under the hooting of his own former comrades-in-arms, Kurmanbek Bakiyev was driven away by force, and only Viktor Yushchenko was lucky - he was even given a chance to save face, but he did not use this opportunity. It seemed that this will not happen again. And suddenly - a relapse, and even some. The intervention of the West in recent events in Ukraine was so obvious and rude that only the blind could not see it. It turns out that the civil unrest in the Ukrainian scenario is now becoming a new threat to the post-Soviet republics? What to oppose to this challenge?

The essence of "color technology"

Actually, the use of political opposition in the interests of the enemy is an ancient and proven method. Its run-in took place in Africa and the Middle East during the Cold War, it suffices to recall the weapons of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan or the UNITA and FNLA groups in Angola.

But times are changing, and instead of gross interference in the internal affairs of modern states, “soft”, almost bloodless options are being practiced - color revolutions concocted along the lines of Czechoslovakia. In fact, such revolutions are not properly called revolutions, since, apart from a sharp destabilization and a change in foreign policy, no revolutionary changes result. And the goal of color upheavals is not a revolutionary transformation of social, economic or political relations, but, as at the last meeting of the CSTO, Nikolay Bordyuzha, the secretary general of this organization, correctly noted, the disintegration of the state.

Color upheavals are one of the tools for implementing divide and conquer policy. Europe and the United States can easily dictate their terms to disunited peoples. To sow enmity between people and reap its fruits - the favorite methods of Western politicians.

What is a color coup? Nikolai Bordyuzha in his last statement gave a good description of this type of intervention. First of all, Western nongovernmental agents and the media are carrying out long preparatory work related to the promotion of liberal ideology within the country of the victim. As a rule, such work turns out to be especially effective in states with weak power structures.

The main support of the invaders - the youth and opposition parties. But the initiation of strikes and riots is not the main element of the coup. If possible, the provocateurs will try to find somewhere a bloody victim, and the sadder it turns out story her death, the greater the resonance provided. Maybe the victim will not be at all. But the tragic story must appear!

However, the last word belongs to the West. When human rights defenders convoke, and they will be repeated by a crowd warmed up by provocateurs, Washington, Brussels and the Western capitals will support the “revolutionaries” in a united front. And not in words, but in deeds, sending their emissaries to the sacrificial country along with the noble donations of international foundations “to the establishment of democracy”.

As a result, the state plunges into the abyss of crisis and finds itself on the verge of civil war; international control is needed to stabilize the situation. This is where Western political “peacemakers” appear, who eagerly crush the state for themselves and turn it into another semi-colony.

How to stop the "export of the revolution"?


What can we oppose to the technology of color upheavals? First of all, we must remember the main principle of the West - divide and conquer. It means that we are required to show cohesion not only at the national, but also at the international level.

Color coup is intervention. Accordingly, a state in turmoil must also receive outside support to resist the interventionists. Unfortunately, the organizers of the coups do not make any concessions and do not retreat from their goals, so they are ready to initiate even a civil war in the ridden republic. Thus, the ideal option, when the victim country, besides political, in case of emergency, will be provided with military assistance.

We already have an international structure capable of becoming an effective shield. This is about the CSTO.

This organization is great for arresting threats of a different nature, ranging from direct military invasion to terrorist attacks. Now the main problem for Russia is information security, since the West is brainwashing through the media and NGOs. So, attention should be paid to the introduction of information technology in the field of national security.

As practice has shown, the export of color coups is possible, so the CIS countries must act together against the coup-puppet. Saakashvili, the protagonist of the Rose Revolution, for some reason, sent strong Georgian guys to Ukraine in 2010 for some reason. Just before the presidential election. And now he is standing on Independence shoulder to shoulder with the Russian extra-systemic opposition. Does this not mean that the West has managed to form a whole International of “color revolutionaries”?

The CSTO is able to resist this pseudo-international. Through the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a dialogue can be established between the security services of the CIS countries. The exchange of experience would be very useful, since no one is immune from the intervention.

The CSTO member countries have already held a joint meeting to discuss the problem of the western invasion of the post-Soviet space in the light of recent events in Ukraine. As a result of the discussion, it was decided to develop counter-propaganda tools designed to neutralize the threat from foreign NGOs and the media. In addition, the CSTO members called on Russia to more resolutely influence the internal political life of the CIS states.

In the future, these decisions will form the basis for the creation within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization of international structures capable of providing effective resistance to Western interventionists. In addition, Russia will have to revise its foreign policy doctrine, intensifying efforts in the post-Soviet space. We should not ignore the events that occur in neighboring countries, otherwise we will not be taken seriously.

We already have support from the CSTO member countries. In the case of the next sabbath, they will act as a united front against the Western invaders, standing up for the defense of the constitutional order and rendering the necessary political and humanitarian assistance to the victim country of the West. Having external support, the state covered by the revolutionary plague will not be defeated at the feet of the interventionists.

Mutual assistance should be the basis of Russian foreign policy. Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan - members of the CSTO - should join Ukraine. The latter is one of the most vulnerable countries in the post-Soviet space, so that, having non-aligned status, it has no chance of survival. It turned out, lightning beats twice in one place. This should be a signal for the Ukrainian political leadership: it's time to take care that there is no third Maidan in the country. Ukraine needs stability! And the CSTO is the very structure that could provide this stability.
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  1. +34
    25 December 2013 09: 25
    Counteraction to color revolutions should begin with toughening existing legislation. Be it the "revolution of roses", "ties" or "darned g's", its essence does not change from this - this is an attempt at a STATE DATE - with all that it implies ...
    1. +32
      25 December 2013 09: 29
      On Tuesday, the deputy chairman of the Party of Regions faction Oleg Tsarev said that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and the SBU had granted his request to ban entry to Ukraine for 36 people. Foreign Minister Leonid Kozhara on Tuesday admitted that he really received the request, but he refused to confirm that the deputy’s demand was supported by the government.

      As the newspaper VZGLYAD previously reported, the request was sent on December 9th. The list of Tsarev included citizens of the United States, Germany, Serbia and Georgia, including ex-president Mikheil Saakashvili, whom the deputy suspected of “consultations of the opposition to destabilize the situation in the country.”

      The list is dominated by citizens of Georgia and the United States. So, Tsarev proposed banning the entry to the country of former senior officials of the Saakashvili regime, for example, George Targamadze and David Sakvarelidze. Among US citizens, Fink Brown, Vasilik Miron, and Ros Alexander were mentioned. Also on the list were Serbs Ivko Markovic and Briton Taras Cusio.



      http://vz.ru/news/2013/12/24/665913.html

      1. +4
        25 December 2013 10: 08
        Quote: GreatRussia
        On Tuesday, the deputy chairman of the Party of Regions faction Oleg Tsarev said that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and the SBU had granted his request to ban entry to Ukraine for 36 people.

        Hurried O. Tsarev! I still understand why he put Saakishvili on the list with a bunch of journalists, but Andreas Umland ... - in vain!
        Andreas Umland - Member of the Expert Council of the Parliamentary Committee on European Integration. "I was surprised that I was on this list - I am not involved in political activities, but work at a university, where I write and edit academic articles. I wrote most of the critical articles addressed to the Svoboda party," Umland said.
        The expert believes that the ban on entry is not related to his criticism of the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych or the government. If the information about the ban is confirmed, he intends to challenge the decision of the Ukrainian authorities in court. "
        http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/241854
        It is possible and necessary to criticize our president, the main thing is HOW to do it. And the one who criticizes "Svoboda" could be supported. IMHO
        1. +7
          25 December 2013 10: 35
          Quote: Egoza
          Hurried O. Tsarev! I still understand why he put Saakishvili on the list with a bunch of journalists, but Andreas Umland ... - in vain!

          Really? How, then, can the anti-Russian statements of this "leader" be interpreted differently if not anti-Russian?

          Tsarev deliberately discredits Ukraine in the interests of Russia - Umland.

          I think that this is connected not so much with my teaching as with my comments in the international and Ukrainian press. I did not engage in political, social, or civic activities. These are probably comments, and perhaps this is also due to the fact that I criticized Ukraine’s ties with the Customs Union, called on the EU to impose sanctions against Russiaif it imposes sanctions against Ukraine. Tsarev has sympathy for Russia, and perhaps this is due to this, "the political scientist noted.http://gazeta.ua/ru/articles/politics/_carev-vedet-celenapravlennuyu-diskreditac
          iyu-ukrainy-v-interesah-rossii-umland / 533734
          1. +3
            25 December 2013 10: 40
            Quote: Egoza
            Hurried O. Tsarev

            Quote: GreatRussia

            Tsarev deliberately discredits Ukraine in the interests of Russia - Umland.

            Something the last name of Tsarev has more than often been seen lately, although not long ago no one knew her. A new president of Ukraine is emerging, or how to understand it request
            1. sincman
              +10
              25 December 2013 11: 30
              In the history of states, at the most critical moments, there have always been adequates capable of leading the so urgently needed opposition to the impending turmoil. And very often individuals who were widely unknown to the countryside can do this! Ukraine is no exception. Tsarev had previously shown himself as an adequate politician advocating fraternal relations between Ukraine and the countries of the CU, but due to natural modesty he avoided unnecessary publicity. However, his finest hour came when Maidan provocations followed one after another, while the pro-government Party of Regions was completely confused, the government quieted down, and the president urgently left for China. Some members of the party even began to leave it, confident of the victory of the "revolution". The rest were silent, waiting for further developments. And only Tsarev went against the media machine completely controlled by the West, debunking myths one after another on those few available media resources and blogs. He was the only one who visited and supported the crippled fighters of the Berkut and VV in the hospital, when the rest of the government turned away from them as from the plague in the hope of absolving themselves of all responsibility for the alleged illegal actions of the security forces. Well, a bunch of his other actions and statements, small and large, supported in adequate Ukrainians the hope of preventing the worst scenario in Ukraine. Now his speeches may seem like PR to many, but it didn’t seem like that at the very beginning, when Tsarev risked being literally hanged on the Maidan (as the revolutionaries themselves threatened) if the force scenario had succeeded and the "peaceful revolution" had won! And whether he will become president in the future - time will tell, but I have no doubts that he is worthy of it!
              1. GastaClaus69
                0
                25 December 2013 18: 04
                And are you tired of looking for decent people among the mongrel? My IMHO in Ukraine now there is not a single politician worthy of becoming president only corrupt creatures from the president to the last deputy from the opposition. It would be my will, I would dig 450 with the whole retinue and the cabinet for the ribs and on the hook so that others would not be happy to trade the Motherland!
                1. sincman
                  0
                  26 December 2013 00: 34
                  They’re mongrels, they all run around and bark here and there, and I wrote about a worthy man!
              2. +1
                26 December 2013 01: 17
                Yes, even before the Maidan, with Techcamp, as a threat to Ukraine, he tried to shout to everyone. Only not much was shown on TV. and the Internet.
                And he clearly lacks debate experience, especially when the Sobolev Jesuits are sitting opposite. pinsenki and so on.
                But what I remember for sure - he was the first in this Maydanobil tele-Internet psychosis who insisted that Maidan is not all of Ukraine.
        2. saber1357
          +2
          26 December 2013 00: 03
          In, brother, well, you are naive, you just caused a wild laugh with your comment ... Mark the key phrase: "... I work at the university, where I write and edit academic articles ..". Have you heard of Gene Sharpe, for example? he has been doing "research work" in the field of international relations at Harvard University for over 30 years. Yes, this is the most dangerous public - ideologists.
          1. Shur
            +2
            26 December 2013 00: 41
            Yes, they must "accidentally" choke on their morning coffee ..
      2. +5
        25 December 2013 12: 30
        For some reason, the names of Yushchenko, Klitschko, Lutsenko and others like them are not on the list ... request
    2. Cat
      +7
      25 December 2013 11: 25
      Quote: Stiletto
      attempted coup d'etat - with all the consequences ..

      Therein lies the danger that "color" revolutions are made practically by legal methods - with the participation of the parliamentary opposition and legal organizations.
      It seems to me that the special services should be engaged in counteraction, at the very beginning suppressing payments from the outside to corrupt politicians or simply compromising them.
      It is another matter that the SBU, through many years of efforts, has turned into an almost commercial organization that is unable to withstand such threats. And the authority of the authorities is so low that they are simply not sure of the loyalty of the siloviki, and the siloviki do not exclude the possibility that the authorities will simply "merge" them (as the story with "Berkut" showed).
    3. +6
      25 December 2013 12: 55
      Quote: Stiletto
      Counteraction to color revolutions must begin with toughening existing legislation. Whether it is the "revolution of roses", "ties" or "darned g.", Its essence does not change from this - this is an attempt at a STATE DATE - with all that it implies ..

      Eh, it would be nice to "oppose" the color revolution of 1991 .. Gorbach and others in the Kolyma ...
      1. +4
        25 December 2013 21: 05
        Quote: ziqzaq
        Eh, it would be nice to "oppose" the color revolution of 1991 .. Gorbach and others in the Kolyma ...


        Why did Kolyma annoy you so much? What do you want to send Humpbacked there? On Hunchback the gallows cries, not Kolyma.
        1. Jogan-xnumx
          +1
          25 December 2013 23: 54
          Quote: lonely
          Why did Kolyma annoy you so much? What do you want to send Humpbacked there? On Hunchback the gallows cries, not Kolyma.

          good good good And then Kolyma will collapse and sell ... wassat
    4. +1
      25 December 2013 22: 44
      Quote: Stiletto
      Counteraction to color revolutions should begin with toughening existing legislation. Be it the "revolution of roses", "ties" or "darned g's", its essence does not change from this - this is an attempt at a STATE DATE - with all that it implies ...


      By the way, the authorities of the CSTO leaders are already acting on a united front.
      When, I remember, the rebellion was trying to begin in Kazakhstan, a hefty delegation arrived in Moscow (I followed them through covered Moscow from Gagarin Square to the Belorussky Station in 12 minutes laughing ), went like in Zavidovo. Then the Belarusian delegation arrived.
  2. +11
    25 December 2013 09: 26
    The Color Revolutions is the well-known project of the State Department of Washington based on the long-arrogant-Saxon tradition based on meanness, betrayal and other abominations, the essence of which is simple for cheaply buy a couple of dozen gorlopans and organize with their help a rival state a typical theater of absurdity followed by privatization property of the victim from crap.
    You can describe the fight against this evil for a long time, draw graphics, rack your brains, pour a stream of information into people's ears, BUT WHY? Our ancestors of Istari knew how to deal with this evil, and the tools to combat it are as old as the world ... a rope, an ax, a stake, a wheel and other ugliness from butcher's bins, and whoever said that, but only the severity and inevitability of punishment for betrayal can save us from the degenerates living at the expense of enemy states to the detriment of our own country and people.
    1. Pit
      Pit
      +9
      25 December 2013 09: 56
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      Our ancestors of Istari knew how to fight this evil ...

      And besides, the ancestors also knew that, as a rule, geeks are no more than 2% of the total population. So the cry of philanthropists about genocide and brutal repressions will not have any soil under it.
      Rot must be removed immediately, otherwise it has the ability to infect everything around.
      1. +7
        25 December 2013 12: 34
        That's right - with a scalpel and as quickly as possible, otherwise metastases. angry
    2. MBA78
      +4
      25 December 2013 11: 57
      I agree ... they are like roosters who crow in the evening ... such anti-cocks that scream at the wrong time immediately for meat
    3. +2
      25 December 2013 16: 41
      And you don’t have to buy anyone, it just comes, well, or the freak Gorbachev is brought to power and there is no USSR, and there was nothing for him, they punished him with the Nobel Prize and called him the best German of the year. And there are no tools from the arsenal of our ancestors.
  3. +13
    25 December 2013 09: 45
    How lucky the Americans are time after time, the entire elite of both Russia and the countries of Eastern Europe has degraded to the level of intellectual and moral nonentities, so miserable in their attempts to prove the opposite that they are simply amazed, plus they can be bought-sold-resold-resold again - buy again, etc. In general, it is strange that the people tolerate them, as a result, even such once great countries as Germany, France or Great Britain ended up as in that simple truth "A herd of rams headed by a lion will always surpass lions headed by a ram." that people at the helm of US policy (not the president, etc.), i.e. the true masters of the United States are extraordinary and strong-willed people who go to their goal, I think no one doubts, and if it does, then he is "alternatively gifted" and can go to the Maidan or wherever he wants. the top of the EU or Russia, and everything will become clear. In the US, in essence, an "ammorphous mass" which is very accurately and timely directed in the right direction, and in Russia, for example, the initiative from below is extinguished by the "bureaucratic swamp" and then stifled by the bureaucracy.
    1. +2
      25 December 2013 12: 38
      Quote: Standard Oil
      How fortunate the Americans were over and over again, the entire elite of both Russia and the countries of Eastern Europe degraded to the level of intellectual and moral insignificance,

      An indispensable condition for the success of the color revolution is the latent bringing to power of political and ideological moral and intellectual freaks in the country chosen as the victim.
    2. +2
      25 December 2013 17: 00
      IMHO we don’t need to nod at the bureaucratic bog, we ourselves have turned into an amorphous mass, we allow the authorities and officials to do what they do, I don’t have a prescription for what to do, but I think to do something, otherwise we already lost one country, as if Do not lose another while sitting on the Internet.
  4. ed65b
    +1
    25 December 2013 09: 52
    all this is wonderful and wonderful, but there is doubt that the CSTO will be able to actually realize the different interests of its members and ambitions that were conceived. For example, Kazakhstan will constantly wag its tail, because the only reason for its existence in this structure is to hide behind the power of the Russian army to solve its problems in connection with the tension in the situation in Afghanistan after the withdrawal of NATO forces from there. Belarus is the western direction and settlement of the Lukashenko regime, Armenia-Karabakh and possible confrontation with Azerbaijan. There remains Russia - a cork in a barrel of which all kinds of holes will be shut up.
    1. Guun
      +6
      25 December 2013 10: 22
      The threat of the Taliban is a myth for us (Uzbeks and Tajiks from the Taliban will go to their homes but not to us - why to us? Sense?). There are radicals, we fight and win - but you have much more radicals and the situation is getting worse every day. For us, it is the Caucasus that could blaze again.
      1. 0
        25 December 2013 15: 15
        why to us? Meaning?

        cost turan.
        There are radicals, we fight and win

        according to official figures in Kazakhstan, 5-10% of the total number of Muslims are Salafists (Wahhabis) and their number is increasing. and they are supported by some members of the elite.
        here is more detailed: http://www.centrasia.ru/newsA.php?st=1385455980
        1. Guun
          +3
          25 December 2013 15: 54
          Do not forget that among Muslims - Salafists there is disagreement. Of these, half support Nazarbayev, and the other half against.
          1. +1
            25 December 2013 16: 03
            when necessary, disagreements will go aside and they will act as a united front, because They consider themselves to be real Muslims, and all the rest are infidels, munafiks and Tagut servants. By the way, nobody canceled the principle of "taqiya".
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        3. +2
          25 December 2013 21: 06
          Quote: TS3sta3
          cost turan.


          Wahhabis from the Taliban will build Turan? fool
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          2. 0
            25 December 2013 22: 40
            Yes, indeed, Turan is a Turkish project
          3. 0
            25 December 2013 23: 08
            the Wahhabis are already here and they will build something.
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  5. +6
    25 December 2013 09: 59
    West - divide and conquer. This means that we are required to show unity not only at the national, but also at the international level.
    It’s difficult even for Russia alone to ward off these obscurantists who have been filled with darkness. Only unification (even if force and pressure will have to be applied) otherwise we don’t feel krant .. am
  6. +11
    25 December 2013 10: 21
    The recipe for Kyrgyz coups from a conversation with one participant in the next brawl.
    - They brought us to the square, and there are tents, tents. They feed all pilaf, meat and VODKA! I ate, drank, I hide the meat in my bag, then the brigadier comes in and yells, stop eating! Go, shout! We went, but those who didn’t smoke anasha didn’t raise them.
    -They brought anasha with them?
    -No, they gave it to everyone who wanted to.
    "And the vodka there is so cool! A little drink, the head doesn’t understand anything!"
    1. +1
      25 December 2013 23: 02
      laughing Vodka must have been chased from anasha))) laughing
      1. Shur
        0
        26 December 2013 00: 45
        Insisted on marijuana in the USA under pressure laughing with additives hashish from afghanistan ...
  7. +3
    25 December 2013 10: 23
    not too late to realize? although probably better late than never. and the goodness of zapadentsev wait, it must be very naive. and some strange news flashed that the Pentagon is now going to erect a biolaboratory in Kazakhstan request
    1. +4
      25 December 2013 12: 39
      But what is the news that the Americans are getting into a rage if they see an open Gopa. bully
  8. +4
    25 December 2013 10: 31
    Pseudo revolutionaries rock society on contradictions, often inflating petty grievances to a universal scale. Of course, this must be resisted.

    However, as always, a double-edged sword. If you completely strangle any opposition (as under the CPSU, legally), then the government will feel completely unpunished, not moving and doing nothing. And any attempt at criticism will be declared a new revolution. This is also impossible.
    1. +5
      25 December 2013 12: 47
      The opposition must be productive, i.e. should offer its program to improve people's lives, and not smash shops and not demolish monuments and not write on the graves of ancestors. Such "opposition" should be treated with logging. negative
  9. +7
    25 December 2013 10: 31
    Well, actually, Saakashvili didn’t leave in disgrace, but on the contrary it’s very normal. The term ended and went to bed, he became a teacher.
    Here the author just wanders.

    As for the CSTO, well, we are all realists. A Russian soldier will crush all this and mutual assistance in the CST is always in the same direction.
  10. +6
    25 December 2013 10: 31
    We must look deeper.
    Most of the orange-blue revolutionaries studied in the United States in various institutions where brainwashed with a certain focus on the overthrow of power in a foreign country.
    Therefore, we must start by checking and filtering out people of this kind in any way possible, so they will filter us out in their revolutions.
    1. +1
      25 December 2013 17: 33
      And we need to check and weed out those who studied at Arab universities, otherwise they will weed us out.
  11. +5
    25 December 2013 10: 50
    Mutual assistance should become the basis of Russian foreign policy.
    That's what, but we always had it. It’s just a pity that it often cost Russia very “dearly” and it is twice a shame that those for whom we made such sacrifices, as they very quickly forgot their gratitude ...
  12. +3
    25 December 2013 10: 57
    The main issue is financing, color revolutions.
    And on whose particular boblo, I sit and trash in Kiev.
    1. 0
      25 December 2013 17: 35
      Yes to our loot, which is managed by the US Federal Reserve.
  13. Cat
    +2
    25 December 2013 11: 12
    If possible, provocateurs will try to find a bloody victim somewhere, and the sadder the story of her death turns out, the greater the resonance is ensured. Maybe there will be no sacrifice at all. But a tragic story must appear!

    And here she appeared: the activist of the Maidan, the journalist T. Chernovol, was beaten near Kiev.
    Um, in my opinion the two streets of Chernovolov in Kiev alone will be busy.
  14. smersh70
    +4
    25 December 2013 11: 19
    and Nazarbayev is a man who really looks at the way things are being organized - azakhstan is ready to sign a "road map" on Armenia's joining the Customs Union, but with a dissenting opinion, since the issue of the borders of the Customs Union in connection with the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh needs to be clarified, said President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev at a meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council. The "road map" for Armenia as a whole has been agreed, I think, perhaps, it will be adopted. At the same time, the question of the border of the Customs Union, where it will be held in Armenia in connection with the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, remains open. Therefore, together with our colleagues, we will sign road maps, but with a dissenting opinion, which will be reported, "Nazarbayev said.
    He expressed hope that during the approval of the document, experts will find a solution to this issue.
    The position of Nursultan Nazarbayev is timely and necessary from the point of view of the interests of Azerbaijan. The President of Kazakhstan actually emphasized the occupational character of the presence of Armenia in Nagorno-Karabakh, and all the ensuing difficulties for the countries of the Customs Union in connection with the Karabakh conflict.
    1. +6
      25 December 2013 11: 45
      Kazakhstan has always taken a tough stance on Nagorno-Karabakh.
      1. ed65b
        +2
        25 December 2013 18: 31
        Quote: Zymran
        Kazakhstan has always taken a tough stance on Nagorno-Karabakh.

        As Putin says so, the political weight of Russia and Kazakhstan is simply not comparable. Initially, different categories, a global player and a parochial leader are in doubt.
        1. 0
          25 December 2013 18: 45
          Quote: ed65b
          As Putin says so, the political weight of Russia and Kazakhstan is simply not comparable. Initially, different categories, a global player and a parochial leader are in doubt.


          Perhaps, however, Radiant has already lost authority in the face of the Kazakhs, and sagging further risks losing the rest.
          1. ed65b
            +1
            25 December 2013 21: 50
            It is no secret that many states are eyeing the Customs Union, including in the Near and Middle East. Armenia, being a member of the CU, is an ideal geographical platform for developing cooperation in this direction, especially given its common border with Iran, which can eventually get rid of international sanctions. Obviously, in this context, Moscow can count on a significant increase in its political weight and influence in the problematic, but very important region of the planet from the point of view of expanding its, first of all, economic levers and opportunities. There are other circumstances related to Georgia’s likely entry into the Association with the EU and Azerbaijan’s rather slurred foreign policy position.

            As for Armenia, its aspiration to become a member of the CU is explained not so much by "pressure from Moscow" (at least not primarily), but by two "eternal" fundamental problems of the national foreign policy agenda. This is, firstly, the Karabakh issue, and secondly, the issue of the Armenian-Turkish normalization. There is no doubt that today Yerevan is convinced that de facto Nagorno-Karabakh in some form will be covered by a common customs border, which, of course, will strengthen the position of the Armenian side in the negotiations within the OSCE Minsk Group, allowing over time to transform the actual recognition of this region into as part of the Armenian territory in the legal registration of the existing realities. Of course, this will take a long time to wait, and this path does not look cloudless, but the calculation may turn out to be correct.

            This is not my opinion, but I agree with him.
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        3. -2
          25 December 2013 21: 09
          Kazakhstan is not Armenia so Putin tells them what to do and how)) be realistic Eduard. Yes, and Russia is not profitable to put pressure on Kazakhstan. What if Nazarbayev decides to quit the vehicle from pressure? Then it will collapse TS.da and Lukashenko on this issue with Nazarbayev.
          he openly stated that, when Armenia enters the CU, it will have to take into account the interests of Azerbaijan))
          1. ed65b
            +1
            25 December 2013 21: 37
            Quote: lonely
            Kazakhstan is not Armenia so Putin tells them what to do and how)) be realistic Eduard. Yes, and Russia is not profitable to put pressure on Kazakhstan. What if Nazarbayev decides to quit the vehicle from pressure? Then it will collapse TS.da and Lukashenko on this issue with Nazarbayev.
            he openly stated that, when Armenia enters the CU, it will have to take into account the interests of Azerbaijan))

            Moscow will try to minimize the consequences of Kazakhstan's negative attitude and "dissent" to the issue of Armenia's accession to the CU. And it will insist on its own precisely because the problem is political, not economic. In economic matters, Astana is a very important partner for Russia. But in the foreign policy field, the Kremlin will be guided exclusively by strategic considerations: in the face of growing political risks in the Transcaucasus, the security of the Customs Union, which includes Kazakhstan, cannot be guaranteed either. It is a pity that Astana is not fully aware of this uncontested integral interest.
            1. +2
              25 December 2013 22: 58
              The railway to Armenia passes through Azerbaijan and Georgia. Georgia won’t open it (it passes through Abkhazia and you probably know what Georgia wants instead of opening). We remain. In the current situation, cargo will not be delivered to Armenia through Azerbaijan. Alternative transport means price increase for goods, which is unprofitable. So you have to puzzle how to open the railway. and it’s very simple. You’ll know how))
              1. Shur
                +1
                26 December 2013 01: 02
                Who knows, maybe we’ll dig a tunnel laughing , will decide: "Railway communication with Russia through Abkhazia is the main issue that can untie the knot of the transport blockade of Armenia," Co-chairman of the Armenian-Russian commission of inter-parliamentary cooperation from Russia, Chairman of the Federation Council Committee of the Federal Assembly, said at a press conference in Yerevan on November 6 on natural monopolies Nikolay Ryzhkov. " “According to him, the Customs Union will contribute to the restoration of railway communication, and if this happens, the situation will fundamentally change:“ For example, today half a million tons of Kuban grain for Armenia is loaded in Novorossiysk, unloaded in Poti and transported to Armenia. that if there is a direct railway, then $ 23 can be saved for each ton of grain. "
              2. Shur
                0
                26 December 2013 01: 44
                Also, since 2002, shipping has been opened between Anzali and Astrakhan, in the last one there is a corridor through Iran, and I think it will be used over time. Since there is a benefit, they will find ways. Politics is one thing, but everyone knows how to count money. Iran is advertising itself as a transport corridor. Russia has already found "workarounds" in the construction of gas pipelines.
              3. ed65b
                0
                26 December 2013 08: 29
                Quote: lonely
                The railway to Armenia passes through Azerbaijan and Georgia. Georgia won’t open it (it passes through Abkhazia and you probably know what Georgia wants instead of opening). We remain. In the current situation, cargo will not be delivered to Armenia through Azerbaijan. Alternative transport means price increase for goods, which is unprofitable. So you have to puzzle how to open the railway. and it’s very simple. You’ll know how))

                This is not necessary. Armenian businessmen have already mastered and adjusted the supply of goods to Armenia through 3 countries, and they are not making bad money on this. Well, if we cut through, we’ll cut a corridor through Georgia. What has already been voiced by the General Staff of the Russian Federation.
          2. +4
            25 December 2013 22: 39
            Where to go? Under the bloody Americans ??? Well, no, let these bloody American pigs die.
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  15. +4
    25 December 2013 11: 24
    Mutual assistance should be the basis of Russian foreign policy. Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan - members of the CSTO - should join Ukraine. The latter is one of the most vulnerable countries in the post-Soviet space, so that, having non-aligned status, it has no chance of survival. It turned out, lightning beats twice in one place. This should be a signal for the Ukrainian political leadership: it's time to take care that there is no third Maidan in the country. Ukraine needs stability! And the CSTO is the very structure that could provide this stability.

    That's what was missing on the Maidan ..... our tanks. Then it would be possible to carry out a tank race in honor of peace in western Ukraine.
    1. +4
      25 December 2013 12: 54
      Stupidity about tanks. The people of Ukraine (not Maidan, but those who work hard) must decide their own fate through a referendum and constitution.
      1. +1
        25 December 2013 22: 43
        Ukraine should be with us. And ships should sail there - OUR, not American. And Ukraine should work for OUR economy, and not for the American. Is that clear?
  16. +4
    25 December 2013 11: 33
    One thing I don’t understand is why, against the background of an outright greyhound in the form of distribution of pies by high-ranking officials of the Western powers and performances of all kinds of rascals in the form of the McCains and co. on the square of the capital of a sovereign state, ours behave, to put it mildly, modestly. At stake is the fate of our sister - Ukraine, one might even say not a sister, but the left side of the body of our Rus. And our politicians, like prostitutes in confession, hide their faces, and mumble something on TV that is completely nondescript and useless. I understand that it is a special chic to say: "Ukraine is an independent state and it is up to her to decide," and to stir up the full story behind the scenes, but all the same - our response to the West looks clearly inadequate and miserable.
    1. smersh70
      -2
      25 December 2013 11: 36
      Quote: dejavu
      in the form of distribution of pies by dignitaries of the western powers

      probably YOU have forgotten how to bake pancakes with honey or aladey’s, well, to extreme meat dumplings wassat Well, bungle something and go --- Set an example !!!!!!! good
      1. +1
        25 December 2013 12: 38
        I’m to Ukraine, as to the moon at shit, but I’d bake it. drinks
      2. +2
        25 December 2013 14: 08
        Quote: smersh70
        probably YOU have forgotten how to bake pancakes with honey or aladey’s, well, to extreme meat dumplings

        Judging by the abundance of your fellow citizens in Russia, you also forgot how to make shawarma and kebab there. Why did so many come here? Did someone call? And it would be okay to work, but it is full of bandits, and drug dealers, and thieves, and just loafers. Two-thirds of workers do a woman's job - they trade in the markets. Do not teach others how to live; first, grasp yourself.
        1. smersh70
          +3
          25 December 2013 14: 39
          Quote: Sour
          Judging by the abundance of your fellow citizens in Russia

          there’s another topic, comrade laughing to whom, and a bald comb))))))))
          Quote: Sour
          You also have forgotten how to make shawarma and kebab there.

          so we do not scatter our best chefs)))))) we keep all the best at home))))))))
          Quote: Sour
          Two-thirds of workers do a woman's job - they trade in the markets.

          this thing is it’s not necessary to give women) it’s not for you to sell sauerkraut))))))
          Quote: Sour
          Do not teach others to live,

          it will be necessary and we will teach and learn))) everything has its place)))))) it was a specific answer about pies)))) it’s better not to let Ukraine out of your hands)) you are our strategist)))) because of people like you, and Ukraine is running .......
          1. -3
            25 December 2013 15: 19
            Quote: smersh70
            that's because of people like you, and Ukraine is running .......

            I regard it as a compliment. Let him run, faster and farther. Personally, I have such "brothers" unnecessarily, with them and enemies are not necessary.
            I won’t say it all over Russia, but very, very many will agree with me.
            And yet - there are too many of your fellow countrymen for you to puff out your cheeks and climb into consultants on domestic policy. To beat off work from Russian women is undignified for men. You get used to such men and look accordingly. "What do you want? The best tomatoes!" - these words are not in the Azerbaijani anthem yet? It's time to turn it on. They will be the main ones there.
            1. smersh70
              0
              25 December 2013 18: 20
              Quote: Sour
              To beat off the work of Russian women is not solid for men.

              You are probably unfamiliar with the Russian legislation ... and it says that only citizens of the Russian Federation can trade on the market ... and it is thanks to our many local people that they have stable earnings, it is not you and me who pay them))) but the owner of this point ... ... and if an Azerbaijani is trading on the market, then he definitely has the citizenship of the Russian Federation .. so that he is no longer coming out of ours, but YOUR)))))
              Quote: Sour
              The best tomatoes! "- these words are not yet in the Azerbaijani anthem

              with these words, be careful about turns ... HYMN-holy for every citizen of his state ...... at least treat respect ... whether you like it or not ......
            2. +2
              25 December 2013 21: 16
              Quote: Sour
              What do you want? The best tomatoes! "- these words are not in the Azerbaijani anthem yet? It's time to turn them on. They will be the main ones there.


              Set a visa regime. Do not let foreigners enter the country. Maybe my countrymen are to blame for this too, and real Azerbaijani tomatoes are really the best.
  17. +9
    25 December 2013 11: 34
    The article is not complete, the author did not answer the main question. And why do THESE color revolutions flare up? Why are so many people participating in such events?
    And the main reason is that in many republics of the USSR power was PRIVATIZED, it corrupted officials, for the sake of which the CONSTITUTION of these states is changing. Power has not been CHANGEED for decades, where does the permissiveness of this power come from, irresponsibility, embezzlement, and disregard for the citizens of these states. Destroyed the entire industrial complex of the Former Soviet republics and as a result terrible unemployment, poverty and poverty, human grief.

    Is THIS the main reason for the color revolutions? Take them away, and there WILL BE NO COLORED REVOLUTIONS. This is what the CSTO should do.
    1. +5
      25 December 2013 11: 45
      + 500

      Quote: Turkestan
      Take them away, and COLOR REVOLUTIONS WILL NOT BE


      Will the authorities fight with themselves? Not. It is much more profitable to expose the extreme Anglo-Saxons, railroad Freemasons and liberals. laughing
      1. 0
        25 December 2013 15: 43
        And what are ideological leaders abroad, do they work without bribes from large corporations?
    2. -2
      25 December 2013 15: 16
      Quote: Turkestan
      Why are so many people participating in such events?

      Where does the huge amount come from? Are you talking about the quadrillion march? Or Sixtillons?
    3. 0
      25 December 2013 16: 22
      - Turkestan: remove them, and there WILL BE NO COLOR REVOLUTIONS.
      WHO offer. For the opposition is the same, but divorced from the feeding trough. Clone Wars, Sorry, Clans.
      James Appathurai, Special Representative of the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Alliance for the Caucasus and Central Asia, recently stated that Kyrgyzstan is now participating in NATO's Analysis and Military Planning Process (PARP) program, which will allow its troops to participate in peacekeeping operations. At the same time, the alliance intensively interacts with practically ALL CSTO countries - in addition to Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan participate in the NATO program “Analysis and Military Planning Process”. NATO just ignores the CSTO. And the "calls" for CSTO cooperation with the United States and NATO, the myths of the Chinese threat do not add confidence and greater self-determination - the Organization is sagging under the influence of NATO lobbyists. As long as the Russian Federation is not able to completely exclude NATO’s activities and presence in the region, BUT it is already possible and necessary to counter the potential expansion of NATO in the post-Soviet space.
      And a COMPLETE (threatening to develop into BOSS) lag in information technologies. According to the director of the CGE, “today some countries are faced with such a phenomenon as a 'mimetic weapon' using social networks, mobile communications, flash mobs, blogs, tweeters, etc. with the same purpose - de-sovereignization of individual states and the displacement of existing political regimes in favor of the USA ".
      That is, an “uncowed field”.
      SIMPLY to act HARD - not cruel. USE migrant workers, grow your own "ELITE" - concessions to applicants to universities and, especially, to the MILITARY. And THE MAIN THING (yesterday) - NOT to allow the use of the territory of the CSTO countries to host terrorist bases.
      After all, the organization has not yet shown itself. Except for joint exercises.
      PS INTERESTING, if in the Russian Federation crowds of people from the SA come out to demonstrate, should (in accordance with the Treaty) countrymen from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan MUST “disperse” them ...
  18. Clegg
    +2
    25 December 2013 12: 07
    The 2010 example in Kyrgyzstan shows that the CSTO is not capable of anything.
    1. AK-47
      +3
      25 December 2013 14: 44
      Quote: Clegg
      The 2010 example in Kyrgyzstan shows that the CSTO is not capable of anything.

      The CSTO has other goals. The CSTO does not protect dictatorial regimes.
      The task of the CSTO is to protect the territorial and economic space of the countries participating in the treaty by joint efforts of the armies and auxiliary units from any foreign military-political aggressors, international terrorists, as well as natural disasters of large scale.
  19. +1
    25 December 2013 12: 21
    Quote: Zymran
    + 500

    Quote: Turkestan
    Take them away, and COLOR REVOLUTIONS WILL NOT BE


    Will the authorities fight with themselves? Not. It is much more profitable to expose the extreme Anglo-Saxons, railroad Freemasons and liberals. laughing


    Why not. Maybe this is the purification of power
    1. +2
      25 December 2013 16: 19
      Quote: Turkestan
      Quote: Zymran
      + 500

      Quote: Turkestan
      Take them away, and COLOR REVOLUTIONS WILL NOT BE


      Will the authorities fight with themselves? Not. It is much more profitable to expose the extreme Anglo-Saxons, railroad Freemasons and liberals. laughing


      Why not. Maybe this is the purification of power

      It is true that in the days of Stalin and from the same scum it was only more difficult now, the temptation by consumerism and the absence of modern Stalin prevented us.
  20. Garik
    +2
    25 December 2013 12: 58
    The media have been carrying out lengthy preparatory work related to the promotion of liberal ideology within the victim country.

    Come on the tape now. There are very often muzzles of brainless snacks and other swampy dishonesty. It is disgusting to look, as if writing about nothing more. Less need to pay attention to these people, without attention they are nothing!
  21. +3
    25 December 2013 14: 02
    The author actually calls on the CSTO member states to armed intervention in other people's internal affairs. In the name of what and whom?
    1. 0
      26 December 2013 07: 57
      + You
      I always believed that the CSTO charter implies protection from external aggression, but not interference in the internal affairs of the CSTO member states.
  22. +4
    25 December 2013 14: 28
    With all due respect to the CSTO, in its righteous struggle against color revolutions, it sets priorities incorrectly. Prevention of these very revolutions is much more efficient and cheaper. And if it came to helping to resolve the conflict, then all previous efforts can be called a failure. situations in the countries of a potential enemy, with access to a solution at home, will help the parties agree in the event of a crisis.
    1. +3
      25 December 2013 15: 25
      Quote: Cucumbers
      And if it came to helping to resolve the conflict, then all previous efforts can be called a failure.

      Absolutely.
      Although the question arises - were there any previous efforts? And in that direction?
      But on the whole I agree. Turning the CSTO into an international gendarme is a crime.
  23. +3
    25 December 2013 14: 28
    It is strange, at least, to expect from the CSTO an active counteraction to color coups. In any case, at the current level.

    Collective security in the form of external intervention in material, not virtual, implementation (attack, violation of borders, etc.) is a solvable problem. But in the concept of internal security, each participant puts his own meaning, i.e. the CSTO cannot influence the actions of the opposition. Otherwise, it will be, "covered" by the treaty, intervention by other participants. Such actions require a different level of trust or dependence. Both are currently missing.

    And the interaction of special services and intelligence is welcome. hi
  24. +6
    25 December 2013 15: 02
    ODKB should not fight color revolutions, because the alien allied troops will be perceived as occupying, and this will play into the hands of the "rainbow" revolutionaries.
    1. +1
      25 December 2013 18: 15
      Quote: TS3sta3
      ODKB should not fight color revolutions, because the alien allied troops will be perceived as occupying, and this will play into the hands of the "rainbow" revolutionaries.

      I agree with this post and on my own I want to add that in December 79, at the request of the Afghan government, troops were sent there, who needs a rake?
    2. Clegg
      +2
      25 December 2013 19: 52
      Quote: TS3sta3
      Rishl-allied troops will be perceived as occupation forces, and this will play into the hands of the "rainbow" revolutionaries.

      2010 would have been in place of Medvedev Putin would have climbed. 100% and get a second Afghanistan. The iPhone is in any case more adequate than Putin.
      1. +1
        25 December 2013 20: 23
        interesting opinion (at the expense of the adequacy of pu). and what is it based on?
      2. +1
        25 December 2013 22: 55
        Putin is better!
    3. -1
      25 December 2013 22: 50
      Yes, transmit them to tanks, revolutionaries and all things. And who should do this? Or will we just sit and wait until all of us are divided and killed each other?
  25. garlik
    +3
    25 December 2013 17: 42
    Here's how: the West is engaged in all, but nobody is engaged in the West. Here you need to own the initiative.
  26. alex_valent
    +2
    25 December 2013 18: 33
    Maidan. I love a worthy world of little animals - No one is torn there as a king. And somewhere, the monuments ruin the Vandals, savage people. The country is not a dirty muddle. Brotherly ties have no price. Where there is a conscience - there is no Maidan. Where there is Maidan - there is no country ... (c)
    1. +2
      25 December 2013 18: 38
      Quote: alex_valent
      . And somewhere, the monuments ruin the Vandals

      a monument to the vandals-vandals in dismay was erected request
  27. +2
    25 December 2013 18: 36
    Quote: Gato
    Therein lies the danger that "color" revolutions are made practically by legal methods - with the participation of the parliamentary opposition and legal organizations.

    That is why in the USSR under Stalin there was no parliamentarism!
    Although he was offered, the same Kollontai, for example. To which Stalin answered her: "There will be no parliamentarism in Russia!"
  28. +1
    25 December 2013 18: 42
    Yushchenko was lucky - he was even given a chance to save face ..

    In my opinion, everything that can be done with his face, Nature has already done.
  29. +1
    25 December 2013 19: 26
    If we do not in any way resist this evil, then they will get to us. But then it will be too late. It is necessary to firmly oppose all NGOs, the so-called. "human rights defenders", etc. etc.
  30. Cedar
    +1
    25 December 2013 20: 19
    if we start talking about wars of a different format, then it is necessary to apply to the "fighters" of these wars the same norms that are applicable to a soldier of any enemy army. if you are ready to become a "soldier" of a new format war, then be ready to respond like a soldier with your own life. all these orange demonstrators must be given the status of a soldier of the enemy side and destroyed as soldiers or deserters, and prisoners in the camps!
  31. kelevra
    +1
    25 December 2013 20: 27
    It’s time, all these revolutions, the path to the primitive Era!
  32. Stasi
    +1
    25 December 2013 22: 27
    The CSTO is, frankly, a power structure, and force alone is clearly not enough to withstand all these color revolutions. First of all, the main thing to be learned is that any war or coup is preceded by a well-planned information war, using all the techniques and methods of psychological warfare aimed at undermining national consciousness and trust in the institutions of power and the existing political system. Propaganda can be countered only with another counterpropaganda, more skillful and efficient. As you know: whoever was the first to present his ideas has the advantage. The West skillfully uses information weapons and all the techniques and methods of psychological warfare, in this we must admit we are behind it. So if Russia wants to defend its position, then it is necessary to concentrate its efforts in the information-psychological warfare and to improve its means, to create parity in this regard with the West.
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  34. Sax
    Sax
    -2
    25 December 2013 22: 36
    Mutual assistance should be the basis of Russian foreign policy. Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan - members of the CSTO - should join Ukraine. The latter is one of the most vulnerable countries in the post-Soviet space, so that, having non-aligned status, it has no chance of survival. It turned out, lightning beats twice in one place. This should be a signal for the Ukrainian political leadership: it's time to take care that there is no third Maidan in the country. Ukraine needs stability! And the CSTO is the very structure that could provide this stability.
    Author Artyom Vit
    I’m wondering, how will the respected community react to the following statement: Should Russia become a civilized state and stop climbing into the internal affairs of its neighbors?
    1. +1
      26 December 2013 04: 30
      Here, the United States and the EU should become civilized and stop crawling into other people's affairs. Yes, it’s time to bury them for a long time, as I’m tired of them. And Russia is a very civilized state, and the bastard of the United States is not very civilized. Russia is very good and the West Mr. ram!
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  36. Sax
    Sax
    +1
    25 December 2013 22: 40
    Quote: Stasi
    First of all, the main thing to be learned is that any war or coup is preceded by a well-planned information war, using all the techniques and methods of psychological warfare aimed at undermining national consciousness and trust in the institutions of power and the existing political system.

    And for some reason it seemed to me that the "coup" was preceded in the first place by the crappy life of the people, the chaos of power and the desire of this people to be free. Is not it (refer to the primary sources)?
    1. Stasi
      0
      26 December 2013 13: 04
      Not certainly in that way. In the Soviet Union, the life of the people was not so crappy, despite many problems. People then lived not too richly as in the West, but with dignity. The country was destroyed by the deceit and hypocrisy of the authorities, its duplicity, which the West was able to take advantage of. And all sorts of "Voices of America" ​​suggested: you do not have sausages and jeans, the opportunity to live like in the West because you live in a "scoop", the USSR. We must separate from all these republics, stop feeding them, and then everything will be covered in chocolate. They acted according to the same scheme in relation to other republics: they say you live poorly because the Russians are eating you and taking everything for themselves. So we separated from each other - and how, did we heal well? So the coup is preceded by brainwashing, multiplied by the skillful use of existing problems.
  37. +1
    26 December 2013 00: 56
    Quote: lonely
    The railway to Armenia passes through Azerbaijan and Georgia. Georgia won’t open it (it passes through Abkhazia and you probably know what Georgia wants instead of opening). We remain. In the current situation, cargo will not be delivered to Armenia through Azerbaijan. Alternative transport means price increase for goods, which is unprofitable. So you have to puzzle how to open the railway. and it’s very simple. You’ll know how))

    Eastern wisdom: A caravan loaded with gold opens the gates of any fortress.
  38. 0
    26 December 2013 12: 49
    revolution is possible only on the calamities and aspirations of the common people. LIFT IS NEEDED LIFE!
  39. 0
    26 December 2013 15: 32
    In general, in my opinion, the opposition, which works frankly for the collapse of the state construction, needs to be lowered in civil rights. Up to the denial of medical care, state protection. That is, anyone can knock down the leader of the "fifth column" and nothing will happen to him for it. Otherwise, heal them, feed them, protect them, and they will spoil us.
  40. 0
    26 December 2013 21: 34
    Here is interesting news from one of the main allies of the CSTO of Kazakhstan. There is doubt that this is realized, but there is no smoke without fire.
    The US Department of Defense is building a super-expensive dual-use biological laboratory in Kazakhstan, the Strategic Culture Fund website says.
    This laboratory, designed to supplement the system of similar facilities located by the Pentagon along the perimeter of Russia's borders, potentially threatens the security of the Russian Federation and Central Asian countries
    Read more: http://news.nur.kz/296126.html
  41. +1
    27 December 2013 00: 46
    Quote: Sax
    I’m wondering, how will the respected community react to the following statement: Should Russia become a civilized state and stop climbing into the internal affairs of its neighbors?

    Negative!
    Firstly, Russia is a civilized state, and secondly, Russia does not creep into the internal affairs of Ukraine.
    1. Nikolay D.
      0
      27 December 2013 00: 55
      Quote: Avdy
      Negative!
      Firstly, Russia is a civilized state, and secondly, Russia does not creep into the internal affairs of Ukraine.

      And thirdly, why on earth should we make excuses to, really, savages?

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